Thursday, February 16, 2006

[911InsideJobbers] Independent UK about 9/11 plotline 'victim' Lotfi Raissi

....this is the guy which allegedly trained Lotfi Raissi, who officially
crashed into the pentagon on sep11th. Unfortunately Raissi is not willing
enough to connect the bigger dots and speak out....

http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article345818.ece
Lotfi Raissi: Life after 9/11
http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article345818.ece

... Do you remember Lotfi Raissi? For a few months in the aftermath of the
11 September terrorist atrocities, this Algerian pilot was considered by
many to be the most notorious criminal in the world, the man who had trained
the al-Qa'ida hijackers.

Twelve days after the attacks on New York and Washington, DC, Raissi was
arrested at his flat near Heathrow Airport, with his wife and brother...

...Raissi says he was particularly wounded by the fact that, at the time of
his arrest in September 2001, the media printed every allegation against him
as fact. But he would soon redress this injustice when he won a court action
against the Mail on Sunday, which alleged that Raissi had trained the 11
September hijackers and stolen the identity of a 74-year-old, too.

He won an apology, and "substantial" damages in the High Court in October
2003. But did it feel like a victory? "No, it was not a big moment for me,"
he says. "I was just doing what was right.

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[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1131

There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Larry Lawson & Tim White: Same person / Proof here
From: Eric May <captainmay@prodigy.net>
2. The Al Qaeda disinformer' s take on the whole world
From: "John Perna" <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
3. Re: Larry Lawson & Tim White: Same person / Proof here
From: "zionistexposer6f" <zionistexposer6f@yahoo.com>
4. Re: The Al Qaeda disinformer' s take on the whole world
From: "zionistexposer6f" <zionistexposer6f@yahoo.com>
5. Larry Lawson looks like Tim White because they both work for the same disinfo bo
From: "John Perna" <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
6. Calling Jolly!
From: "Greg Nixon" <nxngrg@yahoo.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:28:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric May <captainmay@prodigy.net>
Subject: Larry Lawson & Tim White: Same person / Proof here

Dear 911truthaction Group,

Since I've made the claim that this group has been infiltrated by White/Lawson, the barking from that individual (posting under two aliases -- and many others) has become a bit distracting.

As I've stated before, White/Lawson is part of an FBI-sponsored disruption operation, and maintains extensive contacts -- thrown out for "credentials" at various times -- with agents of the FBI, past (such as Ted Gunderson) and present (such as Mark Holstlaw). White/Lawson's aim is always the same: First, they infiltrate discussion groups or anti-Bush Regime groups as a "friend," passing along information that reaffirms the basic suppositions of the group. Next, scout the people making up the group, getting phone numbers, connections and developing profiles on who can be turned against whom. Finally, begin to attack members of the group deemed most effective in breaking down the Bush Regime's lies, pulling out all the plugs with wild accusations and red herrings, causing as big a disorientation as possible in the group.

White/Lawson is an internet termite, aiming at eating away at the structure of any effective discussion group. This accounts for why they spend their time in character attacks on the very people widely known to be most effective in the inforwar, accusing them of "conspiracy" with other forces, as if the folks who are breaking down the wall of Bush lies were interested in something else rather than pulling down Bush -- the mutual goal of all internet patriots.

As I've made an allegation that White/Lawson are the same person -- or at any rate, are both posting material written by one person -- I should back up the claim, and can do so easily. I am the moderator of my own Ghost Troop Group, as well as a member of yours, and was myself infiltrated by White/Lawson -- and by a half dozen or so other identities who turned out to be White/Lawson hiding behind other Yahoo! addresses. I include two examples below:

In this one, from 2/2/2006, Larry Lawson attacks in Ghost Troop Group, making it clear that he has adopted a fake identity to infiltrate and attack. This is the kind of thing that an agent working against Ghost Troop would do, but only a crazy would do otherwise: http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttroop/message/5201 You should note as you read that Lawson has the interesting idiosyncrasy of "shouting" with all-caps words:

This is Larry Lawson using this soon to be banned alias to share a
bit of LOGIC with those who want it here. It should be becoming
painfully obvious with those who have functioning neurons that Eric
is yet one more of those slobbering COINTELPRO LIARS sending out
smokescreens designed to get you to WASTE YOUR TIME!

You SHOULD be busy PREPARING for what is to come. Storing Water and
food and PRACTICING to shoot the empty heads of those LIKE Eric who
will soon be on your doorsteps looking to haul you to a FEMA
DETENTION camp Bush wants more of.

Hmm... The guy claiming to be the good guy looking out for folks is advising that they stop reading my work and instead start practicing to kill folks. That's Larry Lawson, aka Tim White. Incidentally, if you click on the link, you'll find that one of the reasons for the shouting rant is that he wants to defend the good name of Tim White.

Oh, about Tim White: In the link below you'll find that he is attacking Ghost Troop group under an assumed identity, after trying to egg various infowar activists into joining an attack with him -- and being thwarted. He had been identified as an agent, and rather than present any arguments to the contrary (which he couldn't), he engaged in the exact kind of "shouting" rant as Larry Lawson, protesting that he had been betrayed, not a betrayer. Standard disinfo/disruption tactics...

FINALLY-and get this FUCKING STRAIGHT.YOU BETRAYED
> ME----NOT the other way around--Capt Klown.Me
> ashamed??NOT HARDLY---it is YOU who is on the WRONG
> SIDE of FACTS.YOU have ZEEEEERO validity and
> credibility as YOU are a LIAR.Instead of assuaging my
> anger and defusing this-YOU chose to LIE about me
> further and it is NOW in a state of escalation.

You can catch the whole thing at: http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttroop/message/3110

Again, I figure that anyone who takes a word of what White/Lawson say seriously will want to do a search-engine check of "Ghost Troop Captain May" and ask himself or herself just why it is that a former military intelligence officer on a mission of conscience would be under attack. The answer is that Ghost Troop, my cyber-unit, has caught the Bush Boyz covering up the true US body count -- by a wide margin -- in Iraq, and is involved in analysis/prediction of the next 911 event. Those who take an interest in either of these things -- or in seeing who I am, for that matter -- should check out our main site at http://www.spiritone.com/~pazuu/pow-mia/GhostTroopCaptMay.htm, where they will find a fine bibliography of things that White/Lawson & FBI don't want you to read about. None of it has anything to do with anything except busting the Bush Boyz who employ trolls like White/Lawson to slow down the rate of our infowar.

As a final matter, White/Lawson have taken to challenging my rank of captain. That being the case, and their credibility depending on it, I urge the moderator of this group to send me a snail mail address. I will send documentation of my rank as a captain. I think that the best policy for the moderator is to suspend White/Lawson from the group on the strength of the evidence above, and await the final proof of the documents.

This denunciation of White/Lawson and the Bush Trolls, generally, is important to any group they have infiltrated, and should be distributed widely or posted for the internet public. We can't continue to waste time proving again and again that these folks are bad news, as there's too much important work to do! Regards, CPTMAY

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:42:25 -0000
From: "John Perna" <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
Subject: The Al Qaeda disinformer' s take on the whole world

Al Qaeda disinformer:
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Al Qaeda disinformer:
"Because he is a lying Zionist fraud, and he is going to hell!!!"

Who shot J. R.?
Al Qaeda disinformer:
"The Zionists!"

Who is to blame for hot weather?
Al Qaeda disinformer:
That Zionist: Sonshein!

Who is to blame for cold weather?
Al Qaeda disinformer:
That Zionist: old man Weinter!

Who is responsible for 911?
Al Qaeda disinformer:
Not Osama! Not Arabs! It was the Zionists!

Who is to blame for Mad Cow Disease?
Al Qaeda disinformer:
That Zionist: Hamberger!

Who sank the Titanic?
Al Qaeda disinformer:
That Zionist: Iceberg!

What caused the Tsunami?
Al Qaeda disinformer:
The Zionists!

Bed time stories from Al Qaeda disinformer:
"Mary had a little lamb.
Both Mary and the little lamb were white Christians.
Then the Zionists took the little lamb,
and made it into kosher lamb chops!!"

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:46:38 -0000
From: "zionistexposer6f" <zionistexposer6f@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Larry Lawson & Tim White: Same person / Proof here

Again May YOU ARE A MORON! Certainly you were NEVER 'intelligence'
It doesn't MATTER what addy a person uses, the IP information can't
be forged and doesn't LIE! When you click the 'VIEW SOURCE' TAB in
yahoo groups while viewing a message, the IP information will be
revealed. Today for example MORON, I'm posting from CCRTC in Indiana
instead of Bluemarble.

STILL IN INDIANA! Tim White who posts as phantom.... posts from
Colorado.

You truly ARE AS STUPID AS YOU LOOK!

Btw, again folks. My wife is a locally elected Auditor here and
that's as close as I come to 'government.' NOTE that Perna's posts
parrot PROPAGANDA and MORON May here pushes DISINFORMATION from Stew
Webb willingly.

Where's the TRUTH in 911TRUTHaction here???

Duh!

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Eric May <captainmay@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear 911truthaction Group,
>
> Since I've made the claim that this group has been infiltrated by
White/Lawson, the barking from that individual (posting under two
aliases -- and many others) has become a bit distracting.
>
> As I've stated before, White/Lawson is part of an FBI-sponsored
disruption operation, and maintains extensive contacts -- thrown out
for "credentials" at various times -- with agents of the FBI, past
(such as Ted Gunderson) and present (such as Mark Holstlaw).
White/Lawson's aim is always the same: First, they infiltrate
discussion groups or anti-Bush Regime groups as a "friend," passing
along information that reaffirms the basic suppositions of the
group. Next, scout the people making up the group, getting phone
numbers, connections and developing profiles on who can be turned
against whom. Finally, begin to attack members of the group deemed
most effective in breaking down the Bush Regime's lies, pulling out
all the plugs with wild accusations and red herrings, causing as big
a disorientation as possible in the group.
>
> White/Lawson is an internet termite, aiming at eating away at the
structure of any effective discussion group. This accounts for why
they spend their time in character attacks on the very people widely
known to be most effective in the inforwar, accusing them
of "conspiracy" with other forces, as if the folks who are breaking
down the wall of Bush lies were interested in something else rather
than pulling down Bush -- the mutual goal of all internet patriots.
>
> As I've made an allegation that White/Lawson are the same person -
- or at any rate, are both posting material written by one person --
I should back up the claim, and can do so easily. I am the moderator
of my own Ghost Troop Group, as well as a member of yours, and was
myself infiltrated by White/Lawson -- and by a half dozen or so other
identities who turned out to be White/Lawson hiding behind other
Yahoo! addresses. I include two examples below:
>
> In this one, from 2/2/2006, Larry Lawson attacks in Ghost Troop
Group, making it clear that he has adopted a fake identity to
infiltrate and attack. This is the kind of thing that an agent
working against Ghost Troop would do, but only a crazy would do
otherwise: http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttroop/message/5201
You should note as you read that Lawson has the interesting
idiosyncrasy of "shouting" with all-caps words:
>
> This is Larry Lawson using this soon to be banned alias to share
a
> bit of LOGIC with those who want it here. It should be becoming
> painfully obvious with those who have functioning neurons that Eric
> is yet one more of those slobbering COINTELPRO LIARS sending out
> smokescreens designed to get you to WASTE YOUR TIME!
>
> You SHOULD be busy PREPARING for what is to come. Storing Water
and
> food and PRACTICING to shoot the empty heads of those LIKE Eric who
> will soon be on your doorsteps looking to haul you to a FEMA
> DETENTION camp Bush wants more of.
>
> Hmm... The guy claiming to be the good guy looking out for folks
is advising that they stop reading my work and instead start
practicing to kill folks. That's Larry Lawson, aka Tim White.
Incidentally, if you click on the link, you'll find that one of the
reasons for the shouting rant is that he wants to defend the good
name of Tim White.
>
> Oh, about Tim White: In the link below you'll find that he is
attacking Ghost Troop group under an assumed identity, after trying
to egg various infowar activists into joining an attack with him --
and being thwarted. He had been identified as an agent, and rather
than present any arguments to the contrary (which he couldn't), he
engaged in the exact kind of "shouting" rant as Larry Lawson,
protesting that he had been betrayed, not a betrayer. Standard
disinfo/disruption tactics...
>
> FINALLY-and get this FUCKING STRAIGHT.YOU BETRAYED
> > ME----NOT the other way around--Capt Klown.Me
> > ashamed??NOT HARDLY---it is YOU who is on the WRONG
> > SIDE of FACTS.YOU have ZEEEEERO validity and
> > credibility as YOU are a LIAR.Instead of assuaging my
> > anger and defusing this-YOU chose to LIE about me
> > further and it is NOW in a state of escalation.
>
> You can catch the whole thing at:
http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/ghosttroop/message/3110
>
> Again, I figure that anyone who takes a word of what White/Lawson
say seriously will want to do a search-engine check of "Ghost Troop
Captain May" and ask himself or herself just why it is that a former
military intelligence officer on a mission of conscience would be
under attack. The answer is that Ghost Troop, my cyber-unit, has
caught the Bush Boyz covering up the true US body count -- by a wide
margin -- in Iraq, and is involved in analysis/prediction of the next
911 event. Those who take an interest in either of these things --
or in seeing who I am, for that matter -- should check out our main
site at http://www.spiritone.com/~pazuu/pow-
mia/GhostTroopCaptMay.htm, where they will find a fine bibliography
of things that White/Lawson & FBI don't want you to read about. None
of it has anything to do with anything except busting the Bush Boyz
who employ trolls like White/Lawson to slow down the rate of our
infowar.
>
> As a final matter, White/Lawson have taken to challenging my rank
of captain. That being the case, and their credibility depending on
it, I urge the moderator of this group to send me a snail mail
address. I will send documentation of my rank as a captain. I think
that the best policy for the moderator is to suspend White/Lawson
from the group on the strength of the evidence above, and await the
final proof of the documents.
>
> This denunciation of White/Lawson and the Bush Trolls, generally,
is important to any group they have infiltrated, and should be
distributed widely or posted for the internet public. We can't
continue to waste time proving again and again that these folks are
bad news, as there's too much important work to do! Regards, CPTMAY
>

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:49:24 -0000
From: "zionistexposer6f" <zionistexposer6f@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Al Qaeda disinformer' s take on the whole world

Again, Eric Huffschmidt, Author of "Painful Deceptions" and MANY
other 911 truthseekers point the finger DIRECTLY AT ZIONISTS.

And Again, Perna has consistently proven he IS one of them and he
posts government (arabs did it) PROPAGANDA!

Shoo fly!

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "John Perna"
<savefreed0m2oo3@...> wrote:
>
> Al Qaeda disinformer:
> Why did the chicken cross the road?
> Al Qaeda disinformer:
> "Because he is a lying Zionist fraud, and he is going to hell!!!"
>
> Who shot J. R.?
> Al Qaeda disinformer:
> "The Zionists!"
>
> Who is to blame for hot weather?
> Al Qaeda disinformer:
> That Zionist: Sonshein!
>
> Who is to blame for cold weather?
> Al Qaeda disinformer:
> That Zionist: old man Weinter!
>
> Who is responsible for 911?
> Al Qaeda disinformer:
> Not Osama! Not Arabs! It was the Zionists!
>
> Who is to blame for Mad Cow Disease?
> Al Qaeda disinformer:
> That Zionist: Hamberger!
>
> Who sank the Titanic?
> Al Qaeda disinformer:
> That Zionist: Iceberg!
>
> What caused the Tsunami?
> Al Qaeda disinformer:
> The Zionists!
>
> Bed time stories from Al Qaeda disinformer:
> "Mary had a little lamb.
> Both Mary and the little lamb were white Christians.
> Then the Zionists took the little lamb,
> and made it into kosher lamb chops!!"
>

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:49:09 -0000
From: "John Perna" <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Larry Lawson looks like Tim White because they both work for the same disinfo bo

Larry Lawson just looks like Tim White because they both work for the
same disinfo boss

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:01:51 -0000
From: "Greg Nixon" <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Calling Jolly!

Jolly,

I can spend all day taking out the garbage if it can come right back
in. I think we need to go to approved memberships for a few days.
Several disupters want to air their dispute ON LIST + need to BE OFF
LIST with no access.

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[911InsideJobbers] Maxim March issue covers S11


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"MAXIM MAGAZINE COVERS 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT!!!!

In an article called "What really brought down the towers" Maxim goes
over different theories like controlled demo, no plane at the
pentagon, hijackers turning up alive and other stuff. It features
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[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1130

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: No-WTC-Planes at 2/20 NYC ??
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
2. Urgent: Hold President Bush Accountable!
From: Marsha McClelland <Mofmars3@wmconnect.com>
3. RE: No-WTC-Planes at 2/20 NYC ??
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
4. Re: 106- (C) HTML - POWER OF INDIFFERENCE - 20041229-0300 - Response
From: "Percy" <percylltk@yahoo.com>
5. BOOsch Junta Slapstick Comedy
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
6. Notes from Readers - 10
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
7. everyone asked to digg loose change; 10s of thousands will see the link if you do
From: benjamin pritchard <ben@benjaminpritchard.name>
8. Eric Hufschmid Helps CONFIRM Alex Jones & GCN as ZIONIST Apologists!
From: Larry Lawson <h9tech_47460@yahoo.com>
9. The false patriot will spend most of his time attacking the defenders of liberty, under numerous pretenses.
From: John Perna <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
10. March for 9/11 Truth in NYC on President's Day - Interview with Greg Nixon
From: Cathy Garger <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com>
11. Perna describes his worthless past and lack of a life
From: "h9tech_47460" <h9tech_47460@yahoo.com>
12. Re: Such a Dang Shame
From: "Cathy Garger" <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com>
13. RE: Documentary
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
14. Throw a rock in a pen full of pigs: the one that squeals is the one that you hit
From: "John Perna" <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
15. WHY even call this group 'TRUTH' ACTION with the likes of Perna posting???
From: "zionistexposer5e" <zionistexposer5e@yahoo.com>
16. Ask your congressman to cosponsor H. R. 1146 to get out of the U. N.
From: John Perna <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
17. Shifting discussion from issue to messenger
From: John Perna <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
18. How many HERE would agree with these posts??
From: "zionistexposer5e" <zionistexposer5e@yahoo.com>
19. What an Al Qaeda disinformer would do
From: John Perna <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
20. Offlist maybe...But This is HYSTERICAL!!!!! Cheney's Got A Gun
From: Cathy Garger <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com>
21. Apparently 'Crypto-ZIONISTS' control this forum also!
From: "zionistexposer6f" <zionistexposer6f@yahoo.com>
22. Re: What an Al Qaeda disinformer would do
From: "zionistexposer6f" <zionistexposer6f@yahoo.com>
23. Three on Pimp/Whore Huddled-Masses Media
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
24. Re: What an Al Qaeda disinformer would do
From: "jessecrat" <jessecrat@yahoo.com>
25. Re: What an Al Qaeda disinformer would do
From: "John Perna" <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:44:12 -0800 (PST)
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: No-WTC-Planes at 2/20 NYC ??

