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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Simulation: New Pentagon video shows no Boeing airliner -- had it d
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
2. Re: Need Fuselage Height Data
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
3. Re: Signs of tyranny looming
From: "mann david" dmann51@yahoo.com
4. A Day in the Life: 5/17/6
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." prez@usa-exile.org
5. Re: Need Fuselage Height Data
From: "Cait" ansith@gmail.com
6. FBI Withholding 84 More Tapes of Pentagon on 9/11
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
7. Troll alert...let's give 'em hell
From: "Deborah Simon" tapirsaver@yahoo.com
8. Re: [Fwd: Flight 77] YES I SAW A BIG F**KING ASS BOEING JET HIT IT!
From: "Phil Aragon" crap2phil@yahoo.com
9. Re: [911-disc] Simulation: New Pentagon video shows no Boeing airli
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
10. In answer to Naveed about who Judith Pfeif is
From: "Marsha MCClelland" mofmars3@sbcglobal.net
11. Loose Change 2E: #1 on GOOGE VIDEO
From: "Joe Stokes" joestokes@sbcglobal.net
12. Re: [Fwd: Flight 77] YES I SAW A BIG F**KING ASS BOEING JET HIT IT!
From: "Chris" advokris@aol.com
13. : Released Vidoes of Flight 77 Hitting The Pentagon
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
14. Fw: Mossad has been training and recruiting Kurds for clandestine o
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
15. Re: In answer to Naveed about who Judith Pfeif is
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
16. [Fwd: FLIGHT 77: Pentagon propaganda slide show, Showing Nothing!]
From: "APFN" apfn@apfn.org
17. What a 757 hitting the pentagon would look like
From: "Deborah Simon" tapirsaver@yahoo.com
18. APFN - CLICK: 9/11 - FLIGHT 77 INFO AND LINKS:
From: "APFN" apfn@apfn.org
19. 9/11 & Secret Societies �05/15/ Cost to Coast AM
From: "APFN" apfn@apfn.org
20. Fw: This cartoon Boeing overlay in the 2002 Bosankoe animation of t
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
21. Researcher Says 'Watchdogs' Exaggerate US Hate Group Threat
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
22. CNN plan to attack Sheen, Pentagon skeptics
From: "Total Information" totalinfo@gmail.com
23. Where is the Plane, Flight 77 ? + Ed Schultz is a Republican shill
From: "ranger116@webtv.net" ranger116@webtv.net
24. Re: Signs of tyranny looming
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
25. Re: 9/11...NEW PHOTO'S FLIGHT 77
From: "Kitty" kitty285@charter.net
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Message 1
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 9:23am(PDT)
Subject: Simulation: New Pentagon video shows no Boeing airliner -- had it d
Simulation.
This is what the security camera videotape would have had to have looked like had the killer jet been a Boeing 757.
campare with actual at 1,
This is what they promised -- a jetliner crashing into the Pentagon (here faked for demonstration purposes) but did not deliver.
Here is what they actually delivered yesterday:
Here (below) includes the data that was released in early March 2002. This is the case that the government and it's privatized propaganda arm Judicial Watch is trying to refute -- and failed miserably yesterday.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Compare with cartoon above.
Two planes approached the Pentagon at slightly different angles The jetliner was seen to veer over and away at the last minute. The other aircraft ( a jet fighter like the F-16 or some other missile firing platform) fired a missile into the wall ahead of its own crash at pillar #14. The jetliner, which may or may not have been the plane ususally scheduled as Flight 77, then landed at Reagan National Airport almost exactly one mile from the crash.
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Message 2
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 9:31am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Need Fuselage Height Data
The fuselage is 10 feet wide -- front on pictures show the fuselage to be pear-shaped, but approximately round -- I'd say between 10 and 12 feet Remember, the engines hang lower than the fuselage.
Dick
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From: Cait
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:17 AM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Need Fuselage Height Data
Can someone answer a quick question?
I can't seem to find it online but I know I have it somewhere..
I need to know the height of the fuselage section of the 757 with landing gear, not the height of the tail.
Thanks,
Cait
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Message 3
From: "mann david" dmann51@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 10:13am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Signs of tyranny looming
"WE" - You are clueless!!
--- John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A nation that does not defend its borders will not
> continue to be a nation.
> Terrorists, smugglers, murders, rapists, are among
> those illegals.
>
> Our future if we do not control immigration
>
> Did we not notice what happened to the Indians
> because they did not control immigration?
> If you woke up tonight with a gun at your head,
> you would agree that burglary should be illegal.
> So is illegal immigration.
> Those who were born here of parents who were
> citizens,
> are our citizens.
> The fact that our ancestors were immigrants is
> irrelevant when discussing the invasion that is now
> taking place.
> THE QUESTION IS Do WE keep criminals out of our
> own home?
>
> Did you see the photos of the demonstrators?
> The signs said things like this:
>
> "We did not cross the border.
> The border crossed us"
>
> "This is our land. Gringos should leave"
>
> "All Europeans who came here since 1492 were
> illegal"
>
> They flew Mexican flags and did the national
> anthem in Spanish.
> Did your ancestors try to change our language?
>
> Do a google search on "Atzlan". In case you do not
> want to bother,
> I will tell you that "Atzlan" is the name of the
> new country,
> that they plan to form after they take the south
> west away from the "gringos".
>
> When will the bloodshed stop in Israel?
> What is it like in South Africa now?
> Did we learn nothing from studying Roman history?
> Do we want the same thing here?
>
> If the number of illegal immigrants,
> that we have now,
> are having boycotts, demonstrations, demanding
> "rights", and claiming to own this country,
> THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE DO NOT STOP MORE FROM
> COMING IN??????
> If they have it so bad here, why are they coming
> in droves?
> If they have it so bad here, why don't they go
> back?
>
>
>
> What we are seeing now is IMPORTED CLASS STRUGGLE.
>
> To understand what happens to a nation that
> becomes engulfed in CLASS STRUGGLE
> read the Communist Manifesto.
> Their demonstrations and boycotts were on May
> First.
> May First is a communist holiday.
>
> The FTAA would open our borders totally
>
> Visit:
> http://www.stoptheftaa.org/
> and
> http://www.stoptheftaa.org/default.html
>
> Unfortunately, many Congressmen have accepted this
> hype that the so-called Free Trade Agreements (FTAs)
> are just designed to open up markets for American
> exports.
>
> ----------------------
> One Country with a Sensible Immigration Policy
>
> [Unlike the United States, which doesn't know its
> benighted butt from a hole in a tortilla, there is a
> country which does have a sane and sensible
> immigration policy. Here are some of its rules:
> PERHAPS WE SHOULD ADOPT THE SAME RULES]
>
> 1. If you migrate to this county, you must speak
> the national language.
>
> 2. You have to be a professional or an investor. No
> unskilled workers allowed.
>
> 3. There will be no special bilingual programs in
> schools, no special ballots for elections.
> All government business must be conducted in the
> common national language.
>
> 4. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote, no
> matter how long they live here.
>
> 5. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political
> office.
>
> 6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the
> taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps,
> no health care, or other government assistance
> programs.
>
> 7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it
> must be an amount equal to 40,000 times
> the daily minimum wage.
>
> 8. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that
> will be okay, BUT options will be
> restricted. You cannot own waterfront property. That
> is reserved for citizens born
> in this country.
>
> 9. Foreigners may not protest: no demonstrations,
> no waving a foreign flag, no political
> organizing, no badmouthing of its national
> policies. If you do, you will be sent back home.
>
> 10. If you come to this country illegally, you will
> be hunted down and sent straight to jail.
>
> Sound harsh? Insensitive? Inhumane?
>
> The above laws governing immigration happen to be
> those of����
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ... our good neigbor to the south � MEXICO!
>
>
> mann david <dmann51@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Yeh John and you are one of the symptoms and
> causes of
> looming tyrany - like "put "illegals" on five years
> of
> hard labor building a wall" - etc.- - and the rest
> of
> your opinions.
>
> --- John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Signs of tyranny looming
> >
> > If you don't have 15 minutes to look this over,
> > someday when you
> > have the time and not the content, you'll wish you
> > had.
> >
> > "The greatest menace to freedom is an inert
> people."
> >
> > Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis
> >
> > If you don't want to read all the evidence, scroll
> > all the way down
> > and follow the 2 links for this imperative
> > information.
> >
> > PRE-SCRIPT When the time comes it will be
> imperative
> > that you stand
> > up for what you believe in. What are you going to
> > do? I understand
> > it is easy to be lazy about these things in the
> > present. When
> > circumstances become apparent you must not be
> lazy.
> > Our brethren
> > and posterity are going ask more from our young
> > generation than have
> > been demanded from any previous American
> > generations. When the time
> > comes,know your Rights, be prepared to Act, and
> > expect to do your
> > part.
>
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Message 4
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." prez@usa-exile.org
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 10:20am(PDT)
Subject: A Day in the Life: 5/17/6
GOVERNMENT OF THE USA IN EXILE
Free Americans
Reaching Out to Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free
Via <prez@usa-exile.org>
May 17, 2006
From: Rick Davis <rdavis@yin.or.jp>
Date: May 17, 2006 12:40:03 AM EST
To: Pine Ponderosa <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: 9/11 propaganda overdrive
So what's this? It appears that Judicial Watch is pimping for the Bush
regime. This must be part of the new propaganda drive to counter the
growing influence of the 9/11 truth movement. In fact, nothing new
appears to have been released at all -- from all appearances these are
the same security camera frames that have been out there all along. And
the claims made in this article are simply absurd. Nice try, but people
have to be pretty gullible to buy this.
DOD Releases 9/11 Video
POSTED: 10:34 am MDT May 16, 2006
After years of rumors on the internet and elsewhere, the U.S.
Department of Defense has released videotapes of American Airlines
Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon on September 11th, 2001. The release is
part of a Freedom of Information Act request by the watchdog group
Judicial Watch.
Conspiracy theorists have speculated that the Pentagon was hit by a
truck bomb, or a fighter jet or some other type of explosive device.
Many claim that Flight 77 never existed and that plane debris was never
found.
American Flight 77 left Washington-Dulles for Los Angeles, California
at 8:20am. It crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37am, killing all 64
people on board and 120 on the ground. Small pieces of the plane were
found at the Pentagon, but large pieces of the airliner were
incinerated in the explosion.
One of the reasons that the video had not been released up to this
point was the Department of Defense claimed that it could have harmed
the trial of would-be hijacker Zacarias Moussaoui. Jurors in his case
all live and/or work in the Washington D.C. area.
We will post the videotape here on kfoxtv.com just a soon as it is
released.
http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/9224534/detail.html
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From: APFN <apfn@apfn.org>
Date: May 17, 2006 12:55:35 AM EST
To: APFN Yahoogroups <apfn-1@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: George Noory <george@coasttocoastam.com>
Subject: [911TruthAction] 9-11 Pentagon Footage - COAST TO COAST AM
COAT TO COAST AM
9-11 Pentagon Footage
Wed May 17, 2006 02:48
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495;article=101227
9-11 Pentagon Footage
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
Security camera footage recorded at the time of the 9-11 Pentagon
attack was released today by the Department of Justice after a Freedom
of Information Act request was made by Judicial Watch. The video,
composed of still frames from two different angles, can be viewed at
Judicial Watch, ABC News, and BBC News.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson offer their analysis in two
different articles, Pentagon Video is Giant Psy-Op and Assault On 9/11
Truth Movement.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/160506pentagonimages.htm
First Hour: Chris Farrell of Judicial Watch, Dave vonKleist, and Alex
Jones will share their reactions to the recently released 9-11 Pentagon
tape.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
http://www.911inplanesite.com/
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APFN FLIGHT 77: SHOW ME THE PLANE! Tue Mar 5 05:10:25 2002 68.3.132.0
... [APFN] SOLID DATA SUGGESTING "FLIGHT 77" WAS ACTUALLY A MUCH
SMALLER DRONE JET! ...
APFN: 9/11 FLIGHT 77 - INFO AND LINKS:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm
brad
911 maps -flight explorer
Sun Aug 8, 2004 00:37
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/08-08-04/discussion.cgi.24.html
What do we know about the planes on 911?
A better way to say this, is how did we obtain this info?
We saw maps on CNN/FOX right?....
where did THEY get those maps?
This brings up a critical question.
After looking at a few maps from 911, some things clrearly dont add
up. The maps do not jive with the transcript.
I have found oddities with all 4 flights.
The BIG question is how do these companies get their info? How did it
get to the press in a few hours, and is it reliable?
The original maps i am speaking about are here by a company called
Flight Explorer....
http://www.avweb.com/other/911flightexplorer.html
(There are also other maps done by a company called Flytecomm, there
is an oddity there as well, i will get to that later)
I will only highlight a few points here you can read the new pages for
the rest of the info.
There was a report about flight 93 filing a NEW flight plan. That is
already known, what i found was that the estimated time of arrival
changes, radically, twice. (once is understandable, beacause it filed a
new flight plan)
The estimated arrival times starting at 2:15pm then it changes SOUTH
of Pitt, well *after* it was hijacked and a new flight plan was filed
to 10:28 it stays around that time, until the last blip which indicates
9:34 as the ETA, BUT it crashed much later than that. Why do the
transcripts show a different time than the maps for the ETA and the
destination Airport?
How could the ETA show 9:34 when it was well after that at the time of
the crash? Also, the map shows the plane going over 400mph at the time
of the crash (93). This is when eyewitneses said it had slowed down?
Was it reporting a different plane? Perhaps a war games plane?
How hard would it be to turn off a transponder, and have a plane fly
over another (hijacked plane) and confuse the radar?
Radar will see only 1 blip, if the planes are too close to each other !
Another oddity I saw in the 911-commission report was that flight 175
changed its transpoder codes TWICE. Why would a hijacker do that?
It has been said they were turned OFF so that the plane could not be
tracked, but changed, and turned off are 2 different things. Changing a
tx code would only throw UP red flags to the flight controllers.
Not to mention, if they did not want the flights to be tracked, why
let the passengers use cell phones?
