Thursday, February 16, 2006

Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: How many people were in on the conspiracy?

URL please?

I want to see what Rick Siegel is posting~~

greg nixon wrote:
> i'll hold off so as not make any discomfort. I battle some trolls at
> myspace where Rick siegal posts heavily as well as a CA guy named
> "Merc" ( a no planer)
> I keep telling people to read the "terror drills" but many are too lazy.
>
> No biggie thanks though anyway.
>
>
> */Nico Haupt <nicohaupt@gmx.li>/* wrote:
>
> > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> > Von: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
> > An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: How many people were in on the
> > conspiracy?
> > Datum: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:44:36 -0800 (PST)
>
> well for another list maybe but it is not perfect and drafted
> enough for a
> public posting.
>
> I'm too detail obsessed and would add names first or the links to my
> article. There is also a specific hierarchy involved, which i
> didn't mention
> either :)
>
> However, keep going in the spirit of open source, you can post it
> in another
> list...
>
>
> > Nico,
> >
> > permission to post this most excellent and concise response
> elswhere?
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > Nico Haupt <nicohaupt@gmx.li> wrote:
> > > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> > > Von: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
> > > An: Ed Barner <edwinatlcom.net@mindspring.com>,
> > > 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > > Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: How many people were in on the
> > conspiracy?
> > > Datum: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:17:42 -0600
> > >
> >
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > i answered this question a long time ago.
> > First in 2002, then in 2004 in my article series "the lost
> terror drill"
> >
> > But you have first to learn to distinguish between the official
> 'plotline'
> > and the 'military operation'.
> >
> > You can deceive as much people into a plotline, without telling
> them the
> > true outcome. All alleged suspects got killed or didn't exist.
> > In case of additional actors they got killed as well.
> >
> > BlackOP helicopter pilots got possibly killed in Afghanistan,
> Pakistan or
> > Iraq in a combat or within the alleged helicopter crash accidents.
> >
> > 90% of the crew of the military operation died as a passengers
> on the
> > alleged flights, in reality reboarded and/or killed at different
> locations
> > than official version. Another percentage got killed in
> Pentagon, WTC 1, 2
> > and 7, maybe even captured in 6 and 5.
> >
> >
> > The helping hands, most of them involved in a real time terror drill
> > exercise, are related with their handlers who are sitting in the
> military
> > and oil think tanks.
> > I gave names. They also worked closely with PNAC members, which
> itself are
> > just puppets.
> >
> > Both wars had been planned by different pentagon crews,
> unrelated to 9/11,
> > i.e. Charles Holland at Tampa.
> >
> > If you look for masterminds, then you will end up in some grey
> zones, but
> > i
> > gave names as well.
> > Think Reagan Crew 80s, Kissinger/Baker plus new power brokers from
> > military/intel contractors. Think World Bank, Federal Reserve
> and major
> > oil
> > pipeline project managers.
> > Historians and Revisionist often simplify the mastermind
> > into Mossad, CIA and MI5/6 (with moles at Saudi and pakistani
> > intelligence),but i think the real masterminds used these fronts as
> > puppets
> > as well.
> >
> > If it comes to intel, you also have to distinguish between
> plotline and
> > military operation. I gave name of producers for the MO, from
> Titan to
> > Anzus.
> >
> > What plotline depends, i have a much bigger profile for dutch
> and german
> > intelligence than the usual 'saudi distraction'.
> > Now you know why Jaap de Hoop Scheffer and Schroeder got promoted.
> > They don't even need to know who did the real 9/11. They did
> their own
> > limited hangout in time on pending 'terror attacks'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >>>>This is an interesting question.
> > I post it to 911insidejobbers.
> > I think it is a coven of 13 in Lictenstien communicating
> directly with
> > demonics who can see beyond time.
> >
> >
> > Ed Barner wrote:
> > > Hi Rosalee.
> > > What's your take?
> > > Forward this if you agree with any of it. If not, its just
> between us.
> > >
> > > How many people were in on the 9/11 conspiracy?
> > >
> > > Critics of the 9/11 movement say that 9/11 could not have been a
> > > domestic conspiracy because it would have taken such a large
> number of
> > > conspirators to carry it off.
> > > That does sound logical, but it's not really necessary that
> it take
> > > that many.<<
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> >
