Discussion about 09/11/2001: [911TruthAction] Digest Number 1242

Sunday, April 23, 2006

[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1242

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: I've just banned two posters & this should be end of despicable
From: "angela mvbride" fourddream@yahoo.com
2. Reflections in the magic mirror
From: "Peter Vervoorn" peter04@problemsolving.com.au
3. Re: Reflections in the magic mirror
From: "Cait" ansith@gmail.com
4. Re: Reflections in the magic mirror
From: "angela mvbride" fourddream@yahoo.com
5. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "kitty285" kitty285@charter.net
6. 9/11 Update - 4/22
From: "reggie501" reggie501@optonline.net
7. Re: Reflections in the magic mirror
From: "angiesept11" angiesept11@yahoo.com
8. Re: I've just banned two posters & this should be end of despicable
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
9. Re: I've just banned two posters & this should be end of despicable
From: "janet phelan" jcphelan10@yahoo.com
10. 9/11 Truth in South America
From: "angiesept11" angiesept11@yahoo.com
11. Re: Reflections in the magic mirror
From: "Cait" ansith@gmail.com
12. Re: Reflections in the magic mirror
From: "angela mvbride" fourddream@yahoo.com
13. 9/11
From: "stoelting1981" fiat@sofnet.com
14. Re: 9/11 Truth in South America
From: "angiesept11" angiesept11@yahoo.com
15. A Day in the LIfe: 4/22/6
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." prez@usa-exile.org
16. Jolly, Please Stop Angie's Censorship of the List -was: Reflections.
From: "Mark S Bilk" mark@cosmicpenguin.com
17. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "kitty285" kitty285@charter.net
18. Taking Aim Bulletin, April 22, 2006 - Ralph speaks in NYC today and
From: "Mark S Bilk" mark@cosmicpenguin.com
19. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "kitty285" kitty285@charter.net
20. Re: Congoleezza Leaked ! -- Now we are going to See Fried Brown Rice
From: "kitty285" kitty285@charter.net
21. A Call for Unity in the 9/11 Truth Community
From: "Joe Stokes" joestokes@sbcglobal.net
22. 12 Years for Rice+Germans 9/11 inside job+Iraq bases+WhitesBack In !
From: "ranger116@webtv.net" ranger116@webtv.net
23. Re: Reflections in the magic mirror
From: "kitty285" kitty285@charter.net
24. Welcome to 911 TruthAction : Request to join 911TruthAction approve
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
25. Dave Walsh: The very rich in America: "The kind of money you cannot
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net

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Message 1
From: "angela mvbride" fourddream@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:56am(PDT)
Subject: Re: I've just banned two posters & this should be end of despicable

Yea, and the zionists are backed by the neo cons using saudie funds from the bin ladin family.
SO WHAT??????????
The friggin antichrist calls himself christian. SO WHAT.
Get over it all of you and start working together for the human family against this reptilian mindset.
Yes we should be outraged but outraged at the right thing and that is the arrogant manipulations of these extortionists who have made themselves our leaders, working in the same uniek way as the AIDS virus does beginning by infiltrating and taking over the immune (defence) systems.
Change your focus is best but hey, I agree in so far that people need to know ALL these things, and I agree that the palastinian cause is a just cause and it is close to my heart, but saying zionists were behind 911 (I'm sure some were) is too simplistic for this. This rabbit hole is way deeper. These monsters are way wierder than that. Zionism is as christianity, judeaism and islam used by them as tools, accentuate the differences stir a little shit cause a lot of poverty and suffering and you got them where you want, the sheeple..
Did you know that mossad worked on German passports? So who's who? Now you see it now you don't, they love this element of their scam. Their symbol on the dollar bill is an easy example of their "in your face from outer space" mentality.
We've come to a point in history where we have to rethink everything we know of our history and start thinking outside of the box.
I guess I still agree with Angie on this one.
A.

angiesept11 <angiesept11@yahoo.com> wrote:
Back to 911, please.

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@...>
wrote:
>
> I read this zionist propaganda. Funny how there is absolutely NO
MENTION of the FACT that it is DOCUMENTED that hamas was and still IS
a creation/asset of the Mossad. Hmm. neither did it mention the
balfour declaration and how it came about.
>
> kenny318east3 <kenny318east3@...> wrote: --- In
911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, mann david <dmann51@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > For what it's worth, you are correct and for the right
> > reason. This is the LAST PLACE we need to be reading
> > "CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS" (i.e., Nazi) PROPAGANDA !!
>
> - It is commonly assumed that Muslims are "terrorists" and that it's
necessary
> to kill them in preemptive self-defense.
>
> - In fact there are many people who continue to endorse the idea of
sending
> US military personnel overseas to subdue the Muslims, in the hope of
reining
> them in and to neutralize the threat which they allegedly pose to us.
>
> - It's only on rare occasions that people demonstrate any
inhibitions or
> reservations about discussing the Muslims and their beliefs ...
>
> But then we dare not level any criticism at the Jews.
>
> I would like to know where this double-standard is coming from and
how it got
> started.
>
> Please check out the radical "shit list" that targets dissident
Jewish people for
> boycott. http://masada2000.org/shit-list.html
>
> Ken.
>
> > --- Naveed <flanker12k@> wrote:
> >
> > > I trust your judgment angie, no disagreements from
> > > me. I think i lost track of the number of times I
> > > kept telling eastman to make the distinction between
> > > jews and zionists.....only once did i retract
> > > because he was trying to make a point.
> > >
> > > Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@> wrote: No
> > > argument from me. he was asked nicely more than
> > > just a couple of times to differentiate between
> > > judaism and zionism and he failed to do so.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > > www.fightthenwo.org have you seen my site yet?
> > > Please check it out and give me any feedback as I
> > > respect your opinion.
> > >
> > > angiesept11 <angiesept11@> wrote:
> > > I've just banned two posters, Dick Eastman,
> > > for his "The Jews did 9-11" post and the
> > > poster calling himself "joohistory" who posted
> > > something on Adolf Hitler. I unfortunately rarely
> > > get a chance to monitor or keep current with this
> > > newsgroup for which I have some moderator
> > > privileges,
> > > and to see this offensive stuff on a rare occasion
> > > when
> > > I check in is worse that disturbing. Associating
> > > any religion with the culprits of 9/11 is worse
> > > than stupid, it's evil and I'm disgusted to see it
> > > on this list. When I see it, I'll ban it - and
> > > this
> > > shouldn't be any more cause for discussion either.
> > > The topic is 9/11 PERIOD. It shouldn't be necessary
> > > to point out that anyone involved in planning
> > > the crime has NO true spirituality or religion. I
> > > hope
> > > this list can be reborn into something where this
> > > stuff
> > > isn't tolerated. If other moderators disagree, just
> > > let
> > > me know & I'll be on my merry way because I cannot
> > > associate
> > > with this filth, nor do I want to see any discussion
> > > of it. 9/11 should never be used to further
> > > anyone's
> > > anti-semitic agenda, nor should this list which is
> > > intended
> > > to concern 911 truth activism.
> > >
> > > Angie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Message 2
From: "Peter Vervoorn" peter04@problemsolving.com.au
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:28am(PDT)
Subject: Reflections in the magic mirror

I am not convinced it was a good idea to ban Dick Eastman for failing to
distinguish clearly between Judaism and Zionism. The root of the arrogance
of Zionism - like all elitist belief, be it Islamic, Jewish, Christian,
Hindu, fascist German, or patriotic American - is the concept that one group
of people alone is superior; by virtue of their culture or belief; and
chosen by God or destiny to rule the world. Judaism is steeped in that
elitist concept. Zionism and its messianic equivalents are natural products
of the concept and thus there is not a clear delineation between them.

Human conduct is largely governed by human attitudes, values and beliefs.
There is of course a battle of ideas to evolve the most appropriate systems
of thought to govern the continuity of human life on this planet and in all
probability, highly appropriate systems of belief will evolve out of our
crises; but the political and spiritual attitudes, values and beliefs that
have presided over the mass murder, military bungling and global chaos we
have seen in recent years can't hold together a logically consistent train
of thought, let alone govern a viable global community. It is not that
difficult to imagine the qualities necessary to bind the diversity of human
culture into a more or less cooperative whole. Exclusiveness and the
exclusion of even known allies seem inimical to the idea of social
cooperation on the face of it.

I am not convinced that banning someone like Dick Eastman from this group
contributes significantly to the open debate necessary to evolve the most
appropriate thinking for the future, especially when it comes to the source
of the most inappropriate attitudes, values and beliefs. Dick can be a
little over the top on occasions, but he is fairly quick to admit his errors
where demonstrated and slow to yield where not.

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Message 3
From: "Cait" ansith@gmail.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:54am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Reflections in the magic mirror

I second this, for several reasons of my own. First, there is a connection
between 9/11 and some, notice I said some, aspects of Zionism, Mossad,
Israel...and those connections must be discussed and explored as thoroughly
as any other aspect of 9/11. I do not believe that "The Jews did 9/11!" nor
do I advocate that premise in any way.

Dick Eastman is a fountain of information regarding 9/11 and current world
events, whether you agree with all of his personal opinions or not.

In order to uncover and thus propogate the TRUTH about 9/11, we MUST delve
into those darker territories that many of us would prefer not to look at.
Whether it proves itself worthy or not in the end, at least it was
considered and debated. We cannot simply gloss over an issue because it is
uncomfortable.

If we want to preserve the freedom of speech, it needs to begin here.

-------Original Message-------

From: Peter Vervoorn
Date: 04/22/06 08:31:42
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] Reflections in the magic mirror

I am not convinced it was a good idea to ban Dick Eastman for failing to
distinguish clearly between Judaism and Zionism. The root of the arrogance
of Zionism – like all elitist belief, be it Islamic, Jewish, Christian,
Hindu, fascist German, or patriotic American – is the concept that one group
of people alone is superior; by virtue of their culture or belief; and
chosen by God or destiny to rule the world. Judaism is steeped in that
elitist concept. Zionism and its messianic equivalents are natural products
of the concept and thus there is not a clear delineation between them.

Human conduct is largely governed by human attitudes, values and beliefs.
There is of course a battle of ideas to evolve the most appropriate systems
of thought to govern the continuity of human life on this planet and in all
probability, highly appropriate systems of belief will evolve out of our
crises; but the political and spiritual attitudes, values and beliefs that
have presided over the mass murder, military bungling and global chaos we
have seen in recent years can’t hold together a logically consistent train
of thought, let alone govern a viable global community. It is not that
difficult to imagine the qualities necessary to bind the diversity of human
culture into a more or less cooperative whole. Exclusiveness and the
exclusion of even known allies seem inimical to the idea of social
cooperation on the face of it.

I am not convinced that banning someone like Dick Eastman from this group
contributes significantly to the open debate necessary to evolve the most
appropriate thinking for the future, especially when it comes to the source
of the most inappropriate attitudes, values and beliefs. Dick can be a
little over the top on occasions, but he is fairly quick to admit his errors
where demonstrated and slow to yield where not.

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Message 4
From: "angela mvbride" fourddream@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:06am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Reflections in the magic mirror

Bit hasty indeed, might have waited for his reaction first, he might of said oeps hey you're right, hadn't quite looked at it like that before, or that he wasn't quite convinced of the moderator's view and wished to discuss it further, would that be so wrong? As long as he's not churning out pure nonsense and hatred? We should as TRUTH movement not be afraid to discuss these points and of course with the purpose of figuring it out.
I think a warning was more fitting here hey.
The very same issues that have devided society, that we try to expose, threaten to tear the truth movement apart too. Weren't we trying to cut through the finger pointing game? (that's for Dick) and weren't we trying to break down taboos that hold the whole thing in place. Taboos that forbid us to talk about "certain things" in "certain ways". We can't adopt their taboo psychology, we have to be open to all REASONABLE arguments as long as we can't disprove them.
Those who are completely "through the veil" so to speak, as in seeing the whole finger pointing game for what it is can find it irritating to find the mentally present still in many in this movement, now as it grows but we are human beings and all at different stages in developing our knowledge of this mind control matrix which becomes more obvious every day,
I assume that people who join this movement after finding out the truth about 911 are all basically good people prepared to stand up and be counted for truth. That most then begin that journey behind the 9 11 veil bringing all their previous preconceptions with them is only natural but I reckon that after a while they start to get the big picture in their own time.
It's no big deal, but if we start banning them when they "speak out of turn" then we're on the very slippery slide that goes all the way down to the reptile mentality we attempt to combat.
A..
A.

Peter Vervoorn <peter04@problemsolving.com.au> wrote:
I am not convinced it was a good idea to ban Dick Eastman for failing to distinguish clearly between Judaism and Zionism. The root of the arrogance of Zionism – like all elitist belief, be it Islamic, Jewish, Christian, Hindu, fascist German, or patriotic American – is the concept that one group of people alone is superior; by virtue of their culture or belief; and chosen by God or destiny to rule the world. Judaism is steeped in that elitist concept. Zionism and its messianic equivalents are natural products of the concept and thus there is not a clear delineation between them.

Human conduct is largely governed by human attitudes, values and beliefs. There is of course a battle of ideas to evolve the most appropriate systems of thought to govern the continuity of human life on this planet and in all probability, highly appropriate systems of belief will evolve out of our crises; but the political and spiritual attitudes, values and beliefs that have presided over the mass murder, military bungling and global chaos we have seen in recent years can’t hold together a logically consistent train of thought, let alone govern a viable global community. It is not that difficult to imagine the qualities necessary to bind the diversity of human culture into a more or less cooperative whole. Exclusiveness and the exclusion of even known allies seem inimical to the idea of social cooperation on the face of it.

I am not convinced that banning someone like Dick Eastman from this group contributes significantly to the open debate necessary to evolve the most appropriate thinking for the future, especially when it comes to the source of the most inappropriate attitudes, values and beliefs. Dick can be a little over the top on occasions, but he is fairly quick to admit his errors where demonstrated and slow to yield where not.

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Message 5
From: "kitty285" kitty285@charter.net
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:10am(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

Im in a small town in middle Georgia.Thank you for your help Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Hammond" <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?

> Good work Kitty. There are many parts of scripture that are very
appropriate for this situation. I will look for them. Where in the belt
are you by the way? Oh, And you are a TRUE patriot. Keep up the good
work. And be careful.
>
> Kevin
>
> Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ahh a refreshing post, I was seriously thinking of leaving thanks to
eastman's spam.......
>
> What works like a charm on people is when i bring up how many buildings
collapsed that fateful day, they respond two.... I say nope,
three....building 7 that magically came down at 4 in the afternoon!
>
> to me, its like making a crash belly landing with a 747... gotta be
careful with some folks....
>
> kitty285 <kitty285@charter.net> wrote:
> Would you believe i get remarks like i voted for Bush,because my Daddy
> always voted Republican,im talking about a man,my son in-law,says he don't
> want to know about anything,he will just vote for Rice,just sends me to
> tears.
> The old saying don't matter who you vote for,just get out there,and vote
is
> a bunch of crap !!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jolly Roger" <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
> To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
> been?
>
>
> > Kitty -- if someone's not receptive to the info move on -- some people
> simply don't want to know the truth. Try to convinve one or two people
close
> to you so you have someone to work with. And since the mainstream media
has
> already convinced them that you're crazy for suggesting such a thing, it
> might be wise to first discredit the MSM by exposing some of their other
> lies, and that might pave the way to having a more receptive 9-11 Truth
> audience.
> >
> > kitty285 <kitty285@charter.net> wrote: Kevin,im trying to work the
Bible
> Belt without my head blown off by a red
> > neck !!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Hammond" <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
> > To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
> > been?
> >
> >
> > > The internet is NOT ENOUGH. There are millions that do NOT have
access.
> > We are now getting down to the wire and must pull out ALL of the stops
and
> > LITTERALLY do EVERYTHING that we can to get this information OUT! The
> > alternative is a MASSIVE one world police state the likes of which NO
ONE
> > here can possibly fathom. PLEASE! everyone one this group that knows
> > ANYTHING about 9/11 and false flag terror MUST get out there and educate
> as
> > many people as possible! Otherwisw we are all up a creek without a
> paddle.
> > Go to the files section and download flyers and copy them and put them
> > EVERYWHERE! Burn copies of dvds and give them out. Do whatever you CAN
> to
> > get this information OUT!.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > > www.fightthenwo.org
> > >
> > > Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR:
> > url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape {
> > BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } I have always placed my
faith
> on
> > using the internet to expose to the world what they are and what they
have
> > done. The 9-11 frameup is a crime big enough that people can't brush it
> > aside. Our best hope is to show the world the ample evidence of the
> > false-flag attack -- and then enlarge that hole until their motives and
> > their other crimes are exposed. They cannot withstand public opinion.
> > >
> > > It is the only strategy I know -- and it is one I will keep
> ushing --
> > but I must admit, in five years I have not seen the people take what we
> > already know and use it to enlighten the world.
> > >
> > > Charlie Sheen is the best thing that has happened in five years.
May
> > circumstances favor his efforts.
> > >
> > > Dick Eastman
> > > Yakima, Washington
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Scott Peden
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:27 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth
> movement
> > been?
> > >
> > >
> > > So, you are saying that it is hopeless?
> > >
> > > Or do you proscribe a course of action as the internet ad our
freedoms
> > evaporate all at once?
> > >
> > > Or are you depending on the masses to rise up when their
entertainment
> > is taken away?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dick Eastman
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:10 AM
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth
movement
> > been?
> > >
> > > The plague will not be like the attack on the Pentagon -- it will be
> > beyond our ability to investigate.
> > >
> > > Next the nuclear bomb that will be blamed on Iraq -- because there
> will
> > be no invasion right away, they are setting Iran up for blame for the
> > false-flag nuclear attack -- the bomb that will be blamed on Iran will
not
> > leave evidence -- and the sudden loss of all freedoms by the
declaration
> > of martial law, including the shutdown of the internet, will not permit
> > investigations of any kind.
> > >
> > > Or perhaps they will let the internet continue so they can guage our
> > thinking and trace our connections -- more for them to lose by cutting
us
> > off.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Scott Legere
> > >
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:14 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth
> movement
> > been?
> > >
> > > It's amazing what a little awareness can do huh?
> > >
> > > mikemeyer1964 <mike.meyer@asm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > With all of the saber rattling with Iran, I had the following
> > > thought. I believe that the 911 Truth Movement has been successful in
> > > one key area. While we have not broken through to main stream
> > > America, I believe that we have created enough awareness about 911
> > > that the gov't has to really think twice before they can stage another
> > > False Flag event.
> > >
> > > The gov't has gotten away with covering up 911 to date, in part
> > > because they effectively created a cover story and destroyed the
> > > evidence very quickly. With enough people aware of what our gov't is
> > > capable of now, if they try another False Flag, there will be a lot of
> > > people recording every news station and outlet; video and still
> > > camera's everywhere, and a lot more people asking a lot more questions
> > > right after the event. It will be more difficult to cover up
> > > evidence. I was curious as to everyone's thoughts on what I would
> > > call a small success for the movement.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Message 6
From: "reggie501" reggie501@optonline.net
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:27am(PDT)
Subject: 9/11 Update - 4/22