Additionally, I noticed that flight 93 was at 40,000ft at the time
most of these calls were being made. (doing over 350mph) As a cell
phone engineer, this seems impossible to me.
Flight 77...
if you look at the Flight Explorer maps, flight 77 turns over
Cleveland, the problem here is that if you look at the transcrips for
flight 77, it is Indy radar that is looking for him. The transcrips
show that 77 was LOST to radar for several mins. they had even thought
it crashed. From my limited understanding, even if the transpoder is
turned off, the plane should still be visible to radar, but the
controllers in different cities talking to each other could not find
it.
Now, this map below is from Flytecomm. This data shows flight 77
turning around in Indy?
Flytecomm Flight 77 NY times
http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/nat_FLIGHT_1102_aa77.html
Clearly there is a discrepancy. Why would there be a difference
between these 2 maps, and the transcripts as well?
Isnt this what these companies do? track flights?
this is from the flight 77 transcript, though they are speaking about
flight 11...
9:11:25 �� Indianapolis Control, Dacos Radar Associate:
there's no flight plan in the machine right now and ��9:11:28 ��
Indianapolis Control, Henderson Sector Radar Associate: yeah I just
looked at that, too.
Does this support Gerard Holmgrens idea that flight 11 and 77 were
never scheduled?
http://sydney.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=36354&group=webcast
INDY radar? didnt the plane turn over cleveland?
Thats what we were told, and also what flight explorer shows?
Anyone know how these guys get their data?
Anyone want to email them and ask them why the discrepancy?
I am not accusing them of anything, but they could have been tricked?
For a full idea of the flight paths, and what may have happened. See
the new pages here...
http://airgames.bravehost.com/
http://airgames.batcave.net/
see Prof Dewdneys work on cell phone calls
http://physics911.org/net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6
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suggested reading (related)...
Flight11 the Twin Flight (with comments)
http://physics911.org/net/modules/weblog/details.php?blog_id=28
The Cleveland Airport Mystery
http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=323
Cheers,
Brad
http://911index.batcave.net
http://physics911.org/net/modules/weblog/
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From: "dahbud_mensch" <dahbud_mensch@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue May 16, 2006 7:57 am
Subject: When Will Bush Legalize Marijuana? dahbud_mensch
When Will Bush Legalize Marijuana?
by dahbud mensch
It has come to our attention if enough people break the law, the
government will change the law; especially if it benefits corporatists.
Smoking medical marijuana, due to recent Bush Administration law
changes on immigration, should be legalized because there are
two-thirds (2/3) more people who have smoked marijuana than have
crossed the border illegally.
Q: How many people smoke marijuana?
A: According to the government, Marijuana is the most frequently used
illegal drug in the United States. Over 83 million Americans over the
age of 12 have tried marijuana at least once and over 12 million
people had used the drug in the month before the survey.
Q: How many people are illegal aliens?
A: There is no specific answer for this question; however, figures
have been projected that range from 7 million people to 32.5 million
people.
Q: How many people are in jail because of marijuana?
A. Information on this figure is sketchy and the only figure I could
locate at this time was from the FBI Uniform Crime Reports which
stated there were 695,201 marijuana arrests during 1997 and 87% were
for possession.
Q: How much do ancient Marijuana laws cost the American taxpayer?
Key Findings in this Analysis:
http://bbsnews.net/bw2002-11-20.html
* It Costs Over $7 Billion Annually to Fund U.S. Marijuana
Prohibition(*)
* Nearly Three Quarters of a Million Marijuana Arrests Occur Each Year
* $4.2 Billion in Lost Productivity Wasted by Locking Them Up
* 135,488 are Currently Behind Bars for Felony Marijuana Offenses
* $2 Billion Annually to House Them
* 20,000 Defendants Locked Up Awaiting Trial for Felony Marijuana
Charges
* It Cost About $85 Million to House Them
* $2 Billion Likely Cost for Marijuana Arrests Since 1998
* An Estimated $257 Million Spent on Probation Costs From 1998-2001
(*) - Costs do not include disposition of misdemeanor marijuana cases.
This analysis goes well beyond what we already know of the arrests for
marijuana each year. (Chart-2) The FBI Uniform Crime Report puts that
number at 723,626 for 2001(ad), a slight decrease from 734,648 the
year before. Following the trend of previous years, about nine out of
ten of those arrests were for possession alone.
Q: What are the number of drug deaths during an average year in the
U.S.?
Source: NIDA Research Monographs
* Tobacco kills about 390,000.
* Alcohol kills about 80,000.
* Sidestream smoke from tobacco kills about 50,000.
* Cocaine kills about 2,200.
* Heroin kills about 2,000.
* Aspirin kills about 2,000.
* Marijuana kills 0. There has never been a recorded death due to
marijuana at any time in US history.
* All illegal drugs combined kill about 4,500 people per year, or
about one percent of the number killed by alcohol and tobacco. Tobacco
kills more people each year than all of the people killed by all of
the illegal drugs in the last century.
If the Bush Administration can change a law for +/- 10 million people
crossing the border, then why can't the Bush Administration change the
law for the +/- 80 million people who smoke marijuana and those who
require medical marijuana?
Become Educated, Visit: http://www.norml.org/
Posted at: http://www.flyingsnail.com/
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Solidarity Street Demonstrations to Demand US Keep Hands
Off Venezuela and Cuba
From: Stephen Lendman <lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net>
Date: May 17, 2006 6:22:55 AM EST
Subject: SENDING MY LATEST ARTICLE
Hello to all -
Sending my latest article on solidarity street
protests demanding US keep its hands off Venezuela and
Cuba.
For those who don't know it, Hugo Chavez is the real
thing and that's why US hates him - he's a real
democrat who works to help his people as all leaders
should do. He refuses to surrender nation's
sovereignty to imperial US or hand over his oil riches
to our Big Oil. Unacceptable to a predatory nation
wanting to rule the world. We've tried and failed 3
times to oust him. 4th attempt now in works as I've
learned. Chavez knows too.
Quick comment on Cuba. I'm not a fan of undemocratic
strongman rule but Castro is no tyrant. If you're a
low income person and you want a first rate education
free to highest level and if you happen to get sick
once in a while you're a hellova lot better off in
Cuba than here - first rate education system and
health care. WHO ranks Cuba ahead of US. We rank
lowest in industrialized world and sinking fast. So
much for neoliberal free market nonsense. It's only
"free" if you can pay for it. That ain't my kind of
free.
Steve
Solidarity Street Demonstrations To Demand US Keep
Hands Off Venezuela and Cuba - by Stephen Lendman
Maybe it's just a coincidence that just days before an
international expression of solidarity demanding the
US keep its hands off Venezuela and Cuba, Rep. Dan
Burton (a right wing Republican in good standing)
introduced an anti-Venezuelan resolution in the US
House of Representatives. His resolution on May 11
was just another step along the way in the Bush
administration's fourth attempt to oust President Hugo
Chavez as the democratically elected leader of the
Venezuelan people. The resolution shows at least two
things: that the US government's stated commitment to
democracy is farcical and empty on its face and that
any resemblance in it between the truth about the
Chavez government's achievements in combatting drug
trafficking and money laundering (and all else for
that matter) and the malicious inaccuracies and
misstatements of facts in the Burton resolution is in
writing for all to see.
Of course, the whole notion of the US making a
determined effort to eliminate so-called ellicit drugs
is even more absurd as I've explained several times
before in other writing. Dan Burton and his
Republican cohorts know quite well that doing that
would be counter to the real US policy of protecting
the ellicit trade to guarantee the huge profits from
it flow unobstructed into the US economy. The
so-called "war on drugs" is really a war to keep the
stuff flowing freely.
On May 20 the People Will Have Their Say
So in glorious and committed counterpoint to the
shameless Burton resolution, large demonstrations will
take place on the streets of Washington, DC and Los
Angeles on May 20 demanding "US Hands Off Venezuela
and Cuba." A broad coalition of progressive
organizations and noted individuals have organized
them including: Venezuela, Cuba and Latin America -
oriented solidarity groups and other groups supporting
and fighting for the rights of blacks, Latinos, women,
immigrants and the civil rights of all people. In
addition, prominent activist figures will also
participate including Noam Chomsky, Cindy Sheehan and
Danny Glover.
And on the same day, there will be similar
international solidarity actions in Venezuela, Cuba,
Colombia, Australia, Canada and other countries.
These demonstrations around the world are historic as
they reflect a growing movement to combat US imperial
aims in Latin America, Central America and the
Caribbean. It was in those regions that offshore US
imperialism first took flight once it left the
incubator of the lands it stole from its original
native inhabitants whose only offense was having lived
on them for the past 20 - 30,000 years. Poor Mexico
paid the price first for its geographical sin (in the
words of its former dictator Porfirio Diaz) of being
"so far from God (and) so close to the US." That poor
choice of its country's borders resulted in their
ending up enclosing half their former territory. I
guess the Mexicans never really wanted California and
the rest it lost anyway.
On May 20, the voices of people yearning to be free
from the yoke of a global criminal enterprise
otherwise known as the United States of America will
take to the streets in an expression of their
commitment. These voices will resonate in solidarity
against clear US aggressive and hostile intentions
against Venezuela and Cuba aiming to crush their
revolutions and the burgeoning one in Bolivia to keep
them from spreading throughout the region. The stakes
are very high on both sides. Call it a war between
the rights of free people determined to remain so
against a powerful and predatory neighbor that has
other ideas and will ruthlessly pursue all means to
achieve them. On May 20, the voices in the streets
will have their say,
. and the sound heard will be: no mas - no more, and
they're willing to fight for it. It also happens to
be the day the Bush administration intends to release
its so-called "Commission for Assistance for a Free
Cuba" report.
A little translation is in order. By assistance,
Washington means new policy sanctions against the
Castro government (the longest standing thorn in its
side) and its commitment to be the sole authority to
decide what economic, social and political priorities
are best for that country. It doesn't matter what the
Cuban people want. After all, they only live there,
which in Washington - think means nothing.
It doesn't matter what the Venezuelan people want
either, unless they're willing to forego all the
benefits they now have and allow them to be replaced
by the poverty and human misery they had before Hugo
Chavez came into office and changed everything. Don't
bank any time soon on that happening as the
overwhelming majority of the Venezuelan people twice
democratically elected Hugo Chavez as their president
and want to keep him as their leader. And why
wouldn't they. Before him, they were repressed and
desperate, and now they're the beneficiary of his
wonderful economic, political and social policies that
have transformed their lives for the better. They're
not about to give that up without a fight. But
Washington policy makers may not understand that, and
even if they do, are likely to take that fight to the
people and try to prevail by any means possible,
regardless of the consequences.
The One Threat Above All Others Washington Fears
Washington also fears another threat: the one it fears
most above all others - a good example that may spread
and become unstoppable, so it must be crushed and not
allowed to advance further. It follows that it now
views any collaboration between Venezuela and Cuba
(and now a likely tripartite alliance with Bolivia) as
unacceptable as the benefits from it to their people
will only encourage a further spread of them to other
nations that may want the same things. Any why not?
When governments improve the lives of their people,
why would they ever want or be willing to give up what
they gained.
So the battle lines are now drawn, and the importance
of what's at stake will play out in the streets around
the world on May 20. Those demonstrations mark a
significant first step beginning and hopefully a
turning point that will lead to a mass movement of
millions of working people inside the US and around
the world unwilling any longer to accept being
subjugated by US imperial rule. Hopefully they will
follow on and build from the historic US nationwide
street demonstrations fighting for the rights of
immigrant workers demanding equity and justice and
being willing to accept nothing less. It may be one
new civil rights movement growing from another and
mushrooming into a giant national and worldwide
expression of the people here, throughout the region,
and spreading everywhere fighting for the rights they
deserve. An epochal struggle may have begun, and the
path ahead for it is fraught with danger. It's the
people against a powerful giant predator willing to
accept nothing less than total global domination with
no "outliers" going their own way allowed. Stay
tuned. The people may have other ideas.
Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at
lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog
site at sjlendman.blogspot.com.
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From: "marguerite hampton" <ecopilgrim@aabol.com>
Date: May 16, 2006 2:59:27 PM EST
To: "ecopilgrim" <ecopilgrim@aabol.com>
Subject: Battle Cry for Theocracy
�
Another chilling example of how people's minds
are being molded to hate. How do we counter
an event such as this which indelibly impacts
the minds of those in attendance influenced by
"mass response" which appears to be staged?
�
Note that a message from President G.W.
Bush was sent to this group encouraging them.
What is the motive behind this desecration of
the Christian Faith supposedly based in love
and compassion for others?
�
�
Thanks to Dr. Michael Ellis in Australia for this one.
�
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:16:57 -0700
�� From: "Michael" <mindquest@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Battle Cry for Theocracy
�
Editor's Note: In this opinion piece, a young activist explores the
frightening world of a Christian evangelical youth movement that is
holding
rock concerts and rallies at city halls nationwide this weekend. This
is the
first reported column in a series of two. Read what BattleCry attendees
are
saying about this series of columns.
�
�� Part I: Battle Cry for Theocracy
����By Sunsara Taylor
����Truthdig.com
�
����Thursday 11 May 2006
�
����If you've been waiting to get alarmed until the Christian fascist
movement started filling stadiums with young people and hyping them up
to do
battle in "God's army," wait no longer.
�
����In recent weeks, BattleCry, a Christian fundamentalist youth
movement,
has attracted more than 25,000 people to mega-rally rock concerts in San
Francisco and Detroit, and this weekend it plans to fill Wachovia
Stadium in
Philadelphia.
�
����The leaders of BattleCry claim that their religion and values are
under
attack, but amid spectacular light shows, Hummers, Navy SEALs and
military
imagery on stage, it is BattleCry that has declared war on everyone
else.
Its leader, Ron Luce, insists: "This is war. And Jesus invites us to get
into the action, telling us that the violent - the 'forceful' ones -
will
lay hold of the kingdom."
