tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79304662024-03-08T08:13:16.978+07:00Discussion about 09/11/2001WTC7 seems to be a classic controlled demolition. WTC 1 &2 destruction appears to have been enhanced by thermate (a variation of thermite) in addition.
Pentagon was not struck by a passenger aircraft. It was a drone or missle.Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.comBlogger17076125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1158610352298971942006-09-19T03:12:00.001+07:002006-09-19T03:25:14.743+07:00Hungary PM admits lying day and night, opposition asks to resign</span class=fullpost>Please see my new blog for Future Updates:<br /><a href="http://pbgiltner.blogspot.com">http://pbgiltner.blogspot.com</a><br />==============================================<br />Adding spice to the scandal, Gyurcsany's comments were full of crude remarks and called into doubt the abilities of some of Hungary's most respected economic experts.<br /><a href="http://www.r-mail.org/search.aspx/International+News" rel="tag">International News</a><br /><a href="http://www.eitb24.com/portal/eitb24/noticia/en/international-news/leaked-recording-hungary-pm-admits-lying-day-and-night--oppositio?itemId=B24_10586&cl=/eitb24/internacional&idioma=en">Click here to view the original Webpage.</a><br /><hr /><br />Sent using <a href="http://www.r-mail.org">Rmail</a>.<br /><br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1158329475142241652006-09-16T21:11:00.000+07:002006-09-16T07:42:38.596+07:00[Last_Days_Audio] Digest Number 143</span class=fullpost><p class="mobile-post">There are 4 messages in this issue.</p><p class="mobile-post">Topics in this digest:</p><p class="mobile-post">1a. 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're born <br /> From: Liza<br />1b. Re: 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're born <br /> From: Liza<br />1c. Re: 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're born <br /> From: iron cross<br />1d. American WorldView Alert: Parthonogenesis & Microwave Energy Weapons <br /> From: Frederick Meekins</p><p class="mobile-post">Messages<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">1a. 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're born<br /> Posted by: "Liza" Cassiopeia@aaahawk.com phaedra2020<br /> Date: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:36 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">WorldNetDaily: 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're bornExcerpt:<br />He added that one point on which he agrees with the pro-life movement is that, "from the point of view of ethics rather than the law, there is no sharp distinction between the foetus and the newborn baby." <br />The statement furthers the arguments that Singer's position is just an extension of the culture of death that has developed in the world, with euthanasia legal in some locations, abortion legal in many and even charges that in some repressive societies there's an active business in harvesting healthy organs from victims in order to provide transplants for the wealthy. </p><p class="mobile-post">Liz<br /> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51963 <br /> Thursday, September 14, 2006</p><p class="mobile-post">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class="mobile-post">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class="mobile-post"> MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH<br /> 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're born<br /> 'Animal-rights' promoter asserts actual birth makes no difference</p><p class="mobile-post">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class="mobile-post"> Princeton's Peter Singer (Photo: The Age) </p><p class="mobile-post"> An internationally known Princeton "bioethicist" and animal-rights activist says he'd kill disabled babies if it were in the "best interests" of the family, because he sees no distinction in the child's life whether it is born or not, and the world already allows abortion. </p><p class="mobile-post"> The comments come from Peter Singer, a controversial bioethics professor, who responded to a series of questions in the UK Independent this week. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Earlier, WND reported Singer believes the next few decades will see a massive upheaval in the concept of life and rights, with only "a rump of hard-core, know-nothing religious fundamentalists" still protecting life as sacrosanct. </p><p class="mobile-post"> To the rest, it will be a commodity to be re-evaluated regularly for its worth. </p><p class="mobile-post"> His newest sermon on his beliefs came in a question-and-answer interview the Independent set up with readers. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Singer's response came to Dublin reader Karen Meade's question: "Would you kill a disabled baby?" </p><p class="mobile-post"> "Yes, if that was in the best interests of the baby and of the family as a whole. Many people find this shocking, yet they support a woman's right to have an abortion," he said. </p><p class="mobile-post"> He added that one point on which he agrees with the pro-life movement is that, "from the point of view of ethics rather than the law, there is no sharp distinction between the foetus and the newborn baby." </p><p class="mobile-post"> The statement furthers the arguments that Singer's position is just an extension of the culture of death that has developed in the world, with euthanasia legal in some locations, abortion legal in many and even charges that in some repressive societies there's an active business in harvesting healthy organs from victims in order to provide transplants for the wealthy. </p><p class="mobile-post"> "At least he's consistent," Alex Schadenberg, executive director of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, told LifeSiteNews.com. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Singer holds that man is no different from other forms a life, and therefore man's life is not worth more than, for example, a cow. </p><p class="mobile-post"> He told readers he'd kill 10 cows before killing one human, but that's not because they are of less value, only that humans would mourn. </p><p class="mobile-post"> "I've written that it is much worse to kill a being who is aware of having a past and a future, and who plans for the future. Normal humans have such plans, but I don't think cows do," he said. </p><p class="mobile-post"> However, he did qualify his description with the word, "normal." </p><p class="mobile-post"> "Once again Singer is making distinctions between human beings he would consider normal and those he would consider not normal, thus he is deciding who is a person and who is not," Schadenberg told LifeSiteNews. </p><p class="mobile-post"> "Non-persons are allowed to be killed," under Singer's theology, he said. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Singer also said the focus on infanticide was not his, but those who oppose him and the media. </p><p class="mobile-post"> "It's always been a minor aspect of my work," he said. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Singer declined to answer whether he believes Steve Irwin, TV's "Crocodile Hunter," got "what he had coming," saying he never watched the television show. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Irwin died recently while filming an undersea special when he approached a stingray and was fatally stung. </p><p class="mobile-post"> But he advocated for the closure of health research centers where animals are used and said it's not at all unreasonable to ascribe human characteristics to animals. </p><p class="mobile-post"> "Anyone who ascribes rights to babies or humans with intellectual disabilities must be willing to attribute rights to beings who can't understand the concept," Singer said. "It's the moral agents, the ones who are acting, who need to understand the concept. Those to whom we attribute rights, do not need to understand these concepts." </p><p class="mobile-post"> The only moral absolute, he noted, "is that we should do what will have the best consequences for all those affected by our actions." [And just who decides what is best?]</p><p class="mobile-post"> In WND's earlier report, Singer said that the court-ordered circumstances that killed Terri Schiavo, a disabled Florida woman, in 2005 may be the turning point at which holding the position of the sanctity of life became "untenable." </p><p class="mobile-post"> She died after a court ordered, upon her husband's request, that water and food be withheld from her. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Singer's support for legalized euthanasia and his endorsement of killing the disabled for up to 28 days after birth also sparked protests against his hiring in 1999 by Princeton, a university founded by the Presbyterian denomination. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Editor's note: WorldNetDaily has been reporting on the Terri Schiavo story since 2002 � far longer than most other national news organization � and exposing the many troubling, scandalous, and possibly criminal, aspects of the case that to this day rarely surface in news reports. Read WorldNetDaily's unparalleled, in-depth coverage of the life-and-death fight over Terri Schiavo, including over 150 original stories and columns. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Special offers: </p><p class="mobile-post"> Finally, 'Terri's Story' � as told by reporter who broke it to the world </p><p class="mobile-post"> You can stop an abortion today! </p><p class="mobile-post"> Previous stories: </p><p class="mobile-post"> Prof: Right to assisted suicide 'irresistible' </p><p class="mobile-post"> Infanticide promoter: Bush morally stunted </p><p class="mobile-post"> Pro-infanticide prof awarded ethics prize </p><p class="mobile-post">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post">Messages in this topic (4)<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">1b. Re: 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're born<br /> Posted by: "Liza" Cassiopeia@aaahawk.com phaedra2020<br /> Date: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:54 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">WorldNetDaily: 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're bornOops, sorry. Wrong group.<br />Liz<br />----- Original Message ----- <br />From: Liza <br />To: EndTimesDiscernment@yahoogroups.com <br />Cc: Sounding ; Hearthside ; NYCP ; Audio ; Disciples <br />Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:35 PM<br />Subject: [Last_Days_Audio] 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're born</p><p class="mobile-post">Excerpt:<br />He added that one point on which he agrees with the pro-life movement is that, "from the point of view of ethics rather than the law, there is no sharp distinction between the foetus and the newborn baby." <br />The statement furthers the arguments that Singer's position is just an extension of the culture of death that has developed in the world, with euthanasia legal in some locations, abortion legal in many and even charges that in some repressive societies there's an active business in harvesting healthy organs from victims in order to provide transplants for the wealthy. </p><p class="mobile-post">Liz<br /> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51963 <br /> Thursday, September 14, 2006</p><p class="mobile-post">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class="mobile-post">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class="mobile-post"> MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH<br /> 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're born<br /> 'Animal-rights' promoter asserts actual birth makes no difference</p><p class="mobile-post">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class="mobile-post"> Princeton's Peter Singer (Photo: The Age) </p><p class="mobile-post"> An internationally known Princeton "bioethicist" and animal-rights activist says he'd kill disabled babies if it were in the "best interests" of the family, because he sees no distinction in the child's life whether it is born or not, and the world already allows abortion. </p><p class="mobile-post"> The comments come from Peter Singer, a controversial bioethics professor, who responded to a series of questions in the UK Independent this week. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Earlier, WND reported Singer believes the next few decades will see a massive upheaval in the concept of life and rights, with only "a rump of hard-core, know-nothing religious fundamentalists" still protecting life as sacrosanct. </p><p class="mobile-post"> To the rest, it will be a commodity to be re-evaluated regularly for its worth. </p><p class="mobile-post"> His newest sermon on his beliefs came in a question-and-answer interview the Independent set up with readers. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Singer's response came to Dublin reader Karen Meade's question: "Would you kill a disabled baby?" </p><p class="mobile-post"> "Yes, if that was in the best interests of the baby and of the family as a whole. Many people find this shocking, yet they support a woman's right to have an abortion," he said. </p><p class="mobile-post"> He added that one point on which he agrees with the pro-life movement is that, "from the point of view of ethics rather than the law, there is no sharp distinction between the foetus and the newborn baby." </p><p class="mobile-post"> The statement furthers the arguments that Singer's position is just an extension of the culture of death that has developed in the world, with euthanasia legal in some locations, abortion legal in many and even charges that in some repressive societies there's an active business in harvesting healthy organs from victims in order to provide transplants for the wealthy. </p><p class="mobile-post"> "At least he's consistent," Alex Schadenberg, executive director of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, told LifeSiteNews.com. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Singer holds that man is no different from other forms a life, and therefore man's life is not worth more than, for example, a cow. </p><p class="mobile-post"> He told readers he'd kill 10 cows before killing one human, but that's not because they are of less value, only that humans would mourn. </p><p class="mobile-post"> "I've written that it is much worse to kill a being who is aware of having a past and a future, and who plans for the future. Normal humans have such plans, but I don't think cows do," he said. </p><p class="mobile-post"> However, he did qualify his description with the word, "normal." </p><p class="mobile-post"> "Once again Singer is making distinctions between human beings he would consider normal and those he would consider not normal, thus he is deciding who is a person and who is not," Schadenberg told LifeSiteNews. </p><p class="mobile-post"> "Non-persons are allowed to be killed," under Singer's theology, he said. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Singer also said the focus on infanticide was not his, but those who oppose him and the media. </p><p class="mobile-post"> "It's always been a minor aspect of my work," he said. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Singer declined to answer whether he believes Steve Irwin, TV's "Crocodile Hunter," got "what he had coming," saying he never watched the television show. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Irwin died recently while filming an undersea special when he approached a stingray and was fatally stung. </p><p class="mobile-post"> But he advocated for the closure of health research centers where animals are used and said it's not at all unreasonable to ascribe human characteristics to animals. </p><p class="mobile-post"> "Anyone who ascribes rights to babies or humans with intellectual disabilities must be willing to attribute rights to beings who can't understand the concept," Singer said. "It's the moral agents, the ones who are acting, who need to understand the concept. Those to whom we attribute rights, do not need to understand these concepts." </p><p class="mobile-post"> The only moral absolute, he noted, "is that we should do what will have the best consequences for all those affected by our actions." [And just who decides what is best?] </p><p class="mobile-post"> In WND's earlier report, Singer said that the court-ordered circumstances that killed Terri Schiavo, a disabled Florida woman, in 2005 may be the turning point at which holding the position of the sanctity of life became "untenable." </p><p class="mobile-post"> She died after a court ordered, upon her husband's request, that water and food be withheld from her. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Singer's support for legalized euthanasia and his endorsement of killing the disabled for up to 28 days after birth also sparked protests against his hiring in 1999 by Princeton, a university founded by the Presbyterian denomination. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Editor's note: WorldNetDaily has been reporting on the Terri Schiavo story since 2002 � far longer than most other national news organization � and exposing the many troubling, scandalous, and possibly criminal, aspects of the case that to this day rarely surface in news reports. Read WorldNetDaily's unparalleled, in-depth coverage of the life-and-death fight over Terri Schiavo, including over 150 original stories and columns. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Special offers: </p><p class="mobile-post"> Finally, 'Terri's Story' � as told by reporter who broke it to the world </p><p class="mobile-post"> You can stop an abortion today! </p><p class="mobile-post"> Previous stories: </p><p class="mobile-post"> Prof: Right to assisted suicide 'irresistible' </p><p class="mobile-post"> Infanticide promoter: Bush morally stunted </p><p class="mobile-post"> Pro-infanticide prof awarded ethics prize </p><p class="mobile-post">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class="mobile-post"> <br /> <br />Messages in this topic (4)<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">1c. Re: 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're born<br /> Posted by: "iron cross" iron_cross66106@yahoo.com iron_cross66106<br /> Date: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:02 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">This is a prime example of the kind of world in which we live in today.<br /> I cannot even comprehend how any human can look at a little baby, and say it's ok to kill it.<br /> <br /> To me this is a fine example of how we are living in the last day's, Christ will return in my lifetime, and in yours. <br /> <br /> Are you ready?<br /> </p><p class="mobile-post">Liza <Cassiopeia@aaahawk.com> wrote:<br /> Oops, sorry. Wrong group.<br /> Liz<br /> ----- Original Message ----- From: Liza <br /> To: EndTimesDiscernment@yahoogroups.com <br /> Cc: Sounding ; Hearthside ; NYCP ; Audio ; Disciples <br /> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:35 PM<br /> Subject: [Last_Days_Audio] 'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're born</p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post"> Excerpt:<br /> He added that one point on which he agrees with the pro-life movement is that, "from the point of view of ethics rather than the law, there is no sharp distinction between the foetus and the newborn baby." <br /> The statement furthers the arguments that Singer's position is just an extension of the culture of death that has developed in the world, with euthanasia legal in some locations, abortion legal in many and even charges that in some repressive societies there's an active business in harvesting healthy organs from victims in order to provide transplants for the wealthy. </p><p class="mobile-post"> Liz<br /> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51963 <br /> Thursday, September 14, 2006</p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br /> <br /> <br />---------------------------------<br /> <br /> MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH<br />'Bioethicist': OK to kill babies after they're born<br />'Animal-rights' promoter asserts actual birth makes no difference</p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br /> <br /> <br />Princeton's Peter Singer (Photo: The Age) An internationally known Princeton "bioethicist" and animal-rights activist says he'd kill disabled babies if it were in the "best interests" of the family, because he sees no distinction in the child's life whether it is born or not, and the world already allows abortion. The comments come from Peter Singer, a controversial bioethics professor, who responded to a series of questions in the UK Independent this week. Earlier, WND reported Singer believes the next few decades will see a massive upheaval in the concept of life and rights, with only "a rump of hard-core, know-nothing religious fundamentalists" still protecting life as sacrosanct. To the rest, it will be a commodity to be re-evaluated regularly for its worth. His newest sermon on his beliefs came in a question-and-answer interview the Independent set up with readers. Singer's response came to Dublin reader Karen Meade's question: "Would you kill a disabled<br /> baby?" "Yes, if that was in the best interests of the baby and of the family as a whole. Many people find this shocking, yet they support a woman's right to have an abortion," he said. He added that one point on which he agrees with the pro-life movement is that, "from the point of view of ethics rather than the law, there is no sharp distinction between the foetus and the newborn baby." The statement furthers the arguments that Singer's position is just an extension of the culture of death that has developed in the world, with euthanasia legal in some locations, abortion legal in many and even charges that in some repressive societies there's an active business in harvesting healthy organs from victims in order to provide transplants for the wealthy. "At least he's consistent," Alex Schadenberg, executive director of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, told LifeSiteNews.com. Singer holds that man is no different from other forms a life, and therefore man's life<br /> is not worth more than, for example, a cow. He told readers he'd kill 10 cows before killing one human, but that's not because they are of less value, only that humans would mourn. "I've written that it is much worse to kill a being who is aware of having a past and a future, and who plans for the future. Normal humans have such plans, but I don't think cows do," he said. However, he did qualify his description with the word, "normal." "Once again Singer is making distinctions between human beings he would consider normal and those he would consider not normal, thus he is deciding who is a person and who is not," Schadenberg told LifeSiteNews. "Non-persons are allowed to be killed," under Singer's theology, he said. Singer also said the focus on infanticide was not his, but those who oppose him and the media. "It's always been a minor aspect of my work," he said. Singer declined to answer whether he believes Steve Irwin, TV's "Crocodile Hunter," got "what<br /> he had coming," saying he never watched the television show. Irwin died recently while filming an undersea special when he approached a stingray and was fatally stung. But he advocated for the closure of health research centers where animals are used and said it's not at all unreasonable to ascribe human characteristics to animals. "Anyone who ascribes rights to babies or humans with intellectual disabilities must be willing to attribute rights to beings who can't understand the concept," Singer said. "It's the moral agents, the ones who are acting, who need to understand the concept. Those to whom we attribute rights, do not need to understand these concepts." The only moral absolute, he noted, "is that we should do what will have the best consequences for all those affected by our actions." [And just who decides what is best?] In WND's earlier report, Singer said that the court-ordered circumstances that killed Terri Schiavo, a disabled Florida woman, in 2005<br /> may be the turning point at which holding the position of the sanctity of life became "untenable." She died after a court ordered, upon her husband's request, that water and food be withheld from her. Singer's support for legalized euthanasia and his endorsement of killing the disabled for up to 28 days after birth also sparked protests against his hiring in 1999 by Princeton, a university founded by the Presbyterian denomination. Editor's note: WorldNetDaily has been reporting on the Terri Schiavo story since 2002 � far longer than most other national news organization � and exposing the many troubling, scandalous, and possibly criminal, aspects of the case that to this day rarely surface in news reports. Read WorldNetDaily's unparalleled, in-depth coverage of the life-and-death fight over Terri Schiavo, including over 150 original stories and columns. Special offers: Finally, 'Terri's Story' � as told by reporter who broke it to the world You can stop an<br /> abortion today! 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That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility to protect the American people.He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping."Explosives in buildings that were to be or were attacked by planes? Does anyone remember the documentary that shows many firemen saying that they heard bombs and explosions in the towers that morning before they collapsed?</p><br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1158375283865025922006-09-16T09:54:00.000+07:002006-09-16T10:09:20.696+07:00Bush unravels at press conference</span class=fullpost><br /><p><table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <a name="base2296766"> </a><table id="table2296766" bgcolor="#bde0ed" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td><br /></td><td align="left" valign="top"> <a href="http://www.alternet.org/"><img src="http://www.alternet.org/rss/button.gif" alt="AlterNet" border="0" /></a> </td><td> <br /></td><td> <span class="blogtitle"><a href="http://www.alternet.org/"><b>AlterNet.org: Multimedia</b></a></span><br />Alternative News and Information. </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> </tbody></table><a name="base2296766"> </a></td></tr> <tr><td> <div id="items2296766" style="display: block;"> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <h2><a title="Site: AlterNet.org: Multimedia" href="http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/#41700">Bush unravels at press conference</a></h2> By Evan Derkacz <p> They're coming again! </p></td></tr> <tr><td> <p> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td align="left" valign="top"> <br /></td> <td align="right" valign="top"><br /></td></tr> </tbody></table> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> <p> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> </div></td></tr> </tbody></table></p><br /><span class="fullpost">Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1158374603545199922006-09-16T09:43:00.000+07:002006-09-16T09:47:13.903+07:00Matt Taibbi: Americans in Denial about 9/11</span class=fullpost><a href="http://www.bloglines.com">Blogger Thoughts:</a> <p> This kind of discussion of 9/11 is sick, destructive, and an embarrassment. </p><p> </p><hr /> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <a name="base1367354"> </a><table id="table1367354" bgcolor="#bde0ed" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td> <br /></td><td align="left" valign="top"> <a href="http://www.alternet.org/"><img src="http://www.alternet.org/rss/button.gif" alt="AlterNet" border="0" /></a> </td><td> </td><td> <span class="blogtitle"><a href="http://www.alternet.org/"><b>AlterNet.org: Columnists</b></a></span><br />Alternative News and Information. </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> </tbody></table><a name="base1367354"> </a></td></tr> <tr><td> <div id="items1367354" style="display: block;"> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <h2><a title="Site: AlterNet.org: Columnists" href="http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/41635/">Matt Taibbi: Americans in Denial about 9/11</a></h2> By Matt Taibbi <p> Five years after 9/11, the country still hasn't asked what motives the terrorists may have had in their attacks. </p></td></tr> <tr><td> <p> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td align="left" valign="top"> <br /></td> <td align="right" valign="top"><br /> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> <p> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> </div></td></tr> </tbody></table><br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1158368585811816692006-09-16T08:03:00.002+07:002006-09-16T10:10:54.546+07:00Eric Boehlert: Why Was Wolfowitz So Clueless On The Morning of 9/11?</span class=fullpost><a href="http://www.bloglines.com"></a><p> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <a name="base1809529"> </a><table id="table1809529" bg cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="color:#bde0ed;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td> <span class="blogtitle"><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/"><b>The Huffington Post | Raw Feed</b></a></span><br />The Huffington Post Raw Feed </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> </tbody></table><a name="base1809529"> </a></td></tr> <tr><td> <div id="items1809529" style="display: block;"> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <h2><a title="Site: The Huffington Post | Raw Feed" href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-boehlert/why-was-wolfowitz-so-clue_b_29486.html">Eric Boehlert: Why Was Wolfowitz So Clueless On The Morning of 9/11?</a></h2> By Eric Boehlert on 9/11 <p> </p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743289315/qid=1141231641/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-3787172-8371221?s=books&v=glance&n=283155" target="_blank" class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog"><img alt="Lapdogs---RS-Fix.jpg" src="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/Lapdogs---RS-Fix-thumb.jpg" align="right" height="180" width="123" /></a></p> <p>Despite the exhaustive work of the 9/11 Commission and its detailed final report, the number of oddities surrounding the events of 9/11, and particularly the government's botched attempt at defend a country under attack, remain numerous. One peculiarity I've always wondered about is why Paul Wolfowitz, then the Deputy Secretary of Defense and the number two person at the Pentagon, was so completely clueless the morning of the deadly attacks. As the events unfolded live on television and senior administration officials scrambled to make sense of the horrific events, Wolfowitz appeared to be in a haze. Or perhaps a cocoon. Now, as 9/11 remembrance week draws to a close, I thought it might worth examining the odd inaction by such a senior member of the administration. The same senior official who later played a central role in planning the disastrous war in Iraq. (And no, by raising questions about Wolfowitz I'm not signing off on any larger, 9/11 conspiracy theory.) </p> <p>Here's how Wolfowitz, taken from a May 9, 2003 <a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/tr20030509-depsecdef0223.html" target="_blank" class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog">interview transcript</a>, described his morning on that unforgettable day: </p> <blockquote><strong>Wolfowitz:</strong> We were having a meeting in my office. Someone said a plane had hit the World Trade Center. Then we turned on the television and we started seeing the shots of the second plane hitting, and this is the way I remember it. It's a little fuzzy. <p><strong>Q:</strong> Right.</p> <p><strong>Wolfowitz</strong>: <em>There didn't seem to be much to do about it immediately and we went on with whatever the meeting was.</em> Then the whole building shook. I have to confess my first reaction was an <em>earthquake</em>. I didn't put the two things together in my mind. Rumsfeld did instantly. [Emphasis added.] </p></blockquote> <p>Unfortunately the interviewer, Sam Tanenhaus, then with <em>Vanity Fair </em>and now the editor of the <em>New York Times Book Review</em>, let the jaw-dropping exchange pass without comment and without any follow-up questions. Keep in mind the first 9/11 plane struck the World Trade Center at 8:46, the second at 9:03 and the third, which bombed the Pentagon, rained down at 9:37. Also keep in mind that after the second plane struck the WTC, even TV anchor people, let alone senior defense officers, who reaching the obvious conclusion; that the plane crashes were deliberate acts of terrorism. Yet incredibly, Wolfowitz, one of the most influential members of the Bush Defense team, decided there wasn't much to do about it immediately and continued on with a meeting. </p> <p><br /> According to 9/11 researcher Paul Thompson, here are a handful of events that unfolded between 9:03, when Wolfowitz saw the second plane hit the WTC, and 9:37 when his own Pentagon was struck. (Taken from Thompson's invaluable research tool, the <a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timelines.jsp" target="_blank" class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog">Complete 9/11 Timeline</a>): </p> <p> </p><p><strong>(After 9:03 a.m.): </strong>Rice Learns of Second Attack; Goes to Basement Bunker </p> <p><br /><strong>(After 9:03 a.m.):</strong> Secret Service Wants Fighters Scrambled from Andrews</p> <p><br /><strong>(9:05 a.m.): </strong>Clarke, Cheney, and Rice Talk, Clarke's Recommendation to Evacuate White House Is Ignored </p> <p><br /><strong>9:09 a.m.:</strong> NORAD Said to Order Langley Fighters to Battle Stations Alert</p> <p><br /><strong>(9:10 a.m.):</strong> Rice and Cheney Apparently Go to White House Bunker</p> <p><br /><strong>(9:18 a.m.):</strong> FAA Command Center Warns Flight Controllers Nationwide to Watch for Suspicious Aircraft </p> <p><br /><strong>9:21 a.m.: </strong>All New York City Bridges and Tunnels Are Closed </p> <p><br /><strong>(9:24 a.m.): </strong>Langley Fighters Are Ordered to Scramble; but One Pilot Claims the Order Is Only a Battle Stations Alert </p> <p><br /><strong>(9:26 a.m.):</strong> Rookie FAA Manager Bans All Take Offs Nationwide, Including Most Military Flights? Mineta Asserts He Issues Order Minutes Later </p> <p><br /><strong>(9:27 a.m.):</strong> Cheney Given Updates on Unidentified Flight 77 Heading Toward Washington </p> <p><br /><strong>9:28 a.m.: </strong>CNN Reports US Officials Think Attacks Caused by Terrorists </p> <p><br /><strong>9:29 a.m.: </strong>President Bush Makes a Scheduled Speech; Proclaims Terrorist Attack on Our Country </p> <p><br /><strong>(9:29 a.m.):</strong> Pentagon Command Center Begins High Level Conference Call </p> <p><br /><strong>9:30 a.m.:</strong> Langley Fighters Take Off Toward Washington; They Could Reach City in Six Minutes but Take Half an Hour </p> <p><br /><strong>(9:30 a.m.): </strong>Clarke Asks Cheney's Bunker for Air Force One Fighter Escort and Shootdown Authorization; Neither Happen for Some Time </p> <p><br /><strong>9:32 a.m.: </strong>Cheney Is Notified That Flight 77 Is Headed To Washington </p> <p><br /><strong>(9:35 a.m.): </strong>Treasury Department Evacuates; Pentagon and Other Washington Department Do Not </p> <p><br /><strong>9:37 a.m.:</strong> Flight 77 Crashes into Reinforced Section of the Pentagon </p> <p><br /> The bright side? I suppose we should be grateful ABC's "The Path to 9/11" didn't portray Wolfowitz as a man of action, barking out orders in a valiant effort to save the Pentagon. <br /></p> <p><a href="http://feeds.huffingtonpost.com/%7Ea/huffingtonpost/raw_feed?a=F4NYqB" target="_blank" class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog"><img src="http://feeds.huffingtonpost.com/%7Ea/huffingtonpost/raw_feed?i=F4NYqB" border="0" /></a></p> <div class="feedflare"><a href="http://feeds.huffingtonpost.com/%7Ef/huffingtonpost/raw_feed?a=rbKEkfOV" target="_blank" class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog"><img src="http://feeds.huffingtonpost.com/%7Ef/huffingtonpost/raw_feed?i=rbKEkfOV" border="0" /></a></div><img src="http://feeds.huffingtonpost.com/%7Er/huffingtonpost/raw_feed/%7E4/22570070" /> </td></tr> <tr><td> <p> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td align="left" valign="top"> <a href="http://feeds.huffingtonpost.com/%7Er/huffingtonpost/raw_feed/%7E3/22570070/why-was-wolfowitz-so-clue_b_29486.html">Link</a><br /> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><br /> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> <p> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> </div></td></tr> </tbody></table></p><br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1158368624963506192006-09-16T08:03:00.001+07:002006-09-16T10:07:26.700+07:00The Wing Damage to the WTC Outer Wall</span class=fullpost><a href="http://www.bloglines.com"></a><p> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <a name="base617734"> </a><table id="table617734" bg cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="color:#bde0ed;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td> <span class="blogtitle"><a href="http://covertoperations.blogspot.com"><b>Humint Events Online</b></a></span><br />The 9/11 hijacking attacks were very likely facilitated by a rogue group within the US government that created an Islamic terrorist "Pearl Harbor" event as a catalyst for the military invasion of Middle Eastern countries. This weblog will explore the incredibly strange events of 9/11/01, and other issues of US government responsibility. </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> </tbody></table><a name="base617734"> </a></td></tr> <tr><td> <div id="items617734" style="display: block;"> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <h2><a title="Site: Humint Events Online" href="http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2006/09/wing-damage-to-wtc-outer-wall.html">The Wing Damage to the WTC Outer Wall</a></h2> By Spooked <p> </p><div>e.g.<br /><a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/6-1_wtc1-impact-hole.0.jpg" target="_blank" class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog"> <img alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/400/6-1_wtc1-impact-hole.0.jpg" border="0" /></a><br /><br />is particularly preplexing since the wings of a 767 are angled back:<br /><br /><a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/swept-back%20wings%20at%20tower.jpg" target="_blank" class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog"> <img alt="" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/400/swept-back%20wings%20at%20tower.jpg" border="0" /></a><br /><br />This means a wing would have to saw through a column, starting at the column corner edge, before it can damage the next column over. And definitely, some of those columns above look sawn through.<br /><br />I never knew aluminum could cut through steel.<br /><br />As if that weren't unlikely enough, the outer sections of wings-- the wingtips (about the last 15-20 feet on the left-hand side above)-- didn't cut through the columns. So they must have broken off since they didn't penetrate the columns. And physics says the wingtip would have broken off and flown backwards. But if the wingtip broke off, how did it leave a mark out to the very end of where it would have contacted? The only way is if the wing suddenly started crumpling up on the column at the tip. But how was it exactly that part of the wing could saw perfectly through the 14 inch wide steel column, yet the outer part of the wing was completely ineffective at this and crumpled up?<br /><br />Finally, check out the damage carefully to those 7 left most columns in the scar. Does that look like where a wingtip crumpled up against the columns? Or more like where something was knocked against them, such as an explosive force? Would wing crumpling cause the column edge to fray apart like is seen in the photo?<br /><br />I think not.</div> </td></tr> <tr><td> <p> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td align="left" valign="top"> <br /></td> <td align="right" valign="top"><br /> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> <p> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> </div></td></tr> </tbody></table></p><br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1158368636106554012006-09-16T08:03:00.000+07:002006-09-16T09:48:13.303+07:00Numbskulls</span class=fullpost><a href="http://www.bloglines.com"></a><p> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <a name="base617734"> </a><table id="table617734" bg cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="color:#bde0ed;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td> <span class="blogtitle"><a href="http://covertoperations.blogspot.com"><b>Humint Events Online</b></a></span><br />The 9/11 hijacking attacks were very likely facilitated by a rogue group within the US government that created an Islamic terrorist "Pearl Harbor" event as a catalyst for the military invasion of Middle Eastern countries. This weblog will explore the incredibly strange events of 9/11/01, and other issues of US government responsibility. </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> </tbody></table><a name="base617734"> </a></td></tr> <tr><td> <div id="items617734" style="display: block;"> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <h2><a title="Site: Humint Events Online" href="http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2006/09/numbskulls.html">Numbskulls</a></h2> By Spooked <p> <a href="http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=kean_hamilton_luncheon" target="_blank" class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog">Kean-Hamilton and the media. </a><br /><br />Oy. </p></td></tr> <tr><td> <p> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td align="left" valign="top"> <br /></td> <td align="right" valign="top"><br /> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> <p> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> </div></td></tr> </tbody></table></p><br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1158368146657110052006-09-16T07:55:00.000+07:002006-09-16T10:24:03.400+07:00Bloglines - Video: 9/11 ticket agent Michael Tuohey</span class=fullpost><a href="http://www.bloglines.com"></a> <p><table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <a name="base5322767"> </a><table id="table5322767" bg cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="color:#bde0ed;"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="2"> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr><td> <span class="blogtitle"><a href="http://hotair.com"><b>Hot Air</b></a></span><br />The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> </tbody></table><a name="base5322767"> </a></td></tr> <tr><td> <div id="items5322767" style="display: block;"> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td> <table width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td> <h2><a title="Site: Hot Air" href="http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/15/video-911-ticket-agent-michael-tuohey/">Video: 9/11 ticket agent Michael Tuohey</a></h2> By Allahpundit on The Blog <p> </p><p>I was tipped to this by William Beutler of <a href="http://www.blogpi.net/the-oprah-winfrey-911-ticket-agent-suicide-myth" target="_blank" class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog">Blog PI</a>, who thinks it might help settle a squabble among lefty bloggers. Read his post for the full rundown. Or just watch. It’s riveting, and heartbreaking.</p> <p>Tuohey does get one thing wrong, though. Abdulaziz Alomari was, in all likelihood, <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/10/video-aq-celebrates-the-911-hijackers/" target="_blank" class="blines2" title="Link to another page in this blog">well aware of his fate</a>.</p> <p><img id="image2274" src="http://hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/alomari-vid.jpg" alt="alomari-vid.jpg" /></p> <p>More on Tuohey <a href="http://www.yankeemagazine.com/thisissue/features/fiveyears911.php" target="_blank" class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog">here</a>.<br /></p><div><br /><div><div><div></div> <!-- there have been 0 updates to this post --> </div></div></div></td></tr> <tr><td> <p> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td align="left" valign="top"> <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/15/video-911-ticket-agent-michael-tuohey/#comments">Comments</a> </td> <td align="right" valign="top"><br /> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> <p> </p></td></tr> </tbody></table> </div></td></tr> </tbody></table></p><br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1158367932544662542006-09-16T07:52:00.000+07:002006-09-16T10:12:17.170+07:00Fwd: [911_truth_DFW] The Fake bin Laden Video Tape</span class=fullpost><span class="gmail_quote"><br><br></span> <div> <div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"> <div style="WIDTH: 655px"> <div style="PADDING-RIGHT: 15px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; FLOAT: left; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; WIDTH: 490px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"> <div> <p>From: Nashid Abdul-Khaaliq <br>To: aplacefortruth <br>Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:33 PM<br>Subject: [APFT] The Fake bin Laden Video Tape<br><br>The Fake bin Laden Video Tape<br>YOU ARE LOOKING AT A US GOVERNMENT LIE <br><br>A videotape purportedly showing Osama bin Laden confessing to the 9/11 attacks was made public on December 13, 2001:<br><br>The tape bore a label indicating it was made on November 9. Administration officials wouldn't reveal exactly how or when they got it, except to say it was found in a house in Jalalabad after anti-Taliban forces moved in. [Online NewsHour] <br><br>The videotape was supposedly physically located. <br><br>The size of a standard VHS videotape is 7.5 inches wide by 4.2 inches deep by 1 inch high - if you look in a video cabinet you'll see they're not very big. The satellite photograph on the right shows Jalalabad - it is very big and it contains a lot of buildings (not all single storey). <br><br>Don't you find it somewhat fortuitous that a very small video tape of Osama confessing to the 9/11 attacks was found in this very big city? Were squads of video watchers sent in to view every tape found just in case one showed Osama confessing? <br>Here's what was said of the "lucky find": Satellite photo of Jalalabad.<br>Population ~150,000<br><br>Click for full sized image <br><br>"For those who see this tape, they'll realise that not only is he guilty of incredible murder, he has no conscience and no soul, that he represents the worst of civilisation, " said President George W Bush. <br>US Senator Ron Wyden, who has also seen the tape, says he hopes it will remove suspicions in countries such as Pakistan that the 11 September attacks were an Israeli plot aimed at drawing the US into a war with Islamic countries. [BBC News] <br><br>The video was very effective in diverting media attention away from the deportation of five Israelis who danced as the twin towers burned - "Osama" certainly picks his moments to appear.<br><br>Details of the videotape - includes full video and transcript. <br><br>A German TV show found that the White House's translation of the video was inaccurate and "manipulative" . Bin Laden even praised two live 'hijackers' - Wail M. Alshehri and Salem Alhazmi. Why didn't he know the names of hijackers he personally chose? <br><br>The quality of the video was very poor and the authenticity of the tape was questioned. This annoyed President Bush:<br><br>"It is preposterous for anybody to think that this tape is doctored," he said during a brief photo opportunity with the prime minister of Thailand. "That's just a feeble excuse to provide weak support for an incredibly evil man." [CNN] <br><br>To be perfectly honest it is preposterous to suggest this videotape could be authentic, but lets have a look at it anyway. Here's 5 Osamas - which is the odd one out?<br><br>Even Mr Magoo would have to say that Osama 'E' stands out like a sore thumb, and this is the man confessing on the "lucky find" tape. Between the nose and the cheeks it is clear that this man is NOT Osama. <br><br>In the video Osama 'E' appears to write notes with his right hand, yet the FBI's description of Osama indicates he is left-handed. Osama 'E' wears a ring on his right hand which does not appear on other confirmed photos of Osama ( e.g. Osama 'B'). <br>Another man is seen wearing a large gold ring in the video. Since the wearing of gold rings is forbidden by Islam it shows neither he nor Osama 'E' has any devotion to this faith.<br><br>On December 27, 2001, a second video containing the pale skinned and very real Osama 'C' was broadcast on al Jazeera. <br><br>The "Gaunt Tape," so named because bin Laden is haggard and doesn't move his left arm, is believed to have been recorded around Nov. 19, 2001. In the tape, bin Laden refers to the U.S. bombing of a mosque in Khost "several days" earlier. The U.S. bombed a mosque in Khost on Nov. 16. Bin Laden does not move his left arm and his appearance is both gaunt and pale. [MSNBC] <br><br>So, this tape was made around ten days after the "lucky find" tape was reportedly made. Are we to believe that Osama's skin, hair and beard changed color in ten days? <br>The broadcast of the tape caught the US government completely off-guard:<br><br>The recording was dismissed by the Bush administration ... as sick propaganda possibly designed to mask the fact the al-Qa'eda leader was already dead. "He could have made the video and then ordered that it be released in the event of his death," said one White House aide. [Telegraph] <br><br>This was a very telling response.<br><br>Also, his comments caused quite a stir because because they contradicted the "confession" video:<br><br>American officials argued that bin Laden's frequent references to US support for Israel were a bogus justification for his terrorism because in the "dinner party" tape of a private conversation there was no mention of the Middle East. [Telegraph] <br><br>This is very odd indeed because in bin Laden's September 28, 2001 denial of involvement in the 9/11 attacks he had plenty to say about the US and Israel:<br><br>This system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. It is clear that the American people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the U.S. is not uttering a single word. [Public Action] <br>And his views were the same in 1998:<br>"We say to the Americans as people and to American mothers, if they cherish their lives and if they cherish their sons, they must elect an American patriotic government that caters to their interests, not the interests of the Jews." [American Free Press] <br><br>Not only do the real Osama and the "lucky find" Osama look totally different, they also write with different hands and have different faiths and priorities.<br><br>It does not get any more obvious than this. <br><br>There is clearly good reason to doubt the November 9 tape. There is excessive noise on the audio track, making it impossible to really hear what is being said. Given that the tape was recorded in an area supposedly devoid of audio urban signature, there should have been little ambient noise, yet the speech is masked with a great deal of noise. <br><br>But there are very good reasons to suspect that the tape is not what the US Government claims it to be. In the tape, Osama supposedly states that he knew of the attack on the WTC 5 days in advance, yet we know from the preparations inside the United States that the plan had been in existence for much longer than that. The records of those flight schools where the hijackers supposedly trained have been confiscated under the watchful eye of Jeb Bush, Governor of Florida and brother to the President. Will the Bush administration now claim that the hijackers learned to fly a passenger jet in just 5 days? <br><br>Likewise, The translation of the Osama tape has him stating that the hijackers did not know they were about to die, yet letters the FBI claim to have found written by the hijackers indicate the exact opposite.<br> <br>Finally, this was not the first video tape claiming to show Osama confessing, and claims made in the earlier "confession" tape, including a claim that Osama had nukes, were created by the translator, not actually stated by Osama. <br><br>This never-to-be- seen video also appeared right on cue:<br><br>Emergency powers to imprison suspected international terrorists indefinitely using special closed courts will be announced this week. The measure, which will require exemption from human rights legislation, will be used to round up about 20 suspects hiding in Britain beyond the reach of existing laws. [Telegraph 11/11/2001] <br><br>Even hard line secular Pakistanis were unconvinced by the released bin Laden video tape. Iqbal Haider, a former senator from the party of ousted prime minister Benazir Bhutto, said he found it hard to believe that bin Laden would allow himself to be filmed confessing to the crime. "It is hard to believe that a man who masterminds the September attacks with such secrecy and finesse could be that stupid and imprudent," he said. "I hate Osama and the Taliban because they inflicted incalculable damage on Muslims ... but it is hard to digest that he can be such a fool." <br><br>When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden's Most Wanted web page, [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11." ... The Muckraker Report attempted to secure a reference to the U.S. government authenticating the Bin Laden "confession video", to no avail. However, it is conclusive that the Bush Administration and U.S. Congress, along with the dead stream media, played the video as if it was authentic. So why doesn't the FBI view the "confession video" as hard evidence? [Muckraker Report] <br><br>You are being lied to by the US Government. 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Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN <br /> From: JP Liggett<br />2b. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN <br /> From: Naveed<br />2c. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN <br /> From: Jolly Roger<br />2d. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN <br /> From: Jolly Roger<br />2e. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN <br /> From: Jolly Roger<br />2f. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN <br /> From: Jolly Roger<br />2g. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN <br /> From: Jolly Roger</p><p class="mobile-post">3a. Re: 3m. Re: enuff ,,,,,,,Thermate or Methane/gypsum? DAMMMM <br /> From: Jacki Rankin Blue<br />3b. Re: 3m. Re: enuff ,,,,,,,Thermate or Methane/gypsum? DAMMMM <br /> From: Scott Peden</p><p class="mobile-post">4. Senator Byrd, needs your support to keep this ad on the air - Watch <br /> From: Quechick Barnyard</p><p class="mobile-post">5. FW: High-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens <br /> From: APFN</p><p class="mobile-post">6. URGENT-Can "CAPTN" MAY BE TRUSTED??-NO!! and WHY!!! <br /> From: Tim White</p><p class="mobile-post">7. Fw: [L&J] Fw: Who murdered 24 Canadians on 911? <br /> From: Pay_the_Piper</p><p class="mobile-post">8. Re: Fw: Some '9/11 Truth' Errors De-Bunked <br /> From: Naveed</p><p class="mobile-post">9. The Five Dancing Jews <br /> From: Pay_the_Piper</p><p class="mobile-post">10. Re: THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE <br /> From: Kevin Lee Hammond</p><p class="mobile-post">11. [Bush_Be_Gone] The unfinished story of Lucky Larry. <br /> From: Scott Peden</p><p class="mobile-post">12. Fwd: [ParanoidTimes] Alex Jones' Ground Zero Report and 9/11 news <br /> From: Kevin Lee Hammond</p><p class="mobile-post">13. cops <br /> From: Jolly Roger</p><p class="mobile-post">14. Wake Up and Smell the Cordite (USS Cole Caper) <br /> From: shaman_nation</p><p class="mobile-post">Messages<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">1. 9/11 5 Years Later...In Tampa Bay<br /> Posted by: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com scotpeden<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:38 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">9/11 5 Years Later...In Tampa Bay</p><p class="mobile-post">By: Elaine Nichols</p><p class="mobile-post">I left my house Monday morning a little later than I wanted to, and worried<br />if I would make it on time for our first event of the day, the morning<br />service memorializing those who lost their lives so horribly on that fateful<br />day 5 years ago, and wondering to myself how everyone could just go on about<br />their daily lives as if nothing ever happened.</p><p class="mobile-post">I arrived, with 10 minutes to spare, at the Old Historic Courthouse in<br />Downtown Tampa where a very small gathering of friends and media as they<br />awaited our guest of honor, Ray McGovern, who arrived shortly after I did.</p><p class="mobile-post">The service was really beautiful, with Ray's inspiring and thoughtful words,<br />a heart stirring poem written by a friend and fellow activist, and the<br />singing of America the beautiful...</p><p class="mobile-post">America, the Beautiful<br />By Katharine Lee Bates<br />O beautiful for spacious skies,<br />For amber waves of grain,<br />For purple mountain majesties<br />Above the fruited plain.<br />America! America! God shed His grace on thee,<br />And crown thy good with brotherhood<br />From sea to shining sea.<br />***<br />O beautiful for pilgrim feet,<br />Whose stern impassion'd stress<br />A thoroughfare for freedom beat<br />Across the wilderness.<br />America! America! God mend thine ev'ry flaw,<br />Confirm thy soul in self-control,<br />Thy liberty in law.<br />***<br />O beautiful for heroes prov'd<br />In liberating strife,<br />Who more than self their country loved,<br />And mercy more than life.<br />America! America! May God thy gold refine<br />Till all success be nobleness,<br />And ev'ry gain divine.<br />***<br />O Beautiful for patriot dream<br />that sees beyond the years.<br />Thine alabaster cities gleam,<br />Undimmed by human tears.<br />America! America! God shed his grace on thee,<br />And crown thy good with brotherhood,<br />From sea to shining sea.</p><p class="mobile-post">After the service, a very small group of us walked to the tallest buildings,<br />Ameritrust and BankofAmerica, to hand out 9/11Truth leaflets and DVD's. As<br />we walked around we were accompanied by our friendly TPD detail that were<br />arranged beforehand to make sure we were protected throughout downtown and<br />also later at the afternoon rally. I was pleasantly surprised at the<br />friendly nature of our police detail, and for the most part, they stayed<br />back and allowed us to pass out our leaflets and talk to the public without<br />any problems.</p><p class="mobile-post">In past events, this has not always been the case.</p><p class="mobile-post">My friends and I continued to be surprised at the lack of interest by many<br />passers by, which truly saddens me, and was just more validation of the<br />apathetic nature of too many citizens of this nation.</p><p class="mobile-post">The afternoon rally near the front gate of MacDill AFB (CENTCOM), was hugely<br />succesful. We had the VFP, CodePink, StPeteForPeace, and 911 meet-up<br />Tampabay, some local and state Anti-War/Pro-911truth candidates, and even a<br />few stragglers join us. This is one of the busiest intersections in Tampa on<br />a Monday afternoon, and the response from vehicles was more positive than<br />negative. I could count the negative comments on one hand, and that was<br />after three hours of heavy traffic.</p><p class="mobile-post">I then made my way to the library where I had organized a screening of 911<br />Mysteries<br /><http://www.911weknow.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=<br />10&Itemid=5> following the rally, and was pleasantly surprised to hear that<br />they had moved us to a bigger room, because they were bombarded with phone<br />calls all afternoon from people who were coming to see the movie. Needless<br />to say we had a really great crowd, and Ray McGovern got up to speak<br />following the movie, which led into a question and answer session, which we<br />eventually continued at a nearby BeefOBradys. What a great night!</p><p class="mobile-post">Thanks so much to Ray, who is a not only extremely intelligent, well spoken,<br />funny, and down to earth, but an all around really wonderful guy, and I<br />can't wait for him to come and visit with us again.</p><p class="mobile-post">Needless to say, after all of the media presence throughout the day, there<br />was nothing to show for it, not even a back page mention, not even in the<br />St.Pete Times, which usually gives us a good write up, and so the media<br />cover-up continues...</p><p class="mobile-post">In Unity and Truth,</p><p class="mobile-post">Elaine<br />moondancermom@gmail.com <mailto:moondancermom@gmail.com></p><p class="mobile-post">PS...I had the pleasure of speaking to Sophia, the maker of 911 Mysteries<br />today, and she is really an amazing woman. I want all of you to know that<br />this woman maxed out her credit cards, and mortgaged her home to make this<br />movie, so please, please, please, help her recoup her money by purchasing<br />the movie.</p><p class="mobile-post">There are two more parts of the movie that need to be made, and she cannot<br />continue her work without funding.</p><p class="mobile-post">This movie is the MOST powerful 911Truth tool yet, and she needs our help to<br />finish it!!</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.911weknow.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=1<br />0&Itemid=5<br /><http://www.911weknow.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=<br />10&Itemid=5></p><p class="mobile-post">--<br />Illegitimus non carborundum est</p><p class="mobile-post">"If the people lead, then eventually the leaders will follow." ~ Thomas<br />Jefferson</p><p class="mobile-post">Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to<br />make you commit atrocities.<br />~Voltaire</p><p class="mobile-post">"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes<br />me to tremble for the safety of my country... Corporations have been<br />enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money<br />power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the<br />prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and<br />the Republic is destroyed."<br />~ Abraham Lincoln - Nov 21, 1864</p><p class="mobile-post">There is no difference between the two parties. They are both Globalists,<br />with Big Business interests, not American interests. We need Statesmen who<br />look to the future, not Politicians who look to the hand that feeds them.<br />~ Donna Voetee</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.iahf.com <http://www.iahf.com><br />http://www.st911.org <http://www.st911.org><br />http://www.apfn.org <http://www.apfn.org><br />http://www.911weknow.com <http://www.911weknow.com><br />http://911blogger.com <http://911blogger.com></p><p class="mobile-post">Messages in this topic (1)<br />________________________________________________________________________<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">2a. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN<br /> Posted by: "JP Liggett" JP@JPLiggett.com jpliggett<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:45 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">I met someone at cooper union, who spoke about how he feels LC is a limited<br />hangout. he could not put his finger on what specific items he felt that<br />LC is steering people wrong with. He appeared sincere.. He felt that the<br />makers of LC were being led down some path, which may not be in the best<br />interests of the movement.<br />The movie has some excellent evidence, but I agree that it does not talk<br />about some non-bush actors. Silverstein is in the movie, but it does not<br />bring up his connections with netanyhu etc.<br />I met another man outside, who appeared to be associated in some way with<br />the producers of LC. The LC crew were giving him plenty of props.<br />He asked me where I thought the 911 movement is heading.<br />I told him I believed that some people were interested in those 3 letter<br />agencies that ran the 911 event, and cover it up to this day. That those<br />agencies and personnel are collectively complicit and they need to resign<br />now, or be arrested and sent to guantanemo for 4 years before they get a<br />lawyer. Then my gut told me this guy could be a spook, so I left.<br />Over the weekend, there were others taking video of movement folks, making<br />sure to get peoples faces. One guy tried to shoot me, and I kept moving<br />behind obstructions. I could see he was trying to get my image in a<br />discreet manner, but I was making him chase me.</p><p class="mobile-post">bottom line, 9/11 movements are under attack now. Independent actions as<br />we've been successful with, are making the perps nervous. The 911 TV shows<br />had all the correspondents 4 or 5 floors up, so they wouldn't be subjected<br />to the truth army.</p><p class="mobile-post"> <br /> Kevin Hammond <br /> <sir_oglaigh@yaho <br /> o.com> To <br /> Sent by: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com <br /> 911TruthAction@ya cc <br /> hoogroups.com <br /> Subject <br /> Re: [911TruthAction] Loose Change <br /> 09/13/2006 06:25 Creators on CNN <br /> PM <br /> <br /> <br /> Please respond to <br /> 911TruthAction@ya <br /> hoogroups.com <br /> <br /> </p><p class="mobile-post">Now dont get me wrong, I wont say that loose change aint a bit if a<br />limited hangout, But it does open the door for a wider investigation. But<br />huffschmids first release really did'nt do that much better except that it<br />covered a little on ok city. One of the only videos that I have actually<br />seen name names that are directly linked in the money trail is Don Paul and<br />Jim Hoffmans 9/11 Guilt. Watch it.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:<br /> I,d have to disagree with ya on Jones not naming names and fear mongering.<br /> I have on numerous occassions seen/heard him name rothschilds and others.<br /> And as I ahve said before, The zionists are only one part of the New<br /> World Order. One aspect, a tool, a cog in their machine. But ww will<br /> probably have this debate till the cows come home and I aint got no<br /> stinkin COWS! LMAO! I am in disagreement with you on the nwo stiuff too.<br /> And you left a few non yiddish/jewish names out like Morgans rockefellers<br /> and such. All that has to be done is to name the ones that have actually<br /> profitted form all of this madness and there will be the actual case.<br /> And far as I am concerned Smith, Bollyn, and Huffschmid are not telling<br /> the complete story. They are leaving out vital information. Contrary to<br /> what you espouse my friend the nwo is NOT just zionism as you have stated.<br /> But believe what you want.</p><p class="mobile-post"> Kevin</p><p class="mobile-post"> Jolly Roger <internetspies@yahoo.com> wrote:<br /> yes, Naveed. You're exactly right. Osama's not working so Bush is<br /> the new patsy. They might impeach him, and install a new Rothschild<br /> puppet. If that's the result nothing will change, and all of our<br /> work will have been in vain.<br /> Why do you think Loose Change is being promoted? It says nothing<br /> about the Israelis. Remember Deb Simon? She was a member of this<br /> group (maybe she still is) and she's the one paying for Loose<br /> Change. She's married into the billionaire zionist Simon family that<br /> owns about 250 shopping malls in the US, and fifty more in Europe.<br /> They (the simons) were long-time supporters of Senator Hamilton, who<br /> is still on their payroll, and was brought out of retirement to run<br /> the Kean - Hamilton commission that "investigated" the attacks. She<br /> also supported the BS "pod" dis-info, as well as con-artist Karl<br /> Schwartz in her attempts to discredit or de-rail the movement. (it<br /> wouldn't surprise me if she were paying Nico for the no-plane<br /> non-sense too) She failed at those attempts, so now she's pushing<br /> Loose Change to blame everything on Bush, which will provide cover<br /> for Israel and the Zionists.<br /> I don't know where people are geting their info, but please remember<br /> that most of what's available is dis-info, and there's a lot of<br /> money being spent (literally billions) on deceiving us. The only<br /> source I know of right now that has the cutting-edge research and<br /> uncompromised truth is Chris Bollyn and Eric Hufschmid --- both of<br /> whom were providing us with the best info since day one. Go to<br /> http://iamthewiitness.com/ and download the interviews. Regardless<br /> of what you think of Smith -- that's where the real truth is, and<br /> that's where the real truth movement needs to go. Those three<br /> (Hufschmid, Bollyn and Smith) are 100% dedicated activists who are<br /> telling the whole stopry, and naming names.<br /> Even Alex Jones is part of the deception. 14 years and he's never<br /> gotten to the top with his work -- he blames the new World Order,<br /> the Illuminati, etc. etc. but never brings you to the top of the<br /> pyramid. He's another gatekkeeper. Even though he's opening many<br /> people's eyes, what he really does is leave them in fear of these<br /> powerful groups that no one can seem to put their hands on. That's<br /> also why he's being promoted (he goes on TV)</p><p class="mobile-post"> The zionists did 9-11. The zionists own the media. They're not going<br /> to turn themselves in. It's a small network of very rich people and<br /> they can be stopped, but they won't be if everyone is chasing the<br /> "illuminati" or the "globalists." They have names -- Rothschild,<br /> Schiff, Warburg, Koen, Goldman, Simon, etc. etc. Learn them and use<br /> them.</p><p class="mobile-post"> Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:<br /> you watch, the media is already pinning 9/11 on bush, nothing<br /> about mossad, nothing about global government/new world odor.</p><p class="mobile-post"> all bush's fault, and no one else's. This is bigger than bush!<br /> This is about preserving/protecting America from the<br /> globalist bastards who wish to destroy it!</p><p class="mobile-post"> In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and<br /> brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the<br /> timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.<br /> - Notebook, 1904</p><p class="mobile-post"> http://www.fightthenwo.org/</p><p class="mobile-post"> ----- Original Message ----<br /> From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net><br /> To: Joe <joestokes@sbcglobal.nnet><br /> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:29:17 PM<br /> Subject: [911TruthAction] Loose Change Creators on CNN</p><p class="mobile-post"> http://www.911podca sts.com/files/ video/Zahn_ LC.wmv</p><p class="mobile-post"> Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.</p><p class="mobile-post"> Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo.org<br /> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates<br /> starting at 1¢/min.</p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo.org</p><p class="mobile-post"> Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+<br />countries) for 2¢/min or less. <br />Messages in this topic (12)<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">2b. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN<br /> Posted by: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com flanker12k<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:50 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">or the 5 dancing israelis<br /> <br />plz keep in mind that a few israelis doesn't imply all israelis are bad, just the ones who work for mossad<br /> <br />In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.<br />- Notebook, 1904</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.fightthenwo.org/ </p><p class="mobile-post">----- Original Message ----<br />From: JP Liggett <JP@JPLiggett.com><br />To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com<br />Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:42:04 PM<br />Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Loose Change Creators on CNN</p><p class="mobile-post">I met someone at cooper union, who spoke about how he feels LC is a limited<br />hangout. he could not put his finger on what specific items he felt that<br />LC is steering people wrong with. He appeared sincere.. He felt that the<br />makers of LC were being led down some path, which may not be in the best<br />interests of the movement.<br />The movie has some excellent evidence, but I agree that it does not talk<br />about some non-bush actors. Silverstein is in the movie, but it does not<br />bring up his connections with netanyhu etc.<br />I met another man outside, who appeared to be associated in some way with<br />the producers of LC. The LC crew were giving him plenty of props.<br />He asked me where I thought the 911 movement is heading.<br />I told him I believed that some people were interested in those 3 letter<br />agencies that ran the 911 event, and cover it up to this day. That those<br />agencies and personnel are collectively complicit and they need to resign<br />now, or be arrested and sent to guantanemo for 4 years before they get a<br />lawyer. Then my gut told me this guy could be a spook, so I left.<br />Over the weekend, there were others taking video of movement folks, making<br />sure to get peoples faces. One guy tried to shoot me, and I kept moving<br />behind obstructions. I could see he was trying to get my image in a<br />discreet manner, but I was making him chase me.</p><p class="mobile-post">bottom line, 9/11 movements are under attack now. Independent actions as<br />we've been successful with, are making the perps nervous. The 911 TV shows<br />had all the correspondents 4 or 5 floors up, so they wouldn't be subjected<br />to the truth army.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <br /><sir_oglaigh@ yaho <br />o.com> To <br />Sent by: 911TruthAction@ yahoogroups. com <br />911TruthAction@ ya cc <br />hoogroups.com <br />Subject <br />Re: [911TruthAction] Loose Change <br />09/13/2006 06:25 Creators on CNN <br />PM </p><p class="mobile-post">Please respond to <br />911TruthAction@ ya <br />hoogroups.com </p><p class="mobile-post">Now dont get me wrong, I wont say that loose change aint a bit if a<br />limited hangout, But it does open the door for a wider investigation. But<br />huffschmids first release really did'nt do that much better except that it<br />covered a little on ok city. One of the only videos that I have actually<br />seen name names that are directly linked in the money trail is Don Paul and<br />Jim Hoffmans 9/11 Guilt. Watch it.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@ yahoo.com> wrote:<br />I,d have to disagree with ya on Jones not naming names and fear mongering.<br />I have on numerous occassions seen/heard him name rothschilds and others.<br />And as I ahve said before, The zionists are only one part of the New<br />World Order. One aspect, a tool, a cog in their machine. But ww will<br />probably have this debate till the cows come home and I aint got no<br />stinkin COWS! LMAO! I am in disagreement with you on the nwo stiuff too.<br />And you left a few non yiddish/jewish names out like Morgans rockefellers<br />and such. All that has to be done is to name the ones that have actually<br />profitted form all of this madness and there will be the actual case.<br />And far as I am concerned Smith, Bollyn, and Huffschmid are not telling<br />the complete story. They are leaving out vital information. Contrary to<br />what you espouse my friend the nwo is NOT just zionism as you have stated.<br />But believe what you want.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin</p><p class="mobile-post">Jolly Roger <internetspies@ yahoo.com> wrote:<br />yes, Naveed. You're exactly right. Osama's not working so Bush is<br />the new patsy. They might impeach him, and install a new Rothschild<br />puppet. If that's the result nothing will change, and all of our<br />work will have been in vain.<br />Why do you think Loose Change is being promoted? It says nothing<br />about the Israelis. Remember Deb Simon? She was a member of this<br />group (maybe she still is) and she's the one paying for Loose<br />Change. She's married into the billionaire zionist Simon family that<br />owns about 250 shopping malls in the US, and fifty more in Europe.<br />They (the simons) were long-time supporters of Senator Hamilton, who<br />is still on their payroll, and was brought out of retirement to run<br />the Kean - Hamilton commission that "investigated" the attacks. She<br />also supported the BS "pod" dis-info, as well as con-artist Karl<br />Schwartz in her attempts to discredit or de-rail the movement. (it<br />wouldn't surprise me if she were paying Nico for the no-plane<br />non-sense too) She failed at those attempts, so now she's pushing<br />Loose Change to blame everything on Bush, which will provide cover<br />for Israel and the Zionists.<br />I don't know where people are geting their info, but please remember<br />that most of what's available is dis-info, and there's a lot of<br />money being spent (literally billions) on deceiving us. The only<br />source I know of right now that has the cutting-edge research and<br />uncompromised truth is Chris Bollyn and Eric Hufschmid --- both of<br />whom were providing us with the best info since day one. Go to<br />http://iamthewiitne ss.com/ and download the interviews. Regardless<br />of what you think of Smith -- that's where the real truth is, and<br />that's where the real truth movement needs to go. Those three<br />(Hufschmid, Bollyn and Smith) are 100% dedicated activists who are<br />telling the whole stopry, and naming names.<br />Even Alex Jones is part of the deception. 14 years and he's never<br />gotten to the top with his work -- he blames the new World Order,<br />the Illuminati, etc. etc. but never brings you to the top of the<br />pyramid. He's another gatekkeeper. Even though he's opening many<br />people's eyes, what he really does is leave them in fear of these<br />powerful groups that no one can seem to put their hands on. That's<br />also why he's being promoted (he goes on TV)</p><p class="mobile-post">The zionists did 9-11. The zionists own the media. They're not going<br />to turn themselves in. It's a small network of very rich people and<br />they can be stopped, but they won't be if everyone is chasing the<br />"illuminati" or the "globalists. " They have names -- Rothschild,<br />Schiff, Warburg, Koen, Goldman, Simon, etc. etc. Learn them and use<br />them.</p><p class="mobile-post">Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo. com> wrote:<br />you watch, the media is already pinning 9/11 on bush, nothing<br />about mossad, nothing about global government/new world odor.</p><p class="mobile-post">all bush's fault, and no one else's. This is bigger than bush!<br />This is about preserving/protecti ng America from the<br />globalist bastards who wish to destroy it!</p><p class="mobile-post">In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and<br />brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the<br />timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.<br />- Notebook, 1904</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.fightthe nwo.org/</p><p class="mobile-post">----- Original Message ----<br />From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal .net><br />To: Joe <joestokes@sbcglobal .nnet><br />Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:29:17 PM<br />Subject: [911TruthAction] Loose Change Creators on CNN</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.911podca sts.com/files/ video/Zahn_ LC.wmv</p><p class="mobile-post">Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.</p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo. org<br />Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates<br />starting at 1¢/min.</p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo. org</p><p class="mobile-post">Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+<br />countries) for 2¢/min or less. <br /> <br />Messages in this topic (12)<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">2c. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN<br /> Posted by: "Jolly Roger" internetspies@yahoo.com internetspies<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:51 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post"> <br /> you also have to remember that hufschmid's video was also put out in 2002 or 2003 -- there wasn't as much evidence to work with back then. <br /> Yes -- of course there are non-Jewish names involved -- but at lower levels. It all leads right up to the international bankers, who are Jewish, and people who they financed, most of whom were Jewish too. <br /> You have to remember that the Jews were thrown out of about 80 countries throughout the last two thousand years -- in most places they were not allowed to own land, and banking was one of their only business options, so like any other profession, it was passed down from father to son. A generation ago anyone who worked with bricks, cement or tile was Italian, but the Italians left those trades as they did better in society so that profession isn't as ethnically didvided as it once was. If your father is a successful banker, it's not very likely that you'll become a brick layer regardless of whether you're Jewish or Itallian. <br /> yes, naveed -- of course not all of any group is bad, and actually, most of every group is good. As usual it's just a few rich people on top that cause the troubles, in any or every group. <br /> Don't worry -- they'll never be any "rounding up" of Jewish people in America as there was in Germany -- Jews today are far to assimilated in our society for anything like that to happen again. Everyone has Jewish friends, relatives, co-workers, etc. I don't even think they could get away with rounding up the "Islamo-fascists" <br /> Even these skin-head and Neo-Nazi groups are started by Zionists. <br /> The thing to remember is that Zionism NEEDS anti-semitism, so they create it. I've never met anyone who disliked people because they were Jewish -- I think that's a product of TV and Hollywood (both zionist institutions) </p><p class="mobile-post">Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:<br /> <br /> or the 5 dancing israelis<br /> <br /> plz keep in mind that a few israelis doesn't imply all israelis are bad, just the ones who work for mossad<br /> <br />In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.<br />- Notebook, 1904</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.fightthenwo.org/ </p><p class="mobile-post"> ----- Original Message ----<br />From: JP Liggett <JP@JPLiggett.com><br />To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com<br />Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:42:04 PM<br />Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Loose Change Creators on CNN</p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post">I met someone at cooper union, who spoke about how he feels LC is a limited<br />hangout. he could not put his finger on what specific items he felt that<br />LC is steering people wrong with. He appeared sincere.. He felt that the<br />makers of LC were being led down some path, which may not be in the best<br />interests of the movement.<br />The movie has some excellent evidence, but I agree that it does not talk<br />about some non-bush actors. Silverstein is in the movie, but it does not<br />bring up his connections with netanyhu etc.<br />I met another man outside, who appeared to be associated in some way with<br />the producers of LC. The LC crew were giving him plenty of props.<br />He asked me where I thought the 911 movement is heading.<br />I told him I believed that some people were interested in those 3 letter<br />agencies that ran the 911 event, and cover it up to this day. That those<br />agencies and personnel are collectively complicit and they need to resign<br />now, or be arrested and sent to guantanemo for 4 years before they get a<br />lawyer. Then my gut told me this guy could be a spook, so I left.<br />Over the weekend, there were others taking video of movement folks, making<br />sure to get peoples faces. One guy tried to shoot me, and I kept moving<br />behind obstructions. I could see he was trying to get my image in a<br />discreet manner, but I was making him chase me.</p><p class="mobile-post">bottom line, 9/11 movements are under attack now. Independent actions as<br />we've been successful with, are making the perps nervous. The 911 TV shows<br />had all the correspondents 4 or 5 floors up, so they wouldn't be subjected<br />to the truth army.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <br /><sir_oglaigh@ yaho <br />o.com> To <br />Sent by: 911TruthAction@ yahoogroups. com <br />911TruthAction@ ya cc <br />hoogroups.com <br />Subject <br />Re: [911TruthAction] Loose Change <br />09/13/2006 06:25 Creators on CNN <br />PM </p><p class="mobile-post">Please respond to <br />911TruthAction@ ya <br />hoogroups.com </p><p class="mobile-post">Now dont get me wrong, I wont say that loose change aint a bit if a<br />limited hangout, But it does open the door for a wider investigation. But<br />huffschmids first release really did'nt do that much better except that it<br />covered a little on ok city. One of the only videos that I have actually<br />seen name names that are directly linked in the money trail is Don Paul and<br />Jim Hoffmans 9/11 Guilt. Watch it.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@ yahoo.com> wrote:<br />I,d have to disagree with ya on Jones not naming names and fear mongering.<br />I have on numerous occassions seen/heard him name rothschilds and others.<br />And as I ahve said before, The zionists are only one part of the New<br />World Order. One aspect, a tool, a cog in their machine. But ww will<br />probably have this debate till the cows come home and I aint got no<br />stinkin COWS! LMAO! I am in disagreement with you on the nwo stiuff too.<br />And you left a few non yiddish/jewish names out like Morgans rockefellers<br />and such. All that has to be done is to name the ones that have actually<br />profitted form all of this madness and there will be the actual case.<br />And far as I am concerned Smith, Bollyn, and Huffschmid are not telling<br />the complete story. They are leaving out vital information. Contrary to<br />what you espouse my friend the nwo is NOT just zionism as you have stated.<br />But believe what you want.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin</p><p class="mobile-post">Jolly Roger <internetspies@ yahoo.com> wrote:<br />yes, Naveed. You're exactly right. Osama's not working so Bush is<br />the new patsy. They might impeach him, and install a new Rothschild<br />puppet. If that's the result nothing will change, and all of our<br />work will have been in vain.<br />Why do you think Loose Change is being promoted? It says nothing<br />about the Israelis. Remember Deb Simon? She was a member of this<br />group (maybe she still is) and she's the one paying for Loose<br />Change. She's married into the billionaire zionist Simon family that<br />owns about 250 shopping malls in the US, and fifty more in Europe.<br />They (the simons) were long-time supporters of Senator Hamilton, who<br />is still on their payroll, and was brought out of retirement to run<br />the Kean - Hamilton commission that "investigated" the attacks. She<br />also supported the BS "pod" dis-info, as well as con-artist Karl<br />Schwartz in her attempts to discredit or de-rail the movement. (it<br />wouldn't surprise me if she were paying Nico for the no-plane<br />non-sense too) She failed at those attempts, so now she's pushing<br />Loose Change to blame everything on Bush, which will provide cover<br />for Israel and the Zionists.<br />I don't know where people are geting their info, but please remember<br />that most of what's available is dis-info, and there's a lot of<br />money being spent (literally billions) on deceiving us. The only<br />source I know of right now that has the cutting-edge research and<br />uncompromised truth is Chris Bollyn and Eric Hufschmid --- both of<br />whom were providing us with the best info since day one. Go to<br />http://iamthewiitne ss.com/ and download the interviews. Regardless<br />of what you think of Smith -- that's where the real truth is, and<br />that's where the real truth movement needs to go. Those three<br />(Hufschmid, Bollyn and Smith) are 100% dedicated activists who are<br />telling the whole stopry, and naming names.<br />Even Alex Jones is part of the deception. 14 years and he's never<br />gotten to the top with his work -- he blames the new World Order,<br />the Illuminati, etc. etc. but never brings you to the top of the<br />pyramid. He's another gatekkeeper. Even though he's opening many<br />people's eyes, what he really does is leave them in fear of these<br />powerful groups that no one can seem to put their hands on. That's<br />also why he's being promoted (he goes on TV)</p><p class="mobile-post">The zionists did 9-11. The zionists own the media. They're not going<br />to turn themselves in. It's a small network of very rich people and<br />they can be stopped, but they won't be if everyone is chasing the<br />"illuminati" or the "globalists. " They have names -- Rothschild,<br />Schiff, Warburg, Koen, Goldman, Simon, etc. etc. Learn them and use<br />them.</p><p class="mobile-post">Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo. com> wrote:<br />you watch, the media is already pinning 9/11 on bush, nothing<br />about mossad, nothing about global government/new world odor.</p><p class="mobile-post">all bush's fault, and no one else's. This is bigger than bush!<br />This is about preserving/protecti ng America from the<br />globalist bastards who wish to destroy it!</p><p class="mobile-post">In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and<br />brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the<br />timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.<br />- Notebook, 1904</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.fightthe nwo.org/</p><p class="mobile-post">----- Original Message ----<br />From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal .net><br />To: Joe <joestokes@sbcglobal .nnet><br />Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:29:17 PM<br />Subject: [911TruthAction] Loose Change Creators on CNN</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.911podca sts.com/files/ video/Zahn_ LC.wmv</p><p class="mobile-post">Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.</p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo. org<br />Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates<br />starting at 1¢/min.</p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo. org</p><p class="mobile-post">Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+<br />countries) for 2¢/min or less. </p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br />Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.<br /> <br />---------------------------------<br />Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.