Discussion about 09/11/2001: [911TruthAction] Digest Number 1236

Wednesday, April 19, 2006

[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1236

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Topics in this digest:

1. Re: An untold story of 9/11 - Magic Suitcase Find ( govt. spinst
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
2. Paul Craig Roberts: 56 million jobs susceptable to offshore outsour
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
3. Re: An untold story of 9/11 - Magic Suitcase Find ( govt. spinst
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
4. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
5. Another Jew-inpired killing fest in the Mideast using our sons? And
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
6. Larry Silversteine tells them to Pull WTC #7 because Flt.93 was sup
From: "ranger116@webtv.net" ranger116@webtv.net
7. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
8. Re: It appears that your blocking my posts - with no notice
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
9. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
10. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
11. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
12. Betreff: Re: [911TruthAction] Berlin Newspaper asks: Is US Govt liab
From: "Samier web.de" samier@web.de
13. little boys, tigers and jungles... oh, my...
From: "goat!" goat@moag.2y.net
14. Gas Prices
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
15. Re: GET IT ! its about OIL
From: "John Perna" savefreedom2005@yahoo.com
16. April 19 in history; Day of Death in History
From: "John Perna" savefreedom2005@yahoo.com
17. Deja Vu War
From: "november.gale" november.gale@hotmail.com
18. Terri Nichols' son, Joshua will be interviewed tonight on MSNBC by R
From: "Debi Clark" debiclark@sbcglobal.net
19. Re: Gas Prices
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
20. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
21. Re: Another Jew-inpired killing fest in the Mideast using our sons?
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
22. Joost van Steenis: How corrupt elites use masspeople in politics t
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
23. Re: Gas Prices
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
24. Re: Another Jew-inpired killing fest in the Mideast using our sons?
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
25. Fw: LARRY PULLS IT by Barry Chamish
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net

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Message 1
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:29pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: An untold story of 9/11 - Magic Suitcase Find ( govt. spinst

Yeah, right.

So how do we explain the 7 Saudis that are still alive and 2 of the places
have been photographed too, still in operation after 9/11/01?

There has to be some really good new science to cover that one.

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Subject: [911TruthAction] An untold story of 9/11 - Magic Suitcase Find (
govt. spinstory to

An untold story of 9/11 - Magic Suitcase Find

( govt. spin story to try to explain how 19 photos and names of
hijackers were found within 48 hours ? )

An untold story of 9/11
BY MICHAEL DORMAN / Newsday Staff Writer / April 17, 2006

Former federal terrorism investigators say a piece of luggage
hastily checked in at the Portland, Maine, airport by a World Trade
Center hijacker on the morning of Sept. 11 provided the Rosetta stone
enabling FBI agents to swiftly unravel the mystery of who carried out
the suicide attacks and what motivated them.
A mix-up in Boston prevented the luggage from connecting with the
plane that hijackers crashed into the north tower of the trade center.
Seized by FBI agents at Boston's Logan Airport, investigators said, it
contained Arab-language papers revealing the identities of all 19
hijackers involved in the four hijackings, as well as information on
their plans, backgrounds and motives.
The luggage saga represents what the former federal authorities
describe as an untold story of 9/11 -- offering explanations for
questions long unanswered about the investigation of the tragedy, such
as how authorities were able to identify the hijackers so soon after the
attacks.
The former federal investigators said information found in the bag
was passed on to Justice Department lawyers, who prosecuted Zacarias
Moussaoui on charges growing out of the suicide attacks. A Justice
Department spokesman, Brian Roehrkasse, said: "Under the judge's order,
we're not going to comment on anything relating to the case."
Mohamed Atta, a chief coordinator of the hijackings, and
conspirator Abdulaziz AlAlomari spent the night before the attacks in
room 232 of a Comfort Inn south of Portland. They checked out at 5:33
a.m. on Sept. 11. Portland Police Chief Michael Chitwood said they drove
in a rented blue Nissan Altima -- eventually seized by the FBI -- to
Portland International Jetport.
Records show the Altima was parked in an airport lot around 5:45,
allowing Atta and Alomari only a few minutes to catch a 6 a.m. commuter
flight to Boston's Logan Airport. Although they planned to hijack an
American Airlines jet that would take off from Logan later that morning,
investigators said they might have gone through Portland in the belief
that airport security would be less stringent there.
Once the commuter flight landed at Logan, Atta and Alomari boarded
American Airlines Flight 11 bound for Los Angeles -- which they would
crash into the trade center.
'A number of telling items'
A staff report to the 9/11 Commission later concluded: "The Portland
detour almost prevented Atta and Alomari from making Flight 11 out of
Boston. In fact, the luggage they checked in Portland failed to make it
onto the plane. Seized after the Sept. 11 crashes, Atta and Alomari's
luggage turned out to contain a number of telling items, including
correspondence from the university Atta attended in Egypt; Alomari's
international driver's license and passport; a videocassette for a
Boeing 757 flight simulator; and folding knife and pepper spray,
presumably extra weapons the conspirators decided they didn't need."
The report did not say how many bags were checked in Portland, nor
did it differentiate them by their contents. But three commission staff
members who helped prepare the report said there were two pieces. Two
staff members, John Raidt and R. William Johnstone, said it was clear
both bags belonged to Atta. "He plopped both of them down on the luggage
rack," Raidt said. "Alomari just stood by."
An affidavit filed by FBI agent James K. Lechner in federal
district court in Portland reported that two bags checked by Atta were
recovered at Logan Airport Sept. 11. They were never placed on Flight 11
before it departed from Boston, Lechner said, but there was no
explanation of why they had not been loaded. Lechner described them as
"a green Travel Gear bag" and "a black Travelpro bag."
A former FBI agent and a former federal prosecutor who helped
direct the New England investigation of the Sept. 11 attacks told
Newsday that one bag found in Boston contained far more than what the
commission report cited, including the names of the hijackers, their
assignments and their al-Qaida connections.
"It had all these Arab-language papers that amounted to the Rosetta
stone of the investigation," former FBI agent Warren Flagg said. The
former federal prosecutor, who declined to be identified publicly,
supported Flagg's account.
Hijacker IDs
"How do you think the government was able to identify all 19
hijackers almost immediately after the attacks?" Flagg asked.

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( That is obviouse - The govt. knew who they were in advance and not
only did not stop them from pulling off the attack, But helped by
sending the US Air Force on similar practice interceptions to confuse
them and air traffic controllers and installed explosives in the WTCs to
make shure enough Americans were killed to con Americans and the US
Congress into letting Bush invade and occupy Afganistan and Iraq )

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"They were identified through those papers in the luggage. And that's
how it was known so soon that al-Qaida was behind the hijackings.

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( Papers in a misdirected piece of luggage that should have been on
the hijacker's plane ?
Why would the hijacker put any luggage into checked luggage if he
intended to die in the hijacking ? --
Because this is a four years late govt. spin story trying to
explain, A question I was asking four years ago ! - How did the govt.
find 19 names and photos of people you did not know were going to do
this and then were creamated in the crashes ?? !! )