�
����BattleCry is a part of the evangelical organization Teen Mania, and
you
can learn a lot about the kind of society that Teen Mania is fighting
for by
reading up on its Honor Academy, a non-accredited educational
institution
that offers directed internships to 700 undergraduate and graduate youth
each year. Among the academy's tenets: Homosexuality and masturbation
are
sins. Interns are forbidden to listen to secular music, watch R-rated
movies
or date; men can't use the Internet unsupervised; the length of women's
skirts is regulated. The logic behind this - that men must be protected
from
the sin of sexual temptation - is what drives Islamic fundamentalists to
shroud women in burkhas!
�
����Teen Mania and BattleCry are multimillion-dollar operations that
send
more than 5,000 missionaries to more than 34 countries each year. Their
supporters and members are some of the most powerful and extreme
religious
lunatics in the country. BattleCry's "partners" include Pat Robertson
(who
got a call from Karl Rove to discuss Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito
before the nomination was made public), Charles Colson (who as President
Richard Nixon's lawyer was knee-deep in the Watergate scandal and who
went
to jail for obstruction of justice in the Pentagon Papers case), and
Jerry
Falwell (who blamed Sept. 11 on homosexuals, feminists, pagans and
abortionists). BattleCry's events have been addressed by former First
Lady
Barbara Bush (via video) as well as former President Gerald Ford. This
weekend's event will include Franklin Graham, who has ministered to
George W
� Bush and publicly proclaimed that Islam is an "evil religion."
�
����What most of these figures have in common is their insistence that
the
Bible be read literally and obeyed as the inerrant word of God. And,
because
Ron Luce leads youth to say in prayer, "I will keep my eyes on the
battle,
submitting to Your code even when I don't understand," it would be
foolish
to expect that there is any part of the Bible's literal horrors this
movement would be unwilling to enforce, including stoning disobedient
children and non-virgin brides (Deuteronomy 21:18-21 and 22:13-21),
executing gays (Leviticus 20:13), and keeping slaves (Peter 2:18).
�
����Luce's followers staged a protest in March on the steps of San
Francisco
s City Hall because gay weddings had taken place there. Their answer to
the
scourge of rape and violence against women is to end the right of
divorce,
spread ignorance and insist on virginity - the very things that will
entrap
more women in these nightmares. And this Friday, they are planning
rallies
at 50 city halls nationwide.
�
����Of course, like the president, who gave Ron Luce an appointment to
the
White House Advisory Commission on Drug-Free Communities, BattleCry
tells
its share of bald-faced lies. For one, it claims that "a society
fortified
by Biblical principals and a strong moral code ... is the heritage our
forefathers fought and died to secure for us." But the word "God" never
appears in the Constitution. After three and a half months of debate
about
what should go into the document that would govern the land, the framers
drafted a secular constitution.
�
����BattleCry also claims America has been �set aside for God's
purposes -�
a country established for good and fruitfully blessed so that we might
take
God's message to the ends of the earth." It is revealing that for all
its
talk about the value of life and the evils of violent imagery, BattleCry
never speaks against the real violence and loss of life being inflicted
by U
S. troops in Iraq.
�
����Still, there is one thing that BattleCry gets right: This country
is in
the midst of a deep moral crisis. We are indeed living through times
when
business-as-usual is unconscionable.
�
����As the Bush regime wages unjust wars and conducts torture in our
names,
as it leaves New Orleans to rot and drags us closer each day to a
theocracy
in which abortion and birth control are banned, science is pulled under
and
gays are persecuted, it is no wonder that young people are searching for
meaning and morality. However, the truth is that youth will not find the
morality they need in a stadium listening to Ron Luce preach about
religious
war and intolerance. And they won't find it while buying BattleCry's
keepsake dog tags.
�
����These young people need to be challenged to look around themselves
and
think for themselves.
�
����I am confident that if they do, many of them may find that the truly
moral way to live is to throw their tremendous energies and dreams of a
better world into stopping this madness and driving out the Bush regime.
�
����This generation �- and its counterparts around the world -� will
have to
live with the consequences of this culture war, one way or another.
�
����--------
�
����Sunsara Taylor writes for Revolution newspaper and sits on the
advisory
board of The World Can't Wait - Drive Out the Bush Regime.
�
�
�-----------------------------------------------------------------------
------
�
Editor's Note: This is the second in a series of reported columns about
the
Christian fundamentalist movement BattleCry, which has produced several
massive Christian Rock shows across the country this year. For the more
info
on BattleCry and its activities, check out this first column in the
series
here. Read what BattleCry attendees are saying about this column.
�
�
�
��Part II: Fear and Loathing at Philadelphia's BattleCry
����By Sunsara Taylor
����Truthdig.com
�
����Saturday 13 May 2006
�
����It began with fireworks so loud and startling I screamed. Lights and
smoke followed and a few kids were pulled up on stage from the crowd.
One
was asked to read a letter.
�
����This was the letter that opened the event. Its author was George
Bush.
Yes, the president of the United States sent a letter of support,
greeting,
prayer, and encouragement to the BattleCry event held at Wachovia
Spectrum
Stadium in Philadelphia on May 12. Immediately afterwards, a preacher
took
the mic and led the crowd to pray. Among other things, he asked them to
Thank god for giving us George Bush."
�
����On his cue, about 17,000 youths from upwards of 2,000 churches
across
America and Canada directed their thanks heavenward in unison.
�
����Throughout the three-and-a-half hours of BattleCry's first session,
there was only one analogy that fit the experience: This must have been
what
it felt like to watch the Hitler Youth, filled with self-righteous
pride,
proclaim the supremacy of their beliefs and their willingness to shed
blood
for them.
�
����And lest you think this is idle paranoia, BattleCry founder Ron Luce
told the crowds the next morning (May 13) that he plans to launch a
blitzkrieg" in the communities, schools, malls, etc. against those who
don't
share his theocratic vision of society.
�
����Blitzkrieg
�
����Nothing like a little Nazi imagery to whip up the masses. (Editor's
note: Commenter Vira (#9278) makes a valid point. "Blitzkrieg" is a
German
word--not Nazi, per se. And though the term is almost indelibly linked
in the
popular imagination to Nazi tactics, Wikipedia.org notes that the term
"is
used in many other non-military contexts.")
�
����But back to the first rally on May 12. Shortly after sitting down,
an
imposingly-sized man named Tom, who appeared to be BattleCry security,
sat
down next to me and my friends, and asked us if we were planning any
disturbances. I don't know how BattleCry & Co. knew I was here, but
they had
apparently recognized me from my appearance on The O'Reilly Factor
(video
link) in March. I told Tom that we weren't planning any disturbances,
and
that no, I wouldn't like to meet with Luce after the rally, nor did I
want
to give him my phone number. Seemingly satisfied, he ambled off. But
later
on, as I rose to go to the bathroom, I caught sight of Tom following
me. It
was very unsettling, to say the least.
�
����(While in the bathroom, I saw something equally unsettling--a
pre-teen
girl wearing a shirt being sported by many attendees that night: Jesus
on
the cross, robes waving, and emblazoned across the front, the words
"Dressed
to Kill.")
�
����After my bathroom break, Tom, my helpful minder, was replaced by an
eerily-cheerful young woman who was also obviously BattleCry personnel.
She
claimed to be simply making sure that my friends and I were happy. She
would
stop by several times over the course of the concert. I wonder if all
attendees got that kind of VIP treatment.
�
����But Onto the Show
�
����The first rock band that sang, Delirious, got the crowd festive and
up
on their feet with lyrics that were also projected on the large screens
so
that everyone could join in:
�
����"We're an army of God and we're ready to die.... Let's paint this
big
ol' town red.... We see nothing but the blood of Jesus.... "
�
����In between musical acts, Luce, the BattleCry founder, hammered away
at
the dominant theme of the night: his contention that "pew-sitters....
passive Christians.... the Christians who just want love, joy,
peace.... "
were the problem, and that the world needed more radical and extreme
god-worshippers - those who would be obedient and fully submit to
Christ.
�
����Luce would have us believe that everything went off track when the
Bible-toting people of my grand-parents' generation were replaced by the
pew-sitters" of the Baby Boom generation. These are the people who,
according to Luce, just wanted to passively benefit from the "love, joy
and
peace" message of Christianity without actively surrendering their
wills and
their selves completely upon Christ's altar and working in His name.
�
����Yeah, if only people would stop practicing "love, joy and peace."
Wouldn
t that make the world a better place....
�
����Luce used this critique of pew-sitting Christians to assuage the
doubts
of the youths at the rally who may have been feeling uncertain about
their
commitment to the Church. 'Don't worry,' he was telling them, 'you'e
been
amongst pew-sitters-watered-down Christians. Welcome to the reign of
total
submission to the Lord.'
�
����It was a mantra Luce repeated all through the night: the need to
submit
one's self fully to Jesus, to belong completely to Him.
�
����"He doesn't just want to be in your heart, He wants to own your
heart...
There's only one good reason to come to Christ: because He's the
rightful
owner of your life." "You don't have to know much about Jesus, just
enough
to surrender your whole life."
�
����Throughout this section, a loud crowd from the back of the stadium
would
periodically erupt, "We are warriors!"
�
����After tugging at countless emotional strings, Ron insisted � with
the
humility of Taliban members who submit to "Allah's command to stone
adulterers" � "You are the one talking to God, I am just going to help
you
with the words."
�
����There was a session when, after a great crescendo, the stadium was
brought to silence. Ron instructed individuals to stand up when they
felt
the spirit and cry out, "I want the cross!" The voices of hundreds rose
up
over the course of 10 minutes. These young people, declaring death unto
themselves and re-birth in Christ, were called down to the floor of the
stadium, directed to get down on their knees, and to put their heads
down
and pray some more.
�
����Luce put great emphasis on following every word in the Bible,
treating
it as an "instruction book," even when a person doesn't understand or
agree.
This is, of course, the the logic that leads to the stoning of gays,
non-virgin brides, disobedient children and much more because the Bible
says
so.
�
����Interesting enough, it seems that not even Luce has faith in that
admonition. During the afternoon preceding the first rally on May 12,
Luce
and about 300 BattleCry acolytes (almost entirely youths) rallied in
front
of Philadelphia's Constitution Hall - the location having been chosen
because Luce wants to "restore" the Founding Fathers' vision of a
religious
society (never mind that the Founders enshrined in the Constitution an
explicitly secular framework of government).
�
����I and about 20 people representing various anti-Bush, atheistic and
anti-Iraq war factions made our way into the rally and began interacting
with the youths assembled. Some said openly that it was OK that George
Bush
s lives have cost the lives of thousands of Americans and Iraqis. Why
was it
OK? Because "God put him [Bush] there."
�
����We then decided to ask them a little about this God, and his
instruction book," as Luce calls it. Specifically, we asked them if they
supported the parts of Deuteronomy and Leviticus that spell out, for
example
� death sentences for women who dare to enter the city while
menstruating.
The most memorable response came from Luce himself. (We were standing
face
to face in the plaza - he had recognized me from my O'Reilly
appearance.)
�
����"This is your Bible," I told him. "You have to defend this."
�
����He smiled, smugly, and almost looked taken aback that I would
challenge
him like this.
�
����"You can't defend this," I continued.
�
����A Biblical literalist, Luce couldn't disavow something in his
instruction book," but neither did he want to appear (I imagine) to
condone
Iron-age barbary. So he stayed quiet, until, after I prodded him
further, he
changed the subject.
�
����"Why are you so angry?" he asked.
�
����My point made, I walked away.
�
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From: Rick Davis <rdavis@yin.or.jp>
Date: May 16, 2006 8:36:58 PM EST
Subject: 9/11 and drugs
May 16, 2006 -- Interesting confluence of activities surround Sky Way's
aircraft confiscated in Mexico with 5.5 tons of cocaine and pre-911
Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) investigation of Israeli art
students involved in suspicious activities in Dallas-Fort Worth area
and Venice, Florida in close proximity to some of the 911 hijackers.
That DEA investigation was shut down on orders from Attorney General
John Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller.
This is a further clue that those who planned and carried out the 911
attacks were heavily involved with drug smuggling. These reportedly
include elements of Russian-Israeli-Ukrainian (RUIM) organized crime,
Latin American narco-dealers, U.S. operatives of the radical right-wing
Israeli Kach Party, Saudi billionaire businessmen and Pakistani
intermediaries, and political officials close to the GOP in Texas and
Florida. For example, links have been established between Red Sea
Management in Costa Rica, a company linked to the Sky Way cocaine
plane, and the Israeli embassy in San Jose.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
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From: Henri the Celt <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Date: May 16, 2006 6:46:59 PM EST
To: AAAHenri <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Subject: Fw: Mitre Corp.
Is MITRE Corp. the Trojan Horse of
9/11?
Posted By: Christopher Bollyn��� From: Judith Sharpe
Date: Friday, 1 April 2005, 1:38 p.m.
IS DEFENSE CONTRACTOR MITRE CORP.
THE TROJAN HORSE OF 9/11?
By Christopher Bollyn
American Free Press
http://www.americanfreepress.net
Did a central controller with "super user" privileges of the command
and control systems of the Department of Defense, NORAD, the Air Force,
and the FAA, control the aerial attacks of 9/11? There is only one
agency that has that capability � a little-known private company known
as MITRE Corp.
There are basically two versions of events surrounding the terror
attacks of September 11, 2001. There is the government version,
propagated by the controlled media, which claims that 19 Arab
terrorists, organized by Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan, hijacked 4
passenger aircraft and used them to attack the World Trade Center and
the Pentagon. This version, used to launch the "war on terror" and two
invasions in the Middle East, is challenged by a lack of evidence.
On the other hand, a host of unofficial explanations, based on
available evidence, make up what can be called the "inside job" or
anti-government version. This version basically claims that agents
embedded within the U.S. military and intelligence organizations
conspired to carry out the terror attacks.
The two foreign nations most often implicated in the unofficial
explanations of 9/11 are Israel and Britain. Both countries are
supporters and beneficiaries of the Bush administration's "war on
terror."
