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Dems and Integrity, the Moon and Green Cheese --

by Mark Drolette
www.dissidentvoice.org
April 7, 2006

S
top it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it.

 

Stop it now, stop it, just stop it.

 

Please: Stop it now!

 

For those who continue to suggest the Democrats can somehow save our wretched and forsaken land, I beseech thee: Wake up and smell the corruption.

 

You are intelligent. You are kind. You care deeply about your fellow human beings. We know you have superb taste in columnists.

 

You are also clearly on the correct side, because if there were ever anything in this heavily gray area-tinged world that is laid out in stark black-or-white, right-or-wrong terms, it’s Us the Good Guys and Gals vs. the neocon-driven Bush Bastards.

 

But you have a curious -- and maddening -- blind spot that is a big-time time-waster, a non-starter, an energy sucker-upper, the Mother of All Dead-Ends: You still engage in the fantasy that if we work really hard, even harder then we all worked last time which was damn ass-busting hard, we can get the Democrats back in power, buy some breathing room and start the long uphill climb back to semi-respectability for America.

 

Ain’t gonna happen. No way, unh-uh, no how. Fuhgeddaboutit.

 

Hope is nice. Gotta have hope. But delusional is, well, just delusional. (I say that only in a nice way.)

 

For one thing, America’s major elections are rigged. The fix is in, the jig is up.

 

Repeat after me: The fix is in, the jig is up.

 

Now, I could be wrong, but I’ve always thought sham balloting has the rather annoying side effect of taking the wind right out of democracy’s sails.

 

As if that weren’t bad enough (and it is), just what in the slimy, spineless, mush-mouthed, pants-wetting, knee-knocking, finger-in-the-air, thumb-in-your-eye, two-faced, CYA-ing recent past of the Democratic Party leads you to believe that in any way, shape or form these bipedal jellyfish can lead us to the Promised Land, or even the Implied Parking Lot, even if by the most miraculous of miracles the GOP somehow forgets to throw the vote-conversion switch in the next selection and the Dems manage to regain a majority somewhere?

 

Give me some names. Please. Tell me what Democrat has got the guts to stand up in front of the whoreporate media microphones and say: “You know what? The American people have been had. Our democratic republic does not exist. We are in the grips of murderous fascists who spit on the Constitution, or what little tiny scraps may be left of it, every chance they get. Not only that, but there’s every indication 9/11 didn’t go down the way we’ve all been led to believe it did and I demand answers NOW, no matter the implications.”

 

Oh, yeah, that would be something, wouldn’t it? Far too many questions remain about what really happened on September 11, 2001, a day that spread wide the gaping hellmouth of all gaping hellmouths and loosed the flesh-shredding monsters composing the Bush administration to wreak their uniquely gruesome brand of havoc on, oh, let’s see, everyone in the world who isn’t them.

 

An independent and open investigation of 9/11 -- truly independent and open -- needs to be conducted by a panel comprising experts in physics, aviation, engineering, construction, demolition, metallurgy, photography, insider trading, etc. The “official” explanations of that shockingly barbaric day are pure rubbish. As many have rightly queried lately in a multitude of finely-detailed and compelling articles: How can three skyscrapers, one of which wasn’t even hit by a plane, free-fall into their footprints in the same day? Why did even one of the WTC buildings collapse, considering no skyscraper before or since has ever been brought down by fire?

 

Allow me to suggest a slogan: WTC? WTF??

 

And so I ask: Do you honestly think a Dem will call for such an investigation, ever? Are you really going to put your faith in Hillary “Always Toe the Waters” Clinton, Joe “Used Car Salesman” Biden or John “Rollover” Kerry to suddenly show what they’ve yet to demonstrate they hold even a thimble’s worth between them: integrity?

 

Did I hear someone say Russ Feingold? Yeah, OK, I applaud Russ’ censure move, too, and certainly his lone senatorial vote against the Patriot Act, but even he, just like practically the whole sorry, seedy, scaredy lot of ‘em, will only go so far, which ain’t nearly far enough. Check this quote of his during a recent trip to Iraq:

 

“It’s the reality of a situation like this that when you have a large troop presence that it has the tendency to fuel the insurgency because they can make the incorrect and unfair claim that somehow the United States is here to occupy this country, which of course is not true.”

 

Yes, of course. Not true. Attaboy, Russ. Way to completely ignore the Project for the New American Century and its right-on-schedule plan of removing U.S. military bases from our enlightened, freedom-loving good buddy Saudi Arabia’s terrortory and building permanent ones right next door in Iraq, at least four of which Tom Engelhardt reports as being humongous “super-bases” and all of which have been under construction ever since the occupation -- whoops, non-occupation -- began.

 

Just exactly who, Senator, is gonna staff these babies -- dust devils?

 

Perhaps, gentle reader, your longing eyes are cast toward Barbara Boxer, the good senator from my home state who, on January 6, 2005, along with Ohio Representative Stephanie Tubbs Jones, challenged the eligibility of Ohio’s 2004 twenty electoral votes.

 

Or did she? Boxer asserted on that painfully depressing day on the Senate floor that she was “joining with Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones” not to claim that George W. Bush had stolen the presidency (again), oh, no; but rather “to cast the light of truth on a flawed [balloting] system which must be fixed now.”

 

Nice try, Barb, but a little late. Sure it was brave of you to inconvenience your 99 fellow clubbies for a couple of hours. But it wasn’t enough. Not by a long shot. It falls just a smidgeon short of using your center stage moment to tell the world the harsh truth, that what it was witnessing that day was nothing less than the final nail being unceremoniously pounded into the coffin of our democratic republic and the official birth of American Fascism.

 

In fairness, there are a handful of Dems who do have real guts, folks like John Conyers, Jr., Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney and Barbara Lee. But they’ve all been marginalized to one extent or another by their whore, er, more “practical” political sisters and brothers.

 

If, genuinely dear reader, your understandable great white-knuckled hope is for fresh blood to somehow reinvigorate the Democratic Party, forget it. Any Dem newbie who doesn’t play by the rulers’ rules -- which in BushWorld means keeping one’s mouth shut and protecting one’s precious little piece of allotted turf for fear of certain incriminating photos hitting the ‘Net or family members being disappeared -- finds it’s not all that long before his or her very own party’s old guard is issuing pointed instructions on how to maintain one’s proper place in the scheming scheme of things lest there be a noticeable lack of party machine support come the next faux voting cycle.

 

Speaking of pointless exercises: A friend in Canada suggests we Americans at least have some fun with the election charade we insist on holding biannually. (Hey, if we’re going to get screwed, we might as well enjoy it, eh?) For real kicks and giggles, he says, we ought to, all of us, “vote Republican. Then, upon exiting the polls, act like one. In other words, lie. Say, “I’m a registered Democrat and I always vote the party line.” When the exit polls show 50-50 (or whatever is announced) but the Republicans see they don’t have to fiddle with the votes and in their hubristic giddiness allow the announcement of the real 100% total, they’ll have a whole lot of “splainin” to do (although, ironically, they’re telling the truth for once!). Plus, in this scenario, the Snakes are left to collectively stand naked (a revolting mental image; sorry) and be seen for what they truly are: the one-party puppets of the real power holders, big bidness. On the other hand, if the announced “official” numbers are instead the now-traditional 52-48% GOP winning margin, this is additional proof, then, that the results are pre-programmed.”*

 

After all, my friend asks, “How bad can it get?” Indeed. In fact, I think his plan has real merit, for it only prolongs our ongoing agony to keep any Dems around at all. It’s been obvious for years how utterly ineffective they are, but it is much worse than that, as their continuing presence provides the Bushian fascists with a patina of legitimacy, making it appear to the less astute (and we know how many of those there are) that some sort of democratic process still exists in America. Believe me, the last thing the Rethuglicans want is for all the Dems to split.

 

Although, frankly, I guess it wouldn’t matter all that much if they did. I have long contended that when it comes right down to it, when it is necessary, when Bushco’s cover is at last fully blown, when enough Americans have finally had enough and take to the streets in sufficient numbers to rattle some cages, they’ll find tanks -- and cops and soldiers and mercenaries and helicopters and dogs and teargas and bullets and truncheons and hoses and horses and trucks and buses (gotta get people to those Halliburton-constructed “temporary detention” facilities somehow) -- to meet them.

 

The Bushies have slaughtered over 100,00 Iraqis (possibly up to a quarter million, per Dahr Jamail), sent more than 2300 U.S. soldiers to needless deaths, allowed 1400 Americans to drown and die of thirst in Katrina’s wake and most likely murdered 3000 of our own countrymen and women in New York, D.C. and Pennsylvania.

 

Blowing Americans away in the streets? Small potatoes.

 

I don’t care how many useless votes are cast or how many fine candidates there seem to be: The more-equal animals are not leaving of their own accord, and the complicit Democrats have enabled them to stay hog-slop happy in charge every sickening, self-serving step of the way.

 

We are entirely on our own, folks, and have been for a long time. If we are to ever survive the pure hell in which America is squarely mired, it is up to us -- and only us -- to pull her out. No one else is gonna do it. Nobody is gonna save us. The longer we wring our hands and furrow our brows, the worse it gets. Meanwhile, the rest of an exasperated and threatened world is looking on with horror and going:

 

Stop it, just stop it. Stop it now.

 

Mark Drolette is a political satirist/commentator who lives in Sacramento, California. He can be reached at: mdrolette@comcast.net. Copyright © 2006 Mark Drolette. All rights reserved.

 

* Actual quote may vary.

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[political-researchp] Bloglines - Immigration department plagued by corruption, claims ex-official

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[political-researchp] Bloglines - Trailer for United93

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Trailer for United93

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It is chilling, adrenaline-pumping and necessary.

But not pleasant. My hands were shaking by the end of the trailer. It’s going to be tough to watch.

But then again, The Passion of the Christ was tough to watch too. And I watched it 5 times.

The great Jim Geraghty has some insightful remarks about the trailer, about the fact that the passengers of flight 93 essentially fought and won the first battle in a “post 9/11″ world and about how increasingly pervasive it is that some people pull “facts” out of thin air in order to “make their point.” More on that, later - it is a troubling phenom. Meanwhile Geraghty has some excellent links and a (subscription only) column on United 93 in the NY Sun.




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[political-researchp] Bloglines - Hannity Demolishes Churchill, Makes Him Pretend Not To Hear (VIDEO)

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Hannity Demolishes Churchill, Makes Him Pretend Not To Hear (VIDEO)

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Professor Ward Churchill and author David Horowitz appeared on Hannity & Colmes this evening after they debated at a forum in Washington. Churchill made national headlines after he publicly compared those who were killed in the September 11th attacks to “little Eichmanns”.

Hannity demands an apology from Churchill’s for his “little Eichmanns” remarks. However, Churchill wants an apology from Hannity for the deaths of innocent Iraqis—even though no one is calling them something on the line of little Eichmanns.

Ward Churchill then claimed that his headset is not working. At one point he said he was unable to hear Hannity, to which the co-host asked David Horowitz to repeat his question to Churchill.

Later in the interview, Colmes challenged Horowitz’s remarks that by no means are in the same ball park of “little Eichmanns” yet he didn’t even challenge Churchill on that remark. Churchill’s sound magically came back on when it was Alan’s turn to interview him.

Why can’t Alan ever take the side of righteousness and stop defending the indefensible? I know he’s a liberal, but it’s Ward Churchill for crying out loud. Colmes continually hid behind the “I’m defending Ward’s right to free speech” line, but it was quite obvious that he condones Churchill’s outrageous opinions.

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[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1213

There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: HOAX: "Bush Administration Media Collusion Memos Surface"
From: "S Miles Lewis" <yahoolists@elfis.net>
2. Re: Fw: AT&T Forwards ALL Internet Traffic Into NSA Says EFF
From: Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
3. Missing Dem.Cong.Candidate Baffles Police-What have Republicans Done !
From: ranger116@webtv.net
4. Lookin� for the 911 Truth
From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net>
5. Bush Authorized Leak toTimes, LibbyToldGrand Jury+Ohio Election Rigge
From: ranger116@webtv.net
6. Bush Authorized Leak toTimes, LibbyToldGrand Jury+Ohio Election Rigge
From: ranger116@webtv.net
7. Re: [planehuggers] WTC Planehugger Therapy -Top 30 FAQ
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
8. Fw: British and Jewish conspiracies are in fact one -=- "three conspiracies" - don't expose each other, because-=- David Gergen - There is no Israel 'Lobby'
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
9. Fw: Mossad operatives dancing for joy at 9-11 WTC would not have been so happy unless they knew there were no Jews in there. Refuting the Demolition Debunkers, by Morgan Reynolds
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
10. Jewhuggers -- those who insist against all evidence that there were Jews at the WTC on 9-11
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
11. red pill -- Elliot Cohen (Washington Post) "Yes, It's Anti-Semitic" - Debunking The Mearsheimer-Walt "Israel Lobby" Fables
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
12. Joni Ferris nails self-important Jew hater Dick Eastman (must read)
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
13. New Poll - Should Bush Be In Jail ? Please Vote Today 85% Yes ! (;^))
From: ranger116@webtv.net
14. 9/11 LIES: Important Website about the alleged B757 crash!
From: APFN <apfn@apfn.org>
15. Washington Insiders Make Billions from the War on Terrorism
From: APFN <apfn@apfn.org>
16. Sample Letter on preventing internet censorship
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
17. 9/11 in Media - WorldCrisis Radio - Shareholder protests insurance coverup
From: John Leonard <jpleonard@verizon.net>

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 21:58:06 -0000
From: "S Miles Lewis" <yahoolists@elfis.net>
Subject: Re: HOAX: "Bush Administration Media Collusion Memos Surface"

Thanks Benjamin. I'd heard several reports of April Fool's day "Memo
Hoaxes" but I got suckered in with that one. And who can blame me and
others considering, as GuerrillaFunk folks said:

"... Yes, it's satire, but why did so many of you find it so easy to
believe? Maybe because the whole thing feels real - especially when
you consider the negative images and messages that corporations
continue to endorse and promote as entertainment. If Fox really
reported the truth the news would look more like this because record
labels and video channels influence millions..."

Not to mention the below recent revelations as well as other news in
past years of the Bush admin paying for pundits to pass off their
propaganda as actual news:

Education Dept. paid commentator to promote law
<http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=204&t=204>

Maggie Gallagher - Second Columnist Got Money from Bush Administration
<http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=205&t=205>

Senators to Introduce 'Stop Government Propaganda Act'
<http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=206&t=206>

Third Columnist paid by Bush Administration
<http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=207&t=206>

USA Today - Report: PR spending doubled under Bush
<http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=208&t=206>

How Team Bush Controls the Message - Stage the Event
<http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=210&t=210>

Uncovering the History of Operation Mockingbird
<http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=219&t=219>

Probe of Armstrong Williams Widens
<http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=238&t=238>

Tommy 'Martial Law' Franks is a Paid Bush Admin Patriot
<http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=23&i=174&t=174>

U.S. Military Covertly Pays to Run Stories in Iraqi Press
<http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=245&t=245>

Pentagon rolls out stealth PR / Foreign Media PsyOp
<http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=247&t=247>

77 TV stations aired 'fake news reports'
04/05/2006 @ 10:57 pm / Filed by Ron Brynaert

A study by a group that monitors the media reveals that, over a ten
month span, 77 television stations from all across the nation aired
video news releases without informing their viewers even once that
the reports were actually sponsored content, RAW STORY has found.

One "news report" that aired on three stations relied on a video news
release (VNR) produced by a PR firm on behalf of General Motors which
was even apparently based on a "false claim."