9/11 News : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#911

· Scholars Call Moussaoui Trial a "Charade;" See Constitutional Rights
on Trial; Describe Accused as Patsy - "Even the most basic elements of
due process have been violated," according to James H. Fetzer, its
founder and co-chair, "by failing to prove that the accused had
anything to do with 9/11. What we are seeing here tends to
substantiate Charlie Sheen's allegations."

· Bush Defector To Demolish 911 Lies On May 6 - Dr. Reynolds, who
holds three U.W.-Madison degrees, and who is currently Professor of
Economics at Texas A&M University, will present evidence that top Bush
Administration officials orchestrated the controlled demolition of the
World Trade Center, and the murder of almost 2,500 Americans, as a
pretext for initiating their pre-planned "long war" in the Middle East.

· US intel report: Major increase in terrorist incidents - Roughly 85
percent of the US citizens who died from terrorism during the year
died in Iraq. The figures cover only noncombatants and thus don't
include combat deaths of US, Iraqi and other coalition soldiers.

· 9-11 LAWSUITS SUPPRESSED - While the media plays up the significance
of the government show trial of the seemingly deranged "20th hijacker"
Zacharias Moussaoui, not one 9-11 victim's lawsuit has been allowed to
be heard in a trial by jury. Why have the 9-11 victims' families not
been given the same right to have their cases heard in an open trial?

· 9-11 and the Ultimate Insider Trading - This non-partisan
presentation reveals a tangled web of government agencies, government
personnel and private companies that, through complex maneuvers prior
to the attack of 9-11, profited most handsomely from the attack. This
video exposes much, but leaves the viewer to answer the larger
question of how so many interrelated coincidences could possibly
occur, producing incredible profit for a select few, without the
benefit of foreknowledge and planning. Question: Who stood to profit
the most from the 9-11 attacks? Hint: (It was not Bin Laden)

· Former German Minister Says Building 7 Used To Run 9/11 Attack -
Former Helmut Schmidt cabinet member, 25-year German Parliamentarian
and global intelligence expert Andreas Von Bülow says that the 9/11
attack was run by the highest levels of the US intelligence apparatus
using WTC Building 7 as a command bunker which was later demolished in
order to destroy the crime scene.

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Message 7
From: "angiesept11" angiesept11@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:30am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Reflections in the magic mirror

Dick Eastman has been banned from this group and will remain so as
long as I have moderator status. Those wanting to read his posts can
go to his own newsgroup. Do a search. We're back to 9/11 Truth
Action here now, 24/7, and that's it. We won't even be discussing on
this board the moderation of this board. We're going to stay on
topic, and off-topic posts will be deleted and anyone who persists in
posting off topic will be banned. It is absolutely disgusting that
"the Jews did 9/11" and "jew talk" posts were ever on this board. Any
posts agreeing or disagreeing with this post will similarly be
deleted, because again, just to be clear, this board is about 911
truth activism. That's it.

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Cait" <ansith@...> wrote:
>
> I second this, for several reasons of my own. First, there is a
connection
> between 9/11 and some, notice I said some, aspects of Zionism, Mossad,
> Israel...and those connections must be discussed and explored as
thoroughly
> as any other aspect of 9/11. I do not believe that "The Jews did
9/11!" nor
> do I advocate that premise in any way.
>
> Dick Eastman is a fountain of information regarding 9/11 and current
world
> events, whether you agree with all of his personal opinions or not.
>
> In order to uncover and thus propogate the TRUTH about 9/11, we MUST
delve
> into those darker territories that many of us would prefer not to
look at.
> Whether it proves itself worthy or not in the end, at least it was
> considered and debated. We cannot simply gloss over an issue because
it is
> uncomfortable.
>
> If we want to preserve the freedom of speech, it needs to begin here.
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Peter Vervoorn
> Date: 04/22/06 08:31:42
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [911TruthAction] Reflections in the magic mirror
>
> I am not convinced it was a good idea to ban Dick Eastman for failing to
> distinguish clearly between Judaism and Zionism. The root of the
arrogance
> of Zionism – like all elitist belief, be it Islamic, Jewish, Christian,
> Hindu, fascist German, or patriotic American – is the concept that
one group
> of people alone is superior; by virtue of their culture or belief; and
> chosen by God or destiny to rule the world. Judaism is steeped in that
> elitist concept. Zionism and its messianic equivalents are natural
products
> of the concept and thus there is not a clear delineation between them.
>
> Human conduct is largely governed by human attitudes, values and
beliefs.
> There is of course a battle of ideas to evolve the most appropriate
systems
> of thought to govern the continuity of human life on this planet and
in all
> probability, highly appropriate systems of belief will evolve out of our
> crises; but the political and spiritual attitudes, values and
beliefs that
> have presided over the mass murder, military bungling and global
chaos we
> have seen in recent years can't hold together a logically consistent
train
> of thought, let alone govern a viable global community. It is not that
> difficult to imagine the qualities necessary to bind the diversity
of human
> culture into a more or less cooperative whole. Exclusiveness and the
> exclusion of even known allies seem inimical to the idea of social
> cooperation on the face of it.
>
> I am not convinced that banning someone like Dick Eastman from this
group
> contributes significantly to the open debate necessary to evolve the
most
> appropriate thinking for the future, especially when it comes to the
source
> of the most inappropriate attitudes, values and beliefs. Dick can be a
> little over the top on occasions, but he is fairly quick to admit
his errors
> where demonstrated and slow to yield where not.
>
>
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Message 8
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:32am(PDT)
Subject: Re: I've just banned two posters & this should be end of despicable

that's why I said there is a Zionist element to 9/11, you can't ignore it, but if you start carelessly intertwining Judaism and Zionism that poses the potential to stir up a hornets nest. 9/11 is really a paradigm shattering event, so much so that it makes you question whether up is really up and not down disguised as up. Again you made a good point of talking bout zionists behind 9/11, an Zionist element does exist. Zionism is a political philosophy, not religion. Same idea applied to the assertion the Freemasons are behind the move towards world government, no there certainly are high level Freemasons involved doesn't mean every Freemason is involved, And so on...
You bring up the Mossad/German connection, I have a stranger case for ya. The head of Pakistani ISI wired money to the "lead hi-jacker" atta, on the day of 9/11 and was meeting with porter goss and senator graham!

Bottomline is that there's a lot of cultural camouflage we are fighting against, I personnally like to call them cultural minefields deliberately placed in our path to obfiscate. And things not directly connected to 9/11 must be discussed and Jolly's no censorship policy. As a moderator, it's quite exhausting walking the tightrope of trying to maintain a refuge for honest open discussion against the onslaught of crazyness floating out there, its a damned if you don't damned if you do kinda position.....

angela mvbride <fourddream@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yea, and the zionists are backed by the neo cons using saudie funds from the bin ladin family.
SO WHAT??????????
The friggin antichrist calls himself christian. SO WHAT.
Get over it all of you and start working together for the human family against this reptilian mindset.
Yes we should be outraged but outraged at the right thing and that is the arrogant manipulations of these extortionists who have made themselves our leaders, working in the same uniek way as the AIDS virus does beginning by infiltrating and taking over the immune (defence) systems.
Change your focus is best but hey, I agree in so far that people need to know ALL these things, and I agree that the palastinian cause is a just cause and it is close to my heart, but saying zionists were behind 911 (I'm sure some were) is too simplistic for this. This rabbit hole is way deeper. These monsters are way wierder than that. Zionism is as christianity, judeaism and islam used by them as tools, accentuate the differences stir a little shit cause a lot of poverty and suffering and you got them where you want, the sheeple..
Did you know that mossad worked on German passports? So who's who? Now you see it now you don't, they love this element of their scam. Their symbol on the dollar bill is an easy example of their "in your face from outer space" mentality.
We've come to a point in history where we have to rethink everything we know of our history and start thinking outside of the box.
I guess I still agree with Angie on this one.
A.

angiesept11 <angiesept11@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Message 9
From: "janet phelan" jcphelan10@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:48am(PDT)
Subject: Re: I've just banned two posters & this should be end of despicable

The re-emergence of the "Jewish question" is intrinsic
to the agenda that is emerging around us. The taps of
anti-semitism have been turned on again, and turned on
with utter premeditation. One of the reasons, I
believe, that the groups keep somehow migrating to
these kinds of posts is because this entire Hitlerian
agenda is being engineered from on high.

I sat in a Truth Seekers meeting last week , at a
Chinese restaurant in Austin. Greg Syzmanski was
speaking to the group, and his viewpoint was that the
entire agenda traces back to the Jesuits. During the
Q and A period, a very well-spoken woman started
speaking in a very compelling and articulate manner,
insisting that the Jesuits were, in fact , Jews, and
that the Jews were to blame for what was happening in
the world.

I was being interviewed last year on First Amendment
Radio, and in the middle of my interview, the talk
show host stated, "I think George Bush is a Jew."
And he did not mean this as a compliment. We were
live, I was on the air, I am Jewish, and dealing with
that level of insidious race/religious hatred on the
air live was one of the challenges of my career.

We can't get away from these kinds of feelings and
expressions. They are being engineered through the
controlled media, and they will probably keep
infecting the groups. I believe they need to be dealt
with and confronted head-on.

The rise of anti-semitism since 911 serves the Zionist
agenda. It serves to fan a particular brand of
hatred which serves the true interests of the power
cabal.

Janet C. Phelan

--- Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:

> that's why I said there is a Zionist element to
> 9/11, you can't ignore it, but if you start
> carelessly intertwining Judaism and Zionism that
> poses the potential to stir up a hornets nest. 9/11
> is really a paradigm shattering event, so much so
> that it makes you question whether up is really up
> and not down disguised as up. Again you made a good
> point of talking bout zionists behind 9/11, an
> Zionist element does exist. Zionism is a political
> philosophy, not religion. Same idea applied to the
> assertion the Freemasons are behind the move towards
> world government, no there certainly are high level
> Freemasons involved doesn't mean every Freemason is
> involved, And so on...
> You bring up the Mossad/German connection, I have
> a stranger case for ya. The head of Pakistani ISI
> wired money to the "lead hi-jacker" atta, on the day
> of 9/11 and was meeting with porter goss and senator
> graham!
>
> Bottomline is that there's a lot of cultural
> camouflage we are fighting against, I personnally
> like to call them cultural minefields deliberately
> placed in our path to obfiscate. And things not
> directly connected to 9/11 must be discussed and
> Jolly's no censorship policy. As a moderator, it's
> quite exhausting walking the tightrope of trying to
> maintain a refuge for honest open discussion against
> the onslaught of crazyness floating out there, its a
> damned if you don't damned if you do kinda
> position.....
>
> angela mvbride <fourddream@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yea, and the zionists are backed by the neo cons
> using saudie funds from the bin ladin family.
> SO WHAT??????????
> The friggin antichrist calls himself christian. SO
> WHAT.
> Get over it all of you and start working together
> for the human family against this reptilian mindset.
> Yes we should be outraged but outraged at the
> right thing and that is the arrogant manipulations
> of these extortionists who have made themselves our
> leaders, working in the same uniek way as the AIDS
> virus does beginning by infiltrating and taking over
> the immune (defence) systems.
> Change your focus is best but hey, I agree in so
> far that people need to know ALL these things, and I
> agree that the palastinian cause is a just cause and
> it is close to my heart, but saying zionists were
> behind 911 (I'm sure some were) is too simplistic
> for this. This rabbit hole is way deeper. These
> monsters are way wierder than that. Zionism is as
> christianity, judeaism and islam used by them as
> tools, accentuate the differences stir a little shit
> cause a lot of poverty and suffering and you got
> them where you want, the sheeple..
> Did you know that mossad worked on German
> passports? So who's who? Now you see it now you
> don't, they love this element of their scam. Their
> symbol on the dollar bill is an easy example of
> their "in your face from outer space" mentality.
> We've come to a point in history where we have to
> rethink everything we know of our history and start
> thinking outside of the box.
> I guess I still agree with Angie on this one.
> A.
>
> angiesept11 <angiesept11@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Back to 911, please.
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Hammond
> <sir_oglaigh@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I read this zionist propaganda. Funny how there
> is absolutely NO
> MENTION of the FACT that it is DOCUMENTED that hamas
> was and still IS
> a creation/asset of the Mossad. Hmm. neither did
> it mention the
> balfour declaration and how it came about.
> >
> > kenny318east3 <kenny318east3@...> wrote: --- In
> 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, mann david
> <dmann51@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > For what it's worth, you are correct and for the
> right
> > > reason. This is the LAST PLACE we need to be
> reading
> > > "CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS" (i.e., Nazi) PROPAGANDA
> !!
> >
> > - It is commonly assumed that Muslims are
> "terrorists" and that it's
> necessary
> > to kill them in preemptive self-defense.
> >
> > - In fact there are many people who continue to
> endorse the idea of
> sending
> > US military personnel overseas to subdue the
> Muslims, in the hope of
> reining
> > them in and to neutralize the threat which they
> allegedly pose to us.
> >
> > - It's only on rare occasions that people
> demonstrate any
> inhibitions or
> > reservations about discussing the Muslims and
> their beliefs ...
> >
> > But then we dare not level any criticism at the
> Jews.
> >
> > I would like to know where this double-standard is
> coming from and
> how it got
> > started.
> >
> > Please check out the radical "shit list" that
> targets dissident
> Jewish people for
> > boycott. http://masada2000.org/shit-list.html
> >
> > Ken.
> >
> > > --- Naveed <flanker12k@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I trust your judgment angie, no disagreements
> from
> > > > me. I think i lost track of the number of
> times I
> > > > kept telling eastman to make the distinction
> between
> > > > jews and zionists.....only once did i retract
> > > > because he was trying to make a point.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@> wrote: No
> > > > argument from me. he was asked nicely more
> than
> > > > just a couple of times to differentiate
> between
> > > > judaism and zionism and he failed to do so.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > > www.fightthenwo.org have you seen my site
> yet?
> > > > Please check it out and give me any feedback
> as I
> > > > respect your opinion.
> > > >
> > > > angiesept11 <angiesept11@> wrote:
> > > > I've just banned two posters, Dick Eastman,
> > > > for his "The Jews did 9-11" post and the
> > > > poster calling himself "joohistory" who posted
> > > > something on Adolf Hitler. I unfortunately
> rarely
> > > > get a chance to monitor or keep current with
> this
> > > > newsgroup for which I have some moderator
> > > > privileges,
> > > > and to see this offensive stuff on a rare
> occasion
> > > > when
> > > > I check in is worse that disturbing.
> Associating
> > > > any religion with the culprits of 9/11 is
> worse
> > > > than stupid, it's evil and I'm disgusted to
> see it
> > > > on this list. When I see it, I'll ban it -
> and
> > > > this
> > > > shouldn't be any more cause for discussion
> either.
> > > > The topic is 9/11 PERIOD. It shouldn't be
> necessary
> > > > to point out that anyone involved in planning
> > > > the crime has NO true spirituality or
> religion. I
> > > > hope
> > > > this list can be reborn into something where
> this
> > > > stuff
> > > > isn't tolerated. If other moderators
> disagree, just
> > > > let
> > > > me know & I'll be on my merry way because I
> cannot
> > > > associate
> > > > with this filth, nor do I want to see any
> discussion
> > > > of it. 9/11 should never be used to further
> > > > anyone's
> > > > anti-semitic agenda, nor should this list
> which is
> > > > intended
>
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Message 10
From: "angiesept11" angiesept11@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:52am(PDT)
Subject: 9/11 Truth in South America

Copied below is an English translation of a 9/11 article
which is now appearing in a Chile newspaper. The same
issue also reprints the 20 reasons why 9/11 Scholars
doubt the official story. (That has not been copied
below). The Spanish versions can be read online here:
http://www.elguardian.cl Ed. 4 pages 13 and 15.
It's a monthly newspaper, sold on newstands from Arica to
Punta Arenas. The publishers estimate a readership of 500,000
in total.