For the Israelis, Iraq, a major threat, was drastically reduced in
power and put under military occupation. For the British, a oil-rich
territory, Iraq's southern region of Basra, which it originally
occupied in 1914, was reoccupied and its immense oil assets put under
control of the Crown.
Royal Dutch Shell and BP, formerly named British Petroleum, are two
companies said to be controlled by the Crown, which have posted record
profits since 9/11.
While both Britain and Israel have substantial assets and powerful
organizations in the United States, proponents of the anti-government
version have not explained how a foreign power could manipulate the
computer systems of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the
North American Aerospace Defense Command ( NORAD), and the U.S. Air
Force, and thereby control the aerial attacks of 9/11.
When American Free Press interviewed Eckehardt Werthebach, former
president of Germany�s domestic intelligence service, in December 2001,
he said �the deathly precision� and �the magnitude of planning� behind
the 9/11 attacks would have required �years of planning.�
Such a sophisticated operation, Werthebach said, would require the
�fixed frame� of a state intelligence organization, something not found
in a �loose group� of terrorists like the one allegedly led by Mohammed
Atta.
Many people would have been involved in the planning of such an
operation, Werthebach said. He pointed to the absence of leaks as
further indication that the attacks were �state organized actions.�
Andreas von B�low, who served on Germany's parliamentary commission
and oversaw the three branches of the German secret service, told AFP
that he believed that Mossad, Israel's intelligence service, was behind
the terror attacks. The attacks, he said, were carried out to turn
public opinion against the Arabs and boost military and security
spending.
�You don�t get the higher echelons,� von B�low said, referring to the
�architectural structure� which masterminds such terror attacks. At
this level, he said, the organization doing the planning, such as
Mossad or British intelligence, is primarily interested in affecting
public opinion.
In a recent article in AFP, " The Perfect Terrorist Plan To Level the
Twin Towers Created In 1976" by Greg Szymanski, it was reported that
the U.S. Army devised a plan in 1976 to bring down the towers using
commercial airliners and box cutters as weapons.
At the time, George H.W. Bush was head of the CIA and Martin R.
Hoffmann was Secretary of the Army. Hoffmann told AFP that he did not
recall being involved in this planning reportedly done by the U.S.
Army.
An architect, even of destruction, needs a contractor. Proponents of
the anti-government version of 9/11 provide evidence to support their
claims, but do not explain how the U.S. military and civil aviation
control systems could have been hijacked to allow the aerial attacks to
occur.
Because the attacks involved systems used by the FAA, NORAD, and the
U.S. Air Force, the conspirators would have needed "super user" access
to the command and control centers of these three separate
organizations.
Super user means the most privileged user on a computerized data
system. The super user has complete access to all files on the system.
For the previously mentioned agencies, and virtually all other U.S.
defense and intelligence organizations, there is one such possible
super user: a little-known private not-for-profit organization, based
in Bedford, Mass., known as MITRE Corp. MITRE also has a headquarters
in McLean, Va., on a campus it shares with Northrop Grumman.
The MITRE Corp. is a major defense contracting organization headed by
the former Director of Central Intelligence (DCI), Dr. James Rodney
Schlesinger. Schlesinger, who was reportedly made DCI at the request of
Henry Kissinger in 1973, later served as Secretary of Defense.
Schlesinger, a former director of strategic studies at the RAND Corp.,
was described in a 1973 biography as a "devout Lutheran," although he
was born in New York in 1929 to immigrant Jewish parents from Austria
and Russia. Schlesinger earned three degrees from Harvard University.
Schlesinger's father, an accountant, founded the accounting firm
Schlesinger & Haas, and was a trustee and chairman of the budget of the
Stephen Wise Free Synagogue. His father was also a member of the New
York State Grand Lodge of Masons.
The MITRE Corp., of which Schlesinger is chairman of the board of
trustees, is connected to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology
(MIT), MIT's Lincoln Laboratory, and Mitretek Systems of Falls Church,
Va.
Schlesinger is a senior advisor for the Lehman Brothers investment
firm and a member of the Defense Policy Board and advisory council for
the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
The MITRE Corp. has provided computer and information technology to
the FAA and the U.S. Air Force since the late 1950's. MITRE is a
Federally Funded Research and Development Center (FFRDC) for the Dept.
of Defense, the FAA, and the Internal Revenue Service.
The chairman of the board of trustees of Mitretek Systems, a spin-off
of MITRE Corp., is Martin R. Hoffmann, who served as Secretary of the
Army when the "perfect terrorist plan" was reportedly prepared in 1976.
MITRE's Command, Control, Communications, and Intelligence (C3I) FFRDC
for the Dept. of Defense was established in 1958. The C3I "supports a
broad and diverse set of sponsors within the Department of Defense and
the Intelligence Community. These include the military departments,
defense and intelligence agencies, the combatant commands, and elements
of both the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the office of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff," according to MITRE's website. "Information
systems technology," it says, "coupled with domain knowledge, underpin
the work of the C3I FFRDC."
The U.S. Air Force maintains its Electronic Systems Center (ESC) at
the Hanscom AFB in Bedford, Mass. The ESC manages the development and
acquisition of electronic command and control (C2) systems used by the
Air Force.
The ESC is the Air Force's "brain for information, command and control
systems," according to Charles Paone, a civilian employee of the ESC.
It is the "product center" for the Air Force's Airborne Warning and
Control System (AWACS) and Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar
System (J-STARS), Paone said.
Asked about MITRE's role at the ESC, Paone said, "MITRE does the
front-end engineering. It's basically our in-house engineer." MITRE
employees operate the computer systems at Hanscom AFB, Paone said.
MIT's Lincoln Laboratories, the parent of MITRE, is located on the
Hanscom AFB.
A second FFRDC, the Center for Advanced Aviation System Development
(CAASD) provides computer engineering and technology to the FAA.
MITRE's support of the FAA began in 1958, when the company was created.
The FAA's Airspace Management Handbook of May 2004, for example, was
written and published by the MITRE Corp.
Jennifer Shearman, MITRE's public relations manager for "corporate
identity" in Bedford, told AFP that MITRE is a "trusted mentor" for the
FAA and is a "unique" provider of "objective and independent"
information for the U.S. civil aviation authority.
MITRE's Bedford headquarters are located near Boston's Logan airport
where the two planes that struck the World Trade Center supposedly
originated. Bedford lies directly under the flight path of westbound
flights leaving Logan.
MITRE developed the technology "to aid controllers in solving problems
while keeping aircraft close to their route, altitude, and speed
preferences." Shearman was unable to say why the MITRE technology
apparently failed on 9/11.
Indira Singh, an "IT consultant" who previously worked on a Defense
Advanced Research Project, and who was employed by J.P. Morgan on 9/11,
in risk management, pointed to MITRE's role at the FAA during the 9/11
Citizens' Commission hearings in New York last September.
"Ptech was with MITRE Corporation in the basement of the FAA for two
years prior to 9/11," Singh said. "Their specific job is to look at
interoperability issues the FAA had with NORAD and the Air Force in the
case of an emergency. If anyone was in a position to know that the FAA
� that there was a window of opportunity or to insert software or to
change anything � it would have been Ptech along with MITRE."
A representative of Ptech could not be reached. [Ptech appears to have
been a Mossad front company created to provide insecure Trojan Horse
software to the U.S. military and intelligence agencies. Ptech has the
typical Arab owners and financiers - and Mossad operators.]
For example, see Michael Goff, former marketing manager at Ptech, Inc.
http://www.goffpr.com/about.asp
Schlesinger bio info: http://www.mitre.org/about/bot/schlesinger.html
MITRE CORP. Website
Articles In This Thread
Is MITRE Corp. The Trojan Horse of 9/11? *PIC*
ChristopherBollyn -- Friday, 1 April 2005, 1:38 p.m.
How Mossad Deceived the U.S. Military on 9/11 *PIC*
ChristopherBollyn -- Friday, 1 April 2005, 11:13 p.m.
WHAT DID YOU OLD BOYS DO WRONG ???
Questionnairy -- Saturday, 2 April 2005, 11:05 a.m.
ISN'T IT ALL JUST "POLE SHIFT" PREPARATION ???
Questionnairy -- Saturday, 2 April 2005, 11:20 a.m.
MAYBE JUST THE GREAT SHIFT IN CONSCIOUSNESS (ASCENSION)
Esclarmonde -- Saturday, 2 April 2005, 11:39 a.m.
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Globalization as Defined in the West
by Cain Mathema
May 16, 2006
Chronicle (Bulawayo,Zimbabwe)
These days the world is bombarded with the advantages of the socalled
globalisation ideology.
Third World countries are instructed to �globalise�, to �liberalise�,
to �open up� their economies to foreign direct investment (FDIs), to
remove price controls and subsidies, and to reduce public expenditure
by selling to the private sector all state companies and other public
businesses.
This, it is said, will bring about the much needed development in these
countries, Zimbabwe included. The IMF and the World Bank force down the
throats of all developing countries the socalled structural adjustment
programmes if they are to be assisted by these institutions, which, by
the way, are controlled by the USA and its allies. These structural
adjustment programmes have never worked for the majority in any country
anywhere in the world. Instead they have made developing countries
semicolonised, seen poverty spreading and deepening among the majority,
but giving more power, authority and huge profits to the foreign
multinational corporations that buy public enterprises in developing
countries for their private shareholders back in the USA and the EU for
a song.
Thanks to our ancestors, the government of Zimbabwe has since abandoned
the structural adjustment, neoliberal globalisation model that it had
adopted in the 1990s. I personally have always been opposed to this
model because it is a neocolonial model, it is a model that keeps
developing countries and families in perpetual poverty while it makes
sure that the pockets of the owners of the multinational corporations
(the upper classes of the USA and the EU) get larger and larger all the
time. This globalisation is a strategy of those who really own the USA
and the EU. It is not our strategy, it is not the strategy for any of
our provinces to follow, it is a disastrous, criminal strategy meant to
keep us in perpetual slavery doing what the masters and mistresses of
our economy in the USA and the EU tell us to do.
Kanaga Raja (The Herald, Zimbabwe, 4 January 2006, p. 9) says the
International Labour Organization (ILO) has reported that global
economic growth is increasingly failing to translate into new and
better jobs that lead to a reduction in poverty. The ILO report says
�That currently, half the world�s workers still do not earn enough to
lift themselves and their families above the US$2aday poverty datum
line.�
�The ILO report found that for every one percentage point of additional
GDP growth, total global employment grew by only 0.30 percentage points
between 1995 and 1999 . . . For millions of workers, new jobs often
provide barely enough income to lift them above the poverty datum line,
or are far below any adequate measure of satisfying and productive
work.�
The question then becomes: When are we going to see the socalled
globalisation benefiting the workers and their families? And the answer
from the sponsors of this new colonialism is most likely that the
masses must learn to wait, they should be patient enough. But while the
masses take heed of this advice, the upper classes of the USA and the
EU cannot wait to pocket as much as they can from the mines, banks and
sweat factories in the developing countries. �Prosperity for all is
around the corner, the masses are told, but they have to wait. One is
tempted to ask why the prosperity that funds wars is ever present with
enough left over to finance an assault on outer space. Prosperity
unused turns into shackles, longer police truncheons, more spacious
prisons and the latest in antipeople weaponry in the form of military
hardware or intellectual riff raff. Or it might turn into space
stations, roundtheclock surveillance and satellites.� (Gazi; 2004:304).
According to Raymond Baker and John Christensen (Mail and Guardian in
Business Chronicle, Zimbabwe, 15 December 2005, p. B5), the West allows
and encourages huge sums of money to be corruptly removed from the
developing countries to developed countries and to be hidden away in
safe havens:
�Five trillion dollars has been corruptly removed from the world�s
poorest countries and lodged permanently in the world�s richest
countries. Western multinational corporations, banks, governments and
individuals are all involved in milking the developing countries dry.
They break all the rules and contracts on earth in order to syphone the
trillions out of the developing countries. Baker (who himself is a US
businessman) is quoted as having said, �Falsified pricing, haven and
secrecy structures and the illicit movement of trillions of dollars out
of developing and transitional economies break the social contract . .
. that Adam Smith incorporated into the core of the freemarket
systems.�
It was reported in the story that six out of 10 US corporations pay no
tax, and the recent Enron scandal demonstrated how cynically major
household names in the US exploit the system.
�Enron used about 800 different �Caribbean financial dumps� to hide its
debts. Baker argues that the West could break the back of poverty
worldwide if there was political will to tackle the abuse of the tax
and banking systems. Instead, Western countries have been all too
willing to turn a blind eye to the original sources of money.�
Baker says, �Laundered proceeds of drug trafficking, racketeering,
corruption and terrorism tag along with other forms of dirty money to
which the US and Europe extend a welcoming hand.�
But as we all know, capitalism can never fight poverty because
capitalism cannot be there without poor people in the first place. For
capitalism to exist somebody has to be dispossessed of all means of
production first and foremost. Those who dispossess others then have to
employ the dispossessed as wage workers. How can a person who owns
means of production want to be a wage worker? It is out of the
question. So the idea of expecting capitalism to do away with poverty
is meaningless, the upper classes of the USA and the EU will not allow
it, and their governments will not allow it. For capitalism, it is
illogical. Full stop. This will be the case for ever even if it means
workers in the USA and the EU are less poor and better organised than
their brothers and sisters in the developing countries.
That is why multinational corporations have been taking some of their
operations to the developing countries (where workers are less
organised and less powerful), and that is why these corporations and
their governments do not want their former colonies to achieve economic
independence as well, they must always remain neocolonies, poor
countries whose main job in the socalled global economy is to be slave
producers of cheap raw materials and importers of expensive
manufactured goods.