Center for Media and Democracy's Fake TV News: Widespread and
Undisclosed is "a multimedia report on television newsrooms' use of
material provided by PR firms on behalf of paying clients,"
containing video footage of the 36 video news releases (VNRs) cited
in the report, plus a map and spreadsheet of the stations cited.

General Motors, Intel, Pfizer and Capital One are among the companies
who produced VNRs with the help of three PR firms, and "[m]ore than
one-third of the time, stations aired the pre-packaged VNR in its
entirety."

An Oklahoma City FOX station owned by Sinclair is pegged as
the "report's top repeat offender," airing five VNRs in full on its
news broadcasts, with "the publicist's original narration each time."

Three stations "not only aired entire VNRs without disclosure, but
had local anchors and reporters read directly from the script
prepared by the broadcast PR firm."

News broadcasts based on a General Motors VNR stand out in the report
as a striking example of "fake news," not just because they were left
largely unchanged when aired on stations in Louisiana and
Pennsylvania.

"GM, who introduced the first manufacturer web site in 1996, has
recently lowered prices, in some cases by thousands of dollars, on
all of their models as a direct result of the customers' ability to
comparison shop on the Internet," Medialink's Kate Brookes "reported"
in all three broadcasts.

But the Center for Media and Democracy blasts GM's "historical claim"
as "fake."

"A simple dated search for "automotive web site" in the Nexis news
database revealed a press release from August 1995 in which
Volkswagen heralded the launch of their web portal," the report
states. "It wasn't until February 1996 that General Motors announced
gm.com in their own press release."

A comparison between the General Motors VNR and one of the news
broadcasts can be seen at this link.

Last year the New York Times published an article called "Under Bush,
a new age of prepackaged TV news" - written by David Barstow and
Robin Stein - which reported on the stealthy use of VNRs created by
government agencies that crept into network news broadcasts.

The Times revealed that even though Radio-Television News Directors
Association's "code of ethics" specifies to "clearly disclose the
origin of information and label all material provided by outsiders,"
the Federal Communications Commission has "never disciplined a
station for showing government-made news segments without disclosing
their origin."

Last June, Chris Baker at the Washington Times reported that the
Radio-Television News Directors Association "submitted a 13-page
statement that said few TV stations air VNRs, and those that do
almost always identify the source" to the Federal Communications
Commission. The statement drew from an "informal survey of 100
members" because, as the president of the Association told the
Washington Times, "concrete data" was "hard to come by."

An article in Thursday's Times by Barstow (New York Times registered
link) indicates that the Center "presented its findings yesterday to
F.C.C. officials, including Jonathan S. Adelstein, a commissioner who
has criticized video news releases."

Impressed by the "scope of what they found," Adelstein told the Times
that it was a "disgrace to American journalism," and proof
of "potentially major violations" of F.C.C. rules.

<http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/77_TV_stations_aired_fake_news_0405
.html>

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 00:49:41 +0200
From: Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: AT&T Forwards ALL Internet Traffic Into NSA Says EFF

Finally, it comes out in the US !

Funny how the Americans suddenly discovers how they're spied upon...
At least in Europe, we knew this since years...
There has even been a 1 1/2 hour long french TV report 4 years ago about
this.

And just one detail.. This wasn't "authorized by Bush". This is in place
since decades, with or without the approval of the president...

>On Thursday 06 April 2006 23:21, Debi Clark wrote:
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:49 AM
> Subject: AT&T Forwards ALL Internet Traffic Into NSA Says EFF
>
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> AT&T Forwards ALL Internet Traffic Into NSA Says EFF - Forums powered by
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> http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat
> php?Cat=&Board=news_computers&Number=294544114#Post294544114
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> AT&T Forwards ALL Internet Traffic Into NSA Says EFF [ Post 294544114 ]
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> Category: News & Opinion (General) Topic: Computers & Internet
> Synopsis:
> Source: www.linuxelectrons.com
> Published: April 6, 2006 Author:
> For Education and Discussion Only. Not for Commercial Use.
>
>
> AT&T Forwards ALL Internet Traffic Into NSA Says EFF
>
> Thursday, April 06 2006 @ 03:13 AM CDT
> Contributed by: ByteEnable
>
> San Francisco – The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) on Wednesday
> filed the legal briefs and evidence supporting its motion for a
> preliminary injunction in its class-action lawsuit against AT&T. After
> asking EFF to hold back the documents so that it could review them, the
> Department of Justice consented to EFF's filing them under seal — a
> well-established procedure that prohibits public access and permits only
> the judge and the litigants to see the evidence. While not a party to the
> case, the government was concerned that even this procedure would not
> provide sufficient security and has represented to the Court that it is
> "presently considering whether and, if so, how it will participate in
> this case."
>
> "The evidence that we are filing supports our claim that AT&T is
> diverting Internet traffic into the hands of the NSA wholesale, in
> violation of federal wiretapping laws and the Fourth Amendment," said EFF
> Staff Attorney Kevin Bankston. "More than just threatening individuals'
> privacy, AT&T's apparent choice to give the government secret, direct
> access to millions of ordinary Americans' Internet communications is a
> threat to the Constitution itself. We are asking the Court to put a stop
> to it now."
>
> EFF's evidence regarding AT&T's dragnet surveillance of its networks
> includes a declaration by Mark Klein, a retired AT&T telecommunications
> technician, and several internal AT&T documents. This evidence was
> bolstered and explained by the expert opinion of J. Scott Marcus, who
> served as Senior Technical Advisor for Internet Technology to the Federal
> Communications Commission from July 2001 until July 2005.
>
> The internal AT&T documents and portions of the supporting declarations
> have been submitted to the Court under a tentative seal, a procedure that
> allows AT&T five court days to explain to the Court why the information
> should be kept from the public.
>
> "The public deserves to know about AT&T's illegal program," said EFF
> Legal Director Cindy Cohn. "In an abundance of caution, we are providing
> AT&T with an opportunity to explain itself before this material goes on
> the public docket, but we believe that justice will ultimately require
> full disclosure.
>
>
> The NSA program came to light in December, when the New York Times
> reported that the President had authorized the agency to intercept
> telephone and Internet communications inside the United States without
> the authorization of any court. Over the ensuing weeks, it became clear
> that the NSA program has been intercepting and analyzing millions of
> Americans' communications, with the help of the country's largest phone
> and Internet companies, including AT&T.
>
> "Mark Klein is a true American hero," said EFF Staff Attorney Kurt
> Opsahl. He has bravely come forward with information critical for proving
> AT&T's involvement with the government's invasive surveillance program."
>
> In the lawsuit, EFF is representing the class of all AT&T residential
> customers nationwide. Working with EFF in the lawsuit are the law firms
> Traber & Voorhees, Lerach Coughlin Stoia Geller Rudman & Robbins LLP and
> the Law Office of Richard R. Wiebe.

--
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>

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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:59:55 -0400
From: ranger116@webtv.net
Subject: Missing Dem.Cong.Candidate Baffles Police-What have Republicans Done !

Missing Dem.Cong.Candidate Baffles Police-What have Republicans Done !

ABC News: Missing Candidate Baffles Police
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:24:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Lookin� for the 911 Truth

Lookin� for the 911 Truth
April 2006

Last week Charlie Sheen made national news (CNN
Showbiz Tonight 7pm)
three nights in a row, with coverage continuing every
day so far this
week
as well.
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/fourth-night-of-showbiz-tonights-sheen.html

What newsworthy event prompted such coverage? Mr.
Sheen has announced
that he thinks the government has been covering up the
truth about
9/11.
Charlie thinks 9/11 was an inside job!
http://9eleven.info/

Maybe you don�t care what he thinks, he�s just an
actor. Perhaps you
want
the opinion of an expert like Steven E Jones,
professor of Physics at
BYU.
http://www.9eleven.info/911JonesPaperhtm7.htm
http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=Steven%20Jones%20Shows%20WTC%20Demolition%20Evidence.wmv

Or perhaps MIT Engineer Jeff King who also believes
the WTC were
brought down by a controlled demolition.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248&pl=true

Maybe they�re too theoretical for you. You want
someone from the
applied sciences. May I suggest Clemson mechanical
engineering
professor Judy Wood.
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/mechanical-engineering-professor-from.html
http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/BilliardBalls.html

Maybe you don�t care for �eggheads�.
http://www.st911.org/
http://physics911.net/spine.htm

You want to hear from a true patriot, a military man,
like former head
of Star Wars and air force colonel, Bob Bowman.
http://benfrank.net/blog/2005/10/27/oil_mafia_treason/
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/030306Evidence.htm

Maybe military types scare you. How about a lady of
letters like poet
Erica Jong?
http://www.etruscanpress.org/02_september_11_2001.html

Maybe you�re not into poetry. Prose is more your
style. How about
Webster Tarpley author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror made
in USA?
http://www.tarpley.net/welcome.html

Or if you prefer your message in song, what about
putting some
of the hard questions to music?
Les Visible: 9/11 Was An Inside Job (music)

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=97737

Maybe you don�t trust actors, authors, musicians or
poets. You want
to hear from a man of God. How about David Ray
Griffin theologian,
professor emeritus at the Claremont School of
Theology?
http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html

What could a theologian know about national security?
You want to hear
from
an insider to the covert world. How about CIA analyst
Ray McGovern, an
expert
on National Security who�s career spanned JFK to GHW
Bush?
http://www.electricpolitics.com/podcast/2006/01/interview_with_ray_mcgovern.html

Or how about David Shayler, the MI5 Whistleblower?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/270605insidejob.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5403286136814574974

Or former cop Michael C. Ruppert?
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/store/books.shtml#ruby

Or Michael Meacher - MP - Former UK Minister for the
environment
who says "The war on terror is bogus", or Andreas Von
Bulow, Former
German
Secretary Of Defense, who says "The official [9/11]
story is so
inadequate
and far fetched that there must be a different one"
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11222.htm

What about another country's government, such as the
Venezuelan
government under Hugo Chavez, supported by billionaire
philanthropist
Jimmy Walter and WTC survivor William Rodriguez, which
is set to
launch an international investigation into 9/11?
http://www.iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/83785

Maybe they're all too far left for you! You want to
hear from a
Republican.
How about Paul Craig Roberts assistant secretary of
the U.S. Treasury
under Ronald Reagan?
http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/28070
http://www.electricpolitics.com/podcast/2006/02/post.html

OK, he�s a Republican, but that was back in the
Reagan
days. Maybe you
need to hear from someone in GW�s administration.
How
about
Morgan Reynolds professor emeritus at Texas A&M
University
and chief economist for the US Department of Labor
during Bush�s first
term?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html

Maybe you don�t want to listen to any of these
individuals, but the
fact is,
a lot of Americans agree with them. Like the 83% of
over 50,000 CNN
Showbiz
Tonight online poll respondents who think the
government is covering up
the truth of 9/11.
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/fourth-night-of-showbiz-tonights-sheen.html

Maybe you don�t care what the American people think?

Yea, we know.

[Ref.
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=11205
]

So what can you do?

Even if you are still skeptical, but think there are
too many questions
about the events of September 11 2001 that need
answers, here are
a few suggestions:

Ask Oprah to host a three-part special that
investigates 9/11
http://www.oprah911.com/

Sign the petition to release the 9/11 information that
is currently
being held by the U.S. government to an independent
review:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/929981172

You can share these links to several 9/11
investigative documentaries
with your friends:

911: In Plane Site
Hard-hitting investigative journalism.
http://unsungwar.com/videos/911InPlaneSite.wmv

Loose Change Second Edition
Well researched and very thought provoking.
http://unsungwar.com/videos/loosechange2.html
http://tinyurl.com/bzg64

Rise
Short and sweet - to the point!
http://unsungwar.com/videos/Rise.swf

9/11 Revisited
This film provides stunning evidence that pre-planted
explosives
were used in the complete demolition of the WTC twin
towers and WTC 7.
http://911revisited.infad.net/video.html

9/11 Eyewitness
A rigorous scientific analysis of the destruction of
the WTC towers.

http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/911Eyewitness.php

Perspective 9-11
This research will give you an insight into the story
behind the 9-11 attacks.
http://tinyurl.com/layem

Pentagon Strike
What hit the Pentagon?
http://unsungwar.com/videos/pentagonstrike.swf

Discover the Truth about the Events surrounding
9-11-01 via
Video Presentations from some of the top Scholars,
Researchers,
and Analysts from the International Community.
http://911busters.com/

9/11 Special: Dutch Television Documentary (20
minutes)
Two senior government ministers express grave doubts
about
the official 9/11 stories and the so-called "war on
terror".

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11222.htm

Watch David Ray Griffin, professor of theology, and
other speakers
who speak candidly and lucidly about the events of
911.

http://911busters.com/911_new_video_productions/index.html

. . .

And finally, if you still think it's all bunkum and
you can debunk the
9/11
"tin-foil hat" conspiracy brigade, then take the
million dollar
challenge!
I'm sure you could use a spare million bucks?

http://www.reopen911.org/Contest.htm

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:04:27 -0400
From: ranger116@webtv.net
Subject: Bush Authorized Leak toTimes, LibbyToldGrand Jury+Ohio Election Rigge

Bush Authorized Leak toTimes, LibbyToldGrand Jury+Ohio Election Rigged

Bush Authorized Leak to Times, Libby Told Grand Jury - April 6, 2006 -
The New York Sun - NY News

Address:http://nysun.com/timesleak.php

Libby Claimed Bush Authorized Plamegate Leak - April 6, 2006

Address:http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0406061libby1.html

"IMPEACH BUSH CHENEY NOW !"

Bush / Cheney authorized CIA Agent's name leaks libby tells Special
Prosecutor- Google News
Address:http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=bush+authorized+leaks+libby&btnG=Search+News

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Just another good reason the U.S. Should Not be giving anything to --
Israel !

World Tribune.com -- Report: Israel gave China anti-missile tech from
U.S.

Address:http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/06/front2453832.0965277776.html
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Cindy Sheehan Responds to Congressman's Attacks
Address:http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/040306A.shtml

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Ohio Election Workers accused of fudging '2004 recount

Address:http://www.cleveland.com/election/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1144312870224340.xml&coll=2

�NEWSPAPER SEARCH�
�FIND A BUSINESS�

More From The Plain Dealer � | � Subscribe To The Plain Dealer

Workers accused of fudging '04 recount
Prosecutor says Cuyahoga skirted rules

Thursday, April 06, 2006
Joan Mazzolini
Plain Dealer Reporter
After the 2004 presidential election, Cuyahoga County election
workers secretly skirted rules designed to make sure all votes were
counted correctly, a special prosecutor charges.
While there is evidence of vote fraud, the prosecutor said their
efforts were aimed at avoiding an expensive - and very public - hand
recount of all votes cast. Three top county elections officials have
been indicted, and Erie County Prosecutor Kevin Baxter says more
indictments are possible.
Michael Vu, executive director of the Cuyahoga County elections
board, said workers followed procedures that had been in place for 23
years. He said board employees had no objection to doing an exhaustive
hand count if needed, meaning they had no motive to break the law.