"David Ray Griffin in his book, "The 9/11 Commission Report—Omissions
and Distortions", summarizes many facts and reports from important
eye-witnesses, who were certain of the things they saw on 9/11/ 2001.
He is only one of the thousands of concerned voices.
Even before doubts arose about the "official" report by the 9/11
Commission, its director Philip Zilikow and President Bush had asked
the public not to tolerate any "outrageous conspiracy theories" that
might arise to contradict the official report.
The government's own report was a classic conspiracy theory with the
conspirators being members of al-Qaeda, operating in USA, to destroy
people and buildings, using airliners for reasons of religious or
political origin. Nobody is really sure, how it was done, but it
definitely happened in a shocking way. Obviously the warning was
asking that all "other" reports be considered "outrageous." Not all
Americans or other nations are convinced that the official report
leaves nothing more to be investigated, and that it should all be
"closed" and put under the "not to be disturbed" label.
It was an event that affected the entire world, and set all Islamic
and Christian nations at a precarious global situation due to the
events that followed. It may even have much bigger implications.
We can see from the eye-witness reports by those present at the time
and those who were involved in the clean-up operations that a full
report is yet to come. Too many gaps and unanswered questions mean
that eventually a new report will be demanded.
According to David Ray Griffin, Philip Zilikow, part of the Bush
transition in the NSC and a co-author of a book with Condoleezza Rice,
director of national security affairs, does little to build
confidence, because he isn't independent of the White House.
What distinguishes an outrageous theory from a non-outrageous one is
that it can explain in a coherent way the relevant factors and is not
contradicted by any of them. A bad theory is one that is contradicted
by some of the facts. An outrageous theory is one that is contradicted
by virtually all the facts, and the discovery that "other" facts are
to be ignored, and not reported nor analyzed. With this in mind David
Ray Griffin publishes his findings and studies reasons to explain why
he is not satisfied.
So far the administration has remained silent. Some areas believe that
there will be another event to justify an escalation of the Middle
East war and a military government imposed in USA.
Unthinkable, is the reaction from much of the public sector but many
of the voices raised as a warning are those of credible witnesses.
People who have and still do work in CIA, FBI and many other areas of
government and security. Their comments are going to be heard
eventually, along with those who survived.

Ronald Modra
-------------------------------------

Angie
911 Truth Movement Musings (Watching the Watchers)
http://www.Angieon911.com

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Message 11
From: "Cait" ansith@gmail.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:16am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Reflections in the magic mirror

Hard to be an activist for the truth when one is not armed with all the
available information. I'm not sure who this Angiesept11 is, but I'm
considerably unimpressed and completely disgusted with the threat of
censorship in a group supposedly advocating the discover and dissemination
of the truth to the world at large.

-------Original Message-------

From: angiesept11
Date: 04/22/06 10:30:54
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Reflections in the magic mirror

Dick Eastman has been banned from this group and will remain so as
long as I have moderator status. Those wanting to read his posts can
go to his own newsgroup. Do a search. We're back to 9/11 Truth
Action here now, 24/7, and that's it. We won't even be discussing on
this board the moderation of this board. We're going to stay on
topic, and off-topic posts will be deleted and anyone who persists in
posting off topic will be banned. It is absolutely disgusting that
"the Jews did 9/11" and "jew talk" posts were ever on this board. Any
posts agreeing or disagreeing with this post will similarly be
deleted, because again, just to be clear, this board is about 911
truth activism. That's it.

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Message 12
From: "angela mvbride" fourddream@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:22am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Reflections in the magic mirror

Dito, you can't be serious Angiesept11, can you?
A.

Cait <ansith@gmail.com> wrote:
Hard to be an activist for the truth when one is not armed with all the available information. I'm not sure who this Angiesept11 is, but I'm considerably unimpressed and completely disgusted with the threat of censorship in a group supposedly advocating the discover and dissemination of the truth to the world at large.

-------Original Message-------

From: angiesept11
Date: 04/22/06 10:30:54
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Reflections in the magic mirror

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Message 13
From: "stoelting1981" fiat@sofnet.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:59am(PDT)
Subject: 9/11

Google Search: "Arrest Bush 41"

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Message 14
From: "angiesept11" angiesept11@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:26am(PDT)
Subject: Re: 9/11 Truth in South America

Here are the direct links & you can see that
both stories start on the same page, and with
a picture of the towers:

http://www.elguardian.cl/diario%204/E212.htm
http://www.elguardian.cl/diario%204/E214.htm

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "angiesept11" <angiesept11@...>
wrote:
>
> Copied below is an English translation of a 9/11 article
> which is now appearing in a Chile newspaper. The same
> issue also reprints the 20 reasons why 9/11 Scholars
> doubt the official story. (That has not been copied
> below). The Spanish versions can be read online here:
> http://www.elguardian.cl Ed. 4 pages 13 and 15.
> It's a monthly newspaper, sold on newstands from Arica to
> Punta Arenas. The publishers estimate a readership of 500,000
> in total.
>
> "David Ray Griffin in his book, "The 9/11 Commission Report—Omissions
> and Distortions", summarizes many facts and reports from important
> eye-witnesses, who were certain of the things they saw on 9/11/ 2001.
> He is only one of the thousands of concerned voices.
> Even before doubts arose about the "official" report by the 9/11
> Commission, its director Philip Zilikow and President Bush had asked
> the public not to tolerate any "outrageous conspiracy theories" that
> might arise to contradict the official report.
> The government's own report was a classic conspiracy theory with the
> conspirators being members of al-Qaeda, operating in USA, to destroy
> people and buildings, using airliners for reasons of religious or
> political origin. Nobody is really sure, how it was done, but it
> definitely happened in a shocking way. Obviously the warning was
> asking that all "other" reports be considered "outrageous." Not all
> Americans or other nations are convinced that the official report
> leaves nothing more to be investigated, and that it should all be
> "closed" and put under the "not to be disturbed" label.
> It was an event that affected the entire world, and set all Islamic
> and Christian nations at a precarious global situation due to the
> events that followed. It may even have much bigger implications.
> We can see from the eye-witness reports by those present at the time
> and those who were involved in the clean-up operations that a full
> report is yet to come. Too many gaps and unanswered questions mean
> that eventually a new report will be demanded.
> According to David Ray Griffin, Philip Zilikow, part of the Bush
> transition in the NSC and a co-author of a book with Condoleezza Rice,
> director of national security affairs, does little to build
> confidence, because he isn't independent of the White House.
> What distinguishes an outrageous theory from a non-outrageous one is
> that it can explain in a coherent way the relevant factors and is not
> contradicted by any of them. A bad theory is one that is contradicted
> by some of the facts. An outrageous theory is one that is contradicted
> by virtually all the facts, and the discovery that "other" facts are
> to be ignored, and not reported nor analyzed. With this in mind David
> Ray Griffin publishes his findings and studies reasons to explain why
> he is not satisfied.
> So far the administration has remained silent. Some areas believe that
> there will be another event to justify an escalation of the Middle
> East war and a military government imposed in USA.
> Unthinkable, is the reaction from much of the public sector but many
> of the voices raised as a warning are those of credible witnesses.
> People who have and still do work in CIA, FBI and many other areas of
> government and security. Their comments are going to be heard
> eventually, along with those who survived.
>
>
> Ronald Modra
> -------------------------------------
>
> Angie
> 911 Truth Movement Musings (Watching the Watchers)
> http://www.Angieon911.com
>

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Message 15
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." prez@usa-exile.org
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:32am(PDT)
Subject: A Day in the LIfe: 4/22/6

GOVERNMENT OF THE USA IN
EXILE
Free Americans
Reaching Out to Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free

Via <prez@usa-exile.org>

April 22, 2006

From: "Eric A. Smith" <snowdog@juno.ocn.ne.jp>
Date: April 21, 2006 3:07:27 PM EST
To: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: Breaking: 75-year-old Grandmother Headed for Guantanamo

Friday, April 21, 2006

Breaking: 75-Year-Old Grandmother Headed
for Guantanamo

Reuters - 4 hours ago

NEW YORK - In a move some Republican strategists suggest might spell
problems for an increasingly unpopular White House, Grannies for Peace
member Doris MacInshaw was yesterday declared an "enemy combatant" and
flown to Guantanamo Bay, where she now awaits interrogation.

MacInshaw was arrested for rioting and battery at a military recruiting
center last October, and yesterday allegedly assaulted a Marine sergent
at a state university.

Said Micheal Brunell-Stevens, Division Chief of Homeland Security's
Gamma Force, "This kind of behavior cannot be tolerated in a time of
war. Securing the homeland is and must be our top priority. Showing
lenience only gives comfort to our enemies."

He added that MacInshaw will be spared the more "extreme" forms of
interrogation "...as long as she continues to cooperate with our
ongoing investigation".

When asked to comment, George Bush replied with characteristic resolve:
"We will not sit idly by as these threats gather, and we will continue
to act before dangers are upon us."

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales spoke with the press corps briefly,
hinting at new draft legislation that will allow preemptive action to
prevent future such disruptions as the country prepares for possible
tactical nuclear strikes against Iran.

http://aliberaldose.blogspot.com

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Date: April 22, 2006 4:11:50 AM EST
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PNAC: THE 'PROJECT FOR A NEFARIOUS AMERICAN CENTURY':

* ON THE BUCKLES OF THE BELTS HITLER'S NAZI-SS WORE, it said the same
as George Bush keeps repeating: 'Gott mit Uns' - 'God is on our side' -
SS/CIA - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/9xqcr

* US TERROR in a CNN Poll - Question: "Do you believe there is a U.S.
government cover-up surrounding 9/11?" - 'Yes' - 89% - 'NO' - 11% -
Url.: http://tinyurl.com/7w7c5

* US BABY GENOCIDE DEFENDED: Former U.S. PNAC-Secr. of State Madeleine
Albright-Korbel, 10 years ago in her comment on the at least HALF A
MILLION dead children in Iraq, which now is estimated at ONE MILLION
MORE BY UNICEF: "WE THINK THE PRICE IS WORTH IT" - On CBS '60 Minutes'
- Url.: http://tinyurl.com/2vmc8

* Iraq: Pictures from the front line: What the U.S. Press Won't Show
You. - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/qxbxn

* HOLODOMOR = HOLOCAUST 0F MORE THAN 6 MILLION IN UKRAINE - Writer Eric
Margolis: "The Soviet's genocide accounted for at least 40 million
victims, not including 20 million war dead. Kaganovitch and many senior
OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were Jewish." - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/kycrw - Stalin's Terminator: LAZAR KAGANOVITCH -
Url.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

* US CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL CONFIRMING THE CREATION OF A WORLD
GOVERNMENT - "He asked if there was an international conspiracy to
overthrow our government: The answer is ''Yes" - Short video - Url.:
http://100777.com/media/RonPaul-NewWorldOrder.wmv

* CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN THE US? - 'IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE!' - But of
you don't react now... - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/o6lpx

* THE 'WHY' OF GLOBAL RESISTANCE - HOW IT IS DONE BY THE PNAC'S CIA
JACKALS & THE WORLD BANK's SERIAL KILLER WOLFOWITZ - 'Confessions of an
economic 'hit man'. World Bank insider Perkins explains: "Jackals' are
C.I.A. - sanctioned people that come in and try to foment a coup or
revolution. If it doesn't work, they perform assassinations, or try
to." - They steal billions for the World Bank, IMF, USAID, UNDP, AID
etc. - Perkins web site - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/jvhbu - It's your
life too: Must watch Video Url.:
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8171.htm

* PRESENT AND PAST - UNICEF reports on another PNAC HOLOCAUST: 'The
under-5 infant mortality for 2003 was 110,000 in occupied Iraq, 292,000
in occupied Afghanistan.' - Gideon Polya: 'Non-reportage of US-linked
infant mass mortality' - December 23, 2004 - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/rb3rx

* The 'PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY's is HOLOCAUSTING MORE
TODDLERS: 'Children Continue To Be the Main Victims Of the U.S. War
Crimes.' - By Dr. César Chelala - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/oys87

* 'PROJECT FOR A NUCLEAR AMERICAN CENTURY': NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST FOR YOU
TOO - Depleted Uranium for Dummies - Url.: http://www.notinkansas.us

* THE NEW SCIENTIST ABOUT ONE OF THE PNAC'S WEAPONS AGAINST US:
SWEEPING STUN GUNS TO TARGET AND CONTROL YOU AND/OR CROWDS - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/kbx58

* THIS IS A VERY INFORMATIVE ARTICLE - AN EYE-OPENER - After working
around the globe for more than forty years, I can not find anything
wrong with this eloquent description of the state of affairs: ''Just
six simple words that carry the weight of the world upon them, six
simple words that act as the engine for so much turmoil and unrest.'' -
Url.: http://tinyurl.com/gj4x5

* WHO RULES AMERICA - AND OUR LIVES? - Please read the following
article with an open mind, and if you don't believe it you can verify
it for yourself, as the author suggests. Keep in mind the intense and
non-stop psychological conditioning already for ages being used by
major media - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/evpf

* 6 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED? - ANOTHER HOLOCAUST - THIS IS ONE OF
MANY BY THE PNAC's CIA: John Stockwell, former CIA Station Chief in
Angola in 1976, working for then Director of the CIA, George Bush.
said and wrote in 1986: ''How 6 million People Were killed in CIA
secret wars against Third World countries.'' - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/gpcg

* "Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we
Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets
and lynched." - George Bush Senior speaking in an interview with
Sarah McClendon in December 1992.

* How The Bush Family Made Its Fortune From The Nazis - THE DUTCH
CONNECTION - by John Loftus, a former U.S. Department of Justice Nazi
War Crimes prosecutor, the President of the Florida Holocaust Museum
and the highly respected author of numerous books on the CIA-Nazi
connection including The Belarus Secret and The Secret War Against the
Jews, both of which have extensive material on the
Bush-Rockefeller-Nazi connection. - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/omczx -

* GLOBAL PREDATORS - ŒFRAUDS-R-US¹ - The Bush Family Saga - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/elarx

* The 9/11 drama was the 'trigger' used by the PNAC Group, killing
Americans to further their inhuman goals: Anybody who after seeing this
video - '9/11 revisited' - still believes the version from the 'PNAC
pack' - the Washington cabal - is beyond all professional help - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/jn5jx

* SCHOLARS FOR 9/11 TRUTH - American and other scientists, diplomats,
researchers etc.: What happened on 9/11? - What is happening to our
world? - How can we improve our situation? - Url.:
http://www.st911.org/

* The MAD COW MORNING NEWS is one of the absolutely best 9/11 sites on
Internet - by Daniel Hopsicker - Url.:
http://www.madcowprod.com/01042004.html

* PSYOPS: How to make anybody say and see anything - William M. Arkin's
"The U.S. Military Online" - When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing -
Special to the Washington Post - already on Feb. 1, 1999 -
Url.:http://tinyurl.com/hvnrq

* FOX: Video 49 min. - The example how viewers are brainwashed and
'outfoxed' - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/b2zzl

* All the more reason to read the FIGHTIN' COCK FLYER - Url.:
http://fightincockflyer.blogspot.com/

* THE ONLY SOLUTION? - Help all the troops - of whatever nationality -
to come back from abroad! - AND WITH ALL THEIR WEAPONS, WHICH WE ARE
FORCED TO PAY FOR BY TAXES - [http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm] -
We need them badly at home in many countries to fight with us against
our so called 'governments' and their malignant managers - Url.:
http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/

The Dutch author this far has lived and worked abroad for more than 4
decades for international media - when they still knew what honest
journalism was - as an independent foreign correspondent. Of which 10
years - also during Gulf War I - in the 'Arab World' and the Middle
East. Seeing worldwide that every bullet and every bomb breeds more
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Scholars Call Moussaoui Trial a "Charade;"
See Constitutional Rights
on Trial; Describe Accused as Patsy

April 22, 2006
prweb
Fri Apr 21, 9:16 AM ET

Washington, DC (PRWEB) April 22, 2006 -- The trial holding Zacarias
Moussaoui responsible for the horrors of 9/11 has all the marks of a
political charade, according to Scholars for 9/11 Truth, a society of
experts devoted to exposing falsehoods and establishing truths about
the events of that day. "Even the most basic elements of due process
have been violated," according to James H. Fetzer, its founder and
co-chair, "by failing to prove that the accused had anything to do with
9/11. What we are seeing here tends to substantiate Charlie Sheen's
allegations."

