Wednesday, April 05, 2006

[september_eleven_vreeland] Digest Number 1335

There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. audio - Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
From: "smacko" <smacko9@comcast.net>
2. Mayan Priests Purify Bush's "Demons & Evil" on Mexico Visit During Bu
From: ranger116@webtv.net
3. " U.S. to create a bird flu virus mutation "
From: w r <three_judges@yahoo.com>
4. clg : "Defence secretary calls for Geneva conventions to be redrawn (UK) "
From: w r <three_judges@yahoo.com>
5. Money doesn't talk
From: "norgesen" <norgeson@hotmail.com>
6. Fool me once
From: "norgesen" <norgeson@hotmail.com>
7. Springtime for Atta
From: "norgesen" <norgeson@hotmail.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:03:32 -0700
From: "smacko" <smacko9@comcast.net>
Subject: audio - Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect

Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
April 4, 2006 - The former head of the Star Wars missile defense program under Presidents Ford and Carter has gone public to say that the official version of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory and his main suspect for the architect of the attack is Vice President Dick Cheney. Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret. flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. He is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President's Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Society of Military Engineers Gold Medal (twice), six Air Medals, and dozens of other awards and honors. His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech. Dr. Bowman chaired 8 major international conferences, and is one of the country's foremost experts on National Security. Read More

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/april2006/040406mainsuspect.htm

Listen To Interview

http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/030406bowman.htm

www.RMBowman.com

Bowman's a candidate for Congress:

www.Bowman2006.com

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 02:00:24 -0400
From: ranger116@webtv.net
Subject: Mayan Priests Purify Bush's "Demons & Evil" on Mexico Visit During Bu

Mayan Priests Purify Bush's "Demons & Evil" on Mexico Visit

During Bush's visit to Mexico four Mayan Priests performed a
Purification Ceremony to rid Bush of "Demons and Evil" They probably
exorcised their city also.

See Below Highlighted Area

They are smarter than the U. S. Congress !
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Address:http://today.reuters.com/business/newsarticle.aspx?type=tnBusinessNews&storyID=nN30290438

(Mayan purification ceremony)

By Matt Spetalnick and Adriana Barrera
CANCUN, Mexico, March 30 (Reuters) -

U.S. President George W. Bush reassured Mexican President Vicente Fox on
Thursday he was committed to getting the U.S. Congress to approve broad
immigration reforms, including a guest-worker program.
Speaking after talks with Fox in the Mexican resort of Cancun, Bush told
reporters, "I'm confident we can get a bill done." He made no prediction
on the timing of such legislation, which the U.S. Senate started
debating on Wednesday.
Bush also praised Fox for pledging to do more to police the U.S.-Mexican
border, the crossing point for most illegal immigrants entering the
United States.
"I'm committed to having a comprehensive immigration bill on my desk,
and by comprehensive I mean not only border security ... a bill that has
security enforcement in it, but a bill that has a worker permit program
in it," Bush said.
Hosting a North American summit, Fox said border security was a shared
responsibility and Mexico would do its part.
Mexicans account for more than half of the estimated 12 million illegal
immigrants in the United States.
"We want a safe border. We want it for the good of our people and also
for our relationship with the United States," Fox said.
Joining the two leaders was new Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper,
a fellow conservative who wants to improve relations with Washington
after friction during the government of his Liberal predecessor, Paul
Martin.
Despite an increase in anti-U.S. feeling in Latin America in recent
years, there were few protests in the resort, which is far from major
Mexican cities and too expensive for most Mexicans to stay in.

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! ! ! --> PURIFICATION CEREMONY

Four priests of the ancient Mayan religion held a purification
ceremony to rid Bush of "demons and evil" in a square in downtown
Cancun, some 10 miles (16 km) from the plush hotel strip where the
leaders met.

"We do not agree with the visit of this person. We see on television
how many people he has killed,"
Said priest Romualdo May, dipping herbs into water and sprinkling it
into the air.

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Republicans are split over whether to back Bush's call for sweeping
reforms to create a guest worker program and put several million illegal
immigrants on the path to citizenship.
Conservatives in Bush's party, normally his allies, reject that as a
form of amnesty and seek instead to erect a fence along a third of the
U.S.-Mexican border and make illegal immigration a felony. The issue has
brought out tens of thousands of mostly Hispanic protesters in major
U.S. cities.
With his job approval ratings at a low ebb, immigration is a new test of
Bush's political strength.
Fox, who has failed for five years to convince Washington to let more
Mexicans get jobs in the United States legally, is making one more push
before leaving office in December.
He said Mexico would extradite 24 drug suspects sought by U.S. law
enforcement within a few weeks as part of a new program to send cartel
members to the United States for trial.
Bush, Fox and Harper toured hot, dusty ruins at the Mayan archeological
site of Chichen Itza ahead of their meetings.
But the leaders climbed only a few of the 91 steps of the impressive El
Castillo pyramid.
It was a rare sightseeing detour for Bush, who usually keeps to a tight
diplomatic schedule, and raised speculation he was trying to revive a
back-slapping relationship with Fox that saw them dubbed "the two
amigos" at the start of their administrations.
Bush and Harper agreed to open talks on a long-running trade dispute
over Canadian exports of softwood lumber and the Canadian leader spoke
frankly about past diplomatic discord.
"Iraq in particular has been a source of some disagreement, some
tensions," Harper said. But he praised the role of the U.S. and British
military in the recent freeing of Canadian hostages in Iraq, saying:
"This reminds us that when the chips are down, we all come together to
support each other."
Mexicans once had high hopes for Bush, who took office promising to make
America's southern neighbor a priority but pushed the region to a back
burner after the Sept. 11 attacks.
(Additional reporting by Steve Holland, Greg Brosnan and Lorraine
Orlandi)
   
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:55:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: w r <three_judges@yahoo.com>
Subject: " U.S. to create a bird flu virus mutation "

surprise..

^

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050324-030452-8400r.htm

" U.S. to create a bird flu virus mutation "

Atlanta, GA, Mar. 24 (UPI) -- The U.S. Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention has begun a series of
experiments to see how likely the bird flu virus could
result in a human pandemic.

The six-month series of experiments seeks to simulate
the mixing and matching of genes from the H5N1 avian
flu virus that has plagued Asia and a common human flu
virus that public-health experts fear could turn avian
flu into a pandemic, the Wall Street Journal reported
Thursday.

CDC scientists inside an ultra-secure laboratory have
started swapping the genes of the H5N1 avian virus
with the genes of an H3N2 virus, the strain behind
most recent human flu outbreaks.

The goal is to substitute the eight genes of each
virus, one by one, with the eight genes from the other
virus to see which of more than 250 possible
combinations create flu viruses that could spread
easily among humans.

The work responds to fears by global public health
experts that the bird flu virus could mutate to form
one that could spawn a global outbreak of the disease.

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 23:41:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: w r <three_judges@yahoo.com>
Subject: clg : "Defence secretary calls for Geneva conventions to be redrawn (UK) "

http://www.legitgov.org/index.html#breaking_news

http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1746322,00.html

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From: "CLG News" <clg_news@legitgov.org>
Subject: " Defence secretary calls for Geneva
conventions to be redrawn " (UK)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 03:43:02 -0400

http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1746322,00.html

" International laws hinder UK troops - Reid

Defence secretary calls for Geneva conventions to be
redrawn "

Richard Norton-Taylor and Clare Dyer

Tuesday April 4, 2006 The Guardian

John Reid demanded sweeping changes to international
law yesterday to free British soldiers from the
restraints of the Geneva conventions and make it
easier for the west to mount military actions against
other states.

In his speech, the defence secretary addressed three
key issues: the treatment of prisoners, when to mount
a pre-emptive strikes, and when to intervene to stop a
humanitarian crisis. In all these areas, he indicated
that the UK and west was being hamstrung by existing
inadequate law.

Mr Reid indicated he believed existing rules,
including some of the conventions - a bedrock of
international law - were out of date and inadequate to
deal with the threat of international terrorists.

"We are finding an enemy which obeys no rules
whatsoever", he said, referring to what he called
"barbaric terrorism".

The conventions, he said, were created more than half
century ago "when the world was almost
unrecognisable". They dealt with how the sick and
injured and how prisoners of war were treated, "and
the obligations on states during their military
occupation of another state", he said.

Given the big changes undertaken by the military over
the past 50 years, he added, "serious questions" must
be asked about whether "further changes in
international law in this area are necessary".

Mr Reid declined to say whether he had come round to
the US view that detainees at Guantánamo bay should
not be allowed the protection of the conventions or
the courts. Similarly, he would not say if he thought
Britain should support the US practice of
extraordinary rendition, the transferring of prisoners
to secret camps where they risk being tortured.
However, he said, it was not "sufficient just to say
[Guantánamo] is wrong".

Mr Reid said yesterday that while domestic laws had
been introduced to deal with new threats - he referred
to the new offence of "glorifying terrorism" -
international law had not changed.

He also spoke of the "concept of imminence" - the
circumstances when a state could strike without
waiting for an attack.

It was a principal issue during the debate over the
invasion of Iraq and has clear implications for any
possible future action against Iran.

Mr Reid noted that last year Lord Goldsmith, the
attorney general, advised that force could be used
only against imminent attack, that it must only be
used as a last resort, and that it must be
proportionate.

"But what if another threat develops?", Mr Reid asked.
"Not al-Qaida. Not Muslim extremism. Something none of
us are thinking about at the moment." Terrorist groups
were trying to acquire weapons of mass destruction, he
said.