> > This is an interesting question.
> > I post it to 911insidejobbers.
> > I think it is a coven of 13 in Lictenstien communicating
> directly with
> > demonics who can see beyond time.
> >
> >
> > Ed Barner wrote:
> > > Hi Rosalee.
> > > What's your take?
> > > Forward this if you agree with any of it. If not, its just
> between us.
> > >
> > > How many people were in on the 9/11 conspiracy?
> > >
> > > Critics of the 9/11 movement say that 9/11 could not have been a
> > > domestic conspiracy because it would have taken such a large
> number of
> > > conspirators to carry it off.
> > > That does sound logical, but it's not really necessary that
> it take
> > > that many.
> > >
> > > This post is speculative for future comparisons to the
> eventual truth.
> > > but 9/11 could have been brought about with as few as 100
> > > conspirators.
> > > It would only take about 40 order givers and possibly 60 more
> > > informed insiders who were order takers.
> > > All others could be hoodwinked and co-opted.
> > >
> > > It really didn't take a large number of people.
> > >
> > > The corporate controlled media just went about its usual job of
> > > ignoring all of the right things. They don't necessarily know the
> > > truth.
> > > The military just followed orders.
> > > The elected officials who were out of the loop, just went about
> > > ignoring anything that looked vaguely like a black op, as usual.
> > >
> > > The flim flam of the world could have been done by 100 order
> giving
> > > insiders.
> > >
> > > As an aside, The ones who may not have been in the know, who might
> > > talk if pressed, are the flight controllers.
> > >
> > > Here's how I figure.
> > > If it was me undertaking this vile act, I'd have had the following
> > > people informed and on my team by threats, the payment of
> largess and
> > > perks.
> > >
> > > The Heads of the FBI, CIA, FAA and the NSA had to be in on
> it. They
> > > are mostly inured to chicanery and close to the members of PNAC
> > > Underlings in those agencies have non disclosure agreements
> that keep
> > > them silent.
> > > Various security wanna be's had to be bought or rented.That is
> > > ordinary business.They never see or hear anything, for a living.
> > >
> > > Members of PNAC ( of course, the winners in all of this, who
> are the
> > > planners and co-ordinators, along with the New York Port Authority
> > > leadership ( who got rid of some albatross real estate that was
> > > asbestos ridden by accident. instead of by the expenditure of
> > > billions. They did a major amount of the physical cover-up.
> > > FEMA's leadership.( who also took part in the cover-up).
> > > The Pentagons leadership, Rumsfeld, from PNAC.
> > > The Mayor of New York, Giuliani along with Bloomberg and Eliot
> > > Spitzer.
> > > Larry Silverstein and Peter G. Peterson,of the Blackstone
> Group,and
> > > Chairman of the C.F.R, who financed and carried out the trade
> center
> > > lease in June of 2001 in association with Henry Kissinger, who
> must be
> > > a senile coot by now.
> > > Later someone at NIST would have to be aboard and of course
> the 9/11
> > > commission, chosen from insiders.
> > > Now add the Executives and staff at the White House and the
> demolition
> > > team that took it's orders from them ( Munitions expert Richard J.
> > > Spanard and his three man crew, who were assigned to the Executive
> > > branch _Very_ Important _Persons detail,and who were reported as
> > > going to building 7 shortly after 9 am on september 11th.)
> > > There were the execs of Fresh Kills and the ship that took
> steel out
> > > of the country who would need to be co-opted, overseen and vetted.
> > > Let's see, There's Goss and Graham,who took care of the
> payment of
> > > the terrorist patsies, Tenet, Ashcroft, and Gonzales,aided and
> > > abetted the coup.
> > >
> > > The NYFD was silenced, though they talked plenty,and are not
> implicit.
> > > Little is known about the New York Police involvement. They
> could have
> > > been kept under control by Giuliani's office and non disclosure
> > > agreements.
> > > There was a judge, who issued veiled gag orders on the actual
> > > witnesses of the crime from the buildings, who had to be in on the
> > > 'gag'
> > >
> > > Where am I now, about 100 insiders and maybe 200 more in a
> position to
> > > have figured it out.
> > >
> > > In a government fueled by 190 proof greed that is a number
> that I can
> > > believe.
> > >
> > > So, according to me, 9/11 was made to happen by about 300
> traitors,
> > > including 200 of those who should have spilled the beans without
> > > actual involvement and 100 people in positions to give orders.
> > > That's not too many people to have to keep in line if you have a
> > > virtually unlimited budget and airtight secrecy backed by
> "National
> > > Security Letters"
> > >
> > > I learn from argument, What have you got?
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