According to Jeremy Seabrook (New African, IC Publication, January
2006, p. 21) one other reason why poverty has to be there in
capitalism, inspite of the fact that the West can wipe it out just like
that, is that �. . . the fate of the poor must be maintained, as a
warning and example to all who might otherwise be tempted to drop out,
to relax the vigilance, to withdraw from the competitive ethos that
drives people on to accumulate. It is not ambition that drives the
creation of wealth but the coercive fear of this ghastly version of
poverty, this humanmade construct that creates outcasts of plenty,
human scarecrows brandished as dissenters to urge them to conform to
this, the American or Western Dream. An indispensable component of its
promise of wealth and affluence is its threat of a desperate contrived
and brutal form of poverty . . .�
The Mail and Guardian article (15 December 15 2005, p. B5) says
according to John Christensen �more than 50 percent of the cash
holdings of rich individuals in Latin America is now held offshore and
that about 30 percent of the gross domestic product of subSaharan
African nations disappeared offshore in the second half of the 1990s.
Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are the sole
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Message 5
From: "Cait" ansith@gmail.com
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 10:28am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Need Fuselage Height Data
That was my thinking Dick, in the video (the one showing the "nose cone" it
seems far too close to the ground for it to be the nose of a 757.. the
engines would be embedded in the ground, but I wanted to get some figures
while I'm trying to work out the actual size of the image in the video.
Thanks
-------Original Message-------
From: Dick Eastman
Date: 05/17/06 11:32:21
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Need Fuselage Height Data
The fuselage is 10 feet wide -- front on pictures show the fuselage to be
pear-shaped, but approximately round -- I'd say between 10 and 12 feet
Remember, the engines hang lower than the fuselage.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Cait
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:17 AM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Need Fuselage Height Data
Can someone answer a quick question?
I can't seem to find it online but I know I have it somewhere..
I need to know the height of the fuselage section of the 757 with landing
gear, not the height of the tail.
Thanks,
Cait
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From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 11:15am(PDT)
Subject: FBI Withholding 84 More Tapes of Pentagon on 9/11
This article argues that people must ignore the solid evidence that a smaller object than a jetliner crashed into (was fired into) the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001. Since March 2002 I have argued the opposite. The photographed physical evidence, the security cam pictures (now officially endorsed as genuine by the Pentagon!) and the witness accounts (including those who saw two aircraft approaching the Pentagon) is sufficient evidence to satisfy any impartial grand jury. (Strange that with the official release of the security cam pictures no one is going to those who actually hold the small-plane explanation --instead they are going to those who have refused to be commital. I am somewhat depressed to discover how many people seeing the supposedly famous five security cam pictures do not realize that these are the pictures that were unofficially released in March of 2002 and which make an air-tight case against the official story. See:
Dick Eastman
http://www.bedoper.com/eastman/witnesses/index.html
http://www.bedoper.com/eastman/small_plane/index.html
http://www.bedoper.com/eastman/
FBI Withholding 84 More Tapes of Pentagon on 9/11
Magically Only 1 shows impact so why not release the rest?
Steve Watson / Infowars | May 17 2006
The FBI is withholding at least another 84 surveillance tapes that were seized in the immediate aftermath of the attack on the Pentagon.
There is an ongoing lawsuit to get these tapes released via the Freedom of Information Act. The FBI has admitted in a statement to attorney, Scott Hodes, representative of Mr Scott Bingham who runs the website http://www.flight77.info/, that they have these tapes, that they have already analyzed them and are still keeping them under lock and key.
A great deal of speculation has surrounded reports that on the morning of september 11th, 2001 the FBI visited two private businesses near the pentagon and confiscated several security camera video tapes.
The first is said to be the Cigto gas station with several security cameras aimed in the direction of the pentagon. Flight 77 flew directly over the gas station at an altitude of roughly 50 feet, less than 3 seconds from impact.
Three months after 9/11 The National Geographic and others reported on this, publishing short interviews with the gas station owner, Jose Velasquez.
"His gas station, open only to Department of Defense personnel, is the last structure between the Pentagon and the hillside that, hours later, would become a wailing knoll. "By the time I got outside all I could see was a giant cloud of smoke, first white then black, coming from the Pentagon," he said. "It was just a terrible, terrible thing to be so close to."
"Velasquez says the gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to have recorded the moment of impact. "I've never seen what the pictures looked like," he said. "The FBI was here within minutes and took the film."
The second business was initially believed to be the Sheraton National Hotel which overlooks I395 and the Pentagon. Initial reports pointed out that hotel staff had sat watching the video surveillance in horror before the FBI arrived and shut down the scene.
However, according to FBI statements in response to the FOIA request from Mr Bingham, The hotel in question was not the Sheraton but was in fact the Doubletree in Arlington, VA. AND this video did not capture the impact of the flight. (Maguire, page 7)
According to the same document, the Citgo gas station video DOES NOT show flight 77 impacting the pentagon either. (Maguire, page 6, item 15)
If this is the case then why did the FBI confiscate the gas station and hotel security videos within minutes of the crash and why haven't they subsequently released these videos?
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According to a CNN FOIA request however, the nearby hotel's video DID capture the impact. The following exchange is from a CNN transcript of a report on the 2002 release of the original four frames of Pentagon footage:
MCINTYRE (on camera): These pictures are the first to be made public, but they are not the only images of the plane hitting the Pentagon. Sources tell CNN that the FBI on September 11th confiscated a nearby hotel's security camera videotape, which also captured the attack. So far, the Justice Department has refused to release that videotape. Aaron.
BROWN: Why? Do we have any idea why they won't release it?
MCINTYRE: Well, the claim - we have filed a freedom of information request for it. They claim that it might provide some intelligence to somebody else who might want to do harm to the United States. But officials I talked to here at the Pentagon say they don't see any national security or criminal value to that tape. The FBI tends to hold on to things. But the government may eventually release that tape, and if they do, we'll bring it to you.
BROWN: Jamie, thanks. I must have missed something in how, where the intelligence possibilities are there, but that happens with me sometimes. Thank you for your work today, nice job.
Whichever story you believe, whether the footage does or does not show the impact, the fact that the footage exists is not denied. So something does not tally up here. Both FOIA requests were denied yet we have one FOIA request denial saying the footage does not show the impact, yet a second FOIA request denial saying it does show the impact.
Furthermore, if the footage does not show the impact, we have to ask the question why is the Justice department still withholding it under national security laws?
Now the trial of Zacarious Moussaoui is over, this can also no longer be cited as reason to keep footage under wraps, as was proven yesterday with the release of the extended grainy film to Judicial Watch.
According to the FBI 7 page Maguire statement, of the 85 confirmed tapes seized, only the one released yesterday shows the impact. How unlikely is it that out of another 84 confirmed surveillance tapes directed at the building, none of them captured anything?
After determining that only 13 of the 85 had footage of the crash site, the FBI states that 12 of these only show footage AFTER the impact of flight 77. WHY? Did someone forget to turn them on? ALL TWELEVE OF THEM?
Furthermore how unlikely is it that in Washington DC there were only 13 cameras pointing in the general direction of the most surveilled building in the world? The area is littered with buildings and roads that have their own surveillance systems, in addition to the pentagon itself - does the sole world superpower's military HQ only have a couple of cameras at the front gate?
You can even view live feeds of footage from the Pentagon online right now. The Virginia Department of Transportation (VDOT) CCTV system used to manage the Northern Virginia freeway network had cameras in place that observed the September 11 crash site at the Pentagon. This CCTV system and the VDOT Smart Traffic Center were used as a command center for emergency responders and cleanup and recovery crews following the incident.
View VDOT light pole traffic cams at: TrafficLand Find A Camera (See cameras: ON WASHINGTON BLVD @ I-395 and ON WASHINGTON BLVD @ Pentagon/I-395 and ON WASHINGTON BLVD E @ I-395)
The reason given for the fact that these cameras did not get the impact is because there was no film in them.
Scott Bingham of www.flight77.info/ has stated on his website:
"No one can say for sure why the FBI is reluctant to release the videos. it could just be a matter of policy, or it could have to do - as many suspect - with the notion that keeping the videos from the public is helping to fuel wild conspiracy theories. these theories - that no 757 hit the pentagon - helps discredit the 9/11 truth movement in general, and keeps people's focus away from such topics as WTC building 7."
We are in agreement with Mr Bingham. For over four years we at Infowars and Prisonplanet have remained neutral on the subject of flight 77, agreeing that unanswered questions need to be explored but warning against the Pentagon issue becoming the core focus of the 9/11 truth movement.
The danger is clearly that the government will use its media mouthpieces in particular Fox News to hype this until it becomes the de facto keystone of alternative explanations behind 9/11. At the point when that crescendo reaches its peak crystal clear footage of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon will be released, knocking down the straw man argument that the establishment itself erected.
We need to concentrate on the concrete facts that point towards a cover up of complicity and not on wild speculation that will only hinder the movement as a whole.
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Message 7
From: "Deborah Simon" tapirsaver@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 0:32pm(PDT)
Subject: Troll alert...let's give 'em hell
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/270284_connellyrebut16.html?source=mypi
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Message 8
From: "Phil Aragon" crap2phil@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 1:22pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Flight 77] YES I SAW A BIG F**KING ASS BOEING JET HIT IT!
--- APFN <apfn@apfn.org> wrote:
---------------------------------
[Fwd: Flight 77] YES I SAW A BIG F**KING ASS
BOEING JET HIT IT! �
-------- Original Message -------- Subject:
Flight 77 Date: Tue, 16 May
2006 15:26:07 -0400 From: Greg
Schoenborn <schoenborn@comcast.net> To:
<apfn@apfn.org>
Just so you know,
I saw the plane come down ColumbiaPike, over my head,
full view of the Pentagon in front of me andwatched it
slam into the Pentagon.
YES I SAW AND ANOTHER FRIEND WHO WASIN TRAFFIC NEXT TO
THE HELI-PAD SAW A BIG FUCKING ASS BOEING JET HIT IT!
Enough.
=====================
Who are you. How can we belive you .We have being
living on lie;s for six years now. We need facks not
lies. phil
RE:9/11...NEW PHOTO'S FLIGHT 77 �JudicialWatch, Tue
May 16 14:43
YESI SAW A BIG F**KING ASS BOEING JET HIT IT! �
Greg Schoenborn, TueMay 16 16:45
PlanesDo NOT Vaporize... � Reg, Tue May 16 16:25
9/11Pentagon video goes public for first time � S
Miles Lewis, TueMay 16 16:18
RE:Flight 77 striking the Pentagon on September
11, 2001 � FOREIGN PRESS FOUNDATION, Tue May 16 16:23
Newfootage � Anonymous, Tue May 16 15:58
JudicialWatch page here (mirrored) � brad, Tue
May 16 15:06
[911TruthAction]Videos of United Flight 77 � S
MilesLewis, Tue May 16 16:37
Flight77 � Richard Lozano, Tue May 16 15:52
RE:9/11...NEW PHOTO'S FLIGHT 77 � Lori
R.Price, Tue May 16 16:02
[911TruthAction]9/11 update.... important
news.... � reggie501@optonline.net, Tue May
16 16:30
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Message 9
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 1:57pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: [911-disc] Simulation: New Pentagon video shows no Boeing airli
Hi, Barrington
I too could see/impose a nose to the right of the parking pass ticket
machine in picture #1 -- I satisfied myself that this was not the case by
comparison of that location in pictues 2 and 3.
In the following link you will see an enlargement of the tail fin that
appears in the first picture followed by the second picture with the tail
fin gone.
http://www.bedoper.com/eastman/small_plane/index.html
Also on this page, a true to scale picture of the 155' long 757 next to the
71' high Pentagon, showing that the scale in the 'simulation" is not far off
what the scale would have been had the killer jet been a 757. Done by
engineers at Perdue who participated in the ASCE report.
I very much appreciate you comments and interpretation -- the only one I
have received.
Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
----- Original Message -----
From: "daltrey" <basd1@fastbk.com>
To: <911-disc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [911-disc] Simulation: New Pentagon video shows no Boeing
airliner
> Hi all,
>
> Like many of you, I would like to see the evidence concerning what
> happened on 9/11. I have no quarrel with Dick Eastman, who obviously is
> putting a lot of work into this subject. In fact, my comment here would
> actually be directed to Dick, since I found his e-mail interesting, but
> not for the reasons he suggests.
>
> The problem with any sort of "cut & paste" is that it may be virtually
> impossible to get the projection correct. In any event, I think the
> illustration in the e-mail has the 757 way oversized. (Although the
> general point, that we ought to see two or three frames as the aircraft
> approaches the pentagon seems probably correct.)
>
> But here's the interesting thing (to me). When I went to look at the
> comparison link ("1") that Dick provided I had three observations:
>
> 1. This (smaller) projection of the 757 is probably more accurate
> because the artist attempted to match the 757 tail with the "tail" on
> the video.
>
> 2. I don't think the projection of the 757 in that picture is accurate
> because it seems to have the nose pointed more toward the viewer than
> would be the actual flight path. (Maybe not, since the object seemingly
> hit the pentagon on an angle, but the projection doesn't look quite
> right to me.)
>
> But here's the more interesting thing that struck me about the projection.
>
> 3. With the 757 flashing in and out of the picture, if I accept that
> the grainy "tail" in the official photo is actually the tail of an
> aircraft, then it seems to me I can almost make out the rest of the
> aircraft forward of the "ticket" box in the same gray, grainy texture --
> and it is the superimposed 757 that caused me to "see" this, since it
> points out where the plane in the photo ought to be. (I had always
> understood that row of "grayness" to be a row of trees or bushes.) So,
> instead of convincing me the craft is not in the photo, the composite
> suggests to me that maybe the aircraft >is< in the photo.
>
> I'm not saying that I now think I "see" a 757 in the originally released
> photos. What I'm saying is that I'm now "less convinced" that I >don't<
> see a 757 in the photos. (From what I have read and seen so far, the
> new photo/video release doesn't add anything of substance to the debate.)
>
> Thx.
>
> Barrington
>
> Dick Eastman wrote:
> >
> > ** Simulation.
> >
> > This is what the security camera videotape would have had to have looked
> > like had the killer jet been a Boeing 757.