<br />Messages in this topic (12)<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">2d. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN<br /> Posted by: "Jolly Roger" internetspies@yahoo.com internetspies<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:11 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">The Morgans and the Rockerfellers are jewish -- and both fortunes were seeded with Rothschild cash. When J.P. Morgan died it turned out that he only owned 17% of his fortune -- the rest went back to Rothschild. </p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote: I,d have to disagree with ya on Jones not naming names and fear mongering. I have on numerous occassions seen/heard him name rothschilds and others. And as I ahve said before, The zionists are only one part of the New World Order. One aspect, a tool, a cog in their machine. But ww will probably have this debate till the cows come home and I aint got no stinkin COWS! LMAO! I am in disagreement with you on the nwo stiuff too. And you left a few non yiddish/jewish names out like Morgans rockefellers and such. All that has to be done is to name the ones that have actually profitted form all of this madness and there will be the actual case. And far as I am concerned Smith, Bollyn, and Huffschmid are not telling the complete story. They are leaving out vital information. Contrary to what you espouse my friend the nwo is NOT just zionism as you have stated. But believe what you want.<br /> <br /> Kevin</p><p class="mobile-post">Jolly Roger <internetspies@yahoo.com> wrote:<br /> yes, Naveed. You're exactly right. Osama's not working so Bush is the new patsy. They might impeach him, and install a new Rothschild puppet. If that's the result nothing will change, and all of our work will have been in vain. <br /> Why do you think Loose Change is being promoted? It says nothing about the Israelis. Remember Deb Simon? She was a member of this group (maybe she still is) and she's the one paying for Loose Change. She's married into the billionaire zionist Simon family that owns about 250 shopping malls in the US, and fifty more in Europe. They (the simons) were long-time supporters of Senator Hamilton, who is still on their payroll, and was brought out of retirement to run the Kean - Hamilton commission that "investigated" the attacks. She also supported the BS "pod" dis-info, as well as con-artist Karl Schwartz in her attempts to discredit or de-rail the movement. (it wouldn't surprise me if she were paying Nico for the no-plane non-sense too) She failed at those attempts, so now she's pushing Loose Change to blame everything on Bush, which will provide cover for Israel and the Zionists. <br /> I don't know where people are geting their info, but please remember that most of what's available is dis-info, and there's a lot of money being spent (literally billions) on deceiving us. The only source I know of right now that has the cutting-edge research and uncompromised truth is Chris Bollyn and Eric Hufschmid --- both of whom were providing us with the best info since day one. Go to http://iamthewitness.com/ and download the interviews. Regardless of what you think of Smith -- that's where the real truth is, and that's where the real truth movement needs to go. Those three (Hufschmid, Bollyn and Smith) are 100% dedicated activists who are telling the whole stopry, and naming names. <br /> Even Alex Jones is part of the deception. 14 years and he's never gotten to the top with his work -- he blames the new World Order, the Illuminati, etc. etc. but never brings you to the top of the pyramid. He's another gatekeeper. Even though he's opening many people's eyes, what he really does is leave them in fear of these powerful groups that no one can seem to put their hands on. That's also why he's being promoted (he goes on TV) <br /> <br /> The zionists did 9-11. The zionists own the media. They're not going to turn themselves in. It's a small network of very rich people and they can be stopped, but they won't be if everyone is chasing the "illuminati" or the "globalists." They have names -- Rothschild, Schiff, Warburg, Koen, Goldman, Simon, etc. etc. Learn them and use them. </p><p class="mobile-post">Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:<br /> <br /> you watch, the media is already pinning 9/11 on bush, nothing about mossad, nothing about global government/new world odor.<br /> <br /> all bush's fault, and no one else's. This is bigger than bush! This is about preserving/protecting America from the globalist bastards who wish to destroy it!<br /> <br />In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.<br />- Notebook, 1904</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.fightthenwo.org/ </p><p class="mobile-post"> ----- Original Message ----<br />From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net><br />To: Joe <joestokes@sbcglobal.net><br />Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:29:17 PM<br />Subject: [911TruthAction] Loose Change Creators on CNN</p><p class="mobile-post"> http://www.911podca sts.com/files/ video/Zahn_ LC.wmv</p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br /> Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. </p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo.org <br />---------------------------------<br /> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. </p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br />Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.<br /> <br />---------------------------------<br />How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.<br />Messages in this topic (12)<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">2e. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN<br /> Posted by: "Jolly Roger" internetspies@yahoo.com internetspies<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:24 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">Loose change is good -- but I did count a few mistakes in it. <br /> You've learned a lot in the last few years -- no one can fit it all onto one DVD -- so every DVD you see will "not be telling the whole story." Hopefully many who see it will keep digging for info, but no one DVD is going to have all the facts. <br /> I think the general complaint is that it avoids any mention of Israel, but that might be an advantage too. I've always avoided mentioning Israeli connections because I thought it was a good marketing strategy. I certainly wasn't being paid off by zionists. That's the problem with Smith -- everyone who is not screaming about the zionists is part of the "criminal network." What the idiot doesn't realize is that he, Bollyn and Hufschmid are the first ones to research it that far. It's just the next step if you keep following the info. Hufschmid's video didn't mention the zionists either -- that's because it's relatively new info. </p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:<br /> Now dont get me wrong, I wont say that loose change aint a bit if a limited hangout, But it does open the door for a wider investigation. But huffschmids first release really did'nt do that much better except that it covered a little on ok city. One of the only videos that I have actually seen name names that are directly linked in the money trail is Don Paul and Jim Hoffmans 9/11 Guilt. Watch it.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote: I,d have to disagree with ya on Jones not naming names and fear mongering. I have on numerous occassions seen/heard him name rothschilds and others. And as I ahve said before, The zionists are only one part of the New World Order. One aspect, a tool, a cog in their machine. But ww will probably have this debate till the cows come home and I aint got no stinkin COWS! LMAO! I am in disagreement with you on the nwo stiuff too. And you left a few non yiddish/jewish names out like Morgans rockefellers and such. All that has to be done is to name the ones that have actually profitted form all of this madness and there will be the actual case. And far as I am concerned Smith, Bollyn, and Huffschmid are not telling the complete story. They are leaving out vital information. Contrary to what you espouse my friend the nwo is NOT just zionism as you have stated. But believe what you want.<br /> <br /> Kevin</p><p class="mobile-post">Jolly Roger <internetspies@yahoo.com> wrote:<br /> yes, Naveed. You're exactly right. Osama's not working so Bush is the new patsy. They might impeach him, and install a new Rothschild puppet. If that's the result nothing will change, and all of our work will have been in vain. <br /> Why do you think Loose Change is being promoted? It says nothing about the Israelis. Remember Deb Simon? She was a member of this group (maybe she still is) and she's the one paying for Loose Change. She's married into the billionaire zionist Simon family that owns about 250 shopping malls in the US, and fifty more in Europe. They (the simons) were long-time supporters of Senator Hamilton, who is still on their payroll, and was brought out of retirement to run the Kean - Hamilton commission that "investigated" the attacks. She also supported the BS "pod" dis-info, as well as con-artist Karl Schwartz in her attempts to discredit or de-rail the movement. (it wouldn't surprise me if she were paying Nico for the no-plane non-sense too) She failed at those attempts, so now she's pushing Loose Change to blame everything on Bush, which will provide cover for Israel and the Zionists. <br /> I don't know where people are geting their info, but please remember that most of what's available is dis-info, and there's a lot of money being spent (literally billions) on deceiving us. The only source I know of right now that has the cutting-edge research and uncompromised truth is Chris Bollyn and Eric Hufschmid --- both of whom were providing us with the best info since day one. Go to http://iamthewitness.com/ and download the interviews. Regardless of what you think of Smith -- that's where the real truth is, and that's where the real truth movement needs to go. Those three (Hufschmid, Bollyn and Smith) are 100% dedicated activists who are telling the whole stopry, and naming names. <br /> Even Alex Jones is part of the deception. 14 years and he's never gotten to the top with his work -- he blames the new World Order, the Illuminati, etc. etc. but never brings you to the top of the pyramid. He's another gatekeeper. Even though he's opening many people's eyes, what he really does is leave them in fear of these powerful groups that no one can seem to put their hands on. That's also why he's being promoted (he goes on TV) <br /> <br /> The zionists did 9-11. The zionists own the media. They're not going to turn themselves in. It's a small network of very rich people and they can be stopped, but they won't be if everyone is chasing the "illuminati" or the "globalists." They have names -- Rothschild, Schiff, Warburg, Koen, Goldman, Simon, etc. etc. Learn them and use them. </p><p class="mobile-post">Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:<br /> <br /> you watch, the media is already pinning 9/11 on bush, nothing about mossad, nothing about global government/new world odor.<br /> <br /> all bush's fault, and no one else's. This is bigger than bush! This is about preserving/protecting America from the globalist bastards who wish to destroy it!<br /> <br />In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.<br />- Notebook, 1904</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.fightthenwo.org/ </p><p class="mobile-post"> ----- Original Message ----<br />From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net><br />To: Joe <joestokes@sbcglobal.net><br />Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:29:17 PM<br />Subject: [911TruthAction] Loose Change Creators on CNN</p><p class="mobile-post"> http://www.911podca sts.com/files/ video/Zahn_ LC.wmv</p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br /> Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. </p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo.org <br />---------------------------------<br /> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. </p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo.org <br />---------------------------------<br /> Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. </p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br /> All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.<br /> <br />---------------------------------<br />Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. <br />Messages in this topic (12)<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">2f. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN<br /> Posted by: "Jolly Roger" internetspies@yahoo.com internetspies<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:26 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">J.P. -- when was this connection between silverstein and Nettin'Yahoo discovered? <br /> I thought this was fairly recent news, and LC might simply pre-date it. <br /> We do have to work on this Israeli connection though --- or else we just get Bush as a patsy and nothing changes. We need to expose the federal reserve for the scam that it is. <br /> <br /> I highly recommend this movie: <br /> http://www.themoneymasters.com/</p><p class="mobile-post">JP Liggett <JP@JPLiggett.com> wrote:<br /> </p><p class="mobile-post">I met someone at cooper union, who spoke about how he feels LC is a limited<br />hangout. he could not put his finger on what specific items he felt that<br />LC is steering people wrong with. He appeared sincere.. He felt that the<br />makers of LC were being led down some path, which may not be in the best<br />interests of the movement.<br />The movie has some excellent evidence, but I agree that it does not talk<br />about some non-bush actors. Silverstein is in the movie, but it does not<br />bring up his connections with netanyhu etc.<br />I met another man outside, who appeared to be associated in some way with<br />the producers of LC. The LC crew were giving him plenty of props.<br />He asked me where I thought the 911 movement is heading.<br />I told him I believed that some people were interested in those 3 letter<br />agencies that ran the 911 event, and cover it up to this day. That those<br />agencies and personnel are collectively complicit and they need to resign<br />now, or be arrested and sent to guantanemo for 4 years before they get a<br />lawyer. Then my gut told me this guy could be a spook, so I left.<br />Over the weekend, there were others taking video of movement folks, making<br />sure to get peoples faces. One guy tried to shoot me, and I kept moving<br />behind obstructions. I could see he was trying to get my image in a<br />discreet manner, but I was making him chase me.</p><p class="mobile-post">bottom line, 9/11 movements are under attack now. Independent actions as<br />we've been successful with, are making the perps nervous. The 911 TV shows<br />had all the correspondents 4 or 5 floors up, so they wouldn't be subjected<br />to the truth army.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <br /><sir_oglaigh@yaho <br />o.com> To <br />Sent by: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com <br />911TruthAction@ya cc <br />hoogroups.com <br />Subject <br />Re: [911TruthAction] Loose Change <br />09/13/2006 06:25 Creators on CNN <br />PM </p><p class="mobile-post">Please respond to <br />911TruthAction@ya <br />hoogroups.com </p><p class="mobile-post">Now dont get me wrong, I wont say that loose change aint a bit if a<br />limited hangout, But it does open the door for a wider investigation. But<br />huffschmids first release really did'nt do that much better except that it<br />covered a little on ok city. One of the only videos that I have actually<br />seen name names that are directly linked in the money trail is Don Paul and<br />Jim Hoffmans 9/11 Guilt. Watch it.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:<br />I,d have to disagree with ya on Jones not naming names and fear mongering.<br />I have on numerous occassions seen/heard him name rothschilds and others.<br />And as I ahve said before, The zionists are only one part of the New<br />World Order. One aspect, a tool, a cog in their machine. But ww will<br />probably have this debate till the cows come home and I aint got no<br />stinkin COWS! LMAO! I am in disagreement with you on the nwo stiuff too.<br />And you left a few non yiddish/jewish names out like Morgans rockefellers<br />and such. All that has to be done is to name the ones that have actually<br />profitted form all of this madness and there will be the actual case.<br />And far as I am concerned Smith, Bollyn, and Huffschmid are not telling<br />the complete story. They are leaving out vital information. Contrary to<br />what you espouse my friend the nwo is NOT just zionism as you have stated.<br />But believe what you want.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin</p><p class="mobile-post">Jolly Roger <internetspies@yahoo.com> wrote:<br />yes, Naveed. You're exactly right. Osama's not working so Bush is<br />the new patsy. They might impeach him, and install a new Rothschild<br />puppet. If that's the result nothing will change, and all of our<br />work will have been in vain.<br />Why do you think Loose Change is being promoted? It says nothing<br />about the Israelis. Remember Deb Simon? She was a member of this<br />group (maybe she still is) and she's the one paying for Loose<br />Change. She's married into the billionaire zionist Simon family that<br />owns about 250 shopping malls in the US, and fifty more in Europe.<br />They (the simons) were long-time supporters of Senator Hamilton, who<br />is still on their payroll, and was brought out of retirement to run<br />the Kean - Hamilton commission that "investigated" the attacks. She<br />also supported the BS "pod" dis-info, as well as con-artist Karl<br />Schwartz in her attempts to discredit or de-rail the movement. (it<br />wouldn't surprise me if she were paying Nico for the no-plane<br />non-sense too) She failed at those attempts, so now she's pushing<br />Loose Change to blame everything on Bush, which will provide cover<br />for Israel and the Zionists.<br />I don't know where people are geting their info, but please remember<br />that most of what's available is dis-info, and there's a lot of<br />money being spent (literally billions) on deceiving us. The only<br />source I know of right now that has the cutting-edge research and<br />uncompromised truth is Chris Bollyn and Eric Hufschmid --- both of<br />whom were providing us with the best info since day one. Go to<br />http://iamthewiitness.com/ and download the interviews. Regardless<br />of what you think of Smith -- that's where the real truth is, and<br />that's where the real truth movement needs to go. Those three<br />(Hufschmid, Bollyn and Smith) are 100% dedicated activists who are<br />telling the whole stopry, and naming names.<br />Even Alex Jones is part of the deception. 14 years and he's never<br />gotten to the top with his work -- he blames the new World Order,<br />the Illuminati, etc. etc. but never brings you to the top of the<br />pyramid. He's another gatekkeeper. Even though he's opening many<br />people's eyes, what he really does is leave them in fear of these<br />powerful groups that no one can seem to put their hands on. That's<br />also why he's being promoted (he goes on TV)</p><p class="mobile-post">The zionists did 9-11. The zionists own the media. They're not going<br />to turn themselves in. It's a small network of very rich people and<br />they can be stopped, but they won't be if everyone is chasing the<br />"illuminati" or the "globalists." They have names -- Rothschild,<br />Schiff, Warburg, Koen, Goldman, Simon, etc. etc. Learn them and use<br />them.</p><p class="mobile-post">Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:<br />you watch, the media is already pinning 9/11 on bush, nothing<br />about mossad, nothing about global government/new world odor.</p><p class="mobile-post">all bush's fault, and no one else's. This is bigger than bush!<br />This is about preserving/protecting America from the<br />globalist bastards who wish to destroy it!</p><p class="mobile-post">In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and<br />brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the<br />timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.<br />- Notebook, 1904</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.fightthenwo.org/</p><p class="mobile-post">----- Original Message ----<br />From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net><br />To: Joe <joestokes@sbcglobal.nnet><br />Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:29:17 PM<br />Subject: [911TruthAction] Loose Change Creators on CNN</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.911podca sts.com/files/ video/Zahn_ LC.wmv</p><p class="mobile-post">Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.</p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo.org<br />Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates<br />starting at 1¢/min.</p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo.org</p><p class="mobile-post">Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+<br />countries) for 2¢/min or less. </p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br />Do you Yahoo!?<br /> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.<br /> <br />---------------------------------<br />Do you Yahoo!?<br /> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.<br /> <br />---------------------------------<br />Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.<br />Messages in this topic (12)<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">2g. Re: Loose Change Creators on CNN<br /> Posted by: "Jolly Roger" internetspies@yahoo.com internetspies<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:31 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">J.P. -- when was this connection between silverstein and Nettin'Yahoo discovered? <br /> I thought this was fairly recent news, and LC might simply pre-date it. <br /> We do have to work on this Israeli connection though --- or else we just get Bush as a patsy and nothing changes. We need to expose the federal reserve for the scam that it is. <br /> <br /> I highly recommend this movie: <br /> http://www.themoneymasters.com/</p><p class="mobile-post">JP Liggett <JP@JPLiggett.com> wrote:<br /> </p><p class="mobile-post">I met someone at cooper union, who spoke about how he feels LC is a limited<br />hangout. he could not put his finger on what specific items he felt that<br />LC is steering people wrong with. He appeared sincere.. He felt that the<br />makers of LC were being led down some path, which may not be in the best<br />interests of the movement.<br />The movie has some excellent evidence, but I agree that it does not talk<br />about some non-bush actors. Silverstein is in the movie, but it does not<br />bring up his connections with netanyhu etc.<br />I met another man outside, who appeared to be associated in some way with<br />the producers of LC. The LC crew were giving him plenty of props.<br />He asked me where I thought the 911 movement is heading.<br />I told him I believed that some people were interested in those 3 letter<br />agencies that ran the 911 event, and cover it up to this day. That those<br />agencies and personnel are collectively complicit and they need to resign<br />now, or be arrested and sent to guantanemo for 4 years before they get a<br />lawyer. Then my gut told me this guy could be a spook, so I left.<br />Over the weekend, there were others taking video of movement folks, making<br />sure to get peoples faces. One guy tried to shoot me, and I kept moving<br />behind obstructions. I could see he was trying to get my image in a<br />discreet manner, but I was making him chase me.</p><p class="mobile-post">bottom line, 9/11 movements are under attack now. Independent actions as<br />we've been successful with, are making the perps nervous. The 911 TV shows<br />had all the correspondents 4 or 5 floors up, so they wouldn't be subjected<br />to the truth army.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <br /><sir_oglaigh@yaho <br />o.com> To <br />Sent by: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com <br />911TruthAction@ya cc <br />hoogroups.com <br />Subject <br />Re: [911TruthAction] Loose Change <br />09/13/2006 06:25 Creators on CNN <br />PM </p><p class="mobile-post">Please respond to <br />911TruthAction@ya <br />hoogroups.com </p><p class="mobile-post">Now dont get me wrong, I wont say that loose change aint a bit if a<br />limited hangout, But it does open the door for a wider investigation. But<br />huffschmids first release really did'nt do that much better except that it<br />covered a little on ok city. One of the only videos that I have actually<br />seen name names that are directly linked in the money trail is Don Paul and<br />Jim Hoffmans 9/11 Guilt. Watch it.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:<br />I,d have to disagree with ya on Jones not naming names and fear mongering.<br />I have on numerous occassions seen/heard him name rothschilds and others.<br />And as I ahve said before, The zionists are only one part of the New<br />World Order. One aspect, a tool, a cog in their machine. But ww will<br />probably have this debate till the cows come home and I aint got no<br />stinkin COWS! LMAO! I am in disagreement with you on the nwo stiuff too.<br />And you left a few non yiddish/jewish names out like Morgans rockefellers<br />and such. All that has to be done is to name the ones that have actually<br />profitted form all of this madness and there will be the actual case.<br />And far as I am concerned Smith, Bollyn, and Huffschmid are not telling<br />the complete story. They are leaving out vital information. Contrary to<br />what you espouse my friend the nwo is NOT just zionism as you have stated.<br />But believe what you want.</p><p class="mobile-post">Kevin</p><p class="mobile-post">Jolly Roger <internetspies@yahoo.com> wrote:<br />yes, Naveed. You're exactly right. Osama's not working so Bush is<br />the new patsy. They might impeach him, and install a new Rothschild<br />puppet. If that's the result nothing will change, and all of our<br />work will have been in vain.<br />Why do you think Loose Change is being promoted? It says nothing<br />about the Israelis. Remember Deb Simon? She was a member of this<br />group (maybe she still is) and she's the one paying for Loose<br />Change. She's married into the billionaire zionist Simon family that<br />owns about 250 shopping malls in the US, and fifty more in Europe.<br />They (the simons) were long-time supporters of Senator Hamilton, who<br />is still on their payroll, and was brought out of retirement to run<br />the Kean - Hamilton commission that "investigated" the attacks. She<br />also supported the BS "pod" dis-info, as well as con-artist Karl<br />Schwartz in her attempts to discredit or de-rail the movement. (it<br />wouldn't surprise me if she were paying Nico for the no-plane<br />non-sense too) She failed at those attempts, so now she's pushing<br />Loose Change to blame everything on Bush, which will provide cover<br />for Israel and the Zionists.<br />I don't know where people are geting their info, but please remember<br />that most of what's available is dis-info, and there's a lot of<br />money being spent (literally billions) on deceiving us. The only<br />source I know of right now that has the cutting-edge research and<br />uncompromised truth is Chris Bollyn and Eric Hufschmid --- both of<br />whom were providing us with the best info since day one. Go to<br />http://iamthewiitness.com/ and download the interviews. Regardless<br />of what you think of Smith -- that's where the real truth is, and<br />that's where the real truth movement needs to go. Those three<br />(Hufschmid, Bollyn and Smith) are 100% dedicated activists who are<br />telling the whole stopry, and naming names.<br />Even Alex Jones is part of the deception. 14 years and he's never<br />gotten to the top with his work -- he blames the new World Order,<br />the Illuminati, etc. etc. but never brings you to the top of the<br />pyramid. He's another gatekkeeper. Even though he's opening many<br />people's eyes, what he really does is leave them in fear of these<br />powerful groups that no one can seem to put their hands on. That's<br />also why he's being promoted (he goes on TV)</p><p class="mobile-post">The zionists did 9-11. The zionists own the media. They're not going<br />to turn themselves in. It's a small network of very rich people and<br />they can be stopped, but they won't be if everyone is chasing the<br />"illuminati" or the "globalists." They have names -- Rothschild,<br />Schiff, Warburg, Koen, Goldman, Simon, etc. etc. Learn them and use<br />them.</p><p class="mobile-post">Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:<br />you watch, the media is already pinning 9/11 on bush, nothing<br />about mossad, nothing about global government/new world odor.</p><p class="mobile-post">all bush's fault, and no one else's. This is bigger than bush!<br />This is about preserving/protecting America from the<br />globalist bastards who wish to destroy it!</p><p class="mobile-post">In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and<br />brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the<br />timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.<br />- Notebook, 1904</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.fightthenwo.org/</p><p class="mobile-post">----- Original Message ----<br />From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net><br />To: Joe <joestokes@sbcglobal.nnet><br />Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:29:17 PM<br />Subject: [911TruthAction] Loose Change Creators on CNN</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.911podca sts.com/files/ video/Zahn_ LC.wmv</p><p class="mobile-post">Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.</p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo.org<br />Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates<br />starting at 1¢/min.</p><p class="mobile-post">Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo.org</p><p class="mobile-post">Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+<br />countries) for 2¢/min or less. </p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br />Do you Yahoo!?<br /> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.<br /> <br />---------------------------------<br />Do you Yahoo!?<br /> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.<br />Messages in this topic (12)<br />________________________________________________________________________<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">3a. Re: 3m. Re: enuff ,,,,,,,Thermate or Methane/gypsum? DAMMMM<br /> Posted by: "Jacki Rankin Blue" jackirblue@sbcglobal.net jackirblue<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:20 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">My goodness, shooter really seems to enjoy talking to himself. No one needs to debate him, cuz he only wants to be right at all costs. I find his behavior quite annoying and hope the moderator catches up with the group and puts him on moderated status. Peace, MsBlue<br /> <br /> <br /> From a digest 09/13/06: <br /> <br /> <br />3m. Re: enuff ,,,,,,,Thermate or Methane/gypsum? DAMMMM <br /> Posted by: "kucitizenx" prometheuspan@hotmail.com kucitizenx Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:12 pm (PST) --- In truthabout911@ yahoogroups. com, Ben Noyes <banoyes2@.. .> wrote:<br />><br />> Look folks shooter586 is a disruptor, a misdirector and ultimately a <br />traitor<br />> do not bother with the disingenuous , sarcastic prattling of this <br />phony <br />> the mail is cluttered with junk over minor details <br />> there is no need to explain anything to him/her<br />> let him die unanswered .. he is not worth your time <br />>----------- --<br />Somebody obviously needs to kick his mutt little attack dog hiny, so <br />that the mods can feel obliged to get rid of him and so that everybody <br />knows its not about anything other than him being a grade a <br />propagandist.</p><p class="mobile-post">I don't know who the moderator is, but i do agree, please get rid of <br />the barking pest so that we can get on with things.</p><p class="mobile-post"> Back to top <br />Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post <br />Messages in this topic (46) </p><p class="mobile-post">Messages in this topic (2)<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">3b. Re: 3m. Re: enuff ,,,,,,,Thermate or Methane/gypsum? DAMMMM<br /> Posted by: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com scotpeden<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:44 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">Personally, why is he working so hard to get us to chase after something<br />that cant be proven until the evidence is released and that cant happen<br />till we can prove some simple stuff like what happened to WTC 7? Why did all<br />the TV interviews of the Colonel at Norad become National Security within an<br />hour of that interviews.</p><p class="mobile-post">Why are all videos that show what hit the Pentagon all National Security?</p><p class="mobile-post">Why are we allowing people to try to drag us into things that arent prove<br />able until an independent investigation can get hold of what ever is left<br />over, or we get a few of the Murders to sing, for a lesser charge than the<br />firing squad?</p><p class="mobile-post">-----Original Message-----<br />From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com<br />[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jacki Rankin Blue<br />Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:17 PM<br />To: truthabout911@yahoogroups.com; WTP_U; 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com<br />Subject: [911TruthAction] re: 3m. Re: enuff ,,,,,,,Thermate or<br />Methane/gypsum? DAMMMM</p><p class="mobile-post">My goodness, shooter really seems to enjoy talking to himself. No one needs<br />to debate him, cuz he only wants to be right at all costs. I find his<br />behavior quite annoying and hope the moderator catches up with the group and<br />puts him on moderated status. Peace, MsBlue</p><p class="mobile-post">From a digest 09/13/06:</p><p class="mobile-post">3m. Re: enuff ,,,,,,,Thermate or Methane/gypsum? DAMMMM<br /><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/truthabout911/message/3466;_ylc=X3oDMTJyNmIyY<br />2V2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE3NzczMzQyBGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ4OTk2NwRtc2dJZAMzN<br />DY2BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzExNTgyMDMxMzM-></p><p class="mobile-post">Posted by: "kucitizenx" prometheuspan@hotmail.com<br /><http://us.f824.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=prometheuspan@hotmail.com&Subj=<br />%20Re%3A%20enuff%20%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2CThermate%20or%20Methane%2Fgypsum%3F%<br />20DAMMMM> kucitizenx <http://profiles.yahoo.com/kucitizenx></p><p class="mobile-post">Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:12 pm (PST)</p><p class="mobile-post">--- In truthabout911@ yahoogroups. com<br /><http://us.f824.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=truthabout911%40yahoogroups.com<br />> , Ben Noyes <banoyes2@.. .> wrote:<br />><br />> Look folks shooter586 is a disruptor, a misdirector and ultimately a<br />traitor<br />> do not bother with the disingenuous , sarcastic prattling of this<br />phony<br />> the mail is cluttered with junk over minor details<br />> there is no need to explain anything to him/her<br />> let him die unanswered .. he is not worth your time<br />>----------- --<br />Somebody obviously needs to kick his mutt little attack dog hiny, so<br />that the mods can fee! l obliged to get rid of him and so that everybody<br />knows its not about anything other than him being a grade a<br />propagandist.</p><p class="mobile-post">I don't know who the moderator is, but i do agree, please get rid of<br />the barking pest so that we can get on with things.<br />Back to top<br /><http://us.f824.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=6281_90524189_28654856_23<br />86_45932_0_139781_236180_4188905260&Idx=0&YY=97207&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&inc<br />=25&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b&box=Inbox#toc><br />Reply to sender<br /><http://us.f824.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=prometheuspan@hotmail.com&Subj=<br />%20Re%3A%20enuff%20%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2CThermate%20or%20Methane%2Fgypsum%3F%<br />20DAMMMM> | Reply to group<br /><http://us.f824.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=truthabout911@yahoo!%0D%0A%20gr<br />oups.com&Subj=%20Re%3A%20enuff%20%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2CThermate%20or%20Methan<br />e%2Fgypsum%3F%20DAMMMM> | Reply via web post<br /><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/truthabout911/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyMHNoNGhwBF9TA<br />zk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE3NzczMzQyBGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ4OTk2NwRtc2dJZAMzNDY2BHNlY<br />wNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzExNTgyMDMxMzM-?act=reply&messageNum=3466><br />Messages in this topic<br /><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/truthabout911/message/3088;_ylc=X3oDMTM2dDJ0c<br />mp0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE3NzczMzQyBGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ4OTk2NwRtc2dJZAMzN<br />DY2BHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzExNTgyMDMxMzMEdHBjSWQDMzA4OA--> (46)</p><p class="mobile-post">Messages in this topic (2)<br />________________________________________________________________________<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">4. 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FW: High-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens<br /> Posted by: "APFN" apfn@apfn.org klvnetacom<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:30 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">-------- Original Message -------- Subject: <br />FW: High-power microwave devices should be used on American<br />citizens Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:52:59<br />-0400 From: Henry Morgan<br /><henrymorgan@knology.net> <mailto:henrymorgan@knology.net><br />To: # FREEDOM FORWARDS <henrymorgan@knology.net<br /><mailto:henrymorgan@knology.net> For my part,<br />whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the<br />whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it. ~ ~ ~<br />Patrick Henry<br />**************************************** From: APFN<br />[mailto:APFN@apfn.org <mailto:APFN@apfn.org> ]<br />Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:16 PM<br />To: APFN Yahoogroups<br />Subject: High-power microwave devices should be used on American<br />citizens</p><p class="mobile-post">High-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens<br />http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=104525;title=APFN<br /><http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=104525;title=APFN></p><p class="mobile-post">===================</p><p class="mobile-post">Nonlethal Weapons Touted for Use on Americans<br />The contract is expected to be worth at least $20 billion.<br />By LOLITA C. BALDOR, AP</p><p class="mobile-post">Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne said<br />using nonlethal weapons in domestic crowd-control situations<br />would allay concerns about safety.</p><p class="mobile-post"> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wynne><br />Michael W. Wynne is the Secretary of the Air Force, Washington,<br />D.C., USA. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wynne></p><p class="mobile-post">WASHINGTON (Sept. 13) - Nonlethal weapons such as high-power<br />microwave devices should be used on American citizens in<br />crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield,<br />the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.</p><p class="mobile-post">Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions in the<br />international community over any possible safety concerns, said<br />Secretary Michael Wynne.</p><p class="mobile-post">"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens,<br />then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation,"<br />said Wynne. "(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon<br />and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not<br />intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."</p><p class="mobile-post">The Air Force has funded research into nonlethal weapons, but he<br />said the service isn't likely to spend more money on development<br />until injury issues are reviewed by medical experts and resolved.</p><p class="mobile-post">Nonlethal weapons generally can weaken people if they are hit<br />with the beam. Some of the weapons can emit short, intense energy<br />pulses that also can be effective in disabling some electronic<br />devices.</p><p class="mobile-post">On another subject, Wynne said he expects to pick a new<br />contractor for the next generation aerial refueling tanking by<br />next summer. He said a draft request for bids will be put out<br />next month, and there are two qualified bidders: The Boeing Co.<br />and a team of Northrop Grumman Corp. and European Aeronautic<br />Defence and Space Co., the majority owner of European jet maker<br />Airbus SAS.</p><p class="mobile-post">The contract is expected to be worth at least $20 billion.</p><p class="mobile-post">Chicago-based Boeing lost the tanker deal in 2004 amid<br />revelations that it had hired a top Air Force acquisitions<br />official who had given the company preferential treatment.</p><p class="mobile-post">Wynne also said the Air Force, which is already chopping 40,000<br />active duty, civilian and reserves jobs, is now struggling to<br />find new ways to slash about $1.8 billion from its budget to<br />cover costs from the latest round of base closings.</p><p class="mobile-post">He said he can't cut more people, and it would not be wise to<br />take funding from military programs that are needed to protect<br />the country. But, he said he also encounters resistance when he<br />tries to save money on operations and maintenance by retiring<br />aging aircraft.</p><p class="mobile-post">"We're finding out that those are, unfortunately, prized<br />possessions of some congressional districts," said Wynne, adding<br />that the Air Force will have to "take some appetite suppressant<br />pills," he said. He said he has asked employees to look for<br />efficiencies in their offices.</p><p class="mobile-post">The base closings initially were expected to create savings by<br />reducing Air Force infrastructure by 24 percent.</p><p class="mobile-post">09-13-06 06:46 EDT<br />=============</p><p class="mobile-post">Michael W. 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URGENT-Can "CAPTN" MAY BE TRUSTED??-NO!! and WHY!!!<br /> Posted by: "Tim White" phantom469366@yahoo.com phantom469366<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:41 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />> <br />> --- End Time Martyrs USA <mytwaryor4jc@hotmail.com><br />> wrote:<br />> <br />> > From: "End Time Martyrs USA"<br />> > <mytwaryor4jc@hotmail.com><br />> > To: phantom469366@yahoo.com<br />> > Subject: Re: URGENT-Can CAPTN MAY BE TRUSTED?? and<br />> > WHYYY!!!<br />> > Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:05:02 +0000<br />> > <br />> <br />> ---------------------------------<br />> <br />> I believe you...my webmaster was RON GARON,<br />> webmaster<br />> to MRS ALBERTO RIVERA, the ex Jesuit who told THE<br />> TRUTH about Jesuit stuff...I have a healthy FEAR of<br />> these people and I DO stay away!<br />> The Vatican is a MAJOR TOOL of the NWO and of the<br />> coming INQUISITION against TRUE Christians resisting<br />> the NEW WORLD ORDER. A JESUIT ruined one person's<br />> ministry I know, by marrying her and getting her<br />> TOTALLY OCCULTLY CORRUPTED.<br />> <br />> Thanks for the HEADS UP!-Pam<br />> <br />> <br />> <br />> From: Tim White <phantom469366@yahoo.com><br />> To: End Time Martyrs USA <mytwaryor4jc@hotmail.com><br />> Subject: Re: URGENT-Can CAPTN MAY BE TRUSTED?? and<br />> WHYYY!!!<br />> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:49:17 -0700 (PDT)<br />> >STAY AWAY<br />> >FROM MAY<br />> >PLEASE DO<br />> >AS I SAY<br />> >IF YOU DON"T<br />> >YOU"LL PAY<br />> >TO PLAY<br />> >WITH MAY<br />> ><br />> > He is a JESUIT CONTROLLED AGENT PROVACATEUR---I<br />> >have tangled with this piece of shit for almost 3<br />> >years now and Eric Phelps is POSITIVE about this<br />> too<br />> >because what I brought to his attention over a long<br />> >period of time.This arrogant asshole is calling ME<br />> an<br />> >FBI snitch and a paid disinformer and you know<br />> that's<br />> >not true.I have saved LOTS of emails between he and<br />> I<br />> >and I was also a member of Ghost Troop by HIS<br />> >invitation.I stuck all the JESUIT info from Eric<br />> >Phelps in front of his face from the beginning and<br />> he<br />> >wouldn't touch it with a 100' pole.IF he was what<br />> he<br />> >said he is and IF he REALLY wanted to get the<br />> complete<br />> >truth then WHY did he not look into the JESUITS and<br />> >WHY is he calling ME an agent when HE is CONTROLLED<br />> by<br />> >the JESUITS?You want more on this?Well,I got plenty<br />> on<br />> >this scumbag.STAY AWAY from the whole thing-it IS a<br />> >set up,Pam.<br />> ><br />> >Tim<br />> ><br />> ><br />> ><br />> ><br />> ><br />> ><br />> >--- End Time Martyrs USA <mytwaryor4jc@hotmail.com><br />> >wrote:<br />> ><br />> ><br />> >---------------------------------<br />> >I am now getting all these emails from Capt MAY and<br />> >his ghost troop buddies..they are interested in my<br />> >reports...IS HE AN INFILTRATOR as I have heard???<br />> Is<br />> >this a set up to infiltrate and FIND MY<br />> SOURCES???-Pam<br />> ><br />> ><br />> ><br />> >IS THIS THE YEAR OF MARTIAL LAW???<br />> ><br />> >In 2001, while investigating the NWO AGENDA for the<br />> >USA, I met with a US Army military source in<br />> Germany.<br />> >He looked through my book PREMONITIONS OF AN<br />> AMERICAN<br />> >HOLOCAUST, said in a low voice, "EVERYTHING you are<br />> >saying in this book IS TRUE...and for the US<br />> >military, the YEAR 2007 IS A MAJOR DATE for MUCH of<br />> >what you report on TO BE IN PLACE IN AMERICA..."<br />> ><br />> >-WHAT NWO-STAGED TERROR IS SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN IN<br />> >AMERICA IN 2006 TO BRING US UNDER NWO CONTROL BY<br />> >2007???-<br />> ><br />> >...THINK ABOUT IT!!!!<br />> > </p><p class="mobile-post">__________________________________________________<br />Do You Yahoo!?<br />Tired of spam? 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Fw: [L&J] Fw: Who murdered 24 Canadians on 911?<br /> Posted by: "Pay_the_Piper" pay_the_piper@shaw.ca <br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:44 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">----- Original Message ----- <br />From: Pay_the_Piper <br />To: LIBERTY-AND-JUSTICE@yahoogroups.com <br />Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:50 PM<br />Subject: [L&J] Fw: Who murdered 24 Canadians on 911?</p><p class="mobile-post">----- Original Message ----- <br />From: Pay_the_Piper <br />To: pm@pm.gc.ca <br />Cc: customerexperiencecenter@us.ul.com ; sunday@cbc.ca ; MIT-Opencourseware-Discussion@yahoogroups.com ; frank.gayle@nist.gov <br />Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:48 PM<br />Subject: Who murdered 24 Canadians on 911?</p><p class="mobile-post">Gosh, there it is. The $64,000 question. What is YOUR answer, Mr. Prime Minister? Does it make no difference if anyone ever obtains a REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE of steel members from the deep rubble to prove that there were or were not INSIDER TERRORISTS responsible in the murder of 24 Canadians? Is it alright with you if an ISP seizes this email covertly as has happened to so many others in the past few days and sends it on to the terrorists?</p><p class="mobile-post">Tonto from Toronto</p><p class="mobile-post"> ----- Original Message ----- <br /> From: Diabolico Sapiens <br /> To: frank.gayle@nist.gov <br /> Cc: customerexperiencecenter@us.ul.com ; sunday@cbc.ca ; MIT-Opencourseware-Discussion@yahoogroups.com <br /> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:27 PM<br /> Subject: Re: [MIT-OpenCourseWare-Discussion] Paula Zahn/CNN examines The Big Lie</p><p class="mobile-post"> All it takes is one steel beam cut by thermite/thermate which expectedly would leave a unique signature and it's all over for the INSIDER TERRORISTS.</p><p class="mobile-post"> Can NIST show us a representative sample of steel members from the rubble?</p><p class="mobile-post"> DS</p><p class="mobile-post"> Pay_the_Piper <pay_the_piper@shaw.ca> wrote: </p><p class="mobile-post"> By all means and especially let us have the technical reports which examine the breaking points of those steel members. It is really straight-forward and inexpensive. If thermite/thermate were used as now-suspended Professor Jones at BYU says, that will show in the tests.</p><p class="mobile-post"> NIST et al will then be happy to have put the public mind at ease so easily!<br /> PtP<br /> ----- Original Message ----- <br /> From: Diabolico Sapiens <br /> To: MIT-OpenCourseWare-Discussion@yahoogroups.com <br /> Cc: PSYCHOROBOTICS@yahoogroups.com ; customerexperiencecenter@us.ul.com ; frank.gayle@nist.gov ; sunday@cbc.ca <br /> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:30 PM<br /> Subject: [MIT-OpenCourseWare-Discussion] Paula Zahn/CNN examines The B! ig Lie</p><p class="mobile-post"> Just one question, Paula:</p><p class="mobile-post"> What does a multi-disciplinary team of MIT experts say after thorough examination of the ruins at WTC 7?</p><p class="mobile-post"> DS</p><p class="mobile-post"> Pay_the_Piper <pay_the_piper@shaw.ca> wrote: </p><p class="mobile-post"> ----- Original Message ----- <br /> From: Diabolico Sapiens <br /> To: MIT-OpenCourseWare-Discussion@yahoogroups.com <br /> Cc: PSYCHOROBOTICS@yahoogroups.com ; customerexperiencecenter@us.ul.com ; frank.gayle@nist.gov ; sunday@cbc.ca <br /> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:27 AM<br /> Subject: [MIT-OpenCourseWare-Discussion] MIT Demolition Engineering to "pull" 911 Commission's BIG LIE</p><p class="mobile-post"> Sunday CBC interviewed Lee Hamilton, 911 Commission Co-Chair who said "We looked very carefully at explosives" and their involvement in 911.</p><p class="mobile-post"> THIS IS A BOLD LIE AND A DESECRATION OF THE MEMORY OF 3,000 VICTIMS</p><p class="mobile-post"> WTC 7 was not even included in the 911 Commission Report. How could it have fallen, having had no plane impact and only a spill-over of jet fuel? How could it have fallen so fast and so totally and so neatly ... into its own footprint? A huge building larger in area than WTC 1 and WTC 2 and about half their height. Surely this "method" of "pulling" a building revolutionizes demolition engineering!</p><p class="mobile-post"> Otherwise, just give us one thorough examination of the deep ruins including alleged molten metals (now cooled) under WTC 7. Take a reliable, multi-disciplinary team in, led by MIT and use the procedure and findings to teach Demolition Engineering 100. The cost would be only a few million dollars and the course could be taught initially with tuition fees to defray those costs so that future DE 100 OCW SW could be given to worldwide students free of charge.</p><p class="mobile-post"> The onus of proof is not on those who ask good, honest questions like this. It is on governmental authorities whose duty it is to reassure the public with the answers.</p><p class="mobile-post"> DS</p><p class="mobile-post"> Diabolico Sapiens <diabolico_sapiens@yahoo.ca> wrote: <br /> Let's use DE 100 at MIT as an example! What questions would you ask to be SURE that both Pentagon and WTC were not struck by planted explosives, some of which detonated BEFORE planes hit according to </p><p class="mobile-post"> Barbara Honegger, M.S. a military journalist on staff since 1995 at the Naval Postgraduate School. NPS is the Navy's advanced science and technology university ... sort of a USM MIT.</p><p class="mobile-post"> Using her skills as a specialist in military journalism she gives eyewitness and earwitness evidence that in BOTH cases, explosives were detonated BEFORE the planes hit (and then there were the explosions witnessed afterward). Clocks on the Pentagon wall stopped when explosions occurred and are a physical, hard evidence part of the witnessing.</p><p class="mobile-post"> If jet fuel alone caused all three WTC buildings to collapse so perfectly into their own footprints, should DE 100 not consider teaching this as the method of choice for future civilian demolitions? It is cheap and easy and EXTREMELY powerful so it could be used to "pull" any building on this planet.</p><p class="mobile-post"> DS</p><p class="mobile-post"> Pay_the_Piper <pay_the_piper@shaw.ca> wrote: <br /> Yes it is obsolete and we only have to understand the concept of AUTOMATION <br /> in application to teaching to understand why. Suppose I can walk through the <br /> buildings of MIT and DEMAND an answer to any question of higher education <br /> from any professor. I don't have to worry about manners and being polite. <br /> The rules of questioning are that the onus is on the professor to answer and <br /> any failure to give a correct answer will lead to an "upgrading" of the <br /> professor by MIT administration.</p><p class="mobile-post"> There are limited relevant and material questions to any subject of higher <br /> education. We can make an exhaustive list for all the questions in ABC 100 <br /> at MIT. And all the natural language variations on those questions. With <br /> ever more powerful super-computers, giant look-up tables will be able to <br /> DISPENSE those answers by machine like meals in a New York City "Automat".</p><p class="mobile-post"> As an example, we could replace all the books and teachers needed to teach <br /> .NET programming by IBM SW. Bill Gates will be crying in his beer but hey, <br /> progress is progress.</p><p class="mobile-post"> MIT's new slogan? "The student is always right".</p><p class="mobile-post"> The student is then cast into a new role. The student is a questioner. The <br /> teacher is an answerer. In this relationship the better student is the one <br /> who can ask the right questions. What ARE the right questions?</p><p class="mobile-post"> Can MIT offer a degree in "Questioning"? Quests 100, Quests 200 and so on <br /> ....</p><p class="mobile-post"> PtP</p><p class="mobile-post"> ----- Original Message ----- <br /> From: "J ! Flenner" <br /> To: "Book People Mailing List" <br /> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:57 AM<br /> Subject: [BP] InsideHigherEd: [LONG] The 20th Century University Is Obsolete</p><p class="mobile-post"> > []<br /> ><br /> > http://insidehighered.com/views/2006/09/05/minogue<br /> ><br /> > Sept. 5, 2006 | Inside Higher Ed<br /> ><br /> > The 20th Century University Is Obsolete<br /> ><br /> > By Rev. John P. Minogue<br /> > info@insidehighered.com<br /> ><br /> > Higher education, like the human species itself, is the product of <br /> > evolutionary forces that produce structures -- the DNA if you will -- <br /> > that enable one variant to thrive and cause another to falter.<br /> ><br /> > The life form known as higher education was hatched in a monastic cocoon <br /> > in the 10th century. From this beginning, higher education institutions <br /> > took shape as an evolving species, changing form and mission in response <br /> > to external forces. Familiar milestones on this evolutionary journey <br /> > include secularization, development of academic disciplines, evolution of <br /> > administrative structures, growth of the research university, and the <br /> > concepts of academic freedom and tenure.<br /> > .<br /> > .<br /> > .<br /> ><br /> > So what will be demanded of 20th century universities to survive when <br /> > market supply reaches or exceeds demand? As in every market, those <br /> > producers that have driven efficiency into their production system and <br /> > responsiveness into their market positioning have at least a change at <br /> > surviving. But the challenge is daunting because the 20th century <br /> > university is trying to play serious catch up in new markets -- adults, <br /> > women, diversities, the under privileged -- while using the same <br /> > mentalities that allowed them to attract the 18 to 25 year old male.<br /> ><br /> > As with IBM, which played in the personal computer market, but really <br /> > lived in the mainframe business market, there is no fire in the belly of <br /> > 20th century universities for these new markets. These institutions have <br /> > not changed the way they go about their business to serve these new <br /> > markets; and if there has been some change, it has been accompanied by the <br /> > widespread grumbling of the faculty: Why do we have to teach at night? Why <br /> > do we have to teach at multiple campuses? Why do we have to provide <br /> > support services in the evening? Why do we have to teach students who <br /> > aren't educated the way we were? Why do we have to schedule classes so <br /> > students can maximize their employment opportunities?<br /> ><br /> > Meanwhile, 20th century universities are running average price increases <br /> > twice the inflation rate and carrying multiple overheads of unproven value <br /> > to the buying market. Walk into the library of any university today that <br /> > has ubiquitous connections to the Internet, and you will find the stacks <br /> > empty of both faculty and students. Is the traditional library a value add <br /> > or a costly overhead? As with IBM, 20th century universities believe their <br /> > brand will sustain price increases. "No frill, just degree" competitors <br /> > are producing product without the high cost of minimalist full-time <br /> > faculty workloads, large libraries and multiple staff intensive manual <br /> > processes. As with the personal computer, will the buying market <br /> > ultimately see any difference between the products except the name on the <br /> > plastic and the price on the sticker?<br /> ><br /> > What will be the destiny of the current life form we have called the 20th <br /> > century university? It consumes far too many resources for what it returns <br /> > to the environment, and though there are vast resources (markets) <br /> > available, its structures do not let it tap these resources effectively. <br /> > Its evolutionary tardiness has provided opportunity for a new species to <br /> > take hold -- the profit driven university. As the evolution of the human <br /> > race has picked up the pace with each passing millennium, a future life <br /> > form that has little resemblance to current higher education life forms <br /> > will emerge much sooner than the usual eons it takes for evolution to <br /> > create the next iteration of life.<br /> ><br /> > The 20th century university is indeed obsolete and faces extinction.<br /> ><br /> > Rev. John P. Minogue is senior lecturer at the Center for Higher Education <br /> > and Organizational Change at Benedictine University and was president of <br /> > DePaul University from 1993 to 2004.<br /> ><br /> > COMMENTS (5 as of 9:50 AM ET, 9/5/06)<br /> ><br /> > (snip)<br /> > .<br /> > .<br /> > .<br /> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> > This message was sent via the Bo! ok People mailing list.<br /> > Posting address: bookpeople@pobox.upenn.edu<br /> > Admin. & unsubscribe address: bookpeople-request@pobox.upenn.edu<br /> > Charter & archive: http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/bplist/ </p><p class="mobile-post"> Yahoo! Groups Links</p><p class="mobile-post">--------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! 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Re: Fw: Some '9/11 Truth' Errors De-Bunked<br /> Posted by: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com flanker12k<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:48 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">if building 7 fell by the earthquake resonance crap then why didn't buildings far closer to the towers collapse as well?<br /> WTC 7 was a freaking block away! there were other buildings way closer!<br /> <br />then explain to me how the fuck do you get pools of molten steel found WEEKS after the attack 60 feet below ground???!?!?!?!?!?!? <br /> <br />WHAT BOUT THE 5 dancing israelis video taping the first plane and celebrating about it???????? <br /> <br />I think the cops even found bomb residue in their white van.<br /> <br />In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.<br />- Notebook, 1904</p><p class="mobile-post">http://www.fightthenwo.org/ </p><p class="mobile-post">----- Original Message ----<br />From: Pay_the_Piper <pay_the_piper@shaw.ca><br />To: 911truthaction@yahoogroups.com<br />Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:07:11 PM<br />Subject: [911TruthAction] Fw: Some '9/11 Truth' Errors De-Bunked</p><p class="mobile-post">----- Original Message ----- <br />From: <CERJ@igc.org><br />To: <CERJ@igc.org><br />Cc: "Wendy Newhall" <WNewhall@heritage- dg.com>; "Peter Wilmerding" <br /><thundercannon19@ yahoo.com><br />Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:12 PM<br />Subject: Some '9/11 Truth' Errors De-Bunked</p><p class="mobile-post">> I'm in full agreement with these analyses, and as I have said to numerous <br />> CERJers over the years, what has happened since 9/11/01 is far more <br />> important than the precipitating event itself. Consciously or <br />> subconsciously, the USA and a few other countries have been led into a <br />> knee-jerk violent reaction that might be worthy of the dead Neanderthal <br />> subspecies, but not of modern humankind. We are still learning the <br />> ultimate evolutionary survival value of peacemaking. In the meantime, <br />> those recalcitrants who either don't know better or who want to make <br />> millions on the grief, anguish, fear and suffering of the world went to <br />> work on their day jobs and cooked up a few unnecessary and exacerbating <br />> wars and covert actions, ones which have very nearly destroyed the USA at <br />> this point. Stupidity and short-sightedness are part of what Hannah <br />> Arendt called 'the banality of evil', pointing out that what made Hitler <br />> and Eichmann possible was not any claim to genius or creativity that they!<br />> might<br />> have had, but rather the fact that they were pretty ordinary people.<br />><br />> This is simply further evidence that the calling into peacemaking is still <br />> pretty unusual -- I mean, how many mainstream US politicians would have <br />> refrained from spinning 9/11 into the occasion for a couple of <br />> revenge-oriented wars? Not many, I think.<br />><br />> -- John Wilmerding<br />><br />> <...><br />><br />> http://www.counterp unch.org<br />><br />> In the September 1-15 issue of Counterpunch' s print newsletter, Alexander <br />> Cockburn writes, in part about longtime CERJer and physicist Manuel <br />> Garcia, Jr.:<br />><br />> <...><br />><br />> A Theory of the WTC Collapses<br />> by Alexander Cockburn<br />><br />> As those CounterPunchers who read our web site may have seen, we ran a <br />> piece of mine the weekend of September 9/10 attacking the conspiracy crowd <br />> claiming the 9/11/2001 attacks were an inside job, ordered by Bush and <br />> Cheney. We don't believe this, and have always declined to make our <br />> newsletter or web site a platform for those who do.<br />><br />> As CounterPuncher Michael Neumann remarked in a note to me after he'd read <br />> my piece: I think the problem of conspiracy nuttery has got worse, and is <br />> part of a general trend. There really were serious questions about the <br />> Kennedy assassination, an unusual number of them, and it wasn't too crazy <br />> to come to the wrong conclusion. There wasn't a single serious question <br />> about 9-11. But this is the age of angels, creationism, corpses all over <br />> Kosovo, Arabs suspiciously speaking Arabic, Satanic child abuse, nucular <br />> Eyraquees, and channeling. The main engine of the 9-11 conspiracy cult is <br />> nothing political; it's the death of any conception of evidence.<br />><br />> This probably comes from the decline of Western power. Deep down, almost <br />> everyone, across the political spectrum, is locked in a bigotry which can <br />> only attribute that decline to some irrational or supernatural power. The <br />> result is the ascendency of magic over common sense, let alone reason."<br />><br />> I'll quickly resume my basic points, before moving to a very interesting <br />> piece by a physicist (and CounterPuncher) -- Manuel Garcia, Jr. -- who <br />> offers a theory for the fall of the Towers, which conspiracy advocates <br />> attribute to pre-positioned explosives.<br />><br />> One characteristic of the nuts is that they have a devout, albeit <br />> preposterous belief in American efficiency, thus many of them start with <br />> the racist premise that "Arabs in caves" weren't capable of the mission. <br />> They believe that military systems work the way Pentagon flacks say they <br />> should work.<br />><br />> They appear to have read no military history, which is too bad because if <br />> they did they'd know that minutely planned operations -- let alone <br />> responses to an unprecedented emergency -- screw up with monotonous <br />> regularity, by reason of stupidity, cowardice, venality, weather, and all <br />> the other whims of providence.<br />><br />> The 9/11 nuts proffer what they demurely call "disturbing questions", <br />> though they disdain all answers but their own. They seize on <br />> coincidences, and force them into sequences they deem to be logical and <br />> significant. Apparent anomalies that seem to nourish their theories are <br />> brandished excitedly; testimony that undermines their theories -- like <br />> witnesses of a large plane hitting the Pentagon -- is contemptuously <br />> brushed aside.<br />><br />> Of course it's very probable that the FBI or U.S. military intelligence, <br />> even the CIA, had penetrated the Al Qaeda team planning the 9/11 attacks; <br />> that intelligence reports -- some are already known -- piled up in various <br />> Washington bureaucracies pointing to the impending onslaught and even the <br />> manner in which it might be carried out.<br />><br />> The history of intelligence operations is profuse with examples of <br />> successful intelligence collection, but also of fatal slowness to act on <br />> that intelligence, along with eagerness not to compromise the security and <br />> future usefulness of the informant, who has to buttress credentials by <br />> even pressing for prompt action by the plotters. Sometime an undercover <br />> agent will actually propose an action, either to deflect efforts away from <br />> some graver threat, or to put the plotters in a position where they can be <br />> caught red-handed. In their penetrations of environmental groups the FBI <br />> certainly did this.<br />><br />> One notorious "deductive" leap involves flight 77, which on 9/11 ended up <br />> crashing into the Pentagon. There are photos of the impact of the <br />> "object" -- i.e., the Boeing 757, flight 77 -- that seem to show the sort <br />> of hole a missile might make. Ergo, the nuts assert, it WAS a missile and <br />> a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon.<br />><br />> As regards the hole, my brother Andrew -- writing a book about Rumsfeld <br />> and the DOD during his tenure -- has seen photos taken within 30 minutes <br />> of the Pentagon impact, clearly showing outline of an entire plane, <br />> including the wings. This was visible momentarily when the smoke blew <br />> away.<br />><br />> And if it was a missile, what happened to the 757? Did the conspirators <br />> shoot it down somewhere else, or force it down and then kill the <br />> passengers? Why plan to demolish the towers with pre-placed explosives if <br />> your conspiracy includes control of the two planes that hit them? Why <br />> bother with the planes at all? Why blame Osama if your fall guy is Saddam <br />> Hussein?<br />><br />> The nuts ignore obvious crimes and blunders. They scorn the notion that <br />> the WTC towers crashed down because they were badly built as a consequence <br />> of corruption, incompetence, regulatory evasions by the Port Authority, <br />> and because they were struck by huge planes loaded with jet fuel. No, <br />> they fell because Dick Cheney's agents methodically planted demolition <br />> charges in the preceding days. It was a conspiracy of thousands, all of <br />> whom -- party to mass murder -- have held their tongues ever since.<br />><br />> The towers did not suddenly collapse, as if triggered by a demolition <br />> fuse. As discussed in Wayne Barrett's and Dan Collins' excellent book, <br />> 'Grand Illusion', about Rudy Giuliani and 9/11, helicopter pilots radioed <br />> warnings nine minutes before the final collapse that the South Tower might <br />> well go down and, repeatedly, as much as 25 minutes before the North <br />> Tower's fall. A structural engineer in the North Towers similarly advised <br />> police he thought the structure might well be fatally compromised and <br />> would soon drop.<br />><br />> What Barrett and Collins brilliantly show are the actual corrupt <br />> conspiracies on Giuliani's watch: the favoritism to Motorola which saddled <br />> the firemen with radios that didn't work; the ability of the Port <br />> Authority to skimp on fire protection, the mayor's catastrophic failure in <br />> the years before 9/11/2001 to organize an effective unified emergency <br />> command that would have meant that cops and firemen could have <br />> communicated; that many firemen wouldn't have unnecessarily entered the <br />> Towers; that people in the Towers wouldn't have been told by 911 emergency <br />> operators to stay in place; and that firemen could have heard the <br />> helicopter warnings and the final Mayday messages that prompted most of <br />> the NYPD men to flee the Towers.<br />><br />> That's the real political world, in which Giuliani and others have never <br />> been held accountable. The nuts disdain the real world, because -- like <br />> much of the left and liberal sectors -- they have promoted Bush, Cheney <br />> and the neocons to an elevated status as the Arch Demons of American <br />> history, instead of being just one more team running the American empire, <br />> a team of more than usual stupidity and incompetence (characteristics I <br />> personally favor in imperial leaders).<br />><br />> The conspiracy nuts have combined to produce a huge distraction.<br />><br />> <...><br />><br />> Now for Manuel Garcia, Jr. Manuel wrote an interesting piece for our site <br />> last year on the collapse of the levees in New Orleans after hurricane <br />> Katrina. He's a native New Yorker who works as a physicist at the <br />> Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, with a Ph.D. -- in <br />> Aerospace & Mechanical Engineering -- from Princeton University. His <br />> technical interests are generally in fluid flow and energy, specifically <br />> in gas dynamics and plasma physics; and his working experience includes <br />> measurements on nuclear bomb tests, devising mathematical models of <br />> energetic physical effects, and trying to enlarge a union of weapons <br />> scientists. Today, he believes an immediate shift to green energy <br />> technologies should be the highest political and technical priority, to <br />> both quench the global class war and to quickly achieve the UN's <br />> Millennium Development Goals. Like his father, Manuel too is an amateur <br />> poet.<br />><br />> Here's his take, as outlined in his letter to me:<br />><br />> <...><br />><br />> Manuel Garcia, Jr. <garcia22@mail. llnl.gov> wrote:<br />><br />> Your piece, The 9-11 Conspiracy Nuts, was right on target, to my way of <br />> thinking. It is so easy to spin conspiracies when you ignore Occam's <br />> Razor and pile on assumptions to preserve an underlying bias, despite <br />> facts and historical experience.<br />><br />> As you note, anyone who has read any military history will know how easily <br />> it is for plans to be scrambled by human failings, the unexpected forces <br />> of nature and what can only be called the caprices of fate. Robust plans <br />> are really very simple, and they rely on individuals who are well trained <br />> to be able to apply that training, and the resources at their disposal, as <br />> the opportunities of the moment allow, in order to advance a tactical <br />> objective.<br />><br />> One item I have thought about is the contention that the WTC buildings <br />> collapsed at terminal velocity (free fall), and that this must indicate <br />> the use of pre-placed explosives, as in building demolitions. The <br />> assumption in this claim is that the collapse 'should have' been slower if <br />> the frame below the descending collapse front was intact and thus <br />> 'resisting'.<br />><br />> I have not done any engineering calculations on this, however, I can see <br />> how the buildings could collapse as observed, without invoking a <br />> conspiracy of sabotage ... even for WTC 7, the shorter building that did <br />> not suffer an airplane strike.<br />><br />> I think it possible for shock waves to have run up and down the buildings, <br />> bouncing between the collapse front and the foundation, and these shock <br />> waves could have weakened -- possibly at points broken -- the bolts and <br />> rivets holding the joints of the framework.<br />><br />> This is not an esoteric idea, it would occur in auto crashes (tests and <br />> accidents), and can probably be observed in computer simulations. Modern <br />> autos are designed to have crushable ends, to absorb the energy of impact <br />> preferentially, thus sparing the passenger compartment. It is unlikely <br />> that any such consideration went into the design of the metalwork of the <br />> World Trade Center buildings. Their frames were probably of a uniform <br />> rigidity, and a sharp impact anywhere would necessarily send out stress or <br />> shock waves, as the transient response of the structure seeking to <br />> equilibrate to the force of a new loading.<br />><br />> This is like striking a bell. It 'rings'at a frequency characteristic of <br />> its rigidity and shape, and it eventually spreads the stress of the new <br />> load throughout itself, as an additional stress if it is a constant load <br />> (like a new weight), or an added amount of heat -- what the bouncing <br />> vibrations devolve to -- if the load was a transient blow. So, it might <br />> be that the WTC buildings 'shattered' -- perhaps not perfectly like a <br />> bullet through a glass pane (imagine seeing one of Egerton's high speed <br />> film clips) but more like the shattering of the safety glass of an <br />> automobile windshield (with plastic sheeting bonded between layers of <br />> glass).<br />><br />> The collapse of the heat-weakened frame (blast and heat from airplane fuel <br />> tank explosions and fires, fed by plastic furnishings in the offices) at <br />> the impact zone would be the onset of an impulsive load on the lower <br />> structure, as the descending mass of the top floors collapsed the impact <br />> zone. The sudden imposition of the momentum of the top floors -- our <br />> hammer -- onto the structure below the impact zone was too sudden for the <br />> structure to resist by a uniform increase in the stress throughout the <br />> body of the metal framework, impact zone-to-bottom. So, the entire force <br />> of resistance would be carried by a short length of structure (perhaps <br />> only a few floors, even one) immediately below the impact zone, and this <br />> might have fatally ruptured local joints -- our shattering effect. This <br />> local stress concentration would race along the structure, moving the high <br />> stress condition to fresh material.<br />><br />> Thus, each section of the lower structure would experience a brief time of <br />> extremely high stress as the wave passed through it. On reaching the <br />> foundation, it would shake the ground -- basically, an earthquake -- and <br />> part of the energy would also reflect back up the structure. In this way, <br />> the shrinking length of the lower structure would be experiencing a likely <br />> increase in both the average level of stress, as well as more frequent <br />> passage of shock waves across any given floor. The final impact of the <br />> collapsed mass into the foundation would send the energy radially outward <br />> through the ground as an earthquake (the deflection of the ground in <br />> resistance to the momentum of the fall).<br />><br />> I think WTC7 could have collapsed as a result of weakening by fires, <br />> caused by falling burning debris, and the earthquakes from the collapse of <br />> the tall towers. I am sure these effects can be calculated, probably by <br />> engineers and scientists who study the mechanics and dynamics of complex <br />> structures under earthquake loading.<br />><br />> To offer this hypothesis as a "proof" would require such calculations, <br />> which could be verified by others. I am not able to produce that level of <br />> verification, so I leave this as a suggestion, within the spirit of <br />> Occam's Razor, of seeking explanations for the WTC building collapses that <br />> require the fewest number of ad hoc assumptions (e.g., no conspiracies) .<br />><br />> The essential point here is that buildings, bridges and other extended <br />> structures can be seen as antennas that pick up and transmit mechanical <br />> vibrations. A famous example is the collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge <br />> in 1937, by the action of wind vortexes shed at the resonance frequency of <br />> the bridge (you can find the film clip on the internet). Like any bell, <br />> each structure has its natural frequency, and if a force strikes it in <br />> harmony with that frequency (synchronously, or at the resonance frequency) <br />> then the transmission of energy from the load to the structure is very <br />> efficient (mathematically, it is perfect at resonance).<br />><br />> During the sequence of forcings that occurred during the collapse of the <br />> three WTC buildings, there may have been some nearly resonant transfers of <br />> mechanical energy, and these may have created 'explosive' levels of stress <br />> at enough joints to shatter the framework sufficiently that the collapses <br />> we observed were of already-broken buildings.<br />><br />> Your larger point is most important. Conspiracy ravings and other <br />> distractions into irrationality and fantasy sap energy and focus that <br />> could be used to better effect, both personal and social. There really <br />> are some conspiracies out there, but the worst ones are all too easily <br />> seen -- power does not depend on subtlety.<br />><br />> Conspiracy ravings and other distractions into irrationality sap energy.<br />><br />> ============ ========= ========= ========= ==<br />> COLLEGIUM IUSTITIÆ ÆQUITATEM RESTITUENTI<br />> ++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ ++<br />> John Woolman College of Equity-Restorative Justice<br />> Peacemaking and Conflict Transformation [CERJ]<br />> c/o John Wilmerding <wilmerding@earthlin k.net><br />> 217 High Street, Brattleboro, VT, USA 05301<br />> Phone: (01)-802-254- 2826 Email to: CERJ@igc.org<br />> ++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ ++<br />> "... where Quakers and revolutionaries join for life ..."<br />> -- Laura Nyro, from 'New York Tendaberry', 1969<br />> ++++++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ +++++++++ ++<br />> To join (or leave) the College's email list, send<br />> an email message to wilmerding@earthlin k.net<br />> or to CERJ@igc.org, including your first & last name,<br />> your email address, and your state, province or<br />> country of residence. 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The Five Dancing Jews<br /> Posted by: "Pay_the_Piper" pay_the_piper@shaw.ca <br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:58 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">They were practicing for "Fiddler on the Roof: The Seqel"</p><p class="mobile-post">PtP<br /> ----- Original Message ----- <br /> From: Naveed <br /> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com <br /> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:42 PM<br /> Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Fw: Some '9/11 Truth' Errors De-Bunked</p><p class="mobile-post"> WHAT BOUT THE 5 dancing israelis video taping the first plane and celebrating about it???????? <br />Messages in this topic (1)<br />________________________________________________________________________<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">10. Re: THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE<br /> Posted by: "Kevin Lee Hammond" exposethenewworldorder@yahoo.com exposethenewworldorder<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:07 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">This is very, very interesting Mr White. Thank you very much. It is appreciated.<br /> <br /> Kevin</p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br />Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.<br />Messages in this topic (2)<br />________________________________________________________________________<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">11. [Bush_Be_Gone] The unfinished story of Lucky Larry.<br /> Posted by: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com scotpeden<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:21 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">Thanks Linda,</p><p class="mobile-post">Good food for thought, though we still have to prove the inside job without<br />the help of the media or the Justice Department, or any of the US government<br />that is in terror of those who did the terrorist acts, as obviously, killing<br />people doesnt bother them if BIG money is involved.</p><p class="mobile-post">-----Original Message-----<br />From: Bush_Be_Gone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bush_Be_Gone@yahoogroups.com]On<br />Behalf Of Linda G. Richard<br /> Subject: [Bush_Be_Gone] The unfinished story of Lucky Larry.</p><p class="mobile-post">You've got to be lucky to make $4 Billion killing on a 6-month investment of<br />$124 Million</p><p class="mobile-post">Larry Silverstein is the New York property tycoon who purchased the entire<br />WTC complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That was the first time<br />in its 33-year history the complex had EVER changed ownership.</p><p class="mobile-post">Mr. Silverstein's first order of business as the new owner was to change the<br />company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security<br />company he hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush's brother,<br />Marvin Bush, was on its board of directors, and Marvin's cousin, Wirt Walker<br />III, was its CEO. According to public records, not only did Securacom<br />provide electronic security for the World Trade Center, it also covered<br />Dulles International Airport and United Airlines two key players in the<br />9/11 attacks.</p><p class="mobile-post">The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp.,<br />also linked for many years to the Bush family. KuwAm has been linked to the<br />Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a<br />member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on<br />the board of Stratesec.</p><p class="mobile-post">Now, consider: The members of a small cabal owned the WTC complex,<br />controlled its electronic security, and also controlled the security not<br />only for one of the airlines whose aircraft were hijacked on 9/11, but the<br />airport from which they originated.</p><p class="mobile-post">Another little "coincidence" -- Mr. Silversten, who made a down-payment of<br />$124 million on this $3.2 billion complex, promptly insured it for $7<br />Billion. Not only that, he covered the complex against "terrorist attacks".</p><p class="mobile-post">Following the attacks, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the<br />maximum amount of the policy ($7B), based on the two -- in Silverstein's<br />view -- separate attacks. The insurance company, Swiss Re, paid Mr.<br />Silverstein $4.6 Billion a princely return on a relatively paltry<br />investment of $124 million.</p><p class="mobile-post">There's more. You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate plum<br />we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center --<br />subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority -- has never<br />functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the<br />rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have<br />been ignorant of this?</p><p class="mobile-post">The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, most<br />of which related to removal and replacement of building materials declared<br />to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It was<br />well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell.<br />For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur,<br />attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for<br />liability reasons, but being turned down due the known asbestos problem.<br />Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing<br />until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers<br />floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from<br />demolishing the buildings.</p><p class="mobile-post">The projected cost to disassemble the towers: $15 Billion. Just the<br />scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!</p><p class="mobile-post">In other words, the Twin Towers were condemned structures. How convenient<br />that an unexpected "terrorist" attack demolished the buildings completely.</p><p class="mobile-post">WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same<br />insurance policy. This 47-storey steel-framed structure, which was NOT<br />struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day<br />into its own footprint at freefall speed exactly in the manner of the Twin<br />Towers.</p><p class="mobile-post">How could this have happened? Mr. Silverstein gave the world the answer when<br />he slipped up during a PBS television interview a year later, on 9/11/2002:</p><p class="mobile-post">"I remember getting a call from the...er...fire department commander,<br />telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the<br />fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest<br />thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched<br />the building collapse."</p><p class="mobile-post">As anyone who knows anything about construction can tell you, "Pull" is<br />common industry jargon for a controlled demolition.</p><p class="mobile-post">One thing is for sure, the decision to 'pull' WTC 7 would have delighted<br />many people. Especially because it has been reported that thousands of<br />sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history <br />including Enron and WorldCom -- were stored in the offices of some of the<br />building's tenants:</p><p class="mobile-post">US Secret Service<br />NSA<br />CIA<br />IRS<br />BATF<br />SEC<br />NAIC Securities<br />Salomon Smith Barney<br />American Express Bank International<br />Standard Chartered Bank<br />Provident Financial Management<br />ITT Hartford Insurance Group<br />Federal Home Loan Bank</p><p class="mobile-post">The Securities and Exchange Commission has not quantified the number of<br />active cases in which substantial files were destroyed by the collapse of<br />WTC 7. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports<br />estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry<br />into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial<br />public offerings during the high-tech boom. ..."Ongoing investigations at<br />the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work<br />is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz Berger<br />& Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."</p><p class="mobile-post">Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about<br />WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade<br />Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center. The bank says that<br />back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000<br />were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack.</p><p class="mobile-post">Inside WTC 7 was the US Secret Service's largest field office with more than<br />200 employees. "All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our<br />cases, went down with the building," according to US Secret Service Special<br />Agent David Curran.</p><p class="mobile-post">What a neat, complete, and fortuitous turn of events was 9/11.</p><p class="mobile-post">Incidentally, it's worth noting that one of Lucky Larry's closest friends <br />a person with whom it's said he speaks almost daily by phone is none other<br />than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.</p><p class="mobile-post">Messages in this topic (1)<br />________________________________________________________________________<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">12. Fwd: [ParanoidTimes] Alex Jones' Ground Zero Report and 9/11 news<br /> Posted by: "Kevin Lee Hammond" exposethenewworldorder@yahoo.com exposethenewworldorder<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:28 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">shane_digital <shane_digital@yahoo.com> wrote: To: ParanoidTimes@yahoogroups.com<br />From: "shane_digital" <shane_digital@yahoo.com><br />Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:50:41 -0000<br />Subject: [ParanoidTimes] Alex Jones' Ground Zero Report and 9/11 news around the world the truth is out!</p><p class="mobile-post"> Alex Jones' Ground Zero Report and 9/11 news around the world the<br />truth is out!<br />We have made available the MP3 of the entire Alex Jones Show today<br />because of the importance of the broadcast. Alex is back in the studio<br />to discuss his role in the 9/11 anniversary protests, and is joined by<br />several truth activists who were there with him including Jason Bermas<br />from the Loose Change crew. Also featured is a short interview with<br />BBC reporter Greg Palast, who is being criminally charged with<br />unauthorized filming of a "critical national security structure" in<br />Louisiana.