There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. How stupid do you want to be? Oh, so Zionists had nothing to do with
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
2. Fw: Zionism and Judaism and 9-11
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
3. Re: who on the internet am I thankful for -- endorsing the worthy
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
4. Justin Raimondo: The case against intervention (Dafur etc.)
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
5. What freedom of thought? -- The Political Taboos that Zionist J-ws
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
6. Re: Zionism and Judaism
From: "Richard Pierce" phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com
7. My Fax to the Lawbreaker President
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
8. AFL-CIO Now: May Day Edition
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
9. Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse? By Steven E. Jones-Brigha
From: "Neo Mulder" neomulder1@yahoo.com
10. Bolivia smartens up -- occupies natural gas fields, demands new con
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
11. Turn on Your Computer, er, Brain, er, Computer...
From: "janet phelan" jcphelan10@yahoo.com
12. Have the MayDay Demonstrators shown Anti-War Leanings? What have yo
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
13. Universal's Flight 93 'Hijacked' By Truth Seekers
From: "Linda G. Richard" dazey@briskweb.net
14. Safer than What???
From: "janet phelan" jcphelan10@yahoo.com
15. 9/11 Hoax
From: "Thomas Potter" mr_thomas_potter@yahoo.com
16. lIES
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
17. Re: 9/11 Hoax
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
18. Christopher Bollyn: 9-11 Lawsuits Stymied -- victim families under
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
19. Re: Universal's Flight 93 'Hijacked' By Truth Seekers
From: "JP Liggett" JP@JPLiggett.com
20. Fw: Kaminski Terminating the perpetual Holocaust / Barbra-ren��
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
21. This is disturbing!
From: "Caomhain {Kevin} Lee Hammond" sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com
22. Re: This is disturbing!
From: "Edward Pickersgill" edward@mytown.ca
23. Re: This is disturbing!
From: "Kevin Hammond" sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com
24. Re: This is disturbing!
From: "Edward Pickersgill" edward@mytown.ca
25. Re: Latino protesters made a huge public relations mistake
From: "NoRedCoats@aol.com" NoRedCoats@aol.com
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Message 1
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 9:38am(PDT)
Subject: How stupid do you want to be? Oh, so Zionists had nothing to do with
From: "Richard Pierce" <phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com>
Subject: [populist-talk] Don't fall for the deceptions
Brian McDermott wrote:
The Jesuits,
the Vatican,
the Black Pope...
Masterminds of 9-11? No! Don't fall for the deception! updated 30 April 2006
Daryl Bradford Smith has a special audio message to help you understand the Black Pope theories: Click your right mouse button and select download: Smith on the Black Pope, April 30, 2006 <http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith-Black-Pope.mp3> 1.5 mb
Greg Szymanski, Eric Jon Phelps, and many others, are promoting the theory that the Black Pope ordered the 9/11 attacks:
www.arcticbeacon.com/20-Apr-2006.html <http://www.arcticbeacon.com/20-Apr-2006.html> Another of Szymanski's articles:
www.arcticbeacon.com/16-Jan-2006.html <http://www.arcticbeacon.com/16-Jan-2006.html>
The Vatican is not the mastermind to the world's corruption!
The pilots of the planes who attacked the USS Liberty were Israelis, not Jesuits. Take a look yourself: USSLiberty.org <http://www.ussliberty.org/> or judicial-inc liberty <http://judicial-inc.biz/uss_liberty.htm>
The "dancing Arabs" on 9-11 turned out to be Israelis with Arab clothing, not Jesuits with Arab clothing.
The "art students" that were picked up after 9-11 were Israeli Jews, not Italian Catholics.
The landlord of the World Trade Center is Jewish, not Catholic, and so are most all of the people pushing the Black Pope nonsense and trying to cover up the demolition of the towers.
The television, newspapers, and magazines that are suppressing evidence of these crimes are Jewish, not Italian or Catholic.
There are lots of reasons to believe Zionists are the problem:
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_ZionSummary.html <http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_ZionSummary.html>
"We are watching you"
The criminals are not getting away with these crimes because they are too sneaky to leave clues. Rather, they get away with them because most people turn their head. We can easily identify many of the criminals; we are watching you, and recording your names. Some obvious examples:
Eric Jon Phelps is one of many people who are trying to convince us that Pope and other Catholic Church officials are the source of all evil in the world.
His site is vaticanassassins.org <http://www.vaticanassassins.org/> Here is one document. <http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/vatican-ny.html>
Sherman Skolnick, of skolnicksreport.com <http://www.skolnicksreport.com> <http://www.skolnicksreport.com/> and cloakanddagger.de <]/">">http://www.cloakanddagger.de> <http://www.cloakanddagger.de> , also promotes the Black Pope nonsense.
Here is one of his Jesuit articles <http://www.skolnicksreport.com/ootar42.html> . And here is one about the Black Pope <http://www.skolnicksreport.com/bvop2.html> .
Greg Szymanski, who often promotes the theory that the Vatican is behind the world's problems. He also promotes Eric Jon Phelps. His site is arcticbeacon.com <http://www.arcticbeacon.com/index.html>
The Catholic Church is impotent The Catholic Church may have had significant influence in European life in 1200 AD, but it has never been so impotent. For a few examples:
There are fewer priests and nuns than ever before.
The Catholic schools have to bring in lay teachers because there are too few Jesuits.
The Church is suffering serious damage because they are being hit with one charge of pedophilia after the next.
Catholic Churches around the world are losing attendance.
None of the top church officials have the intelligence or technical skills to plan or execute the demolition of the WTC towers, nor do the Church officials have the necessary control over the media of Europe, Australia, or America to suppress news of the scam.
The City of London,
British Freemasonry,
the Knights Templars... are these the world's evil masters?
Barry Chamish blames the world's problem on "British Freemasonry". In one article he claims that Israel was created by these "British Jewish Masonic families". In another article he tells us about the "Nazi Jesuits": "The destruction of the Jews is a primary goal of the Jesuits."
Barry Chamish wants us to believe that the British Jewish Masonic families are also Nazis. And they created Israel because they really want to destroy Jews. Sure.
Here is his article about the "Nazi Jesuits". <http://www.barrychamish.com/article_archive/2003/jul_03.html#July%2012>
Do these Jesuits have so much control over the media of Europe, Australia, and America that they can suppress those of us who expose them? If not, they cannot be said to be in control.
The Black Pup
Daryl Smith has decided to admit that his dog brought the WTC towers down. This evil dog is a British Jewish Nazi Freemason whose ultimate goal is....
Recent photograph of the Black Pup as he formulates his dastardly plans for world conquest.
Please ladies and gentlemen,
Watch out for the deception!
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war <http://www.la.unm.edu/~ann/quotes.html> ."
There is only one explanation for 9-11 and our current wars. All of the evidence points to this being a Zionist power grab.
Only the Zionists have the organization, motivation, technical skills, and financial backing to risk and execute such a phenomenal crime.
And only the Zionists have enough control of the media to cover up such a phenomenal crime.
All of the people who fall for this tripe about Black Popes and Jesuits should be told to pull their head out of that dark place.
Any journalist, author, government official, or web site that promotes this Black Pope nonsense is bought and paid for. Nobody is stupid enough to believe accusations that have zero supporting evidence.
It is time everybody warned their friends,
"Watch out for Sherman Skolnick, Barry Chamish, and other Truth Tellers who promote unsupported, vague, and confusing accusations, such as this crap about the Black Pope. Look for serious analyses.
Some of what these liars say is true, but their lies will hurt more than their truth helps."
Follow the Money
Specifically, the flow of money into the banking families, and the billion dollar per year river of money from Europe and America into Israel.
Don't become one of their useful idiots. Take a look at who -- and which nation -- has been benefiting from the wars, suffering, and hate crimes.
It ain't difficult to figure out the real masterminds of this misery. We may not know many of their names, but we know they are the people who control our banking system, our media, our military, and Israel.
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Message 2
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 9:51am(PDT)
Subject: Fw: Zionism and Judaism and 9-11
There is the Rabbi Weise view of Zionism and the Dov Zakheim vkind of
Zionism (which says that 9-11-type black-ops against goys for Israel's
security are OK) Antoky is a Zakheim Zionist or I'm Mother Theresa.
Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
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From: "mann david" <dmann51@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Zionism and Judaism
Well put.
--- Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but I'm
> catching up on old e-mails and I became very curious
> about something after reading Mr. Antoky's
> description of Zionism, because it directly
> contradicts what Rabbi Weiss says about Jews
> returning to the homeland.
> According to the Rabbi, Jews are forbidden to
> migrate back to the homeland until led there by the
> messiah, and anything they do in order to bring
> about such a migration is rebellion against God, and
> I think that would include "rising up against those
> who would attempt to destroy you or prevent you from
> achieving your legitimate objective," because he
> also states that Jews are to live in peace and are
> not to rebel against any government that hosts them.
> You can download Rabbi Weiss' explanation of zionism
> at www.iamthewitness.com
> Maybe this is a mere difference of religious
> opinion, but the Neutrei Karta organization
> (nkusa.org) seems very adamant about it.
> Jolly Roger -- goy from Brooklyn
>
> also -- Angie shouldn't be banned. She's one of
> the original owners of this group, but she shouldn't
> be censoring discussion unless it's blatantly
> offensive, either. I don't think there's any reason
> that religion can't be discussed in an intelligent
> manner, and since there is an Israeli connection to
> 9-11, it's on topic, and should be discussed in the
> interest of educating the people who lead this
> movement because I believe they have some
> responsibility for preventing any backlash of
> anti-semitism that might be born out of knowledge
> that Israel was involved.
> When the average redneck discovers the knowledge
> of the "dancing Israelis," he's likely to jump to
> the ridiculous assumption that "the Jews did 9-11,"
> because no one I've seen that exposes the dancing
> Israelis, takes the time to differentiate between
> the state of Israel, and the Jewish people. It's
> just another aspect of the truth that we have to get
> straightened out, and since the Jewish people have
> suffered greatly due to zionist's ambitions in the
> past, we have to deal with this aspect of 9-11 truth
> intelligently, to prevent any misplaced anger. I
> would be very ashamed to be a part of this movement
> if it resulted in a wave of racist anti-semitism,
> and I think a little bit of knowledge can prevent
> that.
>
>
> Ray Antoky <rayantoky@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Regarding the flap over Eastman and Angie.
> First of all I happen to be Jewish born, raised in
> an observant
> family, and do attend services regularly and enjoy
> and practice
> Judaism.
>
> For many outsiders and non practicing Jews such as
> Mark Bilk, Judaism
> is some incomprehensible black hole. From the
> inside, one attempts to
> develop a relationship with the creator based on the
> words of the
> scriptures and the commentaries. While Jews have met
> with and earned
> great success throughout the ages they have also
> suffered greatly,
> due to non-adherence to the tenets of our creed, so
> the explanation
> is given.
> Religious Jews always yearn for the return to Zion
> which would be the
> reinstatement of a Jewish theocratic state
> charcterized with the
> rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem and the coming
> of the Messiah
> (Mashiach). It has not happened. Jews are still in
> exile, even those
> living in the land where this redemption should take
> place. True
> Zionism is merely yearning for this redemption to
> take place. Rising
> up against those who would attempt to destroy you or
> prevent you from
> achieving your legitimate objective is required. Non
> practicing Jews
> whose motivation is unenlightened cannot represent
> those who
> understand that salvation and reinstatement into a
> homeland of peace
> cannot happen unless the nation of Jews is deemed
> worthy. If certain
> Jews happen to come to a type of position of power
> and influence and
> use that power to wreak havoc in the world certainly
> does not entitle
> them to be called Zionists. Kissinger is a Jew. Is
> he a Zionist? Is
> Wolfowitz a Zionist because he is a neocon? Are the
> Jewish members of
> the CFR whose agenda is unsanitary considered
> Zionists because of
> their Jewish roots?