Fetzer insists there has been a clever ruse to confuse the jury by
using a confession to one plot as though it were evidence of complicity
in another. As The New York Times (April 27, 2005) reported, Moussaoui
"confessed" to having been involved in a plot to fly a plane into the
White House to free Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, who is serving a life
sentence for terrorist acts. He denied that he was part of the 9/11
attacks in New York City and Washington, D.C.

A Judicial "Shell Game"

The mentally instable Moussaoui has now "confessed" that he and
shoe-bomber Richard Reid were going to hijack a fifth aircraft and fly
it into the White House, which was not the plot of which he was
convicted. The Scholars believe government prosecutors have been
playing a deceptive "shell game" by tying him to 9/11. Even the FBI has
expressed doubts about Moussaoui's new version of events, since Reid
left a will naming Moussaoui as his beneficiary, which was very odd if
they were going to participate in a suicide mission together.

The government claims Moussaoui should be put to death for failing to
report everything he knew about 9/11, which it claims would have saved
lives. "This is blatantly unconstitutional," says 9/11 Truth Scholar
Webster Tarpley. "Under the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution,
nobody can be prosecuted for a failure to incriminate themselves.'"

"This entire trial has been a farce," says Fetzer, a professor of
philosophy at the University of Minnesota. "Government prosecutors have
contaminated witnesses, elicited testimony they cannot corroborate, and
-- according to multiple reports -- even forced Moussaoui to wear a
'stun belt'. 50,000 volts should be enough to keep anyone from straying
from the script," he said. "It is very difficult to imagine how
testimony taken under duress is admissible."

The 9/11 Truth Movement

The fast-growing, over 200-member strong society is only the tip of an
iceberg of a "9/11 Truth" movement which has produced dozens of books
and scores of websites assailing the official version of 9/11.
According to those involved, it's an uphill battle. John Leonard, a
member of S9/11T and the publisher of several books on 9/11, including
one by Webster Tarpley, insists that at least one basic element of the
"9/11 Truth" idea can be conveyed in less than a minute, but he finds
most Americans have psychological barriers to it.

"When we hit a fact that contradicts our world view, we usually pause,
rationalize it and keep going. But sometimes we stumble onto something
and want to dig deeper. That's where 9/11 researchers get started."
Psychologists describe the resistance to ideas that threaten our sense
of security as "cognitive dissonance", which can occur when, for
example, a mother discovers evidence her husband has been molesting
their daughter.

To demonstrate his position, Leonard asks people to consider three
points:

First, as the video-clip on this page (wtc7.gif) reveals, when WTC-7,
a 47-story building that was not hit by any airplane, collapsed at 5:20
PM on 9/11, it displayed all of the signs of a controlled demolition,
including sudden and complete collapse at virtually the rate of free
fall into its own footprint, precisely as old casinos and hotels are
brought down in Las Vegas.

Second, the collapse of WTC-7 is not even mentioned in The 9/11
Commission Report and has yet to be explained by the government. When
Steven Jones, professor of physics at BYU, wanted the video of the
collapse played on Tucker Carson's MSNBC program, only a single frame
was shown, which is typical of the attention it has drawn from the
national media.

Third, for WTC-7 to be brought down by controlled demolition implies
the existence of previously positioned explosives. That raises the
possibility there were previously positioned explosives in WTC-1 and
WTC-2 as well. Jones' own physics research, archived on the Scholar's
web site at st911.org, suggests that all three must have been brought
down by controlled demolition.

Appeals to Fabricated Evidence

The most stunning example of government mendacity in the Moussaoui
trial, Fetzer explains, came with the inflammatory recordings,
allegedly the last moments of Flight 93, which went down in
Pennsylvania. "Not only should they not have been admitted into
evidence," he said, "but Allen Green has noted that much of the
conversation is from the passenger cabin -- which would not have been
picked up in by the cockpit voice recorder, even through an open door.
Yet the cockpit door was supposed to be closed before it was finally
broken open using a drink cart."

Another blunder was noted by a Muslim member of S9/11T. The last words
of the "hijackers" on the tape are "Allah is great! (Allahu akbar!").
Muhammad Columbo says, "The last words of a Muslim cannot be these!
They are used in the call to prayer, or in an attack at war. On the
moment of death, a Muslim must confirm that "There is but one God,
Allah, and that Mohammed is his prophet!" The government's own evidence
proves either the tapes or the Muslims are fake.

Fetzer has also been struck by the use of phrases that appear to come
from Hollywood scripts. "It's not enough that he talks about "making
his day" as though he were a fan of Dirty Harry, but he also parodies
"Born in the USA" with his rendition of "Burn in the USA" and has
described his trial as a 'cyberlynching'. We are so used to movies that
we may not notice this is supposed to be real life, where this trial
appears to be following a script.

Patsies and Moles

Another perception of the events taking place in Alexandria, VA, comes
from Webster Tarpley. "Moussaoui represents the classic case of the
patsy - part double agent consciously working for the government, part
psychotic, part fanatic, part dupe," Tarpley observes. "His lawyers
tried to save him by suggesting he is a delusional paranoid
schizophrenic, and this may be accurate." (See
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2006/04/17/
AR2006041700637.html.)

"Like shoe bomber Richard Reid, Moussaoui is a product of Finsbury
mosque in London, long notorious as a British intelligence recruiting
center for expendable patsies...." In his book, "9/11: Synthetic
Terror," Tarpley explains that, "Again and again, terrorist groups with
US-UK backing have intervened against progressive nationalists in the
Arab world, in favor of fundamentalists."

Of "false-flag" operations (a term from sailing ship days, when a war
could be begun by raising an enemy flag and attacking one's own side),
Tarpley observes, "The patsies ultimately have three vital functions.
The first is that they have to be noticed. They must attract lots and
lots of attention. They may issue raving statements." That description
does seem to fit Moussaoui.

Secondly, they must stay out of jail, not to carry out the terrorist
attack -- that is a job for the professionals -- but only to be blamed
for it. Keeping them out of jail is a job for "the moles."

After the terror act is complete, the moles turn on the patsies and
destroy them. In this case, the situation may be more complex, since
Moussaoui has expressed the belief that he is going to be pardoned by
President Bush, possibly in exchange for Americans captured in the war
in Iraq.

Painwashing and Propaganda

On March 21, 2006, CBS reported the prosecutors' allegation that
Moussaoui's lies to FBI agent Harry Samit had prevented the FBI from
thwarting or at least minimizing the 9/11 attacks. Samit himself,
however, in one of the most embarrassing twists of the trial with
regard to the government's case, testified that he had already "warned
higher-ups and others in the government at least 70 times that
Moussaoui was a terrorist."

This nullifies the entire prosecution, Fetzer observes. "Ignoring five
or six reports of this kind might reflect incompetence. Twenty or
thirty, criminal neglect. But ignoring 70 reports has to be a matter of
deliberate policy." Samit's testimony proves that, even if Moussaoui
had come forward to incriminate himself in a plot in which he was not
involved, it would not have helped. "Which means," Fetzer adds, "that
this trial is simply an exercise in propaganda."

Jerry Mazza, Online Journal (April 14, 2006), has described the trial
as a "painwashing," which he defines as repeating the same painful
stories over and over again until the audience's resistance to
questioning their authenticity is overcome. Leonard adds, "9/11 was
what Pavlov called 'traumatic conditioning,' a way of reversing your
normal characteristics by deep shock."

"If our findings are correct," Fetzer observed, "then the American
government has been using acts of violence to instill fear into the
American people in order to manipulate us for political purposes. That,
however, is the definition of 'terrorism'; which means that the
American government has been practicing terrorism on the American
people. That may be difficult for many Americans to accept, but the
evidence is clear and compelling. Charlie Sheen was right!"

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From: Henri the Celt <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Date: April 21, 2006 9:12:10 PM EST
To: AAAHenri <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Subject: Fw: [UrukNet] - [Daily Information from Occupied Iraq] -
[newsletter 20 Apr 2006]

uruknet.info

America’s Terror-war in Iraq
Mike Whitney

... The Iraqi resistance has never abandoned their original strategy to
attack American troops, Iraqi security forces, and oil pipelines. Why
would they… their strategy is succeeding? The idea that they suddenly
shifted directions from guerilla warfare to sectarian violence
following the demolition of the Golden-domed mosque is pure myth
intended to persuade the American public that the uptick in violence is
not created by the occupation but by deep-seated ethnic and reli! gious
divisions. That’s not what is happening. What’s really taking place is
that American armed and trained death squads are attacking Sunnis and
Shiite alike to facilitate a break-up of Iraq which Pentagon planners
and right wing ideologues have sought from the very beginning. The
media, of course, is assisting in the disinformation campaign by
dumping the Zarqawi fantasy and spinning an entirely new storyline
centered on the destruction of the golden-domed mosque. Readers should
be sensitive to the reiteration of this theme in nearly every article
appearing in the New York Times and the Washington Post; the headwaters
of the American propaganda system...

Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=22729

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Iraqi Women Under Siege: Read Report!
CODEPINK Women for Peace

The Iraqi women who toured the United States last month told us that
they were amazed by how misinformed many Americans were about the lives
of Iraqi women. Most Americans thought that before the overthrow of
Saddam Hussein, Iraqi women were sitting at home oppressed, heavily
veiled and secluded, and that thanks to the US invasion, they are now
liberated. This is what the Bush administration would like us to
believe, but after listening to our Iraqi f! riends many people now
know better. To further shed light on the true status of Iraqi women,
CODEPINK has released an in-depth report Iraqi Women Under Siege (...)
The report shows that from 1958 to the 1990s, Iraq provided more rights
and freedoms for women and girls than most of its neighbors (...) After
the occupation, with the exception of women in Iraqi Kurdistan, women’s
daily lives have been reduced to a mere struggle for survival...

Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=22746

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From: "paul illich" <paul_illich@hotmail.com>
Date: April 22, 2006 7:29:09 AM EST
To: bluegreenearth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bluegreenearth] fwd: July 15th -- Direct Action for Climate
Justice
Reply-To: bluegreenearth@yahoogroups.com

July 15th -- Direct Action for Climate Justice
Stand in Solidarity Against G8 Policies
Target Fossil Fuel Industries in Your Town or Bioregion

19 of the 20 hottest years on record have occurred
since 1980. Islands in the South Pacific are already
evacuating due to rising sea levels. Storms and
hurricanes are growing more severe. Polar bears are
drowning as their icy habitat breaks apart and drifts
out to sea. Greenland is melting. Everyday we spew
more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere; everyday we
are one step closer to what scientists refer to as “the
tipping point.”

On July 15th, the G8 will convene in St. Petersburg,
Russia to plot their continued commodification and
domination of the planet, this time under the
euphemistic banner of “Energy Security.” A leaked G8
communique calls for trillions of dollars in new
investments in oil, gas and coal production worldwide,
as well as wide-scale development of nuclear energy.
With the potential for runaway climate change looming
on the not-so-distant horizon, such neoliberal
business-as-usual poses a direct threat to the continuation
of life on Earth as we know it. Resistance is self
defense.

July 15th will be an International Day of Action
Against Climate Change. As government ministers
promise more tax dollars to the industries destroying
our planet and our future, we will take action to shut
them down. This is a call for autonomous, decentralized
actions appropriate for your town, city, or bioregion.
Use this international day of action to support local
struggles against oil refineries, gas pipelines, strip
mines and coal-fired power plants. Host teach-ins to
spread sustainable living skills. Find a weak point in
the infrastructure of resource exploitation and throw a
literal or symbolic wrench in the works. Visit your
local polluters and give ‘em hell!

For more info, stay tuned to www.reclaimthecommons.net.

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control
By James Brooks
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On March 15, former World Bank president and current Quartet Middle East
envoy James Wolfensohn warned Congress that unless stepped up Western
aid was
delivered to the Palestinian people, cutting off funds to the
Palestinian
Authority would result in “chaos in the streets.”

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Desert rats leave the sinking ship: Why Rumsfeld should not resign
By Greg Palast
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Well, here they come: the wannabe Rommels, the gaggle of generals,
safely
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The American people hold the fate of the world
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The American people must stop the coming attack upon Iran. Aside from
the
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Bush and Cheney directed Wilson-Plame hit squad
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In retrospect, the effective date for U.S. imperialists to destabilize
Iraq
and attack it at an opportune moment began on August 20, 1988. On that
date,
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The triumvirate that muffles the moderate Muslims
By Abukar Arman
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The charges have been loud and vociferous, and sometimes even
outlandish.
“There is no such thing as moderate Muslims;” “they are dangerous
sleeper
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themselves a
ticking bomb;” and my personal favorite, “they have the sudden Jihadist
syndrome,” or perhaps the capacity to combust, as in spontaneous human
combustion.

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The not-so-secret foreign energy source
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President Bush, several years after most Americans, has decided the
nation
can't be dependent upon foreign energy sources.

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Fosamax does more harm than good
By Evelyn Pringle
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The osteoporosis drug Fosamax has been on the market for a little over
10
years now. Drug maker Merck promoted it heavily by selling women the
fear of
a disabling hip fracture and the necessity of regular bone-density
tests.
Merck's initial TV advertising campaign featured a slim woman in her
mid-40s,
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group.

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State Department memo: '16 words' were false
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Sixteen days before President Bush's January 28, 2003, State of the
Union
address, in which he said that the US learned from British intelligence
that
Iraq had attempted to acquire uranium from Africa -- an explosive claim
that
helped pave the way to war -- the State Department told the CIA that the
intelligence the uranium claims were based upon were forgeries,
according to
a newly declassified State Department memo.

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From nine years in high school to the Texas Air National Guard
By Margie Burns
Online Journal Contributing Writer

George W. Bush's own “Statement of Personal History” for the Air Force,
dated
28 May 1968, lists his educational history and his job history. He was
required to list both in full, along with all other life information,
while
signing up for pilot training and duty so he could stand a better
chance of
surviving (avoiding) Vietnam.

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Palestine cries out for help
By Linda S. Heard
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Israeli policy makers and their allies, the US and the EU, are
determined to
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Double
Standards” touts its moral high ground even while it bullies, bombs and
blackmails countries that refuse to mold themselves in its image.

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Iraq: Greatest strategic disaster In US history
By Evelyn Pringle
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Its time to withdraw our troops from a war that should never have been
waged.
There never was any real justification for sending our young men and
women to
die in Iraq, and there is even less justification to keep them there
now.

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_711.shtml

Realities intertwined with undocumented immigration
By Ben Tanosborn
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H. L. Mencken said, “Religion, like poetry, is simply a concerted
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have
easily added politics. Of course, realities need to stand on their own
merits, be themselves documented.

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The billion dollar Baghdad embassy
By Leigh Saavedra
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That's the estimate, though only half of it has been appropriated so
far, a
billion dollars to build a new embassy in Iraq. It will be the largest
on the
globe, the largest the world has ever seen, the size of Vatican City.

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_718.shtml

Junk mail and religious propaganda: What happened to freedom from
religion?
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When I opened my mailbox the other day, along with the rest of the junk
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Forget the Middle East: North America harbors the world's most dangerous
terrorists
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without
dwelling on potential doomsday scenarios.

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Politics of the schoolyard
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Whatever happened to good old fashioned diplomacy? If you listen to the
rhetoric of some world leaders today, you can almost imagine them in
short
trousers exchanging insults over the ownership of a lollipop. Except in
this
not so brave New World Order there are people's lives and livelihoods at
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"Zarqawi Legend"
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Abu Musab Al Zarqawi has been presented both by the
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allegedly responsible for the massacres of Iraqi civilians.