Mark, I don't foresee how that would come up. I am going to ask Spitzer to resign, call Amy Goodman and her gatekeeper friends liars, and then tell Giuliani he belongs in jail ,NOT the White House. Period. Greg

Mark S Bilk <mark@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote: Greg,

Are you or others at the 2/20 event going to tell people
or the media that 767 planes did not hit the WTC towers?

Mark

On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 06:56:03AM -0800, greg nixon wrote:
>Pondo,
>
> please do call Ralph.
>
> Ask around about the Camp Ground Zero, I think MSM would castrate us as disgracing the dead. maybe too touchy.
>
>"President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org> wrote:
> Dear Greg,
>Hey, that dream isn't even slightly crazy!
>Highest regards,
>Pondo
>
>PS: Is there one more RalphSchoenman/MyaShone show on WBAI before
>2/20? If so, maybe they'll give you some time on it. I have an
>e-address for Ralph plus probably can still dig out a phone number for
>him.
>
>On Feb 15, 2006, at 8:41 AM, greg nixon wrote:
>
>> NY9/11 called and will be in attendance for 2/20 NYC.
>> Â
>> I had a crazy dream last night that we all climbed over the fence and
>> began occupying the huge hole as a campground and would not leave
>> until the media addressed us.
>>
>> Cathy Garger wrote:
>> Gee Shucks! Too bad they couldn't've waited till Monday to take this
>> pic, huh? The guy from the Netherlands wanted to see a big group of
>> people, but I guess that the NYC truth folks must've forgotten
>> all about the party at GZ Monday morning, Feb 20, Prez. Day.... Guess
>> it just slipped their minds???
>> Â
>> SATURDAY AT GROUND ZERO
>>
>> We're getting more media attention! A news producer from a Netherlands
>> TV station wants to film us at Ground Zero. However, he says that to
>> give the right impression, he wants to see a big group of people
>> there. I told him, sure, no problem. So this coming Saturday lets get
>> 40-50 people there. If the Falun Gong people can create a strong
>> street presence and be seen by everybody, shouldn't we? Be there no
>> later than 1 PM. As always, the weather has to be clear and
>> temperature no lower than 25 degrees. Just think, we'll be helping to
>> educate a European country about the reality of 9/11, the military
>> agenda the attacks enabled, and the whole range of consequences we've
>> been subjected to.
>>
>>
>>
>> news@list.ny911truth.org wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> We apologize to anyone who didn't get word that yesterday's event at
>> St. Marks Church was postponed due to the blizzard. I know most did.
>> We'll resume next Sunday.
>>
>> STRATEGY SESSION
>>
>> We'll meet Wed., 7 PM, at the deli at 13th St. and 5th Avenue in the
>> upstairs level. We'll continue working on new visual displays. We'll
>> put finishing touches in place for the legislative action campaign.
>> We'll work on our 2 minute presentation, basic talking points, and how
>> to deal with challenges.
>>
>> ABLE DANGER HEARING
>>
>> After a few months of waiting, the news is out that the Able Danger
>> Hearing will happen on Wednesday at
>>
>> http://www.abledangerblog.com
>>
>> Lou Dobbs, on CNN at 6 PM, gave Able Danger regular coverage in
>> December. He'll have Curt Weldon on Wed. evening, and more coverage
>> Thurs. and Fri.
>>
>> If we had a week's notice we could have organized a group to go down.
>> However, Kyle Hence will be there and hopefully some local DC folks.
>> If anybody else can go, by all means get there. Here's a message from
>> Curt Weldon who has convened the hearings which contains details.
>>
>> The following message was sent out today to those who have contacted
>> Weldon's office regarding Able Danger:
>>
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time over the past few months to contact me
>> regarding the Able Danger - a Department of Defense planning effort
>> prior to 9/11 tasked to identify and target the linkages and
>> relationships of Al-Qaeda worldwide. Your voice has played a crucial
>> role in getting 248 Members of Congress to ask for Congressional
>> Hearings. I wanted to update you about the progress that has been made
>> on Able Danger with your help.
>>
>>
>> First, I would like to thank the House Armed Services Committee
>> Chairman Duncan Hunter for his leadership in pursuing Able Danger
>> hearings, as well as Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England for
>> his support on behalf of the Pentagon.
>>
>>
>> Following a long congressional recess where staff was busy preparing
>> for this hearing, I am pleased to announce that on Wednesday, 15
>> February 2006 at 2:30 p.m. in 2118 Rayburn House Office Building, the
>> House Armed Services Strategic Forces and Terrorism, Unconventional
>> Threats and Capabilities Subcommittees have tentatively scheduled a
>> joint hearing for open and closed testimony on the Able Danger effort.
>> Witnesses have not yet been scheduled as interviews are ongoing. A
>> complete list of witnesses should be available by close of business on
>> Monday, February 13, 2006.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your ongoing interest. I would ask that you communicate
>> with your Member of Congress and express how important Able Danger
>> hearings are and thank them for their support. I will continue to keep
>> you updated as hearings progress.
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>> Curt Weldon
>>
>>
>> MEMBER OF CONGRESS
>>
>>
>> 7th District of Pennsylvania
>>
>>
>> SATURDAY AT GROUND ZERO
>>
>> We're getting more media attention! A news producer from a Netherlands
>> TV station wants to film us at Ground Zero. However, he says that to
>> give the right impression, he wants to see a big group of people
>> there. I told him, sure, no problem. So this coming Saturday lets get
>> 40-50 people there. If the Falun Gong people can create a strong
>> street presence and be seen by everybody, shouldn't we? Be there no
>> later than 1 PM. As always, the weather has to be clear and
>> temperature no lower than 25 degrees. Just think, we'll be helping to
>> educate a European country about the reality of 9/11, the military
>> agenda the attacks enabled, and the whole range of consequences we've
>> been subjected to.
>>
>> BLOG BRIGADE
>>
>> Is there anyone out there who is heaving into blogging? We're looking
>> for people who visit and post to blogs to create our own 9/11 Blog
>> Brigade. This will be an important and effective outreach group that
>> will help us "become the media". You would cover 5 blogs and post
>> breaking 9/11 related news. I'll bet at least a few of you are doing
>> this already. So get in touch ASAP and we'll get organized.
>>
>> As a reminder, to correspond please contact me directly at
>> jazzyday@earthlink.net. Do not mail to this list, which is just for
>> announcements.
>>
>> Truth will prevail,
>>
>> Les
>> _______________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:05:17 -0800
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
Subject: RE: No-WTC-Planes at 2/20 NYC ??

That sounds good to me.

Keep it simple, in easy to digest bytes for all.

That will be controversial enough to help open doors.

-----Original Message-----
From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of greg nixon
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:44 AM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] No-WTC-Planes at 2/20 NYC ??

Mark, I don't foresee how that would come up. I am going to ask Spitzer to
resign, call Amy Goodman and her gatekeeper friends liars, and then tell
Giuliani he belongs in jail ,NOT the White House. Period. Greg

Mark S Bilk <mark@cosmicpenguin.com> wrote:
Greg,

Are you or others at the 2/20 event going to tell people
or the media that 767 planes did not hit the WTC towers?

Mark

On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 06:56:03AM -0800, greg nixon wrote:
>Pondo,
>
> please do call Ralph.
>
> Ask around about the Camp Ground Zero, I think MSM would castrate us as
disgracing the dead. maybe too touchy.
>
>"President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org> wrote:
> Dear Greg,
>Hey, that dream isn't even slightly crazy!
>Highest regards,
>Pondo
>
>PS: Is there one more RalphSchoenman/MyaShone show on WBAI before
>2/20? If so, maybe they'll give you some time on it. I have an
>e-address for Ralph plus probably can still dig out a phone number for
>him.
>
>On Feb 15, 2006, at 8:41 AM, greg nixon wrote:
>
>> NY9/11 called and will be in attendance for 2/20 NYC.
>> Â
>> I had a crazy dream last night that we all climbed over the fence and
>> began occupying the huge hole as a campground and would not leave
>> until the media addressed us.
>>
>> Cathy Garger wrote:
>> Gee Shucks! Too bad they couldn't've waited till Monday to take this
>> pic, huh? The guy from the Netherlands wanted to see a big group of
>> people, but I guess that the NYC truth folks must've forgotten
>> all about the party at GZ Monday morning, Feb 20, Prez. Day..! ..
Guess
>> it just slipped their minds???
>> Â
>> SATURDAY AT GROUND ZERO
>>
>> We're getting more media attention! A news producer from a Netherlands
>> TV station wants to film us at Ground Zero. However, he says that to
>> give the right impression, he wants to see a big group of people
>> there. I told him, sure, no problem. So this coming Saturday lets get
>> 40-50 people there. If the Falun Gong people can create a strong
>> street presence and be seen by everybody, shouldn't we? Be there no
>> later than 1 PM. As always, the weather has to be clear and
>> temperature no lower than 25 degrees. Just think, we'll be helping to
>> educate a European country about the reality of 9/11, the military
>> agenda the attacks enabled, and the whole range of consequences we've
>> been subjected to.
>>
>>
>>
>&g! t; news@list.ny911truth.org wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> We apologize to anyone who didn't get word that yesterday's event at
>> St. Marks Church was postponed due to the blizzard. I know most did.
>> We'll resume next Sunday.
>>
>> STRATEGY SESSION
>>
>> We'll meet Wed., 7 PM, at the deli at 13th St. and 5th Avenue in the
>> upstairs level. We'll continue working on new visual displays. We'll
>> put finishing touches in place for the legislative action campaign.
>> We'll work on our 2 minute presentation, basic talking points, and how
>> to deal with challenges.
>>
>> ABLE DANGER HEARING
>>
>> After a few months of waiting, the news is out that the Able Danger
>> Hearing will happen on Wednesday at
>>
>> http://www.abledangerblog.com <http://www.abledangerblog.com/>
>>
&g! t;> Lou Dobbs, on CNN at 6 PM, gave Able Danger regular coverage in
>> December. He'll have Curt Weldon on Wed. evening, and more coverage
>> Thurs. and Fri.
>>
>> If we had a week's notice we could have organized a group to go down.
>> However, Kyle Hence will be there and hopefully some local DC folks.
>> If anybody else can go, by all means get there. Here's a message from
>> Curt Weldon who has convened the hearings which contains details.
>>
>> The following message was sent out today to those who have contacted
>> Weldon's office regarding Able Danger:
>>
>>
>> Thank you for taking the time over the past few months to contact me
>> regarding the Able Danger - a Department of Defense planning effort
>> prior to 9/11 tasked to identify and target the linkages and
>> relationships of Al-Qaeda worldwide. Your voice has played! a crucial
>> role in getting 248 Members of Congress to ask for Congressional
>> Hearings. I wanted to update you about the progress that has been made
>> on Able Danger with your help.
>>
>>
>> First, I would like to thank the House Armed Services Committee
>> Chairman Duncan Hunter for his leadership in pursuing Able Danger
>> hearings, as well as Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England for
>> his support on behalf of the Pentagon.
>>
>>
>> Following a long congressional recess where staff was busy preparing
>> for this hearing, I am pleased to announce that on Wednesday, 15
>> February 2006 at 2:30 p.m. in 2118 Rayburn House Office Building, the
>> House Armed Services Strategic Forces and Terrorism, Unconventional
>> Threats and Capabilities Subcommittees have tentatively scheduled a
>> joint hearing for ope! n and closed testimony on the Able Danger effort.
>> Witnesses have not yet been scheduled as interviews are ongoing. A
>> complete list of witnesses should be available by close of business on
>> Monday, February 13, 2006.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your ongoing interest. I would ask that you communicate
>> with your Member of Congress and express how important Able Danger
>> hearings are and thank them for their support. I will continue to keep
>> you updated as hearings progress.
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>> Curt Weldon
>>
>>
>> MEMBER OF CONGRESS
>>
>>
>> 7th District of Pennsylvania
>>
>>
>> SATURDAY AT GROUND ZERO
>>
>> We're getting more media attention! A news producer from a Netherlands
>> TV station wants to film us a! t Ground Zero. However, he says that to
>> give the right impression, he wants to see a big group of people
>> there. I told him, sure, no problem. So this coming Saturday lets get
>> 40-50 people there. If the Falun Gong people can create a strong
>> street presence and be seen by everybody, shouldn't we? Be there no
>> later than 1 PM. As always, the weather has to be clear and
>> temperature no lower than 25 degrees. Just think, we'll be helping to
>> educate a European country about the reality of 9/11, the military
>> agenda the attacks enabled, and the whole range of consequences we've
>> been subjected to.
>>
>> BLOG BRIGADE
>>
>> Is there anyone out there who is heaving into blogging? We're looking
>> for people who visit and post to blogs to create our own 9/11 Blog
>> Brigade. This will be an important and effective outreach grou! p that
>> will help us "become the media". You would cover 5 blogs and post
>> breaking 9/11 related news. I'll bet at least a few of you are doing
>> this already. So get in touch ASAP and we'll get organized.
>>
>> As a reminder, to correspond please contact me directly at
>> jazzyday@earthlink.net. Do not mail to this list, which is just for
>> announcements.
>>
>> Truth will prevail,
>>
>> Les
>> _______________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:33:56 -0500
From: "Percy" <percylltk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 106- (C) HTML - POWER OF INDIFFERENCE - 20041229-0300 - Response

Greetings Jacques,

Good afternoon.

I hope this finds you well, in good spirit and enjoying a peaceful and
productive day.

I thank-you for your article which in my humble opinion gets right to the
heart of the matter; “human indifference”.

In my humble opinion you are absolutely correct in placing the blame for the
crimes of this government and the atrocities they commit, under the guise of
bring Demo-cracy to two sovereign nations (with plans for a third), on the
apathetic people of Amerika and others for not stopping their Zion-Nazi
criminal activities. How long do you think God (the Ruler of this Universe)
is going to put up with this evil and our apathy? So we had best do what
Rocky Ward is quoted as saying below and get up off our back-side and take
this government back.

http://i.am/jah/plan.htm

There are a few of us worldwide who do believe in True Remedy
<http://i.am/jah/plan.htm> for defeating the New World Order that will
bring everlasting Freedom, Justice and Liberty for All and for the last 5
years we collectively have been promoting The Plan
<http://i.am/jah/plan.htm> (http://i.am/jah/plan.htm), which I fully
believe is the ONLY Solution to the evil tyranny we face now. I urge and
hope that you will make the time to carefully study The Plan
<http://i.am/jah/plan.htm> (http://i.am/jah/plan.htm), come to agree with
The Author <http://i.am/jah/mal4.htm> (http://i.am/jah/mal4.htm), and help
to promote it to your readership so that we can enforce The Plan
<http://i.am/jah/plan.htm> , take back this country, rid the world of these
selfish evil despotic tyrants and get back to the business of living right.

The ONLY solution is to enforce The Plan against the traitorous N.W.O.
Zion-Nazi bankster mass-murder, inside-job perpetrators of OKC, 911 and the
phoney War on Terror, and reinstate God’s Perfect Royal Laws of Liberty:-
http://i.am/jah/plan.htm

Time is running out:- http://i.am/jah/signs.htm

Long live the Fighters (for God),

Percy

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http://defeatnwo.blogspot.com <http://defeatnwo.blogspot.com/>

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Should we be indifferent to what is going on in the devil's
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This may be the first time that you are reading one of my articles. My
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Science & Vie. The current series started in September 2003, in English on
the Internet. As an example, I am sending you below an old one. They come
out once a week.

The point is that in my scale of priorities, patriotism and nationalist
tendencies must come as a small number TWO while HUMANITY should definitely
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FINAL EDITION

URGENT:

IRAQI RESISTANCE STATEMENT AT THE OTHER END

THE POWER OF

I N D I F F E R E N C E

First I am going to contradict all that follows! But there is nothing
really surprising in that. Humanity is full of contradictions (MAYBE THAT
IS WHY IT IS IN SUCH A MESS). My basic idea is that we tend to be
indifferent to what is going on among Government circles. That is what I
say! But then how come that when I started writing this kind of stuff,
about two years ago, I hoped to have 100 readers... Now I have 954 direct
readers (going up day by day), some of them quite active, plus an untold
number of other indirect readers since my stuff is being reproduced and
reprinted again and again (and again) everywhere. For me, this is a sure
sign that people DO care! Maybe they are not sheep after all, but tigers (in
disguise?). Maybe they do want to survive dear George's Armageddon (I am
beginning to like the creep... properly cooked and with French fries).
Maybe you guys, are not indifferent at all... juste carefull !!! (can't
blame you)

You have to understand that the matter is not the same for you, young
fellows (below 65) and for us old goats (70 to 100). For us you see, we know
that our days are numbered: whether from old age, a hail of machine gun
bullets or poison from George's men or whatever, we have had it. But you,
young fellows, under 65, you are still hoping to live to a ripe "old age"
and, surprise, you apparently seem to understand that there is a deadly
problem in Washington D.C. But it is just that Satan, in his Washington
D.C. kitchen, does not see it that way.

More and more (and more) people are being murdered: shot, poisoned,
bludgeoned, etc. both in the US and abroad by plutocratic agents. Their
death is usually quickly ruled a suicide! This title for instance from
truththatweknow@yahoo.com:

KELLY WAS MURDERED, END OF STORY

( Vice Foster, just like lady Di, Arafatt and Gary Webb)

but what this title does not say is that it is not at all the exceptions
that are murdered by the Washington D.C. enemies of Humanity. All witnesses
- hundreds and hundreds of them, are routinely murdered everywhere in the
name of American "patriotism" (the Empire!) and this is done by the FBI, CIA
and other agents belonging to one of the over 20 secret, (so-called)
intelligence agencies, active in the name of the American people! Never in
history could murders of such a magnitude be committed. If is now
happening, it is thanks to the INDIFFERENCE of the potential victims: first
off, the ordinary American people: the largest herd of sheep in the world
who, as good patriots, are offering their own meat for the preparation of
the Plutocrats' banquet. (Pass the salt please).