> Too much merging is going on.
> As we can see from the ugly events that always seem
> to come to pass
> in the world, mankind has a war with its evil
> inclination. True
> Judaism encourages the conquering of that
> inclination.
> Zionism is merely an intrinsic part of Judaism which
> cannot be
> separated. You cannot be a true Zionist without full
> acceptance of
> the Truth of all the commandments of the Torah and
> its commentaries.
> This requires study and doing the research just like
> Charlie
> Sheen 'did the research'on 9/11. Anyone else
> claiming to be a Zionist
> is an imposter and anyone separating Zionism from
> Judaism does not
> understand either term. True Zionism is intrinsic to
> Judaism, like it
> or not.
>
> Ray Antoky
> Bklyn
>
> PS:If Eastman is 'allowed back in' Angie certainly
> is 'worthy' of
> reinstatement.
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Message 3
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 9:57am(PDT)
Subject: Re: who on the internet am I thankful for -- endorsing the worthy
Good positive project guys. It is great to see some positive stuff rather
than just mentioning who isn�����t to be trusted in each persons personal
opinion.
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[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jolly Roger
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:10 AM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] who on the internet am I thankful for --
endorsing the worthy -- let's see your list
For being listed among the trustworthy by two respected members of this
movement that is riddled with spies, I am honored more than either of you
can know.
Thank you Mr. Hammond and Mr. Eastman.
Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:
Kevin,
All good ones.
And now I have a better idea of who/what you are. "Birds of a
feather..etc."
Dick
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From: Kevin Hammond <mailto:sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com <mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] who on the internet am I thankful for --
endorsing the worthy -- let's see your list
Don Paul, Jim hoffman, Alex jones. globalresearch.ca conspiracyarchive.com
and many others that I dont have time to name at the moment. Oh yeah one
more and one of the MEN that have inspired me the MOST are none other than
My dear friend and BROTHER that I have not yet met in person, Mr. JOLLY
ROGER.
Dick Eastman < olfriend@nwinfo.net <mailto:olfriend@nwinfo.net> > wrote:
start a new group on 9-11 and the first discussants to show up talk about
"reptilians" and their victimhood of mind control and what they were told by
their controllers about Cheney's sex life" , if the list survives, you can
expect the "pod" people and the "no-planes" posters to show up next -- you
know the story
but wait a minute-- let's count our blessings -- I've got several
here are mine off the top of my head:
Positive side -- who do I trust most on the internet? These are the real
thing -- I bet the farm on these people coming through every time:
J. Austin and Jolly Roger, Richard Pierce, Peter Meyers, Henry Makow, Guy
Heron, Peter Wakefield Sault, Carol Valentine, Joost van Stennis, Michale
Chossudovsky, Wayne Blanchard, DuneButts, APFN Ken Vard_n, Alex Jones
Personal friend humanitarian objective good hearted guy who differs with me
on many many things: Mark S. Bilk.
Honorable mention: , Brad M, Longspaugh, Key Dewdney, David K Griffen,
Tom Ascher, Kaminski, E Steele, Vicky Davis, V Thorn, Lisa Guliani, Barry
Chamish, Yaacov Ben Shmuel,Tom Valentine, Christopher Bollyn, Jacques Hardy,
Peter Rogers
Mixed bag: Sean McBride, Jeff Rense, Skolnick, Rivero, Lori Price, Morgan
Reynolds, Larry Lawson
RIP Giants: Boudewijn Wegerif, Brian Quig, Harry Browne
Now, don't critique my list -- show us yours!!! Whom do you trust? WHo is
putting out what you think is on-target for these dark times.
Endorse the worthy.
Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
Every man is responsible to every other man.
p.s. My brain is old -- I have known many great internet discussants in
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Message 4
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 10:54am(PDT)
Subject: Justin Raimondo: The case against intervention (Dafur etc.)
"What About Darfur?"
The case against intervention
by Justin Raimondo
Whenever I speak on campus, I always get the "But what about Darfur?" question. This usually comes in tandem with the inevitable Holocaust question, which goes something like this: "Yes, I agree with your opposition to the Iraq war, and your anti-interventionist sentiments in general, but what about our moral responsibility to prevent another Holocaust?" This is usually accompanied by a paean to "the good war," i.e., World War II, and the assertion that "of course" we had to intervene (and not just because of Pearl Harbor).
I will spare the reader my detailed answer to enthusiasts of "the good war," except to say that if we hadn't intervened in World War II at precisely the moment Hitler turned on Stalin, the likelihood of the two totalitarian monsters destroying each other is a bit more than mere speculation. I will also note that the Holocaust, far from being prevented by World War II, was instead hastened and accelerated by the conflict.
American intervention in the European war had nothing to do with the Holocaust, did nothing to prevent it, and may have worsened it.
In any case, to get back to the case of Darfur: my questioner, I should point out, is usually not some warmongering neocon, but the most well-meaning of all lefties, who is savagely critical of the neoconservative agenda of "democratizing" the Middle East at gunpoint, but, when it comes to Darfur, all discernment, all the lessons of the past, are thrown out the window, and emotions take over. It is like an alcoholic, who, after a long abstinence, quaffs a bit of wine, or has half a beer: after just a little sip, all caution is abandoned, and they find him the next day, passed out in the street.
Darfur, where as many as 300,000 may have been killed, has become an international cause c����l����bre and rallying cry for the internationalist liberals, the kind who pride themselves on having a conscience and who constantly invoke the tragedy of Darfur as a potential model for "humanitarian intervention." They think that they are different from the neocons in kind because they advocate intervention for a "good" cause, because they are motivated by kindness, benevolence, and all those other liberal internationalist virtues that make them such so much better people than Richard Perle and Bill Kristol.
This shows that whatever foreign policy debate occurs in this country is not about the policy ����� almost no one questions the wisdom and absolute necessity of global interventionism �����
but about motivation: President Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, and Condi Rice care about oil, money, Israel, and self-glorification, not necessarily in that order. We care about helping poor blacks, stopping genocide, and dispensing American treasure to the underprivileged albeit deserving peoples of the Third World.
To get a little perspective on this, let's look at what the invaluable John Laughland, a writer and longtime observer of the War Party, has to say:
"The Darfur crisis is following a pattern which is so well-worn now that it has almost become routine. Saturation reporting from a crisis region; emergency calls for help broadcast on the electronic media (such as the one recently on the BBC Radio 4 flagship 'Today' programme);
televised pictures of refugees; lurid stories of 'mass rapes', which are surely designed to titillate as much to provoke outrage; reproachful evocations of the Rwandan genocide; demands that something must be done ('How can we stand idly by?', etc.); editorials in the Daily Telegraph calling for a return to the days of Rudyard Kipling's benevolent imperialism; and, finally, the announcement that plans are indeed being drawn up for an intervention."
Writing in 2004, Laughland averred that Western intervention is "inevitable," and it looks like he was right on the money. The Washington Post carried a story, prominently featured in the Sunday edition, about the "growing outcry" to "do something" about Sudan:
"Massive 'Stop Genocide' rallies are planned on the Mall and across the nation today to urge the Bush administration to take stronger action to end the violence in Sudan's Darfur region. Thousands of people are expected to converge on Washington, including 240 busloads of activists from 41 states, local and national politicians and such celebrity speakers as actor George Clooney, Holocaust survivor and author Elie Wiesel, and Olympic speed skater Joey Cheek."
While early reports of plans for the demonstration reported an expected turnout of 100,000-plus, the rally permit obtained by the "Save Darfur Coalition" estimated 10,000-15,000, and the actual numbers were far less. Reuters generously reported "several thousands," but, never mind that: the sparse numbers were magnified by the star power of the celebrity speakers. Piggybacking on titans of Hollywood and the world of sports like Clooney and Cheek, Democratic party bigwigs �����
including Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California ����� sought to extract political benefits from this supposedly spontaneous upsurge of interventionist sentiment.
That, only a few days before, Osama bin Laden had made Sudan the focus of another of his tirades against the West �����
warning the Muslim world that Darfur would be the next entry point for the "Crusader-Zionists" ����� was surely a coincidence, albeit an enormously convenient one for the motley collection of liberal do-gooders, Hollywood glamour-pusses, and Christian zealots who make up the "Save Darfur Coalition." President Bush was glad to endorse the rally: "For those of you who are going out to march for justice, you represent the best of our country," Bush said at a meeting with persons described as "Darfur advocates" in news reports.
Before we send tens of thousands more American troops into a very troubled region of the world, let us examine what these "Darfur advocates" are advocating. Both Tony Blair and retired U.S. general Wesley Clark have argued in favor of intervention, raising the "successful" war and occupation in Kosovo as a model. That was one war we didn't hear much about from the great mass of present-day "antiwar" protesters, who apparently thought that attacking a country that represented no threat to the U.S. and had never attacked us was okay, so long as it was done by a Democratic president. By going into Darfur under the rubric of "humanitarianism," the War Party can sell to anti-Bush liberals the idea of opening up another front in the Muslim world.
More- http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=8922
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Message 5
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 11:09am(PDT)
Subject: What freedom of thought? -- The Political Taboos that Zionist J-ws
From: John Churchilly
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May 1, 2006
The Taboos that Ashkenazi have Imposed upon Americans.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/togethernet/message/21783
Prior to the 1960s there were taboos in america,
as in many other western countries, against
discussing a range of social/private issues such
as homosexuality, incest, male rape, etc, etc.
Since those days these taboos have virtually disappeared
and today nobody would think twice about discussing
such issues. The only taboos in america these days
concern jewish power. The same is also true in other
western countries suggesting that the same political
forces are at work throughout the western world. America's
jewish elite, jewish dominated universities, the jewish
domination of the american media, jewish think tanks,
and the jewish owned political system, have succeeded
in establishing taboos over anything to do with jews.
These taboos are promoted and used deliberately to
protect and enhance jewish power in america and the
western world. There is a taboo about jewish funding
of american political parties (just as in britain). There
is a taboo over the influence of the jol in america.
There is even a taboo about mentioning the existence
of the jol. There is a taboo about jewish ownership of
the american media. There is a taboo about the tribute
payments that america makes to its jewish masters in
the jos. There is a taboo about jewish power in any
country around the world. There is a taboo about russia's
jewish oligarchs' take over of the russian economic and
political systems in the 1990's. There are even taboos
against the use of the words 'jew' or 'jewish'.
Americans are not permitted to talk about Jews Such
is the domination of america's ruling jewish elite that it
has made the word 'jew' a taboo. It is quite common
for the jewish dominated media to refer to an individual
as being 'black' or 'hispanic' or 'gay' or lesbian' or to
indicate their age or to describe them as being tall or
short or good/bad looking, but the one exception is
that, as always, it is not possible to describe anyone
as a jew. It is not possible to describe jewish hollywood
actors as american jews. To indicate that a jewish
hollywood actor is an american jew is deemed to be
anti-semitic and racist. Americans not permitted to
talk about the Influence of the Jol. The jol celebrates
its achievements in manipulating the american political
system but it denounces anyone else who points this out.
Americans not permitted to mention the Jol The same
point is true as regards the use of the phrase 'the jewish
lobby' or 'the israeli lobby'. Despite the fact that the
media in the jos uses these phrases, the jol denounces
anyone else for using them as a racist and anti-semite.