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A case for the Palestinian government
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Responding to successive decisions made by the US, the European Union
and
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After locking out all media observers and declaring a Level 10 Homeland
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told the
Free Press that the ballots had been diverted to an unauthorized
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Maps
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Virginia is for Mogilevich
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This article follows up on the previous piece on Semion Mogilevich,
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Michael Ledeen's dream, Mohamad ElBaradei's nightmare
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From: "Graham Jukes" <grahamjukes@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: April 21, 2006 12:28:42 PM EST
Subject: And We Think We Are Free

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FPF-fwd.: Nolan K. Anderson - nkanders@bellsouth.net

And We Think We Are Free

By Nolan K. Anderson*

I have often asked myself why human beings have any rights at all. I
always come to the conclusion that human rights, human freedoms, and
human dignity have their deepest roots somewhere outside the
perceptible world. These values are as powerful as they are because,
under certain circumstances, people accept them without compulsion and
are willing to die for them. - Vaclav Havel

The following notice was nailed to the gate of the American
prisoner-of-war camp at Babenhausen/Darmstadt in 1946: "When you,
SS-man Willi Schulze, or you, Corporal Rudi Muller, stride out through
this gate, your steps will lead you to freedom. Behind you lie months
and years of slavish obedience, years of bloodshed, years in which
human individuality suffered incredible humiliations, all of which was
caused by a criminal regime whose adherents will not escape due
punishment.

You yourself are not to blame. Deluded, you blindly followed the call
of a false doctrine. From now on your life in your family circle can
unfold free and undisturbed. You have been freed from accursed
military service, from guilt-laden German militarism. Never again will
a shrill command chase you across the barracks courts or drive you to
the battlefield. The ashes of your army ID card have mingled with
those of Buchenwald and Dachau.

The victorious United Nations which, through their great sacrifice,
have freed you and your descendants forever from military service, have
assumed the responsibility of protecting your freedom. But in exchange
for that great sacrifice you are duty-bound to make sure that never
again in your homeland will a desire for military service arise, that
never again will young Germans sacrifice the best years of their lives
to the hankerings of the Prussian nobility and their war-thirsty
general staff, but that they will, from now on, dedicate their strength
and their gifts to peaceful ends.
Signed: U.S. War Department"

HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED! HOW THINGS HAVE REMAINED THE SAME!

50 years after this sign was posted we no longer have a U.S. War
Department; we Americans now have a Department of Defense. However,
the sameness comes in considering that for we Americans "Behind us lie
months and years of slavish obedience, years of bloodshed, years in
which human individuality suffered incredible humiliations, all of
which was caused by a criminal regime whose adherents will not escape
due punishment".

The irony of the comparison to our own situation in America is easily
seen if one substitutes "Bush nobility" for "Prussian nobility" and is
further magnified by considering that those who suffered most (the
Jews) from the "criminal regime" in Nazi Germany are today most
responsible for engineering and fomenting the suffering and humiliation
of others (the Arabs and Palestinians) through Israeli aggression and
the same type suppression they (the Israelis) suffered under Hitler.
Israeli purchase and exploitation of the entire American political
system [1][2 <http://www.counterpunch.com/cook04152006.html> ] for the
purposes of financial aide and fighting their wars and then spying on
and working against their benefactors, the United States, [3] only adds
to the bitterness of the irony.

NOT OUR LEADERS WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE

In 1946, we Americans could see that the suffering of millions of
people and the death of 6 million jews was the fault of Nazi Germany's
leaders. Today we see that it is the fault of the Rudi Muller's and
the Willie Schulze's of our armed forces who are responsible for the
suffering of their prisoners. It is the Rudis and Willies who are
responsible for using "Willie Pete" for night- time "illumination" of
civilian areas and snipers to establish "free fire" zones in Falluja.
It is "they" who are responsible for the radioactive contamination of
an entire country and the radioactive contamination of themselves and
their comrades with depleted uranium. It is "they" who decided to drop
cluster bombs on civilian targets. It was not OUR LEADERS who were
responsible for the disappearance of 8.8 billion dollars in Iraqi
reconstruction funds or the 60 percent increase in world oil prices
since the invasion of a virtually powerless country. It was not OUR
LEADERS who invaded and destroyed a sovereign nation on false
pretenses. It is not OUR LEADERS who are responsible for the rendition
of real, imagined and purchased enemies using carefully camouflaged CIA
planes for their transport into the nether world of carefully hidden
CIA prisons. It is not OUR LEADERS who are preparing to invade Iran
because it wants to exercise the same freedom of choice OUR LEADERS
made for us when WE began the Manhattan Project.

How can we spoiled Americans have forefathers who fought a world war to
stop the slaughter of Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals and Communists and
then wind up with a president whose grandfather helped Hitler rise to
power and invested in the company which manufactured the Zyklon B Gas
used to kill these "undesirables"?

THIS IS A MYSTERY THAT SHOWS MANY THINGS ABOUT TURNING WHEELS AND THE
"SMALLNESS" OF THE WORLD.

This is a study of how we Americans changed from a proud people into a
herd of sheep that are only waiting for the order to "strip and step
into the showers. What happened to us? Why do we refuse to learn from
history? How similar are we to those who put their clothes and
valuables into neat piles before stepping into the "showers" of the
40's? What dichotomy allows our American military to act like Hitler's
SS troops and their parents to be so weak that they allow their
president to assume dictatorial powers without giving so much as a
whimper? How can we believe the 9/11 fantasy constructed for us by our
leaders (sic) and not believe we are presently living in a land with
little freedom and no privacy from government surveillance? How can we
listen to a demagogue like Alan Dershowitz extol the necessity of using
torture on our "enemies" while trumpeting the fact that he lost 40
family members in the holocaust?

To reach some answers, this article will go back to pre-war Nazi
Germany and examine the character and the way of life of 10 average
German citizens living in Germany who were caught up in or volunteered
for the Nazi movement and assumed roles in the movement as it
germinated under Hitler and grew to the ending described by the 1946
sign over the gate at Babenhausen/Darmstadt. This examination and
comparison will use as reference the 1955 Milton Meyer book, "They
Thought They Were Free".

THEN:

One of the more telling aspects of the transition from "normal" German
life into the world of German Nazism was the realization by "our" 10
German citizens that there were no clear-cut dramatic changes in German
life. Life changed imperceptibly as rules were gradually changed.
There was a widening gap between the government and the people.
People became very gradually accustomed to government by surprise, to
receiving decisions deliberated in secret, to believing that situations
were so complicated that "normal" people couldn't properly understand
or that the "situation" had to be handled in secret for "national
security reasons". Additionally, each step in the transformation of
German life was disguised to create the illusion of a common, grand
threat to all which could only be discovered, interpreted and handled
by the government.

In Germany, the government gradually increased the "required"
participation by the individual in the government's grand design(s).
There was required attendance at various government functions, forms
to be completed, lists to be compiled, etc, etc. There was no time to
think or reflect.

NOW:

In today's America, required participation in government- sponsored
activities is not the central aspect of family life. Our participation
in the life of the community and in the life of the family is a part of
the ever increasing speed of the "squirrel's exercise wheel". Today's
"soccer mom" is forced to run faster and faster just to remain "in
place".

The result of these phenomena (coupled with today's mind-destroying
television) is and was that for even those who were and are prone to
"think" for themselves, there is and was less and less time for such a
luxury. For those few who tend and tended to think about the basics of
life, there is also the government created diversions concerning
national enemies to distract from any serious effort in that direction.
Germans as well as Americans cannot be relied upon to tolerate
activities that outrage the normal sense of decency unless the selected
victims are stigmatized in advance. Governments can be relied upon to
perform this function and thereby mobilize its citizens toward the
government's desired goals. There are always red, yellow or purple
alert levels to keep us "in the mood" because uncertainty is a very
important part of the "plan".

THEN:

Then as now, if one accidentally finds one to whom he can express his
fears, he is labeled an "alarmist" or told that he "is seeing things"
or that "things aren't so bad". One tends to have fewer and fewer
friends in whom he can confide or converse freely. Besides, how does
one oppose? What is his reason? Opposition depends upon
circumstances.

"The few who tried to kill Hitler in '44, certainly . . . 'opposed' But
why? Some hated the dictatorship of National Socialism, some hated its
democracy, some were personally ambitious or jealous, some wanted the
Army to control the country, maybe some could escape punishment for
crimes only by a change of government. Some, I am sure, were pure and
noble. But they all acted . . .

Well, we had twenty thousand people . . . If you ask me how many did
something in secret opposition, something that meant great danger to
them, I would say, well, twenty. And how may did something like that
openly and from good motives alone? Maybe five, maybe two. That's the
way men are". [4]

Living in this environment of uncertainty it is impossible to notice
change.

Each step is so small and inconsequential that change goes unnoticed.

"When the Nazis attacked the Communists, he was a little uneasy, but,
after all, he was not a Communist, and so he did nothing, and then they
attacked the Socialists, and he was a little uneasier, but, still he
was not a Socialist, and he did nothing; and then the schools, the
press, the Jews, and so on, and he was always uneasier, but still he
did nothing. And then they attacked the Church, and he was a
Churchman, and he did something -- but then it was too late". [5]

THEN AND NOW:

Uncertainty is very important to the government. One doesn't see where
or exactly how to move. One keeps waiting for the one "great event"
that will trigger an appropriate response within oneself. But the "big
event" never comes. One doesn't want to talk or act alone. Standing
alone is not the only restraining factor; uncertainty is certainly an
important factor. Life is not a series of isolated events; life is
more a flow of continuing events and change comes very slowly. We no
longer see spying on Americans inside the United States as an important
event. It is just one of a series of outrages that seems no larger
than the hundreds that went before. One lie is no larger than the ones
that went before and brought us into a war of aggression aimed at
another country's resources.

Today we are outraged by the "news" that our government has been spying
on Americans in the United States for the last year or so. (The truth
is that spying on Americans is so commonplace to our government and has
been going on so long that "spying" hardly even rates a raised eyebrow
at this point).

Another factor common to Nazi Germany and our present American Way is
the small number of people required to change a whole country from a
free, prosperous land envied by all into one hated and despised by the
whole world - but not for our prosperity. How many people did it take
to change our country's goals and its perception by others: Bush,
Cheney, Wolfowitz, Feith, Libby, Luty, Perle, Rumsfeld, and a few
"movers and shakers in the business world. How many "do nothings" did
it take to allow this to happen? Answer. At last count, 535 members
of Congress and almost 290 million Americans. And how many Americans
have resisted our slide into totalitarianism and oblivion? At last
count there were two - Kevin Benderman and Cindy Sheehan. (Oh yes,
there have been more who have protested in marches and others who have
hurled "word bombs" from the safety of "our" computer keyboards at the
criminals guiding our descent into chaos and oblivion, but only these
two have taken their convictions "to the mat" or more correctly, "to
the jails and prisons" for all of us).

CONCLUSIONS:

And after the war - the Big One - WWII. What did the average German
feel? Was it remorse? shame? guilt? Yes, some Germans felt all three.
But within the majority was an underlying hypocrisy. Although some
confessed that their government's actions were terrible, few were able
to say that the actions of their government "violated the precepts of
Christian, civilized, lawful life"[6] and even fewer were able to say
that "I" knew it was wrong when it was happening and "I" knew it was
un-Christian, uncivilized and unlawful and "I" pretended it wasn't.

Does this sound vaguely familiar? Did Abu Ghraib sound un-Christian,
uncivilized and unlawful to we Americans or did it sound like a
sophomoric college prank? Did the second set of photos from Abu Ghraib,
which were finally released to the public after having been screened
and judged by our lawmakers to be so graphically horrific that the
American public should not be allowed to see them, goad we Americans
into finding who was REALLY responsible, impeaching the responsible
party and trying his underlings for war crimes? Did the description of
the destruction of Fallujah seem right to us?

Did we Americans try to pry open the CIA's rendition operation and
prosecute all the way to the gas chamber those responsible for
rendition and torture and black prisons? No, because we know that
those responsible would not be able to wage wars of any type -
aggression, defense or entertainment - in the future in our names. We
know that wars of aggression are "necessary" for our comfort and
survival.

We know that without the occasional, necessary war we won't be able to
take the family on the annual vacation in the safety of the family SUV.
Fighting the terrorists "over there" is better than having to drill
off our own pristine coasts and find our own oil.

Is this realization one of hypocrisy, self-delusion, convenience or
self-preservation?

Nolan K. Anderson

References:

[1] www.wrmea.com/crchives'jun2003/0306036
<http://www.wrmea.com/crchives'jun2003/0306036>

[2] www.counterpunch.com/cook04152006.html
<http://www.counterpunch.com/cook04152006.html>

[3] www.counterpunch.org/husseini08302004.html
<http://www.counterpunch.org/husseini08302004.html>

[4] "They Thought They Were Free", page 93,

[5] page 169.

[6] page 184.

NOLAN K. ANDERSON is a retired engineer and a veteran of Korea who was
once a "conservative" until he found there was nothing left to conserve
and as a veteran hates to see a tour in Korea go to waste. (He may be
reached at nkanders@bellsouth.net).

FOREIGN PRESS FOUNDATION
http://forpressfound.blogspot.com/
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Message 16
From: "Mark S Bilk" mark@cosmicpenguin.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 0:44pm(PDT)
Subject: Jolly, Please Stop Angie's Censorship of the List -was: Reflections.

angiesept11 is Angie D'Urso of New York (see the whois record of
her domain angieon911.com, whose home page lists AngieSept11@yahoo.com
as the contact address). Angie D'Urso was pushing the lying
pro-Zionist propaganda of Jared Israel a couple of years ago.
The purpose of that propaganda was to cover up the role of the
government of the terrorist state of Israel in the 9-11 attacks.
Angie eagerly posted every new installment of Jared's pro-Zionist
lies, often multiple times, and refused to respond when people
explained to her why they were untrue. I wrote an article refuting
Jared Israel:

http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/JaredIsraelZionistPropaganda.html

Thus Angie has her own axe to grind on this subject, and she should
therefore not be censoring this list.

Furthermore, her ban against discussing on the list her censorship
_of_ the list is pure totalitarianism! ("We won't even be discussing
on this board the moderation of this board.) That is outrageous!

I certainly don't agree with the nonsense about "The Jews did 9/11".
I am Jewish myself (although not a believer in the religion).

But Eastman posts a lot of good information that is not antisemitic,
and therefore banning him completely from what has become the main
9-11 list is wrong.

Jolly, I request that you reinstate Eastman, and forbid Angie from
censoring and banning people based on her own proven pro-Zionist
bias. Maybe Eastman could be forbidden to post anything containing
the word "Jew" (or Jews, Jewish, etc.) on this list; it would force
him to think about what he's posting.

Mark

On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 03:29:53PM -0000, angiesept11 wrote:
>Dick Eastman has been banned from this group and will remain so as
>long as I have moderator status. Those wanting to read his posts can
>go to his own newsgroup. Do a search. We're back to 9/11 Truth
>Action here now, 24/7, and that's it. We won't even be discussing on
>this board the moderation of this board. We're going to stay on
>topic, and off-topic posts will be deleted and anyone who persists in
>posting off topic will be banned. It is absolutely disgusting that
>"the Jews did 9/11" and "jew talk" posts were ever on this board. Any
>posts agreeing or disagreeing with this post will similarly be
>deleted, because again, just to be clear, this board is about 911
>truth activism. That's it.
>
>--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Cait" <ansith@...> wrote:
>>
>> I second this, for several reasons of my own. First, there is a
>connection
>> between 9/11 and some, notice I said some, aspects of Zionism, Mossad,
>> Israel...and those connections must be discussed and explored as
>thoroughly
>> as any other aspect of 9/11. I do not believe that "The Jews did
>9/11!" nor
>> do I advocate that premise in any way.
>>
>> Dick Eastman is a fountain of information regarding 9/11 and current
>world
>> events, whether you agree with all of his personal opinions or not.
>>
>> In order to uncover and thus propogate the TRUTH about 9/11, we MUST
>delve
>> into those darker territories that many of us would prefer not to
>look at.
>> Whether it proves itself worthy or not in the end, at least it was
>> considered and debated. We cannot simply gloss over an issue because
>it is
>> uncomfortable.
>>
>> If we want to preserve the freedom of speech, it needs to begin here.
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From: Peter Vervoorn
>> Date: 04/22/06 08:31:42
>> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [911TruthAction] Reflections in the magic mirror
>>
>> I am not convinced it was a good idea to ban Dick Eastman for failing to
>> distinguish clearly between Judaism and Zionism. The root of the
>arrogance
>> of Zionism – like all elitist belief, be it Islamic, Jewish, Christian,
>> Hindu, fascist German, or patriotic American – is the concept that
>one group
>> of people alone is superior; by virtue of their culture or belief; and
>> chosen by God or destiny to rule the world. Judaism is steeped in that
>> elitist concept. Zionism and its messianic equivalents are natural
>products
>> of the concept and thus there is not a clear delineation between them.
>>
>> Human conduct is largely governed by human attitudes, values and
>beliefs.
>> There is of course a battle of ideas to evolve the most appropriate
>systems
>> of thought to govern the continuity of human life on this planet and
>in all
>> probability, highly appropriate systems of belief will evolve out of our
>> crises; but the political and spiritual attitudes, values and
>beliefs that
>> have presided over the mass murder, military bungling and global
>chaos we
>> have seen in recent years can't hold together a logically consistent
>train
>> of thought, let alone govern a viable global community. It is not that
>> difficult to imagine the qualities necessary to bind the diversity
>of human
>> culture into a more or less cooperative whole. Exclusiveness and the
>> exclusion of even known allies seem inimical to the idea of social
>> cooperation on the face of it.
>>
>> I am not convinced that banning someone like Dick Eastman from this
>group
>> contributes significantly to the open debate necessary to evolve the
>most
>> appropriate thinking for the future, especially when it comes to the
>source
>> of the most inappropriate attitudes, values and beliefs. Dick can be a
>> little over the top on occasions, but he is fairly quick to admit
>his errors
>> where demonstrated and slow to yield where not.
>>

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Message 17
From: "kitty285" kitty285@charter.net
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 0:58pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

You got that right Scott,that's why i think they have discovered the truth
themselves,then they get real excited,and ready to do something,if you tell
them the awful unbelievable truth they clam up,ears close,and think you the
fool,lol im 70 years disabled woman,so they are polite,and don't walk away
from me,i keep talking in my sweet grandma voice. You know even if you make
them mad,and they do walk away,they will go home,and start doing
searches....Kitty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 2:02 AM
Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?