There is really no need to make a thorough analysis of history nor make
long and tedious quotations to agree that ever since Human society exists,
it is thanks to the indifference, apathy and passiveness of the many that
the few have managed to seize power, hence full control of public affairs
for their own selfish and greedy ends. It has long been said that we learn
from history that we learn nothing from history!

The reason for this is that we human beings tend to be lazy, lazy both
mentally and physically. Some of us are neither, true enough. And even
these active guys on the contrary, turn out to be super active either
mentally or physically... or both, but then it is usually because they are
inspired by greed and selfishness and there is enough evidence to suggest
that these two terrible factors have a genetic origin.

Yes, today most people will agree that the two main enemies of humanity
are greed and selfishness. Nevertheless, there is this third factor,
INDIFFERENCE, which is most important since it allows greed and selfishness
to flourish.

When the 9/11 tragedy occurred in NY, I saw right there on television,
planes one after the other hitting the buildings, It was obvious that it
was a terrorist plot... obviously Islamic terrorists (gasp!).

But later, it became quite clear that the terrorists were - and could
not be any other than the government of the United States. Proof after
proof came out implicating one felon after the other. So, although at
first, we were told that 99 out of 100 Americans thought that Islam was the
culprit... thus justifying a lucrative war against Iraq, suddenly it was
discovered that the American people were not THAT foolish!

It turned out that, except possibly for backward places in Southern US
(such as Texas), 9 out of 10 Americans soon understood that the US
governement HAD to be involved in the 9/11 disaster: too much expertise and
technology was involved. Therefore Saddam was innocent, Osamah was at worst
George's accomplice... but then every American person should also be
considered an accomplice of its evil governement.

Now the figure of convinced people has rather grown to become 99% who
think their Government did it (although many do not dare say it aloud... and
some do not care). All this is interesting but what do people do in
response? Nothing! Because they are so-called "patriots", meaning
sheep... accomplices!

As a matter of fact, the way the US is governed, it is presently
putting the entire Humanity to shame... and at risk! Is that new? Certainly
not, see the two following quotations and wonder: WHAT WAS DONE ABOUT IT?
Again, exactly nothing. On the contrary, things kept getting worse!

It is a tragic mix-up when the United States spends $500,000 for every enemy
soldier killed, and only $53 annually on the victims of poverty: Martin
Luther King, Jr: 1929-1968

"Cowardice asks the question: is it safe? Expediency asks the question: is
it politic? Vanity asks the question: is it popular? But conscience asks the
question: is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position
that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular- but one must take it simply
because it is right." : Martin Luther King Jr. 1929-1968

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These guys have often really good quotations. They and some others give
one the feeling that there are some good guys in the States... but why are
they waiting so long to overthrow the plutocracy???

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By the way, what did Martin Luther King get as his reward? DEATH by a
plutocratic agent !

What did Kennedy get for wanting to stop the war against Latin America?
DEATH by a plutocratic agent!

Now STOP and think for a moment about this: Aren't there too many of
us saying that something has to be done but not enough of us doing it.
Isn't that typically human?

Now allow me to be more direct. If you, who reads this, you are an
American citizen, then you are criminally guilty of allowing yourself to be
governed by a bunch of murderers who target hospitals, doctors, women,
children and wounded civilians. If you are not an American, then you are
guilty of allowing that evil empire to exist. Moreover, note that Bush in
full TV said: "We don't target civilians" even though he was fully aware of
the contrary! (DIDN'T I TELL YOU HE WAS WORSE THAN A DENTIST)

NEED PROOF ? WELL, USE THIS LINK AND READ RENOWNED NAOMI KLEIN'S ARTICLE
IN THE GUARDIAN (UK) WHICH WAS A RESPONSE TO US EMBASSY LIES:

http://www.rense.com/general60/dead.htm

Once you have done this, repent and be ashamed of yourself. Go hide
under the table.

A BRIEF REVIEW OF ANOTHER AMERICAN DISASTER: THE ELECTIONS

Many people have expressed surprise to see Kerry losing the elections
and they noted moreover that he did not seem to be very keen on winning in
the first place. Why?

Let's review the facts:

To start with, it has been shown that in America, like in Americanized
Russia, Australia, Italy, and some other countries, it is the upper wealthy
class... the plutocrats, who rule and decide who will be president. And
there was never any doubt that both Bush and Kerry were in the pay of the
plutocrats. (ADDED BY L. J. in Oz.: One of the reasons the wealthy class
rules is because they have the financial backing to support them. An
ordinary man without funds could not possibly afford to 'rule')

However, there was a real danger that Kerry be elected instead of Bush
because too many Americans are against war and terrorism and they are
identifying Bush with both. However, didn't you notice that BOTH Bush and
Kerry were basically in favour of war and world domination?

It was therefore almost the same for the plutocrats: It did not matter
whether one or the other won, just as long as another candidate didn't!
But they were hesitating between those two felons because they thought that
Bush being more war-like, diabolical and obsessed with his Armageddon
scenario, he would surely bring more money to the Military-Industrial
establishment than Kerry. But with Bush, there was a danger that he would
eventually succeed in bringing total destruction, not only to the rest of
the world but also to the US, a prospect somewhat less interesting.

In the end, the plutocrats decided for Bush (money talks). After all,
many, many billions of dollars of war profits were involved. So, Bush won.
Now, FIRST isn't it clear to almost everybody that the election was fixed,
rigged, with more votes cast than there were electors! SECOND, aren't there
numerous reports and articles that were published indicating that Kerry had
been paid a fabulous amount of money for his role as a loser! Wasn't he
surprisingly fast in conceding the election? (that was a fatal error showing
his plutocratic subservience).

In other words, the American people have been fooled as usual, but this
time, the whole world will have to pay for it (including the American people
mind you). The only persons who might hope to survive the American folly
are - maybe - those who live in Alice Springs, in the middle of Australia or
in some distant parts of Siberia.

Largely thanks to the Bush family, Nazi ideology is now everywhere in
the United States: that is the current threat. Replace Bush by another? No
use! You will get another Nazi in his place. The only way to solve America
(and the world) problems is to clean out ALL manifestations of Nazi
ideology... and that means getting rid of the plutocrats who are in power,
sitting in Washington and laughing at you!

In a letter just received from the US, letter that is no longer here,
hence no longer available to any Bushist police, a person, obviously a true
humanist even if an anonymous one, said among other correct and true things:

"ANY AMERICAN WHO REMAINS INDIFFERENT TO THE CRIMES COMMITTED IN SO MANY
PARTS OF THE WORLD BY THE US GOVERNMENT AND ITS EVIL MILITARY AND SPIES,
DOES NOT DESERVE TO BELONG ANY LONGER TO HUMANITY BUT MUST PERISH AND MAY
THE FIRES OF HELL BURN HIM (OR HER) FOR ALL ETERNITY." (Colour, emphasis and
grammar are mine though).

Myself, I wonder if this is not a little strong, nevertheless I feel
that it is my duty to transmit the message. True, most foreigners (e.g. in
Eastern Europe, etc) are not allowed any access to non American-approved
news, so this will go over their head, but by now the majority of Americans
are well aware of what is going on in their own country. Some of these say
"Well, war is like that" and then think about something else. Obviously
they haven't a clue of what war is like and even less what it is for, nor
WHO profits by it! They never tried it, see! They are too busy making
money . . .

But here is one comment that is signed. It is short, to the point and
without ambiguity:

"Get off your ass and take your government back." ~Rocky Ward

_____

The American people are not the only guilty party in all this. For
you, people of the world, whether you live in Western Europe, Eastern
Europe, Asia or elsewhere, don't you dare think for one minute that you
have the right to be indifferent: YOU DON'T!

On the contrary, you have the duty to help humanity surmount this
terrible crisis caused by Washington D.C. and which is expected to grow A
LOT WORSE! We are all ONE big family, believe it or not, and we are
responsible for each other. It is the duty of everybody on earth to do HIS
or HER bit to save Humanity from the catastrophe that the Washington Mafia
is preparing.

You see, Bush is a mad man who thinks that God has entrusted him with
the mission to destroy the world and that is precisely the reason why the
plutocrats hand-picked him to govern the USA: with Bush at the helm, peace
is no longer threatening Capital. So whether the felon does destroy YOU or
not, it is really YOUR responsibility. Right now the US has managed to
infiltrate and subvert almost all important governments in the world,
therefore these governments refuse to do anything to correct the
situation...

Well now, you know what to do. But do it now BECAUSE SOON, IT WILL BE
TOO LATE.

The divine punishment for human indifference is death and then burning
in hell for all eternity... and that is a long time!

See here what another American has to say (in his own words):

Hello Jacques. Must thank you for your article, thank goodness there are
people who expose the hypocrites. I am a non-believer atheist, but I am
agnostic to what people want to believe in, my politics are far left, I
loathe capitalism, the only benefits you get from that system are watching
the rich getting RICHER and the POOR getting POORER, SO THANK YOU FOR
KEEPING MY FEET ON THE GROUND. A.G.

_____

CALLING EVERYBODY: the clock is ticking, you have to hurry ! . . .

WHO IS GUILTY ?

George W. Bush is a case for the loony bin, therefore being mentally
sick, he is not guilty. He only needs to be locked up in a secure cage.
But so, in the final anlysis, who is guilty? who is going to pay the
ultimate price? . . . WE ALL ARE !

But! But! But who is responsible? Isn't there some scapegoat somewhere
that we can hang or crucify in our place? I guess not! Look at it this
way:

Sure enough, the US Government, who is planning and financing terrorist
acts everywhere, is GUILTY. But the US government is above the law, acting
in the name of the ordinary Americans. Rigged elections? Quite probably,
but then all ordinary Americans who refuse to overthrow those unwanted
Washington terrorists are GUILTY!

Worse yet, all foreign nations who refuse to turn their guns against the
American terrorists are GUILTY, and let's remember that those foreign
governments are also representing their ordinary citizens, hence... these
are GUILTY! True, everyone knows that those governments are corrupt and in
the pay of the Washington plutocratic terrorists. But then, it is the duty
of all those ordinary citizens to promptly rise and overthrow their evil
leaders!

And why are they not doing just that? Because they are INDIFFERENT to
what is going on. Now as we can see, all the people everywhere who are
INDIFFERENT to what is going on are GUILTY.

True again, the "embedded" journalists, the silent MEDIA, the false
witnesses world-wide, are also GUILTY. But one crime cannot justify another
and it is not because most journalists are disgusting son-of-a-bitches that
we all must be that too, Hence, no doubt about it, we are all GUILTY.

In fact, it takes a very, very sick humanity to tolerate even the
existence of this American terrorist system.

Something ought to be done and it better be quick, or else HUMANITY will
soon be no more!

TO GEORGE, WITH LOVE

For whatever reason, dear George does not like me... I can't understand
why though. Anyway, from now on, my messages will be, maybe, mailed
somewhat irregularly... meant for one date and sent at another date. Sorry
about that. You see, George is not pleased with my writings... the writings
of a senile old guy who does not know what is right (the Republicans) from
what is left (the Democrats)... who has even trouble remembering that
Abraham Lincoln COMMANDED the American people to revolt against the
plutocrats.

Can you imagine young, strong George (you know the GREAT George) fearing
an old half crippled like me, 76 years old (soon 77 even... provided George
allows me to live that long - I doubt it). Moreover, the plutocratic enemy
knows all about me. Over there, they have a big extensive file about me,
therefore they also know that I am going to be dead from one minute to the
next: can't they just be patient and wait a sec (please). Then I won't
bother them any more and they will be FREE to destroy the world (after all
isn't that George's Satanic mission?).

And then the herd of American sheep can be slaughtered and become the
meat for the plutocrats' banquet. (at this point, Dr Guillotin was too
disgusted and he went back to Paris)

Isn't it sickening how history is repeating itself. During the short
historical period of Human emergence, we see that everywhere, great
civilisations like in Central and South America, Egypt and so on, came and
disappeared, sometimes fast, sometimes slowly but in practically every case,
the common deciding factor has been the indifference of the masses.

It would have been so easy for thousands of people to put their evil
leaders to death... but they didn't. They preferred to allow themselves to
be fooled, indoctrinated, brainwashed into submissiveness and then
destroyed. We, human beings are like that!

PROOF: Don't you remember that religious sect somewhere in the US that
managed to persuade hundreds of people to move to Guyana, there to commit a
collective suicide. At that time, people said 'How can anyone be so
foolish" Actually that statement IS the error. Because, given the right
pep talk, by the properly motivated person whether he has an evil smirk like
George or a moustache like Adolf, people will follow the leader like a herd
of bison eager to jump off a cliff.

Can then disaster not be prevented? Sure, it can. All it takes is ONE
PERSON (not even two), male or female, with four characteristics:

(1) Be motivated,

(2) Be a charming talker, able to stir the masses,

(3) Know exactly the task to accomplish,

(4) Start NOW, not later.

What about the demonstrations for peace, against war? What about about
the demands to arrest Bush for war crimes? USELESS AS PREDICTED because
there is no logical reason why those childish games should succeed.

Indeed, don't the plutocrats have the money, the guns and the knowledge
of how to manipulate and deceive the masses.

To counter this you need, not thousands of people but hundreds of
thousands of them. People who understand that they need to get rid, not of
Bush at all but of the evil Bush-producing system:

A system where the wealthy believe they are above the law.

A system that calls injustice "Justice", slavery "Freedom" and plutocracy
"Democracy".

A system that condemns the innocent and rewards the guilty.

A system that is solidly rooted in corruption and crime.

A system that fails to educate the young and assist the sick.

A system that is fully self-destructive, true, but a system that also plans
to destroy the rest of the world.

Jacques Hardy

Canada

P.S.: THIS IS BEING MAILED TO 739 UNDISCLOSED RECIPIENTS... NOW, IF
ANYBODY SAYS THAT I COMMITTED SUICIDE, DON'T BELIEVE A SINGLE WORD OF IT:
IT WILL SIMPLY BE ANOTHER CASE OF MURDER BY PLUTOCRATIC AGENTS. (THEY ARE
NOT THROUGH WITH ME YET, SEE)

FOR RESEARCH AND EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY

THIS IS A PERSONAL OPINION, WHICH YOU CAN REPRODUCE, PUBLISH OR DELETE
AS YOU SEE FIT, AND YOU ARE ALSO FREE TO CONGRATULATE ME, IGNORE ME OR
CONDEMN ME FOR SUPPORTING THE FEW HONEST AMERICANS WHO WANT TO PUT A STOP TO
THE PLUTOCRATIC MURDERING RAMPAGE.

N. B. : My stuff is never copyrighted, so you can use it as you wish FOR the
benefit of MANKIND / HUMANITY and AGAINST narrow, selfish, nationalistic
interests.

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YOUR NAME WAS REFERRED TO ME AS BEING A PERSON INTERESTED IN THE EVOLUTION
AND FUTURE OF HUMAN SOCIETY, BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT ME TO WRITE TO YOU, IF
HUMANITY LEAVES YOU INDIFFERENT, PLEASE SAY SO AND I WILL STOP AT ONCE.

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THIS IRAQI RESISTANCE STATEMENT WAS RECEIVED HERE THANKS TO

GARY ZATZMAN

[The following may also be viewed at
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7468.htm
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A Statement from the Iraq Resistance

Iraqi Resistance speech on videotape December 13 2004
Rush transcript-
Title: Communiqué Number 6
The media platoon of the Islamic Jihad Army. On the 27th of Shawal 1425h. 10
December 2004

People of the world! These words come to you from those who up to the day of
the invasion were struggling to survive under the sanctions imposed by the
criminal regimes of the U.S. and Britain.

We are simple people who chose principles over fear.

We have suffered crimes and sanctions, which we consider the true weapons of
mass destruction.

Years and years of agony and despair, while the condemned UN traded with our
oil revenues in the name of world stability and peace.

Over two million innocents died waiting for a light at the end of a tunnel
that only ended with the occupation of our country and the theft of our
resources.

After the crimes of the administrations of the U.S and Britain in Iraq, we
have chosen our future. The future of every resistance struggle ever in the
history of man.

It is our duty, as well as our right, to fight back the occupying forces,
which their nations will be held morally and economically responsible; for
what their elected governments have destroyed and stolen from our land.

We have not crossed the oceans and seas to occupy Britain or the U.S. nor
are we responsible for 9/11. These are only a few of the lies that these
criminals present to cover their true plans for the control of the energy
resources of the world, in face of a growing China and a strong unified
Europe. It is Ironic that the Iraqi's are to bear the full face of this
large and growing conflict on behalf of the rest of this sleeping world.

We thank all those, including those of Britain and the U.S., who took to the
streets in protest against this war and against Globalism. We also thank
France, Germany and other states for their position, which least to say are
considered wise and balanced, til now.

Today, we call on you again.

We do not require arms or fighters, for we have plenty.

We ask you to form a world wide front against war and sanctions. A front
that is governed by the wise and knowing. A front that will bring reform and
order. New institutions that would replace the now corrupt.

Stop using the U.S. dollar, use the Euro or a basket of currencies. Reduce
or halt your consumption of British and U.S. products. Put an end to Zionism
before it ends the world. Educate those in doubt of the true nature of this
conflict and do not believe their media for their casualties are far higher
than they admit.

We only wish we had more cameras to show the world their true defeat.

The enemy is on the run. They are in fear of a resistance movement they can
not see nor predict.

We, now choose when, where, and how to strike. And as our ancestors drew the
first sparks of civilization, we will redefine the word “conquest.“

Today we write a new chapter in the arts of urban warfare.

Know that by helping the Iraqi people you are helping yourselves, for
tomorrow may bring the same destruction to you.

In helping the Iraqi people does not mean dealing for the Americans for a
few contracts here and there. You must continue to isolate their strategy.

This conflict is no longer considered a localized war. Nor can the world
remain hostage to the never-ending and regenerated fear that the American
people suffer from in general.

We will pin them here in Iraq to drain their resources, manpower, and their
will to fight. We will make them spend as much as they steal, if not more.

We will disrupt, then halt the flow of our stolen oil, thus, rendering their
plans useless.

And the earlier a movement is born, the earlier their fall will be.