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Hal Turner Show
Address:http://www.halturnershow.com/index.html

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Help STOP the GOP effort to make Delay their "scape goat" !-05

Friends,
������������������The mainstream
media GOP lapdogs are already starting their damage control campaign to
protect the Republican Party from the disaster that awaits them at the
polls in upcoming elections. Their hope is that the public can be
persuaded to vent it's wrath on THIS ONE Republican now, rather than on
the whole Republican Party next Nov. ( and in 2008).
��������������������On April
5th, for example, the Washington Post editorialized that Rep. Tom
DeLay's (R-TX) departure from Congress will make it "much tougher for
Democrats to flog their 'culture of corruption' message," offering only
a quote from DeLay in support of the assertion. If this bastion of
Liberalism (LOL) is leading the way, just imagine what the rest of the
media will be publishing in the next few months. � � � � � It
looks as though Democratic leaders are going to be trying
to counter this disinformation campaign. But you know that the media is
going to be thwarting those efforts and instead will be "aiding and
abetting the enemy". So it is very important that people like YOU AND ME
do our best to fertilize the grass roots with THE TRUTH in the next few
months!
������������������Here's what I plan
to do, and what I believe you might want to do as well. I've been
gathering a "dossier" on GOP corruption for years and the dirt I expose
on the many pages of my http://LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/GOPcorruption
shows that, far from being limited to "a few rotten apples", the whole
damned Greedy Old Party fish is rotten from head to tail, and that it
has been for years. If enough people can circulate this stuff all over
the country between now and the elections, the stench will be such that
only the die-hard core Republicans will be able to stand it and vote
Republican. Independents and Democrats will not only be repulsed by the
Republicans but will be moved to get to the polls to get the stench out
of their lives!
��������������������Along with
the link above to the CORRUPTION page, I would urge you to share this
one as well :
http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/MediaEmailAddresses.htm as it enables
our allies to bombard the mainstream media with the message that despite
their best efforts to HIDE the G.O.P.'s "culture of corruption", we are
doing THEIR JOB and enabling the public to know better.
��������������������Ray Dubuque,
creator of
http://www.JesusNoRepublican.Org/ which shows why Jesus would abhor
today's Republican Party, &
http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/ which shows why Liberal Democrats are
more like Christ than are Conservative Republicans.

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ALERT : WALTER BURIEN IN JAIL SINCE 11/23/05

Address:http://www.thepowerhour.com/news2/walterburien_jailed.htm

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:05:19 -0400
From: ranger116@webtv.net
Subject: Bush Authorized Leak toTimes, LibbyToldGrand Jury+Ohio Election Rigge

Bush Authorized Leak toTimes, LibbyToldGrand Jury+Ohio Election Rigged

Bush Authorized Leak to Times, Libby Told Grand Jury - April 6, 2006 -
The New York Sun - NY News

Address:http://nysun.com/timesleak.php

Libby Claimed Bush Authorized Plamegate Leak - April 6, 2006

Address:http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0406061libby1.html

"IMPEACH BUSH CHENEY NOW !"

Bush / Cheney authorized CIA Agent's name leaks libby tells Special
Prosecutor- Google News
Address:http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=bush+authorized+leaks+libby&btnG=Search+News

``````````````````````````````````````````````````````
Just another good reason the U.S. Should Not be giving anything to --
Israel !

World Tribune.com -- Report: Israel gave China anti-missile tech from
U.S.

Address:http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/06/front2453832.0965277776.html
``````````````````````````````````````````````````````
Cindy Sheehan Responds to Congressman's Attacks
Address:http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/040306A.shtml

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Ohio Election Workers accused of fudging '2004 recount

Address:http://www.cleveland.com/election/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1144312870224340.xml&coll=2

�NEWSPAPER SEARCH�
�FIND A BUSINESS�

More From The Plain Dealer � | � Subscribe To The Plain Dealer

Workers accused of fudging '04 recount
Prosecutor says Cuyahoga skirted rules

Thursday, April 06, 2006
Joan Mazzolini
Plain Dealer Reporter
After the 2004 presidential election, Cuyahoga County election
workers secretly skirted rules designed to make sure all votes were
counted correctly, a special prosecutor charges.
While there is evidence of vote fraud, the prosecutor said their
efforts were aimed at avoiding an expensive - and very public - hand
recount of all votes cast. Three top county elections officials have
been indicted, and Erie County Prosecutor Kevin Baxter says more
indictments are possible.
Michael Vu, executive director of the Cuyahoga County elections
board, said workers followed procedures that had been in place for 23
years. He said board employees had no objection to doing an exhaustive
hand count if needed, meaning they had no motive to break the law.

````````````````````````````````````````````````````
Check out the Hal TurnerRadio Show here
Hal Turner Show
Address:http://www.halturnershow.com/index.html

`````````````````````````````````````````````````````
Help STOP the GOP effort to make Delay their "scape goat" !-05

Friends,
������������������The mainstream
media GOP lapdogs are already starting their damage control campaign to
protect the Republican Party from the disaster that awaits them at the
polls in upcoming elections. Their hope is that the public can be
persuaded to vent it's wrath on THIS ONE Republican now, rather than on
the whole Republican Party next Nov. ( and in 2008).
��������������������On April
5th, for example, the Washington Post editorialized that Rep. Tom
DeLay's (R-TX) departure from Congress will make it "much tougher for
Democrats to flog their 'culture of corruption' message," offering only
a quote from DeLay in support of the assertion. If this bastion of
Liberalism (LOL) is leading the way, just imagine what the rest of the
media will be publishing in the next few months. � � � � � It
looks as though Democratic leaders are going to be trying
to counter this disinformation campaign. But you know that the media is
going to be thwarting those efforts and instead will be "aiding and
abetting the enemy". So it is very important that people like YOU AND ME
do our best to fertilize the grass roots with THE TRUTH in the next few
months!
������������������Here's what I plan
to do, and what I believe you might want to do as well. I've been
gathering a "dossier" on GOP corruption for years and the dirt I expose
on the many pages of my http://LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/GOPcorruption
shows that, far from being limited to "a few rotten apples", the whole
damned Greedy Old Party fish is rotten from head to tail, and that it
has been for years. If enough people can circulate this stuff all over
the country between now and the elections, the stench will be such that
only the die-hard core Republicans will be able to stand it and vote
Republican. Independents and Democrats will not only be repulsed by the
Republicans but will be moved to get to the polls to get the stench out
of their lives!
��������������������Along with
the link above to the CORRUPTION page, I would urge you to share this
one as well :
http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/MediaEmailAddresses.htm as it enables
our allies to bombard the mainstream media with the message that despite
their best efforts to HIDE the G.O.P.'s "culture of corruption", we are
doing THEIR JOB and enabling the public to know better.
��������������������Ray Dubuque,
creator of
http://www.JesusNoRepublican.Org/ which shows why Jesus would abhor
today's Republican Party, &
http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.Org/ which shows why Liberal Democrats are
more like Christ than are Conservative Republicans.

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ALERT : WALTER BURIEN IN JAIL SINCE 11/23/05

Address:http://www.thepowerhour.com/news2/walterburien_jailed.htm

Changed:12:36 PM on Saturday, March 11, 2006

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:14:17 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Re: [planehuggers] WTC Planehugger Therapy -Top 30 FAQ

Interviews were not conducted to establish what hit the buildings.

No attempt has been made to contact all witnesses -- e.g. an ad in the New York Post or NYTs.

Finding a subset of witnesses who contradict each other tells nothing about what the majority of witnesses agree on etc. Events that we know for sure really happened can be made to look unlikely by a biased sampling of witnesses. All witnesses are needed -- and direct questioning on the issue of whether a crashbombing plane was seen must be clear in each case.

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
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From: Nico Haupt
To: planehuggers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: [planehuggers] WTC Planehugger Therapy -Top 30 FAQ

http://www.911closeup.com/nico/FAQ_planehuggers.html

WTC Planehugger Therapy

-Top 30 FAQ
(incl. "9/11 NY Aircraft 'Witnesses'" (04/07/06) at http://911closeup.com/nico/witness_contradictions.html )

By Nico Haupt
April 7, 2006

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:38:30 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Fw: British and Jewish conspiracies are in fact one -=- "three conspiracies" - don't expose each other, because-=- David Gergen - There is no Israel 'Lobby'

From: "Peter Myers" <myers@cyberone.com.au>

April 3, 2006

(1) British and Jewish conspiracies are in fact one
(2) "three conspiracies" - don't expose each other, because ALL would be hurt
(3) & (4) The Israel Lobby - John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt
(5) The New York Zionist editorializes on the Mearsheimer-Walt article
(6) Boston - Paper on Israel Lobby Raises Hackles, but Fails to Gain Traction in Congress
(7) Stephen Walt's expos� on Jewish role in US policy is disowned
(8) Harvard disowns Walt report
(9) Chomsky shrinks the Israel Lobby
(10) David Gergen - There is no Israel 'Lobby'
(11) US College Grads Less Able to Read and Comprehend
(12) Religion as a natural phenomenon

(1) British and Jewish conspiracies are in fact one

Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:06:29 -0800 (PST) From: Henry Lindner
<milesian2003@yahoo.com> To: Peter Myers <myers@cyberone.com.au> CC:
henry@savethemales.ca

Peter,

Your argument with Henry Makow is one of emphasis only.The British and Jewish
(and now American) conspiracies are in fact one because they have the same
root--the Old Testament.

The thoughts of every human being are determined by the memes that inhabit
his/her mind.Unless a person actively seeks to criticize and replace the memes
introduced into his mind by family, religion, and government, he remains under
their control.Few persons are able or willing to undertake this task, fewer
still ever complete it.The controlling memes are those which deal with
foundations--such as the nature of reality, the nature of good and evil, the
relationship between human races, the relationship between parent and child, the
ultimate origins and fate of the Cosmos, etc.They are the foundational memes
which determine all other memes in the superstructure.

Richard Dawkins has drawn the close analogy between memes that control our
mental lives and the genes that control our physical bodies.Memes, like genes,
persist if they are able to perpetuate themselves and spread.Memes that induce
the infected person to kill those who are not infected, or to undertake their
indoctrination are more likely to survive and spread.The memes of the O.T. have
been very successful for these reasons.O.T. memes were spread to non-Jews via
the mutant forms of Christianity and Islam.

Any person raised in a Jewish or Protestant Christian environment is infected
during their formative years with foundational memes from the Old
Testament.Protestant children are told O.T. stories about the Israelites
committing ethnic cleansing, rape, and theft in Palestine--with God's
blessing.They can only conclude that such actions are just and good.Both
Englishmen and Americans have believed, and still do believe that they are the
spiritual, if not physical descendants of the Israelites--they are God's favored
people.This racist meme has motivated and justified their genocidal actions and
colonialism--up to this moment.Note that Catholics and Muslims are relatively
less infected by O.T. memes.Protestantism, by emphasizing the study of the O.T.,
ensured the Judaization of Protestant Christians.Jews are obviously the group
most profoundly affected by the O.T. memes.

How many Americans, Englishmen, Christians or Jews have thoroughly cleansed
their minds of O.T. memes? Rebelling against the memes is not equivalent to
deprogramming oneself from them.Trotskyism as you define it is nothing more than
a rebellion against the O.T.'s profound misogyny, homophobia (death for
homosexuality) and authoritarianism (death for disobedience to parents, death
for demanding democracy).It failed to replace these O.T. memes with
scientifically and philosophically defensible theories concerning the nature of
men, women, sex, family, or economy--as both you and Henry have demonstrated.

Anyone who wants to understand the evil actions of Jews, Christian, Brits, and
Americans needs look no further than the sacred texts these people venerate.The
O.T. is a manual for the enslavement or murder of the rest of mankind by God's
chosen people.The "peace" it contemplates is requires the total subservience of
the rest of mankind to the elite group.It advocates the death penalty for
disobedience to parents, rulers, and scriptural laws.Please read:
http://www.geocities.com/gergae2004/Writings/Torah.htm for an in-depth
discussion of these evil books. For a Jewish source of the same conclusions, see
http://www.daatemet.org.il/en_daathalacha.html For an analysis of how these
memes produced White supremacism read:
http://www.geocities.com/gergae2004/Writings/White.htm

The implications of these simple facts are astounding:The "holy books" that
children are taught to revere are the root of all evil!They are literally
"Satanic".Judaism and all religions or ideologies based upon it are profoundly,
utterly evil.All persons infected by O.T. memes are ipso facto in a state of war
with the rest of mankind.This applies particularly to Jews as they are most
strongly affected by the memes, but it also applies to Christians and
Muslims--who are also Jews in a sense--belonging to various reformist sects of
Judaism.All attempts to reform the evil O.T. (such as those of Jesus, Mohammed,
Marx and Trotsky) have failed and must fail.False and destructive foundational
ideas cannot be reformed, they must be replaced.

Deprogramming oneself from O.T. memes is difficult for anyone, but is most
difficult for those who identify themselves as Jews, for not only do they have
to overcome the religious memes that tie them to the O.T., but also the
cultural, psychological, racial, and nationalist memes.For this reason--due to
their greater infection by O.T. memes--Jews have a unique leadership role in the
elite agenda to rule over and exploit the rest of mankind.They set the agenda
and control the action since they are not intellectually confused by the
contradictory ideas of the reformist sects.

The only long-term solution is for all mankind to grasp the evil of these
scriptures, reject them in toto, and embrace scientific philosophy as the
open-ended natural "religion" of mankind--the only means we have for
understanding the Cosmos and ourselves.

Henry Lindner, MD

(2) "three conspiracies" - don't expose each other, because ALL would be hurt

Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:57:22 -0500 From: "Tim Dory" <tdory@eng.paslin.com>

You state it might be three conspiracies, but how can it REALLY be three?If they
were truly in competition (as three would suggest), why wouldn't they be
"blowing the whistle" on each other?If they really would ALL be hurt by
disclosure of their conspiratorial methods, then wouldn't that indicate an
overseeing guidance (therefore one guiding conspiracy) of some sort for these
two or three factions?Some of us might speculate it is spiritual - Satan and
those serving him at the "top" (not two or three religion/race/world factions -
which are used and beneath).Isn't WW2 explained in this way - the Hegelian
dialectic of controlling both the fascist socialist powers and the allied (with
communism) powers?You would say there are two conspiracies there (?) - when
really there is only one - guiding/directing both factions (through conflict to
a new re-fashioned world order).Hitler didn't see it nor comprehend it
apparently and thought he could appease the British empire/faction (Dunkirk),
Stalin may have had more of a clue (and fought it using worldly terror methods
of his own) but still succumbed eventually.

So we might agree that it really IS only one conspiracy.At that point I suggest
this to you - if secrecy is their greatest defense, would they want to crack
down on criticism (of their source)?Would they promote their source/power
through writings of Karl Marx (an obvious pawn/stooge of theirs)?Isn't it better
to just censor/edit/ignore to maintain secrecy?We see the obvious racial war
divide lines between Islam and Judaic/Christian(false in my opinion) falling
into place so my speculation is that the top echelon can't be one of these -
seeking us to choose a side in it and go to war/hate.That's the embodiment of
their methodology and what all the propaganda seeks for us - to choose a "side"
in this battle they want (to ultimately destroy Islam/Judao/Christian theism -
my speculation.Ultimately no competition in devotion to THEIR world totalitarian
rule.)

Right now, it serves no purpose (other than THEIRS) to "blame the Jews" as one
can't even name names and specifics - it is nearly the entire world controlled
by Anglo-western powers that is enforcing this "anti-Semitism" crackdown.Who's
"the Jews" and WHAT IS A JEW is entirely debatable and argumentative anyway.And
it is a fight fire with fire, return evil for evil approach and just doesn't
work.To "blame the Jews" is decidedly picking a lower faction and playing their
world game (similar to what Stalin or Hitler did) in my opinion.You may think
Stalin had it right (his form of terrorism was certainly tyrannical and
murderous too though, wouldn't you agree?)It is certainly a failed option in my
opinion (no one I see even has the power Stalin did to even try).