"In fact, anyone who says that there is an Israel Lobby
runs the risk of being charged with anti-Semitism, even
though the Israeli media themselves refer to America's
"Jewish Lobby." In effect, the Lobby boasts of its own
power and then attacks anyone who calls attention to it."
(John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel
Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy' rwp_06_011_walt.pdf
March 2006 p.24); "By the way, American guests in
Israel, who know that at home it is forbidden to mention
the influence of the Jewish-Israeli lobby, are dumbfounded
to see that here the lobby does not hide its power in
Washington but openly boasts of it." (Uri Avnery 'Who's
the dog? Who's the tail?'
http://world.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/29562
April 22 2006); "Americans are gradually being
indoctrinated to believe Islamists are today's Nazis
and that there is no "Israeli lobby" in America."
(Mike Scheuer 'Does Israel Conduct Covert Action in
America?'
http://www.antiwar.com/scheuer/?articleid=8827
April 8, 2006). One commentator entitled an article
'There is no Israel 'Lobby'' (David Gergen
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ideas_opinions/v-pfriendly/story/402910p-341257c.html
March 26th, 2006). Once again, this jewish taboo
does not exist solely in america. It also infects britain,
"A senior US diplomat in London has ruffled feathers
in Britain's foreign policy establishment by publicly
implying that a reference to the "Jewish lobby" in
the United States is an anti-Semitic remark." The
incident happened yesterday at a Royal Institute of
International Affairs (RIIA) lecture on US foreign policy
given by David Johnson, who is the second in command
at the American embassy in London. During the
question-and-answer session he was asked: "Will the US
ever be willing to impose an equitable peace settlement
in the Middle East, or is it perhaps that the Jewish lobby
in America is too strong to make that feasible?" Mr Johnson
responded indignantly, saying: "I am highly resentful of
the last part of your remarks, just because of its ethnic
slur." And he went on: "During my time here I have become
increasingly troubled by the willingness of European
audiences to skirt up to the side of anti-Semitic language
as a political criticism." (Mary Dejevsky ''Jewish lobby'
is an anti-Semitic term, says US diplomat'
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=483856
January 23rd 2004). Americans not permitted to talk about Aipac
"The myth of "war for oil" is circulated by almost all the
major progressive Jewish intellectuals and parroted by their
Gentile followers, who are in word and deed prohibited from
mentioning the AIPAC word in any public meetings or
manifestos." (James Petras 'The Ascendancy of Finance
Capital: Record Profits and Rising Authoritarianism -
March 28, 2006). Americans cannot talk about the Jos's
Nuclear Weapons Such is the power of the global jewish
empire that it has prevented the american government from
formally recognizing the existence of the jos's nuclear
weapons, "The U.S. government has never acknowledged
that Israel possesses nuclear weapons, even though the
world knows otherwise, thanks to the whistleblower,
Mordechai Vanunu. (London Sunday Times, Oct. 5, 1986)."
(Mark Gaffney 'Will Iran Be Next?'
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article3288.htm
May 8th 2003). Jews in america have exploited this
situation to establish a taboo over discussing the issue of
jewish nuclear weapons. However, to repeat a point made
above: such a taboo would not be possible if it wasn't for jewish
neolefties and jewish peaceniks who reinforce the taboo by saying
nothing about the issue. American Politicians cannot criticize
the Jos Although reputed to be the most democratic, and the
most open, political system in the world, jewish taboos have
festered over the decades until they are now able to
prevent american politicians/commentators from criticizing
the jos. "University of Michigan Professor Juan Cole further
writes: Some readers have suggested that I have exaggerated
AIPAC's hold on the US Congress. But I have direct knowledge
of senators and congressmen being afraid to speak out on
Israeli issues because of AIPAC's reputation for targeting
representatives for un-election if they dare do so. And, it is
easy to check. Look in the Congressional record. Is there
ever/any/ speech given on the floor critical of Israeli policy,
given by a senator or representative who goes on to win the
next election? And look at the debates in every other
parliament in the world; there are such criticisms elsewhere.
The US Congress is being held hostage by a single-issue
lobbying organization that often puts Israeli interests above
US interests..."" (Quoted in Jeffrey Blankfort 'Damage
Control: Noam Chomsky and the Israel-Palestine Conflict
- April 2005); "Congress, they (M/W) point out, virtually
never criticizes Israel: It is an untouchable subject. And
this taboo has had enormous consequences, which are
themselves off limits for discussion. Above all, they seek
to end the taboo, enforced by knee-jerk accusations of
anti-Semitism, that has prevented a full and open discussion
of these issues." (Juan Cole 'Breaking the silence'
http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/fuj/salon5.htm
Apr. 18, 2006); "The Congress, the Executive branch, state
and local governments, and national and local media have
all come under the influence of the Jewish "lobby's" pro-Israel
agenda to the point that none or few dare to criticize Israel or
its US representatives." (James Petras 'The meaning of war:
A heterodox perspective'
http://www.rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=12606 January 2005);
"One must also ask why is it always possible to criticize a
US president on the floor of Congress but never an Israeli
prime minister?" (Jeffrey Blankfort's comments on Mitchell
Plitnick's 'Myth and Reality: Jewish Influence on US Middle
East Policy' May 24th 2005); "A key pillar of the Lobby's
effectiveness is its influence in the U.S. Congress, where
Israel is virtually immune from criticism. This is in itself a
remarkable situation, because Congress almost never shies
away from contentious issues. Whether the issue is abortion,
affirmative action, health care, or welfare, there is certain to
be a lively debate on Capitol Hill.
Where Israel is concerned, however, potential critics fall
silent and there is hardly any debate at all."
(John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel
Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy' rwp_06_011_walt.pdf
March 2006 p.17); "Although criticism of specific Israeli
policies is permissible in the United States, it is more or
less forbidden to express fundamental criticism of the
Zionist state, of America's basic policy of support for Israel,
or of the Jewish-Zionist grip on the US media or America's
political and academic life. (Remarkably, this is in contrast
to the situation in Israel itself, where Jews and even Arab
citizens of the Zionist state have much greater freedom than
Americans publicly to criticize Zionism and Israeli policies.)
Prominent persons who dare to violate this prohibition are
immediately castigated as "anti-Semitic" (that is, anti-Jewish),
and pay a heavy price in damage to their reputations or
careers. Politicians who publicly speak out against America's
support for Zionism risk almost certain political ruin."
(Abdullah Mohammad Sindi 'How the Jewish-Zionist Grip on
American Film and Television Promotes Bias Against Arabs
and Muslims' Institute for Historical Review
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n5p-2_Sindi.html c1999).
Americans cannot be allowed to discover the Jos's Racist
Treatment of Palestinians. There is a taboo over jewish racism
in the jos. "With their allegations of anti-Semitism, American-Jewish
elites seek, above all, to convince everybody that critics of Israel are
really anti-Semites in disguise. Reports on what it is like for
Palestinians to live under occupation, reports on their oppression
and their suffering must remain taboo - only Israel is entitled to
victim status. Thus reality is being inverted, in order to make sure
that Israel enjoys immunity."
(Felicia Langer 'Preface to the German edition of Beyond
Chutzpah' March 27 2006). Americans cannot criticize Jos
in the Jewish Media. .. "but anything more than the mildest
criticism of Israel is taboo in the mainstream media." (Michael
Lind 'The Israel Lobby' April 1, 2002). Americans cannot talk
about Jewish Political Power. There is also a jewish taboo
against discussing jewish political power. Ralph nader was one
of the few to break this taboo, "The subservience of our
congressional and White House puppets to Israeli military
policy has been consistent. They're almost all puppets. There
are two sets: Congressional puppets and White House puppets.
When the chief puppeteer (Sharon) comes to Washington, the
puppets prance." (Pat Buchanan 'Ralph Nader: Conservatively
Speaking' The American Conservative
http://www.amconmag.com/2004_06_21/cover.html June
21, 2004). Nader never repeated this statement or elaborated
upon it or sought to use it as the basis for policies to counter
such distortions of political power. Perhaps the reason
for this is that nobody came to his defence when the jol
accused him of anti-semitism. It has been dumped quietly
into the dustbin of history. Carbonomics is a global Carbon
audit of the Earth's Carbon spiral which can be used to determine
countries' Carbon status. It can also be used to formulate a
global Carbon budget to stabilize the Earth's climate. The Earth's
Carbon spiral is used to develop a geocentric philosophy and
politics - thus putting the Earth First!
http:www.geocities.com/carbonomics/index.html __________________________________________________
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Message 6
From: "Richard Pierce" phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 11:49am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Zionism and Judaism
I believe you are correct here. Jews are not supposed to have a homeland of their own until there is peace on earth, Christ comes and especially not by force. All 3 covenants are being broken by the zionists.
Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote: I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but I'm catching up on old e-mails and I became very curious about something after reading Mr. Antoky's description of Zionism, because it directly contradicts what Rabbi Weiss says about Jews returning to the homeland.
According to the Rabbi, Jews are forbidden to migrate back to the homeland until led there by the messiah, and anything they do in order to bring about such a migration is rebellion against God, and I think that would include "rising up against those who would attempt to destroy you or prevent you from achieving your legitimate objective," because he also states that Jews are to live in peace and are not to rebel against any government that hosts them. You can download Rabbi Weiss' explanation of zionism at www.iamthewitness.com
Maybe this is a mere difference of religious opinion, but the Neutrei Karta organization (nkusa.org) seems very adamant about it.
Jolly Roger -- goy from Brooklyn
also -- Angie shouldn't be banned. She's one of the original owners of this group, but she shouldn't be censoring discussion unless it's blatantly offensive, either. I don't think there's any reason that religion can't be discussed in an intelligent manner, and since there is an Israeli connection to 9-11, it's on topic, and should be discussed in the interest of educating the people who lead this movement because I believe they have some responsibility for preventing any backlash of anti-semitism that might be born out of knowledge that Israel was involved.
When the average redneck discovers the knowledge of the "dancing Israelis," he's likely to jump to the ridiculous assumption that "the Jews did 9-11," because no one I've seen that exposes the dancing Israelis, takes the time to differentiate between the state of Israel, and the Jewish people. It's just another aspect of the truth that we have to get straightened out, and since the Jewish people have suffered greatly due to zionist's ambitions in the past, we have to deal with this aspect of 9-11 truth intelligently, to prevent any misplaced anger. I would be very ashamed to be a part of this movement if it resulted in a wave of racist anti-semitism, and I think a little bit of knowledge can prevent that.
Ray Antoky <rayantoky@aol.com> wrote:
Regarding the flap over Eastman and Angie.
First of all I happen to be Jewish born, raised in an observant
family, and do attend services regularly and enjoy and practice
Judaism.
For many outsiders and non practicing Jews such as Mark Bilk, Judaism
is some incomprehensible black hole. From the inside, one attempts to
develop a relationship with the creator based on the words of the
scriptures and the commentaries. While Jews have met with and earned
great success throughout the ages they have also suffered greatly,
due to non-adherence to the tenets of our creed, so the explanation
is given.
Religious Jews always yearn for the return to Zion which would be the
reinstatement of a Jewish theocratic state charcterized with the
rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem and the coming of the Messiah
(Mashiach). It has not happened. Jews are still in exile, even those
living in the land where this redemption should take place. True
Zionism is merely yearning for this redemption to take place. Rising
up against those who would attempt to destroy you or prevent you from
achieving your legitimate objective is required. Non practicing Jews
whose motivation is unenlightened cannot represent those who
understand that salvation and reinstatement into a homeland of peace
cannot happen unless the nation of Jews is deemed worthy. If certain
Jews happen to come to a type of position of power and influence and
use that power to wreak havoc in the world certainly does not entitle
them to be called Zionists. Kissinger is a Jew. Is he a Zionist? Is
Wolfowitz a Zionist because he is a neocon? Are the Jewish members of
the CFR whose agenda is unsanitary considered Zionists because of
their Jewish roots?