<br />> VIDEO: Alex Jones @ Ground Zero<br />> VIDEO: Alex Jones & Truth Activists Protest Elliot Spitzer<br />> VIDEO: Venezuela's Chavez says Bush planned 9/11 attacks<br />> Norwegian imam: Muslims not behind 9/11<br />> UNH backs prof with controversial views on Sept. 11<br />> French Newspaper Le Monde Covers 9/11 Truth<br />> Internet gives voice to 9/11 'truth seekers'<br />> HIT PIECE: Attack sparked an industry for conspiracies<br />> It's 9/11, stay aware<br />> VIDEO: Alex Jones, Protesters Confront CFR Globalists<br />> PHOTOS: 9/11 Truthers at Ground Zero<br />> Alex Jones Bullhorning at the WTC<br />> Empty Words: No Longer Believable<br />> VIDEO: David Ray Griffin BBC interview about 9/11<br />> Pyroclastic Flows - 9/11's `Smoking Gun'<br />> Loose Change on Paula Zahn</p><p class="mobile-post">all this here:<br />http://www.prisonplanet.com/</p><p class="mobile-post">Got flooded with news submissions today. I would encourage everyone to<br />make use of the blogs section to post and discuss news as we can't<br />give each of these submissions the attention they deserve at the rate<br />they are coming in.</p><p class="mobile-post">(image courtesy of louder than words)</p><p class="mobile-post">Loose Change Creators post Photos and Commentary from 5th Anniversary</p><p class="mobile-post">Massive Protests at Ground Zero with Alex Jones on a bullhorn:<br />http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5318381050582557158<br />http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2058900307247947089</p><p class="mobile-post">9/11 Mysteries available on google video:<br />http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7143212690219513043<br />http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-999558027849894376<br />http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1162851149755261569<br />9/11:Press for Truth on google video:<br />http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1016720641536424083<br />New first hand footage from 9/11 in NYC: September 11, 2001: What We Saw<br />Revver.com .MOV<br />Google video</p><p class="mobile-post">Dutch program Zembla investigates 9/11 theories - streaming video</p><p class="mobile-post">One of the more interesting moments in this documentary (about<br />46:25 minutes into it) is when they ask demolition expert Danny<br />Jowenko (who has his own demolition firm and reportedly has been<br />active in this business for 27 years) to comment on videos of the<br />collapse of the Twin Towers and WTC 7. His response to the WTC 7 video:<br />"This is controlled demolition".</p><p class="mobile-post">Dutch 'Metro' paper publishes 2 pages on 9/11 skepticism (translation)<br />9/11: Press for Truth Premeir in Decatur, GA - bravenewtheaters.com<br />Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracies, Already - progressive.org<br />Brad Blog editor reviews 9/11:Press for Truth<br />Oliver Stone hints at darker 9/11 film in future<br />Five years later, 9/11 doubters linger - Aspen Daily News<br />VIDEO: The Debate: Loose Change Vs. Popular Mechanics<br />Rush Limbaugh fields Caller who says 9/11 an inside job<br />9/11 Truth Movement Needs Legal Action Group</p><p class="mobile-post">thanks to kim, stuart, barry, JT, Kev, Sam L, johan, road66, david,<br />Michael, Paul, and others for the submissions!!</p><p class="mobile-post">all this here:<br />http://www.911blogger.com/</p><p class="mobile-post"> </p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br />Why keep checking for Mail? The all-new Yahoo! Mail shows you when there are new messages.<br /> <br />---------------------------------<br />Why keep checking for Mail? The all-new Yahoo! Mail shows you when there are new messages.<br />Messages in this topic (1)<br />________________________________________________________________________<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">13. cops<br /> Posted by: "Jolly Roger" internetspies@yahoo.com internetspies<br /> Date: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:40 pm (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">Read something very interesting at prison planet -- In my account of the ground zero action I mentioned that I had a feeling the cops were on our side -- Alex Jones says he has vidoe of one of them saying "thank you, we appreciate your investigation, keep it up" --- or something to that effect, and that many of the cops there shared that same opiion. I thought it was weird how they were escorting us around -- almost like they were protecting us rather then being ready to taser and mace us. <br /> <br /> As it turns out, a lot of cops (and rescue workers) are suffering from luing damage because the feds lied about the air quality --- so we may have picked up an important ally in this struggle. I think the cops really are on our side, but they're just not allowed to talk about it. <br /> <br /> A few days ago I read somewhere that some military brass ignored Rummy when he told them to send troops into Iraq (or possibly Afghanistan). <br /> <br /> These events are very significant, and the best thing we could hope for --- it means we can reach a peaceful solution, an no dissenters will be "rounded up." We have nothing to fear but fear itself. <br /> <br /> everyone who knows the truth is on our side. </p><p class="mobile-post"> <br />---------------------------------<br />Do you Yahoo!?<br /> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.<br />Messages in this topic (1)<br />________________________________________________________________________<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">14. Wake Up and Smell the Cordite (USS Cole Caper)<br /> Posted by: "shaman_nation" edward19@cox.net shaman_nation<br /> Date: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:36 am (PDT)</p><p class="mobile-post">Wake Up and Smell the Cordite (USS Cole Caper) <br />http://www.signs-of-the-<br />times.org/signs/editorials/signs_WakeUpAndSmellTheCordite.php <br />Signs of the Times <br />Joe Quinn <br />09/02/2006 <br />al-Badawi. Do you recognise that name? Didn't think so. He's one of <br />the people that the US government alleges carried out a suicide bomb <br />attack on the USS Cole as it sat at a Yemeni harbor in 2000. The <br />official story goes that Badawi and his accomplices purchased a small <br />boat, loaded it with 500lbs of explosives and some ready-made suicide <br />bombers who then drove it alongside the Cole while it was docked <br />and...Kaboom. Here's a photo of the damage. </p><p class="mobile-post">Note the lack of blast damage to the ship around the hole that we are <br />told was caused by 500lbs of conventional explosives. For some <br />reason, that hole reminds me of a WWII movie? Hang on, it's coming <br />back to me, yes, I can see it now, a white trail rocketing towards a <br />ship, just below the surface of the water. Then an explosion at the <br />water line and a relatively neat round hole in the hull. Yes indeed, <br />military explosives are so very efficient. But no, my eyes must be <br />deceiving me, it was a dingy-load of fertilizer that did it. <br />Just for comparison, here's an image of just some of the damage done <br />by a conventional 500lb bomb (the type used by "terrorists") that was <br />detonated in London's financial district in 1996. </p><p class="mobile-post">As it turns out, unnamed "officials" at the time of the attack on the <br />Cole were also fairly skeptical of the official story, and were more <br />inclined to think that the damage done to the Cole was the result of <br />military hardware: <br />Officials said examination of the Cole indicated that the explosive <br />used was even more sophisticated than initially thought. The <br />penetrating force and the damage deep in the interior strongly <br />suggested that the bomb was a "shaped charge," designed to focus the <br />explosion rather than allow it to spread in all directions, as with a <br />typical truck bomb, officials said. <br />"With every piece of information, it becomes a more sophisticated <br />operation," one official said. <br />The officials have not disclosed the specific type of device used, <br />though the use of a directed explosive led to speculation that the <br />device operated like an warhead. Such a device is a more <br />sophisticated weapon than those used by most terrorist organizations, <br />and possibly came from a military stockpile. <br />Despite this, the image of a bunch of wild-eyed "terrorists" sitting <br />atop 500lbs of cow manure in a dingy, and somehow slinking up to the <br />side of the Cole undetected, persisted and was successfully implanted <br />in the minds of the world's citizens. How could such a thing have <br />possibly happened? Well, initially by way of good old-fashioned lies: <br />Adm. Vernon Clark, the chief of naval operations, had argued that <br />because the small boat was involved in the mooring, the crew of the <br />Cole "had no reason to suspect . . . that there was anything to be <br />suspicious about," as he put it in an interview on "The NewsHour with <br />Jim Lehrer" last week. <br />"The reason that a ship, a small boat like this, could get in this <br />proximity to the USS Cole is that it was part of the party, the <br />support party that was assisting the ship in tying up to their <br />berthing position," Clark said in an interview with CBS News. <br />Later however, other Navy officials made a fool of the good Admiral <br />by reporting that the Cole had been berthed for more than 90 minutes <br />before the explosion occurred, leaving no apparent reason as to how <br />the alleged boat bombers could have got so close to the ship. That <br />is, if there were any boat bombers at all. <br />The BBC also reported on the type of explosives used stating <br />that: "the [Yemeni] president said samples of explosives taken from <br />the destroyer had been identified by US investigators as of a type <br />available only in Israel, the USA, and two Arab countries" (two Arab <br />countries that get it from the US or Israel) . <br />The Yemeni President, Ali Abdallah Salih, further stated: "we believe <br />Israel might be involved in such incidents." <br />Not long thereafter however, the Yemeni President seemed to fall in <br />line with the official story and claimed that Yemeni officials <br />had "found the boat" (amazingly durable these dingys) and various <br />other pieces of evidence that proved that a group of al-Qaeda <br />terrorists carried out the attack. Yemeni officials even stated that <br />the "terrorists" had tried to bomb the destroyer USS 'The Sullivans' <br />while it was in the same Yemeni port earlier in 2000, but on that <br />occasion, the terrorists' dingy full of fertilizer sank before they <br />could carry out their misguided attack. A core benefit of the attack <br />on the Cole is to found in the fact that then Defense Secretary <br />William S. Cohen used it to further establish Bin Laden as arch <br />terror chief. Cohen stated: "investigators were looking at anti-<br />Western guerrilla groups, including exiled Saudi dissident Osama bin <br />Laden." <br />Further investigations into the Cole attack eventually turned up a <br />group of likely suspects, many of whom were veteran Muslim fighters <br />of the war in Afghanistan and Bosnia where they had essentially been <br />recruits of the CIA. Coincidence? <br />The success of the Islamic Revolution in Iran in 1979 and the <br />international jihad against the Soviet troops in Afghanistan promoted <br />by the covert action division of the USA's Central Intelligence <br />Agency (CIA), with the help of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) <br />of Pakistan, led to many negative consequences, which ultimately <br />contributed to the Pakistan-Afghanistan region emerging as the <br />epicentre of punishment terrorism of the most ruthless kind motivated <br />by pan-Islamic ideas. <br />[...] to rally round the Muslims of the world against the USSR, the <br />CIA consciously encouraged religious fanaticism and pan-Islamism. The <br />intelligence agencies of the US and the West European countries <br />encouraged jobless Muslims in many countries to go to Pakistan, <br />undergo military training in the newly sprung-up Wahabi-Deobandi <br />madrasas and join the Afghan Mujahideen. Between 6,000 and 10,000 <br />Muslims, the majority of them Arabs, went and fought against the <br />Soviet troops in Afghanistan, with Saudi Arabia funding them, the ISI <br />training and motivating them and the CIA and other Western <br />intelligence agencies equipping them. <br />Osama bin Laden, then a blue-eyed boy of the CIA, played an active <br />role in the training and motivation of these mercenaries and led them <br />to battle against the Soviet troops. In addition to the Arabs, <br />jobless Muslims from the Jammu & Kashmir State of India, Bangla Desh, <br />the Arakan area of Myanmar, Southern Philippines, Malaysia and <br />Indonesia were also encouraged by the CIA to join this mercenary <br />brigade. Fourthly, faced with the increasing difficulties encountered <br />by its Slav troops in countering the CIA-instigated pan-Islamic <br />mercenaries, Moscow started sending to Afghanistan the Muslim members <br />of its Armed Forces recruited from the Central Asian Republics <br />(CARs), Chechnya and Dagestan. These troops got infected by the pan-<br />Islamism of the CIA's mercenaries. <br />[...] a number of new pan-Islamic organisations of Wahabi-Deobandi-<br />Ahle Hadith orientation sprang up in Pakistani soil and these were <br />given the leadership role by the US for leading the mercenary brigade <br />to battle. The most important amongst them were the Harkat-ul-<br />Mujahideen (HUM), the Harkat-ul-Jihad-Al-Islami (HUJI) and the <br />Lashkar-e-Toiba (LET). The HUM and the HUJI were born out of the SSP <br />and shared its anti-Shia orientation. All these organisations were <br />favoured by Zia and his ISI. The HUM, which produced some of the best <br />fighters of the Afghan war, was favoured by the CIA and got the <br />lion's share of the Stinger missiles, explosives and other equipment. <br />Towards the end of the 1980s, the HUM and the HUJI merged to form the <br />Harkat-ul-Ansar (HUA) and separated again in 1998 after the USA <br />designated the HUA as a foreign terrorist organisation under a 1996 <br />law in October,1997. The Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) was formed in the <br />beginning of 2000 by a split in the HUM. After the withdrawal of the <br />Soviet troops in 1988, the USA lost interest in Afghanistan and left <br />the mercenary brigade in the lurch. <br />Promises made to these jobless Muslims at the time of their <br />recruitment that after the war in Afghanistan was over, they would be <br />helped to re-settle in the USA with lucrative jobs were not kept up. <br />Some of these mercenaries went back to their country of origin and <br />joined the fundamentalist groups in fighting against their <br />Governments (examples: Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt). Others stayed <br />behind and were diverted to J&K by the ISI. The HUM and the HUJI were <br />used by the ISI to rally round the dregs of the war of the 1980s and <br />divert them to India. They did so very successfully. But, at the same <br />time, they promoted jihad in Chechnya and Dagestan in Russia, <br />Xinjiang in China, in the newly-independent CARs, in Bangladesh, in <br />the Arakan area of Myanmar and in the Southern Philippines. The HUJI <br />took over the leadership of the jihadi elements in Bangladesh and the <br />HUM in the rest of the world, including the USA. HUM cadres fought <br />actively against the US Marines in Somalia. <br />Not having learnt any lessons from the sequel to its policy of <br />encouraging fanaticism and pan-Islamism in Afghanistan and despite <br />the humiliation inflicted on the US troops in Somalia by the HUM in <br />1993, the CIA asked the ISI to divert part of the dregs of the HUM <br />and the HUJI to Bosnia to assist the Muslims there in their fight <br />against the Serbs. <br />The USA was aware of the presence and activities of bin Laden in <br />Afghan territory since July 1996, but did not move vigorously against <br />him as long as it was hopeful of getting the assistance of the <br />Taliban for the construction of the oil and gas pipeline from <br />Turkmenistan to Pakistan through the Herat area of Afghanistan by <br />UNOCAL, the powerful American company. It moved seriously against bin <br />Laden only after UNOCAL withdrew from the project and after he had <br />formed the International Islamic Front and issued in 1998 his first <br />fatwa against the US <br />With all of the above in mind, consider the following information <br />culled from news reports since the attack on the Cole: <br />"Six Yemeni suspects in the bombing of the USS Cole have been <br />identified by sources close to the investigation, who say they share <br />a background as fighters in the anti-Soviet war in Afghanistan in the <br />1980s. Jamal al-Badawi, the most senior of the 6 suspects jailed in <br />Yemen told investigators he received telephone instructions for the <br />Oct. 12 bombing from a man in the United Arab Emirates, the Yemeni <br />sources said.. Al-Badawi said he had met the man in Afghanistan <br />during the war but had not seen him since, the sources said." </p><p class="mobile-post">"Investigators in Yemen say they hold six suspects in the bombing of <br />the USS Cole. All six are said to be Yemeni veterans of the Afghan <br />war against the Soviets. The main suspect was identified as Jamal al-<br />Badawi.""The network also said another suspect, Jamal al-Badawi, <br />admitted to investigators he trained in bin Laden's guerrilla camps <br />in Afghanistan and was sent with bin Laden's forces to fight in <br />Bosnia's civil war. ABC News said the suspects' stories provide the <br />first direct links between bin Laden and the Cole bombing." <br />Jamal al-Badawi, regarded as the most senior of the Cole suspects who <br />have been arrested, told investigators that he received telephone <br />instructions for the bombing from Mohammed Omar al-Harazi in the <br />United Arab Emirates. Badawi said he had originally met Harazi in <br />Afghanistan during the war. <br />According to US officials, Harazi, who sometimes uses the names Abdul <br />Rahman Hussein al-Nashari or al-Nassir, is a cousin of the suicide <br />bomber who blew up the US embassy in Nairobi in 1998. He had been a <br />regular visitor to Aden but disappeared four days before the attack <br />on the USS Cole. <br />So we have a mastermind of the Cole bombing - "al Nashari", who <br />is "chief of operations in the Persian Gulf " no less, or so we are <br />told. Al Nashari was in fact captured in 2002 for his alleged part in <br />the Cole attack. During his trial in 2004 defence lawyers presented <br />evidence that the then Yemeni Foreign Minister had given al Nashiri a <br />high level security clearance: <br />Cole Attack Suspect 'Had Top-Level Security Clearance <br />Khaled Al-Mahdi, Arab News <br />SANAA, 26 August 2004 A lawyer defending five Yemenis charged with <br />the October 2000 attack on the warship USS Cole told a court in Sanaa <br />yesterday that authorities had granted a security clearance to the <br />main suspect in the attack. <br />The lawyer, Abdul-Aziz Al-Samawi, presented a document to the court <br />giving the suspected mastermind of the attack Abdul-Raheem Al- Nashri <br />a permit to pass military checkpoints without being subjected to <br />inspection. <br />Al-Samawi said the laissez passer was issued by the office of the <br />former Interior Minister Hussein Muhammad Arab. </p><p class="mobile-post">Al-Nashri and five other Yemenis were charged with the attack when <br />the trial began on July7 . Five of the suspects were present in the <br />court, while Al-Nashri is being tried in absentia. <br />Al-Nashiri is also suspected of involvement in attacks on the US <br />embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August 1998 that killed224 people, <br />and in the October 2002 attack on the French supertanker Limburg off <br />south Yemen in which one Bulgarian crew member was killed and 12 were <br />wounded. <br />Washington has accused Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden of ordering <br />the attack. Bin Laden applauded the bombing in remarks broadcast on <br />Al-Jazeera TV in February2001 but denied his involvement. <br />Now let's think about this. A known terrorist was given a high level <br />security clearance by the Yemeni government which facilitated him in <br />planning the attack on the Cole. Which would mean that the Yemeni <br />government was openly siding with anti-American terrorists. The <br />strange thing is that in the aftermath of the attack on the Cole, the <br />American government did not accuse the Yemeni government of <br />supporting terrorism but instead called it a "partner in the war on <br />terror". To make matters worse, and as we have seen, the Yemeni <br />president initially came out and blamed Israel for the attack. <br />A logical explanation for this is that the Yemeni government gave <br />free pass to the "terrorists" because said terrorists were working <br />(either consciously or unconsciously) for the CIA and/or the Israeli <br />Mossad and the Yemeni government was instructed to allow these <br />terrorists to do their jobs, their job being to create the appearance <br />of a terrorist attack on the USS Cole. I say "appearance" because it <br />is quite clear that a dingy-full of fertilizer with a couple of <br />Jihadists perched on top definitely did NOT do the damage to the USS <br />Cole. <br />Unfortunately, al-Nashari has never been available to give evidence <br />at the trials that have taken place since his capture and therefore <br />never had a chance to tell us who he really works for. The reason is <br />that the CIA have disappeared him into one of their black holes of <br />rendition. How unfortunate for the rest of us who would like to know <br />what is really going on behind the "war on terror". Yet how fortunate <br />for the American and Israeli governments who seem to have an awful <br />lot to hide. <br />So we are left then with al Nashari's protege, the abovementioned al-<br />Badawi. </p><p class="mobile-post">Now al-Badawi's story is a very interesting one. He was already in <br />custody in Yemen in January 2001. Then in April 2003 he, along with 9 <br />other suspects in the bombing of the Cole, escaped from <br />their "tightly guarded intelligence building" either by breaking a <br />window or digging a hole, no one seems quite sure. Indeed, there <br />seemed to be more than a little suspicion that the escapees, like al <br />Nashari, had inside help, hence the reluctance of Yemeni officials to <br />comment on the matter at the time. <br />Fortunately, Badawi was recaptured in May 2003. Then, in September <br />2004, along with his disappeared mentor al Nashari, Badawi was <br />sentenced to death by a court in Yemen for his alleged part in the <br />bombing of the Cole. Badawi's lawyers successfully appealed, and in <br />February 2005, his sentence was commuted to 15 years in jail. <br />Then, Badawi escaped again last week. </p><p class="mobile-post">USS Cole plotter escapes prison <br />Sunday, February 5, 2006; <br />(CNN) -- Interpol has issued "an urgent global security alert" after <br />23 "dangerous individuals" -- including a man identified as the <br />mastermind of the attack on the USS Cole in 2000 -- escaped from a <br />Yemeni prison. <br />The international crime-fighting organization said Sunday at least 13 <br />of the 23 who escaped Friday were "convicted al Qaeda terrorists, <br />some of whom were involved in attacks on U.S. and French ships in <br />2000 and 2002." <br />"Al Qaeda terrorists have been deemed a serious threat to the entire <br />world community by the U.N. Security Council, by Interpol and by a <br />wide range of countries," Interpol Secretary General Ronald K. Noble <br />said in the statement. <br />They escaped via a 140-meter (150-yard) -long tunnel "dug by the <br />prisoners and co-conspirators outside," Interpol said. <br />"Their escape cannot be considered an internal problem for Yemen <br />alone." <br />Among the escapees was Jamal Ahmed Badawi, considered the mastermind <br />behind the attack on the USS Cole on October 12, 2000. <br />This time, there seems little doubt that he had inside help <br />Al-Qaida escapees may have had inside help <br />By AHMAD AL-HAJ <br />Associated Press <br />2/7/2006 SAN'A, <br />Yemen - Investigators are looking into the possibility that Yemeni <br />intelligence officers helped 23 al-Qaida prisoners - including a <br />militant convicted in the 2000 USS Cole bombing - escape from an <br />underground prison beneath a heavily guarded security headquarters, <br />officials said Monday. <br />The prisoners escaped Friday, apparently by digging a tunnel some 180 <br />yards long that emerged at a mosque, the security officials said. <br />It was not the first major prison escape for al-Qaida militants. At <br />least four members of the group broke out of a prison at Bagram, the <br />main U.S. base in Afghanistan in July. Among them was Omar al-Farouq, <br />a top leader of al-Qaida in Southeast Asia. <br />Geez! You'd think the US military would keep a better eye on these <br />evil terrorists that are threatening all of our lives. <br />An investigation headed by the Yemeni interior minister has begun <br />questioning intelligence officers, government and security officials <br />said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not <br />authorized to divulge details on the probe. <br />"It couldn't have happened without the coordination of high ranking <br />officers in the intelligence," said one official. He pointed to <br />possible militant infiltration of the intelligence agency, saying <br />hundreds of Yemenis who fought in Afghanistan in the 1980s against <br />Russian occupation were given jobs with the security forces when they <br />returned. <br />"It is no surprise that many of these former fighters are sympathetic <br />to al-Qaida," he said. <br />Yemen's interior ministry confirmed in a statement that the convicts <br />escaped from the headquarters for the political security forces. It <br />gave no further details. <br />The prison was underground in the headquarters, one of the most <br />heavily guarded buildings in the capital. The compound is surrounded <br />by a high wall and armed guards, and all roads leading to it are <br />blocked to vehicles. <br />The 23 militants, all of them convicted members of al-Qaida, were <br />kept in the same cell, the officials said. [...] <br />Among the 22 other "al-Qaeda" militants that escaped with Badawi last <br />week was one Fahd al-Quso, who had also escaped and been re-captured <br />with Badawi in 2003. </p><p class="mobile-post">Former FBI assistant director John O Neill spent many years <br />attempting to understand the real nature of "Islamic terrorism" and <br />its threat to America. On October 14th 2000, two days after the <br />attack on the Cole, O Neill led a 200 strong team of FBI agents to <br />the site of the attack. Sadly, O Neill's investigation did not get <br />very far, yet it was not, as we might expect, Yemeni authorities that <br />stonewalled O Neill, but rather the US' own ambassador to Yemen, <br />Barbara Bodine. O Neill and most of his team were forced out of Yemen <br />by Bodine less than a month after their arrival. O Neill was <br />prevented from returning to Yemen by the incoming Bush <br />administration. Now why would the US ambassador to Yemen, and by <br />implication the Clinton and Bush governments, want to prevent an FBI <br />agent from investigating the bombing of the USS Cole? More to the <br />point, why would the CIA refuse to give O Neill information that <br />could have connected the people allegedly involved in the bombing of <br />the Cole and the 9/11 attacks less than a year later? <br />You see, Fahad al-Quso, like Badawi, was originally arrested in <br />December 2000 by Yemeni authorities who claimed he too was involved <br />in the attack on the Cole. O Neill was aware of this and was <br />desperate to interview the man, who he believed had important <br />information to divulge. Yet due to the fact that he had been <br />effectively barred from Yemen by his own government, O Neill could do <br />nothing. The really interesting point here is that the CIA already <br />knew that, in addition to being involved in the USS Cole bombing, al-<br />Quso had been at a January 2000 meeting in Malaysia with two other <br />alleged members of al-Qaeda by the names of Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid <br />Almihdhar. You probably don't remember these two names, and you <br />really aren't meant to, but if you were to ask Dick Cheney, for <br />example, he would tell you that those two "al-Qaeda" members were two <br />of the alleged hijackers of Flight 77 that is alleged to have hit the <br />Pentagon on September 11th 2001. For some reason however, the CIA <br />refused to provide O Neill with the information about the Malaysia <br />meeting, information that would probably have allowed him to connect <br />the people involved in the attack on the Cole to preparations for the <br />9/11 attacks. <br />Unable to take the obviously deliberate attempts to block his <br />investigations, O Neill resigned from the FBI in mid 2001. He was <br />offered and accepted a job as security chief at the WTC in New York. <br />He started work on the 34th Floor of the WTC North tower on September <br />10th 2001. He escaped the initial impact of Flight 11 into the North <br />tower, but was apparently killed in the collapse while helping in the <br />rescue attempt. <br />What a tangled web they weave. <br />The FBI was eventually allowed to interrogate Al-Quso themselves. <br />Guess which date they were permitted re-entry to Yemen? September <br />12th 2001. At the interrogation, al-Quso admitted the January 2000 <br />Malaysia meeting with the two alleged Flight 77 hijackers. One <br />investigator called the missed opportunity of exposing the 9/11 plot <br />through al-Quso's connections "mind-boggling." Indeed, it is almost <br />impossible for anyone to understand how the US government could take <br />measures to actually facilitate the preparations for the 9/11 attacks <br />while at the same time claim to be fighting terrorism. What is <br />needed, obviously, is a restructuring of our understanding of the <br />nature of the "war on terror", because the understanding provided to <br />us by the US government simply doesn't make sense. <br />Coming back to the present, when they heard of the escape of these <br />two "key members of al-Qaeda", a few American politicians were <br />understandably a little nonplussed by the contrast between the US <br />government's claims about fighting terrorism and how easily they seem <br />to allow these same terrorists to escape custody. One Senator, Russ <br />Feingold, wrote Secretary of State Condi Rice a couple of days ago to <br />express his dismay: <br />U.S. Sen. Feingold: Letter to Rice on Yemen Prison Escape <br />"Al-Badawi's success in twice escaping Yemeni custody not only calls <br />into question our security and counter-terrorism relationship with <br />Yemen, but it also raises the question of whether or not we have in <br />place the right partnerships and relationships to ensure that known <br />al-Qaida operatives are successfully detained and prosecuted. <br />Senator Feingold is asking for a classified briefing "detailing what <br />is known thus far about all of the suspects, the circumstances <br />surrounding their detention and escape, current Yemeni and <br />international efforts to find and detain them, and their possible <br />current whereabouts and activities. In addition, I request <br />information about the extent to which the U.S. monitored these <br />detainees prior to their escape, about what actions were taken to <br />prevent a repeat of the escape in 2003, and about the assurances, <br />commitments, and cooperation that the U.S. had received from the <br />Yemeni government with respect to prosecuting those responsible for <br />the attack." <br />Pretty strong words. We can only imagine the stream of expletives <br />that Senator Feingold would direct at Condi if he knew that, in July <br />last year, four other "al-Qaeda terrorists" escaped custody, but this <br />time they escaped from a high security US military base in war-torn <br />Afghanistan: <br />"In Afghanistan, the search for the four al-Qaida members who escaped <br />(from a US military base) in July continues, U.S. military spokesman <br />Lt. Mike Cody said. In a video believed filmed in Afghanistan and <br />broadcast in October on Al-Arabiya, the four claimed they picked a <br />lock and timed the escape for a Sunday when many of the Americans on <br />the base were off duty." <br />Doesn't it just make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know that <br />the US government has spent billions of US taxpayers money hunting <br />down evil Islamic terrorists only to allow them to escape from US <br />military jails with a hair pin? <br />Perhaps if Senator Feingold was appraised of the full details of what <br />goes on behind the smokescreen of the phony "war on terror" he would <br />eventually come to the conclusion that the US government has no more <br />interest in successfully detaining and prosecuting "al-Qaeda <br />terrorists" than it has in successfully detaining and prosecuting any <br />other government employee - because that is exactly what your <br />average "al-Qaeda terrorist" is. <br />More than likely, you have forgotten this story: <br />FBI Admits: No Evidence Links 'Hijackers' to 9-11 <br />After seven months of non-stop declarations by U.S. government <br />spokesmen that there exists solid proof tying 19 Muslim men to <br />plotting the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, FBI Director Robert Mueller <br />has now admitted quite the opposite. That 19 Muslim men who have <br />apparently disappeared have been named as the hijackers is not in <br />doubt. What is in doubt is whether those 19 men were actually <br />plotting anything, either individually or together. The amazing <br />possibility remains that others carried out the Sept. 11 terrorist <br />attacks, using the identities of the 19 Muslims who have been <br />assigned guilt in the tragedy. <br />Mueller made this claim despite the fact that in the immediate wake <br />of the Sept. 11 attacks, a variety of U.S. officials and media <br />sources speciously announced, almost instantaneously, that there was <br />firm evidence not only that these 19 Muslim men were agents of Osama <br />bin Laden's al Qaeda "network" but that they were indeed the <br />individuals who hijacked the doomed flights on Sept. 11. Mueller <br />seems to forget that early government and media reports loudly <br />hyped "discoveries"letters and other documentsin the luggage and <br />personal belongings of the presumed hijackers which "proved" that <br />they were on a "mission for Allah," etc etc. Now Mueller's comments <br />seem to contradict everything that's been said. <br />And this one: <br />Give Him an "F" in the War on Terror <br />By ALEXANDER COCKBURN <br />and JEFFREY ST. CLAIR </p><p class="mobile-post">George Bush, the man whose prime campaign plank has been his ability <br />to wage war on terror, could have had Osama bin Laden's head handed <br />to him on a platter on his very first day in office, and the offer <br />held good until February 2 of 2002. This is the charge leveled by an <br />Afghan American who had been retained by the US government as an <br />intermediary between the Taliban and both the Clinton and Bush <br />administrations. <br />In a lengthy interview and in a memorandum Kabir Mohabbat has given <br />us a detailed account and documentation to buttress his charge that <br />the Bush administration could have had Osama bin Laden and his senior <br />staff either delivered to the US or to allies as prisoners, or killed <br />at their Afghan base. As a search of the data base shows, portions of <br />Mohabbat's role have been the subject of a number of news reports, <br />including a CBS news story by Alan Pizzey aired September 25, 2001. <br />This is the first he has made public the full story. [...] <br />And this one: <br />Interview With Author Craig Unger <br />Aired October 20, 2003 <br />THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND <br />MAY BE UPDATED. <br />WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: One of the little publicized stories in the <br />immediate aftermath of 9/11 was how the Bush administration helped <br />Saudi citizens leave the United States, including relatives of Osama <br />bin Laden and the Saudi royal family. Writer Craig Unger of "Vanity <br />Fair" says there's much more to this than meets the eye, the details <br />of which appeared in the October issue of "Vanity Fair." <br />The magazine article is just part Craig Unger's upcoming book, "House <br />of Bush, House of Saud," due to be released next spring. He's joining <br />us now live from New York. </p><p class="mobile-post">It is a complex relationship between these two families, but give us <br />the gist. What is your worst case fear, based on the quick exodus, if <br />you will, of relatives of Osama bin Laden, and Saudi royal family <br />members in the United States in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, even <br />though 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis? </p><p class="mobile-post">CRAIG UNGER, "VANITY FAIR": Right. Well, I think the key question is, <br />why did the Saudis get a pass? That is, immediately after any murder, <br />whether it is a commonplace murder or a horrible national tragedy <br />like 9/11, one of the first things you would do would be to talk to <br />the friends and relatives of the perpetrator. In this case, Osama bin <br />Laden. And 140 Saudis, including roughly 24 members of the bin Laden <br />family, left in the days following that without being seriously <br />interrogated. [...] <br />Of course, the US government will attempt to explain away these <br />events with stories of lax security, but rather than accepting <br />incredible stories of incredible incompetence as an explanation for <br />such incidents, why don't we just digest all that I have presented <br />here and come to the obvious conclusion - that US and Israeli <br />intelligence agencies employ, manipulate and coerce patsy Islamic <br />radicals to take the fall for "terror" attacks that US and Israeli <br />intelligence agencies carry out themselves. <br />Think WTC 1993 <br />Think US embassy bombings <br />Think USS Cole <br />Think Bali bomb <br />Think 9/11 <br />Think Madrid Train Bombing <br />Think London Tube Bombings <br />Think Palestinian 'Suicide' Bombings <br />They all bear the hallmarks of US Israeli and British intelligence <br />agency false flag terror Ops. It's time to wake up and smell the <br />cordite. <br />Dei Jurum Conventus </p><p class="mobile-post">Ed Ward, MD; http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/arc_ward.htm <br />Independent writer/Media Liaison for The Price of Liberty; <br />http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/</p><p class="mobile-post">Messages in this topic (1)<br />________________________________________________________________________<br />________________________________________________________________________</p><p class="mobile-post">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Yahoo! Groups Links</p><p class="mobile-post"><*> To visit your group on the web, go to:<br /> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/</p><p class="mobile-post"><*> Your email settings:<br /> Digest Email | Traditional</p><p class="mobile-post"><*> To change settings online go to:<br /> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/join<br /> (Yahoo! 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Defense Protective Services Police seal the crash sight. Army medics, nurses and doctors scramble to organize aid. An Arlington Fire Department chief dispatches his equipment to the affected areas. Don Abbott, of Command Emergency Response Training, walks over to the Pentagon and extinguishes the flames. The Pentagon was a model and the 'plane crash' was a simulated one. The Pentagon Mass Casualty Exercise, as the crash was called, was just one of several scenarios that emergency response teams were exposed to Oct. 24-26 in the Office of the Secretaries of Defense conference room." </font> </p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><b>Contingency planning</b> --Pentagon MASCAL exercise simulates scenarios in preparing for emergencies --<a href="http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/Contingency_Planning_Photos.html" target="display"> Photolog</a></font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-sept-11-tenet,0,996000.story" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Tenet Misspoke [Lied] About Not Meeting Bush</font> </b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> CIA Director George Tenet misspoke <b>[<font color="#ff0000">lied</font>]</b> Wednesday when he told a federal panel reviewing the Sept. 11 attacks that he did not meet with Dictator Bush in August 2001. Under questioning by commissioner Tim Roemer, Tenet said he never spoke with Bush during the month before the attacks, a period marked by concern over possible terrorist strike. In fact, Tenet flew to Texas to brief Bush on Aug. 17, 2001, and briefed the dictator again on Aug. 31 when Bush returned to Washington, a spokesman for Tenet said later in the day. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2004/04/14/pentagon_crash_too_unrealistic/" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Pentagon crash 'too unrealistic' </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Five months before Sept. 11, 2001, the officers responsible for defending American airspace wanted to test their ability to prevent a hijacked airliner from being crashed into the Pentagon, but the scenario was rejected by the Joint Chiefs of Staff as impractical, a Joint Chiefs spokesman confirmed yesterday. The NORAD proposal is the clearest sign yet that national security officials were worried before 9/11 about terrorists using hijacked airliners as missiles, despite testimony that senior leaders, including National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, didn't know of such concerns. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9642-2004Apr13.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Panel Says Bush Saw Repeated Warnings</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> By the time a CIA briefer gave Dictator Bush the Aug. 6, 2001, President's Daily Brief headlined "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US," <b>the dictator had seen a stream of alarming reports on al Qaeda's intentions </b>. <b>So had Vice p<font color="#ff0000">R</font>esident Cheney and Bush's top national security team</b>, according to newly declassified information released yesterday by the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N13487224.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">US 2001 reports warned bin Laden planned attack</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --Top U.S. officials received a series of intelligence reports in the months before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that said Osama bin Laden appeared to be preparing a major attack.</font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/CalgarySun/News/2004/04/13/418674.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Osama info deleted from second memo</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --<b>No mention made of possible al-Qaida activity</b> --A day after Dictator George W. Bush received a pre-Sept. 11, 2001, briefing on Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida's effort to strike on U.S. soil, government executives received a similarly titled memo that excluded information about current threats and investigations, say federal officials. The Aug. 7, 2001 memo, known as the senior executive intelligence brief or SEIB, didn't mention the 70 FBI investigations into possible al-Qaida activity that Bush had been told of a day earlier in a memo entitled 'Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US,' the officials said yesterday. The senior executives' memo also did not mention a threat received in May 2001 of a U.S.-based explosives attacks or say that the FBI had concerns about recent casing of buildings in New York, the officials told The Associated Press. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.santafenewmexican.com/main.asp?FromHome=1&TypeID=1&ArticleID=43371&SectionID=2" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Commission report says Ashcroft rejected FBI counterterrorism funds request on Sept. 10, 2001 </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --The FBI failed miserably over several years to reorganize and respond to a steadily growing threat of terrorism, and Attorney General John Ashcroft rejected an agency appeal for more funding on the day before al-Qaida struck, the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks said Tuesday. </font> </p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-scheer13apr13,1,2214722.column" target="display"><b>Drug War Led Bush Astray Before 9/11</b></a> By Robert Scheer "On May 15, 2001, I blasted the Bush administration for rewarding the Taliban for 'controlling' the opium crop with $43 million in U.S. aid to Afghanistan, to be distributed by an arm of the United Nations. Secretary of State Colin L. Powell announced the gift, specifically mentioning the opium suppression as the rationale and assuring that the U.S. would 'continue to look for ways to provide more assistance to the Afghans.' Five months before 9/11, I publicly challenged the wisdom of supporting a regime that backed Al Qaeda: 'Never mind that Osama bin Laden still operates the leading anti-American terror operation from his base in Afghanistan, from which, among other crimes, he launched two bloody attacks on American embassies in Africa in 1998.' I'm not clairvoyant, but I didn't need my own CIA to know that it's self-destructive to reward a regime that harbors the world's most dangerous terrorists... Today, opium production in a tattered Afghanistan is at an all-time high, benefiting various warlords and a resurgent Taliban, while our money, troops and attention are focused on a quagmire in Iraq, a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11 and is not known for its opium." </font> <p align="left"><b><a href="http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/611043.cms" target="display"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Bush may have known about 9/11</font></a></b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --Dictator George W Bush was told a month before September 11, '01, that Al Qaeda members were in the US and the FBI had detected suspicious activity "consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks", according to a secret memo the White House released under pressure on Saturday. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/11/1081621819966.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">The August 2001 memo to Dictator Bush on al-Qaeda</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --<b>The text of the August 6, 2001, memo sent to US Dictator George W Bush on the possibility of al-Qaeda attacks in the United States</b> --The memo, sent to Bush a little over a month before the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington and marked "For the President [sic] Only," was released by the White House today. Three redactions have been made in the memo, which was released in Crawford, where Bush is on vacation at his ranch. They have been noted with XXXXXX. The White House said the <b>three redactions</b> were made to "protect the names of foreign governments that provided information to CIA," the US Central Intelligence Agency.</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><b><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/11/1081621819966.html" target="display"> Osama bin Laden Determined To Strike in US</a> </b></font> <p align="left"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" color="#ff0000" size="2">Dictator Bush was waiting for an engraved invitation:</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4275-2004Apr11.html" target="display"> Memo Not Specific Enough, Bush Says</a> --Dictator Describes Bin Laden Threat as 'Obvious' (too all but him) Before 9/11</font></b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --Dictator Bush said yesterday that a memo he received a month before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks did not contain enough specific threat information to prevent the hijackings and "said nothing about an attack on America." </font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><a href="http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000485027" target="display"><b>Press Didn't Buy White House Spin on 9/11 Document </b></a> By Greg Mitchell "When the White House released the sure-to-be-controversial Aug. 6, 2001, President's Daily Brief (PDB) on the terrorist threat against the U.S., its timing could not have been accidental. Coming shortly after 6 p.m., Eastern Standard Time, on Saturday, it not only emerged too late for the network news programs, it also gave the nation's daily newspapers just hours to digest and interpret it... But if the White House hoped that all of this would make major newspapers spin the story their way, officials there must be sadly disappointed today." </font> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><b>Ashcroft warned of threat assessment on commercial flights in July, 2001</b> <b><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml" target="display"> Ashcroft Flying High</a></b> (July 26, 2001) Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart. In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term. </font> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,583869,00.html" target="display"><b>The ex-presidents' club</b></a> (October 31, 2001) The offices of the Carlyle Group are on Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC, midway between the White House and the Capitol building, and within a stone's throw of the headquarters of the FBI and numerous government departments... For 14 years now, with almost no publicity, the company has been signing up an impressive list of former politicians - including the first [sic] President Bush and his secretary of state, James Baker; John Major; one-time World Bank treasurer Afsaneh Masheyekhi and several south-east Asian powerbrokers - and using their contacts and influence to promote the group. Among the companies Carlyle owns are those which make equipment, vehicles and munitions for the US military, and its celebrity employees have long served an ingenious dual purpose, helping encourage investments from the very wealthy while also smoothing the path for Carlyle's defence firms. But since the start of the "war on terrorism", the firm - unofficially valued at <font color="#ff0000"><b>$3.5bn</b></font> - has taken on an added significance. <b>Carlyle has become the thread which indirectly links American military policy in Afghanistan to the personal financial fortunes of its celebrity employees, not least the current dictator's father </b>. <b>And, until earlier this month, Carlyle provided another curious link to the Afghan crisis: <font color="#ff0000">among the firm's multi-million-dollar investors were members of the family of Osama bin Laden</font> </b>. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/10/politics/10PANE.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Bush Was Warned of Possible Attack in U.S., Official Says</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">--Dictator Bush was told more than a month before the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, that supporters of Osama bin Laden planned an attack within the United States with explosives and wanted to hijack airplanes, a government official said Friday. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/04/10/wmemo10.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/04/10/ixnewstop.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Secret memo shows Bush knew about hijack plot before 9/11 </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --Forced on to the defensive by talk of a cover-up, the White House yesterday agreed to publish a top secret memorandum which warned Dictator George W Bush a month before the September 11 attacks that terrorists might be preparing to hijack aircraft. The Aug 6, 2001 memo is a Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) titled " <b><font color="#ff0000">Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States</font></b>". </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20040410/ap_on_go_pr_wh/sept_11_commission" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 Documents Show Hijacking Warnings </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --2 U.S. government agencies issued repeated warnings in the summer of 2001 about potential terrorist plots against the United States masterminded by Osama bin Laden, including a possible plan to hijack commercial aircraft, documents show. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://independent.com/news/news906.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Thinking Unthinkable Thoughts</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> <b>Theologian Charges White House Complicity in 9/11 Attack</b> --by Nick Welsh "According to [author of <i>The New Pearl Harbor</i>, David Ray] Griffin, <font color="#ff0000"><b>a case can be made that the Bush administration arranged the attack, or allowed it to happen </b></font>... NICK WELSH: Is there a smoking gun that shows the Bush administration knew 9/11 was likely to happen and did nothing about it? DAVID RAY GRIFFIN:<b> I think there are four</b>. One is the fact that standard operating procedures for dealing with possibly hijacked airplanes were not followed on 9/11. Those procedures call for fighter jets to be sent out immediately upon any sign that a plane may have been hijacked. These jets typically get to the plane within no later than 15 minutes anywhere in the United States. And on that day, there were four airplanes that went for a half-hour or more after they were hijacked without jets intercepting them... <b>And the other smoking guns?</b> The second strongest piece of evidence I would say is the crash at the Pentagon. The physical evidence contradicts so violently the official account, that the Pentagon was hit by a Boeing 757 — Flight 77, that is. The physical evidence, photographs, and eyewitness testimony say that the Pentagon was hit by something that caused a hole no larger than 18 feet in diameter. The story the Pentagon put out, and was published by the Washington Post, was that the hole in the Pentagon was five stories high and 200 feet wide. If you look at the photographs taken by Tom Horan of the Associated Press — that's just not the size of the hole. <b>But if the hole was only 18 feet wide, it had to have been created by something other than a Boeing</b>. Whatever went into the Pentagon pierced six reinforced walls. This was the west wing, the part of the Pentagon being refurbished and reinforced. These walls were extra strong, and yet whatever it was went through six walls creating a hole about seven feet in diameter in the sixth wall. This had to have been something with a very powerful head on it. A Boeing 757 has a very fragile nose, and would not have pierced through all those walls; it would have been crushed by hitting the Pentagon. And given that it only penetrated these three rings, the rest of the aircraft would have been sitting outside on the yard. And yet the photographs taken just as the fire trucks got there — very shortly after the crash — show no plane whatsoever. What do they show? They show no aircraft whatsoever. And everyone agrees on this. The official story is that the whole aircraft went inside the Pentagon. The problem with that — the firefighters in there would have seen the airplane. They would have seen the engines, they would have seen the aluminum fuselage, but they reported nothing." </font></p> <p align="left"><b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59534-2004Apr7.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 Panel: Bush White House Withheld Papers</font></a></b> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">--Commission Is Demanding Terrorism-Related Documents From Clinton Era --The</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"></font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks announced yesterday that it has identified 69 documents from the Clinton era that the Bush White House withheld from investigators and which include references to al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden and other issues relevant to the panel's work. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A55877-2004Apr6" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">'Armageddon' Plan Was Put Into Action on 9/11, Clarke Says</font></b> </a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> An "Armageddon" program designed to ensure that the federal government would continue to 'function' [?!?] in the aftermath of a nuclear war was put into place during the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Former counterterrorism official Richard A. Clarke told ABC's "Nightline," "Every federal agency was ordered, on the morning of 9/11, to activate an alternative command post, an alternative headquarters outside of Washington, D.C., and to staff it as soon as possible." The Washington Post reported in 2002 that as part of the plan, Bush has dispatched a <font color="#ff0000"><b>shadow government</b></font> of about 100 senior 'civilian managers' [?!?] to live and work secretly outside Washington. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/07/international/europe/07CND-GERM.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">German Court Frees Sept. 11 Suspect Pending His Retrial </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The only man convicted in connection with the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the United States, Mounir el-Motassadeq, was released today by a German court pending a new trial later this year. The release of Mr. Motassadeq, who was serving a 15-year sentence on 3,000 counts of accessory to murder, was the result of a decision by a German appeals court last month to reverse his conviction on the grounds that he had been denied a fair trial because of the <b>refusal of the United States to allow testimony by a captured terrorist suspect</b>. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Odigo says workers were warned of attack</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack. Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the <font color="#ff0000"></font><b><font color="#ff0000">FBI</font></b>. <b>[And, we haven't heard a *single* word about this incident in the U.S. mainstream media in two and a half years. Why?]</b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/02/politics/02PANE.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Bush Aides Block Clinton's Papers From 9/11 Panel</font></b> </a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> The commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks said on Thursday that it was pressing the White House to explain<font color="#ff0000"> </font><b><font color="#ff0000"> why the Bush dictatorship had blocked thousands of pages </font></b>of classified foreign policy and counterterrorism documents from former President Bill Clinton's White House files from being turned over to the panel's investigators. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40697-2004Mar31.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Top Focus Before 9/11 Wasn't on Terrorism</font> </b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Rice Speech Cited Missile Defense</b> --On Sept. 11, 2001, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice was scheduled to outline a Bush dictatorship policy that would address "the threats and problems of today and the day after, not the world of yesterday" -- but the focus was largely on missile defense, not terrorism from Islamic radicals. The address was designed to promote missile defense [?!?] as the cornerstone of a new national security strategy, and contained no mention of al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden or Islamic extremist groups, according to former U.S. officials who have seen the text.</font> <p align="left"><a href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4639380/" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Clarke: 9/11 might have been prevented</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> <b>Intelligence coordination could have been crucial, ex-aide says</b> --Richard Clarke, Dictator Bush's former chief counterterrorism adviser, said Wednesday it was possible that he and his team could have prevented the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks if the Bush regime had paid more attention to Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida terror network. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=507514" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">'I saw papers that show US knew al-Qa'ida would attack cities with aeroplanes' </font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Whistleblower the White House wants to silence speaks to <i>The Independent</i></b> --A former translator for the FBI with top-secret security clearance says she has provided information to the panel investigating the 11 September attacks which proves senior officials knew of al-Qa'ida's plans to attack the US with aircraft months before the strikes happened. She said the claim by the National Security Adviser, Condoleezza Rice, that there was no such information was "an outrageous lie". Sibel Edmonds said she spent more than three hours in a closed session with the commission's investigators providing information that was circulating within the FBI in the spring and summer of 2001 suggesting that an attack using aircraft was just months away and the terrorists were in place. The Bush dictatorship, meanwhile, has sought to silence her and has obtained a gagging order from a court by citing the rarely used "state secrets privilege". </font> <p align="left"><b><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37781" target="display"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">FBI informant revealed 9-11 plot in April 2001</font></a></b> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> <b>2 D.C. agents filed report that al-Qaida planned suicide attacks involving planes</b> --A former FBI employee recently briefed the 9-11 Commission about a tip he says he and two agents got from an intelligence asset outlining the 9-11 attacks -- four months before they happened. In April 2001, the long-time FBI source is said to have told two counterterrorism agents from the Washington field office that al-Qaida planned to carry out terrorist attacks in major U.S. cities, including New York, using planes and suicide operatives. The other cities named were Chicago and Los Angeles.</font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">9/11 Panel Likely to Conclude 9/11 Attacks Could Have Been Prevented</font></b> </a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> "NEWSWEEK reporting in fresh editions; The 9/11 commission is likely to conclude the attacks could have been prevented by the simple act of sharing information. In Phoenix in July 2001, an FBI agent wrote a memo warning that some young Arabs taking flying lessons might be terrorists. Had that warning made it to Clarke's counterterror shop, airlines might have begun bolting cockpit doors." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KAN403A.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Elephants in the Barracks</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> <b>The Complete Failure of the 9-11 Commission</b> --by Michael Kane "#1 – On the morning of September 11, 2001, NORAD was running war games involving hijacked airliners while the National Reconnaissance Offices (NRO) was running a drill for the scenario of an errant aircraft crashing into a government building at the exact same time as an identical scenario was perpetrated. The Air Force was in day two of annual drills testing all of its systems to respond to various threats. <i>What role, if any, did Secretary [Donald] Rumsfeld, Under Secretary [Paul] Wolfowitz, and acting Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers play in any war game scenario on the morning of September 11, 2001? What briefings did they receive about these war games before, during, and after the morning in question? </i> #2 – On October 24 through 26 of 2000 a mass emergency drill was conducted in response to an airliner being crashed into the Pentagon. <i>What did Defense Secretary [William] Cohen tell Secretary Rumsfeld about this drill during the transition process from the Clinton to Bush administration? </i> Now how is it possible these two questions were 'overlooked?'"</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20040324/ts_nm/security_commission_clarke_dc" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> Clarke Warned of Hundreds Dead Just Before 9/11</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> Former counterterrorism official Richard Clarke sent a letter to national security adviser Condoleezza Rice <font color="#ff0000"><b>one week before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks</b></font> urging Bush dictatorship aides to imagine how they would feel if hundreds of Americans were killed in a terrorist strike. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/24/911.commission/index.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Clarke to 9/11 families: Your government failed you </font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Clarke: Bush didn't see terrorism as 'urgent'</b> --Richard Clarke, Dictator Bush's former counterterrorism chief, told an independent panel investigating the attacks of September 11, 2001, that the regime didn't consider terrorism an "urgent" priority until then. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&e=1&u=/ap/20040324/ap_on_re_us/sept_11_commission" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> Ex-Adviser: Terrorism Not Urgent for Bush</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> The government's former top counterterrorism adviser testified Wednesday that the Clinton administration had "no higher priority" than combating terrorists while the Bush regime made it "an important issue but not an urgent issue." </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=50" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">DOJ Asked FBI Translator to Change Pre 9-11 Intercepts </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> --by Tom Flocco "FBI translator, Sibel Edmonds, was offered a substantial raise and a full time job in order to not go public that she had been asked by the Department of Justice (DOJ) to retranslate and adjust the translations of [terrorist] subject intercepts that had been received before September 11, 2001 by the FBI and CIA. Edmonds, a ten year U.S. citizen who has passed a polygraph examination, speaks fluent Farsi and Turkish and had been working part time with the FBI for six months-- commencing in December, 2001. In a 50 reporter scrum in front of some 12 news cameras, Edmonds said <b><font color="#ff0000">'Attorney General John Ashcroft told me 'he was invoking State Secret Privilege and National Security' when I told the FBI I wanted to go public with what I had translated from the pre 9-11 intercepts' </font></b>. <b>'I appeared once on CBS 60 Minutes but I have been silenced by Mr. Ashcroft, the FBI follows me, and I was threatened with jail in 2002 if I went public,'</b> Edmonds told <a href="http://tomflocco.com">tomflocco.com </a>."</font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/20/politics/20PANE.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Clinton Aides Plan to Tell Panel of Warning Bush Team on Qaeda</font></b> </a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Senior Clinton administration officials called to testify next week before the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks say they are prepared to detail how <b>they repeatedly warned their Bush dictatorship counterparts in late 2000 that Al Qaeda posed the worst security threat facing the nation — and how the new regime was <font color="#ff0000">slow to act</font></b>. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/03/politics/03PANE.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 Panel Rejects White House Limits on Interviews</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks is <b>refusing to accept strict conditions from the White House</b> for interviews with Dictator Bush and Vice p<font color="#ff0000"><b>R</b></font>esident Dick Cheney and is renewing its request that Mr. Bush's national security adviser testify in public, commission members said Tuesday. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=4437913" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Hastert Tells White House He Won't Extend 9/11 Panel </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> In a blow to the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, the speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives has told the White House and fellow Republicans that he will not bring up legislation to extend its May 27 deadline, officials said on Wednesday. National security adviser Condoleezza Rice has also refused to testify publicly on the grounds she is a presidential [sic] adviser and not a Senate-confirmed Cabinet officer. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/02/25/911.commission/index.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 Panel: Rice won't appear at public hearing</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The commission investigating the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks said Wednesday that National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice had declined their request to testify at a public hearing next month. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&e=7&u=/ap/20040226/ap_on_go_ot/sept_11_commission" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 Panel Urges Rice to Testify Publicly </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The federal commission reviewing the Sept. 11 attacks expressed disappointment Wednesday with national security adviser Condoleezza Rice for refusing to testify in public. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/24/politics/24TERR.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">C.I.A. Was Given Data on Hijacker Long Before 9/11</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> American investigators were given the first name and telephone number of one of the Sept. 11 hijackers two and a half years before the attacks on New York and Washington, but the United States appears to have failed to pursue the lead aggressively, American and German officials say. </font> </p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="3"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1895&e=5&u=/nm/20040223/us_nm/court_security_secrecy_dc" target="display"><b><font size="2"> Supreme Court Rejects Appeal in Secret Sept. 11 Case</font></b></a><font size="2"> The U.S. Whore Court on Monday allowed the Bush dictatorship to <font color="#ff0000"><b>keep secret all documents</b></font> in the case of a Middle Eastern man detained for immigration violations after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. As part of what it calls its 'war on </font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="3"><font size="2"> <b>[for]</b></font></font><font size="2"> terror', the regime of <b>Dictator Bush has clamped a secrecy lid on information related to its investigation of the attacks </b>.</font></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.911independentcommission.org/" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">The Family Steering Committee Statement and Questions Regarding the 9/11 Commission Interview with President [sic] Bush </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> (<a href="http://911independentcommission.org">911independentcommission.org</a>) February 16, 2004 "The Family Steering Committee believes that President [sic] Bush should provide <b>sworn public testimony</b> to the full ten-member panel of the <i>National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States</i>. Collectively, the Commissioners are responsible for fulfilling the Congressional mandate. Therefore, each Commissioner must have full access to the testimony of all individuals and the critical information that will enable informed decisions and recommendations. Before an audience of the American people, the Commission must ask President [sic] Bush in sworn testimony, the following questions..." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://thehill.com/news/021104/waxman.aspx" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Congressman asks for probe of flights of bin Laden kin</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Waxman looking for 'reassurance' --California Democrat Henry Waxman is calling on Attorney General John Ashcroft to <b><font color="#ff0000">reveal who cleared members of Osama bin Laden's family</font> and other Saudi citizens to leave the country immediately following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks </b>. Citing press accounts and congressional testimony on the issue, Waxman says the public "needs reassurance" that the Bush dictatorship conducted an "appropriate investigation" of the Saudis that were allowed to leave. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage1.asp" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Stewardess ID'd Hijackers Early, Transcripts Show</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --by Gail Sheehy "At 8:46 a.m., Mr. [American Airlines flight service manager, Michael] Woodward lost contact with Amy [Flight 11 flight attendant, Madeline (Amy)], Sweeney—the moment of metamorphosis, when her plane became a missile guided into the tower holding thousands of unsuspecting civilians. ' <b>So sometime between 8:30 and 8:46, American must have known that the hijacking was connected to Al Qaeda,</b>' said Mike Sweeney. <b>That would be 16 to 32 minutes before the second plane perforated the south tower</b> ."</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30240-2004Feb10.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 Panel to Accept Summary of Briefings</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> <b>Legal Challenge Scrapped; <font color="#ff0000">Agreement Angers Some Members, Victims' Families</font></b> --The independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks backed away yesterday from a threatened legal showdown with the White House, agreeing to accept a 17-page summary of presidential [sic] briefing documents it had sought. The deal will not allow the full 10-member commission to read the original documents, or have access to notes on the documents taken by some of the commission's own members. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.911independentcommission.org/index.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">FSC Statement Regarding the Failure of the 9/11 Independent Commission to Subpoena the White House </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> February 10, 2004 "The Family Steering Committee (FSC) is outraged by the failure of the 9/11 Independent Commission to subpoena the White House for complete access to the Presidential Daily Briefings. The public needs to be aware that the President[sic]'s statements on <i>Meet the Press</i>, on February 8, 2004, were misleading. He stated that he is 'cooperating' with the 9/11 Independent Commission. Yet the Commission has been negotiating for access to these documents for <b>over 10 months </b> with no success. While the Commission negotiates with the Executive Branch, this nation remains at risk."</font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4208768/" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">The White House: A New Fight Over Secret 9/11 Docs</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Commission sources tell NEWSWEEK that 9/11 panel members are fed up with what one calls "<font color="#ff0000"><b>maddening</b></font>" restrictions by White House lawyers on their access to key documents. Unless the panel gets to see the docs, the report " <b>will not withstand the laugh test</b>," a commission official says. <b>The panel is threatening to force a showdown soon—by voting to subpoena the White House</b>.</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.observer.com/pages/frontpage1.asp" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Bob Kerrey Says 9/11 Group Meets With Condoleezza</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --by Gail Sheehy "National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice has agreed to be interviewed by the bipartisan 9/11 commission on Feb. 7, after <font color="#ff0000"><b>weeks of resistance from the White House</b></font> to the bipartisan panel's requests, <i>The Observer</i> has learned. In a Feb. 3 interview the newly minted commission member Bob Kerrey, the former Senator from Nebraska, now the president of the New School University, said that <b>Ms. Rice's interview will not be held under oath, and the results of the interview are not to be made public</b>... Mr. Kerrey, the commission's unlikely new spitfire, told <i>The Observer</i> <b>he would lobby the commission to request sworn, public testimony from Bush's embittered national security advisor </b>."</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://apnews.myway.com//article/20040131/D80DQ0FO1.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Panel Reveals U.S. Missteps Ahead of 9/11</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> At a two-day hearing this week, the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks revealed U.S. authorities had numerous opportunities to stop the hijackers, including many face-to-face encounters. "<b>The evidence is pretty damning </b>," said Michael Greenberger, director of the Center for Health and Homeland Security at the University of Maryland. "<b>There were many signals to the White House that we were in a state of high danger in the summer of 2001, yet no leadership was exercised to shake the agencies down </b>."</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64628-2004Jan30.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">White House Holding Notes Taken by 9/11 Commission</font></b> </a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><b>Panel May Subpoena Its Summaries of Bush Briefings</b> --The White House, already embroiled in a public fight over the deadline for an independent commission's investigation of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, is <b>refusing to give the panel notes on presidential [sic] briefing papers</b> taken by some of its own members, officials said this week. <b>*<font color="#ff0000">Add your name!</font> <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html" target="display"> Petition to Senate to Investigate Oddities of 9/11</a> 22,950 signatures, thus far. </b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50466-2004Jan26.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 Panel Faults U.S. For Letting Hijackers In</font></b> </a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> <b>The U.S. government fumbled repeated opportunities to stop many of the men responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001</b> attacks from entering the country, missing fraudulent passports and other warning signs that should have attracted greater scrutiny, according to a preliminary report released yesterday. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=Breaking&storyId=817460" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Qaeda Military Boss Got U.S. Visa Despite Indictment </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Suspected Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed received a U.S. </font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">visa a few weeks before the attacks, despite a 1996 indictment linking him to earlier plots, but there is no evidence he entered the country, investigators said on Monday. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=6&u=/ap/20040127/ap_on_go_ot/sept_11_commission" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Sept. 11 Panel Wants Extension on Report </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> An independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks says it can't finish its final report before late July, putting it at odds with House leaders [and the White House] who oppose a delay that would push the report's release closer to the November <font color="#ff0000"><b>s</b></font>-election. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-panel25jan25,1,3741553.story" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Give 9/11 Panel More Time</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> (Los Angeles Times) "The administration, which initially opposed the commission's creation but then endorsed it, has <b>hampered its research and insists on shortening its life span from 24 months</b>, as originally proposed by Congress, to 18 months. This timetable raises questions of <b>cynical political calculation</b> — whether the administration really wants to know what went awry in the past to fix it or whether it just wants to get any damaging revelations out well before the fall presidential campaign heats up... The commission only recently received copies of the 'president[sic]'s daily brief,' crafted by the CIA. <font color="#ff0000"><b>These files could reveal whether President [sic] Bush had been warned before 9/11 of the possibility of terrorist attacks using commercial planes</b></font>." </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,1130338,00.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">German trial hears how Iranian agent warned US of impending al-Qaida attack </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> <b>The United States was warned of impending September 11 terrorist attacks by an Iranian spy</b>, but ignored him, German secret service agents testified yesterday in the trial of an alleged al-Qaida terrorist. </font></p> <p align="left"><b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36876-2004Jan21.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Justice Department Investigating Leak of Classified NSA Material Regarding Sept. 11 Attacks </font></a></b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Probe of Intercepted Messages Focuses on Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.) The investigation centers on the disclosure in 2002 that the <font color="#ff0000"><b> National Security Agency had intercepted two messages on the eve of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks signaling that something was to happen the next day</b></font>. The cryptic messages were not translated until Sept. 12.</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3417809.stm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">New evidence halts 9/11 verdict</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> A German court has agreed to allow a new prosecution witness in the trial of an 11 September suspect which appeared to have all but crumbled last month. The dramatic move has delayed the verdict in the case of Abdelghani Mzoudi which was expected this week. Prosecutors gave no details of the new witness but Mr Mzoudi's defence lawyer, Guel Pinar, said the witness was an unidentified Iranian intelligence officer who was claiming to have <b>informed US authorities of an <font color="#ff0000">impending attack</font> before September 2001</b>. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A28025-2004Jan18" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 Panel Unlikely to Get Later Deadline</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> <b><font color="#ff0000">Hearings Being Scaled Back</font> to Finish Work by May </b>--Dictator Bush and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Nutball-Ill.) have decided to oppose granting more time to an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, virtually guaranteeing that the panel will have to complete its work by the end of May, officials said last week. <b>A growing number of commission members had concluded that the panel needs more time to prepare a thorough and credible accounting of missteps</b> leading to the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. But the White House and leading Republicans have informed the panel that they oppose any delay, which raises the possibility that <b> <font color="#ff0000">Sept. 11-related controversies</font> could emerge during the heat of the presidential campaign</b>, sources said. <b>[Hmm... what 'Sept. 11-related controversies could they possibly be referring to? That 'Bush knew'?] </b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040115-024012-7011r" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 director gave evidence to own inquiry</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The panel set up to investigate why the United States failed to prevent the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, faced angry questions Thursday after revelations that two of its own senior officials were so closely involved in the events under investigation that they have been interviewed as part of the inquiry. Philip Zelikow, the commission's executive director, <b>worked on the Bush-Cheney transition team</b> as the new dictatorship took power <b>[literally, *<i>took</i>* power]</b>, <b>advising his longtime associate and former boss, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice</b> , on the incoming National Security Council. </font></p> <p align="left"><b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A18261-2004Jan14" target="display"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">FBI Chief Says Tribunals May Try 9/11 Suspects</font></a></b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The director of the FBI said yesterday that he expects the accused conspirators in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, including alleged mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed, to be <b><font color="#ff0000">tried by military tribunals rather than by criminal courts </font></b>. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/01/14/sept11.records/index.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Victims' families renew request for 9/11 records</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Families of victims of the World Trade Center terrorist attack said Wednesday they will go back to court to find out more about the final hours of their relatives' lives on September 11, 2001. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9669-2004Jan12.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Supreme Court Allows Secrecy of 9/11 Detainees</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><b><font color="#ff0000">in</font>Justices let stand lower ruling, opting not to consider civil liberties, freedom of information issues.</b> <font color="#ff0000"><b>The Supreme Court today allowed the Bush dictatorship to withhold the names and whereabouts of hundreds of people seized in the United States by the government </b></font> in the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington. [Click <a href="http://news.findlaw.com/wp/docs/doj/cnssdoj120501cmp.pdf" target="display">here</a> (.pdf) for original 'Complaint For Injunctive Relief' filed against the Department of Justice, December 5, 2001.] </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/13/politics/13SCOT.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">inJustices Uphold Policy of Silence on 9/11 Detainees </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The Supreme Court on Monday turned down an appeal challenging the secrecy surrounding the <font color="#ff0000"><b>arrest and detention of hundreds of people </b></font>, nearly all Muslim men, in the weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. </font></p> <p align="left"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3937711/" target="display">Supreme Court Upholds Secret Detentions</a></font></b> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" color="#ff0000" size="2"> <b>in</b></font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><b>Justices decline to hear challenge to post-9/11 jailings </b>The U.S. Whore High Court on Monday allowed the Bush dictatorship to <font color="#ff0000"><b> keep secret</b></font> the names and other basic details about hundreds of people questioned and detained or arrested after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/154067p-135566c.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Bush wants delay of 9-11 report until after 2004 <font color="#ff0000"> s</font>-election</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Federal 9/11 commission spokesman Alvin Felzenberg said that because of alleged <b>stonewalling by the Bush dictatorship and by [Bush's New York Poodle] Michael Bloomberg's office </b>, some commissioners want to extend their probe past the May deadline for the final report, while others are against any extension. <b>The White House proposed greenlighting the extension if the commission would agree to </b><font color="#ff0000"><b>release the report after the November election</b></font>, but then officials pulled back the offer, Newsweek reported yesterday. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/0104/12attacks.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Sept. 11 commission will request Bush, Clinton to meet with panel</font> </b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The federal Sept. 11 commission has formally decided to ask Dictator Bush and former President Bill Clinton to meet with the panel and to extend its investigation by several months. </font> <p align="left"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><a href="http://septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2004-01-04-groundzero.php" target="display">NYC 9-11 Truth Takes Back Ground Zero</a></font></b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --by Michael Kane --<a href="http://septembereleventh.org">septembereleventh.org</a>, Jan 12, 2004 <b>"Overwhelming Majority of New Yorkers Supports the Truth Movement!</b> Police illegally and forcibly move two people holding a sign NYC calls for International Day of Solidarity – Every Saturday of Every Week! Respectful Dialogue on the Streets of NYC Where's a Respectable Memorial for those who died at Ground Zero? The NYC Truth Movement permanently, and completely, took back Ground Zero from the Neo-Conservative false-patriotic agenda. In true New York fashion, 911 Truth activists unveiled the now legendary banner, which read, ' <b>THE BUSH REGIME ENGINEERED 9-11</b>' in front of the World Trade Center footprint." </font> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><b><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/11/nyregion/11TAPE.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display">Judges Order City to Release More Records About 9/11 </a></b> A state appeals court has ordered New York City to grant expanded public access to records about its response to the terrorist attack of Sept. 11, 2001. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,565974,00.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Condi and the 9/11 Commission</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Poised to convene its first hard-hitting hearings in January, the <b>federal commission investigating the 9/11 attacks continues to be at odds with the White House over access to key information and witnesses</b>. Two government sources tell TIME that National Security Adviser <b>[and Reichwing whackjob]</b> Condoleezza Rice is arguing over ground rules for her appearance in part because she does not want to testify under oath or, according to one source, in public.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.silive.com/search/index.ssf?/base/opinion/1072016169266480.xml" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Democratic presidential candidates take up the cry from 9/11 activists </font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><b>White House stonewalling August, 2001 briefing fuels suspicions</b> --<font color="#ff0000"><b>Bush knew?</b></font> Former Vermont Gov. and current presidential candidate Howard Dean is just the latest Democratic critic of Dictator Bush to suggest that <b><font color="#ff0000">he had foreknowledge of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks</font></b>. </font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">***** </font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/17/eveningnews/main589137.shtml" target="display"><b>9/11 Chair: Attack Was Preventable</b></a> For the first time, the chairman of the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks is saying publicly that <b>9/11 could have and should have been prevented</b>.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2003/12/91767.php" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">The North Tower's Dust Cloud</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> <b>Analysis of Energy Requirements for the Expansion of the Dust Cloud following the Collapse of 1 World Trade Center</b> --by Jim Hoffman, October 16th, 2003 Abstract: "This paper uses photographic evidence -- primarily a reference photograph taken from FEMA's report -- to estimate the volume of the dust cloud that grew from the collapse of the North Tower at about 30 seconds after the commencement of the collapse. The paper then estimates the thermal energy required to produce the observed expansion in the volume of the dust cloud, based on the assumption that most of the gasses and suspended solids in the <b>cloud originated from within the building</b>." </font></p> <p align="left"><b><a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/120403mariani.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">911 Victim's Wife, Ellen Mariani, Files RICO Act</font></a></b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> (<a href="http://prisonplanet.com">prisonplanet.com</a>) (Press Release/Alex Jones interviews Ellen Mariani) "Philip J. Berg, Esquire, announced today that he, attorney for Ellen Mariani, wife of Louis Neil Mariani, who died when United Air Lines flight 175 was flown into the South Tower of the World Trade Center on 9-11 at a news conference regarding the filing of a detailed Amended Complaint in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania on 11/26/03 in the case of Mariani vs. Bush et al that he is alleging President [sic] Bush and officials including, but not limited to Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld and Feinberg that they: 1. had <b>knowledge/warnings of 911 and failed to warn or take steps to prevent</b>; 2. have been <b>covering up the truth of 911</b>; and 3. have therefore <b>violated the laws of the United States</b>; and 4. are <font color="#ff0000"> <b>being sued under the Civil RICO Act</b></font>. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/04/national/04PANE.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Mayor Agrees to Allow Panel to Examine Sept. 11 Records </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> In an abrupt reversal, Bush Poodle Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York City announced on Wednesday that he had agreed to release records of emergency 911 calls and other materials sought by the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Mr. Bloomberg's action comes nearly two weeks after the commission announced that it had <b>issued a subpoena to New York City</b> for records related to the attacks. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031121_736.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">NYC to Challenge 9/11 Commission Subpoena</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> <b>NYC to Challenge 9/11 Commission Subpoena Seeking Documents Detailing City's Response at WTC</b> --Citing 'privacy of Sept. 11 victims' <b>[???!!!]</b>, Bush poodle Mayor Michael Bloomberg vowed to fight a federal commission's subpoena seeking documents that detail the city's response at the World Trade Center. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/20/national/20CND-TERR.html?position=&pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 Commission Orders New York to Hand Over Documents </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 terror attacks announced today that it had subpoenaed New York City for a variety of police tapes and other material about the attacks. It said that the city's refusal to hand over the material had " <b>significantly impeded the commission's investigation</b>." </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=533&e=5&u=/ap/20031121/ap_on_re_us/sept_11_commission" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9-11 Panel Presses NYC for Documents </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> A federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks has voted to <font color="#ff0000"><b>subpoena documents</b></font> New York has failed to hand over related to the city's response to the World Trade Center attack. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20031113/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/sept_11_bush_14" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> Families of Sept. 11 Victims Criticize Deal Between White House, Commission</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> Relatives of people who perished in the Sept. 11 attacks say a federal commission accepted too many conditions in striking a deal with the White House over access to secret intelligence documents. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=3827908" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Judge Rules Top Saudis Cannot Be Sued for 9/11 </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> A U.S. judge has dismissed claims against two high-ranking Saudi officials in a lawsuit filed by victims and survivors of the Sept. 11 attacks.</font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1068765012596&call_pageid=968332188854&col=968350060724" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> What did Bush know before 9/11 attacks?</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><b>Briefing notes may hold key to crucial question Panel member decries limited access to papers</b> --In capital shorthand, they are known as PDBs, and they may hold the key to one of the great unanswered questions of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. <b>Did U.S. Dictator George W. Bush <font color="#ff0000">receive — and ignore — </font>advance warning of a plan by Al Qaeda to hijack passenger planes and fly them into buildings in the United States?</b></font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/14/national/14TERR.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Deal on 9/11 Briefings Lets White House Edit Papers </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> The commission investigating the Sept. 11 terror attacks said on Thursday that its deal with the White House for access to highly classified Oval Office intelligence reports would <b>let the White House edit the documents before they were released to the commission's representatives</b>.</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/4567.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">CIA denies seeking pact with bin Laden</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> The CIA rejected as fantasy claims it tried to negotiate a non-aggression pact with Osama bin Laden just two months before the September 11 attacks. Richard Labeviere, author of the Corridors of Terror, says the CIA's Dubai chief approached bin Laden while the al Qaeda leader was being treated for a kidney complaint in the United Arab <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Emirates.</font></font> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&e=2&u=/ap/20031107/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/sept__11_commission" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9-11 Commission Votes to Subpoena Pentagon </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> A federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks voted Friday to subpoena the Pentagon for documents related to the activities of U.S. air defenses on the day of the terrorist hijackings. The FAA knew that Los Angeles-bound Flight 77 left its course at <b>8:55 a.m</b>., commission member Richard Ben-Veniste said, but NORAD did not get official notice of a hijacking until <b>9:24 a.m. [<font color="#ff0000">Quick action!</font> Sign <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html" target="display"> Petition to Senate to Investigate Oddities of 9/11</a>, with over 21,950 signatures.]</b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=4&u=/nm/20031108/ts_nm/security_subpoena_dc" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 Commission to Subpoena NORAD Information </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The national commission investigating the Sept. 11 hijacked plane attacks decided on Friday to subpoena the military's North American Aerospace Defense Command records for information it promised but did not deliver. "The commission has encountered some serious delays in obtaining needed documents from the Department of Defense," the panel said in a statement. " <b>We are especially dismayed by problems in the production of the records of activities of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and certain Air Force commands on September 11, 2001</b>," it said. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/07/national/07TERR.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9/11 Panel May Reject Offer of Limited Access to Briefings </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The White House has offered to provide a federal commission with limited access to Oval Office intelligence reports regarding the Sept. 11 terror attacks, but some members of the panel have described the offer as inadequate and are renewing the threat of a subpoena, commission officials said on Thursday. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/26/national/26KEAN.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Dictatorship Faces Subpoenas From 9/11 Panel </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> The chairman of the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks said that the <font color="#ff0000"><b>White House was continuing to withhold several highly classified intelligence documents </b></font> from the panel and that he was prepared to subpoena the documents if they were not turned over within weeks. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/10/17/wvonb17.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/10/17/ixworld.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Former German cabinet minister: US plotted Sept 11 </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> A former cabinet minister is drawing huge crowds and stoking the fires of anti-Americanism in Germany with a book arguing that the <font color="#ff0000"><b>US government mounted the Sept 11 attacks as part of a plot to win global domination </b></font>. Andreas von Bülow has gone even further than Michael Meacher, Britain's former environment minister, who claims the US knowingly failed to prevent the attacks. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031015/ap_on_re_us/sept_11_commission_19" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Sept. 11 Panel Votes to Subpoena FAA </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The independent commission studying the Sept. 11 attacks has voted to subpoena the Federal Aviation Administration, ordering the agency to hand over documents for the investigation. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/16/politics/16TERR.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Commission on 9/11 Attacks Issues Subpoena to the F.A.A. </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The federal commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks announced on Wednesday that it had issued its first subpoena, to the Federal Aviation Administration, after discovering that the <font color="#ff0000"><b>agency had withheld a variety of tapes and documents</b></font><b> that were "highly material to our inquiry</b>."</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://asia.news.yahoo.com/031016/3/1625q.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Clinton says he warned Bush of bin Laden threat</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Former President Bill Clinton warned Dictator George W. Bush before he left office in 2001 that Osama bin Laden was the biggest security threat the United States faced, Clinton said on Wednesday. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9-11 Probe Continues to Bypass Executive Branch Testimony </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --by Tom Flocco "[The] Commission has not compelled three individuals having most power to affect immediate action on 9-11 to explain their failure to defend America. All three remained in offices and an elementary classroom while four planes crashed. This, despite having 25 minutes advance notice from Secret Service, Pentagon, and air traffic controllers prior to first crash--But also <b>a full summer of frantic but now classified briefings about 'Planes Used As Weapons To Crash Into Buildings,' thus permitting White House to shield its prior-knowledge</b>." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_3205.shtml" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">9-11 Panel Director May Have Conflict of Interest</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The families of some of the victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, suicide hijackings are calling for the staff director of the commission set up to investigate the attacks to be removed from a large part of the inquiry. They say he has a conflict of interest in investigating the National Security Council, because of his <b>previous relationship with national security adviser Condoleezza Rice</b>. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9115,1056502,00.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Why isn't the truth out there?</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The willingness of journalists to accepts the establishment's view of the events of, and after, 9/11 is truly staggering, says Paul Donovan "...At 9.35 one of the hijacked planes does a 360 degree turn over the Pentagon, all the while being tracked by radar. ' <b>The Pentagon is not evacuated, and there are still no fast movers from the Air Force in the sky over Alexandria and DC</b>,' says [retired US army veteran Stan] Goff. This is the staggering story of the events of 9/11. <b>No reasons have been given for the Bush administration's conduct on that day, no one has been brought to account</b>. Yet from the tragedy that was 9/11 Bush has been able to deliver for his backers in the arms and oil industries." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030930/pl_nm/attack_inquiry_dc_1" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">White House Not to Declassify More of 9/11 Report </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> The White House has said it will not declassify further parts of a congressional report on intelligence failures related to the Sept. 11 attacks, <b>including details of <font color="#ff0000">possible foreign involvement in the plot</font>. [Why?!?]</b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/packages/sept11/anniversary/wire_stories/0903_plane_exercise.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> In what the government describes as a <font color="#ff0000"><b>bizarre coincidence </b></font><b>[???!!! "A *coincidence* is just a prematre fact."] </b>, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism -- it was to be a simulated accident.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://memes.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1996&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> 911 cell phone calls impossible</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> --by electrostatic "An experiment was conducted to see if cell phones can work in airplanes. The experiment found that the percent of success rate of contact was: 89% at 2,000 feet 44% at 4,000 feet 30% at 6,000 feet 9% at 8,000 feet Flight 93 was flying at 35,000 feet. A connection would have been impossible." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Hijack 'suspects' alive and well</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> (Sept. 23, 2001) Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well. The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt. </font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><a href="http://legitgov.org/FCCfailure_092203.html"><b>NO Alert Issued on 9-11 (by FCC) as (p)Resident Didn't Order One!</b></a><b> </b>--by Mary Titus, a <b>CLG <font color="#ff0000">exclusive </font></b>"'In response to your questions, (1) <b>the EAS system was not activated on 9/11/01</b>. (2) <b>a decision to activate EAS would be made by the president</b> (for national level) or by the affected state (for state level), or by local authorities, so the FCC has no information on why EAS was not used that day.'" </font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/6799277.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Deutsch, Wexler seek probe into Saudi flights</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Two Democratic House members from South Florida, Peter Deutsch and Robert Wexler, are calling for an investigation into how Bush regime officials allowed about 140 Saudi nationals to leave the country in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. <b> At a time when all private aviation was grounded</b>, top officials allowed charter flights to pick up Saudis around the country and then leave for Saudi Arabia. <b>The group included some members of the royal family and some <font color="#ff0000">relatives of Osama bin Laden</font></b>.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/output/terror/cst-fin-fbi19.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">FBI closes investigation on pre-911 stock and option trading</font></b> </a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> After the 9-11 attacks, in which terrorists commandeered planes owned by the two biggest airlines, United and American, traders in the Chicago options market noticed <b> suspicious pre-Sept. 11 spikes in volume</b>. Put options for stocks in the airlines' parent companies, UAL Corp. and AMR Corp., <b>registered huge trading increases in the week before the attacks</b>. Investors can use puts, which confer the right to sell a stock at a pre-determined price, to make money when the underlying share price falls, similar to shorting a stock. The terrorist attacks and their effect on the travel industry caused shares of UAL and AMR to fall dramatically when the markets reopened Sept. 17. FBI spokesman Ed Cogswell said most of the options trading was carried out by hedge funds with bearish outlooks. <font color="#ff0000"><b>He did not name any of the funds</b></font>, which pursue risky investment strategies on behalf of wealthy clients. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/09/17/wtc.investigation/index.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">WTC investigators want to speak with 9/11 survivors</font> </b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> A federal group investigating the collapse of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, announced Wednesday it is seeking information from individuals who were inside the Twin Towers that day, or who were in contact with friends and relatives in the buildings. </font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><b>[Yes, over two years later, what a good idea to look into all of this... sarcasm <font color="#ff0000">ON</font>.]</b></font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/6742902.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Why Don't We Have Answers To These 9/11 Questions?</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --by William Bunch "...Why did President [sic] Bush continue reading a story to Florida grade-schoolers for nearly a half-hour during the worst attack on America in its history? ...In the two years since the attacks, questions have only grown about the president[sic]'s bizarre behavior that morning, when he was informed in a Sarasota classroom that America was under attack... <font color="#ff0000"><b>Why did Bush read a children's story about a pet goat and stay in the classroom for more than a half-hour after the first plane struck the World Trade Center and roughly 15 minutes after Chief of Staff Andrew Card told him that it had been a deliberate attack? </b></font>Why didn't he take more decisive action, and why wasn't he hustled to a secure area while the attacks were clearly still under way? <b>Conspiracy advocates have cited these strange lapses as evidence that <font color="#ff0000"> Bush knew about the attacks ahead of time</font>, but why would anyone with advance knowledge appear so clueless?</b> <b>[*See: <a href="http://ecclesia.org/lawgiver/911.asp" target="display"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The obscure goat story of 9-11</font></a>]</b></font></p> <p align="left"><b><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51669-2003Sep9.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Prelude to 9/11 Still a Mystery</font></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> FBI and congressional investigators are still deeply divided over whether hijackers got help from inside U.S.</font></b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Two years after the September 11 terrorist attacks, FBI and congressional investigators remain deeply divided over whether the 19 hijackers <b>received help from other al Qaeda operatives [or others] inside the United States</b> and still are unable to answer some of the central questions in the case. The uncertainties persist despite the largest FBI investigation in U.S. history and raise the possibility that <b>Americans will never know precisely how the conspirators were able to pull off the most devastating terrorist attacks in U.S. history</b>.</font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><a href="http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/comment/0,12956,1036687,00.html" target="display"><b>This war on terrorism is bogus</b></a> <b>The 9/11 attacks gave the US an ideal pretext to use force to secure its global domination </b> --by Michael Meacher "The first hijacking was suspected at not later than 8.20am, and the last hijacked aircraft crashed in Pennsylvania at 10.06am. Not a single fighter plane was scrambled to investigate from the US Andrews airforce base, just 10 miles from Washington DC, until after the third plane had hit the Pentagon at 9.38 am. Why not? ...<b>Or could US air security operations have been <font color="#ff0000">deliberately stood down</font> on September 11? If so, why, and on whose authority?</b> ...[T]he PNAC [Project for the New American Century] blueprint of September 2000 states that the process of transforming the US into 'tomorrow's dominant force' is likely to be a long one in the absence of 'some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor'. <b>The 9/11 attacks allowed the US to press the 'go' button for a strategy in accordance with the PNAC agenda which it would otherwise have been politically impossible to implement.</b>"</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,1036591,00.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Meacher sparks fury over claims on September 11 and Iraq war </font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"><b>Fury over [<font color="#ff0000">the truth about</font>] Meacher claims</b> --Michael Meacher, who served as a minister for six years until three months ago, today goes further than any other mainstream British politician in <b>blaming the Iraq war on a US desire for domination of the Gulf and the world</b>. Mr Meacher also claims in an article in today's Guardian that the <b>war on terrorism is a smokescreen and that the US knew in advance about the September 11 attack on New York but, for strategic reasons, chose not to act on the warnings </b>... The US government last night expressed abhorrence at Mr Meacher's views. An embassy spokesman in London said: "Mr Meacher's fantastic allegations - especially his assertion that the<font color="#ff0000"><b> US government knowingly stood by while terrorists killed some 3,000 innocents in New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia </b></font> - would be monstrous, and monstrously offensive <b>[just like Bush himself]</b>, if they came from someone serious or credible."</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/04/politics/04SAUD.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">White House Approved Departure of Saudis After Sept. 11, Ex-Aide Says </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> Top White House officials personally approved the evacuation of dozens of influential Saudis, <font color="#ff0000"><b>including relatives of Osama bin Laden </b></font>, from the United States in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks when most flights were still grounded, a former White House adviser said today. The statements by former White House adviser, Richard Clarke, are the <b><font color="#ff0000">first acknowledgment that the White House had any direct involvement in the plan</font> and that senior regime officials personally signed off on it</b>. [</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html" target="display"><font size="2">Petition to Senate to Investigate Oddities of 9/11</font></a><font size="2"> </font></font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> surpasses <font color="#ff0000"><b>21,200 </b></font>signatures --please add yours!]</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.edinburghnews.com/index.cfm?id=971322003" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Bin Laden family's US exit 'approved'</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> The United States allowed members of Osama bin Laden's family to jet out of the US in the immediate aftermath of September 11, even as American airspace was closed. Former White House counter-terrorism tsar Richard Clarke said the Bush regime sanctioned the repatriation of about 140 high-ranking Saudi Arabians, including relatives of the al-Qaida chief. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/030908/usnews/8sept11.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">A top-secret conference call on 9-11 could shed new light on the terrorist attacks </font></b></a> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" color="#ff0000" size="2"><b>--Shoot-down order.</b></font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">The transcript may also shed light on the military's response to <b> <font color="#ff0000">Dictator Bush's unprecedented order to shoot down any hijacked civilian airplane</font>. Pentagon sources say Bush communicated the order to Cheney almost immediately after Flight 77 hit the Pentagon </b> and the FAA, for the first time ever, ordered all domestic flights grounded. "There are unanswered questions," says Richard Ben-Veniste, a commission member and former federal prosecutor, as to <b>whether the shoot-down order "had been rehearsed for </b>, whether it had been prepared for, and what measures were in place to protect the Capitol," believed to be the hijackers' original target for Flight 77. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200109/msg00162.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Terrorism escape clause in World Trade Center lease </font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> --by Norma Cohen, Property Correspondent, in London - Sep 14 2001 19:18:26 <a href="http://globalelements.ft.com/Common/Copyright/copyright_global.html" target="display"> FT.COM</a> "The owners of the demolished World Trade Center in lower Manhattan acquired the buildings just two months ago under a 99-year lease allowing them to <b>walk away from their investment in the event of 'an act of terrorism' </b>. The owners, Silverstein Properties and Westfield America - a shopping mall specialist - purchased the buildings from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey for $3.2bn in July and <b>completed the financing just two weeks ago </b>.</font>"</p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.expatica.com/germany.asp?pad=190,205,&item_id=33607" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">CIA 'had Sept 11 pilots on its files'</font></b></a><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2"> In its second revelation in as many weeks, the German magazine Stern reports in its latest issue that the Central Intelligence Agency CIA had two of the September 11 terror pilots on its files well ahead of the terror attacks. In its edition to appear on Thursday, Stern said that in addition to Marwan Alshehhi, <b>the CIA also must have known that Lebanese national Ziad Jarrah was connected to el-Qaeda but that the <font color="#ff0000">US let him enter the country anyway for pilot training</font></b>. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=20572" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">The Mystery of the WTC Collapse</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Skydrifter "The more one reads about the WTC collapse, the more skeptical they should become of the "official" account. The following presentation is speculation, but well worth thinking about..." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://new.globalfreepress.com/article.pl?sid=03/07/31/0343211" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">WTC-7: The Improbable Collapse</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Scott Loughrey "Mysteries abound about World Trade Center 7's (WTC-7) demise on September 11. In the early evening in the Big Apple of that horrific day this 47-story steel building suddenly collapsed. An odd series of failures had occurred." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.lowcountrynow.com/stories/080103/LOCrose.shtml" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Arrogance, or something darker?</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by John David Rose " <b>If you want to know why 9/11 was allowed to happen you may not have to look any further than the Oval Office</b>... A little more than a month before the attack, in his Aug. 6 daily intelligence briefing, Bush was 'told that morning of the al-Qaida terror network's interest in conducting a strike within the U.S., and that it might involve highjacked airplanes,' reports the Wall Street Journal (7/24/03.) <b>Why didn't he order airlines to be alerted, inform the Federal Aviation Administration of the threat, put the military air commands on a high level of readiness and tell the FBI, CIA and INS to be super vigilant? </b> He brushed the warning aside. 'Nine months before 9/11 the Clinton administration had a bold plan to attack al-Qaida,' wrote Time magazine (8/12/02) before it could attack us. <font color="#ff0000"><b>Weakened by the impeachment battle </b></font><b>, Clinton put the plan on hold as a courtesy to the incoming Bush</b>. In January 2001, the Clinton security team attempted to brief incoming Bush officials of the al-Qaida threat and the plan. Again they were given the brushoff." <b>[A must-read. A mainstream American newspaper publishes this editorial, which concludes, in part, "Here's the chilling kicker: To convince the American people to spend extra billions for defense instead of on Social Security, Medicare, etc., PNAC suggested it would take a <font color="#ff0000">'catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor.' </font>(PNAC's exact words.)"] </b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0332/mondo4.php" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Bush's 9-11 Secrets</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>The Government Received Warnings of Bin Laden's Plans to Attack New York and D.C.</b> --by James Ridgeway "Even though Bush has refused to make parts of the 9-11 report public, one thing is startlingly clear: The U.S. government had received repeated warnings of impending attacks—and attacks using planes directed at New York and Washington—for several years. The government never told us about what it knew was coming." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/30/graham.intel.report/index.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">GOP senator joins push to declassify 9/11 report</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" color="#ff0000" size="2"> <b>Bush rejects calls for release of information</b></font> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>[WHY??]</b> --An influential Republican senator has joined Democrats in pushing for the release of a 28-page section of the congressional report on the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks allegedly dealing with Saudi Arabia's ties to the hijackers. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20030729.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">The 9/11 Report Raises More Serious Questions About The White House Statements On Intelligence</font> </b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by John W. Dean "Bluntly stated, either the<b> <font color="#ff0000">Bush White House knew about the potential of terrorists flying airplanes into skyscrapers</font> </b>(notwithstanding their claims to the contrary), or the CIA failed to give the White House this essential information, which it possessed and provided to others. Bush is withholding the document that answers this question. Accordingly, it seems more likely that the former possibility is the truth. That is, it seems very probable that <b><font color="#ff0000">those in the White House knew much more than they have admitted</font></b>, and they are covering up their failure to take action. The facts, however, speak for themselves." </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Supressed Details of Criminal Insider Trading Lead Directly into the CIA's Highest Ranks</font> </b></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>CIA Executive Director "Buzzy" Krongard managed firm that handled "PUT" options on United Airlines Stock</b> --by Michael C. Ruppert (<a href="http://www.fromthewilderness.com/" target="display"> From The Wilderness</a>, October 9, 2001) "Although uniformly ignored by the mainstream U.S. media, there is abundant and clear evidence that a number of transactions in financial markets indicated specific (criminal) foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. In the case of at least one of these trades -- which has left a <b>$2.5 million prize unclaimed</b> -- the firm used to place the 'put options' on United Airlines stock was, until 1998, managed by the man who is now in the number three Executive Director position at the Central Intelligence Agency." </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/2018235" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Bush rejects pleas by Saudi, senators to unseal 9/11 info</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Dictator Bush Tuesday resisted an urgent plea from Saudi Arabia and bipartisan pressure from U.S. lawmakers to release a classified section of a congressional report on the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, saying that revealing the contents would expose intelligence methods and aid terrorists. </font> <p align="left"><b><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&ncid=536&e=1&u=/ap/20030729/ap_on_go_pr_wh/attacks_intelligence" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2">Bush Won't Declassify Entire 9-11 Report </font></a></b><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Dictator Bush refused Tuesday to declassify part of a congressional report on possible links between Saudi government officials and the Sept. 11 hijackers, saying that "<b> would help the enemy</b>" <b>[and hurt his re-<font color="#ff0000">s</font>-election chances]</b> by revealing intelligence sources and methods. <b>[Click <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html" target="display"> here</a> to sign 'Petition to the Senate to Investigate Oddities Involving 9/11 Terrorist Attacks', nearing 21,000 signatures.]</b></font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/29/international/middleeast/29WIRE-SAUD.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">White House Says Part of 9/11 Report on Saudis Will Stay Secret </font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The White House, facing a crucial meeting Tuesday with Saudi Arabia's foreign minister, refused to declassify part of an intelligence report on possible links between individuals in the Saudi government and some of the Sept. 11 hijackers. Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., a presidential candidate and the co-chairman of a congressional committee investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, called on Monday for Bush to declassify a section of the 900-page congressional report dealing with foreign support for the hijackers. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/7/26/135451" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Saudis Urge Release of Redacted 9/11 Report</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Saudi Arabia's state-run English language newspaper Arab News is calling on the Bush dictatorship to release the full congressional report on the 9/11 attacks, including a controversial <b>28-page section redacted at the White House's insistence </b> that reportedly portrays Riyadh as aiding and abetting the 9/11 hijackers. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/26/national/26SAUD.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Classified Section of Sept. 11 Report Faults Saudi Rulers</font> </b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Senior officials of Saudi Arabia have funneled hundreds of millions of dollars to charitable groups and other organizations that may have helped finance the September 2001 attacks, a still-classified section of a Congressional report on the hijackings says, according to people who have read it. The 28-page section of the report was <font color="#ff0000"><b>deleted</b></font></font> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>[Why?]</b> from the nearly 900-page declassified version released on Thursday by a joint committee of the House and Senate intelligence committees. </font> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>[Why did the US bomb Afghanistan?]</b></font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43291-2003Jul24.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">White House, CIA Kept Key Portions of Report Classified</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"> <b>Dictator Bush was warned in a more specific way than previously known about intelligence suggesting that al Qaeda terrorists were seeking to attack the United States</b>, a report on the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks indicated yesterday. Separately, the report cited one CIA memo that concluded there was "incontrovertible evidence" that Saudi individuals provided financial assistance to al Qaeda operatives in the United States <b>[WHY did the US bomb Afghanistan???]</b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L23109558.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Poll shows many Germans see U.S. behind Sept 11</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Almost one in three Germans below the age of 30 believes the U.S. government may have sponsored the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington, according to a poll published on Wednesday.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.presseportal.de/story.htx?nr=465778" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Jeder Dritte vermutet hinter 11. September Regierungs-Verschwörung</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Fast jeder dritte Deutsche unter 30 hält es für möglich, dass die amerikanische Regierung die Terroranschläge vom 11. September 2001 selber in Auftrag gegeben hat. Das ergab eine repräsentative Umfrage der Wochenzeitung DIE ZEIT. [Translation: <b> Every third German assumes government conspiracy behind September 11 </b>--Almost one third of Germans under thirty holds it probable that the American administration itself had given the order for the September 11th terrorist attacks. Those were the results of a representative poll by the weekly magazine, <i>Die Zeit</i> (trans: The Time).] </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,258299,00.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Jeder Fünfte glaubt an US-Verschwörung</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Wer steckt hinter den Terroranschlägen vom 11. September 2001? War es wirklich Osama Bin Ladens Terror-Organisation Qaida? Etliche Bundesbürger vermuten, dass die US-Regierung die Anschläge in Auftrag gegeben haben könnte. [Translation: <b>One in five asks if a US conspiracy was behind the terrorist attacks from September 11, 2001?</b> Was it really Osama Bin Laden's Terrorist Organization, Al Qaida? Some officials think that the the US Government could have made attempts [to stop the attacks] earlier.] </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/941425.asp?cp1=1" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Exclusive: The 9-11 Report: Slamming the FBI</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Bush dictatorship has refused to declassify many key passages of the committees' findings. A 28-page section of the report dealing with the Saudis and other foreign governments will be deleted. " <b>They are protecting a foreign government</b>," charged Sen. Bob Graham, who oversaw the inquiry. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=18&u=/ap/20030715/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/moussaoui_witness_16" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">U.S. Refuses to Provide Moussaoui Witness </font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The inJustice Department acknowledges its defiance of a judge's order may cause dismissal of charges against accused Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui, but says it won't produce an al-Qaida prisoner for questioning by the defendant. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/15/politics/15SUSP.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">U.S. Will Defy Court's Order in Terror Case</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"> The inJustice Department said today that it would <b>defy a court order</b> and refuse to make a captured member of Al Qaeda available for testimony in the case of Zacarias Moussaoui. The department acknowledged that its decision could force a federal judge to dismiss the indictment against Mr. Moussaoui, the only person facing trial in the United States in connection with the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Bush dictatorship officials have said for months that if Mr. Moussaoui's indictment were dismissed, <b>his prosecution would almost certainly be moved to a <font color="#ff0000">military tribunal</font></b>.</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/07/14/moussaoui/index.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Justice refuses to let Moussaoui call witness</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> <b>Denial of access to Binalshibh could lead to dismissal</b> --The Justice Department refused a federal judge's order to allow terrorism suspect Zacarias Moussaoui access to a captured al Qaeda leader Monday, citing 'national security' <b>[?!?]</b> concerns.</font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uscomm103365884jul10,0,3859834.story" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Schumer: Tactics Are 'Stalinist' </font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Sen. Charles Schumer accused the Bush dictatorship yesterday of using "<b><font color="#ff0000">Stalinist</font></b>" tactics by requiring overseers to sit in when federal employees are interviewed by an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks. " <font color="#ff0000"><b>Gatekeepers usually occur in places with totalitarian regimes</b></font>," the New York Democrat said at a news conference yesterday. "<b>Stalinist Russia was known for that</b>." </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.berkshireeagle.com/Stories/0,1413,101%257E6267%257E1506312,00.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Why does 9/11 inquiry scare Bush?</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> (The Berkshire Eagle) "The Bush administration has never wanted an inquiry into the intelligence and law-enforcement failures that led up to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and it is doing its best to make sure we never get one... The parallel to Saddam Hussein's refusal to let Iraqi scientists talk to U.N. weapons inspectors without a similar monitor is too glaring to miss and <b>begs the obvious question</b>: <font color="#ff0000"><b>What has Mr. Bush got to hide?</b></font>" </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-07-13-911-families-cover-usat_x.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Some 9/11 families reject federal fund and sue</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The U.S. government made two promises to the families of those who died in the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks: A special Justice Department fund would compensate their financial losses and official investigations would <b> uncover the security failures</b> that enabled al-Qaeda to kill 3,027 people.</font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/6269252.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">U.S. report on 9/11 to be 'explosive'</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"> <b>Government errors, Saudi ties to terrorists among highlights</b> --A long-awaited final report on the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks will be released in the next two weeks, containing new information about U.S. government mistakes and Saudi financing of terrorists. Former Rep. Tim Roemer, who served on the House Intelligence Committee and who has read the report, said it will be '' <font color="#ff0000"><b>highly explosive</b></font>'' when it becomes public.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,994933,00.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">9/11 inquiry alleges witness intimidation</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A US panel investigating the September 11 terrorist attacks yesterday accused the Pentagon and the justice department of obstructing the inquiry and said witnesses were being intimidated. Steven Push, whose wife died on September 11 and who represents victims' families, said: " <b>I believe that there is stonewalling going on here</b>." He added: "<font color="#ff0000"><b>It's beginning to look like some type of a cover-up</b></font>."</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/08/politics/08CND-TERR.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">9/11 Commission Says U.S. Agencies Slow Its Inquiry</font> </b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 terror attacks said today that its work was being <b>hampered by the failure of executive branch agencies</b>, especially the Pentagon and the Justice Department, to respond quickly to requests for documents and testimony. The panel also said the failure of the Bush dictatorship to allow officials to be interviewed without the presence of government colleagues could <b>impede its investigation</b>, with the commission's chairman suggesting today that the situation amounted to "intimidation" of the witnesses.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB105761621655138900-H9jeoNplah2nZunbH6Gba2Gm4,00.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">White House Hurdles Delay 9/11 Commission Investigation </font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Documents and Interviews Are Subject Of Tense Talks as Tight Deadline Looms</b> --For the past seven months, the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, otherwise known as the 9/11 Commission, has been looking into the events leading up to the 2001 attacks. But so far the probers have made little progress. The commission is embroiled in tense negotiations over the level of access it will have to White House documents and the federal personnel it wants to interview. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030714-463061,00.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Quizzing Them on 9/11</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Bush and Clinton may be asked to meet with the independent commission investigating the terrorist attacks <b>[See "<a href="http://ecclesia.org/lawgiver/911.asp" target="display">The Obscure Goat Story of 9-11</a>". Bush can provide amusing details of his day, how he continued to read a story about a pet goat to elementary school students for approximately thirty minutes *after* he was notified by Andrew Card that America was under attack.] </b> Will Dictator Bush be summoned before the independent commission investigating 9/11? It now appears very likely.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.sierratimes.com/03/07/02/article_tro.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D "I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, a Christian and homeschool dad. It troubled me a great deal that we rushed off to war on the flimsiest of evidence. I considered various ways to provide a smoking gun of who and why Sept 11th happened. Astute observers noticed right away that <b>there were no Arabic sounding names on any of the flight manifests of the planes that 'crashed' on that day</b>."</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/128832_sept1130.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Tensions rise as report on 9/11 failures is due out</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A long-awaited report detailing intelligence failures leading up to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks could be released as early as next week, but it arrives amid rising political tensions and debates over declassifying sensitive material. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/manhattan/nyc-wtc0630,0,1194667.story" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Sept. 11 Families to Sue Port Authority</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Families of Sept. 11 victims will file a lawsuit Monday against the Port Authority to obtain greater public scrutiny in the rebuilding of the former World Trade Center site.</font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/bush-911.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9/11</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Russ Kick "In this footage obtained exclusively by <a href="http://www.thememoryhole.org/" target="display">The Memory Hole</a>, watch as the President [sic] of the United States sits and does nothing after learning that his country is under attack. Note: This is not the truncated, 2-minute footage that has been available for a year. This is a much longer version, never before seen by the public." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/931042.asp?0cv=CB10&cp1=1" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Spy planes grounded before Sept. 11</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Prowling the skies over Afghanistan in the months before Dictator Bush took office, unmanned and unarmed Predator drones proved to be one of America's major successes in its frustrating hunt for Osama bin Laden. But the promising aircraft <b>remained grounded under the new administration until after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks</b>, say current and former U.S. officials.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20030624/ap_on_go_pr_wh/terrorism_predator_plan_9" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Officials: U.S. Slow on Bin Laden Drones </font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> When Dictator Bush took office in January 2001, the White House was told that Predator drones had recently spotted Osama bin Laden as many as three times and officials were urged to arm the unmanned planes with missiles to kill the al-Qaida leader. <b>But the Bush regime failed to get drones back into the Afghan skies until after the Sept. 11 attacks</b> later that year, current and former U.S. officials say. <b>The disappearance in 2001 of U.S. Predators from the skies over Afghanistan is discussed in classified sections of Congress' report into pre-Sept. 11 intelligence failures </b> and is expected to be examined by an independent commission appointed by the dictator and Congress, officials said. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.unansweredquestions.net/timeline/2003/lavanguardia062203.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">The Plane that Crashed into the South Tower of the World Trade Center Shows Forms of an Unknown Origin </font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The mysterious reflections of 9/11 --by Eduardo Martín de Pozuelo "In the frozen images of various film shots of the final run of United Airlines flight 175, there are three strange shapes discernible, which the aeronautical experts consulted find difficult to explain... Boeing's department of commercial aviation, with headquarters in Seattle, examined the photographs for ten days and, having announced an explanation for the phenomenon, declined to make a statement on what it saw. Finally a spokesman stated that Boeing was unable to offer an opinion 'for security reasons' and because it had not officially participated in the investigation of the attacks." </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/06/18/911/index_np.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Bush's 9/11 coverup?</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Family members of victims of the terror attacks say the White House has smothered every attempt to get to the bottom of the outrageous intelligence failures that took place on its watch </b>. --by Eric Boehlert (<a href="http://Salon.com">Salon.com</a> feature) "While the administration of President [sic] George W. Bush is aggressively positioning itself as the world leader in the war on terrorism, some families of the Sept. 11 victims say that the facts increasingly contradict that script. The White House long opposed the formation of a blue ribbon Sept. 11 commission, some say, and even now that panel is underfunded and struggling to build momentum. And, they say, the administration is suppressing a 900-page congressional study, possibly out of fear that the findings will be politically damaging to Bush." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/6007737.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Long-delayed 9/11 panel report to be released soon</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> <b>After months of delay</b>, the congressional investigation into the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks has won some concessions from the Bush dictatorship and is much closer to releasing its final report, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Porter Goss said Tuesday. Sen. Bob Graham has accused the Bush dictatorship of holding back the report " <b>not for national security reasons but because they don't want the American people to see a coherent narrative of what happened</b>.'' Campaigning in Iowa recently, Graham said the regime was "<b>trying to cover up failures that occurred before Sept. 11 </b>.''</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/nation/5993628.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Bush trying to hide 9/11 information, Graham says</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Citing proposed changes in several sections of a report -- which was based on the congressional investigation he helped oversee as chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee --Florida Senator Bob Graham said on CNN's Late Edition that the Bush dictatorship was trying to <font color="#ff0000"><b>hide information</b></font> submitted in open session and, in some cases, reported in the media.''<b>That's not being done for any legitimate national security reasons,</b>'' Graham told CNN. " <b>It's being done because they don't want the American people to see a coherent narrative of what happened</b>.''</font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/06/01/1054406076608.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Al-Qaeda operatives may be in US, say officials</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"> <b>[Yes. They are in the White House. --Lori Price] </b>Shrewd recruiting of young militants has allowed al-Qaeda to re-establish itself in Osama bin Laden's homeland and around the world in preparation for new attacks on the United States and its allies. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20030530/5201146s.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Congress, White House clash over declassifying 9/11 report</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A behind-the-scenes dispute over how much the public should be allowed to see of a report on the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks could touch off a <b>constitutional confrontation between Congress and the White House</b>.</font> </p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://www.tomflocco.com/9-11_commission_Testimony_too_hot.htm" target="display"><b>9-11 Commission Testimony Too Hot To Be Under Oath</b></a> --by Tom Flocco "Curiously however, none of the testimony offered before the Commission was sworn under oath (either on Thursday or Friday); and the most critical statements concerning the 9/11 military response failures occurred on the morning prior to a long Memorial Day weekend when the public would not be paying attention. ...[Chairman Thomas Kean's Deputy for Communications Alvin S.] Felzenberg, a former Heritage Foundation fellow connected to the Bush 2000 presidential [sic] transition, who has also written for The Weekly Standard, told us <b>'We will not be swearing in witnesses during any [public or private] 9/11 testimony.'</b>" </font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/" target="display"><b>9/11: The American Connection</b></a> </font><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>New scandal spotlights terror flight school's hidden ties </b> --by Daniel Hopsicker "A controversy over the sudden closing of a flight school in Orlando in early March reveals a hidden connection between the bankruptcy in Orlando and the secretive organization which ran Huffman Aviation in Venice, the unacknowledged home base of Mohamed Atta and his Hamburg cadre during almost their entire time in the U.S."</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0305240139may24,1,2040719.story" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">9/11 panel told of cover-ups before attacks</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" color="#ff0000" size="2"> <b>Witnesses: U.S. suppressed warnings</b></font><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --The terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, were made possible by <b>gaping holes in airline security, <font color="#ff0000">government cover-ups </font> that prevented problems from being fixed and a failure to respond to a growing threat that terrorists might use airliners as weapons</b>, witnesses told an independent commission this week.</font> </p> <p align="left"><b><a href="http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-8/105375665482960.xml" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2">On 9/11, U.S. radar was facing wrong way</font></a></b><font face="Verdana" size="2"> 'Cold War vestige' guided air defenses --A top U.S. air defense official testified yesterday that an outdated "cold war" view of the world before the 9/11 attacks blinded the nation to mounting evidence that hijacked airliners were becoming the terrorist's weapon of choice. </font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://new.globalfreepress.com/article.pl?sid=03/05/26/0450229" target="display"><b>The Top 150 Subpoena list for the 911 Commission</b></a> (posted by ewing2001) "After the disaster of the first 4 days of the hearings of the 911 Commission, which included obvious lies on the Timeline, it became now very clear, that the 911Victims can't expect an honest investigation without help from 'outside'. The following list suggest therefore some witnesses, who might help in the investigation of Sep11th in plausible Subpoenas." </font></p> <p align="left"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Secrets: The CIA Web site acknowledges documents that Bush aides won't</font></b> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/917942.asp?cp1=1" target="display"> <b>Classified: Censoring the Report About 9-11?</b></a> Bush officials are refusing to permit the release of matters already in the public domain—including the existence of intelligence documents referred to on the CIA Web site. --Why is the Bush dictatorship blocking the release of an 800-page congressional report about 9-11? The bipartisan report deals with law-enforcement and intelligence failures that preceded the attacks. For months, congressional leaders and regime officials have battled over declassifying the document, preventing a public release once slated for this week. NEWSWEEK has learned new details about the dispute. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/output/greeley/cst-edt-greel23.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Bush answers on 9/11 overdue</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Andrew Greeley "...President [sic] Bush is not going to assume responsibility for the World Trade Center catastrophe. His political allies blame former President Bill Clinton (as they are blaming him three years later for the current recession). Moreover, Bush continues to stonewall attempts to set up an independent investigation of what went wrong, and continues to sit on the 900-page report prepared by a bipartisan congressional committee." </font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-commission21may21,1,4488837.story" target="display"><b>Declassify the 9/11 Report</b></a> (Lost Angeles Times) "...the Bush administration continues to block the release of last year's House-Senate 9/11 panel report. It raises the question: What's to hide? ..Far from trying to disseminate information, reviewers wanted to <i>reclassify</i> information already in the public domain, such as portions of the highly embarrassing July 10, 2001, 'Phoenix memo' by FBI Agent Kenneth Williams warning of Osama bin Laden followers attending U.S. flight schools. The logic is that because the memo was never officially declassified, it shouldn't be included in the 9/11 report... The reviewers' Kafkaesque thinking leaves the impression that the intelligence agencies are trying to evade public and congressional scrutiny." </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uscomm233297727may23,0,6546814.story" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">FAA Delay in Reporting 9/11 Hijackings Probed</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Commission also questions ex-chief on shooting report</b> --The independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks grilled the former chief federal aviation regulator yesterday in a tense public exchange over whether the <b>government bungled its response that day</b>.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1052251602426&call_page=TS_Columnists&call_pageid=970599109774&call_pagepath=Columnists" target="display"> <b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Barbs aside, 9/11 questions aren't going away</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Michele Landsberg "Why did the U.S. military, with the most powerful arsenal in world history, fail to prevent or at least try to stop a series of hijackings and crashes that went on for nearly two hours? Where was the Air Force? ...President [sic] Bush, or, as he delights to call himself, the commander-in-chief, must certainly have been briefed about the ominous drumbeat of terrorist threats that were accumulating over the spring and summer of 2001." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/15/international/worldspecial/15INTE.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Officials Who Failed to Put Hijackers on Watch List Not Named </font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Seven months after telling Congress he would do so, George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence, has yet to provide the names of agency officials responsible for <b> one of the most glaring intelligence mistakes leading up to the attacks of Sept. 11</b>, according to Congressional and agency officials. Soon after the attacks, the mistake emerged, showing that the <b>Central Intelligence Agency had waited 20 months before placing on a federal watch list two suspected terrorists who wound up as hijackers </b>. </font></p> <p align="left"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html" target="display">Petition to Senate to Investigate Oddities of 9-11</a></font></b> <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html"> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Surpasses 20,000 Signatures Mark</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b></b></font><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b> [Hello, media <font color="#009900">weasels</font>?!? Instead of worrying about Jayson Blair's reporting for <i>The New York Times</i>, why not actually step up to the plate and report the myriad of oddities surrounding the 9-11 terrorist attacks? Or, are most 'journalists' '<font color="#ff0000">in bed</font>'ed-with-Bush?</b> Oh, speaking of the whorish <i>New York Times</i>, I didn't see the <i>Times</i> promptly report that Colin Powell praised a Downing Street <a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/2003/02/week_1/06_dossier.html" target="display"><b>Ph.D. student's</b> </a> plagiarized <a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/2003/02/week_1/07_dossier.html" target="display"><b>twelve-year old thesis</b></a> when he prattled at length in front of the U.N. Security Council to push for Bush's sickko police massacre in Iraq --God, what a farce. Where was the <i>Times</i>, citing <a href="http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=27&row=1"><b>Greg Palast's lead</b></a> that <a href="http://www.legitgov.org/CLG_Interviews_Greg_Palast_022503.html"><b>ChoicePoint DBT illegally purged ninety-seven thousand votes in Florida </b></a> in 2000, <b>before</b> the Whore Court installed Bush? The <i>Times</i> considers Blair's mis-reporting the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/11/national/11PAPE.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"> <b>'low point in the 152-year history of the newspaper'</b></a>?!?<b> </b>Gag me with a chain saw! --<b>Lori Price</b>]</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12192317&method=full&siteid=50143" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">What Did Happen to Flight 93?</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Richard Wallace, US Editor "...did an American fighter pilot have to do the unthinkable and shoot down a US civil airliner? Susan Mcelwain, 51, who lives two miles from the site, knows what she saw - the white plane rocketed directly over her head... 'There's no way I imagined this plane - it was so low it was virtually on top of me. It was white with no markings but <b>it was definitely military</b>, it just had that look. It had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side... <b>The FBI came and talked to me and said there was no plane around </b>. Then they changed their story and tried to say it was a plane taking pictures of the crash 3,000ft up. But I saw it and it was there before the crash and it was 40ft above my head. <b>They did not want my story - nobody here did </b>.'" </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/local/4084323.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Three-minute discrepancy in tape</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Cockpit voice recording ends before Flight 93's official time of impact (Sept. 16, 2002) The final three minutes of hijacked United Flight 93 are <b>still a mystery</b> more than a year after it crashed in western Pennsylvania. A Daily News investigation has found a roughly three-minute gap between the time the tape goes silent - according to government-prepared transcripts - and the time that top scientists have pinpointed for the crash. <b>The FBI and other agencies refused repeated requests to explain the discrepancy</b>.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/5839984.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Graham alleges a coverup of pre-9/11 failure</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Sen. Bob Graham accused the Bush dictatorship Sunday of <font color="#ff0000"><b>covering up its failure to possibly prevent the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks</b></font> by refusing to release the findings of a Graham-led congressional investigation last year. </font><font face="Verdana"> <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html" target="display"><font size="2"><b>Petition to Senate to Investigate Oddities of 9/11</b></font></a><font size="2"> </font></font><font face="Verdana" size="2"> surpasses <font color="#ff0000"><b>19,900 </b></font>signatures --please add yours!</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1052251546550&call_page=TS_Columnists&call_pageid=970599109774&call_pagepath=Columnists" target="display"> <b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Conspiracy crusader doubts official 9/11 version</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> (interview of Barrie Zwicker by Michele Landsberg "Why did the United States Air Force fail to scramble interceptor jets — in defiance of all long-standing rules and well-established practice — for almost two hours after it was known that an unprecedented four planes had been hijacked? </font><font face="Verdana" size="2">...<b><font color="#ff0000">Why did George Bush sit for half an hour in a Florida classroom, listening to a girl talk about her pet goat, after his chief of staff told him about the second plane? </font> [*See: <a href="http://ecclesia.org/lawgiver/911.asp" target="display">"The obscure goat story of 9-11"</a>] For that matter, why did he pretend that he first learned of the attacks in that classroom, when he had actually been briefed as he left his hotel that morning? Why has there been no public investigation into the billions of dollars 'earned' by insider trading of United and American Airlines stock before 9/11? </b>" </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.construction.com/NewsCenter/Headlines/ENR/20011119b.asp" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">New York Officials May Hire Bechtel For Trade Center Job</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> (<font color="#ff0000"><b>11/19/01</b></font>) New York City could soon be turning to San Francisco-based Bechtel Group Inc. to manage the estimated $2.5-billion cleanup of the World Trade Center site. <b>Bechtel has been working on the site "on an informal basis" since Sept. 12 </b>, says spokesman Alexander Winslow. <b>[*Oddity question: since all domestic flights were canceled for two days and international for three (except for the bin Laden family members that were allowed to leave , <g>), HOW could San Francisco-based Bechtel have been 'on the site' in New York on Sept. 12, unless they were there in ADVANCE of 911? Just curious.] </b> </font><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/05/news/companies/war_bechtel/index.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Bechtel tied to bin Ladens</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"> <b><font color="#ff0000">Osama bin Laden family members invested $10M in an equity fund run by former Bechtel unit</font></b>. The Bush dictatorship launched a war on terror because of the alleged acts of Osama bin Laden. <b>Ironically, one of the companies the regime has picked to rebuild Iraq after the latest phase of that war has ties to bin Laden's family</b>, according to a published report. </font></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.thewpbfchannel.com/news/2192959/detail.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Graham Claims Bush Regime Blocking Release Of 9/11 Report</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Florida Senator and presidential candidate Bob Graham says the Bush dictatorship is stonewalling the public release of a congressional report on the September 11 terrorist attacks. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/5/7/00601" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Graham Eyeing Evidence That Bush Blew 9/11</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Bob Graham is reportedly sitting on <b>damaging evidence that the <font color="#ff0000">Bush dictatorship could have prevented the Sept. 11 attacks</font></b> - but he hasn't released the information yet because it's classified. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/911759.asp?0cv=CB10&cp1=1" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Post-9/11 interviews faulted</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> GAO report criticizes Justice Department effort --The Justice Department's effort to interview some 7,600 foreigners in the United States after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks was conducted haphazardly, leading to incomplete, inconclusive results, congressional investigators say. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/910676.asp?0cl=c1&cp1=1" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">September 11 Showdown</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> <b>Will the White House block a terror panel's access to critical documents? </b> --NEWSWEEK has learned, Dictator Bush's chief lawyer has privately signaled that the <b>White House may seek to invoke executive privilege over key documents relating to the attacks in order to keep them out of the hands of investigators </b> for the National Commission on Terror Attacks Upon the United States—the independent panel created by Congress to probe all aspects of 9-11. Some commission members now fear a showdown over the issue.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.tomflocco.com/bush_may_invoke_9.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Bush May Invoke 9/11 Executive Privilege and Secrecy</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Tom Flocco "Proof of prior knowledge of the September 11 attacks is continuing to trickle out of the purportedly 'leak-proof' White House, as more corroborative chickens of 9/11 are coming home to roost -- even as President [sic] Bush is considering invoking executive privilege to keep the clamps on evidence that could alter the political landscape for the nation's conquering 'top-gun.'" </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/5792329.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">White House refuses to release Sept. 11 info</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Bush dictatorship and the nation's intelligence agencies are <b>blocking the release of sensitive information about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon</b>, delaying publication of a 900-page congressional report on how the terrorist assault happened. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030430-054848-3832r" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">9/11 panel will be asked about gov't screening documents</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Officials of the blue ribbon commission set up to investigate the Sept. 11 terror attacks will be questioned at its meeting Thursday about a <b>decision to let the U.S. government screen materials before releasing them to commission members </b>.</font> </p> <p align="left"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/907379.asp?0cv=CB10&cp1=1" target="display">The Secrets of September 11</a></font></b> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>The White House is battling to keep a report on the terror attacks secret </b>. <b>Does the 2004 <font color="#ff0000">s</font>-election have anything to do with it?</b> --Even as White House political aides plot a 2004 campaign plan designed to capitalize on the emotions and issues raised by the September 11 terror attacks, regime officials are waging a behind-the-scenes battle to restrict public disclosure of key events relating to the attacks. </font> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/26/politics/26PANE.html?pagewanted=print&position=" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Justice Dept. Seeks Sept. 11 Transcripts</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Justice Department has <b>asked to review the transcripts</b> of secret Congressional hearings on the Sept. 11 terror attacks before they are handed over to a new federal commission that is also investigating the attacks, panel officials said today. <b><font color="#ff0000">The regime has invoked executive privilege to block the release of information on internal White House deliberations and advice to the president [sic]</font></b>. <b>[Why? What secrets regarding the Bush dictatorship and the 9-11 terrorist attacks is AshKKKroft hiding? ...Please sign the " <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html" target="display">Petition to the Senate to Investigate Oddities Involving 9/11 Terrorist Attacks</a>". The petition has over 19,375 signatures --please add yours. --Lori Price] </b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39091-2003Apr25.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Panel's Lack of Access to 9/11 Papers is Decried</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> One member's attempt to review confidential transcripts exposed a rift yesterday within the independent commission examining the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The commission's executive director, Philip Zelikow said the <b>panel will fight any attempt by Congress or the White House to keep the documents secret </b>. </font></p> <p align="left"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/21/news-blume.php" target="display">As Luck Would Have It</a> . . . A 9/11 victim testifies that the carnage could have been averted </font></b> <font face="Verdana" size="2">--by Howard Blume "On the Chicago Board Options Exchange during the week before September 11,<b> </b>put options were purchased on American and United Airlines, the two airlines involved in the attacks. The investors who placed these orders were gambling that, in the short term, <b> the stock prices of both airlines would plummet. <font color="#ff0000">Never before on the Chicago Exchange were such large amounts of United and American Airlines options traded. </font>These investors netted a profit of at least $5 million after the September 11 attacks. <font color="#ff0000">Interestingly, the names of the investors remain undisclosed, and the $5 million remains unclaimed</font></b>.<b> </b>Why were these aberrant trades not discovered prior to 9/11? Who were the individuals who placed these trades? Have they been investigated?" </font><font face="Verdana" size="2"> </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/31/opinion/31MON2.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Undercutting the 9/11 Inquiry</font></b></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"> (The New York Times) "Reasonable people might wonder if the White House, having failed in its initial attempt to have Henry Kissinger steer the investigation, may be resorting to <b>budgetary starvation as a tactic to hobble any politically fearless inquiry </b>... The nation demands an unflinching 9/11 search. A forthright Congress could easily shake the money loose from the Capitol leadership."</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.startribune.com/stories/844/3359059.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2">Panel Advocates Blame White House</font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Bush mis-ministration has quietly sidetracked a bipartisan effort to create an independent commission to examine the Sept. 11 attacks, the commission's advocates charged Friday. <b>House Minority Whip Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., blamed the White House for killing the deal. After an agreement was reached, "almost immediately the invisible hand came down," Pelosi said. </b></font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="2">First public hearing of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States <b><a href="http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing1/witness_kleinberg.htm" target="display"> Statement of Mindy Kleinberg</a></b> to the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, March 31, 2003</font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="3"><font size="2"><a href="http://legitgov.org/mike_replyto_my_god_you_people_are_idiots_032603.html"><b>Michael Rectenwald responds to a CLG visitor</b></a> who exclaims, "My god you people are idiots!" </font><font size="4"> </font><font face="Verdana" size="2">"...we do hold that Bush was at least criminally negligent regarding 9-11, given his foreknowledge of the eventuality, if 'knowledge' is a word that can be used in connection with Bush without being oxymoronic." --Michael Rectenwald </font></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,437267,00.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">9-11 Commission Funding Woes</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Questions arise concerning the administration's funding of the congressional investigation into the September 11th attacks -- <font color="#ff0000"><b>Is the Bush White House trying to put the brakes on the congressional panel created last fall to investigate 9-11 attacks?</b></font></font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.startribune.com/stories/844/3725990.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Terror Commission Seeks Classified Papers</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The independent commission on the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks is trying to get a half-million pages of documents compiled by the House and Senate intelligence committees. It is also drafting a budget to determine whether it can get by on the [measly] <font color="#ff0000"><b>$3 million</b></font> [?!?] appropriated by Congress. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/876263.asp?cp1=1" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Perle: Bush Ciminally Negligent in Allowing Sept. 11th Terrorist Attacks</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> (<i>Meet the Press</i> Transcript for Feb. 23) "MR. PERLE: I'm critical of the failure to recognize the threat that Osama bin Laden posed before— everything we did after September 11 could have been done before September 11." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/5261295.htm" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Sept. 11 conspiracy more extensive than believed, files reveal</font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The hijacking conspiracy spawned in this northern port city likely was broader and deeper than previously reported, according to investigative files amassed by German authorities since Sept. 11, 2001.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Mohamed Atta and Rudi Dekkers Seen Together in Venice in Weeks Before Sept. 11 Attack</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Mohamed Atta was twice seen with flight school owner Rudi Dekkers in Venice, FL. during the final month before he crashed American Airlines Flight 11 into the North Tower of the World Trade Center, directly contradicting Dekker's account of his relationship with the terrorist ringleader. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_hersh.html" target="display"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Transcript: <i>Now</i> with Bill Moyers --Sy Hersh Details Rumsfeld's Approval of bin Laden's Family Evacuated in the Aftermath of 9/11 </font></b></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> "JANE WALLACE: How high up was that evacuation authorized? SY HERSH: I am here to tell you it was authorized — Donald Rumsfeld who — we'll talk about what he said later — <b>it had to be authorized at the White House</b>. <b>But certainly at the Secretary of Defense level</b>."</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Rumsfeld admitted that a missile hit the Pentagon, and a whole lot more, in an Oct. 12, 2001 DoD news transcript. </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Donald Rumsfeld: "...Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens,<b> and the missile to damage this building</b> and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,411368,00.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>9/11 Probe: Aiming High</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks wants to talk to top Bush Administration officials --"Two commissioners of the bipartisan panel, which holds its first meeting this week, told TIME they will push for a wide-ranging, aggressive probe that will include testimony from <b>top Bush Administration officials who didn't testify last year</b> in a joint inquiry by the House and Senate intelligence committees." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30682" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Was United Flight 93 shot down on Sept. 11?</b></font></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"> <b>Report revisits nagging question of what really happened to doomed jet</b> --"Echoing reports made immediately after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, several eyewitnesses claim in a report by London's Daily Mirror that they saw a 'military-type' plane flying around United Airlines Flight 93 when the hijacked passenger jet crashed in rural Pennsylvania -- <b>prompting the unthinkable question of whether the <font color="#ff0000">U.S. military shot down the plane</font></b>." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=14873" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Top Ten Conspiracy Theories of 2002</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Mike Ward, PopMatters " <b>5. Hijacker Oddities II.</b> Another theory about the hijackers' real identities takes as its departure an utterly bizarre and largely overlooked story on MSNBC.com, which says that some of the hijackers may have trained at U.S. Army bases..."</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=513&ncid=703&e=9&u=/ap/20030121/ap_on_go_ot/attacks_commission" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>9/11 Panel Faces Time, Money Pressure </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> An independent commission [?!?] charged with investigating the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks is only beginning to confront a task complicated by a ticking clock, limited finances and the high expectations of those who lost loved ones. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/18/international/europe/18HAMB.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Germans Were Tracking Sept. 11 Conspirators as Early as 1998, Documents Disclose </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Three years before the Sept. 11 attacks, Germany's domestic intelligence service was tracking prominent members of the Hamburg terrorist cell that planned and executed the aircraft hijackings, according to newly obtained documents. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/media_wtc_jan03.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Unexplained Media Omissions and Silence: How Did those WTC Buildings Collapse?</b></font> </a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Scott Loughrey "With a more concentrated media comes the prospect that serious lines of inquiry will not be pursued in a timely fashion to correct problems. For example, what really happened on 9/11/01?" </font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="4"><font size="2"><a href="http://legitgov.org/essay_burns_security_co_and_911_011203.html"><b>Security, Secrecy and a Bush Brother</b></a></font> <font size="2">--by Margie Burns </font><font face="Verdana" size="2">"A company that provided security at the World Trade Center, Washington D.C.'s Dulles International Airport and United Airlines between 1995 and 2001 was backed by a private Kuwaiti-American investment firm whose records <b> were not open to full public disclosure, with ties to the Bush family</b>.</font><font size="2">" </font></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://popmatters.com/features/021227-conspiracy.shtml" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Of Big Oil, By Big Oil, For Big Oil</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The 10 Most Startling Speculations and "Conspiracy Theories" About September 11 and America's New War --by Mike Ward "For about thirty minutes after his chief of staff told him that America was under attack, George W. Bush continued to sit in an elementary school classroom listening to a second-grader tell a story about a pet goat." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://liberty.hypermart.net/editorials/2002/PARALLELS.htm" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>PARALLELS Those who refuse to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.</b></font> </a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by George Santayana "Interestingly, in a TV interview on December 4, 2001, Laura Bush let it slip that <b>already back in July, the White House, knowing that the country would be in mourning at the end of the year </b>, had begun redesigning the 2001 Christmas cards on a more somber note than usual." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO212A.