Wednesday, April 26, 2006

[political-research] Paying for the Crimes of Europeans and Germans

You know, I am still seeing no effort to answer a very simple and very fundamental question that was asked by the president of Iran: why should Arabs, Palestinians, Muslims and Christians in the Middle East pay for crimes against humanity and the Jews committed by Germans and Europeans?
 
Why should they indeed?  Why would anyone in his or her right mind ever believe that they would passively lie back and accept such an enormous injustice?  I find it difficult to lecture and sermonize Palestinians and Mideasterners on this matter, because I know for damned certain that Americans would never accept the violent creation of a Zionist state anywhere on American soil.
 
Would Germans accept the moving of the present state of Israel to Germany now?  Nope, they would violently resist such a policy until their dying breath.
 
The enormously significant conclusion to be drawn from this state of affairs is that there will never be a happy and peaceful conclusion to the Zionist experiment -- only a global catastrophe.  The seeds of the catastrophe should have been apparent from the instant that Zionism was conceived.  I think it is beginning to dawn in the minds of some leading Jewish thinkers that Zionism may prove to be the most destructive and self-destructive false messianic movement in Jewish history -- worse than the Bar Kokhba Revolt against Rome.
 
It should be kind of a clue to people who are even moderately sentient that it is a bad sign when your most enthusiastic supporters are eagerly praying for Armageddon to occur as soon as possible.
 
George W. Bush is now threatening to nuke Iran on the grounds that doing so is necessary to protect Israel.  Israel and the Israel lobby are strongly pushing Bush to attack Iran.  Many of the best minds in the United States believe that this would be a disastrous policy, one that could conceivably lead to the destruction of the United States as a prosperous world power.  Do you realize how astonishing it is for Israel and Zionism to be at the dead center of such an ugly controversy in American politics?  Do you see some of the possible scenarios that are on the near horizon?

LeaNder <l.l.hahn@web.de> wrote:
Sean,

you know this is a purely rhetorical question. I found Shlomo Ben-Ami
Norman Finkelstein debate very interesting.

http://www.democracynow.org/finkelstein-benami.shtml

This is about Israel and about Jerusalem as you well know, not about
any other place.

Do you honestly believe Ahmadinejad is bothered about the plight of
the Palestinians? Or, do you think that ultimately does not matter?