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The former prosecutor agreed that papers from the luggage helped
identify suspects. "I can't speak on the record about that evidence," he
said. "This evidence was gathered under grand jury subpoenas and I can't
discuss grand jury matters."
The papers discovered in the hijackers' luggage were bolstered by
other evidence gathered against the conspirators by the FBI, the former
federal prosecutor said. "These guys left behind a paper trail,"
he said. "They had bank accounts. They rented cars. They had to show
what they were doing in the United States. We investigated 9/11 from day
one on the assumption that there might be a criminal prosecution."
But when it seemed clear that all 19 hijackers had been killed in
the attacks, jurisdiction transferred from various federal prosecutors'
offices around the country to Justice Department headquarters in
Washington.
Flagg, an FBI agent for 22 years, worked on terrorism cases, among
others. Now president of Flaggman Inc., a Manhattan-based investigative
firm, he was retired by Sept. 11 but stayed in close touch with former
FBI colleagues and prosecutors.
He said he first heard the account of the luggage's significance in
the investigation on Sept. 28, 2001, after attending the funeral for
John O'Neill, a former top FBI antiterrorism official who died helping
others to safety Sept. 11 in his new job as director of security at the
World Trade Center.
After the funeral, he said, he fell into conversation with a young
FBI agent he had helped train in the New York office. The agent, working
on the Sept. 11 investigation, told him about the luggage. The agent
said the New England prosecutor helping direct the investigation -- whom
Flagg also knew -- was familiar with the evidence. Flagg said he
telephoned the prosecutor that same day and received confirmation of the
agent's account.
"I was devastated because word had already leaked out of the
hijackers' identities," Flagg said. "But I was also excited that the FBI
had so much evidence so quickly."
The young FBI agent, who has since left the agency, works in private
industry and is reportedly in Dubai. He could not be reached for
comment.
News reports published in late September and early October 2001
described a piece of luggage apparently belonging to Atta that had been
discovered at Logan Airport after the attacks.
That piece of luggage was said to contain Arab-language papers
amounting to Atta's last will and testament, along with instructions to
the other hijackers to prepare themselves physically and spiritually for
death. The papers also admonished them: "Check all of your items -- your
bag, your clothes, knives, your will, your IDs, your passport, your
papers. ... Make sure that nobody is following you." Similar papers were
also found in the wreckage of another crashed airliner.
Flagg and the former prosecutor, however, said it was the second
bag that identified all 19 hijackers.
"That was the one that became the Rosetta stone," Flagg said.

< http://www.amny.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-
uslugg0417,0,1751421.story?coll=am-topheadlines>

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Sunni District in Baghdad Is Sealed Off - New York Times
Due to mass rioting and murders
(we are just bringing them freedom ?)

Address:
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Message 2
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:36pm(PDT)
Subject: Paul Craig Roberts: 56 million jobs susceptable to offshore outsour

How Safe is Your Job?
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Is your job safe? Not if it can be done abroad. The only safe jobs are in domestic services that require a ��hands-on�� presence, such as barbers, hospital orderlies, and waitresses.

For a number of years the Bureau of Labor Statistics�� monthly payroll jobs reports have been sending US policymakers dire warnings, only to be ignored. The March report repeats the message. Ninety-five percent of the new jobs created are in domestic services. The US economy no longer creates jobs in export or export-competitive sectors.

Wholesale and retail trade, waitresses and bartenders account for 46% of the new jobs. Education and health services, administrative and waste services, and financial activities account for another 46%. (Wholesale and retail trade jobs for March were 40,000. These jobs would be sales clerks ringing up sales on registers, people stocking the aisles at Wal-Mart, Home Depot, etc.

Leisure and hospitality (primarily waitresses and bartenders) accounted for 42,000 March jobs.) In contrast, computer system services accounted for 3,600 jobs.

The biggest item (half) in education and health services is "ambulatory health care services."

This has been the profile of US employment growth for a number of years, along with some construction jobs filled by legal and illegal immigrants. It is the job profile of a third world economy.

From January 2001 to January 2006 the US economy lost 2.9 million manufacturing jobs. The promised replacement jobs--��new economy�� high-tech knowledge jobs--have failed to materialize.

High-tech knowledge jobs are also being outsourced abroad. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, US employment of engineers and architects declined by 189,940 between November 2000 and November 2004 (latest data available).

Economist Alan Blinder estimates that as many as 56 million American jobs are susceptible to offshore outsourcing. That would be about half of the US work force.

More- http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts04182006.html

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Message 3
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:37pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: An untold story of 9/11 - Magic Suitcase Find ( govt. spinst

Sorry about the typos. The Two Planes that have been photographed, it should
have read.

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Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] An untold story of 9/11 - Magic Suitcase Find
( govt. spinstory to

Yeah, right.

So how do we explain the 7 Saudis that are still alive and 2 of the places
have been photographed too, still in operation after 9/11/01?

There has to be some really good new science to cover that one.

An untold story of 9/11 - Magic Suitcase Find

( govt. spin story to try to explain how 19 photos and names of
hijackers were found within 48 hours ? )

An untold story of 9/11
BY MICHAEL DORMAN / Newsday Staff Writer / April 17, 2006

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"They were identified through those papers in the luggage. And that's
how it was known so soon that al-Qaida was behind the hijackings.

< http://www.amny.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-
uslugg0417,0,1751421.story?coll=am-topheadlines>

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Sunni District in Baghdad Is Sealed Off - New York Times
Due to mass rioting and murders
(we are just bringing them freedom ?)

Address:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/18/world/middleeast/18iraq.html?_r=1&oref=slo
gin
<http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/18/world/middleeast/18iraq.html?_r=1&oref=sl
ogin>

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Message 4
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:44pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

The truth movement has been very successful. I remember not too long ago that people who suspected government complicity could only say so in whispers, and today it's being discussed on national TV. The persistant, low-level dissemination of truth across the nation is what made it safe for Charlie Sheen to say what he did. That's why he waited four years after having doubs on 9-11.
Don't judge our success by a congressional response or mainstream media coverage. Those two entitties are accomplices, so you shouldn't expect much from them. The American people are learning the truth quickly, except for those who are too afraid to face our scary reality. People tired of the lies are leaving the mainstream media in droves, and the mainstream media has lost all credibility, but this this is not to suggest that our work is done, because the truth movement is a lot bigger than 9-11.
If we stop at 9-11, Bush & Co. will be thrown to the dogs, and there will be no real change. Americans need to be re-educated in many areas, especially regarding our banking structure and monetary policy. I realize now that much of what I knew before being involved with the truth movement was bullshit, and that the most important knowledge was hidden from history classes, books, and of course, the mainstream media. I spend most of my time educating others, and producing educational materials. (CD's)

mikemeyer1964 <mike.meyer@asm.com> wrote:
With all of the saber rattling with Iran, I had the following
thought. I believe that the 911 Truth Movement has been successful in
one key area. While we have not broken through to main stream
America, I believe that we have created enough awareness about 911
that the gov't has to really think twice before they can stage another
False Flag event.

The gov't has gotten away with covering up 911 to date, in part
because they effectively created a cover story and destroyed the
evidence very quickly. With enough people aware of what our gov't is
capable of now, if they try another False Flag, there will be a lot of
people recording every news station and outlet; video and still
camera's everywhere, and a lot more people asking a lot more questions
right after the event. It will be more difficult to cover up
evidence. I was curious as to everyone's thoughts on what I would
call a small success for the movement.

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Message 5
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:51pm(PDT)
Subject: Another Jew-inpired killing fest in the Mideast using our sons? And

"The Jews will pay for every Iraqi, Iranian and American dead. There will be no more Israel, there will be no more Rothschilds domination or merchant banking or Harvard Law School. We may have to amputate here and there -- but the patient will survive, the global cancer will be cut out."

That's how we would sound if we had the zeal of the Zionists.

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Message 6
From: "ranger116@webtv.net" ranger116@webtv.net
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:54pm(PDT)
Subject: Larry Silversteine tells them to Pull WTC #7 because Flt.93 was sup

Larry Silversteine tells them to Pull WTC #7 because Flt.93 was supposed
to hit it and when it didn't, It had to come down or the explosives in
it would have exposed that the govt. did all of 9/11

Address:http:// www.rense.com/general70/larry.htm

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Bush Defector To Demolish 911 Lies On May 6

Address:http://www.rense.com/general70/ demol.htm

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Inside the Mind of the President:
Book By: DR.Justin A. Frank

Click below and scroll down about four screens to : Editorial Review --
To see how Insane Bush Really Is !

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Message 7
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:54pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

My grandfather was told that if he didn�t give up his copy of the paper that
had the article in it about the US attacking the Japanese in the Philippines
several weeks before they retaliated at Pearl Harbor, and shut the fuck up,
that they�d take away his citizenship and make sure he never saw his wife
and children again.

Fast forward from 1942 to now. The Government has progressed quite well in
these suppression endeavors.

For those who don�t know, the publisher wouldn�t publish Orwell�s 1984 under
it�s original title, 1948.

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[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jolly Roger
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:42 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?