And to the American soldiers we say, you can also choose to fight tyranny
with us. Lay down your weapons, and seek refuge in our mosques, churches and
homes. We will protect you. And we will get you out of Iraq , as we have
done with a few others before you.

Go back to your homes, families, and loved ones. This is not your war. Nor
are you fighting for a true cause in Iraq.

And to George W. Bush, we say, “You have asked us to ‘Bring it on’, and so
have we. Like never expected. Have you another challenge?”

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:23:37 -0500
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: BOOsch Junta Slapstick Comedy

GOVERNMENT OF THE USA IN
EXILE
Free Americans
Reaching Out to Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free
        
Via <prez@usa-exile.org>

February 15, 2006

Dear Friends and Colleagues,
Wow! This utterly has to be one of the Great Laughingstock
Moments in US federal history.
The very very last thing the US wants to see in Iran--especially
given the nearly unanimous loathing of the US there--is any slightest
hint of democracy. It craves being able to return to the days of the
shah there--or to install a similarly sleazy puppet.
In fact, the current US response to certain elements of democracy
within the general clerical control in Iran is to complete plans for
the use of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) against them.
Look at Rice's face below: she knows she's lying. She lies so
frequently that indeed if she ever said anything truthful it would
probably cause her to feel eccentric and start blushing.
She knows that the money "for radio and TV programs in Iran" would
be used to goad citizens there into behavior which--when spun carefully
in pimp/whore Occidental media--would frighten or offend enough sheeple
within the Fourth Reich's various huddled masses to enable use of WMDs.
She knows too that the money to "pay for Iranians to study in
America" would be part of a clandestine strategy to pressure them into
returning to Iran as highly-paid secret agents of the US-dominated
Fourth Reich.
And the unspeakable US Congresspeople will spread their legs for
this use of these monumentally evil WMDs because they know that few--if
any--of their constituents will blockade major thoroughfares in
protest.
Yours for all
species,
Keith Lampe,
Ro-Non-So-Te,
Ponderosa Pine
Transition Prez

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Rice: $75 Million Sought to Spur
Democracy in Iran

Wednesday, February 15, 2006 Posted: 1644 GMT (0044 HKT)


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Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says funds would be used for radio
and TV programs in Iran.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- President Bush wants $75 million to try to spur
democracy in its adversary Iran, expanding a program that skeptics say
can have little effect in the Islamic republic.

"The United States will actively confront the aggressive policies of
the Iranian regime. At the same time, we will work to support the
aspirations of the Iranian people for freedom and democracy in their
country," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told a congressional
budget hearing.

Rice said the funds would be used to broadcast U.S. radio and
television programs into Iran and pay for Iranians to study in America.
She requested the money in a supplemental budget request for fiscal
year 2006.

Congress has already approved $10 million for such programs for the
year, which begins October 1.

Political analysts and Western diplomats are skeptical U.S. efforts to
reach out to Iranians can work in a country where America is labeled
the "Great Satan" and believed to be anti-Muslim, particularly because
of a perception it favors Israelis over Palestinians.

The United States, which cut diplomatic ties with Iran after its 1979
revolution, is locked in a standoff with the Islamic republic to curb
what it suspects are programs to build a nuclear bomb.

But the Bush administration has emphasized in recent weeks that it is
not at odds with the people of Iran and said it wants to help them win
freedoms from their government.

Nuclear Clash

At the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Rice said the Iranian
government had increasingly isolated itself by pursuing nuclear
programs.

"They have now crossed a point where they are in open defiance" of the
international community, she said Wednesday.

She told the committee the Bush administration has been examining the
"full range of sanctions on Iran" and is also considering additional
sanctions the United States could impose on its own, although
international action would be more effective.

Appearing before lawmakers, Rice gave no details. The United States
has had broad sanctions on Iran since that country's 1979 Islamic
revolution.

Iran says its nuclear programs are for peaceful electricity generation.

Rice said she will visit the Gulf region next week to discuss Iran's
nuclear programs with Tehran's Arab neighbors. She did not specify
which countries she will visit.

A U.S. official has said Rice is expected to visit Egypt, Saudi Arabia
and the United Arab Emirates and discuss the election victory of the
Palestinian group Hamas and Muslim outrage at cartoons satirizing
Prophet Mohammad.

Copyright 2006 Reuters. All rights reserved.This material may not be
published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:17:33 -0500
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: Notes from Readers - 10

Forwarded with Compliments of Government of the USA in Exile (GUSAE):
Free Americans Proclaiming Total Emancipation and Working Towards
Democracy.

From: ufka <ufkartfm@pacific.net>
Date: February 15, 2006 8:33:34 AM EST
To: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: URGENT: digg it

dear pine,

some of the 9/11 folks might enjoy raising this to a front page
'digg' (smile):

http://www.digg.com/security/The_9_11_Conspiracy_Loose_Change_

as it is currently on the 'diggall' page and if you did not know,
digg gets an article a fair amount of attention once it hits the
main page.

luv ~@~

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From: Stephen Lendman <lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net>
Date: February 15, 2006 5:21:33 AM EST
To: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: Re: US Run by Criminal Syndicate

Americans are already in forced labor camps called the
US gulag prison system or complex - nearly 2.2 million
in prison, half black, another 15% Latino and the
number keeps rising, more prisons being built,
multi-billions spent of this and much of it to private
corporations for profit.

Steve Lendman

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From: "Stephanie Sutton" <ssutton@flantech.com>
Date: February 12, 2006 6:52:05 PM EST
To: "'Stephanie Sutton'" <ssutton@phisciences.com>
Subject: Spiritually Informed Political Activism

http://www.awakeninthedream.com/html/

SPIRITUALLY INFORMED POLITICAL ACTIVISM
by Paul Levy

Many people are asking me what we can do to make a difference in our
current world situation.

[snip]

Dear Steph,
Paul's piece is an interesting mix of stuff. It might be
interesting also to distinguish between Spiritually Informed Political
Activism and Politically Informed Spiritual Activism. The former then
would be that area of yin within the yang half of the Ying/Yang
Logo--e.g., nonviolent (but not excluding property destruction, of
course) civil disobedience--and the latter the yang within the
yin--e.g., yogas specifically aimed at providing activists with greater
neural stamina. In any case, the Yin/Yang Logo has many important
lessons for current activists--especially in their efforts to overcome
the debilitating effects of the Fourth Reich's conspicuously successful
(e.g., back-to-the-landers so rarely provide country retreats for urban
activists to heal before their next number) divide-and-conquer
strategy.
Fondly,
Pondo

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From: Stephen Lendman <lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net>
Date: February 13, 2006 3:19:02 PM EST
To: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: Re: Two on Iran from Kurt Nimmo

The Lancet may have greatly underestimated the Iraqi
death toll. No one knows how many Iraqis have been
killed just since 3/03 but some honest estimaters
using statistical random sampling techniques estimate
it could be as high as 500,000. That's on top of
about 1.5 million killed from 1/91 until 3/03. And
those numbers are almost minor compared to the number
of Iraqis sick or will become so from the toxic
effects of depleted uranium alone as Iraq is now a
toxic wasteland forever - irradiated for the next 4.5
billion years.

Millions of Iraqis and all others who spend any time
in the country will be affected and many deaths and
terrible illnesses (almost any illness you can
imagine) will be the result from now till infinity.
That the legacy of the US illegal war against Iraq.
Afghanistan is also affected but less so than Iraq.

Steve Lendman

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From: Michelle Sura <michellesura@mac.com>
Date: January 31, 2006 3:20:33 AM EST
To: "USA Exile Govt. President" <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: Beeman on Iran Nukes

http://www.juancole.com/2006/01/beeman-guest-editorial-us-to-blame-
for.html

Informed Comment

Thoughts on the Middle East, History, and Religion

Juan Cole is Professor of History at the University of Michigan

Monday, January 30, 2006

Beeman Guest Editorial: US to Blame for Iranian Nuclear Program

United States Instigated Iran's Nuclear Program 30 Years Ago

William O. Beeman
Brown University

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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:51:12 -0500
From: benjamin pritchard <ben@benjaminpritchard.name>
Subject: everyone asked to digg loose change; 10s of thousands will see the link if you do

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:56:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Larry Lawson <h9tech_47460@yahoo.com>
Subject: Eric Hufschmid Helps CONFIRM Alex Jones & GCN as ZIONIST Apologists!

REPOSTS #2 ON: 02-15-AD2006 Archived at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LLNews5 Out:03:50pm
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This is a VERY IMPORTANT email folks! VERY IMPORTANT! I was truly appreciative of the FREE DVD available at: http://www.reopen911.org that wasn't SOLD as part of the PAYtriot video of the month club. And of Eric's work on that DVD.
I emailed Eric to WARN him of contact by a late coming TURD in the PHONY PAYtriot movement, Eric May who FRAUDULENTLY passes himself off as a 'Captain' and pushed the same Stew Webb / Tom Flocco COINTLPRO GARBAGE I've been exposing for YEARS NOW! Eric's email below has lead me to a WEALTH of info I feel needs to be shared ESPECIALLY over our PHONY Self-proclaimed HYPOCRITE Alex Jones! I've steadfastly reported how Jones has LIED regarding what happened to Mark Koernke's show on GCN summarized here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/end-time-prophecies/message/15387 And gosh golly GEE it was over our EXPOSURE OF ZIONISTS!! Look what Daryl Bradford Smith wrote below which dovetails with what I've TESTIFIED to about Jones. And don't forget his LIES here either:
The Alex Jones Affair
A Christian Family Betrayed
http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/jones.html

I'm telling you folks, ONLY THOSE PREPARING FOLKS TO PHYSICALLY RESIST THE NWO ARE REAL THREATS!
Jones is a money grubbing FAKE!! Yet he pushes himself as the real deal.

Mark Koernke is the REAL DEAL!
Bob Stewart is the REAL DEAL!
Fritz Springmeir is the REAL DEAL!!

Alex Jones is a pitiful money grubbing WANNABE PERIOD!!!
He can fly anywhere and do anything whilst REAL Patriots SUFFER!


It is VERY important to read BOTH URL stories from below.
I've copied the 2nd one here below.
NOTE what he says about Jones below and Genesis repeated here:

Can the Genesis Communications Network be trusted? Most of the radio hosts at the Genesis Communications Network (GCN) are liars, Crypto Jews, or con artists. GCN is a nest of disinformation specialities and Crypto Zionists. What if one of the purposes of GCN is to acquire a list of people who subscribe to and call into the radio shows? , and then keep that handy for when they need to get rid of their enemies? We suggest everybody avoid purchasing anything from Genesis, 9/11 truth.org, or any of these other suspicious organizations. They may want your name, address, credit card information. This list would be very valuable to the Zionist Mafia because it would be a list of their potential enemies. Please do not get any support to any of the Zionist networks, such as GCN, the pornography sites, 911truth.org, or any of the other suspicious truth seekers. They may be collecting names, addresses, and credit card information. Try to learn from the mistakes of previous goyim,
rather than become another victim of the Crypto Jews.



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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Eric, FYI 'Capt' Eric May is a COINTELPRO FRAUD!

I know what you mean. Almost everybody in this truth movement is a liar. In fact, I have some articles about it, such as:

http://www.EricHufschmid.net/InvestigateTheTruthSeekers.htm
This applies to BOTH the 'bald wonder' Eric May AND Alex Jones!!!


Daryl Bradford Smith is also talking about it. He even thinks Alex Jones is a liar. For example:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_CryptoZionists.htm


Eric



In a message dated 02/15/06 7:10:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, hitech1@bluemarble.net writes:
There are many of these paid creeps out there. I saw that he made contact with you in his group.

HE IS A FRAUD!

Many are spewing absolute GARBAGE From the likes of Tom Flocco who uses COINTELPRO Perps Stew Webb and Thomas Heneghen. Eric May is one of them!

There are MANY disinfo frauds out there and Stew Webb is one of the worst.

Summaries of Webb and Hartwell are here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ctrl/message/59043

I also have audio clips proving this from Webb, Alex Jones and others. My phone is: 812-879-5939.



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http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_CryptoZionists.htm
Lesson # 7
Crypto Jews and Crypto Zionists 12 Feb 2006



"Closet Homosexuals" The term "closet homosexual" refers to a person who is hiding his homosexuality in order to be accepted by society. Centuries ago some Jews pretended to be whatever the dominant religion of their society was in order to be accepted. We could refer to them as "closet Jews". Most people refer to them as "Crypto Jews", but we should narrow the definition of Crypto Jew so that it refers only to the Jews who do this for diabolical purposes. For example, when a Jew pretends to be a Christian for the purpose of infiltrating a Catholic Church, he is not merely a "closet Jew" who wants to be accepted by society. Rather, he is a con artist who is disrupting society.
Crypto Jews What would you think if a group of homosexuals were pretending to be heterosexuals so that they could marry women and then slowly cheat their family of money? Would you describe them as "closet homosexuals" who are trying to be accepted by society? Of course you wouldn't. You would refer to them as con artists; as criminals; as disgusting specimens of the human race. So what do we call a Jew who pretends to be a Christian, Muslim, or an atheist, simply for the purpose of infiltrating and disrupting our societies or our organizations? Let's refer to such Jews as Crypto Jews.
Crypto Zionists Some Jews openly admit they are Jews, but they will deny that they are Zionists. We should refer to them as "Crypto Zionists". A Crypto Zionist can infiltrate organizations of Jews, in addition to infiltrating non-Jewish organizations. Is there evidence that Crypto Jews or Crypto Zionist actually exist? Yes, indeed.
The Young Turks; Crypto-Jews in Turkey There was a massacre of Armenians at the beginning of the 20th century. The official story is that a group of Muslims -- known as the Young Turks -- were responsible, but there is a lot of evidence that the Young Turks were Crypto Jews. In fact, a Jewish historian claims that in 1908 the Young Turks began conscripting Jews into their army:
www.jewishgen.org/SefardSIG/AleppoJews.htm An excerpt of a book by Ioasif Kassesian:
www.radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/turkey/youngturks.htm Another site:
www.grecoreport.com/the_young_turks_who_were_they.htm
Maranos: Crypto-Jews in the area of Spain The official story of the Spanish Inquisition is very similar to the official story of Nazi Germany. Specifically, we are told that both the Spanish people of the 1400's and the German people in the 1930's decided to go on violent rampages and attack innocent Jews and other innocent people. Supposedly, the Spanish and the Germans are cruel, vicious people who enjoy killing innocent people. The official stories bring sympathy for Jews and disgust of Europeans. However, the Zionists have taken control of our media, so we should expect the official stories to have a strong Zionist bias. Without the Zionist bias, the real purpose of the Spanish Inquisition was to remove the Jews and Muslims who were pretending to be Catholics. Some of the Jews had become priests and bishops. These Jews were referred to as "Maranos" or "Marranos", which has a similar meaning as "pigs". Here are some alternatives to the official story:
www.ewtn.com/library/HOMELIBR/SPANINQ.TXT
www.trosch.org/for/inquisition.html
Thomas de Torquemada, who was appointed to lead the Spanish Inquisition, has been described as a precursor to Adolf Hitler. Some people claim Adolf Hitler and many of the top Nazis were Crypto-Jews, so you might not be surprised that some historians claim that Torquemada was a Marano:
www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?groupid=1750&HistoryID=ab50 You might find it interesting that www.rotten.com, a site that provides extreme types of pornography, provides the Zionist view of the Spanish Inquisition and Thomas de Torquemada:

www.rotten.com/library/history/inquisition
www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/torquemada
Is it a coincidence that rotten.com has a Zionist bias? Not if you consider the evidence that Zionists dominate the pornography industry. If you buy pornography, you are funding the Zionists.
DarylBradfordSmith_porn.html

Any Crypto Jews in our government? If you have been paying attention to the French Connection, you know that a large number of top government officials, media executives, and banking families are openly Jewish, and many admit they are Zionists. They are not Crypto Jews, but some are certain to be Crypto Zionists. There are a lot of Christians and atheists in our government that show a strong support of Israel. Are any of them Crypto Jews? The Bush family, for example, seems quite happy to send Americans to die for Israel, and they seem happy to send billions of our dollars to the Mideast. According to Texe Marrs: "One thing I discovered is that George W. Bush is a devoted student of the Jewish Talmud, just as were Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin."
www.texemarrs.com/george_w_bush_zionist_double_agent.htm
(Again, we posted this story but the PHOTO of Bush holding the TALMUD looks FAKED.. WHY? To discredit ALL?
Texe CLAIMS to be former air force 'intelligence' as do MANY PHONY PAYtriots we're finding out here.
He's a money grubber just like Alex Jones and BOTH yield PARTIAL Truth mixed with LIES! RAT POISON!)
If Texe Marrs is correct, the Bush family are Crypto Jews. There also accusations that President Eisenhower and Prime Minister Winston Churchill were, also. Many people believe that Adolf Hitler was part Jewish, as well as many of his top Nazis. The Rockefeller family is also suspected of being Crypto Jews. More shocking, Yaakov Wise, researcher in orthodox Jewish history, claims that Pope John Paul was Jewish on his mother's side of the family.
www.metronews.co.uk/news/article/0/346_the_pope_was_jewish_says_historian.html Jean-Marie Lustiger, archbishop of Paris, is Jewish. After Pope John Paul died, some people were speculating that he might become the second Jewish pope:
http://washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20050401-022100-5163r.htm If Pope John Paul was Jewish, then Jean-Marie Lustiger would have become the third Jewish pope. Do Jews allow Catholics, Buddhists, Muslims, or atheists to become Rabbis? If the information Richard Koshimizu has is correct, even Osama bin Laden was partly Jewish!
www15.ocn.ne.jp/~oyakodon/newversion/yudayasensou.e.htm

Is the truth movement infiltrated? A large number of the "truth seekers" in regards to 9/11, UFOs, and the Holocaust are openly Jewish. Some of the truth seekers avoid telling us their religion, or they claim to be Christian or atheists, but they often show a support of Israel. Why are so many of the truth seekers showing a Zionist bias? In previous articles we criticized some of the 9/11 truth seekers. So in this article we will mention some new names.



Alex Jones Jones is an example of a person who calls himself a Christian but his treatment of Israel and Zionism is what we would expect from a Crypto Jew, or from somebody who works with Crypto Jews. Jones has a radio show on the Genesis Communications Network. If you have access to their archives, listen to the 2nd and 3rd hours of the Friday, February 9, 2006 show during which he interviews Robert Gaylon Ross. There are several times during that show where he seems to be doing "damage control"; ie, he deflects criticism away from Zionism and Israel.