At the risk of offending (and I hope you are not offended), here's an excerpt of
what I wrote to Bobby on this that I wanted to share with you:

Hello Bobby,

Great to hear from you too!I think Peter's issue may be more spiritual/God
related, as his stance appears to be the typical "educated in the evils of
religious history" in his research.Makow delves into the truth a bit - that this
is a spiritual battle (fighting the world using worldly methodology just won't
cut it) and Peter doesn't appear ready to embrace this (yet).It perhaps may be a
"truism" that all the chaos we "see" happening is exactly according to (God's)
plan in a "reap what you sow" world - and perhaps THAT forces a dividing where
people must seek spirit and truth (His kingdom within the individual - following
Christ) as the only true way/path.Faith is in knowing what we "see" (and our
senses - which are paramount to God haters/world followers) is not truth, nor
are we chained to its apparent deterministic nature.We can break the "chain" of
evil by promoting Christ's kingdom/principles - return love for hate/evil.Christ
HAS set us free from that when we follow Him in this way (and it's childlike
faith in Him that KNOWS that).Thanks again for your insight and research in this
Bobby

(3) The Israel Lobby - John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:37:28 -0500 (EST) From: "IHR News - March 27, 2006"
<news@ihr.org>

The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy

Profs. John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt

http://ksgnotes1.harvard .edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP06-011/
$File/rwp_06_011_walt.pdf

The U.S. national interest should be the primary object of American foreign
policy. For the past several decades, however, ...the centerpiece of U.S. Middle
East policy has been its relationship with Israel. The combination of unwavering
U.S. support for Israel and the related effort to spread democracy throughout
the region has inflamed Arab and Islamic opinion and jeopardized U.S. security.
This situation has no equal in American political history. ...The overall thrust
of U.S. policy in the region is due almost entirely to U.S. domestic politics,
and especially to the activities of the "Israel Lobby."

Jewish Groups Angry But Quiet About Critique of Israel Lobby

Forward (New York)

http:// www.forward.com/articles/7548

In the face of one of the harshest reports on the pro- Israel lobby to emerge
from academia, Jewish organizations are holding fire in order to avoid
generating publicity for their critics. Officials at Jewish organizations are
furious over "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" ...Despite their anger,
Jewish organizations are avoiding a frontal debate with the two scholars, while
at the same time seeking indirect ways to rebut and discredit the scholars'
arguments...

(4) The Israel Lobby - John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt

Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:33:03 -0500 (EST) From: IHR News <news@ihr.org>

The Israel Lobby

John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt - The London Review of Books

ht tp://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

For the past several decades the centrepiece of US Middle Eastern policy has
been its relationship with Israel. The combination of unwavering support for
Israel and the related effort to spread 'democracy' throughout the region has
inflamed Arab and Islamic opinion and jeopardised not only US security but that
of much of the rest of the world. This situation has no equal in American
political history. Why has the US been willing to set aside its own security and
that of many of its allies in order to advance the interests of another state?
The thrust of US policy in the region derives almost entirely from domestic
politics, and especially the activities of the 'Israel Lobby'. Since the October
War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing
that given to any other state. ==

US Middle East Policy Set By Pro-Israel Lobby, Says New Study

Haaretz (Israel)

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages /695495.html

The U.S. Middle East policy is not in America's national interest and is
motivated primarily by the country's pro-Israel lobby, according to a study
published Thursday by researchers from Harvard University and the University of
Chicago. Observers in Washington said Thursday that the study was liable to stir
up a tempest and spur renewed debate about the function of the American Israel
Public Affairs Committee lobby. The Fatah office in Washington distributed the
article to an extensive mailing list. "No lobby has managed to divert U.S.
foreign policy as far from what the American national interest would otherwise
suggest, while simultaneously convincing Americans that U.S. and Israeli
interests are essentially identical," write the authors of the study.

(5) The New York Zionist editorializes on the Mearsheimer-Walt article

Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:47:26 -0800 From: Jeff Blankfort
<jblankfort@earthlink.net>

http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=29648

"For those covering the effort of anti-Israel academics to demonize the Jewish
state in the American academy, things don't get more dramatic than the scandal
at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government. It turns out that the Kennedy
School's academic dean, Stephen Walt, whose shoddiness and biases in a paper he
co-wrote called "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" ignited the scandal,
holds a chair called the Robert and Renee Belfer professorship in international
affairs. When we called Mr. Belfer to get his reaction, he clammed up tighter
than a conch in a mudslide. But the skivvy around New York, where Mr. Belfer
lives, is that the billionaire former Enron director, who has been generous to
Jewish causes, was so infuriated and mortified by what Dean Walt was doing that
he asked that Dean Walt not use the title of the Belfer professorship in
promoting the article. As our Meghan Clyne reports elsewhere on the page, the
Harvard and Kennedy School logos were promptly removed from the version of the
paper that is posted on the university's Web site."

(6) Boston - Paper on Israel Lobby Raises Hackles, but Fails to Gain Traction in
Congress

Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:37:50 -0800 From: Jeff Blankfort
<jblankfort@earthlink.net>

"One of the harshest critics of the paper was Noam Chomsky, the political
theorist who routinely excoriates the U.S.-Israel relationship. He ridiculed the
paper's central "wag the dog" thesis, that the United States has "been willing
to set aside its own security in order to advance the interests of another
state."

Did anyone expect it would gain traction in Congress, of all places, where every
member knew the article was true?

http://www.cjp.org/content_display.html?ArticleID=179767

(7) Stephen Walt's expos� on Jewish role in US policy is disowned

Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:54:31 +1000 From: Peter Marshall <petemar@tsn.cc>

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2110150,00.html

Expos� on Jewish role in US policy is disowned

By Richard Beeston, Diplomatic Editor

HARVARD UNIVERSITY is distancing itself from a report by one of its senior
academics that accuses the Jewish lobby in America of subvertingUS foreign
policy in Israel's interest.

After a furious outcry from prominent American Jews, Harvard has removed its
logo from the study and disowned any responsibility for the views put forward in
the working paper, released two weeks ago.

Yesterday it confirmed that Stephen Walt, the co-author of The Israel Lobby and
US Foreign Policy, will be stepping down in June as academic dean of the John F.
Kennedy School of Government to become an ordinary professor.

Professor Walt and John Mearsheimer, of the University of Chicago, caused a
storm of protest when they published their report, which argued that America's
interests were being manipulated by the pro-Israel lobby, using a network of
politicians, journalists and academics. It said that the Jewish lobby was a key
factor behind President Bush's decision to invade Iraq and cautioned that the US
could be drawn into conflicts against Israel's other enemies in the region.

No one disputes that the Jewish lobby is an influential force in US politics and
that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac) is one of the most
powerful organisations in Washington. Aipac is described in the report as "a de
facto agent of a foreign government (that) has a stranglehold on the US
Congress". It also challenges the need for America to give Israel $3 billon
(�1.73 billion) in aid every year, worth about $500 for every Israeli citizen.
It argues that Israel's critics are routinely branded anti-Semites.

Professor Walt said yesterday that he and his co-author stood by their paper and
welcomed "serious scholarly discussion of its arguments and evidence". Instead,
they have provoked an emotional and angry response, including criticism from
other scholars at Harvard.

Marvin Kalb, a member of the Kennedy School, said that the report contained
factual errors and failed to meet basic academic standards.

Alan Dershowitz, the famous Harvard criminal lawyer, denounced the report as
ignorant propaganda, and said that he was writing a paper to refute its claims.

Jerrold Nadler, a Democrat congressman from New York, accused the authors of
finding "Jewish conspirators under every bed and controlling every major
American institution".

The report states: "Pressure from Israel and the [Jewish] lobby was not only a
factor behind the decision to attack Iraq in March 2003, but it was critical...
the war was motivated in good part by a desire to make Israel more secure.

"Equally worrying, the lobby's campaign for regime change in Iran and Syria
could lead the US to attack those countries, with potentially disastrous
effects."

(8) Harvard disowns Walt report

Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:14:25 +1000 From: "John Bennett"
<johntusonbennett@hotmail.com> To: johntusonbennett@hotmail.com

Harvard disowns anti-Jew report

Richard Beeston, London March 31, 2006

HARVARD University is distancing itself from a report by one of its senior
academics that accuses the Jewish lobby of subverting US foreign policy in
Israel's interest.

After a furious outcry from prominent American Jews, Harvard has removed its
logo from the study and disowned any responsibility for the views put forward in
the working paper, released two weeks ago.

It has confirmed that Stephen Walt, the co-author of The Israel Lobby and US
Foreign Policy, will be stepping down in June as academic dean of the
prestigious John F. Kennedy School of Government to become an ordinary
professor.

Professor Walt and John Mearsheimer, of the University of Chicago, caused a
storm of protest when they published their report, which argued that the US's
interests were being manipulated by the pro-Israel lobby using a network of
politicians, journalists and academics.

It said the Jewish lobby was a key factor behind President George W. Bush's
decision to invade Iraq and cautioned that the US could be drawn into more
conflicts against Israel's other enemies in the region.

(9) Chomsky shrinks the Israel Lobby

Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:01:10 -0800 From: Jeff Blankfort
<jblankfort@earthlink.net>

"there are far more powerful interests that have a stake in what happens in the
Persian Gulf region than does AIPAC [or the Lobby generally], such as the oil
companies, the arms industry and other special interests whose lobbying
influence and campaign contributions far surpass that of the much-vaunted
Zionist lobby and its allied donors to congressional races."

This claim can not be substantiated simply because it isn't true. In 2002, for
example, Haim Saban, the Israel-American who funds the Saban Center at the
Brooking Institute and is a big contributor to AIPAC, gave $12.3 million to the
Democratic Party, almost as much as the $14 plus million the arms manufacturing
PACs gave to both parties. In 2001, Mother Jones listed on its web site, the 400
leading contributors to the 2000 national elections. Seven of the first 10 were
Jewish, as were 12 of the top 20 and 125 of the top 250. I didn't go any
further. Were all these Jews supporters of Israel? To some degree it is quite
likely, but, as anumber of observers over the years have said, in the eyes of
Congress, there is only one key issue for American Jews and that is Israel. Now,
if "ME Scholar Stephen Zunes," who Chomsky quotes, or Chomsky himself, has
evidence that contradicts this, let them present it. I have sent copies of this
email to both of them.

The rest of his comments on the Mearsheimer-Walt essay are the standard
boilerplate that Chomsky has repeated in a half a dozen or more books over the
years as one can tell from the age of his references. The passage of time
doesn't make them any more valid. If people wish to find out more about
Chomsky's position on this issue from a critical standpoint they can read an
article I wrote a year ago entitled, Damage Control: Noam Chomsky and the
Israel-Palestine Conflict by clicking on
http://www.leftcurve.org/LC29WebPages/Chomsky.html

Chomsky has not commented, at least publicly, on that article even though he
received many requests to do so while acknowledging that this was the reason he
elected to respond to the Mearsheimer-Walt essay.

(10) David Gergen - There is no Israel 'Lobby'

Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:56:33 -0800 From: Jeff Blankfort
<jblankfort@earthlink.net>

The NY Daily News is owned by Mortimer Zuckerman, former president of the
Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American Organizations. He is also the
owner of the US News and World Report in which he repeatedly editorialized for
the war on Iraq. Nub said. One more proof that Mearsheimer and Walt were on
target.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/v-pfriendly/story/402910p-341257c.html

New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com There is no Israel 'Lobby' BY
DAVID GERGEN Sunday, March 26th, 2006

It brings no joy to issue a public rebuttal against a valued colleague, but
there are moments that demand no less. The occasion is the publication of an
essay titled "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy," written by two
professors, John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen Walt, the
academic dean and my colleague at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.

In essence, their 82-page piece argues that U.S. policy in the Middle East has
been hijacked by a pro-Israel "Lobby." "The core of the Lobby," they say, "is
comprised of American Jews who make a significant effort in their daily lives to
bend U.S. foreign policy so that it advances Israel's interests."

As a result, "the United States has a terrorism problem in good part because it
is so closely allied with Israel."

Mearsheimer and Walt assert that for decades, and especially since the Six-Day
War in 1967, the lobby has manipulated our political system to give short shrift
to Palestinians, was a "critical element" in the decision to invade Iraq and is
now skewing our policy on Iran (the United States, they say, "can live with a
nuclear Iran").

Not only are these charges wildly at variance with what I have personally
witnessed in the Oval Office, but they also impugn the unstinting service to
America's national security by public figures like Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk and
many others.

As a Christian, let me add that it is also wrong and unfair to call into
question the loyalty of millions of American Jews who have faithfully supported
Israel while also working tirelessly and generously to advance America's cause,
both at home and abroad. They should be praised, not pilloried.

To be sure, pro-Israeli groups in this country, led by the American Israel
Public Affairs Committee, push hard to gain the support of U.S. political
leaders. AIPAC is officially registered as a lobbying group, but that does not
mean that its members are engaging in something sinister.

It is just not true that the Israel "Lobby" has captured U.S. policy toward the
Middle East. As David McCullough writes, Harry Truman recognized Israel in 1948
out of humanitarian concerns and in spite of pressure from Jewish groups, not
because of it. Since then, 10 straight American Presidents have befriended
Israel - not because they were under pressure but because they believed America
had made a commitment to Israel's survival, just as we have to other threatened
outposts of freedom like Berlin, South Korea and Taiwan.

Over the course of four tours in the White House, I never once saw a decision in
the Oval Office to tilt U.S. foreign policy in favor of Israel at the expense of
America's interest.

Moreover, history shows many instances when our Presidents have sharply opposed
the Israeli government. I was there when Ronald Reagan, a great friend of
Israel, was so repelled by pictures of victims in Lebanon that he insisted the
Israelis call off their assault on Beirut (they did).

Has Washington sometimes tilted too much toward Israel? Of course, just as we
have toward other friends overseas. Is our policy in the Middle East worthy of
serious debate? Absolutely, and we should defend the right of academics to
question it.

But let that debate go forward with a clear mind and an understanding heart. And
let us remember that our friendship with Israel has always been rooted in noble
values - just as our friendships have been with other outposts of freedom.

Gergen is a professor of public service at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of
Government and director of its Center for Public Leadership. He served as a
White House adviser to Presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan and
Bill Clinton.

(11) US College Grads Less Able to Read and Comprehend

{I'm not sure who sent this - Peter M.}

The Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/12/24/AR2005122400701.html

Literacy experts and educators say they are stunned by the results of a recent
adult literacy assessment, which shows that the reading proficiency of college
graduates has declined in the past decade, with no obvious explanation. "It's
appalling -- it's really astounding," said Michael Gorman, president of the
American Library Association and a librarian at California State University at
Fresno. "Only 31 percent of college graduates can read a complex book and
extrapolate from it. That's not saying much for the remainder."

(12) Religion as a natural phenomenon

Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:00:36 +0500 From: "Eric Walberg" <eric@albatros.uz>

Hi Peter and Israel,

Here is a very insightful critique of two books on religion. I'm curious as to
why Gray insists that it is not belief, but practice that is the core of
religion. Do either of you agree with this?

Eric

>it is not supernatural belief that is hard-wired in humans: it is the need for
myth, and it fuels secular belief as much as traditional religion. The idea that
humanity is moving to a higher state of intellectual development is pervasive in
modern culture, but belied by the facts. In the 1930s, many secular thinkers
believed a new type of human being was emerging in the Soviet Union, and today
there are many who believe that the advance of science will rid the world of
irrationality.

This humanist faith in progress is a myth no different in kind from the stories
that are repeated in churches and temples. Myths are not primitive scientific
theories that belong in the infancy of the species. They are symbolic narratives
that give meaning to the lives of those who accept them. The chief difference
between religious and secular believers is that, while the former have long
known their myths to be extremely questionable, the latter imagine their own to
be literally true.