The truth movement has been very successful. I remember not too long ago
that people who suspected government complicity could only say so in
whispers, and today it's being discussed on national TV. The persistant,
low-level dissemination of truth across the nation is what made it safe for
Charlie Sheen to say what he did. That's why he waited four years after
having doubs on 9-11.
Don't judge our success by a congressional response or mainstream media
coverage. Those two entitties are accomplices, so you shouldn't expect much
from them. The American people are learning the truth quickly, except for
those who are too afraid to face our scary reality. People tired of the lies
are leaving the mainstream media in droves, and the mainstream media has
lost all credibility, but this this is not to suggest that our work is done,
because the truth movement is a lot bigger than 9-11.
If we stop at 9-11, Bush & Co. will be thrown to the dogs, and there will be
no real change. Americans need to be re-educated in many areas, especially
regarding our banking structure and monetary policy. I realize now that much
of what I knew before being involved with the truth movement was bullshit,
and that the most important knowledge was hidden from history classes,
books, and of course, the mainstream media. I spend most of my time
educating others, and producing educational materials. (CD's)

mikemeyer1964 <mike.meyer@asm.com> wrote:
With all of the saber rattling with Iran, I had the following
thought. I believe that the 911 Truth Movement has been successful in
one key area. While we have not broken through to main stream
America, I believe that we have created enough awareness about 911
that the gov't has to really think twice before they can stage another
False Flag event.

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his hands,
hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken
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Message 8
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:57pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: It appears that your blocking my posts - with no notice

First of all, Leslie, I didn't block anything. Secondly, I didn't say/write anythjing rascist, and if you think I did, you need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Thirdly, this practice of accusing everyone who discusses Israel of being rascist or anti-semitic is exactly what the criminals have always done to divert the attention from their crimes, onto those who expose them.
I also never "presumed that Jewish people are going to hide their identity because you or others do not respect them," -- I merely stated that I know three Jewish people who did hide their ethnicity. You should learn how to read before you start responding to my (or anyone's ) posts.
The only one who brought up anything racist was you, and the fact you scream "racism" as a ploy to end all discussion of crimes committed by Israelis, or Zionists, makes me glad someone booted you, because you're probably working for the enemy if you're so quick to employ their standard tactics.

Leslie Schwartz <lhs_emf@pacbell.net> wrote:
Unfortunately that is about what I expected.

Your allowing racist comments to be posted and I recall you have made
such statements yourself (presuming that Jewish people are going to
hide their identity because you or others do not respect them), and
further if you are blocking my posts as it appears, it just proves to
me that your cowards and can't stand to have your biases questioned.

The sort of posts you ARE allowing are going to cause great harm to
the 9/11 truth movment, most of this anti-jewish crap has nothing to
do with 9/11, but it shows where your minds are at.

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken

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Message 9
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:00pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

thanks, Scott - that's interesting. I never knew we attacked the Japanese in the phillipines to instigate pearl, or of Orwell's changed title.

Scott Peden <scotpeden@cruzio.com> wrote:

v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} My grandfather was told that if he didn�t give up his copy of the paper that had the article in it about the US attacking the Japanese in the Philippines several weeks before they retaliated at Pearl Harbor, and shut the fuck up, that they�d take away his citizenship and make sure he never saw his wife and children again.

Fast forward from 1942 to now. The Government has progressed quite well in these suppression endeavors.

For those who don�t know, the publisher wouldn�t publish Orwell�s 1984 under it�s original title, 1948.

-----Original Message-----
From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jolly Roger
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:42 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

The truth movement has been very successful. I remember not too long ago that people who suspected government complicity could only say so in whispers, and today it's being discussed on national TV. The persistant, low-level dissemination of truth across the nation is what made it safe for Charlie Sheen to say what he did. That's why he waited four years after having doubs on 9-11.
Don't judge our success by a congressional response or mainstream media coverage. Those two entitties are accomplices, so you shouldn't expect much from them. The American people are learning the truth quickly, except for those who are too afraid to face our scary reality. People tired of the lies are leaving the mainstream media in droves, and the mainstream media has lost all credibility, but this this is not to suggest that our work is done, because the truth movement is a lot bigger than 9-11.
If we stop at 9-11, Bush & Co. will be thrown to the dogs, and there will be no real change. Americans need to be re-educated in many areas, especially regarding our banking structure and monetary policy. I realize now that much of what I knew before being involved with the truth movement was bullshit, and that the most important knowledge was hidden from history classes, books, and of course, the mainstream media. I spend most of my time educating others, and producing educational materials. (CD's)

mikemeyer1964 <mike.meyer@asm.com> wrote:
With all of the saber rattling with Iran, I had the following
thought. I believe that the 911 Truth Movement has been successful in
one key area. While we have not broken through to main stream
America, I believe that we have created enough awareness about 911
that the gov't has to really think twice before they can stage another
False Flag event.

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Message 10
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:02pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

I have always placed my faith on using the internet to expose to the world what they are and what they have done. The 9-11 frameup is a crime big enough that people can't brush it aside. Our best hope is to show the world the ample evidence of the false-flag attack -- and then enlarge that hole until their motives and their other crimes are exposed. They cannot withstand public opinion.

It is the only strategy I know -- and it is one I will keep pushing -- but I must admit, in five years I have not seen the people take what we already know and use it to enlighten the world.

Charlie Sheen is the best thing that has happened in five years. May circumstances favor his efforts.

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Peden
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

So, you are saying that it is hopeless?

Or do you proscribe a course of action as the internet ad our freedoms evaporate all at once?

Or are you depending on the masses to rise up when their entertainment is taken away?

-----Original Message-----
From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dick Eastman
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:10 AM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

The plague will not be like the attack on the Pentagon -- it will be beyond our ability to investigate.

Next the nuclear bomb that will be blamed on Iraq -- because there will be no invasion right away, they are setting Iran up for blame for the false-flag nuclear attack -- the bomb that will be blamed on Iran will not leave evidence -- and the sudden loss of all freedoms by the declaration of martial law, including the shutdown of the internet, will not permit investigations of any kind.

Or perhaps they will let the internet continue so they can guage our thinking and trace our connections -- more for them to lose by cutting us off.

----- Original Message -----

From: Scott Legere

To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:14 AM

Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

It's amazing what a little awareness can do huh?

mikemeyer1964 <mike.meyer@asm.com> wrote:

With all of the saber rattling with Iran, I had the following
thought. I believe that the 911 Truth Movement has been successful in
one key area. While we have not broken through to main stream
America, I believe that we have created enough awareness about 911
that the gov't has to really think twice before they can stage another
False Flag event.

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Message 11
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:22pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

He was amazed that the President wasn�t taken to task for that and the memo
in his desk for days informing us of the retaliation.

What I recall is we bombed a Japanese base to smithereens without declaring
war, we just opened fire.

I recently saw something about this again, came out just after the �New
Pearl Harbor� came out as so many were questioning the title and what it
meant.

-----Original Message-----
From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jolly Roger
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 10:01 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?

thanks, Scott - that's interesting. I never knew we attacked the Japanese in
the phillipines to instigate pearl, or of Orwell's changed title.

Scott Peden <scotpeden@cruzio.com> wrote:
My grandfather was told that if he didn�t give up his copy of the paper that
had the article in it about the US attacking the Japanese in the Philippines
several weeks before they retaliated at Pearl Harbor, and shut the fuck up,
that they�d take away his citizenship and make sure he never saw his wife
and children again.

Fast forward from 1942 to now. The Government has progressed quite well in
these suppression endeavors.

For those who don�t know, the publisher wouldn�t publish Orwell�s 1984 under
it�s original title, 1948.

