Most historians, and certainly most conspiracy researchers, are going to examine this news report and wonder immediately how many high-level political leaders Menachem Begin and his fellow Jabotinskyites/neoconservatives murdered all around the world. Menachem Begin is not just any Israeli -- he became the prime minister of Israel and he was the most powerful leader of neoconservatism for quite a few years. This is much more than a German issue. This is about the political methods of the Israeli government vis-a-vis the entire world.
Political fanatics and ethnic zealots generally do not commit only one assassination -- it becomes a habit. They commit many assassinations. It seems quite likely, for instance, based on the known evidence, that neoconservatives in the Israeli government murdered the "liberal" Yitzhak Rabin, whom they believed was violating the will of God and selling Israel down the river. Israel is the only government in the world currently which openly boasts about its policy of assassinating political opponents as standard operating procedure. (Supposedly they assassinate only "terrorists" -- but as we have seen repeatedly from the demented rhetoric of neoconservatives like Richard Perle and David Horowitz, they consider all political opponents to be "terrorists.")
Do you believe that the Israeli government is justified in assassinating any world leader, or any ordinary citizen, it dislikes? Did John F. Kennedy deserve to get whacked because he opposed David Ben-Gurion's plans to develop Israel's nuclear weapons program?
LeaNder <l.l.hahn@web.de> wrote:
__._,_.___ Political fanatics and ethnic zealots generally do not commit only one assassination -- it becomes a habit. They commit many assassinations. It seems quite likely, for instance, based on the known evidence, that neoconservatives in the Israeli government murdered the "liberal" Yitzhak Rabin, whom they believed was violating the will of God and selling Israel down the river. Israel is the only government in the world currently which openly boasts about its policy of assassinating political opponents as standard operating procedure. (Supposedly they assassinate only "terrorists" -- but as we have seen repeatedly from the demented rhetoric of neoconservatives like Richard Perle and David Horowitz, they consider all political opponents to be "terrorists.")
Do you believe that the Israeli government is justified in assassinating any world leader, or any ordinary citizen, it dislikes? Did John F. Kennedy deserve to get whacked because he opposed David Ben-Gurion's plans to develop Israel's nuclear weapons program?
LeaNder <l.l.hahn@web.de> wrote:
Sean,
somehow I can understand that there are Israeli's or Jews that would
never speak a word with a German. Look at Goldhagen's thesis. We do
seem to have some peculiar cruelty in our genes and/or in our mental
history. The problem with this thesis is that the Nazi's wherever they
went did not have much difficulties in finding collaborators, as there
were Germans that did resist the Nazi spirit. In the little space left
after the "Gleichschaltung". So the empirical facts on the ground seem
to be much more complicated.
Concerning Adenauer - who had been the mayor of Cologne before the
Nazi's by the way - it's a really difficult affair. To pick out one
little part of his long life, he selected a couple of Nazis in his
cabinet, that's why the US didn't pass on informations about where
Eichmann went to the Israelis, Adenauer didn't want to get some of his
special former Nazis in troubles. I am very pleased that this is
finally on the table, somehow we have been suspecting this all along.
These matters troubled part of my generation. And ultimately led to
the terrorism of the seventies.
Lately I find Germans writing that the cold-war ? and thus the easily
distributed "Persil" papers (Persil = German detergent brand), that
basically stated someone "was clean" ? was very good for "us" Germans.
Admittedly this feels like some bad kind of senility to me.
-b
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> Former prime minister Menachem Begin played a central role in a
failed attempt to assassinate then-West German Chancellor Konrad
Adenauer, with the objective of sabotaging the reparations agreement
in the works with Israel, according to the journal of Eliezer Sudit,
one of the men who carried out the attempted hit.
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> Sudit's journal, which was published in a limited number of copies
only, came into the possession of the Israel correspondent for the
German daily, the Frankfurter Allgemeine.
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> Excerpts from the diary passed on to Haaretz reveal that Begin knew
of the plans to assassinate Adenauer, and even initiated meetings to
promote the operation. Among other things, Sudit writes that he heard
Begin had offered to sell his gold watch to pay for the hit after the
operation ran into financial difficulties.
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