The Liberal Democrat defence spokesman, Nick Harvey,
said: "After the disaster of Iraq, the idea that the
doctrine of pre-emptive strike should be expanded will
be met with incredulity in the west and alarm in the
ministries of Tehran."

Sir Adam Roberts, professor of international relations
at Oxford University, said: "Some of the biggest
coalition problems in both Afghanistan and Iraq have
come from failures of the coalition to observe basic
norms on certain matters, especially with regard to
treatment of prisoners.

"Dr Reid is certainly right to raise the question of
whether we need new rules in face of imminent attack.
This problem above all requires confidence in
government and coalition decision-making processes -
confidence that has sadly been undermined by Iraq."

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:36:54 -0400
From: "norgesen" <norgeson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Money doesn't talk

Tuesday, April 04, 2006
Money doesn't talk

Money doesn't talk, it swears - Bob Dylan

You want some 9/11 truth? You won't find it in the accretions of increasingly absurd conjecture and the tail-chasing diversions of no evidentiary value. The hard-ass, 9/11 truth has the colour of money and the sweet stink of opium, and plenty of both.

How's this for a headline, and from Institutional Investor, even:

Mystery N.Y. Bank Allegedly Funnels $3B In Funds To Terrorists

A bank identified only as being one of the largest and most prominent in New York has been caught allegedly funneling an estimated $3 billion in profits from drug deals and other illegal activities to Mideast terrorists, The New York Post reports. Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau, the paper says, plugged the profits pipeline as part of an ongoing investigation of suspected funds flowing through local banks.

In the most recent scheme, according to The Post, the money originating from the so-called "tri-border region" of Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay, was transferred to an account at the New York bank through a money-transfer company in Uruguay and then on to accounts in the Mideast, where they were distributed over the past two years to the likes of Al-Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah. "I can't go out and arrest Osama bin Laden," the 84-year-old Morgenthau told The Post. "But I can try to cut off his money."

"Tri-border region" sound familiar? "Chiggerbit" notes on the RI board that it's a territory in which Sun Myung Moon has recently planted his Unification flag, acquiring the land atop the Guarani aquafer. Moon's 600,000 hectares also happens to be "an enormously strategic point in both the narcotics and arms trades," according to Paraguay's former drug czar, who adds that "the available intelligence clearly shows that the Moon sect is involved in both these enterprises." And "Starroute" adds that Khalil bin Laden, Osama's brother, has business connections in the nearby Brazilian province of Minas Gerais, "an alleged center for training terrorists."

The Post today discloses the identity of the "mystery bank." And guess who:

The Manhattan DA is pursuing a settlement with the Bank of America in a major money-laundering probe of more than $3 billion that flowed from Latin America through one of the bank's accounts to Mideast fanatics, sources said yesterday.

Sources familiar with the case - reported in yesterday's Post - revealed that DA Robert Morgenthau is close to reaching a settlement with the nation's second largest bank. The bank is not being accused of complicity with money-launderers or terrorists, but is facing possible penalties for dealing with an unlicensed money transmitter from Uruguay, sources said.

The bank will be permitted to settle, like Jonathan Bush's Riggs Bank, because to find such institutions complicit would mean the Apocalypse of All Safe Assumptions. It's why September 11th's insider trading scandal, once reported by Bloomberg as "the worst case ever," was made to dry up and blow away, and the data recovery project of "dirty doomsday dealings" made on World Trade Center computers disappeared into the belly of the beast it was intended to investigate.

The money's swearing, and it's swearing at us. Over the fractious din of arguments for missile strikes, demolition and holograms, can you hear it?

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/04/money-doesnt-talk.html

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Jeff said...

Jeff, you're lumping demolition in with holograms now?

Holograms would be an example of what I called in the first paragraph "increasingly absurd conjecture," and demolition a "tail-chasing diversion."

What I mean here by diversion is what I meant a year ago when I quoted JFK assassination researcher Vincent Salandria:

I'm afraid we were misled. All the critics, myself included, were misled very early. I see that now. We spent too much time and effort microanalyzing the details of the assassination when all the time it was obvious, it was blatantly obvious that it was a conspiracy.

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Bismillah said...

Great post, Jeff, as is the earlier one you link to.

The insider-trading "investigation" was buried without military honors when the trail ended at "American institutional investors" who were allegedly above suspicion.

R.I.P.

Also sadly deceased is CONVAR's investigation of the data on the WTC hard drives. CNN reported, on Dec. 20, 2001:

"When Convar discovers encryption keys on a drive, indicating a financial record, it saves the information and hands it over to its U.S. clients, who are in turn cooperating with the FBI, he said. [Which FBI? Colleen Rowley or Dave Frasca? No prizes.]

The company has completed processing 39 drives; another 42 have arrived, and a further 20 drives are expected in early January, Wagner said.

Convar's German facility, in the town of Pirmasens near the NATO air base Ramstein, is one of the few civilian data recovery centers to be certified for military purposes as a "high security zone," the company said.
"

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/TECH/industry/12/20/wtc.harddrives.idg/

Then there's the bizarre conduct of the nation's Leaders on That Fateful Day, and the entirely-unmentionable wargames.

The corporate media have successfully killed and buried all discussion of these serious issues for the last four-and-a-half years. Now, suddenly, Charlie Sheen gets three nights on CNN to speculate to his heart's content about controlled demolition. Has CNN suddenly joined the revolution? Or are some alarm bells ringing yet?

A serious 9/11 Truth movement would be concentrating on the serious issues and trying to get this stuff properly publicised and investigated instead of spending an eternity poring over sexy photos of pyroclastic clouds.

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Jeff said...

I should refine my comment above. My issue is not with absurdity but with the distractions of unresolvable pissing matches that bring us no closer to justice. Following the money and the drugs have already uncovered smoking guns, though they're largely neglected for the Rorschach of the smoking towers.

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Kris Millegan said...
ThePistol44 said...

A quick note about the value of "sexy photos" and videos from the Pentagon and WTC collapses: it is much, much easier to introduce someone to the 9/11 Truth movement with visible evidence as opposed to discussions about insider trading and the nefarious history of the Bush/Cheney team.

For better or worse, people believe their eyes.

Yes and the octopus through several of their arms have spent so much money on uncovering how we "tick" and "what buttons to push." They know and it is accepted science that people believe what they see. That is precisely why the false meme of no-Boeing at the Pentagon has the "legs" that it does. That is the why In Plane Site and other flash propaganda pieces are being used to sell that false meme. TPTB(The Powers that Be) knew that there would be Internet head scratching about 9-11, there has even been "trial-run ops" to get the lay of the land (TWA 800). The tactics learned and developed there were then planned for and used in response to 9-11 deconstruction.
Three basic false memes were developed to hang the "hats of contention" upon; 1. No Plane at Pentagon (Effect: To divide researchers and to make 9-11 conspiracy research look "nuts" to folks within the highly charged and very "influential" DC Beltway crowd.) 2. No Planes in NY (Effect: To upset folks in NY on 911 conspiracy research{that is where a big crime occurred-jurisdiction for justice} and thoroughly disgust any survivors' family members from adding their gravitas to uncovering truths) 3. The "Jews" did it. (Effect: A blanket tainting that repells many without any perusal of the issue and allows the "official" story to label its critics as anti-semetic bigots with and agenda not facts and reasoned argument, etc.)

Then these memes help to cover up obvious conspiratorial facts leading to countles hours of blather, emotion, etc. Personally, I am sure that that there was demolition, remote controll technology and patsies involved in the op. And as with any large op, those with their noses in the right place or someone that directs them there, uses the op for their own personal purpose some maybe contrary to the ops planner. For with any action there is always possiblity. No chessmaster wins everytime. There are many editions of SunTzu, etc.

And yes has Jeff said if you follow the money follow the drugs there are smoking guns aplenty. And if you read history you even find that some of the guns have been discovered before, covered-up and then erupt again, go away again, etc.

Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.

Peace,
Kris Millegan

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:27:42 -0400
From: "norgesen" <norgeson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Fool me once

Monday, April 03, 2006
Fool me once

"O Fool! begetter of both I and Naught, resolve this Naughty Knot!"
- Aleister Crowley, The Book of Lies

I hate April 1st. I always have, but more so in recent years, because it might as well be every day now. So much news, both reported and suppressed, seems tailored to make us look like fools for believing we live in a world where such things are possible. But this is our world, or at any rate mine now: a concretization of formerly ungrounded fears into an eff-you reality that parodies what used to pass for paranoia. And since it's a truism of comedy that there are diminishing returns for satirizing a self-parody, what's to become of April 1st?

This Register story, for instance, which now carries the byline April Fool: "Bush Preps Historic Third Term - Memo." While I didn't fall for this one - a term limit serves some still necessary fictions, perhaps the most important being that real power resides in the presidency - it's not surprising that so many, apparently, did. A "draft proposal for a future Executive Order establishing a Continuity Presidency" is no more absurd than Bulldog Gannon's press credentials, or the Vice President shooting a man and joking about it afterwards.

The Register owned up to its prank, but Cannonfire's still playing this one straight: Was Barbara Bush's real father Aleister Crowley?

A sixth-level initiate within the OTO (the Ordo Templi Orientis, the mystical society that Crowely came to head in the 1920s) first set me down this research path by revealing that [Barbara Bush's mother] Pauline Robinson had befriended an woman named Nellie O'Hara, an American adventuress who, at some point during her European travels, met the famed writer Frank Harris. Despite his advancing years, Harris still maintained a reputation for sexual excess that rivaled Crowley's. During this period (1919-1927), Nellie and Frank Harris lived as man and wife, although they could not actually wed because Harris' second wife was still alive and would not grant a divorce.