The truth movement has been very successful. I remember not too long ago
that people who suspected government complicity could only say so in
whispers, and today it's being discussed on national TV. The persistant,
low-level dissemination of truth across the nation is what made it safe for
Charlie Sheen to say what he did. That's why he waited four years after
having doubs on 9-11.
Don't judge our success by a congressional response or mainstream media
coverage. Those two entitties are accomplices, so you shouldn't expect much
from them. The American people are learning the truth quickly, except for
those who are too afraid to face our scary reality. People tired of the lies
are leaving the mainstream media in droves, and the mainstream media has
lost all credibility, but this this is not to suggest that our work is done,
because the truth movement is a lot bigger than 9-11.
If we stop at 9-11, Bush & Co. will be thrown to the dogs, and there will be
no real change. Americans need to be re-educated in many areas, especially
regarding our banking structure and monetary policy. I realize now that much
of what I knew before being involved with the truth movement was bullshit,
and that the most important knowledge was hidden from history classes,
books, and of course, the mainstream media. I spend most of my time
educating others, and producing educational materials. (CD's)

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his hands,
hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken
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Message 12
From: "Samier web.de" samier@web.de
Date: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:27pm(PDT)
Subject: Betreff: Re: [911TruthAction] Berlin Newspaper asks: Is US Govt liab

Hello

I live in Germany and can only say that my personal feeling is that many
many people here not believe the official US-Gouverment version from 9/11..I
talked with a lot of different people about 9/11 and everybody of them told
me that they not believe the official story.All believe that the US
Gouverment knew in advance that the attack will happen but did nothing
against it..They needed such a attack to begin their called "war on terror".
And now..right now on German brakfast TV.. when I hear that Bush will think
about all options for a attack war against Iran including the use of
tactical" Nukes I could vomit..Most Germans including me really hate this
politic of war..especially the "Rumsfeld,Cheney and Bush" Clique..Stuck in
Iraq since a illegal war and now thik about massive bomb attacks against
Iran...But opposed to Iraq Iran is much better prepared..and nobody knows
how deep in the ground the important facilities are...And untill right now
Iran only has 3% angereichertes Uran..And this you can only use to build
Brennst�be" for a usual nuclear-power-plant to produce power...for nuke
weapons you need 90%....Good that there are China and Russia who will never
agree for military options against Iran in the UNO.
Ohhh..wrote a little more than I wanted 1st..hope my English is good enough
to understand lol

Greetings from Germany

Samier
-------Originalmeldung-------

Von: mann david
Datum: 04/16/06 17:00:36
An: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [911TruthAction] Berlin Newspaper asks: Is US Govt liable for
911 damages?

Thanks for that post - you're doing a hell of a job -
very balanced article also I think - keep us posted.

--- John Leonard <jpleonard@verizon.net> wrote:

> (With typos corrected from previous message)
>
> Berliner Zeitung - The Berlin News
>
http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/politik/542218.html
>
> English translation by John Leonard
>
> Thursday, April 13, 2006
>
> 9/11 Skeptics gain strength
> Critics in the USA doubt the official version
>
> by Andreas F�rster
>
> BERLIN. Is the US Government liable for the
> damages from the terror attacks of September
> 11th? The American publisher John Leonard demands
> this, because he is convinced Washington knew in
> advance about the attack plans, but did nothing
> to prevent them. Leonard wants to get Munich
> Reinsurance to investigate the possibility of the
> US government sharing the liability.
>
> This is the sense of the shareholder's
> countermotion that the Californian has filed with
> the next general meeting of Munich Re next
> Wednesday. Two subsidiary frims of the German
> insurance concern have to pay billion-dollar
> damage claims for the destruction of the World
> Trade Center. Leonard accuses the supervisory and
> managing boards of failure to investigate the
> background of the attacks thoroughly enough, and
> of depending too much on the official version of
> the events as publicized by the US Government.
>
> A New Commission
>
> Unlike the situation in Germany, four and a half
> years after the attacks, in the US there is
> growing respect for 9/11 skeptics. An independent
> commission of scientists, some of them well
> known, has been analysing the sequence of events
> before and on Sept. 11, and investigating the
> circumstances which led to the collapse of the
> WTC Twin Towers. New York Magazine devoted its
> lead story to "Ground Zero Grassy Knoll" three
> weeks ago, focusing on the contradictions in the
> official version and the many unanswered
> questions. "Grassy Knoll" is the American
> journalistic term for alternative theories about
> the background to the assassination of US President
> John F. Kennedy.
>
> The American TV network CNN also took up the
> Grassy Knoll story. In an interview that aroused
> a great deal of attention, Hollywood actor
> Charlie Sheen expressed massive doubts about the
> official 9/11 version, and challenged the
> government to answer the questions - for
> instance, why the Pakistani secret service wired
> $100,000 to the alleged death pilot Mohammed
> Atta, why a building at some distance from the
> Twin Towers, occupied by the CIA, was also
> destroyed in the attacks, and what is behind the
> unusual share trading on international stock
> exchanges just before 9/11.
>
> Photo: Should the US Government pay for the 9/11
> damages?
>
>
> Donnerstag, 13. April 2006
>
>
>
> Skeptiker des 11. Septembers erhalten Zulauf
> Kritiker in den USA bezweifeln offizielle Version
>
> Andreas F�rster
>
> BERLIN. Muss die US-Regierung f�r die bei den
> Terroranschl�gen vom 11. September 2001
> entstandenen Sch�den haften? Der amerikanische
> Verleger John Leonard fordert dies, weil
> Washington seiner �berzeugung nach vorab von den
> Attentatspl�nen gewusst, aber nicht eingegriffen
> habe. Leonard will jetzt die M�nchner
> R�ckversicherung dazu bewegen, eine m�gliche
> Mithaftung der US-Regierung zu pr�fen.
>
> Einen entsprechenden Antrag hat der Kalifornier
> als Aktion�r des Versicherungsunternehmens zur
> n�chsten Hauptversammlung der M�nchner R�ck am
> kommenden Mittwoch eingebracht. Zwei
> Tochterunternehmen des deutschen
> Versicherungskonzerns m�ssen wegen der Zerst�rung
> des World Trade Centers Schadensersatzanspr�che
> in Milliardenh�he begleichen. Leonard wirft
> Aufsichtsrat und Vorstand jetzt vor, die
> Hintergr�nde der Attacken auf das World Trade
> Center in New York nicht gr�ndlich genug
> untersucht und sich zu sehr auf die von der
> US-Regierung verbreitete offizielle Version der
> Ereignisse verlassen zu haben.
>
> Kommission eingesetzt
>
> Anders als in Deutschland nimmt in den USA
> viereinhalb Jahre nach den Anschl�gen die
> �ffentliche Aufmerksamkeit f�r die
> 9/11-Skeptiker, die Zweifel an der offiziellen
> Version der Attentate �u�ern, zu. Eine
> unabh�ngige Kommission von zum Teil namhaften
> Wissenschaftlern analysiert seit einigen Monaten
> den Ablauf der Ereignisse vor und am 11.
> September und untersucht die technische Umst�nde,
> die zum Zusammenbrechen der Zwillingst�rme des
> World Trade Centers gef�hrt haben k�nnten. Das
> New York Magazine widmete dem "Ground Zero Grassy
> Knoll" vor drei Wochen eine Titelgeschichte, in
> deren Mittelpunkt alle Widerspr�che der
> offiziellen Version und die vielen noch
> ungekl�rten Fragen stehen. Der Begriff "Grassy
> Knoll" (Grash�gel) steht im US-Journalismus als
> Synonym f�r die alternativen Theorien �ber die
> Hintergr�nde des Mordanschlags auf den
> US-Pr�sidenten John F. Kennedy.
>
> Auch der US-Fernsehsender CNN befasste sich im
> M�rz mit dem "Grassy Knoll". In einem viel
> beachteten Interview �u�erte der
> Hollywood-Schauspieler Charlie Sheen massive
> Zweifel an der offiziellen 9/11-Version und
> forderte die Regierung auf, noch offene Fragen zu
> kl�ren. Dabei geht es unter anderem darum,
> weshalb der pakistanische Geheimdienst dem
> mutma�lichen Todesflieger Mohammed Atta 100 000
> Dollar �berwiesen hat, warum ein von den
> Zwillingst�rmen des World Trade Centers weiter
> entfernt stehendes Geb�ude des US-Geheimdienstes
> bei den Anschl�gen zerst�rt wurde und worauf die
> auff�lligen Aktienbewegungen an internationalen
> B�rsen unmittelbar vor dem 11. 9. zur�ckzuf�hren
> sind.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Foto: Muss die US-Regierung f�r die Sch�den des 11.
> Septembers 2001 haften?
>
>

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Message 13
From: "goat!" goat@moag.2y.net
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:47am(PDT)
Subject: little boys, tigers and jungles... oh, my...

There was once a little boy playing in the jungle, and
a tiger came upon him and gave chase to the little boy,
the little boy remembered he had some candies in his pocket,
stopped, turned around to offer the tiger one, and was promptly
invited to dinner.

