Monday, February 13, 2006

[911InsideJobbers] Re: next message from Rick Siegel

I apologize if I am being slow on the uptake here, but is Rick Siegel
here giving his professional opinion that the sceond hit footage was
faked?

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
wrote:
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>
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Apologies Re: SHOULD 9/11 RESEARCH BE LIMITED?
> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:19:26 +0100
> From: Rick Siegel <rick@...>
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>
>
> Thank you for kind words.
>
> OK, I see many of the anomalies you are talking about (I think)
>
>
>
> 1 there are two projectiles that are coming out of the right hand
side of
> the video well after the explosion. The timing of which is really
not right
> for the speed of the "airplane" on entry to eject such objects. I
guess that
> is your "what's it"? It certainly qualifies for that and I would
give it a
> "what the hell is that and where is it now?"
>
>
>
> The animation is what we in that business would call cheesy and
really badly
> done. Some of you may know I spent a year as Director of Online
Interactive
> at MTI Image Group the stage and special effects company for Viacom
in NYC.
> We did most of Stephen King's films, Judge Dredd, SciFi Channel,
Fox, MTV,
> Riki Lake, as well as the famous bubble bath cleaner commercials. We
had
> rooms filled with SGI super computers, farms to render full frame
for the
> film industry and the artists that did that work. It would be easy
to do
> that piece in real-time much less the 7 minute delay the media was
under
> that day. That also may explain the sloppy work.
>
>
>
> This is very cheesy work, much you have seen just in the size of the
object.
> The fact that they took little care of the breakup near the building
to keep
> the shape shows the artists did not care, or perhaps cared enough to
make
> sure it was noticeable.
>
>
>
> I am in exile here in Europe, and cannot contact old friends in that
> industry since it has been so many years. Exactly how it might be
done could
> be easily done though these people. Just find some Mac animators
that have
> worked on film quality or TV (this is not a film quality job).
>
>
>
> I guess I expect all things to be true, showing fake stuff is just as
> important and you taught me a good lesson.
>
>
>
> You realize this would probably be a real video altered (look at all
that
> pixel breakup). The verification of location of the camera is
essential to
> find out which parts are real - specially if you want to engage in what
> those objects leaving the scene on the left were. There are a lot of
video
> of "something" flying out the exit hole on that hit, that is the
first one
> that shows something that looks like an in tact object of oblong and
rounded
> at that. My immediate thought would be escape pod for the perps. But
then I
> worked on Judge Dredd.
>
>
>
> Did you order the full resolution BetaCam clone from CNN?
>
>
>
> Probably a very stupid question. You all know that the $38 a second
offered
> for any footage of the event ate up almost every real piece of footage
> available at that time. I never got the planes hitting or saw that
part,
> still in the shower. The researchers I work with told me the stuff that
> comes from the networks arrives with missing footage and station ID
tags
> over important parts.
>
>
>
> Do all of you know that there was a Russian TV station right across the
> river in Jersey City on the water who broadcast the whole thing from
their
> studios over the satellites and much of that was what was seen raw
before
> the censorship? Clearview I think within 2 months of the event
bought up
> their station and archives. I would love to see their stuff. Also,
channel 3
> news in NJ was with me at the Frank Sinatra pier with a full
professional
> Betacam camera with sound engineers and sat truck to film the WT7
and that
> footage is still not found.
>
>
>
> I have several minutes of night shots of the glow that night of Sept
11,
> 2001 that I never showed. It is interesting, but I don't think it
has value
> so never released it. Also have some minutes of the next day. It was
just
> burning and smoking. Months of it. So depressing it had me leave a
place I
> really loved. NY was a great city for creativity.
>
>
>
> My question is if you are trying to prove this is a fake, it is most
> probable. Do you need some special effects experts to qualify that? The
> other object of course would come into question then too. That
object alone
> gives reason to think it is real footage that is altered vs. a still
with an
> animated plane over it.
>
>
>
> So much needed, location of camera, real beta footage, and a super
computer
> to look at the frames. Then, what do we have for this value return?
Showing
> CNN altered footage? Is more proof needed that the media in the US
is a tool
> of the "powers"?
>
>
>
> But as you say, each stone is another. Or each nail another one in
their
> coffin that may this time keep them inside it!
>
>
>
> I apologize again, the wife wants some quality time and I shall return.
>
>
>
>
>
> > http://thewebfairy.com/911/bluebeam/newjetcrash.swf
> > is a segment of one of the second hit cartoons.
> > http://thewebfairy.com/whatzit/jetcrash
> > was my first exploration of this footage.
> > http://thewebfairy.com/911/inside911/jetcrash.htm
> > is a larger version.
> >
>
> > An even longer version of the JetCrash Cartoon is at
> > http://thewebfairy.com/911/video/collected/singleshot.avi
> >
>


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