> >
> > *http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/merc_mercy_/pentstrike3.gif*
> > campare with actual at * 1 * <http://bedoper.com/eastman>* , *
> >
> > *This is what they promised -- a jetliner crashing into the Pentagon
> > (here faked for demonstration purposes) but did not deliver.*
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message 10
From: "Marsha MCClelland" mofmars3@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 3:02pm(PDT)
Subject: In answer to Naveed about who Judith Pfeif is
Woman takes Petition to the Local Newspaper asking Them to Print the Truth about the 911 Cover Up
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=11138
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From: "Joe Stokes" joestokes@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 3:30pm(PDT)
Subject: Loose Change 2E: #1 on GOOGE VIDEO
http://video.google.com/videoranking
Loose Change 2nd Edition has just beat out Stephen Colbert's roast of
George W Bush to make it the #1 Video accessed through GOOGLE.
What's more?
A second version of Loose Change 2nd Edition jumped from 11th to 7th.
And still another version jumped from 76th to 29th in the TOP 100 Video on Google. These leaps occured since yesterday.
Three versions in the top 100.
I was told by someone that when Colbert's Roast video was #1 it was being viewed by more than 50,000 people each day.
People are waking to the TRUTH at an amazing rate.
Everyone keep up the GOOD work.
If anyone receiving this has not yet seen Loose Change 2nd Edition, then you can access any of the three from the link.
http://video.google.com/videoranking
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Message 12
From: "Chris" advokris@aol.com
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 3:34pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Flight 77] YES I SAW A BIG F**KING ASS BOEING JET HIT IT!
Greg:
How long did you observe "the plane"? 1 sec, 5 secs, something else?
Did you keep the plane under your constant observation after you
first observed it?
What direction did the plane come from?
Where were you when you observed the plane? on the highway, off the
highway, somethin else?
How far away from the plane were you when you first observed it?
Were you in a moving or stopped vehicle? or were you outside your
vehicle.
Where was the plane when you observed it? over the highway,
approaching the highway, something else?
Could you estimate the height of the plane from the ground when you
first observed it? was it at tree level, 100 ft, 1000 ft, something
else?
Was the plane traveling horizonally, vertically, or at an angle when
you first observed it?
Did you observe the impact between the plane and the pentagon?
If you did, what color was the explosion?
curious to know.
--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Phil Aragon <crap2phil@...>
wrote:
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> --- APFN <apfn@...> wrote:
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> [Fwd: Flight 77] YES I SAW A BIG F**KING ASS
> BOEING JET HIT IT! �
>
> -------- Original Message -------- Subject:
> Flight 77 Date: Tue, 16 May
> 2006 15:26:07 -0400 From: Greg
> Schoenborn <schoenborn@...> To:
> <apfn@...>
>
> Just so you know,
> I saw the plane come down ColumbiaPike, over my head,
> full view of the Pentagon in front of me andwatched it
> slam into the Pentagon.
>
> YES I SAW AND ANOTHER FRIEND WHO WASIN TRAFFIC NEXT TO
> THE HELI-PAD SAW A BIG FUCKING ASS BOEING JET HIT IT!
>
> Enough.
>
> =====================
> Who are you. How can we belive you .We have being
> living on lie;s for six years now. We need facks not
> lies. phil
>
>
> RE:9/11...NEW PHOTO'S FLIGHT 77 �JudicialWatch, Tue
> May 16 14:43
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> YESI SAW A BIG F**KING ASS BOEING JET HIT IT! �
> Greg Schoenborn, TueMay 16 16:45
> PlanesDo NOT Vaporize... � Reg, Tue May 16 16:25
> 9/11Pentagon video goes public for first time � S
> Miles Lewis, TueMay 16 16:18
> RE:Flight 77 striking the Pentagon on September
> 11, 2001 � FOREIGN PRESS FOUNDATION, Tue May 16 16:23
>
>
> Newfootage � Anonymous, Tue May 16 15:58
> JudicialWatch page here (mirrored) � brad, Tue
> May 16 15:06
> [911TruthAction]Videos of United Flight 77 � S
> MilesLewis, Tue May 16 16:37
> Flight77 � Richard Lozano, Tue May 16 15:52
>
> RE:9/11...NEW PHOTO'S FLIGHT 77 � Lori
> R.Price, Tue May 16 16:02
> [911TruthAction]9/11 update.... important
> news.... � reggie501@..., Tue May
> 16 16:30
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Message 13
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 3:41pm(PDT)
Subject: : Released Vidoes of Flight 77 Hitting The Pentagon
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark
: Released Vidoes of Flight 77 Hitting The Pentagon
I'm a geezer, so I was playing bingo at the casino, and although I
almost never watch TV, and usually play paper cards, I'd won a few
bucks on the slots so I got the fixed unit bingo machine that has a
little TV screen in the corner, and earphones. Flipping thru the
channels, with nothing I wanted to watch, I happened to come to a
news show that was introducing the new Flight 77 video.
The announcer said, "Look carefully, because you might have some
difficulty seeing it." Well, I've been to airports and seen planes,
and even flown on some, and commercial passenger planes are rather
large and easy to spot, even when travelling fast. There was no plane
in that film. Then the announcer said something like, "Conspiracy
theorists are still complaining that they can't see the plane."
This isn't psy-ops or even public relations. This is psychology 101.
You tell a bunch of people what they're seeing, have people in
authority agree on it, and most will go along to get along. They'll
say a short line is longer than an obviously longer line, and they'll
say there's an airplane when there isn't. The film clip was shown
with other clips of the damage and the first responders to elicit
sympathy and make people feel that if they admitted that they hadn't
seen a plane, they'd be disloyal and unpatriotic.
If the plane had been there, they would have slowed the film down so
that people could see it clearly. The lawn stayed pristine, which it
wouldn't with such a low-flying plane. That plane was just like the
last number I needed for bingo -- it never appeared on the screen.
--Mark
--- In v911t@yahoogroups.com, DitziSis <mk2967@...> wrote:
>
> ya... a plane hit the pentagon... traveling 250 mph, at ground
level, in DC traffic. I believe that...don't you?
>
> Sorry, I've seen a major airliner crash. It almost hit my car.
> I also worked at a casino in Lake Tahoe, Nevada. In 1980 it was
blown up by the the THEN, largest non-military bomb ever exploded.
That incident forever changed my life.
> I spoke with a friend from Harvey's lasst night, about the videos.
She still thinks it was terrorists...well, so do I. But not *those*
terrorists. I don't think the bomb afected everyone the way it did
me. Since that time I have been a little too aware of some things.
>
> pspprogamer <darthvader29@...> wrote: Just about a day ago there
were 2 videos of Flight 77 hitting the pentagon released and
uploaded on YouTube. You decide is there a "plane" in that video? O_o
>
> Video 1
> Video 2
>
> But eh who cares they also released this picture that absolutely
proves that a plane hit the pentagon.
>
> Proof
>
>
>
>
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doing its best, night and day, to make me everybody else - means to
fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight, and never
stop fighting." -e.e. cummings-
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Message 14
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 4:37pm(PDT)
Subject: Fw: Mossad has been training and recruiting Kurds for clandestine o
From: John Churchilly
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:58 PM
Subject: [catapult] Mossad has been training and recruiting Kurds for clandestine operations against Iran
Mossad has been training and recruiting Kurds for clandestine operations against Iran
COVERT FORCES IN IRAN TRAINING KURDISH REBELS
Behind the increasingly shrill rhetoric and saber rattling over Iran's nuclear ambitions America and Israel are engaged in a secret war against Iran that has echoes of the years when the CIA supported the Afghan mujahideen against the Soviet Union.
This time, the United States and Israel are running covert operations with the help of Kurdish militias and rebel Iranian fighters. For some observers, training and arming Islamic fighters smacks of the days of Soviet rule in Afghanistan.
Then, the Soviet army, which was the second most powerful military in the world, was defeated by Islamic militants, including men like Osama bin Laden.
Now the U.S. military, with Israeli commandos lending a hand, is arming and secretly training a different breed of mujahideen, or Islamic fighters-Kurdish militias with links to ethnic Kurdish communities in Iran and Syria, and fighters from the Iranian Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK), which has bases in southern Iraq and has provided the United States with information about the Iranian military and Iran's nuclear sites.
From the perspective of Washington and Tel Aviv, the history of the Kurds makes them ideal recruits for a covert war against Iran and Syria.
During and after Saddam Hussein's rule, the Kurds of northern Iraq longed for an independent Kurdistan. When the so-called "no-fly zone" was in place over Iraq, the Kurds had protection from the U.S. Air Force and U.S. allies. That enabled them to build a large militia force and to develop a burgeoning economy.
But, since the fall of Saddam the Kurds have become disillusioned with the country's slide into chaos and have hinted that they would be happy to see Iraq divided into three parts. In that event, they would establish an autonomous region called Kurdistan and the rich northern oil fields of Kirkuk would ensure their prosperity for decades to come.
Not everyone favors creation of an independent Kurdistan. The Turks, Iranians and Syrians are united in a belief that it would generate instability by encouraging large ethnic Kurdish communities in their countries to demand separation and an alignment with Iraq's Kurds.
In the 20th century ethnic Kurdish demands for autonomy led to more than 30,000 of them being slaughtered by the Turks. In Iran, they were brutally suppressed in three provinces they dominated.
As part of a covert scheme to destabilize and soften up the Iranian regime for possible Special Forces attacks on Iranian nuclear facilities, Washington has turned to disaffected Iranian Kurds for help and to Iranian dissidents in the MEK.
Using fighters trained by the United States in secret bases in southern Iraq, the MEK has carried out a series of attacks in Iran. In recent months, there has been increasing instability inside three Iranian provinces dominated by Kurds, as well as attacks on Iranian troops near the border with Iraq. A Kurdish guerrilla group claimed responsibility for two of the attacks, saying they were in retaliation for Iranian shelling into Kurdish areas of northern Iraq.
New York journalist Seymour Hersh claimed in December 2005 that U.S. combat troops were already in Iran. Following that report, there was an incident near the Iran-Iraq border in January when an Iranian military cargo plane carrying 10 top Iranian Revolutionary Guard commanders mysteriously crashed. Later, there were rumors it was brought down by U.S. Special Forces within Iran.
In April 2006, Iran said it shot down a U.S. surveillance drone flying over the country. Israel has been running its own black operations with the help of Kurds it has trained. The Kurds reportedly have strong ties to Israel because it supports the creation of an independent Kurdistan. From an Israeli perspective, such an entity would provide Israel with an ally in a region in which it is totally isolated and would keep Iraq destabilized.
It was Israel's neo-con friends in Washington who once believed a new Iraq would be Israel's best ally, but the more that vision has turned to nightmare, the more Israel has looked to the creation of a separate Kurdish state in Iraq as the next best thing.
Israel's relationship with the Kurds goes back a long way. During the Iran-Iraq war, the Israelis supplied the Kurds with weapons to attack Saddam Hussein's forces. Then, after the first Gulf War, when the United States and its allies abandoned the Kurds, Israel continued to provide them with weapons and training.
To that end, Israeli special forces and Mossad have been training and recruiting Kurds for clandestine operations and surveillance in Iran and Syria. The advantage of having Kurdish fighters carry out operations is that they can easily blend into ethnic Kurdish communities and sow dissent.
They can also recruit rebel elements and build bases for future operations. Kurdish militiamen and fighters from the MEK are seen by Israel as ideal insurgents.
--
US, Israel operate in Iran, Mossad have been training and recruiting Kurds for clandestine operations ... I have said it many times that Mossad/Israeli forces are training up the Kurds to attack Iran.
Considering that the Kurds are the one race of people that have a blood link to the Israelites of The Bible, this is not surprising at all.
No, as we have discovered a long time ago, the alleged jews of The Zionist State of Israel have no link to the Israelites of The Bible but the Iraqi Kurds do ... see: Jew_zionist_antisemite_seed_deception..pdf (ask for the pdf by clicking on that link)
The Kurdish history in Israel is interesting in itself. The Zionists attracted young Kurds to Israel to build the nation but simple used these people as slaves, many went back to Iraq.
Satan has always used the people of God as tools and weapons, so to find that the Zionists are using the actual blood line to do their dirty work is more or less expected. (Comes under "Knowing your enemy")
So when you see headlines claiming that Iran is shelling Kurdish lines then what you are seeing is the Zionist war against Iran.
Neal
Israeli special forces and Mossad have been training and recruiting Kurds for clandestine operations and surveillance in Iran and Syria
'Iraq War Conceived in Israel' author on Karen Kwiatkowski's radio
broadcast this coming Saturday (May 20th, 2006):
From: "Stephen Sniegoski"
To: "Sniegoski, Stephen"
Subject: Karen Kwiatkowski Radio Program (Correction)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 12:14:33 -0400
Friends,
Karen Kwiatkowski Radio Program (Correction)
A correction here. It was the Office of Special Plans
(not planning) that pushed the neocon propaganda. Sorry for the
brain malfunction. A friend corrected it.
Karen Kwiatkowski Radio Program (Correction)
I will be on Karen Kwiatkowski's radio program "American
Forum" on Saturday, May 20 from 9-11 PM Eastern Time. It is
broadcast on the Internet http://www.rbnlive.com/listen.html (and
archived) As you probably know, Karen Kwiatkowski provided the
early eye-witness accounts of the Office of Special Plans--the
neocon propaganda unit in the Pentagon that helped to push the US
into the war on Iraq. At the time, she was a USAF lieutenant-
colonel working at the Pentagon's Near East/South Asia bureau.
Kwiatkowski has a Ph.D. in World Politics, with a background in
intelligence--she also worked with the National Security Agency
while in the military.
Kwiatkowski left NESA in February, 2003 and retired from the Air
Force the following month, after 25 years of military service Since
that time she has been writing about what she experienced at the
Pentagon as well as commenting on more general topics concerning
politics and foreign policy (regularly for LewRockwell.com). She
is obviously a strong critic of the war agenda in the Middle East.
I will be talking on the neocon-Israel role in the Iraq war and
current developments with Iran. I think it should be an interesting
show.