Too much merging is going on.
As we can see from the ugly events that always seem to come to pass
in the world, mankind has a war with its evil inclination. True
Judaism encourages the conquering of that inclination.
Zionism is merely an intrinsic part of Judaism which cannot be
separated. You cannot be a true Zionist without full acceptance of
the Truth of all the commandments of the Torah and its commentaries.
This requires study and doing the research just like Charlie
Sheen 'did the research'on 9/11. Anyone else claiming to be a Zionist
is an imposter and anyone separating Zionism from Judaism does not
understand either term. True Zionism is intrinsic to Judaism, like it
or not.
Ray Antoky
Bklyn
PS:If Eastman is 'allowed back in' Angie certainly is 'worthy' of
reinstatement.
"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken
http://www.fightthenwo.org/
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Message 7
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 0:42pm(PDT)
Subject: My Fax to the Lawbreaker President
From: xmjmac My Fax to the Lawbreaker President
To President Bush,
May 1, 2006
I first want to wish you a Happy Immigrants Labor Day where human beings
are being targeted in this country. They are after all the scape goats
to distract what is really wrong with this country and that is your
presidency. Who are we to label any of them as being illegal when one
reads that you can decide to break the law?
I was just reading an article that states: "President Bush has
quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted
since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any
statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of
the Constitution." I want to remind you that no one is above the
law and gets to break any law in this nation and that includes
presidents. We all saw what it did to the late President Nixon who had
at least the integrity to resign the office. Your sole interpretation
of the Constitution does not deem any action taken by you as being
legal. After all that Constitution is all of ours to uphold and a
sacred document in which patriot blood was spilled and continues to be
spilled upholding all the amendments contained within it.
I have taught my children that it is wrong to break any law, so if they
read of you breaking the law: What am I to tell them given the fact that
you have broken the law repeatedly: Do I tell them that it is okay to
use drugs, drink before the age of 21, and carry a loaded handgun to
school assault and possibly kill others? Do I tell them that it is okay
for them to break into people's homes and take what they want? What
a fine and upstanding president you turned out to be and I mean that
sarcastically. You are no child's moral compass and through these
illegal actions, you again have left many children behind.
Since you have chosen to break the law: Do we start freeing prisoners
from the prisons that now hold them? Do we stop prosecuting those who
have broken the law? How about the death row inmates? At one time you
were the governor of the state that held the record on executions. Do
we now set them free?
In closing, this country would fall into an anarchist state if anyone
were allowed to break the law. I sure hope that congress remedies this
when the Democrats take back control of both houses and where Senator
Byrd stated of any possible impeachment: "Congress retains all its
original powers under the Constitution.. You better read that again in
the Constitution" and where he reminded you of the Senate powers
which include, "serving as a court of impeachment." But, here is
my favorite message sent to you by Senator Byrd: "You better believe
it, Mr. President.The Senate can send you home. You better believe
that."
Mary MacElveen
Circulated around the Internet
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Message 8
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 0:47pm(PDT)
Subject: AFL-CIO Now: May Day Edition
AFL-CIO Now, 5/1/06From: Working Families e-Activist Network
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:02 AM
Subject: AFL-CIO Now: May Day Edition
May 1, 2006
Here are some of the latest headlines from AFL-CIO Now, the daily news blog that's all about working people and unions. Be sure to check the blog every day for new stories.
Celebrating May Day
On the 120th anniversary of rallies for the eight-hour workday, immigrant workers continue the fight for their rights.
Read the full story....
Lack of Oxygen and Communication Killed Sago Miners-Families 'Deserved Better'
Mine Workers president says withdrawal of federal rules, close industry ties to safety agency put miners in danger.
Read the full story....
Job Death Rate Up for the First Time in 10 Years
Workplace fatality rate increases in 2004; Bush safety policies cozy with employers.
Read the full story....
Workers Memorial Day 2006
Jobs claim more than 5,700 workers' lives; got to keep fighting for the living.
Read the full story....
Port Security ID Checks Need to Protect Workers, Too
System must balance rights with security concerns.
Read the full story....
Thousands Tell Wal-Mart: Health Care Claims a Sham
New and improved health care? No, just more Wal-Mart spin.
Read the full story....
Rally Shines Light on Pfizer CEO's Greed
Stock tanks as Pfizer fizzles, but CEO's pay sizzles.
Read the full story....
Three More Backers Needed for Bill to Aid Union Formation
House nears co-sponsor majority for card-check legislation.
Read the full story....
Workers Earning $20,000-$40,000 Likely Don't Have the Health Care They Need
Bush says "solution" is for workers to pay more, corporations less.
Read the full story....
On Equal Pay Day, Women Seeing Red
Women in the red with paychecks-still behind by 23 percent.
Read the full story....
Affordable Health Care: Wisconsin Getting Close
Wisconsin plan covers all and shares costs between workers and employers.
Read the full story....
Black Evacuees Disenfranchised in New Orleans Vote
First their homes, now their right to vote lost.
Read the full story....
Former UAW Member in Tough Primary Fight in Ohio
Republican big bucks attack candidate-in Democratic primary.
Read the full story....
Read more important news of the day on the issues working families care about on AFL-CIO Now.
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Message 9
From: "Neo Mulder" neomulder1@yahoo.com
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 2:08pm(PDT)
Subject: Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse? By Steven E. Jones-Brigha
The WTC towers were solidly constructed with 47 steel core
columns and 240 perimeter steel columns. 287 steel-columns total.
Many doubt that random fires/damage could cause them to
collapse straight down (official theory), and suspect explosives
.
Steel-frame: Huge core (left) is an enormous heat sink. Notice workers standing on floor pan which is
firmly attached to the interconnected core columns.
Top ~ 30 floors of South Tower topple over.
What happens to the block and its angular momentum?
Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?
Prof. Jones is an invited speaker at an upcoming conference on this subject:
�����9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future�����An International Education and Strategy Conference.�����
It will be held at the Embassy Suites Hotel Chicago-O'Hare Rosemont, June 2-4, 2006.
DRAFT 5.9
The views in this paper are the sole responsibility of the author (not Brigham Young University).
The paper (below) has undergone modifications and a second set of peer reviews and has been accepted for publication in a volume edited by David Ray Griffin and Peter Dale Scott.
Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?
By Steven E. Jones
Department of Physics and Astronomy
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
ABSTRACT
In this paper, I call for a serious investigation of the hypothesis that WTC 7 and the Twin Towers were brought down, not just by impact damage and fires, but through the use of pre-positioned cutter-charges. I consider the official FEMA, NIST, and 9-11 Commission reports that fires plus impact damage alone caused complete collapses of all three buildings. And I present evidence for the controlled-demolition hypothesis, which is suggested by the available data, testable and falsifiable, and yet has not been analyzed in any of the reports funded by the US government.
Introduction
We start with the fact that large quantities of molten metal were observed in basement areas under rubble piles of all three buildings: the Twin Towers and WTC7. A video clip provides eye-witness evidence regarding this metal at ground zero:
http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/video%20archive/red_hot_ground_zero_low_quality.wmv .
The photograph below by Frank Silecchia shows a chunk of the hot metal being removed from the North Tower rubble about eight weeks after 9-11. Notice the color of the lower portion of the extracted metal -- this tells us much about the temperature of the metal and provides important clues regarding its composition, as we shall see.
See URL- http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
Snip- Mr. Miller captured two ladder-like structures in his photograph (lower left of the right-most photograph above; a cleaner photo is being sought), consistent with steel structures observed in the core of WTC 1. Observe the grayish-white plumes trailing upward from white "blobs" at the left-most extremities of the upper structure. (The lower structure is mostly obscured by dust.) It is possible that thermite cut through structural steel and that what we now observe is white-hot iron from the reaction adhering to the severed ends of the steel, with grayish-white aluminum oxide still streaming away from the reaction sites. The observations are consistent with the use of thermite or one of its variants. However, further analysis of this and additional photographs from the series is necessary before any firm conclusions can be drawn about this line of evidence.
Dramatic footage reveals yellow-to-white hot molten metal dripping from the South WTC Tower shortly before its collapse: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2991254740145858863&q=cameraplanet+9%2F11.
Snip
Next, as a basis for discussion, I invite you to consider the collapse of the 47-story WTC 7, which was never hit by a jet. Here is the building prior to and on September 11, 2001:
WTC 7: 47 - Story, steel-frame building..
WTC 7 on afternoon of 9-11-01. WTC 7 is the tall
sky-scraper in the background, right. Seen from WTC plaza area.
WTC 7 collapsed completely, onto its own footprint
Now that you have seen the still photographs, it is important to the discussion which follows for you to observe video clips of the collapse of this building, so go to: http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
Click on the three photos at the top of this web-site page in order to see the videos of the collapse of WTC 7. It helps to have sound.
Then consider a video close-up of the same building, SW corner, as this corner begins its steady drop to the ground:
http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/Flashes/squibs_along_southwest_corner.htm
What did you observe?
Symmetry: did the building collapse straight down (nearly symmetrically) ����� or did it topple over?
Speed: How fast did the southwest corner of the roof fall? (Students and I measure [6.5 +- 0.2] seconds; time it!)
Smoke/debris-jets: Did you observe puffs of smoke/debris coming out of the building? Please note for yourself the sequence and fast timing of observed puffs or �����squibs.����� Note that reference to web pages is used in this paper due largely to the importance of viewing motion picture clips, thus enhancing consideration of the laws of motion and physics generally. High-quality photographs showing details of the collapses of WTC 7 and the WTC Towers can be found in books (Hufschmid, 2002; Paul and Hoffman, 2004), magazines (Hoffman, 2005; Baker, 2005) and at http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/collapses.html .
On the basis of photographic and video evidence as well as related data and analyses, I provide thirteen reasons for rejecting the official hypothesis, according to which fire and impact damage caused the collapse of the Twin Towers and WTC 7, in favor of the controlled-demolition hypothesis. The goal is to promote further scrutiny of the official government-sponsored reports as well as serious investigation of the controlled-demolition hypothesis. (No rebuttal of my argument can be complete, of course, unless it addresses all of these points.)
Thirteen Reasons to Challenge Government-sponsored Reports and Investigate the Controlled-demolition Hypothesis
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1. Molten Metal: Flowing and in Pools
There are several published observations of molten metal in the basements of all three buildings, WTC 1, 2 (�����Twin Towers�����) and 7. For example, Dr. Keith Eaton toured Ground Zero and stated in The Structural Engineer,
�����They showed us many fascinating slides����� [Eaton] continued, �����ranging from molten metal which was still red hot weeks after the event, to 4-inch thick steel plates sheared and bent in the disaster�����. (Structural Engineer, September 3, 2002, p. 6; emphasis added.)
The observation of molten metal at Ground Zero was emphasized publicly by Leslie Robertson, the structural engineer responsible for the design of the World Trade Center Towers, who reported that �����As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running.����� (Williams, 2001, p. 3; emphasis added.)
Sarah Atlas was part of New Jersey's Task Force One Urban Search and Rescue and was one of the first on the scene at Ground Zero with her canine partner Anna. She reported in Penn Arts and Sciences, summer 2002,
�����Nobody's going to be alive.' Fires burned and molten steel flowed in the pile of ruins still settling beneath her feet. (Penn, 2002; emphasis added.)