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Nellie's friend Pauline no doubt scandalized her social circle by traveling to France on her own and leaving two very young children in the care of nursemaids. However, her correspondence with her friend -- whose life in France with a famous literary figure must have seemed quite glamorous -- can only have inspired a sense of wanderlust. Her husband, increasingly bound to his duties with the McCall Corporation, did not share this spirit of adventure.

Thus it was that four individuals came together: Frank Harris, Nellie O'Hara, Pauline Pierce [formerly Robinson], and Aleister Crowley. Anyone who has studied Crowley's life will understand that what happened next was, in a sense, inevitable.

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Pauline returned to America in early October of 1924. On June 8, 1925, she gave birth to a girl named Barbara. Barbara Pierce married George H.W. Bush, who eventually became the 41st President of the United States.

Many of the details check out, but I haven't found anything yet outside of Cannon's story supporting a link between Barbara's mother Pauline and Nellie O'Hara, let alone between Pauline and Crowley.

I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just saying it sounds too perfect, like a good hoax should. This piece stands out for Joseph Cannon since he doesn't usually pick at the occult aspects of power, and he's also a solid researcher not given to extraordinary claims. So I suppose what I'm really doing is adding the caution that before we repeat "Barbara Bush may be the daughter of Aleister Crowley" we should have more than the word of Cannon's annonymous OTO initiate as reported on April 1st.

Since we've already slipped into a time of attenuated reality in which anything - or at least anything bad - seems possible, we should take particular care about distinguishing fantastic fact from fantasy. For example, I still see The Onion gag from 2000 "Bush 'Refuses To Dignify' Mass-Murder Allegations" sited as a legitimate news story because "highly-regarded independent investigator Sherman H. Skolnick" cribbed from it in 2004. Whatever their previous merit, "investigators" like Skolnick and Tom Flocco seem little more than schlock artists now, serving product to the niche of paranoid entertainment by fabricating elaborate Black Iron Prisons in the air. It's poison to the legitimate inquiry of forbidden subjects, but consumers of conspiracy would rather have the thrill of being scared by a lie than be challenged by the terrible truth, because the truth demands more than our goosebumps.

But damn. I really hate April 1st.

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/04/fool-me-once_03.html

Jeff said...
"I meant gobble-de-gook like..."

And after I quoted the Art Bell clip, I wrote , in the aftermath of Katrina:

It can still give me goosebumps, especially because it accords with my own tentative conclusions, but it can't rise much above the caution "For entertainment purposes only." The hyperdimensional hypothesis can be explored by physicists like Michio Kaku and UFOlogists like Jacques Vallee, and the "infiltration of the military establishment" may be considered in a study of the Pentagon's occult pursuits (that "earlier precursor of the space program" sounds like Jack Parsons and friends), but the caller's claim of special knowledge is beyond verification.

I thought of this tonight because I sense we're approaching a time of flowering for great evil. This shouldn't shock us, but it is still going to surprise us by unfolding itself in unexpected ways. Things are accelerating, events are overtaking us, and the goosebumps are giving way to nervous tension. What's different? Then the theory, now the praxis.

There's a thrill of discovery, even of dark discoveries, and a certain joy at exercising critical thought in America's great Forbidden Zone. But now the game changes. "They want the major population centers wiped out." The entertainment value of an apocalyptic warning is compromised when it begins to fulfill itself.

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 07:13:52 -0400
From: "norgesen" <norgeson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Springtime for Atta

Friday, March 31, 2006
Springtime for Atta

You think they're so dumb, you think they're so funny
Wait until they've got you running to the Night Rally - Elvis Costello

A recurring and seemingly fabulist theme in the literature of cult and mind control survivors is the perseverence of a criminal Nazi underground in America, surviving on bonds of blood and symbology and enjoying the protection of high power. Eight-year old Rhonda, drawing pictures of her torture depicting swastikas and ceremonial daggers. Kathleen Sullivan writing in Unshackled of being shuffled between porn shoots and "secret Nazi meetings" by her father and grandfather. It's all a bit too rich for most palates, even now, when the Nazi is little more than a stock villain or comic foil. It's hard to get exercised about an enemy if you believe him buried beneath 60 years of history.

We know of Paperclip and the Ghelen Org, and how Nazis came to guide US government science and intelligence (and unacknowledged yet no less real, the covert trafficking of arms and drugs), finding the patronage of their stateside fellow travellers and eugenicists. Not as well known is how many others came to follow.

Between 1948 and 1952, America's Displaced Persons Commission arranged for nearly a half-million Europeans to emigrate to the United States. For two years it barred those who had been members of organizations sympathetic or collaborative to the Nazis. In 1950 that began to change, when first the "Baltic Legion" was removed from the list of "hostile" movements, though the Baltic Legion was also known as the Baltic Waffen SS.

The change of policy was strategic: the CIA was subsidizing the immigration of European Nazis and fascists in order to build a far-right power bloc as a hedge against communism. Its primary vehicle became the Republican Party. In the year the Commission completed its work, the Republican National Committee formed an "Ethnic Division" to mobilize for elections, which became the permanent standing body called the Republican Heritage Groups Council in 1969.

In his 1988 book Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party, Russ Bellant writes that "it eventually became clear that it wasn't an accident or a fluke that people with Nazi associations were in the Republican Heritage Groups Council. In some cases more mainstream ethnic organizations were passed over in favor of smaller but more extremists groups. [And] the Republican National Committee knows with whom they are dealing."

The leaders of the Republican "heritage" groups included men like Nicholas Nazarenko, who fought as an officer in an SS Cossack unit before going to work for the US Army's Counter Intelligence Corp. The evening after a Reagan speech praising the heritage groups, Nazarenko insisted on opening for Bellant his huge suitcase of political materials, filled with German war memorabilia and literature on the "Jewish problem." He said he was still "in touch" with various "Nazi" organizations: "They respect me because I was a former German army officer. Sometimes when I meet these guys, they say 'Heil Hitler.'"

Bellant again: "in a sense...the foundation of the Republican Heritage Groups Council lay in Hitler's networks into East Europe before World War II. In each of those Eastern European countries, the German SS set up or funded political action organizations that helped form SS militias during the war."

The heritage groups accounted for 86,000 volunteers in the 1988 election of George HW Bush, though several of their leaders were compelled to resign from campaign positions on account of collaboration. One was Romanian priest and member of the pro-Nazi Iron Guard Florian Galdau, who boasted of having files on 15,000 Romanians he helped emigrate in the US with the aid of CIA-linked resettlement groups the Tolstoy Foundation and the International Rescue Committee. Candidate Bush insisted they were all honourable men and innocent of all charges.

These old ratlines are of more than historical curiosity, and for more reason than that they suggest an embedding of Nazism in the Republican Party that goes beyond metaphor. They ratlines also appear to continue to function. Mohammed Atta participated in a German-American exchange program, jointly overseen by the State Department and the German Ministry of Economic Cooperation and Development and linked to both David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger. (The Carl Duisberg Society, named after a senior official of IG Farben.) According to Atta's stripper girlfriend Amanda Keller, he called his German associates in Florida his "brothers." One of then, Wolfgang Bohringer, belonged to the "Flying Club of Munich," which was owned by his father. "Such clubs were popular with "postwar German neo-Nazis to circumvent that country’s anti-Nazi laws."

Daniel Hopsicker further observes:

From what has been learned so far, the backgrounds of Atta's German associates seem strikingly similar to that of another German national, Andreas Strassmeir, whose possible relationship with Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh was in the news a decade ago. Strassmeir was at one point named in a lawsuit by families of the victims as a "US federal informant with material knowledge of the Oklahoma City bombing." Strassmeir's father was once a top aide to German Chancellor Helmut Kohl; Atta's German friends are all children of the German elite.

"Sometimes when I meet these guys, they say 'Heil Hitler.'" Sixty years - what's that?

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/03/springtime-for-atta_31.html

V for Vengeance said...

Jeff wrote: "A recurring and seemingly fabulist theme in the literature of cult and mind control survivors is the perseverence of a criminal Nazi underground in America, surviving on bonds of blood and symbology and enjoying the protection of high power. Eight-year old Rhonda, drawing pictures of her torture depicting swastikas and ceremonial daggers."

Nazis and Satanists go together like Bush and fascism. Where you find one you will invariably find the other, because their agendas and goals are the same. Control through fear and indoctrination, victim degradation, symbolism and fetish totems, pagan ritual and sacrifice for power, and world domination in the service of Lucifer.

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nordron said...

If readers are interested in these ties, they should check out Dave Emory. His shows are downloadable:

Recent shows at: http://www.spitfirelist.com/RA/

Older shows at: http://archive.wfmu.org:5555/archive/DX/

A listener posts summaries of the shows at
http://ftrsummary.blogspot.com/

Of course, we're all speculators, so it's hard to agree with his point of view entirely. But he is certainly informative, been quite predictive. The theorty of a Nazi Fifth Column takedown of the United States of America really fills in a number of the missing puzzle pieces. At least it helps to answer the question: why are George Bush's policies designed to destroy the Land of the Free and (at least once upon a time) Home of the Brave?

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starroute said...

Here's that summary of "Exposing the Nazi International" from Secret and Suppressed: Banned Ideas & Hidden History:

According to the introduction, the article purports to be a transcript of four conversations taped in 1981 between an investigative reporter and a man claiming to be a Nazi operative. The reporter found it too hot to handle and passed it along to a publisher, who spoke to the original informant, was able to verify one of his visits to Otto Skorzeny, but otherwise made no judgment about how much of it was true and how much of it fabricated out of whole cloth.

