[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1218

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: The Big Picture
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
2. CREDIBILITY? Scholars for 9/11 Truth, Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-eleven
From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net>
3. Jew Baiting
From: "Ray Antoky" <rayantoky@aol.com>
4. "SOS>>> "Save Our Selves">>>The Big Picture...Please Forward Everywhere
From: "MarshaMcClelland" <mofmars3@sbcglobal.net>
5. Re: Dick Eastman and "The Jews"
From: mann david <dmann51@yahoo.com>
6. \hy Moussaoui confession doesn't add up! tvnl news
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
7. Mexican Government's guide to illegal immigration
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
8. Fwd: 9/11 Info Resource Series
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
9. Re: The Big Picture
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
10. Re: The Big Picture
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
11. Re: The Big Picture
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
12. Re: The Big Picture
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
13. Re: [] PVP [] Mexican Government's guide to illegal immigration
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
14. Re: The Big Picture
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
15. Re: The Big Picture
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
16. Re: The Big Picture
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
17. Greg Nixon: to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is not correct.
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
18. Peter Wakefield Sault comments: "Jolly Roger" gives us The Big Picture
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
19. "the historic plan of Jewish Ritual Murder" -- Eustace Mullins
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
20. Fw: I was wrong.
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
21. Re: Dick Eastman and "The Jews"
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
22. FW: WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES I WILL SEND A POLITICALLY CENSORED MESSAGE.
From: "Debi Clark" <debiclark@sbcglobal.net>
23. "We The People" have had war declared on "US" by this corrupt administration. Th
From: "MarshaMcClelland" <mofmars3@sbcglobal.net>
24. articles : Twelve business groups run Israeli economy -=- 109 m. Chinese work in manufacturing, cf. only 53 m. in G7 countries
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
25. Fw: Chinese economic model for Latin America alarms US -=- racist Purim -=- Lawyer bodily removed from Zundel trial -=-Japan's investment in China increasing as others' is declining
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:46:48 -0400
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
Subject: Re: The Big Picture

I keep thinking of Hitler,it's the same thing,was he one of the new
thinking,i believe this whole thing goes way back,i mean way back,i may
sound the fool,but i think not...Kitty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Naveed" <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] The Big Picture

> i'd have to agree with mr. Hammond, some people think the freemasons did
it, zionists, big oil, and etc.....these are elements contributing to the
overall picture. to effectively place the blame on a single group has the
tendency to create a tunnel vision which shuts out many other legitimate
perspectives. Only thing i'm going to block is the "alien" perpective. Evil
men in powerful positions are in the process of consolidating their power,
for the sake of furthering their power.
>
> Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote: I agree. The Zionist
element is just that AM ELEMENT. There is a much bigger picture here. But
this is where I have to disagree with you as well Greg. There is a whole
lot more to this than just a few greedy slimy businessmen.
>
> greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote: Sorry to say Jolly, but you are
losing your way IMHO. The alleged zionist conspiracy being at the bottom of
it all is ridiculously simplistic. Yes there is some element of Israeli
interest at play on the world's stage, but to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is
not correct. Most of the evil unfolding before us, 9/11 included, is the
result of calculating businessmen. The private miltitary contractors, oil,
and finance are the big players. All this 'dem Joos did it' at Truth Action
is really bringing down the intent and quality of the alleged activist
forum.
>
> Greg Nixon
>
>
> Jolly Roger <removingheads@yahoo.com> wrote:
> At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American who
invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they're just figuring that
out now, they're throwing stones from a glass house. Of course he's an
idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs of intelligence,
evil actions couldn't be repeatedly passed off as "failures" or "bungling."
If the president were intelligent and scholarly, people would question why
he's completely incompetent, but because he's an obvious buffoon, many
people accept that as the reason everything's going horribly wrong. It's
also a lot less distressing to believe that your government is incompetent
rather than know that they're evil, and most people will cling to that
comfort. The real problem is that if people blame Bush's idiocy for our
troubles, they probably also think that the solution would be to get him out
of office, but if they think we'll be saved by "Hillary in '08," or any
other politician, they're
> even slower than Bush.
> Regardless of who's occupying the White House, there has never been an
idiot running this country. There's simply too much power and money at stake
for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an idiot, and there
doesn't seem to be too much debate on that issue concerning Dubya, he's only
in the White House because someone else has firm control over him. Someone
somewhere is flipping through the Bush-Gannon photo album, and that person
has a lot more control over the fate of this nation than our "president"
does.
> Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn't being
run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The answer is
that it's going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the erroneous
assumption that this country is being run by people who are acting in the
interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from the truth. Instead of
accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a lousy president, please try
to think in terms of Bush's "boss" being someone other than the American
people, and his "job" as being to grab as much cash as he can for himself
and his friends before driving this country into the ground. If you look at
his presidency in that light, you can instantly see that he's doing a
marvelous job, and he's the best "president" an enemy nation could ever hope
to see in the White House.
> The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is
being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both political
parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading memories,
the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper," and the election
process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped overseas, the
economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped, the Army is "broken,"
the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being dissolved, and every
dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being looted, is already gone.
With the entire nation and its population deep in debt, crashing the economy
is a simple matter of raising interest rates, which will allow the bankers
to once again scoop up all mortgaged property, and force its inhabitants out
into the street.
> The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this country
that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do they
benefit from destroying a country they control?"
> To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question, ask
yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he shows
undying financial, political, and military support for Israel. Whose enemies
are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why did Ariel Sharon say
"Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?" Don't you think it's a
bit strange that an American president said "I'd die for Israel," after
dodging the draft when America was at war? The Israelis are in firm control
of most American politicians, and AIPAC insures that any politician who
doesn't support Israel, is not re-elected.
> The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by
destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is only a
stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be
possible without first destroying America, because America intact would
present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty goals.
Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing the economy to
crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth in the planet's
history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve, have instigated
this horror many times in the past, most recently in 1929, when they made a
killing by triggering the great depression.
> If you're still following this madness, you've noticed I'm suggesting
that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the
destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to rule the
world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little far-fetched,
but it happens to be strongly supported by documentation, historic
precedent, and much of what's happening today.
> Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making sense of
this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why would I
think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one, Israel was
created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them. Zionism is a
political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land, and although
this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving it have killed
millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of horrifying. Although
most of the world recognizes Israel as a "Jewish state," what most people
don't know is that in Israel, there is widespread discrimination against
many Jews, and this discrimination is carried out, oddly enough, by other
Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist Jews.
> Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of people
the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this division, we
need to know something of their history. On one side of the division are
Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes cast out of the
holy land as per the story most people are familiar with, and on the other
side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are of a different origin.
Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars, who occupied what is known
today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very war-like people who became a
very powerful nation, and their king decided out of political convenience
that his pagan population would suddenly become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers
were imported, and the national conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven
hundred years later, they would be driven into eastern Europe by the
Mongols.
> Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to remain
in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy land, but
it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction of Ashkenazi
Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the holy land without
divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than waiting around
for one.
> To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the many
varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States
demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted differently by
different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction makes it
very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the world.
Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon the world by
Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit more closely. When
we do, we discover that this one small group of people has been responsible
for most of the world's problems over the last century, and have unspeakable
horrors planned for our future.
> It's important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that
Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I'm talking about a ruthless
criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also directly
responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered. This ball of
confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph showing a group
of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New York. If they were
burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but these Jews were burning
the flag of Israel.
> To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to rule
the world?), we have the fact that it's been their stated goal for
centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides in that
direction. There's also the disturbing truth that for all practical
purposes, they already do rule the world.
> If this information seems completely absurd to you, it's because
Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing company, and
movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp on your
mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and our
Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand their
influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many of the Masonic
lodges, the "illuminati," and they're also responsible for the spooky
pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New World Order."
That's because the privately owned bank known as the U.S. Federal Reserve,
is owned by Zionists.
> The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters will be
jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to "protect"
us. From that point on we will live as slaves under martial law, and like
any other beast of burden, we'll be allowed to survive if they need us to do
their work for them, but we'll certainly have no reason to live.
> This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World
Order," or "One World Government," or if it's sold with any other
catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its
orchestrators are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their
plans for global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for
controlling the masses in the past, and it's serving their purposes quite
nicely today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of
the world's population can be counted upon to play one part or another. The
scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the Talmud,
the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and in some cases
dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures will most likely
be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
> Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous
world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery, because
we're the last hurdle to jump on the track to global domination. The 9-11
deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a symptom of a
much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in the final stages of
infection. We all need to get the big picture if we want to find a cure.
America has no hope of surviving as anything other than Israel's slave state
unless a massive education project is embarked upon immediately. I thank you
for reading this, and thank you in advance for passing it on. - Jolly Roger
>
> "History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" -
Napoleon Bonaparte
>
> There's plenty of information on Zionism available at
http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still can.
Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God's sake, arm yourself.
America will prevail, but it won't be easy.
>
>
> Anything written by Jolly Roger is the property of the American people,
and the author hereby grants permission to anyone who so desires to post,
print, copy, or distribute this letter in its entirety, and in fact, the
author encourages you to do so. - J.R.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 07:07:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: CREDIBILITY? Scholars for 9/11 Truth, Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-eleven

This serves 911 Doubters of TRUTH who await someone
credible to tell them the truth.

Many must be awaiting a confession from Cheney
himself.
Well, that is not likely to happen.

Others want to hear it from Fox news who are complicit
in the smokescreen and coverup.
That's not going to happen either.

http://st911.org/

20 reasons to question the official story of 9/11

(1) The 9-11 Commission refused to examine the
vast majority of evidence about 9/11, and even the
former director of the FBI says there was a cover up
by the 9/11 Commission

www.newsmax.com
and
www.amazon.com books

(2) USA Today stated that the FBI believed that
bombs in the buildings brought the buildings down

terrorize.dk truck bombs.fbi.jack.kelley.rm

(3) MSNBC stated that police officials believe
"that one of the explosions at the world trade center
. . . may have been caused by a van that was parked in
the building that may have had some kind of explosive
device in it, so their fear is that there may have
been explosive devices planted either in the building
or in the adjacent area"

terrorize.dk police found explosives.wmv

(4) The NY Fire Department Chief of Safety stated
there were "bombs" and "secondary devices", which
caused the explosions in the buildings

terrorize.dk 911.wtc.reporter.1.wmv

(5) NYC firefighters who witnessed attacks stated
that it looked like there were bombs in the buildings.
A NYC firefighter stated "On the last trip up a bomb
went off. We think there was bombs set in the
building"

web.archive.org people special

(6) The head of a national demolition association
stated that the collapse of the towers looked like a
"classic controlled demolition"

www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1281

(7) Eyewitnesses have testified that substantial
explosions occurred well BELOW the area impacted by
the planes, and -- according to some witnesses -- they
occurred BEFORE the plane had even hit

georgewashington.blogspot.com below-belt

(8) A police officer testified that there were
numerous, HUGE explosions at the top of one of the
twin towers 15 minutes apart, before the tower
collapsed

www.thememoryhole.org pa-police-reports04.pdf

(9) Numerous, credible ex-government officials are
warning that the U.S. government might very well
attack its own people to justify a further clampdown
on civil rights and to justify additional wars

georgewashington.blogspot officials warn

(10) The tape of interviews of air traffic
controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally
destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting
the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the
pieces in different trash cans around the building

nytimes.com archive
and
web.archive.org suntimes.com

(11) Investigators for the Congressional Joint
Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted
and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that,
when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant,
the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an
unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official
stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under
orders from the White House

www.buzzflash.coml

(12) A retired Air Force Colonel who flew over 100
combat missions and was the director of the Star Wars
defense program under both Republican and Democratic
administrations (and a member of Scholars for 9/11
Truth) recently said:

"If our government had merely done nothing,
and allowed normal procedures to happen on that
morning of 9/11, the twin towers would still be
standing, and thousands of dead Americans would still
be alive. That is treason!"

www.exerscape.com bowman-interview.mp3

(13) Recently declassified documents show that in
the 1960's, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed
off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an
elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes),
and also committing terrorist murders against U.S.
citizens on American soil, and then blaming it on the
Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba

abcnews.go.com story
and
www.gwu.edu northwoods.pdf

(14) The Secret Service, which is highly trained
to whisk the president away from danger and to a
secure location in the event of a threat, breached all
standard procedures and allowed President Bush to
remain at a highly-publicized location for 25 minutes
after it was known that the nation was under attack

whatreallyhappened.com 9-11secretservice

(15) The U.S. defense agency responsible for
protecting the U.S. had run drills for several years
of planes being used as weapons against the World
Trade Center and other U.S. high-profile buildings,
and "numerous types of civilian and military aircraft
were used as mock hijacked aircraft". In other words,
drills using REAL AIRCRAFT simulating terrorist
attacks crashing jets into buildings, including the
twin towers, were run

usatoday news norad

(16) The military had also conducted drills of
planes crashing into the Pentagon

mdw.army.mil Contingency_Planning_Photos

(17) On the morning of 9/11, 5 war games and
terror drills were being conducted by several U.S.
defense agencies, including one "live fly" exercise
using REAL planes. And the drills apparently included
the injection of false "radar blips" onto the screens
of air traffic controllers

911truth.org article
and
fromthewilderness.com mckinney_transcript
or
spiegltech.com /McKinney2.rm (6 minutes and 12
seconds into the video);
fromthewilderness.com_simplify_case

(18) The government was running a simulation of a
plane crashing into a building on the morning of 9/11

boston.com news_plane_exercise

(19) While the government has consistently stated
that it did not know where the aircraft were before
they struck, the Secretary of Transportation testified
before the 9/11 Commission that Vice President Cheney
monitored flight 77 for many miles as it approached
the Pentagon

911truthmovement.org hamilton_win.wmv

(20) A third world trade center building, called
building 7, collapsed on the afternoon of 9/11, but
was never hit by plane, fell at the same speed as if
there were no floors or walls to cause resistance,
contained only small fires before the collapse, and
became the first steel-frame building in history to
collapse due to fire alone

www.wtc7.net
" (S9/11T) is a non-partisan association of faculty,
students, and scholars, in fields as diverse as
history, science, military affairs, psychology, and
philosophy, dedicated to exposing falsehoods and to
revealing truths behind 9/11.

The members of S9/11T are encouraged to take an active
role by devoting themselves to reporting the results
of research on 9/11 to the nation and the world by
means of lectures, articles, and other venues.

S9/11T members are convinced their research proves the
current administration has been dishonest about what
happened in New York and Washington, D.C.

These experts contend that books and articles by
members and other associates have established that the
World Trade Center was almost certainly brought down
by controlled demolitions and that the available
relevant evidence casts grave doubt on the
government's official story about the attack on the
Pentagon.

They believe that the government not only permitted
9/11 to occur but may even have orchestrated these
events to facilitate its political agenda.

S9/11T encourages its members to vigorously express
their concerns on this score through lectures,
conferences, symposia, articles, and books as well as
other access routes that publicize their findings.

Founded by professors Jim Fetzer and Steven Jones,
S9/11T is devoted to applying the principles of
scientific reasoning to the available evidence,
"letting the chips fall where they may".

Currently, S9/11T has four categories of members: full
members (FM), who have or have had academic
appointments or the equivalent; associate members
(AM), who have backgrounds and interests relevant to
9/11 research; and student members (SM), who are
concerned about these issues and want to pursue them.
The special category of society associate (SA) exists
for others who wish to publicly support the
association.

The presently enrolled members of S9/11T are as
follows:
Full Members

Kevin Barrett (FM)

Folklore, UW-Madison; Director, Khidria, Inc.;
Founding Member, Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for
9/11 Truth, http://www.mujca.com

Philip J. Berg, Esq. (FM)

Attorney at Law, Former Deputy Attorney General,
former candidate for Governor, Lt. Governor, and U.S.
Senate from Pennsylvania, whose web site,
www.911forthetruth.com, covers the RICO lawsuit that
is pending against Bush, Cheney and 53 other
Defendants in Federal Court, Southern District of New
York

Tracy Blevins (FM)

Bioengineering, Rice University

Robert M. Bowman (FM)

Former Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" Space
Defense Program in both Republican and Democratic
administrations, and a former Air Force Lieutenant
Colonel with 101 combat missions

Robert S. Boyer (FM)

Philosophy; Mathematics; Computer Science;
University of Texas, Austin

Clare Brandabur (FM)

Assistant professor of English Literature at Dogus
University in Istanbul

Michiel Brumsen (FM)

Philosophy, Engineering ethics

Andreas von Buelow (FM)

Former assistant German defense minister, director
of the German Secret Service, minister for research
and technology, and member of Parliament for 25 years

Harriet Cianci (FM)

Tunxis Community College, CT

William A. Cook (FM)

Professor of English, University of La Verne,
Author of "Tracking Deception: Bush Mid-East Policy"

Richard Curtis (FM)

Philosophy, Seattle University

Duane M. Davis (FM)

Literary Theory; Modern Literature; Creative
Writing; Selkirk College, B.C.

Lloyd DeMause (FM)

Director of The Institute for Psychohistory,
President of the International Psychohistorical
Association and Editor of The Journal of Psychohistory

Alexander L. Dent (FM)

Microbiology and Immunology, Indiana University
School of Medicine

A. K. Dewdney (FM)

Mathematician, Computer Scientist, University of
Western Ontario

Albert Dragstedt (FM)

Classics and Philosophy, St. Mary's College,
Oakland, CA

Ted Elden (FM)

Architect, Communicator

Jeffrey Farrer (FM)

Physics/ Materials Science, BYU

James H. Fetzer (FM)

Distinguished McKnight University Professor of
Philosophy at the University of Minnesota, Duluth, a
former Marine Corps officer, author or editor of more
than 20 books, and co-chair of S9/11T

Marcus Ford (FM)

Humanities, NAU

Ruth Frankenberg (FM)

American Studies, Cultural Studies, Author of four
books

David Gabbard (FM)

Curriculum & Instruction College of Education East
Carolina University

Daniele Ganser (FM)

Historian, Basel University, Switzerland

David Ray Griffin (FM)

Emeritus Professor of Philosophy of Religion &
Theology, Claremont School of Theology & Claremont
Graduate University, Author or editor of some 30
books, including "The New Pearl Harbor" and "The 9/11
Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions"

Derrick P. Grimmer (FM)

Physics, Alternative energy

David Hawkins (FM)

Forensic economics, Joint-venture enterprise,
Management and network design

Bruce R. Henry (FM)

Mathematics, Worcester State College

Timothy Howells (FM)

Computer Science, Medical Software, Akademiska
Sjukhuset

Brady L. Hutchison (FM)

American legal history, Constitutional history,
Rice University, San Jacinto College South

Dillon K. Inouye (FM)

Instructional Psychology and Technology, Brigham
Young University

Don "Four Arrows" Jacobs (FM)

Former Dean of Education, Oglala Lakota College
and currently professor of educational leadership at
Fielding Graduate University and at Northern Arizona
University

Andrew Johnson (FM)

Physics, Computer Science, Software Engineering

Steven Jones (FM)

Professor of Physics, Brigham Young University,
co-chair of S9/11T and the creator of its home page
and its forum

Michael Keefer (FM)

English and theatre, University of Guelph

Stephen F. LeRoy (FM)

Professor of Economics, University of California,
Santa Barbara

Davidson Loehr (FM)

Theology; Philosophy of science; Philosophy of
religion

Richard McGinn (FM)

Associate Professor Emeritus of Linguistics and
Southeast Asian Studies, Ohio University. Former chair
of Linguistics (10 years) and Director of Southeast
Asian Studies (4 years) at Ohio University

John McMurtry, Ph.D. (FM)

Professor of Philosophy, University Professor
Emeritus Elect, University of Guelph, Fellow of the
Royal Society of Canada, and the author of six books
dealing with public policy issues

Scott Meredith (FM)

Oriental languages; Theoretical linguistics;
Computational linguistics

Robert Merrill (FM)

Literature and Humanities; Maryland Institute
College of Art; Editor, Maisonneuve Press

Ted Micceri (FM)

Statistical Research, Planning and Analysis,
University of South Florida

Michael Morrissey (FM)

English as a Foreign Language, University of
Kassel, Germany

Raymond Munro (FM)

Professor of Theatre, Clark University

George Nelson (FM)

Colonel, USAF (retired)

Jesus Nieto (FM)

College of Education, San Diego State University

Daniel Orr (FM)

Professor Emeritus, Department of Economics,
University of Illinois

Matthew Orr (FM)

Population Biology, Evolution and Ecology,
University of Oregon "Is the War on Terror
Fraudulent?"