Notice that the molten metal was flowing down in the rubble pile early on; so it is not the case that the molten metal pools formed due to subterranean fires after the collapses. Dr. Allison Geyh was one of a team of public health investigators from Johns Hopkins who visited the WTC site after 9-11. She reported in the Late Fall 2001 issue of Magazine of Johns Hopkins Public Health, "In some pockets now being uncovered they are finding molten steel.�����
A video clip provides eye-witness evidence regarding this metal at ground zero: http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/video%20archive/red_hot_ground_zero_low_quality.wmv .
The observer notes that the observed surface of this metal is still reddish-orange some six weeks after 9-11. This implies a large quantity of a metal with fairly low heat conductivity and a relatively large heat capacity (e.g., iron is more likely than aluminum) even in an underground location. Like magma in a volcanic cone, such metal might remain hot and molten for a long time --
once the metal is sufficiently hot to melt in large quantities and then kept in a fairly-well insulated underground location. Moreover, as hypothesized below, thermite reactions may have resulted in substantial quantities (observed in pools) of molten iron at very high temperatures ����� initially above 2,000 ����C (3,632 ����F).
At these temperatures, aluminum materials from the buildings should continue to undergo exothermic oxidation reactions with materials also entrained in the molten metal pools including metal oxides, which will then keep the pools molten and even growing for weeks despite radiative and conductive losses.
Thus, molten metal was repeatedly observed and formally reported in the rubble piles of the WTC Towers and WTC 7, metal that looked like molten steel or perhaps iron. Scientific analysis would be needed to conclusively ascertain the composition of the molten metal in detail.
I maintain that these observations are consistent with the use of high-temperature cutter-charges such as thermite, HMX or RDX or some combination thereof, routinely used to melt/cut/demolish steel. Thermite is a mixture of iron oxide and aluminum powder. The end products of the thermite reaction are aluminum oxide and molten iron. So the thermite reaction generates molten iron directly, and is hot enough to melt and even evaporate steel which it contacts while reacting. Here is the thermite-reaction equation for a typical mixture of aluminum powder iron oxide powder:
2Al + Fe2O3 = Al2O3 + 2Fe (molten iron), DH = - 853.5 kJ/mole.
Thermite contains its own supply of oxygen and so the reaction cannot be smothered, even with water. Use of sulfur in conjunction with the thermite, for example in thermate, will accelerate the destructive effect on steel, and sulfidation of structural steel was indeed observed in some of the few recovered members from the WTC rubble, as reported in Appendix C of the FEMA report. (FEMA, 2002; see also, http://www.911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/metallurgy/index.html.)
On the other hand, falling buildings (absent incendiaries such as thermite) have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal.
The government reports admit that the building fires were insufficient to melt steel beams --
then where did the molten metal come from? Metals expert Dr. Frank Gayle (working with NIST) stated:
Your gut reaction would be the jet fuel is what made the fire so very intense, a lot of people figured that's what melted the steel. Indeed it did not, the steel did not melt. (Field, 2005; emphasis added.)
None of the official reports tackles this mystery. Yet this is evidently a significant clue to what caused the Towers and WTC 7 to collapse. So an analysis of the composition of the previously-molten metal is required by a qualified scientific panel. This could well become an experiment crucis.
Prof. Thomas Eagar explained in 2001 that the WTC fires would NOT melt steel:
"The fire is the most misunderstood part of the WTC collapse. Even today, the media report (and many scientists believe) that the steel melted. It is argued that the jet fuel burns very hot, especially with so much fuel present. This is not true....
The temperature of the fire at the WTC was not unusual, and it was most definitely not capable of melting steel.
In combustion science, there are three basic types of flames, namely, a jet burner, a pre-mixed flame, and a diffuse flame.... In a diffuse flame, the fuel and the oxidant are not mixed before ignition, but flow together in an uncontrolled manner and combust when the fuel/oxidant ratios reach values within the flammable range. A fireplace is a diffuse flame burning in air, as was the WTC fire. Diffuse flames generate the lowest heat intensities of the three flame types...
The maximum flame temperature increase for burning hydrocarbons (jet fuel) in air is, thus, about 1000 ����C -- hardly sufficient to melt steel at 1500 ����C."
"But it is very difficult to reach [even] this maximum temperature with a diffuse flame. There is nothing to ensure that the fuel and air in a diffuse flame are mixed in the best ratio... This is why the temperatures in a residential fire are usually in the 500 ����C to 650 ����C range [Cote, 1992]. It is known that the WTC fire was a fuel-rich, diffuse flame as evidenced by the copious black smoke....
It is known that structural steel begins to soften around 425 ����C and loses about half of its strength at 650 ����C [Cote, 1992]. This is why steel is stress relieved in this temperature range. But even a 50% loss of strength is still insufficient, by itself, to explain the WTC collapse...
The WTC, on this low-wind day, was likely not stressed more than a third of the design allowable... Even with its strength halved, the steel could still support two to three times the stresses imposed by a 650 ����C fire." (Eagar and Musso, 2001; emphasis added.)
We will return to the question of fire-induced stresses and WTC collapses later.
Even without a direct elemental analysis, we can rule out some metals based on available data. The photograph in the introduction shows a chunk of hot metal being extracted at ground zero. The hottest portion of the chunk is the lower portion, which was deepest down in the slag, and the metal is seen to be yellow-hot, certainly above cherry-red hot. The following table (see
http://www.processassociates.com/process/heat/metcolor.htm ) provides data regarding the melting temperatures of lead, aluminum, structural steel and iron, along with approximate metal temperatures by color. Note that the approximate temperature of a hot metal is given by its color, quite independent of the composition of the metal.
(A notable exception is aluminum, which due to low emissivity and high reflectivity appears silvery-gray in daylight conditions, at all temperatures whether in solid or liquid forms. Aluminum does incandesce like other metals, but faintly, so that in broad daylight conditions in air, it appears silvery-gray according to experiments done at BYU.)
We see from the photograph above that solid metal from the WTC rubble existed at salmon-to-yellow-hot temperature (approx. 1550 - 1900 oF, 845 - 1040 oC.) The temperature is well above the melting temperatures of lead and aluminum, and these metals can evidently be ruled out since they would be runny liquids at much lower (cherry-red or below) temperatures. However, the observed hot specimen could be structural steel (from the building) or iron (from a thermite reaction) or a combination of the two. Additional photographs of the hot metal could provide further information and advance the research.
The following photograph has become available, evidently showing the now-solidified metal with entrained material, stored (as of November 2005) in a warehouse in New York:
The abundance of iron (as opposed to aluminum) in this material is indicated by the reddish rust observed.
More- http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
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Message 10
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 2:22pm(PDT)
Subject: Bolivia smartens up -- occupies natural gas fields, demands new con
LA PAZ, Bolivia (AP) -- President Evo Morales ordered soldiers to immediately occupy Bolivia's natural gas fields Monday and threatened to evict foreign companies unless they sign new contracts within six months giving Bolivia majority control over the entire chain of production.
Morales said soldiers and engineers with Bolivia's state-owned oil company would be sent to installations operated by foreign petroleum companies.
"The time has come, the awaited day, a historic day in which Bolivia retakes absolute control of our natural resources," Morales said in a speech from the San Alberto petroleum field in southern Bolivia to decree what he called a nationalization of the natural gas industry. The field has been operated by Brazil's Petroleo Brasileiro SA in association with the Spanish-Argentine Repsol YPF SA and France's Total SA.
Bolivia has South America's second largest natural gas reserves after Venezuela, and all foreign companies must turn over most production control to Bolivia's cash-strapped state-owned oil company, Yacimientos Petroliferos Fiscales Bolivianos, Morales said.
Multinational companies that produced 100 million cubic feet of natural gas daily last year in Bolivia will be able to retain only 18 percent of their production, with the rest being given to YPFB, he said. Morales did not name the companies.
Morales has acknowledged that nationalization will not mean a complete state takeover, because Bolivia lacks the ability to tap all its natural gas on its own.
Last week, Morales told Brazil's Valor Economico newspaper that Bolivia would have to "set up a new battalion, a new army of oil and gas specialists to exert the property right" for a complete state takeover of petroleum production.
Other major petroleum companies doing business in Bolivia, besides Petroleo Brasileiro and Repsol, include Britain's BG Group PLC and BP PLC and U.S.-based Exxon Mobil Corp.
A Repsol spokesman said the company could not respond because it had not received official word of the announcement. Petrobras officials did not immediately return messages seeking comment on Monday, a national holiday in Brazil.
Morales said the government would begin negotiations immediately with the companies to make sure they are willing to comply, but said they could be stripped of their rights to operate in Bolivia if they don't sign new contracts within the six-month deadline.
In the past, YPFB produced Bolivia's natural gas, but it was reduced to an administrative role in the mid-1990s after the country's gas exploration and production business was privatized. Experts have warned that the company is incapable of becoming a producer again without a massive infusion of cash.
Morales, a strident leftist, won the presidency in a landslide late last year after saying the country's natural resources had been "looted" by foreign companies and must be nationalized so that Bolivians could benefit from the profits that were being sent overseas.
Morales chose May 1, International Day of the Workers, to announce the nationalization plan. He wore a YPFB helmet as he gave his speech. Afterwards, a soldier unfurled a Bolivian flag from atop the natural gas installation.
Morales also said the state would retake control of Bolivian hydrocarbon companies that were partially privatized in the 1990s, with the state taking a majority stake.
With the nationalization announcement, Morales is following the path of Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez, his populist political mentor, said Pietro Pitts, editor-in-chief for the Venezuela-based LatinPetroleum.com.
Chavez has also taken moves to exert greater control over his country's vast petroleum reserves. Most foreign companies have decided to keep producing in Venezuela, though some announced they would abandon some production.
"You can call Bolivia Venezuela Part II because it seems like he (Morales) is going to try to do the same thing that Chavez is doing," said Pitts, namely giving the state majority control in its fossil fuel wealth.
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AP Business Writers Frank Bajak and Alan Clendenning contributed to this story from Bogota, Colombia and Mexico City.
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Message 11
From: "janet phelan" jcphelan10@yahoo.com
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 2:23pm(PDT)
Subject: Turn on Your Computer, er, Brain, er, Computer...
The latest computer plug-in: your brain
Leo Shanahan
April 25, 2006
To view the entire article, click on:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/04/24/1145861286779.html
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Message 12
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 2:26pm(PDT)
Subject: Have the MayDay Demonstrators shown Anti-War Leanings? What have yo
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Message 13
From: "Linda G. Richard" dazey@briskweb.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 3:04pm(PDT)
Subject: Universal's Flight 93 'Hijacked' By Truth Seekers
*Universal's Flight 93 'Hijacked' By Truth Seekers
*Forum moderators deleting entire threads in real time
*Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | April 29 2006
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html>*
Universal Studio's Flight 93 movie online forum has been completely
infiltrated by people opposing the official government 9/11 fable and
its moderators are having to delete entire threads in real time deeming
them, "inappropriate."
A cursory *visit to the forum*
<http://www.universalpictures.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1> confirms that
the entire website has been turned into a battle ground for countering
the government apologist propaganda being regurgitated in an impetuous
lunge to give credibility to a tale about as reality-based as Humpty
Dumpty.
The establishment press is spewing forth hit pieces as fast as its
antiquated 'one column per columnist per week' ratio can muster. *USA
Today*
<http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-04-27-conspiracies-sept-11_x.htm>
were the latest to use this shockudrama screen drivel as a pugel to try
and bash a truth movement spreading like wildfire across the four
corners of the cyber globe.