Breaking the Spell: religion as a natural phenomenon Daniel C Dennett Allen
Lane, the Penguin Press, 464pp, �25

Six Impossible Things Before Breakfast: the evolutionary origins of belief Lewis
Wolpert Faber & Faber, 243pp, �14.99

Reviewed by John Gray http://www.newstatesman.com/Bookshop/300000111597

In an interview he gave not long before he died, P G Wodehouse was asked whether
he had any religious beliefs. His reply - "It's frightfully hard to say" - has
always seemed to me to display an insight into the ambiguities of belief that is
commonly lacking when philosophers talk about religion. Typically, philosophers
take it for granted that religions are systems of belief, and condemn them for
failing to meet standards of proof that are applied in other areas of human
life, above all in science. Contemporary philosophy has not advanced very far
beyond the views of the late-Victorian anthropologist J G Frazer, who, in his
once hugely influential study of myth, The Golden Bough (1890), portrayed
religion as a form of magical thinking.

In the spirit of 19th-century positivism, Frazer assumed that myths were
primitive scientific theories - a highly reductive view that later cultural
anthropologists have abandoned. Yet the idea of religion as a magical belief
system remains the default position of most contemporary philosophers, and it is
evident on every page of Daniel Dennett's Breaking the Spell.

Dennett is best known for his militant atheism, and, like other evangelists of
unbelief, he views the world through the conceptual grid of western monotheism.
His view of religion itself proves this; he defines it as a social system "whose
participants avow belief in a supernatural agent or agents whose approval is to
be sought". This may be commonplace as a perception of religion, but it is also
highly parochial. One cannot make a sharp distinction between natural processes
and supernatural agents unless one presupposes a view of the world something
like that presented in the biblical creation story, and the distinction is not
found in most of the world's religions. For example, in animism - which must
rank as the oldest and most universal religion - spirits are seen as part of the
natural world.

More fundamentally, it is a mistake to assume that belief is the core of
religion. This may seem self-evident to many philosophers, but in fact belief is
not very important in most religions. Even within Christianity there are
traditions, such as Eastern Orthodoxy, in which it has never been central. For
the majority of humankind, religion has always been about practice rather than
belief. In fixating on the belief-content of religion, Dennett emulates
Christianity at its most rationalistic and dogmatic. Pascal knew better, and
understood that faith is not so much the basis of the religious life as a
derivative from it. Dennett mocks those who say that life without faith has no
meaning as "believers in belief". Yet he displays a zealous faith in unbelief
that is far more inimical to doubt, and there is more scepticism in a single
line of the Pensees than in the whole of Dennett's leaden tome.

Breaking the Spell approaches its subject with a relentless, simple-minded
cleverness that precludes anything like profundity, and much of it seems
designed to demonstrate the author's intellectual ingenuity rather than to
advance the reader's understanding. (For example, there is a curious appendix on
Kim Philby in which Dennett maintains that Philby's career is a real-life
instance of W V Quine's principle of radical indeterminacy.) When Dennett
delivers on the promise of the book - a naturalistic explanation of religion -
the result is embarrassingly naive. The explanation turns out to be a variation
on Richard Dawkins's theory of memes - units of information whose competition
somehow explains the development of thought. One problem with memes is that,
unlike genes, they are not identifiable physical structures. Ideas are elusive
things - think of the ways in which artistic styles emerge and develop. It shows
a sorry lack of cultural understanding to imagine that the baroque, say, can be
reduced to a few simple structures.

In a postscript, Dennett defends memes against the criticism that they lack the
clear identity of genes, but the real objection is that it is not a theory at
all, as it fails to identify anything like a mechanism of cultural evolution.
This is hardly surprising, given that there is nothing in the history of ideas
that resembles natural selection in biology. Some ideas seem to be more
contagious than others, but those which prevail are often the ones that have
power on their side. Pagan religion did not disappear from the ancient world
because it lost out in competition with non-pagan memes but because, following
the conversion of Constantine, it was repressed. Like other evolutionist
ideologies, the theory of memes passes over the role of power in history.

The appeal of the theory is that it reduces the fertile chaos of human thought
to objects that can be manipulated, and seems to open up the prospect of memetic
engineering - consciously directing the intellectual evolution of the species by
disseminating some memes and discouraging others. In previous books Dennett has
hinted that human evolution could be directed in this way, with his own ideas
helping to guide the process, but happily the possibilities of memetic
engineering are rather limited. Ideas can be suppressed, but they cannot be
controlled. They have too many unexpected consequences, and always slip out of
the hands of their authors. Like history as a whole, the history of ideas will
always be partly a matter of chance. An attempt to defeat this contingency, the
theory of memes is at bottom an expression of magical thinking and as remote
from genuine science as "intelligent design".

Unlike Dennett, Lewis Wolpert writes as a practising scientist, and Six
Impossible Things Before Breakfast is a robust defence of materialism that
contains much interesting information. Relying heavily on evidence from the
advancing science of evolutionary psychology, Wolpert interprets religion as a
type of adaptive behaviour in which our beliefs are shaped by our practical
needs. Like Dennett, he seems ignorant of the vast range of religious traditions
in which belief is peripheral. Again, he thinks of religion as having to do with
supernatural phenomena, writing naively: "Religion is concerned with the
supernatural, and this involves forces and causes beyond our normal experience
of nature." After a long discussion which shows that he sees it in Frazer-like
terms as the prototype of irrationality, Wolpert concludes that religion is
"deeply rooted in our biology".

I am sure he is right, but it is not supernatural belief that is hard-wired in
humans: it is the need for myth, and it fuels secular belief as much as
traditional religion. The idea that humanity is moving to a higher state of
intellectual development is pervasive in modern culture, but belied by the
facts. In the 1930s, many secular thinkers believed a new type of human being
was emerging in the Soviet Union, and today there are many who believe that the
advance of science will rid the world of irrationality.

This humanist faith in progress is a myth no different in kind from the stories
that are repeated in churches and temples. Myths are not primitive scientific
theories that belong in the infancy of the species. They are symbolic narratives
that give meaning to the lives of those who accept them. The chief difference
between religious and secular believers is that, while the former have long
known their myths to be extremely questionable, the latter imagine their own to
be literally true.

Breaking the Spell and Six Impossible Things Before Breakfast present themselves
as examples of freethinking. Actually they are secular sermons, which will be of
interest chiefly to anxious humanists seeking to boost their sagging faith. If
it is the liber-ating air of sceptical doubt you want, you are better off
reading Pascal - or P G Wodehouse.

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Faber)

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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:48:57 -0700
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Subject: Fw: Mossad operatives dancing for joy at 9-11 WTC would not have been so happy unless they knew there were no Jews in there. Refuting the Demolition Debunkers, by Morgan Reynolds

Mossad operatives dancing for joy at 9-11 WTC would not have been so happy unless they knew there were no Jews in there. -- Dick Eastman http://bedoper.com/eastman

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April 3, 2006

Subject: Refuting the Demolition Debunkers, by Morgan Reynolds

(1) Why Larry Silverstein can't get it up, by Jerry Mazza
(2) Moussaoui wore 'stun belt' for new testimony
(3) 911 & the dancin' israelis
(4) Refuting the Demolition Debunkers, by Morgan Reynolds

(1) Why Larry Silverstein can't get it up, by Jerry Mazza

Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:44:24 -0000 From: "Rowan Berkeley"
<rowan_berkeley@yahoo.co.uk>

Why Larry Silverstein can't get it up By Jerry Mazza, Online Journal, Mar 21,
2006 http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_611.shtml

No, it's not a job for Viagra, trust me. But some good fresh investors would
help. Governor Pataki and Mayor Bloomberg have told Silverstein to get up the
$2.3 billion Freedom Tower, at least make a start, by next month or "move out of
the way."

This means Silverstein, who holds the lease for the World Trade Center site,
would have to turn over control of building the new tower and a second building
to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the site's owners. After all,
it's been more than four years and Larry hasn't gotten it up. Que pasa?

On the other hand, he's gotten up his new Tower 7, to replace the old one he had
actually owned. But this T 7 is bigger and better than ever, 52 floors not 47.
You know, sometimes you just have to be in the mood.

Larry actually ordered his original Tower 7 "pulled" seven hours after Towers
1and 2 came down. He claimed there was so much fire damage in this redundant,
steel-framed 47-floor building that before it fell and caused any more pain, he
would "pull it." And so it was done.

The trouble is you don't just "pull it." It takes weeks to rig a building with
charges and heavy explosives at all the vital structural points. Then, you can
"pull it" and POW! It'll come down in 10 seconds, just like the redundant
steel-framed Towers 1 and 2, and at the speed of gravity, into a neat footprint
of its free-fall.

Tower 7 also left molten steel and somewhat evaporated steel members, although
the fire was nothing compared to Towers 1 and 2. Maybe it wasn't fire that
melted them, but high power explosives. Ya never know, as we say in New York.

Also Tower 7 happened to house the Secret Service's largest field office, over
200 employees and as Michael Ruppert suggests some of the devices that guided
the liners into the buildings. 7 also housed the IRS, the SEC (with thousands of
Wall Street scam case files in it), the FBI, CIA, and Rudy Giuliani's Control
Center. They were evacuated for the most part.

Tower 7 did take with it oft-stymied Osama hunter John O'Neill, the ex-Terror
Head who quit the FBI after 30 yeas in disgust. He was the same John O'Neil just
appointed head of WTC security. Aren't these amazing coincidences, one right
after another, like cutter charges, boom boom boom boom boom, as the firemen
described occurring in Towers 1 and 2, along with two huge explosions each, one
from the basement, and one from the top of each tower?

But I digress. Lucky Larry and the Silverstein Group leased the WTC from the PA
for $3.2 billion for 99 years, a sweetheart deal if ever. They also had the
prescience to ramp the insurance to $3.55 billion just weeks before 9/11,
including coverage for terror attacks. After the catastrophe, Silverstein's
lawyers had the bright idea to ask for $7.1 billion, saying the two hits (within
minutes of each other) constituted two separate acts. What beauties.

In fact, Larry was joyful at the thought of rebuilding under these terms. That
was his thing. And he would get the WTC up bigger and better than ever, with a
$9 billion tab.

Trouble In Silverstein City

Where things start to come apart for Larry-boy is with those pesky insurance
companies, who barely like to pay what they owe you, let alone what you're
padding. After two years of Larry's Silverstein group haggling in court with
multiple insurers, spending a million bucks on lawyers, the judge turned and
said, sorry fellas, it was one hit, you get 3.5 billion, period. Now, get outa
here!

Some $700 million got cut off the top for one of Larry's lenders, GMAC, the
retail leaseholder. Then there's a $125 million rent tab coming up from the Port
of Authority in July. And money was spent on cleaning things up plus
infrastructure costs. Net net, he's left with some $2.9 billion, maybe even
less, who knows for sure. I mean, poor baby, he's not hurting like all those
people who lost their jobs or worse lost their lives, but he's gotta get it up,
$2.3 billion and the Freedom Tower. And people are saying he doesn't have the
jack.

Also, the Port of Authority would like a chunk of the insurance money. So Larry
is scrambling to put things together. He sounds like an angst-ridden Woody Allen
in a double-breasted suit, with a slicked-back parted haircut. Yet inside, the
guy's pure steel, like one of the Towers.

When he finally had a deal with the Port of Authority, he threw a set of new
demands on the table that scuttled the bargaining. Larry assumed he had Pataki
"over a barrel" because he holds the lease. But George, like his namesake, is an
ambitious man with his eye on the White House. He doesn't want to leave a mess
behind in New York. Negotiations stopped. It's get it up or get out.

The Dark Past of the World Trade Center

An equally dark history shadows the old World Trade Center. In a brilliant
article "The Process of Creating a Ruin," from Business Week, there's an excerpt
from Eric Darton's book Divided We Stand. The excerpt is called, "What the Twin
Trade Towers Stood For." In it, Darton describes the difficulties of the World
Trade Center after the first bombing in 1993, a story in and of itself. In fact,
I've always been amazed that the immense blast happened at 12:18 local time in
the Secret Service's section of the car park under New York's tallest. That
aside, Darton says . . .

"From an economic standpoint, the trade center -- subsidized since its inception
-- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the
rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. And in the thirty years since it was
built, the social forces of which it remains so highly visible an artifact have
definitively realigned."

Darton goes on to say that the WTC in 1993 at 20 years old had really just begun
cranking out enough income to meet the ongoing losses the Port of Authority
incurred to run the PATH commuter line. WTC office space had topped out
price-wise. A new generation of cyber-smart buildings, with bigger built-in
electrical capacity, had quietly surpassed it.

Also, with the bombing came a $700 million hit for repairs. But the Port
Authority, unlike a commercial landlord, did have a $2.6 billion annual budget
and the right to generate cash through bonds, tolls, fares, and airport tariffs.
The PA could afford to rebuild the WTC and do needed renovations. But then
there's another assault on the institution's integrity. Darton points out that,
in the 1990s, "Privatization emerged as one of the key political strategies of
the early Pataki, Whitman, and Giuliani administrations as they faced widening
budget gaps, shrinking federal assistance, and reduced local tax revenues.

"Imitating their corporate counterparts, they embraced the belief that
governmental functions should be reduced to a series of inexorable bottom lines.
This new standard became the basis for a sweeping reevaluation of public
agencies. They would be judged not by their objective performance level or their
contribution to the public good but according to whether their disassembled
parts might profitably be sold, merged, or eliminated.

"Discussing the disposition of the Port Authority's bus terminal, Charles
Gargano, Governor Pataki's appointee to the PA's vice chairmanship and the head
of New York State's economic development agency, put the issue succinctly when
he asked, 'Why not let private industry in to develop what is clearly an
extremely valuable property?'"

So it's the wolf howl of the free marketer, privatization. Where have I heard
that before? Don't analyze, criticize, amortize, socialize -- just privatize!
It's like the privatization model Darton describes as designed for the District
of Columbia, referring to residents and visitors as "customers," and government
duties split into "wholesale" and "retail" categories.

It's like that senior editor writing in the 1998 Wall Street Journal who urged
the Republican Party to "view itself very much like, let's say, a corporation, A
Daimler-Benz, A Chrysler . . . to change its corporate culture [and] go through
a wrenching transformation, because the cars are coming back from the lot
unsold."

In short, the World Trade Center was now a piece of meat on the free market
selling block.

And the Port of Authority stopped being a public institution designed to meet
the New York region's socio-economic needs. The PA turns into an amalgam of
assets to be cut up according to market's appetites. "Capturing" the maximum
value of each piece is based simply on "dismembering the whole." Badaboom! I can
hear them now.

WTC Needed Repair in 2001

Larry Silverstein and friends knew all this. Especially that the Towers needed
some $200 million in renovations and improvements, mostly related to removal
and/or replacement of building materials declared health hazards since the
Towers were built. WTC was labeled an "asbestos bombshell."

In fact, the Port Authority thought of WTC as a dinosaur, trying several times
to get permits to demolish the buildings for liability reasons. The PA was
turned down. The asbestos problem was no secret. The sole reason the complex was
still up till 9/11 was the cost of taking the Twin Towers down floor by floor.
Especially since the PA was prohibited by law from demolishing the buildings.
Got that? Demolishing prohibited by law but doable by an act of god or
godlessness.

Other developers had gone broke by the mandated renovations. Two hundred million
dollars were an entire year's revenue from the Trade Towers. So the 9/11
collapse of the Twin Towers was the final solution, so to speak.