Peter Phillips (FM)

Sociology Department, Sonoma State University,
Global Dominance Research, www.projectcensored.org

Jean-Pierre Petit (FM)

Aeronautics, astrophysics, engineering

Diana Ralph (FM)

Associate Professor Carleton University School of
Social Work. Author of Work and Madness: The Rise of
Community Psychiatry

Joseph Raso (FM)

Political Science, Comparative and International
Politics, State-sponsored terrorism

Paul W. Rea (FM)

Humanities, St. Mary's College, CA, Author of
"Still Seeking the Truth about 9/11"

Morgan Reynolds (FM)

Texas A & M Professor Emeritus of Economics,
former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor for
President George W. Bush, and former Director of the
Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for
Policy Analysis

Karen Rice (FM)

Associate Professor, Western Washington University
Libraries

David Sprintzen (FM)

Professor Emeritus of Philosophy, Long Island
Progressive Coalition, Citizen Action of New York

Morgan Stack (FM)

Accounting, Finance & Information Systems,
University College Cork (UCC), Ireland. Co-founder of
the Irish 9/11 Truth Movement

Webster Griffin Tarpley (FM)

President, Washington Grove Institute
Government-sponsored terror, Author, "9/11 Synthetic
Terror"

Constance De Vereaux (FM)

Philosophy and political science, Program in Arts
Management, Shenandoah University

Lon Waters (FM)

High performance computing Software engineering
Sandia National Laboratory

Carl Weis (FM)

Associate Professor of Creative Arts, Siena
College, retired

Richard Welser (FM)

Psychology, Neuropsychology, Philosophy of Science

Judy Wood (FM)

Mechanical Engineering, Clemson University

William Woodward (FM)

Psychology, Political Psychology, University of
New Hampshire

Associate Members

Sterling D. Allan (AM)

New Energy Congress, Founder, PES Network, Inc,
Executive Director

Garry Anaquod (AM)

Sessional instructor, First Nations University of
Canada

James Arft (AM)

America First Party

Victoria Ashley (AM)

Architecture and physiological psychology,
911research.wtc7.net

Gwendolyn Atwood (AM)

Clinical psychologist, Ed.D., Harvard University

John C. Austin (AM)

Juris Doctorate; Music publishing; Radio
broadcasting

Steve Baer (AM)

Solar energy, Manufacturing

David Benson (AM)

Actor; Conspiracy Theories; Edinburgh Fringe
Festival

Mark S. Bilk (AM)

Computer programmer; Electronics
technician/engineer; http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911

Len Bracken (AM)

Credentialed Journalist
Graduate of GWU's Elliott School of International
Affairs
Author of "Shadow Government: 9/11 and State
Terror"

Jordan Brewster (AM)

Conspiracies

James Roger Brown (AM)

Director, The Sociology Center; Congressional
Evidence Book Author

Fred Burks (AM)

Served for many years as a language interpreter
for presidents and other dignitaries.
www.WantToKnow.info/911information

John Cameron (AM)

American politics

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Webmaster, groups.yahoo.com/group/wrh/

Frank Carmen (AM)

Physics Ph.D., BYU

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Attorney.

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Freelance Writer, Motivational Speaker

Michael Gass (AM)

Air Force Explosive Ordnance, Disposal Specialist,
Bomb disposal technician

Russ Gerst (AM)

Mathematics, Certified Public Accountant

Kenyon Gibson (AM)

Former US Naval Intelligence, author of "Common
Sense: A Study of the Bushes, the CIA and the
Suspicions Regarding 9/11" (2003, in Arabic) and of
"Hemp for Victory" (2006)

Gordon Ginn (AM)

Motives behind attack

Sean Glazier (AM)

Software engineering

Rick Guerard (AM)

Journeyman ironworker, Industrial maintenance

Dan Hamburg (AM)

Former US Representative; Author, Headwaters
Forest Act; Executive Director, VOTE Action Committee

Jesse Hemingway (AM)

Author of "Friendly Fire on Holy Grounds"

Eric Hermanson (AM)

Engineering Physics, Nuclear Engineering, Software
Architect

James F. Holwell (AM)

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mathematics

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WTC album, Singer and songwriter

Alan Keightley (AM)

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Peter Kirsh (AM)

Forensic pathologist

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Editor, Freelance writer, Critical care
respiratory therapy

Rebecca R. Kline (AM)

Teacher, Journalist

Paul Landis (AM)

Industrial engineering, Author of "A Real 9/11
Commission"

Spero Larres (AM)

Physics and Mathematics, Rutgers University

Frank Legge (AM)

Chemistry, Solar Track Pty Ltd., Logical Systems
Consulting

Greg Lemon (AM)

Animation, Simulation, Special Effects

Davidson Loehr (AM)

Minister

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Attorney

Greg Lopreato (AM)

Senior Research Scientist

Regan MacBannon-Mason (AM)

Vocational rehabilitation counseling

Wayne Madsen (AM)

Investigative journalist and syndicated columnist,
a former communications security analyst with NSA and
a former intelligence officer in the USMC and a Senior
Fellow of the Electronic Privacy Information Center

Michael Maguire (AM)

Mechanical engineering, Aeronatutical engineering,
Prognostic Health Monitoring

Gene Maier (AM)

Corporate controller

George Marinakis (AM)

Patent attorney

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9/11 Researcher/Activist

David Masdon (AM)

Electrical Engineering

Brad Mayeux (AM)

RF Engineering, 911review.org

David McGowan (AM)

Author and lecturer

Scott Meredith (AM)

Theoretical Linguistics, High technology 21 years

Peter Meyer (AM)

Computational physics, computer programmer,
software developer, creator of the Serendipity web
site (www.serendipity.li) and of the Hermetic Systems
web site (www.hermetic.ch)

Paul Andrew Mitchell (AM)

Federal witness; Criminal investigator; Private
attorney general

Dennis "galen" Mitrzyk (AM)

Physics and math, Business administration

Aidan Monaghan (AM)

Electronics engineering,
www.explosive911analysis.com

Robert Moore (AM)

Attorney, Member, Connecticut Pro Bono Network

Jeff Moskin (AM)

Private pilot, Electronics engineer, Certified
flight instructor

Ted Muga (AM)

Naval aviator; Commercial pilot; Structural
engineering

Nicholas Newton (AM)

Astrophysics, Simulation Models

Alfons Olszewski (AM)

Webmaster, www.freedomisforeverybody.org

Ralph Omholt (AM)

Technical writer

Don Paul (AM)

Author of "9/11:Facing Our Fascist State" (2002)
and co-author with Jim Hoffman of "9/11: Great Crimes,
a Greater Cover-up" (2003) and "Waking Up from Our
Nightmare: The 9/11/01 Crimes in New York City" (2004)

Tom Pinto (AM)

Information systems analyst

Joe Plummer (AM)

http://StopTheLie.com

Chris Poate (AM)

Carpenter, Contractor, Cabinetmaker

Benjamin Pritchard (AM)

Software Engineer, 911TruthEmergence.com

Michael Provost (AM)

Independent film maker

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Biology, Chemistry, Dentistry

Craig Ranke (AM)

9/11 researcher/activist

Paul Robins (AM)

Electronics, Aerospace products

Marnia Robinson (AM)

Author; Former corporate attorney

Gordon Ross (AM)

Mechanical engineering, Production engineering

Kevin Ryan (AM)

Former Site Manager for Environmental Health
Laboratories, a division of Underwriters Laboratories

Nila Sagedevan (AM)

Pilot, Aeronautical engineer

Daniel Schnizing (AM)

Author

E. Martin Schotz (AM)

Psychiatrist, Citizen Historian

Dave Short (AM)

Volunteer fireman, Emergency medical technician

Rick Siegel (AM)

www.911eyewitness.com
www.911eyewitness.com/truth

Jimmy Smith (AM)

Communications Engineering

Paul Smith (AM)

Electronics engineer

Leonard Spencer (AM)

Twin Towers Attack, The Pentagon Attack,
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Deanna Spingola (AM)

Author/Writer, Renew America, News with Views

Glenn Stanish (AM)

Airline Pilot, Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA),
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Jacob G. Stansbury, Jr. (AM)

FSLIC and FDIC; members.cox.net/damor1/

Stephen M. St. John (AM)

Author, A Peace Proposal for Greater Jerusalem

Harry Stottle (AM)

Philosopher, Author, Computer Consultant,
Inventor. IT Director of the Codel Project. Specialist
in authentication and related issues.

Soren Stoutner (AM)

Computer Consulting, System Administrator,
Technology Specialist

Coco Tralla (AM)

Writer, Speaker, Publisher, Distributor

Paul Tuffery (AM)

Film maker, Videographer, Computer technician

Tom Tvedten (AM)

Family Physician; Medical School instructor;
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Diane Verkler (AM)

Art director, Former prosecutor, Background in law

H. Chris Videll (AM)

Accountant, Financial analyst

Brad Waddell (AM)

DVD producer, Question911.com

Jack White (AM)

Photoanalyst

Edgar Williams (AM)

Statistics, Computer Science, Database Management

Larry Winfrey (AM)

Network engineer

Ian Woods (AM)

Publisher and Editor of Global Outlook (the
Magazine of 9/11 Truth); president of S.I.F.T. -
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Student Members

James Booker (SM)

History; University of York, Toronto

Danielle Celeste (SM)

Psychology, History and Politics, Propaganda and
its dissemination

Aaron Deakins (SM)

Anthropology and Political Science, Eastern
Michigan University

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S.P.I.N.E. : The Scientific Panel Investigating
Nine-Eleven

http://www.physics911.net/

Members of the Scientific Panel Investigating
Nine-eleven come from a variety of professional
backgrounds. Some investigate aspects of the 9/11
attacks, others search the web for useful information,
and some write up new material. We have tried to
maintain professional standards in both the analysis
and presentation of the evidence we have assembled, as
well as in the scenarios we have constructed.

General Statement by the Panel:

"We have found solid scientific grounds on
which to question the interpretation put upon the
events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the
President of the United States of America and
subsequently propagated by the major media of western
nations. Our analysis of the detailed evidence implies
a staged attack employing a variety of deceptive
arrangements. Indeed, every element of the September
11 attacks, including cellphone calls from fast-moving
aircraft, has an alternate means of creation."

Panel members are scientists, engineers, and
other professionals. All contribute through search and
research. Members of S.P.I.N.E. may be contacted by
clicking here and entering the name of the member
you'd like to contact, along with a brief message.

Members:

Robert Ballan
Norwood, NY, USA

MSc & JD: Clarkson College
Chemistry & Law
Kevin Barrett
Lone Rock WI, USA
PhD U of Wisconsin
Islamic Studies
Walter Davis
Kent, OH, USA

PhD: U of Connecticut
Kinesiology
A. K. Dewdney
London, Canada

PhD: U of Waterloo
Mathematics
Frank R. Greening
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
PhD McMaster
Physical Chemistry
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Derrick Grimmer
Ames, IA, USA

PhD: Washington University
Physics
David Heller
Berkeley, CA

BS: Physics Bard College
MA: S. F. Inst. Architecture
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Timothy P. Howell
Upsala, Sweden

PhD: U. of Edinburgh
Computer Science
Steven E. Jones
Provo, Utah

PhD: Vanderbilt University
Physicist, Brigham Young U.
Joseph M. Keith
Tustin, CA, USA

BSE: California State University at LA
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Peter J. Kirsch
Western Cape, South Africa

MD: University of Witwatersrand
Forensic Pathology
Jerry Longspaugh
Fort Worth, TX, USA

MSc: Brooklyn Polytechnic
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Brad Mayeaux
Kenner, LA, USA

Electr. &Tech. Inst. of New Orleans
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Huntsville, AL, USA

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Kirkland, WA, USA

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Arkansas, USA

PhD: U of Wisconsin
former Chief Economist,
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Bloomington, IN, USA

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Chemistry
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Laguna Hills, CA, USA

HBS U. of Edinburgh.
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Eastbourne, Great Britain

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MI5 (former)
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Perth, Australia

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Biology
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Tallahassee, FL, USA

MS Florida State
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Gregory Zeigler
New Mexico, USA

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Military Intelligence

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Towaco, NJ, USA

BA: Kean University
Science Education
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Oxford High School
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Web Designer

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:23:08 -0000
From: "Ray Antoky" <rayantoky@aol.com>
Subject: Jew Baiting

Eastman is the consummate disinformation artist who has the effrontery
to blame Jews and the mossad for 9/11. His smoking gun is the dancing
Israelis on the rooftop, a classic ploy by the perps to incriminate
Jews as patsies. Then he has the nerve to imply that no Jews died at
the WTC.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/bottom/specialcontent.php3?artid=365
Wrong again as the above article indicates.
And Jolly Roger is also wrong. While there may be Jewish people
involved in crime there are also other ethnic groups involved in crime.
Blaming a whole group of people for the crimes of a few is
disingenuous.It seems this group exists as a Jew bashing forum which is
not the implication of its title.
Maybe Eastman should start his own group. He will surely find kindred
spirits to succumb to his brand of lunacy.
Ray Antoky
Brooklyn and Jewish

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:28:18 -0000
From: "MarshaMcClelland" <mofmars3@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: "SOS>>> "Save Our Selves">>>The Big Picture...Please Forward Everywhere

"SOS>>> "Save Our Selves">>>The Big Picture...Please Forward
Everywhere

April 8, 2006

The Big Picture

by "Jolly Roger"

At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American
who
invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they're just
figuring
that out now, they're throwing stones from a glass house. Of course
he's an idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs
of
intelligence, evil actions couldn't be repeatedly passed off
as "failures"
or "bungling." If the president were intelligent and scholarly,
people
would question why he's completely incompetent, but because he's an
obvious buffoon, many people accept that as the reason everything's
going
horribly wrong. It's also a lot less distressing to believe that
your
government is incompetent rather than know that they're evil, and
most
people will cling to that comfort. The real problem is that if
people
blame Bush's idiocy for our troubles, they probably also think that
the
solution would be to get him out of office, but if they think we'll
be
saved by "Hillary in '08," or any other politician, they're even
slower
than Bush.
Regardless of who's occupying the White House, there has never been
an
idiot running this country. There's simply too much power and money
at
stake for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an
idiot,
and there doesn't seem to be too much debate on that issue
concerning
Dubya, he's only in the White House because someone else has firm
control over him. Someone somewhere is flipping through the Bush-
Gannon photo
album, and that person has a lot more control over the fate of this
nation than our "president" does.
Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn't
being
run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The
answer
is that it's going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the
erroneous assumption that this country is being run by people who
are
acting in the interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from
the
truth. Instead of accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a
lousy
president, please try to think in terms of Bush's "boss" being
someone
other than the American people, and his "job" as being to grab as
much
cash as he can for himself and his friends before driving this
country
into the ground. If you look at his presidency in that light, you
can
instantly see that he's doing a marvelous job, and he's the best
"president" an enemy nation could ever hope to see in the White
House.
The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is
being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both
political
parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading
memories, the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper,"
and the
election process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped
overseas, the economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped,
the Army is
"broken," the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being
dissolved, and every dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being
looted,
is already gone. With the entire nation and its population deep in
debt, crashing the economy is a simple matter of raising interest
rates,
which will allow the bankers to once again scoop up all mortgaged
property, and force its inhabitants out into the street.
The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this
country
that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do
they
benefit from destroying a country they control?"
To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question,
ask
yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he
shows undying financial, political, and military support for Israel.
Whose enemies are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why
did
Ariel Sharon say "Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?"
Don't
you think it's a bit strange that an American president said "I'd
die
for Israel," after dodging the draft when America was at war? The
Israelis are in firm control of most American politicians, and AIPAC
insures
that any politician who doesn't support Israel, is not re-elected.
The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by
destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is
only a
stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be
possible without first destroying America, because America intact
would
present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty
goals. Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing
the
economy to crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth
in the
planet's history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve,
have
instigated this horror many times in the past, most recently in
1929,
when they made a killing by triggering the great depression.
If you're still following this madness, you've noticed I'm
suggesting
that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the
destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to
rule
the world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little
far-fetched, but it happens to be strongly supported by
documentation,
historic precedent, and much of what's happening today.
Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making
sense
of this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why
would
I think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one,
Israel was created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them.
Zionism
is a political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land,
and
although this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving
it
have killed millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of
horrifying. Although most of the world recognizes Israel as
a "Jewish state,"
what most people don't know is that in Israel, there is widespread
discrimination against many Jews, and this discrimination is carried
out,
oddly enough, by other Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist
Jews.
Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of
people
the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this
division,
we need to know something of their history. On one side of the
division
are Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes
cast
out of the holy land as per the story most people are familiar with,
and
on the other side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are
of a
different origin. Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars,
who
occupied what is known today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very
war-like people who became a very powerful nation, and their king
decided
out of political convenience that his pagan population would
suddenly
become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers were imported, and the national
conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven hundred years later, they
would be
driven into eastern Europe by the Mongols.
Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to
remain
in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy
land, but it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction
of
Ashkenazi Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the
holy land
without divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than
waiting around for one.
To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the
many
varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States
demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted
differently by
different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction
makes
it very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the
world. Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon
the
world by Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit
more
closely. When we do, we discover that this one small group of people
has
been responsible for most of the world's problems over the last
century, and have unspeakable horrors planned for our future.
It's important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that
Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I'm talking about a
ruthless criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also
directly responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered.
This ball
of confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph
showing a
group of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New
York.
If they were burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but
these
Jews were burning the flag of Israel.
To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to
rule
the world?), we have the fact that it's been their stated goal for
centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides
in that
direction. There's also the disturbing truth that for all practical
purposes, they already do rule the world.
If this information seems completely absurd to you, it's because
Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing
company, and
movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp
on
your mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and
our
Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand
their influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many
of the
Masonic lodges, the "illuminati," and they're also responsible for
the
spooky pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New
World Order." That's because the privately owned bank known as the
U.S.
Federal Reserve, is owned by Zionists.
The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters
will
be jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to
"protect" us. From that point on we will live as slaves under
martial law,
and like any other beast of burden, we'll be allowed to survive if
they
need us to do their work for them, but we'll certainly have no
reason
to live.
This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World
Order," or "One World Government," or if it's sold with any other
catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its
orchestrators
are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their plans for
global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for
controlling
the masses in the past, and it's serving their purposes quite nicely
today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of
the
world's population can be counted upon to play one part or another.
The
scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the
Talmud, the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and
in some
cases dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures
will
most likely be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous
world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery,
because we're the last hurdle to jump on the track to global
domination. The
9-11 deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a
symptom of a much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in
the
final stages of infection. We all need to get the big picture if we
want
to find a cure. America has no hope of surviving as anything other
than
Israel's slave state unless a massive education project is embarked
upon immediately. I thank you for reading this, and thank you in
advance
for passing it on. - Jolly Roger

"History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" -

Napoleon Bonaparte

There's plenty of information on Zionism available at
http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still
can. Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God's sake,
arm
yourself. America will prevail, but it won't be easy.

Anything written by Jolly Roger is the property of the American
people,
and the author hereby grants permission to anyone who so desires to
post, print, copy, or distribute this letter in its entirety, and in
fact,
the author encourages you to do so. - J.R.