The subject of the interview describes himself as having been a liaison for the International Nazi Party for ten years, connecting the central headquarters with its field operatives. He says that the core of the organization consisted of former SS officers and Nazi Party members and that there was a second section of German industrialists and businessmen who provided financial support. He says they were involved with such groups as the IRA and the PLO, but also with "top level individuals in the Reagan administration" and with the Western German government.

He says his involvement began when his interest in war memorabilia led to an introduction to Otto Skorzeny. Over a period of a couple of years Skorzeny asked him to do a few minor tasks, gradually building confidence in him. He says he then got involved in a number of financial operations. One eventually involved sabotaging DC-10 airplanes by means of ultrasonic equipment in order to benefit Airbus. Another had to do with taking over corporations through various individuals or organizations as fronts. He refers to Dean Witter/Reynolds as being actually controlled by Arabs, who were in turn controlled by Germans, and says that the Germans and British had been vying for influence over leading Arabs for decades, with the Americans pretty oblivious to the whole thing. There was also speculation in gold. His own payoff came through the insider knowledge he gained of these transactions.

About 1975, he says, Skorzeny faked his own death, surfacing again at a compound in Paraguay in 1977. When they met in Paraguay, they discussed using Hawaii as a base, because the governor at the time was on the take, as well as other corporations they might take over.

He says this about the Reagan administration:

They decided in '79 that Reagan was going to be elected. A meeting was held, those attending being Alexander Haig, George Bush, Steve Bechtel, Dave Packard, Henry Kissinger and Helmut Schmidt at Bohemian Grove, in which policy was decided for future election of Ronald Reagan and possible events to follow thereafter. This was merely a preliminary meeting to decide basic goals and to structure the campaign as these American corporate officers would desire to have it structured.

Mr. Bechtel at that time was not in total agreement with certain objectives. To keep him in line a very minor object lesson was made by an attack on Bechtel's holdings in Central America. At that time General Haig wished to have more input, particularly regarding his possible nomination, but acquiesced when told that was not possible at this time. When he continued to balk at his position he was given an objectlesson, the attempted bombing of his staff car, which was never meant to explode. . . .

Shortly thereafter, it was in the final planning stages of the election campaign, it was determined that Reagan was pliable, and could be worked with and dealt with, that there would be no problem. As time grew closer Mr. Reagan was evidently asserting himself in such a way that it was felt that he could not be depended on to follow advice of his subordinates who, in effect, were to be the heads of government. It was determined that he was to be removed. The first operation planned was for January 11, 1981 at a dinner held as a farewell to close friends in the Los Angeles area. Information was pased through my sources and the operation was stopped. . . . My contact was able to prebvent this particular contract from being carried out, this is not to say that the contract will not be tried again, as happened in Washington recently.

He then gives other examples of "Organization influence." One involved faking the origin of Iranian oil on behalf of the large oil companies. Another had to do with the Hunt brothers' attempt to corner the silver market in 1979-80 (together with the ben Mafouz family and Ghaith Pharaon of later BCCI notoriety.) He says, "[The Hunts] thought they were screwing the Arabs. It was Arab money that did the buying. So when the bath came, it was the Arabs took the bath. The Hunts got a nice profit for themselves, the Organization got a fantastic profit for themselves, and the Arabs were left sucking eggs. Who took the rap? The Hunts."

When asked about the Rockefellers, he says that Nelson "was one of the bitterest enemies of the Organization," who "worked long and hard" to root them out of South America, but that David was working with the Organization and was responsible for Nelson's death. He adds cryptically, "[Nelson] was probably connected to the Organization, but what's important is that he was one of the few men in a position to hurt the Organization and insulate himself from retaliation. And Kissinger was his advisor, and Kissinger reported to David."

And he says this of the 1979 plan to elect Reagan (in effect, backdating the October Surprise by a year):

You must remember that the Shah, the one who died, his father was very pro-Nazi. The German industrial element has very carefully, for many years, cultivated the Middle East countries. . . . So we're getting back to Iran, and how Iran could help Reagan. . . . Information was fed from the Organization to Helmut Schmidt to David Rockefeller to Henry Kissinger. Creating friction leading to an incident and feeding the incident. Very simply, the incident was created by bringing the Shah to the United States. The people in Iran looked at it very simply. Their reaction was predictable.

He also speaks of airplane hijackings involving Carlos the Jackal and the PLO. And he says that the massacre at the 1972 Munich Olympics was an Organization operation. His final statement is that the younger generation in the Organization is more ruthless and less concerned with keeping a low profile than the original-era Nazis.

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What do I make of all this? As I said in the brief post above, the idea of a Nazi underground pulling the strings of these kinds of events behind the scenes seems ludicrous on the face of it -- but the piece itself has no obvious loopholes and in fact seems more convincing today, in light of everything that has come out about the Bush family and BCCI and so forth, than when I first read it. If it was actually written in 1981, it is extraordinary for its focus on exactly the topics that preoccupy us in 2006, rather than on the Soviet Union or other concerns of its own time. Even if it was concocted in 1993, which is the publication date of the book in which I have it, it was unusually forward-looking.

Also, the people it names are exactly those you might suspect of having Nazi, or at least fascist,connections. For example, Barbara Honegger's October Surprise is quoted in various places online as saying, "When the Italian police raided (P2 Lodge founder) Gelli's home in March 1981, it was Michael Ledeen who, at the instigation of Alexander Haig and Henry Kissinger, offered to buy the list of 953 P2 members in an apparent attempt to keep it from becoming public. Henry Kissinger had also reportedly sent Ledeen to Italy to try to squash an investigation into his and Haig's involvement in the founding of P2."

And there is an Alex Constantine piece on Adnan Kashoggi, Barrick Gold, and related matters, which concludes:

Another Nazi entrusted with the postwar wealth of the SS was Francois Genoud. In 1992, the Observer identified Genoud as "one of the world's leading Nazis." Authorites suggest that he "transferred the defeated Nazis' gold into Swiss bank accounts." Genoud underwrote the postwar Odessa organization. On March 12, 2002, the San Franciso Chronicle let on that Swiss police "believe Genoud founded al Taqwa Bank and allocated its resources to support international terrorists such as Vladimir Ilich Ramirez, alias Carlos the Jackal, and bin Laden." A few days later, Salon reported that Osama bin Laden had received funding from Al Taqwa, with shareholders that include prominent Arab figures from numerous countries in the Middle East. Among the shareholders are the grand mufti of the United Arab Emirates and prominent families in the UAE and Kuwait. Two sisters of Osama bin Laden are also on the list, undermining the bin Laden family's claim that it separated itself from his terrorist pursuits after he was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1994."

With all this subterfuge in the background, the Khashoggi-Lockheed bribery scandal begs reappraisal. Marcos, Yoshia and Iran-contra's John Singlaub were all charter members of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL), a para-fascist organization of old guard Nazis, death squad leaders, spooks and propagandists. WACL provides further right-wing context; the CIA and WACL were arguably symbiotic.

David Guyatt reports that a letter from Henry Kissinger dated February 21, 1986 was sent to Marcos, ordering the sale of 63,321 tons of gold to 2000 US and European banks. Marcos stubbornly refused and was dethroned.

So there's no doubt at all in my mind that much of what the article points to is real -- that there were a lot of fascists of various stripes active in the politics of the late 70's and early 80's, and that the 1980 election was a pre-planned coup in which Kissinger, Haig, and George H.W. Bush were centrally involved.

But whether there were really a bunch of old Nazis pulling *their* strings or whether that's merely a colorful rhetorical device, I have no idea.

I also have no opinion on whether David Rockefeller really murdered Nelson.

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Anonymous said...
I will supply the third Dave Emory link for Jeff's latest post. I don't know what people on the board think of Emory, but I have listened to his radio shows on and off since the mid-Eighties and find him is one of the most insightful and prescient speculators on our recent past and present moment. In some of his latest shows he has been refering to the following historical,mostly out of print, books on Fascism's roots and shoots. Download them,bind them and be sure to pass a copy to friends family,countryman,and of course your local library because its probably doubtful that any of these in their collections.
http://spitfirelist.com/Books/books.html

Other Worthwhile Books are below. Although I have read many but not all of these selections. I welcome any input on other books that helps
us all unwrap our recent and presently hopefully presently unraveling historical mystery.

Unholy Alliance: A History of the Nazi Involvement With the Occult -Peter Levenda (Also Levenda's Sinister Forces Trilogy is highly
recommended.)

The Occult Roots of Nazism: Secret Aryan Cults and Their Influence on Nazi Ideology-Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke

Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of IdentityNicholas Goodrick-Clarke

Unholy Trinity : The Vatican, The Nazis, & The Swiss Banks-John Loftus

The Belarus Secret by John Loftus

U.S. Intelligence and the Nazis by Richard Breitman

Prelude to Terror: the Rogue CIA, The Legacy of America's Private Intelligence Network the Compromising of American Intelligence -Trento

Please post others books that have helped you start to unravel the recent historicalhistorical/mystery!

Anonymous said...

Ok here is the the 4th Dave Emory referenced post. Per my previous post on influential books, I feel compelled to post this excellent introduction that Dave Emory has written regarding the "out of print" books he has archived on his website. I think this is provides an fitting corollary to Jeff's excellant article.

INTRODUCTION

By Dave Emory

“It’s a good thing we didn’t lose World War II. If we had, all our public officials would be named Shultz, Weinberger and Kissinger, and everybody would be driving German and Japanese cars.”—Popular joke that made the rounds in the early 1980’s.