(How many times have I complained of this even when I was doing Mark's show on GCN????) For example, in this excerpt Jones tells us that the "Luciferian Controllers" are responsible for the world's problems: Click for MP3 excerpt of Jones, only 170 kb Jones brings up the X-raying of 110,000 Sephardic Jewish children, but he tells us that the US Government paid for the operation. This implies that the Americans were somehow involved. However, Jones fails to tell us who in the American government helped to fund it, and why they helped. Most likely the funding was coming from Zionists, Crypto Jews, Crypto Zionists, and/or their puppets within our government. However, by saying the US Government funded it, Jones deflects blame away from Zionists and onto the American government He also asks, "Why, why are they always trying to kill Jews?" This brings pity to the innocent Jews who are perpetual victims of the mysterious "they". Jones says that "they" are always trying
to kill Jews, but he fails to mention that the "they" are the Ashkenazi Jews; specifically, the Zionists. During that interview, Robert Gaylon Ross mentions that there is evidence that Hitler was an illegitimate child of one of the Rothschilds. This is very significant because if the Zionists played a large role in helping Hitler and the Nazi party, as well as the Communist Party, World War I, World War II, and virtually every other war and disaster of the 20th century, the Zionists are not the innocent victims they pretend to be. However, Jones does damage control by changing the issue to the X-raying of Sephardic children in Israel, and making it appear as if the mysterious "they" are responsible for the X-raying. He fumbles for words as he tries to bring pity to Israel: "Well, I mean, this group openly went and killed a hundred plus thousand.. and.. or radiated, these... these... these... Sephardi. They... every time we look they're killing Jews. And then I don't understand
how we're... how we could be bad... I mean Barry Chamish is Jewish. He's saying exactly what... exactly what you're saying..." MP3 Excerpt #2, only 170 kb Jones said "every time we look they're killing Jews". Once again Jones refuses to mention that the "they" are the Zionists. It doesn't matter which of his radio shows you listen to; you will find the same pattern over and over. Specifically, he blames the world's problems on a mysterious group that he refers to as the "New World Order", a "Germanic death cult", the "Luciferian Controllers", the "Western Intelligence Agencies", or the "Elite". Why does Jones use "Germanic death cult" as one of his expressions? Why not Jewish death cult? Why not Zionist death cult? How about "Israeli death cult"? Why do so many of these truth seekers try to create the image that Germans are evil when all the evidence suggests that Zionists are the problem? By never mentioning the names of Zionists (such as Sam Newhouse, Joe Lieberman,
Sumner Redstone, Edgar Bronfman), Jones keeps his listeners in a state of confusion and fear. How can we defend ourselves from a "Germanic Death Cult"? How is it possible for the police to arrest the "Luciferian Controllers"? Alex Jones works closely Paul Joseph Watson and his brother Steve Watson, both of whom are Jews who live in England. Their support of Israel should be considered a sign that the Watsons are Crypto Zionists. Alex Jones is married to a woman named Violet, who is Jewish. Being Jewish is not bad, but if she may be a Crypto Zionist, she is a deceiver; a criminal; a con artist. Considering that Alex Jones works and lives with suspicious people, is it any wonder that he deflects criticism of Zionism to the "New World Order"? Perhaps he is also a Crypto Jew.

(And again reportedly his WIFE married to him by Texe Marrs is Jewish!!???)


Dave von Kleist and Joyce Riley This married couple are also radio hosts on the Genesis network. As with Jones, they also avoid discussing the role that Zionists play in the world's problems. A man named Peter Kawaja started the American Gulf War veterans Association in 1995:
www.agwva.org/index.htm Joyce Riley later created a group with the exact same name:
www.gulfwarvets.com/ What is going on? Some people accuse Joyce Riley of trying to deflect attention away from Peter Kawaja, who is honest. For example:
http://hometown.aol.com/wbflegal/page16.html Is Riley a Crypto Jew? Or a Christian Zionist? Dave von Kleist and William Lewis produced the video "In Plane Site", but for what purpose? To expose 9-11?

(And I showed where William Lewis LIED in the Yahoo group: thepowerhour and made pro-zionist statements!) The first version of his video explained that there was a pod under the airplane that hit the South Tower. Sure, the airplane may have had a pod under it, but so far there is no serious evidence to support such a theory. Therefore, as with the Loose Change video, the In Plane Site video may be nothing more than an attempt to push aside Hufschmid's video, Painful Deceptions. Furthermore, by including the pod theory, people could -- and did -- attack In Plane Site as stupid and sloppy, thereby giving 9-11 investigators a bad image. For example, here is one attack:
http://www.oilempire.us/inplanesite.html Incidentally, oilempire.us is run by Mark Rabinowitz, who has a Zionist view of the world. Is it a coincidence that Dave von Kleist, who supports the Zionist view of the world, produces a crummy video, and then another Zionist criticizes the video as stupid? One technique to discredit 9-11 research is for the Zionists to produce crummy 9-11 articles and videos. Other people -- including Zionists -- will then criticize their sloppy work, thereby creating the impression that the 9-11 researchers are idiots. Is Dave von Kleist a Crypto Jew? A Christian Zionist? How about William Lewis?


Jeff Rense Rense is another host on Genesis. Rense will condemn Zionism, and even complain that the Holocaust is a hoax, but most of what he has on his web site and on his radio show is nonsense about UFOs. Some people will try to pick through his articles in the hope of finding something intelligent, but I suspect that most intelligent people will think to themselves,
"Holy Mother of Bush. Since his articles about UFOs don't have any supporting evidence, how can I trust his articles about Zionism or the Holocaust?" Furthermore, when somebody criticizes Zionism or the Holocaust, the Zionists can counter their arguments with remarks such as, "Oh, you don't believe the official story of the Holocaust? You should go to Rense.com where all the UFO believers, remote viewers, time travelers, and Holocaust deniers gather to discuss their hallucinations, you dumb ass."

Greg Szymanski This is another radio host on Genesis. He also has a show on RBN, and he appears regularly on the Jeff Rense radio show. Although Szymanski wrote about aliens only once, he wrote lots of other deceptive articles, such as his series about the Vatican being behind the world's problems. For example:
www.arcticbeacon.com/9-Feb-2006.html Incidentally, if the Catholic Church is involved in wars and corruption, it may be coming from the Crypto Jews within the organization, not the true Catholics. Greg Szymanski may also be a Crypto Jew.


Mike Rivero He runs the web site whatreallyhappened.com. Numerous times he helped promote our radio interviews and articles, but lately has been refusing to take my phone calls or promote our radio show. However, he will appear regularly on the Alex Jones radio show. Carol Brouillet, who has been printing the Deception Dollar, has lots of web sites listed on the dollar. One of them is Michael Rivero's. Why is his site included with all of those other deceptive web sites?
Have you seen our analysis of this dollar?
DarylBradfordSmith_DeceptionDollar.htm Furthermore, Rivero's support of the official theory of Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon is so stupid that many people accuse him of being an agent, or an idiot. Or is Rivero afraid to be honest? Or is he another Crypto Jew?


Greg Zeigler Most people don't know of Zeigler because he remains behind the scenes. However, he is in contact with some of the people in the "truth movement", such as Kee Dewdney, Leland Lehrman, Phil Jayhan, and Morgan Reynolds. Furthermore, he defends some of the suspicious people, such as Judy Andreas, Scott Ritter, and Wayne Madsen. His behavior suggests that he is a crypto Zionist in a management position. His job may be to supervise a group of Crypto Jews and Crypto Zionists. He may be helping them to infiltrate the truth movement, produce propaganda, deceive the honest people, and collect blackmail material. We should be cautions of all of Zeigler's associates because they may be part of the Zionist Mafia. Key Dewdney, for example, admits to being partly Jewish, but denies being a Zionist. Dewdney created the web site physics911.net. Is Ziegler in contact with Dewdney to help him expose 9-11? Or is Zeigler trying to manipulate, blackmail, or bribe Dewdney? Or is
Dewdney a Crypto Zionist who works with Zeigler?


Barry Zwicker A journalist in Canada, he touches on only a few issues about 9-11. However, Carol Brouillet and many other people consider him to be such a valuable investigator that they invited him to speak at some of their 9-11 meetings. Is Zwicker another Crypto Jew?

Jim Hoffman He created 911research.wtc7.net. As we pointed out in our analysis of the Deception Dollar, he comes up with idiotic theories. Another Crypto Jew?

Investigate every Truth Seeker During the past century the Crypto Jews and Crypto Zionists have been infiltrating goyim organizations and societies for the purpose of starting wars, chaos, massacres, and corruption beyond anything the world has ever seen. We would be fools to assume that the Crypto Jews have stopped infiltrating goyim organizations. Everybody in the "truth movement" should be investigated as a possible Crypto Jew. Many of the "Truth Seekers", such as Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Wayne Madsen, Dave von Kleist, and Webster Tarpley, have been exposing corruption for many years. They should know more about corruption than those of us who only recently got involved. However, these experienced experts seem to know less about Zionism and 9/11 than you and I. This is evidence that these experts are lying, and that their purpose is to monitor, manipulate, distract, and confuse.

Can the Genesis Communications Network be trusted? Most of the radio hosts at the Genesis Communications Network (GCN) are liars, Crypto Jews, or con artists. GCN is a nest of disinformation specialities and Crypto Zionists. What if one of the purposes of GCN is to acquire a list of people who subscribe to and call into the radio shows? , and then keep that handy for when they need to get rid of their enemies? We suggest everybody avoid purchasing anything from Genesis, 9/11 truth.org, or any of these other suspicious organizations. They may want your name, address, credit card information. This list would be very valuable to the Zionist Mafia because it would be a list of their potential enemies. Please do not get any support to any of the Zionist networks, such as GCN, the pornography sites, 911truth.org, or any of the other suspicious truth seekers. They may be collecting names, addresses, and credit card information. Try to learn from the mistakes of previous goyim,
rather than become another victim of the Crypto Jews.


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Contaminating the Truth is a Crime
• Rense's writers send people in the wrong direction, and some articles have serious mistakes that are never corrected.

• Rense may be influenced by Sam Newhouse or other Zionists who routinely deceive us. • Most important, Rense's mixing of absurd UFO stories with 9-11 and Zionism is giving a bad image to research on 9-11 and Zionism.
Get a clue! Click here (updated 6 Jan 2006)


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Death Threats Hit
Prominent Political Columnists

By Todd Brendan Fahey
http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2835
2-14-6


James Hall publishes as "SARTRE" throughout the Web. Perhaps the most prolific right-wing columnist on the 'net, he keeps to himself in private life. Long retired a s a political strategist, Hall is no longer a believer in organized politics--though very much still a believer in and spokesman for Jeffersonian anti-federalist, limited government ideology.

And so he was surprised to answer his unlisted phone number on January 30th, to the question that was asked three times in succession: "Is this SARTRE?" (His response each time: "Who is calling?"). Finally, the caller shouted, "We know who you are!", followed by a death threat that he has divulged only to the New York state police department in his area, which he alerted immediately.

Says Hall, "No one calls for Sartre on my home phone number."

The *64 function on his phone brought back a Toronto, Canada phone number (xxx-xxx-xxxx) owned by Dr. Laurence B. Shiff, (address witheld), Toronto, Ontario. Friends assisted Hall in some Google sleuthing, an d which reveals Dr. Shiff an officer of the Kaspu Corporation. When relaying the events to longtime SARTRE publisher Jeff Rense, Rense said: "That's the same number we've been getting threats from, and two of my other writers" (and many of his guests).

The morning of Hall's telephone death threat, he had published an incendiary piece titled ("Hamas, Israel and the United States"), which went 'net-wide and which, later in the week, resulted in his being dropped from New Media Alliance--ostensibly, a start-up conservative news bureau. The article calls for a complete severing of the "USrael alliance," as a danger to American citizens and an affront to the Constitution.

Two weeks before the threat received by James Hall, fellow Rense.com writer Kurt Nimmo closed down his blog entirely, citing an inability to reconcile death threats received, his publishing life and the safety of his family ( "Zionist Death Threats: Nimmo Closes Down Blog").

Writes Nimmo:

"The primary reason I have decided to stop posting the blog has to do with threats. I have received many of them, including death threats. Usually, I am able to brush aside threats, since most are not of a serious nature, but lately I have received several that are not to be taken lightly, especially considering the fact somebody has taken the liberty to post my address and telephone number (information easily attained from the domain registry) in various places on the internet. First and foremost, I have a responsibility to my family and posting political commentary obviously comes in a distant second."

On February 2, Rense.com writer Jim Mortellaro received calls from the same Toronto, Canada phone number: "Beginning three days ago, two more so-called 'men' began their tirade on this writer. Like the first person, they informed me that I was a Rense supporter and that makes me an anti-Semite. Me. Of all people, with a Jewish side to our family in which 2.15% survived the camps. That would be two out of 93 human beings. You picked the wrong person, guys. ...I now have his name and address. The man lives in Toronto. He is the son of a (I won't go there, not to worry), he is a member of a very wealthy family there, with interest in (major interest) in a very large corporation." ("Zionist Threats and Harrassment Continue")

Mortellaro received the call on his cell phone, which, as he writes: "is extremely hard to obtain. You must have the *authority* to do so and that authority must be high up the food chain. So, whomever called, did so from a "restricted telephone number" and had *access* to cellphone numbers and their owners. A 'restricted' telephone number, being different from a 'restricted call,' makes the case for a governmental, institutional or large and powerful company as having made the call."

Messrs. Hall, Rense, Nimmo and Mortellaro are now coordinating efforts--with state police, FBI and Canadian authorities--for to bring about a Federal investigation. Each writer has been critical in their writings of US/Israeli entanglements; each has received death threats from the same phone source--which has now been identified. All manner of "special interest groups" have been protected from harrassment and seen perpetrators punished. That this group is comprised of prominent writers who hold what are undoubtedly unpopular beliefs, in the eyes of mainstream media and probably within Washington D.C., will prove a test case for the law being "fair and balanced." ### Todd Brendan Fahey has served as aide to former Congressman John B. Conlan, former Arizona Governor Evan Mech am, to CIA officer Theodore L. Humes and to the late Defense Intelligence Agency chief, Lt. General Daniel O. Graham.

UPDATE 2-14-6

-----Original Message-----

From: laurence shiff
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 6:21 PM
To: sartre@frontiernet.net
Subject: Further to our phone conversation

Dear Mr. Hall:

I would just like to reiterate my sincere apologies regarding the harrasing phone calls that you have been receiving from someone pu rporting to be me.

I can assure you that I will do all that I can from here in Toronto to try and track all this down.

If you need any more information, please do not hesitate to call me collect at my office xxx-xxx-xxxxx, or my home xxx-xxx-xxxx.

Sincerely,

Laurence

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Captain Eric May - Hidden Agenda?

Captain May's Circle of Friends:

Greg Syzmanski - Jesuit trained Roman Catholic. Notre
Dame graduate.<<<notes added by Tim White>>>,Greg
recently "came out of the blue" and now he is
everywhere but before his recent appearance "on the
scene",he was covering "defense issues" at the
Pentagon and elsewhere in the Military/Industrial
"complex"-of course that IS also controlled BY THE
JESUITS for the SUPERIOR GENERAL of the Jesuits,Count
Peter Hans Kolvenbach,THE BLACK POPE.

Georgeann Hughes - MPD pawn of the Illuminati. Born
into Satanism/Illuminati. Often has Al Cuppett a pro
Zionist on her radio show. Cuppett sends the proceeds
of his books to the Zionists.

Zeph Daniel - MPD pawn of the Illuminati. Born into
Satanism/Illuminati.

Stew Webb - MPD pawn of FBI/CIA/Al Gore Illuminati.
Married Leonard Millman who had direct ties to the
Bush bloodline. Hated his father-in-law who is now
dead. Recruited by FBI/Al Gore camp to expose the Bush
Cabal.<<<notes added by Tim White>>>,Stew Webb is a
deep cover FBI snitch and set up agent/disinfo who is
identified by a symbol-he admits this in a video tape
filmed by Jon Gentry that former FBI SAC in Los
Angeles,Ted Gunderson,sent me.Presently hiding out at
the home of retired USAF/NSA Lt Gen Otis L
Johnson(codename RED DOG)in Hastings Nebraska-1242 St
Joseph Ave,402-461-4957.RED DOG was assigned to
NSA/CIA operations at Offutt AFB for many years and is
a very high level Mason-beyond the 33rd Degree by his
own admission,a member of the Scottish Rite 99 Lodge
in Denver,the same Lodge/Temple that Leonard Millman
was a member of.

Hal Turner - Illuminati disinfo media pawn. Jesuit
Trained Roman Catholic.<<<notes added by Tim
White>>>,vicious on air neo Nazi Racist broadcasting
out of NYC and who obviously is protected by "THE
ORDER"-home is in North Bergen,N.J.,1906 Paterson
Plank Rd,07047,home ph 201-484-7809.

Eric May himself said in an email, "I defer to the
Jesuits" to Tim White. The Jesuits have been involved
with working the same Al Gore camp agenda of exposing
the Bush Cabal...same as Stew Webb. What better way to
align patriots against the Bush Cabal by putting a
former intel Army Capt out in front? The problem is,
the agenda behind it pushes the agendas of Al Gore,
the NESARA alien agenda and the Vatican's. The
Jesuits do a good job of exposing the Bush crime
cartel but people need to be warned not to buy into
the garbage that another globalist regime can do
better.<<<notes from Tim White>>>,I have consistantly
put information about the Jesuits and their
controlling agenda before Eric May from the very
beginning of contact with him and May NEVER would
touch it with a 100' pole.His Jesuit edication is
constantly brought up by May so it's very obvious who
actually controls him.Contact phone numbers-one he
publicly puts out but one is NOT known-till
now,832-971-7404(public),NOT known,281-257-2440,11800
Grant Rd,Cypress TX,77429

Globalism is the enemy of Patriotism.

The Jesuits are the right hand men of The Black Pope,
Satan's right hand man on earth!

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/blackpope.htm



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Captain May's Circle of Friends.

Greg Syzmanski - Trained Jesuit.

Georgeann Hughes - MPD pawn of the illuminati. Born into Satanism/Illuminati.

Zeph Daniel - MPD pawn of the illuminati. Born into Satanism/Illuminati.

Stew Webb - MPD pawn of FBI/CIA/Al Gore illuminati. Married a Millman who has direct ties to the Bush bloodline. Hated his father-in-law. Recruited by FBI/Al Gore camp to expose the Bush Cabal.