Steve Sniegoski
Republican Broadcasting
Network
American Forum w/Karen Kwiatkowski
http://www.rbnlive.com/listen.html
Also short-wave radio frequency 5.050
Saturday, May 20
8-10 PM Central Time
9-11 PM Eastern Time
If you live in another time zone, you will have to make your own
calculations. The radio programs are also archived for future
listening. If you listen to the live broadcast, the Call-in Number
is 800-313-9443
Additional material by Dr. Sniegoski is included at the following
URLs (scroll down to such at both)::
"Hawkish Israeli Lobby Wants War with Iran!"
http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/12448/index.php
US Middle East policy Motivated by pro-Israel lobby:
http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=49800
.
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Message 15
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 5:31pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: In answer to Naveed about who Judith Pfeif is
was it because she had a petition with REAL signatures? are the assholes that be trying to make an example? if they considered her a loose cannon, hell there's thousands of "loose cannons" out there, why her? is my question.
one of the most powerful information packed DVD has got to be Masters of Terror exposed by alex jones
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
- Notebook, 1904
http://www.fightthenwo.org/
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To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 5:02:01 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] In answer to Naveed about who Judith Pfeif is
Woman takes Petition to the Local Newspaper asking Them to Print the Truth about the 911 Cover Up
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=11138
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Message 16
From: "APFN" apfn@apfn.org
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 5:45pm(PDT)
Subject: [Fwd: FLIGHT 77: Pentagon propaganda slide show, Showing Nothing!]
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Message 17
From: "Deborah Simon" tapirsaver@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 6:03pm(PDT)
Subject: What a 757 hitting the pentagon would look like
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/170506reallylook.htm
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Message 18
From: "APFN" apfn@apfn.org
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 6:32pm(PDT)
Subject: APFN - CLICK: 9/11 - FLIGHT 77 INFO AND LINKS:
POSTED APFN MESSAGE BOARD:
http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html
CLICK:
9/11 - FLIGHT 77 INFO AND LINKS:
PEOPLE
WHO SAID THEY SAW A PLANE IP:
130.13.73.193, Wed May 17 17:29
FLIGHT
77: Pentagon propaganda slide show, Showing Nothing! FOREIGN PRESS
FOUNDATION, Wed May 17 18:58
RE:
video from the Pentagon attack on 9/11 The
Randi Rhodes Show, Wed May 17 20:10
Shame
on you and shame on your distasteful website DAVID WILLIAMS, Wed
May 17 21:28
FLIGHT
77: Pentagon Video Observations Russell
Pickering, Wed May 17 21:50
"...the
explosion starts before the plane "hits" the buildin Nico Haupt, Wed
May 17 20:43
PENTAGON
121 RE-POST IP: 130.13.73.193, Wed May 17 16:31
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Message 19
From: "APFN" apfn@apfn.org
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 7:26pm(PDT)
Subject: 9/11 & Secret Societies �05/15/ Cost to Coast AM
9/11
& Secret Societies .. W/ Jim Marrs � 05/15/
Cost to Coast AM, Wed May 17 22:31
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LISTS POSTED AT: HTTP://WWW.APFN.NET/POGO.HTM
http://www.jimmarrs.com/
05/16/06 Coast to Coast with George Noory re: Jim Marrs Secret
Societies
Audio:
INTERVIEW: JUDICIAL WATCH� + DAVID VAN KLISH 9/11 IN PLAN SIGHT
INTERVIEW: ALEX JONES, RE: 9/11 FLIGHT 77...
#1 http://www.apfn.net/pogo/A005I060516-coast2coast-jim-marrs1.MP3
(7.53MB)
JIm Marrs.... 9/11 INVESTIGATION
#2 http://www.apfn.net/pogo/A006I060516-coast2coast-jim-marrs2.MP3
(8.86MB)
Jim Marrs.... 9/11... INVESTIGATION... COMING EVENT!
#3 http://www.apfn.net/pogo/A007I060517-coast2coast-jim-marrs3.MP3
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Jim Marrs - SECRET SOCIATIES
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Jim Marrs index:
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COAST TO COAST AM: INDEX
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
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9/11 UNANSWERED QUESTIONS...ETC POSTED HTTP://WWW.APFN.NET/POGO.HTM
http://www.apfn.net/audio/L001I060401141708-ground0A.MP3
Why
investigate 9/11? The simple answer is because the current
administration has failed to do so. The official investigation has been
handled poorly by any standards and the information released to the
American public well after the fact is woefully inadequate. But yet
they have used 9/11 to justify a number of policies that affect us all.
That day has changed our world forever and I want to understand why. I
realize that lives have been dramatically altered by these events and
intend nothing but respect for the passengers and crew of Flight 77,
the Pentagon workers and their families. I would also like to
acknowledge the soldier's and their families who have given beyond
words.
FULL REPORT:
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/
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CLICK:
9/11 - FLIGHT 77 INFO AND LINKS:
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Message 20
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 9:27pm(PDT)
Subject: Fw: This cartoon Boeing overlay in the 2002 Bosankoe animation of t
This cartoon Boeing overlay in the 2002 Bosankoe animation of the security cam pics is a false-memory-planting psy-op. A Boeing has been added and therefore it has the potential to mislead people -- especially since it is being passed around with headings and captions that do not indicate that this is a cartoon overlay simulation (I saw it and used it -- and later guessed that the problem of it being misleading was intentional) -- Dick Eastman
This cartooning of the 2002 Bosankoe animation of the security cam pics plants a false memory -- people will say they saw the new videotape and that there was a plane.
This cartoon is part of the operation involving the officialization on the five frames -- that have been out since 2002. The release of May 16 is part of a psy-op to sell the public the lie of the cartoon overlay -- so that people will think they saw real refutation of 9-11 investigators' evidence with respect tot he Pentagon attack.
The overlay and scaling and the 757 graphic are all so well done that this animation had to have been done before May 16, before people heard that the Pentagon would release the "official" secrity cam frames. I suspect it was made in anticipation of the release.
Note how the actual DoD release is hard to download from many people -- but this overlay cartoon goes anywhere, its just 213 kb.
It would help if APFN and others would put up this possible psy-op cartoon overlay next to the genuine Bosankoe evidence animation -- just so people will understand that the real one is the one without the Boeing 757 in it.
I am firmly convinced that this "official" release of the old five frames is part of an effort to flood the world with thousands of analyses and opinions in order to bury the case that has been carefully made over the last four and a half years.
Also note -- people are seeing the white smoke trail of the missile as the actual "plane", when the smoke is actually to the right of the plane which is hidden (except for the tail fin), behind the parking pass machine.
Please keep this in mind and pass it on.
Dick Eastman
(remember me?)
This (below) is a psy-op -- it is not what the Pentagon released on May 16th.
----- Original Message -----
From: APFN
To: APFN Yahoogroups
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:53 AM
Subject: [Fwd: [911TruthAction] New Pentagon video shows no Boeing airliner]
a.. Just so you knwo - neverknwo, Tue May 16 19:23
Tue May 16, 2006 19:23
71.127.71.118
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This is a psy-op -- the plane is a graphic addition, a cartoon. Better tell others so they will not be fooled.
To see the uncartooned real thing click here and here.
Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
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Message 21
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 10:19pm(PDT)
Subject: Researcher Says 'Watchdogs' Exaggerate US Hate Group Threat
> Researcher Says 'Watchdogs'
> Exaggerate Hate Group Threat
>
> By Robert Stacy McCain
> THE WASHINGTON TIMES
> May 9, 2000
>
> They collect millions of dollars for their crusades against hate
> groups,
> but do so-called "watchdog" organizations exaggerate the dangers posed
> by neo-Nazis and other racist movements?
>
> Laird Wilcox thinks so. A Kansas author and editor who has spent
> decades
> researching what he calls "fringe" groups, Mr. Wilcox says the total
> numbers of active, organized extremists on the right is not much more
> than 10,000.
>
> "Because of their nature, it's very difficult to come up with firm
> numbers" for such groups, Mr. Wilcox says, but estimates "the militias
> are probably 5,000 or 6,000 people. The Ku Klux Klan are down to about
> 3,000 people. And the combined membership of all neo-Nazi groups are
> probably just 1,500 to 2,000."
>
> In a nation of more than 270 million people, the small size of such
> fringe groups represents a tiny danger, yet they are the target of what
> Mr. Wilcox calls an "industry" of watchdog groups. "There is an
> anti-racist industry entrenched in the United States that has attracted
> bullying, moralizing fanatics, whose identity and livelihood depend
> upon
> growth and expansion of their particular kind of victimization,"
>
> Mr. Wilcox wrote in his 1999 book "The Watchdogs." Naming such
> organizations as the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), based in
> Montgomery, Ala., Mr. Wilcox claims "the anti-racist movement has
> become
> a massive extortion racket."
>
> The SPLC, founded in 1971, has amassed an endowment of $113 million
> through the efforts of co-founder Morris Dees, who served as finance
> director for Democratic Sen. George McGovern's 1972 presidential
> campaign. According to the Atlanta Constitution, he "then used the
> campaign's donor list of 700,000 liberals for the law center."
>
> The SPLC has consistently exaggerated the size and numbers of extremist
> groups, says Mr. Wilcox, who for more than 20 years has edited the
> "Guide to the American Right" (now in its 24th edition) and the "Guide
> to the American Left" (in its 21st edition), each of which lists
> hundreds of organizations.
>
> In 1992, for instance, SPLC's Klanwatch division claimed there were
> "346
> white-supremacy groups operating" in the United States. But, says Mr..
> Wilcox, "in terms of viable groups . . . the actual figure is about 50."
>
> Even when it recently announced that the number of hate groups had
> declined, the SPLC claimed "the reported decline in numbers of groups
> may be deceiving" in part because of a trend of consolidation in which
> "smaller groups disbanded or joined larger organizations."
>
> SPLC spokesman Mark Potok said Mr. Wilcox has "had an ax to grind for a
> great many years. He spends his time attacking other people who do
> anti-racist work, calling them everything from Communists to
> opportunistic slime."
>
> Mr. Wilcox's criticism has been "used by right-wing extremists very
> frequently as a vehicle to attack us," Mr. Potok said. But Mr.
> Wilcox is
> not the only critic of the SPLC. Former employees of the organization
> have called the SPLC "a joke" and "evil," and have called Mr. Dees
> "amoral." Former black employees have claimed they were discriminated
> against by the SPLC, according to press accounts.
>
> The SPLC has also been criticized by left-wing writer Alexander
> Cockburn, who said Mr. Dees raised millions "by frightening elderly
> liberals that the heirs of Adolf Hitler are about to march down Main
> Street."
>
> In "The Watchdogs," Mr. Wilcox chronicles several recent scandals
> involving anti-racist groups, including:
>
> -- The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which monitors anti-Semitism, was
> scandalized in 1993 when the FBI accused one of its paid investigators,
> Roy Bullock, of using confidential information from San Francisco
> police
> inspector Tom Gerard to compile computerized files on political groups.
>
> ADL espionage targets included such liberal groups as the National
> Association for the Advancement of Colored People, as well as labor
> unions and environmental groups. More recently, the ADL was the target
> of a lawsuit by a Colorado couple who accused the group of defaming
> them
> after an ADL official accused them of "anti-Semitic harassment." On
> April 28, a federal jury in Denver awarded the couple $10.5 million in
> the suit.
>
> -- The Center for Democratic Renewal (CDR), an Atlanta-based group
> begun
> in 1979 as the National Anti-Klan Network, sparked a national media
> uproar in 1996 by claiming "a well-organized white-supremacist
> movement"
> was responsible for an "epidemic" of arson attacks against black
> churches in the South.
>
> Within months, journalists and law enforcement officials had concluded
> that church-burnings had actually declined, that racism was a motive in
> less than half of the arsons, and that white churches were more often
> targeted by arsonists.
>
> -- Political Research Associates (PRA) is based in Cambridge, Mass. In
> 1992, the Rev. Francis S. Stryokowski was forced to resign after PRA
> analyst Chip Berlet "conclusively identified" the 76-year-old Catholic
> priest as having attended a 1988 meeting of the "Anti-Communist
> Confederation of Polish Freedom Fighters."
>
> A former Klan leader, Bob Miles, gave an anti-Semitic speech at the
> meeting in Salem, Mass., though Mr. Stryokowski later claimed he "did
> not know ahead of time" about the nature of the meeting.
>
> Mr. Berlet, who noted that he has himself been critical of some
> anti-racist groups in the past, accused Mr. Wilcox of mischaracterizing
> PRA's activities.
>
> "Laird Wilcox is not an accurate or ethical reporter," he said. "He
> simply can't tolerate people who are his competition in this field."
>
> But Mr. Wilcox says what most watchdog groups have in common is a
> tendency to use what he calls "links and ties" to imply connections
> between individuals and groups.
>
> "It's kind of like three Catholics hold up a bank in San Francisco, and
> you blame the Pope," he said, citing the Oklahoma City bombing as an
> instance where the "links and ties" method was used to blame militia
> groups for the bombing.
>
> "Militias had nothing to do with Oklahoma City, absolutely nothing," he
> said, citing the massive FBI investigation that turned up
> "absolutely no
> tangible link between [convicted bomber Timothy] McVeigh and any
> militia
> group."
>
> The "links and ties" of anti-racist groups reveal their own political
> agendas, Mr. Wilcox says. In "The Watchdogs," he details how the Center
> for Democratic Renewal was an offshoot of the Communist Workers
> Party, a
> Maoist splinter of the 1960s "New Left" movement.
>
> It is not surprising that these groups use accusations of extremism,
> according to David Horowitz of the Center for the Study for Popular
> Culture.
>
> "The extreme left . . . needs the extreme right to justify its own
> agendas," says Mr. Horowitz, a former leftist who is now a popular
> conservative author. "That's the way it worked in the '60s." Left-wing
> groups "exaggerate these dangers" from white supremacists, Mr. Horowitz
> said. "Who has more influence, David Duke or Louis Farrakhan?" he said,
> comparing the Louisiana ex-Klansman to the Nation of Islam leader, both
> of whom have frequently been accused of anti-Semitism
>
> Watchdog groups may actually help the hate groups they claim to oppose,
> says free-lance writer Jim Redden, by generating media coverage of
> extremists.