In the decades since the end of the Second World War, much has been written about the war and fascism, the driving force behind the aggression that precipitated that conflict. Unfortunately, much of what has been said and written has failed to identify and analyze the causes, nature and methodology of fascism—German National Socialism or “Nazism” in particular. A deeper, more accurate analysis was presented in literature published before, during and immediately after World War II. The SPITFIRE web site is pleased to present a number of books published during that period. All more than 50 years old, these works embody a more complete, profound analysis of the historical forces that dominated the events of that time and, more importantly, our own.

Whereas much contemporary literature on the subject presents fascism (and Nazism in particular) as an aberration, the phenomenon was an outgrowth of major political forces and dynamics that dominate and control contemporary events and processes. Some of the books presented here illustrate the extent to which fascism (Nazism in particular) was an outgrowth of globalization and the construction of international monopolies (cartels). [FTR#’s 99, 361, 426, 511 and 532 present an overview of the reinvestment of the wealth generated by the American industrial boom of the 1920’s in German and Japanese strategic heavy industry. It was this capital that drove the engines of conquest that subdued both Europe and Asia during the conflict.]

Germany’s Master Plan (1943) by Borkin and Welsh analyzes how the Nazis took advantage of the budding globalized economy to restrict their enemies’ strategic production, as well as their access to critical raw materials. Treason’s Peace (1947) by Howard Watson Ambruster highlights how the I.G. Farben chemical firm manipulated trade relationships to the advantage of the Third Reich. In addition, the book illustrates how corporations, businessmen and politicians beholden unto the firm’s non-German cartel partners assisted that manipulation, as well as the postwar rehabilitation and exoneration of both I.G. and its most important personnel. Those personnel and the vast reach of I.G. Farben and its cartel partners are also the subject of Josiah Du Bois’s The Devil’s Chemists. James Stewart Martin’s All Honorable Men (1950) documents the manner in which powerful economic interests in the United States frustrated attempts at de-cartelization and thereby ensured the postwar perpetuation of globalized “business as usual.” As Martin points out, these commercial interests were able to successfully manipulate the networks through which government operates, and direct it to their own nefarious ends. The lone title in the collection less than 50 years old, Paul Manning’s Martin Bormann: Nazi in Exile (1981) chronicles the postwar underground perpetuation of the Nazi political and business hierarchy and its dominant role in both the international corporate economy and the contemporary political landscape.

The Third Reich’s elaborate plans for postwar underground survival and continuity were predicated on the certainty that the multinational corporate community would preserve the Nazi infrastructure as a bulwark against communism during the (then) imminent Cold War. This “Underground Reich” was foreseen and analyzed in Curt Reiss’s The Nazis Go Underground, published in early 1944. In addition to the powerful corporate economic interests allied with Nazi business centers, the process of underground perpetuation was greatly aided by “Fifth Column” movements abroad. Composed of ideological supporters of the fascist philosophy, these Fifth Column movements were instrumental in realizing Nazi blueprints for military conquest during the war, as well as postwar continuation and enlargement of those plans. Written on the eve of World War II, Gollomb’s Armies of Spies correctly anticipated the enormous scope and effectively successful activities of the Fifth Columnists in nations slated for Nazi invasion. Triumph of Treason (1944) by Pierre Cot is a remarkable first-hand account of the subversion of France by powerful domestic interests, who saw political control by their ideological allies (and cartel business partners) in Germany as preferable to power-sharing with their own democratically-minded citizens. [Cot had been the French Minister of Aviation in the immediate pre-war period, and witnessed the deliberate, successful attempts at weakening France’s ability to resist the Nazis militarily. The traitors who subverted French democracy then blamed the French collapse on their patriotic political opponents.]

In developing their Fifth Column movements abroad, the Nazis (and the Japanese) proceeded in a geopolitical manner. Because they saw Spain as the key to the domination of several continents (Europe, North Africa, Latin America), the Nazis and their allies in the general staff groomed the Spanish Falange as the fascist movement of choice. Writing of this in Falange (1943), Alan Chase notes how the Reich then used political control of Spain to advance their agenda in Latin America and the Spanish-speaking world. The reader is invited to address Chase’s research in light of the relatively well-documented postwar operation and perpetuation of fascist interests in Latin America.

For the Nazis, geopolitics dictated a profound interest in the Muslim peoples of what they called “The Earth Island.”--a giant, contiguous land mass that encompasses all of Europe, much of the Middle East, the former Soviet Union, India (including Pakistan at the time), and China. Stretching from the Straits of Gibraltar to the Pacific coasts of China and Russia, this land mass contains most of the world’s territory, population and natural resources—oil in particular. Control that land and you control the world. Accordingly, the Nazis built alliances with the various Muslim populations (Arabs in particular) that are indigenous to many of the most important petroleum-producing regions. Writing in 1951, John Roy Carlson witnessed and chronicled the postwar Nazi recrudescence in the Middle East in Cairo to Damascus, a work that has particular importance for students of the events of 9/11/2001.

In an earlier work—Undercover (1943)—Carlson infiltrated and wrote about the vigorous Axis underground that existed in the United States before and during World War II. Michael Sayers and Albert E. Kahn penned Sabotage in 1942, documenting the violent and treasonous nature of many of the American Fifth Columnists, who committed acts of assassination and sabotage in support of the Axis powers. These tactics were used to good effect in Germany and Japan, where potential political opponents to the rise of fascism were eliminated through a deliberate program of political murder.

It is in that context that we may view Government by Assassination (1942), Hugh Byas’s riveting account of the assassinations committed by the Japanese patriotic and ultra-nationalistic societies. Culminating in the “May 15th Incident”—the assassination of the Japanese Prime Minister on 5/15/1932—these murders were instrumental in the accession to power of the Japanese militarists and the corporate and imperial elements behind them.

Two other books available here provide valuable insights into the contemporary period. T.H. Tetens’ Germany Plots with the Kremlin (1953) treats the pivotally important German “Ostpolitik,” which German power structure has traditionally exploited in order expand and develop its influence. The German threat to either remain neutral during the Cold War, or to ally with the USSR was a significant factor in persuading conservative American power brokers to go along with the return to power in Germany of the Nazi elements that prosecuted World War II. Under the circumstances, some of these conservatives felt that permitting Nazi elements to return to power behind a democratic façade was the lesser of two evils, although many would have preferred a more traditionally conservative German political establishment. This German “Ostpolitik,” in turn, is characteristic of the geopolitical foresight and cynicism with which Pan-Germanists have successfully pursued their goal of world domination through the centuries.

Paul Winkler’s The Thousand-Year Conspiracy traces the origins of German chauvinism to the ascent of the Teutonic Knights within Germanic society. Winkler labels the enablers of the dark side of the German character “Prusso-Teutonics” and notes that, in their pursuit of Pan-German goals, they do not hesitate to deal in a cynical and ruthless manner with their own citizens. Of particular note for contemporary Americans is the deliberate, Machiavellian manipulation of the German economy by Hjalmar Horace Greeley Schacht, the American-born financier who eventually became the finance minister of the Third Reich. Take note of Winkler’s account of how Schacht re-structured the German economy with an eye to—among other things—driving the citizenry to such a point of hysteria that they would willingly follow the likes of Hitler. Compare Winkler’s analysis with what is taking place today in the United States. Writing in 1943, Winkler foresaw that the Prusso-Teutonics would realize their goals through the creation of a German-dominated central European economic union (bearing a striking resemblance to today’s European Monetary Union.)

“Those Who Forget the Past Are Condemned to Repeat It”—George Santayana

“ . . . We cannot turn over our future economic policy to private groups without public responsibility, as we have in the past. . . .” U.S. Attorney General Thurman W. Arnold, writing in the “Introduction” to Germany’s Master Plan

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starroute said...
Another piece that's well worth reading in connection with all of the above is Steve Kangas's "The Origins of the Overclass," about the CIA as the basis of the ongoing right-wing takeover of the US since 1970. Although it doesn't explicitly identify this movement as fascist, it forms a perfect match with others that do.

Pick any thread of the contemporary right and try to trace back where it came from and how it got its power, and you will almost certainly wind up with the CIA.

One major line of transmission goes through Bill Buckley (CIA) and particularly his Young Americans for Freedom. Some of YAF's leaders of the 60's and early 70's got channelled into associations with essentially fascist groups like the American-Chilean Council and the World Anti-Communist League, or with the related operations of Reverend Moon. Others followed the path of fundraising scams and political dirty tricks.

A second line goes through Ray S. Cline (OSS and CIA) and his Center for Strategic and International Studies, founded in 1962. Cline and his network of both former and active CIA agents were a major force behind George H.W. Bush's abortive presidential bid in 1979 and then were involved in the darker aspects of Reagan's 1980 campaign. Even though Cline died in the 90's, CSIS continues to be a hotbed of Nazi-style geostrategic thinking mentioned in the long Dave Emory quote above -- Kissinger, Brzezinski, all that bunch -- and is behind much of the insane US dream of ruling the world by dominating the 'stans and Central Asia.

There are a couple of other avenues of CIA influence that I haven't explored as deeply as those two. One involves Scaife and the other funders who have pumped so much cash into right-wing operations since the 70's. Another is the religious right, whose origins seem not to lie in anything genuinely religious but rather in the extreme anti-communist groups of the 50's, behind which lie the overt fascist groups of the US in the 30's.

And then, of course, there are the Gladio/Stay-behind type operations in places like Italy and Turkey. And on. And on.