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>New Chairman of 9/11 Commission had business ties with Osama's Brother in Law</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Unknown to most, UNOCAL's partner in the Cent-Gas trans-Afghan pipeline consortium, the Saudi Company Delta Oil is owned by the bin Mahfouz and Al-Amoudi clans which allegedly have ties to bin Laden's Al Qaeda. </font></p> <p align="left"><font size="2"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=514&e=4&cid=514&u=/ap/20021229/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_2004" target="display"><font face="Verdana"><b>Terror War Tops Bush Re-S-Election Agenda </b></font></a><font face="Verdana"> An internal White House document outlining Dictator Bush's re-<font color="#ff0000"><b>s</b></font>-election agenda starts with "War on terrorism (Con't)" and homeland security. <b>It's the latest sign, critics say, that pResidential advisers are seeking political gain from the Sept. 11 attacks</b>. <b>[And, not a WORD on <font color="#ff0000">C</font>ensoring<font color="#ff0000">N</font>ews<font color="#ff0000"> N</font>etwork!!]</b></font></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/july-dec02/intelligence_12-11.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Two senators discuss the 9/11 report</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> examining the failure of intelligence agencies to prevent the terrorist attacks. --Sen. Bob Graham: <b>"I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing -- although that was part of it -- by a sovereign foreign government </b> and that we have been derelict in our duty to track that down, make the further case, or find the evidence that would indicate that that is not true and we can look for other reasons why the terrorists were able to function so effectively in the United States." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Odigo says workers were warned of attack</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that <b>two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen</b>, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in <b>trying to find the original sender of the message</b> predicting the attack. <b>[Does George Bush use Instant Messaging??? I am sure he likes the abbreviated spellings.] </b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pri&dt=021219&cat=frontpage&st=frontpagefbi_whistleblowers021219&src=abc" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>FBI Called off Terror Investigations </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Two veteran FBI investigators say they were <b><font color="#ff0000">ordered to stop investigations</font> into a suspected terror cell linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network and the Sept. 11 attacks </b>. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nandotimes.com/nation/story/680082p-5064443c.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>State Department could have prevented Sept. 11 attacks, senators say</b></font></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Sept. 11 attacks<b> would not have happened</b> if the State Department had followed its own guidelines and denied visas to the hijackers, two top Republican senators said in a report issued Wednesday. </font></p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/847697.asp?0cv=CB20" target="display"><b>Kissinger never "vetted" for conflicts of interest</b></a> Seeking to avoid further controversy about his consulting business, Henry Kissinger abruptly stepped down as chair of the independent <b>[?!?]</b> commission to investigate the 9-11 terrorist attacks. Unlike other high-profile presidential appointments, NEWSWEEK has learned, <b>Kissinger was never "vetted" for conflicts of interest by White House lawyers </b>.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/dec2002/kiss-d16.shtml" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Kissinger resigns as head of September 11 probe</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Patrick Martin "The resignation of Henry Kissinger, only two weeks after he was appointed by President [sic] Bush to head the bipartisan commission investigating the September 11 terrorist attacks, <b>underscores the extraordinary degree of resistance in official Washington to any effort to organize an inquiry into the role of the US military and intelligence apparatus in those events </b>."</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Kissinger-Commission.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Kissinger Quits as Chairman of 9/11 Panel </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger stepped down Friday as chairman of a panel investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, citing controversy over potential <b>[?!?]</b> conflicts of interest with his private-sector clients. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/12/11/national1801EST0778.DTL" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Mitchell quits independent commission investigating Sept. 11 </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Citing a reluctance to quit his law firm, former Sen. George Mitchell on Wednesday withdrew from the new commission that will investigate the Sept. 11 attacks.</font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=676&ncid=716&e=18&u=/usatoday/20021211/ts_usatoday/4690933" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Punish FBI, CIA officials who mishandled Sept. 11, panel urges </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> FBI and CIA officials who mishandled intelligence that might have thwarted the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks should be investigated and, if warranted, punished, a congressional panel will recommend today. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=533&e=5&cid=533&u=/ap/20021210/ap_on_re_us/attacks_collapse" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>WTC Surveillance Tapes Feared Missing </b></font></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Surveillance tapes and maintenance logs are among the missing evidence</b> as investigators try to figure out why the World Trade Center collapsed, federal officials said Monday. Many documents destroyed in the disaster "are pretty key in carrying out the work," lead investigator Shyam Sunder said. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.tomflocco.com/Lawyers_seek_black_boxs.htm" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>9/11 Lawyers Seek Black-Box Data on Saudi Hijackers</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Tom Flocco In a letter written to Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein from Douglas A. Latto, attorney at New York's Baumeister & Samuels firm, Latto told Hellerstein that "we have been led to believe that the United States of America, through the Department of Justice (DOJ), will <b>attempt to prevent discovery of the [9/11] black boxes</b>." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Bush.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Bush Names Kissinger to Head Sept. 11 Commission</b></font> </a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Dictator Bush signed legislation creating a new independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 attacks Wednesday and named former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger to lead the panel. <b>[An untried war criminal heading this alleged "independent" 9/11 commission is <font color="#ff0000">NOT</font> who I had in mind when I authored the "<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html" target="display"> Petition to the Senate to Investigate Oddities Involving 9/11 Terrorist Attacks</a>," which has garnered over 17,325 signatures, thus far. -- Lori Price]</b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=536&e=9&cid=536&u=/ap/20021126/ap_on_go_pr_wh/sept_11_commission" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Bush Not Likely to Testify in 9/11 Probe </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Dictator Bush does not envision testifying before an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, even if there is some precedent for the chief executive offering high-profile testimony, the White House said Wednesday. <b>[Oh, but let's find out about the Clinton sexual liaison details!! -Lori Price]</b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/11/23/MN106309.DTL" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>9/11 victims' suit expanded</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A huge $15 trillion lawsuit intended to bankrupt the alleged financiers of al Qaeda grew even larger Friday, as the plaintiffs added more than three dozen new defendants, including members of the Saudi royal family. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=536&e=9&cid=536&u=/ap/20021126/ap_on_go_pr_wh/sept_11_commission" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Bush Not Likely to Testify in 9/11 Probe </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Dictator Bush does not envision testifying before an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, even if there is some precedent for the chief executive offering high-profile testimony, the White House said Wednesday. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/23/international/middleeast/23TERR.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>9/11 Report Says Saudi Arabia Links Went Unexamined </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A draft report by the joint Congressional committee looking into the Sept. 11 attacks has concluded that the F.B.I. and the C.I.A, in their investigations, did not aggressively pursue leads that might have linked the terrorists to Saudi Arabia, senior government officials said today. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/838867.asp?0cv=CA01&cp1=1" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>9-11 Hijackers: A Saudi Money Trail?</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The FBI is investigating whether the Saudi Arabian government—using the bank account of the wife of a senior Saudi diplomat—sent tens of thousands of dollars to two Saudi students in the United States who provided assistance to two of the September 11 hijackers, according to law-enforcement sources. <b>[While the Saudis have this plausible connection to Al Queda and the hijackers themselves and there has been not even a hint of a connection between Iraqis and Al Queda, Bush is moving forward with plans to bomb Iraq! Why is that? Well, because Saudi Arabia already has a royal dictatorship beholden to US oil interests, and the Iraq does not. This proves that "weapons of mass destruction" and "terrorism" are false pretexts for any war on Iraq. Otherwise, we'd be attacking Saudi Arabia. The war on Iraq is a war of empire. All else represents nothing but a lie. --Michael Rectenwald] </b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.thestar.ca/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1035774511890&call_page=TS_Columnists&call_pageid=970599109774&call_pagepath=Columnists" target="display"> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Pursue the truth about Sept. 11</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> --by Antonia Zerbisias "The questions are endless. But most are not being asked — still — by most of the media most of the time. All of which to say, there are many people, and more by the minute, persuaded that, if the Bushies didn't cause 9/11, they did nothing to stop it. Even if you don't buy that, <b>it's hard to deny that the administration has exploited the massacres, using them to advance its agenda while avoiding such issues as corporate corruption</b>." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/12/nyregion/12TAPE.html?todaysheadlines=&pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>In Rescuers' Voices, 9/11 Tape Reveals a Gripping History </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> To the abject frustration of family groups that had lobbied hard for such an inquiry -- a national commission to investigate possible lapses by the intelligence services the plans have stalled: the Bush mis-ministration has been concerned about exposing intelligence methods, <b>[and about its role in 9/11 being revealed]</b> and objected to the terms of an inquiry that had been agreed to by Republicans and Democrats in Congress. This week, the matter will again be debated when Congress takes up next year's budget for intelligence. <b>"The American people must know the full story has yet to be told," </b>Senator Richard Shelby, a Republican member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said at a hearing last month.<b>[<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html" target="display"> Petition to Senate to Investigate Oddities of 9/11</a> <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html" target="display">http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html</a> surpasses <font color="#ff0000"> 17,075 </font><font face="Verdana" size="2">signatures -- please add yours!</font></b></font><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">-- Lori Price] </font></b></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/09/nyregion/09TAPE.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>9/11 Tape Raised Added Questions on Radio Failures</b></font> </a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> -- The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey's analysis of its 78-minute tape of firefighter communications from Sept. 11<b> flatly contradicts the city's version of what went wrong</b> . It also raises questions about the thoroughness of the city's investigations into the worst loss of life any fire department has ever experienced — 343 men.</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.rense.com/general29/penta.htm" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>PentaLawn 2000!</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> "Introducing the amazing new Penta-Lawn 2000! The most resilient lawn ever! Exclusively tested at the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. It's skid proof! It's fire proof! It even repels plane debris! On September 11, 2001, a bunch of mean nasty Arab terrorists hijacked American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 fully loaded with fuel, and crashed it at ground level into the west side wall of the Pentagon." </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=25255" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Was the NRO's 9/11 Drill Just a Coincidence?</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Posted By: ChristopherBollyn "On 11 September 2001, a key U.S. intelligence agency was running a drill in which a plane hits a government building. While U.S. spy satellites could easily observe what actually happened in New York City and Washington, this 'bizarre coincidence' sent the people who operate America's 'eye in the sky' home." </font></p> <p align="left"><b><a href="http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,819931,00.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2">Gore Vidal claims 'Bush junta' complicit in 9/11</font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> </font></b><font face="Verdana" size="2">America's most controversial writer Gore Vidal has launched the most scathing attack to date on George W Bush's pResidency, </font><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">calling for an investigation into the events of 9/11 to discover whether the Bush mis-ministration deliberately chose not to act on warnings of Al-Qaeda's plans. </font></b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Vidal's highly controversial 7000 word polemic titled 'The Enemy Within' argues that what he calls a <b><font color="#ff0000">'Bush junta'</font></b><font color="#ff0000"> </font>used the terrorist attacks as a pretext to enact a pre-existing agenda to invade Afghanistan and crack down on civil liberties at home. </font><b><font face="Verdana" size="2">[Petition to Senate -- Investigate "Oddities" of 9/11: </font></b><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html" target="display"> <b>http://www.petitiononline.com/11601TFS/petition.html</b></a><b>]</b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.attackonamerica.net/proofofcontrolleddemolitionatwtc.htm" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Proof of Controlled Demolition at the WTC</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> -- by Jerry Russell, Ph.D. "Steel frame towers are built very strongly. They need to withstand the pressure of gale-force winds, the violent rocking motion of earthquakes, and the ravages of time. For this reason, they are almost impossible to destroy." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-intel19oct19.story" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Why U.S. Intelligence Stumbled</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The monthlong series of congressional intelligence hearings that ended this week produced a detailed and disheartening portrait of the U.S. spy community as it groped its way toward Sept. 11. It also reshaped thinking about the most basic lingering question: Could the attacks have been prevented? <b>[Yes, if the coup did not take place and President Gore was allowed to assume his role.]</b></font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/15/bush.sept.11/index.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Bush briefed on hijacking threat before September 11</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Bin Laden 'chatter' since Clinton administration -- pResident Bush's daily intelligence briefings in the weeks leading up to the September 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network would attempt to hijack a U.S.-based airliner, senior mis-ministration officials said Wednesday. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=533&e=3&cid=533&u=/ap/20021016/ap_on_go_pr_wh/attacks_intelligence" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>9/11 Relatives Push for Commission </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Tearful relatives of Sept. 11 victims urged White House officials Wednesday not to block Congress' plans to create an independent commission to investigate the attacks. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/820666.asp?cp1=1" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Cheney: Investigators, Keep Out</b></font></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>The vice pResident blocks an independent commission to investigate 9-11 </b> -- Dick Cheney played a behind-the-scenes role last week in derailing an agreement to create an independent commission to investigate the 9-11 attacks. On Thursday, hours after congressional negotiators hailed a final deal over the scope and powers of a 9-11 panel, Cheney called House Intelligence Committee chairman Rep. Porter Goss, sources told NEWSWEEK. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9773-2002Oct10.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>House GOP Stops 9/11 Probe Plan</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Proponents of Proposal Point to White House Opposition -- A tentative congressional deal to create an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks fell apart hours after the White House and House Republican leaders objected to the plan, sources said last night. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=533&e=3&cid=533&u=/ap/20021011/ap_on_go_co/attacks_intelligence" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Sept. 11 Commission Falls Apart </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> An agreement announced by leading lawmakers to form an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 attacks fell apart late Thursday after the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said more details needed to be worked out. </font> </p> <p align="left"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://www.visualjournalism.com/Files/reviews/bush911/pageBig.shtml" target="display"><b>Is Bush a Liar -- or is memory serving him badly?</b></a> -- by Ekstra Bladget "Most people will easily remember where they were and what they were doing at September 11th last year. Not President [sic] Bush. At two Town Hall Meetings he was asked about his day, and both times he ended up telling untrue stories about how he learned of the WTC-attacks." </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57268-2002Oct7.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Ex-FBI Director to Face Grilling on Hill</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Former FBI director Louis J. Freeh comes before Congress in what could be a contentious and wrenching appraisal of his record on counterterrorism, widely viewed as one of the triumphs of his tenure when he departed in June, 2001. As the clues the FBI missed have become widely known, Freeh's tenure is now being reassessed in light of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/06/politics/06INTE.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Congress Seeks F.B.I. Data on Informer; F.B.I. Resists</b> </font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Federal Bureau of Investigation had a confidential informer who rented rooms in California to two of the Sept. 11 hijackers, but <b>the bureau is resisting a request from the Congressional committee investigating the attacks </b> to interview the informer and his F.B.I. handler, government officials said. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://discuss.washingtonpost.com/zforum/02/tv_frontline100402.htm" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Frontline: 'The Man Who Knew'</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Producer/Director, "Frontline" Friday, Oct. 4, 2002; 11 a.m. ET When the Twin Towers fell on Sept. 11, 2001, among the thousands killed was the one man who may have known more about Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda than any other person in America: John O'Neill. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=533&e=6&cid=533&u=/ap/20020930/ap_on_re_us/attacks_collapse_analysis" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Analysis of WTC's Fall May Be Sealed </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A collection of expert analysis and data that could help explain how and why the World Trade Center collapsed has been compiled as part of an insurance lawsuit in Manhattan, <b> but the public may never see the information.</b></font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12192317&method=full&siteid=50143" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>What Did Happen to Flight 93?</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> -- by Richard Wallace "...of the four aircraft taken on September 11, the exact fate of Flight 93 after its two-hour journey is proving difficult for US officials to explain. What was the white jet doing there and why won't they admit to its presence? Why did other witnesses see smoke and flames trailing from Flight 93 as it fell from the sky, indicating a possible explosion aboard? Or - and this is proving to be the most uncomfortable question of all - in the moments before the airliner piled into the black, spongey earth at 575mph did an American fighter pilot have to do the unthinkable and shoot down a US civil airliner?" </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20020930-052952-9407r" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Pearl tracked al Qaida</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was <b>investigating the man who allegedly planned the Sept. 11 airplane hijackings and attacks on New York and Washington when he was kidnapped and murdered in Pakistan</b>, according to two former Central Intelligence Agency officials. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20020927-15851566.htm" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Gore accuses White House of ignoring 9/11 warnings</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Al Gore yesterday made his second attack this week on George Bush's war on terrorism, accusing the administration of ignoring signs that al Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden planned to attack the United States on September 11. "The warnings were there" before the attacks, President Gore said. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59796-2002Sep24.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Senate Approves Independent 9/11 Commission</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Senate voted overwhelmingly today to create an independent commission to conduct a broad inquiry into governmental failures leading up to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, significantly boosting prospects that Congress will set up the panel before it adjourns for the year. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Attacks-Intelligence.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>F.B.I. Agent Cited Trade Center Attack Ahead of Sept. 11 </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A Minneapolis FBI supervisor said in a pre-Sept. 11 conversation with headquarters that<b> </b>he wanted to<b> prevent suspicious student pilot Zacarias Moussaoui from flying a plane into the World Trade Center </b>, a congressional investigator testified Tuesday... <b>The Bush mis-ministration doesn't want to reveal what the White House knew,</b> even if the intelligence has already been declassified. On Tuesday, leaders of the committees again called on the White House to allow the information to be disclosed, or explain why the information should be kept secret. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=2&cid=578&u=/nm/20020924/ts_nm/attack_intelligence_dc" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>FBI HQ Knew of Bin Laden Followers Flight Training </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Before last year's Sept. 11 attacks, FBI headquarters in New York knew several associates of Osama bin Laden had trained at U.S. flight schools, but believed the al Qaeda leader needed pilots to transport goods in Afghanistan, a congressional investigator said on Tuesday. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/811189.asp?0sp=W5b1&0cb=-11977393&cp1=1" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Why the White House Said Yes to a 9-11 Inquiry</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Family members of those lost on 9-11 continue to push for a blue-ribbon panel With momentum for the blue-ribbon commission rapidly gaining on Capitol Hill, and the <b>family members threatening to go public</b>, the White House had virtually no choice. " <b>There was a freight train coming down the tracks</b>." said one White House official. "They realized how powerful the voices of the families were," added Democrat Rep. Jane Harman, a House intelligence committee member. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/23/national/23INTE.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>C.I.A.'s Inquiry on Qaeda Aide Seen as Flawed</b></font> </a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Central Intelligence Agency failed to adequately scrutinize information it received before Sept. 11 about the growing terrorist threat posed by Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a leader of Al Qaeda now believed to have been a central planner of the attacks on New York and Washington, Congressional investigators have concluded. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Attacks-Intelligence.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>FBI Agent Warned About 9 / 11 Hijacker</b> </font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Thirteen days before the Sept. 11 attacks, a frustrated FBI agent warned headquarters that "someday, someone will die'' after he was denied permission to pursue a man who would become one of the hijackers, a congressional panel was told Friday. Although pResident Bush reversed course and backed an independent commission conduct a broader investigation, Stephen Push, a leader of a group of Sept. 11 relatives, said Bush's proposal isn't good enough because it apparently wouldn't include an investigation of the intelligence agencies themselves. " <b>This is disgraceful, what we're learning about intelligence failures, and the White House is trying to cover it up</b>,'' he said. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=512&ncid=512&e=19&u=/ap/20020918/ap_on_go_co/attacks_intelligence_families" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Intelligence Flaws Anger Families </b></font></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2">"If the intelligence community had been doing its job, my wife would be alive today," said Stephen Push, whose wife, Lisa Raines, died in the attack on the Pentagon. </font> </p> <p align="left"><b><a href="http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20020918-035035-1042r" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2">Administration won't release 9-11 data</font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> </font> </b><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>The Bush mis-ministration has denied lawmakers investigating the Sept. 11 attacks permission to reveal whether the pResident or other White House staff received warning of potential terrorist attacks against the United States, including plans by al Qaida linked terrorists to use hijacked planes as weapons. </b></font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36615-2002Sep18.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Barriers To 9/11 Inquiry Decried</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Congress May Push Commission -- Lawmakers from both parties yesterday protested the <b>Bush mis-ministration's lack of cooperation in the congressional inquiry into Sept. 11 intelligence failures</b> and threatened to renew efforts to establish an independent commission. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/19/politics/19INTE.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>U.S. Failed to Act on Warnings in '98 of a Plane Attack </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The United States intelligence community was told in 1998 that Arab terrorists were planning to fly a bomb-laden aircraft into the World Trade Center, but the F.B.I. and the Federal Aviation Administration did not take the threat seriously, a Congressional investigation into the Sept. 11 attacks has found. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/809484.asp?cp1=1" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Bin Laden warning preceded 9/11</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Committee opens inquiry into intelligence failures -- An intelligence briefing in July 2001 warned that Osama bin Laden was planning a spectacular terrorist attack against U.S. or Israeli interests, congressional investigators said Wednesday in their first public assessment of intelligence failures prior to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/17/intelligence.hearings/index.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Congress to reveal evidence on pre-9/11 threats</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A veil of secrecy will begin to rise Wednesday when a congressional committee reveals some of the information that U.S. spy agencies knew about suspected terrorist activity before the September 11 attacks -- including the disclosure that analysts knew al Qaeda had previously plotted to use aircraft as terrorist weapons. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-attacks-intelligence0913sep13.story?coll=sns%2Dap%2Dpolitics%2Dheadlines" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Congress OKs 9/11 Public Hearings </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> After months of delay, Congress on Friday scheduled its first public hearings into intelligence failures leading up to the Sept. 11 attacks. One senator said he had little hope they would accomplish much. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/13/politics/13INTE.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>White House Drags Its Feet on Testifying at 9/11 Panel</b> </font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Bush Fourth Reich is balking at a request from Congress that Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld testify in public before the Congressional committee investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, government officials said today. The mia-ministration's resistance has frustrated lawmakers by <b> making it difficult for the joint Senate and House committee to schedule public hearings</b>, even as it races against a deadline to complete its work by the end of the current session of Congress.</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/10/politics/10SHEL.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Senator Shelby Faults the Intelligence Agencies</b></font> </a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> After months of work on a joint Congressional committee investigating the events of Sept. 11, Senator Richard C. Shelby said he feared that Congress would adjourn before all the facts are unearthed. As a result, he said, <b>he would not oppose an outside investigating commission</b>. "Time is not on our side," warned Mr. Shelby of Alabama, the ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/09/11/ar911.hijackers.landlord/index.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Sources: Hijackers' ex-landlord was FBI informant</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A former landlord of two of the September 11 hijackers was an FBI informant at the time, knowledgeable sources confirm to CNN.</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://digipressetmp4.teaser.fr/site/page.php?num_art=496&doss=60" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>CLG mentioned in Digipresse</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The petition on line signed by Carlos Jacinto and a dozen of thousands of other netsurfers, was composed by Lori R. Price, writer and webmaster for Citizens for Legitimate Government. Which are the questions raised by Lori Price? <a href="http://digipressetmp4.teaser.fr/site/page.php?num_art=496&doss=60" target="display">Carlos Jacinto : "Beaucoup de choses à éclaircir"</a> *original in French</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://web11.superb.net/www.nodomain.com/editorials/smoking_gun.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>The 9/11 Evidence that May Hang George W. Bush</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> - The Case Against G.W. Bush: a Preliminary "Hearing" in the Court of Common Sense -- by Cheryl Seal "At the very least Bush allowed 9/11 to happen. But the evidence indicates his guilt involves more than just a huge intentional sin of omission –this now seems certain. So it is ulcer-fomenting to watch him, Cheney, Condoleeza Rice and their PR army try to sell America yet another Big Lie –that they had no idea such a thing as 9/11 could happen..." </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.aviationnow.com/content/publication/awst/20020603/avi_stor.htm" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Exercise Jump-Starts Response to Attacks</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> At 8:40 a.m. EDT, Tech. Sgt. Jeremy W. Powell of North American Aerospace Defense Command's (Norad) Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) in Rome, N.Y., took the first call from Boston Center. He notified NEADS commander Col. Robert K. Marr, Jr., of a possible hijacked airliner, American Airlines Flight 11... </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=331115" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Revealed: The Taliban minister, the US envoy and the warning of September 11 that was ignored </b></font></a><b><font face="Verdana" color="#ff0000" size="2"> </font></b><font face="Verdana" size="2">Weeks before the terrorist attacks on 11 September, the United States and the United Nations ignored warnings from a secret Taliban emissary that Osama bin Laden was planning a huge attack on American soil. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/27/national/27DETA.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Court Declares Bush Mis-ministration Acted Unlawfully</b> </font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The federal appeals court in Cincinnati declared yesterday that the <b>Bush mis-ministration acted unlawfully</b> in holding hundreds of deportation hearings in secret based only on the government's assertion that the people involved may have links to terrorism. The decision, which was laced with stinging language questioning the administration's commitment to an open democracy, is the first major appellate ruling on the government's legal tactics concerning Sept. 11. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=8&cid=578&u=/nm/20020826/ts_nm/court_hearings_dc_3" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Appeals Court Rules Against Closed 9/11 Hearing </b>s</font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A federal appeals court on Monday ruled that the Bush mis-ministration violated the U.S. constitution by holding secret immigration hearings for a figure under investigation in the Sept. 11 attacks." <b><font color="#ff0000"> A government operating in the shadow of secrecy stands in complete opposition to the society envisioned by the framers of our constitution</font></b>," the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/08/21/national1518EDT0686.DTL" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence <b>[insert euphemism for 9/11 oddity #1,274 here]</b>, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism -- it was to be a simulated accident. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=112&contentid=550&page=1" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>America Betrayed by NORAD on 9-11</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Two of the aircraft exceeded their software limits on 9/11. The Boeing 757 and 767 are equipped with fully autonomous flight capability, and they are the only two Boeing commuter aircraft capable of fully autonomous flight. They can be programmed to take off, fly to a destination and land, completely without a pilot at the controls. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=48" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Planes of 911 Exceeded Their Software Limits</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Two of the aircraft exceeded their software limits on 9/11. The Boeing 757 and 767 are equipped with fully autonomous flight capability, they are the only two Boeing commuter aircraft capable of fully autonomous flight. They can be programmed to take off, fly to a destination and land, completely without a pilot at the controls... </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/aug2002/fbi-a19.shtml" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>White House uses intimidation to scuttle probe of September 11</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The FBI investigation of members of the US Senate and House Intelligence Committees to determine the source of a leak of classified information in connection with the September 11 attacks is the latest effort by the Bush mis-ministration to establish an authoritarian presidency and overturn the traditional balance of powers in the US. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0208/S00085.htm" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Come Fly With Me?</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A Saudi Flying Instructor Who Died Mysteriously On May 8 Had The Same Name as Two 9/11 Hijackers Who Lived At The Same U.S. Naval Air Base -- Amid reports in the days after the September 11 attacks that two of the hijackers, Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi received flight training at Florida's Pensacola Naval Air Station, a new dot has been connected which may shed more light on past revelations that 9/11 terrorists learned to fly at secure United States military bases. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/794011.asp" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Transcript: <i>Donahue</i> for Aug. 13</b></font></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2">Jean-Charles Brisard, Co-Author of <i>The Forbidden Truth</i>, interviewed by Phil Donahue on MSNBC </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.thebushsyndrome.com/article.php?sid=107" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Bush Chronicles: Is Prez [sic] Trying to Remove a 9-11 Thorn Named Cynthia McKinney?</b></font> </a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> -- by Bruce S. Ticker "Cynthia McKinney's political fate will be decided sometime Tuesday night. If her 10-year tenure as a congresswoman is ended when a contentious Democratic primary climaxes, President [sic] Bush could well sigh with relief." </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020815/pl_nm/attack_firefighters_dc_1" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Firefighters Vote to Boycott Bush Sept. 11 Tribute </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The International Association of Fire Fighters voted unanimously on Wednesday to boycott a national tribute to firefighters who died on Sept. 11, in an angry response to pResident Bush's rejection of a bill that included $340 million to fund fire departments. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://members.fortunecity.com/seismicevent/" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Flight 93's Smoking Gun</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The relatively obscure field which considers the seismology of supersonic aircraft has produced something of a smoking gun in the mystery surrounding Flight 93's final moments. Evidence from the seismic record indicates there was at least one supersonic warplane within striking distance of Flight 93 on the fateful morning of September 11, 2001. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,333835,00.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented?</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Bush mis-ministration discarded the Clinton administration plan to fight al-Queda. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=3&cid=578&u=/nm/20020804/ts_nm/attack_plan_dc_3" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Clinton's plan for the United States to take on al Qaeda languished for eight months under the Bush mis-ministration </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> According to <i>Time</i> Magazine, proposals to strike at al Qaeda were developed in the final days of the Clinton administration and presented to the Bush mis-ministration's new national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, in January 2001. The proposals were developed by Richard Clarke, the point man on terrorism in the Clinton White House. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,769398,00.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Bush held up plan to hit Bin Laden</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Bush mis-ministration sat on a Clinton-era plan to attack al-Qaida in Afghanistan for eight months because of political hostility to the outgoing president and competing priorities, it was reported yesterday. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=1&cid=578&u=/nm/20020804/ts_nm/attack_pakistan_binladen_dc_1" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Pakistan Pres. Unsure Bin Laden Planned 9/11 - Report </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, a key ally in the U.S. fight against terrorism, is not convinced that Osama bin Laden was the mastermind behind the Sept. 11 attacks, according to a report on Sunday. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20020802/4329737s.htm" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>9/11 widows win support for commission</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> A group of women who lost their husbands in the collapse of the World Trade Center are beginning to change some minds about the need for an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 attacks. Their next target: pResident Bush. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/aug2002/bush-a02.shtml" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Bush mis-ministration moves to stifle discovery in 9/11 lawsuits</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Bush mis-ministration and the Department of Justice are moving to suppress evidence that could be used in discovery proceedings in several civil lawsuits resulting from the September 11 attack on the World Trade Center. In June, US District Judge Alvin Hellerstein was informed in a letter that the <font color="#ff0000"><b>Justice Department intends to intervene to control access to all evidence and documents related to the 9/11 attacks</b></font>.</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020802/ap_to_po/congress_leaks_investigation_5" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>FBI asks lawmakers to take lie detector test in Sept. 11 leak investigation </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The FBI has asked members of the House and Senate intelligence committees to take lie-detector tests as part of an investigation into the leak of information related to the Sept. 11 attacks, a law enforcement official said. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33821-2002Aug1.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>FBI Targeting Congress In Probe of Terror Leaks</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Angry House and Senate members assail the investigation's scope and question requests for polygraph tests -- <b>Many Spurn Polygraph Requests on Issue of NSA's 9/11 Intercept</b> --FBI agents have questioned nearly all 37 members of the Senate and House intelligence committees and have asked many if they would be willing to submit to lie detector tests as part of a broad investigation into leaks of classified information related to the Sept. 11 attacks, according to officials involved in the inquiry. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/27/nyregion/27POLI.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Report on 9/11 Finds Flaws in Response of Police Dept.</b> </font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The New York Police Department's response to the Sept. 11 attack was effective in many areas but suffered from lapses in leadership and coordination and a lack of proper planning and training, according to a draft report by an independent consultant for the department. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=536&e=6&cid=536&u=/ap/20020725/ap_on_go_co/attacks_intelligence_20" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>House OKs Independent 9/11 Probe </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The House voted Thursday to create an independent commission to study the Sept. 11 hijackings despite White House concerns <b>[i.e., fear of the truth emerging]</b> that the panel would distract intelligence agencies trying to prevent future attacks. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_10.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Israeli intelligence: Narco-terror profits funded Sept. 11 attack</b> </font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Profits from drugs shipped by Afghanistan were used by Al Qaida in carrying out the September 11 attacks, according to a classified report by Israel's police intelligence service. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/23/nyregion/23SECR.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Records of 9/11 Response Not for Public, City Says</b></font> </a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Bloomberg mis-ministration has concluded that many of the audio and written records of the Fire Department's actions on Sept. 11 should never be released to the general public.</font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/12/attack.airlines.reut/index.html" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>U.S. wants information limited in 9/11 airline suits</b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> U.S. prosecutors will argue in court on Friday that the government should be able to block the families of September 11 victims from obtaining sensitive airline information in wrongful death suits alleging inadequate security. [?!?] </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=533&e=5&cid=533&u=/ap/20020712/ap_on_re_us/attacks_restricting_information_3" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Feds Want Some 9/11 Data Kept Quiet </b></font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Injustice Department has asked a federal judge to limit public access to some information from injury and death lawsuits filed against airlines over the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. </font> </p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/11/nyregion/11FIRE.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Sept. 11 Tape Heard in Secret in Fire Inquiry</b></font> </a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> Under fire Commissioner Nicholas Scoppetta and Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, the Fire Department and the city's Law Department have taken the position that <b>oral history interviews of firefighters about the events of Sept. 11 are secret documents that can never be disclosed to the public </b>. </font></p> <p align="left"><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/10/national/10TERR.html?pagewanted=print&position=top" target="display"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><b>Sept. 11 Hijackers Said to Fake Data on Bank Accounts</b> </font></a><font face="Verdana" size="2"> The Sept. 11 hijackers were able to open 35 American bank accounts without having legitimate Social Security numbers and opened some of the accounts with fabricated Social Security numbers that were never checked or questioned by bank officials, a senior F.B.I. official said today. The hijackers relied most heavily on 14 accounts at SunTrust Banks, moving <font color="#ff0000"><b>$325,000</b></font> through accounts opened in Florida and taken out in the names of many of the hijackers. </font></p> <p align="center"><b><font face="Verdana" size="2"><font size="4"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"><a href="http://legitgov.org/9_1_1_oddities.html">9/11 Oddities</a></font></font></font></b> <br align="center"><font face="Verdana" size="2"> <a href="http://legitgov.org/9_1_1_oddities.html"><font size="4"></font></a></font></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p> </p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></td></tr></tbody></table><br> <br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1157942694464654952006-09-11T09:44:00.000+07:002006-09-11T09:50:52.300+07:00BYU suspends Prof. Steven E. Jones (9/11 Scholars for Truth) from teaching duties</span class=fullpost><div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"'><a href="http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,645200098,00.html">http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,645200098,00.html</a></span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1157739197023594702006-09-09T01:13:00.000+07:002006-09-09T09:07:12.550+07:00Gatekeeper Alex Cockburn Attacks 9/11 “Conspiracy Nuts”</span class=fullpost><p><table width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><a name="base2867473"><table id="table2867473" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" width="100%" bg style="color:#bde0ed;"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="2"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td><span class="blogtitle"><a href="http://kurtnimmo.com"><b>Another Day in the Empire</b></a></span><br /></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></td></tr><tr><td><div id="items2867473" style="DISPLAY: block"><table width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td><table width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><h2><a title="Site: Another Day in the Empire" href="http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=556">Gatekeeper Alex Cockburn Attacks 9/11 “Conspiracy Nuts”</a></h2>By Administrator on Uncategorized <p><p><img src="http://kurtnimmo.com/images/cockburn.jpg" align="left" />In now entirely predictable fashion, lefty gatekeeper <a class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog" href="http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20060907131938726" target="_blank">Alexander Cockburn</a> has issued a hit piece against nine eleven “conspiracy nuts,” in particular David Ray Griffin, described as “one of their high priests.” </p><p>According to Cockburn, writing for the subscription-based Nation web site—kudos to the anarchists at Infoshop who filched and reposted it—Griffin’s book, the New Pearl Harbor, is rife with “fundamental idiocy,” especially in regard to the ability of the government to pull off a terrorist attack. Moreover, Cockburn is onboard with Ward Churchill, who tells us Osama and crew, tucked away in a cave situated in one of the most remote and backwater countries on the planet, were indeed behind the attacks and to say otherwise makes one an honorary member of the Ku Klux Klan. </p><p>Barrie Zwicker tells us we need to wake up the gatekeepers, but nudging Cockburn out of his slumber will be quite a task. For “progressives” such as Cockburn, the United States government is nothing more or less than a habitual bumbler, a lumbering beast unable to get things right. </p><p>“One central characteristic of the nuts is that they have a devout, albeit preposterous, belief in American efficiency, and hence many of them start with the racist premise that ‘Arabs in caves’ weren’t capable of the mission,” writes Alex. “They believe that military systems work the way Pentagon press flacks and aerospace salesmen say they should work. They believe that at 8:14 am, when AA Flight 11 switched off its radio and transponder, an FAA flight controller should have called the National Military Command center and NORAD.” </p><p>In other words, the flight controller, hired for his or her ineptitude, as the government only interviews and hires incompetents, was busy playing tiddlywinks or sleeping in a bathroom stall when the hijacking occurred. </p><p>According to FAA regulations, when planes are hijacked the FAA hijack coordinator is contacted and a request is made to provide a military escort. Of course, since the flight controller was probably asleep at the wheel and government systems are terminally broken due to chronic imbecility, Cockburn would have us believe any number of flight controllers either didn’t notice or didn’t find it unusual when transponder and radio contact was lost with Flight 11. But not only was contact lost with the flight, it also deviated from its flight path. In addition, two airline attendants had separately called American Airlines reporting a hijacking. </p><p>No doubt the flight controllers on nine eleven were so inept a Federal Aviation Administration manager, Kevin Delaney, was obliged to destroy a tape containing their accounts. “Evidence in [a] report and from the air traffic controllers union suggests that the decisions to make the recording and later to destroy it were meant to conform to traditional protocols following a plane crash,” the <a class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A6892-2004May6&notFound=true" target="_blank">Washington Post</a> reported on May 7, 2004. “The actions also were aimed at protecting controllers who were under excessive stress and emotion, according to union officials representing the controllers.” In other words, destroying evidence is standard government procedure, especially for screw-up flight control employees. I bet this embarrassing oafishness is a direct result of Reagan firing all the flight controllers in order to break their union back in the 80s. </p><p>Half way through Cockburn’s article, we are provided with a glimmer of the source of his irritation with the “conspiracy nuts” and their “high priest,” David Ray Griffin. “My in-box overflows each day with fresh ‘proofs’ of how the towers were demolished. I meet people who start quietly, asking me what I think about 9/11. What they are actually trying to find out is whether I’m part of the coven. I imagine it is like being a normal Stoic in the second century AD going for a stroll in the forum and meeting some fellow asking, with seeming casualness, whether it’s possible to feed 5,000 people on five loaves of bread and a couple of fish.” </p><p>Cockburn is indeed a witty and talented scribe. However, when he attempts to explain away the demolition of the towers, he reveals himself as a flat-worlder, ignorant of the very laws of physics. </p><p>As you may guess, the towers went down, pulverized into fine dust, due to government and corporate inefficacy. “The demolition scenario is classic who-moved-the-stonery. The towers didn’t fall because they were badly built as a consequence of corruption, incompetence, regulatory evasions by the Port Authority and because they were struck by huge planes loaded with jet fuel. No, they collapsed because Dick Cheney’s agents methodically planted demolition charges in the preceding days. It was a conspiracy of thousands, all of whom—party to mass murder—have held their tongues ever since.” </p><p>Never mind that Hyman Brown, a University of Colorado civil engineering professor and the World Trade Center’s construction manager, has stated that WTC 1 and 2 were designed to survive an impact and fires from a collision by the largest commercial aircraft at the time, a Boeing 707-340. “The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door—this intense grid—and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting,” explained the late <a class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog" href="http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html" target="_blank">Frank A. Demartini</a>, on-site construction manager for the WTC, who perished during the attacks. No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has ever collapsed due to fire. </p><p>According to Cockburn, people inside the buildings did not hear explosions. In fact, Edmund McNally phoned his wife Liz twice following the impact of the planes and told her “I can hear explosions below me,” according to a report published in the New York Times. Tom Elliott, survivor of WTC 2, told the Christian Science Monitor “those around him thought an explosion had come from below,” an “incredible noise—he calls it an ‘exploding sound’—shook the building, and a tornado of hot air and smoke and ceiling tiles and bits of drywall came flying up the stairwell.” Lou Cacchioli, Christopher Fenyo, William Reynolds, and other firefighters, including Lieutenant Fireman and former Auxiliary Police Officer, Paul Isaac Jr., reported explosions. If Cockburn is still incredulous, he needs to take a listen to radio transmissions of North Brunswick Volunteer Fire/Ladder Company #3, chockfull of firefighters reporting secondary explosions. </p><p>It’s a tough job being a gatekeeper with so much damning evidence floating around. </p><p>Back in the day, I wrote on an irregular basis for Cockburn’s Counterpunch. However, I decided to stop doing this after Cockburn more or less called me a conspiracy nut. On October 3, 2002, Counterpunch posted my <a class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog" href="http://www.counterpunch.org/nimmo1003.html" target="_blank">Amiri Baraka’s Somebody Blew Up America: Poetry as Treason?</a> “As for Baraka’s assertion that both the US and Israeli government had prior knowledge of the September 11 attacks, there is clear, ample, and documented evidence they most certainly did,” I wrote, and then listed the Odigo warning, the 4,744 put options on United Airlines stock, the warnings of imminent attack issued by German, Jordanian, and Russian intelligence. For posting this article, subsequently published in The Politics of Anti-Semitism anthology, Cockburn apparently received a bit of grief from his gatekeeper pals. </p><p>“The reasons for the intense denial about the 9/11/01 attack inside the Left establishment appear to go much deeper than the fact that many of its institutions are funded by endowments like those of the Ford Foundation. The official myth appeals to political philosophies that condemn U.S. imperialism by providing the supreme example of ‘blowback’—the proverbial chickens coming home to roost. Researcher August West speaks to this and other psychological underpinnings of the denial,” notes the <a class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog" href="http://911review.com/denial/gatekeepers.html" target="_blank">9-11 Review</a> website.</p><p>West writes: </p><blockquote><p>Beneath unconscious motivations also lie some conscious agendas. Those on the Left who have embraced “critical support” for a “limited response” war will no doubt not wish to have their political bankruptcy exposed. But even most of those who oppose the War have nevertheless accepted the notion that the U.S. was attacked by a vicious enemy. For some, this represents an opportunity to promote their moralistic approach: let us respond in an appropriate, moral and non-military manner. Others, such as Chomsky, Michael Albert, Howard Zinn and Alex Cockburn, simply trot out the “blowback” explanation: this horrible attack happened because America has done bad things, has not listened to “us” (wag, wag the finger), and better start changing its policies (as if an empire can be run in a nice way!). Yet others who disagree with war boosters like Katrina van den Heuvel of The Nation nevertheless buy their thesis that the war promotes increasing state powers (e.g., making airport baggage inspectors federal employees), and this amounts to a move towards “socialism”. If the events of 9/11 were not what they seemed to be, this takes away the chance to promote these political programs, perhaps to even advance certain careers.</p></blockquote><p>Indeed, the careerist gatekeepers deny the physical nature of the universe itself—kerosene cannot melt steel, buildings do not collapse at free fall, as Isaac Newton would tell us, if he was around to witness the destruction of the WTC. </p><p>Of course, all of this runs smack into the immovable brick wall of the “progressive” ideology with its blue sky insistence nine eleven was in fact a noble blow struck by oppressed Arabs conniving in Afghan caves, never mind their leader was a former CIA asset hailing from a rich Saudi family with ties to the monarchy and the Bush crime family, as amply documented.</p></td></tr><tr><td><p><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" align="left"><a href="http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=556#comments">Comments</a> </td><td valign="top" align="right"><br /></td></tr></tbody></table></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table></p><br /><br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1157690765005703032006-09-08T11:46:00.000+07:002006-09-08T11:46:05.036+07:00The Disbelievers</span class=fullpost><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/07/AR2006090701669.html">The Disbelievers: Washington Post does a serious article about 9/11 Truth</a><br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1157681948195896252006-09-08T09:19:00.000+07:002006-09-08T09:21:49.360+07:00BUSH GOING AHEAD W/ "UNLAWFUL COMBATANT" LAW</span class=fullpost><p><table width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><a name="base3127906"><table id="table3127906" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" width="100%" bg style="color:#bde0ed;"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="2"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td><span class="blogtitle"><a href="http://www.cosmiciguana.com/"><b>Cosmic Iguana - Voice of the Evil Doers</b></a></span><br />Faith-based News for Extra-Terrestrials </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></td></tr><tr><td><div id="items3127906" style="DISPLAY: block"><table width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td><table width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><h2><a title="Site: Cosmic Iguana - Voice of the Evil Doers" href="http://www.cosmiciguana.com/2006/09/bush_going_ahead_w_unlawful_co.html">BUSH GOING AHEAD W/ "UNLAWFUL COMBATANT" LAW</a></h2>By cosmici <p><div><p>AP: </p><blockquote>The Bush administration is expected to unveil a new plan Wednesday to change the law so that "unlawful combatants" held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, can be tried for crimes before military tribunals.... <a class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog" href="http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060906/D8JVC5M00.html" target="_blank">[*]</a></blockquote><p>The only problem is, there is and should be no such thing. If you are unlawful to the nation's laws you are a criminal and are subject to criminal law. If you are fighting the nation, then you are a prisoner of war. Both categories have legal protections.</p><p>BushCo created a new category precisely because they wanted to violate those protections - If you are a prisoner of war you can only be asked name, rank, and serial number. If you are a prisoner you have a right to a lawyer and a speedy trial. BushCo wanted and still wants unlimited detention, questioning and denial of legal access. They were smacked down by the courts and they should be again.</p></div></td></tr><tr><td><p><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" align="left"></td><td valign="top" align="right"><br /></td></tr></tbody></table></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table></p><br /><br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1157681902705423872006-09-08T09:18:00.000+07:002006-09-08T09:23:35.096+07:00More from the Parallel Universe(s)</span class=fullpost><p><br /><table width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><a name="base1295537"><table id="table1295537" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5" width="100%" bg style="color:#bde0ed;"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="2"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td><span class="blogtitle"><a href="http://sheanc.blogspot.com"><b>Constantly Amazed, Yet Never Surprised</b></a></span><br />"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt. ...We must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost." - Thomas Jefferson </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></td></tr><tr><td><div id="items1295537" style="DISPLAY: block"><table width="100%"><tbody><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td><table width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><h2><a title="Site: Constantly Amazed, Yet Never Surprised" href="http://sheanc.blogspot.com/2006/09/more-from-parallel-universes.html">More from the Parallel Universe(s)</a></h2>By SheaNC <p><div>So Rumsfeld wishes to compare us (who stand in opposition to the neocon bloodbath) to Nazis. Rumsfeld, a Nazi who works for Nazis! I know the web is awash with great responses. I thought I might add a few bits from an article called <a class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog" href="http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0403a.asp" target="_blank">How Hitler Became a Dictator</a> by Jacob G. Hornberger.<br /><br />Compare this to the 9/11 incident: <blockquote>The Reichstag fire<br /><br />On February 27, Hitler was enjoying supper at the Goebbels home when the telephone rang with an emergency message: “The Reichstag is on fire!” Hitler and Goebbels rushed to the fire, where they encountered Hermann Goering, who would later become Hitler’s air minister. Goering was shouting at the top of his lungs, "This is the beginning of the Communist revolution! We must not wait a minute. We will show no mercy. Every Communist official must be shot, where he is found. Every Communist deputy must this very day be strung up."<br /><br />The day after the fire, the Prussian government announced that it had found communist publications stating Government buildings, museums, mansions and essential plants were to be burned down... Why would Hitler and his associates turn a blind eye to an impending terrorist attack on their national congressional building or actually assist with such a horrific deed? Because they knew what government officials have known throughout history — that during extreme national emergencies, people are most scared and thus much more willing to surrender their liberties in return for “security.” And that’s exactly what happened during the Reichstag terrorist crisis.</blockquote>And, compare this to <a class="blines3" title="Link outside of this blog" href="http://www.infowars.com/HR_3162.html" target="_blank">the Patriot Act</a>: <blockquote>The day after the fire, Hitler persuaded President Hindenburg to issue a decree entitled, “For the Protection of the People and the State.” Justified as a “defensive measure against Communist acts of violence endangering the state,” the decree suspended the constitutional guarantees pertaining to civil liberties:<br /><br />Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and association; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications; and warrants for house searches, orders for confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed. Two weeks after the Reichstag fire, Hitler requested the Reichstag to temporarily delegate its powers to him so that he could adequately deal with the crisis. Denouncing opponents to his request, Hitler shouted, “Germany will be free, but not through you!” When the vote was taken, the result was 441 for and 84 against, giving Hitler the two-thirds majority he needed to suspend the German constitution. On March 23, 1933, what has gone down in German history as the “Enabling Act” made Hitler dictator of Germany, freed of all legislative and constitutional constraints.</blockquote>Or this, the Nazi model for the Neocons' system of capturing their enemies: <blockquote>The Nazis also implemented a legal concept called Schutzhaft or “protective custody” which enabled them to arrest and incarcerate people without charging them with a crime.</blockquote>And finally, <blockquote>Oddly enough, even though his dictatorship very quickly became complete, Hitler returned to the Reichstag every four years to renew the “temporary” delegation of emergency powers that it had given him to deal with the Reichstag-arson crisis. Needless to say, the Reichstag rubber-stamped each of his requests.<br /><br />For their part, the German people quickly accepted the new order of things... The overwhelming majority of Germans did not seem to mind that their personal freedom had been taken away, that so much of culture had been destroyed and replaced with a mindless barbarism, or that their life and work had become regimented to a degree never before experienced even by a people accustomed for generations to a great deal of regimentation... The Nazi terror in the early years affected the lives of relatively few Germans and a newly arrived observer was somewhat surprised to see that the people of this country did not seem to feel that they were being cowed... On the contrary, they supported it with genuine enthusiasm. Somehow it imbued them with a new hope and a new confidence and an astonishing faith in the future of their country.</blockquote>The only thing worse than Nazis, is Nazis who have learned from their history how to succeed.</div></td></tr><tr><td><p><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" align="left"></td><td valign="top" align="right"><br /></td></tr></tbody></table></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table></p><br /><br /><span class=fullpost>Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14630840126773177630noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7930466.post-1157678663111012342006-09-08T08:24:00.000+07:002006-09-08T09:26:09.246+07:00[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1469</span class=fullpost><div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="WIDTH: 665px"><div id="ygrp-banner"><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMmRmdmhqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARzZWMDaGRyBHNsawNocGgEc3RpbWUDMTE1NzY3ODI0Mw--">911 Truth Action </a></div><div id="ygrp-msg" style="PADDING-RIGHT: 15px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; Z-INDEX: 1; FLOAT: left; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; WIDTH: 490px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"><h1>Messages In This Digest (25 Messages) </h1><div id="ygrp-summary"><a name="toc"></a><dl><dt>1a. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#1a">Re: Nico Haupt the grand old man of false-opposition gate-keeper</a> From: Jolly Roger </dd><dt>1b. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#1b">Re: Nico Haupt the grand old man of false-opposition gate-keeper</a> From: Jolly Roger </dd></dl><dl><dt>2. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#2">Fwd: [American Holocaust] Bush: If You Disagree With Government on</a> From: Joanne Murphy </dd></dl><dl><dt>3. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#3">New Column by Chussodovsky---MUST READ!</a> From: Joanne Murphy </dd></dl><dl><dt>4. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#4">How did WTC 7 collapse if it wasn't a controlled demolition?</a> From: James Patton </dd></dl><dl><dt>5. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#5">A Day in the Life: 9/7/6</a> From: President, USA Exile Govt. </dd></dl><dl><dt>6. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#6">Re: another mainstream 9/11 article - kudos to Barrie Zwicker</a> From: JP Liggett </dd></dl><dl><dt>7. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#7">Michel Chossudovsky: The Next Phase of the Middle East War</a> From: Dick Eastman </dd></dl><dl><dt>8. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#8">unrealistic (straw man) assumptions about what demolition by thermat</a> From: Dick Eastman </dd></dl><dl><dt>9. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#9">President Bush's speech, 9/11 Fives Years Later</a> From: APFN </dd></dl><dl><dt>10. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#10">Re: 9/11 Reminder</a> From: Pay_the_Piper </dd></dl><dl><dt>11. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#11">Fw: Iraq for Sale launch week</a> From: Victor Forsythe </dd></dl><dl><dt>12. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#12">Clinton GOES BALLISTIC ON ABC ABOUT ITS DAMNING 9/11 MOVIE By IAN B</a> From: ranger116@webtv.net </dd></dl><dl><dt>13a. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#13a">9/11Truth Seeker from C-Span Hearing USRepCandidate Wins Fl.Primary+</a> From: ranger116@webtv.net </dd><dt>13b. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#13b">Re: 9/11Truth Seeker from C-Span Hearing USRepCandidate Wins</a> From: Total Information </dd></dl><dl><dt>14. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#14">Smoking Gun: Bush STOLE Election 2004</a> From: Joanne Murphy </dd></dl><dl><dt>15. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#15">Documentary - �9/11: Press For Truth�</a> From: APFN </dd></dl><dl><dt>16. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#16">Full schedule of DC events for 9/11/06</a> From: Total Information </dd></dl><dl><dt>17. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#17">molten steel at the WTC -- the implications are inescapable</a> From: Dick Eastman </dd></dl><dl><dt>18. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#18">This Should Be Circulated Widely</a> From: Joe Stokes </dd></dl><dl><dt>19a. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#19a">reviews for "9/11: Press For Truth"</a> From: Adam Jones </dd><dt>19b. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#19b">reviews for "9/11: Press For Truth"</a> From: Adam Jones </dd></dl><dl><dt>20. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#20">Scholastic squashes 'The Path to 9/11' guide</a> From: Joe Stokes </dd></dl><dl><dt>21. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#21">Fwd: [ParanoidTimes] Audio: Myron C. Fagan's Illuminati and the CFR</a> From: Kevin Lee Hammond </dd></dl><dl><dt>22. </dt><dd><a class="ygrp-subj" href="#22">Senate Democratic leadership threatens Disney with legal and</a> From: Joe Stokes </dd></dl></div><div style="DISPLAY: inline; FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 77%; FLOAT: right; PADDING-TOP: 5px"><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJnNGg1MWlpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDYXRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?xm=1&m=p&tidx=1">View All Topics</a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJncmx2N2szBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDbnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz">Create New Topic</a> </div><h1>Messages </h1><div id="ygrp-detail"><dl class="first"><dt>1a. </dt><dd><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27783;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbzg4aW5uBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4MwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="1a">Re: Nico Haupt the grand old man of false-opposition gate-keeper </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Jolly Roger" <a href="mailto:internetspies@yahoo.com?Subject=">mailto:internetspies@yahoo.com?Subject=</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/internetspies">internetspies </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 9:13 am (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content">Nico's been working for the enemy for years, and now Judy Cuntingham is working hard to discredit the scholors for 9-11 truth.<br />I happy to say I booted both of them.<br />Get used to the fact that there are more people in the "truth movement" trying to bury the truth than expose it. It's always been that way, and most of the people on this list should by now be able to identify and marginalize the non-sense quickly.<br /><br />Dick Eastman <<a href="mailto:olfriend@nwinfo.net">olfriend@nwinfo.<wbr>net</a>> wrote:<br /><br /><br />From: "Jim Monroe" <<a href="mailto:jmonroe1@twcny.rr.com">jmonroe1@twcny.<wbr>rr.com</a>><br /><br />You know, I've always asserted that it was counterproductive to label each<br />other as Cointelpro types and I've always thought that Nico was just an<br />energetic overzealous, somewhat batty investigator.<br /><br />However he has always been the first one to accuse others of being a plant.<br />I remember thinking many years ago that his holding up that banner when the<br />victims' families were just getting their first viewing of the rubble was<br />going to make us look insensitive and stupid. HMMM.<br /><br />Also, I remember being at the Rethug National Crookvention in NYC working<br />for the National Lawyers Guild and anyone that pulled a stunt like that<br />being beaten and thrown in a cage by that Napolean complex police chief.<br /><br />Why was Nico able to stand there for so many days without anything more than<br />a few people yelling at him????????? HMMMM?<br /><br />I am pretty sure Nico is someone we ALL need to distance ourselves from.<br /><br />I once felt the need to send letters to some local justices of the peace<br />disassociating myself with a certain private investigator who was using my<br />name as an entree.<br /><br />Years later when he was indicted for fraud, I felt vindicated and I breathed<br />a sigh of relief that I had also contacted the state police and made a<br />record of his false assertions of working for my office. (He had once served<br />some subpoenas for me...badly and I fired him.)<br /><br />After his indictment he alleged to the police that he could "take me down"<br />for them. They immediately came to me to warn me. Now he's lost his<br />license and has been completely discredited.<br /><br />I think it is a good idea for each affected group to make a public record of<br />their disengagement and disenfranchisement with Nico and TVfakery or<br />whatever his latest insane rant is. It will be something we will not<br />regret.<br /><br />Jim Monroe<br /><br />----- Original Message -----<br />From: "Leland Lehrman" <<a href="mailto:leland.lehrman@gmail.com">leland.lehrman@<wbr>gmail.com</a>><br />To: "Nico Haupt" <<a href="mailto:nicohaupt2@yahoo.com">nicohaupt2@yahoo.<wbr>com</a>><br />Cc: "Rick Siegel" <<a href="mailto:rick@ricksiegel.com">rick@ricksiegel.<wbr>com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:kylehence@earthlink.net">kylehence@earthlink<wbr>.net</a>>; "Gregory<br />Zeigler" <<a href="mailto:gzeigler@cybermesa.com">gzeigler@cybermesa.<wbr>com</a>>; "AK Dewdney" <<a href="mailto:a.d.k@sympatico.ca">a.d.k@sympatico.<wbr>ca</a>>; "jim<br />fetzer" <<a href="mailto:jfetzer@d.umn.edu">jfetzer@d.umn.<wbr>edu</a>>; "Dick Eastman" <<a href="mailto:olfriend@nwinfo.net">olfriend@nwinfo.<wbr>net</a>>; "Steve<br />Jones" <<a href="mailto:HardEvidence@gmail.com">HardEvidence@<wbr>gmail.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:mark@cosmicpenguin.com">mark@cosmicpenguin.<wbr>com</a>>;<br /><<a href="mailto:webstertarpley@yahoo.com">webstertarpley@<wbr>yahoo.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:PainfulQuestions@aol.com">PainfulQuestions@<wbr>aol.com</a>>; "Daryl Bradford<br />Smith" <<a href="mailto:iamthewitness@hotmail.com">iamthewitness@<wbr>hotmail.com</a>>; "esalter1" <<a href="mailto:esalter1@mindspring.com">esalter1@mindspring<wbr>.com</a>>;<br />"brian" <<a href="mailto:brian@questionsquestions.net">brian@questionsques<wbr>tions.net</a>>; "Pedro Romero"<br /><<a href="mailto:romesedeno@yahoo.com">romesedeno@yahoo.<wbr>com</a>>; "The Alex Jones Show" <<a href="mailto:producer@infowars.com">producer@infowars.<wbr>com</a>>;<br />"Kevin Barrett" <<a href="mailto:khidria@merr.com">khidria@merr.<wbr>com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:Wtcqd2000@aol.com">Wtcqd2000@aol.<wbr>com</a>>;<br /><<a href="mailto:alf@freedomisforeverybody.org">alf@freedomisforeve<wbr>rybody.org</a>>; <<a href="mailto:savorsuccesslady3@yahoo.com">savorsuccesslady3@<wbr>yahoo.com</a>>; "Mia Hamel"<br /><<a href="mailto:mhamel@tampabay.rr.com">mhamel@tampabay.<wbr>rr.com</a>>; "STEVAN D LOONEY" <<a href="mailto:stevand_looney121@msn.com">stevand_looney121@<wbr>msn.com</a>>;<br /><<a href="mailto:911truthalliance@lists.riseup.net">911truthalliance@<wbr>lists.riseup.<wbr>net</a>>; <<a href="mailto:hardevidence@cosmicpenguin.com">hardevidence@<wbr>cosmicpenguin.<wbr>com</a>>;<br /><<a href="mailto:nico@911closeup.com">nico@911closeup.<wbr>com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:nicohaupt@gmx.li">nicohaupt@gmx.<wbr>li</a>>; <<a href="mailto:sightings@mindspring.com">sightings@mindsprin<wbr>g.com</a>><br />Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:40 AM<br />Subject: [911truthalliance] No Planes Theorists "Crash" 911 Blogs, Assert<br />Internet is "Under Control"<br /><br />> The messages below from Nico Haupt are clear indications of the intent<br />> of the no plane theorists. Their objective is to "crash", ie<br />> overwhelm, the internet with their spurious allegations and to put it<br />> "under control." Also, since they have no evidence, they spend time<br />> "re-visualizing" it. I'll say.<br />><br />> Can this possibly be considered constructive?<br />><br />> Leland<br />><br />> On 9/5/06, Nico Haupt <<a href="mailto:nicohaupt2@yahoo.com">nicohaupt2@yahoo.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br />>><br />>> Also the rabid planehugger chatters at 911blogger.com are now finally in<br />>> the minority at 911blogger.com, while we're crashing their Blog Top 10<br />>> charts with our topic, also with an increased civilized debate and a few<br />>> new supporters, re-visualizing our evidence.<br />>><br />>> Even the old anti-blogs are now under control with a few smart ass junk<br />>> scientists, though as i said, less rabid (imgstacke etc...)<br />>><br />>> There Were Planes At The World Trade Center, Period<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2340">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2340</a><br />>><br />>> Video Fakery in Evidence<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2475">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2475</a><br />>><br />>><br />>> Top 30 Evidence for 9/11 TV Fakery<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2377">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2377</a><br />>><br />>><br />>> What is That Sticking Out the South Tower???<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2532">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2532</a><br />>><br />>> 9/11 planes must of had Pentanium wings & tails!<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2445">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2445</a><br />>><br />>> If Professor Jones has anything useful to say,<br />>> he can show up over there as well.....<br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> Nico Haupt <<a href="mailto:nicohaupt2@yahoo.com">nicohaupt2@yahoo.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br />>> Leland,<br />>><br />>> and i haven't seen any constructive feedback on the issue either.<br />>> Simplistic attacks or threats, junk science, orwellian memes, ignorance<br />>> and contradictive witness accounts is all what planehuggers have.<br />>><br />>> You guys do support the matrix, i don't.<br />>><br />>> <a href="http://www.911tvfakery.net/">http://www.911tvfak<wbr>ery.net/</a><br />>><br />>><br />>> Tuesday, September 05, 2006<br />>> Total Information Radio: Nico Haupt on 9/11 TV fakery<br />>> Total Information Radio: Nico Haupt on 9/11 TV fakery<br />>> Monday, September 04, 2006<br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> <a href="http://www.total411.info/">http://www.total411<wbr>.info/</a><br />>><br />>> Tonight's edition of Total Information Radio features guest Nico Haupt on<br />>> 9/11 TV fakery. Haupt reports on the political progress of the meme and<br />>> dissects the 9/11 video footage. Haupt concludes by saying that if the<br />>> 9/11 TV fakery matrix is not cracked, humanity will become irrevocably<br />>> enthralled to a false Virtual-Reality/<wbr>Augmented-<wbr>Reality slavery grid.<br />>><br />>> Temporary Archive Link<br />>> Mirrors here:<br />>> <a href="http://www.total411.info/2006/060904TOTALRADIO.mp3">http://www.total411<wbr>.info/2006/<wbr>060904TOTALRADIO<wbr>.mp3</a><br />>> <a href="http://www.revereradio.net/411/2006/August/411radio9-4-06.mp3">http://www.reverera<wbr>dio.net/411/<wbr>2006/August/<wbr>411radio9-<wbr>4-06.mp3</a><br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> Friday, September 01, 2006<br />>> NY Villager mentions Haupt and TV Fakery<br />>> NY Villager mentions Haupt and TV Fakery<br />>> September 1, 2006<br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> <a href="http://www.thevillager.com/villager_174/5yearslater.html">http://www.thevilla<wbr>ger.com/villager<wbr>_174/5yearslater<wbr>.html</a><br />>> Volume 76, Number 15 August 30 -September 5, 2006<br />>><br />>> 5 years later, 9/11 skeptics feel they're close to truth<br />>> By David Spett<br />>><br />>> "...One 9/11 Truth member, Nico Haupt, believes the conspiracy behind<br />>> 9/11 extends beyond the government. At the Aug. 6 St. Mark's meeting,<br />>> Haupt criticized the mainstream 9/11 Truth movement, saying it has<br />>> "oppressed" his questions and research.<br />>><br />>> "I created a science group in 2002, which were working for four years,<br />>> hard, 24/7, opposed by leaders close to the 9/11 Truth movement," Haupt<br />>> told the audience, adding that his science group consists of nine<br />>> researchers and 600 members.<br />>><br />>> The group's findings were surprising.<br />>><br />>> "I believe that Cleveland is the final smoking gun for the passengers<br />>> [of United 93]. I believe the conspiracy theory that the F.B.I. and the<br />>> NASA together killed these passengers, either there or they got already<br />>> killed on board," Haupt said, waving several crumpled sheets of paper as<br />>> evidence. "I don't need to prove anymore what happens to passengers. I<br />>> don't need to prove anymore what happens to planes. All I can bring is<br />>> fact."<br />>><br />>> Missiles, not planes, hit the Twin Towers, Haupt added, and all the<br />>> footage on television and in newspapers has been edited.<br />>><br />>> After Haupt's speech, one man, who declined to give his name, said Haupt<br />>> represented "the fringe of our movement." It's "irresponsible" to say<br />>> missiles hit the W.T.C., the man said, but "parts of that argument have<br />>> merit."<br />>><br />>> "Still, we should lead with our strongest arguments," the man added.<br />>><br />>> Morales, echoing that statement, said he didn't believe Haupt yet but<br />>> would listen to a full presentation of Haupt's research and keep an open<br />>> mind.<br />>> In a telephone interview, Morales defended Haupt's opinion: "What he<br />>> thinks is his opinion, but he also makes it clear that he separates<br />>> opinion from conclusion. He's not prepared to make a scientific<br />>> conclusion or at least a quasiscientific conclusion. His strong point,<br />>> which I tend more to agree with, is that the footage, the various<br />>> mainstream media footage, seems to have been doctored..."<br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> Wednesday, August 30, 2006<br />>> Top 30 Evidence for 9/11 TV Fakery (08/30)<br />>> Top 30 Evidence for 9/11 TV Fakery<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2377">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2377</a><br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> Another 9/11 Scholar speaks out pro "no plane theory"<br />>> Judy Cunningham, st911.org<br />>> Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:06 pm<br />>> <a href="http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=668">http://www.blogline<wbr>s.com/blog/<wbr>ewing2001?<wbr>id=668</a><br />>><br />>> "...I believe Nico's theory of no planes. There was obviously no plane<br />>> that hit the Pentagon. I believe that the videos of the plane hitting the<br />>> WTC were digitally mastered cartoons. It is obvious, if you look at the<br />>> films, closely. In some, it appears that the planes go into the building<br />>> like butter, and others are different from other videos of the same<br />>> scene!!!! It took me years to realized that, but now I believe it!!! Even<br />>> if there wern't so much evidence, we cannot dismiss any theories of<br />>> corruption in government, when so much harm has been done to the<br />>> Constitution, the economy, homeless people, and the whole world is<br />>> threatened with death, starvation, slavery, etc. Judy..."<br />>><br />>><br /><br />No virus found in this outgoing message.<br />Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br />Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.0/439 - Release Date: 9/6/2006<br /><br /><br />------------<wbr>---------<wbr>---------<wbr>---<br />Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2�/min or less. </div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:internetspies@yahoo.com?Subject=">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzOWM3bDdnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4MwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27783">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27774;_ylc=X3oDMTM4bXE5bzhkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4MwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3Nzc0">Messages in this topic </a>(3) </div></dd><dt>1b. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27786;_ylc=X3oDMTJzaGN1dGhnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4NgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="1b">Re: Nico Haupt the grand old man of false-opposition gate-keeper </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Jolly Roger" <a href="mailto:internetspies@yahoo.com?Subject=">mailto:internetspies@yahoo.com?Subject=</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/internetspies">internetspies </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 9:32 am (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content">Judy also distributed her "science" 9-1 truth flyer to about 50 groups. It's jam-packed with enough garbage to make anyone handing it out look like an idiot. The scholors for 9-11 truth need to clean house. Bye-bye "Dr. Judy." Scholor, my ass.<br /><br />Jolly Roger <<a href="mailto:internetspies@yahoo.com">internetspies@<wbr>yahoo.com</a>> wrote: Nico's been working for the enemy for years, and now Judy Cuntingham is working hard to discredit the scholors for 9-11 truth.<br />I happy to say I booted both of them.<br />Get used to the fact that there are more people in the "truth movement" trying to bury the truth than expose it. It's always been that way, and most of the people on this list should by now be able to identify and marginalize the non-sense quickly.<br /><br />Dick Eastman <<a href="mailto:olfriend@nwinfo.net">olfriend@nwinfo.<wbr>net</a>> wrote:<br /><br /><br />From: "Jim Monroe" <<a href="mailto:jmonroe1@twcny.rr.com">jmonroe1@twcny.<wbr>rr.com</a>><br /><br />You know, I've always asserted that it was counterproductive to label each<br />other as Cointelpro types and I've always thought that Nico was just an<br />energetic overzealous, somewhat batty investigator.<br /><br />However he has always been the first one to accuse others of being a plant.<br />I remember thinking many years ago that his holding up that banner when the<br />victims' families were just getting their first viewing of the rubble was<br />going to make us look insensitive and stupid. HMMM.<br /><br />Also, I remember being at the Rethug National Crookvention in NYC working<br />for the National Lawyers Guild and anyone that pulled a stunt like that<br />being beaten and thrown in a cage by that Napolean complex police chief.<br /><br />Why was Nico able to stand there for so many days without anything more than<br />a few people yelling at him????????? HMMMM?<br /><br />I am pretty sure Nico is someone we ALL need to distance ourselves from.<br /><br />I once felt the need to send letters to some local justices of the peace<br />disassociating myself with a certain private investigator who was using my<br />name as an entree.<br /><br />Years later when he was indicted for fraud, I felt vindicated and I breathed<br />a sigh of relief that I had also contacted the state police and made a<br />record of his false assertions of working for my office. (He had once served<br />some subpoenas for me...badly and I fired him.)<br /><br />After his indictment he alleged to the police that he could "take me down"<br />for them. They immediately came to me to warn me. Now he's lost his<br />license and has been completely discredited.<br /><br />I think it is a good idea for each affected group to make a public record of<br />their disengagement and disenfranchisement with Nico and TVfakery or<br />whatever his latest insane rant is. It will be something we will not<br />regret.<br /><br />Jim Monroe<br /><br />----- Original Message -----<br />From: "Leland Lehrman" <<a href="mailto:leland.lehrman@gmail.com">leland.lehrman@<wbr>gmail.com</a>><br />To: "Nico Haupt" <<a href="mailto:nicohaupt2@yahoo.com">nicohaupt2@yahoo.<wbr>com</a>><br />Cc: "Rick Siegel" <<a href="mailto:rick@ricksiegel.com">rick@ricksiegel.<wbr>com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:kylehence@earthlink.net">kylehence@earthlink<wbr>.net</a>>; "Gregory<br />Zeigler" <<a href="mailto:gzeigler@cybermesa.com">gzeigler@cybermesa.<wbr>com</a>>; "AK Dewdney" <<a href="mailto:a.d.k@sympatico.ca">a.d.k@sympatico.<wbr>ca</a>>; "jim<br />fetzer" <<a href="mailto:jfetzer@d.umn.edu">jfetzer@d.umn.<wbr>edu</a>>; "Dick Eastman" <<a href="mailto:olfriend@nwinfo.net">olfriend@nwinfo.<wbr>net</a>>; "Steve<br />Jones" <<a href="mailto:HardEvidence@gmail.com">HardEvidence@<wbr>gmail.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:mark@cosmicpenguin.com">mark@cosmicpenguin.<wbr>com</a>>;<br /><<a href="mailto:webstertarpley@yahoo.com">webstertarpley@<wbr>yahoo.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:PainfulQuestions@aol.com">PainfulQuestions@<wbr>aol.com</a>>; "Daryl Bradford<br />Smith" <<a href="mailto:iamthewitness@hotmail.com">iamthewitness@<wbr>hotmail.com</a>>; "esalter1" <<a href="mailto:esalter1@mindspring.com">esalter1@mindspring<wbr>.com</a>>;<br />"brian" <<a href="mailto:brian@questionsquestions.net">brian@questionsques<wbr>tions.net</a>>; "Pedro Romero"<br /><<a href="mailto:romesedeno@yahoo.com">romesedeno@yahoo.<wbr>com</a>>; "The Alex Jones Show" <<a href="mailto:producer@infowars.com">producer@infowars.<wbr>com</a>>;<br />"Kevin Barrett" <<a href="mailto:khidria@merr.com">khidria@merr.<wbr>com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:Wtcqd2000@aol.com">Wtcqd2000@aol.<wbr>com</a>>;<br /><<a href="mailto:alf@freedomisforeverybody.org">alf@freedomisforeve<wbr>rybody.org</a>>; <<a href="mailto:savorsuccesslady3@yahoo.com">savorsuccesslady3@<wbr>yahoo.com</a>>; "Mia Hamel"<br /><<a href="mailto:mhamel@tampabay.rr.com">mhamel@tampabay.<wbr>rr.com</a>>; "STEVAN D LOONEY" <<a href="mailto:stevand_looney121@msn.com">stevand_looney121@<wbr>msn.com</a>>;<br /><<a href="mailto:911truthalliance@lists.riseup.net">911truthalliance@<wbr>lists.riseup.<wbr>net</a>>; <<a href="mailto:hardevidence@cosmicpenguin.com">hardevidence@<wbr>cosmicpenguin.<wbr>com</a>>;<br /><<a href="mailto:nico@911closeup.com">nico@911closeup.<wbr>com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:nicohaupt@gmx.li">nicohaupt@gmx.<wbr>li</a>>; <<a href="mailto:sightings@mindspring.com">sightings@mindsprin<wbr>g.com</a>><br />Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:40 AM<br />Subject: [911truthalliance] No Planes Theorists "Crash" 911 Blogs, Assert<br />Internet is "Under Control"<br /><br />> The messages below from Nico Haupt are clear indications of the intent<br />> of the no plane theorists. Their objective is to "crash", ie<br />> overwhelm, the internet with their spurious allegations and to put it<br />> "under control." Also, since they have no evidence, they spend time<br />> "re-visualizing" it. I'll say.<br />><br />> Can this possibly be considered constructive?<br />><br />> Leland<br />><br />> On 9/5/06, Nico Haupt <<a href="mailto:nicohaupt2@yahoo.com">nicohaupt2@yahoo.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br />>><br />>> Also the rabid planehugger chatters at 911blogger.com are now finally in<br />>> the minority at 911blogger.com, while we're crashing their Blog Top 10<br />>> charts with our topic, also with an increased civilized debate and a few<br />>> new supporters, re-visualizing our evidence.<br />>><br />>> Even the old anti-blogs are now under control with a few smart ass junk<br />>> scientists, though as i said, less rabid (imgstacke etc...)<br />>><br />>> There Were Planes At The World Trade Center, Period<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2340">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2340</a><br />>><br />>> Video Fakery in Evidence<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2475">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2475</a><br />>><br />>><br />>> Top 30 Evidence for 9/11 TV Fakery<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2377">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2377</a><br />>><br />>><br />>> What is That Sticking Out the South Tower???<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2532">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2532</a><br />>><br />>> 9/11 planes must of had Pentanium wings & tails!<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2445">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2445</a><br />>><br />>> If Professor Jones has anything useful to say,<br />>> he can show up over there as well.....<br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> Nico Haupt <<a href="mailto:nicohaupt2@yahoo.com">nicohaupt2@yahoo.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br />>> Leland,<br />>><br />>> and i haven't seen any constructive feedback on the issue either.<br />>> Simplistic attacks or threats, junk science, orwellian memes, ignorance<br />>> and contradictive witness accounts is all what planehuggers have.<br />>><br />>> You guys do support the matrix, i don't.<br />>><br />>> <a href="http://www.911tvfakery.net/">http://www.911tvfak<wbr>ery.net/</a><br />>><br />>><br />>> Tuesday, September 05, 2006<br />>> Total Information Radio: Nico Haupt on 9/11 TV fakery<br />>> Total Information Radio: Nico Haupt on 9/11 TV fakery<br />>> Monday, September 04, 2006<br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> <a href="http://www.total411.info/">http://www.total411<wbr>.info/</a><br />>><br />>> Tonight's edition of Total Information Radio features guest Nico Haupt on<br />>> 9/11 TV fakery. Haupt reports on the political progress of the meme and<br />>> dissects the 9/11 video footage. Haupt concludes by saying that if the<br />>> 9/11 TV fakery matrix is not cracked, humanity will become irrevocably<br />>> enthralled to a false Virtual-Reality/<wbr>Augmented-<wbr>Reality slavery grid.<br />>><br />>> Temporary Archive Link<br />>> Mirrors here:<br />>> <a href="http://www.total411.info/2006/060904TOTALRADIO.mp3">http://www.total411<wbr>.info/2006/<wbr>060904TOTALRADIO<wbr>.mp3</a><br />>> <a href="http://www.revereradio.net/411/2006/August/411radio9-4-06.mp3">http://www.reverera<wbr>dio.net/411/<wbr>2006/August/<wbr>411radio9-<wbr>4-06.mp3</a><br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> Friday, September 01, 2006<br />>> NY Villager mentions Haupt and TV Fakery<br />>> NY Villager mentions Haupt and TV Fakery<br />>> September 1, 2006<br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> <a href="http://www.thevillager.com/villager_174/5yearslater.html">http://www.thevilla<wbr>ger.com/villager<wbr>_174/5yearslater<wbr>.html</a><br />>> Volume 76, Number 15 August 30 -September 5, 2006<br />>><br />>> 5 years later, 9/11 skeptics feel they're close to truth<br />>> By David Spett<br />>><br />>> "...One 9/11 Truth member, Nico Haupt, believes the conspiracy behind<br />>> 9/11 extends beyond the government. At the Aug. 6 St. Mark's meeting,<br />>> Haupt criticized the mainstream 9/11 Truth movement, saying it has<br />>> "oppressed" his questions and research.<br />>><br />>> "I created a science group in 2002, which were working for four years,<br />>> hard, 24/7, opposed by leaders close to the 9/11 Truth movement," Haupt<br />>> told the audience, adding that his science group consists of nine<br />>> researchers and 600 members.<br />>><br />>> The group's findings were surprising.<br />>><br />>> "I believe that Cleveland is the final smoking gun for the passengers<br />>> [of United 93]. I believe the conspiracy theory that the F.B.I. and the<br />>> NASA together killed these passengers, either there or they got already<br />>> killed on board," Haupt said, waving several crumpled sheets of paper as<br />>> evidence. "I don't need to prove anymore what happens to passengers. I<br />>> don't need to prove anymore what happens to planes. All I can bring is<br />>> fact."<br />>><br />>> Missiles, not planes, hit the Twin Towers, Haupt added, and all the<br />>> footage on television and in newspapers has been edited.<br />>><br />>> After Haupt's speech, one man, who declined to give his name, said Haupt<br />>> represented "the fringe of our movement." It's "irresponsible" to say<br />>> missiles hit the W.T.C., the man said, but "parts of that argument have<br />>> merit."<br />>><br />>> "Still, we should lead with our strongest arguments," the man added.<br />>><br />>> Morales, echoing that statement, said he didn't believe Haupt yet but<br />>> would listen to a full presentation of Haupt's research and keep an open<br />>> mind.<br />>> In a telephone interview, Morales defended Haupt's opinion: "What he<br />>> thinks is his opinion, but he also makes it clear that he separates<br />>> opinion from conclusion. He's not prepared to make a scientific<br />>> conclusion or at least a quasiscientific conclusion. His strong point,<br />>> which I tend more to agree with, is that the footage, the various<br />>> mainstream media footage, seems to have been doctored..."<br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> Wednesday, August 30, 2006<br />>> Top 30 Evidence for 9/11 TV Fakery (08/30)<br />>> Top 30 Evidence for 9/11 TV Fakery<br />>> <a href="http://www.911blogger.com/node/2377">http://www.911blogg<wbr>er.com/node/<wbr>2377</a><br />>><br />>><br />>><br />>> Another 9/11 Scholar speaks out pro "no plane theory"<br />>> Judy Cunningham, st911.org<br />>> Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:06 pm<br />>> <a href="http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=668">http://www.blogline<wbr>s.com/blog/<wbr>ewing2001?<wbr>id=668</a><br />>><br />>> "...I believe Nico's theory of no planes. There was obviously no plane<br />>> that hit the Pentagon. I believe that the videos of the plane hitting the<br />>> WTC were digitally mastered cartoons. It is obvious, if you look at the<br />>> films, closely. In some, it appears that the planes go into the building<br />>> like butter, and others are different from other videos of the same<br />>> scene!!!! It took me years to realized that, but now I believe it!!! Even<br />>> if there wern't so much evidence, we cannot dismiss any theories of<br />>> corruption in government, when so much harm has been done to the<br />>> Constitution, the economy, homeless people, and the whole world is<br />>> threatened with death, starvation, slavery, etc. Judy..."<br />>><br />>><br /><br />No virus found in this outgoing message.<br />Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br />Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.0/439 - Release Date: 9/6/2006<br /><br />------------<wbr>---------<wbr>---------<wbr>---<br />Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2�/min or less.<br /><br /><br />------------<wbr>---------<wbr>---------<wbr>---<br />Do you Yahoo!?<br />Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! 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The underlying objective of this war was the militarization of Lebanon, including the stationing of foreign troops, as a precondition for carrying out the next phase of a broader military agenda.<br />Formally under a UN mandate, the foreign troops to be stationed on Lebanese soil on the immediate border with Syria, will be largely although not exclusively from NATO countries. This military force mandated by the UN Security Council is by no means neutral. It responds directly to US and Israeli interests.<br />Moreover, the timely withdrawal of Syrian troops, following the February 2005 assassination of former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri has contributed to opening up a "new space". The withdrawal of Syrian troops served Israeli interests. The timely pullout was of strategic significance: it was a major factor in the timing and planning of the July 2006 IDF attacks on Lebanon.<br />In the aftermath of the Israeli bombings and the "ceasefire", UN Security Council Resolution 1701, drafted by France and the US in close consultation with the Israeli government, has paved the way for the militarization of Lebanon, under a bogus UN mandate.<br />The Next Phase of the Middle East War<br />Confirmed by official statements and military documents, the US in close coordination with Britain (and in consultation with its NATO partners), is planning to launch a war directed against Iran and Syria. US Ambassador to the UN John Bolton has already initiated the draft of a UN Security Council resolution with a view to imposing sanctions on Tehran for its alleged (nonexistent) nuclear weapons program. Whether this resolution is adopted is not the main issue. The US may decide to proceed in defiance of the Security Council, following a veto by Russia and/or China. The vote of France and Britain, among the permanent members has already been secured.<br />US military sources have confirmed that an aerial attack, pursuant to a sanctions regime on Iran, with or without UN approval, would involve a large scale deployment comparable to the US "shock and awe" bombing raids on Iraq in March 2003:<br />American air strikes on Iran would vastly exceed the scope of the 1981 Israeli attack on the Osiraq nuclear center in Iraq, and would more resemble the opening days of the 2003 air campaign against Iraq. Using the full force of operational B-2 stealth bombers, staging from Diego Garcia or flying direct from the United States, possibly supplemented by F-117 stealth fighters staging from al Udeid in Qatar or some other location in theater, the two-dozen suspect nuclear sites would be targeted.<br />Military planners could tailor their target list to reflect the preferences of the Administration by having limited air strikes that would target only the most crucial facilities ... or the United States could opt for a far more comprehensive set of strikes against a comprehensive range of WMD related targets, as well as conventional and unconventional forces that might be used to counterattack against US forces in Iraq<br /><br />(See Globalsecurity.<wbr>org at <a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iran-strikes.htm">http://www.globalse<wbr>curity.org/<wbr>military/<wbr>ops/iran-<wbr>strikes.htm</a><br />The aerial bombing plans have been fully operational ("in an advanced state of readiness") since June 2005. The various components of the military operation are firmly under US Command, coordinated by the Pentagon and US Strategic Command Headquarters (USSTRATCOM) at the Offutt Air Force base in Nebraska.<br />In November 2004, US Strategic Command conducted a major exercise of a "global strike plan" entitled "Global Lightening". The latter involved a simulated attack using both conventional and nuclear weapons against a "fictitious enemy" [Iran]. Following the "Global Lightening" exercise, US Strategic Command declared "an advanced state of readiness".<br />The operational implementation of the Global Strike is called CONCEPT PLAN (CONPLAN) 8022. The latter is described as "an actual plan that the Navy and the Air Force translate into strike package for their submarines and bombers,'<br />The command structure of the operation is centralized and ultimately The Pentagon will decide on the sequence; " if and when" to launch military operations against Iran and Syria. Israeli military actions and those of other coalition partners including Turkey, would be carried out in close coordination with the Pentagon.<br />Ground War<br />While the threat of punitive aerial bombardments of Iran's nuclear facilities have been announced repeatedly by the Bush administration, recent developments suggest that an all out ground war is also under preparation.<br />CONPLAN constitutes only one component of the Middle East military agenda. CONPLAN 8022 does not contemplate a ground war. It posits "no boots on the ground", which was the initial assumption envisaged in relation to the proposed aerial attacks on Iran.<br />US and Israeli military planners are fully aware that the aerial "punitive bombings" will almost inevitably lead coalition forces into a ground war scenario in which they will have to confront Iranian and Syrian forces in the battlefield.<br />Tehran has confirmed that it will retaliate if attacked, in the form of ballistic missile strikes directed against Israel as well as against US military facilities in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf, which would immediately lead us into a scenario of military escalation and all out war.<br />Iranian troops could cross the Iran-Iraq border and confront coalition forces inside Iraq. Israeli troops and/or Special Forces could enter into Syria.<br />The foreign troops stationed in Lebanon under UN mandate would respond to the diktats of the US led coalition and the prior commitments reached with Washington and Tel Aviv in the context of the various military alliances (NATO-Israel, Turkey-Israel, GUUAM, etc).<br />War Games<br />These military preparations have also been marked, quite recently, by the conduct of war games.<br />In late August, Iran was involved in the conduct of war games in major regions of the country, including border areas with Turkey, Iraq, Azerbaijan, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Iran's Defense Minister General Mostafa Mohammad Najjar has confirmed the deployment of enhanced military capabilities including weapons systems and troops on the Iranian border: "[Iranian] forces are supervising all movements by trans-regional troops and their agents around the Iranian borders" (FARS news, 2 September 2006)<br />Iran War Games August 2006.<br /><br />Barely acknowledged by the Western media, military exercises organized by Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan under the Collective Security Treaty Organization, (CSTO) were also launched in late August. These war games, officially tagged as part of a counter terrorism program, were conducted in response to US-Israeli military threats in the region including the planned attacks against Iran. (See Michel Chossudovsky, August 2006). In turn, China an Kazakhstan held concurrent war games under the auspices of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).<br />Azerbaijan and neighboring Georgia have close military ties to Washington. Both countries are part of GUUAM, a military alliance with the US and NATO.<br /><br />Turkey is a close ally of Israel. Since 2005, Israel has deployed Special Forces in the mountainous areas of Turkey bordering Iran and Syria with the collaboration of the Ankara government: Pakistan is also a close ally of the US and Britain. Georgia also has a military cooperation agreement with Israel.<br /><br />Meanwhile, the USS Enterprise, America's largest aircraft carrier is en route to the Persian Gulf.<br />US Troop Build-up<br />US troops in Iraq have been increased to 140,000 as confirmed by recent Pentagon statements (Reuters, 2 September 2006) These plans have been coupled with a the compulsory recall of "inactive servicemen" as well as the expansion of mercenary forces. (Mahdi Darius Namzaroaya, August 2006)<br />The Pentagon justifies the troop build-up as part of a "routine" process of replacement and rotation, required in its ongoing war against "terrorists" in Iraq. The speeding up of military recruitment is also occurring in the core countries of the Anglo-American coalition including Great Britain. Australia and Canada (see also Recruiting Canada). Canada and Australia are aligned with the US. Australian Prime Minister John Howard as well as Canada's Steven Harper have confirmed their commitment to the US-Israeli war and have promised an expansion of the armed forces in their respective countries.<br />Meanwhile British troops stationed in Iraq have been redeployed to the Iranian border in southern Iraq. This redeployment has been casually presented by Britain's Ambassador to Iraq as part of a "crack down on smuggling and the entrance of weapons into Iraq from Iran".<br />While British officials are maintaining no desire or preparations for a conflict with Iran, more British troops are being mobilized and deployed to Iraq at the same time. The Light Infantry of the 2nd Battalion, another unit with rapid deployment capabilities, is deploying to the southern Iraqi border with Iran. The 2nd Battalion is being sent to Iraq under the pretext of working in the Rear Operations Battle Group which will provide escorts for military convoys and security for British forces and bases in Basra. (See Mahdi Darius Namzaroaya, August 2006)<br />The Role of Israel<br />In the wake of the war on Lebanon. Israel's military plans and pronouncements are increasingly explicit. Tel Aviv has announced plans to wage a pre-emptive "full-scale war" against Iran and Syria, implying the deployment of both air and ground force. These war plans are now said to at the top of the defense agenda:<br />"Israel is preparing for a possible war with both Iran and Syria, according to Israeli political and military sources."<br />(...)<br />�The challenge from Iran and Syria is now top of the Israeli defense agenda, higher than the Palestinian one,� said an Israeli defense source. Shortly before the war in Lebanon Major-General Eliezer Shkedi, the commander of the air force, was placed in charge of the �Iranian front�, a new position in the Israeli Defense Forces. His job will be to command any future strikes on Iran and Syria."<br />(...)<br />In the past we prepared for a possible military strike against Iran�s nuclear facilities,� said one insider, �but Iran�s growing confidence after the war in Lebanon means we have to prepare for a full-scale war, in which Syria will be an important player.�<br />(...)<br />As a result of the change in the defense priorities, the budget for the Israeli forces in the West Bank and Gaza is to be reduced." (Sunday Times, 3 September 2006)<br />Media Disinformation<br />The Western media is beating the drums of war.<br />The Sunday Times views Israel's war plans as legitimate acts of self defense, to prevent Tehran from launching an all out nuclear attack on Israel: "Iran and Syria have ballistic missiles that can cover most of Israel, including Tel Aviv. An emergency budget has now been assigned to building modern shelters."<br />The fact that Iran does not possess nuclear weapons capabilities as confirmed by the IAEA report does not seem to be an issue for debate.<br />Media disinformation has contributed to creating an atmosphere of fear and intimidation. The announcement on August 10 by the British Home Office of a foiled large scale terror attack to simultaneously blow up as many as ten airplanes, conveys the impression that it is the Western World rather than the Middle East which is under attack.<br /><br />Realities are twisted upside down. The disinformation campaign has gone into full gear. The British and US media are increasingly pointing towards "preemptive war" as an act of "self defense" against Al Qaeda and the State sponsors of terrorism, who are allegedly preparing a Second 911.<br />The underlying objective, through fear and intimidation, is ultimately to build public acceptance for the next stage of the Middle East "war on terrorism" which is directed against Syria and Iran.<br />The antiwar movement has also been weakened.<br />While China and Russia will oppose the US led war at the diplomatic level as well as at the UN Security Council, Washington has secured the support of France and Germany. While Russia and China have military cooperation agreements with Iran, they would most probably not would intervene militarily in favor of Iran.<br />NATO is broadly supportive of the US led military agenda. In February 2005, NATO signed a military cooperation agreement with Israel.<br />Nuclear Weapons against Iran<br />The use of tactical nuclear weapons by the US and Israel against Iran, is contemplated, ironically in retaliation for Iran's nonexistent nuclear weapons program.<br />The Bush administration'<wbr>s new nuclear doctrine contains specific "guidelines" which allow for "preemptive" nuclear strikes against "rogue enemies" which "possess" or are "developing" weapons of mass destruction (WMD). (2001 Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) and Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations (DJNO)).<br />CONPLAN 8022, referred to above, is 'the overall umbrella plan for sort of the pre-planned strategic scenarios involving nuclear weapons.'<br />'It's specifically focused on these new types of threats -- Iran, North Korea -- proliferation and potentially terrorists too,' he said. 'There's nothing that says that they can't use CONPLAN 8022 in limited scenarios against Russian and Chinese targets.'(According to Hans Kristensen, of the Nuclear Information Project, quoted in Japanese economic News Wire, op cit)<br />The mission of JFCCSGS is to implement CONPLAN 8022, in other words to trigger a nuclear war with Iran.<br />The Commander in Chief, namely George W. Bush would instruct the Secretary of Defense, who would then instruct the Joint Chiefs of staff to activate CONPLAN 8022.<br />The use of nuclear weapons against Iran would be coordinated with Israel, which possesses a sophisticated nuclear arsenal.<br />The use of nuclear weapons by Israel or the US cannot be excluded, particularly in view of the fact that tactical nuclear weapons have now been reclassified as a variant of the conventional bunker buster bombs and are authorized for use in conventional war theaters. ("they are harmless to civilians because the explosion is underground"<wbr>).<br />In this regard, Israel and the US rather than Iran constitute a nuclear threat.<br />The World is at a Critical Crossroads<br /><br />The Bush Administration has embarked upon a military adventure which threatens the future of humanity. This is not an overstatement. If aerial bombardments were to be launched against Iran, they would trigger a ground war and the escalation of the conflict to a much broader region. Even in the case of aerial and missile using conventional warheads, the bombings would unleash a nuclear nightmare resulting from the spread of nuclear radiation following the destruction of Iran's nuclear energy facilities.<br />Throughout history, the structure of military alliances has played a crucial role in triggering major military conflicts. In contrast to the situation prevailing prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, America's ongoing military adventure is now firmly supported by the Franco-German alliance. Moreover, Israel is slated to play a direct role in this military operation.<br />NATO is firmly aligned with the Anglo-American-<wbr>Israeli military axis, which also includes Australia and Canada. In 2005, NATO signed a military cooperation agreement with Israel, and Israel has a longstanding bilateral military agreement with Turkey.<br />Iran has observer status in The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) and is slated to become a full member of SCO. China and Russia have far-reaching military cooperation agreements with<br />China and Russia are firmly opposed to a US-led military operation in the diplomatic arena. While the US sponsored military plan threatens Russian and Chinese interests in Central Asia and the Caspian sea basin, it is unlikely that they would intervene militarily on the side of Iran or Syria.<br />The planned attack on Iran must be understood in relation to the existing active war theaters in the Middle East, namely Afghanistan, Iraq and Lebanon-Palestine.<br />The conflict could easily spread from the Middle East to the Caspian sea basin. It could also involve the participation of Azerbaijan and Georgia, where US troops are stationed.<br />Military action against Iran and Syria would directly involve Israel's participation, which in turn would trigger a broader war throughout the Middle East, not to mention the further implosion in the Palestinian occupied territories. Turkey is closely associated with the proposed aerial attacks.<br />If the US-UK-Israeli war plans were to proceed, the broader Middle East- Central Asian region would flare up, from the Eastern Mediterranean to the Afghan-Chinese border. At present, there are three distinct war theaters: Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine-Lebanon. An attack directed against Iran would serve to integrate these war theaters transforming the broader Middle East Central Asian region into an integrated war zone. (see map above)<br />In turn the US sponsored aerial bombardments directed against Iran could contribute to triggering a ground war characterized by Iranian attacks directed against coalition troops in Iraq. In turn, Israeli forces would enter into Syria.<br />An attack on Iran would have a direct impact on the resistance movement inside Iraq. It would also put pressure on America's overstretched military capabilities and resources in both the Iraqi and Afghan war theaters.<br />In other words, the shaky geopolitics of the Central Asia- Middle East region, the three existing war theaters in which America is currently, involved, the direct participation of Israel and Turkey, the structure of US sponsored military alliances, etc. raises the specter of a broader conflict.<br />The war against Iran is part of a longer term US military agenda which seeks to militarize the entire Caspian sea basin, eventually leading to the destabilization and conquest of the Russian Federation.<br />The Pentagon's Second 911<br />The economic and political dislocations resulting from this military agenda are far-reaching.<br />If the attacks directed against Iran and Syria were to proceed, martial law and/or a state of emergency could be declared in the US and possibly Britain on the pretext that the homeland is under attack by Iran sponsored terrorists. The purpose of these measures would essentially be to curb the antiwar movement and provide legitimacy to an illegal war.<br />The Pentagon has intimated in this regard, in an official statement, that "another [9/11] attack could create both a justification and an opportunity to retaliate against some known targets [Iran and Syria]". In a timely statement, barely a few days following the onslaught of the bombing of Lebanon, Vice President Cheney reiterated his warning: "The enemy that struck on 9/11 is fractured and weakened, yet still lethal, still determined to hit us again" (Waterloo Courier, Iowa, 19 July 2006, italics added).<br />Reversing the Tide of War<br />The issues raised in this article do not necessarily imply that the war will take place. What the analysis of official statments and military documents onfirms is that:<br /><br />a) the war is part of a political agenda;<br /><br />b) military plans to launch an attack on Iran and Syria are "in an advanced stage of readiness".<br /><br />The issue is not whether the war will inevitably take place but what are the instruments at our disposal which will enable us to shunt and ultimately disarm this global military agenda.<br /><br />War criminals occupy positions of authority. The citizenry is galvanized into supporting the rulers, who are "committed to their safety and well-being". Through media disinformation, war is given a humanitarian mandate.<br />The legitimacy of the war must be addressed. Antiwar sentiment alone does not disarm a military agenda. High ranking officials of the Bush administration, members of the military and the US Congress have been granted the authority to uphold an illegal war.<br /><br />The corporate backers and sponsors of war and war crimes must also be targeted including the oil companies, the defense contractors, the financial institutions and the corporate media, which has become an integral part of the war propaganda machine.<br />There is a sense of urgency. In the weeks and months ahead, the antiwar movement must act, consistently, and address a number of key issues:<br />1. The role of media disinformation in sustaining the military agenda is crucial.<br /><br />We will not succeed in our endeavours unless the propaganda apparatus is weakened and eventually dismantled. It is essential to inform our fellow citizens on the causes and consequences of the US-led war, not to mention the extensive war crimes and atrocities which are routinely obfuscated by the media. This is no easy task. It requires an effective counter-propaganda program which refutes mainstream media assertions.<br /><br />It is essential that the relevant information and analysis reaches the broader public. The Western media is controlled by a handful of powerful business syndicates. The media conglomerates which control network TV and the printed press must be challenged through cohesive actions which reveal the lies and falsehoods.<br /><br />2. There is opposition within the political establishment in the US as well as within the ranks of the Armed Forces.<br /><br />While this opposition does not necessarily question to overall direction of US foreign policy, it is firmly opposed to military adventurism, including the use of nuclear weapons. These voices within the institutions of the State, the Military and the business establishment are important because they can be usefully channeled to discredit and ultimately dismantle the "war on terrorism" consensus. The broadest possible alliance of political and social forces is, therefore, required to prevent a military adventure which in a very real sense threatens the future of humanity.<br />3. The structure of military alliances must be addressed. A timely shift in military alliances could potentially reverse the course of history.<br /><br />Whereas France and Germany are broadly supportive of the US led war, there are strong voices in both countries as well as within the European Union, which firmly oppose the US led military agenda, both at the grassroots level as well within the political system itself.<br /><br />It is essential that the commitments made by European heads of government and heads of State to Washington be cancelled or nullified, through pressure exerted at the appropriate political levels. This applies, in particular, to the unbending support of the Bush adminstration, expressed by President Jacques Chirac and Chancellor Angela Merkel.<br /><br />The weakening of the system of alliances which commits Western Europe to supporting the Anglo-American military axis, could indeed contribute to reversing the tide. Washington would hesitate to wage a war on Iran without the support of France and Germany.<br />4. The holding of large antiwar rallies is important and essential. But in will not in itself reverse the tide of war unless it is accompanied by the development of a cohesive antiwar network.<br /><br />What is required is a grass roots antiwar network, a mass movement at national and international levels, which challenges the legitimacy of the main military and political actors, as well as their corporate sponsors, and which would ultimately be instrumental in unseating those who rule in our name. The construction of this type of network will take time to develop. Initially, it should focus on developing an antiwar stance within existing citizens' organizations (e.g. trade unions, community organizations, professional regroupings, student federations, municipal councils, etc.).<br />5. 9/11 plays a crucial and central role in the propaganda campaign.<br /><br />The threat of an Al Qaeda "Attack on America" is being used profusely by the Bush administration and its indefectible British ally to galvanize public opinion in support of a global military agenda. Revealing the lies behind 911 would serve to undermine the legitimacy of the "war on terrorism". Without 911, the war criminals in high office do not have a leg to stand on. The entire national security construct collapses like a deck of cards. Known and documented, the "Islamic terror network" is a creation of the US intelligence apparatus. Several of the terror alerts were based on fake intelligence as revealed in the recent foiled "liquid bomb attack". There is evidence that the several of the terrorist "mass casualty events" which have resulted in civilian casualties were triggered by the military and/or intelligence services. (e.g Bali 2002).<br /><br />The "war on terrorism" is bogus. The 911 narrative as conveyed by the 911 Commission report is fabricated. The Bush administration is involved in acts of cover-up and complicity at the highest levels of government.<br />Michel Chossudovsky is the author of the international best seller "The Globalization of Poverty " published in eleven languages. He is Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and Director of the Center for Research on Globalization. His most recent book is America�s "War on Terrorism", Global Research, 2005.<br />To order Chossudovsky'<wbr>s book America's "War on Terrorism", click here<br /><br />Note: Readers are welcome to cross-post this article with a view to spreading the word and warning people of the dangers of a broader Middle East war. 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World Trade Centre building #7 was a 47 storey steel<br />and concrete construction skyscraper. It was not hit by a plane.<br />From my research it seems the fires it sustained were not intense.<br />Also it seems to me that it was not hit by massive amounts of debris<br />from the nearby collapsing twin towers, and the probability that jet<br />fuel got into it seems very low.<br /><br />And yet on the afternoon of September 11 2001 this building collapsed,<br />vertically, neatly into it's own footprint in under 7 seconds.<br /><br />In 100 years of steel frame building construction no building either before<br />or after September 11 2001 has ever collapsed solely due to fire, although<br />some have burned much hotter and for far longer.<br /><br />It seems to me that steel frame buildings are engineered to stand, not to<br />collapse neatly into their own footprint at the speed of gravity when a<br />few fires break out.<br /><br />It also seems to me that the collapse of WTC #7, if it fell solely due to fires<br />as NIST insists it did, contravenes two basic laws of physics - the Law<br />of Conservation of Momentum, and the Law of Conservation of Energy.<br /><a href="http://www.physics911.net/closerlook.htm">http://www.physics9<wbr>11.net/closerloo<wbr>k.htm</a><br /><br />However, there is a rational, scientific explanation that would account for<br />the observed collapse of WTC building #7 - that is controlled demolition,<br />where explosives are precisely placed to cause a sequenced failure of the<br />load-bearing steel support beams, causing the building to collapse vertically<br />at almost freefall speed leaving behind a tidy pile of rubble.<br /><a href="http://www.wtc7.net/verticalcollapse.html">http://www.wtc7.<wbr>net/verticalcoll<wbr>apse.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html">http://www.wtc7.<wbr>net/videos.<wbr>html</a><br /><a href="http://www.wtc7.net/demolition.html">http://www.wtc7.<wbr>net/demolition.<wbr>html</a><br /><a href="http://www.wtc7.net/rubblepile.html">http://www.wtc7.<wbr>net/rubblepile.<wbr>html</a><br /><br />And to me and many others, this is exactly how the collapse<br />of WTC building 7 appears.<br /><a href="http://www.st911.org/">http://www.st911.<wbr>org/</a><br /><br />And yet I post this rational question to Yahoo! Answers, and I'm amazed by<br />the rubbish responses I get.<br /><br />I'm "paranoid delusional", suffering from a "disease" and need counselling<br />for even asking such a question, says one answerer.<br /><br />"Captains' Log: Conspiracy theory 8,000,998 - file between the Aliens Did It<br />and the Zulus' Did It." - I'll leave you to judge this answer for yourself.<br /><br />Another answerer says<br />"Oh yes mighty nutcase and those that weren't there to see it and instead<br />rely on TV cameras. "<br />Honestly! How many people on earth were in NYC on September 11 2001<br />and were eye witnesses to the collapse of WTC 7? Of course we rely<br />on video footage.<br /><br />Maybe anyone who asks scientific questions is just a 'mighty nutcase'<br />by the standards of this answerer? Maybe anyone who studies history<br />is just a 'mighty nutcase'? After all, by this assertion, unless we were<br />eyewitnesses to an event, how can we know anything about it?<br /><br />This answerer also claims:<br />"If you look right across the street from WTC 1 you will see a building not unlike WTC 7 that was not hit, called the Banker's Trust building. It has been vacant since 9/11 because it is in danger of collapse."<br /><br />Can anyone verify this claim? I find it highly dubious - why would a building<br />be left vacant for almost 5 years if it is in danger of collapse? Wouldn't<br />it be inspected and either repaired or pulled? And even if it did collapse,<br />would it collapse neatly, vertically, into its own footprint in under 7 seconds,<br />leaving a tidy rubble pile, without the help of carefully positioned explosives?<br />I don't think so!<br /><br />"GRAVITY influenced by structural degradation. WHOA...Big words huh?"<br />says another. Yes, I fully agree - but structural degradation caused by what?<br />Fire? Debris? Or expertly placed explosives as cutter charges on the<br />load-bearing columns to cause a carefully sequenced structural failure?<br /><br />"The building sustained severe structural damage when the twin towers<br />collapsed right near it."<br />Okay, fine. Where's the proof? Other buildings closer by sustained<br />damage and severe fires, but they didn't collapse. The idea that the debris<br />from the twins caused structural damage such that #7 suffered a vertical<br />collapse into a tidy pile of rubble in under 7 seconds seems highly<br />improbable to me.<br /><br />Please, are there any scientists on this list who can post a scientific answer<br />based on physics to my question?<br /><a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20060903110709AA8NYLw">http://answers.<wbr>yahoo.com/<wbr>question/<wbr>?qid=20060903110<wbr>709AA8NYLw</a><br /><br />Thankyou. Any QUALITY answers are much appreciated,<br /><br />James.<br />- -<br /><br />911wasaninsidejob posted the following question to Yahoo! Answers:<br /><br />How did WTC 7 collapse if it wasn't a controlled demolition?<br /><br />Was World Trade Centre 7 a controlled demolition?<br /><br />WTC 1 and 2 were each hit by an aeroplane, and they collapsed.<br /><br />However, WTC 7 was NOT hit by a plane and did NOT suffer major fires, and yet, incredibly, it collapsed neatly into its own footprint in 6.5 seconds. WTC 5 and 6, smaller buildings closer to the twin towers were gutted by fire, but they did NOT collapse.<br /><br />In 100 years of steel frame building construction, NO STEEL FRAME BUILDING HAS EVER COLLAPSED SOLELY DUE TO FIRE, even though many have burned MUCH HOTTER and FOR MUCH LONGER.<br /><br />... Except, we are told, WTC 7.<br /><br />Hence my question:<br /><br />If WTC 7 wasn't a controlled demolition, then how did it collapse?<br /><br />And if it was a controlled demolition, which the video footage looks exactly like, and Larry Silverstein the building owner implies on PBS television, then who expertly placed the explosives to implode this building?<br />Additional Details<br /><br />4 days ago<br />For anyone unfamiliar with WTC 7, a massive 47 storey steel-framed skyscraper which was NOT hit by a plane but also collapsed on September 11 2001, you could try the following links:<br /><br /><a href="http://wtc7.net/">http://wtc7.<wbr>net/</a><br /><a href="http://911physics.co.nr/">http://911physics.<wbr>co.nr/</a><br />(Click on WTC 7 link)<br /><a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html">http://www.prisonpl<wbr>anet.com/<wbr>011904wtc7.<wbr>html</a><br /><a href="http://www.physics911.net/closerlook.htm">http://www.physics9<wbr>11.net/closerloo<wbr>k.htm</a><br /><br />btw: the Silverstein group made nearly a $500 million profit just on this one building.<br />4 days ago - 4 day(s) left to answer. - 15 answers<br />You can't answer your own question.<br /><br />Please answer my question here:<br /><a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20060903110709AA8NYLw">http://answers.<wbr>yahoo.com/<wbr>question/<wbr>?qid=20060903110<wbr>709AA8NYLw</a><br /><br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:james_patton@yahoo.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzNWhtNW04BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4NwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27787">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27492;_ylc=X3oDMTM4Mmh0MnVoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4NwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3NDky">Messages in this topic </a>(3) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>5. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27788;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdWh0cmZhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4OARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="5">A Day in the Life: 9/7/6 </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "President, USA Exile Govt." <a href="mailto:prez@usa-exile.org?Subject=Re:">mailto:prez@usa-exile.org?Subject=Re:</a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 10:38 am (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content">GOVERNMENT OF THE USA IN EXILE<br />Free Americans Reaching<br />Out to Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free<br />��������<br />Via <<a href="mailto:prez@usa-exile.org">prez@usa-exile.<wbr>org</a>><br /><br />September 7, 2006<br /><br />NOTE: What's happening here--though not generally recognized yet--is<br />we're losing our ability to grow food outdoors. To demonstrate this we<br />need merely to extrapolate from annual quantifications of food lost to<br />Extreme Weather Events during the past two decades. Thus it's<br />unfortunate that there's so little research on the eco-friendliest<br />(especially water-austere) ways of growing food indoors. -- kl, pp<br /><br />From: "paul illich" <<a href="mailto:paul_illich@hotmail.com">paul_illich@<wbr>hotmail.com</a>><br />Date: September 6, 2006 4:37:19 PM EST<br />To: <a href="mailto:bluegreenearth@yahoogroups.com">bluegreenearth@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br />Subject: [bluegreenearth] fwd: **The hungry planet - worst crisis for<br />30 years **<br /><br /><a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article1325467.ece">http://news.<wbr>independent.<wbr>co.uk/environmen<wbr>t/article1325467<wbr>.ece</a><br /><br />The Hungry<br />Planet:<br />As Stocks Run Out and Harvests Fail, the World Faces Its Worst<br />Crisis for 30 Years<br /><br />By Geoffrey Lean<br />Published: 03 September 2006<br /><br />Food supplies are shrinking alarmingly around the globe, plunging<br />the world into its greatest crisis for more than 30 years. New<br />figures show that this year's harvest will fail to produce enough to<br />feed everyone on Earth, for the sixth time in the past seven years.<br />Humanity has so far managed by eating its way through stockpiles<br />built up in better times - but these have now fallen below the<br />danger level.<br /><br />Food prices have already started to rise as a result, and threaten<br />to soar out of reach of many of the 4.2 billion people who live in<br />the world's most vulnerable countries. And the new "green" drive to<br />get cars to run on biofuels threatens to make food even scarcer and<br />more expensive.<br /><br />The UN's Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) and the US<br />Department of Agriculture (USDA), which produce the world's two main<br />forecasts of the global crop production, both estimate that this<br />year's grain harvest will fall for the second successive year.<br /><br />The FAO is still compiling its latest crop forecast - due to be<br />published next month - but told The Independent on Sunday late last<br />week that it looked like barely exceeding 2 billion tons, down from<br />2.38 billion last year, and 2.68 billion in 2004, although the<br />world's appetite has continued to grow as its population rises.<br /><br />The USDA estimates it will be even lower - 1.984 billion tons. This<br />would mean that it would fall 58 million tons short of what the<br />world's people are expected to consume this year: 10 years ago, by<br />contrast, farmers grew 64 million tons more than was consumed. The<br />world's food stocks have shrunk from enough to feed the world for<br />116 days in 1999 to a predicted 57 days at the end of this season,<br />well below the official safety level. Prices have already risen by<br />up to 20 per cent this year.<br /><br />The gathering crisis has been largely unnoticed because, for once,<br />the harvests have failed in rich countries such as the United States<br />and Australia, which normally export food, rather than in the<br />world's hungriest ones. So it has not immediately resulted in mass<br />starvation in Africa or Asia.<br /><br />Instead, it will have a delayed effect as poor people become<br />increasingly unable to afford expensive food and find that there is<br />not enough in store to help them when their own crops fail.<br /><br />The lack of world attention contrasts with the last great food<br />crisis, in the mid-1970s. Then Henry Kissinger - at the height of<br />his powers as Richard Nixon's Secretary of State - called a World<br />Food Conference, in which governments solemnly resolved that never<br />again would they allow humanity to run short of sustenance. The<br />conference, in Rome, resolved to eradicate hunger by the mid-1980s.<br />Kissinger himself pledged that "within a decade, no child should go<br />hungry to bed".<br /><br />Yet, a generation later, more than 800 million people worldwide are<br />still constantly hungry. Every day, some 16,000 young children die,<br />at least partly because they do not get enough food. And the new<br />food crisis threatens to be even worse than the last one. In the<br />seven years running up to the Rome conference grain production fell<br />below consumption only three times, compared to six now.<br /><br />It was at the conference that I first met Lester Brown, who has,<br />ever since, been the principal prophet of the coming scarcity,<br />repeatedly warning of the new crisis which is now upon us.<br /><br />Brown - who now heads the Earth Policy Institute, a respected<br />Washington-based think tank - gleaned his first insights into the<br />world's predicament as a tomato tycoon when he was a teenager. Back<br />in the early 1950s, when he was just 14, he and his brother bought<br />an old tractor for $200 (�105), rented a couple of fields near their<br />home in southern New Jersey and started growing the vegetables after<br />school.<br /><br />Soon the brothers were among the top 1 per cent of tomato growers in<br />the United States. They easily qualified for the Ten-Ton Tomato<br />Club - "the Phi Beta Kappa of tomato growers" - which is open to<br />those who harvested that amount per acre.<br /><br />Then Campbell's Soups, trying to lower costs, threw money into<br />research to increase yields. Within a few years, the club had to<br />change its name to the Twenty-Ton Tomato Club. But the pace of<br />improvement could not be sustained. Despite decades of more research<br />growth of yields slowed dramatically; by the mid- 1990s the best<br />growers were getting about 30 tons of tomatoes per acre.<br /><br />That, says Brown, is what has been happening to the world's harvests<br />as a whole. Between 1950 and 1990 grain yields more than doubled,<br />but they have grown much more slowly since. Production rose from<br />around 630 million tons to 1.78 billion tons, but has only edged up<br />in the past 15 years, to around 2 billion tons.<br /><br />"The near-tripling of the harvest by the world's farmers was a<br />remarkable performance,<wbr>" says Brown. "In a single generation they<br />increased grain production by twice as much as had been achieved<br />during the preceding 11,000 years, since agriculture began. But now<br />the world has suffered a dramatic loss of momentum."<br /><br />Apart from increasing yields, there has always been one other way of<br />boosting production - putting more land under the plough. But this,<br />too, has been running into the buffers. As population grows and<br />farmland is used for building roads and cities - and becomes<br />exhausted by overuse - the amount available for each person on Earth<br />has fallen by more than half.<br /><br />There are more than five people on Earth today for every two living<br />in the middle of the last century. Yet enough is produced worldwide<br />to feed everyone well, if it is evenly distributed.<br /><br />It is not just that people in rich countries eat too much, and those<br />in poor ones eat too little. Enormous quantities of the world's<br />increasingly scarce grain now goes to feed cows - and, indirectly,<br />cars.<br /><br />The cows are longstanding targets of Brown's, who founded the<br />prestigious Worldwatch Institute immediately after the 1974<br />conference, partly to draw attention to the precariousness of food<br />supplies. As people become better-off, they eat more meat, the<br />animals that are slaughtered often being fed on grain. It takes 14kg<br />of grain to produce 2kg of beef, and 8kg of grain for 2kg of pork.<br />More than a third of the world's harvest goes to fatten animals in<br />this way.<br /><br />Cars are a new concern, the worry arising from the present drive to<br />produce green fuels to fight global warming. A "corn rush" has<br />erupted in the United States, using the crop to produce the biofuel,<br />ethanol - strongly supported by subsidies from the Bush<br />administration to divert criticism of its failure to ratify the<br />Kyoto Protocol.<br /><br />Just a single fill of ethanol for a four-wheel drive SUV, says<br />Brown, uses enough grain to feed one person for an entire year. This<br />year the amount of US corn going to make the fuel will equal what it<br />sells abroad; traditionally its exports have helped feed 100 -<br />mostly poor - countries.<br /><br />From next year, the amount used to run American cars will exceed<br />exports, and soon it is likely to reduce what is available to help<br />feed poor people overseas. The number of ethanol plants built or<br />planned in the corn-belt state of Iowa will use virtually all the<br />state's crop.<br /><br />This will not only cut food supplies, but drive up the process of<br />grain, making hungry people compete with the owners of gas-guzzlers.<br />Already spending 70 per cent of their meagre incomes on food, they<br />simply cannot afford to do so.<br /><br />Brown expects the food crisis to get much worse as more and more<br />land becomes exhausted, soil erodes, water becomes scarcer, and<br />global warming cuts harvests.<br /><br />Making cars more fuel-efficient, and eating less meat would help but<br />the only long-term solution is to enable poor countries - and<br />especially their poorest people - to grow more food. And the best<br />way to do that, studies show, is to encourage small farmers to grow<br />crops in environmentally friendly ways. Research at Essex University<br />shows that this can double yields.<br /><br />But the world needs a new sense of urgency. "We are living very<br />close to the edge," says Brown. "History judges leaders by whether<br />they respond to great issues. For our generation, the issue may well<br />be food security."<br /><br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>======<br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>====<br /><br />Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:16:04 +0300 From: "Erooth Mohamed"<br /><<a href="mailto:ekunhan@gmail.com">ekunhan@gmail.<wbr>com</a>><br /><br />Iran Says<br />U.S., Israel Ordered September 11 Attacks<br /><br />Wed. 06 Sep 2006<br /><br />Iran Focus<br /><a href="http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=8512">http://www.iranfocu<wbr>s.com/modules/<wbr>news/article.<wbr>php?storyid=<wbr>8512</a><br /><br />Tehran, Iran, Sep. 06 ? The Supreme Commander of Iran's Islamic<br />Revolutionary Guards Corps accused the Bush Administration and the<br />Israeli security service Mossad of ordering the September 11, 2001<br />attacks in New York and Washington, DC.<br /><br />"The events of September 11 were ordered by U.S. [officials] and Mossad<br />so that they could carry out their strategy of pre-emption and<br />warmongering and unipolarisation in order to dominate the Middle East",<br />Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi told military commanders on Tuesday.<br />His comments were reported by the state-run news agency ISNA.<br /><br />General Safavi said that Iran was the leading force of the "Islamic<br />world". "The geographic heart of the Islamic world is in Mecca and<br />Medina. But, the political heart of the Islamic world is in the Islamic<br />Republic of Iran and the Supreme Leader [Ayatollah Ali Khamenei] is the<br />flag-bearer of the front of Islamic awakening and the fronts of the<br />awakening of third world nations", he said.<br /><br />He said that Washington had been defeated in its strategy of "attacking<br />Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon" and creating a new order in the Middle<br />East.<br /><br />"The U.S.'s neo-conservative strategy was to dominate the vast energy<br />resources of the Persian Gulf in order to be able to control Europe,<br />China, and India and drive the world to a unipolar state. Therefore, it<br />planned to change undesirable regimes such as those of Iraq, Sudan,<br />Syria, and Afghanistan"<wbr>.<br /><br />The IRGC general said that the Lebanese militia Hezbollah had defeated<br />Israel during their recent war. "After many years, the political and<br />military image and hollow might of the Zionist regime was broken and<br />the real power of Hezbollah fighters was proven. Thus, Hezbollah<br />defeated Israel".<br /><br />He described Washington and Tel Aviv as two "inter-continental threats"<br />against Tehran. "The U.S. must be livid at Iran because of its<br />disgraceful defeats in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon. Regarding<br />[Iran's] nuclear dossier, it might try to create circumstances so that<br />slowly but surely economic and political pressure is applied against<br />Iran by the [United Nations] Security Council".<br /><br />He accused Washington of plotting a "cultural" attack on Tehran by<br />setting up new radio and television stations broadcasting into Iran,<br />supporting dissident groups, and stepping up intelligence operations.<br />"Therefore, the armed forces must be completely prepared in order to<br />combat any forms of foreign and domestic threats", he said.<br /><br />He charged that Britain and the U.S. were stirring ethnic and religious<br />divisions in Iran, in particular in the provinces close to the<br />country's frontiers.<br /><br />The IRGC's primary task is to export the Islamic revolution to<br />Jerusalem via Baghdad.<br /><br />Hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is one of many officials who<br />stem from the IRGC.<br /><br />-- Peter Myers, 381 Goodwood Rd, Childers 4660, Australia ph +61 7<br />41262296 <a href="http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers">http://users.<wbr>cyberone.<wbr>com.au/myers</a> Mirror:<br /><a href="http://mailstar.net/index.html">http://mailstar.<wbr>net/index.<wbr>html</a> I use the old Mac OS; being<br />incompatible, it cannot run Windows viruses or transmit them to you. If<br />your emails to me bounce, write to me at <a href="mailto:peter.myers@mailstar.net">peter.myers@<wbr>mailstar.<wbr>net</a>. To<br />unsubscribe, reply with "unsubscribe" in the subject line; allow 1 day.<br /><br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>======<br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>====<br /><br />----------<br /><br />U.S. Losing Control Fast<br /><br />By Dahr Jamail and Ali Al-Fadhily<br />September 6, 2006<br />Inter Press Service<br /><br />RAMADI, Sep 5 (IPS) - The U.S. military has lost control over the<br />volatile al-Anbar province, Iraqi police and residents say.<br /><br />The area to the west of Baghdad includes Fallujah, Ramadi and other<br />towns that have seen the worst of military occupation, and the<br />strongest resistance.<br /><br />Despite massive military operations which destroyed most of Fallujah<br />and much of cities like Haditha and al-Qa'im in Ramadi, real control of<br />the city now seems to be in the hands of local resistance.<br /><br />In losing control of this province, the U.S. would have lost control<br />over much of Iraq.<br /><br />"We are talking about nearly a third of the area of Iraq," Ahmed<br />Salman, a historian from Fallujah told IPS. "Al-Anbar borders Jordan,<br />Syria and Saudi Arabia, and the resistance there will never stop as<br />long as there are American soldiers on the ground."<br /><br />Salman said the U.S. military is working against itself. "Their actions<br />ruin their goal because they use these huge, violent military<br />operations which kill so many civilians, and make it impossible to calm<br />down the people of al-Anbar."<br /><br />The resistance seems in control of the province now. "No government<br />official can do anything without contacting the resistance first,"<br />government official in Ramadi Abu Ghalib told IPS.<br /><br />"Even the governor used to take their approval for everything. When he<br />stopped doing so, they issued a death sentence against him, and now he<br />cannot move without American protection."<br /><br />Recent weeks have brought countless attacks on U.S. troops in Haditha,<br />Ramadi, Fallujah and on the Baghdad-Amman highway. Several armoured<br />vehicles have been destroyed, and dozens of U.S. soldiers killed in the<br />al-Anbar province, according to both Iraqi witnesses and the U.S.<br />Department of Defence.<br /><br />Long stretches of the 550km Baghdad-Amman highway which crosses<br />al-Anbar are now controlled by resistance groups. Other parts are<br />targeted by highway looters.<br /><br />"If we import any supplies for the U.S. Army or Iraqi government, the<br />fighters will take it from us and sell it in the local market," trader<br />Hayder al-Mussawi said. "And if we import for the local market, the<br />robbers will take it."<br /><br />Eyewitnesses in Ramadi say many of the attacks are taking place within<br />their city. They say that the U.S. military recently asked citizens in<br />al-Anbar to stop targeting them, and promised to withdraw to their<br />bases in Haditha and Habaniyah (near Fallujah) soon, leaving the cities<br />for Iraqi security forces to patrol.<br /><br />"I do not think that is possible," retired Iraqi police<br />Brigadier-General Kahtan al-Dulaimi from Ramadi told IPS. "I believe no<br />local unit could stand the severe resistance of al-Anbar, and it will<br />be the last province to be handed over to Iraqi security forces."<br /><br />According to the group Iraq Coalition Casualty Count, 964 coalition<br />soldiers have been killed in al-Anbar, more than in any other Iraqi<br />province.. Baghdad is second, with 665 coalition deaths.<br /><br />Residents of Ramadi told IPS that the U.S. military has knocked down<br />several buildings near the government centre in the city, the capital<br />of the province.<br /><br />In an apparent move to secure their offices, U.S. Army and Marine<br />engineers have started to level a half-kilometre stretch of low-rise<br />buildings opposite the centre. Abandoned buildings in this area have<br />been used repeatedly to launch attacks on the government complex.<br /><br />"They are trying to create a separation area between the offices of the<br />puppet government and the buildings the resistance are using to attack<br />them," a Ramadi resident said. "But now the Americans are making us all<br />angry because they are destroying our city."<br /><br />U.S. troops have acknowledged their own difficulties in doing this.<br />"We're used to taking down walls, doors and windows, but eight city<br />blocks is something new to us," Marine 1st Lt. Ben Klay, 24, said in<br />the U.S. Department of Defence newspaper Stars and Stripes.<br /><br />In nearby Fallujah, residents are reporting daily clashes between<br />Iraqi-U.S. security forces and the resistance.<br /><br />"The local police force which used to be out of the conflict are now<br />being attacked," said a resident who gave his name as Abu Mohammed.<br />"Hundreds of local policemen have quit the force after seeing that they<br />are considered a legitimate target by fighters.."<br /><br />The U.S. forces seem to have no clear policy in the face of the<br />sustained resistance.<br /><br />"The U.S. Army seems so confused in handling the security situation in<br />Anbar," said historian Salman. "Attacks are conducted from al-Qa'im on<br />the Syrian border to Abu Ghraib west of Baghdad, all the way through<br />Haditha, Hit, Ramadi and Fallujah on a daily basis."<br /><br />He added: "A contributing factor to the instability of the province is<br />the endless misery of the civilians who live with no services, no<br />infrastructure, random shootings and so many wrongful detentions."<br /><br />According to the new Pentagon quarterly report on Measuring Security<br />and Stability in Iraq, Iraqi casualties rose 51 percent in recent<br />months. The report says Sunni-based insurgency is "potent and viable."<br /><br />The report says that in a period since the establishment of the new<br />Iraqi government, between May 20 and Aug. 11 this year, the average<br />number of weekly attacks rose to nearly 800, almost double the number<br />of the attacks in early 2004.<br /><br />Casualties among Iraqi civilians and security forces averaged nearly<br />120 a day during the period, up from 80 a day reported in the previous<br />quarterly report. Two years ago they were averaging roughly 30 a day.<br /><br />On Aug. 31 the Pentagon announced that it is increasing the number of<br />U.S. troops in Iraq to 140,000, which is 13,000 more than the number<br />five weeks ago.<br /><br />At least 65 U.S. soldiers were killed in August, with 36 of the deaths<br />reported in al-Anbar. That brought the total number killed to at least<br />2,642<br /><br />Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are the sole<br />responsibility of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of<br />the Centre for Research on Globalization.<br /><br />To become a Member of Global Research<br /><br />The Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG) at<br />www.globalresearch.<wbr>ca grants permission to cross-post original Global<br />Research articles in their entirety, or any portions thereof, on<br />community internet sites, as long as the text & title are not modified.<br />The source must be acknowledged and an active URL hyperlink address to<br />the original CRG article must be indicated. The author's copyright note<br />must be displayed. For publication of Global Research articles in print<br />or other forms including commercial internet sites, contact:<br /><a href="mailto:crgeditor@yahoo.com">crgeditor@yahoo.<wbr>com</a><br /><br />www.globalresearch.<wbr>ca contains copyrighted material the use of which<br />has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We<br />are making such material available to our readers under the provisions<br />of "fair use" in an effort to advance a better understanding of<br />political, economic and social issues. The material on this site is<br />distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest<br />in receiving it for research and educational purposes. If you wish to<br />use copyrighted material for purposes other than "fair use" you must<br />request permission from the copyright owner.<br /><br />For media inquiries: <a href="mailto:crgeditor@yahoo.com">crgeditor@yahoo.<wbr>com</a><br /><br />� Copyright Dahr Jamail, Inter Press Service, 2006<br /><br />The url address of this article is:<br />www.globalresearch.<wbr>ca/index.<wbr>php?<br />context=viewArticle<wbr>&amp;code=JAM2006090<wbr>6&articleId=<wbr>3167<br /><br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>======<br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>========<br /><br />----------<br /><br />The<br />War Is Lost<br /><br />By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts<br />September 6, 2006<br /><br />LewRockwell.<wbr>com<br /><br />The Pentagon�s latest quarterly "progress" report to Congress on Iraq<br />is a grim tale of a lost war. The Pentagon told Congress what Bush,<br />Cheney, Rumsfeld, and propaganda organs such as Fox "News" never tell<br />the American public, namely:<br /><br />1. The Sunni-based insurgency remains "potent and viable" despite<br />spiraling Sunni-Shiite violence and beefed up US forces.<br /><br />2. Since the last report three months ago, Iraqi casualties from<br />"sectarian clashes" � the Pentagon�s euphemism for civil war � have<br />soared by more than 50 percent.<br /><br />3. From May when the new Iraqi government was established until<br />August, the average number of weekly attacks increased sharply to 800.<br /><br />4. Since the previous report, Iraqi daily casualties have jumped by<br />50% from 80 per day to 120 per day. Currently, Iraqis are dying at the<br />rate of 43,800 per year from violence.<br /><br />The Iraqi government cowers behind the fortified walls of the "Green<br />Zone." On August 31, the Kurds in the north took down the Iraqi flag<br />and replaced it with the Kurdish one. Most of Iraq is ruled by Shiite<br />and Sunni militias. Conflict between them has forced 160,000 Iraqis to<br />flee their homes.<br /><br />Who is going to tell Bush that the war is lost?<br /><br />Is Rumsfeld going to tell him?<br /><br />Is Cheney going to tell him?<br /><br />How can they tell him after all the bravado and false reports?<br /><br />This is a delusional administration. Confronted with three major polls<br />showing that two-thirds of Americans oppose the Iraq war, Bush declared<br />that he is staying the course, demonstrating yet again his disdain for<br />common sense and the will of the American people.<br /><br />If Bush and his neoconservative cabal were judged by their performance<br />they would be ridden out of town on a rail. If a court of law judged<br />their actions, they would walk the plank.<br /><br />Everything this moronic regime promised about a "cakewalk" war and the<br />ease of pacifying Iraq and turning it into an American puppet democracy<br />has turned to ashes in President Bush�s mouth.<br /><br />Having lost the Iraq war, the neoconservatives are determined to<br />initiate war with Iran.<br /><br />National security expert John Prados says, "The pattern of manipulation<br />and misuse of intelligence that served the Bush administration in the<br />drive to start a war with Iraq is being repeated today for its neighbor<br />Iran."<br /><br />It is now established beyond a reasonable doubt that the neocons<br />intentionally cooked up false intelligence in order to justify the<br />invasion of Iraq, an invasion that has resulted in tens of thousands of<br />Iraqi and American casualties, both dead and maimed.<br /><br />Aggressive wars are themselves war crimes. To intentionally create a<br />false basis for an aggressive war is an act of high treason.<br /><br />Alarmed by the neoconservative drive to start a war with Iran before<br />the US can extricate itself from the Iraq catastrophe, the CIA firmly<br />declared that any Iranian nuclear weapon is a decade away. This<br />undermines the neoconservatives� urgency to attack Iran now.<br /><br />Neoconservative fanatics tried to discredit the CIA with a recent<br />report by the House Intelligence Committee Republican staff written by<br />neoconservative Frederick Fleitz, a prot�g� of neocon heavyweight John<br />Bolton, a person active in concocting the false case for war against<br />Iraq. Fleitz alleges that the CIA is a know-nothing agency that lacks<br />the ability to assess Iran�s ability to make nuclear weapons.<br /><br />Neocons also dismiss the findings of the International Atomic Energy<br />Agency, which issued a report on August 31 reaffirming that there is no<br />tangible proof that Iran�s nuclear energy program has a military<br />aspect.<br /><br />The neoconservatives plan to plunge America into war with Iran before<br />they can be held accountable for the lost war in Iraq.<br /><br />This neoconservative conspiracy against the United States and Iran<br />must be stopped. Neocons must be removed from the government that they<br />have betrayed and held accountable for their crimes.<br /><br />Before America can preach democracy to the world, we must first rescue<br />American democracy from the Bush regime and re-establish government<br />accountability to the people.<br /><br />Dr. Roberts [send him mail] is Chairman of the Institute for Political<br />Economy and Research Fellow at the Independent Institute. He is a<br />former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, former contributing<br />editor for National Review, and was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury<br />in the Reagan administration. He is the co-author of The Tyranny of<br />Good Intentions.<br /><br />Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are the sole<br />responsibility of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of<br />the Centre for Research on Globalization.<br /><br />To become a Member of Global Research<br /><br />The Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG) at<br />www.globalresearch.<wbr>ca grants permission to cross-post original Global<br />Research articles in their entirety, or any portions thereof, on<br />community internet sites, as long as the text & title are not modified.<br />The source must be acknowledged and an active URL hyperlink address to<br />the original CRG article must be indicated. The author's copyright note<br />must be displayed. For publication of Global Research articles in print<br />or other forms including commercial internet sites, contact:<br /><a href="mailto:crgeditor@yahoo.com">crgeditor@yahoo.<wbr>com</a><br /><br />www.globalresearch.<wbr>ca contains copyrighted material the use of which<br />has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We<br />are making such material available to our readers under the provisions<br />of "fair use" in an effort to advance a better understanding of<br />political, economic and social issues. The material on this site is<br />distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest<br />in receiving it for research and educational purposes. If you wish to<br />use copyrighted material for purposes other than "fair use" you must<br />request permission from the copyright owner.<br /><br />For media inquiries: <a href="mailto:crgeditor@yahoo.com">crgeditor@yahoo.<wbr>com</a><br /><br />� Copyright Paul Craig Roberts, LewRockwell.<wbr>com, 2006<br /><br />The url address of this article is:<br />www.globalresearch.<wbr>ca/index.<wbr>php?<br />context=viewArticle<wbr>&code=ROB2006090<wbr>6&articleId=<wbr>3165<br /><br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>======<br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<br /><br />From: Joe Stokes <<a href="mailto:joestokes@sbcglobal.net">joestokes@sbcglobal<wbr>.net</a>><br />Date: September 6, 2006 5:08:05 PM EST<br />To: Joe <<a href="mailto:joestokes@sbcglobal.net">joestokes@sbcglobal<wbr>.net</a>><br />Subject: [911TruthAction] Le Monde Diplomatique-<wbr>5-year anniversary<br />issue about September 11.<br />Reply-To: <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com">911TruthAction@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br /><br />Le Monde Diplomatique, Scandinavian edition, has now published<br />a 5-year anniversary issue about September 11.<br /><br />The issue contains:<br />- an article on Webster Tarpley's MIHOP-theory<br />- a duel of facts between Dr. Steven E. Jones and Dr. James Quintiere<br />- a lengthy interview with Daniele Ganser on the topic of false-flag<br />terrorism and 9/11<br />- and many other articles.<br /><br />Click on links below, and you will find all the articles .<br /><br />Article on why terror is not a serious threat against humanity<br />(continues on the link which leads to article on Tarpley):<br /><br />www.diplo.no/<wbr>pdf.php?showPDF=<wbr>pdf/0609/<wbr>01.pdf<br /><br />A 5-year timeline of the war against terror:<br /><br />www.diplo.no/<wbr>pdf.php?showPDF=<wbr>pdf/0609/<wbr>02.pdf<br /><br />An article which asks the question if United 93 was shot down:<br /><br />www.diplo.no/<wbr>pdf.php?showPDF=<wbr>pdf/0609/<wbr>03.pdf<br /><br />A duel of facts between Professor Steven E. Jones and Dr. James<br />Quintiere:<br /><br />www.diplo.no/<wbr>pdf.php?showPDF=<wbr>pdf/0609/<wbr>08.pdf<br /><br />An article about the MIHOP Theory of Webster Griffin Tarpley:<br /><br />www.diplo.no/<wbr>pdf.php?showPDF=<wbr>pdf/0609/<wbr>09.pdf<br /><br />Interview with Dr. Daniele Ganser on the topic of false flag terrorism<br />and September 11, 2001<br /><br />Norwegian version:<br />www.diplo.no/<wbr>pdf.php?showPDF=<wbr>pdf/0609/<wbr>20.pdf<br /><br />Official translation in English:<br /><a href="http://www.diplo.no/artikkel.php?artID=1028">http://www.diplo.<wbr>no/artikkel.<wbr>php?artID=<wbr>1028</a><br /><br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>======<br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>========<br /><br />NOTE: If the US "Democratic" Party had been even slightly to<br />moderately honest about what really happened 9/11/01, it would have<br />been politically impossible for Disney/ABC to have made this film,<br />which the party now complains about. The people controlling the party<br />have known that 9/11 was an Inside Job, yet they've chosen to prevent<br />the general citizenry from learning it. Now they get their just<br />desserts. It is supremely ironic that the obedient little party<br />director complains that the film doesn't provide "an honest look" at<br />9/11 when in fact--as though part of a sardonic parody of a two-party<br />system--neither has the party itself for nearly five years now. It's<br />important to note that this infamous party has suppressed the truth of<br />not only 9/11 but also that of the stolen '00 and '04 elections, the<br />effects of depleted uranium emissions, the GOP pedophile culture and<br />even the truth of the murder its own Sen. Paul Wellstone and his wife<br />and his daughter and three of his staff and two plane crew. -- kl,<br />pp<br /><br /><a href="http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/09/executive-director-of-">http://americablog.<wbr>blogspot.<wbr>com/2006/<wbr>09/executive-<wbr>director-<wbr>of-</a><br />democratic-party.<wbr>html<br /><br />Wednesday, September 06, 2006<br /><br />Executive Director of Democratic Party slams Disney/ABC for<br />"slanderous" fictional TV show about 9/11<br />by John in DC - 9/06/2006 09:56:00 PM<br /><br />This just in from the Democratic National Committee. I have not seen<br />this kind of bitch-slapping coming out of the Democratic Party since<br />the onset of the Bush administration six years ago. This is vicious.<br />Well deserved, to be sure. But absolutely vicious.<br /><br />Particularly stunning is a paragraph buried in the middle of the open<br />letter that can only be read as a direct threat against Disney/ABC's<br />access to the airwaves:<br />ABC is trying to use the airwaves -- airwaves owned by you and me, and<br />loaned to broadcasters as a public trust -- to slander Democrats and<br />sell a slanderous, irresponsible fraud to the American people, and<br />they're shamefully doing it just weeks away from Election Day.<br /><br />If Disney/ABC doesn't fully appreciate the enemy it is creating in the<br />Democratic party, then heads need to roll at that firm because if I<br />were a shareholder, I'd be considering a suit in a jiffy.<br /><br />Does a major national broadcast network want to stain itself by<br />presenting an irresponsible, slanderous, fraudulent, "docu-drama" to<br />the American public?<br /><br />Not if you and I have the last word -- but either way, we're about to<br />find out.<br /><br />The ABC television network -- a cog in the Walt Disney empire --<br />unleashed a promotional blitz in the last week for a new "docudrama"<br />called "The Path to 9/11". ABC has thrown its corporate might behind<br />the two-night production, and bills it as a public service: a TV event,<br />to quote the ABC tagline, "based on the 9/11 Commission Report".<br /><br />That's false. "The Path to 9/11" is actually a bald-faced attempt to<br />slander Democrats and revise history right before Americans vote in a<br />major election.<br /><br />The miniseries, which was put together by right-wing conservative<br />writers, relies on the old GOP playbook of using terrorism to scare<br />Americans. "The Path to 9/11" mocks the truth and dishonors the memory<br />of 9/11 victims to serve a cheap, callous political agenda. It<br />irresponsibly misrepresents the facts and completely distorts the<br />truth.<br /><br />ABC/Disney executives need to hear from the public and understand that<br />their abuse of the public trust comes with a cost. Tell Walt Disney CEO<br />Robert Iger to keep this right-wing propaganda off the air -- we'll<br />deliver your message:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.democrats.org/pathto911">http://www.democrat<wbr>s.org/pathto911</a><br /><br />This story is breaking quickly. The bias of the "docudrama" only became<br />known when ABC began circulating previews recently. Less than two weeks<br />ago, 9/11 Commission member Richard Ben-Veniste confronted a lead<br />writer of "The Path to 9/11" after watching the first half of the<br />miniseries at a screening, but most of what we know amounts to bits and<br />pieces because ABC chose to screen the miniseries to conservative<br />bloggers and right-wing media outlets exclusively. Almost none of the<br />Democrats portrayed in the film have even been asked for their<br />thoughts.<br /><br />But we still know enough, thanks to news accounts and crack research,<br />to fact check "The Path to 9/11" as a biased, irresponsible mess.<br />Here's what you need to know:<br /><br />Richard Clarke -- the counterterrorism czar for the Clinton<br />administration, now himself a consultant to ABC News -- describes a key<br />scene in "The Path to 9/11" as "180 degrees from what happened." In the<br />scene, a CIA field agent places a phone call to get the go ahead to<br />kill Osama Bin Laden, then in his sights, only to have a senior Clinton<br />administration official refuse and hang up the phone. Sandy Berger,<br />President Clinton's National Security Advisor, called the same scene "a<br />total fabrication. It did not happen." And Roger Cressey, a top Bush<br />and Clinton counterterrorism official, said it was "something straight<br />out of Disney and fantasyland. It's factually wrong. And that's<br />shameful."<br /><br />Another scene revives the old right-wing myth that press reporting made<br />it impossible to track Osama bin Laden, accusing the Washington Post of<br />blowing the secret that American intelligence tracked his satellite<br />phone calls. In reality, responsibility for that blunder -- contrary to<br />"The Path to 9/11" -- rests with none other than the arch-conservative<br />Washington Times.<br /><br />The former National Security Council head of counterterrorism says that<br />President Clinton "approved every request made of him by the CIA and<br />the U.S. military involving using force against bin Laden and<br />al-Qaeda," and the 9/11 report says the CIA had full authority from<br />President Clinton to strike Bin Laden. Yet chief "Path to 9/11"<br />scriptwriter Cyrus Nowrasteh, a friend of Rush Limbaugh, says the<br />miniseries shows how President Clinton had "frequent opportunities in<br />the '90s to stop Bin Laden in his tracks -- but lacked the will to do<br />so."<br />ABC asked only the Republican co-chair of the 9/11 Commission, Tom<br />Kean, Sr., to advise the makers of "The Path to 9/11". The producers<br />optioned two books, one written by a Bush administration political<br />appointee, as the basis of the screenplay -- yet bill the miniseries as<br />"based on the 9/11 Commission Report."<br /><br />This is a picture of bias -- a conservative attempt to rewrite the<br />history of September 11 to blame Democrats, just in time for the<br />election.<br /><br />Tell Walt Disney president Robert Iger that you hold his company<br />responsible -- and that this community demands that ABC tell the truth:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.democrats.org/pathto911">http://www.democrat<wbr>s.org/pathto911</a><br /><br />ABC is trying to use the airwaves -- airwaves owned by you and me, and<br />loaned to broadcasters as a public trust -- to slander Democrats and<br />sell a slanderous, irresponsible fraud to the American people, and<br />they're shamefully doing it just weeks away from Election Day.<br /><br />The Walt Disney Corporation could have given Americans an honest look<br />at September 11. Instead, the company abandoned its duty to the truth<br />-- and embraced the fiction known as "The Path to 9/11."<br /><br />But ABC isn't the only company pushing this gross revision of history.<br />ABC has enlisted the reputable education and children's entertainment<br />company Scholastic, Inc. to send 100,000 letters to high school<br />teachers, urging them to show students "The Path to 9/11". Scholastic<br />has also created a discussion guide for teachers to use to encourage<br />students and their families to watch this irresponsible fraud and then<br />discuss it in school. The discussion guide does not in any way point<br />out the concerns and criticisms that have been raised about the<br />validity and accuracy of the film.<br /><br />We've got to stop this now.<br /><br />ABC/Disney must face an accountability moment. You can ratchet up the<br />pressure on ABC by sending your own letter to Walt Disney CEO Robert<br />Iger -- tell him to keep this propaganda off their air.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.democrats.org/pathto911">http://www.democrat<wbr>s.org/pathto911</a><br /><br />We'll keep you up to date as this story evolves.<br /><br />Thank you,<br />Tom<br /><br />Tom McMahon<br />Executive Director<br />Democratic National Committee<br /><br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>======<br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<br /><br />----------<br /><br />Don't be fooled by this reform:<br />the IMF is still the rich world's viceroy<br /><br />By George Monbiot<br />September 7, 2006<br /><br />The Guardian [U.K.] - 2006-09-05<br /><br />Don't be fooled by this reform: the IMF is still the rich world's<br />viceroy<br /><br />What will be passed off as a democratisation is in fact a way of<br />ensuring the poor global majority continue to have no say<br /><br />The glacier has begun to creak. In the world's most powerful<br />dictatorship we detect the merest hint of a thaw. I am not talking<br />about China or Uzbekistan, Burma or North Korea. This state runs no<br />torture chambers or labour camps. No one is executed, though plenty<br />starve to death as a result of its policies. The unhurried perestroika<br />is taking place in Washington, in the offices of the International<br />Monetary Fund.<br /><br />Like most concessions made by dictatorial regimes, the reforms seem<br />designed not to catalyse further change, but to prevent it. By slightly<br />increasing the shares (and therefore the voting powers) of China, South<br />Korea, Mexico and Turkey, the regime hopes to buy off the most powerful<br />rebel warlords, while keeping the mob at bay. It has even thrown a few<br />coppers from the balcony, for the great unwashed to scuffle over. But<br />no one - except the leaders of the rich nations and the leader writers<br />of just about every newspaper in the rich world - could regard this as<br />an adequate response to its problems.