Friday, April 07, 2006

[political-research] Re: Tracking the Israel Lobby in Real Time

Thanks for the pointer -- I wasn't aware that this group ranked high on that particular list.  I did know, however, that quite a few of the readers of this group are influential, and that the impact of the group is substantially greater than the mere number of subscribers would indicate.  Think of it as the Velvet Underground or Brian Jonestown Massacre of intel-oriented groups. :)  (Both bands had relatively few fans, but many of those fans went on to create extremely influential bands.  They were below-the-radar monsters, in terms of covert influence on the culture.  By the way, I don't really intend to compare this group to John Cale or Anton Newcomb -- those guys really are major league geniuses.)
 
Have you stopped to think how influential cia-drugs has been on the culture at large, particularly in its 2000-2002 phase?  Some key questions about 9/11 and the role of neoconservatives in the Bush administration began to emerge in that tiny venue before they entered the alternative media issue stream.  There were some incredibly bold, cutting-edge minds in cia-drugs when it was running on all cylinders.  I've never seen so many unprogrammed and unprogrammable minds in a single spot who were completely fearless in following the facts wherever they led.
 
Regarding the ADL: it is a key component of the overall Israel lobby (and of the CPMAJO), and often develops shoddy and cheesy apologetics to try to fend off legitimate criticism of the Israeli government.  Many people strongly suspect that the ADL operates intimately with Mossad.  Marc Rich is one key link which connects the ADL and Mossad.
 
Regarding the Harvard/UChicago paper on the lobby: I am still kind of blown away that this paper appeared.  Many people at elite American universities have been thinking this way for some time, but very few of them have the courage to tell the truth.  They understand that the consequences of truth-telling on this matter can be devastating to the truth-teller.
 
The dam may finally be breaking on discussing the Israel lobby for two reasons: (1) it was highly conspicuous in agitating for the Iraq War (and now an Iran War), and (2) the Iraq War has turned out to be a gigantic disaster for the American interest, the Mideast and the world at large.  It is simply no longer possible to sweep these important truths under the rug -- too much is at stake to play dumb and lie low.
 
The Mearsheimer and Walt paper may prove to be as big a cultural detonation as the 95 Theses Martin Luther nailed to the Wittenburg church door in 1517.  The Israel lobby is no longer going to get a free ride in promoting its agenda.  It is going to have to start making sense in fair, open and reasonable policy debate.

--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, "LeaNder" <l.l.hahn@...> wrote:
>
> In a way it's fascinating to watch how your perspective is gaining
> ever more momentum. Yesterday I noticed that you are heading for the
> no. 1 place in intellegence matter among yahoo groups. Are you aware
> of this at all?
>
> http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/dir/Government___Politics/Intelligence?st=30
>
> Mind you I can understand. This indeed seems a much hotter topic than
> e.g. cia-drugs. It's strange to look back now at our early
> confrontations anyway, looks as if you were right from the very start.
>
> But may I politely ask one question? Why does ADL surface in your
> list. I can't remember a single mail by you on this topic?
>
>
> -b
>
>
>
> >
> > How powerful is the Israel lobby? What is it up to? What policies
> is it promoting? Who are the key members of the lobby?
> >
> > Judge for yourself -- the lobby is an open book.
> >
> > To understand the neoconservative wing of the Israel lobby, pay
> special attention to Commentary, AEI, JINSA, Jewish World Review,
> FrontPage Magazine, The Weekly Standard and the Jewish Press.
> >
> > Anyone who was following these sites in 2002 and 2003 knows that the
> Israel lobby was the prime mover behind the Iraq War and is the prime
> mover now in trying to expand the war to Iran and beyond. Quite a few
> members of the "alternative" media, like Noam Chomsky and Michael
> Ruppert, have done an impressive job of ignoring these sites
> completely in analyzing the political context for the exploitation of
> 9/11 and the engineering of the Iraq War
> >
> > 1. ADL (Anti-Defamation League)

> > 2. AEI (American Enterprise Institute)
> >
> > 3. AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee)
> >
> > 4. Benador Associates
> >
> > 5. CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America)
> >
> > 6. Campus Watch
> >
> > 7. Commentary
> >
> > 8. CSP (Center for Security Policy)
> >
> > 9. FDD (Foundation for the Defense of Democracies)
> >
> > 10. Forward
> >
> > 11. Freeman Center for Strategic Studies
> >
> > 12. FrontPage Magazine
> >
> > 13. Haaretz
> >
> > 14. IFCJ (International Fellowship of Christians and Jews)
> >
> > 15. Israel National News (Arutz Sheva)
> >
> > 16. IsraPundit
> >
> > 17. JCSS (Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies)
> >
> > 18. Jerusalem Newswire
> >
> > 19. Jerusalem Post
> >
> > 20. Jewish Press
> >
> > 21. Jewish Week
> >
> > 22. Jewish World Review
> >
> > 23. Jewsweek
> >
> > 24. JINSA (Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs)
> >
> > 25. JTA (Jewish Telegraphic Agency)
> >
> > 26. Likud
> >
> > 27. Little Green Footballs
> >
> > 28. Lucianne.com
> >
> > 29. MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute)
> >
> > 30. Middle East Forum
> >
> > 31. National Review
> >
> > 32. New Republic
> >
> > 33. New York Post
> >
> > 34. New York Sun
> >
> > 35. NJDC (National Jewish Democratic Council)
> >
> > 36. One Jerusalem
> >
> > 37. PNAC (Project for the New American Century)
> >
> > 38. RJC (Republican Jewish Coalition)
> >
> > 39. Saban Center for Middle East Policy
> >
> > 40. Simon Wiesenthal Center
> >
> > 41. The Board of Deputies of British Jews
> >
> > 42. The David Project
> >
> > 43. The Israel Project
> >
> > 44. Toward Tradition
> >
> > 45. Townhall.com
> >
> > 46. Washington Jewish Week
> >
> > 47. Weekly Standard
> >
> > 48. WINEP (Washington Institute for Near East Policy)
> >
> > 49. WorldNetDaily
> >
> > 50. ZOA (Zionist Organization of America)
> >
>

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