It's a vast, tangled web -- and I've only explored a few small corners of it. Between 1950 and 1990, most of it was able to pass as "anti-communist" and thus obscure its true nature. But once we consider it as not only explicitly fascist, but as the direct heir of the fascism of the 30's and 40's, certain figures and events are highlighted and the whole takes on greater coherence.

As one example, the close relationships among various strains of fascists in Italy, Latin America, and Taiwan in the 70's and 80's start to appear as a main theme, and not merely a sidebar to the US struggle against the Soviet Union. In fact, the entire Cold War begins to appear as an elaborate diversion from what was really going on in those years, a myth or cover story to justify actions and affiliations that would otherwise have been unthinkable.

And the CIA, as a covert vehicle for the reinforcement of elite dominance, was at the heart of most of it.

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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 06:18:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Legere <sledger911@yahoo.com>
Subject: another celeb ?? 9/11 that slipped throught the cracks

She's a mid level personality but she did say a few things a while back

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=707605

She'll be in the new flick comming out in Aug. She took a lot of flack for saying what she said.


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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 06:30:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Legere <sledger911@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: another celeb ?? 9/11 that slipped throught the cracks

A few more with this interesting :phrase

The 27-year-old actress, who stars in a new film about the 2001 terror attacks on the World Trade Center, said in an interview last week that the United States "is responsible in some way" for the attacks.

http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,12589,1471340,00.html

http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=189305&GT1=6428

Scott Legere <sledger911@yahoo.com> wrote:
She's a mid level personality but she did say a few things a while back

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=707605

She'll be in the new flick comming out in Aug. She took a lot of flack for saying what she said.

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 06:42:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: amy dalzell <amydalzell@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MANDATORY AIDS TESTING -Clinton's Slippery Slope

Really? That's interesting. I have no hard evidence about the origins of AIDS, but I sure it's out there.

Maybe we can hope that 9/11 will be the catalyst that will eventually undermine the mountain of lies told to the American people just since 1955 (my birth).

Judy Cunningham <drjudyforjustice@yahoo.com> wrote:
A few years, ago, The Guardian Newspaper of England, (Greg Palast), printed an article stating that aids developed in Africa in areas, where the U.S. just happened to distribute "small pox vaccines."

amy dalzell <amydalzell@yahoo.com> wrote: I think, perhaps, we should be worrying more about where AIDS came from in the first place. Let's see - c. 1979 - hmmmm - monogamy, hypocrisy, and marriage (and religion) being challenged on every front in the U.S. and the general Western world...

hmmmmmm....women getting out of line.....What do we need to keep these people in their place?

hmmmm...

A heterosexual WHITE hegemonic culture being challenged by people who want to live their own lives and LOVE each other...

What to we need? hmmmmm...

'How 'bout an incurable, sexually transmitted disease that originated in AFRICA from MONKEYS that (initially) affects HOMOSEXUALS!!

hmmmmmm........

Whom do you think...Dupont? Monsanto?

Cathy Garger <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com> wrote:
MANDATORY AIDS TESTING - Clinton's Slippery Slope
30 March 2006

Bill Clinton has called for mandatory testing for HIV/AIDS in nations that have high infection rates.

Clinton (as in I did not inhale, I did not have sex with that woman in the stained navy dress) is hereby telling the impoverished nations of the world that they must be tested for AIDS, for their own good.

Mandatory testing for one country, soon to be many more. Woops! Live in the wrong country? Sorry. You will soon be tested for AIDS.

Continued: http://mytown.ca/garger/

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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:14:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Judy Cunningham <drjudyforjustice@yahoo.com>
Subject: Iran is inevitable - the Sunday Telegraph of London

At our 9/11 flyering event, I talked to an Army Officer who just returned from Iraq, and he said that it is all propaganda, to gain control of Iran, about Iran developing missles. Israel has enough missles aimed at Tehran to level it, within minutes, if Israel really suspected Iran was developing missles.

Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:

DEBKAfile, Political Analysis, Espionage, Terrorism Security
British military chiefs believe a US-led strike against Iran is inevitable - the Sunday Telegraph of London
April 2, 2006, 6:32 AM (GMT+02:00)

The paper reports the prospect will be aired at a secret high-level UK defense ministry meeting Monday.
DEBKAfile’s military sources report: British generals will examine Iran’s successful test of a Fajr-3 multiple warhead missile that can reach Israel, that was carried out undetected by US or Israel radar Friday, March 31. It was launched on the first day of a large-scale Iranian exercise in the Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman.
Those sources add that the Israeli Arrow anti-missile system has no answer for multiple warhead ballistic missiles.
The US hopes for a multinational military operation to destroy Iran’s ability to develop a nuclear bomb - if Tehran fail to comply with the UN security council demand to freeze uranium enrichment. But British defense chiefs believe that failing international support, the Bush administration would go it alone or with Israel’s assistance.
DEBKAfile adds: Last month, former Israel chief of staff Moshe Yaalon estimated that a strike of this kind would be phased, suggesting that each phase would be undertaken by a different armed force.
In Blackburn, northwest England, Saturday, US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice said all negotiating options including the use of force remained open for resolving the Iran crisis. Last month, foreign secretary Jack Straw took the opposite stance saying a military attack was inconceivable.
According to the Sunday Telegraph, British military chiefs believe an attack would be limited to a series of air strikes against nuclear plants rather than a land assault - tactical Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from US navy ships and submarines in the Gulf, followed by B2 stealth bombers equipped with 8 4,500lb enhanced BLU-28 satellite-guided bunker-busting bombs flying from Diego Garcia, the RAF base in Gloucestershire in the UK and Whiteman USAF base in Missouri.
At least eight nuclear sites are known within Iran but there are many more secret ones.
The London paper reports Washington fears an Iranian nuclear weapon could be used against Israel or US forces in the region as well as destabilizing the Middle East with Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia opting for nuclear weapons programs.


Steve


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:45:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: linelites@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: Reframing 9/11 Truth

I'VE BEEN FRAMED......
Good work, Donald.
I sadden to think the human species has to wade through such bull for such simple truths.
But if we gotta play this game, so be it. From now on...."the towers were pulverized"
(and so will be our opponent's argument)
Jeremy