Hal Turner - Illuminati disinfo media pawn.

Lenny Bloom - alias. Father is part of the NWO media empire in Canada.

What's wrong with this picture? And when you try to help him i.e. straighten him out he gets defensive (kicked me out of his group).

Sherry,












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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:58:39 -0800 (PST)
From: John Perna <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
Subject: The false patriot will spend most of his time attacking the defenders of liberty, under numerous pretenses.

The false patriot will present himself as a defender of liberty,
BUT he will spend most of his time attacking the defenders of liberty, under numerous pretenses.
If you total up all of the defenders of liberty;
who are attacked by the false patriot,
you will quickly notice that it is practically the ENTIRE patriot movement.
Those; whom he praises, are usually in JAIL.
Obviously, no one will have his approval, until they are in jail!
It is very simple:
We learn who the most effective human rights activists are,
by seeing who the government shills attack.
We learn who the government shills are,
by seeing who attacks the most effective human rights activists.
One of the greatest compliments,
that any defender of liberty, or freedom activist organization,
can ever receive,
is to be insulted by a person,
who always lies.
The false patriot will spend a great deal of effort on the following:
1. Dividing the defenders of liberty into fighting each other by creating strife among freedom activists. (This is often called "infighting", but it actually comes from a person, who is working to build tyranny.)
2. Attempting to waste the time of freedom activists, by forcing them to respond to personal attacks, or endless debate about trivia.
3. ABOVE ALL: Accusing the most effective freedom activists of being false opposition.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Details below:
Disinformer's Gambit
Tactics of Disinformers
A short time ago I posted some information on The Tactics of Disinformers.
I was amazed to see how quickly the disinformers came out of the wood work to
identify themselves.
One disinformer actually created a fraudulent ID,
specifically to impersonate me, as a response to this message.
The use of this deceptive tactic shows everyone EXACTLY WHO
the disinformer is.
This fraudulent ID was created as a response to my explanation of
The Tactics of Disinformers.
This response was actually an excellent demonstration of one of the tactics;
that was explained:

THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
Sometimes, if you simply post information on Disinformers;
without naming anyone, the Disinformers will identify themselves,
by taking offense, and popping in, to comment.
Occasionally, even though you do not mention anyone's name,
they will claim that what you have written is about them.
Nothing could be more precise,
in identifying exactly WHO are the disinformers,
than the disinformers own reaction to this post.
It is safe to conclude that if one were to throw a rock into a pen full of
pigs,
and one of them squealed,
that the one that squealed,
would be the one that you had hit.

TRY POSTING THIS, ALL AROUND,
and then watch what happens.
See who it is that claims, that this "shoe fits".
It is a good dog, who comes when he is called.
Here is the message that makes the pigs squeal:
The Disinformer's Gambit
The Tactics of Disinformers
In the game of chess there exists a term;
which describes a maneuver, a stratagem, and a ploy;
using different pieces working together, to accomplish a secret purpose.
This is called a gambit.

Those who hope to build totalitarian control over freedom loving people,
also use many gambits.
BUT, the chess player has the advantage of always knowing which pieces are on the other side.
Those who would defend liberty have no such luxury.
The most treacherous player in the gambit is the false patriot.
The false patriot will present himself as a defender of liberty,
BUT he will spend most of his time attacking the defenders of liberty, under numerous pretenses.
The false patriot will attempt to re-direct attention in every direction EXCEPT at those, who are building tyranny. The false patriot will attempt to re-direct attention to an entire race, a religion, a large group with a few problems, or even against freedom activists.
This is essentially the very old military strategy of the creation a "decoy to draw enemy fire." The ultimate success of this deception is to cause defenders of liberty to "fire" on non-combatants, or even to "fire" on their own friends, and allies. In addition, the false patriot will neutralize the efforts of the defenders of liberty. The false patriot, like every other player in the gambit, will neutralize the efforts of the defenders of liberty by:
1. Deceiving the defenders of liberty into supporting hoaxes.
Any time that a simple request for evidence results in vitriolic personal attacks, or an attempt to censor, with no attempt to address the issue, you can be sure that you are dealing with
a hoax.
2. Dividing the defenders of liberty into fighting each other by creating strife among patriots.
3. Deceiving the defenders of liberty into creating class struggle by promoting ethnic hatred.
4. Attempting to waste the time of patriots, by forcing them to respond to personal attacks, or endless debate about trivia.
5. Using multiple aliases to create the appearance that there is someone, who believes them to be credible.
6. ABOVE ALL: Accusing the most effective patriots of being false opposition.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.

It is VERY simple.
Those who spend their time fighting tyranny, are freedom activists.

Those who spend their time fighting freedom activists are working for the advancement of tyranny.
The false patriot will generally proclaim himself to be a religious zealot; such as a Christian conservative, but he will not adhere to the principles of his proclaimed religion, in his own actions. He might even; incomprehensibly, be an ally of another player in the gambit; who is an atheist, or a socialist, or even a Satanist.
(There is no implication here that an atheist cannot be in favor of freedom.
This is mentioned only to show that often "strange bed fellows" are working together to oppose freedom activists)
In one group he might attempt to appear to be a Christian conservative.
In another group he might present himself as a marxist, or as an Al Qaeda supporter.
The false patriot; and those whom he deceives into promoting hoaxes,
will reduce the credibility of all freedom activists. Those who have heard outlandishly ridiculous "conspiracy theories" will have a tendency to dismiss all "conspiracy theories" without serious examination. The false patriot will compose letters of praise, to himself, and post them as if they were anonymous correspondence supposedly received by himself.
The admitted atheist, or socialist will supply the most fervent, and obvious, opposition to the defenders of liberty. This player, in the gambit, will make a strong frontal attack on everything that the defenders of liberty do.
The admitted atheist, or socialist will implement the same goals; that are listed above. The admitted atheist, or socialist will play on the existence of outlandishly ridiculous "conspiracy theories" to encourage people to dismiss all "conspiracy theories" without serious examination.
The admitted atheist, or socialist will infest patriotic, and religious, groups for no apparent reason. The main reasons are to disrupt, to get the group deleted, or to waste the time of patriots.

Even though DISINFORMERS make it a practice of accusing the most effective freedom activists of being false opposition, you will notice that there are certain admitted government apologists, who are never accused. This is because certain admitted government apologists are also players in the gambit.
The admitted government apologist will attempt to portray the defenders of liberty as subversives, as unreliable, and as outlandishly mentally unstable.
The admitted government apologist will play on the existence of outlandishly ridiculous "conspiracy theories" to encourage people to dismiss all "conspiracy theories" without serious examination. The admitted government apologist will use documents from the FBI, or other government sources, as his authority.

Another player in the gambit, is the pretended neutral. The pretended neutral will take almost none of the above actions, but will work in the background, until a vital move is needed. The pretended neutral will occasionally "vouch" for the other players in the gambit. The pretended neutral may even be the moderator of a group. When the pretended neutral is the moderator of a group, he will take no action, as long as the other players in the gambit are "holding their own". If the other players in the gambit are NOT "holding their own", THEN he will intervene; perhaps even by banning the most effective defenders of liberty.

The most effective defenders of liberty will be caught between all of these different players in the gambit. One dead "give away" is the fact that these different players in the gambit frequently are unable to conceal their support for one another; in spite of their alleged differences. The alleged religious zealot/patriot might be great friends with the admitted atheist/socialist. The false patriot; who is always accusing the most effective patriots of being false opposition, might be great friends with the admitted government apologist; whom he never accuses. The false patriot will even join the egroup that is run by the admitted government apologist, and will participate and support the admitted government apologist, in his own group.

If you will study the tactics used by the FBI COINTELPRO program.
THEN you will recognize FBI COINTELPRO immediately.
Visit:
http://bcn.boulder.co.us/environment/vail/ifanagentknocks.html
Take note of the following paragraph:
"The FBI COINTELPRO program was initiated in 1956. Its purpose, as
described later by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, was "to expose, disrupt,
misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize activities" of those
individuals and organizations whose ideas or goals he opposed. Tactics
included: falsely labeling individuals as informants; infiltrating groups
with persons instructed to disrupt the group; sending anonymous or forged
letters designed to promote strife between groups; initiating politically
motivated IRS investigations; carrying out burglaries of offices and
unlawful wiretaps; and disseminating to other government agencies and to
the media unlawfully obtained derogatory information on individuals and
groups."
If you understand the meaning of the tactic
"to expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize
activities"
you will understand that the person who is most likely of being a Fed,
is the one who involves patriots in activities that have no effect on those
who are building tyranny, and activities that will destroy the credibility of the patriots.
Those who are building tyranny would love to convince people that we are all a bunch of paranoid nuts,
so that we will we unable to warn people about the building of tyranny.
Those who are building tyranny
would be more capable of convincing people that we are
paranoid nuts, if they could convince a segment of the patriots to run
around telling people that the clouds, and the street signs,
are out to get us,
or that we should ban water.
If you understand the meaning of the tactic
"infiltrating groups with persons instructed to disrupt the group;
sending anonymous or forged letters designed to promote strife between
groups"
OR OF:
"disseminating to other government agencies and to
the media unlawfully obtained derogatory information on individuals and
groups."
THEN you will know that a campaign of personal attacks
on the real patriots is a part of the FBI COINTELPRO program.

If you understand the meaning of the tactic of
falsely labeling individuals as informants
THEN you will know that the person;
who is most likely to be a fed,
is the one who calls the real patriot a fed.
It is a common tactic of FBI COINTELPRO to try to
be THE FIRST ONE MAKE THE ACCUSATION.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.

The reader will notice that no one is named in this discussion.
If there is any person; who feels that this discussion accurately describes themselves,
that person is invited to comment.


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:12:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Cathy Garger <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com>
Subject: March for 9/11 Truth in NYC on President's Day - Interview with Greg Nixon

Interview about Feb 20 March for 9/11 Truth in NYC:

http://www.phillyimc.org/en/2006/02/19016.shtml

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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 00:30:11 -0000
From: "h9tech_47460" <h9tech_47460@yahoo.com>
Subject: Perna describes his worthless past and lack of a life

Summary on ZIONIST 'GAY FRIENDLY ' DISINFORMER John Bircher Perna:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/end-time-prophecies/message/14026
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ctrl/message/53360

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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:26:46 -0000
From: "Cathy Garger" <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Such a Dang Shame

Wow. That's interesting, Greg. They are going to attend, but was it
posted in their newsletter and maybe I missed it perhaps???

Laughed at your dream! LOVE THE IDEA! Now, all we have to do is find
a mother who lost a son at GZ who will say she is NOT leaving until
Guiliani comes and tells her why her son had to die for a lie! That
just might make media pay attention...

PS - Should we bring some supplies for your campout? I mean, I know
you're used to the cold and all, but it might get down to frigid
temps at night... lol.

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, greg nixon <nxngrg@...> wrote:
>
> NY9/11 called and will be in attendance for 2/20 NYC.
>
> I had a crazy dream last night that we all climbed over the fence
and began occupying the huge hole as a campground and would not leave
until the media addressed us.
>
> Cathy Garger <savorsuccesslady@...> wrote:
> Gee Shucks! Too bad they couldn't've waited till Monday to take
this pic, huh? The guy from the Netherlands wanted to see a big
group of people, but I guess that the NYC truth folks must've
forgotten all about the party at GZ Monday morning, Feb 20, Prez.
Day.... Guess it just slipped their minds???
>
> SATURDAY AT GROUND ZERO
>
> We're getting more media attention! A news producer from a
Netherlands TV station wants to film us at Ground Zero. However, he
says that to give the right impression, he wants to see a big group
of people there. I told him, sure, no problem. So this coming
Saturday lets get 40-50 people there. If the Falun Gong people can
create a strong street presence and be seen by everybody, shouldn't
we? Be there no later than 1 PM. As always, the weather has to be
clear and temperature no lower than 25 degrees. Just think, we'll be
helping to educate a European country about the reality of 9/11, the
military agenda the attacks enabled, and the whole range of
consequences we've been subjected to.
>
>
>
> news@... wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> We apologize to anyone who didn't get word that yesterday's event
at St. Marks Church was postponed due to the blizzard. I know most
did. We'll resume next Sunday.
>
> STRATEGY SESSION
>
> We'll meet Wed., 7 PM, at the deli at 13th St. and 5th Avenue in
the upstairs level. We'll continue working on new visual displays.
We'll put finishing touches in place for the legislative action
campaign. We'll work on our 2 minute presentation, basic talking
points, and how to deal with challenges.
>
> ABLE DANGER HEARING
>
> After a few months of waiting, the news is out that the Able Danger
Hearing will happen on Wednesday at
>
> http://www.abledangerblog.com
>
> Lou Dobbs, on CNN at 6 PM, gave Able Danger regular coverage in
December. He'll have Curt Weldon on Wed. evening, and more coverage
Thurs. and Fri.
>
> If we had a week's notice we could have organized a group to go
down. However, Kyle Hence will be there and hopefully some local DC
folks. If anybody else can go, by all means get there. Here's a
message from Curt Weldon who has convened the hearings which contains
details.
>
> The following message was sent out today to those who have
contacted Weldon's office regarding Able Danger:
>
>
> Thank you for taking the time over the past few months to
contact me regarding the Able Danger - a Department of Defense
planning effort prior to 9/11 tasked to identify and target the
linkages and relationships of Al-Qaeda worldwide. Your voice has
played a crucial role in getting 248 Members of Congress to ask for
Congressional Hearings. I wanted to update you about the progress
that has been made on Able Danger with your help.
>
>
> First, I would like to thank the House Armed Services Committee
Chairman Duncan Hunter for his leadership in pursuing Able Danger
hearings, as well as Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England for
his support on behalf of the Pentagon.
>
>
> Following a long congressional recess where staff was busy
preparing for this hearing, I am pleased to announce that on
Wednesday, 15 February 2006 at 2:30 p.m. in 2118 Rayburn House Office
Building, the House Armed Services Strategic Forces and Terrorism,
Unconventional Threats and Capabilities Subcommittees have
tentatively scheduled a joint hearing for open and closed testimony
on the Able Danger effort. Witnesses have not yet been scheduled as
interviews are ongoing. A complete list of witnesses should be
available by close of business on Monday, February 13, 2006.
>
>
> Thank you for your ongoing interest. I would ask that you
communicate with your Member of Congress and express how important
Able Danger hearings are and thank them for their support. I will
continue to keep you updated as hearings progress.
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> Curt Weldon
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> SATURDAY AT GROUND ZERO
>
> We're getting more media attention! A news producer from a
Netherlands TV station wants to film us at Ground Zero. However, he
says that to give the right impression, he wants to see a big group
of people there. I told him, sure, no problem. So this coming
Saturday lets get 40-50 people there. If the Falun Gong people can
create a strong street presence and be seen by everybody, shouldn't
we? Be there no later than 1 PM. As always, the weather has to be
clear and temperature no lower than 25 degrees. Just think, we'll be
helping to educate a European country about the reality of 9/11, the
military agenda the attacks enabled, and the whole range of
consequences we've been subjected to.
>
> BLOG BRIGADE
>
> Is there anyone out there who is heaving into blogging? We're
looking for people who visit and post to blogs to create our own 9/11
Blog Brigade. This will be an important and effective outreach group
that will help us "become the media". You would cover 5 blogs and
post breaking 9/11 related news. I'll bet at least a few of you are
doing this already. So get in touch ASAP and we'll get organized.
>
> As a reminder, to correspond please contact me directly at
jazzyday@... Do not mail to this list, which is just for
announcements.
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 22:59:48 -0800
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
Subject: RE: Documentary

Seems to be a lot of documentary film makers and RPG people trying to get on
groups and post stuff the last week.

I’ve never seen anything like this before…

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[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dustin
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:50 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] Documentary

Hello All,

I'd first like to introduce myself. My name is Dustin and I'm a freelance
documentary
filmmaker living in Los Angeles. I stumbled upon Professor Steven Jones'
Utah lecture (and
then David Ray Griffin's Wisconsin lecture) and was simply astounded at the
evidence.
Needless to say, I am now unable to believe the official version of events.

With the introduction aside, I'm calling out to anyone living in Los Angeles
or the near
vicinity to come forward and contact me. I'm currently seeking out
interviews on this
subject. If anyone is interested, please let me know on this bulletin
board.

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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:21:31 -0000
From: "John Perna" <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Throw a rock in a pen full of pigs: the one that squeals is the one that you hit

I mentioned false patriots,
WITHOUT MENTIONING ANYONE'S NAME,
and
Look who takes offense, and pops in, to comment.
I did not mention anyone's name,
but apparently someone feels that this is about them.

It is safe to conclude that if one were to throw a rock into a pen
full of
pigs,
and one of them squealed,
that the one that squealed,
would be the one that you had hit.
Who is it that says that this "shoe fits"?
It is a good dog, who knows his name,
and comes when he is called.

False patriots are people who distract patriots from defending
freedom.
AMONG MANY OTHER TACTICS,
they do this by:
1. Deceiving patriots into supporting hoaxes.

If a simple request for evidence gives rise to a vitriolic personal
attack,
or an attempt to censor, rather than the addressing of the issue,
then one can only assume that the attacker has no other way to
respond.
Any time that a simple request for evidence gives rise to a
vitriolic personal attack,
you can be assured that you are dealing with a hoax.
2. Dividing patriots into fighting each other by creating strife
among
patriots
3. Deceiving patriots into creating class struggle by promoting
ethnic
hatred.
4. Attempting to Waste the time of patriots, by forcing them to
respond
to personal attacks.
5. Using multiple aliases to create the appearance that there is
someone, who believes them to be credible.
6. ABOVE ALL: Accusing the most effective patriots of being false
opposition.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
IT WILL BE QUITE CLEAR WHO IT IS, THAT DOES THESE THINGS,
IF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT IT.

Any person; who does ALL of the above is certain to be a false
patriot.

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "h9tech_47460"
<h9tech_47460@...> wrote:
>
> Summary on ZIONIST 'GAY FRIENDLY ' DISINFORMER John Bircher Perna:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/end-time-prophecies/message/1426
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ctrl/message/5360
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, John Perna
> <savefreed0m2oo3@> burbled:
> >
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:51:57 -0000
From: "zionistexposer5e" <zionistexposer5e@yahoo.com>
Subject: WHY even call this group 'TRUTH' ACTION with the likes of Perna posting???