The November 22, 2003, New York Times reported that under a pending agreement a
developer and his investors will get back most of the down payment that they
made to lease the World Trade Center just six weeks before a terrorist attack
destroyed the twin towers. Developer Larry Silverstein and investors Lloyd
Goldman and Joseph Cayre are nearing a deal that would give them about $98
million of their original investment of $125 million. That's a helluva refund.

September 11 reduced renovation to Ground Zero. So now Silverstein could rebuild
funded by insurance coverage that miraculously covered acts of terrorism. Filing
two claims was the capper.

But, as the CIA would say, there was a little blowback. Larry only got back the
one-hit payola, with a lot of expenses, though still considerable profit, but
obviously leaving a shortfall for the $2.3 billion tower, not to mention the $9
billion complex. But hey, that's privatization for you, the old unseen hand
scraping the skin off somebody's back for a buck, in this case Larry's. It's no
wonder he can't get it up. He's got a lot on his mind, not to mention 2,700 lost
souls.

(2) Moussaoui wore 'stun belt' for new testimony

Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:41:42 +0100 From: Rowan Berkeley
<rowan.berkeley@googlemail.com>

MSNBC VIDEO: Moussaoui wore 'stun belt' for new testimony

Prison Planet, March 28, 2006
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/280306_b_belt.htm

If you're looking for a reason why Zacarias Moussaoui suddenly testified today
to a version of the 9/11 plotline that sounds more like the Official story than
even the official Whitewash Commission report, this video* may have the answer.
In it, NBC news reporter Pete Williams lets slip that Moussaoui is wearing a
"Stun belt" underneath his clothing controlled by US Marshals. MSNBC host Dan
Abrams gets some more details on the stun belt. A taste of the exchange:

WILLIAMS: The old outbursts were gone... He was very docile today... We believe
that he's wearing one of those stun belts, and it may be that he was very
worried about doing anything that would cause those Marshals to press the
button....

ABRAMS: A stun belt? They literally have something around his waist? That they
can push a button and?

WILLIAMS: [Pause] Well...

Only in 21st-century Amerika!

* http://total911.info/zacmstun.wmv

(3) 911 & the dancin' israelis eg:
http://www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.htm

Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:20:48 -0800 (PST) From: William Purcell
<bhimarama@yahoo.com>

IT IS EVERYONE'S duty TO VIEW THIS FILM!

www.loosechange911.com

www.Physics911.net

www.ReOpen911.org

www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.html

http://www.st911.org/

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

THE DANCINGISRAELIS -

- then that right there is PROOF that it was MOSSAD who was BEHIND the whole
thing ! --------------- (excerpt from :
http://www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.htm) THE DANCING ISRAELIS
==================================================================================

>> But bin Laden himself strongly denied any role in the 9-11 attacks, and he
suggested the attacks were orchestrated by Zionists. The BBC published bin
Laden's statement of denial in which he said:

"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I
have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government
within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators
of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present
century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret
government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American
system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not
the United States." (25)

You never heard that quote on your nightly newscast in the USA did you? <<

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
was asked what the attack would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply
was: "It's very good...Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate
sympathy (for Israel)"

The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

As the world watched in disbelief and asked the question...

...Mossad operatives were seen dancing with joy.

A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.
The men set up cameras by the Hudson River and trained them on the twin towers.
(1)

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming
"middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts
of joy and mockery. (2)

"They were like happy, you know . They didn't look shocked to me" said a
witness. (3)

[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World
Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in
front of the wreckage. (4)

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial
impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in
Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives
in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)

"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was
going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (7)

One anonymous phone call to the authorities actually led them to close down all
of New York's bridges and tunnels. The mystery caller told the 9-1-1 dispatcher
that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van headed for
the Holland Tunnel. Here's the transcript from NBC News: Dispatcher: Jersey City
police. Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like
Palestinians and going around a building. Caller: There's a minivan heading
toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and
he has those sheikh uniform. Dispatcher: He has what? Caller: He's dressed like
an Arab. (8)

(*Writer's note: Why would this mystery caller specifically say that these
"Arabs" were Palestinians? How would he know that?Palestinians usually dress in
western style clothes, not "sheikh uniforms")

Based on that phone call, police then issued a "Be-on-the-Lookout" alert for a
white mini-van heading for the city's bridges and tunnels from New Jersey. When
a van fitting that exact description was stopped just before crossing into New
York, the suspicious "middle-easterners" were apprehended. Imagine the surprise
of the police officers when these terror suspects turned out to be Israelis!
According to ABC's 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was
stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:

"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The
Palestinians are your problem."(9)

Why did he feel that Palestinians were a problem for the NYPD? The police and
FBI field agents became very suspicious when they found maps of the city with
certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers
supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police
also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and
that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives. (10)

The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg
flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently
celebratory gesture. (11)

The Jerusalem Post later reported that a white van with a bomb was stopped as it
approached the George Washington Bridge, but the ethnicity of the suspects was
not revealed. Here's what the Jerusalem Post reported on September 12, 2001:
American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington
Bridge. The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the
bridge. Authorities suspect the terrorists intended to blow up the main crossing
between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported. (12)

TCM Breaking News reported that the van was laden down with tonnes of explosives
(13). What's really intriguing is that ABC's 20/20 (14), the New York Post (15),
and the New Jersey Bergen Record (16) all clearly and unambiguously reported
that a white van with Israelis was intercepted on a ramp near Route 3, which
leads directly to the Lincoln Tunnel.

But the Jerusalem Post, Israeli National News (Arutz Sheva) (17), and Yediot
America (18), all reported, just as clearly and unambiguously, that a white van
with Israelis was stopped on a ramp leading to the George Washington Bridge,
which is several miles north of the Lincoln Tunnel.

It appears as if there may actually have been two white vans involved, one
stopped on each crossing. This would not only explain the conflicting reports as
to the actual location of the arrests, but would also explain how so many
credible eye-witnesses all saw celebrating "middle-easterners" in a white van in
so many different locations. It also explains why the New York Post and Steve
Gordon (lawyer for the 5 Israelis) originally described how three Israelis were
arrested but later increased the total to five.

Perhaps one van was meant to drop off a bomb while the other was meant to pick
up the first set of drivers while re-crossing back into New Jersey? If a van was
to be used as a parked time-bomb on the GW Bridge, then certainly the drivers
would need to have a "get-away van" to pick them up and escape. And notice how
the van (or vans) stayed away from the third major crossing -the Holland Tunnel-
which was where the police had originally been directed to by that
anti-Palestinian 9-1-1 "mystery caller". A classic misdirection play.

From there, the story gets becomes even more suspicious. The Israelis worked for
a Weehawken moving company known as Urban Moving Systems. An American employee
of Urban Moving Systems told the The Record of New Jersey that a majority of his
co-workers were Israelis and they were joking about the attacks. The employee,
who declined to give his name said: "I was in tears. These guys were joking and
that bothered me. These guys were like, "Now America knows what we go through."
(19)

A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System's Israeli owner, Dominick
Suter, dropped his business and fled the country for Israel. He was in such a
hurry to flee America that some of Urban Moving System's customers were left
with their furniture stranded in storage facilities (20). It was later confirmed
that the five detained Israelis were in fact Mossad agents (21). They were held
in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. Some of the movers had
been kept in solitary confinement for 40 days. (22)

[S]everal of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli
talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were
laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are
coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document
the event." (23)

How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11? It doesn't take
Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents -
here's the most logical scenario:

1. The Israeli "movers" cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful
accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.

2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report
Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.

3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli
bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop
off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices.

4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALL bridges
and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils
the Israelis' misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day
torture.

5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs
for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The
Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now
claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same
dragnet as many other Arabs.

6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department "higher-ups" are able to
gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly.

Osama bin Laden was immediately blamed for the 9-11 attacks even though he had
no record of doing anything on this scale. Immediately after the Flight 11 hit
WTC 1 CIA Director George Tenet said "You know, this has bin Laden's
fingerprints all over it." (24)

The compliant mainstream media completely ignored the Israeli connection.
Immediately following the 9-11 attacks the media was filled with stories linking
the attacks to bin Laden. TV talking-heads, "experts", and scribblers of every
stripe spoon-fed a gullible American public a steady diet of the most outrageous
propaganda imaginable. We were told that the reason bin Laden attacked the USA
was because he hates our "freedom" and "democracy". The Muslims were "medieval"
and they wanted to destroy us because they envied our wealth, were still bitter
about the Crusades, and were offended by Britney Spears shaking her tits and ass
all over the place! But bin Laden strongly denied any role in the 9-11 attacks,
and he suggested the attacks were orchestrated by Zionists. The BBC published
bin Laden's statement of denial in which he said:

"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I
have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government
within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators
of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present
century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret
government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American
system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not
the United States." (25)

You never heard that quote on your nightly newscast did you? [A] number of
intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden's
capabilities. "This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he's running this
operation?" one C.I.A. official asked. "It's so huge. He couldn't have done it
alone." A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other
documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States a major
foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. (26)

To date, the only shred of "evidence" to be uncovered against bin Laden is a
barely audible fuzzy amateur video that the Pentagon just happened to find
"lying around" in Afghanistan. How very convenient, and how very fake. (27)
There is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda
"terrorist network" to these acts of terror, but there is a mountain of
evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that Zionists have been
very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.

One last thing - at 09:40 a.m. on 9-11 it was reported that the Democratic Front
for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attacks (28).
This claim was immediately denied by the DFLP leader Qais abu Leila who said it
had always opposed "terror attacks on civilian targets, especially outside the
occupied territories." (29) 9/11 CNN streamed RealVideo item mentioning a
Palestinian claim of responsibility

Why would a Palestinian organisation comprising of less than 500 people (30)
make the suicidal move of immediately claiming responsibility for the 9-11
attacks? Sharon and the other Israeli leaders aspire to fulfill what the goals
of the political Zionist movement have been since its origin a century ago: to
turn all of historic Palestine into an exclusively Jewish state. A central tenet
of the Zionist ideology is expressed in the racist slogan, "A land without
people for a people without a land." (31)

The implication of Palestinians in the 9-11 attacks would have handed Zionists a
golden opportunity to achieve the above because all Palestinians would have been
labelled terrorists.

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about
evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." US official
quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war" Motto of the Mossad

(4) Refuting the Demolition Debunkers, by Morgan Reynolds

Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:10:59 +1000 From: news-report-owner@wiretapped.net
Reply-To: nbaird@goanna.net.au

Refuting the Demolition Debunkers

Dr. Morgan Reynolds March 25, 2006

Curriculum Vitae for Dr. Morgan Reynolds

Morgan O. Reynolds, Ph.D., currently is Professor emeritus, economics, Texas A&M
University, College Station, Texas. He is a former Chief Economist at the U.S.
Department of Labor 2001-2002, and he also served as the Director of the
Criminal Justice Center and Senior Fellow at the National Center for Policy
Analysis, headquartered in Dallas, Texas.

At the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 internal explosives demolished
three skyscrapers:: WTC1 (north tower), WTC 2 (south tower) and WTC7, a 47-story
steel-framed tower that was not hit by an airplane. Thanks to tireless
researchers and the internet, knowledge of these demolitions is spreading
rapidly throughout the United States and world. This is not good news to the
perpetrators of the 9/11 hoax, so it is predictable that new websites pop up to
slow the spread of the truth. The idea is to confuse the issue and offer succor
to the innocents clinging to the official story about "very sharp box cutters,"
"very hot fires," "very floppy pancake collapses," and other fantasies
propagated by government and its paid-for allies in the academy and media.

An attempt to refute the fact that the towers fell due to controlled demolition,
with plane impacts as cover for two of the three buildings, is
http://911hypothesis.blogspot.com/, originally posted here on Wednesday,
February 15, 2006. Michiel Brumsen asserts below that he is merely trying to
strengthen his belief in WTC demolition by trying his best to refute it. Below
we reproduce the original "refutation" article with separate refutations of it
by Morgan Reynolds and Rick Rajter, along with a rebuttal by Michiel Brumsen of
911hypothesis.blogspot.com. Morgan Reynolds, a Ph.D. economist affiliated with
physics911.net and st911.org, is the author of a well-known article of June 9,
2005, on the collapses here and his new 9/11 article is here. Rick Rajter, a
graduate student @ MIT in Materials Science and Engineering, adds further
comments.

The original article is in black text. In each section Morgan Reynolds' comments
are first, Rick Rajter's second, and Michiel Brumsen's rebuttals third if
available. We hope this acts as an educational resource for those debating the
events of 9/11. The article with commentary by Reynolds and Rajter has been
submitted to physics911.net for review. Update Time for an update on the
refutation of the controlled demolition hypothesis. My endeavours have been most
instructive; most people apparently either think that you're a nutter promoting
conspiracy theories, or somebody working for the CIA or such and trying to cover
it all up, depending on which camp they belong themselves. Oh dear: what has
happened to dispassionate but thorough scientific questioning?

In my previous post I cited four important anomalies; evidence that in the
official story it seems hard to account for, but which would support the
controlled demolition hypothesis. I'll run by them again.

1) speed of collapse near free fall.

Reynolds: Which building is under discussion? WTC1, WTC2 or WTC7?

Brumsen: From other entries in the blog it should have been obvious that I was
referring to WTC1 and WTC2.

Reynolds: Since none is specified, I begin with WTC7 because it is an impossible
problem for apologists of the official pancake theory. It is undisputed that no
plane hit WTC7, WTC landlord Larry Silverstein told a FDNY commander to "pull
it" the afternoon of September 11, and building 7 fell symmetrically into a neat
debris stack in under 7 seconds at about 5:20p, all recorded on multiple video
tapes. WTC7 was a textbook demolition. Nobody has put forward an alternative to
demolition to explain the tidy collapse of 7. Since there were only two small
fires on floors 7 and 12, the alternative theory must be that those devious Arab
terrorists possess a radical new technology that can neatly implode a
steel-framed, 47-story skyscraper in its own footprint with just a few small
fires. Controlled Demolition Inc., the industry leader, would love to acquire
this secret, superior and cheap campfire technique to replace painstaking study
of a building and laborious planting of many pounds of explosives at key points
throughout each building. Perhaps we should watch the Wall St. Journal for news
of the pending CDI-al Qaeda merger.

Rajter: Agreed. The commission report http://www.9-11commission.gov/ doesn't
mention 7 falling, FEMA claims "the best hypothesis has only a low probability
of occurrence" http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/WTC_ch5.htm and
the NIST team has delayed its report on 7 because of the difficulty in creating
a plausible non-demolition theory.

I have come across an excellent paper by F.R. Greening, which is a bit hard
going for those without a background in the exact sciences, but very rewarding.
He performs an energy analysis of the collapse of WTC1 and 2. It enables him to
show that the NIST report about the collapse were way off; that the finite
elements computer models used there were very inaccurate.

More to the point, he shows that if pancaking was the way in which they
collapsed - regardless of the cause of the collapse - one would expect the
collapse to be only slightly slower than free fall.

Reynolds: "If pancaking was the way in which they collapsed?" I guess I read
that right but the premise is absurd.

Brumsen: I am being careful here not to pronounce myself on the truth of the
premise. I am merely explaining that the actually observed time of fall would,
according to Greening, have been consistent with pancaking.

Reynolds: Pancaking is the result to be proved, not a premise. The NIST avoided
modeling the official "progressive pancake collapse" theory for the embarrassing
reason that such a model would conflict with all the data, especially
near-free-fall-speed in all three skyscraper collapses, a signature of
demolition. The NIST failure to model and support pancaking signifies "the
collapse of the pancake theory," as A.K. Dewdney says. "[N]o video of either of
the WTC collapses shows any sign of stutter between floor collapses," writes
physicist Derrick Grimmer, "which should have been very apparent especially in
the first few floors of collapse when the speed of gravitational collapse was
small" http://physics911.net/thermite.htm.