There was another little boy playing in the jungle, and a tiger
came upon him, the little boy started to run as the tiger gave chase,
and saw another boy with a spear. He ran up to the little boy with the
spear, and offered him a candy that he had in his pocket, to help with
the tiger, and they both managed to slay the tiger.

The two little boys built cities in the trees, away from the the tigers.

Then there was a third little boy "playing" in the jungle, and yes
another tiger came upon him and gave chase.

This little boy reached down and plucked his manhood from between his
legs and threw them at the tiger. The tiger licked his lips after eating
the morsels and demanded more from the little boy. Not wanting to spend
more then he already had to, the little boy remembered seeing two little
boys nearby building some odd thing, and took the tiger to the two
little boys, and sat down with the lion for a nice dinner of the other
little boys. The food supply soon ran out, and with it, the torch of
liberty and humanities hope to build cities in the sky, for humanity
itself was no more.

Goat

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Message 14
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:09am(PDT)
Subject: Gas Prices

To Find a Citgo station ,go to www.citgo.com, Oil today will open at an all time high of $71.35 per barrel,so dig deeper friends and remind all as you fill up ,bush,cheney cause this, I do and when i see the Black W ---I really ask them.You should too...
Oh by the way where is the IRAQ oil going to? Maybe China? Does anyone know?
Overton County,Tn gas prices is from $2.80 to $3.10 a gallon... Please post the price where you live...and lets keep doing it.. some here are saying it is going to $4.00 a gallon soon...
bugs
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Message 15
From: "John Perna" savefreedom2005@yahoo.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:24am(PDT)
Subject: Re: GET IT ! its about OIL

Judy Cunningham <drjudyforjustice@yahoo.com> I found this message in my "bulk mail folder", treated as spam,
but this is actually political censorship.
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SEE NOTES ON Censorship tactics on THE INTERNET
When you are a member of an egroup,
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HERE IS What is SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN:
You send a message to the group, and you get your own message back,
because you are one of the members of the group.
HERE IS what SOMETIMES DOES HAPPEN:
I sent a message to the group, and did NOT get that message back.
I checked to see if it was a moderated group,
and the message HAD not yet been approved.
Sometimes I sent a test message, and the test message was delivered.
Then I found that the censored message had been marked as "spam",
and put into the "spam" folder.
Interestingly enough, every message which
triggered this "glitch" once ; almost always triggered this "glitch" every time that it is sent. Even a REPLY to such a message will trigger the CAPCHA censorship window UNLESS the censored message is trimmed out.
ALMOST ALL of these messages were critical of something that the Department of Homeland Security had done.
Now what about the strange problems in just getting the message OUT?

FIRST I sent a message ANNOUNCING that the censored message was
about to be sent, within five minutes.
THEN I sent the censored message.
I got LOTS of emails back from people;
who got the announcement,
but did NOT get the censored message.

Below you will see a few of the problems,
that I encountered trying to sent the censored message
NONE of the things, that you see below, EVER happened,
while sending the ANNOUNCEMENT.
THESE THINGS HAPPENED ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TIME,
THAT I TRIED TO SEND
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Just a few of the censorship tactics that I saw
1. AFTER SENDING A FEW OF THESE MESSAGES, WHILE TRYING TO GO BACK TO
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Also, the filter is installed on
the main Yahoo Mail Server. For the time being, it does not block messages posted for other locations, including posts from the groups web page, although these messages often still go into the spam folder.
It is too late to argue that it does not exist. Hundreds of people have tested this by tryng to post CERTAIN specific messages from the main Yahoo Mail Server.
These are a few of the URLS for a few of these CERTAIN specific messages:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreedomOfSpeechNow/message/2

and

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and

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreedomOfSpeechNow/message/6

and

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreedomOfSpeechNow/message/8

and

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FreedomOfSpeechNow/message/48

Freedom of speech - Use it or lose it

When they took away the 4th Amendment,
we were quiet,
because we didn't deal drugs.

When they took away the 6th Amendment,
we were quiet,
because we were innocent.

When they took away the 2nd Amendment,
we were quiet,
because we don't own guns.

Now they have taking away the 1st Amendment,
and very soon,
if we continue to be quiet,
we will have no choice,
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Message 16
From: "John Perna" savefreedom2005@yahoo.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:41am(PDT)
Subject: April 19 in history; Day of Death in History

April 19 in history; Day of Death in History
In reverent memorial to those who have died on April 19, and as a precaution against new acts of violence from the New World Order, please work for peace on this date that draws near.

Think about it. What do all of these things have in common?

Waco, Oklahoma City Murrah Building, Bay of Pigs, the attack on Randy Weaver, the 'shot heard around the world', the attack on the Warsaw Poland Ghetto, the explosion in a gun turret on the USS Iowa.

Patriots Day, April 19, 1775 - Massachusetts, when an unordered 'shot heard around the world' began the American Revolution. This is now commemorated as a victory for the forces of liberty, as it did turn out to be the beginning of a revolution; which gave us a republic. It could have gone in many other directions. It is impossible to know the thoughts; which actually brought about this revolutionary action.

APRIL 19 1871 --" the communal revolution started with the popular initiative of March 18, inaugurates one new era of experimental, positive, scientific policy. It is the end of the old governmental and clerical world, militarism, officialism, the exploitation, agitation, the monopolies, of the privileges, to which the proletariat owes its serfdom, the fatherland its misfortunes and its disasters. We, citizens of Paris, we have the mission of achieving the modern revolution, broadest and most fertile of all those which illuminated the history. We have the duty to fight and overcome! "
---excerpt, "D�claration de la commune de Paris au peuple fran�ais", du 19 avril 1871.

APRIL 19 1919 -- Mutiny of the Sailors in the Black Sea (19 to 21 April). Several French warships around S�bastopol (brought in to aid in stopping the advances of the Red Army) are subject to mutiny. Begins with the sailors on the battleship "France," & spreads. A delegation, made up partly of anarchist sailors, demands suspension of the war against Russia, the return of the ships to France, & no disciplining for their actions. In S�bastopol, French officers massacre participants in a demonstration to prevent them from fraternizing with the mutineers. Despite the promises of the officers, the mutineers (such as Alphonse Sauveur Cannone; see 15 February) are treacherously arrested & receive from 10 to 20 years of prison.

APRIL 19 1933 -- President Franklin D. Roosevelt takes the US off the gold standard.

APRIL 19 1943 A contingent of 2,000 heavily armed Schutzstaffel troops with tanks enter the Warsaw Poland: Ghetto . While the civilian population hides in underground bunkers, the ghetto fighters attack the Germans with incendiary bottles & a few guns. Shocked by the Jewish resistance, the SS is forced to withdraw. Unable to put down the revolt with conventional weapons, the Germans resort to setting the ghetto on fire.

APRIL 19 1952 -- England: 35 Operation Gandhi supporters picket Aldermaston AWRE, a spy base.

April 19,1960 Namibia Founding of Swapo

April 19,1960 After the Korean peninsula was divided at the 38th parallel. In the north, "Kim Il-sung" who was backed up by the USSR and in the south "Syngman Rhee" who was supported by the USA established each government respectively.

In South Korea, President Syngman Rhee ruled the nation with anti-communism as a state policy. President Rhee was ousted by an uprising called "the April 19 Revolution".

April 19, 1961-Failed Bay of Pigs disastrous invasion of Cuba- freedom fighters betrayed by being promised air support, which was not provided

The declassified CIA documents show that the final invasion plan did bar the U.S. pilots from joining in the bombing runs. But the exile pilots, who had been attacking Cuban airports and other targets for three days before the invasion collapsed on April 19, "were exhausted and dispirited," according to the documents.

Initially, the CIA blamed the lack of air cover for the invasion's failure, but the CIA inspector general's report blamed the CIA itself � its arrogance, poor planning and "almost willful bungling."

APRIL 19 1971 -- US: Several hundred Vietnam Veterans Against the War begin an encampment on Capitol Hill, Washington, D.C. Launch "Operation Dewey Canyon III (April 19-23).

APRIL 19 1978 -- California Governor Jerry Brown refuses a request to extradite American Indian Movement (AIM) leader Dennis Banks to South Dakota to stand trial.