I have a policy of issuing rebuttals to the most distasteful hit pieces
but now I'm content to sit back and just lap up the hilarity of their
desperation as every attack piece is met with thousands of angry and
informed responses.
Neo-Con *conspiracy theorist Betsy Hart *
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/310306fearofmuslims.htm>reckoned
all the evidence could be explained away by saying that people who
question the official story "fear Islamic terrorism." Her forum was
overrun with cyber patriots putting her in her place and she threatened
to shut it down.
Befuddled liberal turned Bushite Cinnamon Stillwell gave us all a
chuckle when she claimed that, "the whole country witnessed the horrific
sight of planes flying into....the Pentagon."
When this website pointed out that no such video exists of a plane
flying into the Pentagon, Stillwell was left reeling and red-faced after
the San Francisco Chronicle were forced to *issue a retraction
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/200406issueretraction.htm>*
to the fairy tale story.
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Despite multiple large websites encouraging people to help Stillwell
with her homework by e mailing her, she backed down from the subject and
her next article was about immigration.
The Universal website carries a message at the top of the page stating,
"We apologize for the removal of the message boards - due to technical
difficulties all previous threads have been inadvertantly deleted. We
invite you to renew your dialog and discuss your thoughts on the film."
Yeah and the moon is made of cheese.
They deleted a whole backlog of threads because they uniformly exposed
the fact that Greengrass' shill excuse for a movie is just another
manufactured movie script, much like the government's version of 9/11.
"Inappropriate posts which include profanity, defamations, or threats
will be removed. Posts that are not deemed appropriate for a particular
thread may be moved by the moderator, says the site." By 'defamation'
they mean defamation of the official yarn that would put Hans Christian
Anderson to shame and truly is an insult to the victims of 9/11.
On the flip side websites like *Counterpunch*
<http://www.counterpunch.org/ridgeway04282006.html> and even the
*Philadelphia Daily News*
<http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/003187.html> are
carrying balanced pieces highlighting unanswered questions about Flight
93 that were carefully avoided in the new release.
Universal are removing dissenting posts so fast that children who suck
their thumbs and believe the establishment Jack and Jill version of 9/11
are now starting to look like the majority. *Visit the forum*
<http://www.universalpictures.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1> and show them
that a committed and educated minority will always triumph over an
ignorant brainwashed mass of stupefied zombies.
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Message 14
From: "janet phelan" jcphelan10@yahoo.com
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 3:27pm(PDT)
Subject: Safer than What???
Firms: Biometrics are really safer
When Kim Malinger shops, she'd rather give retailers plastic than her finger. For the North Aurora resident, keeping her personal identity personal takes priority over the convenience of shopping with biometrics ����� the automated recognition of human traits. Such programs are popping up locally in grocery stores and school cafeterias. In January, the San Francisco-based company Pay By Touch installed biometric scanners in 180 Jewel-Osco stores throughout the Chicagoland area, including Kane County. The company is making an effort to convince skeptical consumers such as Malinger that biometrics are safer than the credit cards and checks they use.
Kane County Chronicle
Date: 2006-04-19
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Message 15
From: "Thomas Potter" mr_thomas_potter@yahoo.com
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 5:03pm(PDT)
Subject: 9/11 Hoax
The only time the illuminati fooled me was to make me
believe that WTC was done with remote controlled
planes.
http://www.911hoax.com/Table_Contents.asp
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Message 16
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 7:00pm(PDT)
Subject: lIES
PLEASE PASS TO ALL YOU KNOW...
NEWS YOU WON'T FIND ON CNN
Was The Iraq War Legal, Or Illegal, Under International Law?
"Advantage is a better soldier than rashness." -Montjoy in Wm. Shakespeare's Henry V, 3.6.120
Evan Augustine Peterson III, J.D.
09/17/04 "ICH" -- During a BBC radio interview on Wednesday, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan created a controversy by reiterating his long-held position that the Iraq War was illegal because it breached the United Nations Charter. [1] On Thursday, the imperial leaders of the "Coalition of the Willing" retaliated by vehemently arguing that their Iraq War was, to the contrary, legal. [2]
Obviously, this dispute raises a legal question: "Whose opinion is correct, and whose is incorrect?" Additionally, we should be asking ourselves: "Who decides? (i.e., 'Whose jurisprudential opinion shall be dispositive for purposes of resolving this dispute?')"
It seems eminently reasonable -- even for the disputants -- to conclude that the optimal source of guidance on this question of international law would have to be the world's foremost experts in the field of international law. Hence, the UN's chief and the coalition's leaders need to know how the world's top international law experts would resolve their jurisprudential dispute. And we, the people, need to know who's right and who's wrong here.
Realistically, one cannot seriously expect the disputants -- much less their national electorates -- to wade through numerous legal documents, most of which contain rigorous and not-occasionally tedious reasoning, to find the correct answer. Thus, it seems prudent to proceed directly to the world's most authoritative answer to our pressing question du jour: "Was the Iraq War legal, or illegal, under international law?"
And The World's Most Authoritative Answer Is ... Among the world's foremost experts in the field of international law, the overwhelming jurisprudential consensus is that the Anglo-American invasion, conquest, and occupation of Iraq constitute three phases of one illegal war of aggression. [3]
Moreover, these experts in the international law of war deem both preventive wars and preemptive strikes to be euphemistic subcategories of outlawed wars of aggression.
And the experts' answer would hold true regardless of whether their governing legal authority was: (A) the UN Security Council Resolutions that were passed to implement the conflict-resolution provisions of the UN Charter; or (B) prior treaties and juridical holdings which have long since become general international law. [4]
Readers who need to "trust but verify" (i.e., to corroborate) for themselves that the experts' overwhelming opinion is exactly as stated above should read a document entitled "15 January 2003." (Find it by scrolling down approximately one-fourth of the way, after you've clicked onto this ES website: http://www.eurolegal.org/useur/bbiraqwar.htm "The Legality Of The Iraq War" .) Why?
That document was drafted and signed by the world's foremost international law experts -- the prestigious International Commission of International Law Jurists -- to provide ultimate proof of their authoritative opinion concerning the legal status of war against Iraq. Furthermore, this large body of eminent international law experts explicitly stated that they'd drafted their legal document in order to advise Messrs. Bush and Blair prior to the invasion: (1) that it would be blatantly illegal under international law for the Anglo-American belligerents to invade Iraq; and (2) that their joint decision as Commanders-in-Chief to commence hostilities would constitute prosecutable war crimes.
Skeptical readers who don't regard this highly-authoritative conclusion as an adequate answer are invited to undertake the legal reasoning for themselves at the ES website. Note that every applicable Article in the UN Charter, and every relevant UN Security Council Resolution, is cited and analyzed therein. And readers who continue to scroll down the ES website will find a succession of articles which summarize the opinions of noteworthy individual experts on international law. These, too, strongly confirm that the invasion of Iraq constituted an illegal war of aggression under international law. [5]
Finally, ambitious readers will learn what non-credible source was most responsible for propagating the fictitious pre-war claim that Saddam Hussein's Iraq was involved in the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon (hint: yet another uncredentialed neocon think-tanker from the thoroughly-discredited American Enterprise Institute).
Three Conclusions It is the overwhelming consensus of the world's foremost international law experts that: (1) UN Secretary General Annan's opinion is correct (i.e., true) because the Iraq War was, indeed, illegal; and
(2) the opinion of the "Coalition of the Willing's" leaders is incorrect (i.e., false) because their Iraq War was NOT legal.
(3) Therefore, Americans must break free of the neocons' self-delusional groupthink mentality by learning to differentiate between fact and truth, which are all-too-easily confused. For instance, it's an undeniable fact that Messrs. Bush and Cheney have been arguing along the campaign trail that "The Iraq War was legal!" Nevertheless, the mere fact that they've been vehemently arguing that point certainly does NOT make it true! Their argument is flawed by a logical fallacy called an ipse dixit (i.e., "something asserted but not proved"). As we've already seen, their argument is just plain WRONG AS A MATTER OF LAW! Therefore, Messrs. Bush and Cheney are making a false argument (i.e., deceptively asserting something that is untrue).
The Bottom Line Americans should reject the temptation to vote for Messrs. Bush and Cheney, because: (1) both men were advised beforehand that their decision to commence the invasion of Iraq would be blatantly illegal under international law; (2) they invaded nonetheless, and now they're cynically attempting to mislead the public again by falsely arguing that "The Iraq War was legal!"; (3) however, their argument is legally-meritless nonsense -- the current equivalent of their earlier false argument that torture is a legal method for the US military's interrogation of prisoners; (4) they've repeatedly demonstrated their disdain for universal human rights and democratic governance under the rule of law; and
(5) the 21st-century world isn't Tombstone's OK Corral and they certainly aren't Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday -- however much they might wish us to believe that they are! [6]
ENDNOTES
[1] Read this 9-16-04 PI article by clicking on these blue words: http://www.politinfo.com/articles/article_2004_09_16_4815.html "UN Says Nothing New In Annan's 'Illegal War' Comment". Also see this 9-17-04 GU article, which contends that UN Secretary General Annan's statement wasn't his long-held opinion, but is new and belated: http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,1306642,00.html "The War Was Illegal"
[2] Read this 9-17-04 JO article by clicking on these blue words: http://snipurl.com/94y0 "Bush Joins Coalition Leaders In Defending War Against Iraq"
[3] Read the 9-15-04 ES's indispensable analysis by clicking on these blue words: http://www.eurolegal.org/useur/bbiraqwar.htm#TOP Legality of the Iraq War. If the click-on doesn't link, paste this URL into your webserver: http://www.eurolegal.org/useur/bbiraqwar.htm [Skeptical readers should not read to confirm their biases, but instead should set their biases aside until they've finished reading all of the legal arguments on this website, which will take awhile.]
[4] There seems to be one relevant omission from the ES website. General international law could have been be cited as an alternative basis for proving the Iraq War's illegality by analyzing these authoritative precedents: (A) the Kellogg-Briand Pact of Paris (1928); and (B) the Charters, Principles, Indictments, and Holdings from the International Military Tribunals at N����remberg and Tokyo (1945-48).
[5] Generally speaking, legal opinions offered by government attorneys are NOT considered to be authoritative because: (a) they're drafted in the adversarial mode of an advocate, often under self-interested political pressure from the executive branch; (b) even at its best, their reasoning tends toward casuistry, reflecting Cicero's injudicious maxim,"salus populi suprema lex esto" (De Legibus, III, 3.8: "Let the welfare of the people be the supreme law!" Or the Bushites' tortuous translation thereof: "We feel that we can legally torture our prisoners now if it might save our people later!"); and (c) for an apt example, see the history of the Third Reich's attorneys Hans Frank and Wilhelm Frick, whose pre-war legal advice to Reichsf����hrer Hitler was that Germany could use the pretext of an imminent threat to "preemptively" invade Poland, for which war crime they were both tried, sentenced, and hanged to death by the International Military Tribunal at N����remberg. Note bene, Attorney General Ashcroft and Bush administration "torture memo" attorneys Bybee, Chertoff, Gonzales, Haynes and Woo!
[6] Read Douglas Jehl's 9-16-4 CD/SPI article by clicking on these blue words: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0916-02.htm "CIA Analysis Holds Bleak Vision For Iraq's Future". Also see the 9-16-04 Dreyfuss Report column: http://tompaine.com/archives/the_dreyfuss_report.php "Annan For President"
Author: Evan Augustine Peterson III, J.D., is the Executive Director of the American Center for International Law ("ACIL"). <EvPeters8@aol.com>
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Message 17
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 7:11pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: 9/11 Hoax
From: "Thomas Potter" <mr_thomas_potter@yahoo.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 5:03 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] 9/11 Hoax
> The only time the illuminati fooled me was to make me
> believe that WTC was done with remote controlled
> planes.