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 08:05:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: mann david <dmann51@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dick Eastman and "The Jews"

OK - Who in this world doesn't know the distinction
between the the Jews and their historic betrayer, the
Zionists ?? Answer - only the "Clash of Civilization"
operatives and their apparently unwitting accomplices
- e.g., Dick Eastmans. True, many Jews have been
"brought up" (brainwashed) to support Israel. For that
intellectual and moral slovenliness their will be a
price to pay.
But I would suggest to Eastman that he take a break
from further posting and do some reading. How about
some wonderful (Jewish) authors who have been fighting
for decades to actually expose and destroy the Zionist
Imperialist Fraud. (As opposed to his brand of lame
bigotry and ignorant ranting.)
"Hidden History of Zionism" - Ralph Shoenman -
http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/hidden_history_of_zionism.html

Zionism in the Age of the Dictators - Brenner
http://www.vho.org/aaargh/engl/zad/zad8.html

--- Dick Eastman <de1949@nwinfo.net> wrote:

> No other interest group power is powerful enough,
> dominant enough, pervasive enough to have pulled off
> 9-11.
>
> Who controls the Pentagon? Who controls the White
> House? Who controls the media? WHo has Mossad? And
> who but ADL is up and ready for internet opinion
> management?
>
> But we already knew this from the hard evidence.
>
> Dick Eastman
> Yakima, Washington
> http://bedoper.com/eastman
>
>
> ------------
>
>
>

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:39:59 -0000
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
Subject: \hy Moussaoui confession doesn't add up! tvnl news

9/11 News : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#911

· Briefing: why Moussaoui confession doesn't add up - Daniel McGrory,a
Times expert on al-Qaeda, examines the inconsistencies behind Zacarias
Moussaoui's confession that he was part of the 9/11 plot

· Loose Change Viewing at the University of Buffalo - Loose Change
will be premiering in AT LEAST 300 movie theatres this September

· Study: 9/11 escapees have health problems - A majority of survivors
of the 2001 attacks that destroyed the World Trade Center suffered
from respiratory ailments and depression, anxiety and other
psychological problems up to three years later, federal health
officials said Friday.

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 08:51:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: Mexican Government's guide to illegal immigration

Mexican Government's guide to illegal immigration
Guide for the Mexican Migrant

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Guide for the Mexican Migrant
Distributed by the Mexican Ministry of Foreign Relations
View the Spanish language original here.

INTRODUCTION
Esteemed Countryman:
The purpose of this guide is to provide you with practical advice that may prove useful to you in case you have made the difficult decision to search for employment opportunities outside of your country.
The sure way to enter another country is by getting your passport from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the visa, which you may apply for at the embassy or consulate of the country you wish to travel to.

However, in practice we see many Mexicans who try to cross the Northern Border without the necessary documents, through high risk zones that involve grave dangers, particularly in desert areas or rivers with strong, and not always obvious, currents.
Reading this guide will make you aware of some basic questions about the legal consequences of your stay in the United States of America without the appropriate migratory documents, as well as about the rights you have in that country, once you are there, independent of your migratory status.
Keep in mind always that there exist legal mechanisms to enter the United States of America legally.
In any case, if you encounter problems or run into difficulties, remember that Mexico has 45 consulates in that country whose locations you can find listed in this publication.

Familiarize yourself with the closest consulate and make use of it.
DANGERS IN CROSSING HIGH RISK ZONES
To cross the river can be very risky, above all if you cross alone and at night.
Heavy clothing increases in weight when wet and this makes swimming and floating difficult.

If you cross by desert, try to walk at times when the heat will not be too intense.
Highways and population centers are far apart, which means you will spend several days looking for roads, and you will not be able to carry foodstuffs or water for long periods of time. Also, you can get lost.


Salt water helps keep liquids in your body. Although you may feel more thirst if you drink salt water, the risk of dehydration is much less.
The symptoms of dehydration are:
—Little or no sweat.
—Dryness in the eyes and in the mouth.
—Headache.
—Tiredness and excessive exhaustion.
—Difficulty in walking and thinking.
—Hallucinations and visions.
If you get lost, guide yourself by lightposts, train tracks, or dirt roads.

BEWARE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKERS (COYOTES, POLLEROS)
They can deceive you with assurances of crossing in a few hours through the mountains and deserts. This is simply not so!
They can risk your life taking you across rivers, drainage canals, desert areas, train tracks, or highways. This has caused the death of hundreds of persons.

If you decide to hire people traffickers to cross the border, consider the following precautions:
Do not let them out of your sight. Remember that they are the only ones who know the lay of the land, and therefore the only ones who can get you out of that place.

Do not trust those who offer to take you to “the other side” and ask you to drive a car or to take or carry a package for them. Normally, those packages contain drugs or other prohibited substances. For this reason, many people have ended up in jail.

If you transport other persons, you can be confused with a human trafficker, and they can accuse you of the crime of trafficking or auto theft.
Do not entrust your minor children to strangers who offer to take them across to the United States.
DO NOT USE FALSE DOCUMENTS
DO NOT USE FALSE DOCUMENTS OR THOSE THAT DO NOT BELONG TO YOU, NOR DECLARE A FALSE NATIONALITY.
If you try to cross with false documents or those of another person, take into account the following:
To use false documents or those of another person is a federal crime in the United States, for which you can be tried in a criminal proceeding and end up in jail; likewise if you use a false name or say that you are a citizen of the United States when you are not one.
Do not lie to officials of the United States at ports and points of entry.

IF YOU ARE ARRESTED

Do not resist arrest.
Do not assault or insult officials.
Do not throw rocks or objects at officials or at patrols since this is considered a provocation by those officials.


If they believe themselves to be under attack, it is likely that they will use force to arrest you.
Raise your hands slowly so that they see you are not armed.
Do not have in your hands any object that could be considered a weapon such as spotlights, screwdrivers, pocket knives, knives, or rocks.
Do not run or try to escape.
Do not hide in dangerous places.
Do not cross high-speed highways.
It is better to be arrested for a few hours and repatriated to Mexico than to get lost in the desert.

IF THEY ARREST YOU, YOU HAVE RIGHTS!
Give your real name.
If you are a minor accompanied by an adult, tell the authorities so they do not separate you.

Your rights are:
To know where you are.
To ask that they allow you to contact a representative of the closest Mexican consulate for assistance.

Not to make statements or to sign documents, above all if they are in English, without the advise of a defense lawyer or Mexican consular representative.

To receive medical attention if you are injured or in delicate health.
To be respected in your person and to receive dignified treatment without regard to your migratory status.
To have safe transport.
To have food and water whenever you need it.
You are not obligated to state your migratory status at the time of arrest.
You have the right not to be beaten or insulted.

Not to be held incommunicado.
In case they take away your things, ask for a receipt so that you can claim them upon release.
It is important that you inform your lawyer or Mexican consular representative who visits you of any infringement of these rights. Also inform the closest office of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Mexico.
If you want more information and you live in Texas or the city of Acuña, Coahuila, tune in to “La Poderosa” (The Powerful) at 1570 AM.

IN CASE OF ARREST
If you are sentenced for a crime or you are jailed and facing a criminal proceeding, you have the following rights:
Not to be discriminated against by the police, the courts, or prison officials.
To receive visits by Mexican consular personnel and members of your family.
To receive legal representation without conditions and obstacles.

“Laws.”
If you are facing a criminal proceeding and you have not yet been sentenced, ask your lawyer or consular representative about pleading guilty.
Do not declare yourself guilty without first consulting your lawyer about the chances of winning your case.
It is important that you know the laws of the state where you live and work since the laws in each one are different. Consider the following advice:
If you drink, do not drive, since if you do not have documents, you can be arrested and deported.
If a legal resident is convicted more than twice for drinking under the influence, he can be deported.
Do not drive without a drivers license.
Respect traffic laws and use your seatbelt.
Do not drive without insurance and do not agree to drive a stranger’s car.
Do not let strangers into your car.
If when driving, you commit a traffic infraction and you are stopped by the police, place your hands on the steering wheel and do not get out of the car until the officer requests that you do so.

Avoid calling attention to yourself while you normalize your stay or process your documents to live in the United States.

The best way is not to change your routine of going from your job to your home.

Avoid noisy parties. The neighbors can get annoyed and call the police, and you can be arrested.
Avoid getting involved in fights.
If you go to a bar or night club, and a fight starts, leave, since in the confusion you could be arrested even though you have done anything.
Avoid family or domestic violence. As in Mexico, it is a crime in the United States.
Domestic violence is not only physical, but it also includes threats, screaming, and ill-treatment.
If you are accused of domestic violence against your children, spouse, or some other person who lives with you, you could go to jail. In addition, the Child Protective Service could take away your children.
Do not carry firearms, knives, or other dangerous objects.
Keep in mind that many Mexicans are dead or in prison for that.
If the police enter your house or apartment, do not resist. However, ask for a proper warrant. It is better to cooperate and to seek to communicate with the closest Mexican consulate.
“Search Warrant.”
CONSULATES
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has 45 consular offices in the Interior and on the Southern Border of the United States of America whose function is to help you. Remember, if you have been arrested or are serving a prison term, you have the right to communicate with the closest Mexican Consulate.
Always carry your Consular Protection Guide.
Stay close to the Consulate.
Stay close to Mexico.
It is your home, Countryman!

MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS General Directorate of Protection and Consular Affairs




http://www.americanpatrol.com/AID_ABET/MEXICO/MexiBookTranslation.html

http://www.amren.com/mexguide/mexguide.html

http://www.vdare.com/bevens/050103_mexican.htm

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 08:51:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: 9/11 Info Resource Series

Note: forwarded message attached.

"There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken

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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:16:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Big Picture

I never said 9-11 was a Jewish plot - only that Israel had a hand in it, which I believe is quite proven by the Mossad agents that were caught filming the event, and the fact that their van showed evidence of having had contained explosives. What I did imply is that 9-11 was part of a much bigger Zionist plot, and I happen believe 99% of all Jews know nothing of it. Most Jews are just as much victims of this as gentiles, and in the past have suffered greatly at the hands of the Zionists. I tried to make the distinction between Jews, Israel, and Zionism as clear as possible, but it seems there's no way to mention these things without being accused of Jew bashing.

greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote: Sorry to say Jolly, but you are losing your way IMHO. The alleged zionist conspiracy being at the bottom of it all is ridiculously simplistic. Yes there is some element of Israeli interest at play on the world's stage, but to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is not correct. Most of the evil unfolding before us, 9/11 included, is the result of calculating businessmen. The private miltitary contractors, oil, and finance are the big players. All this 'dem Joos did it' at Truth Action is really bringing down the intent and quality of the alleged activist forum.

Greg Nixon

Jolly Roger <removingheads@yahoo.com> wrote:
At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American who invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they’re just figuring that out now, they’re throwing stones from a glass house. Of course he’s an idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs of intelligence, evil actions couldn’t be repeatedly passed off as "failures" or "bungling." If the president were intelligent and scholarly, people would question why he’s completely incompetent, but because he’s an obvious buffoon, many people accept that as the reason everything’s going horribly wrong. It’s also a lot less distressing to believe that your government is incompetent rather than know that they’re evil, and most people will cling to that comfort. The real problem is that if people blame Bush’s idiocy for our troubles, they probably also think that the solution would be to get him out of office, but if they think we’ll be saved by "Hillary in ‘08," or any other politician, they’re
even slower than Bush.
Regardless of who’s occupying the White House, there has never been an idiot running this country. There’s simply too much power and money at stake for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an idiot, and there doesn’t seem to be too much debate on that issue concerning Dubya, he’s only in the White House because someone else has firm control over him. Someone somewhere is flipping through the Bush-Gannon photo album, and that person has a lot more control over the fate of this nation than our "president" does.
Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn’t being run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The answer is that it’s going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the erroneous assumption that this country is being run by people who are acting in the interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from the truth. Instead of accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a lousy president, please try to think in terms of Bush’s "boss" being someone other than the American people, and his "job" as being to grab as much cash as he can for himself and his friends before driving this country into the ground. If you look at his presidency in that light, you can instantly see that he’s doing a marvelous job, and he’s the best "president" an enemy nation could ever hope to see in the White House.
The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both political parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading memories, the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper," and the election process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped overseas, the economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped, the Army is "broken," the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being dissolved, and every dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being looted, is already gone. With the entire nation and its population deep in debt, crashing the economy is a simple matter of raising interest rates, which will allow the bankers to once again scoop up all mortgaged property, and force its inhabitants out into the street.
The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this country that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do they benefit from destroying a country they control?"
To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question, ask yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he shows undying financial, political, and military support for Israel. Whose enemies are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why did Ariel Sharon say "Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?" Don’t you think it’s a bit strange that an American president said "I’d die for Israel," after dodging the draft when America was at war? The Israelis are in firm control of most American politicians, and AIPAC insures that any politician who doesn’t support Israel, is not re-elected.
The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is only a stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be possible without first destroying America, because America intact would present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty goals. Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing the economy to crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth in the planet’s history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve, have instigated this horror many times in the past, most recently in 1929, when they made a killing by triggering the great depression.
If you’re still following this madness, you’ve noticed I’m suggesting that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to rule the world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little far-fetched, but it happens to be strongly supported by documentation, historic precedent, and much of what’s happening today.
Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making sense of this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why would I think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one, Israel was created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them. Zionism is a political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land, and although this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving it have killed millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of horrifying. Although most of the world recognizes Israel as a "Jewish state," what most people don’t know is that in Israel, there is widespread discrimination against many Jews, and this discrimination is carried out, oddly enough, by other Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist Jews.
Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of people the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this division, we need to know something of their history. On one side of the division are Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes cast out of the holy land as per the story most people are familiar with, and on the other side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are of a different origin. Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars, who occupied what is known today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very war-like people who became a very powerful nation, and their king decided out of political convenience that his pagan population would suddenly become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers were imported, and the national conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven hundred years later, they would be driven into eastern Europe by the Mongols.
Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to remain in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy land, but it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction of Ashkenazi Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the holy land without divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than waiting around for one.
To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the many varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted differently by different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction makes it very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the world. Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon the world by Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit more closely. When we do, we discover that this one small group of people has been responsible for most of the world’s problems over the last century, and have unspeakable horrors planned for our future.
It’s important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I’m talking about a ruthless criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also directly responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered. This ball of confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph showing a group of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New York. If they were burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but these Jews were burning the flag of Israel.
To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to rule the world?), we have the fact that it’s been their stated goal for centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides in that direction. There’s also the disturbing truth that for all practical purposes, they already do rule the world.
If this information seems completely absurd to you, it’s because Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing company, and movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp on your mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and our Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand their influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many of the Masonic lodges, the "illuminati," and they’re also responsible for the spooky pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New World Order." That’s because the privately owned bank known as the U.S. Federal Reserve, is owned by Zionists.
The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters will be jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to "protect" us. From that point on we will live as slaves under martial law, and like any other beast of burden, we’ll be allowed to survive if they need us to do their work for them, but we’ll certainly have no reason to live.
This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World Order," or "One World Government," or if it’s sold with any other catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its orchestrators are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their plans for global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for controlling the masses in the past, and it’s serving their purposes quite nicely today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of the world’s population can be counted upon to play one part or another. The scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the Talmud, the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and in some cases dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures will most likely be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery, because we’re the last hurdle to jump on the track to global domination. The 9-11 deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a symptom of a much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in the final stages of infection. We all need to get the big picture if we want to find a cure. America has no hope of surviving as anything other than Israel’s slave state unless a massive education project is embarked upon immediately. I thank you for reading this, and thank you in advance for passing it on. – Jolly Roger

"History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" – Napoleon Bonaparte

There’s plenty of information on Zionism available at http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still can. Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God’s sake, arm yourself. America will prevail, but it won’t be easy.


Anything written by Jolly Roger is the property of the American people, and the author hereby grants permission to anyone who so desires to post, print, copy, or distribute this letter in its entirety, and in fact, the author encourages you to do so. – J.R.

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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:23:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Big Picture

The Freemasons, the Illuminati, and Big Oil are all Zionists. Not all Zionists are Jewish. Your Christian televagelists are also Zionists.

Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote: i'd have to agree with mr. Hammond, some people think the freemasons did it, zionists, big oil, and etc.....these are elements contributing to the overall picture. to effectively place the blame on a single group has the tendency to create a tunnel vision which shuts out many other legitimate perspectives. Only thing i'm going to block is the "alien" perpective. Evil men in powerful positions are in the process of consolidating their power, for the sake of furthering their power.

Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote: I agree. The Zionist element is just that AM ELEMENT. There is a much bigger picture here. But this is where I have to disagree with you as well Greg. There is a whole lot more to this than just a few greedy slimy businessmen.

greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote: Sorry to say Jolly, but you are losing your way IMHO. The alleged zionist conspiracy being at the bottom of it all is ridiculously simplistic. Yes there is some element of Israeli interest at play on the world's stage, but to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is not correct. Most of the evil unfolding before us, 9/11 included, is the result of calculating businessmen. The private miltitary contractors, oil, and finance are the big players. All this 'dem Joos did it' at Truth Action is really bringing down the intent and quality of the alleged activist forum.

Greg Nixon

Jolly Roger <removingheads@yahoo.com> wrote:
At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American who invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they’re just figuring that out now, they’re throwing stones from a glass house. Of course he’s an idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs of intelligence, evil actions couldn’t be repeatedly passed off as "failures" or "bungling." If the president were intelligent and scholarly, people would question why he’s completely incompetent, but because he’s an obvious buffoon, many people accept that as the reason everything’s going horribly wrong. It’s also a lot less distressing to believe that your government is incompetent rather than know that they’re evil, and most people will cling to that comfort. The real problem is that if people blame Bush’s idiocy for our troubles, they probably also think that the solution would be to get him out of office, but if they think we’ll be saved by "Hillary in ‘08," or any other politician, they’re
even slower than Bush.
Regardless of who’s occupying the White House, there has never been an idiot running this country. There’s simply too much power and money at stake for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an idiot, and there doesn’t seem to be too much debate on that issue concerning Dubya, he’s only in the White House because someone else has firm control over him. Someone somewhere is flipping through the Bush-Gannon photo album, and that person has a lot more control over the fate of this nation than our "president" does.
Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn’t being run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The answer is that it’s going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the erroneous assumption that this country is being run by people who are acting in the interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from the truth. Instead of accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a lousy president, please try to think in terms of Bush’s "boss" being someone other than the American people, and his "job" as being to grab as much cash as he can for himself and his friends before driving this country into the ground. If you look at his presidency in that light, you can instantly see that he’s doing a marvelous job, and he’s the best "president" an enemy nation could ever hope to see in the White House.
The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both political parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading memories, the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper," and the election process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped overseas, the economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped, the Army is "broken," the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being dissolved, and every dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being looted, is already gone. With the entire nation and its population deep in debt, crashing the economy is a simple matter of raising interest rates, which will allow the bankers to once again scoop up all mortgaged property, and force its inhabitants out into the street.
The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this country that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do they benefit from destroying a country they control?"
To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question, ask yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he shows undying financial, political, and military support for Israel. Whose enemies are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why did Ariel Sharon say "Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?" Don’t you think it’s a bit strange that an American president said "I’d die for Israel," after dodging the draft when America was at war? The Israelis are in firm control of most American politicians, and AIPAC insures that any politician who doesn’t support Israel, is not re-elected.
The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is only a stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be possible without first destroying America, because America intact would present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty goals. Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing the economy to crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth in the planet’s history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve, have instigated this horror many times in the past, most recently in 1929, when they made a killing by triggering the great depression.
If you’re still following this madness, you’ve noticed I’m suggesting that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to rule the world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little far-fetched, but it happens to be strongly supported by documentation, historic precedent, and much of what’s happening today.
Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making sense of this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why would I think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one, Israel was created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them. Zionism is a political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land, and although this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving it have killed millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of horrifying. Although most of the world recognizes Israel as a "Jewish state," what most people don’t know is that in Israel, there is widespread discrimination against many Jews, and this discrimination is carried out, oddly enough, by other Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist Jews.
Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of people the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this division, we need to know something of their history. On one side of the division are Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes cast out of the holy land as per the story most people are familiar with, and on the other side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are of a different origin. Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars, who occupied what is known today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very war-like people who became a very powerful nation, and their king decided out of political convenience that his pagan population would suddenly become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers were imported, and the national conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven hundred years later, they would be driven into eastern Europe by the Mongols.
Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to remain in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy land, but it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction of Ashkenazi Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the holy land without divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than waiting around for one.
To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the many varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted differently by different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction makes it very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the world. Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon the world by Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit more closely. When we do, we discover that this one small group of people has been responsible for most of the world’s problems over the last century, and have unspeakable horrors planned for our future.
It’s important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I’m talking about a ruthless criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also directly responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered. This ball of confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph showing a group of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New York. If they were burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but these Jews were burning the flag of Israel.
To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to rule the world?), we have the fact that it’s been their stated goal for centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides in that direction. There’s also the disturbing truth that for all practical purposes, they already do rule the world.
If this information seems completely absurd to you, it’s because Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing company, and movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp on your mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and our Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand their influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many of the Masonic lodges, the "illuminati," and they’re also responsible for the spooky pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New World Order." That’s because the privately owned bank known as the U.S. Federal Reserve, is owned by Zionists.
The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters will be jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to "protect" us. From that point on we will live as slaves under martial law, and like any other beast of burden, we’ll be allowed to survive if they need us to do their work for them, but we’ll certainly have no reason to live.
This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World Order," or "One World Government," or if it’s sold with any other catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its orchestrators are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their plans for global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for controlling the masses in the past, and it’s serving their purposes quite nicely today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of the world’s population can be counted upon to play one part or another. The scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the Talmud, the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and in some cases dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures will most likely be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery, because we’re the last hurdle to jump on the track to global domination. The 9-11 deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a symptom of a much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in the final stages of infection. We all need to get the big picture if we want to find a cure. America has no hope of surviving as anything other than Israel’s slave state unless a massive education project is embarked upon immediately. I thank you for reading this, and thank you in advance for passing it on. – Jolly Roger

"History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" – Napoleon Bonaparte

There’s plenty of information on Zionism available at http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still can. Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God’s sake, arm yourself. America will prevail, but it won’t be easy.


