Friday, February 10, 2006

Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group: Blog Post about Michael B. Green

Also an apologist video production which amounts to a snuff film was set
up 6 months in advance.
CBS is one of the producers.
http://911foreknowledge.com

Bill Giltner wrote:
> I'm not trying to change the subject here, and just ignore me if you
> want to continue on the line of discussion that you are on.... but
> let's step back a second.
>
> Elements of US based planning and execution include:
> 1) "planted" witnesses to report on 9/11 to media to public and following
> 2) planted videographers
> 3) planted evidence (hijackers, hijacker password),
> 4) other suspicious limited hang outs, e.g. Michael Moore Fahrenheit 911
> 5) Insiders to assisted cover up in high places: Guiliani
> 6) Clear anticipation of need to have the 911 Victims Fund to manage risk
>
> this is a tiny list of the whole
>
> Regardless of where the military grade weapons came from to do the
> attacks, the idea that there would be any discussion about whether
> there is massive participation by elements within the US is just
> offensive.
>
>
> On 2/9/06, *ron_winn* <ron_winn@lineone.net
> <mailto:ron_winn@lineone.net>> wrote:
>
> It's this word elements within that needs a definition. Many are
> naming the element within as people in the administration but
> there are of course other elements. Religious, political,
> military, environmentalists, business & criminal elements.
>
> Not only does the word terrorism need defining but inside job
> needs one too. A few have defined what they mean as an inside job.
> But other use an inside job to encompass all the above elements
> which only infers that that excludes those accused in the official
> story. It might help the "movement" if an "inside job" was
> defined. It might be more of a selling point if what was put to
> the people was "al Qaida didn't do 9/11. How could they when 67(?)
> times in the past smaller aircraft have been located in American
> skies and got themselves a fighter escort."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* alexldent <mailto:alexldent@yahoo.com>
> *To:* 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:39 PM
> *Subject:* [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from
> Group: Blog Post about Michael B. Green
>
>
> You are touching on a fascinating idea-- that the navy shot
> the missiles that
> were used on 9/11 and the F16s were sent out to check out what
> the navy
> was doing (?)-- but I really don't follow your overall point.
> Maybe the problem
> is just semantics on what "inside job" means. What is your
> definition of "inside
> job"? Mine is simply that some elements of the USG were
> involved actively in
> the attacks.
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com>, "ron_winn"
> <ron_winn@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > We know that F16's were sent out to sea which has never
> really been
> explained. In fact it seems such a stupid thing to do. Or else
> too obvious
> sending them on a wild goose chase as if to get them away from
> where they
> might hinder the "inside job". NORAD say that every defence
> system was
> pointing outwards towards an external threat. What forms of
> external threat is
> there? Well, many speak of missiles. Missiles have to be
> lauched from
> somewhere. Also why was the US Navy made ready soon after 9/11
> was all
> but over? What was the Navy going to do that the airforce
> couldn't and
> apparently didn't on the day? The threats, we are told were
> purely domestic
> flights. The atc's, the FAA and all other agencies were
> concentrating of
> domestic flights. So NORAD sends out the F16's out to sea [and
> Lord knows
> where the F15's got to] sounds very stupid, right. Do you
> think the pilots would
> have been so silent if they knew they had been sent on a
> fools' errand?
> >
> > IMO F16's were not sent on a wild goose chase and the Navy
> wasn't made
> ready for a "domestic" inside job that was all but over. You
> can speak of
> missiles but they had to come in from somewhere. And F16's
> sent up must
> have been sent up with a purpose and that wasn't surely to get
> them out of the
> way. The threat was "in your face" domestic. The military are
> not dumb. That
> fits in too conveniently with the case of negligence that gets
> the admin off the
> hook. You think the airforce F16's would have done a "victory"
> flyover at the
> Pentagon if they had just come back from a wild goose chase.
> >
> > You see, it looks too obviously an inside job although that
> is not to say
> assistance had to be obtained from insiders. This goes to the
> point and the
> question - why if it was an purely an inside job wouldn't
> 767's from their
> graveyard in the desert have been used. If they had we
> wouldn't be here
> today engaged in our search for the truth.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: alexldent
> > To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:04 AM
> > Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from
> Group: Blog
> Post about Michael B. Green
> >
> >
> > >>> I've never been convinced of an inside job although I
> have an open
> > mind.<<<
> >
> > Wha????? If it wasn't an inside job, what were they
> covering up?
> >
> >
> > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com>, "ron_winn" <ron_winn@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Your link doesn't work.
> > > Unfortunately the other one does.
> > > Interesting statement because if two real 767's or
> substitutes were
> > in the plan then "11" would have been a scheduled flight.
> And so would
> > "77". Or both flights would have been reported to be
> private charters.
> > >
> > > Something flew into the north tower and to hastily cover
> up what it
> > was flight "11" was used.
> > >
> > > I've never been convinced of an inside job although I
> have an open
> > mind. So far there is enough to support a hasty cover up.
> The Pentagon
> > attack being the most speedily concocted one, I believe.
> Although 93
> > is running a close second.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Bill Giltner
> > > To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:19 PM
> > > Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Request for Critique from
> Group: Blog
> > Post about Michael B. Green
> > >
> > >
> > > Check out my blog post here:
> > >
> > >
> > http://bgtruth.blogspot.com/2006/02/we-believe-that-senior-
> government.HTML
> > >
> > > Here's my main point:
> > >
> > > Additional Commentary by this Blogger:
> > >
> > > Where Dr. Green goes horribly wrong: (is this on purpose?)
> > >
> > > "To put matters plainly: any substitute plane would be
> an exact
> > duplicate of
> > > AA11 or UA175. To do anything else would be inviting
> disaster. "
> > >
> > > http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/green/loose_change.html
> > >
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