-----Original Message-----
>From: Donald Stahl <politicstahl@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Apr 3, 2006 9:25 PM
>To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [911TruthAction] Reframing 9/11 Truth
>
>
>
>
>It is no secret to 9/11 activists that it's difficult to get the
>truth across. We need to recognize that we are not alone here, and
>that "progressives" and "liberals" have the same problem. They are
>beginning to come up with some answers, and we need to know what they
>are.
>
>I'm speaking of George Lakoff and his Rockridge Institute:
>http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/ .
>
>Reframing isn't everything, as William A. Gamson and Charlotte Ryan
>point out,
>http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v19n2/gamson_elephants.html but it
>is something, and it's a tool 9/11 Truth has much use for. This is
>because every time someone, whether Truther or Bush-backer, says that
>the WTC buildings "collapsed," they use vocabulary that frames and
>supports the official story. This is not a habit we want to be
>copying from the Democrats.
>
>On p. 73 of Don't Think of an Elephant! Know Your Values and Frame
>the Debate, (White River Junction, VT, 2004) Lakoff says:
>
>"One of the fundamental findings of cognitive science is that people
>think in terms of frames and metaphors¾conceptual structures like
>those we have been describing. The frames are in the synapses of our
>brains, physically present in the form of neural circuitry. When the
>facts don't fit the frames, the frames are kept and the facts ignored.
>
>"It is a common folk theory of progressives that `the facts will set
>you free.' If only you can get all the facts out there in the public
>eye, then every rational person will reach the right conclusion. It
>is a vain hope. Human brains just don't work that way. Framing
>matters. Frames once entrenched are hard to dispel." (73).
>.
>Every 9/11 activist will admit this.
>
>Here is Doug Thompson answering responses to his anti-9/11 Truth
>rant, "9/11 Conspiracy Theories Don`t Pass the Smell Test":
>
>To answer some questions:
>--I've watched "Loose Change." Didn't convince me. Lots of
>speculation.
>--Striking The Washington Monument didn't have enough kill potential.
>The plane would have crashed short of the Pentagon.
>--As a journalist, I based my conclusions on facts from experts, not
>speculation from others with an agenda. The facts, as I see them,
>don't support the theories. As someone who loves a good story I wish
>they did. But they don't.
>Doug
>Posted by Doug Thompson at March 31, 2006 10:10 AM
>
>Now here is Lakoff again:
>
>"When we negate a frame, we evoke the frame." (3).
>
>"Remember, don't just negate the other person's claims; reframe. The
>facts unframed will not set you free. You cannot win just by stating
>the true facts and showing that they contradict your opponent's
>claims. Frames trump facts. His frames will stay and the facts will
>bounce off. Always reframe." (115).
>
>Note that Lakoff is not suggesting that you ignore facts.
>
>As examples of framing Lakoff gives the phrases `tax
>relief', `permission slip' and `wasteful spending` (as in Bush's
>State of the Union speech), 'rogue states', 'friendly nations'
>and `family values'.
>
>"When the word tax is added to relief, the result is a metaphor:
>Taxation is an affliction. And the person who takes it away is a
>hero, and anyone who tries to stop him is a bad guy. This is a
>frame. It is made up of ideas, like affliction and hero. The language
>that evokes the frame comes out of the White House, and it goes into
>press releases, goes to every radio station, every TV station, every
>newspaper. And soon the New York Times is using tax relief. And it is
>not only on Fox; it is on CNN, it is on NBC, it is on every station
>because it is `the president's tax-relief plan.' And soon the
>Democrats are using tax relief¾and shooting themselves in the foot."
>(4).
>
>An example of framing relevant to 9/11 Truth is saying that the WTC
>Towers collapsed.
>
>The official story has it that the three buildings of the World Trade
>Center did what they did because they were on fire, but no one says
>that the buildings "burned down." That would be ludicrously
>inappropriate, even though they did turn into a kind of "ashes." The
>official story has to use the term `collapse' because that term is so
>general it conceals what really happened to the buildings. Buildings
>collapse in earthquakes, but they don't turn into what the WTC
>buildings turned into. Firefighter Joe Casaliggi, in the DVD 9/11,
>created by Jules and Gedeon Naudet, says, "The building collapsed TO
>DUST. [His emphasis.]" But he was only using the word that had been
>given to him by the media. He knows as well as you or I that
>nothing "collapses to dust." That is as silly as saying that
>they "collapsed to smithereens."
>
>Lakoff himself is misled into misdescribing what happened to the
>Towers.
>
>"Metaphorically, tall buildings are people standing erect. As each
>tower fell, it became a body falling. … when we see a plane coming
>toward the building and imagine people in the building, we feel the
>plane coming toward us; when we see the building toppling toward
>others, we feel the building toppling toward us. … If we see the
>plane going through the building, and unconsciously we evoke the
>metaphor of the building as a head with the plane going through its
>temple, then we sense¾unconsciously but powerfully¾being shot through
>the temple. If we evoke the metaphor of the building as a person and
>see the building fall to the ground in pieces, then we sense¾again
>unconsciously but powerfully¾that we are falling to the ground in
>pieces." (54).
>
>Anyone who watched the news during VietNam, as Lakoff did, has seen a
>person being shot in the temple and falling to the ground; and they
>know that the person does not fall to the ground in pieces, much less
>disintegrate from the top down.
>
>This is what happened to the WTC buildings: they didn't topple; they
>disintegrated. When something falls down, it doesn't disintegrate, it
>just falls down, or collapses. When something burns up, it may
>disintegrate, but not in ten seconds. The only way to disintegrate
>massive concrete and steel buildings is by means of explosives, and
>that fact is apparent even to very frightened people.
>
>It was good to have Hoffman and S.P.I.N.E. showing that what the
>official story alleges is physically impossible; in fact, it was
>necessary in the beginning because people are often unwilling to
>trust their own judgment when it seems to be contradicted by experts
>and authorities.
>
>In the 1950s a psychology professor, Solomon Asch, did some
>experiments on college students. He told them that he wanted to test
>visual perception, but that was a lie. He had them sit in a classroom
>with other students and showed them all some lines, asking which
>lines looked like they were the same length, but only one student was
>really being tested. The others were conspirators along with
>Professor Asch, and they deliberately gave wrong answers. The student
>being tested was always asked last, after having heard all the others
>say that it looked to them like the wrong lines were the same length.
>The experiment was really to find out how many people,
>percentagewise, could be made to say that they saw what they didn't
>see, just to go along with the crowd. The answer was: about one third.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments
>
>Note that the pressure came only from their equals, other
>undergraduates, not from any authority figure such as the teacher.
>Suppose some crafty professor told his class that he was going to
>illustrate the nature of some visual illusions for them, and then
>showed them some unequal lines, saying that the appearance of
>inequality was an illusion¾the lines were really equal. He then puts
>out a bogus, but detailed, explanation of why the lines look unequal
>when they're not. How many of the class will be fooled? Probably
>quite a few; a majority, surely, if not all. What happened to the
>Towers looked like a controlled demolition, but of course it really
>wasn't. It couldn't have been, because the authorities, that is, the
>government and the $1.3 trillion media industry, said it wasn't. It
>may have looked like a missile hit the Pentagon and the abandoned
>strip mine in Pennsylvania, but of course what really happened was
>that a giant airliner, a Boeing 757 weighing 128,730 lbs. empty, hit
>those places and disappeared, according to some highly convoluted
>explanation.
>
>"Even though the facts which prove this to be so [that is, that they
>were lied to] may be brought clearly to their minds, they [the
>people] will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that
>there may be some other explanation."
>
>Hitler was certainly right when he said this. Bring the facts clearly
>to their minds, or even to their eyes; when the obvious is also the
>unthinkable, what are they to do? The function of
>government "experts" is to provide that "other explanation,"
>those "facts as we (would like to) see them" which will allow people
>to continue to think what they want to think, what they need to
>think, in spite of their own eyes.
>
>The point is that it is obvious that the Towers were exploded. Saying
>that they collapsed obscures this and shoots us in the foot. The
>Towers didn't "fall," or "come down," or "topple." They disintegrated
>from the top down, as anyone with eyes can see. Shock and awe are
>over now. It's time to start reframing the obvious as obvious.
>
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:46:59 -0000
From: "botalerts" <botalerts@yahoo.ca>
Subject: 9/11: a 7-Man Job

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/04/911-7-man-job.html

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:10:57 -0000
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
Subject: Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect ! tvnl news

9/11 News : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#911

· Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect - The
former head of the Star Wars missile defense program under Presidents
Ford and Carter has gone public to say that the official version of
9/11 is a conspiracy theory and his main suspect for the architect of
the attack is Vice President Dick Cheney.

· Oprah911.com - Here is the idea - have Oprah Winfrey do a show or
ultimately a series of shows on the events surrounding 911.
TVNL Comment: Our original idea is getting some attention and support!

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:19:21 -0000
From: "stoelting1981" <fiat@sofnet.com>
Subject: Bush 41 Main 9/11 Suspect !

Google Search: "Arrest Bush 41"
The FBI uses polygraphs to eliminate suspects.

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:37:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: janet phelan <jcphelan10@yahoo.com>
Subject: Ben Stein on the State of the "Union"

If they know of him at all, many folks think Ben Stein is just a quirky actor/comedian who talks in a monotone. He's also a very intelligent attorney who knows how to put ideas and words together in such a way as to sway juries and make people think clearly.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday Morning Commentary, Sunday, 12/18/05.

Herewith at this happy time of year, a few confessions from my beating heart: I have no freaking clue who Nick and Jessica are. I see them on the cover of People and Us constantly when I am buying my dog biscuits and kitty litter. I often ask the checkers at the grocery stores. They never know who Nick and Jessica are either. Who are they? Will it change my life if I know who they are and why they have broken up? Why are they so important?
I don't know who Lindsay Lohan is either, and I do not care at all about Tom Cruise's wife.

Am I going to be called before a Senate committee and asked if I am a subversive? Maybe, but I just have no clue who Nick and Jessica are.
If this is what it means to be no longer young. It's not so bad.

Next confession:
I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are: Christmas trees.
It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, "Merry Christmas" to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu. If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution, and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship Nick and Jessica and we aren't allowed to worship God as we understand Him?

I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too.

But there are a lot of us who are wondering where Nick and Jessica came from and where the America we knew went to.


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:57:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: janet phelan <jcphelan10@yahoo.com>
Subject: The Liberal Progressive Two-Step

The Liberal-Progressive Two-Step
(set to the Rabbinical Rag)--dedicated to Steve Rodhe (head of the ACLU of Southern California)

The music is starting
grab your partner
and dance
as if your life
depended on it

Do si do
to 911
but very carefully
dance around
the Reichstag Fires similarity
and do not approach
impending genocide
do not approach
massive/ imminent/ domestic /carnage

or this dance
will prove your last

Swing your partner
round and round
but sidestep
targetting
sidestep
death squads
and don't even mention
the water!

If your partner
is a mole
if your partner
is a plant
smile sweetly
curtsy
and move on down the line

Dance to anti-war
protest marches
dance to letter writing campaigns
dance to Vote Democrat
in 2008
and other completely ineffective gestures

Dance to no WMD?
Must be the oil!
Dance to Iraq/
Afghanistan/Haiti
But do not dance
to the dirge of America

Ignore the disappeared
Ignore the quote unquote suicides
Ignore the quote unquote accidents

Dance around the truth
as if it were on fire

cause you want to dance
the next round

Don't you?

Janet C. Phelan


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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:09:08 -0700
From: APFN <apfn@apfn.org>
Subject: [Fwd: 9/11 UN International Independent Investigation Commission]

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:57:48 -0700
From: APFN <apfn@apfn.org>
Subject: What would you do? by Paris (song about 9/11

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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:04:05 -0700
From: John Leonard <jpleonard@verizon.net>
Subject: Tarpley on TV tomoro at 9 a.m.

Webster Tarpley TV Interview on 9/11 Truth Breakthru Airs
in Manhattan, on Internet, Wed. April 5th

Author shares iconoclastic views on 9/11 and "War on Terrorism."
Tarpley's publisher files shareholder motion today urging
insurance giant to investigate WTC demolition charges.

An interview with Webster Tarpley will be aired on the Public Access
Network in New York City on Wed. April 5th on MNN (Manhattan
Neighborhood Network) on 9 to 10 a.m. EDT on Channel 67 and will be
simulcast on www.MNN.org at the same hour.

To watch the simulcast you only need a broadband internet connection.
Just click on Channel 34 once you are on the MNN.org website.

The interview will be on Tina Tarryk's show, "Making Known The
Unknown." It was taped on March 29th.

Molly Cheshire interviews Mr. Tarpley, and the focus is the startling
release of the article in New York Magazine and the unexpected
appearance of Charlie Sheen on CNN the week of March 20th. These new
developments show that it is possible for these radical ideas to be
recognized by the mainstream. We also discuss the destruction of WTC
Building 7 as the incontrovertible evidence that defies the
authorized explanation.