<br /><br />The fund is a body with 184 members. It is run by seven of them - the<br />US, Japan, Germany, the UK, France, Canada and Italy. These happen to<br />be the seven countries that (with Russia) promised to save the world at<br />the G8 meeting in 2005. The junta sustains its control by insisting<br />that each dollar buys a vote. The bigger a country's financial quota,<br />the more say it has over the running of the IMF. This means that it is<br />run by the countries that are least affected by its policies.<br /><br />A major decision requires 85% of the vote, which ensures that the US,<br />with 17%, has a veto over the fund's substantial business. The UK,<br />Germany, France and Japan have 22% between them, and each has a<br />permanent seat on the board. By a weird arrangement permitting rich<br />nations to speak on behalf of the poor, Canada and Italy have effective<br />control over a further 8%. The other European countries are also<br />remarkably powerful: Belgium, for example, has a direct entitlement to<br />2.1% of the vote and indirect control over 5.1% - more than twice the<br />allocation of India or Brazil. Europe, Japan, Canada and the US wield a<br />total of 63%. The 80 poorest countries, by contrast, have 10% between<br />them.<br /><br />These quotas no longer even reflect real financial contributions to the<br />running of the IMF: it now obtains much of its capital from loan<br />repayments by its vassal states. But the G7 nations still behave as if<br />it belongs to them. They decide who runs it (the managing director is<br />always a European and his deputy always an American) and how the money<br />is spent. You begin to wonder why the developing countries bother to<br />turn up.<br /><br />In principle, this power is supposed to be balanced by something called<br />the "basic vote" - 250 shares (entitling them to $25m worth of votes)<br />are allocated to every member. But while the value of the rich<br />countries' quotas has risen since the IMF was founded in 1944, the<br />value of the basic votes has not. It has fallen from 11.3% of the total<br />allocation to 2.1%. The leaked paper passed to me by an excellent<br />organisation called the Bretton Woods Project (everything we know about<br />the IMF has to be leaked) shows that the fund intends to democratise<br />itself by "at least doubling" the basic vote. That sorts it all out,<br />then - the 80 poorest countries will be able to claim, between them,<br />another 0.9%. Even this pathetic concession was granted only after the<br />African members took a political risk by publicly opposing the fund's<br />proposals. Doubtless the US government is currently reviewing their<br />trading status.<br /><br />All this is compounded by an internal political process that looks as<br />if it was contrived in North Korea, not Washington. There are no formal<br />votes, just a "consensus process" controlled by the Dear Leaders of the<br />G7. The decisions taken by each member state cannot be revealed to the<br />public. Nor can the transcripts of the board's meetings and the<br />"working papers" on which it bases its internal reforms. Even reports<br />by the IMF's ombudsman - the "independent evaluation office" - are<br />censored by the management, and their conclusions are changed to shift<br />the blame for the fund's failures to its client states. Needless to<br />say, the IMF insists that the states it lends to must commit themselves<br />to "good governance" and "transparency" if they are to receive its<br />money.<br /><br />None of this would matter so much if it had stuck to its original<br />mandate of stabilising the international monetary system. But after the<br />collapse of the Bretton Woods agreement in 1971 the IMF more or less<br />lost its mission to maintain exchange rates, and began to look for a<br />new role. As a paper by the law professor Daniel Bradlow shows, when it<br />amended its articles of asso-ciation in 1978 they were so loosely<br />drafted as to grant the IMF permission to interfere in almost any<br />aspect of a country's governance. It lost its influence over the<br />economic policies of the G7 and became instead the rich world's<br />viceroy, controlling the poorer nations at its behest. It began to<br />micro-manage their economies without reference to the people or even<br />their governments. Since then, no rich country has required its<br />services, and few poor countries have been able to shake it off.<br /><br />This casts an interesting light on the decision - to be endorsed at the<br />IMF's meeting in Singapore next week - to enhance the quota for the<br />four middle-income countries. After the fund "helped" the struggling<br />economies of east and south-east Asia in 1997, by laying waste to them<br />on behalf of US hedge funds and investment companies, the nations of<br />that region decided that they would never allow themselves to fall prey<br />to it again.<br /><br />They began indemnifying themselves against the fund's tender loving<br />care by building up their own reserves of capital. Now, just as China<br />and South Korea have ensured that they will never again require the<br />IMF's services, they have been granted more power to decide how it<br />operates. In other words, they are deemed fit to govern when - like the<br />G7 - they can exercise power without reaping the consequences. The<br />smaller your stake in the outcome, the greater your vote.<br /><br />None of this seems to cause any difficulties to the gatekeepers of<br />mainstream opinion. On Saturday a leading article in the Washington<br />Post observed that "to be legitimate, multilateral institutions must<br />reflect the global distribution of power as it is now, not as it was<br />when these institutions were set up more than half a century ago". What<br />a fascinating definition that is, and how wrong we must have been to<br />imagine that legitimacy requires democracy. Hurrah for corporatism - it<br />didn't die with Mussolini after all.<br /><br />I am among those who believe that the IMF is, and always will be, the<br />wrong body - inherently flawed and constitutionally unjust. But if its<br />leaders and supporters are to persuade us that it might, one day, have<br />a legitimate role in running the world's financial systems, they will<br />have to do a hell of a lot better than this.<br /><br />George Monbiot's book Heat: How to Stop the Planet Burning is published<br />this month<br /><br />Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are the sole<br />responsibility of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of<br />the Centre for Research on Globalization.<br /><br />To become a Member of Global Research<br /><br />The Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG) at<br />www.globalresearch.<wbr>ca grants permission to cross-post original Global<br />Research articles in their entirety, or any portions thereof, on<br />community internet sites, as long as the text & title are not modified.<br />The source must be acknowledged and an active URL hyperlink address to<br />the original CRG article must be indicated. 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I am trying to keep us<br />healthy and alive to fight the NWO agenda.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.rense.com/CS/cs1.htm">http://www.rense.<wbr>com/CS/cs1.<wbr>htm</a><br /><br />Jake<br /><br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>======<br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=========<wbr>=======<br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:prez@usa-exile.org?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbWpibW5zBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4OARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27788">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27788;_ylc=X3oDMTM4czB1dW5mBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4OARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3Nzg4">Messages in this topic </a>(1) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>6. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27789;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdTM3YXRiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4OQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="6">Re: another mainstream 9/11 article - kudos to Barrie Zwicker </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "JP Liggett" <a href="mailto:JP@JPLiggett.com?Subject=">mailto:JP@JPLiggett.com?Subject=</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/jpliggett">jpliggett </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 11:55 am (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content"><br />yes, I'll be there. It was a decent article, without any mention of<br />"theories", just the opinion and facts as stated by Zwicker. It's too bad<br />it's not in google's cache, since I got the link from a google alert. The<br />time between my sending my post and the article going dead was about 15<br />minutes. The whole site was down.<br /><br />I guess the cover-uppers feel they can continue to hide information, but it<br />just exposes them and the cover-up facilitators. They know we're going to<br />be coming for them and their ilk. I'm especially pissed at the tech dudes<br />that make this BS happen. Those govt tech dudes can't even have their own<br />union, so they just lie down and help our country be destroyed.<br /><br />Jolly Roger<br /><internetspies@<wbr>ya<br />hoo.com> To<br />Sent by: <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com">911TruthAction@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a><br />911TruthAction@<wbr>ya cc<br />hoogroups.com <a href="mailto:JP@JPLiggett.com">JP@JPLiggett.<wbr>com</a><br />Subject<br />Re: [911TruthAction] another<br />09/07/2006 02:08 mainstream 9/11 article - kudos to<br />AM Barrie Zwicker<br /><br /><br />Please respond to<br />911TruthAction@<wbr>ya<br />hoogroups.com<br /><br /><br /><br />the link's already dead, JP -- must have been a good article. Hopefully<br />he's breaking away from that LIHOP non-sense. Are you going to GZ on the<br />11th? (or any other street action?)<br /><br />JP Liggett <<a href="mailto:JP@JPLiggett.com">JP@JPLiggett.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br /><a href="http://www.pasadenaweekly.com/article.php?id=3825&IssueNum=36">http://www.pasadena<wbr>weekly.com/<wbr>article.php?<wbr>id=3825&IssueNum<wbr>=36</a><br />Author Barrie Zwicker is among a growing number who believe a ...<br />Pasadena Weekly - Pasadena,CA,<wbr>USA<br />... Century] document, "Rebuilding America's Defenses," of September 2002<br />put ... taking earlier and/or effective action to expose the Achilles heel<br />of 9/11. ...<br /><br />Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small<br />Business. </div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:JP@JPLiggett.com?Subject=">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzamJiamc1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4OQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27789">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27749;_ylc=X3oDMTM4bnZuc2hkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc4OQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3NzQ5">Messages in this topic </a>(5) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>7. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27790;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbm1ibzE4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5MARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="7">Michel Chossudovsky: The Next Phase of the Middle East War </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Dick Eastman" <a href="mailto:olfriend@nwinfo.net?Subject=Re:">mailto:olfriend@nwinfo.net?Subject=Re:</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/oldickeastman">oldickeastman </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 12:08 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content"><a href="http://informationclearinghouse.info/article14860.htm">http://informationc<wbr>learinghouse.<wbr>info/article1486<wbr>0.htm</a><br /><br />The Next Phase of the Middle East War<br /><br />By Michel Chossudovsky<br />09/05/06 "GlobalResearch" -- -- Israel's war on Lebanon is an integral part of a US sponsored "military roadmap".<br />The war on Lebanon, which has resulted in countless atrocities including the destruction of the nation's economy and civilian infrastructure, is "a stage" in a sequence of carefully planned military operations.<br />Lebanon constitutes a strategic corridor between Israel and North-western Syria. The underlying objective of this war was the militarization of Lebanon, including the stationing of foreign troops, as a precondition for carrying out the next phase of a broader military agenda.<br />Formally under a UN mandate, the foreign troops to be stationed on Lebanese soil on the immediate border with Syria, will be largely although not exclusively from NATO countries. This military force mandated by the UN Security Council is by no means neutral. It responds directly to US and Israeli interests.<br />Moreover, the timely withdrawal of Syrian troops, following the February 2005 assassination of former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri has contributed to opening up a "new space". The withdrawal of Syrian troops served Israeli interests. The timely pullout was of strategic significance: it was a major factor in the timing and planning of the July 2006 IDF attacks on Lebanon.<br />In the aftermath of the Israeli bombings and the "ceasefire", UN Security Council Resolution 1701, drafted by France and the US in close consultation with the Israeli government, has paved the way for the militarization of Lebanon, under a bogus UN mandate.<br />The Next Phase of the Middle East War<br />onfirmed by official statements and military documents, the US in close coordination with Britain (and in consultation with its NATO partners), is planning to launch a war directed against Iran and Syria. US Ambassador to the UN John Bolton has already initiated the draft of a UN Security Council resolution with a view to imposing sanctions on Tehran for its alleged (nonexistent) nuclear weapons program. Whether this resolution is adopted is not the main issue. The US may decide to proceed in defiance of the Security Council, following a veto by Russia and/or China. The vote of France and Britain, among the permanent members has already been secured.<br />US military sources have confirmed that an aerial attack, pursuant to a sanctions regime on Iran, with or without UN approval, would involve a large scale deployment comparable to the US "shock and awe" bombing raids on Iraq in March 2003:<br />American air strikes on Iran would vastly exceed the scope of the 1981 Israeli attack on the Osiraq nuclear center in Iraq, and would more resemble the opening days of the 2003 air campaign against Iraq. Using the full force of operational B-2 stealth bombers, staging from Diego Garcia or flying direct from the United States, possibly supplemented by F-117 stealth fighters staging from al Udeid in Qatar or some other location in theater, the two-dozen suspect nuclear sites would be targeted.<br />Military planners could tailor their target list to reflect the preferences of the Administration by having limited air strikes that would target only the most crucial facilities ... or the United States could opt for a far more comprehensive set of strikes against a comprehensive range of WMD related targets, as well as conventional and unconventional forces that might be used to counterattack against US forces in Iraq<br /><br />(See Globalsecurity.<wbr>org at <a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iran-strikes.htm">http://www.globalse<wbr>curity.org/<wbr>military/<wbr>ops/iran-<wbr>strikes.htm</a><br />The aerial bombing plans have been fully operational ("in an advanced state of readiness") since June 2005. The various components of the military operation are firmly under US Command, coordinated by the Pentagon and US Strategic Command Headquarters (USSTRATCOM) at the Offutt Air Force base in Nebraska.<br />In November 2004, US Strategic Command conducted a major exercise of a "global strike plan" entitled "Global Lightening". The latter involved a simulated attack using both conventional and nuclear weapons against a "fictitious enemy" [Iran]. Following the "Global Lightening" exercise, US Strategic Command declared "an advanced state of readiness".<br />The operational implementation of the Global Strike is called CONCEPT PLAN (CONPLAN) 8022. The latter is described as "an actual plan that the Navy and the Air Force translate into strike package for their submarines and bombers,'<br />The command structure of the operation is centralized and ultimately The Pentagon will decide on the sequence; " if and when" to launch military operations against Iran and Syria. Israeli military actions and those of other coalition partners including Turkey, would be carried out in close coordination with the Pentagon.<br />Ground War<br />While the threat of punitive aerial bombardments of Iran's nuclear facilities have been announced repeatedly by the Bush administration, recent developments suggest that an all out ground war is also under preparation.<br />CONPLAN constitutes only one component of the Middle East military agenda. CONPLAN 8022 does not contemplate a ground war. It posits "no boots on the ground", which was the initial assumption envisaged in relation to the proposed aerial attacks on Iran.<br />US and Israeli military planners are fully aware that the aerial "punitive bombings" will almost inevitably lead coalition forces into a ground war scenario in which they will have to confront Iranian and Syrian forces in the battlefield.<br />Tehran has confirmed that it will retaliate if attacked, in the form of ballistic missile strikes directed against Israel as well as against US military facilities in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf, which would immediately lead us into a scenario of military escalation and all out war.<br />Iranian troops could cross the Iran-Iraq border and confront coalition forces inside Iraq. Israeli troops and/or Special Forces could enter into Syria.<br />The foreign troops stationed in Lebanon under UN mandate would respond to the diktats of the US led coalition and the prior commitments reached with Washington and Tel Aviv in the context of the various military alliances (NATO-Israel, Turkey-Israel, GUUAM, etc).<br />War Games<br />These military preparations have also been marked, quite recently, by the conduct of war games.<br />In late August, Iran was involved in the conduct of war games in major regions of the country, including border areas with Turkey, Iraq, Azerbaijan, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Iran's Defense Minister General Mostafa Mohammad Najjar has confirmed the deployment of enhanced military capabilities including weapons systems and troops on the Iranian border: "[Iranian] forces are supervising all movements by trans-regional troops and their agents around the Iranian borders" (FARS news, 2 September 2006)<br />Iran War Games August 2006.<br />in the region including the planned attacks against Iran. (See Michel Chossudovsky, August 2006). In turn, China an Kazakhstan held concurrent war games under the auspices of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).<br />Azerbaijan and neighboring Georgia have close military ties to Washington. Both countries are part of GUUAM, a military alliance with the US and NATO.<br /><br />Turkey is a close ally of Israel. Since 2005, Israel has deployed Special Forces in the mountainous areas of Turkey bordering Iran and Syria with the collaboration of the Ankara government: Pakistan is also a close ally of the US and Britain. Georgia also has a military cooperation agreement with Israel.<br /><br />Meanwhile, the USS Enterprise, America's largest aircraft carrier is en route to the Persian Gulf.<br />US Troop Build-up<br />US troops in Iraq have been increased to 140,000 as confirmed by recent Pentagon statements (Reuters, 2 September 2006) These plans have been coupled with a the compulsory recall of "inactive servicemen" as well as the expansion of mercenary forces. (Mahdi Darius Namzaroaya, August 2006)<br />The Pentagon justifies the troop build-up as part of a "routine" process of replacement and rotation, required in its ongoing war against "terrorists" in Iraq. The speeding up of military recruitment is also occurring in the core countries of the Anglo-American coalition including Great Britain. Australia and Canada (see also Recruiting Canada). Canada and Australia are aligned with the US. Australian Prime Minister John Howard as well as Canada's Steven Harper have confirmed their commitment to the US-Israeli war and have promised an expansion of the armed forces in their respective countries.<br />Meanwhile British troops stationed in Iraq have been redeployed to the Iranian border in southern Iraq. This redeployment has been casually presented by Britain's Ambassador to Iraq as part of a "crack down on smuggling and the entrance of weapons into Iraq from Iran".<br />While British officials are maintaining no desire or preparations for a conflict with Iran, more British troops are being mobilized and deployed to Iraq at the same time. The Light Infantry of the 2nd Battalion, another unit with rapid deployment capabilities, is deploying to the southern Iraqi border with Iran. The 2nd Battalion is being sent to Iraq under the pretext of working in the Rear Operations Battle Group which will provide escorts for military convoys and security for British forces and bases in Basra. (See Mahdi Darius Namzaroaya, August 2006)<br />The Role of Israel<br />In the wake of the war on Lebanon. Israel's military plans and pronouncements are increasingly explicit. Tel Aviv has announced plans to wage a pre-emptive "full-scale war" against Iran and Syria, implying the deployment of both air and ground force. These war plans are now said to at the top of the defense agenda:<br />"Israel is preparing for a possible war with both Iran and Syria, according to Israeli political and military sources."<br />(...)<br />"The challenge from Iran and Syria is now top of the Israeli defense agenda, higher than the Palestinian one," said an Israeli defense source. Shortly before the war in Lebanon Major-General Eliezer Shkedi, the commander of the air force, was placed in charge of the "Iranian front", a new position in the Israeli Defense Forces. His job will be to command any future strikes on Iran and Syria."<br />(...)<br />In the past we prepared for a possible military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities," said one insider, "but Iran's growing confidence after the war in Lebanon means we have to prepare for a full-scale war, in which Syria will be an important player."<br />(...)<br />As a result of the change in the defense priorities, the budget for the Israeli forces in the West Bank and Gaza is to be reduced." (Sunday Times, 3 September 2006)<br />Media Disinformation<br />The Western media is beating the drums of war.<br />The Sunday Times views Israel's war plans as legitimate acts of self defense, to prevent Tehran from launching an all out nuclear attack on Israel: "Iran and Syria have ballistic missiles that can cover most of Israel, including Tel Aviv. An emergency budget has now been assigned to building modern shelters."<br />The fact that Iran does not possess nuclear weapons capabilities as confirmed by the IAEA report does not seem to be an issue for debate.<br />Media disinformation has contributed to creating an atmosphere of fear and intimidation. The announcement on August 10 by the British Home Office of a foiled large scale terror attack to simultaneously blow up as many as ten airplanes, conveys the impression that it is the Western World rather than the Middle East which is under attack.<br /><br />Realities are twisted upside down. The disinformation campaign has gone into full gear. The British and US media are increasingly pointing towards "preemptive war" as an act of "self defense" against Al Qaeda and the State sponsors of terrorism, who are allegedly preparing a Second 911.<br />The underlying objective, through fear and intimidation, is ultimately to build public acceptance for the next stage of the Middle East "war on terrorism" which is directed against Syria and Iran.<br />The antiwar movement has also been weakened.<br />While China and Russia will oppose the US led war at the diplomatic level as well as at the UN Security Council, Washington has secured the support of France and Germany. While Russia and China have military cooperation agreements with Iran, they would most probably not would intervene militarily in favor of Iran.<br />NATO is broadly supportive of the US led military agenda. In February 2005, NATO signed a military cooperation agreement with Israel.<br />Nuclear Weapons against Iran<br />The use of tactical nuclear weapons by the US and Israel against Iran, is contemplated, ironically in retaliation for Iran's nonexistent nuclear weapons program.<br />The Bush administration'<wbr>s new nuclear doctrine contains specific "guidelines" which allow for "preemptive" nuclear strikes against "rogue enemies" which "possess" or are "developing" weapons of mass destruction (WMD). (2001 Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) and Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations (DJNO)).<br />CONPLAN 8022, referred to above, is 'the overall umbrella plan for sort of the pre-planned strategic scenarios involving nuclear weapons.'<br />'It's specifically focused on these new types of threats -- Iran, North Korea -- proliferation and potentially terrorists too,' he said. 'There's nothing that says that they can't use CONPLAN 8022 in limited scenarios against Russian and Chinese targets.'(According to Hans Kristensen, of the Nuclear Information Project, quoted in Japanese economic News Wire, op cit)<br />The mission of JFCCSGS is to implement CONPLAN 8022, in other words to trigger a nuclear war with Iran.<br />The Commander in Chief, namely George W. Bush would instruct the Secretary of Defense, who would then instruct the Joint Chiefs of staff to activate CONPLAN 8022.<br />The use of nuclear weapons against Iran would be coordinated with Israel, which possesses a sophisticated nuclear arsenal.<br />The use of nuclear weapons by Israel or the US cannot be excluded, particularly in view of the fact that tactical nuclear weapons have now been reclassified as a variant of the conventional bunker buster bombs and are authorized for use in conventional war theaters. ("they are harmless to civilians because the explosion is underground"<wbr>).<br />In this regard, Israel and the US rather than Iran constitute a nuclear threat.<br />The World is at a Critical Crossroads<br /><br />The Bush Administration has embarked upon a military adventure which threatens the future of humanity. This is not an overstatement. If aerial bombardments were to be launched against Iran, they would trigger a ground war and the escalation of the conflict to a much broader region. Even in the case of aerial and missile using conventional warheads, the bombings would unleash a nuclear nightmare resulting from the spread of nuclear radiation following the destruction of Iran's nuclear energy facilities.<br />Throughout history, the structure of military alliances has played a crucial role in triggering major military conflicts. In contrast to the situation prevailing prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, America's ongoing military adventure is now firmly supported by the Franco-German alliance. Moreover, Israel is slated to play a direct role in this military operation.<br />NATO is firmly aligned with the Anglo-American-<wbr>Israeli military axis, which also includes Australia and Canada. In 2005, NATO signed a military cooperation agreement with Israel, and Israel has a longstanding bilateral military agreement with Turkey.<br />Iran has observer status in The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) and is slated to become a full member of SCO. China and Russia have far-reaching military cooperation agreements with<br />China and Russia are firmly opposed to a US-led military operation in the diplomatic arena. While the US sponsored military plan threatens Russian and Chinese interests in Central Asia and the Caspian sea basin, it is unlikely that they would intervene militarily on the side of Iran or Syria.<br />The planned attack on Iran must be understood in relation to the existing active war theaters in the Middle East, namely Afghanistan, Iraq and Lebanon-Palestine.<br />The conflict could easily spread from the Middle East to the Caspian sea basin. It could also involve the participation of Azerbaijan and Georgia, where US troops are stationed.<br />Military action against Iran and Syria would directly involve Israel's participation, which in turn would trigger a broader war throughout the Middle East, not to mention the further implosion in the Palestinian occupied territories. Turkey is closely associated with the proposed aerial attacks.<br />If the US-UK-Israeli war plans were to proceed, the broader Middle East- Central Asian region would flare up, from the Eastern Mediterranean to the Afghan-Chinese border. At present, there are three distinct war theaters: Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine-Lebanon. An attack directed against Iran would serve to integrate these war theaters transforming the broader Middle East Central Asian region into an integrated war zone. (see map above)<br />In turn the US sponsored aerial bombardments directed against Iran could contribute to triggering a ground war characterized by Iranian attacks directed against coalition troops in Iraq. In turn, Israeli forces would enter into Syria.<br />An attack on Iran would have a direct impact on the resistance movement inside Iraq. It would also put pressure on America's overstretched military capabilities and resources in both the Iraqi and Afghan war theaters.<br />In other words, the shaky geopolitics of the Central Asia- Middle East region, the three existing war theaters in which America is currently, involved, the direct participation of Israel and Turkey, the structure of US sponsored military alliances, etc. raises the specter of a broader conflict.<br />The war against Iran is part of a longer term US military agenda which seeks to militarize the entire Caspian sea basin, eventually leading to the destabilization and conquest of the Russian Federation.<br />The Pentagon's Second 911<br />The economic and political dislocations resulting from this military agenda are far-reaching.<br />If the attacks directed against Iran and Syria were to proceed, martial law and/or a state of emergency could be declared in the US and possibly Britain on the pretext that the homeland is under attack by Iran sponsored terrorists. The purpose of these measures would essentially be to curb the antiwar movement and provide legitimacy to an illegal war.<br />The Pentagon has intimated in this regard, in an official statement, that "another [9/11] attack could create both a justification and an opportunity to retaliate against some known targets [Iran and Syria]". In a timely statement, barely a few days following the onslaught of the bombing of Lebanon, Vice President Cheney reiterated his warning: "The enemy that struck on 9/11 is fractured and weakened, yet still lethal, still determined to hit us again" (Waterloo Courier, Iowa, 19 July 2006, italics added).<br />Reversing the Tide of War<br />The issues raised in this article do not necessarily imply that the war will take place. What the analysis of official statments and military documents onfirms is that:<br /><br />a) the war is part of a political agenda;<br /><br />b) military plans to launch an attack on Iran and Syria are "in an advanced stage of readiness".<br /><br />The issue is not whether the war will inevitably take place but what are the instruments at our disposal which will enable us to shunt and ultimately disarm this global military agenda.<br /><br />War criminals occupy positions of authority. The citizenry is galvanized into supporting the rulers, who are "committed to their safety and well-being". Through media disinformation, war is given a humanitarian mandate.<br />The legitimacy of the war must be addressed. Antiwar sentiment alone does not disarm a military agenda. High ranking officials of the Bush administration, members of the military and the US Congress have been granted the authority to uphold an illegal war.<br /><br />The corporate backers and sponsors of war and war crimes must also be targeted including the oil companies, the defense contractors, the financial institutions and the corporate media, which has become an integral part of the war propaganda machine.<br />There is a sense of urgency. In the weeks and months ahead, the antiwar movement must act, consistently, and address a number of key issues:<br />1. The role of media disinformation in sustaining the military agenda is crucial.<br /><br />We will not succeed in our endeavours unless the propaganda apparatus is weakened and eventually dismantled. It is essential to inform our fellow citizens on the causes and consequences of the US-led war, not to mention the extensive war crimes and atrocities which are routinely obfuscated by the media. This is no easy task. It requires an effective counter-propaganda program which refutes mainstream media assertions.<br /><br />It is essential that the relevant information and analysis reaches the broader public. The Western media is controlled by a handful of powerful business syndicates. The media conglomerates which control network TV and the printed press must be challenged through cohesive actions which reveal the lies and falsehoods.<br /><br />2. There is opposition within the political establishment in the US as well as within the ranks of the Armed Forces.<br /><br />While this opposition does not necessarily question to overall direction of US foreign policy, it is firmly opposed to military adventurism, including the use of nuclear weapons. These voices within the institutions of the State, the Military and the business establishment are important because they can be usefully channeled to discredit and ultimately dismantle the "war on terrorism" consensus. The broadest possible alliance of political and social forces is, therefore, required to prevent a military adventure which in a very real sense threatens the future of humanity.<br />3. The structure of military alliances must be addressed. A timely shift in military alliances could potentially reverse the course of history.<br /><br />Whereas France and Germany are broadly supportive of the US led war, there are strong voices in both countries as well as within the European Union, which firmly oppose the US led military agenda, both at the grassroots level as well within the political system itself.<br /><br />It is essential that the commitments made by European heads of government and heads of State to Washington be cancelled or nullified, through pressure exerted at the appropriate political levels. This applies, in particular, to the unbending support of the Bush adminstration, expressed by President Jacques Chirac and Chancellor Angela Merkel.<br /><br />The weakening of the system of alliances which commits Western Europe to supporting the Anglo-American military axis, could indeed contribute to reversing the tide. Washington would hesitate to wage a war on Iran without the support of France and Germany.<br />4. The holding of large antiwar rallies is important and essential. But in will not in itself reverse the tide of war unless it is accompanied by the development of a cohesive antiwar network.<br /><br />What is required is a grass roots antiwar network, a mass movement at national and international levels, which challenges the legitimacy of the main military and political actors, as well as their corporate sponsors, and which would ultimately be instrumental in unseating those who rule in our name. The construction of this type of network will take time to develop. Initially, it should focus on developing an antiwar stance within existing citizens' organizations (e.g. trade unions, community organizations, professional regroupings, student federations, municipal councils, etc.).<br />5. 9/11 plays a crucial and central role in the propaganda campaign.<br /><br />The threat of an Al Qaeda "Attack on America" is being used profusely by the Bush administration and its indefectible British ally to galvanize public opinion in support of a global military agenda. Revealing the lies behind 911 would serve to undermine the legitimacy of the "war on terrorism". Without 911, the war criminals in high office do not have a leg to stand on. The entire national security construct collapses like a deck of cards. Known and documented, the "Islamic terror network" is a creation of the US intelligence apparatus. Several of the terror alerts were based on fake intelligence as revealed in the recent foiled "liquid bomb attack". There is evidence that the several of the terrorist "mass casualty events" which have resulted in civilian casualties were triggered by the military and/or intelligence services. (e.g Bali 2002).<br /><br />The "war on terrorism" is bogus. The 911 narrative as conveyed by the 911 Commission report is fabricated. The Bush administration is involved in acts of cover-up and complicity at the highest levels of government.<br />Michel Chossudovsky is the author of the international best seller "The Globalization of Poverty " published in eleven languages. He is Professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and Director of the Center for Research on Globalization. His most recent book is America's "War on Terrorism", Global Research, 2005.<br />To order Chossudovsky'<wbr>s book America's "War on Terrorism", click here<br /><br />Note: Readers are welcome to cross-post this article with a view to spreading the word and warning people of the dangers of a broader Middle East war. 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Well how can anyone explain the puddles of melted steel that remained 6 weeks after the collapse of the world trade centers? ... (more)<br />------------<wbr>---------<wbr>---------<wbr>-<br /><br />It's the molten steel that proves the 9-11 false-flag crime (one of many proofs).<br /><br />Molten aluminum disproves the no-planers, but not the 9-11 scholar-scientist investigators.<br /><br />Ruthercap claims the thermate would have to have been applied "around 236 steel supports all around the outside of the building " Moseley says it would have had to have been employed " cutting 236 or so perimeter steel columns, all around the outside of the building on each floor ... would have to be located in approximately 250 different locations on EVERY floor, counting the interior columns in addition to the PERIMETER columns."<br />"<br /><br />But all that was not necessary -- what was needed was that thermate be used to collapse one floor to start the pancaking domino effect -- maybe this required one thermate device at the core on just one floor. Remember what Ruthercap and Mosely are claiming, that a jetliner made a hole and spilled kerosene which softened the steel which caused the collapse. The answer is that such an event would not provide sufficient heat or mechanical destruction to bring down the building. More heat was needed -- and more heat is in evidence in the form of the molten steel that kerosene could not have produced. Jones finds the traces chemists would expect from thermate. What is there left to say?<br /><br />If heat was applied to the core on one floor of each tower you may or may not expect to see from the outside streams of molten steel draining down the outside walls.<br /><br />Let's do a reality check. Was there molten steel 3 to 5 weeks after the event? Could a fire of kerosene and office furniture and walls still with asbestos fire-proofing have melted (not weakened, but melted!) that steel?<br /><br />And is there any way that NIST considered (tested) the thermate explanation? Is there any reason why NIST has not discussed the molten metal pool under the debris of south tower -- certainly they should have identified what kind of metal it was in their extensive report. Can someone direct me to such a discussion by NIST?<br /><br />Real Thermate Video<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRtVnenOkYg&amp;mode=related&search=">http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch?<wbr>v=cRtVnenOkYg&amp;<wbr>mode=related&<wbr>search=</a><br /><br />----- Original Message -----<br />From: Jacob Roginsky<br /><br />I am not sure aluminum will melt at the temperatures of the ordinary office fires.<br />What is the average temperature of an ordinary office fire? The melting point of<br />aluminum is 1220 degrees Fahrenheit.<br /><br />...<br /><br />Jones claims that the emissivity of melted aluminum is very low and that as a<br />result of that and its other characteristics melted aluminum must have silvery color,<br />rather than the color of the metallic liquid observed at WTC.<br /><br />...<br /><br />Jon Moseley "allegedly" wrote:<br /><br />... one person jumps back and forth between (a) molten metal allegedly seen just before collapse -- in ONE tower ONLY as you point out, (b) molten metal allegedly existing just after collapse, and (c) molten metal allegedly seen 3 to 5 weeks later.<br /><br />...<br /><br />... referring to the video of bright yellow liquid, apparently molten metal. The NIST has concluded that this was aluminum from the aircraft, which would melt easily at the temperatures of an ordinary office fire, much less a fire with accelerant from jet fuel.<br /><br />MY POINT was that the bright yellow flow of apparent metal seen in news footage occurs CONCENTRATED in ONE LOCATION. That is IN-consistent with demolition, which would require thermite or thermate ...CUTTING 236 or so PERIMETER steel columns, ALL AROUND THE OUTSIDE of the building on EACH floor.<br /><br />Thus thermite / thermate ... would have to be located in approximately 250 different locations on EVERY floor, counting the interior columns in addition to the PERIMETER columns.<br /><br />:<br />Sent: Sep 7, 2006 1:21 AM<br />Subject: Re: Flow of molten ...<br /><br />... You are talking about poured concrete floors with expansion joints and pipes that lead to the lower floors All are access ways for the Molten Alloy to travel downwards and laterally which it did. The molten pool of aircraft alloy did not stay in one place but spread out and down causing secondary fires and thermal transfer to floor support beams and Columns.<br /><br />There was no controlled demolition in any of any of the buildings that collapsed on 91101 Simply put the Steel that was recovered from the affected floors shows the massive fire damage and there is a problem with any steel analysis from the WTC towers or the recovery site.<br /><br />the exact Location of the sample recovered must be recorded and date removed from site this is not done by any of the independent research groups. There fore most of their findings I do not accept as they fail Evidence standards. ...<br /><br />Also, The pooling you speak of only occurred in WTC south that was hit off center and while the main body of the aircraft did for the most part stay inside the south tower with the exception of both of the jets, the front wheel and fragments of the plane .<br /><br /><a href="mailto:ruthercap@earthlink.net">ruthercap@earthlink<wbr>.net</a> writes:<br /><br />You will note that the flow of molten metal, which apparently is authentic, comes from ONE location.<br /><br />If there were demolition, the demolition would have to destroy around 236 steel supports all around the OUTSIDE of the building (I forget the exact number, forgive me, it might be 238 or something like that). Therefore, any molten metal would flow ALL AROUND THE BUILDING from 236 to 238 different locations, where each of the steel supports were being cut. Instead, we see a single flow in ONE place.<br /><br />...<br /><br />WTC steel beams & collapse analysis<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfe0Hbgq1HY&mode=related&search=">http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch?<wbr>v=Bfe0Hbgq1HY&amp;<wbr>mode=related&<wbr>search=</a><br />----------<br /><br />No virus found in this outgoing message.<br />Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br />Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/441 - Release Date: 9/7/2006<br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:olfriend@nwinfo.net?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdGZqOW1kBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5MQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27791">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27791;_ylc=X3oDMTM4ZmRxdHNmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5MQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3Nzkx">Messages in this topic </a>(1) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>9. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27792;_ylc=X3oDMTJzZWE1YW83BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5MgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="9">President Bush's speech, 9/11 Fives Years Later </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "APFN" <a href="mailto:apfn@apfn.org?Subject=Re:">mailto:apfn@apfn.org?Subject=Re:</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/klvnetacom">klvnetacom </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 12:30 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content">Radio Your Way <mailto:<a href="mailto:pogo@apfn.org">pogo@apfn.org</a>> President Bush's speech,<br />9/11 Fives Years Later Thu Sep 7, 2006 16:17<br /><a href="http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=104322;title=APFN">http://disc.<wbr>server.com/<wbr>discussion.<wbr>cgi?disc=<wbr>149495;article=<wbr>104322;title=APFN</a><br /><<a href="http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=104322;title=APFN">http://disc.<wbr>server.com/<wbr>discussion.<wbr>cgi?disc=<wbr>149495;article=<wbr>104322;title=APFN</a>><br /><br /><br />9/7/06 President Bush's speech<br /><br />U.S. President Bush speaks in the East Room of the White House in<br />Washington<br />AUDIO:<br /><a href="http://www.apfn.net/pogo/L001I060907-bush-speech-911.MP3">http://www.apfn.<wbr>net/pogo/<wbr>L001I060907-<wbr>bush-speech-<wbr>911.MP3</a><br /><<a href="http://www.apfn.net/pogo/L001I060907-bush-speech-911.MP3">http://www.apfn.<wbr>net/pogo/<wbr>L001I060907-<wbr>bush-speech-<wbr>911.MP3</a>><br /><br />------------<wbr>---------<br />9/11: 5 years later<br />Only the deluded or the paid-off still believe amateur Arab<br />pilots did it<br /><a href="http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=104298">http://disc.<wbr>server.com/<wbr>discussion.<wbr>cgi?id=149495;<wbr>article=104298</a><br /><<a href="http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=104298">http://disc.<wbr>server.com/<wbr>discussion.<wbr>cgi?id=149495;<wbr>article=104298</a>><br /><br />============<wbr>======<br /># 9/11 FIVE YEARS LATER - "PROOF "THEY KNOW" — APFN, Wed<br />Sep 6 16:01<br /><a href="http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=104294;title=APFN">http://disc.<wbr>server.com/<wbr>discussion.<wbr>cgi?disc=<wbr>149495;article=<wbr>104294;title=APFN</a><br /><<a href="http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=104294;title=APFN">http://disc.<wbr>server.com/<wbr>discussion.<wbr>cgi?disc=<wbr>149495;article=<wbr>104294;title=APFN</a>><br /><br />============<wbr>======<br /><br />The Incredible 9-11 Evidence<br />We've All been Overlooking<br />by Leonard Spencer<br /><a href="http://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa11.html">http://www.serendip<wbr>ity.li/wot/<wbr>aa11.html</a><br /><<a href="http://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa11.html">http://www.serendip<wbr>ity.li/wot/<wbr>aa11.html</a>><br /><br />============<wbr>======<br /><br />Bush recalls Atlanta bombing in terrorism speech<br />Access North Georgia, GA - 3 hours ago<br />... Centre in Smyrna. Bush's speech was one in a series he is<br />giving in advance of the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.<br />Bush was ...<br />GOOGLE: BUSH'S SPEECH<br /><<a href="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=Bush+Speech&btnG=Search+News">http://news.<wbr>google.com/<wbr>news?hl=en&<wbr>ned=us&q=<wbr>Bush+Speech&<wbr>btnG=Search+News</a>><br /><br /><br />Bush acknowledges existence of CIA prisons<br /><br />Updated Thu. Sep. 7 2006 11:33 AM ET<br /><br />CTV.ca News Staff<br /><br />U.S. President George Bush has confirmed terrorist suspects were<br />held in secret CIA prisons outside the country, but argued the<br />program kept America safe from potential attacks.<br /><br />"This program has helped us to take potential mass murderers off<br />the streets before they were able to kill," said Bush.<br /><br />Among the detainees were alleged Sept. 11, 2001 masterminds<br />Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Ramzi Binalshibh. Along with 12 other<br />suspected terrorist leaders, they were transported to windowless<br />cells at Guantanamo Bay.<br /><br />Bush said he plans to have the men face military tribunals,<br />despite the Supreme Court outlawing the practice in June --<br />Justice John Paul Stevens ruled the trials violated both U.S. law<br />and the Geneva Convention.<br /><br />If the U.S. Congress supports Bush's proposal, the military will<br />file charges against about 75 of the suspects, according to The<br />Associated Press.<br /><br />Some could face the death penalty, including Mohammed.<br /><br />"Obviously, someone of (Khalid Sheik Mohammed's) magnitude it<br />would be reasonable to expected would be subject to the death<br />penalty," Guantanamo's chief prosecutor, Air Force Air Force Col.<br />Morris Davis, told AP.<br /><br />Congress has been asked to approve the military tribunals within<br />the next few weeks. The acknowledgement of the secret prisons<br />comes just two months before crucial congressional elections, and<br />could make security a defining issue in the next election.<br /><br />"These dramatic revelations have so far framed the election<br />issues and debate -- one that Republicans think plays to their<br />strength, saying in effect: look what we've done so far, you<br />might want to keep us around," reported CTV's Washington Bureau<br />Chief Tom Clark.<br /><br />The detainees are now being held in Guantanamo's Camp 5, created<br />for suspects accused of the most severe offences or those who<br />likely have valuable information.<br /><br />Camp 5 detainees are reportedly allowed just one hour of outside<br />exercise per day, and receive food through a narrow slot in their<br />cell doors.<br /><br />But they also have access to the Red Cross and defence lawyers.<br /><br />Bush said the suspects were interrogated while in the secret CIA<br />prisons, and helped intelligence officials determine the<br />structure of al Qaeda, details about specific plots.<br /><br />He said the interrogations were lawful but "tough," although he<br />didn't offer any exact details.<br /><br />"These are dangerous men with unparalleled knowledge about<br />terrorist networks and their plans for new attacks," said Bush.<br />"The security of our nation and the lives of our citizens depend<br />on our ability to learn what these terrorists know."<br /><br />With a report by CTV's Washington Bureau Chief Tom Clark and<br />files from The Associated Press<br /><<a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060906/gitmo_trials_060906/20060907?hub=World">http://www.ctv.<wbr>ca/servlet/<wbr>ArticleNews/<wbr>story/CTVNews/<wbr>20060906/<wbr>gitmo_trials_060906/<wbr>20060907?<wbr>hub=World</a>><br /><br />"PROOF "THEY KNOW".... HERE'S THE ALERT TO AIRLINES!<br /><<a href="http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc.htm">http://www.apfn.<wbr>org/apfn/<wbr>wtc.htm</a>><br /><br /><<a href="http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc.htm">http://www.apfn.<wbr>org/apfn/<wbr>wtc.htm</a>><br />CLICK: 9/11 FIVE YEARS LATER <<a href="http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc.htm">http://www.apfn.<wbr>org/apfn/<wbr>wtc.htm</a>><br /><br /><br /><br /><<a href="http://www.apfn.org/apfn/sitemap.htm">http://www.apfn.<wbr>org/apfn/<wbr>sitemap.htm</a>><br />AUDIO CLIP: The Good, The Bad And The Ugly<br /><<a href="http://www.apfn.net/pogo/L001I060819-good-bad-ugly.MP3">http://www.apfn.<wbr>net/pogo/<wbr>L001I060819-<wbr>good-bad-<wbr>ugly.MP3</a>> # # #<br /><br /><br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:apfn@apfn.org?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdDZpdmgwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5MgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27792">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27792;_ylc=X3oDMTM4bnBtODVqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5MgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3Nzky">Messages in this topic </a>(1) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>10. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27793;_ylc=X3oDMTJzNDdtbTlzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5MwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="10">Re: 9/11 Reminder </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Pay_the_Piper" <a href="mailto:pay_the_piper@shaw.ca?Subject=">mailto:pay_the_piper@shaw.ca?Subject=</a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 12:43 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content">Thank you for the reminder. What do you think of the reminder -<br /><br /><a href="http://www.geocities.com/torturers_and_terrorists_rule_us">http://www.geocitie<wbr>s.com/torturers_<wbr>and_terrorists_<wbr>rule_us</a> ?<br /><br />PtP<br /><br />----- Original Message -----<br />From: Ted Weiland<br />To: AAAWeiland<br />Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 11:13 AM<br />Subject: 9/11 Reminder<br /><br />Dear Brethren,<br /><br />I usually send out this reminder on the eve of the 9/11 anniversary; however, because I will be preaching in Vermont this coming week, I am sending it out now.<br /><br />As we reflect upon the worst terrorist attack ever to befall America, we would be well-advised to remind ourselves who the real players on that day really were − www.missiontoisrael<wbr>.org/ishmael,<wbr>edom,israel.<wbr>php. 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Weiland<br /><br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:pay_the_piper@shaw.ca?Subject=">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzNjRrYjJqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5MwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27793">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27793;_ylc=X3oDMTM4ZTkzdmllBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5MwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3Nzkz">Messages in this topic </a>(1) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>11. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27794;_ylc=X3oDMTJzY25jZXYwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="11">Fw: Iraq for Sale launch week </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Victor Forsythe" <a href="mailto:angelman24@sprintmail.com?Subject=Re:">mailto:angelman24@sprintmail.com?Subject=Re:</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/angelman48">angelman48 </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 12:45 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content"><br />----- Original Message -----<br />From: "Robert Greenwald" <<a href="mailto:info@bravenewfilms.org">info@bravenewfilms.<wbr>org</a>><br />To: <<a href="mailto:angelman24@sprintmail.com">angelman24@sprintma<wbr>il.com</a>><br />Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:45 PM<br />Subject: Iraq for Sale launch week<br /><br />> Dear Activists:<br />><br />> IRAQ FOR SALE has launched, and it's been a wild week!<br />><br />> We've had some terrific media coverage and early reviews, from ABC to<br />> AlterNet to AMERICAblog: <a href="http://iraqforsale.org/reviews.php">http://iraqforsale.<wbr>org/reviews.<wbr>php</a><br />><br />> This is a critically important first step to using the film to drive the<br />> issue of war profiteering into the pre-election debate, and of course,<br />> this unwanted publicity is making the war profiteers VERY UNHAPPY.<br />><br />> Already, CACI has ordered us to stop and KBR is attacking the film without<br />> having seen it. These corporations are taking a page out of Wal-Mart's<br />> playbook, and we know what a disaster those efforts to silence us were.<br />> <a href="http://iraqforsale.org/profiteers.php">http://iraqforsale.<wbr>org/profiteers.<wbr>php</a><br />><br />> Now is the time to turn the heat up. Get out there and spread the word,<br />> buy DVDs, plan screenings, and use the film to pressure elected officials<br />> to stop the profiteering. To help with your efforts, next week we'll be<br />> mailing out promotional gear (posters, stickers) to everyone who both<br />> signed up to host a screening on Brave New Theaters and bought a DVD. A<br />> lot of great stuff you can use.<br />><br />> Buy DVDs: <a href="http://iraqforsale.org/buy.php">http://iraqforsale.<wbr>org/buy.php</a><br />> Post your screening info: <a href="http://iraqforsale.org/screenings.php">http://iraqforsale.<wbr>org/screenings.<wbr>php</a><br />> Promotional materials: <a href="http://iraqforsale.org/promotional.php">http://iraqforsale.<wbr>org/promotional.<wbr>php</a><br />><br />> Everyone from the military to truck drivers are supporting patriotism over<br />> profit. Arianna Huffington called this a "bipartisan no-brainer". Let's<br />> show the war profiteers what real democracy is about!<br />><br />> See you at a screening,<br />> Robert Greenwald<br />><br />> P.S. We are posting extended bonus scenes on the website you can use to<br />> spread the word too. Check out this one on Blackwater, "America's private<br />> army": <a href="http://iraqforsale.org/video_blackwater.php">http://iraqforsale.<wbr>org/video_<wbr>blackwater.<wbr>php</a><br />><br />> ---<br />> You are receiving this because you purchased a DVD, attended a screening<br />> or otherwise signed up to receive it. You can unsubscribe here:<br />> <a href="http://bravenewfilms.org/unsubscribe.php.">http://bravenewfilm<wbr>s.org/unsubscrib<wbr>e.php.</a> Brave New Films can be reached<br />> at 10510 Culver Blvd., Culver City, CA 90232 and <a href="mailto:info@bravenewfilms.org">info@bravenewfilms.<wbr>org</a>.<br />> /*Your email ID. <diaEmailID=<wbr>'182664337' thread=2880/<wbr>>--*/<br /><br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:angelman24@sprintmail.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbnU5cjY0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27794">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27794;_ylc=X3oDMTM4c2thaHU3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3Nzk0">Messages in this topic </a>(1) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>12. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27795;_ylc=X3oDMTJzZGtjbDBtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5NQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="12">Clinton GOES BALLISTIC ON ABC ABOUT ITS DAMNING 9/11 MOVIE By IAN B </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "ranger116@webtv.net" <a href="mailto:ranger116@webtv.net?Subject=Re:">mailto:ranger116@webtv.net?Subject=Re:</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/ranger116_2000">ranger116_2000 </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 12:55 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content"><br />Clinton GOES BALLISTIC ON ABC ABOUT ITS DAMNING 9/11 MOVIE<br /><br />By IAN BISHOP Post Correspondent - New York Post Online Edition: News<br /><br />BUBBA GOES BALLISTIC ON ABC ABOUT ITS DAMNING 9/11 MOVIE<br /><br />��By IAN BISHOP Post Correspondent - New York Post Online Edition:<br />News<br /><br />Address:<a href="http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/bubba_goes_ballistic_on_abc_about_its_damning_9_11_movie_nationalnews_ian_bishop_________post_correspondent.htm">http://www.nypost.<wbr>com/news/<wbr>nationalnews/<wbr>bubba_goes_<wbr>ballistic_<wbr>on_abc_about_<wbr>its_damning_<wbr>9_11_movie_<wbr>nationalnews_<wbr>ian_bishop_<wbr>________post_<wbr>correspondent.<wbr>htm</a><br /><br />````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````<br />Clinton officials rip ABC's 'The Path to 9/11'<br /><br />WP: Clinton aides rip 9/11 film - washingtonpost.<wbr>com Highlights -<br /><br />MSNBC.com<br />Address:<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14707869/">http://www.msnbc.<wbr>msn.com/id/<wbr>14707869/</a><br /><br />Network calls miniseries 'a dramatization ... not a documentary'<br /><br />Peter Stranks / ABC via AP<br />��������������Actor Harvey Keitel�is seen<br />playing�counterterro<wbr>rism expert John O'Neill in "The Path to 9/11,"<br />the�ABC's five-hour miniseries about the events detailed in The 9/11<br />Commission Report and other sources.<br />����������������By By Howard Kurtz<br />Top officials of the Clinton administration have launched a preemptive<br />strike against an ABC-TV "docudrama," slated to air Sunday and Monday,<br />that they say includes made-up scenes depicting them as undermining<br />attempts to kill Osama bin Laden.<br />����������������Former secretary of<br />state Madeleine K. Albright called one scene involving her "false and<br />defamatory.<br />����������" Former national security adviser Samuel<br />R. "Sandy" Berger said the film "flagrantly misrepresents my personal<br />actions."<br />��������������And former White House aide<br />Bruce R. Lindsey, who now heads the William J. Clinton Foundation, said:<br />"It is unconscionable to mislead the American public about one of the<br />most horrendous tragedies our country has ever known."<br />�More politics news<br />ABC's entertainment division said the six-hour movie, "The Path to<br />9/11," will say in a disclaimer that it is a "dramatization . . . not a<br />documentary" and contains "fictionalized scenes." But the disclaimer<br />also says the movie is based on the Sept. 11 commission's report,<br />although that report contradicts several key scenes.<br />����������������Berger said in an<br />interview that ABC is "certainly trying to create the impression that<br />this is realistic, but it's a fabrication.<wbr>"<br />����������Marc Platt, the film's executive producer,<br />said that although it "does contain composite and conflated scenes and<br />representative characters and dialogue, we've worked very hard to be<br />fair. If individuals feel they're wrongly portrayed, that's obviously of<br />concern. We've portrayed the essence of the truth of these events. Our<br />intention was not in any way to be political or present a point of<br />view."<br />������������������The former Clinton<br />aides voiced their objections in letters to Robert A. Iger, chief<br />executive of ABC's corporate parent, the Walt Disney Co., but the<br />network refused to make changes or to give them advance copies of the<br />movie. They were not interviewed by ABC; it hired as a co-executive<br />producer Thomas H. Kean, the Republican who chaired the Sept. 11<br />commission, but no Democratic members of the panel.<br />��������������"In an undertaking this<br />gargantuan," Platt said, "it's impossible to interview every single<br />person available, and we didn't believe we needed to." He said that<br />"maybe I'm naive" in thinking that hiring only Kean would not prompt<br />criticism of a political slant. Clinton's legacy<br />����������������The fierceness of the<br />debate reflects a recognition that a $40 million miniseries -- whose<br />cast includes Harvey Keitel, Patricia Heaton and Penny Johnson Jerald --<br />can damage Clinton's legacy in the anti-terrorism fight on the fifth<br />anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks. Among the scenes that the Clinton<br />team said are fictional: Berger is seen as refusing authorization for a<br />proposed raid to capture bin Laden in spring 1998 to CIA operatives in<br />Afghanistan who have the terrorist leader in their sights. A CIA<br />operative sends a message: "We're ready to load the package.<br />��������������Repeat, do we have clearance<br />to load the package?" Berger responds: "I don't have that authority."<br />��������Berger said that neither he nor Clinton ever<br />rejected a CIA or military request to conduct an operation against bin<br />Laden. � � � The Sept. 11 commission said no CIA operatives were<br />poised to attack; that Afghanistan'<wbr>s rebel Northern Alliance was not<br />involved, as the film says; and that then-CIA Director George J. Tenet<br />decided the plan would not work.<br />Tenet is depicted as challenging Albright for having alerted Pakistan in<br />advance of the August 1998 missile strike that unsuccessfully targeted<br />bin Laden.<br />����������"Madame Secretary," Tenet is seen saying,<br />"the Pakistani security service, the ISI, has close ties with the<br />Taliban." Albright is seen shouting: "We had to inform the Pakistanis.<br />There are regional factors involved." Tenet then complains that "we've<br />enhanced bin Laden's stature."<br />�<br />CLICK FOR RELATED CONTENT<br />Vote: Is ABC misleading the public?<br />Full coverage of 9/11: Five Years Later<br />Commentary: 'Path to 9/11' tells a sad, riveting tale<br />Albright said she never warned Pakistan. The Sept. 11 commission found<br />that a senior U.S. military official warned Pakistan that missiles<br />crossing its airspace would not be from its archenemy, India. "The Path<br />to 9/11" uses news footage to suggest that Clinton was distracted by the<br />Republican drive to impeach him. Veteran White House counterterrorism<br />official Richard A. Clarke, who also disputes the film's accuracy, is<br />portrayed as telling FBI agent John P. O'Neill: "Republicans went all<br />out for impeachment. I just don't see the president in this climate<br />willing to take chances." O'Neill responds: "So it's okay if somebody<br />kills bin Laden, so long as he didn't give the order. . . . It's<br />pathetic." The Sept. 11 commission found no evidence that the Monica S.<br />Lewinsky scandal played a role in the August 1998 missile strike, but<br />added that the "intense partisanship of the period" was one factor that<br />"likely had a cumulative effect on future decisions about the use of<br />force against bin Laden." HOW 9/11 CHANGED USIn their own words - as<br />well as audio and photos - Americans tell, for better and for worse, how<br />the September 11 attacks transformed their lives.<br />�WP:�Ex-Clinton aides rip ABC's 9/11 film�9/11 mystery: Where was<br />Atta on 9/10?�Video: Cantor�CEO tells of loss, recovery�Know 9/11?<br />Take our super-tough quiz�Most�WTC rescuers suffering health<br />issuesClinton allies have complained that advance copies were sent to a<br />number of conservative commentators, including Rush Limbaugh, but not to<br />liberals. Limbaugh, saying that the screenwriter, Cyrus Nowrasteh, is a<br />friend of his, told his radio audience that the film "indicts the<br />Clinton administration, Madeleine Albright, Sandy Berger. It is just<br />devastating to the Clinton administration. It talks about how we had<br />chances to capture bin Laden in specific detail." ABC said copies of the<br />film were sent to media organizations and commentators without regard to<br />ideology, and that Democrats and Republicans were invited to a screening<br />in Washington. At the screening, Richard Ben-Veniste, a Democratic<br />member of the Sept. 11 commission, assailed the film as inaccurate.<br />Letters of protest<br />Nowrasteh, who has described himself as a conservative, told Frontpage<br />magazine that the movie illustrates "the frequent opportunities the<br />administration had in the '90s to stop bin Laden in his tracks -- but<br />lacked the will to do so."<br />Nowrasteh drew criticism from Reagan administration officials for his<br />Showtime movie "The Day Reagan Was Shot." He told the Los Angeles Daily<br />News then that he "made a conscious effort not to contact any members of<br />the [Reagan] administration because I didn't want them to stymie my<br />efforts."<br />The assault on "The Path to 9/11" assumed the trappings of a campaign<br />yesterday. Four senior House Democrats -- John Conyers Jr., Jane Harman,<br />John D. Dingell and Louise M. Slaughter -- have written Iger to demand<br />that the inaccuracies be corrected. Spurred by the Center for American<br />Progress, which is headed by Clinton chief of staff John D. Podesta,<br />25,000 people have sent letters of protest to ABC. � 2006 The<br />Washington Post Company<br />��Print this Email this<br />�MORE FROM WASHINGTONPOST.<wbr>COM HIGHLIGHTS Dunkin' Donuts challenges<br />Starbucks<br />. Bush catches critics off guard. Clinton officials rip 'Path to 9/11'.<br />Dunkin' Donuts challenges Starbucks. Facebook's new feature backfires.<br />Attacks increase in Darfur. 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Candidate U.S. Representative from Florida<br /><br />" Dr Bob Bowman swept the Fl. Primary Elections to a Big Win ! 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Members of Congress (05-35023 U.S. 9th Circuit Court of<br />Appeals) is now on appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.<br />the current page<br />Address:<a href="http://cc2.org/">http://cc2.org/</a><br />�<br />Under the authority of Article V of the U.S. Constitution, the<br />convention clause is peremptory, Congress must call a convention once<br />the requisite applications are received. The convention call is based on<br />a simple numeric count of state applications, arguments otherwise are<br />invalid based on the Constitution itself, and all founding documents<br />related to the matter.<br />�<br />Members of Congress are failing to carry out their constitutional<br />obligation and issue the call to the states and are currently in<br />violation of federal criminal law. Congress cannot veto the calling of a<br />national convention.<br />�<br />Please contact your representatives in�Congress and�let�them know<br />you expect them to follow the law as written in the U.S. Constitution,<br />and that they now go on record as being in favor of a national<br />convention or resign their office.<br />�<br />Documentary:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7qIQ1VkEg&search=walker%20%2Bcc2">http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch?<wbr>v=fs7qIQ1VkEg&<wbr>search=walker%<wbr>20%2Bcc2</a> �<br />All court documents can be found here: <a href="http://www.article5.org">http://www.article5<wbr>.org</a> �<br /><br />A court brief detailing the issue is here:<br /><a href="http://www.article5.org/Webbrief.pdf">http://www.article5<wbr>.org/Webbrief.<wbr>pdf</a><br />Who We Are Logos More Info<br />Included Page: <a href="http://cc2.org/">http://cc2.org/</a><br /><br />````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````<br />Coming Close to a Break Through on 9/11 !<br />Address:<a href="http://oldranger-worthamention.blogspot.com/2006/09/coming-close-to-breakthrough-on-911.html">http://oldranger-<wbr>worthamention.<wbr>blogspot.<wbr>com/2006/<wbr>09/coming-<wbr>close-to-<wbr>breakthrough-<wbr>on-911.html</a><br />Included Page:<br /><a href="http://oldranger-worthamention.blogspot.com/2006/09/coming-close-to-breakthrough-on-911.html">http://oldranger-<wbr>worthamention.<wbr>blogspot.<wbr>com/2006/<wbr>09/coming-<wbr>close-to-<wbr>breakthrough-<wbr>on-911.html</a><br /><br />````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````<br /><br />From: <a href="mailto:edward19@cox.net">edward19@cox.<wbr>net</a>(Ed�Ward,�MD)<br /><br />The 707-WTC Impact Study, Molten Metal Info and More<br />Profile: Leslie Robertson<br /><br />Positions that Leslie Robertson has held:<br />Leslie Robertson actively participated in the following events:<br />(Between Early 1984 and October 1985): Office of Special Planning<br />Studies Vulnerability of WTC to Terrorist Attack<br /><br /><a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=1521846767-3087">http://www.cooperat<wbr>iveresearch.<wbr>org/entity.<wbr>jsp?id=152184676<wbr>7-3087</a><br /><br />Excellent links in this information<br />The Office of Special Planning (OSP), a unit set up by the New York Port<br />Authority to assess the security of its facilities against terrorist<br />attacks (see Early 1984), spends four to six months studying the World<br />Trade Center. It examines the center's design through looking at<br />photographs, blueprints, and plans. It brings in experts such as the<br />builders of the center, plus experts in sabotage and explosives, and has<br />them walk through the WTC to identify any areas of vulnerability.<br />According to New York Times reporters James Glanz and Eric Lipton, when<br />Edward O'Sullivan, head of the OSP, looks at WTC security, he finds "one<br />vulnerability after another. Explosive charges could be placed at key<br />locations in the power system. Chemical or biological agents could be<br />dropped into the coolant system. The Hudson River water intake could be<br />blown up. Someone might even try to infiltrate the large and vulnerable<br />subterranean realms of the World Trade Center site." In particular,<br />"There was no control at all over access to the underground,<br />two-thousand-<wbr>car parking garage." However, O'Sullivan consults "one of<br />the trade center's original structural engineers, Les Robertson, on<br />whether the towers would collapse because of a bomb or a collision with<br />a slow-moving airplane." He is told there is "little likelihood of a<br />collapse no matter how the building was attacked." [Glanz and Lipton,<br />2004, pp. 227; New York County Supreme Court, 1/20/2004] The OSP will<br />issue its report called "Counter-Terrorism Perspectives: The World Trade<br />Center" late in 1985 (see November 1985).<br />(Between Early 1984 and October 1985): Office of Special Planning<br />Studies Vulnerability of WTC to Terrorist Attack<br />The Office of Special Planning (OSP), a unit set up by the New York Port<br />Authority to assess the security of its facilities against terrorist<br />attacks (see Early 1984), spends four to six months studying the World<br />Trade Center. It examines the center's design through looking at<br />photographs, blueprints, and plans. It brings in experts such as the<br />builders of the center, plus experts in sabotage and explosives, and has<br />them walk through the WTC to identify any areas of vulnerability.<br />According to New York Times reporters James Glanz and Eric Lipton, when<br />Edward O'Sullivan, head of the OSP, looks at WTC security, he finds "one<br />vulnerability after another. Explosive charges could be placed at key<br />locations in the power system. Chemical or biological agents could be<br />dropped into the coolant system. The Hudson River water intake could be<br />blown up. Someone might even try to infiltrate the large and vulnerable<br />subterranean realms of the World Trade Center site." In particular,<br />"There was no control at all over access to the underground,<br />two-thousand-<wbr>car parking garage." However, O'Sullivan consults "one of<br />the trade center's original structural engineers, Les Robertson, on<br />whether the towers would collapse because of a bomb or a collision with<br />a slow-moving airplane." He is told there is "little likelihood of a<br />collapse no matter how the building was attacked." [Glanz and Lipton,<br />2004, pp. 227; New York County Supreme Court, 1/20/2004] The OSP will<br />issue its report called "Counter-Terrorism Perspectives: The World Trade<br />Center" late in 1985 (see November 1985).<br />Between September 3, 2001 and September 7, 2001: WTC Structural Engineer<br />Says Trade Center Designed for 707 Crashing Into It<br />Leslie Robertson, one of the two original structural engineers for the<br />World Trade Center, is asked at a conference in Frankfurt, Germany what<br />he had done to protect the twin towers from terrorist attacks. He<br />replies, "I designed it for a 707 to smash into it," though does not<br />elaborate further. [Chicago Tribune, 9/12/2001; Knight Ridder,<br />9/12/2001] The twin towers were in fact the first structures outside the<br />military and nuclear industries designed to resist the impact of a jet<br />airplane. [Robertson, 3/2002; Federal Emergency Management Agency,<br />5/1/2002, pp. 1-17] The Boeing 707 was the largest in use when the<br />towers were designed. Robertson conducted a study to calculate the<br />effect of a 707 weighing 263,000 pounds and traveling at 180 mph<br />crashing into one of the towers. He concluded that the tower would<br />remain standing. However, no official report of his study has ever<br />surfaced publicly. [Glanz and Lipton, 2004, pp. 138-139] A previous<br />analysis, carried out early in 1964, calculated that the towers would<br />handle the impact of a 707 traveling at 600 mph without collapsing (see<br />February 27, 1993). In 2002, though, Robertson will write, "To the best<br />of our knowledge, little was known about the effects of a fire from such<br />an aircraft, and no designs were prepared for that circumstance.<wbr>"<br />[Robertson, 3/2002] The planes that hit the WTC on 9/11 are 767s, which<br />are almost 20 percent heavier than 707s. [Scientific American,<br />10/9/2001; New Yorker, 11/19/2001]<br />September 12, 2001-February 2002: Witnesses See Molten Metal in the<br />Remains at Ground Zero<br />In the weeks and months after 9/11, numerous individuals report seeing<br />molten metal in the remains of the World Trade Center: Ken Holden, who<br />is involved with the organizing of demolition, excavation and debris<br />removal operations at Ground Zero, later will tell the 9/11 Commission,<br />"Underground, it was still so hot that molten metal dripped down the<br />sides of the wall from Building 6. William Langewiesche, the only<br />journalist to have unrestricted access to Ground Zero during the cleanup<br />operation, describes, "in the early days, the streams of molten metal<br />that leaked from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the<br />foundation hole." [Langewiesche, 2002, pp. 32]<br />[9/11 Commission, 4/1/2003] Leslie Robertson, the structural engineer<br />responsible for the design of the WTC, describes fires still burning and<br />molten steel still running 21 days after the attacks. [<br />But Dr. Frank Gayle, who leads the steel forensics aspects of NIST's<br />investigation of the WTC collapses, is quoted as saying, "Your gut<br />reaction would be the jet fuel is what made the fire so very intense, a<br />lot of people figured that's what melted the steel. Indeed it didn't,<br />the steel did not melt." [ABC News 7 (New York), 2/7/2004] As well as<br />the reports of molten metal, data collected by NASA in the days after<br />9/11 finds dozens of "hot spots" (some over 1300 degrees) at Ground Zero<br />(see September 16-23, 2001).<br />Alison Geyh, who heads a team of scientists studying the potential<br />health effects of 9/11, reports, "Fires are still actively burning and<br />the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are<br />finding molten steel." [Johns Hopkins Public Health Magazi<br />Ron Burger, a public health advisor who arrives at Ground Zero on<br />September 12, says that "feeling the heat" and "seeing the molten steel"<br />there reminds him of a volcano.<br />New York firefighters recall "heat so intense they encountered rivers of<br />molten steel." [New York Post, 3/3/2004]<br />As late as five months after the attacks, in February 2002, firefighter<br />Joe O'Toole sees a steel beam being lifted from deep underground at<br />Ground Zero, which, he says, "was dripping from the molten steel."<br />[Knight Ridder, 5/29/2002] Steven E. Jones, a physics professor from<br />Utah, later will claim this molten metal is "direct evidence for the use<br />of high-temperature explosives, such as thermite," used to deliberately<br />bring down the WTC towers. [MSNBC, 11/16/2005] He will say that without<br />explosives, a falling building would have "insufficient directed energy<br />to result in melting of large quantities of metal." [Deseret Morning<br />News,<br />There is no mention whatsoever of the molten metal in the official<br />reports by FEMA, NIST, or the 9/11 Commission. [Federal Emergency<br />Management Agency, 5/1/2002; 9/11 Commission, But Dr. Frank Gayle, who<br />leads the steel forensics aspects of NIST's investigation of the WTC<br />collapses, is quoted as saying, "Your gut reaction would be the jet fuel<br />is what made the fire so very intense, a lot of people figured that's<br />what melted the steel. Indeed it didn't, the steel did not melt." [ABC<br />News 7 (New York), 2/7/2004] As well as the reports of molten metal,<br />data collected by NASA in the days after 9/11 finds dozens of "hot<br />spots" (some over 1300 degrees) at Ground Zero (see September 16-23,<br />2001).<br /><a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=1521846767-3087">http://www.cooperat<wbr>iveresearch.<wbr>org/entity.<wbr>jsp?id=152184676<wbr>7-3087</a><br />Aron Russo's "America from Freedom to Fascism" is now available on<br />bittorrent: "The Movie That Will Cause the Declaration of World-Wide<br />Martial Law". One way or the other, the movie of Your Life.<br /><a href="http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3519240">http://thepiratebay<wbr>.org/tor/<wbr>3519240</a><br />Dei Jurum Conventus<br />Ed Ward, MD; <a href="http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/arc_ward.htm">http://www.theprice<wbr>ofliberty.<wbr>org/arc_ward.<wbr>htm</a><br />Independent writer/Media Liaison for The Price of Liberty;<br /><a href="http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/">http://www.theprice<wbr>ofliberty.<wbr>org/</a><br />THE WTC WAS DESIGNED TO SURVIVE THE IMPACT OF A BOEING 767, SO WHY<br />DIDN'T IT?<br />by MAD MAX Saturday, Jul. 19, 2003 at 11:37 AM Fact. The twin towers<br />were designed to withstand a collision with a Boeing<br />707.<br /><a href="http://hawaii.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/3257_comment.php">http://hawaii.<wbr>indymedia.<wbr>org/news/<wbr>2003/07/3257_<wbr>comment.php</a><br />In the early 1970's the World Trade Center's chief structural engineer,<br />Leslie Robertson, calculated the effect of the impact of a Boeing 707<br />with the World Trade Center towers. His results were reported in the New<br />York Times where it was claimed that Robertson's study proved the towers<br />would withstand the impact of a Boeing 707 moving at 600 miles an hour.<br />Little did he know that decades later two aircraft, almost identical to<br />the Boeing 707, would impact the towers.<br />Other engineers are on public record as saying that the World Trade<br />Center would even survive an impact of the larger and faster Boeing 747.<br />The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 707-320B is 336,000 pounds. The<br />maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 767-200ER is 395,000 pounds.<br />The wingspan of a Boeing 707 is 146 feet. The wingspan of a Boeing 767<br />is 156 feet.<br />The length of a Boeing 707 is 153 feet.<br />The length of a Boeing 767 is 159 feet.<br />The Boeing 707 could carry 23,000 gallons of fuel. The Boeing 767 could<br />carry 23,980 gallons of fuel.<br />However, the actual aircraft involved in the World Trade Center impacts<br />were only flying from Boston to Los Angeles, and consequently, would<br />have been nowhere near fully fueled on takeoff (the Boeing 767 has a<br />maximum range of 7,600 miles (12,220 km)). The aircraft would have<br />carried just enough fuel for the trip together with some safety factor.<br />Remember, that carrying excess fuel means higher fuel bills and less<br />paying passengers. The aircraft would have also burnt some fuel between<br />Boston and New York.<br />Government sources estimate that each of the Boeing 767's had<br />approximately 10,000 gallons of unused fuel on board at the times of<br />impact.<br />To give you some idea how much jet fuel this is, an 11 foot by 11 foot<br />by 11 foot tank contains 10,000 gallons (1 US gallon = 0.13368 cubic<br />feet). So a novel way of destroying high-rise buildings is to load an 11<br />foot by 11 foot by 11 foot glass tank of jet fuel into a Ryder truck,<br />drive it into the ground floor lobby, break the glass, set light to the<br />fuel and walk away, the high-rise should collapse in about an hour<br />(after all, 12,000 gallons of diesel was all it took to bring down WTC<br />7). Look mom, no explosives needed.<br />Since, the Boeing 767 is much more fuel-efficient than the 707, a Boeing<br />707 traveling the same route would carry significantly more fuel and<br />would therefore be a much greater danger from the perspective of a jet<br />fuel fire.<br />Thus the quantity of fuel that burnt on September 11 would have been<br />envisaged by those who designed the towers. In fact, the towers were<br />designed to survive much more serious fires than those of September 11.<br />Over the years, a number of other high-rise buildings have suffered<br />significantly more serious fires, but none have collapsed (not one).<br />Before September 11, no steel framed skyscraper had ever collapsed due<br />to fire. However, on September 11, it is claimed that three steel framed<br />skyscrapers collapsed mainly, or totally, due to fire.<br />See this article for proof that the jet fuel fires can be ruled out as<br />the cause of the World Trade Center collapses.<br />The cruise speed of a Boeing 707 is 607 mph = 890 ft/s, The cruise speed<br />of a Boeing 767 is 530 mph = 777 ft/s.<br />So, the Boeing 707 and 767 are very similar aircraft, with the main<br />differences being that the 767 is slightly heavier and more<br />fuel-efficient, and the 707 is faster.<br />The thrust to weight ratio for a Boeing 707 is 4 x 18,000/336,000 =<br />0.214286.<br />The thrust to weight ratio for a Boeing 767 is 2 x 31,500/395,000 =<br />0.159494.<br />Since the Boeing 707 had a higher thrust to weight ratio, it would be<br />traveling faster on take-off and on landing.<br />And, since the Boeing 707 would have started from a faster cruise speed,<br />it would be traveling faster in a dive. So in all the likely variations<br />of an accidental impact with the WTC, the Boeing 707 would be traveling<br />faster. In terms of impact damage, this higher speed would more than<br />compensate for the slightly lower weight of the Boeing 707.<br />To illustrate this point we calculate the energy that the planes would<br />impart to the towers in any accidental collision at their cruise speed.<br />The kinetic energy released by the impact of a Boeing 707 at cruise<br />speed is<br />= 0.5 x 336,000 x (890)2/32.174<br />= 4.136 billion ft lbs force (5,607,720 Kilojoules).<br />The kinetic energy released by the impact of a Boeing 767 at cruise<br />speed is<br />= 0.5 x 395,000 x (777)2/32.174<br />= 3.706 billion ft lbs force (5,024,650 Kilojoules).<br />From this, we see that at cruise speed, a Boeing 707 would smash into<br />the WTC with about 10 percent more energy than would the slightly<br />heavier Boeing<br />767. That is, under normal flying conditions, a Boeing 707 would do more<br />damage than a Boeing 767.<br />In conclusion we can say that if the towers were designed to survive the<br />impact of a Boeing 707, then they were necessarily designed to survive<br />the impact of a Boeing 767.<br />So what can be said about the actual impacts?<br />The speed of impact of AA Flight 11 has been estimated to be 470 mph =<br />689 ft/s.<br />The speed of impact of UA Flight 175 has been estimated to be 590 mph =<br />865 ft/s.<br />The kinetic energy released by the impact of AA Flight 11 was<br />= 0.5 x 395,000 x (689)2/32.174<br />= 2.914 billion ft lbs force (3,950,950 Kilojoules).<br />This is well within limits that the towers were built to survive. So why<br />did the North tower fall?<br />The kinetic energy released by the impact of UA Flight 175 was<br />= 0.5 x 395,000 x (865)2/32.174<br />= 4.593 billion ft lbs force (6,227,270 Kilojoules).<br />This is within 10 percent of the energy released by the impact of a<br />Boeing 707 at cruise speed. So, it is also a surprise that the 767<br />impact caused the South tower to fall.<br />Note that the speed of a projectile determines whether the impact damage<br />is localized or spread across a large area. The faster the projectile,<br />the more localized the damage. Common examples illustrating this effect<br />are, the driving of a nail through a piece of wood, and the firing a<br />bullet through a fencepost. Both are done at speed and thus do only<br />local damage. In both of these examples, the wood just a centimeter or<br />two from the impact point, is essentially undamaged. Similarly, the<br />aircraft impacts were at great speed and the damage localized. This<br />effect is<br />illustrated in the above graphic from the simulation of the crash of a<br />Boeing 747 (maximum takeoff weight 875,000 lb, unloaded weight 670,200<br />lb, fuel capacity 57,285 gallons) with a steel framed building.<br />We are told that the "hijackers" wanted to cause maximum death and<br />destruction, then why didn't they hijack Boeing 747s? Boeing 747s weigh<br />more than twice as much, they can carry more than twice the fuel and<br />travel faster than the Boeing 767. Consequently, Boeing 747s would have<br />caused much more death and destruction than the 767s.<br />Also, why did the hijackers choose to hijack aircraft leaving Boston,<br />when they could have just as easily hijacked aircraft from one of the<br />New York city airports (LaGuardia, Newark or JFK). Hijacking aircraft<br />from Boston, meant that they had to deviate from their designated<br />routes, while still a long way from Manhattan. Of course, as is usual,<br />all sorts of alarm bells would be set off as soon as the aircraft<br />deviated substantially from their prescribed routes. Not only that, the<br />US Air Force specialist quick response unit, the Air National Guard,<br />would almost certainly intercept them before they reached their target<br />(and would have assuredly shoot down the second 767, after seeing what<br />happened to the first).<br />It is often claimed that the WTC was designed only to withstand the<br />collision of a Boeing 707 that was seeking to land at one of the nearby<br />airports, and that since such aircraft would be low on fuel, only small<br />jet fuel fires were envisaged. However, this is an obvious lie. Why is<br />it an obvious lie? Well, because if you take into consideration planes<br />that are landing at an airport, then you must consider planes that are<br />taking off, and such planes are potentially fully laden with fuel.<br />Since the WTC towers were designed to handle extreme wind loading (140<br />mph hurricane force winds) they would survive the impact of a Boeing 707<br />(even one that was traveling at full speed) without adding any extra<br />features to the design (above those already necessary to handle the wind<br />loading). All that the designers would have to consider, is effect of a<br />jet fuel fire from a fully fueled jet that crashed into one of the<br />towers shortly after taking off from one of the local airports.