-b

>
> [MEMRI fails to respond to any of the issues and questions it raises
in its quotes.  Why?  Apparently it makes the shaky assumption that
the quotes are so egregiously outrageous that they don't merit a reply.]
>   
>   [The core question seems to be this: why should residents of the
Mideast, particularly Palestinians, be forced to pay for crimes that
were committed by Europeans, especially Germans?  Shouldn't Europe or
Germany have been forced to accept the creation of a Zionist on their
territory state to pay for their sins?]
>   
>   [I have seen this question asked of Israeli supporters many times,
always with the same result -- they avoid the question entirely and
try to make it go away.  But it is an extremely important question.
Would Europe accept the creation of a Jewish state on its soil?  If
not, why does any reasonable person with basic common sense expect
Arabs and Muslims in the Mideast to do so?  The failure to address
this question explains why the Zionist experiment in the Middle East,
hatched by messianic dreamers like Moses Hess and Theodor Herzl, is
almost certainly going to end as a global catastrophic failure,  It
was founded on false and unrealistic premises.]
>   
>   [If Europeans violently resisted the creation of a Zionist state
on their territory, would they be considered evil terrorists?  Would
Americans?  Russians?  Mexicans?  The Chinese?]
>  
>
> MEMRI <memri@...> wrote:
>   WWW.MEMRITV.ORG , VIEWED IN ALL 192 COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD.
>
> Special Dispatch - Iran/Antisemitism Documentation Project
> April 26, 2006
> No. 1148
>
> Iranian President Ahmadinejad Elaborates on His Plan for the Jews to
Leave Israel and Return to Germany and Austria
>
> To view this Special Dispatch in HTML, visit:
http://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=SD114806 .
>
> The following are excerpts from a speech by Iranian President Dr.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that aired on Iranian News Channel (IRINN) on
April 24, 2006.
>
> TO VIEW THIS CLIP, VISIT:
http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1116 .
>
> Iranian President Ahmadinejad: "The greatest problem from which
humanity suffers today, the main problem facing the countries of the
Middle East, is the continuation of the processes that took place
during World War II."
>
> [...]
>
> "Let's assume certain things did happen [in World War II]. Why
should the people of the Middle East, for over 60 years, be paying for
it under this pretext?"
>
> [...]
>
> "The same people who claim to have saved humanity, and to have
prevented further massacre in World War II, and who avenged the
victims of that war - why have they killed over 100,000 innocent
people in 60 years?"
>
> [...]
>
> "Why do they grieve over some of the victims only? Let's assume that
the [Holocaust] was true - who should be punished for this? This is a
serious question facing contemporary humanity."
>
> [...]
>
> "Although they claim that their hearts bleed for the Jews, during
World War II and following it they caused the widespread phenomenon of
anti-Judaism in two or three European countries. If you support the
Jews - how do you explain this anti-Judaism? Why did you turn Europe
in its entirety into a place unsafe for the Jews? Could there possibly
be any other reason than creating unsafe conditions for the Jews, so
that they would flee and find shelter in Palestine?
>
> "Why do you think they are safe in Palestine? These people, who left
their homelands as a result of your pressure and anti-Judaism, went to
a country that did not belong to them. Different minorities from
different countries came to live side by side, just like pieces of
paper joined together with a paper clip. They live in an atmosphere of
insecurity on a daily basis. I've said this once, and I'll say it
again: Open the gates of this big prison. Allow these people to decide
freely, and you will see that they will return to their homelands. Of
course, you must first let go of your anti-Judaism. You must let go of
it. We believe that just like the rest of mankind, the Jews have the
right to live a life of prosperity, freedom, and security. Set them
free, and let them return to their homelands."
>
> [...]
>
> "Now allow me to say a few words to the people of Germany and
Austria. Look at the atmosphere in the world today. See how those who
purport to promote human rights and democracy actually want to run the
world. Sixty years ago a war took place, and 60 million people were
killed by both sides. If we had any power in those days, we would have
prevented this carnage. To the best of our ability we would not have
allowed such a massacre. Sixty years have passed since that war, and
the people of Palestine are still paying the price for a war in which
they did not participate. The people of today's Germany are paying
reparation for a war in which they themselves did not participate.
>
> "My question is the following: Let's assume that 60 years ago a
certain regime in Germany started a certain war, and certain crimes
were committed. Three generations later - what is the fault of the
current German generation that it must be so humiliated? Why can't it
play an independent role in international relations? They are
constantly being reminded that their parents were criminals. Monuments
are built there. All countries build monuments for things that they
are proud of, and when tourists come, they show them these monuments.
Over there, they build monuments, and every German who passes by a
park is constantly reminded: 'Look, you are the son of criminals, and
you must be humiliated.'"
>
> [...]
>
> "In culture, science, and international politics, Germany should
have a prominent standing. But 60 years later, they are still held
prisoner by a handful of people, who themselves had planned all the
events of that era. Now they say that no one is allowed to talk about
or research this event. Why not research it?"
>
> [...]
>
> "Why should a small handful of people ignite the entire world,
merely in order to fill their pockets? Why? We are against this method
of running the world, and we say this clearly. I am declaring clearly
that I am against the policies of the U.S. and England in running the
world. And by the way, I support peace and quiet, and I am a very
peace-loving man.
>
> "How come whenever someone criticizes you or exposes your mistakes,
you attack him through the media that you finance, and portray him as
a criminal? Wrong! Ahmadinejad is a schoolteacher and a very
peace-loving man. To this day, I have never harmed an ant in my life.
Allah willing, I will never harm any living or inanimate object."
>
>
> *********************
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