In a separate development, Tarpley's publisher, John Leonard of
Progressive Press in California, is campaigning to highlight the
negligence of the big insurance companies in failing to investigate
suspect damage claims filed against them for the destruction of the
NY World Center. He has purchased shares in two large German
reinsurance companies, Allianz and Munich Re, in order to make
shareholder motions at their annual general meetings. Today, April
4th, he filed a motion to withhold approval of the Munich Re board of
directors, which should be published on the firm's website. The text
may be viewed at www.waronfreedom.org/press/mumotion.txt

Home URL of this release: www.waronfreedom.org/press/MNN-MU-4406.txt
or http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200604/1144202072.html

Progressive Press Home: www.progressivepress.com

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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 19:15:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Reframing 9/11 Truth

All I have to say is to point them to Prof Steven Jones. let the morons argue with HIM.

linelites@mindspring.com wrote: I'VE BEEN FRAMED......
Good work, Donald.
I sadden to think the human species has to wade through such bull for such simple truths.
But if we gotta play this game, so be it. From now on...."the towers were pulverized"
(and so will be our opponent's argument)
Jeremy

-----Original Message-----
>From: Donald Stahl <politicstahl@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Apr 3, 2006 9:25 PM
>To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [911TruthAction] Reframing 9/11 Truth
>
>
>
>
>It is no secret to 9/11 activists that it's difficult to get the
>truth across. We need to recognize that we are not alone here, and
>that "progressives" and "liberals" have the same problem. They are
>beginning to come up with some answers, and we need to know what they
>are.
>
>I'm speaking of George Lakoff and his Rockridge Institute:
>http://www.rockridgeinstitute.org/ .
>
>Reframing isn't everything, as William A. Gamson and Charlotte Ryan
>point out,
>http://www.publiceye.org/magazine/v19n2/gamson_elephants.html but it
>is something, and it's a tool 9/11 Truth has much use for. This is
>because every time someone, whether Truther or Bush-backer, says that
>the WTC buildings "collapsed," they use vocabulary that frames and
>supports the official story. This is not a habit we want to be
>copying from the Democrats.
>
>On p. 73 of Don't Think of an Elephant! Know Your Values and Frame
>the Debate, (White River Junction, VT, 2004) Lakoff says:
>
>"One of the fundamental findings of cognitive science is that people
>think in terms of frames and metaphors¾conceptual structures like
>those we have been describing. The frames are in the synapses of our
>brains, physically present in the form of neural circuitry. When the
>facts don't fit the frames, the frames are kept and the facts ignored.
>
>"It is a common folk theory of progressives that `the facts will set
>you free.' If only you can get all the facts out there in the public
>eye, then every rational person will reach the right conclusion. It
>is a vain hope. Human brains just don't work that way. Framing
>matters. Frames once entrenched are hard to dispel." (73).
>.
>Every 9/11 activist will admit this.
>
>Here is Doug Thompson answering responses to his anti-9/11 Truth
>rant, "9/11 Conspiracy Theories Don`t Pass the Smell Test":
>
>To answer some questions:
>--I've watched "Loose Change." Didn't convince me. Lots of
>speculation.
>--Striking The Washington Monument didn't have enough kill potential.
>The plane would have crashed short of the Pentagon.
>--As a journalist, I based my conclusions on facts from experts, not
>speculation from others with an agenda. The facts, as I see them,
>don't support the theories. As someone who loves a good story I wish
>they did. But they don't.
>Doug
>Posted by Doug Thompson at March 31, 2006 10:10 AM
>
>Now here is Lakoff again:
>
>"When we negate a frame, we evoke the frame." (3).
>
>"Remember, don't just negate the other person's claims; reframe. The
>facts unframed will not set you free. You cannot win just by stating
>the true facts and showing that they contradict your opponent's
>claims. Frames trump facts. His frames will stay and the facts will
>bounce off. Always reframe." (115).
>
>Note that Lakoff is not suggesting that you ignore facts.
>
>As examples of framing Lakoff gives the phrases `tax
>relief', `permission slip' and `wasteful spending` (as in Bush's
>State of the Union speech), 'rogue states', 'friendly nations'
>and `family values'.
>
>"When the word tax is added to relief, the result is a metaphor:
>Taxation is an affliction. And the person who takes it away is a
>hero, and anyone who tries to stop him is a bad guy. This is a
>frame. It is made up of ideas, like affliction and hero. The language
>that evokes the frame comes out of the White House, and it goes into
>press releases, goes to every radio station, every TV station, every
>newspaper. And soon the New York Times is using tax relief. And it is
>not only on Fox; it is on CNN, it is on NBC, it is on every station
>because it is `the president's tax-relief plan.' And soon the
>Democrats are using tax relief¾and shooting themselves in the foot."
>(4).
>
>An example of framing relevant to 9/11 Truth is saying that the WTC
>Towers collapsed.
>
>The official story has it that the three buildings of the World Trade
>Center did what they did because they were on fire, but no one says
>that the buildings "burned down." That would be ludicrously
>inappropriate, even though they did turn into a kind of "ashes." The
>official story has to use the term `collapse' because that term is so
>general it conceals what really happened to the buildings. Buildings
>collapse in earthquakes, but they don't turn into what the WTC
>buildings turned into. Firefighter Joe Casaliggi, in the DVD 9/11,
>created by Jules and Gedeon Naudet, says, "The building collapsed TO
>DUST. [His emphasis.]" But he was only using the word that had been
>given to him by the media. He knows as well as you or I that
>nothing "collapses to dust." That is as silly as saying that
>they "collapsed to smithereens."
>
>Lakoff himself is misled into misdescribing what happened to the
>Towers.
>
>"Metaphorically, tall buildings are people standing erect. As each
>tower fell, it became a body falling. … when we see a plane coming
>toward the building and imagine people in the building, we feel the
>plane coming toward us; when we see the building toppling toward
>others, we feel the building toppling toward us. … If we see the
>plane going through the building, and unconsciously we evoke the
>metaphor of the building as a head with the plane going through its
>temple, then we sense¾unconsciously but powerfully¾being shot through
>the temple. If we evoke the metaphor of the building as a person and
>see the building fall to the ground in pieces, then we sense¾again
>unconsciously but powerfully¾that we are falling to the ground in
>pieces." (54).
>
>Anyone who watched the news during VietNam, as Lakoff did, has seen a
>person being shot in the temple and falling to the ground; and they
>know that the person does not fall to the ground in pieces, much less
>disintegrate from the top down.
>
>This is what happened to the WTC buildings: they didn't topple; they
>disintegrated. When something falls down, it doesn't disintegrate, it
>just falls down, or collapses. When something burns up, it may
>disintegrate, but not in ten seconds. The only way to disintegrate
>massive concrete and steel buildings is by means of explosives, and
>that fact is apparent even to very frightened people.
>
>It was good to have Hoffman and S.P.I.N.E. showing that what the
>official story alleges is physically impossible; in fact, it was
>necessary in the beginning because people are often unwilling to
>trust their own judgment when it seems to be contradicted by experts
>and authorities.
>
>In the 1950s a psychology professor, Solomon Asch, did some
>experiments on college students. He told them that he wanted to test
>visual perception, but that was a lie. He had them sit in a classroom
>with other students and showed them all some lines, asking which
>lines looked like they were the same length, but only one student was
>really being tested. The others were conspirators along with
>Professor Asch, and they deliberately gave wrong answers. The student
>being tested was always asked last, after having heard all the others
>say that it looked to them like the wrong lines were the same length.
>The experiment was really to find out how many people,
>percentagewise, could be made to say that they saw what they didn't
>see, just to go along with the crowd. The answer was: about one third.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments
>
>Note that the pressure came only from their equals, other
>undergraduates, not from any authority figure such as the teacher.
>Suppose some crafty professor told his class that he was going to
>illustrate the nature of some visual illusions for them, and then
>showed them some unequal lines, saying that the appearance of
>inequality was an illusion¾the lines were really equal. He then puts
>out a bogus, but detailed, explanation of why the lines look unequal
>when they're not. How many of the class will be fooled? Probably
>quite a few; a majority, surely, if not all. What happened to the
>Towers looked like a controlled demolition, but of course it really
>wasn't. It couldn't have been, because the authorities, that is, the
>government and the $1.3 trillion media industry, said it wasn't. It
>may have looked like a missile hit the Pentagon and the abandoned
>strip mine in Pennsylvania, but of course what really happened was
>that a giant airliner, a Boeing 757 weighing 128,730 lbs. empty, hit
>those places and disappeared, according to some highly convoluted
>explanation.
>
>"Even though the facts which prove this to be so [that is, that they
>were lied to] may be brought clearly to their minds, they [the
>people] will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that
>there may be some other explanation."
>
>Hitler was certainly right when he said this. Bring the facts clearly
>to their minds, or even to their eyes; when the obvious is also the
>unthinkable, what are they to do? The function of
>government "experts" is to provide that "other explanation,"
>those "facts as we (would like to) see them" which will allow people
>to continue to think what they want to think, what they need to
>think, in spite of their own eyes.
>
>The point is that it is obvious that the Towers were exploded. Saying
>that they collapsed obscures this and shoots us in the foot. The
>Towers didn't "fall," or "come down," or "topple." They disintegrated
>from the top down, as anyone with eyes can see. Shock and awe are
>over now. It's time to start reframing the obvious as obvious.
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Can anyone come to defend Sheen on this outrageously horrendous blog?

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News Update from Citizens for Legitimate Government
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in Washington, D.C., was arrested this evening at his residence in Silver
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