Perna speaks of pigs yet it is HE who's parroted the party line
that 'The Arabs Done it' regarding 911 and parroted the party line that
cell phones can actually be used from airplanes above 4000 feet.

I and others here have CLEARLY shown how ZIONISTS and Israel were
involved in 911 and are setting up for the NEXT war.

How Stew Webb DISINFO on 911 is pushed by other FRAUDS like Eric May.

So ask yourselves WHY the moderators here would PREFER you suck down
DISINFORMATION from the likes of a 'GAY FRIENDLY DISINFORMER like Perna
rather than the TRUTH???

Sounds to me like this group is named incorrectly.

Only those with something to HIDE resort to CENSORSHIP!

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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:01:39 -0800 (PST)
From: John Perna <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Ask your congressman to cosponsor H. R. 1146 to get out of the U. N.

Ask your congressman to cosponsor H. R. 1146 to get out of the U. N.
UN Reform Isn't the Answer
by John F. McManus
The proper response to cries for UN reform and restructuring is for our nation to leave. Even with veto power, the UN remains a constant threat to freedom.
Flag wavers for the United Nations like to point out that nations large and small have a voice in the "world forum." For instance, Julian Hunte of minuscule Saint Lucia (population: 160,000) currently finds himself as the president of the General Assembly.
But the power in the UN doesn't reside in the General Assembly; it's located in the Security Council. Originally made up of only 11 members (four more were added in 1965), only five have ever been designated "permanent" and each of these possesses a veto over Security Council decisions. (Non-permanent members serve for only two years, and their places are then awarded to others.) The language in the UN Charter's Article 27 states that Security Council decisions must include "the concurring votes of the permanent members." The five permanent members originally named were the Republic of China (Taiwan), France, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, and the United States. Two of these memberships were later transferred to the People's Republic of China and Russia.
Possession of veto power supposedly assures Americans that no Security Council resolution would ever unfavorably impact the United States. The veto power's very existence persuaded some of the senators in 1945 that there was nothing to fear by approving UN membership. Most surely expected that our nation's leaders would always use the veto to protect America's interests, an expectation that is by no means realistic today.
Still, because possession of the veto power leaves the door open for any of the five permanent members especially the United States to thwart UN designs, a rising number of UN partisans have suggested that it be abolished. In December 1985, for instance, World Federalist Association Vice President John Logue testified before a subcommittee of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. He stridently called for action to "reform, restructure and strengthen the United Nations." To "be able to make and enforce law on the individual," he pointedly declared, "the Security Council veto must go."
Though Logue may have been ahead of the pack, the number of those wanting to reform the UN as he suggested has grown. During a convocation at Notre Dame University in April 1991, retired President Father Theodore Hesburgh called for restructuring the UN in part by "eliminating the veto possessed by the five permanent Security Council members." An unabashed partisan of the "new world order," Hesburgh has spent much of his adult life joining and playing an important role in various globalist organizations.
In April 1996, former Soviet dictator Mikhail Gorbachev convened a gathering in Bhurban, Pakistan. Delegates to the affair produced a 12-plank "Bhurban Statement" urging that the UN "should become the principal custodian of global human security." To accomplish this goal, stated the document: "There should be no veto power."
Canadian oil billionaire and New Age heavyweight Maurice Strong has served the UN in a variety of ways, including secretary-general of the UN's 1992 "Earth Summit" and senior adviser to UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan. He has frequently called for revising the UN's structure, including the removal of the Security Council veto.
In 2000, the little-known United Nations University (UNU) produced a study offering the following conclusion: "To respect sovereignty is to be complicit in human rights violations." Formed in 1973 to assist the UN in resolving "global problems," the UNU produces recommendations such as urging the world body to "remove the Great Power veto" to facilitate its ability to sanction "humanitarian war."
In 2003, David Davenport of the supposedly conservative Hoover Institution suggested that the UN could become a "more effective decision-making body" by limiting the veto power to a requirement that "at least two nations exercise it to be effective." The Weekly Standard, also a supposedly conservative voice, has called for eliminating the veto power.
Brookings Institution senior research analyst Parag Khanna authored an op-ed piece for the December 6, 2003 New York Times proposing ways to make the world body function more efficiently. Khanna wants the UN to add Japan and India to the roster of Security Council permanent members, collapse the French and British places into a single seat for the European Union, and further beef up the permanent membership by awarding slots to the Organization of American States, the League of Arab States and the African Union. "But most importantly," he wrote, "if the United States sincerely wants a more effective Security Council, it will have to relinquish its veto power in favor of majority voting."
The Brookings Institution is currently led by former Time magazine columnist and former Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott. Perhaps his most revealing utterance is that in the next hundred years "nationhood as we know it will be obsolete."
For an American, the proper response to cries for UN reform and restructuring is to demand that our nation leave the world body altogether. Even with veto power, a succession of U.S. administrations has shown little interest in using it to protect our nation's independence.


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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:16:10 -0800 (PST)
From: John Perna <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Shifting discussion from issue to messenger

Shifting discussion from issue to messenger

Those who argue for truth can use facts, and provide evidence.
Those who argue for fiction must resort to insults, and personal attacks.
A charleton will generally resort to insults, and personal attacks;
PARTICULARLY in dealing with a person who exposes his hoax.

Attempting to shift the discussion from the message to the messenger,
is an admission of the lack of convincing factual information.
Attempting to shift the discussion from the issues to the messenger,
is an admission of defeat in the ideological arena.

Great minds discuss ideas
average mind discuss events
Small minds discuss people.

Attempting to shift the discussion from the issues to the messenger
sometimes indicates a short fall in the intellectual capabilites,
that are required for the discussion of ideas.

If a simple request for evidence gives rise to a vitriolic personal attack,
or an attempt to censor, rather than the addressing of the issue,
then one can only assume that the attacker has no other way to respond.
Any time that a simple request for evidence gives rise to a vitriolic personal attack,
you can be assured that you are dealing with a hoax.
Attempting to shift the discussion from the issues to the messenger,
is a favorite tactic of disinformers.
Ask yourself this question:
What would the disinformers do, if a DIFFERENT PERSON ASKED for evidence on his hoax?

Would he find a new personal attack for that DIFFERENT PERSON?
What would he do if STILL ANOTHER PERSON asked him for evidence to support
his hoaxes?
Would he find a new personal attack for that OTHER PERSON TOO?
What would he do if STILL ANOTHER PERSON asked him for evidence to support
his hoaxes?
Would he just keep on finding a new personal attack for EVERY PERSON, WHO
asks him for evidence to support his hoaxes?
How long can he keep that up?

Is there anyone; who is actually so stupid that they do not understand
that they are only making these personal attacks because you CANNOT RESPOND
WITH EVIDENCE?

It is generally not necessary to respond to an ad hominem, other than by
pointing out that that is what it is. A person; who repeatedly resorts to ad
hominems, has already discredited himself before every logical and
intelligent person.

Fallacy: Ad Hominem- "Ad Hominem" means "against the man" or "against the
person."

An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or
argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author
of, or the person presenting the claim, or argument.

Typically, this fallacy involves two steps.

First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, his
circumstances, or his actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or
actions of the person reporting the claim).

Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument
the person in question is making (or presenting). The person, who is unable
to refute the message, with facts, attacks the messenger instead. This is an
act of desperation, that is meant to be face saving. In reality, it is an
admission of a defeat in the philosophical exchange.

No matter what is, or is not, true about the messenger, it would be completely
irrelevant.

It is abominable to be reduced COMPLETELY to nothing more than attacking the
messenger.

Every person; who understands logic, knows that attacking the messenger is a
last ditch desperate tactic ; that is only resorted to by a person who is
NOT logical, AND ONLY when that person has already realized that there is no
way TO USE LOGICAL, FACTUAL INFORMATION TO AVOID BEING PROVEN WRONG.

Shifting the discussion from the message, to the messenger,
is generally an indication of a short fall in the intellectual capacity to
discuss ideas.

A person who repeatly resorts to Ad Hominems is subjecting himself to FAR
GREATER embarrassment than it would have been to simply admit that he has
lost the debate.

Apparently there are those who JUST CANNOT RESIST THE URGE TO CHANGE THE
DEBATE FROM THE ISSUE TO THE PERSON. I have never asked anyone to believe
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:59:57 -0000
From: "zionistexposer5e" <zionistexposer5e@yahoo.com>
Subject: How many HERE would agree with these posts??

A LOOONG and clear pattern of DECEIT and provacateurism is evident by
Perna. He has NO LIFE and spends day after day after DAY online
harassing Yahoo groups and spewing DISINFORMATION.

Examples:

How many here at 911TRUTHAction would agree with this
DISINFORMATION???

How many here actually BELIEVE cell phone calls were made from the
planes as the PROPAGANDA says.
Perna says so!

Mythical Arabs aboard Flight 175??? Perna Parrots the PROPAGANDA
again!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terrorinamerica2001/message/38267

And another one:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terrorinamerica2001/message/38274
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terrorinamerica2001/message/38278
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terrorinamerica2001/message/38324
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terrorinamerica2001/message/38325
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terrorinamerica2001/message/38351

Perna Pushes the USAma Party line
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terrorinamerica2001/message/42743
By the way I DO encourage you to read the posts of mine Perna whines
about here for YOURSELVES.
Which government does Perna work for? Israeli???

Again, exposing Israel makes you 'Al-CIA-Duh' according to Perna
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terrorinamerica2001/message/42773

Do you believe what the Air Force says? Perna DOES!
Air Force statement on the "Chemtrail" Hoax
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terrorinamerica2001/message/42661
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terrorinamerica2001/message/37982

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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:37:51 -0800 (PST)
From: John Perna <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
Subject: What an Al Qaeda disinformer would do

Hypothetically let us just suppose that Al Qaeda was paying a few American citizens to spread disinformation.
What kind of disinformation would a paid Al Qaeda disinformer be spreading?

Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that Al Qaeda did not have anything to do with the 9-11-2001 WTO,
and pentagon, terrorism.
Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that it was not even Arabs AT ALL.
Maybe he would even try to deceive Americans to believe that was Jews, and zionists.
Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that there were not even any hijackers,
but that the planes were remote controlled.
Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that Osama Bin Laden never admitted responsibility,
in a message that was meant to be heard only by his followers; but not by the American people.

Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should blame EVERYTHING on Jews, and zionists, and Israel.
Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that all of the real patriots are zionists; and therefore, evil.

Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
and watch out for those sinister little plastic stickers, on the road signs.

Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
and watch out for those sinister exhaust trails, that are behind by every jet in the world.

Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
and watch out for scores of other hoaxes.
If a simple request for evidence gives rise to a vitriolic personal attack,
or an attempt to censor, rather than the addressing of the issue,
then one can only assume that the attacker has no other way to respond.
Any time that a simple request for evidence gives rise to a vitriolic personal attack,
you can be assured that you are dealing with a hoax.


Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
and take up fighting other patriots, AND maybe he would even do everything that he could do,
to create strife amongst the patriots. Perhaps would present himself as a defender of liberty,
BUT he then spend most of his time attacking the defenders of liberty, under numerous pretenses.

Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
and try to deceive patriots into creating class struggle by promoting ethnic
hatred.

Maybe he would try to stop patriots from opposing Al Qaeda supporters,
by attempting to waste the time of patriots, by forcing them to respond
to personal attacks, and endless debate about trivia.

Maybe he would use multiple aliases to create the appearance that there is
someone, who believes him to be credible.

Maybe he would accuse the most effective patriots of being false
opposition.

He might even be a member of the Al Qaeda egroup.

DOES THIS SOUND LIKE ANYONE THAT WE KNOW?

This does not mention anyone's name.
If there is anyone who thinks that this description accurately
applies to himself,
that person is invited to comment.


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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 06:38:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Cathy Garger <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com>
Subject: Offlist maybe...But This is HYSTERICAL!!!!! Cheney's Got A Gun

OH MY GOSH this is THE BEST THING I have heard in FOREVER!!! This is FAR BETTER than Christmas!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS- Yay!!! Cindy Sheehan got mentioned!!!

YEEEEE HAAAAAAAA!!!!

Thank you, dear NT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cathy

NT > wrote:

http://rickdavismusic.com/cheneysgotagun.mp3

Sing along!! LOL

Earlier I sent an article by Bob Herbert "Mr. VP, it's time to go" --
He says Harry Whittington is Cheney's Monica - and this issue is not going away. I'll be doing all I can to promote it - hoping he'll be so radioactive
that no Repub candidate will want to be seen with the bastard!


HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS!!


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ImpeachBushNOW

The world can only be redeemed through action--movement -- motion. Uncoerced, unbribed and unbought, humanity will move toward the light.
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:47:15 -0000
From: "zionistexposer6f" <zionistexposer6f@yahoo.com>
Subject: Apparently 'Crypto-ZIONISTS' control this forum also!

NOTE how TRUTH is treated here folks! A scumbag GAY FRIENDLY Zionist
disinformer Perna, is treated with kid gloves, but the moderators here
want the TRUTH ACTUALLY CENSORED... Hmmmmm!

Go Figure!

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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:49:39 -0000
From: "zionistexposer6f" <zionistexposer6f@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: What an Al Qaeda disinformer would do

NOTE that this puts Perna directly at odds with MOST 911 TRUTH
SEEKERS especially Eric Huffshmidt who supplied the URL on 'Crypto-
ZIONISTS' which Perna fits to a 'T'.

What's going on here folks? Don't you want to stop the NEXT '911'??

THEN STOP ISRAEL!!

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, John Perna
<savefreed0m2oo3@...> wrote:
>
> Hypothetically let us just suppose that Al Qaeda was paying a few
American citizens to spread disinformation.
> What kind of disinformation would a paid Al Qaeda disinformer be
spreading?
>
> Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that Al Qaeda
did not have anything to do with the 9-11-2001 WTO,
> and pentagon, terrorism.
> Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that it was not
even Arabs AT ALL.
> Maybe he would even try to deceive Americans to believe that was
Jews, and zionists.
> Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that there were
not even any hijackers,
> but that the planes were remote controlled.
> Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that Osama Bin
Laden never admitted responsibility,
> in a message that was meant to be heard only by his followers; but
not by the American people.
>
> Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should
blame EVERYTHING on Jews, and zionists, and Israel.
> Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that all of the
real patriots are zionists; and therefore, evil.
>
> Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should
stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> and watch out for those sinister little plastic stickers, on the
road signs.
>
> Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should
stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> and watch out for those sinister exhaust trails, that are behind by
every jet in the world.
>
> Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should
stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> and watch out for scores of other hoaxes.
> If a simple request for evidence gives rise to a vitriolic
personal attack,
> or an attempt to censor, rather than the addressing of the issue,
> then one can only assume that the attacker has no other way to
respond.
> Any time that a simple request for evidence gives rise to a
vitriolic personal attack,
> you can be assured that you are dealing with a hoax.
>
>
>
> Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should
stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> and take up fighting other patriots, AND maybe he would even do
everything that he could do,
> to create strife amongst the patriots. Perhaps would present
himself as a defender of liberty,
> BUT he then spend most of his time attacking the defenders of
liberty, under numerous pretenses.
>
> Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we should
stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> and try to deceive patriots into creating class struggle by
promoting ethnic
> hatred.
>
> Maybe he would try to stop patriots from opposing Al Qaeda
supporters,
> by attempting to waste the time of patriots, by forcing them to
respond
> to personal attacks, and endless debate about trivia.
>
> Maybe he would use multiple aliases to create the appearance that
there is
> someone, who believes him to be credible.
>
> Maybe he would accuse the most effective patriots of being false
> opposition.
>
> He might even be a member of the Al Qaeda egroup.
>
> DOES THIS SOUND LIKE ANYONE THAT WE KNOW?
>
> This does not mention anyone's name.
> If there is anyone who thinks that this description accurately
> applies to himself,
> that person is invited to comment.
>
>
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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:55:40 -0500
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: Three on Pimp/Whore Huddled-Masses Media

Forwarded with Compliments of Government of the USA in Exile (GUSAE):
Free Americans Resisting the Fourth Reich on Behalf of All Species.
NOTE: Thanks to Peter Myers for the third of these. -- kl, pp

From: Henri the Celt <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Date: February 15, 2006 2:50:14 PM EST
To: AAAHenri <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Subject: Fw: Knight-Ridder bangs the war drums

"...it could just as easily be argued that an Iranian nuclear bomb
would stabilize the region by putting limits on Israel's ability to act
unilaterally in using nuclear weapons, as it has threatened to do."
Iran: Knight-Ridder Bangs the War Drums

February 13, 2005  From: Iron_Clay

Knight-Ridder newspapers are out with a major article on Iranian
nuclear activities; it's splashed all over page 3A of today's San Jose
Mercury News, complete with ominous maps showing the alleged range of
Iran's Shahab missiles (being sure to note that "American troops in the
region" are at risk, naturally without asking the question of what
those troops are doing there in the first place), ominous "Colin Powell
at the U.N."-style aerial photos showing alleged underground buildings
(quite a trick in an aerial photo) and alleged "dummy buildings
covering the entrance to an underground truck road" (again, quite a
deduction from an aerial photo). Here's the article's lead sentence:

Tehran's insistence on enriching uranium could destabilize a volatile
region, wreak havoc on energy markets and bring nuclear weapons to an
Islamic theocracy.

Throughout the article, which is more than a thousand words long, there
is not one word to indicate that enriched uranium is used in nuclear
power plants; it is simply assumed that "Tehran's insistence on
enriching uranium" is due to an intent to build a bomb. Iran's denial
that it has any such intent? Never mentioned in the article.

And the "options" which the article lays out for the "international
community" to "deal" with Iraq? Sanctions, "beef up treaty"
("significantly increase the diplomatic costs of Iraq ever deploying
nuclear weapons," whatever that means), "strengthen regional defenses,"
"bypass the Persian Gulf" (meaning take Saudi Arabian oil by a
different route), and military strikes. There are five options, some of
them peaceful, so why did I title this post "Knight-Ridder bangs the
war drums"? Because the entire thrust of this article is to convince
the American people that there is a "problem" that "we" have to "deal
with." Which, in the end, is quite likely to mean war of some kind, a
war which articles like this will have pre-conditioned the American
people to accept and support.