<br />Overall, it comes as a great surprise that the impact of a Boeing 767<br />bought down either tower. Indeed, many experts are on record as saying<br />that the towers would survive the impact of the much larger and faster<br />Boeing 747. In this regard, see professor Astaneh-Asl'<wbr>s simulation of<br />the crash of the much, much larger and heavier Boeing 747 with the World<br />Trade Center. Professor Astaneh-Asl teaches at the University of<br />California, Berkeley.<br /><a href="http://hawaii.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/3257_comment.php">http://hawaii.<wbr>indymedia.<wbr>org/news/<wbr>2003/07/3257_<wbr>comment.php</a><br />Dei Jurum Conventus<br />Ed Ward, MD; <a href="http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/arc_ward.htm">http://www.theprice<wbr>ofliberty.<wbr>org/arc_ward.<wbr>htm</a><br />Independent writer/Media Liaison for The Price of Liberty;<br /><a href="http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/">http://www.theprice<wbr>ofliberty.<wbr>org/</a><br /><br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:ranger116@webtv.net?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzN2xvODBqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5NgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27796">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27796;_ylc=X3oDMTM4OTNhYXUzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5NgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3Nzk2">Messages in this topic </a>(2) </div></dd><dt>13b. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27798;_ylc=X3oDMTJzc2w4aHA2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5OARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="13b">Re: 9/11Truth Seeker from C-Span Hearing USRepCandidate Wins </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Total Information" <a href="mailto:totalinfo@gmail.com?Subject=">mailto:totalinfo@gmail.com?Subject=</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/totalinfolthink">totalinfolthink </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 2:10 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content">It might be a good idea to call in to C-Span Washington Journal and ask them<br />to have Bowman on as a guest. On Friday mornings, brian lamb, head of<br />c-span, hosts.<br /><br />On 9/7/06, <a href="mailto:ranger116@webtv.net">ranger116@webtv.<wbr>net</a> <<a href="mailto:ranger116@webtv.net">ranger116@webtv.<wbr>net</a>> wrote:<br />><br />> 9/11Truth Seeker from C-Span Hearing USRepCandidate Wins Fl.Primary++<br />><br />> Dr. Bob Bowman for Congress Lt Col ret. 9/11 Truth Researcher seen in<br />> the C-Span 9/11 hearings.<br />><br />> Dem. Candidate U.S. Representative from Florida<br />><br />> " Dr Bob Bowman swept the Fl. Primary Elections to a Big Win ! "<br />><br />> Address:<a href="http://bowman2006.com/">http://bowman2006.<wbr>com/</a><br />> Included Page: Bowman for Congress<br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>``````<br />> Clinton Administration Officials Assail ABC's 'The Path to 9/11'<br />><br />> Address:<br />> <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/06/AR2006090601819_pf.html">http://www.washingt<wbr>onpost.com/<wbr>wp-dyn/content/<wbr>article/2006/<wbr>09/06/AR20060906<wbr>01819_pf.<wbr>html</a><br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>``<br />> Ohio voting investigator Attorney Jailed Again Without Charges<br />><br />> Ohio Attorney Jailed Again Without Charges<br />> Address:<a href="http://www.rense.com/general73/ohio.htm">http://www.rense.<wbr>com/general73/<wbr>ohio.htm</a><br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>```<br />> Is This Bush's Secret Bunker ?<br />><br />> Address:<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1859632,00.html">http://www.guardian<wbr>.co.uk/g2/<wbr>story/0,,<wbr>1859632,00.<wbr>html</a><br />> Included Page: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1859632,00.html">http://www.guardian<wbr>.co.uk/g2/<wbr>story/0,,<wbr>1859632,00.<wbr>html</a><br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>````<br />> The 9/11 Commission: A Play on Nothing in Three Acts<br />><br />> Address:<a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0905-25.htm">http://www.commondr<wbr>eams.org/<wbr>views06/0905-<wbr>25.htm</a><br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>````<br />> Iran Focus-Iran says U.S., Israel ordered September 11 attacks - Special<br />> Wire - News<br />> Address:<a href="http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=8512">http://www.iranfocu<wbr>s.com/modules/<wbr>news/article.<wbr>php?storyid=<wbr>8512</a><br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>```<br />> Time Magazine Cover Story -- Why the 9/11 Conspiracies Won't Go AWAY ?<br />> !!<br />><br />> Address:<a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1531304-1,00.html">http://www.time.<wbr>com/time/<wbr>magazine/<wbr>article/0,<wbr>9171,1531304-<wbr>1,00.html</a><br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>``````<br />> The Incredible 9-11 Evidence We've All been Overlooking<br />><br />> Address:<a href="http://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa11.html">http://www.serendip<wbr>ity.li/wot/<wbr>aa11.html</a><br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````<br />> 'You're Despicable!'<br />> Address:<a href="http://www.rense.com/general73/descp.htm">http://www.rense.<wbr>com/general73/<wbr>descp.htm</a><br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````<br />> 911Truth.org ::::: The 9/11 Truth Movement<br />> Address:<a href="http://www.911truth.org/index.php">http://www.911truth<wbr>.org/index.<wbr>php</a><br />> Included Page: 911Truth.org ::::: The 9/11 Truth Movement<br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>``````<br />> The requisite state applications for an Article V Convention are<br />> registered in the Congressional Record.<br />><br />> Walker v. Members of Congress (05-35023 U.S. 9th Circuit Court of<br />> Appeals) is now on appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.<br />> the current page<br />> Address:<a href="http://cc2.org/">http://cc2.org/</a><br />><br />> Under the authority of Article V of the U.S. Constitution, the<br />> convention clause is peremptory, Congress must call a convention once<br />> the requisite applications are received. The convention call is based on<br />> a simple numeric count of state applications, arguments otherwise are<br />> invalid based on the Constitution itself, and all founding documents<br />> related to the matter.<br />><br />> Members of Congress are failing to carry out their constitutional<br />> obligation and issue the call to the states and are currently in<br />> violation of federal criminal law. Congress cannot veto the calling of a<br />> national convention.<br />><br />> Please contact your representatives in Congress and let them know<br />> you expect them to follow the law as written in the U.S. Constitution,<br />> and that they now go on record as being in favor of a national<br />> convention or resign their office.<br />><br />> Documentary:<br />> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7qIQ1VkEg&search=walker%20%2Bcc2">http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch?<wbr>v=fs7qIQ1VkEg&<wbr>search=walker%<wbr>20%2Bcc2</a><br />> All court documents can be found here: <a href="http://www.article5.org">http://www.article5<wbr>.org</a><br />><br />> A court brief detailing the issue is here:<br />> <a href="http://www.article5.org/Webbrief.pdf">http://www.article5<wbr>.org/Webbrief.<wbr>pdf</a><br />> Who We Are Logos More Info<br />> Included Page: <a href="http://cc2.org/">http://cc2.org/</a><br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````<br />> Coming Close to a Break Through on 9/11 !<br />> Address:<br />> <a href="http://oldranger-worthamention.blogspot.com/2006/09/coming-close-to-breakthrough-on-911.html">http://oldranger-<wbr>worthamention.<wbr>blogspot.<wbr>com/2006/<wbr>09/coming-<wbr>close-to-<wbr>breakthrough-<wbr>on-911.html</a><br />> Included Page:<br />><br />> <a href="http://oldranger-worthamention.blogspot.com/2006/09/coming-close-to-breakthrough-on-911.html">http://oldranger-<wbr>worthamention.<wbr>blogspot.<wbr>com/2006/<wbr>09/coming-<wbr>close-to-<wbr>breakthrough-<wbr>on-911.html</a><br />><br />> ````````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````````<wbr>`````<br />><br />> From: <a href="mailto:edward19@cox.net">edward19@cox.<wbr>net</a> <edward19%40cox.<wbr>net>(Ed Ward, MD)<br />><br />> The 707-WTC Impact Study, Molten Metal Info and More<br />> Profile: Leslie Robertson<br />><br />> Positions that Leslie Robertson has held:<br />> Leslie Robertson actively participated in the following events:<br />> (Between Early 1984 and October 1985): Office of Special Planning<br />> Studies Vulnerability of WTC to Terrorist Attack<br />><br />> <a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=1521846767-3087">http://www.cooperat<wbr>iveresearch.<wbr>org/entity.<wbr>jsp?id=152184676<wbr>7-3087</a><br />><br />> Excellent links in this information<br />> The Office of Special Planning (OSP), a unit set up by the New York Port<br />> Authority to assess the security of its facilities against terrorist<br />> attacks (see Early 1984), spends four to six months studying the World<br />> Trade Center. It examines the center's design through looking at<br />> photographs, blueprints, and plans. It brings in experts such as the<br />> builders of the center, plus experts in sabotage and explosives, and has<br />> them walk through the WTC to identify any areas of vulnerability.<br />> According to New York Times reporters James Glanz and Eric Lipton, when<br />> Edward O'Sullivan, head of the OSP, looks at WTC security, he finds "one<br />> vulnerability after another. Explosive charges could be placed at key<br />> locations in the power system. Chemical or biological agents could be<br />> dropped into the coolant system. The Hudson River water intake could be<br />> blown up. Someone might even try to infiltrate the large and vulnerable<br />> subterranean realms of the World Trade Center site." In particular,<br />> "There was no control at all over access to the underground,<br />> two-thousand-<wbr>car parking garage." However, O'Sullivan consults "one of<br />> the trade center's original structural engineers, Les Robertson, on<br />> whether the towers would collapse because of a bomb or a collision with<br />> a slow-moving airplane." He is told there is "little likelihood of a<br />> collapse no matter how the building was attacked." [Glanz and Lipton,<br />> 2004, pp. 227; New York County Supreme Court, 1/20/2004] The OSP will<br />> issue its report called "Counter-Terrorism Perspectives: The World Trade<br />> Center" late in 1985 (see November 1985).<br />> (Between Early 1984 and October 1985): Office of Special Planning<br />> Studies Vulnerability of WTC to Terrorist Attack<br />> The Office of Special Planning (OSP), a unit set up by the New York Port<br />> Authority to assess the security of its facilities against terrorist<br />> attacks (see Early 1984), spends four to six months studying the World<br />> Trade Center. It examines the center's design through looking at<br />> photographs, blueprints, and plans. It brings in experts such as the<br />> builders of the center, plus experts in sabotage and explosives, and has<br />> them walk through the WTC to identify any areas of vulnerability.<br />> According to New York Times reporters James Glanz and Eric Lipton, when<br />> Edward O'Sullivan, head of the OSP, looks at WTC security, he finds "one<br />> vulnerability after another. Explosive charges could be placed at key<br />> locations in the power system. Chemical or biological agents could be<br />> dropped into the coolant system. The Hudson River water intake could be<br />> blown up. Someone might even try to infiltrate the large and vulnerable<br />> subterranean realms of the World Trade Center site." In particular,<br />> "There was no control at all over access to the underground,<br />> two-thousand-<wbr>car parking garage." However, O'Sullivan consults "one of<br />> the trade center's original structural engineers, Les Robertson, on<br />> whether the towers would collapse because of a bomb or a collision with<br />> a slow-moving airplane." He is told there is "little likelihood of a<br />> collapse no matter how the building was attacked." [Glanz and Lipton,<br />> 2004, pp. 227; New York County Supreme Court, 1/20/2004] The OSP will<br />> issue its report called "Counter-Terrorism Perspectives: The World Trade<br />> Center" late in 1985 (see November 1985).<br />> Between September 3, 2001 and September 7, 2001: WTC Structural Engineer<br />> Says Trade Center Designed for 707 Crashing Into It<br />> Leslie Robertson, one of the two original structural engineers for the<br />> World Trade Center, is asked at a conference in Frankfurt, Germany what<br />> he had done to protect the twin towers from terrorist attacks. He<br />> replies, "I designed it for a 707 to smash into it," though does not<br />> elaborate further. [Chicago Tribune, 9/12/2001; Knight Ridder,<br />> 9/12/2001] The twin towers were in fact the first structures outside the<br />> military and nuclear industries designed to resist the impact of a jet<br />> airplane. [Robertson, 3/2002; Federal Emergency Management Agency,<br />> 5/1/2002, pp. 1-17] The Boeing 707 was the largest in use when the<br />> towers were designed. Robertson conducted a study to calculate the<br />> effect of a 707 weighing 263,000 pounds and traveling at 180 mph<br />> crashing into one of the towers. He concluded that the tower would<br />> remain standing. However, no official report of his study has ever<br />> surfaced publicly. [Glanz and Lipton, 2004, pp. 138-139] A previous<br />> analysis, carried out early in 1964, calculated that the towers would<br />> handle the impact of a 707 traveling at 600 mph without collapsing (see<br />> February 27, 1993). In 2002, though, Robertson will write, "To the best<br />> of our knowledge, little was known about the effects of a fire from such<br />> an aircraft, and no designs were prepared for that circumstance.<wbr>"<br />> [Robertson, 3/2002] The planes that hit the WTC on 9/11 are 767s, which<br />> are almost 20 percent heavier than 707s. [Scientific American,<br />> 10/9/2001; New Yorker, 11/19/2001]<br />> September 12, 2001-February 2002: Witnesses See Molten Metal in the<br />> Remains at Ground Zero<br />> In the weeks and months after 9/11, numerous individuals report seeing<br />> molten metal in the remains of the World Trade Center: Ken Holden, who<br />> is involved with the organizing of demolition, excavation and debris<br />> removal operations at Ground Zero, later will tell the 9/11 Commission,<br />> "Underground, it was still so hot that molten metal dripped down the<br />> sides of the wall from Building 6. William Langewiesche, the only<br />> journalist to have unrestricted access to Ground Zero during the cleanup<br />> operation, describes, "in the early days, the streams of molten metal<br />> that leaked from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the<br />> foundation hole." [Langewiesche, 2002, pp. 32]<br />> [9/11 Commission, 4/1/2003] Leslie Robertson, the structural engineer<br />> responsible for the design of the WTC, describes fires still burning and<br />> molten steel still running 21 days after the attacks. [<br />> But Dr. Frank Gayle, who leads the steel forensics aspects of NIST's<br />> investigation of the WTC collapses, is quoted as saying, "Your gut<br />> reaction would be the jet fuel is what made the fire so very intense, a<br />> lot of people figured that's what melted the steel. Indeed it didn't,<br />> the steel did not melt." [ABC News 7 (New York), 2/7/2004] As well as<br />> the reports of molten metal, data collected by NASA in the days after<br />> 9/11 finds dozens of "hot spots" (some over 1300 degrees) at Ground Zero<br />> (see September 16-23, 2001).<br />> Alison Geyh, who heads a team of scientists studying the potential<br />> health effects of 9/11, reports, "Fires are still actively burning and<br />> the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are<br />> finding molten steel." [Johns Hopkins Public Health Magazi<br />> Ron Burger, a public health advisor who arrives at Ground Zero on<br />> September 12, says that "feeling the heat" and "seeing the molten steel"<br />> there reminds him of a volcano.<br />> New York firefighters recall "heat so intense they encountered rivers of<br />> molten steel." [New York Post, 3/3/2004]<br />> As late as five months after the attacks, in February 2002, firefighter<br />> Joe O'Toole sees a steel beam being lifted from deep underground at<br />> Ground Zero, which, he says, "was dripping from the molten steel."<br />> [Knight Ridder, 5/29/2002] Steven E. Jones, a physics professor from<br />> Utah, later will claim this molten metal is "direct evidence for the use<br />> of high-temperature explosives, such as thermite," used to deliberately<br />> bring down the WTC towers. [MSNBC, 11/16/2005] He will say that without<br />> explosives, a falling building would have "insufficient directed energy<br />> to result in melting of large quantities of metal." [Deseret Morning<br />> News,<br />> There is no mention whatsoever of the molten metal in the official<br />> reports by FEMA, NIST, or the 9/11 Commission. [Federal Emergency<br />> Management Agency, 5/1/2002; 9/11 Commission, But Dr. Frank Gayle, who<br />> leads the steel forensics aspects of NIST's investigation of the WTC<br />> collapses, is quoted as saying, "Your gut reaction would be the jet fuel<br />> is what made the fire so very intense, a lot of people figured that's<br />> what melted the steel. Indeed it didn't, the steel did not melt." [ABC<br />> News 7 (New York), 2/7/2004] As well as the reports of molten metal,<br />> data collected by NASA in the days after 9/11 finds dozens of "hot<br />> spots" (some over 1300 degrees) at Ground Zero (see September 16-23,<br />> 2001).<br />> <a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=1521846767-3087">http://www.cooperat<wbr>iveresearch.<wbr>org/entity.<wbr>jsp?id=152184676<wbr>7-3087</a><br />> Aron Russo's "America from Freedom to Fascism" is now available on<br />> bittorrent: "The Movie That Will Cause the Declaration of World-Wide<br />> Martial Law". One way or the other, the movie of Your Life.<br />> <a href="http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3519240">http://thepiratebay<wbr>.org/tor/<wbr>3519240</a><br />> Dei Jurum Conventus<br />> Ed Ward, MD; <a href="http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/arc_ward.htm">http://www.theprice<wbr>ofliberty.<wbr>org/arc_ward.<wbr>htm</a><br />> Independent writer/Media Liaison for The Price of Liberty;<br />> <a href="http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/">http://www.theprice<wbr>ofliberty.<wbr>org/</a><br />> THE WTC WAS DESIGNED TO SURVIVE THE IMPACT OF A BOEING 767, SO WHY<br />> DIDN'T IT?<br />> by MAD MAX Saturday, Jul. 19, 2003 at 11:37 AM Fact. The twin towers<br />> were designed to withstand a collision with a Boeing<br />> 707.<br />> <a href="http://hawaii.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/3257_comment.php">http://hawaii.<wbr>indymedia.<wbr>org/news/<wbr>2003/07/3257_<wbr>comment.php</a><br />> In the early 1970's the World Trade Center's chief structural engineer,<br />> Leslie Robertson, calculated the effect of the impact of a Boeing 707<br />> with the World Trade Center towers. His results were reported in the New<br />> York Times where it was claimed that Robertson's study proved the towers<br />> would withstand the impact of a Boeing 707 moving at 600 miles an hour.<br />> Little did he know that decades later two aircraft, almost identical to<br />> the Boeing 707, would impact the towers.<br />> Other engineers are on public record as saying that the World Trade<br />> Center would even survive an impact of the larger and faster Boeing 747.<br />> The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 707-320B is 336,000 pounds. The<br />> maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 767-200ER is 395,000 pounds.<br />> The wingspan of a Boeing 707 is 146 feet. The wingspan of a Boeing 767<br />> is 156 feet.<br />> The length of a Boeing 707 is 153 feet.<br />> The length of a Boeing 767 is 159 feet.<br />> The Boeing 707 could carry 23,000 gallons of fuel. The Boeing 767 could<br />> carry 23,980 gallons of fuel.<br />> However, the actual aircraft involved in the World Trade Center impacts<br />> were only flying from Boston to Los Angeles, and consequently, would<br />> have been nowhere near fully fueled on takeoff (the Boeing 767 has a<br />> maximum range of 7,600 miles (12,220 km)). The aircraft would have<br />> carried just enough fuel for the trip together with some safety factor.<br />> Remember, that carrying excess fuel means higher fuel bills and less<br />> paying passengers. The aircraft would have also burnt some fuel between<br />> Boston and New York.<br />> Government sources estimate that each of the Boeing 767's had<br />> approximately 10,000 gallons of unused fuel on board at the times of<br />> impact.<br />> To give you some idea how much jet fuel this is, an 11 foot by 11 foot<br />> by 11 foot tank contains 10,000 gallons (1 US gallon = 0.13368 cubic<br />> feet). So a novel way of destroying high-rise buildings is to load an 11<br />> foot by 11 foot by 11 foot glass tank of jet fuel into a Ryder truck,<br />> drive it into the ground floor lobby, break the glass, set light to the<br />> fuel and walk away, the high-rise should collapse in about an hour<br />> (after all, 12,000 gallons of diesel was all it took to bring down WTC<br />> 7). Look mom, no explosives needed.<br />> Since, the Boeing 767 is much more fuel-efficient than the 707, a Boeing<br />> 707 traveling the same route would carry significantly more fuel and<br />> would therefore be a much greater danger from the perspective of a jet<br />> fuel fire.<br />> Thus the quantity of fuel that burnt on September 11 would have been<br />> envisaged by those who designed the towers. In fact, the towers were<br />> designed to survive much more serious fires than those of September 11.<br />> Over the years, a number of other high-rise buildings have suffered<br />> significantly more serious fires, but none have collapsed (not one).<br />> Before September 11, no steel framed skyscraper had ever collapsed due<br />> to fire. However, on September 11, it is claimed that three steel framed<br />> skyscrapers collapsed mainly, or totally, due to fire.<br />> See this article for proof that the jet fuel fires can be ruled out as<br />> the cause of the World Trade Center collapses.<br />> The cruise speed of a Boeing 707 is 607 mph = 890 ft/s, The cruise speed<br />> of a Boeing 767 is 530 mph = 777 ft/s.<br />> So, the Boeing 707 and 767 are very similar aircraft, with the main<br />> differences being that the 767 is slightly heavier and more<br />> fuel-efficient, and the 707 is faster.<br />> The thrust to weight ratio for a Boeing 707 is 4 x 18,000/336,000 =<br />> 0.214286.<br />> The thrust to weight ratio for a Boeing 767 is 2 x 31,500/395,000 =<br />> 0.159494.<br />> Since the Boeing 707 had a higher thrust to weight ratio, it would be<br />> traveling faster on take-off and on landing.<br />> And, since the Boeing 707 would have started from a faster cruise speed,<br />> it would be traveling faster in a dive. So in all the likely variations<br />> of an accidental impact with the WTC, the Boeing 707 would be traveling<br />> faster. In terms of impact damage, this higher speed would more than<br />> compensate for the slightly lower weight of the Boeing 707.<br />> To illustrate this point we calculate the energy that the planes would<br />> impart to the towers in any accidental collision at their cruise speed.<br />> The kinetic energy released by the impact of a Boeing 707 at cruise<br />> speed is<br />> = 0.5 x 336,000 x (890)2/32.174<br />> = 4.136 billion ft lbs force (5,607,720 Kilojoules).<br />> The kinetic energy released by the impact of a Boeing 767 at cruise<br />> speed is<br />> = 0.5 x 395,000 x (777)2/32.174<br />> = 3.706 billion ft lbs force (5,024,650 Kilojoules).<br />> From this, we see that at cruise speed, a Boeing 707 would smash into<br />> the WTC with about 10 percent more energy than would the slightly<br />> heavier Boeing<br />> 767. That is, under normal flying conditions, a Boeing 707 would do more<br />> damage than a Boeing 767.<br />> In conclusion we can say that if the towers were designed to survive the<br />> impact of a Boeing 707, then they were necessarily designed to survive<br />> the impact of a Boeing 767.<br />> So what can be said about the actual impacts?<br />> The speed of impact of AA Flight 11 has been estimated to be 470 mph =<br />> 689 ft/s.<br />> The speed of impact of UA Flight 175 has been estimated to be 590 mph =<br />> 865 ft/s.<br />> The kinetic energy released by the impact of AA Flight 11 was<br />> = 0.5 x 395,000 x (689)2/32.174<br />> = 2.914 billion ft lbs force (3,950,950 Kilojoules).<br />> This is well within limits that the towers were built to survive. So why<br />> did the North tower fall?<br />> The kinetic energy released by the impact of UA Flight 175 was<br />> = 0.5 x 395,000 x (865)2/32.174<br />> = 4.593 billion ft lbs force (6,227,270 Kilojoules).<br />> This is within 10 percent of the energy released by the impact of a<br />> Boeing 707 at cruise speed. So, it is also a surprise that the 767<br />> impact caused the South tower to fall.<br />> Note that the speed of a projectile determines whether the impact damage<br />> is localized or spread across a large area. The faster the projectile,<br />> the more localized the damage. Common examples illustrating this effect<br />> are, the driving of a nail through a piece of wood, and the firing a<br />> bullet through a fencepost. Both are done at speed and thus do only<br />> local damage. In both of these examples, the wood just a centimeter or<br />> two from the impact point, is essentially undamaged. Similarly, the<br />> aircraft impacts were at great speed and the damage localized. This<br />> effect is<br />> illustrated in the above graphic from the simulation of the crash of a<br />> Boeing 747 (maximum takeoff weight 875,000 lb, unloaded weight 670,200<br />> lb, fuel capacity 57,285 gallons) with a steel framed building.<br />> We are told that the "hijackers" wanted to cause maximum death and<br />> destruction, then why didn't they hijack Boeing 747s? Boeing 747s weigh<br />> more than twice as much, they can carry more than twice the fuel and<br />> travel faster than the Boeing 767. Consequently, Boeing 747s would have<br />> caused much more death and destruction than the 767s.<br />> Also, why did the hijackers choose to hijack aircraft leaving Boston,<br />> when they could have just as easily hijacked aircraft from one of the<br />> New York city airports (LaGuardia, Newark or JFK). Hijacking aircraft<br />> from Boston, meant that they had to deviate from their designated<br />> routes, while still a long way from Manhattan. Of course, as is usual,<br />> all sorts of alarm bells would be set off as soon as the aircraft<br />> deviated substantially from their prescribed routes. Not only that, the<br />> US Air Force specialist quick response unit, the Air National Guard,<br />> would almost certainly intercept them before they reached their target<br />> (and would have assuredly shoot down the second 767, after seeing what<br />> happened to the first).<br />> It is often claimed that the WTC was designed only to withstand the<br />> collision of a Boeing 707 that was seeking to land at one of the nearby<br />> airports, and that since such aircraft would be low on fuel, only small<br />> jet fuel fires were envisaged. However, this is an obvious lie. Why is<br />> it an obvious lie? Well, because if you take into consideration planes<br />> that are landing at an airport, then you must consider planes that are<br />> taking off, and such planes are potentially fully laden with fuel.<br />> Since the WTC towers were designed to handle extreme wind loading (140<br />> mph hurricane force winds) they would survive the impact of a Boeing 707<br />> (even one that was traveling at full speed) without adding any extra<br />> features to the design (above those already necessary to handle the wind<br />> loading). All that the designers would have to consider, is effect of a<br />> jet fuel fire from a fully fueled jet that crashed into one of the<br />> towers shortly after taking off from one of the local airports.<br />> Overall, it comes as a great surprise that the impact of a Boeing 767<br />> bought down either tower. Indeed, many experts are on record as saying<br />> that the towers would survive the impact of the much larger and faster<br />> Boeing 747. In this regard, see professor Astaneh-Asl'<wbr>s simulation of<br />> the crash of the much, much larger and heavier Boeing 747 with the World<br />> Trade Center. Professor Astaneh-Asl teaches at the University of<br />> California, Berkeley.<br />> <a href="http://hawaii.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/3257_comment.php">http://hawaii.<wbr>indymedia.<wbr>org/news/<wbr>2003/07/3257_<wbr>comment.php</a><br />> Dei Jurum Conventus<br />> Ed Ward, MD; <a href="http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/arc_ward.htm">http://www.theprice<wbr>ofliberty.<wbr>org/arc_ward.<wbr>htm</a><br />> Independent writer/Media Liaison for The Price of Liberty;<br />> <a href="http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/">http://www.theprice<wbr>ofliberty.<wbr>org/</a><br />><br />><br />><br /><br />--<br />www.total411.<wbr>info<br />www.total911.<wbr>info<br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:totalinfo@gmail.com?Subject=">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzaXJjcGNrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5OARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27798">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27796;_ylc=X3oDMTM4dXFzYWJtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5OARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3Nzk2">Messages in this topic </a>(2) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>14. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27797;_ylc=X3oDMTJzYTNoMjhxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5NwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="14">Smoking Gun: Bush STOLE Election 2004 </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Joanne Murphy" <a href="mailto:jgmurphyj@yahoo.com?Subject=Re:">mailto:jgmurphyj@yahoo.com?Subject=Re:</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/jgmurphyj">jgmurphyj </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 2:02 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content"><a href="http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/">http://www.waynemad<wbr>senreport.<wbr>com/</a><br /><br />Sept. 7, 2006 -- "Smoking gun" evidence uncovered in Ohio of massive vote fraud in 2004 election.<br />After the November 2004 presidential election, this editor reported on massive vote fraud, particularly in Ohio. The relevant articles are found here, here, here, and here. Sources within the U.S. Intelligence Community provided information on the financing -- via foreign funding sources, covert intelligence networks, and illegal pseudo-banking routes -- of programmers, election officials, and others to ensure that Bush and Cheney captured Ohio's critical 20 electoral votes.<br />Pursuant to a federal law that permits the destruction of ballots, including absentee ballots, 22 months after a federal election, ballots from the 2004 Ohio election were scheduled to be destroyed on Sept. 2, but the intervention of Columbus-based attorney Cliff Arnebeck and the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights with the U.S. Court in Columbus resulted in a protective order being issued for ballots and voting records in all 88 Ohio counties. This decision upset the corrupt Ohio Republican Party and its gubernatorial standard bearer Kenneth Blackwell, the Secretary of State who helped engineer the 2004 electoral vote fraud coup in his state, who wanted to begin the document shredding process in Sept. 2.<br />Not only can the ballots and voting records now be used in a major civil rights case against Blackwell, in which he is accused of "inequitably distributing voting resources, suppressing votes, and spoiling ballots" in the 2004 election, but may also serve as major evidence in impeachment hearings against George W. Bush and Dick Cheney when Michigan Rep. John Conyers becomes the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, if the Democrats, as expected, win control of the U.S. House of Representatives. Blackwell still clings to the fast-eroding stance that the 2004 Ohio vote was legitimate.<br />The reason the Ohio GOP was anxious to destroy the ballots and records is that they are rife with prima facie evidence of massive vote fraud. Dr. Richard Hayes Phillips, a researcher who uncovered the evidence of vote fraud, submitted an affidavit to the U.S. federal court in Columbus outlining details of the vote fraud. Along with the affidavit, Phillips provided evidence of vote fraud, including "documentation of ballot tampering in . . . eleven counties." The most startling evidence of ballot tampering is a punch card ballot that show tape affixed over votes for Kerry/Edwards. Other "stickered ballots" were apparently destroyed during an FBI investigation. The affidavit states:<br />"In Clermont County, eleven weeks of negotiations with the County Prosecutor�s office were required in order to gain access to the public records, and even then we were actively discouraged from completing our tasks in an expeditious manner. On each scheduled visit we were denied access to certain records and told to return another day. In the aftermath of the recount of December 2004, sworn affidavits were signed by three witnesses stating that they observed, on some ballots, white oval stickers over the Kerry-Edwards mark, and the Bush-Cheney oval filled in. The County Prosecutor�s office confirmed this in writing, stated further that there were fewer than 100 such ballots countywide (out of 89,822 ballots cast), and claimed that there had been an FBI investigation into the matter upon the request of Congressman John Conyers, but that the FBI report could not be located.<br />In Clermont County, in the first 4 precincts that we photographed, with 3589 ballots cast, we saw not one stickered ballot. Board of Elections personnel have confirmed that these 4 precincts were among the 97% of the ballots that were recounted by machine in December 2004, and that the observers who reported seeing stickered ballots were observing the 3% of the ballots that were hand-counted. The Board of Elections provided a statement, in writing, that 14 precincts were chosen for the hand count because they were the smallest in the county, with only 2696 ballots cast among them. Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell�s directive at that time required that the hand-counted precincts be chosen at random. We have now photographed ballots from 20 precincts, including the 14 hand-counted precincts, and have seen only one stickered presidential ballot, in Pierce Township H. [ See EXHIBIT C and EXHIBIT D ] In this case, there is a white oval sticker over the<br />Kerry-Edwards mark, and the Bush-Cheney oval is filled in with a distinctively different pencil than was used on the rest of the ballot. Also in Pierce Township H we have digital photographs of 6 ballots rubber-stamped with the word �DUPLICATE.� The Board of Elections has been unable to provide the original ballots or the stickered ballots from which these are said to have been duplicated, and thus the validity of the duplicate ballots remains unverified."<br /><br />Tampered ballot from Ohio: Smoking gun evidence of massive vote fraud in 2004 election.<br />According to the affidavit, in Delaware County, Ohio, an armed, uniformed security policeman working for an entity called Global Security Services (GSS), LLC, headquartered in Severna Park, Maryland, interfered with the team of researchers who attempted to examine punch card ballots. GSS's web site says the firm is composed of "former career U.S. Secret Service and FBI Agents, Customs Agents, CIA intelligence and operations specialists, Special Operations personnel, U.S. Marshals, former state and local law enforcement and emergency services professionals.<wbr>" And in a revelation that supports this author's original findings that the 2004 vote fraud had significant foreign and U.S. intelligence links, including off-shore banking connections, the GSS web site states the company has "a carefully developed a network of 11 affiliated offices in the United States and an additional 43 offices throughout Europe, Russia, the former Soviet Union and the Western Hemisphere.<br />The network of affiliates and contacts also include a presence in the 'off-shore safe havens' found in the Caribbean, Europe, South America, Asia and the South Pacific." This author's November and December 2004 articles stated that the money for the throwing of the 2004 election was tied to accounts in the Isle of Man, Vanuatu and the Cook Islands (South Pacific), Nevis (Caribbean), and the Bahamas.<br />Evidence of the use of pre-programmed software to affect the election outcome was also discovered in Delaware County. Election officials said they allowed a "mentally retarded man" to corrupt the punch card ballots in record speed before they were run through vote tabulation machines. According to the affidavit:<br />"The chain of custody on November 2, 2004 could have allowed for ballot tampering in Delaware County. According to Board of Elections personnel, whichever party wins the precinct in the gubernatorial election gets to choose the precinct judge for the next four years. The precinct judges, unaccompanied, bring the ballots to the Board of Elections after the polls close on Election Night. In Delaware County, almost all of these would be Republicans, as Bob Taft, the Republican, carried Delaware County with 71.9% of the vote to 23.5% for Timothy Hagan, the Democrat, winning 121 of 123 precincts. On November 2, 2004, the ballots were driven to an underground parking area, where they were unloaded by teams of teenaged volunteers, including Boy Scouts, and carried into the Board of Elections building where, again according to Board of Elections personnel, a �mentally retarded man� scraped the chads from the ballots before they were run through the tabulator. For the<br />record, even now, 20 months after the election, we are not allowed to touch the ballots in Delaware County. They must be handled by county employees, one Republican, one Democrat. Moreover, there were 79,691 ballots cast on Election Day and, according to the minutes of the Board of Elections, the unofficial results were certified at 12:40 AM, only 5 hours and 10 minutes after the polls closed. The �mentally retarded man� would have had to examine, and clean as needed, four or five ballots per second, which calls the whole story into question."<br />George W. Bush is on the speaking circuit this week, bragging about America's "democracy" and why "terrorists" hate us. Bush, who stole two presidential elections, has no ground to stand on. Mexico's actual President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, who saw his election stolen with interference from the same covert elements who engineered the 2004 election fiasco in America, has every reason to resist the illegal swearing in of neo-con Felipe Calderon, a tool of the global banking class and neo-con manipulators.<br /><br />------------<wbr>---------<wbr>---------<wbr>---<br /><br /><br />Joanne G Murphy<br /><br />------------<wbr>---------<wbr>---------<wbr>---<br />Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. </div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:jgmurphyj@yahoo.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzajkydjBlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5NwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27797">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27797;_ylc=X3oDMTM4ZHZyZHY3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5NwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3Nzk3">Messages in this topic </a>(1) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>15. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27799;_ylc=X3oDMTJzaTkxbmJlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5OQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="15">Documentary - �9/11: Press For Truth� </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "APFN" <a href="mailto:apfn@apfn.org?Subject=Re:">mailto:apfn@apfn.org?Subject=Re:</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/klvnetacom">klvnetacom </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 2:24 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content">UQ Wire: Documentary - �9/11: Press For Truth� Thu Sep 7,<br />2006 18:17<br /><a href="http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=104327">http://disc.<wbr>server.com/<wbr>discussion.<wbr>cgi?id=149495;<wbr>article=104327</a><br /><<a href="http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=104327">http://disc.<wbr>server.com/<wbr>discussion.<wbr>cgi?id=149495;<wbr>article=104327</a>><br /><br /><br /><br /><<a href="http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/">http://www.therandi<wbr>rhodesshow.<wbr>com/live/</a>><br /><a href="http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/">http://www.therandi<wbr>rhodesshow.<wbr>com/live/</a><br /><<a href="http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/">http://www.therandi<wbr>rhodesshow.<wbr>com/live/</a>><br /><br />HOUR TWO GUEST: Renowned 9/11 researcher Paul Thompson will join<br />Randi in-studio for the hour to cut through the crap in ABC�s<br />�docudrama�, delve into Pakistan�s history of hating<br />America and protecting terrorists, remind us what we already know<br />to be true about 9/11, and to explore what has yet to be<br />uncovered.<br /><a href="http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/">http://www.therandi<wbr>rhodesshow.<wbr>com/live/</a><br /><<a href="http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/">http://www.therandi<wbr>rhodesshow.<wbr>com/live/</a>><br /><br />Thompson�s 9/11 Timeline<br /><a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project">http://www.cooperat<wbr>iveresearch.<wbr>org/project.<wbr>jsp?project=<wbr>911_project</a><br /><<a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project">http://www.cooperat<wbr>iveresearch.<wbr>org/project.<wbr>jsp?project=<wbr>911_project</a>><br /><br />UQ Wire: Documentary - �9/11: Press For Truth�<br />Tuesday, 29 August 2006, 10:40 am<br /><a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0608/S00374.htm">http://www.scoop.<wbr>co.nz/stories/<wbr>WO0608/S00374.<wbr>htm</a><br /><<a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0608/S00374.htm">http://www.scoop.<wbr>co.nz/stories/<wbr>WO0608/S00374.<wbr>htm</a>><br /><br />The new film based on the 9/11 Timeline, 9/11: Press for Truth<br /><a href="http://www.911pressfortruth.com/">http://www.911press<wbr>fortruth.<wbr>com/</a><br /><<a href="http://www.911pressfortruth.com/">http://www.911press<wbr>fortruth.<wbr>com/</a>><br /><br />Speaking of the 9/11 docudrama, Bill Clinton�s pissed and<br />justifiably so. ABC won�t even give him a copy of the<br />miniseries, even though the Limbaugh�s and brown shirt<br />bloggers didn�t even need to ask for the inside scoop.<br /><br /><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/06/abc-dvd/">http://thinkprogres<wbr>s.org/2006/<wbr>09/06/abc-<wbr>dvd/</a><br /><<a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/06/abc-dvd/">http://thinkprogres<wbr>s.org/2006/<wbr>09/06/abc-<wbr>dvd/</a>><br /><br />============<wbr>=========<wbr>======<br />Press Release: www.UnansweredQuest<wbr>ions.org<br /><<a href="http://www.UnansweredQuestions.org">http://www.Unanswer<wbr>edQuestions.<wbr>org</a>><br />Distribution via the Unanswered Questions Wire<br /><a href="http://www.unansweredquestions.org/">http://www.unanswer<wbr>edquestions.<wbr>org/</a><br /><<a href="http://www.unansweredquestions.org/">http://www.unanswer<wbr>edquestions.<wbr>org/</a>> .<br /><br />For Immediate Release<br /><br />�9/11: PRESS FOR TRUTH�<br />/The 9/11 Families Speak Out in New Documentary<br />/National DVD release September 5, 2006<br /><br />Special New York City screenings September 7, 8 and 10 at the Two<br />Boots Pioneer Theater Screenings in 23 Cities Over the 9/11<br />Memorial Weekend!<br /><br />************<wbr>********<br /><br />The Two Boots Pioneer Theater 155 East 3rd Street (at Avenue A)<br />New York, NY 10009 Tel. (212) 591-0434<br /><br />Subways: F train to 2nd Ave - 6 train to Bleecker St Tickets:<br />$9.00, $6.50 members<br /><br />************<wbr>********<br /><br />/�This movie is phenomenal!" - Air America�s Randi Rhodes<br />/<br /><br />* 9/11: Press For Truth* is a powerful new documentary that<br />chronicles the battle for truth and accountability waged by the<br />families of 9/11 victims against the deception and stonewalling<br />of the Bush administration. The film will premiere on Thursday,<br />September 7, 2006, at the Two Boots Pioneer Theater at 155 East<br />Third Street in New York City, with additional screenings in<br />major cities across the country including Los Angeles, Oakland,<br />Chicago, Washington, DC, Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Fort Wayne,<br />Santa Barbara, Ventura, San Luis Obispo, Culver City, and St.<br />Paul.<br /><br />A story of the fight for truth by those closest to the tragedy,<br />and a scathing critique of the mainstream media, which refuses to<br />connect the dots, *9/11: Press For Truth* distinguishes itself<br />from a crowded field of documentaries offering conspiracy<br />narratives and mind-numbing replays of the catastrophic images of<br />the day. Directed by Ray Nowosielski, *9/11: Press For Truth* is<br />an unblinking examination of the failure of the 9/11 Commission<br />and the press to adequately address many troubling questions that<br />still haunt the families, five years after that tragic day.<br />*9/11: Press For Truth* features exclusive interviews with the<br />families of 9/11 victims, including the �Jersey Girls�<br />and 9/11 researcher Paul Thompson, author of �The Terror<br />Timeline", which pieces together stories from over 7000 media<br />reports about 9/11. In the film, Thompson fills in the gaps of<br />mainstream media coverage, presenting little-known published<br />reports that, woven together, put the lie to the �official<br />story� of 9/11.<br />ADVERTISEMENT<br /><br />Polls now show that a majority of Americans support a new<br />investigation. �Once again,� says producer Kyle Hence,<br />�the 9/11 families will play a crucial role in galvanizing<br />the public�s will to confront a combative administration, a<br />pliant Congress and an apathetic media corps that has studiously<br />avoided dealing with countervailing facts, inconvenient evidence<br />and excessive secrecy. The message these families bring must be<br />heard, loud and clear. They deserve answers.�<br /><br />A lobbying campaign calling for a new investigation will be<br />launched on September 5th, the day of DVD release, and continue<br />into the week of September 11th, during which every member of<br />Congress will receive a copy of the documentary.<br /><br />More information, including a trailer, press kit and<br />high-resolution photographs are available at:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.911PressForTruth.com/">http://www.911Press<wbr>ForTruth.<wbr>com/</a><br /><<a href="http://www.911PressForTruth.com/">http://www.911Press<wbr>ForTruth.<wbr>com/</a>><br /><br />*SCREENERS OF THIS FILM ARE AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW*. To request a<br />screener, press kit or to set up interviews please contact:<br /><br />Kyle F. Hence, Executive Producer, Co-Producer, Co-writer<br /><a href="mailto:Kylehence@earthlink.net">Kylehence@earthlink<wbr>.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Kylehence@earthlink.net">Kylehence@earthlink<wbr>.net</a>><br /><br />For exclusive clips, streaming links, quicktime files and film<br />stills please contact:<br /><br />Ray Nowosielski, Director<br />Ray @ BandedArtists.<wbr>com<br /><br />HOST A '9/11 PRESS FOR TRUTH' HOUSE PARTY<br /><a href="http://bravenewtheaters.com/home/host">http://bravenewthea<wbr>ters.com/<wbr>home/host</a><br /><<a href="http://bravenewtheaters.com/home/host">http://bravenewthea<wbr>ters.com/<wbr>home/host</a>><br /><br />PRE-ORDER THE DVD NOW<br /><a href="http://cooperativeresearch.org/911_press_for_truth.html">http://cooperativer<wbr>esearch.org/<wbr>911_press_<wbr>for_truth.<wbr>html</a><br /><<a href="http://cooperativeresearch.org/911_press_for_truth.html">http://cooperativer<wbr>esearch.org/<wbr>911_press_<wbr>for_truth.<wbr>html</a>><br /><br />ORGANIZE A THEATRICAL SCREENING IN YOUR HOME TOWN<br /><br />If you would like to organize a screening at your local theater,<br />library or community center please contact:<br /><br />Ray Nowosielski, <a href="mailto:ray@bandedartists.com">ray@bandedartists.<wbr>com</a><br /><mailto:<a href="mailto:ray@bandedartists.com">ray@bandedartists.<wbr>com</a>><br />Kyle F. 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We hope that the reader finds in it inspiration to work<br />with us further, in helping to build bridges between our various<br />investigative communities, towards a greater, common<br />understanding of the unanswered questions which now lie before<br />us.<br /><a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0608/S00374.htm">http://www.scoop.<wbr>co.nz/stories/<wbr>WO0608/S00374.<wbr>htm</a><br /><<a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0608/S00374.htm">http://www.scoop.<wbr>co.nz/stories/<wbr>WO0608/S00374.<wbr>htm</a>><br /><br />============<wbr>======<br /><br /><br />View Trailer<br />ENTER:m <<a href="http://cooperativeresearch.org/911_press_for_truth.html">http://cooperativer<wbr>esearch.org/<wbr>911_press_<wbr>for_truth.<wbr>html</a>><br />============<wbr>====<br /><br />Al-Jazeera Airs Pre-9/11 Bin Laden Tape<br />Terre Haute Tribune Star - 1 hour ago<br />By BASSEM MROUE. Al-Jazeera broadcast Thursday a previously<br />unshown video of the preparations for the Sept. 11 attacks in<br />which al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden is seen meeting with some of<br />the planners and hijackers in a mountain camp in Afghanistan. ...<br /><a href="http://911review.org/Media/Israeli_PR_machine.html">http://911review.<wbr>org/Media/<wbr>Israeli_PR_<wbr>machine.html</a><br /><<a href="http://news.google.com/news?tab=wn&ie=UTF-8&ned=us&ncl=http://www.tribstar.com/news/feeds/apcontent/apstories/apstorysection/D8K07GSO2.xml.txt/resources_apstoryview&hl=en:%3EGOOGLE%20NEWS%20UPDATES:%3C/A%3E%3CBR%20/%3E%3CBR%20/%3E-------------------%3CBR%20/%3E%3CBR%20/%3EPeace,%20Propaganda%20&%20The%20Promised%20Land%3CBR%20/%3E%3Ca%20target=">http://news.<wbr>google.com/<wbr>news?tab=<wbr>wn&ie=UTF-<wbr>8&ned=us&<wbr>ncl=http:<wbr>//www.tribstar.com/<wbr>news/feeds/<wbr>apcontent/<wbr>apstories/<wbr>apstorysection/<wbr>D8K07GSO2.xml.txt/<wbr>resources_<wbr>apstoryview&<wbr>hl=en:%3EGOOGLE%<wbr>20NEWS%20UPDATES:%3C/A%3E%<wbr>3CBR%20/%<wbr>3E%3CBR%20/<wbr>%3E------<wbr>---------<wbr>----%3CBR%<wbr>20/%3E%3CBR%20/%<wbr>3EPeace,%<wbr>20Propaganda%<wbr>20&%20The%<wbr>20Promised%<wbr>20Land%3CBR%20/%3E%3Ca%<wbr>20target=</a>><br /><br /><br />Marvin Bush: mysterious death - connections to 9/11?<br />SECRECY SURROUNDS A BUSH BROTHER'S ROLE IN 9/11 SECURITY by<br />Margie Burns<br />MORE:>><br /><<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=us&amp;q=APFN+9%2F11&btnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web">http://www.google.<wbr>com/search?<wbr>hl=en&ned=<wbr>us&q=APFN+<wbr>9%2F11&btnmeta%<wbr>3Dsearch%3Dsearch=<wbr>Search+the+<wbr>Web</a>><br /><br />"Each time a person stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve<br />the lot of others. . .they send forth a ripple of hope, and<br />crossing each other from a million different centers of energy<br />and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the<br />mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."<br />- Robert F. Kennedy<br /><br /><<a href="http://www.apfn.org/">http://www.apfn.<wbr>org/</a>><br /><br /><br />* President Bush's speech, 9/11 Fives Years Later<br /><<a href="http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=104322;title=APFN">http://disc.<wbr>server.com/<wbr>discussion.<wbr>cgi?disc=<wbr>149495;article=<wbr>104322;title=APFN</a>> � Radio Your Way, Thu Sep 7 16:17<br /><br />* Documentary - �9/11: Press For Truth� � UQ<br />Wire:, Thu Sep 7 18:17<br />* Demand ABC Correct Their 9/11 Film<br /><<a href="http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=104323;title=APFN">http://disc.<wbr>server.com/<wbr>discussion.<wbr>cgi?disc=<wbr>149495;article=<wbr>104323;title=APFN</a>> � John Conyers, Jr., Thu Sep 7 16:41<br /># # #<br /><br /><br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:apfn@apfn.org?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzcmRoaW9pBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5OQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27799">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27799;_ylc=X3oDMTM4dDJ2dmxmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzc5OQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3Nzk5">Messages in this topic </a>(1) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>16. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27800;_ylc=X3oDMTJzMWU4NGpuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="16">Full schedule of DC events for 9/11/06 </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Total Information" <a href="mailto:totalinfo@gmail.com?Subject=Re:">mailto:totalinfo@gmail.com?Subject=Re:</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/totalinfolthink">totalinfolthink </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 2:47 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content">< <a href="http://www.total411.info/2006/09/full-schedule-of-dc-events-for-91106.html">http://www.total411<wbr>.info/2006/<wbr>09/full-schedule<wbr>-of-dc-events-<wbr>for-91106.<wbr>html</a>><br /><br />8:00 am ~ Victims' Memorial Service at Reflecting Pond on the Mall Prayers<br />and Tribute Speeches (Rick Siegel)<br />9:30-11:00 am ~ LA Grand Jury Press Conference -- National Press Club -<br />Edward R. Murrow Room<br />10am ~ Jim Marrs & Barbara Honneger -- National Press Club<br />11:00 - 12:15 ~ 9/11: Press for Truth -- National Press Club - Zenger Room<br />12:30 - 2:30 pm ~ Kean-Hamilton Luncheon at the National Press Club -- *PROTEST<br />& LEAFLET OUTSIDE w/ DC911truth.org*<br />1:30pm -- March from 23d & Constitution to Lafayette Park (Rick Siegel) --<br />early arrival encouraged<br />2:30 pm ~ Morgan Reynolds & Judy Wood hold a 'counter' Press Conference at<br />the National Press Club to analyze the claims made at the Keane-Hamilton<br />Luncheon<br />2:30pm -- Rally @ Lafayette Square outside White House. Speakers: Dr Bob<br />Bowman, L.A. Grand Jury Team, 9/11 Family Representatives (invited), Morgan<br />Reynolds, Richard Siegel<br />7pm-11pm -- Screening of 9/11 Eyewitness: Hoboken, and remarks from Lt. Col.<br />Robert Bowman, Morgan Reynolds and others. AMC Theaters 'Mazza Galerie,'<br />75300 Wisconsin Ave NW ($20 donation)<br />7pm -- Screening of 9/11: Press for Truth with remarks from Kyle Hence and<br />Paul Thompson. E Street Cinema, 555 11th St NW<br /><br />--<br /><br />--<br />www.total411.<wbr>info<br />www.total911.<wbr>info<br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:totalinfo@gmail.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzamF0MGhhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27800">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27800;_ylc=X3oDMTM4am9oZ2JzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3ODAw">Messages in this topic </a>(1) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>17. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27801;_ylc=X3oDMTJzZzZxZzFtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwMQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="17">molten steel at the WTC -- the implications are inescapable </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Dick Eastman" <a href="mailto:olfriend@nwinfo.net?Subject=Re:">mailto:olfriend@nwinfo.net?Subject=Re:</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/oldickeastman">oldickeastman </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 2:48 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content">The book American Ground, which contains detailed descriptions of conditions at Ground Zero, contains this passage:<br /><br />... or, in the early days, the streams of molten metal that leaked from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the foundation hole. 10<br /><br />From: Jon Moseley<br />To: Dick Eastman ; Corvuswire ; ...<br />Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:20 PM<br />Subject: Re: A Scholars for Truth FRAUD: Little or no Pulverized Concrete<br /><br />Again, you are being intentionally vague:<br /><br />A) It appears that the aluminum of the aircraft melted in the entirely normal temperatures of an ordinary fire accelerated by jet fuel, burning at around 1800 degrees F.<br /><br />B) As to any molten metal AFTER the collapse, we still have not seen ANY evidence that there EVER WAS ANY molten metal AFTER the collapse.<br /><br />reply:<br /><br />I have no investment in the thermate theory.<br /><br />I have been told that there are accounts of molten steel. You yourself provide the quotation of the fireman who saw the red glow of the mass and turned a fire hose on it resulting in a lot of steam.<br /><br />If these accounts are true then it is all over -- kerosene did not bring down the WTC.<br /><br />The fireman is one credible source.<br /><br />We have the photo of red hot metal being lifted by crane from North Tower rubble.<br /><a href="http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7_files/image004.jpg">http://www.physics.<wbr>byu.edu/research<wbr>/energy/htm7_<wbr>files/image004.<wbr>jpg</a><br /><br />We have the photo of the waterfall of molten metal spilling from one and only one location<br /><a href="http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix3/pic87929.jpg">http://www.rumormil<wbr>lnews.com/<wbr>pix3/pic87929.<wbr>jpg</a><br />-- too much and too concentrated a stream to have been the aluminum from a plane that was smashed to smithereens so that aluminum would be all over the place and not concentrated in one river -- no, this is from a single source, from one location -- from one thermate or other high-temperature steel-melting device<br /><br />There are several published observations of molten metal in the basements of all three buildings,<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D2myMbQjQ">http://www.youtube.<wbr>com/watch?<wbr>v=Y3D2myMbQjQ</a><br /><br />There is American Free Press reporter Christopher Bollyn citing witnesses from two of the companies contracted to clean up Ground Zero. "The president of Tully Construction of Flushing, NY, said he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at Ground Zero. Bollyn also cites Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition Inc. (CDI) of Phoenix, MD, as having seen molten steel in the bottoms of elevator shafts "three, four, and five weeks" after the attack. "<br /><br />A report by Waste Age describes New York Sanitation Department workers moving "everything from molten steel beams to human remains." 2<br /><br />A report on the Government Computer News website quotes Greg Fuchek, vice president of sales for LinksPoint Inc. as stating:<br /><br />In the first few weeks, sometimes when a worker would pull a steel beam from the wreckage, the end of the beam would be dripping molten steel 3<br /><br />Bronx firefighter "Toolie" O'Toole, who stated that some of the beams lifted from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero by cranes were "dripping from the molten steel." 4<br /><br />A transcription of an audio interview of Ground Zero chaplain Herb Trimpe contains the following passage:<br /><br />When I was there, of course, the remnants of the towers were still standing. It looked like an enormous junkyard. A scrap metal yard, very similar to that. Except this was still burning. There was still fire. On the cold days, even in January, there was a noticeable difference between the temperature in the middle of the site than there was when you walked two blocks over on Broadway. You could actually feel the heat.<br /><br />It took me a long time to realize it and I found myself actually one day wanting to get back. Why? Because I felt more comfortable. I realized it was actually warmer on site. The fires burned, up to 2,000 degrees, underground for quite a while before they actually got down to those areas and they cooled off.<br /><br />I talked to many contractors and they said they actually saw molten metal trapped, beams had just totally had been melted because of the heat. So this was the kind of heat that was going on when those airplanes hit the upper floors. It was just demolishing heat. 5<br /><br />A report in the Johns Hopkins Public Health Magazine about recovery work in late October quotes Alison Geyh, Ph.D., as stating:<br /><br />Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel. 6<br /><br /><a href="http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/moltensteel.html">http://911research.<wbr>wtc7.net/<wbr>wtc/evidence/<wbr>moltensteel.<wbr>html</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/cutter_charges_brought_down_wt.html">http://www.american<wbr>freepress.<wbr>net/html/<wbr>cutter_charges_<wbr>brought_down_<wbr>wt.html</a><br /><br />So Jon, you are simply wrong when you say "we still have not seen ANY evidence that there EVER WAS ANY molten metal AFTER the collapse" -- and I don't think it is an honest mistake on your part.<br /><br />You are engaged in obstructring justice in a mass-murder case. Don't compound your guilt be continuing to serve the perpetrators.<br /><br />Dick Eastman<br />Yakima, Washington<br /><br />----- Original Message -----<br />From: Jon Moseley<br />To: Dick Eastman ; Corvuswire ; ...<br />Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:20 PM<br />Subject: Re: A Scholars for Truth FRAUD: Little or no Pulverized Concrete<br /><br />Again, you are being intentionally vague:<br /><br />A) It appears that the aluminum of the aircraft melted in the entirely normal temperatures of an ordinary fire accelerated by jet fuel, burning at around 1800 degrees F.<br /><br />B) As to any molten metal AFTER the collapse, we still have not seen ANY evidence that there EVER WAS ANY molten metal AFTER the collapse.<br /><br />----------<br /><br />No virus found in this outgoing message.<br />Checked by AVG Free Edition.<br />Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/441 - Release Date: 9/7/2006<br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:olfriend@nwinfo.net?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzODNtMnE3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwMQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27801">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27801;_ylc=X3oDMTM4djVvM3E3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwMQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3ODAx">Messages in this topic </a>(1) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>18. </dt><dd class="last"><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27802;_ylc=X3oDMTJzZGtpdm9hBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwMgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="18">This Should Be Circulated Widely </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Joe Stokes" <a href="mailto:joestokes@sbcglobal.net?Subject=Re:">mailto:joestokes@sbcglobal.net?Subject=Re:</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/jokeslove7">jokeslove7 </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 3:12 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content">PNAC Document from 1998<br /><br /><a href="http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm">http://www.newameri<wbr>cancentury.<wbr>org/iraqclintonl<wbr>etter.htm</a><br /><br />January 26, 1998<br />The Honorable William J. Clinton<br />President of the United States<br />Washington, DC<br />Dear Mr. President:<br />We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein�s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.<br />The policy of �containment� of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq�s chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam�s secrets. As a result, in<br />the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons.<br />Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world�s supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President, the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat.<br />Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.<br />We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration'<wbr>s attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.<br />We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.<br />Sincerely,<br />Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett<br />Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky<br />Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad<br />William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman<br />Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber<br />Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick<br /><br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:joestokes@sbcglobal.net?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzc2J1NTVqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwMgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27802">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27802;_ylc=X3oDMTM4ZGhsbzdqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwMgRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3ODAy">Messages in this topic </a>(1) </div></dd></dl><dl><dt>19a. </dt><dd><h2><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27803;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbHJzNjdsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwMwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz" name="19a">reviews for "9/11: Press For Truth" </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Adam Jones" <a href="mailto:ah.911t@yahoo.com?Subject=Re:">mailto:ah.911t@yahoo.com?Subject=Re:</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/ah.911t">ah.911t </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 3:29 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content"><a href="http://www.911pressfortruth.com">http://www.911press<wbr>fortruth.<wbr>com</a><br /><br />REVIEWS<br /><br />AM-NY Review (not posted yet online)<br /><a href="http://www.amny.com/">http://www.amny.<wbr>com/</a><br />***1/2 9/11: THE PRESS FOR TRUTH<br />Documentary by Ray Nowosielski<br /><br />By Jay Carr<br />The anti-Bush backlash will be stoked by "9/11:<br />The Press for<br />Truth." Ray Nowosielski'<wbr>s documentary tranchantly<br />makes the point that<br />the Bush regime has a lot to answer for, starting with<br />why it didn't<br />take seriously the many pre-9/11 warnings of an<br />imminent terrorist<br />attack involving aircraft. It adds that the 9/11<br />Commission<br />investigation was stonewalled by<br />the administration, that it wasn't until public<br />pressure generated by<br />the 9/11 widows nicknamed The Jersey Girls that<br />administration officials<br />grudgingly testified, and then minimally, with Bush<br />and Dick Cheney<br />agreeing to do so only behind closed doors and not<br />under oath.<br /><br />Was there a cover-up? The film asks, riding the<br />book "The Terror<br />Timeline" by Paul Thompson, who shames most other<br />so-called journalism<br />by digging into available material and asking pointed<br />questions. One of<br />the most explosive has to do with the assertion that<br />the money for the<br />9/11 hijackers was funnelled through the head of<br />Pakistani intelligence,<br />and that<br />this was covered up, as was Osama bin Laden's escape<br />into Pakistan when<br />Tora Bora was surrounded on only three sides and an<br />air corridor to<br />Pakistan was left open. It's hard to dispute the<br />film's conclusion that<br />without candor, without answers, without<br />accountability, our<br />understanding of 9/11 remains frustratingly<br />incomplete, whether by<br />administration design or not.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=2479">http://www.slantmag<wbr>azine.com/<wbr>film/film_<wbr>review.asp?<wbr>ID=2479</a><br />*9/11: Press for Truth*<br />Directed by: Ray Nowosielski<br />Screenplay by: Kyle F. Hence and Ray Nowosielski<br />Distributor: The Disinformation Company<br />Runtime: 85 min<br />Rating: NR<br />Year: 2006<br /><br />/Al Franken: God Spoke/<br /><<a href="http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=2472">http://www.slantmag<wbr>azine.com/<wbr>film/film_<wbr>review.asp?<wbr>ID=2472</a>><br />may or may<br />not give Ann Coulter a headache, but /9/11: Press for<br />Truth/ will give<br />her a fucking migraine. Ray Nowosielski'<wbr>s film begins<br />as a portrait of<br />the Jersey Girls, a group of four 9/11<br />widows---Kristen Breitweiser,<br />Patty Casazza, Lorie Van Auken, and Mindy<br />Kleinberg---<wbr>instrumental in<br />drumming up support from both sides of the political<br />aisle for what<br />would eventually become the 9/11 Commission. Despite<br />Coulter's vulgar<br />accusations that these bipartisan women enjoyed the<br />deaths of their<br />husbands, it's clear that that the only satisfaction<br />these obviously<br />pained women seek is an acknowledgement of blame from<br />our government for<br />insufficiently acting on its pre-9/11 intelligence.<br />With the help of<br />Paul Thompson, author of the comprehensive /The Terror<br />Timeline/, and an<br />arsenal of media footage at his disposal, Nowosielski<br />catalogs<br />frustration after frustration, effortlessly<br />illuminating that 9/11 was<br />more than just a "failure of imagination.<wbr>" But the<br />title of the film<br />refers not only to the Jersey Girls' vigilant demand<br />for truth but to<br />the media's own refusal to push for truth after 9/11<br />for fear of<br />retribution from higher powers. This is where the film<br />reveals its<br />complexity, except Nowosielski makes the mistake of<br />indulging trite<br />scare-mongering tactics, from his use of scary-movie<br />music on the<br />soundtrack to frequent cutaways to a CGI wall of<br />television sets<br />ostensibly meant to evoke the media's Orwellian<br />control of our<br />(dis)information. These lapses make a smart<br />documentary appear awfully<br />unbecoming.<br /><br />Ed Gonzalez<br /><javascript:<wbr>noSpam('ed'<wbr>,'slantmagazine.<wbr>com')><br />� slant magazine, 2006.<br /><br />Latest from Sibel Edmonds--note mention of Operation<br />Diamondback.<br /><br />[snip]<br />*Dick Stoltz, Retired Special Agent; ATF- *Mr. Stoltz,<br />a veteran<br />undercover agent with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco<br />and Firearms, had<br />played an important role in /Operation Diamondback/<br />between 1998 and<br />2001. The sting operation involved a group of Middle<br />Eastern men living<br />in New Jersey who were caught on tape in an ATF<br />weapons sting conspiring<br />to buy millions of dollars of weapons including<br />components for nuclear<br />bombs. The case came to a screeching halt with the<br />arrest of only a<br />handful of suspects in June of 2001 even though there<br />was ample evidence<br />that some of the people who were attempting to buy<br />these weapons had<br />connections with the Taliban, Al Qaeda and Osama Bin<br />Laden himself. The<br />9/11 Commission refused to contact Agent Stoltz<br />despite all attempts<br />made by several witnesses from the intelligence & Law<br />Enforcement<br />Communities, and the 9/11 Family group, Jersey Moms.<br />[snip]<br /><a href="http://nswbc.org/Press%20Releases/NSWBC-911Comm.htm">http://nswbc.<wbr>org/Press%<wbr>20Releases/<wbr>NSWBC-911Comm.<wbr>htm</a><br /><br /><br />____________<wbr>_________<wbr>_________<wbr>_________<wbr>_________<wbr>__<br />Do You Yahoo!?<br />Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Ray Nowosielski'<wbr>s documentary tranchantly<br />makes the point that<br />the Bush regime has a lot to answer for, starting with<br />why it didn't<br />take seriously the many pre-9/11 warnings of an<br />imminent terrorist<br />attack involving aircraft. It adds that the 9/11<br />Commission<br />investigation was stonewalled by<br />the administration, that it wasn't until public<br />pressure generated by<br />the 9/11 widows nicknamed The Jersey Girls that<br />administration officials<br />grudgingly testified, and then minimally, with Bush<br />and Dick Cheney<br />agreeing to do so only behind closed doors and not<br />under oath.<br /><br />Was there a cover-up? The film asks, riding the<br />book "The Terror<br />Timeline" by Paul Thompson, who shames most other<br />so-called journalism<br />by digging into available material and asking pointed<br />questions. One of<br />the most explosive has to do with the assertion that<br />the money for the<br />9/11 hijackers was funnelled through the head of<br />Pakistani intelligence,<br />and that<br />this was covered up, as was Osama bin Laden's escape<br />into Pakistan when<br />Tora Bora was surrounded on only three sides and an<br />air corridor to<br />Pakistan was left open. It's hard to dispute the<br />film's conclusion that<br />without candor, without answers, without<br />accountability, our<br />understanding of 9/11 remains frustratingly<br />incomplete, whether by<br />administration design or not.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=2479">http://www.slantmag<wbr>azine.com/<wbr>film/film_<wbr>review.asp?<wbr>ID=2479</a><br />*9/11: Press for Truth*<br />Directed by: Ray Nowosielski<br />Screenplay by: Kyle F. Hence and Ray Nowosielski<br />Distributor: The Disinformation Company<br />Runtime: 85 min<br />Rating: NR<br />Year: 2006<br /><br />/Al Franken: God Spoke/<br /><<a href="http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=2472">http://www.slantmag<wbr>azine.com/<wbr>film/film_<wbr>review.asp?<wbr>ID=2472</a>><br />may or may<br />not give Ann Coulter a headache, but /9/11: Press for<br />Truth/ will give<br />her a fucking migraine. Ray Nowosielski'<wbr>s film begins<br />as a portrait of<br />the Jersey Girls, a group of four 9/11<br />widows---Kristen Breitweiser,<br />Patty Casazza, Lorie Van Auken, and Mindy<br />Kleinberg---<wbr>instrumental in<br />drumming up support from both sides of the political<br />aisle for what<br />would eventually become the 9/11 Commission. Despite<br />Coulter's vulgar<br />accusations that these bipartisan women enjoyed the<br />deaths of their<br />husbands, it's clear that that the only satisfaction<br />these obviously<br />pained women seek is an acknowledgement of blame from<br />our government for<br />insufficiently acting on its pre-9/11 intelligence.<br />With the help of<br />Paul Thompson, author of the comprehensive /The Terror<br />Timeline/, and an<br />arsenal of media footage at his disposal, Nowosielski<br />catalogs<br />frustration after frustration, effortlessly<br />illuminating that 9/11 was<br />more than just a "failure of imagination.<wbr>" But the<br />title of the film<br />refers not only to the Jersey Girls' vigilant demand<br />for truth but to<br />the media's own refusal to push for truth after 9/11<br />for fear of<br />retribution from higher powers. This is where the film<br />reveals its<br />complexity, except Nowosielski makes the mistake of<br />indulging trite<br />scare-mongering tactics, from his use of scary-movie<br />music on the<br />soundtrack to frequent cutaways to a CGI wall of<br />television sets<br />ostensibly meant to evoke the media's Orwellian<br />control of our<br />(dis)information. These lapses make a smart<br />documentary appear awfully<br />unbecoming.<br /><br />Ed Gonzalez<br /><javascript:<wbr>noSpam('ed'<wbr>,'slantmagazine.<wbr>com')><br />� slant magazine, 2006.<br /><br />Latest from Sibel Edmonds--note mention of Operation<br />Diamondback.<br /><br />[snip]<br />*Dick Stoltz, Retired Special Agent; ATF- *Mr. Stoltz,<br />a veteran<br />undercover agent with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco<br />and Firearms, had<br />played an important role in /Operation Diamondback/<br />between 1998 and<br />2001. The sting operation involved a group of Middle<br />Eastern men living<br />in New Jersey who were caught on tape in an ATF<br />weapons sting conspiring<br />to buy millions of dollars of weapons including<br />components for nuclear<br />bombs. The case came to a screeching halt with the<br />arrest of only a<br />handful of suspects in June of 2001 even though there<br />was ample evidence<br />that some of the people who were attempting to buy<br />these weapons had<br />connections with the Taliban, Al Qaeda and Osama Bin<br />Laden himself. The<br />9/11 Commission refused to contact Agent Stoltz<br />despite all attempts<br />made by several witnesses from the intelligence & Law<br />Enforcement<br />Communities, and the 9/11 Family group, Jersey Moms.<br />[snip]<br /><a href="http://nswbc.org/Press%20Releases/NSWBC-911Comm.htm">http://nswbc.<wbr>org/Press%<wbr>20Releases/<wbr>NSWBC-911Comm.<wbr>htm</a><br /><br /><br />____________<wbr>_________<wbr>_________<wbr>_________<wbr>_________<wbr>__<br />Do You Yahoo!?<br />Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Fagan's Illuminati and the CFR </a></h2><h3>Posted by: "Kevin Lee Hammond" <a href="mailto:exposethenewworldorder@yahoo.com?Subject=Re:">mailto:exposethenewworldorder@yahoo.com?Subject=Re:</a> <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/exposethenewworldorder">exposethenewworldorder </a></h3><h4>Thu Sep 7, 2006 4:21 pm (PST) </h4><div class="ygrp-content"><br /><br />iNFoWaRZ <<a href="mailto:InfoWarz@rovin.net">InfoWarz@rovin.<wbr>net</a>> wrote: To: Recipient list suppressed: ;<br />From: iNFoWaRZ <<a href="mailto:InfoWarz@rovin.net">InfoWarz@rovin.<wbr>net</a>><br />Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:09:59 -0400<br />Subject: [ParanoidTimes] Audio: Myron C. Fagan's Illuminati and the CFR<br /><br />Audio: Myron C. Fagan's The Illuminati<br />and the Council on Foreign Relations<br /><br />The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,<br />Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.<br />Psa 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. -Psa 2:2<br /><br />This is the classic recording made in 1967 by Myron C. Fagan of his expos� on the Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations.<br />It was recorded on three LP Records and each part of this six part series represents a side of those LP Records.<br />Thanks to APFN.org for archiving this classic recording.<br />Each part approximately 25 minutes long.<br /><br />Listen:<br />Part 1:<br /><a href="http://www.apfn.org/audio/fagan-one.mp3">http://www.apfn.<wbr>org/audio/<wbr>fagan-one.<wbr>mp3</a><br /><br />Part 2:<br /><a href="http://www.apfn.org/audio/fagan-two.mp3">http://www.apfn.<wbr>org/audio/<wbr>fagan-two.<wbr>mp3</a><br /><br />Part 3:<br /><a href="http://www.apfn.org/audio/fagan-three.mp3">http://www.apfn.<wbr>org/audio/<wbr>fagan-three.<wbr>mp3</a><br /><br />Part 4:<br /><a href="http://www.apfn.org/audio/fagan-four.mp3">http://www.apfn.<wbr>org/audio/<wbr>fagan-four.<wbr>mp3</a><br /><br />Part 5:<br /><a href="http://www.apfn.org/audio/fagan-five.mp3">http://www.apfn.<wbr>org/audio/<wbr>fagan-five.<wbr>mp3</a><br /><br />Part 6:<br /><a href="http://www.apfn.org/audio/fagan-six.mp3">http://www.apfn.<wbr>org/audio/<wbr>fagan-six.<wbr>mp3</a><br /><br />Transcript of the 1967 address by Myron C. 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This letter is such a major shot across the bow of Disney, it's not even funny. It is FILLED with veiled threats, both legal and legislative, against Disney. US Senators don't make threats like this, especially the entire Democratic leadership en masse, unless they mean it. Disney is in serious trouble.<br /><br />Read it, then read my analysis of it below:September 7, 2006<br /><br />Mr. Robert A. Iger<br />President and CEO<br />The Walt Disney Company<br />500 South Buena Vista Street<br />Burbank CA 91521<br /><br />Dear Mr. Iger,<br /><br />We write with serious concerns about the planned upcoming broadcast of The Path to 9/11 mini-series on September 10 and 11. Countless reports from experts on 9/11 who have viewed the program indicate numerous and serious inaccuracies that will undoubtedly serve to misinform the American people about the tragic events surrounding the terrible attacks of that day. Furthermore, the manner in which this program has been developed, funded, and advertised suggests a partisan bent unbecoming of a major company like Disney and a major and well respected news organization like ABC. We therefore urge you to cancel this broadcast to cease Disney�s plans to use it as a teaching tool in schools across America through Scholastic. Presenting such deeply flawed and factually inaccurate misinformation to the American public and to children would be a gross miscarriage of your corporate and civic responsibility to the law, to your shareholders, and to the nation.<br /><br />The Communications Act of 1934 provides your network with a free broadcast license predicated on the fundamental understanding of your principle obligation to act as a trustee of the public airwaves in serving the public interest. Nowhere is this public interest obligation more apparent than in the duty of broadcasters to serve the civic needs of a democracy by promoting an open and accurate discussion of political ideas and events.<br /><br />Disney and ABC claim this program to be based on the 9/11 Commission Report and are using that assertion as part of the promotional campaign for it. The 9/11 Commission is the most respected American authority on the 9/11 attacks, and association with it carries a special responsibility. Indeed, the very events themselves on 9/11, so tragic as they were, demand extreme care by any who attempt to use those events as part of an entertainment or educational program. To quote Steve McPhereson, president of ABC Entertainment, �When you take on the responsibility of telling the story behind such an important event, it is absolutely critical that you get it right.�<br /><br />Unfortunately, it appears Disney and ABC got it totally wrong.<br /><br />Despite claims by your network�s representatives that The Path to 9/11 is based on the report of the 9/11 Commission, 9/11 Commissioners themselves, as well as other experts on the issues, disagree.<br /><br />Richard Ben-Veniste, speaking for himself and fellow 9/11 Commissioners who recently viewed the program, said, �As we were watching, we were trying to think how they could have misinterpreted the 9/11 Commission�s findings the way that they had.� [�9/11 Miniseries Is Criticized as Inaccurate and Biased,� New York Times, September 6, 2006]<br /><br />Richard Clarke, the former counter-terrorism czar, and a national security advisor to ABC has described the program as �deeply flawed� and said of the program�s depiction of a Clinton official hanging up on an intelligence agent, �It�s 180 degrees from what happened.� [�9/11 Miniseries Is Criticized as Inaccurate and Biased,� New York Times, September 6, 2006]<br /><br />Reports suggest that an FBI agent who worked on 9/11 and served as a consultant to ABC on this program quit halfway through because, �he thought they were making things up.� [MSNBC, September 7, 2006]<br /><br />Even Thomas Kean, who serves as a paid consultant to the miniseries, has admitted that scenes in the film are fictionalized. [�9/11 Miniseries Is Criticized as Inaccurate and Biased,� New York Times, September 6, 2006]<br /><br />That Disney would seek to broadcast an admittedly and proven false recounting of the events of 9/11 raises serious questions about the motivations of its creators and those who approved the deeply flawed program. Finally, that Disney plans to air commercial-free a program that reportedly cost it $40 million to produce serves to add fuel to these concerns.<br /><br />These concerns are made all the more pressing by the political leaning of and the public statements made by the writer/producer of this miniseries, Mr. Cyrus Nowrasteh, in promoting this miniseries across conservative blogs and talk shows.<br /><br />Frankly, that ABC and Disney would consider airing a program that could be construed as right-wing political propaganda on such a grave and important event involving the security of our nation is a discredit both to the Disney brand and to the legacy of honesty built at ABC by honorable individuals from David Brinkley to Peter Jennings. Furthermore, that Disney would seek to use Scholastic to promote this misguided programming to American children as a substitute for factual information is a disgrace.<br /><br />As 9/11 Commission member Jamie Gorelick said, �It is critically important to the safety of our nation that our citizens, and particularly our school children, understand what actually happened and why � so that we can proceed from a common understanding of what went wrong and act with unity to make our country safer.�<br /><br />Should Disney allow this programming to proceed as planned, the factual record, millions of viewers, countless schoolchildren, and the reputation of Disney as a corporation worthy of the trust of the American people and the United States Congress will be deeply damaged. We urge you, after full consideration of the facts, to uphold your responsibilities as a respected member of American society and as a beneficiary of the free use of the public airwaves to cancel this factually inaccurate and deeply misguided program. We look forward to hearing back from you soon.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid<br />Assistant Democratic Leader Dick Durbin<br />Senator Debbie Stabenow<br />Senator Charles Schumer<br />Senator Byron DorganThe Senate Democratic leadership just threatened Disney's broadcast license. Not the use of the word "trustee" at the beginning of the letter and "trust" at the end. This is nothing less than an implicit threat that if Disney tries to meddle in the US elections on behalf of the Republicans, they will pay a very serious price when the Democrats get back in power, or even before.<br /><br />This raises the stakes incredibly for Disney.<br /><br /></div><div class="ygrp-dateline"><div class="offset"><a href="#toc">Back to top </a></div><a href="mailto:joestokes@sbcglobal.net?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">sender</span> </a> <a href="mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com?Subject=Re:">Reply to <span class="bld">group</span> </a> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdGRkaWVtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwNwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz?act=reply&messageNum=27807">Reply <span class="bld">via web post</span> </a><br /><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/27807;_ylc=X3oDMTM4YWFocWM1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARtc2dJZAMyNzgwNwRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQzBHRwY0lkAzI3ODA3">Messages in this topic </a>(1) </div></dd></dl></div></div><!-- Sponsor --><!-- **begin egp html banner** --><div id="ygrp-sponsor" style="CLEAR: none; BACKGROUND: white; FLOAT: left; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 25px; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px; WIDTH: 140px"><!-- Network content --><!-- Start vitality --><div id="ygrp-vital"><div id="vithd">Recent Activity</div><ul style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 2px 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px; LIST-STYLE-TYPE: none"><li style="CLEAR: both"><div class="ct" style="FLOAT: right"><span style="DISPLAY: none"> </span>6 </div><div class="cat"><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJncjI4Z2l1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQz">New Members</a></div></li></ul><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911TruthAction;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYnVoaXJhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMjIwNzA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTYwMDQ0NDQ5MARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzExNTc2NzgyNDM-">Visit Your Group </a></div><div id="hd">SPONSORED LINKS</div><div id="ov"><ul><li><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJkaDdpZXVuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BF9wAzEEZ3JwSWQDMTMyMjA3MDkEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNjAwNDQ0NDkwBHNlYwNzbG1vZARzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQ0?t=ms&k=Jolly+roger&w1=Jolly+roger&w2=United+state+flag&w3=United+state+travel&w4=Jolly+roger+hotel&w5=Jolly+roger+flag&c=5&s=110&g=3&.sig=FH1_ZDfpZNS4Aglo_u-FoQ">Jolly roger</a></li><li><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcGhzdXViBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BF9wAzIEZ3JwSWQDMTMyMjA3MDkEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNjAwNDQ0NDkwBHNlYwNzbG1vZARzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQ0?t=ms&k=United+state+flag&w1=Jolly+roger&w2=United+state+flag&w3=United+state+travel&w4=Jolly+roger+hotel&w5=Jolly+roger+flag&c=5&s=110&g=3&.sig=GWXAgVEhnwJyawS4EatDRw">United state flag</a></li><li><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcW4yZ3FuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BF9wAzMEZ3JwSWQDMTMyMjA3MDkEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNjAwNDQ0NDkwBHNlYwNzbG1vZARzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQ0?t=ms&k=United+state+travel&w1=Jolly+roger&w2=United+state+flag&w3=United+state+travel&w4=Jolly+roger+hotel&w5=Jolly+roger+flag&c=5&s=110&g=3&.sig=5nMeGlPtsVNHGnQQ5KTOdw">United state travel</a></li><li><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJkMWNrdDc3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BF9wAzQEZ3JwSWQDMTMyMjA3MDkEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNjAwNDQ0NDkwBHNlYwNzbG1vZARzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQ0?t=ms&k=Jolly+roger+hotel&w1=Jolly+roger&w2=United+state+flag&w3=United+state+travel&w4=Jolly+roger+hotel&w5=Jolly+roger+flag&c=5&s=110&g=3&.sig=vmelEaq4Z_T15RSdkHf5EA">Jolly roger hotel</a></li><li><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads;_ylc=X3oDMTJkODA3YzlhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BF9wAzUEZ3JwSWQDMTMyMjA3MDkEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNjAwNDQ0NDkwBHNlYwNzbG1vZARzdGltZQMxMTU3Njc4MjQ0?t=ms&k=Jolly+roger+flag&w1=Jolly+roger&w2=United+state+flag&w3=United+state+travel&w4=Jolly+roger+hotel&w5=Jolly+roger+flag&c=5&s=110&g=3&.sig=PyOUmYhrl0tRGNR6G0BLrg">Jolly roger flag</a></li></ul></div><!-- Network content --><div id="nc"><div class="ad"><div id="hd1">Yahoo! 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