APRIL 19 1980 Colombia Founding of M-19 The "April 19 Movement (M-19)," a leftist guerrilla group.

APRIL 19 1989 -- Forty seven U.S. sailors were killed by an explosion in a gun turret on the USS Iowa during gunnery exercises in the waters off Puerto Rico. Turret explosion is initially blamed on alleged suicide pact between homosexual sailors, as conjectured by Naval Investigative Service & as leaked to NBC News.

April 19, 1992 Protestors rally in the annual Easter Protest at the site of nuclear weapons testing, and nearly 500 are arrested.

April 19, 1992 first attempted raid on the Weaver Family

April 19, 1993 - Federal agents attack Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas, shooting or incinerating over 80 women, men, & children.

Branch Davidian compound burned to the ground with 86 persons inside, including 17 children.

April 19th 1994 -- Henry Kissenger, World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994 "[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change it's perceptions."

April 19, 1995 -Oklahoma City At 9:02 a.m.: A massive car-bomb explosion was used as a detonator of; or a diversion of attention away from, other INTERNAL EXPLOSIONS. Demolition charges on the critical failed support columns destroyed the entire side of a nine story federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 persons, including 19 children inside a day care center. A decorated Gulf War veteran was later convicted for the attack.

Bombing of Federal Building in Oklahoma City sets off hunt for Arab terrorists & Muslims. Results in new laws suspending due process for non-US citizens.

19 April 1996 Marine Corp issues treatise against "right wing" extremism

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/presley.htm

Title: Rise of Domestic Terrorism and Its Relation to United States Armed Forces

Author: LCDR Steven Mack Presley, MSC, USN

Thesis: Extremist

April 19, 1998 British Family Kidnapped - A British Council teacher, his wife and their 14-year-old son have been kidnapped by tribesmen while driving to the capital from southern Yemen, the embassy said Sunday. David Mitchell, 48, his wife Caroline and son Ben were seized around midday Thursday on the road from the southern port city of Aden to the capital, said David Pearce, the deputy head of mission. The kidnapping took place outside the town of Dhamar, 100 kilometres (60 miles) from Sanaa. (AFP)

April 19, 1999.......A civilian contract worker for the US Navy, David Sanes
is killed and five others are wounded on the Puerto Rican island of Vieques.
A 500 ton Navy bomb missed its target on the US Navy bombing range.
This was the incident; which rekindled, and renewed, a struggle by the people of Vieques and Puerto Rico to get
the US Navy to stop boming Vieques as it had done for 60 years.

Columbine was on April 20
They kidnapped Elian Gonzalez April 22, 2000

It is time to update a famous quote from Rev. Martin Niemoller
Constitutional rights:

Freedom of religion
Freedom of speech
Freedom of assembly
The right to keep and bear arms.

Are NOT dependent on which religion or ideology someone believes. If one group can be liquidated, it will just be a matter of time before they get around YOU.

Rev. Martin Niemoller, commenting on events in Germany 1933-1939 said:

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics, and
I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me, and by that time, no one was left to
speak up." -- Rev. Dr. Martin Niemoeller, July 1,
1937; arrested by the Third Reich

An update of this concept, with the United States in mind, would go like this:

"First they burned the house of the Symbionese Liberation Army and killed all of their members. Most of us did not object because we did not believe in the same things as the Symbionese Liberation Army.

Then they dropped a bomb on the building of the Philadelphia MOVE group, and destroyed two city blocks, and killed 11 members. Most of us did not object because we did not believe in the same things as the MOVE group.

Then they burned the house of Gordon Kahl, a tax protester, and killed him. Most of us did not object because we did not believe in the same things as Gordon Kahl.

Then they burned the house of Robert Matthews, leader of "The Order," and killed him. Most of us did not object because we did not believe in the same things as Robert Matthews.

Then they conducted a siege and a raid of 80-member Covenant of the Sword and Arm of the Lord religious group. Most of us did not object because we did not believe in the same things as the Covenant of the Sword and Arm of the Lord.

Then they conducted a siege and a raid of Randy Weaver's family, and killed or wounded nearly everyone present; even including a baby and the dog. Many of us did not object because we did not believe in the same things as Randy Weaver's family.

Then they burned the church of the Branch Davidians and killed nearly all of them. A few of us did not object because we did not believe in the same things as the Branch Davidians

And then they kidnapped Elian Gonzalez ..."

John Perna April 22, 2000

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Message 17
From: "november.gale" november.gale@hotmail.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:52am(PDT)
Subject: Deja Vu War

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11924.htm

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Message 18
From: "Debi Clark" debiclark@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:57am(PDT)
Subject: Terri Nichols' son, Joshua will be interviewed tonight on MSNBC by R

Terri Nichols' son, Joshua will be interviewed tonight on MSNBC by Rita
Cosby.

Joshua says there were others involved in the O.K. City bombing.

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Message 19
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:05am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Gas Prices

The Oil in Iraq is going no where. After the first three months of farce,
they never even tried to keep the oil line protected.

What they have done, for their oil buddies is take that competition out of
circulation.

How would you like it if you had a business and your buddies with the guns
nullified your #1 competitor?

Yes, it is about the Oil, but the Oil is only one of many plans in actions
that evolves to economic control of the worlds governments.

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[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bugs
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:09 AM
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Subject: [911TruthAction] Gas Prices

To Find a Citgo station ,go to www.citgo.com, Oil today will open at an
all time high of $71.35 per barrel,so dig deeper friends and remind all as
you fill up ,bush,cheney cause this, I do and when i see the Black W ---I
really ask them.You should too...
Oh by the way where is the IRAQ oil going to? Maybe China? Does anyone know?
Overton County,Tn gas prices is from $2.80 to $3.10 a gallon... Please post
the price where you live...and lets keep doing it.. some here are saying it
is going to $4.00 a gallon soon...
bugs

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Message 20
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:20am(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

ya, the buck doesn't stop at shrub co... it goes WAY beyond these mofos.....

for myself, 9/11 represented a new period of self-awareness and monumental paradigm shifting, if it wasn't for 9/11 I wouldn't have known that WWI and WWII were controlled conflicts by the oligarchy/corporate powers. I wouldn't have known about the alternative health history and fantastic discovery (Royal Rife), or about the federal reserve fraud, and learning the REAL truth about how really beautiful the american form of republican government is (NO not the republican party! we are a REPUBLIC not a democracy!!), or why the 2nd amendment was added and how monumentally important the bill of rights are.....No Bill of Rights No america! i'm sad to say it took the violent deaths of thousands of people to bring about such a powerful epiphany. We must make this tragedy into a triumph, that is the least we can do for all those who died at the hands of these murderers........

Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote:
The truth movement has been very successful. I remember not too long ago that people who suspected government complicity could only say so in whispers, and today it's being discussed on national TV. The persistant, low-level dissemination of truth across the nation is what made it safe for Charlie Sheen to say what he did. That's why he waited four years after having doubs on 9-11.
Don't judge our success by a congressional response or mainstream media coverage. Those two entitties are accomplices, so you shouldn't expect much from them. The American people are learning the truth quickly, except for those who are too afraid to face our scary reality. People tired of the lies are leaving the mainstream media in droves, and the mainstream media has lost all credibility, but this this is not to suggest that our work is done, because the truth movement is a lot bigger than 9-11.
If we stop at 9-11, Bush & Co. will be thrown to the dogs, and there will be no real change. Americans need to be re-educated in many areas, especially regarding our banking structure and monetary policy. I realize now that much of what I knew before being involved with the truth movement was bullshit, and that the most important knowledge was hidden from history classes, books, and of course, the mainstream media. I spend most of my time educating others, and producing educational materials. (CD's)

mikemeyer1964 <mike.meyer@asm.com> wrote:
With all of the saber rattling with Iran, I had the following
thought. I believe that the 911 Truth Movement has been successful in
one key area. While we have not broken through to main stream
America, I believe that we have created enough awareness about 911
that the gov't has to really think twice before they can stage another
False Flag event.

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Message 21
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:21am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Another Jew-inpired killing fest in the Mideast using our sons?

KEY word is Zionist!

Plz don't interchange the two mr. Eastman.....

Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:
"The Jews will pay for every Iraqi, Iranian and American dead. There will be no more Israel, there will be no more Rothschilds domination or merchant banking or Harvard Law School. We may have to amputate here and there -- but the patient will survive, the global cancer will be cut out."

That's how we would sound if we had the zeal of the Zionists.

Dick Eastman
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Message 22
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:28am(PDT)
Subject: Joost van Steenis: How corrupt elites use masspeople in politics t

From: power elite
To: downwithelite@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:46 AM
Subject: People's Power?! the 70th Letter

Bangkok April 20 2006

Dear reader, this is the 70th Letter of an Autonomous Thinker

The Power of the People should have chased away the former Philippine president, the corrupt and dictatorial Marcos.
The media (owned by the rich) applauded the actions but you may wonder why rich elitist tycoons should be thrilled by People's Power, why the elite should like it that one of their kind is overthrown by masspeople.

The answer is simple: Marcos was not removed by masspeople!

Marcos was replaced by the somewhat-less-rich Aquino who was also a prominent member of the Philippine elite. After her came Estrada who was also overthrown by People's Power and succeeded by the equally rich and corrupt Arroyo.

All these leaders did not give a hoot about the poor. The masses were only used as a weapon in the battle between two groups of rich and corrupt elitists.
Massactions that are controlled by parts of the elite - that want to improve its own situation - have occurred in many Third World countries.
In Thailand for example prime minister Thaksin, who among other things used his power to direct a billion dollars to his clan, was forced to go away. Again after masspeople were mobilised by other rich people who wanted a bigger piece of the cake.
Masspeople did never promote their own interests.

The Third World is more hierarchical than the First World and therefore leaders can organise actions that look like People's Power. Family, clan and tribe have less influence in the First World. Politicians cannot claim they "own" a constituency, that they "own" certain functions (and give these functions away to family members or cronies as in a dynasty).

It does not happen often in the rich countries that a top leader is the son of a former president (Bush) but in the Third World political functions are kept in the family (India, Sri Lanka, Bangla Desh etc.).

Though the Waltons still directly lead Walmart, the influence of old and very rich families on most multinationals has become indirect. The influence of groups, families, clans, birthplaces etc to which one belongs by birth, has diminished in rich countries. And the possibility of autonomous actions of masspeople has increased because social bonds, the individual did not choose and cannot break or even influence, have become weaker. It will still take many years till developing countries advance to this point. But the First World has also a long way to go because for example in massactions organised by hierarchical Trade Unions masspeople are still used by leaders.

But People's Power does not exist in Third World countries. The eclipse of people like Thaksin (Thailand), Fujimoro (Peru), Marcos (Philippines) or Mugabe (Zimbabwe) can hardly be seen as a positive political development.

I only write about developing countries because 'our' leaders are deeply involved in controlling the poorer parts of the world (especially in regard to natural resources).
Solutions I advance on my site have in the first place the intention to change the political structure (and people) in rich countries. Third World countries should be left alone to develop their own way to the future. They are still far away from a situation in which individual masspeople become active against individual elitepeople who place their own interests above the interest of all humans.

Yours truly, Joost van Steenis
http://members.chello.nl/jsteenis
Ways to increase masspower

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Message 23
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:29am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Gas Prices

How would you like it if you had a business and your buddies with the guns nullified your #1 competitor?

ROFLLMAO!!!! Don't you know that's Rockefeller style of doing business?

Scott Peden <scotpeden@cruzio.com> wrote:

v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} The Oil in Iraq is going no where. After the first three months of farce, they never even tried to keep the oil line protected.

What they have done, for their oil buddies is take that competition out of circulation.

How would you like it if you had a business and your buddies with the guns nullified your #1 competitor?

Yes, it is about the Oil, but the Oil is only one of many plans in actions that evolves to economic control of the worlds governments.

-----Original Message-----
From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bugs
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:09 AM
To: a; 911truthaction@yahoogroups.com; texaskerry@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] Gas Prices

To Find a Citgo station ,go to www.citgo.com, Oil today will open at an all time high of $71.35 per barrel,so dig deeper friends and remind all as you fill up ,bush,cheney cause this, I do and when i see the Black W ---I really ask them.You should too...
Oh by the way where is the IRAQ oil going to? Maybe China? Does anyone know?
Overton County,Tn gas prices is from $2.80 to $3.10 a gallon... Please post the price where you live...and lets keep doing it.. some here are saying it is going to $4.00 a gallon soon...
bugs

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Message 24
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:33am(PDT)
Subject: Re: Another Jew-inpired killing fest in the Mideast using our sons?

I reread that, sorry my comprehension mistake , I see the point you're trying to make....

Hey now don't forget about them crazy PNACers/Zionists wanting to legitimize the use of ethnospecific bioweapons eh? pg 67 of "Rebuilding Americas defenses"!!!

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- Notebook, 1904

http://www.fightthenwo.org/

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Message 25
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:33am(PDT)
Subject: Fw: LARRY PULLS IT by Barry Chamish

From: "Richard Pierce" <phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com>

www.barrychamish.com

LARRY PULLS IT by Barry Chamish

I was in Cyprus for five days where I stayed with Jim Searcy. He had
just produced a 9-11 CD and noted, "They screwed up Building 7 and UA Flight
93. If people figure those out, the scandal will fly."
I answered him, "They're already figured out. It's the same scandal."
Jim didn't know what I was saying. And when I got home I looked on the
internet. No one had put it together. I can't believe this, but you're
hearing a new 9-11 fact.
Flight 93 was supposed to knock Building 7 down and the building was
jammed with explosives for the moment. But instead, the plane fell in
Pennsylvania so owner Larry Silverstein had to bring the building down by
himself. That, or expose the demolitives for the world to see.
There, now you know. Another Sabbataian "Jew" mucking up the world.
But first some facts. Building 7 fell in a controlled demolition.
Larry said so. Need I ask? Do you know how how long it takes to rig a
building for a perfect fall? Larry broke the record by a few weeks, rigging
his building in a few hours, while the twin towers smoldered beside him.

http://www.wtc7.net/steeldisposal.html

Yet, despite the paramount importance of the remains, they were hauled away
and melted down as quickly as possible. The steel was sold to scrap metals
vendors and most was soon on ships bound for China and India. Some of the
smaller pieces and a few token large pieces of steel marked 'save' were
allowed to be inspected at Fresh Kills landfill by FEMA's BPAT volunteers.
Officials running the "cleanup operation" took pains to make sure the
structural steel didn't end up anywhere but in blast furnaces. They
installed GPS locater devices on each of the trucks hauling loads from
Ground Zero at a cost of $1000 each.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/050106silversteinanswers.ht
m
Questions about the highly suspicious nature of the building's collapse
remained comparatively muted until January 2004, when a PBS documentary,
America Rebuilds, originally broadcast in September 2002, received attention
across the Internet.
The documentary was made infamous for one comment made by Larry Silverstein
on the subject of 9/11. Silverstein states, "I remember getting a call from
the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they
were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible
loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that
decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html
For a building to collapse into its own footprint, as WTC 7 did, ALL of the
load bearing members must fail at the exact same moment. This is achieved in
controlled demolitions.

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

Meanwhile, Flight 93 had to be shot down. It's nose was found eight
miles from the tail in a Pennsylvania field. Such stories were made up to
explain the mess! The terrorists let the toughest guys get together to use
their personal handsets to call home. Someone heard, "Let's get rolling,
boys." They rushed the cockpit and saved the nation.
Except cellphones don't work from 35,000 feet up.

http://physics911.ca/org/modules/weblog/details.php?blog_id=65
CeeCee Lyles husband said that he saw the caller ID, Ed Felt had called from
a bathroom, and Airphone cords don't reach that far.
As a matter of fact, in a bathroom, one would expect that it would be harder
to make a call, probably bringing down the power about in 1/2 (3dB).
Ted Olson first said that Barbara had used a cell phone, then he said she
was in the bathroom, then he said she forgot her purse and had to borrow a
credit card from someone to make an airphone call. his story kept changing.
If you look at the flight maps, most of the calls for flight 93 "should"
have been made at 35,000ft or even above.
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?315

And who were the select passengers on board? Pretty unusual and
tiny group, no?