All videos and pictures of the collapses show each tower demolished by internal
explosives, blown to kingdom come because these were no ordinary demolitions
where gravity does most of the work. They were a "show," a shock and awe display
to manipulate a gullible public. We have abundant photographic evidence of
confluent rows of explosions going off, as well as isolated squibs. Probably
hundreds of eyewitnesses, both professionals and laypersons alike, have
testified to explosions they saw and heard. Only demolition can account for
facts like steel beams hurtled horizontally hundreds of feet through the air,
all concrete pulverized into extremely fine dust, pools of melted steel at the
base of each building, and destruction so total that none of the massive core
remained sticking hundreds of feet into the air. Pancaking explains none of
these facts, demolition all of them.

Rajter: The following illustrates the main problems with the Greening model:

Rajter: The model makes the critical assumption that the floors get hit and
offer no resistance beyond a conservation of momentum calculation. This explains
why NIST refused to model collapse after failure began because the agency could
not make the no-resistance between floors assumption. In other words, a finite
difference model would be far more realistic. The upshot is that the Greening
model is highly relevant for modeling a controlled demolition where substantial
resistance from lower floors is absent! Bombs eliminated resistance by removing
lower floors and columns. For this he has to estimate the energy needed to crush
the supports of one floor in order to make it collapse onto the next; but
interestingly (if he is right, which I think he is) even if the energy needed
for crushing one floor's supports would be up to three times more than his best
estimate, the collapse time actually observed can still be accounted for.

(Figure copied from FR Greening, Energy transfer in the WTC collapse, p.16)

Reynolds: Most readers must embrace such calculations on faith because they are
not qualified to evaluate them. More in accord with common sense (sound
scientific calculations are nothing more than refined common sense), the
enormous pyroclastic dust cloud from each tower's destruction required
tremendous energy, at least ten times the potential energy available from a
tower's elevated mass due to gravity. See
http://911research.wtc7.net/papers/dustvolume/volume.html. This phenomenon alone
renders the pancake theory nonsense. A gravity-driven collapse cannot generate
the energy to explain the physical events observed on September 11 in lower
Manhattan.

Another site which attemps (or pretends?) to calculate falling time is found
here. It draws the conclusion that the collapse should have been much slower,
but makes the mistake of thinking that the falling speed would be reduced to
zero every time a new floor is hit. In support of this, high school experiments
of elastic collisions are referred to. But that must be wrong: obviously, in
pancaking, we would have had inelastic collisions. The concrete falling down
would have slowed down slightly on each impact, but accelerated more on the
spaces between the floors. This yields Greenings result.

Reynolds: Slowed down slightly on each impact, it says. Baloney. The towers were
hell-strong, with redundancy of 500% minimum, probably more like 1,000% in the
lightly loaded towers on September 11.

Brumsen: I think redundancy is in such a case usually defined as how many times
stronger the maximum resistant force of the construction is than the forces
exerted by gravity - under static conditions. What does this imply for the
resistance offered by the structure relative to the force of a huge block of
floors that has accelerated approximately two meters, which is the assumption
made when saying that the collapse started with the failing of one floor's
supports? No idea.

Reynolds: Go here to begin exploration of how strong the towers were:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html

Rajter: Also, see my pictures above. The Greening model cited shows
near-free-fall behavior and although simple and beautiful, it really models
demolition more than a pancake collapse. It applies if we are talking about flat
plates hovering in the air.

Conclusion: this particular piece of evidence cannot show that the supports for
each floor were compromised before being hit by the floors above it. Therefore
it cannot vindicate the controlled demolition hypothesis. Neither, though, can
Greenings results falsify it.

Reynolds: What? "This particular piece of evidence" refers to what?

Brumsen: It refers to the observed speed of collapse, namely: near freefall. I
am afraid that therefore most of the following passage is irrelevant.

Reynolds: Greenings' model? That is not evidence. A black box model based on bad
assumptions and parameters cannot show anything empirically convincing. GIGO
(garbage in, garbage out). So it is resort to authority, belief in the master
and similar nonsense. A maximum of 13% of the perimeter columns were fragmented
(broken) high up in the North Tower and a smaller fraction in the South Tower.
The towers were stable, silent and motionless after the initial hits.

The reason so many brave men of the FDNY died was because they knew the towers
were so stout that no aluminum Boeing could possibly threaten their stability. A
Boeing was born to be chewed by a steel tower. FDNY Battalion Chief Orio Palmer
reached the 78th floor of the South Tower and said, "We've got two isolated
pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines." Within a
few minutes the entire tower collapsed, inexplicable unless caused by "secondary
explosives" going off, and duly feared by some of the emergency personnel on
scene. The fire in the South Tower was dying. That's why the mass murderers had
to blow the "wrong tower" first, after only 56 minutes of weak fire, because the
cover story about the collapse was nearly gone. Folks, it was an inside job.

2) the presence of molten steel, pointing towards the use of thermite.

Greening also addresses this point; here. His point is that there was plenty of
aluminium; both from the plane fuselage, and the cladding of the buildings. The
fires could have melted the aluminium. And molten aluminium is extremely
reactive / explosive. Given the presence of plenty of gypsum (crumbled
wallboards) and iron, this would have given the same reactions as with the
specialist thermite explosives. Again, neither vindication nor falsification.

Reynolds: Talk about a stretch: spontaneous thermite?! Perhaps the author will
demonstrate its unassisted formation in a laboratory sometime, or even better,
in the "wild." Aluminum melts at less than half the temperature of steel and if
the fires were so bloody hot, why didn't some of the aluminum fa�ade on the WTC
towers melt? Black, sooty smoke showed that the fires were low temp and dying of
oxygen starvation. "Corus Construction Corporation performed extensive tests in
multiple countries in which they subjected steel-framed carparks, which were
uninsulated, to prolonged hydrocarbon fueled fires," writes Jim Hoffman, "and
the highest temperatures they recorded in any of the steel beams or columns was
a mere 360 degrees Celsius." That's not close to melting aluminum. For more see
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/towers/text/. A 1975 fire on the 11th floor of
the North Tower was more intense than the South Tower fire on 9/11.
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=10613.

Rajter: Actually, Professor Steven E. Jones, et. al. have recently completed
experiments in the lab, pouring liquid aluminum on top of rusty steel beams. No
thermite reaction occurred. http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ExptAlMelt.doc

Brumsen: At the time of writing, this paper had not appeared yet, and neither
had its update. I accept that the results of Jones et al make Greenings
hypothesis unlikely, however, I reject the idea that such an experiment can
provide an unassailable refutation, since one never knows whether conditions
recreated in the experiment were close enough to actual conditions in the
towers.

3) the presence of sideways squibs at collapse time, far below what could be
accounted for by free fall speeds.

This one may be simple: a shockwave caused by explosions from the molten
aluminium would have travelled down central elevator shafts much faster. BUT:
why, then, are they so localized? Why are there so few, and seemingly
symmetrical, squibs? Jury is still out on this one I think.

Reynolds: The author would do anything, it seems, to avoid the obvious and
natural explanation: internal explosives. Occam's razor counts for little
because the aim is to arrive at the predetermined result. Instead of following
the evidence where it leads, the idea is, "to fix the intelligence around the
policy," as the infamous Downing Street memo put it. The strain of this effort
is oh-so visible.

Brumsen: No. What I am doing, as I have explained to you in private, is that I
am trying to strengthen my belief in the "obvious and natural explanation" by
trying my best to refute it. Confirmation of a hypothesis is only as good as the
attempt one has made at falsifying it.

Reynolds: There was no molten aluminum traveling down central elevator shafts
reported by a witness within a tower, at least that I have heard of. Further, we
know the hydrocarbon fires did not melt aluminum because such fires in buildings
do not burn hot enough without oxygen optimization. And how can we refute a
phantom like, "Jury is still out on this one I think"? Such a soft statement
suits this era in which the jury is out forever, dithering over whether fire is
hot or ice is cold. After all, there's truth on both sides of an argument, isn't
there? No, there isn't. Reality exists, objective reality and it is one way and
one way only. Arab terrorists did not suspend the laws of physics and chemistry
on September 11, 2001.

Rajter: Non-load-bearing, steel-reinforced concrete was essentially resting on a
plate of truss-supported steel at each floor. Localized waves would cause
vibrations along the core structure. Even if pulverization occurred XX floors
below, how could it be violently ejected out of the building? This motion
requires one of two sources:

A) there was a massive gas expansion that caused the air to exit through windows
(note, the official xplanation gives no such reason for a violent gas expansion,
which could only be explained by explosives) or

B) the pulverization process itself ejected the material outward radially. Since
it would be a statistical nightmare for this to occur randomly, and since we saw
it occur in numerous locations down the building, we can rule B out. Besides,
photographs of controlled demolitions show squibs on many floors below as
columns fail. Occam's razor doesn't play favorites, and here, it slices through
this line of reasoning.

4) collapse on its own footprint: this remains very troubling.

Consider this: "Dr. Thomas Eagar, professor of materials engineering and
engineering systems at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, has stated
that the building "would have had to have tipped at least 100 feet to one side
in order to move its center of gravity from the center of the building out
beyond its base." In other words, according to him, the structure had no choice
but to fall straight down, following the path of least resistance. (From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories)"

Quite convincing, until one realizes that Eagar is begging the question. It is
reasonable to conclude from the evidence about how the buildings did collapse
that they didn't tip over at least 100 feet. But the question is: WHY did they
not? For buildings that size, it would not have been that surprising, given that
they most likely failed asymmetrically. It certainly can happen in earthquakes.
Now one should obviously be wary of analogies, but there is an important common
point here: asymmetrical failing. Furthermore, one needn't argue that the
*whole* building would have fallen out of its footprint. Would it not have been
likely that the upper blocks, above the impact, would have done so? And for one
of the towers this is what we appear to see on the footage: it tilts over
considerably, before disappearing into clouds of dust.

Why - if this is what happened, which is hard to tell - would it have
desintegrated in mid-air? Most of that upper block would not yet have been
compromised. And if it did desintegrate, this would have been a large energy
sink. Perhaps big enough to make it unlikely that the rest of the collapse would
have been self-sustaining. This particular piece of evidence needs much better
explanation to be able to uphold the official story.

Reynolds: A bit of reality peeks through this section. Approximately the top 300
feet of WTC2 tipped about 23 degrees before it was exploded to bits. The perps
screwed up-easy enough to do in a complex operation-and had to quickly blow the
upper section to smithereens before it toppled to the ground. They blasted the
rest of the structure to remove resistance from below and got the ensuing
freefall, otherwise they would have been stuck with an embarrassing "haircut" at
the top of WTC2 and no other damage. That was not the "shock and awe" effect the
regime had in mind. One of the comments to my previous post came up with a point
that causes trouble for the controlled demolition hypothesis. How could the
planes not have set off the explosives with which the buildings would have had
to be rigged, bringing them down immediately; or at any rate, disturb the
carefully planned explosion pattern, so that it would be extremely difficult to
bring the buildings down so neatly?

My first thoughts are that this is a formidable, but not unsurmountable,
challenge to the controlled demolition hypothesis. Rajter: Just as you can't
just ignite thermite with a Bic lighter, jet fuel fires cannot ignite thermite.
It takes something like a magnesium fuse to generate the activation heat as far
as I am aware. And even if SOME went off, it wasn't enough to cut down the
entire building.

To strengthen the case for controlled demolition, I will bring additional points
to attention, as mentioned by David Griffin in his excellent paper. Note that I
make a strong selection here: the strongest possible case in favour of
controlled demolition would have to rest, in my opinion, on hard physical
evidence. This excludes everything mentioning motivations, alleged stupidity,
and circumstantial evidence. (Note, of course that even if the strongest
possible case fails, the weaker case may still be sufficiently convincing, and
moreover true. It's just that for the moment I am not interested in it.)

5) Sudden onset of the collapse, instead of gradual failing as one might expect
in a steel construction;

6) Total collapse, into small pieces, rather than substantial parts of the
structures still standing;

7) Demolition rings (series of small explosions running rapidly around a

building).

Griffin adds a footnote here: "For visual evidence of this and the preceding
characteristics (except sliced steel), see Hufschmid's Painful Questions;
Hufschmid's video "Painful Deceptions" (available at www.EricHufschmid.Net); Jim
Hoffman's website (http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html); and Jeff King's
website (http://home.comcast.net/~jeffrey.king2/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html ),
especially "The World Trade Center Collapse: How Strong is the Evidence for a
Controlled Demolition?" Other 'hard' evidence cited by Griffin seem less
convincing, and I'll briefly say why:

- Sliced steel: segments in the rubble were of convenient length. However, the
construction elements originally used were of convenient length. Of course; they
had to be transported to the site in the first place! It can also be seen on
pictures of the construction.

Reynolds: Convenient length in construction is irrelevant. The WTC parts were
bolted and welded into a massive, powerful structure. Joints generally are
stronger than non-joint sections because architects, engineers and construction
personnel worry a lot about failure there. Ever heard of an oxyacetlylene torch?
At over 3,000 degrees Celsius, it's the only gas mixture that will burn hot
enough to cut steel. http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/AnthonyCheedie.shtml.
The towers were an icon, and vastly stronger than other structures because the
world spotlight was on them. It's only human nature to do your absolute best
under these circumstances. Demolition companies ask what length the customer
wants steel debris for easy transport, just like the 30 feet and under lengths
at Ground Zero. What a surprise! The ends of all the WTC steel beams look like
they were sheared off by shaped charges because shaped charges caused the
simultaneous breaks at steel joints. FEMA and Rudy Giuliani made sure none of
the beams were tested for explosive residue.

- pulverization of concrete: Greening is able to account for this, in the
excellent paper on energy transfer refferred to above under point 1.

Reynolds: Resort to authority again. The author does not explain how this
pulverization happened in layman's terms.

Brumsen: I would deny that there is an obligation to do so. Expert authority is
relevant, and some facts and explanations are counterintuitive to the lay
person.

Reynolds: Gravity cannot supply enough energy to turn an estimated 100,00 tons
of steel-reinforced concrete in each tower into talcum powder. There was
virtually no broken concrete at Ground Zero, plus no office furniture, paper,
computers, virtually nothing that you would recognize from offices at the bottom
of the "pancake collapses" because all the material but steel was exploded all
over lower Manhattan. Salvage experts marveled at how small the debris stack
was. I repeat, the towers were blown to kingdom come. The data are completely
inconsistent with the absurd "pancake" theory.

- dust clouds: idem. Remember also that there was a lot of gypsum, that would
have been pulverised.

Reynolds: Gypsum was pulverized by the pancake crusher too? Baloney. A
step-by-step accelerating pancake collapse would break gypsum up but most of it
would be plenty recognizable as gypsum at the bottom, just like broken concrete
would. But no, explosives turned gypsum and concrete alike into a pyroclastic
cloud to blot out the sun and frighten folks into a telegenic sprint for dear
life, Hollywood-blockbuster style.

- horizontal ejections: pancaking would have expelled air sideways violently -
including any objects.

