What farking "professional" opinion?
He's a guy. An intelligent guy who happened to have a video cam and the
sense to go set it up and record the events around him.
The Jetcrash footage is fake. Fake, fake fake.
It takes a human with their eyes attached to their brain without
intervening dogma, not "professional" opinion.
If Learned Scholars decide that it's ok for a "plane" to remain the same
size when tracked clear from Brooklyn, it will still be a cartoon,
whatever their "professional" opinion.
But yes, he's saying it's an obvious fake.
alexldent wrote:
> I apologize if I am being slow on the uptake here, but is Rick Siegel
> here giving his professional opinion that the sceond hit footage was
> faked?
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Apologies Re: SHOULD 9/11 RESEARCH BE LIMITED?
>> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:19:26 +0100
>> From: Rick Siegel <rick@...>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for kind words.
>>
>> OK, I see many of the anomalies you are talking about (I think)
>>
>>
>>
>> 1 there are two projectiles that are coming out of the right hand
>>
> side of
>
>> the video well after the explosion. The timing of which is really
>>
> not right
>
>> for the speed of the "airplane" on entry to eject such objects. I
>>
> guess that
>
>> is your "what's it"? It certainly qualifies for that and I would
>>
> give it a
>
>> "what the hell is that and where is it now?"
>>
>>
>>
>> The animation is what we in that business would call cheesy and
>>
> really badly
>
>> done. Some of you may know I spent a year as Director of Online
>>
> Interactive
>
>> at MTI Image Group the stage and special effects company for Viacom
>>
> in NYC.
>
>> We did most of Stephen King's films, Judge Dredd, SciFi Channel,
>>
> Fox, MTV,
>
>> Riki Lake, as well as the famous bubble bath cleaner commercials. We
>>
> had
>
>> rooms filled with SGI super computers, farms to render full frame
>>
> for the
>
>> film industry and the artists that did that work. It would be easy
>>
> to do
>
>> that piece in real-time much less the 7 minute delay the media was
>>
> under
>
>> that day. That also may explain the sloppy work.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is very cheesy work, much you have seen just in the size of the
>>
> object.
>
>> The fact that they took little care of the breakup near the building
>>
> to keep
>
>> the shape shows the artists did not care, or perhaps cared enough to
>>
> make
>
>> sure it was noticeable.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am in exile here in Europe, and cannot contact old friends in that
>> industry since it has been so many years. Exactly how it might be
>>
> done could
>
>> be easily done though these people. Just find some Mac animators
>>
> that have
>
>> worked on film quality or TV (this is not a film quality job).
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess I expect all things to be true, showing fake stuff is just as
>> important and you taught me a good lesson.
>>
>>
>>
>> You realize this would probably be a real video altered (look at all
>>
> that
>
>> pixel breakup). The verification of location of the camera is
>>
> essential to
>
>> find out which parts are real - specially if you want to engage in what
>> those objects leaving the scene on the left were. There are a lot of
>>
> video
>
>> of "something" flying out the exit hole on that hit, that is the
>>
> first one
>
>> that shows something that looks like an in tact object of oblong and
>>
> rounded
>
>> at that. My immediate thought would be escape pod for the perps. But
>>
> then I
>
>> worked on Judge Dredd.
>>
>>
>>
>> Did you order the full resolution BetaCam clone from CNN?
>>
>>
>>
>> Probably a very stupid question. You all know that the $38 a second
>>
> offered
>
>> for any footage of the event ate up almost every real piece of footage
>> available at that time. I never got the planes hitting or saw that
>>
> part,
>
>> still in the shower. The researchers I work with told me the stuff that
>> comes from the networks arrives with missing footage and station ID
>>
> tags
>
>> over important parts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do all of you know that there was a Russian TV station right across the
>> river in Jersey City on the water who broadcast the whole thing from
>>
> their
>
>> studios over the satellites and much of that was what was seen raw
>>
> before
>
>> the censorship? Clearview I think within 2 months of the event
>>
> bought up
>
>> their station and archives. I would love to see their stuff. Also,
>>
> channel 3
>
>> news in NJ was with me at the Frank Sinatra pier with a full
>>
> professional
>
>> Betacam camera with sound engineers and sat truck to film the WT7
>>
> and that
>
>> footage is still not found.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have several minutes of night shots of the glow that night of Sept
>>
> 11,
>
>> 2001 that I never showed. It is interesting, but I don't think it
>>
> has value
>
>> so never released it. Also have some minutes of the next day. It was
>>
> just
>
>> burning and smoking. Months of it. So depressing it had me leave a
>>
> place I
>
>> really loved. NY was a great city for creativity.
>>
>>
>>
>> My question is if you are trying to prove this is a fake, it is most
>> probable. Do you need some special effects experts to qualify that? The
>> other object of course would come into question then too. That
>>
> object alone
>
>> gives reason to think it is real footage that is altered vs. a still
>>
> with an
>
>> animated plane over it.
>>
>>
>>
>> So much needed, location of camera, real beta footage, and a super
>>
> computer
>
>> to look at the frames. Then, what do we have for this value return?
>>
> Showing
>
>> CNN altered footage? Is more proof needed that the media in the US
>>
> is a tool
>
>> of the "powers"?
>>
>>
>>
>> But as you say, each stone is another. Or each nail another one in
>>
> their
>
>> coffin that may this time keep them inside it!
>>
>>
>>
>> I apologize again, the wife wants some quality time and I shall return.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://thewebfairy.com/911/bluebeam/newjetcrash.swf
>>> is a segment of one of the second hit cartoons.
>>> http://thewebfairy.com/whatzit/jetcrash
>>> was my first exploration of this footage.
>>> http://thewebfairy.com/911/inside911/jetcrash.htm
>>> is a larger version.
>>>
>>>
>>> An even longer version of the JetCrash Cartoon is at
>>> http://thewebfairy.com/911/video/collected/singleshot.avi
>>>
>>>
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