Flight 93 had only forty four people in total, including four suspected
hijackers. Thirty
seven passengers (excluding crew) on a plane that holds around two hundred
people
http://team8plus.org/content.php?article.8
23 of those (at least) bought tickets at the last minute !
also several people came from flight 91 that was cancelled.
Did ANYONE buy tickets for flight 93 ahead of time???

QUESTIONS FOR LARRY

In 1980 Larry Silverstein won a bid to buy the last undeveloped parcel from
the Port Authority of New York.

The Port Authority is not a municipal property. It was founded by and
owned by the Rockefeller family.

When the attacks occurred, Silverstein was at home debating with his wife
about plans to move his headquarters to the 88th floor of the North Tower.
His son Roger was at 7 World Trade Center but was not hurt.

This, of course, was a lie. He was not debating his wife and his son
was out of danger.

How concerned should we be therefore that Silverstein Properties bought the
lease from MetLife for Chicago's Sears Tower in March 2004?

We should be extremely concerned.

Following the attacks, Silverstein was awarded an insurance payment of more
than three and a half billion dollars to settle his seven-week-old insurance
policy[3]. In addition, the Silverstein group sued the insurers liable for
the World Trade Center for another three and a half billion dollars,
claiming that by an obscure clause in their contract, the two planes
constituted two separate terrorist attacks[4]. In total, Silverstein was
awarded nearly $7.2 billion in insurance money following the destruction of
the Twin Towers[5].

No point losing, now is there?
We now get to Larry's politics. What do we discover? His first
customer for the new Building 7 is a Chinese revolutionary. Larry may have
owned the WTC inside, but the outside concourse was Israeli. And who did
Larry support in the last Israeli election but the king of chopping Israel
to nothing,
the great, now-headless, Ariel Sharon.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/13/nyregion/13wtc.html?_r=1&n=Top%2fReference
%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fS%2fSilverstein%2c%20Larry%20A%2e&oref=slogin

He is, by most accounts, an unusual businessman, especially in China. He
stresses vision and serving his country as much as the bottom line. He said
his real interests were history, Marx, Hegel and Mao.
Then there are the pictures of Che Guevara and Yasser Arafat in his office.
He explained that they were both revolutionaries, emphasizing that he
admired Mr. Arafat's discipline and courage, not his politics.
"He spent his whole life trying to achieve one thing," Mr. Feng said. "He
had great determination; real perseverance."

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On September 12, 2001, The Jerusalem Post reported: "Frank Lowy, who
emigrated to Australia from Israel in 1952, owns the 99-year lease for the
425,000 square foot retail portion of the destroyed World Trade
Center.Westfield said today that it has insurance cover against terrorist
attacks and its earnings will not be materially affected."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=90159
A report by Israel's Channel Ten television reporter Raviv Drucker last
night provided a detailed report on the Sunday night affair. He related how
the organizer and hostess - NIna Rosenwald - sent letters to selected
invitees asking for $10,000 per person or couple, and how the 5th Avenue
location was closed off for over an hour for what the police described as a
"top secret" reason. Only the 15 invited couples were permitted to enter
Rosenwald's apartment, after having paid the minimum amount in advance.
Rosenwald is a member of the CFR (Council of Foreign Relations).

Among the participants at the dinner were World Trade Center insurance
beneficiary Larry Silverstein.
A reporter asked Silverstein on his way out if Sharon had thanked him for
his donation. Silverstein replied, "No. But it's not necessary; we're here
to support the man."

It's simply a God-awful world for Jews and those who know our
history is divine. It's even worse because anti-semites can have a field day
and not have a clue how dumb they are. Silverstein can call himself as Jew,
but he is working for the Sabbataian/Frankist fold. They hate Judaism and
use all their power to make it disappear into the worship of the anti-Jewish
fiend, Shabbtai Tzvi.
For, this they created Israel.
But Israel turned religious and that had to be stopped. So the
religious began to "disengage." And the more Israel's religious are drawn
into the mainstream, the more Iraq, and Afghanistan and Iraq explode.
Even though it's staring the anti-semites in the face, they don't
get it. Their closest ally in the Middle East is not the Arabs, who despise
them thoroughly, and it is surely not the Israeli peace camp, leading the
nation to permanent disengagement and taking the world with it.
It's those right-wing, religious Israeli Jews.
So, by being too dumb to sort it out, the anti-semites are letting
Larry and his New World Order buddies get away with anything they want.

And only one brilliant site on the whole internet figured the whole
thing out:

http://www.cloakanddagger.de/media/Grossmann/Four%20Horsemen/066%20Four%20Ri
ders%20of%209-11%20Apocalypse.htm

IV. THE FALSE JEW CONNECTION:

NAMES: Leon Fuerth, Andrew Gitlin, Larry Silverstein, Maurice Hank
Greenberg, Henry Kissinger, Rahm Emanuel, Ariel Sharon
THEORY: People like Fuerth, Emanuel (U.S. Mossad chief in the Clinton era
and White House Rasputin), Kissinger, Gitlin, Greenberg, Silverstein, Sharon
are reputedly leaders of a homosexual satanic underground (at least its
relatively small Jewish division, overshadowed by its much larger non-Jewish
division). They are false Jews. From their midst allegedly came the impulse
to assassinate the Israeli Prime Minister and peace dove Yitzhak Rabin, the
impulse to provoke the still ongoing Second Intifada in Palestine in fall
2000, and the re-emergence of the known serial murderer and terrorist Ariel
Sharon. Sharon was elected Prime Minister of Israel on February 6, 2001 in a
special election. This grouping sent several prominent members into the
informal committee(s) that perpetrated 9-11 on America. There are multiple
links to the second-generation Meyer Lansky crime syndicate. A note of
clarification: I am NOT saying "it was the Jews", and do not quote me thus.

end

I could have added, from the moment Larry was informed Building 7 HAD to
come down because its flight wasn't arriving, to the present day... but I
held back. Still, look at the connections. July 11 of last year saw London
under attack. And who was there but Rudy Guliani and Binyamin Netanyahu.
Were they in town to observe the reaction? Guliani for sure.You needed a
mayor to run 9-11. That's why they made him a knight. I'll say Netanyahu too
on gut reaction.

http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?387

This report, repeated by IsraelNN.com, added that the Israeli Embassy in
London was notified in advance, resulting in Foreign Minister Binyamin
Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel
adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train
station, where he was to address an economic summit.?

The Frankist Michael Chertoff kept New Orleans wet and thirsty for
as long as he could, and his
cousin kept the 9-11 critics stupid.

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/090305alexresponds.htm
'Who is Benjamin Chertoff, the senior researcher at Popular Mechanics who is
behind the article? American Free Press has learned that he is none other
than a cousin of Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of
Homeland Security. This means that Hearst paid Benjamin Chertoff to write an
article supporting the seriously flawed explanation that is based on a
practically non-existent investigation of the terror event that directly led
to the creation of the massive national security department his cousin now
heads.

I saw much this week. Driving in the backwoods of Cyprus looking for
bass lakes, I saw the future the British military has built there. I drove
by a brand new prison far from the people and as big as a good-sized town.
But nothing was as upsetting as my son and I spending 10 minutes at
Israeli passport control, coming and going, and watching the policewomen
reading all about me and receiving instructions by phone on what to do about
me.
I'm now convinced the Israeli authorities are committed to shutting
me down. I may help them along a bit. It is clear enough after ten years
that not one person anywhere has the courage to fund what I know to save the
Jews.
And that is a huge mistake because 9-11 may come out and the Jews
will be blamed with the Frankist/Sabbataians. More worrisome, they will be
disengaged to uselessness while the nation is buried in missiles.
There are so many wonderful options. When will it stop??
Take the next ad and reduce it to $40 for five. It's time to start
moving on.

Til the end of the holiday 5 OF ANYTHING FOR $40

English Books:
Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin
Save Israel
Last Days Of Israel
Israel Betrayed
Shabtai Tzvi, Labor Zionism And The Holocaust

English CDs

Zion First: The Vatican's New Crusade For Jerusalem

Videos

Who Murdered Rabin

Hebrew Books

Rabin, Save Israel, Last Days, Shabtai Tzvi

CDs

The Dirty War Against The Settlers
Who Murdered Rabin (also Video)

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