Anything written by Jolly Roger is the property of the American people, and the author hereby grants permission to anyone who so desires to post, print, copy, or distribute this letter in its entirety, and in fact, the author encourages you to do so. – J.R.

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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:40:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Big Picture

I for one did not nor will I accuse you of jew bashing. Just think you should mention the vatican/zionism connection.

Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote: I never said 9-11 was a Jewish plot - only that Israel had a hand in it, which I believe is quite proven by the Mossad agents that were caught filming the event, and the fact that their van showed evidence of having had contained explosives. What I did imply is that 9-11 was part of a much bigger Zionist plot, and I happen believe 99% of all Jews know nothing of it. Most Jews are just as much victims of this as gentiles, and in the past have suffered greatly at the hands of the Zionists. I tried to make the distinction between Jews, Israel, and Zionism as clear as possible, but it seems there's no way to mention these things without being accused of Jew bashing.

greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote: Sorry to say Jolly, but you are losing your way IMHO. The alleged zionist conspiracy being at the bottom of it all is ridiculously simplistic. Yes there is some element of Israeli interest at play on the world's stage, but to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is not correct. Most of the evil unfolding before us, 9/11 included, is the result of calculating businessmen. The private miltitary contractors, oil, and finance are the big players. All this 'dem Joos did it' at Truth Action is really bringing down the intent and quality of the alleged activist forum.

Greg Nixon

Jolly Roger <removingheads@yahoo.com> wrote:
At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American who invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they’re just figuring that out now, they’re throwing stones from a glass house. Of course he’s an idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs of intelligence, evil actions couldn’t be repeatedly passed off as "failures" or "bungling." If the president were intelligent and scholarly, people would question why he’s completely incompetent, but because he’s an obvious buffoon, many people accept that as the reason everything’s going horribly wrong. It’s also a lot less distressing to believe that your government is incompetent rather than know that they’re evil, and most people will cling to that comfort. The real problem is that if people blame Bush’s idiocy for our troubles, they probably also think that the solution would be to get him out of office, but if they think we’ll be saved by "Hillary in ‘08," or any other politician, they’re
even slower than Bush.
Regardless of who’s occupying the White House, there has never been an idiot running this country. There’s simply too much power and money at stake for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an idiot, and there doesn’t seem to be too much debate on that issue concerning Dubya, he’s only in the White House because someone else has firm control over him. Someone somewhere is flipping through the Bush-Gannon photo album, and that person has a lot more control over the fate of this nation than our "president" does.
Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn’t being run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The answer is that it’s going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the erroneous assumption that this country is being run by people who are acting in the interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from the truth. Instead of accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a lousy president, please try to think in terms of Bush’s "boss" being someone other than the American people, and his "job" as being to grab as much cash as he can for himself and his friends before driving this country into the ground. If you look at his presidency in that light, you can instantly see that he’s doing a marvelous job, and he’s the best "president" an enemy nation could ever hope to see in the White House.
The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both political parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading memories, the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper," and the election process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped overseas, the economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped, the Army is "broken," the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being dissolved, and every dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being looted, is already gone. With the entire nation and its population deep in debt, crashing the economy is a simple matter of raising interest rates, which will allow the bankers to once again scoop up all mortgaged property, and force its inhabitants out into the street.
The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this country that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do they benefit from destroying a country they control?"
To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question, ask yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he shows undying financial, political, and military support for Israel. Whose enemies are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why did Ariel Sharon say "Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?" Don’t you think it’s a bit strange that an American president said "I’d die for Israel," after dodging the draft when America was at war? The Israelis are in firm control of most American politicians, and AIPAC insures that any politician who doesn’t support Israel, is not re-elected.
The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is only a stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be possible without first destroying America, because America intact would present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty goals. Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing the economy to crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth in the planet’s history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve, have instigated this horror many times in the past, most recently in 1929, when they made a killing by triggering the great depression.
If you’re still following this madness, you’ve noticed I’m suggesting that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to rule the world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little far-fetched, but it happens to be strongly supported by documentation, historic precedent, and much of what’s happening today.
Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making sense of this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why would I think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one, Israel was created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them. Zionism is a political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land, and although this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving it have killed millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of horrifying. Although most of the world recognizes Israel as a "Jewish state," what most people don’t know is that in Israel, there is widespread discrimination against many Jews, and this discrimination is carried out, oddly enough, by other Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist Jews.
Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of people the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this division, we need to know something of their history. On one side of the division are Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes cast out of the holy land as per the story most people are familiar with, and on the other side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are of a different origin. Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars, who occupied what is known today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very war-like people who became a very powerful nation, and their king decided out of political convenience that his pagan population would suddenly become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers were imported, and the national conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven hundred years later, they would be driven into eastern Europe by the Mongols.
Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to remain in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy land, but it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction of Ashkenazi Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the holy land without divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than waiting around for one.
To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the many varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted differently by different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction makes it very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the world. Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon the world by Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit more closely. When we do, we discover that this one small group of people has been responsible for most of the world’s problems over the last century, and have unspeakable horrors planned for our future.
It’s important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I’m talking about a ruthless criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also directly responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered. This ball of confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph showing a group of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New York. If they were burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but these Jews were burning the flag of Israel.
To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to rule the world?), we have the fact that it’s been their stated goal for centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides in that direction. There’s also the disturbing truth that for all practical purposes, they already do rule the world.
If this information seems completely absurd to you, it’s because Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing company, and movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp on your mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and our Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand their influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many of the Masonic lodges, the "illuminati," and they’re also responsible for the spooky pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New World Order." That’s because the privately owned bank known as the U.S. Federal Reserve, is owned by Zionists.
The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters will be jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to "protect" us. From that point on we will live as slaves under martial law, and like any other beast of burden, we’ll be allowed to survive if they need us to do their work for them, but we’ll certainly have no reason to live.
This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World Order," or "One World Government," or if it’s sold with any other catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its orchestrators are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their plans for global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for controlling the masses in the past, and it’s serving their purposes quite nicely today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of the world’s population can be counted upon to play one part or another. The scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the Talmud, the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and in some cases dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures will most likely be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery, because we’re the last hurdle to jump on the track to global domination. The 9-11 deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a symptom of a much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in the final stages of infection. We all need to get the big picture if we want to find a cure. America has no hope of surviving as anything other than Israel’s slave state unless a massive education project is embarked upon immediately. I thank you for reading this, and thank you in advance for passing it on. – Jolly Roger

"History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" – Napoleon Bonaparte

There’s plenty of information on Zionism available at http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still can. Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God’s sake, arm yourself. America will prevail, but it won’t be easy.


Anything written by Jolly Roger is the property of the American people, and the author hereby grants permission to anyone who so desires to post, print, copy, or distribute this letter in its entirety, and in fact, the author encourages you to do so. – J.R.

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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:44:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Big Picture

You are no fool. Ad if one looks deep enough, one will even find a direct connection from project paperclip directly to 911.

kitty285 <kitty285@charter.net> wrote: I keep thinking of Hitler,it's the same thing,was he one of the new
thinking,i believe this whole thing goes way back,i mean way back,i may
sound the fool,but i think not...Kitty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Naveed" <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] The Big Picture

> i'd have to agree with mr. Hammond, some people think the freemasons did
it, zionists, big oil, and etc.....these are elements contributing to the
overall picture. to effectively place the blame on a single group has the
tendency to create a tunnel vision which shuts out many other legitimate
perspectives. Only thing i'm going to block is the "alien" perpective. Evil
men in powerful positions are in the process of consolidating their power,
for the sake of furthering their power.
>
> Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote: I agree. The Zionist
element is just that AM ELEMENT. There is a much bigger picture here. But
this is where I have to disagree with you as well Greg. There is a whole
lot more to this than just a few greedy slimy businessmen.
>
> greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote: Sorry to say Jolly, but you are
losing your way IMHO. The alleged zionist conspiracy being at the bottom of
it all is ridiculously simplistic. Yes there is some element of Israeli
interest at play on the world's stage, but to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is
not correct. Most of the evil unfolding before us, 9/11 included, is the
result of calculating businessmen. The private miltitary contractors, oil,
and finance are the big players. All this 'dem Joos did it' at Truth Action
is really bringing down the intent and quality of the alleged activist
forum.
>
> Greg Nixon
>
>
> Jolly Roger <removingheads@yahoo.com> wrote:
> At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American who
invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they're just figuring that
out now, they're throwing stones from a glass house. Of course he's an
idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs of intelligence,
evil actions couldn't be repeatedly passed off as "failures" or "bungling."
If the president were intelligent and scholarly, people would question why
he's completely incompetent, but because he's an obvious buffoon, many
people accept that as the reason everything's going horribly wrong. It's
also a lot less distressing to believe that your government is incompetent
rather than know that they're evil, and most people will cling to that
comfort. The real problem is that if people blame Bush's idiocy for our
troubles, they probably also think that the solution would be to get him out
of office, but if they think we'll be saved by "Hillary in '08," or any
other politician, they're
> even slower than Bush.
> Regardless of who's occupying the White House, there has never been an
idiot running this country. There's simply too much power and money at stake
for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an idiot, and there
doesn't seem to be too much debate on that issue concerning Dubya, he's only
in the White House because someone else has firm control over him. Someone
somewhere is flipping through the Bush-Gannon photo album, and that person
has a lot more control over the fate of this nation than our "president"
does.
> Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn't being
run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The answer is
that it's going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the erroneous
assumption that this country is being run by people who are acting in the
interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from the truth. Instead of
accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a lousy president, please try
to think in terms of Bush's "boss" being someone other than the American
people, and his "job" as being to grab as much cash as he can for himself
and his friends before driving this country into the ground. If you look at
his presidency in that light, you can instantly see that he's doing a
marvelous job, and he's the best "president" an enemy nation could ever hope
to see in the White House.
> The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is
being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both political
parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading memories,
the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper," and the election
process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped overseas, the
economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped, the Army is "broken,"
the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being dissolved, and every
dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being looted, is already gone.
With the entire nation and its population deep in debt, crashing the economy
is a simple matter of raising interest rates, which will allow the bankers
to once again scoop up all mortgaged property, and force its inhabitants out
into the street.
> The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this country
that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do they
benefit from destroying a country they control?"
> To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question, ask
yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he shows
undying financial, political, and military support for Israel. Whose enemies
are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why did Ariel Sharon say
"Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?" Don't you think it's a
bit strange that an American president said "I'd die for Israel," after
dodging the draft when America was at war? The Israelis are in firm control
of most American politicians, and AIPAC insures that any politician who
doesn't support Israel, is not re-elected.
> The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by
destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is only a
stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be
possible without first destroying America, because America intact would
present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty goals.
Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing the economy to
crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth in the planet's
history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve, have instigated
this horror many times in the past, most recently in 1929, when they made a
killing by triggering the great depression.
> If you're still following this madness, you've noticed I'm suggesting
that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the
destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to rule the
world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little far-fetched,
but it happens to be strongly supported by documentation, historic
precedent, and much of what's happening today.
> Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making sense of
this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why would I
think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one, Israel was
created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them. Zionism is a
political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land, and although
this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving it have killed
millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of horrifying. Although
most of the world recognizes Israel as a "Jewish state," what most people
don't know is that in Israel, there is widespread discrimination against
many Jews, and this discrimination is carried out, oddly enough, by other
Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist Jews.
> Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of people
the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this division, we
need to know something of their history. On one side of the division are
Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes cast out of the
holy land as per the story most people are familiar with, and on the other
side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are of a different origin.
Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars, who occupied what is known
today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very war-like people who became a
very powerful nation, and their king decided out of political convenience
that his pagan population would suddenly become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers
were imported, and the national conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven
hundred years later, they would be driven into eastern Europe by the
Mongols.
> Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to remain
in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy land, but
it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction of Ashkenazi
Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the holy land without
divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than waiting around
for one.
> To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the many
varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States
demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted differently by
different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction makes it
very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the world.
Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon the world by
Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit more closely. When
we do, we discover that this one small group of people has been responsible
for most of the world's problems over the last century, and have unspeakable
horrors planned for our future.
> It's important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that
Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I'm talking about a ruthless
criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also directly
responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered. This ball of
confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph showing a group
of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New York. If they were
burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but these Jews were burning
the flag of Israel.
> To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to rule
the world?), we have the fact that it's been their stated goal for
centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides in that
direction. There's also the disturbing truth that for all practical
purposes, they already do rule the world.
> If this information seems completely absurd to you, it's because
Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing company, and
movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp on your
mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and our
Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand their
influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many of the Masonic
lodges, the "illuminati," and they're also responsible for the spooky
pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New World Order."
That's because the privately owned bank known as the U.S. Federal Reserve,
is owned by Zionists.
> The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters will be
jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to "protect"
us. From that point on we will live as slaves under martial law, and like
any other beast of burden, we'll be allowed to survive if they need us to do
their work for them, but we'll certainly have no reason to live.
> This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World
Order," or "One World Government," or if it's sold with any other
catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its
orchestrators are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their
plans for global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for
controlling the masses in the past, and it's serving their purposes quite
nicely today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of
the world's population can be counted upon to play one part or another. The
scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the Talmud,
the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and in some cases
dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures will most likely
be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
> Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous
world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery, because
we're the last hurdle to jump on the track to global domination. The 9-11
deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a symptom of a
much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in the final stages of
infection. We all need to get the big picture if we want to find a cure.
America has no hope of surviving as anything other than Israel's slave state
unless a massive education project is embarked upon immediately. I thank you
for reading this, and thank you in advance for passing it on. - Jolly Roger
>
> "History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" -
Napoleon Bonaparte
>
> There's plenty of information on Zionism available at
http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still can.
Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God's sake, arm yourself.
America will prevail, but it won't be easy.
>
>
> Anything written by Jolly Roger is the property of the American people,
and the author hereby grants permission to anyone who so desires to post,
print, copy, or distribute this letter in its entirety, and in fact, the
author encourages you to do so. - J.R.
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John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com> I found this message in my "bulk mail folder", treated as spam.
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SEE NOTES ON Censorship tactics on THE INTERNET
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HERE IS What is SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN:
You send a message to the group, and you get your own message back,
because you are one of the members of the group.
HERE IS what SOMETIMES DOES HAPPEN:
I sent a message to the group, and did NOT get that message back.
I checked to see if it was a moderated group,
and the message HAD not yet been approved.
Sometimes I sent a test message, and the test message was delivered.
Then I found that the censored message had been marked as "spam",
and put into the "spam" folder.
Interestingly enough, there are only three messages that I have ever sent;
which almost always triggered this "glitch".
ALL of these messages were critical of something that the Department of Homeland Security had done.
Now what about the strange problems in just getting the message OUT?
FIRST I sent a message ANNOUNCING that the censored message was
about to be sent, within five minutes.
THEN I sent the censored message.
I got LOTS of emails back from people;
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and

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When they took away the 2nd Amendment,
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 09:56:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Big Picture

Yes -- Let's think about Hitler -- It was Zionists who supported and funded him, insisted on the ghettos, and Jews wearing yellow stars of David. Zionists are behind most of the persecution Jews have suffered as part of their goal to drive all Jews to Israel. I clearly illustrated the division between Jews and Zionists, and there's still no end to the people who would consider it anti-semetic observe these things. This is most ridiculous because this is exactly the information people need to have to prevent persecution of Jews in the future, and anti-semitism now. I try to educate people rather than fool them, but what's very suspicious is your instant reaction of associating me with Hitler simply because I wrote something critical of Zionism.



kitty285 <kitty285@charter.net> wrote:
I keep thinking of Hitler,it's the same thing,was he one of the new
thinking,i believe this whole thing goes way back,i mean way back,i may
sound the fool,but i think not...Kitty
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From: "Naveed" <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] The Big Picture