Then you are accept the hijackers-did-it story.
Now what about the Pentagon attack?
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Message 18
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 8:45pm(PDT)
Subject: Christopher Bollyn: 9-11 Lawsuits Stymied -- victim families under
From: Thomas R. Ascher
http://www.americanfreepress.net/
9-11 Lawsuits Stymied
By Christopher Bollyn, American Free Press, 04/24/06
While the media plays up the significance of the government show trial of the seemingly deranged "20th hijacker" Zacharias Moussaoui, not one 9-11 victim's lawsuit has been allowed to be heard in a trial by jury. Why have the 9-11 victims' families not been given the same right to have their cases heard in an open trial?
Ellen Mariani, who lost her husband Neil on United Air Lines (UAL) Flight 175, filed the first 9-11 wrongful death lawsuit against UAL on Dec. 20, 2001. Mariani was interviewed on national television in May 2002 by Bill O'Reilly of Fox News, who repeatedly questioned her about why she had chosen to pursue litigation instead of accepting the government fund. "I want justice," Mariani said. "I want accountability. Who is responsible? I want the truth."
Today, Mariani, like the other 9-11 plaintiffs, is under a gag order which prevents her from speaking about her ongoing lawsuit. Likewise, thousands of employees of federal agencies like the Federal Aviation Administration have received gag orders in the mail keeping them from telling what they know about the events of 9-11.
After more than four years, however, Mariani's determined pursuit for the truth about 9-11 through the court system has failed to yield any answers or discovery about who is responsible for 9-11. Today, she is no closer to obtaining what she has stated she wanted from the beginning-a trial by jury.
Why have the many victims' cases like Mariani's, brought by relatives of loved ones lost on 9-11, not been allowed to be heard in a trial by jury-a basic American right? And why have the foreign-owned security companies involved in the shocking security lapses, which enabled the attacks of 9-11, been granted immunity by the U.S. Congress?
All of the relatives' wrongful death criminal lawsuits against the airlines and their security companies have been consolidated by the presiding judge into a negligence lawsuit, which is a civil case and much less likely to be argued or investigated in an open trial with a jury. The 9-11 wrongful death and personal injury cases against American Air Lines (AA) or UAL or any of the foreign security companies, namely Argenbright Security (British), Globe Aviation Services Corp. (Swedish) and Huntleigh USA Corp. (Israeli) are being handled by U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein of the Southern District of New York.
In the case of at least one of these security defendants, Huntleigh, there would seem to be a conflict of interest for the judge because the airline security company who is responsible for the shocking security lapses at both the Boston and Newark airports on 9-11 is a wholly-owned subsidiary of an Israeli company (ICTS) headed by men with clear ties to Israel's military intelligence agency, Mossad.
Hellerstein, 73, on the other hand, has deep and longstanding Zionist connections and close family ties to the state of Israel. A Zionist is a supporter of the state of Israel.
Hellerstein's wife is a former senior vice president and current treasurer of a New York-based Zionist organization called AMIT. AMIT promotes Jewish immigration to Israel and stands for Americans for Israel and Torah. AMIT's motto is "Building Israel-One Child at a Time." Hellerstein is a member of the Jewish Center of New York and a former president of the Board of Jewish Education of Greater New York.
This raises the obvious question about why, in the 9-11 terror case in which an Israeli security company is a key defendant and in which individuals from Israeli military intelligence are suspected of being involved, was Hellerstein chosen to preside over all 9-11 victim lawsuits?
Huntleigh USA is a wholly owned subsidiary of an Israeli company called International Consultants on Targeted Security (ICTS) International N.V., a Netherlands-based aviation and transportation security firm headed by "former [Israeli] military commanding officers and veterans of government intelligence and security agencies."
Menachem Atzmon, convicted in Israel in 1996 for campaign finance fraud, and his business partner Ezra Harel, took over management of security at the Boston and Newark airports when their company ICTS bought Huntleigh USA in 1999. UAL Flight 175 and AA 11, which allegedly struck the twin towers, both originated in Boston, while UAL 93, which purportedly crashed in Pennsylvania, departed from the Newark airport. ICTS also operates the German port of Rostock on the Baltic Sea.
Some victims' families brought lawsuits against Huntleigh claiming the security firm had been grossly negligent on 9-11. While these relatives have a right to discovery and to know what Huntleigh did or did not do to protect their loved ones on 9-11, Huntleigh, along with the other security companies, was granted complete congressional protection in 2002 and will not be called to account for its actions on 9-11 in any U.S. court.
Hellerstein, however, is not the only player overseeing the 9-11 litigation process who has close ties to Israel. In fact, all of the key players and law firms involved are either active Zionists or work for firms that do a great deal of business representing Israeli companies and/or the state of Israel.
Kenneth R. Feinberg, for example, the special master of the federally funded Victims' Compensation Fund, is also a dedicated Zionist. Feinberg single-handedly administered the $7 billion fund that paid out U.S. taxpayer money to some 97 percent of the families who could have sued to recover tort damages for monetary loss and pain and suffering. Those who accepted funds signed away their right to litigate against the government, the airlines or the security companies.
The Kenneth Feinberg Group is listed as one of the top 10 supporters of the Jerusalem Institute for Israel Studies for 2004-2005. The Jerusalem Institute is an Israel-based Zionist organization that, among other things, supports the building of the illegal separation wall across Palestine.
The Feinberg Group also lists as its clients major insurance and re-insurance companies such as Lloyd's of London. These are the companies who stood to lose billions of dollars if 9-11 victims' lawsuits had gone forward.
Feinberg was appointed special master by then Attorney General John Ashcroft. Ashcroft, a dedicated Christian Zionist and supporter of such groups as Stand for Israel, is today working as a lobbyist for Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI), Israel's major military aerospace company, which hired the former U.S. attorney general to help secure the U.S. government's approval to sell an Israeli weapons system to the South Korean Air Force.
The Israelis hired Ashcroft to improve their chances against a system built by Chicago-based Boeing.
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Message 19
From: "JP Liggett" JP@JPLiggett.com
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 9:14pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Universal's Flight 93 'Hijacked' By Truth Seekers
IMHO, universal's censorship in real time, and releasing the DVD
simultaneously (saw it for sale this weekend in retail) seems so desperate,
it going to help expose the truth even more. And all the cover-up
conspirators will know we've got their fingerprints, for the 911 truth
trials to come. We should use F93 in every means possible to spread the
word, perhaps some little stickers on the F93 dvd boxes would be a nice
touch.
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Message 20
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 9:36pm(PDT)
Subject: Fw: Kaminski Terminating the perpetual Holocaust / Barbra-ren��
The end game strategy
The purpose of our quest:
Terminating the perpetual Holocaust
By John Kaminski
skylax@comcast.net
for B-r and Maisoon
"The minute you let her under your skin, then you begin to make it better."
����� The Beatles, Hey Jude
"Anyone who criticises Israel's actions or argues that pro-Israel groups have significant influence over US Middle East policy," the authors have written, "...stands a good chance of being labelled an anti-Semite. Indeed, anyone who merely claims that there is an Israeli lobby runs the risk of being charged with anti-Semitism ... Anti-Semitism is something no-one wants to be accused of." This is strong stuff in a country where - to quote the late Edward Said - the "last taboo" (now that anyone can talk about blacks, gays and lesbians) is any serious discussion of America's relationship with Israel.
����� Robert Fisk, Breaking the Last Taboo,
The United States of Israel
The woman I love speaks of the need for "an end game," something that will begin to resolve this cancerous impasse that separates spin from reality and gives us wars for profit and misery for all those not on the inside of the big money game.
She more than I knows that the Jewish question ����� and its manipulative influence on every aspect of human endeavor ����� is the pivot point of any possible solution. The actual Jewish question is simply this: How dangerous is it for everybody else when one group, acting only in the interests of itself because this is its stated goal ����� gains ascendance over every other group when this stated goal is the destruction or subjugation of every other group?
How dangerous is it? Just look at the world.
The epiphany that triggers the "end game" investigation is realizing that this calculated ascendance has already happened, and that the preponderance of people in the world are ruled by the vicious mercy of those who control the money. If you have any question about who controls the money then you are deficient in history, as is most of the world�����s human population.
The necessity for "an end game" strategy, she told me, was to avoid a worldwide Jewish holocaust ����� a new, real one, not like the fake, old one ����� because once everybody found out what was really going on ����� and what had been done to them and those they love ����� every Jew anywhere would be in very serious trouble. The backlash when you realize the monstrous magnitude of the manipulation and the thievery ����� not to mention the outright senseless slaughter ����� would be chilling.
Now, you may ask, what have Jews done to deserve such rancor and alarm?
The answer depends on how much of the story you think you know ����� how much of the history of destabilized societies (think Bolshevik Revolution, a wholly Jewish enterprise), of gaining control of other religions (think Scofield Bible and Martin Luther, not to mention those televangelists who profane their pulpits), and think most relevantly about who presently dominates world wide media.
Do you know about Palestine, really? Jewish media flipped the labels: the real story is Palestinian freedom fighters and Jewish terrorists. Israel is a �����country����� founded on terror and maintained in the same way.
Most importantly, remember this. Use of the word "holocaust" triggers a pre-programmed response in everyone, due to four decades of intense propaganda about the abuse of Jews by Germans. The dumbed-down American populace (you know! the bunch that accepts torture as part of democracy) now fully endorses the fabricated Jewish media view of the events of World War II, even though it was principally invented and embellished in the 1960s. The mainstream accounts of the Holocaust are so phony that many countries controlled by Jews have passed laws making it illegal to even discuss these matters as a way to stifle the debate, maintain the mindset, and conceal the fraud.
Yet a majority of the world's people ����� especially savvy politicians who realize what it takes to get ahead ����� accept this fiction as the cost of doing business. It is called selling your soul.
The dead children of Palestine and the radioactive families of Iraq are an acceptable cost of doing business to the creeps who push the buttons and drop the bombs ����� all of them guilty of genocide under the terms of Nuremburg and Geneva. At whose behest were these crimes committed? That is the question everyone in the world needs to ask.
Remember? When Poppy Bush told reporter Sarah MacClendon: "If people really knew what we're doing, they'd drag us out into the streets and hang us." This is the future each Jew faces when the general public finally learns what has been done to them over time by a small group which, through control of money and media, has finally managed to turn the society of humans into a fluoride-numbed herd of programmable consumers with consciences permanently anesthetized.
Those who would defend the Hebrew tribe would counter: It has always been this way. Why blame Jews?
Because Judaism and its unnatural offspring Christianity and Islam are at the center of all this turmoil back to time immemorial. And because today, Jewish money controls all of the banks and newspapers in the entire Western world, at least through advertising pressure, but principally by actual ownership.
The answer would be (and the knowledge every member of the tribe seeks to conceal) that "yes, it has always been this way", is precisely BECAUSE OF the history of the tribe, which even in the days before Babylon was establishing itself as a divisive force in ancient India before it brought the scourge of religious mind control into the palaces of Western civilization. Now we see it clearly in the depleted uranium dust now wafting around the world as America strangles itself for the profit of its Jewish overlords.