> Yeah, I have 2 Viet Nam Republican lifers that I know well enough to
> consider them friends. It has taken years, but they admit now that 9/11
was
> an inside job, they now hate bush, but still think Kerry would have been
> worse, so I ask, if it is that bad, is that why the right to keep and bear
> arms was written into the constitution? And they get an angry look, and
> glance away, though they are no longer angry at me for making them ask and
> answer the realities that they know happened.
>
> At the very least, I cost Bush 2 mega supporters. BTW, these 2 men now
tell
> me that the GOP has betrayed them too. See what happens if you get a brain
> to start working on it's own?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of kitty285
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 6:56 PM
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
> been?
>
> Would you believe i get remarks like i voted for Bush,because my Daddy
> always voted Republican,im talking about a man,my son in-law,says he don't
> want to know about anything,he will just vote for Rice,just sends me to
> tears.
> The old saying don't matter who you vote for,just get out there,and vote
is
> a bunch of crap !!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jolly Roger" <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
> To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
> been?
>
>
> > Kitty -- if someone's not receptive to the info move on -- some people
> simply don't want to know the truth. Try to convinve one or two people
close
> to you so you have someone to work with. And since the mainstream media
has
> already convinced them that you're crazy for suggesting such a thing, it
> might be wise to first discredit the MSM by exposing some of their other
> lies, and that might pave the way to having a more receptive 9-11 Truth
> audience.
> >
> > kitty285 <kitty285@charter.net> wrote: Kevin,im trying to work the
Bible
> Belt without my head blown off by a red
> > neck !!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Hammond" <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
> > To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
> > been?
> >
> >
> > > The internet is NOT ENOUGH. There are millions that do NOT have
access.
> > We are now getting down to the wire and must pull out ALL of the stops
and
> > LITTERALLY do EVERYTHING that we can to get this information OUT! The
> > alternative is a MASSIVE one world police state the likes of which NO
ONE
> > here can possibly fathom. PLEASE! everyone one this group that knows
> > ANYTHING about 9/11 and false flag terror MUST get out there and educate
> as
> > many people as possible! Otherwisw we are all up a creek without a
> paddle.
> > Go to the files section and download flyers and copy them and put them
> > EVERYWHERE! Burn copies of dvds and give them out. Do whatever you CAN
> to
> > get this information OUT!.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > > www.fightthenwo.org
> > >
> > > Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR:
> > url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape {
> > BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } I have always placed my
faith
> on
> > using the internet to expose to the world what they are and what they
have
> > done. The 9-11 frameup is a crime big enough that people can't brush it
> > aside. Our best hope is to show the world the ample evidence of the
> > false-flag attack -- and then enlarge that hole until their motives and
> > their other crimes are exposed. They cannot withstand public opinion.
> > >
> > > It is the only strategy I know -- and it is one I will keep
> ushing --
> > but I must admit, in five years I have not seen the people take what we
> > already know and use it to enlighten the world.
> > >
> > > Charlie Sheen is the best thing that has happened in five years.
May
> > circumstances favor his efforts.
> > >
> > > Dick Eastman
> > > Yakima, Washington
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Scott Peden
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:27 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth
> movement
> > been?
> > >
> > >
> > > So, you are saying that it is hopeless?
> > >
> > > Or do you proscribe a course of action as the internet ad our
freedoms
> > evaporate all at once?
> > >
> > > Or are you depending on the masses to rise up when their
entertainment
> > is taken away?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dick Eastman
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:10 AM
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth
movement
> > been?
> > >
> > > The plague will not be like the attack on the Pentagon -- it will be
> > beyond our ability to investigate.
> > >
> > > Next the nuclear bomb that will be blamed on Iraq -- because there
> will
> > be no invasion right away, they are setting Iran up for blame for the
> > false-flag nuclear attack -- the bomb that will be blamed on Iran will
not
> > leave evidence -- and the sudden loss of all freedoms by the
declaration
> > of martial law, including the shutdown of the internet, will not permit
> > investigations of any kind.
> > >
> > > Or perhaps they will let the internet continue so they can guage our
> > thinking and trace our connections -- more for them to lose by cutting
us
> > off.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Scott Legere
> > >
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:14 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth
> movement
> > been?
> > >
> > > It's amazing what a little awareness can do huh?
> > >
> > > mikemeyer1964 <mike.meyer@asm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > With all of the saber rattling with Iran, I had the following
> > > thought. I believe that the 911 Truth Movement has been successful in
> > > one key area. While we have not broken through to main stream
> > > America, I believe that we have created enough awareness about 911
> > > that the gov't has to really think twice before they can stage another
> > > False Flag event.
> > >
> > > The gov't has gotten away with covering up 911 to date, in part
> > > because they effectively created a cover story and destroyed the
> > > evidence very quickly. With enough people aware of what our gov't is
> > > capable of now, if they try another False Flag, there will be a lot of
> > > people recording every news station and outlet; video and still
> > > camera's everywhere, and a lot more people asking a lot more questions
> > > right after the event. It will be more difficult to cover up
> > > evidence. I was curious as to everyone's thoughts on what I would
> > > call a small success for the movement.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
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> > >
> > >
> > > Visit your group "911TruthAction" on the web.
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > 911TruthAction-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
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> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Saoirse go deo! www.fightthenwo.org
> > >
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> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > 911TruthAction-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his hands,
> hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken
> >
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Message 18
From: "Mark S Bilk" mark@cosmicpenguin.com
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:58pm(PDT)
Subject: Taking Aim Bulletin, April 22, 2006 - Ralph speaks in NYC today and

Forwarded message:

Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:18:15 -0700
Subject: Taking Aim Bulletin, April 22, 2006 - Ralph speaks in NYC today and tomorrow
From: Taking Aim <takingaim@pacbell.net>

Saturday, April 22, 7:00 pm
West Park Presbyterian Church
86th Street and Amsterdam Ave.
Doors open at 6:00 p.m.
"Treason at the Top: The Underlying Politics of 9/11"

In tying 9/11 to the methods that have defined class rule in the United
States for generations, Ralph Schoenman ties the attacks of 9/11 to the
unfolding architecture of the fascist state and examines what is to be done
to end the criminalization of state power in America.

Sunday, April 23, 6:30 pm sharp
St. Marks Church
2nd Ave. and 10th Street
"From Staging 9/11 to Creating the Next Pandemic: A System in Terminal
Decay"

Schoenman documents how the official drum beat regarding an inevitable
biological attack and pandemic with the United States is tied, like 9/11
itself, to longstanding plans of U.S. Rulers to deploy bacteriological and
viral agents as weapons of destruction and subjugation aimed at entire
populations, including our own.

***

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Message 19
From: "kitty285" kitty285@charter.net
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:21pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

And word my mouth really spreads fast !!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 1:57 AM
Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?

> Yeah kitty, you do the same things I do.
>
> Those that knew from the beginning that this was an inside job or really
> suspected it, have already done some research on their own, we are opening
> the thoughts and minds of those that just didn't notice the magicians bag
> of tricks.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of kitty285
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 6:45 PM
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
> been?
>
> Jolly Roger first i try to find out if they have turned on him,then i tell
> them what searches to do,if you tell the folks the truth straight off
there
> mouth falls open,and they clam up,you might say i plant a seed,enough to
get
> them searching,most think im crazy,i have to go slow,i let them find out
on
> there own,i give enough info for that person that i think he can deal with
> it,when they say where did you hear that,i say i found it on
Goggle,besides
> women are low life here,i dare not tell a man anything,his ego will make
him
> search,he will be the big shot to his buddies.
> Im from Ca. fourth generation,im her because my daughter is here.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jolly Roger" <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
> To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:06 AM
> Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
> been?
>
>
> > Kitty - Scott has an excellent approach here, but since I work with New
> Yorkers instead of rednecks, lately I've been saying things like "you're a
> naive idiot if you believe that bullshit," and other similarly offensive
> remarks. (maybe I'm becoming angry at the fools) Another new approach of
> mine is to mention in a list the Luiatania, the Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin,
> and Pearl harbor and say "They pull the same trick before every war, and
the
> American people are still dumb enough to keep falling for it."
> >
> > Scott Peden <scotpeden@cruzio.com> wrote:
> >
> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:*
{behavior:url(#default#VML);}
> w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
> Working rednecks huh? I have a pretty good handle on them.
> >
> > I don't tell them nuthin, I ask them things like, They really think
that
> we believe 3 buildings came down when only 2 planes hit ad the fire wasn't
> hot enough to do a brush burn! (just a statement) but if you can make a
> statement them say, they really think we are that stupid, don't they? That
> tactic works wonders. No one wants to be called stupid.
> >
> > When I get my rare cups of coffee the newspaper stand is right next to
> me, I take every advantage to say something like, did you see in this
paper
> that they said this BS? What do they take us for, idiots? And do the
> question statement thing, get my coffee and get the hell outta there,
cause
> they are now thinking. On a good day I can have all within earshot talking
> about this, and I don't mean whispering and I do this in the republican
sewn
> up area of my county. In under a year, even the Bush/Cheney people will
not
> attack 9/11 comments and many will say, someone must be threatening our
> pResident or he'd do something about this!
> >
> > I never say what they have to believe, I make a semi statement of
fact,
> and then ask questions. The moment you take a solid stance, they can shut
> you off and they can just deny anything you say, so I ask them for their
> opinion, or say "You believes this and that , don't you? After all, you
> don't look as stupid as those folks seem to think we voters are" That is,
> ask a question and make them right and note that they aren't idiots, even
of
> you may personally think they are.
> >
> > At the very least, it is progress and without that, we're all dead if
> we're lucky and if not luck, we'd indentured servitude in the work force
> prison of choice of the Multi nationals.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of kitty285
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 6:54 PM
> > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
> been?
> >
> > Kevin,im trying to work the Bible Belt without my head blown off by a
> red
> > neck !!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Hammond" <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
> > To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
> > been?
> >
> >
> > > The internet is NOT ENOUGH. There are millions that do NOT have
access.
> > We are now getting down to the wire and must pull out ALL of the stops
and
> > LITTERALLY do EVERYTHING that we can to get this information OUT! The
> > alternative is a MASSIVE one world police state the likes of which NO
ONE
> > here can possibly fathom. PLEASE! everyone one this group that knows
> > ANYTHING about 9/11 and false flag terror MUST get out there and educate
> as
> > many people as possible! Otherwisw we are all up a creek without a
> paddle.
> > Go to the files section and download flyers and copy them and put them
> > EVERYWHERE! Burn copies of dvds and give them out. Do whatever you CAN
> to
> > get this information OUT!.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > > www.fightthenwo.org
> > >
> > > Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR:
> > url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape {
> > BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } I have always placed my
faith
> on
> > using the internet to expose to the world what they are and what they
have
> > done. The 9-11 frameup is a crime big enough that people can't brush it
> > aside. Our best hope is to show the world the ample evidence of the
> > false-flag attack -- and then enlarge that hole until their motives and
> > their other crimes are exposed. They cannot withstand public opinion.
> > >
> > > It is the only strategy I know -- and it is one I will keep
> ushing --
> > but I must admit, in five years I have not seen the people take what we
> > already know and use it to enlighten the world.
> > >
> > > Charlie Sheen is the best thing that has happened in five years.
May
> > circumstances favor his efforts.
> > >
> > > Dick Eastman
> > > Yakima, Washington
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Scott Peden
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:27 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth
> movement
> > been?
> > >
> > >
> > > So, you are saying that it is hopeless?
> > >
> > > Or do you proscribe a course of action as the internet ad our
freedoms
> > evaporate all at once?
> > >
> > > Or are you depending on the masses to rise up when their
entertainment
> > is taken away?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dick Eastman
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:10 AM
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth
movement
> > been?
> > >
> > > The plague will not be like the attack on the Pentagon -- it will be
> > beyond our ability to investigate.
> > >
> > > Next the nuclear bomb that will be blamed on Iraq -- because there
> will
> > be no invasion right away, they are setting Iran up for blame for the
> > false-flag nuclear attack -- the bomb that will be blamed on Iran will
not
> > leave evidence -- and the sudden loss of all freedoms by the
declaration
> > of martial law, including the shutdown of the internet, will not permit
> > investigations of any kind.
> > >
> > > Or perhaps they will let the internet continue so they can guage our
> > thinking and trace our connections -- more for them to lose by cutting
us
> > off.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Scott Legere
> > >
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:14 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth
> movement
> > been?
> > >
> > > It's amazing what a little awareness can do huh?
> > >
> > > mikemeyer1964 <mike.meyer@asm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > With all of the saber rattling with Iran, I had the following
> > > thought. I believe that the 911 Truth Movement has been successful in
> > > one key area. While we have not broken through to main stream
> > > America, I believe that we have created enough awareness about 911
> > > that the gov't has to really think twice before they can stage another
> > > False Flag event.
> > >
> > > The gov't has gotten away with covering up 911 to date, in part
> > > because they effectively created a cover story and destroyed the
> > > evidence very quickly. With enough people aware of what our gov't is
> > > capable of now, if they try another False Flag, there will be a lot of
> > > people recording every news station and outlet; video and still
> > > camera's everywhere, and a lot more people asking a lot more questions
> > > right after the event. It will be more difficult to cover up
> > > evidence. I was curious as to everyone's thoughts on what I would
> > > call a small success for the movement.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Message 20
From: "kitty285" kitty285@charter.net
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:28pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Congoleezza Leaked ! -- Now we are going to See Fried Brown Rice

ROFLMAO !!!
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Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:21 AM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Congoleezza Leaked ! -- Now we are going to See
Fried Brown Rice!!!!!

> Congoleezza Leaked ! -- Now we are going to See Fried Brown Rice !!!!!
>
> Lawyer: Rice Leaked Defense Information - Forbes.com
>
> Address:http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/04/21/ap2688551.html
>
> Rice others, leaked info to lobbyist on trial
> Address:http://www.kcautv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4803091&nav=1kgl
>
> Lawyer: Rice allegedly leaked defense info | TheNewsTribune.com |
> Tacoma, WA
>
>
Address:http://www.thenewstribune.com/24hour/politics/story/3267586p-1206134
4c.html
>
> ( Pictured here the meanest woman in the world - Now just click on this
> and imagine bars in front of her face ! ) (;^))`````
>
> 03-01-06-condoleezza_rice.jpg
>
Address:http://newsfromrussia.com/images/newsline/03-01-06-condoleezza_rice.
jpg
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Message 21
From: "Joe Stokes" joestokes@sbcglobal.net
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:46pm(PDT)
Subject: A Call for Unity in the 9/11 Truth Community

http://www.crisisinamerica.org/

http://www.crisisinamerica.org/media/trailer.mov

We have heavily censored facts, lingering unanswered
questions and ultimately we have ourselves. I’m
betting on us. Our questions are much more powerful
than any fiction Hollywood could ever hope to dream
up. And our numbers are swelling like the rising tide.
[snip]

A Call for Unity in the 9/11 Truth Community

By: John J. Albanese -- www.crisisinamerica.org

Stand with me. Today’s editorial is a shameless plea
for unity and support. Time is short. Today’s
headlines relentlessly warn us of a pending nuclear
crisis, and the deafening drumbeats of war, and the
inevitable clash of civilizations that threatens to
devour us whole. Never mind that the rhetoric swirling
around the Iran crisis mimics the rhetoric that
swirled around the debacle in Iraq. Never mind that
the facts are being skewed once again. American
foreign policy appears to be executing a full-court
press to conflict and oblivion. And at the bottom of
this rubble-heap of American foreign policy lies the
all but forgotten truth and hidden history behind the
worst terrorist attacks in American history.