> i'd have to agree with mr. Hammond, some people think the freemasons did
it, zionists, big oil, and etc.....these are elements contributing to the
overall picture. to effectively place the blame on a single group has the
tendency to create a tunnel vision which shuts out many other legitimate
perspectives. Only thing i'm going to block is the "alien" perpective. Evil
men in powerful positions are in the process of consolidating their power,
for the sake of furthering their power.
>
> Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote: I agree. The Zionist
element is just that AM ELEMENT. There is a much bigger picture here. But
this is where I have to disagree with you as well Greg. There is a whole
lot more to this than just a few greedy slimy businessmen.
>
> greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote: Sorry to say Jolly, but you are
losing your way IMHO. The alleged zionist conspiracy being at the bottom of
it all is ridiculously simplistic. Yes there is some element of Israeli
interest at play on the world's stage, but to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is
not correct. Most of the evil unfolding before us, 9/11 included, is the
result of calculating businessmen. The private miltitary contractors, oil,
and finance are the big players. All this 'dem Joos did it' at Truth Action
is really bringing down the intent and quality of the alleged activist
forum.
>
> Greg Nixon
>
>
> Jolly Roger <removingheads@yahoo.com> wrote:
> At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American who
invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they're just figuring that
out now, they're throwing stones from a glass house. Of course he's an
idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs of intelligence,
evil actions couldn't be repeatedly passed off as "failures" or "bungling."
If the president were intelligent and scholarly, people would question why
he's completely incompetent, but because he's an obvious buffoon, many
people accept that as the reason everything's going horribly wrong. It's
also a lot less distressing to believe that your government is incompetent
rather than know that they're evil, and most people will cling to that
comfort. The real problem is that if people blame Bush's idiocy for our
troubles, they probably also think that the solution would be to get him out
of office, but if they think we'll be saved by "Hillary in '08," or any
other politician, they're
> even slower than Bush.
> Regardless of who's occupying the White House, there has never been an
idiot running this country. There's simply too much power and money at stake
for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an idiot, and there
doesn't seem to be too much debate on that issue concerning Dubya, he's only
in the White House because someone else has firm control over him. Someone
somewhere is flipping through the Bush-Gannon photo album, and that person
has a lot more control over the fate of this nation than our "president"
does.
> Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn't being
run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The answer is
that it's going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the erroneous
assumption that this country is being run by people who are acting in the
interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from the truth. Instead of
accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a lousy president, please try
to think in terms of Bush's "boss" being someone other than the American
people, and his "job" as being to grab as much cash as he can for himself
and his friends before driving this country into the ground. If you look at
his presidency in that light, you can instantly see that he's doing a
marvelous job, and he's the best "president" an enemy nation could ever hope
to see in the White House.
> The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is
being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both political
parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading memories,
the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper," and the election
process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped overseas, the
economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped, the Army is "broken,"
the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being dissolved, and every
dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being looted, is already gone.
With the entire nation and its population deep in debt, crashing the economy
is a simple matter of raising interest rates, which will allow the bankers
to once again scoop up all mortgaged property, and force its inhabitants out
into the street.
> The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this country
that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do they
benefit from destroying a country they control?"
> To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question, ask
yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he shows
undying financial, political, and military support for Israel. Whose enemies
are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why did Ariel Sharon say
"Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?" Don't you think it's a
bit strange that an American president said "I'd die for Israel," after
dodging the draft when America was at war? The Israelis are in firm control
of most American politicians, and AIPAC insures that any politician who
doesn't support Israel, is not re-elected.
> The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by
destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is only a
stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be
possible without first destroying America, because America intact would
present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty goals.
Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing the economy to
crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth in the planet's
history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve, have instigated
this horror many times in the past, most recently in 1929, when they made a
killing by triggering the great depression.
> If you're still following this madness, you've noticed I'm suggesting
that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the
destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to rule the
world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little far-fetched,
but it happens to be strongly supported by documentation, historic
precedent, and much of what's happening today.
> Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making sense of
this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why would I
think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one, Israel was
created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them. Zionism is a
political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land, and although
this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving it have killed
millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of horrifying. Although
most of the world recognizes Israel as a "Jewish state," what most people
don't know is that in Israel, there is widespread discrimination against
many Jews, and this discrimination is carried out, oddly enough, by other
Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist Jews.
> Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of people
the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this division, we
need to know something of their history. On one side of the division are
Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes cast out of the
holy land as per the story most people are familiar with, and on the other
side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are of a different origin.
Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars, who occupied what is known
today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very war-like people who became a
very powerful nation, and their king decided out of political convenience
that his pagan population would suddenly become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers
were imported, and the national conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven
hundred years later, they would be driven into eastern Europe by the
Mongols.
> Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to remain
in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy land, but
it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction of Ashkenazi
Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the holy land without
divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than waiting around
for one.
> To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the many
varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States
demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted differently by
different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction makes it
very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the world.
Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon the world by
Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit more closely. When
we do, we discover that this one small group of people has been responsible
for most of the world's problems over the last century, and have unspeakable
horrors planned for our future.
> It's important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that
Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I'm talking about a ruthless
criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also directly
responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered. This ball of
confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph showing a group
of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New York. If they were
burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but these Jews were burning
the flag of Israel.
> To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to rule
the world?), we have the fact that it's been their stated goal for
centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides in that
direction. There's also the disturbing truth that for all practical
purposes, they already do rule the world.
> If this information seems completely absurd to you, it's because
Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing company, and
movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp on your
mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and our
Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand their
influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many of the Masonic
lodges, the "illuminati," and they're also responsible for the spooky
pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New World Order."
That's because the privately owned bank known as the U.S. Federal Reserve,
is owned by Zionists.
> The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters will be
jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to "protect"
us. From that point on we will live as slaves under martial law, and like
any other beast of burden, we'll be allowed to survive if they need us to do
their work for them, but we'll certainly have no reason to live.
> This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World
Order," or "One World Government," or if it's sold with any other
catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its
orchestrators are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their
plans for global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for
controlling the masses in the past, and it's serving their purposes quite
nicely today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of
the world's population can be counted upon to play one part or another. The
scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the Talmud,
the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and in some cases
dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures will most likely
be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
> Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous
world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery, because
we're the last hurdle to jump on the track to global domination. The 9-11
deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a symptom of a
much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in the final stages of
infection. We all need to get the big picture if we want to find a cure.
America has no hope of surviving as anything other than Israel's slave state
unless a massive education project is embarked upon immediately. I thank you
for reading this, and thank you in advance for passing it on. - Jolly Roger
>
> "History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" -
Napoleon Bonaparte
>
> There's plenty of information on Zionism available at
http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still can.
Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God's sake, arm yourself.
America will prevail, but it won't be easy.
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Big Picture

you're right -- I wish I thought of it and looked into it. I've heard of it but I don't know much about it. (excellent website btw)

Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote: I for one did not nor will I accuse you of jew bashing. Just think you should mention the vatican/zionism connection.

Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote: I never said 9-11 was a Jewish plot - only that Israel had a hand in it, which I believe is quite proven by the Mossad agents that were caught filming the event, and the fact that their van showed evidence of having had contained explosives. What I did imply is that 9-11 was part of a much bigger Zionist plot, and I happen believe 99% of all Jews know nothing of it. Most Jews are just as much victims of this as gentiles, and in the past have suffered greatly at the hands of the Zionists. I tried to make the distinction between Jews, Israel, and Zionism as clear as possible, but it seems there's no way to mention these things without being accused of Jew bashing.

greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote: Sorry to say Jolly, but you are losing your way IMHO. The alleged zionist conspiracy being at the bottom of it all is ridiculously simplistic. Yes there is some element of Israeli interest at play on the world's stage, but to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is not correct. Most of the evil unfolding before us, 9/11 included, is the result of calculating businessmen. The private miltitary contractors, oil, and finance are the big players. All this 'dem Joos did it' at Truth Action is really bringing down the intent and quality of the alleged activist forum.

Greg Nixon

Jolly Roger <removingheads@yahoo.com> wrote:
At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American who invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they’re just figuring that out now, they’re throwing stones from a glass house. Of course he’s an idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs of intelligence, evil actions couldn’t be repeatedly passed off as "failures" or "bungling." If the president were intelligent and scholarly, people would question why he’s completely incompetent, but because he’s an obvious buffoon, many people accept that as the reason everything’s going horribly wrong. It’s also a lot less distressing to believe that your government is incompetent rather than know that they’re evil, and most people will cling to that comfort. The real problem is that if people blame Bush’s idiocy for our troubles, they probably also think that the solution would be to get him out of office, but if they think we’ll be saved by "Hillary in ‘08," or any other politician, they’re
even slower than Bush.
Regardless of who’s occupying the White House, there has never been an idiot running this country. There’s simply too much power and money at stake for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an idiot, and there doesn’t seem to be too much debate on that issue concerning Dubya, he’s only in the White House because someone else has firm control over him. Someone somewhere is flipping through the Bush-Gannon photo album, and that person has a lot more control over the fate of this nation than our "president" does.
Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn’t being run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The answer is that it’s going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the erroneous assumption that this country is being run by people who are acting in the interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from the truth. Instead of accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a lousy president, please try to think in terms of Bush’s "boss" being someone other than the American people, and his "job" as being to grab as much cash as he can for himself and his friends before driving this country into the ground. If you look at his presidency in that light, you can instantly see that he’s doing a marvelous job, and he’s the best "president" an enemy nation could ever hope to see in the White House.
The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both political parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading memories, the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper," and the election process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped overseas, the economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped, the Army is "broken," the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being dissolved, and every dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being looted, is already gone. With the entire nation and its population deep in debt, crashing the economy is a simple matter of raising interest rates, which will allow the bankers to once again scoop up all mortgaged property, and force its inhabitants out into the street.
The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this country that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do they benefit from destroying a country they control?"
To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question, ask yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he shows undying financial, political, and military support for Israel. Whose enemies are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why did Ariel Sharon say "Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?" Don’t you think it’s a bit strange that an American president said "I’d die for Israel," after dodging the draft when America was at war? The Israelis are in firm control of most American politicians, and AIPAC insures that any politician who doesn’t support Israel, is not re-elected.
The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is only a stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be possible without first destroying America, because America intact would present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty goals. Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing the economy to crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth in the planet’s history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve, have instigated this horror many times in the past, most recently in 1929, when they made a killing by triggering the great depression.
If you’re still following this madness, you’ve noticed I’m suggesting that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to rule the world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little far-fetched, but it happens to be strongly supported by documentation, historic precedent, and much of what’s happening today.
Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making sense of this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why would I think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one, Israel was created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them. Zionism is a political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land, and although this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving it have killed millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of horrifying. Although most of the world recognizes Israel as a "Jewish state," what most people don’t know is that in Israel, there is widespread discrimination against many Jews, and this discrimination is carried out, oddly enough, by other Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist Jews.
Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of people the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this division, we need to know something of their history. On one side of the division are Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes cast out of the holy land as per the story most people are familiar with, and on the other side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are of a different origin. Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars, who occupied what is known today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very war-like people who became a very powerful nation, and their king decided out of political convenience that his pagan population would suddenly become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers were imported, and the national conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven hundred years later, they would be driven into eastern Europe by the Mongols.
Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to remain in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy land, but it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction of Ashkenazi Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the holy land without divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than waiting around for one.
To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the many varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted differently by different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction makes it very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the world. Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon the world by Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit more closely. When we do, we discover that this one small group of people has been responsible for most of the world’s problems over the last century, and have unspeakable horrors planned for our future.
It’s important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I’m talking about a ruthless criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also directly responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered. This ball of confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph showing a group of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New York. If they were burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but these Jews were burning the flag of Israel.
To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to rule the world?), we have the fact that it’s been their stated goal for centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides in that direction. There’s also the disturbing truth that for all practical purposes, they already do rule the world.
If this information seems completely absurd to you, it’s because Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing company, and movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp on your mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and our Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand their influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many of the Masonic lodges, the "illuminati," and they’re also responsible for the spooky pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New World Order." That’s because the privately owned bank known as the U.S. Federal Reserve, is owned by Zionists.
The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters will be jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to "protect" us. From that point on we will live as slaves under martial law, and like any other beast of burden, we’ll be allowed to survive if they need us to do their work for them, but we’ll certainly have no reason to live.
This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World Order," or "One World Government," or if it’s sold with any other catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its orchestrators are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their plans for global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for controlling the masses in the past, and it’s serving their purposes quite nicely today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of the world’s population can be counted upon to play one part or another. The scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the Talmud, the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and in some cases dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures will most likely be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery, because we’re the last hurdle to jump on the track to global domination. The 9-11 deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a symptom of a much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in the final stages of infection. We all need to get the big picture if we want to find a cure. America has no hope of surviving as anything other than Israel’s slave state unless a massive education project is embarked upon immediately. I thank you for reading this, and thank you in advance for passing it on. – Jolly Roger

"History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" – Napoleon Bonaparte

There’s plenty of information on Zionism available at http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still can. Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God’s sake, arm yourself. America will prevail, but it won’t be easy.


Anything written by Jolly Roger is the property of the American people, and the author hereby grants permission to anyone who so desires to post, print, copy, or distribute this letter in its entirety, and in fact, the author encourages you to do so. – J.R.

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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 10:15:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Big Picture

The hilarous thing regarding being "anti-semetic" is if you look semetic and anti-semetic up in the dictionary, one talks bout people of the middle east/mediterrianian area and the other talks bout jews.......

I've had people tell me its the zionists all the way and ignore the illuminati/occult hocus pocus because its disinformation, but then again I'm open to all ideas except for alien crap. The way I see thing is that elements of the british aristocracy founded round table groups with the goal of world domination who also happened to be into the occult.......balfour declaration anyone?


The other thing I managed to discern with my tiny brain is that WWII was bout destroying the average jew by the bigger zionist aligned jew aka traitors to the tribe (as skolnick put it, who happens to be jewish). Peter Myers talks about how the british aristocracy and jewish zionism merged into one power before and during world war I, balfour declaration being the tie that binds.


Then there's the jesuit connection which i'm quite illiterate of.

Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yes -- Let's think about Hitler -- It was Zionists who supported and funded him, insisted on the ghettos, and Jews wearing yellow stars of David. Zionists are behind most of the persecution Jews have suffered as part of their goal to drive all Jews to Israel. I clearly illustrated the division between Jews and Zionists, and there's still no end to the people who would consider it anti-semetic observe these things. This is most ridiculous because this is exactly the information people need to have to prevent persecution of Jews in the future, and anti-semitism now. I try to educate people rather than fool them, but what's very suspicious is your instant reaction of associating me with Hitler simply because I wrote something critical of Zionism.



kitty285 <kitty285@charter.net> wrote:
I keep thinking of Hitler,it's the same thing,was he one of the new
thinking,i believe this whole thing goes way back,i mean way back,i may
sound the fool,but i think not...Kitty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Naveed" <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] The Big Picture

> i'd have to agree with mr. Hammond, some people think the freemasons did
it, zionists, big oil, and etc.....these are elements contributing to the
overall picture. to effectively place the blame on a single group has the
tendency to create a tunnel vision which shuts out many other legitimate
perspectives. Only thing i'm going to block is the "alien" perpective. Evil
men in powerful positions are in the process of consolidating their power,
for the sake of furthering their power.
>
> Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote: I agree. The Zionist
element is just that AM ELEMENT. There is a much bigger picture here. But
this is where I have to disagree with you as well Greg. There is a whole
lot more to this than just a few greedy slimy businessmen.
>
> greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote: Sorry to say Jolly, but you are
losing your way IMHO. The alleged zionist conspiracy being at the bottom of
it all is ridiculously simplistic. Yes there is some element of Israeli
interest at play on the world's stage, but to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is
not correct. Most of the evil unfolding before us, 9/11 included, is the
result of calculating businessmen. The private miltitary contractors, oil,
and finance are the big players. All this 'dem Joos did it' at Truth Action
is really bringing down the intent and quality of the alleged activist
forum.
>
> Greg Nixon
>
>
> Jolly Roger <removingheads@yahoo.com> wrote:
> At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American who
invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they're just figuring that
out now, they're throwing stones from a glass house. Of course he's an
idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs of intelligence,
evil actions couldn't be repeatedly passed off as "failures" or "bungling."
If the president were intelligent and scholarly, people would question why
he's completely incompetent, but because he's an obvious buffoon, many
people accept that as the reason everything's going horribly wrong. It's
also a lot less distressing to believe that your government is incompetent
rather than know that they're evil, and most people will cling to that
comfort. The real problem is that if people blame Bush's idiocy for our
troubles, they probably also think that the solution would be to get him out
of office, but if they think we'll be saved by "Hillary in '08," or any
other politician, they're
> even slower than Bush.
> Regardless of who's occupying the White House, there has never been an
idiot running this country. There's simply too much power and money at stake
for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an idiot, and there
doesn't seem to be too much debate on that issue concerning Dubya, he's only
in the White House because someone else has firm control over him. Someone
somewhere is flipping through the Bush-Gannon photo album, and that person
has a lot more control over the fate of this nation than our "president"
does.
> Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn't being
run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The answer is
that it's going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the erroneous
assumption that this country is being run by people who are acting in the
interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from the truth. Instead of
accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a lousy president, please try
to think in terms of Bush's "boss" being someone other than the American
people, and his "job" as being to grab as much cash as he can for himself
and his friends before driving this country into the ground. If you look at
his presidency in that light, you can instantly see that he's doing a
marvelous job, and he's the best "president" an enemy nation could ever hope
to see in the White House.
> The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is
being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both political
parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading memories,
the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper," and the election
process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped overseas, the
economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped, the Army is "broken,"
the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being dissolved, and every
dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being looted, is already gone.
With the entire nation and its population deep in debt, crashing the economy
is a simple matter of raising interest rates, which will allow the bankers
to once again scoop up all mortgaged property, and force its inhabitants out
into the street.
> The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this country
that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do they
benefit from destroying a country they control?"
> To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question, ask
yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he shows
undying financial, political, and military support for Israel. Whose enemies
are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why did Ariel Sharon say
"Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?" Don't you think it's a
bit strange that an American president said "I'd die for Israel," after
dodging the draft when America was at war? The Israelis are in firm control
of most American politicians, and AIPAC insures that any politician who
doesn't support Israel, is not re-elected.
> The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by
destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is only a
stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be
possible without first destroying America, because America intact would
present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty goals.
Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing the economy to
crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth in the planet's
history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve, have instigated
this horror many times in the past, most recently in 1929, when they made a
killing by triggering the great depression.
> If you're still following this madness, you've noticed I'm suggesting
that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the
destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to rule the
world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little far-fetched,
but it happens to be strongly supported by documentation, historic
precedent, and much of what's happening today.
> Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making sense of
this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why would I
think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one, Israel was
created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them. Zionism is a
political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land, and although
this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving it have killed
millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of horrifying. Although
most of the world recognizes Israel as a "Jewish state," what most people
don't know is that in Israel, there is widespread discrimination against
many Jews, and this discrimination is carried out, oddly enough, by other
Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist Jews.
> Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of people
the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this division, we
need to know something of their history. On one side of the division are
Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes cast out of the
holy land as per the story most people are familiar with, and on the other
side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are of a different origin.
Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars, who occupied what is known
today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very war-like people who became a
very powerful nation, and their king decided out of political convenience
that his pagan population would suddenly become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers
were imported, and the national conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven
hundred years later, they would be driven into eastern Europe by the
Mongols.
> Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to remain
in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy land, but
it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction of Ashkenazi
Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the holy land without
divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than waiting around
for one.
> To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the many
varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States
demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted differently by
different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction makes it
very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the world.
Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon the world by
Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit more closely. When
we do, we discover that this one small group of people has been responsible
for most of the world's problems over the last century, and have unspeakable
horrors planned for our future.
> It's important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that
Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I'm talking about a ruthless
criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also directly
responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered. This ball of
confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph showing a group
of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New York. If they were
burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but these Jews were burning
the flag of Israel.
> To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to rule
the world?), we have the fact that it's been their stated goal for
centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides in that
direction. There's also the disturbing truth that for all practical
purposes, they already do rule the world.
> If this information seems completely absurd to you, it's because
Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing company, and
movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp on your
mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and our
Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand their
influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many of the Masonic
lodges, the "illuminati," and they're also responsible for the spooky
pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New World Order."
That's because the privately owned bank known as the U.S. Federal Reserve,
is owned by Zionists.
> The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters will be
jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to "protect"
us. From that point on we will live as slaves under martial law, and like
any other beast of burden, we'll be allowed to survive if they need us to do
their work for them, but we'll certainly have no reason to live.
> This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World
Order," or "One World Government," or if it's sold with any other
catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its
orchestrators are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their
plans for global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for
controlling the masses in the past, and it's serving their purposes quite
nicely today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of
the world's population can be counted upon to play one part or another. The
scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the Talmud,
the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and in some cases
dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures will most likely
be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
> Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous
world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery, because
we're the last hurdle to jump on the track to global domination. The 9-11
deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a symptom of a
much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in the final stages of
infection. We all need to get the big picture if we want to find a cure.
America has no hope of surviving as anything other than Israel's slave state
unless a massive education project is embarked upon immediately. I thank you
for reading this, and thank you in advance for passing it on. - Jolly Roger
>
> "History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" -
Napoleon Bonaparte
>
> There's plenty of information on Zionism available at
http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still can.
Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God's sake, arm yourself.
America will prevail, but it won't be easy.
>
>
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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:07:40 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Greg Nixon: to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is not correct.