>
> "My belief is that there aren't that many hard-core racist activists in
> this country," said Mr. Redden, who has covered the activities of
> extremists in the Pacific Northwest. "And . . . even with their
> Internet
> sites, they're very limited in their ability to get their ideas before
> the public, so the mass media coverage of their movement does more to
> publicize their beliefs than what they do themselves."
>
> http://home.att.net/~r.s.mccain/wilcox.html
>
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Message 22
From: "Total Information" totalinfo@gmail.com
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 10:55pm(PDT)
Subject: CNN plan to attack Sheen, Pentagon skeptics
< http://www.total911.info/2006/05/cnn-plan-to-attack-sheen-pentagon.html >
It should first be noted that the CNN Headline News program that brought
Sheen and 9/11 truth to a national cable audience for almost a week, Showbiz
Tonight, no longer airs live, and its primetime access slot has been pulled
in favor of neocon ClearChannel lying warmonger Glenn Beck.
And here's the latest on CNN from *PrisonPlanet.com* May 18
2006<http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/180506attacksheen.htm>:
"We have received word from numerous different sources that CNN is trying to
bait 9/11 truth activists to appear as guests on its programs and attack
Charlie Sheen.
WTC survivor and truth activist William Rodriguez was contacted by the
Anderson Cooper show and asked if he would go on record as saying the new
Pentagon footage dispelled all 9/11 questions. They also requested that he
attack Charlie Sheen's public stance on 9/11.
After Rodriguez refused to take the bait and said he supports Sheen 100% CNN
cancelled his appearance even as the car to pick him up was en route.
Lawyer Philip Berg and philanthropist Jimmy Walters were also approached by
CNN and promised TV time if they agreed to debunk Charlie Sheen. Both
refused.
[...]
-----
This is more evidence the release of the Boeingless Pentagon footage has the
corporate mass media scrambling to justify the official BS. CNN is actually
soliciting for influential 9/11-truth figures to swear allegiance to the
Pentagon 757 Fairy Tale and denounce heretics like Charlie Sheen. It is
evident the Pentagon is a real weak point for the official story.
--
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www.total411.info
www.total911.info
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Message 23
From: "ranger116@webtv.net" ranger116@webtv.net
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 11:28pm(PDT)
Subject: Where is the Plane, Flight 77 ? + Ed Schultz is a Republican shill
Where is the Plane, Flight 77 ? + Ed Schultz is a Republican shill
Where is the Plane, Flight 77?
(This is good lot's of information)
(Also look close at the first "original" video moving stills released
and see the curly white smoke trail left by the missile that really hit
the Pentagon)
Address:http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm
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How Flight 77 Hitting The Pentagon Would Really Look?
Address:http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/170506reallylook.htm
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Charlie Sheen's Pentagon Questions Remain Unanswered
Address:http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/170506pentagonquestions.htm
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FBI Withholding 84 More Tapes of Pentagon on 9/11
Address:http://infowars.net/articles/may2006/170506Pentagon_videos.htm
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HS Teacher Suspended For Saying 911 Inside Job
Address:http://www.rense.com/general71/inside.htm
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PetitionUSA :: To Stop illegal immigration
Address:http://www.petitionusa.com/petition_immigration
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Warning - This guy who pretends to be Liberal, Is a Republican in sheeps
clothing !
The Ed Schultz Show
Address:http://www.wegoted.com/
A friend of mine sent the email below to him on Tuesday trying to show
him what it is like to be the working poor and trying to keep a roof
over your head with the already low paying jobs available and Not have
to worry about illegal immigrants taking them away.
He took it out of context and trashed her on the air and said she was
lucky he didn't give out her name and email address
(Which wouldn't have bothered her, She was correct)
You may have heard him do it this last Tuesday May 16.
Her email
We Are Tired of Hearing Someone Who Never Had To Worry About Keeping a
Roof over their heads as referenced by talk of 2,000 hours flight time
as a private pilot (doesn't come cheap) 2 SUVS, 2 Boats, a house on the
lake etc etc tell us Americans who live in the most inexpensive
efficiency apt available and can't afford a car that we should be
liberal about illegal aliens in the Millions and millions more coming in
to the USA.
Even though we are liberal on almost all other things
��������If you want to give illegal aliens amnesty and
not deport them ? Then are you in favor of a fed govt bill that will
guarantee Americans
already living at the lowest possible income level that they can not be
thrown out of their apartments ?
��Also since it is impossible to check the criminal records of
immigrants from many countries, Then are we going to give amnesty to
Americans with criminal records who have proven themselves reformed so
they can get responsible jobs ?
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Message 24
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Wed May 17, 2006 11:56pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Signs of tyranny looming
Uhh, are you describing Kennedy�s or Bush�s Grandfathers?
-----Original Message-----
From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John Perna
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:31 AM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Signs of tyranny looming
A nation that does not defend its borders will not continue to be a nation.
Terrorists, smugglers, murders, rapists, are among those illegals.
Our future if we do not control immigration
Did we not notice what happened to the Indians because they did not control
immigration?
If you woke up tonight with a gun at your head,
you would agree that burglary should be illegal.
So is illegal immigration.
Those who were born here of parents who were citizens,
are our citizens.
The fact that our ancestors were immigrants is irrelevant when discussing
the invasion that is now taking place.
THE QUESTION IS Do WE keep criminals out of our own home?
Did you see the photos of the demonstrators?
The signs said things like this:
"We did not cross the border.
The border crossed us"
"This is our land. Gringos should leave"
"All Europeans who came here since 1492 were illegal"
They flew Mexican flags and did the national anthem in Spanish.
Did your ancestors try to change our language?
Do a google search on "Atzlan". In case you do not want to bother,
I will tell you that "Atzlan" is the name of the new country,
that they plan to form after they take the south west away from the
"gringos".
When will the bloodshed stop in Israel?
What is it like in South Africa now?
Did we learn nothing from studying Roman history?
Do we want the same thing here?
If the number of illegal immigrants,
that we have now,
are having boycotts, demonstrations, demanding "rights", and claiming to own
this country,
THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE DO NOT STOP MORE FROM COMING IN??????
If they have it so bad here, why are they coming in droves?
If they have it so bad here, why don't they go back?
What we are seeing now is IMPORTED CLASS STRUGGLE.
To understand what happens to a nation that becomes engulfed in CLASS
STRUGGLE
read the Communist Manifesto.
Their demonstrations and boycotts were on May First.
May First is a communist holiday.
The FTAA would open our borders totally
Visit:
http://www.stoptheftaa.org/
and
http://www.stoptheftaa.org/default.html
Unfortunately, many Congressmen have accepted this hype that the so-called
Free Trade Agreements (FTAs) are just designed to open up markets for
American exports.
----------------------
One Country with a Sensible Immigration Policy
[Unlike the United States, which doesn't know its benighted butt from a hole
in a tortilla, there is a country which does have a sane and sensible
immigration policy. Here are some of its rules: PERHAPS WE SHOULD ADOPT THE
SAME RULES]
1. If you migrate to this county, you must speak the national language.
2. You have to be a professional or an investor. No unskilled workers
allowed.
3. There will be no special bilingual programs in schools, no special
ballots for elections.
All government business must be conducted in the common national language.
4. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote, no matter how long they live
here.
5. Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.
6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food
stamps,
no health care, or other government assistance programs.
7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to
40,000 times
the daily minimum wage.
8. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT
options will be
restricted. You cannot own waterfront property. That is reserved for
citizens born
in this country.
9. Foreigners may not protest: no demonstrations, no waving a foreign flag,
no political
organizing, no badmouthing of its national policies. If you do, you will be
sent back home.
10. If you come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down and sent
straight to jail.
Sound harsh? Insensitive? Inhumane?
The above laws governing immigration happen to be those of����
... our good neigbor to the south � MEXICO!
mann david <dmann51@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yeh John and you are one of the symptoms and causes of
looming tyrany - like "put "illegals" on five years of
hard labor building a wall" - etc.- - and the rest of
your opinions.
--- John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Signs of tyranny looming
>
> If you don't have 15 minutes to look this over,
> someday when you
> have the time and not the content, you'll wish you
> had.
>
> "The greatest menace to freedom is an inert people."
>
> Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis
>
> If you don't want to read all the evidence, scroll
> all the way down
> and follow the 2 links for this imperative
> information.
>
> PRE-SCRIPT When the time comes it will be imperative
> that you stand
> up for what you believe in. What are you going to
> do? I understand
> it is easy to be lazy about these things in the
> present. When
> circumstances become apparent you must not be lazy.
> Our brethren
> and posterity are going ask more from our young
> generation than have
> been demanded from any previous American
> generations. When the time
> comes,know your Rights, be prepared to Act, and
> expect to do your
> part.
>
>
> On July 5, 1987 the front page of the Miami Herald
> Newspaper carried
> a now famous article describing White House plans
> to:
>
> A.) DECLARE AN UNDEFINED "NATIONAL EMERGENCY,"
> B.) RE-OPEN CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR PREVENTIVE
> DETENTION OF LEGAL
> DISSIDENTS CERTAIN ETHNIC GROUPS, AND
> C.)LEGALLY SUSPEND OUR UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION
>
> On August 14, 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft
> was called
> a "menace to Liberty" by Jonathan Turley, in the Los
> Angeles Times,
> for announcing his desire for camps for U.S.
> citizens he
> deems "enemy combatants."
>
> Under the Justice Department's new definition of
> "enemy combatant"�
> which won the enthusiastic approval of the president
> and Defense
> Secretary Donald Rumsfeld�anyone defined as an
> "enemy combatant,"
> very much including American citizens, can be held
> indefinitely by
> the government, without charges, a hearing, or a
> lawyer. In short,
> incommunicado.
>
> On August 8, The Wall Street Journal reported that
> "the Goose Creek,
> South Carolina, facility now has a special wing that
> could be used
> to jail U.S. citizens if the government were to deem
> them enemy
> combatants," a senior administration official said.
>
> The Rex-84 Alpha Explan (Readiness Exercise 1984,
> Exercise Plan)
> showed that FEMA leads 34 other federal agencies,
> including CIA,
> FBI, and U.S. Treasury, in a massive civil readiness
> exercise.
> In 1983, at the annual meeting of the Academy of
> Criminal Justice
> Sciences, FEMA's General Frank S. Salcedo
> recommended expanding
> FEMA's power even further. As he saw it at least
> 100,000 U.S.
> citizens, from survivalists to tax protesters, were
> serious threats
> to civil security.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Garden_Plot
>
> Operation: Urban Warrior. US Marines Training with
> Foreign Troops in
> Mock Martial Law Practices Including Disarming
> American Citizens
> Portrayed by Actors and Placing Them in
> Concentration Camps.During
> the urban combat phase of Operation Urban Warrior,
> U.S. Marines take
> cover and move out in Oakland, Calif., March 16.
>
> It was announced recently that Halliburton
> subsidiary Kellogg, Brown
> and Root had been awarded a $385 million dollar
> contract by Homeland
> Security to construct detention and processing
> facilities in the
> event of a national emergency.
>
> In 2002, FEMA sought bids from major real estate and
> engineering
> firms to construct giant internment facilities in
> the case of a
> chemical, biological or nuclear attack or a natural
> disaster.
>
> Okanogan County Commissioner Dave Schulz went public
> three years ago
> with his contention that his county was home of a
> modern day
> internment camp.
>
> When Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Wash.) read a story
> widely circulated in
> the U.S. press in 2003 entitled "Foundations Are in
> Place for
> Martial Law in the United States," he became so
> alarmed that he gave
> a speech on the floor of the U.S. House of
> Representatives on the
> topic.
>
> In a revealing admission the Director of Resource
> Management for the
> U.S. Army confirmed the validity of a memorandum
> relating to the
> establishment of a civilian inmate labor program
> under development
> by the Department of the Army.
>
> The 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, passed in response to
> abuses by
> federal troops in the South after the Civil War,
> prohibits the use
> of the military "to execute the laws" of the U.S.
> That's been widely
> interpreted as a ban on searching, arresting or
> spying on U.S.
> civilians by federal troops.
>
> Northcom's commander, Gen. Ralph "Ed" Eberhart, is
> the first general
> since the Civil War with operational authority
> exclusively over
> military forces within the U.S.
>
>
> Northcom is doing more than mere coordinating.
> "Under the banner
> of 'homeland security', the military and
> intelligence communities
> are implementing far-reaching changes that blur the
> lines between
> terrorism and other kinds of crises and will break
> down long-
> established barriers to military action and
> surveillance within the
> US."
>
> Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, testifying
> in October
> before the Senate Armed Services Committee, agreed
> that federal
> troops have a major role in domestic policing to
> prevent terrorism.--
> ---please go here-
>
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00001385--
> --000-.html
>
> State Emergency Health Powers Act
> WASHINGTON -- In the event of a bio-terrorist attack
> using a deadly
> and contagious disease such as smallpox, public
> health officials
> want to be able to close roads and airports and, if
> necessary,
> quarantine entire infected cities.
> To make that possible, 50 governors are to receive
> copies of a
> proposed law, drafted at the behest of the Centers
> for Disease
> Control and Prevention in Atlanta, which could give
> states immense
> power to control their populations.
>
> H.R.3162
> AUTHORITY FOR DELAYING NOTICE OF THE EXECUTION OF A
> WARRANT.
> SEC. 213.
>
>
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Message 25
From: "Kitty" kitty285@charter.net
Date: Thu May 18, 2006 6:10am(PDT)
Subject: Re: 9/11...NEW PHOTO'S FLIGHT 77
APFN,this old one with bad eyes would like to know what is that gray clump
to the left is,a tree ?
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From: "APFN" <apfn@apfn.org>
To: "9/11 Truth Action Group" <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Judicial Watch" <info@judicialwatch.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] RE: 9/11...NEW PHOTO'S FLIGHT 77
> Judicial Watch
> RE: 9/11...NEW PHOTO'S FLIGHT 77
>
>
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