“We will never forget,” we all vowed after 9/11. And
we meant it. But sadly, 4 1⁄2 years after the
fact, 9/11 has already become commercialized,
dramatized and fictionalized by such Hollywood
confections as Universal Studio’s “United 93” and
Oliver Stone’s “World Trade Center.” And while we can
debate endlessly the degree of historical accuracy of
these films, Hollywood has, for all intents and
purposes, turned the tragedy of 9/11 into
entertainment for the masses, and has tread upon our
sacred vows.

But there are those among us who know that something
is seriously wrong. From the start, there are those
among us who were not satisfied to simply put their
trust in the ‘official story.’ There are those among
us who now feel vindicated in this position because we
have seen the lies and distortions and omissions. And
there are those among us now who are prepared to FIGHT
to preserve our right to continue to ask the relevant
question.

We must never acquiesce to the perceived social stigma
that comes with asking questions. The victims of this
crime demand it. We must never allow the simple act of
demanding accountability to be equated with
“conspiracy theory.” We must be relentless in
demanding answers, without falling into the snake pit
of competing factions of 9/11 Truth activists. Whether
you believe 9/11 was in inside job, or was simply
allowed to happen (on purpose), or you believe the WTC
was demolished with explosives, or the Pentagon was
not struck by a commercial jet, or even if you simply
believe that the 9/11 Commission Report is glaringly
inaccurate and incomplete – UNITE NOW! Put down your
theories and UNITE!

And so, it is towards this end that I humbly request
your support. As the Tribeca Film Festival gears up
next week in the virtual shadow of the missing WTC
complex, one sole independent film will attempt to
present the heavily censored facts and unanswered
questions of 9/11. Premiering at the prestigious
Tribeca Screening Room, founded by Robert DeNiro,
Everybody’s Gotta Learn Sometime will at long last
bring the 9/11 Truth movement into the spotlight, and
provide an important milestone in the public’s
ever-evolving understanding of the events of that
infamous day.

This film is not being screened solely for the benefit
of those in attendance. This event transcends the very
film itself in that it simply EXISTS. It is a
statement of defiance, and anger, and challenges the
mainstream media to pay attention to the growing
number of Americans who are now demanding that these
issues be allowed to see the light of day.

I ask you all to join me in supporting this project. I
ask all of you with websites and user groups and email
lists and regional Meetups to brazenly utilize every
resource available to you to help promote and sponsor
and petition the public to recognize this event. It is
time to declare victory, simply because this film
exists, and demonstrates that this issue will not be
silenced. Please join me in declaring the premier of
this film at the prestigious Tribeca Screening Room as
the most important film premier of 2006.

Towards this end, little blurbs about a 'film' showing
in NYC is just not going to cut it. We must either
choose to fight the 9/11 Truth fight to win - or
choose to continue to just nibble away at the edges,
perpetually marginalized and minimized and showing our
secret films in secret church basements at localized
events, without ever achieving the breakout media
event that could forever alter the public's
perceptions.

I believe the Tribeca Film Festival offers us that
opportunity.

The media is primed for a breakthrough on this issue.
We are now seeing the beginnings of celebrity
endorsements, as Charlie Sheen and Ed Asner have lent
their voices to the call. The public is also ready.
The polls do not lie. We have a date with destiny.
Just imagine the reverberations of headlines such as
these:

“Tribeca Film Festival Rocked by Independent 9/11
Film”

“Controversy and Passions Rise at Tribeca Film
Festival”

“New York Responds to Hollywood”

“The Hidden History of 9/11 Premiers in Tribeca”

“Independent Film on 9/11 Eclipses United 93”

The odds have always been stacked against us. We need
to make our own luck. United 93 has the backing of
millions of dollars, represented by professional PR
firms and advertising agencies and powerful corporate
interests.

What do we have?

Please join me in declaring victory at the 2006
Tribeca Film Festival.

For more information on this film, please visit:
www.crisisinamerica.org

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Message 22
From: "ranger116@webtv.net" ranger116@webtv.net
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:08pm(PDT)
Subject: 12 Years for Rice+Germans 9/11 inside job+Iraq bases+WhitesBack In !

12 Years for Rice+Germans 9/11 inside job+Iraq bases+WhitesBack In !

Rice Accused Of Leaking Sensitive Defense Info To Lobbyist... | The
Huffington Post

Address:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/04/22/rice-accused-of-leaking-s_n_19580.html

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Former German Defense Minister: 9/11 An Inside Job
Address:http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/200406vonbuelow.htm

Former German Minister Says Building 7 Used To Run 9/11 Attack
Address:http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/210406runattack.htm

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If the U.S. is ultimately leaving Iraq, why is the military building
'permanent' bases?

Address:http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm

Iraq Facilities - Maps
Address:http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/iraq-maps.htm

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Real immigration protest photos !
The Phoenix March - April 10 : AZ IMC
Address:http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2006/04/40375.php

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IMPEACH The President And The Vice-President NOW

OUR ALLIES ARE STUPEFIED, THERE ARE 1000 DAYS LEFT, HONESTY, INTEGRITY
AND TRUST REALLY DO MATTER
As Americans, we are very proud of our heritage, but I wonder what
future generations will think if we sit idly by and do nothing when we
actually do know the truth. The United States of America is plagued with
continuous mission creep and increasing cost with no retribution in
sight. Iraq is presently sitting on top of two trillion gallons of
unrefined crude, and could have paid for their own liberation. Three
years ago, the Administration had that specific proposal before it and
failed to pursue it because it was a Democratic idea. This
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trillion dollars in debt, mismanagement, you bet.
But most of all we have been LIED to about the most weighty
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BBC NEWS | World | Africa |
Zimbabwe President Mugabe 'asks White farmers to return'

The Black government of Zimbabwe has requested White farmers that it
allowed massive gangs of Blacks to run off their farms and take over
the land, To come back now that it has been shown that the Blacks can
not make the farms produce crops do to their lack of ability to farm !
But would You have expected people who have been "Hunter gatherers for
a million years to be able to farm ?"

It Ain't Racist When It Is The TRUTH !! BABY !

Address:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4932060.stm

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Message 23
From: "kitty285" kitty285@charter.net
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:44pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Reflections in the magic mirror

Angela i agree with you,though our group is not huge,it reflects the
thoughts of many of the world,if we can not get along,and find piece how do
we expect the rest of the world to,tolerance is needed everywhere,shall we
start here ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "angela mvbride" <fourddream@yahoo.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Reflections in the magic mirror

> Bit hasty indeed, might have waited for his reaction first, he might of
said oeps hey you're right, hadn't quite looked at it like that before, or
that he wasn't quite convinced of the moderator's view and wished to discuss
it further, would that be so wrong? As long as he's not churning out pure
nonsense and hatred? We should as TRUTH movement not be afraid to discuss
these points and of course with the purpose of figuring it out.
> I think a warning was more fitting here hey.
> The very same issues that have devided society, that we try to expose,
threaten to tear the truth movement apart too. Weren't we trying to cut
through the finger pointing game? (that's for Dick) and weren't we trying to
break down taboos that hold the whole thing in place. Taboos that forbid us
to talk about "certain things" in "certain ways". We can't adopt their taboo
psychology, we have to be open to all REASONABLE arguments as long as we
can't disprove them.
> Those who are completely "through the veil" so to speak, as in seeing
the whole finger pointing game for what it is can find it irritating to find
the mentally present still in many in this movement, now as it grows but we
are human beings and all at different stages in developing our knowledge of
this mind control matrix which becomes more obvious every day,
> I assume that people who join this movement after finding out the truth
about 911 are all basically good people prepared to stand up and be counted
for truth. That most then begin that journey behind the 9 11 veil bringing
all their previous preconceptions with them is only natural but I reckon
that after a while they start to get the big picture in their own time.
> It's no big deal, but if we start banning them when they "speak out of
turn" then we're on the very slippery slide that goes all the way down to
the reptile mentality we attempt to combat.
> A..
> A.
>
> Peter Vervoorn <peter04@problemsolving.com.au> wrote:
> I am not convinced it was a good idea to ban Dick Eastman
for failing to distinguish clearly between Judaism and Zionism. The root of
the arrogance of Zionism - like all elitist belief, be it Islamic, Jewish,
Christian, Hindu, fascist German, or patriotic American - is the concept
that one group of people alone is superior; by virtue of their culture or
belief; and chosen by God or destiny to rule the world. Judaism is steeped
in that elitist concept. Zionism and its messianic equivalents are natural
products of the concept and thus there is not a clear delineation between
them.
>
> Human conduct is largely governed by human attitudes, values and
beliefs. There is of course a battle of ideas to evolve the most appropriate
systems of thought to govern the continuity of human life on this planet and
in all probability, highly appropriate systems of belief will evolve out of
our crises; but the political and spiritual attitudes, values and beliefs
that have presided over the mass murder, military bungling and global chaos
we have seen in recent years can't hold together a logically consistent
train of thought, let alone govern a viable global community. It is not that
difficult to imagine the qualities necessary to bind the diversity of human
culture into a more or less cooperative whole. Exclusiveness and the
exclusion of even known allies seem inimical to the idea of social
cooperation on the face of it.
>
> I am not convinced that banning someone like Dick Eastman from this
group contributes significantly to the open debate necessary to evolve the
most appropriate thinking for the future, especially when it comes to the
source of the most inappropriate attitudes, values and beliefs. Dick can be
a little over the top on occasions, but he is fairly quick to admit his
errors where demonstrated and slow to yield where not.
>
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Message 24
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:22pm(PDT)
Subject: Welcome to 911 TruthAction : Request to join 911TruthAction approve

I thank the moderators for their reconsideration of my list membership.

It was not a comfortable feeling to be cut off from the one list where you
interact with people who share in the knowledge that 9-11 was a false-flag
black-op. I did not realize the extent to which being in communication with
other informed people enables one to keep on keeping on.

I have not heeded the good advice of people of good will and it led to
exactly the kind of trouble that they warned me of. (See below.)

I ask all of you who are willing to entertain the possibility of Zionist
and Israeli organizations guilt in the 9-11 false-flag attacks to subscribe
to 911ZionistOP where evidence will be presented and discussed free of
Zionist gatekeeping. I promise that "Zionist organizations" (e.g., Mossad,
the informal organization of the Neocons) and specific individuals will be
investigated and discussed -- but not the loaded and flaming catagory of
"the Jews" -- finally learning the lesson that so many have tried to
explain to me over the last several months.

911ZionistOp-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Here is my letter to Mark S. Bilk upon receiving the news from him that the
ban of me at 911TrutAction might be lifted:

Hi Dick,

I sent the message below to 911TruthAction on your behalf.
Angie removed me from the list without telling me -- in fact
banned me -- and deleted the message from the list web archive.

Another moderator subsequently reinstated me, and Angie is
no longer a moderator.

You may want to try rejoining the list. But I suggest you follow
my recommendation below, and don't post anything containing the
words Jew, Jews, Jewish, etc. There is no plot by Jews in general
to do anything. They support Israel only because they've been
lied to, just like most Americans.

And why did you post a message of your admiration for Hitler?
Did you even read the horrible things he was being praised for
in that article? Sometimes I wonder if you've gone completely
around the bend.

Mark
------------------

reply:

Thank you Mark.

I did not post the message with admiration for Hitler -- that message
appeared right after mine and then Angie banned both me and
the unknown sender of the Hitler piece. I think I it was set up,
to associate me with a Hitler lover -- so she could ban us
together as if we were two of a kind. I suspect the Hitler
piece was posted by Angie herself or a confederate. It seems
to have worked -- you thought I wrote it.

I've discovered that as Zionists like Razl Dazl call me names
I get angry and less discriminating in my labeling.
I am not the cool mature always-fair-minded person
that someone doing this 911-truth-stuff should be --
as you very well know.

You know Mark, it is people like you who will
change minds, not me. I wish you would go on
the offensive more often.

Needless to say this letter of yours was very
very good news. I was completely knocked
down by Angie getting away with taking over
"the gate" at 911TruthAction as she did
-- To be cut off from those people (the
convinced 9/11 truth people) left me feeling
pretty damn isolated.

I'll watch where I use the "J" word -- but
as I said when I am up against guys who
seek to provoke me -- I do get angry
and wreckless -- and use the more emotionally
loaded word rather than the appropriate words
(Zionist, Neocon, Mossad etc)

Dick

From: Mark S Bilk <mark@cosmicpenguin.com>
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060422191347.GA5523@linux>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:13:47 -0700
Subject: [911TruthAction] Jolly, Please Stop Angie's Censorship of the
List -was: Reflections...

http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/JaredIsraelZionistPropaganda.html

Thus Angie has her own axe to grind on this subject, and she should
therefore not be censoring this list.

I certainly don't agree with the nonsense about "The Jews did 9/11".
I am Jewish myself (although not a believer in the religion).

But Eastman posts a lot of good information that is not antisemitic,
and therefore banning him completely from what has become the main
9-11 list is wrong.

Mark

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Zionist Gatekeepers -- Do they really exist?

Keeping It Quiet: The Israel Lobby's Crushing of Dissent
by Charley Reese
April 1, 2006
http://www.antiwar.com/reese/?articleid=8791

The first weapon of choice for the Israeli lobby when someone with
prestige publishes a soundly researched paper or book critical of
Israel or its powerful lobby is silence. If it's a book, it rarely
gets reviewed; its author doesn't get interviewed. If it's a paper,
there are no news stories in the big corporate press, no interviews
with the authors, no television appearances.

For the average American who depends on the press to tell him what's
going on, it's as if the criticism never existed. The second weapon
is, of course, to launch vicious personal attacks.

Both methods are being used against an astounding paper titled "The
Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy." It was written by two renowned
academics, John J. Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and
Stephen M. Walt of the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard
University.

So far as I've been able to determine with the help of Google, while
the paper and talk about it are all over the Internet, they are
missing from the big corporate press as of this writing. It was
published in the London Review of Books, and you can read it or
download an edited version at: www.lrb.co.uk

There was one news story about it in the Christian Science Monitor and
an attack on it by David Gergen in U.S. News & World Report. Gergen is
editor at large of the magazine, which is owned by an ardent Zionist,
Mortimer Zuckerman. Gergen is a professional spinmeister who has
always served the people who have the butter for his bread.

The essence of the paper, which is thoroughly footnoted, is that
Israel's lobby has so skewed American foreign policy in the Middle
East that the U.S. places the security of Israel ahead of security for
the United States.

"This situation has no equal in American history," the authors state.

The Anti-Defamation League was quoted in a Jewish publication as
saying that if the paper gained the attention of the mainstream media,
then a "more vigorous attack" would be launched. So far, it has not,
though in the Christian Science Monitor story one of the attack dogs
of the Israel lobby branded these two esteemed academics from
prestigious universities as "incompetents."

This paper isn't the first to criticize the Israeli lobby. There have
been lots of papers and books written by distinguished individuals,
none of which you've probably ever heard of. They Dare to Speak Out,
by former Rep. Paul Findley, and The Passionate Attachment, by George
W. Ball, one of America's most distinguished diplomats, are two that
come to mind. It was the late Sen. William J. Fulbright who first
called Congress "Israeli-occupied territory."

What the authors of the current paper hope to do is start a sensible
public debate about the Israeli lobby and America's policy in the
Middle East. Of course, avoiding an honest debate is one of the
primary objectives of the lobby. That's why it uses silence and, if
that doesn't work, vicious personal attacks. It has certainly
buffaloed Congress and most of America's news media.

Another author given the silent treatment as well as vicious personal
attacks is Norman Finkelstein, a professor at DePaul University. He's
written three outstanding books you've probably not heard of: The
Holocaust Industry, Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine
Conflict, and his latest, which got not a line of review, Beyond
Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History.
Finkelstein, by the way, is Jewish and the son of Holocaust survivors.

This is a most serious issue and deserves an honest public debate.
Whether you agree with any of the above authors and academics, you
should read what they have to say and not be deterred by cheap ad
hominem attacks.

You've heard the same message from me, of course, but I'm only a
country boy turned journalist with no fancy degrees. If you're
impressed with credentials, Finkelstein, Findley, Walt, Mearsheimer
and Ball have them up to their armpits.