Greg Nixon: to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is not correct.

John Judge: I don’t think we yet know who is responsible for 9/11 on either the mechanical or the broader level.
Dick Eastman: Only Jewish power was sufficient to pull off 9-11 inside-job frame-up operation. No other interest group power is powerful enough, dominant enough, pervasive enough, secure enough, fanatical enough, protected enough, motivated enough and confident enough to have pulled off 9-11.

Who controls the Pentagon? Who controls the White House? Who controls the media? Who has Mossad? And who but ADL is up and ready for internet opinion management?

Greg Nixon and John Judge are covering for the Zionists. Notice how Nixon completely nullifies Jolly Roger with just one unfounded (and untrue) assertion. The Big Picture essay needs to be promoted and defended by everyone. Greg Nixon, John Judge, Webfairy etc. never quit -- and neither must we in answering them.

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From: Jolly Roger
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] The Big Picture

I never said 9-11 was a Jewish plot - only that Israel had a hand in it, which I believe is quite proven by the Mossad agents that were caught filming the event, and the fact that their van showed evidence of having had contained explosives. What I did imply is that 9-11 was part of a much bigger Zionist plot, and I happen believe 99% of all Jews know nothing of it. Most Jews are just as much victims of this as gentiles, and in the past have suffered greatly at the hands of the Zionists. I tried to make the distinction between Jews, Israel, and Zionism as clear as possible, but it seems there's no way to mention these things without being accused of Jew bashing.

greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sorry to say Jolly, but you are losing your way IMHO. The alleged zionist conspiracy being at the bottom of it all is ridiculously simplistic. Yes there is some element of Israeli interest at play on the world's stage, but to say 9/11 was a jewish plot is not correct. Most of the evil unfolding before us, 9/11 included, is the result of calculating businessmen. The private miltitary contractors, oil, and finance are the big players. All this 'dem Joos did it' at Truth Action is really bringing down the intent and quality of the alleged activist forum.

Greg Nixon

Jolly Roger <removingheads@yahoo.com> wrote:
At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American who invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they’re just figuring that out now, they’re throwing stones from a glass house. Of course he’s an idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs of intelligence, evil actions couldn’t be repeatedly passed off as "failures" or "bungling." If the president were intelligent and scholarly, people would question why he’s completely incompetent, but because he’s an obvious buffoon, many people accept that as the reason everything’s going horribly wrong. It’s also a lot less distressing to believe that your government is incompetent rather than know that they’re evil, and most people will cling to that comfort. The real problem is that if people blame Bush’s idiocy for our troubles, they probably also think that the solution would be to get him out of office, but if they think we’ll be saved by "Hillary in ‘08," or any other politician, they’re even slower than Bush.
Regardless of who’s occupying the White House, there has never been an idiot running this country. There’s simply too much power and money at stake for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an idiot, and there doesn’t seem to be too much debate on that issue concerning Dubya, he’s only in the White House because someone else has firm control over him. Someone somewhere is flipping through the Bush-Gannon photo album, and that person has a lot more control over the fate of this nation than our "president" does.
Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn’t being run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The answer is that it’s going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the erroneous assumption that this country is being run by people who are acting in the interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from the truth. Instead of accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a lousy president, please try to think in terms of Bush’s "boss" being someone other than the American people, and his "job" as being to grab as much cash as he can for himself and his friends before driving this country into the ground. If you look at his presidency in that light, you can instantly see that he’s doing a marvelous job, and he’s the best "president" an enemy nation could ever hope to see in the White House.
The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both political parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading memories, the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper," and the election process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped overseas, the economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped, the Army is "broken," the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being dissolved, and every dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being looted, is already gone. With the entire nation and its population deep in debt, crashing the economy is a simple matter of raising interest rates, which will allow the bankers to once again scoop up all mortgaged property, and force its inhabitants out into the street.
The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this country that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do they benefit from destroying a country they control?"
To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question, ask yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he shows undying financial, political, and military support for Israel. Whose enemies are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why did Ariel Sharon say "Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?" Don’t you think it’s a bit strange that an American president said "I’d die for Israel," after dodging the draft when America was at war? The Israelis are in firm control of most American politicians, and AIPAC insures that any politician who doesn’t support Israel, is not re-elected.
The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is only a stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be possible without first destroying America, because America intact would present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty goals. Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing the economy to crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth in the planet’s history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve, have instigated this horror many times in the past, most recently in 1929, when they made a killing by triggering the great depression.
If you’re still following this madness, you’ve noticed I’m suggesting that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to rule the world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little far-fetched, but it happens to be strongly supported by documentation, historic precedent, and much of what’s happening today.
Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making sense of this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why would I think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one, Israel was created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them. Zionism is a political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land, and although this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving it have killed millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of horrifying. Although most of the world recognizes Israel as a "Jewish state," what most people don’t know is that in Israel, there is widespread discrimination against many Jews, and this discrimination is carried out, oddly enough, by other Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist Jews.
Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of people the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this division, we need to know something of their history. On one side of the division are Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes cast out of the holy land as per the story most people are familiar with, and on the other side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are of a different origin. Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars, who occupied what is known today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very war-like people who became a very powerful nation, and their king decided out of political convenience that his pagan population would suddenly become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers were imported, and the national conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven hundred years later, they would be driven into eastern Europe by the Mongols.
Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to remain in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy land, but it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction of Ashkenazi Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the holy land without divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than waiting around for one.
To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the many varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted differently by different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction makes it very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the world. Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon the world by Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit more closely. When we do, we discover that this one small group of people has been responsible for most of the world’s problems over the last century, and have unspeakable horrors planned for our future.
It’s important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I’m talking about a ruthless criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also directly responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered. This ball of confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph showing a group of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New York. If they were burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but these Jews were burning the flag of Israel.
To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to rule the world?), we have the fact that it’s been their stated goal for centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides in that direction. There’s also the disturbing truth that for all practical purposes, they already do rule the world.
If this information seems completely absurd to you, it’s because Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing company, and movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp on your mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and our Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand their influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many of the Masonic lodges, the "illuminati," and they’re also responsible for the spooky pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New World Order." That’s because the privately owned bank known as the U.S. Federal Reserve, is owned by Zionists.
The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters will be jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to "protect" us. From that point on we will live as slaves under martial law, and like any other beast of burden, we’ll be allowed to survive if they need us to do their work for them, but we’ll certainly have no reason to live.
This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World Order," or "One World Government," or if it’s sold with any other catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its orchestrators are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their plans for global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for controlling the masses in the past, and it’s serving their purposes quite nicely today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of the world’s population can be counted upon to play one part or another. The scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the Talmud, the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and in some cases dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures will most likely be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery, because we’re the last hurdle to jump on the track to global domination. The 9-11 deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a symptom of a much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in the final stages of infection. We all need to get the big picture if we want to find a cure. America has no hope of surviving as anything other than Israel’s slave state unless a massive education project is embarked upon immediately. I thank you for reading this, and thank you in advance for passing it on. – Jolly Roger

"History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" – Napoleon Bonaparte

There’s plenty of information on Zionism available at http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still can. Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God’s sake, arm yourself. America will prevail, but it won’t be easy.

Anything written by Jolly Roger is the property of the American people, and the author hereby grants permission to anyone who so desires to post, print, copy, or distribute this letter in its entirety, and in fact, the author encourages you to do so. – J.R.

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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:14:41 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Peter Wakefield Sault comments: "Jolly Roger" gives us The Big Picture

From: Peter Wakefield Sault
To: Dick Eastman
Cc: removingheads@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: "Jolly Roger" gives us The Big Picture

Hi Dick

Excellent article, deeply thoughtful and thought-provoking, but even Mr Roger can be a little naive it seems. He says "Zionism is a political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land". I believe that is just a cover for the establishment of a pirate state, a hideyhole for Jewish gangsters, murderers and terrorists. Ordinary Jews, fanatical though they may be (that's ordinary for Jews), are both a front and a human shield. I believe the need to invade Palestine became imperative in the 19th Century as the usefulness, hence monetary value, of all that oil in Arabia (which, at that time, just simply bubbled up out of the sand) became clear - as European genius, misguided though it may have been, created the Industrial Revolution and thereby the market for mineral oil products.

Love the quote from Napoleon. It would seem that *I* have virtually no history, since I dispute everything that I have not seen with my own eyes.

Regards
Peter

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additional comments on "The Big Picture" made by "Jolly Roger" to the 911TruthAction yahoogroup:

Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote:
I never said 9-11 was a Jewish plot - only that Israel had a hand in it, which I believe is quite proven by the Mossad agents that were caught filming the event, and the fact that their van showed evidence of having had contained explosives. What I did imply is that 9-11 was part of a much bigger Zionist plot, and I happen believe 99% of all Jews know nothing of it. Most Jews are just as much victims of this as gentiles, and in the past have suffered greatly at the hands of the Zionists. I tried to make the distinction between Jews, Israel, and Zionism as clear as possible, but it seems there's no way to mention these things without being accused of Jew

====
Yes -- Let's think about Hitler -- It was Zionists who supported and funded him, insisted on the ghettos, and Jews wearing yellow stars of David. Zionists are behind most of the persecution Jews have suffered as part of their goal to drive all Jews to Israel. I clearly illustrated the division between Jews and Zionists, and there's still no end to the people who would consider it anti-semetic observe these things. This is most ridiculous because this is exactly the information people need to have to prevent persecution of Jews in the future, and anti-semitism now. I try to educate people rather than fool them, but what's very suspicious is your instant reaction of associating me with Hitler simply because I wrote something critical of Zionism.

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The Freemasons, the Illuminati, and Big Oil are all Zionists. Not all Zionists are Jewish. Your Christian televagelists are also Zionists.
===

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Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: "Jolly Roger" gives us The Big Picture

This could be the most important essay of our day. Please help make it so. -- Dick Eastman
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From: Jolly Roger

April 8, 2006

The Big Picture

by "Jolly Roger"

At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American who invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they're just figuring that out now, they're throwing stones from a glass house. Of course he's an idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs of intelligence, evil actions couldn't be repeatedly passed off as "failures" or "bungling." If the president were intelligent and scholarly, people would question why he's completely incompetent, but because he's an obvious buffoon, many people accept that as the reason everything's going horribly wrong. It's also a lot less distressing to believe that your government is incompetent rather than know that they're evil, and most people will cling to that comfort. The real problem is that if people blame Bush's idiocy for our troubles, they probably also think that the solution would be to get him out of office, but if they think we'll be saved by "Hillary in '08," or any other politician, they're even slower than Bush.
Regardless of who's occupying the White House, there has never been an idiot running this country. There's simply too much power and money at stake for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an idiot, and there doesn't seem to be too much debate on that issue concerning Dubya, he's only in the White House because someone else has firm control over him. Someone somewhere is flipping through the Bush-Gannon photo album, and that person has a lot more control over the fate of this nation than our "president" does.
Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn't being run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The answer is that it's going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the erroneous assumption that this country is being run by people who are acting in the interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from the truth. Instead of accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a lousy president, please try to think in terms of Bush's "boss" being someone other than the American people, and his "job" as being to grab as much cash as he can for himself and his friends before driving this country into the ground. If you look at his presidency in that light, you can instantly see that he's doing a marvelous job, and he's the best "president" an enemy nation could ever hope to see in the White House.
The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both political parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading memories, the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper," and the election process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped overseas, the economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped, the Army is "broken," the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being dissolved, and every dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being looted, is already gone. With the entire nation and its population deep in debt, crashing the economy is a simple matter of raising interest rates, which will allow the bankers to once again scoop up all mortgaged property, and force its inhabitants out into the street.
The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this country that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do they benefit from destroying a country they control?"
To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question, ask yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he shows undying financial, political, and military support for Israel. Whose enemies are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why did Ariel Sharon say "Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?" Don't you think it's a bit strange that an American president said "I'd die for Israel," after dodging the draft when America was at war? The Israelis are in firm control of most American politicians, and AIPAC insures that any politician who doesn't support Israel, is not re-elected.
The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is only a stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be possible without first destroying America, because America intact would present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty goals. Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing the economy to crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth in the planet's history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve, have instigated this horror many times in the past, most recently in 1929, when they made a killing by triggering the great depression.
If you're still following this madness, you've noticed I'm suggesting that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to rule the world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little far-fetched, but it happens to be strongly supported by documentation, historic precedent, and much of what's happening today.
Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making sense of this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why would I think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one, Israel was created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them. Zionism is a political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land, and although this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving it have killed millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of horrifying. Although most of the world recognizes Israel as a "Jewish state," what most people don't know is that in Israel, there is widespread discrimination against many Jews, and this discrimination is carried out, oddly enough, by other Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist Jews.
Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of people the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this division, we need to know something of their history. On one side of the division are Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes cast out of the holy land as per the story most people are familiar with, and on the other side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are of a different origin. Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars, who occupied what is known today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very war-like people who became a very powerful nation, and their king decided out of political convenience that his pagan population would suddenly become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers were imported, and the national conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven hundred years later, they would be driven into eastern Europe by the Mongols.
Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to remain in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy land, but it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction of Ashkenazi Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the holy land without divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than waiting around for one.
To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the many varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted differently by different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction makes it very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the world. Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon the world by Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit more closely. When we do, we discover that this one small group of people has been responsible for most of the world's problems over the last century, and have unspeakable horrors planned for our future.
It's important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I'm talking about a ruthless criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also directly responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered. This ball of confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph showing a group of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New York. If they were burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but these Jews were burning the flag of Israel.
To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to rule the world?), we have the fact that it's been their stated goal for centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides in that direction. There's also the disturbing truth that for all practical purposes, they already do rule the world.
If this information seems completely absurd to you, it's because Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing company, and movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp on your mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and our Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand their influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many of the Masonic lodges, the "illuminati," and they're also responsible for the spooky pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New World Order." That's because the privately owned bank known as the U.S. Federal Reserve, is owned by Zionists.
The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters will be jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to "protect" us. >From that point on we will live as slaves under martial law, and like any other beast of burden, we'll be allowed to survive if they need us to do their work for them, but we'll certainly have no reason to live.
This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World Order," or "One World Government," or if it's sold with any other catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its orchestrators are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their plans for global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for controlling the masses in the past, and it's serving their purposes quite nicely today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of the world's population can be counted upon to play one part or another. The scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the Talmud, the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and in some cases dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures will most likely be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery, because we're the last hurdle to jump on the track to global domination. The 9-11 deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a symptom of a much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in the final stages of infection. We all need to get the big picture if we want to find a cure. America has no hope of surviving as anything other than Israel's slave state unless a massive education project is embarked upon immediately. I thank you for reading this, and thank you in advance for passing it on. - Jolly Roger

"History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" - Napoleon Bonaparte

There's plenty of information on Zionism available at http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still can. Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God's sake, arm yourself. America will prevail, but it won't be easy.

Anything written by Jolly Roger is the property of the American people, and the author hereby grants permission to anyone who so desires to post, print, copy, or distribute this letter in its entirety, and in fact, the author encourages you to do so. - J.R.

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:24:51 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: "the historic plan of Jewish Ritual Murder" -- Eustace Mullins

From: "Wayne B........." < ... >
To: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: Jewhuggers -- those who insist against all evidence that there were Jews at the WTC on 9-11

> Hi Dick: My friend and author Eustace Mullins characterizes all methods used
> by the Zionists to eliminate mankind as 'the historical plan of Jewish
> Ritual Murder', which knows no bounds.
>
> Everything involving life is, from the smallest to the largest without
> exception, under Jew control. Eustace is 100% correct in my view. Kindly,
> Wayne B.........
>
>
> >From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
> >To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> >Subject: Jewhuggers -- those who insist against all evidence that there
> >were Jews at the WTC on 9-11
> >Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:55:31 -0700
> >
> >Mossad operatives dancing for joy at 9-11 WTC would not have been so happy
> >unless they already knew there were no Jews in those collapsing towers.
> >
> >Think of the implications.
> >
> >Dick Eastman
> >Yakima, Washington
> >http://bedoper.com/eastman
>
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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:29:34 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Fw: I was wrong.

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From: Carol A. Valentine
To: Dick Eastman
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:16 AM
Subject: I was wrong.

Dick-towards the end, the piece goes lousy. It is actually Jewish Supremacist propaganda. The Old Testament is the root of the "Chosen People" doctrine and the Eretz Israel doctrine. This piece seeks to put the blame on the branches, rather than the roots, of the evil.

Carol

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From: "Carol A. Valentine" <skywriter@public-action.com>
Date: April 9, 2006 2:12:55 AM PDT
To: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Re: [SPAM] "Jolly Roger" gives us The Big Picture

Great piece, Dick. Thanks

On Apr 9, 2006, at 12:53 AM, Dick Eastman wrote:

From: Jolly Roger

April 8, 2006

The Big Picture

by "Jolly Roger"