The report by Walt and Mearsheimer referred to by Robert Fisk at the top of this essay was a recent brouhaha created for media consumption to test the public's perception of Israel's rule of the United States. Now, of course, Israel doesn't rule the United States, the Jewish community that lives in the U.S. and supports Israel rules the United States.
The Walt-Mearsheimer report merely restates the obvious: that no one gets elected to Congress without Jewish support. Thus we have a one-sided view of events in the world which is shaped by bought-off legislators and reinforced by media, all controlled by the Jewish community.
Public response to these conclusions has been muted and in fact barely heard as big media has stifled its dissemination except in some obvious cases of character assassination, principally by Alan Dershowitz and other kneejerk Jewish spin doctors.
The public can't understand the events of the world because virtually all the information disseminated about it is controlled by Jewish partisans, from twisted schoolbooks to dangerous medical myths to popular movies that denigrate the family and promote irresponsible promiscuity and betrayal.
Worse, otherwise principled news outlets are intimidated not run stories germane to this critical theme because of potential and inevitable losses to their profitmaking future.
And principled historians who attempt to point out the fraud of this Jewish Holocaust mystique remain moldering in European jails, imprisoned for "defaming the memory of the dead." Free speech crushed under the Jewish media heel.
What will happen when everybody finds out about Jewish control of medicine through the invention of psychology? Or how the American family system was undermined and destroyed by Jewish media and a wholly Jewish women�����s liberation movement? What will happen when everybody finds out that America's higher educational system is now completely controlled by those who control the thoughts of those young malleable minds it molds? And feeds them fatal drugs as it does so.
How do we stop this madness? By identifying what is being done to us, and who is doing it.
When the world does that (IF the world ever does that), then Jews will certainly need protection from the surviving irate victims of the harm they have done with their selfish social engineering schemes.
But the alternative to considering potential "end game" strategies is even worse.
It means we will never find out who we really are, or what kind of world we really live in. It means a perpetual future of semi-conscious slavery, with no chance of transcending the controls that diminish our lives.
It means we give up the last chance we�����ll ever have to attain genuine, self-actualized freedom, because every single second and every single cell in our bodies will have been taken over and polluted by the forces of evil now running the world.
And if you don�����t believe that, just sit back and listen to the bombs until it�����s your turn to cry.
John Kaminski is a writer who lives on the Gulf Coast of Florida. �����Recipe for Extinction,����� his latest collection of Internet essays which are seen on hundreds of websites around the world, is now available for purchase at http://www.johnkaminski.com/
See also Barbra-ren����e Brighenti�����s �����The End Game�����
http://www.warfolly.com/articles/endgame.html
which contains the ideas that motivated my commentary.
As the Holocaust Revisionists uproot the tree of guilt and entitlement, as South America calls attention to the IMF and thus the 13 jewish families of the Federal Reserve, as the Arab Street wakens, as Iran points out the hypocrisy of the jewish stranglehold, as the bloggers challenge the manufactured lies of history-we are seeing a revolution, even in our darkest hours, know that the rumble in the distance is the herd rousing. Gandhi told the British to go home; can we tell the jews the same?
The End Game (edited version)
By Barbra-ren����e Brighenti
realtor44@comcast.net
4-30-06
There are voices in the wilderness now. Messengers for the message. Howls that get our attention. John the Baptist was a messenger, an empty bowl that talked of the message that would arrive and change our goblets of water into wine. He was beheaded for a jewesses delight. Talk of a Talmud special. And then there is the Rabbi who said anti-semitism was a good thing for jews, kept them cohesive. And a catch 22 for us. To talk or not to talk, and either way, it�����s a win-win for them. Tell them of their faults and it propels them to build their tower of Babel even higher, don�����t say anything and the silence translates into acceptance. What is the sound of one hand clapping?
The Palestinians will take the fall for us. They are the truly Chosen People, chosen because their faith and truth is strong and they will not acquiesce. And the fabled Chosen Ones? Well their chosen ness is to be the scions of Satan- a mirror for the rest of us, their hatred and ruthlessness will propel us to get it right this time or suffer the consequences. We sit on the shoulders of eons; this show has been written and rewritten. Masters and slaves. And when the slaves find out, well you get a lot of dead people.
The supposed Holocaust that has become our nightly bed time story will backfire. The gates of hell have been opened and legitimized. The lies of course tell more about the liars, their Freudian slip. Call wolf too often and you get eaten.
But the End Game is the point- what is it that you want? The cat is coming out of the bag-the jews can control the media, banques, and education, take over our churches and politicians, but they can�����t take away that sneaking suspicion that we have been had. And people talk. And then they get angry. And all those video games and gaz chamber stories will light the fires for revenge. And revenge in this society means killing. Do we want a real holocaust? The jews know that it is now or never- they are closing the net. Our children will not stand a chance- you know it and I know it. Their weapons of control have enmeshed us to the point that confusion and/or apathy reign. Given one more generation and we will be forever slaves- that is if they don�����t eliminate most of the population first.
But do you want to do what the Romans did when they found out who Nero was (a jew)? When they saw their culture corrupted, their young legions fighting for the money changers (jews).Their Senate bought and sold (by jews)? Do you want the order to be given to march to Jerusalem and kill every last man, woman and child that is a jew? It has happened before, it is happening here and the results will be the same, and the cycle will continue. As we become the messengers, and howl above the raging tempest that is drowning us, can we do it without acknowledging that we are helping to unleash the furies? Or can we envision an End Game based upon our beliefs and dreams? The responsibility is ours and now is the time to talk and decide. So far these are the results: the Egyptians got killed, the Romans killed (and in doing so lost their innocence), the Russians lost their people and culture and the Germans are being bled to death slowly. The Palestinians even in the deafening silence of world opinion have not lost their humanity, but generational post dramatic stress will create havoc on an individual level. And now it is us. Some have suggested to destroy the religion itself and leave the people be. Others have suggested to gather the worlds jews and give them Palestine and wall them in their jewish state forever. All the jewish lands, homes, and businesses that will be left behind will be given to the Palestinians as compensation. Others have suggested that jews and any variation of jewish lineage be forbidden in those professions that have any impact on the cultures they live in: education, science, politics, and banqueing.
Remember those that fight by the sword will die by the sword. Let us not at the end of the nightmare become like the jews themselves and say an eye for an eye. If we become like them by fighting them on their terms than we will be their Frankenstein-no more, no less. And the jews themselves need have no say in this. For 3000 years they have cried wolf. If they have not seen the errors of their ways, than they have been self-serving. The forgiveness courts of South Africa will not work; they, the jews, are the masters of deception. They were already asked to depart from Spain or convert and ended up with what we call the Spanish Inquisition- so we have been there and tried that and it didn�����t work. But there must be a solution.
As the Holocaust Revisionists uproot the tree of guilt and entitlement, as South America calls attention to the IMF and thus the 13 jewish families of the Federal Reserve, as the Arab Street wakens, as Iran points out the hypocrisy of the jewish stranglehold, as the bloggers challenge the manufactured lies of history-we are seeing a revolution. Even in our darkest hours, know that the rumble in the distance is the herd rousing. Gandhi told the British to go home; can we tell the jews the same? Remember this problem has been the problem for ages; it is neither new nor unique to us. But the test to our humanity is again being offered. The solution to the jewish problem is in direct correlation to the awareness we have about the sacredness of life we have been given.
The divisions between us have become irrelevant as our house is on fire. The End Game will either be a rerun or a tremendous gift. It is time for our quantum leap, the names we give this jackal, the dates and terms of his historical life are but blueprints of failures once used to tame this beast. Let us take responsibility as we unleash this floodgate- let us be creative and responsible and thankful for this test that the End Game offers each and every one of us.
Barbra-ren����e Brighenti is a writer who lives on the Gulf Coast of Florida.
More of her work can be found at-
http://www.crescentandcross.com/index.php?page=articles&author=barbra-renee_brighenti
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Message 21
From: "Caomhain {Kevin} Lee Hammond" sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 10:22pm(PDT)
Subject: This is disturbing!
I tried to go to that www.911sites.org site and it had been hacked and
I could not get on to the site. Has anyone else had this problem?
Kevin
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Message 22
From: "Edward Pickersgill" edward@mytown.ca
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 10:34pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: This is disturbing!
Yep. Its been hacked. By relative friendlies though.... it says
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Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:22 AM
Subject: [911TruthAction] This is disturbing!
I tried to go to that www.911sites.org site and it had been hacked and
I could not get on to the site. Has anyone else had this problem?
Kevin
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Message 23
From: "Kevin Hammond" sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 10:46pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: This is disturbing!
""relative friendlies?!""
Edward Pickersgill <edward@mytown.ca> wrote: Yep. Its been hacked. By relative friendlies though.... it says
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Subject: [911TruthAction] This is disturbing!
I tried to go to that www.911sites.org site and it had been hacked and
I could not get on to the site. Has anyone else had this problem?
Kevin
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Message 24
From: "Edward Pickersgill" edward@mytown.ca
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 10:50pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: This is disturbing!
run of the mill hackers. the site obviously did not have its security features up-to-date. Hopefully the webwizard will have all her or his files backed up. Shouldn't take long to get it back in gear.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] This is disturbing!
""relative friendlies?!""
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Subject: [911TruthAction] This is disturbing!
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Message 25
From: "NoRedCoats@aol.com" NoRedCoats@aol.com
Date: Mon May 1, 2006 11:43pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Latino protesters made a huge public relations mistake
The mistake was to threaten families with the prospect of deportation for
some family members, a girlfriend, a mom, etc. The irony is that those who are
writing this legislation, are themselves sons and daughters of immigrants who
also came here illegally! Just ask Native Americans. You think Native
Americans liked having their lands stolen, their cultures annihilated by Europeans
claiming freedom from tyranny? Creating another "Diary of Anne Frank" for
putting food from farm fields on our tables is a mean spirited action that
contradicts our bragging about justice, freedom and democracy to other countries.
Sure there is some crime and no one wants that, just as no one wants
organized crime. Crime happens with all cultures and is not prone to Latinos my
friend. The attitude of having some immigrants work for crap wages in hot fields,
cleaning bathrooms and trusting them with our kids, then telling them to get
the hell out after, is disingenuous, selfish, arrogant and thankless to say
the least. The whole world is watching just how America is going to act on
this. You can't talk about how fair and civil you are to other countries then
turn around by attacking some of the weakest members of our society. We did
that to Iraq and it's a mess for years to come. Do unto others as you would do
unto yourself.
Let's face it, this is just another sign of a failed administration that
just keeps shooting itself in the political foot! They cheated Americans out of
their vote since 2000 and here we are with high gas prices, fighting a failed
war in Iraq, over 8 trillion in debt, attacking women's right, attacking
immigrants, attacking wages, cutting down working hours and 9-11 hysteria is
pushing us to internal domestic infighting. The vast majority of immigrants are
nothing but hard working people and deserve respect and equality. Xenophobia
is not an answer.
This new immigrant issue is a threat to those Neo-Cons who engineered such a
stupid mean spirited approach with a bulldozer mentality. Many immigrants
are now fighting and dying in the middle east for a wrong-headed war based on a
lie and threatening them with a police state approach is frightening to
anyone. Remember what the Nazis did with their "Brown Shirt" thugs during World
War Two! By the way, most flags waved were American in all these
demonstrations!
The border issue certainly needs to be improved by developing a winning
system for controlled border crossings and identification checks. I grant you
that. Waving one's flag of heritage and pride are a long standing tradition
throughout our country's history. Italians, Irish, and other groups have done it
not to downgrade our American Flag but to reflect their own sense of cultural
pride. America is a great country and let's show our bigness by making it a
point to take a civil approach to solve problems.
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