Reynolds: Very forcible ejections, indeed, from air allegedly expelled sideways
solely by 12 foot collapses per floor. Tens of thousands of tons of steel were
ejected horizontally hundreds of feet. Now that takes real energy, unavailable
from mere gravity and compressed air. One bit of steel weighing a feathery
600,000 pounds, more than twice the 140-ton estimated weight of the alleged
Boeing 767, traveled an impressive 390 feet to lodge into a nearby building. How
much wind was there that day! Check it out:
http://www.gallerize.com/WINDY_TOWERS_OF_9-11_1.htm

- sounds produced by explosions: not hard evidence, in that it relies on
eyewitness accounts. Moreover, structural failings might well give
explosive-like sounds.

Reynolds: Might this be "anything to avoid the truth." Photos and videos of the
collapses show "demolition waves," meaning "confluent rows of small explosions"
along floors (blast sequences). Get any 9/11 video like Painful Deceptions or
Loose Change or visit websites like
http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/collapse%20update/. Yes, many witnesses
like the WTC hero Willie Rodriguez and FDNY personnel testified that explosions
occurred within the buildings. Physical evidence trumps eyewitness testimony but
in this instance all point to the same conclusion.

Additionally there is of course the mystery of WTC7; how could it come down,
when there was no plane impact there? However, this is of course an item
separate from discussion on WTC1 and WTC2. Or in other words: any refutation of,
or lack of vindication for, the controlled demolition hypothesis for WTC1 and
WTC2 has no logical implication for any other foul play or cover-up that may or
may not have taken place. Nor the other way around of course.

Reynolds: These were entirely separable events?

I wonder if the author even believes his own stuff. I doubt it. He's like a
defense attorney with a bad case, all the facts against him, so he floats up
anything to the jury, no matter how ridiculous, in the vain hope of snagging a
"reasonable" doubt in one or more jurors.

The only steel-framed skyscrapers in history to collapse from fires all fall on
the same day at the same location? Quite a coincidence! No sense being a
conspiracy theorist when the alternative of being a "coincidence theorist" is so
seductive based on, hmmmm, plausibility and stuff. Coincidence, yes, that's what
the WTC7 collapse was. Or maybe the building was depressed by the loss of its
neighbors, the twin towers, and fainted. Detectives hate coincidences because
they are almost never true.

Possible motives to bring down WTC7 were many, given tenants like the CIA, IRS,
SEC, Secret Service, etc., but the Office of Emergency Management for the City
of New York is the prime suspect. The perpetrators almost certainly used Mayor
Giuliani's sealed OEM "bunker" on the 23d story to conduct the tower implosions
and then had to destroy WTC7 and its evidence to cover up their crimes, just as
a run-of-the-mill murderer sets his victim's dwelling ablaze.

Rudy's "undisclosed secret location" was perfect because it had been evacuated
by around 9:30 that morning, it enabled unmolested work, provided a ringside
seat, was bullet - and bomb-resistant, had its own secure air and water supply,
and could withstand winds of 160 mph, protection from the wind blasts generated
by collapsing skyscrapers. The perps probably wanted to knock WTC7 down under
cover of the second dust cloud from the WTC1 implosion but something went wrong,
they finally fixed it and blew WTC7 late in the afternoon. Most Americans do not
even know about the WTC7 collapse because the government's echo chamber, the
phony "free" and independent media, remains silent about it to this day.

Thank you for thinking along with me.

Reynolds: You're WELCOME, Michiel. Our main conclusion is that the Greening
model supports demolition, not your conclusion,

Brumsen: I believe it supports neither, but does at least give potential
explanations how some evidence might be consistent with the official story, and
should therefore not be used as argument by 9/11 truth seekers.

Reynolds: but here are some additional questions to think about: why did
officials lie, fabricate evidence, destroy evidence and resist and manipulate
independent investigations after 9/11? Allow me to suggest an obvious answer:
because they wanted to cover up their crimes. And who benefited from 9/11, and
therefore who had motive? Who had the means to pull it off? Who had opportunity?
Selected elements at the top of the U.S. government, aided by certain outsiders,
that's who. Brumsen: I agree. However, motive nor opportunity imply action. It
does imply the obligation to investigate very scrupulously whether this motive
was in fact acted upon. No official investigation has done this, but I believe
that it should be done.

Reynolds: Not only do WTC demolitions shout who did 9/11, the perpetrators' lies
and behavior blare it loud and clear daily.

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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:55:31 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Jewhuggers -- those who insist against all evidence that there were Jews at the WTC on 9-11

Mossad operatives dancing for joy at 9-11 WTC would not have been so happy unless they knew there were no Jews in there.

Now spend the next day or two thinking through all of the implications of that fact.

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
http://bedoper.com/eastman

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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:12:28 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: red pill -- Elliot Cohen (Washington Post) "Yes, It's Anti-Semitic" - Debunking The Mearsheimer-Walt "Israel Lobby" Fables

Yes, It's Anti-Semitic

By Eliot A. Cohen
Wednesday, April 5, 2006; A23

Academic papers posted on a Harvard Web site don't normally attract
enthusiastic praise from prominent white supremacists. But John
Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt's "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign
Policy" has won David Duke's endorsement as "a modern Declaration of
American Independence" and a vindication of the ex-Klansman's earlier
work, presumably including his pathbreaking book, "Jewish Supremacism."

Walt and Mearsheimer contend that American national security dictates
distancing ourselves from the state of Israel; that U.S. support for
Israel has led to such disasters as America's status as the No. 1 target
for Islamic terrorists; and that such an otherwise inexplicable
departure from good sense can be accounted for only by the power of "The
Lobby" (their capitalization), an overwhelmingly Jewish force abetted by
some Christian evangelicals and a gentile neocon collaborator or two,
who have hijacked American foreign policy and controlled it for decades.

One of Mearsheimer's University of Chicago colleagues has characterized
this as "piss-poor, monocausal social science." It is indeed a wretched
piece of scholarship. Israeli citizenship rests "on the principle of
blood kinship," it says, and yet the country has a million non-Jewish
citizens who vote. Osama bin Laden's grievance with the United States
begins with Israel, it says -- but in fact his 1998 fatwa declaring war
against this country began by denouncing the U.S. presence in Saudi
Arabia and the suffering of the people of Iraq. "Other ethnic lobbies
can only dream of having the political muscle" The Lobby has -- news to
anyone advocating lifting the embargo on Fidel Castro's Cuba. The Iraq
war stemmed from The Lobby's conception of Israel's interest -- yet,
oddly, the war attracted the support of anti-Israel intellectuals such
as Christopher Hitchens and mainstream publications such as The
Economist. America's anti-Iran policy reflects the dictates of The Lobby
-- but how to explain Europe's equally strong opposition to Iranian
nuclear ambitions?

Oddly, these international relations realists -- who in their more
normal academic lives declare that state interests determine policy, and
domestic politics matters little -- have discovered the one case in
which domestic politics has, for decades, determined the policy of the
world's greatest state. Their theories proclaim the importance of power,
not ideals, yet they abhor the thought of allying with the strongest
military and most vibrant economy in the Middle East. Reporting
persecution, they have declared that they could not publish their work
in the United States, but they have neglected to name the academic
journals that turned them down.

Inept, even kooky academic work, then, but is it anti-Semitic? If by
anti-Semitism one means obsessive and irrationally hostile beliefs about
Jews; if one accuses them of disloyalty, subversion or treachery, of
having occult powers and of participating in secret combinations that
manipulate institutions and governments; if one systematically selects
everything unfair, ugly or wrong about Jews as individuals or a group
and equally systematically suppresses any exculpatory information --
why, yes, this paper is anti-Semitic.

Mearsheimer and Walt conceive of The Lobby as a conspiracy between the
Washington Times and the New York Times, the Democratic-leaning
Brookings Institution and Republican-leaning American Enterprise
Institute, architects of the Oslo accords and their most vigorous
opponents. In this world Douglas Feith manipulates Don Rumsfeld, and
Dick Cheney takes orders from Richard Perle. They dwell on public
figures with Jewish names and take repeated shots at conservative
Christians (acceptable subjects for prejudice in intellectual circles),
but they never ask why a Sen. John McCain today or, in earlier years, a
rough-hewn labor leader such as George Meany declared themselves friends
of Israel.

The authors dismiss or ignore past Arab threats to exterminate Israel,
as well as the sewer of anti-Semitic literature that pollutes public
discourse in the Arab world today. The most recent calls by Iran's
fanatical -- and nuclear weapons-hungry -- president for Israel to be
"wiped off the map" they brush aside as insignificant. There is nothing
here about the millions of dollars that Saudi Arabia has poured into
lobbying and academic institutions, or the wealth of Islamic studies
programs on American campuses, though they note with suspicion some 130
Jewish studies programs on those campuses. West Bank settlements get
attention; terrorist butchery of civilians on buses or in shopping malls
does not. To dispute their view of Israel is not to differ about policy
but to act as a foreign agent.

If this sounds personal, it is, although I am only a footnote target for
Mearsheimer and Walt. I am a public intellectual and a proud Jew;
sympathetic to Israel and extensively engaged in our nation's military
affairs; vaguely conservative and occasionally hawkish. In a week my
family will celebrate Passover with my oldest son -- the third
generation to serve as an officer in the United States Army. He will be
home on leave from the bomb-strewn streets of Baghdad. The patch on his
shoulder is the same flag that flies on my porch.

Other supposed members of "The Lobby" also have children in military
service. Impugning their patriotism or mine is not scholarship or policy
advocacy. It is merely, and unforgivably, bigotry.

The writer is a professor at Johns Hopkins University's School of
Advanced International Studies.

� 2006 The Washington Post Company

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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 23:07:05 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Joni Ferris nails self-important Jew hater Dick Eastman (must read)

----- Original Message -----
From: Joni Ferris
To: Conspiracy-Theory@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Conspiracy-Theory] Jewhuggers -- those who insist against all evidence that there were Jews at the WTC on 9-11

We all know that the Palestinians and other Muslims who hate America were dancing for joy - so they then spread disinfo that "Jews" were - IT IS ONLY DISINFO, and Dick Eastman who hates JEWS NOT the Mossad, or Israel , but JEWS he hates will spread MORE of the Palestinian propaganda, since he believes that helping the Palestinians with their hatred will further his agenda against the JEWS.

BTW, I made his type a normal size, he purposely enlarged the type to "make himself important".
Now you can see the real post in normal size below of Jew hater Dick Eastman.

-- Joni

Mossad operatives dancing for joy at 9-11 WTC would not have been so happy unless they knew there were no Jews in there.

Now spend the next day or two thinking through all of the implications of that fact.

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
http://bedoper.com/eastman

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But Joni, the 9-11 Laughing Israelis were later on Israeli radio telling why there were there! Nothing has been better established. They were captured on their own video.

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington

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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:29:06 -0400
From: ranger116@webtv.net
Subject: New Poll - Should Bush Be In Jail ? Please Vote Today 85% Yes ! (;^))

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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 00:02:39 -0700
From: APFN <apfn@apfn.org>
Subject: 9/11 LIES: Important Website about the alleged B757 crash!

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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:16:53 -0700
From: APFN <apfn@apfn.org>
Subject: Washington Insiders Make Billions from the War on Terrorism

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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 02:26:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sample Letter on preventing internet censorship

Sample Letter on preventing internet censorship

Dear Congressman:

I am writing to you to request your assistance in preventing internet censorship. Please cut funds to every agency which engages in censorship of the internet, and block any legislation which would allow any type of internet censorship.

The excuses for censorship of the internet are quite different from what is actually being done. We are told that the goal is to prevent spam, pornography, fraud, sexual predation, and terrorism etc.

With the news of a Department of Homeland Security official having been arrested for internet solicitation of a minor, the idea of allowing DHS to censor the internet under the guise of preventing such activity is a little like sending the fox to guard the henhouse.

Anyone can test internet censorship for themselves, if they have one example of a censored message. There are certain email messages (most of which are critical of internet censorship, the Department of Homeland Security, or of violations of civil liberties) which will CONSISTENTLY be treated as spam, and blocked from normal delivery.

"Filters" are being installed by individual internet service providers.
The censorship is NOT private.
These filters are being installed as a result of GOVERNMENT PRESSURE.
The Internet Service Provider is now being told that they are now regulated by the Federal Communications Commission;
which in turn, receives guidelines from the
Department of Homeland Security.
The protocols for these "filters" were developed from guidelines from The Department of Homeland Security.

OF COURSE there is no legitimate
justification for Federal Communications Commission regulation of the
internet; since it does not use shared air ways.
The summation of all of this is clandestine censorship of the internet.
The ISP's are being FORCED to install the Department of Homeland Security's "filter", web pages are being shut done, and search engines are being required to limit certain types of searches.


These programs are purported to stop spam, but it truth, is used to halt political dissent.

One such program is called the �Captcha Project at Carnegie Mellon University. The program is installed on the Yahoo main email server. It is my belief that funds for the program may be budgeted through the FCC, now under the Department of Homeland Security. Certain specific messages as described above, are stopped from normal delivery by this program regardless of whether the message is sent to one individual, several email addresses, or to a group, which would clearly indicate that the program is not about spam, but is a sinister form of political censorship.

Please do not allow our first amendment rights to be taken from us in the name of security. Again, please cut funds to all censorship of the internets (such as the Captcha Project at Carnegie Mellon University), and block any attempt at internet censorship.


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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:26:11 -0700
From: John Leonard <jpleonard@verizon.net>
Subject: 9/11 in Media - WorldCrisis Radio - Shareholder protests insurance coverup

High-Profile 9/11 Expert Guests Scheduled on
Webster Tarpley's World Crisis Radio Show;
Webster is Guest on Zeph Report 10:30 a.m. - 12 noon EDT Today

Whistleblowers David Shayler and Annie Machon,
Prof. Jim Fetzer, author Thierry Meyssan, and
activist Gabriel Day to speak on Tarpley's show.

Washington, DC (PRWEB) April 7, 2006 -- Webster
Tarpley will be on the Zeph Report again,
http://www.zephnet.com, this morning from 10:30 to 12.

His s latest show on MNN, Manhattan Neighborhood
Network, will be aired next week.

Mr. Tarpley is author of the best-selling -- and
most radical -- 9/11 book of 2006, 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA.

He will be speaking at events in Takoma Park,
Maryland on April 24th and in Burlington,
Vermont, in the Ira Allen Hall, on April 27th at
7 p.m. Further details will be posted at his
publisher's website, www.progressivepress.com.

Tarpley's own talk radio show, World Crisis
Radio, is having the following upcoming guests this month:

Saturday April 8: David Shayler and Annie Machon,
MI-5 whistleblowers, authors of Spies, Lies, and Whistleblowers.

Saturday April 15: Prof. Jim Fetzer,
distinguished philosopher and co-founder, Scholars for 9/11 Truth.

Saturday, April 22: Thierry Meyssan, pioneering
9/11 researcher, author of 9/11: The Big Lie,
Pentagate, and of a forthcoming new book on the
role of the followers of neocon guru Leo Strauss
in US politics since 1975; President of R�seau Voltaire.

Saturday, May 6: Gabriel Day, 911truth, organizer
of the upcoming conference 9/11: Revealing the
Truth, Reclaiming Our Future, Chicago, Illinois, June 2-4th, 2006.

All shows 4-6 PM Eastern Daylight Time on RBNLive

In a related development, Tarpley's publisher,
John Leonard, has filed a shareholder's motion to
the April 19th General Meeting of re-insurance
giant Munich Re, which is paying a large part of
the insurance claims by Larry Silverstein for the
destruction of the World Trade Center on 9/11.

Leonard is faulting Munich Re directors for
failure to investigate widely publicized
suspicions of corruption, criminality and
multi-billion-dollar insurance fraud on 9/11. His
counter-motion may be read at
http://munichre.com/assets/pdf/agm/2006/countermotions_en.pdf?rid=1

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