At least twice each week I read the rant of another angry American who invariably declares that Bush is an idiot, but if they’re just figuring that out now, they’re throwing stones from a glass house. Of course he’s an idiot. They needed an idiot. If the man displayed any signs of intelligence, evil actions couldn’t be repeatedly passed off as "failures" or "bungling." If the president were intelligent and scholarly, people would question why he’s completely incompetent, but because he’s an obvious buffoon, many people accept that as the reason everything’s going horribly wrong. It’s also a lot less distressing to believe that your government is incompetent rather than know that they’re evil, and most people will cling to that comfort. The real problem is that if people blame Bush’s idiocy for our troubles, they probably also think that the solution would be to get him out of office, but if they think we’ll be saved by "Hillary in ‘08," or any other politician, they’re even slower than Bush.
Regardless of who’s occupying the White House, there has never been an idiot running this country. There’s simply too much power and money at stake for an idiot to gain control of it. If the president is an idiot, and there doesn’t seem to be too much debate on that issue concerning Dubya, he’s only in the White House because someone else has firm control over him. Someone somewhere is flipping through the Bush-Gannon photo album, and that person has a lot more control over the fate of this nation than our "president" does.
Of course this reasoning begs the question "if this country isn’t being run by an idiot, why is everything going so horribly wrong?" The answer is that it’s going wrong by design. The naive questioner makes the erroneous assumption that this country is being run by people who are acting in the interest of Americans, but nothing can be further from the truth. Instead of accusing Bush of doing a lousy job, or being a lousy president, please try to think in terms of Bush’s "boss" being someone other than the American people, and his "job" as being to grab as much cash as he can for himself and his friends before driving this country into the ground. If you look at his presidency in that light, you can instantly see that he’s doing a marvelous job, and he’s the best "president" an enemy nation could ever hope to see in the White House.
The fact of the matter is that America as we know it (or knew it) is being systematically destroyed, and the politicians from both political parties are making this possible. Freedom and justice are fading memories, the U.S. Constitution is "just a goddamn piece of paper," and the election process has been undermined. The jobs have been shipped overseas, the economy is hopeless, the environment is being raped, the Army is "broken," the infrastructure is crumbling, our borders are being dissolved, and every dollar or gold nugget that was subject to being looted, is already gone. With the entire nation and its population deep in debt, crashing the economy is a simple matter of raising interest rates, which will allow the bankers to once again scoop up all mortgaged property, and force its inhabitants out into the street.
The next logical question one would ask is "who is running this country that would intentionally inflict such horrors upon it, and how do they benefit from destroying a country they control?"
To answer the "who is running this country?" part of the question, ask yourself why no politician can get elected in this country unless he shows undying financial, political, and military support for Israel. Whose enemies are American soldiers fighting in the middle east? Why did Ariel Sharon say "Israel rules America, and the Americans know it?" Don’t you think it’s a bit strange that an American president said "I’d die for Israel," after dodging the draft when America was at war? The Israelis are in firm control of most American politicians, and AIPAC insures that any politician who doesn’t support Israel, is not re-elected.
The answer to the next part of the question (how do they benefit by destroying a country they control?") is that controlling America is only a stepping stone toward ruling the world. Ruling the world will not be possible without first destroying America, because America intact would present insurmountable opposition to any nation that had such lofty goals. Another more obvious motive is unimaginable profit. Causing the economy to crash right now will cause the biggest transfer of wealth in the planet’s history. Rothschild banks, like the U.S. Federal Reserve, have instigated this horror many times in the past, most recently in 1929, when they made a killing by triggering the great depression.
If you’re still following this madness, you’ve noticed I’m suggesting that Israel is using its control of American politicians toward the destruction of America, to rid itself of opposition in its quest to rule the world. Admittedly, this line of reasoning might sound a little far-fetched, but it happens to be strongly supported by documentation, historic precedent, and much of what’s happening today.
Either way, the next questions that arise on the road to making sense of this are; "If Israel rules America, who rules Israel?" And "Why would I think they want to rule the world?" To begin addressing part one, Israel was created by Zionists, and has always been ruled by them. Zionism is a political movement that seeks to return Jews to the holy land, and although this goal seems innocent enough, their means of achieving it have killed millions, and their hidden agenda is nothing short of horrifying. Although most of the world recognizes Israel as a "Jewish state," what most people don’t know is that in Israel, there is widespread discrimination against many Jews, and this discrimination is carried out, oddly enough, by other Jews, namely the above-mentioned Zionist Jews.
Obviously, we are now talking about a division in the group of people the gentile world refers to as "Jews," but to understand this division, we need to know something of their history. On one side of the division are Sephardic Jews, who are the descendants of the twelve tribes cast out of the holy land as per the story most people are familiar with, and on the other side of that division are the Ashkenazi Jews, who are of a different origin. Ashkenazi Jews are the descendants of the Kazars, who occupied what is known today as Kazakastan. The Kazars were a very war-like people who became a very powerful nation, and their king decided out of political convenience that his pagan population would suddenly become Jewish. Rabbis and teachers were imported, and the national conversion began in about 740 A.D. Seven hundred years later, they would be driven into eastern Europe by the Mongols.
Jewish law, as written in the Torah, prescribes that Jews are to remain in exile until their messiah returns to lead them back to the holy land, but it appears that the Zionists, who began as a small faction of Ashkenazi Jews, seem to be motivated by a quest to return to the holy land without divine guidance, and then name their own messiah rather than waiting around for one.
To some this would seem like a mere difference of opinion, and the many varieties of Christianity that are practiced in the United States demonstrate how any religious scripture might be interpreted differently by different sects, but twisting Jewish scripture in this direction makes it very convenient for any group of people who did seek to rule the world. Also, the sheer volume of bloodshed and horror unleashed upon the world by Zionism makes it necessary to look into this sect a bit more closely. When we do, we discover that this one small group of people has been responsible for most of the world’s problems over the last century, and have unspeakable horrors planned for our future.
It’s important to note here that I am definitely not suggesting that Jews are the cause of any problems, but instead I’m talking about a ruthless criminal sub-culture that hides among the Jews, and is also directly responsible for most of the persecution Jews have suffered. This ball of confusion started spinning for me after I saw a photograph showing a group of orthodox Jews burning a flag at a demonstration in New York. If they were burning any other flag I may not have noticed, but these Jews were burning the flag of Israel.
To answer part two of the question (Why would I think they want to rule the world?), we have the fact that it’s been their stated goal for centuries, and the last few years have saw them making huge strides in that direction. There’s also the disturbing truth that for all practical purposes, they already do rule the world.
If this information seems completely absurd to you, it’s because Zionists control every major newspaper, TV station, publishing company, and movie studio in America, which has basically given them a good grasp on your mind. They control the White House, the Pentagon, Congress and our Judiciary, as well as our supplies of water and food. To help expand their influence when America was young, Zionists also founded many of the Masonic lodges, the "illuminati," and they’re also responsible for the spooky pyramid on the back of your dollar bill proclaiming the "New World Order." That’s because the privately owned bank known as the U.S. Federal Reserve, is owned by Zionists.
The economy will crash, the poor will starve, and the dissenters will be jailed. Violence will erupt, and the U.N. troops will arrive to "protect" us. From that point on we will live as slaves under martial law, and like any other beast of burden, we’ll be allowed to survive if they need us to do their work for them, but we’ll certainly have no reason to live.
This quest to rule the world, whether it be called "The New World Order," or "One World Government," or if it’s sold with any other catch-phrase, has little to do with religion other than that its orchestrators are using the scriptures as a tool for carrying out their plans for global domination. They have always used religion as a tool for controlling the masses in the past, and it’s serving their purposes quite nicely today. The script, or scripture, was written long ago, and much of the world’s population can be counted upon to play one part or another. The scariest part of this is that some Jewish scriptures, known as the Talmud, the Zohar, and the Kabbalah are very racist in nature, and in some cases dictate the bloody demise of all gentiles. These scriptures will most likely be used to justify merciless depopulation efforts.
Just as Russia and Germany were destroyed by Zionism in the previous world wars, America will soon fall victim to even worse treachery, because we’re the last hurdle to jump on the track to global domination. The 9-11 deception, which the Israelis also had a hand in, was only a symptom of a much larger disease known as Zionism, and America is in the final stages of infection. We all need to get the big picture if we want to find a cure. America has no hope of surviving as anything other than Israel’s slave state unless a massive education project is embarked upon immediately. I thank you for reading this, and thank you in advance for passing it on. – Jolly Roger

"History is a collection of lies that are no longer being disputed" – Napoleon Bonaparte

There’s plenty of information on Zionism available at http://iamthewitness.com/ Download the interviews while you still can. Educate yourself and your neighbors today, and for God’s sake, arm yourself. America will prevail, but it won’t be easy.

Anything written by Jolly Roger is the property of the American people, and the author hereby grants permission to anyone who so desires to post, print, copy, or distribute this letter in its entirety, and in fact, the author encourages you to do so. – J.R.

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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:49:42 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Re: Dick Eastman and "The Jews"

David Mann is right. I recommend the Ralph Shoenman article on Zionism to
everyone.

I admit I have not been making the just discriminations.

Take over for me, David Mann, and I'll take that needed vaction and study
time.

Sincerely,

Dick Eastman

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From: "mann david" <dmann51@yahoo.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Dick Eastman and "The Jews"

> OK - Who in this world doesn't know the distinction
> between the the Jews and their historic betrayer, the
> Zionists ?? Answer - only the "Clash of Civilization"
> operatives and their apparently unwitting accomplices
> - e.g., Dick Eastmans. True, many Jews have been
> "brought up" (brainwashed) to support Israel. For that
> intellectual and moral slovenliness their will be a
> price to pay.
> But I would suggest to Eastman that he take a break
> from further posting and do some reading. How about
> some wonderful (Jewish) authors who have been fighting
> for decades to actually expose and destroy the Zionist
> Imperialist Fraud. (As opposed to his brand of lame
> bigotry and ignorant ranting.)
> "Hidden History of Zionism" - Ralph Shoenman -
>
http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/hidden_history_of_zionism.
html
>
> Zionism in the Age of the Dictators - Brenner
> http://www.vho.org/aaargh/engl/zad/zad8.html
>
> --- Dick Eastman <de1949@nwinfo.net> wrote:
>
> > No other interest group power is powerful enough,
> > dominant enough, pervasive enough to have pulled off
> > 9-11.
> >
> > Who controls the Pentagon? Who controls the White
> > House? Who controls the media? WHo has Mossad? And
> > who but ADL is up and ready for internet opinion
> > management?
> >
> > But we already knew this from the hard evidence.
> >
> > Dick Eastman
> > Yakima, Washington
> > http://bedoper.com/eastman
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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:34:04 -0000
From: "MarshaMcClelland" <mofmars3@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: "We The People" have had war declared on "US" by this corrupt administration. Th

"We The People" have had war declared on "US" by this corrupt
administration. This latest development concerning AT & T and the
NSA should be the final act brought to light, needed to do the
criminals in.

I have been targeted, too. I am suing on behalf of "We The People"
everywhere.

We must "Save Our Selves" by contacting our elected officials every
chance we get and speak our minds.

They work for us and better have our best interests at heart.

We are now the majority, mad as hell and bent on doing something
about those who don't!

Thank "God" for everyone with morals and ethics who are finally
speaking out with genuine "Truth."

We should especially thank those in media and the few handfuls of
elected officials who are standing for and with "We The People."

Thank "God" and goodness many from differing backgrounds are
standing for truth and revealing it continuously, as that will be
the force that saves us all.

I just saw on CNN news that there's an insider who blew the whistle
about AT & T having a secret room where they have our emails so the
NSA knows who to target in their "so called war against terrorism."

Of course, we're not the terrorists and thankfully most people know
who, exactly is, now.

Enclosed is an article on this matter concerning AT & T and the NSA.

Watch CNN and MSNBC news networks for updates on this and all
matters when you want to hear real "Truth."

Especially Lou Dobbs, on CNN at 6pm Eastern time and Countdown with
Keith Olberman, on MSNBC at 8 pm Eastern time.

And remember never to watch fox, giving them undeserved ratings but
keep tabs on their lies and spin so they can be held accountable.
You can do this by subscribing to>>>http://www.newshounds.us/. They
watch fox so you don't have to

This account I'm writing you under is one I've had for a couple
years but never used. AT & T is my carrier, so after this
communication, as it's going far and wide, I expect to have to call
for a new password as I'll be what they call, "red flagged," for
bulk email and what they call unsolicited email.

This is illegal on their part as all the rules are followed with
revealing who I am and a way to opt out from receiving information
from me.

I'll possibly be completely cut off from cyberspace, as has just
happened to my original account on March 29th.

If they shut me down permanently in getting this account too, that's
okay because there's a back up plan that will include much more then
some may have bargained for. So if I disappear for a while from the
net, please know that I'll be busy and back as soon as possible.

I was one targeted and shut down by AOL for human and civil rights
activism. Lost the 500 + patriot, spiritual and political groups
used for networking activism and so far have only been able to
rejoin about 30.

Hopefully, the ACLU will agree to take part in my case against AOL
and the perpetrators.

As well as two other attorneys, one of which is already retained. We
will follow through with the legal ramifications the culprits will
face for trying to silence my freedom of speech and activism work.

I have had to constantly call for a new password and reconnect to
the internet, over and over again for the past few months. My
computer was down more that it was up and running.

When they terminated the old wmconnect account (a branch of AOL)
they got this SBC account all messed up, too.

My email functions stopped working along with all kinds of problems
when I first attempted to use this SBC account.

I've spent many hours on the phone with tech help to get back on
line and fix all the problems, this last time...They really worked
overtime on me, crippling this account in more ways than one.

I leveled with one of the tech guys at SBC when I told him I'd been
informed by an honest tech from AOL, that there was a hacker causing
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Subject: NSA Intercepting ALL AT&T Customers Internet TrafficNSA
Intercepting ALL AT&T Customers Internet TrafficLiberties ,
Misconduct , NSA Wire-Taps , Privacy Ok America, have you had enough
yet? From LinuxElectrons.com: AT&T Forwards ALL Internet Traffic
Into NSA Says EFF"The evidence that we are filing supports our claim
that AT&T is diverting Internet traffic into the hands of the NSA
wholesale, in violation of federal wiretapping laws and the Fourth
Amendment," said EFF Staff Attorney Kevin Bankston. "More than just
threatening individuals' privacy, AT&T's apparent choice to give the
government secret, direct access to millions of ordinary Americans'
Internet communications is a threat to the Constitution itself. We
are asking the Court to put a stop to it now."EFF's evidence
regarding AT&T's dragnet surveillance of its networks includes a
declaration by Mark Klein, a retired AT&T telecommunications
technician, and several internal AT&T documents. This evidence was
bolstered and explained by the expert opinion of J. Scott Marcus,
who served as Senior Technical Advisor for Internet Technology to
the Federal Communications Commission from July 2001 until July
2005.The internal AT&T documents and portions of the supporting
declarations have been submitted to the Court under a tentative
seal, a procedure that allows AT&T five court days to explain to the
Court why the information should be kept from the public."The public
deserves to know about AT&T's illegal program," said EFF Legal
Director Cindy Cohn. "In an abundance of caution, we are providing
AT&T with an opportunity to explain itself before this material goes
on the public docket, but we believe that justice will ultimately
require full disclosure."The NSA program came to light in December,
when the New York Times reported that the President had authorized
the agency to intercept telephone and Internet communications inside
the United States without the authorization of any court. Over the
ensuing weeks, it became clear that the NSA program has been
intercepting and analyzing millions of Americans' communications,
with the help of the country's largest phone and Internet companies,
including AT&T. http://www.shadow-media.org/blog/

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 14:25:04 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: articles : Twelve business groups run Israeli economy -=- 109 m. Chinese work in manufacturing, cf. only 53 m. in G7 countries

From: "Peter Myers" <myers@cyberone.com.au>

April 9, 2006

(1) China announces plan to build 11 high speed railways
(2) 109 million Chinese work in manufacturing cf 53 million in G7 countries -
(3) Brazil looks to Chinese economic model
(4) Twelve business groups run Israeli economy - Forbes

(1) China announces plan to build 11 high speed railways

Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:59:05 -0400 From: "David Chiang"
<sino.economics@verizon.net>

China announces plan to build 11 high speed railways 04.07.2006, 08:27 AM
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2006/04/07/afx2654907.html

BEIJING (AFX) - China set out an ambitious blueprint for the construction of
over 12,000 kilometers of high speed railways to connect its major urban
centers, Xinhua news agency reported.

The plan calls for four north-south high speed lines, four east-west tracks and
three inter-city networks, Su Shunhu, a leading Ministry of Railway official was
quoted by Xinhua as saying.

Train speeds are expected to exceed 200 kilometers per hour on the new lines, he
said.

The plan was unveiled only days after the central government gave the go ahead
for two new high-tech, high-speed railway lines, with the rail ministry
announcing on Monday that the construction of a high-speed rail line between
Beijing and Shanghai would begin this year and that services would start in
2010. The expected costs for these lines are over 140 bln yuan.

Travel time between China's two most important cities will be cut from around 13
hours to five hours with the trains expected to reach speeds of 350 kms an hour.

Xinhua news agency also this week announced that construction of a 4.3 bln usd
MAGLEV line -- a high-speed magnetic levitation railway -- would begin this
year. The line will link the eastern metropolis of Shanghai with the tourist
city of Hangzhou about 175 kms away.

Last year, the government announced that it would spend 250 bln usd to upgrade
its rail system by 2020 with the Beijing-Shanghai line -- the first of the
north-south high speed lines -- and Shanghai-Hangzhou rail lines paving the way.

All the new lines will be double track and by 2020 China should have separate
networks for passenger travel and cargo, it said.

Other high speed lines to be built include the north-south routes of
Beijing-Wuhan-Guangzhou-Shenzhen, Beijing-Shenyang-Harbin (Dalian) and
Hangzhou-Ningbo-Fuzhou-Shenzhen, Xinhua said.

The four east-west routes include Xuzhou-Zhengzhou-Lanzhou,
Hangzhou-Nanchang-Changsha, Qingdao-Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan and
Nanjing-Wuhan-Chongqing-Chengdu, it added.

Meanwhile, the regional inner-city networks will be built in the Yangtze River
Delta near Shanghai, the Pearl River Delta in southern Guangdong province and
the Bohai Bay rim near the cities of Beijing and Tianjin.

newsdesk@afxnews.com

sai/cs/bmm/net/tc

(2) 109 million Chinese work in manufacturing cf 53 million in G7 countries -
Stephen Roach

Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:02:18 -0400 From: "David Chiang"
<sino.economics@verizon.net>

Global: China and the Global Labor Arbitrage

Stephen Roach (New York)
http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/20060407-fri.html#anchor0

China has come a long way in the 27 years since Deng Xiaoping launched the
world's most populous nation on a path of unprecedented reform. There have been
doubters at virtually every point along the way. Yet time and again, China has
stayed the course. The latest worry is that the land of surplus labor is rapidly
running out of workers - leading to excessive wage inflation and a loss of
competitiveness, with profound implications for China and the rest of the world.
Such concerns, like those of the past, are vastly overblown, in my view.

A front-page story on mounting Chinese labor shortages in this week's New York
Times sparked a flurry of incoming calls to our various China experts around the
world (see "Labor Shortage in China May Lead to Trade Shift," 3 April 2006). The
anecdotes that form the basis of this report are probably all quite accurate.
But the basic conclusion that low-cost Chinese labor is a thing of the past does
not stand up well to careful scrutiny. Yes, Chinese wages do appear to be rising
at a rapid clip right now. But the increase is coming off such a low level that
the cost relatives are still skewed dramatically in favor of China. Moreover,
this upsurge of Chinese wage inflation appears to have been accompanied by
exceptionally vigorous gains in worker productivity - suggesting that unit labor
cost pressures remain under good control. That means China's competitive
advantage remains very much intact.

A recent study published by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics puts the Chinese
wage story in context (see Judith Banister, "Manufacturing earnings and
compensation in China," from the August 2005 issue of the Monthly Labor Review).
The analysis is based on comprehensive wage statistics that cover the entire
Chinese economy; the only drawback is that this data set stops in 2002. Banister
does, indeed, find compelling evidence of a brisk acceleration of Chinese wage
inflation - a 12% annualized clip over the 1999 to 2002 interval versus average
gains of just 2.6% over the preceding five years. But this hardly represents the
beginning of the end for China. It turns out accelerating Chinese wage inflation
has done virtually nothing to close the wage gap with the developed world. Even
after four years of double-digit increases, average hourly compensation for the
overall Chinese manufacturing sector amounted to just $0.57 in 2002 - literally,
3% of the US hourly pay rate of $21.40 during that same year. Contrasts with
other nations were equally dramatic. Hourly compensation for Chinese
manufacturing workers in 2002 amounted to 25% of the pay rates of Mexico and
Brazil, 10% of the rate of Asia's newly industrialized economies (i.e., Taiwan,
Korea, Hong Kong, and Singapore), and just 3% of the norms of Japan and Europe.
Sure, there are differences when the Chinese wage aggregate is broken down into
pay by urban enterprises ($0.95 per hour in 2002) and by the more rural township
and village enterprises ($0.41). But that granularity changes nothing. Despite
several years of sharply accelerating wage inflation, China still enjoys an
extraordinary wage differential when compared with the rest of the world.

It is not all that difficult to extend Banister's conclusions through 2005.
According to the China Statistical Yearbook, average annual wage payments in
China rose 13% in 2003 and by another 14% in 2004; anecdotal reports, including
those in the above-cited New York Times article, suggest that increases in
Chinese wage rates continued at close to that clip though 2005. Given the likely
expansion of work schedules during this period, it is not unreasonable to
conclude that hourly compensation rose by slightly less than the gains in
overall wage payments over the past three years. That would suggest that the
inflation rate for hourly compensation in China's manufacturing sector over the
past three years might have held quite close to the 12% pace recorded over the
1999 to 2002 time frame. If that was the case, then it turns out the level of
Chinese hourly compensation remained at 3% of its US counterpart in 2005 - doing
literally nothing to close the enormous gap in pay rates between the two
nations. Nor does a worst-case sensitivity analysis alter the outcome in any
material way. Under the alternative assumption that Chinese wage inflation
doubled over the past three years - increasing by 25% per annum over the 2003-05
interval versus 12% over the 1999 to 2002 period - the level of Chinese wages
would only have moved up to 4% of the US norm. The math of small numbers
explains the persistence of this outsize differential: Rapid wage inflation off
a very low base does little to close the gap with higher-wage economies on a
moderate inflation trajectory.