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Message 25
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:01pm(PDT)
Subject: Dave Walsh: The very rich in America: "The kind of money you cannot

From: Graham Jukes

April 22, 2006

A type of aristocracy rules America, which has more than one feature
in common with the ancien régime that presided over pre-revolutionary
France. This vast accumulation of wealth at one pole of society is
incompatible, in the long run, with even the trappings of democracy.
The super-rich own everything in the US, including the political
parties and the political process. They allow the population to vote at
this point, more or less. But for how long? As resistance to the
policies of the elite mounts and the two-party monopoly threatens to
crumble, why should the riffraff be permitted a say in such important
affairs as elections?

You'll never believe this...
Extortion, bribery and corruption? The scandal at the 'New York Post' makes our home-grown newspaper diarists look whiter than white
http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article359545.ece

The very rich in America: "The kind of money you cannot comprehend"
By David Walsh 19 April 2006
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/apr2006/rich-a19.shtml

Let me tell you about the very rich," F. Scott Fitzgerald famously
wrote in a 1926 story, "They are different from you and me." But even
Fitzgerald could not have imagined how different "from you and me" the
very rich would become in America eight decades later.

The sums that the very wealthy have at their disposal in the US are
almost unimaginable: Oil executive Lee Raymond receiving some $400
million in a retirement package; the 2005 compensation of bank chairman
Richard Fairbank totaling some $280 million; Omid Korestani, head of
Google's global sales, exercising stock options providing him with $288
million last year.

The accumulation is brazen. What once would have been considered a
somewhat discreditable fact of social life, the proliferation of
billionaires, is now hailed as a sign of America's success. The demise
of the Soviet Union and the supposed absence of any alternative to
capitalism, the putrefaction of the AFL-CIO trade unions, the
ignominious collapse of American liberalism and the lack to this point
of broad-based, organized political opposition to the ruling elite and
its two parties have rendered the American financial aristocracy "dizzy
with success." These people have lost their heads.

In the face of public outrage over oil company profits and soaring
gasoline prices, Exxon arrogantly defended Raymond's hundreds of
millions, arguing that they were rewarding the executive's "outstanding
leadership of the business, continued strengthening of our worldwide
competitive position, and continuing progress toward achieving
long-range strategic goals." The company added that it considered
Raymond's compensation package "appropriately positioned."

In a study published in October 2005, three accounting professors
reported that negative, even occasionally scathing press coverage,
"does not substantively change corporate behaviour with regard to pay
packages." The American establishment is all but impervious to the
sentiments of the broad masses of the population. In response to a
recent report detailing the immense and growing social gap, a spokesman
for New York state's Business Council told a reporter that the incomes
earned by his state's rich were "something that everybody who cares
about New York should be pleased about."

An insulated world of immense wealth exists as never before, at least
in modern US history. The number of Americans with assets of $1 million
or more reached 7.5 million in 2004, according to a survey conducted by
the Spectrem Group. Beyond that, however, are those who possess "Ultra
High Net Worth" (a mellifluous term invented by Merrill Lynch circa
2001): individuals in households with $5 million or more in net worth.
In a country of 300 million people, the UHNW form a very small
percentage of the population, but a not insignificant number in
absolute terms. Economic, political and cultural life in America is to
an enormous extent organized for their benefit.

This is not simply obscene or unjust, it is socially irrational and
immensely destructive. How is it possible to allocate resources, repair
and renew the infrastructure, carry out any type of long-term economic
planning, cure any social ills, when the official guiding principle is
the ability of an oligarchic elite to accumulate ever-greater personal
wealth? The gravitational pull of such wealth asserts itself in every
aspect of life.

The New York Times reported last year on a relatively new phenomenon,
magazines oriented entirely toward the very wealthy. Absolute
Publishing, the Times noted, had just started up a publication called
Absolute, "for distribution to New Yorkers with an estimated annual
household income of at least $500,000."

The editor of Absolute, Ernest J, Renzulli, is aiming for an audience
of only 60,000 New York residents. He found his target readership "by
winnowing databases of the most affluent New York ZIP codes with people
who have bought houses for more than $2 million and people who have
registered cars, boats or planes that cost more than $75,000."

"It's a small number," the Times quoted Mr. Renzulli as saying.
"But this is not a magazine that's about mass reach. It's about reaching the
tip of the pyramid."

The Times take note of Michael Silverstein, an executive with the
Boston Consulting Group and co-author of Trading Up: The New American
Luxury. Silverstein estimates that by 2010 Americans will spend $1
trillion on luxury goods. The Times continues: "In an ever more
fragmented media world, the rich are becoming their own niche. They may
be diverse connoisseurs of fashion, yachting or jewelry, but they share
one important trait: a seemingly bottomless supply of disposable
income."

It must indeed be a predicament to be saddled with tens of millions or
hundreds of millions of dollars, or more-how is one to spend such sums?
Those "awash in cash" (the Times' phrase) must rack their brains and
devote hours to the problem. How could one ever rest? Would not a
person require a certain degree of inventiveness to come up with ways
of spending such a fortune?

Judging by the results in published reports-no, not particularly. By
and large, the fabulously wealthy have derived their fortunes from
inheritance, the stock market, the real estate bubble, fortunate
investments in technology or, perhaps, American militarism: in short,
from semi-automatic economic and social processes associated with the
lowering of living standards for millions in the US and the
super-exploitation of masses of people in impoverished countries in
other parts of the world. They are not startling or outstanding in any
fashion, except perhaps in the depth of their greed and
shortsightedness.

So we learn that Microsoft's Paul Allen owns a $250-million, 414-foot
"gigayacht," with seven decks, two helicopter landing pads, a swimming
pool, a basketball court, an infirmary, a garage for Land Rovers, a
movie theater, a concert space for 260 and a recording studio. Not to
be outdone, Larry Ellison of software giant Oracle had his giant yacht
built 452 feet long. Ellison's vessel has five stories, 82 rooms, "a
wine cellar the size of most beach bungalows, a dozen yacht-length
tenders, and a generator capable of providing enough electricity for a
small town in Idaho or Maine... Final cost: $377 million." (Associated
Press)

The wealthy elite are also purchasing their own widebody airplanes,
reports Business Week-Airbus A340s and Boeing 777s, which list for over
$100 million-as "airborne penthouses." Customized outfitting may add
$25 to $30 million to the cost.

The "supercar" business is also thriving. Ocean Drive, one of the new
magazines aimed at the affluent, carries a piece on Michael Fux, whose
Sleep Innovations manufactures Memory Foam products. Fux has collected
some 50 luxury cars. He recently took possession of a $2 million
Ferrari FXX, one of only 20 in the world.

USA Today, in a piece describing the new "super-rich supercar fanatics"
who collect Ferraris and Maseratis and Bugattis, cites the comments of
one auto broker in southern California, "There's a whole new breed of
collector that has emerged in the last three-four years. Almost all
make the kind of money you cannot comprehend."

Yet great unease persists in these circles. A yacht broker told
Associated Press that "a sea change in attitude among America's
superrich" has taken place in the wake of September 11. "Clients are
telling me, 'Hey, I could have been in the Twin Towers. That could have
been me jumping out a window.' The thinking among wealthy people now
is, you can die anytime. Nobody can protect you. So you might as well
spend your money now and enjoy it."

Likewise, in its analysis of the trends driving the purchase of jumbo
jets by wealthy individuals, Business Week notes: "Because of increased
concern over security, especially post-September 11, some
businesspeople now use their aircraft as a base of operations on
overseas business trips. Rather than going to a hotel or office after
landing, they just stay onboard... "

The term "conspicuous consumption," coined by Thorstein Veblen in The
Theory of the Leisure Class (1899), hardly does justice to the current
situation. There is a considerable element of recklessness, even
desperation, in the obsessive spending. Throwing money to the wind
hardly speaks to a sense of historic optimism or confidence among the
elite in its own future or the general health of the American social
order.

At the height of US global economic hegemony, in the 1950s, corporate
directors were expected to lead rather sedate lives, modestly tending
to the nation's economy. Of course they lined their pockets, but they
were not expected to live like pharaohs.

In 1957, Fortune magazine reported that some 250 or so individuals in
the US were worth $50 million or more. The wealthiest of them, oil
tycoon J. Paul Getty, stood all alone in the $700 million to $1 billion
category. The equivalent of $50 million today-some $350 million-would
not place an individual anywhere near the richest 400 people in the US,
according to Forbes's 2005 list (which begins at $900 million). Getty
would find himself somewhere between 31st and 42nd on the list.

The roll call of the wealthiest Americans a half-century ago included
famous names-Rockefeller, Harriman, Mellon, duPont, Astor, Whitney and
Ford, along with a quartet associated with General Motors, Alfred P.
Sloan Jr., Charles F. Kettering, John L. Pratt and Charles S. Mott.
These were all ruthless capitalists, but their fortunes were based,
directly or indirectly, on the growth of the productive forces.

Today, the list of the super-rich reveals an extraordinary growth of
parasitism. One indication is Forbes' listing of the "400," which
includes an extraordinary number of people whose wealth, according to
the publication, is derived from "Investments," "Hedge Funds,"
"Leveraged buyouts," "Real estate," "Fashion," etc. The
"captains of industry" of old are few and far between.

A perusal of publications such as Ocean Drive, or Gotham, or Los
Angeles Confidential sheds some light on the current tastes and
opinions of these very rich.

Real estate expert Steven Gaines told Gotham in a recent interview,
"where you choose to live [in New York City] defines you more than in
any other city. There's a right side and a wrong side of the tracks in
every city; but in New York, what floor you live on, which direction
your apartment faces, whether you move one block in either direction,
says a tremendous amount about who you are and your personal sense of
adventure."

Asked about co-op boards rejecting celebrities, Gaines replied, "I
haven't heard of any juicy rejections lately. Celebrity rejections are
very 90s; they don't really happen anymore. People are very impressed
by money; that's all it takes now. Also-and this is the most important
thing-they're not building any more [co-ops]. We don't need any more
because people don't really care who their neighbors are. [Most people]
figure that if a guy can afford a $12 million apartment in the Time
Warner building, he's cool enough to live next door."

This theme-money is absolutely everything-recurs again and again in
studies of the contemporary American elite.

The Times reporter, Katharine Q. Seelye, in her piece on magazines for
the affluent, described the publications in these words: "Most of the
magazines rely on a similar formula: extravagantly lush photography on
heavy paper stock, flattering feature articles on prominent local
personalities and snapshots of those personalities hobnobbing with each
other... The magazines also make it easy for readers to buy what they
see on the page, whether it appears in an advertisement or an
article-and it is often difficult to tell the difference, as the
magazines have elevated commercial product placement to an art form."

The magazines appear at first glance to be nothing but expensive
advertisements for clothes, watches, condos and automobiles-hundreds of
pages of them (Los Angeles Confidential runs to 350 pages, Ocean Drive
an astonishing 530!). The table of contents, gossip columns and
articles, such as they are, do little to distinguish themselves. They
humbly give way to the full-color photos of handbags and bracelets and
motorcars.

Such a magazine is merely a scaffolding for the marketing of highly
expensive products. It is a relatively convenient means of making known
to a specific clientele what is available for them to purchase this
month. And this is not something that those involved would be ashamed
to admit. No, we have moved far beyond that.

Gotham appears to specialize in real estate gossip, appropriate in
Manhattan, which has been ruined by the Trumps and their ilk. Tales of
apartment and co-op buying and selling are recounted with relish, with
the sort of sensual zest that others might take in relating stories of
sexual improprieties. In a recent issue, one piece excitedly recounts
that "the penthouse apartment of the late philanthropist Enid Haupt has
sold-at least three times. The nine-room duplex at 740 Park Avenue,
with two principal bedrooms and three-and-a-half baths, has an accepted
offer for its asking price of $27.5 million, with two backup bids-in
case the famously persnickety co-op board decides to reject the winning
bidder."

In another column, we learn that "Out in the Hamptons [on Long Island],
entrepreneur Linda Wachner is listing her seaside estate [a summer
house] for a sky-high $62.5 million, the highest price ever asked for a
Southampton Village home. The ocean- and bay-front Southampton estate
on Meadow Lane features a 16-room, two-story shingled traditional
mansion measuring nearly 10,000 square feet with 10 bedrooms, 14
bathrooms, several public rooms, a wine cellar, and staff quarters. The
property includes several hundred feet of beachfront, a rose garden, a
putting green, a pool with spa, and a tennis court with a pavilion. 'I
think it's an exciting property,' Wachner told the New York Post.
'We've had a lot of fun here.'"

Unique Homes reports that the Stanhope, on Manhattan's Fifth Avenue, is
currently being renovated into 26 luxury residences. "The space is
divided into half-floor residences of approximately 4,000 square feet
(starting at $10 million) and full-floor residences measuring
8,000-plus square feet ($30.5 million and up)." The old Plaza Hotel is
also being transformed by a developer into private residences, 182 of
them. The one- to five-bedroom units will be priced between $2.5
million and $33 million-plus.

The wealthy pockets of south Florida are targeted in Ocean Drive. The
size of a small telephone book, the magazine seems desperate to please
and impress. It takes the most ridiculously self-serious attitude
toward trivial people and circumstances. Page after page of attractive
but glum models dominate the publication, a cornucopia of expensive
consumerism.

Stiff competition between real estate projects is very much in evidence
here. Three operations, Donald Trump's "Trump Hollywood" (i.e.,
Hollywood, Florida), St. Regis Resort & Residences, Bal Harbour and
Icon Brickell, with "breathtaking views of Biscayne Bay," have included

their own elaborate, pull-out brochures in the magazine.

The St. Regis is especially noteworthy for its quite conscious effort
to evoke an imaginary aristocratic past. It employs butlers. Here is
the advertisement for that service, a disgusting passage over which
some wretched soul expended a great deal of effort:

"The St. Regis Butlers are adept at executing your requests while
anticipating your every need with consummate style. Every preference is
committed to memory. Dinner for two on the beach at seven-thirty? Shirt
collars heavily starched? A car to retrieve your business partner from
the airport tomorrow morning? It's a pleasure. Your St. Regis Butler,
always on call, is your household manager, your link to St. Regis
services and your master of conveniences. All embrace the authority to
go to any lengths to ensure you the utmost in comfort, down to the most
particular request." A butler...or an indentured servant, a serf, a
slave?

One could go on, but the outlines are clear. A type of aristocracy
rules America, which has more than one feature in common with the
ancien régime that presided over pre-revolutionary France. This vast
accumulation of wealth at one pole of society is incompatible, in the
long run, with even the trappings of democracy. The super-rich own
everything in the US, including the political parties and the political
process. They allow the population to vote at this point, more or less.
But for how long? As resistance to the policies of the elite mounts and
the two-party monopoly threatens to crumble, why should the riffraff be
permitted a say in such important affairs as elections?

m
millions of people are dying or destitute, or unemployed and then we have obscene individuals as these making their millions at other peoples' expense, blood sweat and tears, and other nations' resources!!! WHAT kind of democracy is this that allows such a divided class society as this- one side the Have's, the other side, the have nots""
" the proliferation of billionaires, is now hailed as a sign of America's success." THIS is not 'success' but EXPLOITATION and CORRUPTION and we probably all know who most of these rich Elite belong to!! how come we all pay high oil prices while these fatcats get fatter because they supposedly represent"outstanding leadership of the business' Well if that is the case then not keeping prices Low and fair displays a poor and corrupt business practice, but then again perhaps that is exactly why they do this job- exploit others while you siphon off the profits!!
and I doubt very much that the "Americans this guy speaks of would have that kind of money to spend when many barely earn enough to survive on, let alone spend it on luxury goods:
"Silverstein estimates that by 2010 Americans will spend $1 trillion on luxury goods" He must mean the Ultra Rich fellow JEWISH AMERICANS LIKE HIMSELF perhaps??

What the hell would anyone in their right mind buy over 50 cars? when one can only drive one at a time!! and so what if it has a snob title factor!!
Life must be so tragic if one is judged by what side or floor in New York they reside in:
"where you choose to live [in New York City] defines you more than in any other city. There's a right side and a wrong side of the tracks in
every city; but in New York, what floor you live on, which direction your apartment faces, whether you move one block in either direction,
says a tremendous amount about who you are and your personal sense of adventure."
One can but in all honesty concur with the writer when he states that their accumulative wealth is a corrupting threat to us all and that:
"This vast accumulation of wealth at one pole of society is incompatible, in the long run, with even the trappings of democracy!!
and as they own practically"everything in the US, including the political parties and the political process" there will come a time facing us less wealthy mortals to have our election rights usurped as THEY, the Super rich Elite, buy their way to power? and how long indeed will it be before "resistance to the policies of the elite mounts and the two-party monopoly threatens to crumble, why should the riffraff be permitted a say in such important affairs as elections?"
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