I mentioned that there is no clue in this article that enriched
uranium is used in nuclear power plants and not just in nuclear bombs.
There's another subject missing from the article, and if anything it's
even more astonishing than that. The word "Israel" does not appear in
this article. How bizarre is that? Here's one quote from the article:
"Arab states also will have to worry that Iran's possession of nuclear
weapons will embolden Tehran to revert to a more aggressive foreign
policy." Arab states? Not Israel? A map accompanying the article
showing "a nuclear world" even includes this curiously circumspect
description: "Israel neither confirms nor denies possessing nuclear
weapons. United States intelligence reports have labelled Israel as a
de facto nuclear power for years." An uneducated reader would clearly
be left thinking this was still an open question. After all, we all
know "United States intelligence reports" were wrong about Iraqi WMD,
clearly, they might be wrong about this too. And, by the way, what the
heck is a "de facto" nuclear power? What other kind is there? Elsewhere
in another sidebar describing "the role of the IAEA," the reader does
learn than Israel is "estimated to own 200 nuclear warheads," but it's
curious this information doesn't appear on the map's label of Israel
itself

The curious (and absolutely intentional) omission of Israel from the
article has an obvious effect on the central conclusion of the article.
The author claims that Iran's "enriching uranium" (by which he means
build nuclear weapons, as I've already discussed) "could destabilize a
volatile region," but, had he noted that Israel is the sole nuclear
power in the region, it could just as easily be argued that an Iranian
nuclear bomb would stabilize the region by putting limits on Israel's
ability to act unilaterally in using nuclear weapons, as it has
threatened to do.

http://www.uruknet.com/?p=m20622&hd=0&size=1&l=e

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From: "Graham Jukes" <grahamjukes@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: February 14, 2006 6:35:49 PM EST
Subject: Frog-marching the Media to the Gallows

Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:33 PM
Subject: Frog-marching the Media to the Gallows

From: FPF
To: ifj@ifj.org
Cc: The New York Times Direct
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:35 PM
Subject: Frog-marching the Media to the Gallows

Frog-marching the Media to the Gallows
http://tinyurl.com/ccanu

THESE INHUMANS IN THE MEDIA ARE WAR CRIMINALS AND MUST BE PUNISHED BY
LAW.

They are to blame: the media traitors, cowards and killers. We'll
remember their names!

FPF/HR: I've said it before and will keep repeating it: many people who
before have been journalists have turned into treacherous killers. They
have with their collaboration in the global crimes against humanity,
become more than guilty.

AND AGAIN: I'VE SAID IT BEFORE AND WILL KEEP REPEATING IT: WITHOUT THE
COLLABORATION OF SO MANY MEDIA PEOPLE, ALL HORRIBLE SLAUGHTER AND WARS
WOULD ABSOLUTELY NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE.

Without the warmonger's propaganda smeared out globally by those
traitors in the media, the vile neocon men and women working at
criminal rags like the New York Times, and the 'Judas Millers' of this
underworld:

THE IMMENSE SUFFERING FOLLOWING THE AMERICAN GUNBOAT POLICIES WOULD
NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE.

At the coming War Tribunals, the media people who betrayed us all, must
be first in line among the accused culprits.
In Nuremberg, after the collaboration with the other Nazis, they also
were hanged or shot. I prefer life long hard labor in jail for them.
Until the end of their traitors' lives making coffins for the victims
of their media atrocities.

THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE BY MIKE WHITNEY IS STRAIGHT FROM MY SENIOR
JOURNALIST'S HEART TOO: I WANT TO SEE THEM IN JAIL!

They not only helped kill people: they killed our profession.


Frog-Marching the Media to the Gallows

By Mike Whitney

02/12/06 "ICH" -- No one knows better than the editors of the New York
Times that Iran does not have nuclear weapons or a nuclear weapons
program. The Times editors comb through mountains of information every
day and have not yet produced even a shred of evidence to support their
fraudulent claims.

NOTHING.

So what¹s the game here? Is the Times willing to sacrifice what¹s left
of its tattered credibility just to pave the way to another unprovoked
war?

IT SEEMS SO.

Apart their from their daily updates, which are invariably skewed
against Iran, their February 8 editorial reiterated at least 5 times
that Iran was developing nuclear weapons.

HUH?

According to the Times, Iran has continued to pursue "its two-decade
long drive to build nuclear weapons". The editorial suggests that it
would be preferable if the Iranian government was "more willing to put
the economic future of its people ahead of building nuclear bombs."

"NUCLEAR BOMBS"?

But, where¹s the proof? Or is the Times simply circulating the same
speculation, hearsay, and gibberish it did prior to the war with Iraq?

If the Times has knowledge of proscribed weapons-programs they should
come forward and dispute the findings of the foremost nuclear weapons
inspection team in the world (the IAEA), which has consistently found
"no evidence" of nuclear weapons programs.

The Times charges are also refuted by the NIE (National Intelligence
Estimate) which projects that Iran will not be capable of building
nuclear weapons for at least 10 years.

A STEADY STREAM OF BASELESS ACCUSATIONS

The Times, of course, needs neither evidence nor intelligence to
achieve its objective of fabricating a crisis. They simply rely on a
steady stream of baseless accusations that contribute to the rising
public anxiety.

Judith Miller may have left, but her legacy of deceit still courses
through the paper of record like a raging torrent. The strategy for
manipulating public opinion never changes. The media settles on a
narrative grounded in pure fantasy and simply repeats the same fiction
over and over again from its many outlets.

The Times has proved once again that the elite-media is a steadfast
partner in mobilizing the masses for unpopular wars. Despite the
countless thousands of innocent people who have already been killed by
the Times fear-mongering coverage of "imaginary" Iraqi WMD, the editors
continue to use the corporate-bullhorn to call the nation to arms.

IT IS TRULY OUTRAGEOUS.

When America's war of terror finally concludes, the international
community will have to determine the culpability of the media in
abetting the vast devastation, war crimes, and crimes against humanity.

No one should be surprised if the first group frog-marched to the
gallows is the editorial staff of the New York Times.

Their guilt was already established long before Iran.

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British Propaganda Passed Off as News Around the World

Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 06:12:16 -0000 From: "Rowan Berkeley"
<rowan_berkeley@yahoo.co.uk>

The propaganda we pass off as news around the world

A British government-funded fake TV news service allows mild criticism
of the US
- all the better to support it

David Miller, The Guardian (London), Wednesday February 15, 2006
http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,1709959,00.html

A succession of scandals in the US has revealed widespread government
funding of
PR agencies to produce "fake news". Actors take the place of
journalists and the
"news" is broadcast as if it were genuine. The same practice has been
adopted in
Iraq, where newspapers have been paid to insert copy. These stories
have raised
the usual eyebrows in the UK about the pitiful quality of US democracy.
Things
are better here, we imply. We have a prime minister who claimed in 2004
that
"the values that drive our actions abroad are the same values of
progress and
justice that drive us at home". Yet in 2002 the government launched a
littleknown television propaganda service that seems to mimic the US
government's deceptive approach to fake news.

The British Satellite News website says it is "a free television news
and
features service". It looks like an ordinary news website, though its
lack of
copyright protection might raise some questions in alert journalists.
Broadcasters can put BSN material "directly into daily news
programmes". In
fact, BSN is provided by World Television, a company that also makes
corporate
videos and fake news clips for corporations such as GlaxoSmithKline, BP
and
Nestlé. It also produced Towards Freedom Television on behalf of the UK
government. This was a propaganda programme broadcast in Iraq by US army
psychological-operations teams from a specially adapted aircraft in
2003/04.

World Television produces the fake news, but its efforts are entirely
funded by
the Foreign Office, which spent £340m on propaganda activities in the
UK alone
in 2001. A comprehensive post- 9/11 overhaul means that this figure has
probably
markedly increased since then.

According to World Television, by November 2003 BSN "news" was being
"used
regularly by 14 of the 17 Middle East countries". "Over 400 stations
around the
world receive BSN stories," it claims. "185 are regular users of the
stories,
including broadcasters in Russia, Germany, Africa, Malaysia, Indonesia,
Japan
and Australia."

The diet of "news" received by viewers of the service includes an
endless
pageant of government ministers and other official spokespeople. Recent
headlines on Iraq refer to happy news such as "Prime minister in
surprise visit
to Iraq" (December 22 2005) or "Iraqi ambassador upbeat on elections"
(December
14 2005). Often Chatham House provides the venue for policy
discussions, as in:
"The psychology of terror - experts meet" (December 23 2005).

Questioning the occupation is out of the question, but some criticism
of US
policy is possible. In an extraordinary apologia for the British
occupation of
Iraq in 1920, the "suggested intro" reads: "This year is not the first
time an
outside power has sought to construct a modern, democratic, liberal
state in
Iraq. Britain tried to do the same in the 1920s". The benevolence of
the US and
the UK is simply assumed: "Today's USled coalition, like the imperial
occupiers
of 80 years ago, are trying to free Iraq's government and security
services from
corruption and abuse."

But the clumsy strategy of the US is potentially "alienating a large
section of
the population". So the question arises of what "useful lessons could
be drawn"
from the British experience. In reality the 1920 occupation led
immediately to a
popular revolt that was ruthlessly suppressed. A puppet monarchy was
imposed,
which was neither "modern" nor "democratic" but was, as argued by the
historian
Mark Curtis, one of the least popular in Middle Eastern history.

The BSN strategy seems to be to emphasise Britain's cultural diversity.
Bulletins regularly highlight ethnicminority contributions to the UK and
interview leading moderate Muslims. But it is possible to hear muted
criticism
of Israel. One item featured "A leading Israeli academic who has
questioned both
the wisdom and the effectiveness of the controversial 'separation
fence'."

A clue to the thinking behind this lies in a 2003 report for the
Foreign Policy
Centre (FPC) thinktank, coauthored by its then director Mark Leonard.
He advised
the Foreign Office on its Public Diplomacy Review in 2002 and was later
appointed to the resulting Public Diplomacy Strategy Board, which
directs
Foreign Office propaganda strategy. Leonard wrote in 2002: "If a
message will
engender distrust simply because it is coming from a foreign government
then the
government should hide that fact as much as possible." The FPC report
suggests
the British government should not be afraid of "bloodying the
Americans' noses"
in its propaganda messages on Israel/Palestine. They must "ensure that
the
differences between UK and American positions and thinking are
emphasised". The
point is to tackle the perception that Britain "apishly follows every
American
lead" so the "usefulness" of "UK support for the US" is increased.

This strategy of criticising the US, in order to support it better,
conforms to
Blair's wider Iraq strategy. It is clear from documents leaked over the
past
year (such as the Downing Street memo) that the plan was to use the UN
as a
device for gaining legitimacy for the invasion of Iraq. All this makes
a mockery
of Blair's claims to progressive values. Indeed it suggests that such
claims are
themselves cynical propaganda.

[David Miller is professor of sociology at Strathclyde University, see
also
www.spinwatch.org ]

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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:00:27 -0000
From: "jessecrat" <jessecrat@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: What an Al Qaeda disinformer would do

A person who promotes this many hoaxes all over the internet does
not help any cause that he supports. Why is this person upset by a
post against "an Al Qaeda disinformer"?

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "zionistexposer6f"
<zionistexposer6f@...> wrote:
>
> NOTE that this puts Perna directly at odds with MOST 911 TRUTH
> SEEKERS especially Eric Huffshmidt who supplied the URL on 'Crypto-
> ZIONISTS' which Perna fits to a 'T'.
>
> What's going on here folks? Don't you want to stop the
NEXT '911'??
>
> THEN STOP ISRAEL!!
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, John Perna
> <savefreed0m2oo3@> wrote:
> >
> > Hypothetically let us just suppose that Al Qaeda was paying a
few
> American citizens to spread disinformation.
> > What kind of disinformation would a paid Al Qaeda disinformer be
> spreading?
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that Al
Qaeda
> did not have anything to do with the 9-11-2001 WTO,
> > and pentagon, terrorism.
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that it was
not
> even Arabs AT ALL.
> > Maybe he would even try to deceive Americans to believe that was
> Jews, and zionists.
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that there
were
> not even any hijackers,
> > but that the planes were remote controlled.
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that Osama
Bin
> Laden never admitted responsibility,
> > in a message that was meant to be heard only by his followers;
but
> not by the American people.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> blame EVERYTHING on Jews, and zionists, and Israel.
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that all of
the
> real patriots are zionists; and therefore, evil.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> > and watch out for those sinister little plastic stickers, on the
> road signs.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> > and watch out for those sinister exhaust trails, that are behind
by
> every jet in the world.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> > and watch out for scores of other hoaxes.
> > If a simple request for evidence gives rise to a
vitriolic
> personal attack,
> > or an attempt to censor, rather than the addressing of the
issue,
> > then one can only assume that the attacker has no other way to
> respond.
> > Any time that a simple request for evidence gives rise to a
> vitriolic personal attack,
> > you can be assured that you are dealing with a hoax.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> > and take up fighting other patriots, AND maybe he would even do
> everything that he could do,
> > to create strife amongst the patriots. Perhaps would present
> himself as a defender of liberty,
> > BUT he then spend most of his time attacking the defenders of
> liberty, under numerous pretenses.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> > and try to deceive patriots into creating class struggle by
> promoting ethnic
> > hatred.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to stop patriots from opposing Al Qaeda
> supporters,
> > by attempting to waste the time of patriots, by forcing them to
> respond
> > to personal attacks, and endless debate about trivia.
> >
> > Maybe he would use multiple aliases to create the appearance
that
> there is
> > someone, who believes him to be credible.
> >
> > Maybe he would accuse the most effective patriots of being
false
> > opposition.
> >
> > He might even be a member of the Al Qaeda egroup.
> >
> > DOES THIS SOUND LIKE ANYONE THAT WE KNOW?
> >
> > This does not mention anyone's name.
> > If there is anyone who thinks that this description accurately
> > applies to himself,
> > that person is invited to comment.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Brings words and photos together (easily) with
> > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
> >
>

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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:18:53 -0000
From: "John Perna" <savefreed0m2oo3@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: What an Al Qaeda disinformer would do

Notice the last paragraph of my original post
about an Al Qaeda disinformer
> This does not mention anyone's name.
> If there is anyone who thinks that this description accurately
> applies to himself,
> that person is invited to comment.

I mentioned Disinformers,
WITHOUT MENTIONING ANYONE'S NAME,
and
Look who takes offense, and pops in, to comment.
I did not mention anyone's name,
but apparently someone feels that this is about them.

It is safe to conclude that if one were to throw a rock into a pen
full of
pigs,
and one of them squealed,
that the one that squealed,
would be the one that you had hit.
Who is it that says that this "shoe fits"?
It is a good dog, who knows his name,
and comes when he is called.

NEUTRALIZERS are people who distract patriots from defending freedom.
AMONG MANY OTHER TACTICS,
they do this by:
1. Deceiving patriots into supporting hoaxes.

If a simple request for evidence gives rise to a vitriolic personal
attack,
or an attempt to censor, rather than the addressing of the issue,
then one can only assume that the attacker has no other way to
respond.
Any time that a simple request for evidence gives rise to a
vitriolic personal attack,
you can be assured that you are dealing with a hoax.
2. Dividing patriots into fighting each other by creating strife
among
patriots
3. Deceiving patriots into creating class struggle by promoting
ethnic
hatred.
4. Attempting to Waste the time of patriots, by forcing them to
respond
to personal attacks.
5. Using multiple aliases to create the appearance that there is
someone, who believes them to be credible.
6. ABOVE ALL: Accusing the most effective patriots of being false
opposition.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
IT WILL BE QUITE CLEAR WHO IT IS, THAT DOES THESE THINGS,
IF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT IT.

Any person; who does ALL of the above is certain to be a NEUTRALIZER.

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "zionistexposer6f"
<zionistexposer6f@...> wrote:
>
> NOTE that this puts Perna directly at odds with MOST 911 TRUTH
> SEEKERS especially Eric Huffshmidt who supplied the URL on 'Crypto-
> ZIONISTS' which Perna fits to a 'T'.
>
> What's going on here folks? Don't you want to stop the
NEXT '911'??
>
> THEN STOP ISRAEL!!
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, John Perna
> <savefreed0m2oo3@> wrote:
> >
> > Hypothetically let us just suppose that Al Qaeda was paying a
few
> American citizens to spread disinformation.
> > What kind of disinformation would a paid Al Qaeda disinformer be
> spreading?
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that Al
Qaeda
> did not have anything to do with the 9-11-2001 WTO,
> > and pentagon, terrorism.
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that it was
not
> even Arabs AT ALL.
> > Maybe he would even try to deceive Americans to believe that was
> Jews, and zionists.
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that there
were
> not even any hijackers,
> > but that the planes were remote controlled.
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that Osama
Bin
> Laden never admitted responsibility,
> > in a message that was meant to be heard only by his followers;
but
> not by the American people.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> blame EVERYTHING on Jews, and zionists, and Israel.
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that all of
the
> real patriots are zionists; and therefore, evil.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> > and watch out for those sinister little plastic stickers, on the
> road signs.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> > and watch out for those sinister exhaust trails, that are behind
by
> every jet in the world.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> > and watch out for scores of other hoaxes.
> > If a simple request for evidence gives rise to a
vitriolic
> personal attack,
> > or an attempt to censor, rather than the addressing of the
issue,
> > then one can only assume that the attacker has no other way to
> respond.
> > Any time that a simple request for evidence gives rise to a
> vitriolic personal attack,
> > you can be assured that you are dealing with a hoax.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> > and take up fighting other patriots, AND maybe he would even do
> everything that he could do,
> > to create strife amongst the patriots. Perhaps would present
> himself as a defender of liberty,
> > BUT he then spend most of his time attacking the defenders of
> liberty, under numerous pretenses.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to deceive Americans to believe that we
should
> stop worrying about Al Qaeda supporters,
> > and try to deceive patriots into creating class struggle by
> promoting ethnic
> > hatred.
> >
> > Maybe he would try to stop patriots from opposing Al Qaeda
> supporters,
> > by attempting to waste the time of patriots, by forcing them to
> respond
> > to personal attacks, and endless debate about trivia.
> >
> > Maybe he would use multiple aliases to create the appearance
that
> there is
> > someone, who believes him to be credible.
> >
> > Maybe he would accuse the most effective patriots of being
false
> > opposition.
> >
> > He might even be a member of the Al Qaeda egroup.
> >
> > DOES THIS SOUND LIKE ANYONE THAT WE KNOW?
> >
> > This does not mention anyone's name.
> > If there is anyone who thinks that this description accurately
> > applies to himself,
> > that person is invited to comment.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Brings words and photos together (easily) with
> > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
> >
>

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