But that's only half the story. Wages increases should never be assessed in
isolation. When making judgments about any nation's cost pressures and
competitiveness, it is essential to compare wage inflation with productivity
gains. It is not good if wage pressures mount while productivity remains
stagnant. On the other hand, it is perfectly logical - and in fact desirable -
for wages to rise in an economy that is experiencing rapid productivity growth.
China fits the latter outcome to a tee. Productivity growth in China's
industrial sector - manufacturing, mining, and construction - surged at an
average annual rate of nearly 20% over the 2000 to 2004 interval. That's well in
excess of the cost pressures implied by 12% gains in hourly compensation. That
means Chinese unit labor costs remain under excellent control - even in the
context of rapid and accelerating wage inflation. That, in turn, would limit the
pressures building on either the inflation or the profit margin fronts - doing
little to jeopardize China's competitiveness. Upward adjustments of the Chinese
currency could certainly alter the international wage comparisons over time. So
far, however, the roughly 3.5% move in the RMB has done little to alter this
calculus. Needless to say, a large revaluation - something the Chinese continue
to resist - would have a more dramatic impact on closing the wage differentials.

Nor do I buy the equally preposterous notion that China is running short of
workers, thereby risking a significant loss of market share to some of its
equally low-cost Asian neighbors. Over recent years, the industry share of total
employment has actually been stagnant to down in India, Indonesia, Malaysia, and
Taiwan. By contrast, there have been fractional increases in Thailand and the
Philippines. Moreover, it is important to note that China's state-owned
enterprise sector has reduced headcount by over 60 million workers since 1997 -
creating an enormous pool of unemployed workers that are seeking gainful
re-employment in China's new economy. At the same time, the Chinese leadership
has emphasized the expansion of the labor-intensive services sector as a key
element of the just-enacted 11th Five-Year Plan. If China were seriously worried
about labor shortages, it would have stayed the course with an increasingly
capital-intensive, labor-saving manufacturing model. All this is not to say
there aren't skill mismatches and other frictional dislocations that arise from
time to time in any economy - including China. For example, I continue to hear
anecdotal reports of shortages of young women needed for employment in China's
rapidly growing textile industry. But these are the exceptions, not the rule,
for a nation that continues to have a rural population of some 745 million - by
far, the largest pool of surplus labor in the world.

All this underscores the critical role China continues to play in driving the
global labor arbitrage - the cross-border migration of production from high-cost
to low-cost labor pools. China's enormous reservoir of low-wage factory workers
underscores the enduring potential power of this arbitrage. A companion study
published by the BLS puts overall manufacturing employment in China at 109
million in 2002 - more than double the total factory employment of 53 million
for all of the G-7 economies of the industrial world, combined (see Judith
Banister, "Manufacturing employment in China," from the July 2005 issue of the
Monthly Labor Review). Nor should the arbitrage be viewed as something that just
takes place at the low end of the occupational hierarchy. Currently, about
550,000 newly trained engineers and scientists graduate each year from Chinese
universities; in India, the count of such graduates is around 700,000 per year.
For China and India, combined, this represent a trebling over the past decade in
the entry flow into this segment of their high-skilled talent pool - pushing
their combined flow of new graduates in engineering and science to about three
times that in the United States. Courtesy of IT-enabled offshoring, the global
labor arbitrage is now at work in this segment of the occupational hierarchy, as
well.

I continue to believe that the hyper-speed of IT-enabled globalization is one of
the most destabilizing aspects of the global labor arbitrage. Pressures on
workers have moved rapidly up the value chain from manufacturing into once
nontradable services. Downsizing and wage compression are no longer just a
blue-collar phenomenon. Long-sheltered knowledge workers are now being impacted
by globalization for the first time ever. While the economic logic of these
shifts is fairly easy to grasp, the sociology and politics are not. Gains in
Chinese incomes and living standards have translated into powerful headwinds for
wages and labor income generation in the developed world. Therein lies the dark
side of the global labor arbitrage: With economic recoveries in the high-wage
industrial world becoming increasingly jobless, or wageless, or both, the
destructive forces of protectionism have reared their ugly head in both the
United States and Europe. That's hardly an inconsequential development for a
world beset with record current account imbalances.

The power of the global labor arbitrage has not been diminished by Chinese wage
inflation. This could well be a key test of the world's commitment to
globalization. For its part, China needs to do a better job in understanding the
global implications of its dramatic emergence. And we in the developed world
need to do a better job in equipping our workers with new skills and tools to
meet the global challenge head on.

(3) Socialist Brazil looks to Chinese economic model

Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 07:32:20 -0400 From: "David Chiang"
<sino.economics@verizon.net>

Chinese influence in Brazil worries US

By Humphrey Hawksley BBC Newsnight, Sao Paulo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4872522.stm

While the United States has been fighting its war on terror, a new political
idea has begun to punch through with such weight that alarm bells have begun
ringing loudly in Washington.

Under the slogan of "peaceful rising", China is selling itself to the developing
world as an alternative model for ending poverty.

The pitch is now winning an audience in Latin America, and Washington is
despatching the assistant secretary of state responsible for the region, Thomas
Shannon, to Beijing to find out what is going on.

His aim is to negotiate the precise line which China must not cross in creating
its new strategic alliance with Latin America, which has seen billions of
dollars of Chinese money earmarked for infrastructure, transport, energy and
defence projects there.

"We want to make sure we don't get our wires crossed," said one official
arranging the talks.

The spectre of an encroaching China is made worse by a string of elections which
has produced populist and US-sceptic, left-wing leaders. During the Cold War
they would probably never have survived in office.

The latest may be retired army commander Ollanta Humala, who is leading the
opinion polls in the Peruvian presidential election due on 9 April.

"We're concerned about the leftist countries that are dealing with China," says
Congressman Dan Burton, the Republican chairman of the sub-committee on the
Western Hemisphere.

"It's extremely important that we don't let a potential enemy of the US become a
dominant force in this part of the world."

'Alliance of giants' While China pleads innocence, more and more voices in
Washington are chastising President George W Bush for failing to act as
decisively against China.

Every thing I do is with China now

Priscila Marques Brazil Businesswoman "As a nation we need to understand that
this Communist dictatorship is a government without a conscience," says Senator
Lindsey Graham who has recently been to China.

"The status quo cannot be accepted and tolerated by this country any more than
the Soviet Union's practices were tolerated by Ronald Reagan."

In Brazil itself, the view is very different. It is about two developing
countries, the giants of their regions, forming a natural alliance.

"It's wonderful. It's amazing," says Alexandre Solis, an aircraft engineer who
spent more than two years in the Chinese city of Harbin, setting up a joint
venture for the ultra hi-tech Brazilian Embraer commuter jet company.

"They wanted all the information we could give them because they are determined
to be best in the world."

'Nowhere else'

The flurry of China-Brazil business began less than two years ago after an
exchange of visits between Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva and
Chinese President Hu Jintao.

[China] has achieved the greatest victory in the history of human rights... It
has removed 400m Chinese people from poverty

Charles Tang Brazil-China Chamber of Commerce Since then China's influence can
be seen everywhere in Latin America: oil, gas, railways, ports, steel and -
worryingly for the US - defence.

In Sao Paulo, Chinese language classes are packed. Not only are students taught
how to speak Mandarin, but they are also guided in cultural habits such as
attending banquets and singing Chinese folk songs.

"Everything I do is with China now," says one student Priscila Marques, who runs
a freight forwarding company. "It's Brazil-China; nowhere else."

The nub of Mr Shannon's Beijing visit, however, is to determine how much can be
put down to simply business and how much China plans to export its own political
system and power.

"The Chinese government has achieved the greatest victory in the history of
human rights," says Charles Tang, who heads the Brazil-China Chamber of Commerce
and who has been behind many of the joint-venture initiatives.

"It has removed 400 million Chinese people from poverty and enabled them to live
with dignity and take part in economic life. That is the true measure of human
rights.

"Brazil should analyse why China grows so much and Brazil so little."

Monroe doctrine

Washington's political protectionism of Latin America dates as far back as 1823
when President James Monroe decreed that no foreign power would have more
influence there than the US itself.

The Monroe Doctrine was last used in earnest during the Cold War, when just
about every Latin American country which veered to the left - from Chile to
Nicaragua - experienced some form of US intervention.

This time, as China gathers confidence, ideological debate will be over which
economic system - Western democracy or Chinese authoritarianism - delivers more
people from poverty, and whether wealth or elections are a greater measure of
freedom.

In Beijing and Washington it might be viewed as a contest of ideas, but on the
ground in Latin America it could turn into something darkly familiar.

"We should always look at Latin America in relation to the Monroe Doctrine,"
says Congressman Burton.

"There already are [Chinese] military exchanges and hardware being sold - or
given to Latin American countries. You can rest assured the US is going to do
everything it can to make sure this hemisphere is safe."

(4) Twelve business groups run Israeli economy - Forbes

Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 05:21:43 +0100 From: Rowan Berkeley
<rowan.berkeley@googlemail.com>

Forbes Israel: 12 groups run economy

By Zev Stub, JPost, Apr. 3, 2006
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1143498787752&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Twelve business groups control the Israeli economy, making it one of the most
concentrated in the world, Forbes Israel said in a report published Sunday.

The groups - controlled by Sami Ofer, Nochi Dankner, Shari Arison, the
Cerberus-Gabriel consortium, Charles Bronfman, Yitzchak Tshuva, the Saban group,
Lev Leviev, Matthew Bronfman, Tzadik Bino, the Borovich family, and Eliezer
Fishman - have each put together empires of the largest companies in Israel,
using organizational structures that have since been eliminated in other parts
of the Western world, the report said.

"This is an economy in which the banks can control whole corporations and where
the country is afraid of its capital holders," said Ben-Gurion University
professor Daniel Maman.

These 12 groups own 60 percent of the aggregate market value of all Israeli
public companies (when the exceptionally-large Teva Pharmaceutical Industries is
excluded), with shares valued at some NIS 200 billion, Forbes Israel showed.

The groups achieved their control by structuring their holdings like pyramids,
such that the top-level holding company controls different groups of companies
through descending layers of ownership.

The report noted that these types of organizations were eliminated in the US in
the 1930s, through a series of restrictions on ownership, as well as double
taxation of dividends paid by a company to its parent organization.

However, Maman noted that "In Israel, the issue is not economic, but political.
In order to change this here, we would need a coalition to lead the way, and no
such effort currently seems feasible." In lieu of that, regulators at the Israel
Securities Authority or the Bank of Israel could lead a campaign, "but I don't
see that happening either," Maman said.

Separately, nine Israeli companies made Forbes' list of the world's 2000 largest
public companies, published over the weekend.

The international financial magazine ranked Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, the
world's largest generic drug company, at number 722 on the list, which ranked
companies using sales, profits, assets, and market capitalization. Following
close behind was Bank Hapoalim, at 725.

The second of four Israeli banks on the list, Leumi, came in at 793. Further
down the list was Israel Corporation (1,409), Check Point Software (1,634),
Israel Discount Bank (1,638), Mizrahi-Tefahot Bank (1,771), IDB Holdings
(1,814), and FIBI Holdings (1,854). Of these, all but Check Point are traded on
the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. Teva and Check Point are traded in the US, and
Hapoalim is dual listed in London with plans to issue an ADR in the US shortly.

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Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 14:28:04 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Fw: Chinese economic model for Latin America alarms US -=- racist Purim -=- Lawyer bodily removed from Zundel trial -=-Japan's investment in China increasing as others' is declining

From: "Peter Myers" <myers@cyberone.com.au>
April 8, 2006

(1) Purim
(2) Lawyer bodily removed from Zundel trial
(5) Chinese economic model for Latin America alarms US
(6) Japan's investment in China increasing as others' is declining

(1) Purim

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:25:55 +0500 From: "Eric Walberg" <eric@albatros.uz>

funny about Purim. My Russian Orthodox educated nghbr, Liudmilla, who otherwise
seems intelligent, posted a poster about March 8 International Women's Day in
our stairwell and traced the origins to Purim (!). I looked it up and found that
it is the most racist and bloodthirsty of all J holidays. How my poor 'cultured'
nghbr came up with this crap about Purim as a 'celebration of deliverance' and a
cheery light-hearted festival and precursor of IWD is beyond me.

We have had other terrible things happening on our stairwell due to an evil
violent tenant terrorizing us, resulting in the death of my sweat Korean nghbr,
so I didn't even raise this Purim BS with Liudmilla. Now my mailbox is deluged
with exposes of it and Esther.

Down with the OT! Down with Esther! Down with J racism!

(2) Lawyer bodily removed from Zundel trial

Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 04:27:26 +0100 From: Rowan Berkeley
<rowan.berkeley@googlemail.com>

Lawyer bodily removed from Zundel trial

Toronto Star, Apr. 5, 2006
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1144233787250&col=968705899037&call_page=TS_Ontario&call_pageid=968256289824&call_pagepath=News/Ontario

MANNHEIM, Germany (AP) - A defence lawyer of far-right activist Ernst Zundel,
charged with denying the Holocaust, was physically carried from the courtroom
Wednesday after defying a ruling banning her from the trial on grounds she tried
to sabotage the proceedings. Two female police officers had to carry Sylvia
Stolz from the Mannheim courtroom after she refused the judge's order to leave.
"Resistance! The German people are rising up," Stolz shouted as she was taken
from the room. Some of the scores of supporters of Zundel, a 66-year-old German
deported from Canada, also quit the courtroom. Zundel, who emigrated to Canada
in 1958 and lived in Toronto and Montreal until 2001, has been standing trial
since November on charges of years of anti-Semitic activities including denying
the Holocaust - a crime in Germany - in documents and on the Internet. The
presiding judge halted the trial on March 9 to ask for Stolz's removal after she
denounced the court as a "tool of foreign domination" and described the Jews as
an "enemy people" in earlier sessions.

(5) Chinese economic model for Latin America alarms US

Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:27:11 -0400 From: "David Chiang"
<sino.economics@verizon.net>

US alarm at China's Latin influence

By Humphrey Hawksley BBC News, Washington and Brazil
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/4865122.stm

The United States and China will talk next week about China's growing
involvement in Latin America. In the past two years China has invested billions
in the region - which Washington has, up to now, regarded as its sphere of
interest.

Charles Tang cuts an arresting figure. He negotiates the uneven Sao Paulo paving
stones in his well-cut pin stripe suit, tall, alert, wearing the smile of a man
who believes in his vision.

Latin music seeps out from a nearby building, and Tang appears to sway in time
with it, a child of the Chinese revolution who walks and thinks like a
Brazilian.

He left Mao's China as a baby, went to Hong Kong, then to the US, became a
banker and 30 years ago fell in love with Brazil.

He now chairs the Brazil-China Chamber of Commerce, and has a direct line to the
Brazilian and Chinese leadership. He is also behind a series of initiatives
which is setting off alarm bells in Washington, where increasingly China is
compared to the Cold War Soviet Union.

"The Chinese government has removed 400 million people from poverty," says Tang,
"They participate in economic life and live with dignity." "So that could be a
model for Brazil?" I asked. "Absolutely", he said. "Because that is the true
victory for human rights. That's what human rights are all about." In Tang's
view, the Chinese way of doing things outstrips any formula laid down by Western
democracies and the International Monetary Fund.

Chinese investment

China's economic growth, for example, is four times that of Brazil. Since an
exchange of visits between Brazil's left-leaning President, Lula da Silva and
China's President Hu Jintao two years ago, Chinese money has been pouring into
Latin America, transport, energy, ports, steel - all under the umbrella of a new
strategic partnership.

After meeting Tang, I ended up in the Brazilian heat, shoes clogged with
ploughed earth, in a field where sugar cane was being planted.

The cane is made into the bio-friendly fuel ethanol, and Tang wants to broker a
deal to sell ethanol to China. The workers there, heads covered against the sun,
faces grained with a life on the land, get paid seasonally by how much they
plant or harvest.

"What about the new markets in China?" I asked. They had heard about them. "The
more work we get, the more money we earn," said one of the older men, his
expression impassive. He took off his hat, wiped his brow and stared at the
ground. The others nodded. "How many of you support Lula?" I asked. Blank looks.
The manager escorting us nervously pushed dead cane with his foot. Afterwards,
my interpreter explained. "They don't understand politics or political systems.
Most of them are illiterate.

It's extremely important that we don't let a potential enemy of the United
States become a dominant force in this part of the world Republican Congressman
Dan Burton "You've got to remember Brazil is a Third World country with one of
the world's widest social gaps." The day before, in Sao Paulo, I had been
sitting with Francisco Marten, a supermarket worker, whose real interest is
politics.

He is a slight man who walks the pot-holed streets of his poor neighbourhood,
deep in thought, head down, bag slung over his shoulders.

While we talked, children played barefoot in the road; men drank at a makeshift
bar; cheers from a soccer game came over the rooftops.

Francisco was once a supporter of President Lula.

Left-leaning

Now, feeling betrayed by him, he has joined a hard left movement, the Socialist
Urban Workers Party. "What about this political mood in Latin America with all
these left-wing leaders winning?" I asked. "More of it will happen," he says.
"It's about education. It is a cry from the people to invest in education so
they can move on and know about their rights."

Francisco clarified two apparently separate strands - from Charles Tang and from
the sugar cane workers - that have become that single thread which has made
Washington sit up and take notice.

The previous week I had been in the US capital hearing Dan Burton the Republican
Congressman who chairs the committee on Latin America.

He was telling me communist Chinese money coupled with the rise of leftist
leaders were worrying him. "Chavez, Castro, Ortega, Morales in Bolivia and their
connection with communist China," he said. "I think we need to pay particular
attention to that."

As far back as 1823, the United States introduced a policy for Latin America
known as the Monroe Doctrine, decreeing that no foreign power could have more
influence there than the US itself.

It was last used in earnest during the Cold War. "Is there a line which you
wouldn't let China cross?" I asked Mr Burton. "There are already military
exchanges and hardware being sold, or given, to Latin American countries," he
said. "We're watching that very closely and deciding on what we would do if and
when things go too far." He paused, then went on to underline his point. "We
should always look at Latin America in relation to the Monroe Doctrine. "It's
extremely important that we don't let a potential enemy of the United States
become a dominant force in this part of the world."

(6) Japan's investment in China increasing as others' is declining

Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 07:26:39 -0400 From: "David Chiang"
<sino.economics@verizon.net>

Japan's investment in China jumps to record high in 2005
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/04/03/1530275.htm

(Japan Economic Newswire Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge)BEIJING, April 3_(Kyodo) _
Japanese investment in China in 2005 jumped 19.8 percent from a year earlier to
a record-high $6.5 billion, even as investment from the United States and South
Korea dropped, a Japanese government-linked trade organization said Monday.

Japanese investment grew in the latter half of the year, as companies that had
held back due to the anti-Japan demonstrations in April 2005 regained confidence
in the Chinese market, said a report by the Japan External Trade Organization's
Beijing office.

Other reasons for the surge include a series of large-scale investments by
Japanese automakers, which prompted car parts companies to set up manufacturing
bases in China, the report said.

Electronics makers also continued to invest in the country, as they bolstered
their manufacturing capacities for products intended for the Chinese market,
according to the report.

Deregulatory measures taken in 2005 that allowed the establishment of 100
percent foreign-owned wholesale and retail companies in China also prompted more
investment from Japan, the report said.

While Japan's investment increased, those from other major countries and areas
fell, including Hong Kong, South Korea and the United States, partly in reaction
to the surge in investment in 2004, according to the report.

Investment from Hong Kong fell 5.5 percent to $17.9 billion, while that from
South Korea dropped 17.3 percent to $5.2 billion and that from the United States
decreased 22.3 percent to $3.1 billion, the report said.

China's entire foreign direct investment in 2005 came to $60.3 billion, down 0.5
percent from a year earlier.

The report said that while last year's anti-Japan demonstrations in Chinese
cities prompted Japanese companies to consider diverting some of their
investments to other countries, China continues to be an important focus for
Japanese investment.

"Japanese companies have renewed their recognition regarding the risks of
investing in China," the report said.

"But we expect no changes in the situation under which China remains Japanese
companies' focus of investment" as the country already serves as Japan's
manufacturing base, and its vast market remains attractive to Japanese
companies, the report said.

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