Saturday, May 13, 2006

[september_eleven_vreeland] Digest Number 1357

Topics in this digest:

1. Vanishing Act
From: "norgesen" norgesen@yahoo.com
2. The central role of NSA in 9/11-where spooks meet truthlings
From: "civl ecco" civileconomic@yahoo.com
3. video - Cafferty: Dictatorship
From: "smacko" smacko9@comcast.net
4. video - Scarborough: Be Afraid, be very afraid
From: "smacko" smacko9@comcast.net

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Message 1
From: "norgesen" norgesen@yahoo.com
Date: Fri May 12, 2006 6:42am(PDT)
Subject: Vanishing Act

Thursday, May 11, 2006
Vanishing Act

When the cities are on fire with the burning flesh of men
Just remember that death is not the end
And you search in vain to find just one law abiding citizen
Just remember that death is not the end - Bob Dylan

Afraid I don't have time today to discuss these, but some stories need attention:

From Wednesday's Mirror the headline, "Have 200,000 AK47s Fallen Into the Hands of Iraq Terrorists?" (also see this thread on the RI discussion board):

Some 200,000 guns the US sent to Iraqi security forces may have been smuggled to terrorists, it was feared yesterday.

The 99-tonne cache of AK47s was to have been secretly flown out from a US base in Bosnia. But the four planeloads of arms have vanished.

Orders for the deal to go ahead were given by the US Department of Defense. But the work was contracted out via a complex web of private arms traders.

And the Moldovan airline used to transport the shipment was blasted by the UN in 2003 for smuggling arms to Liberia, human rights group Amnesty has discovered.

It follows a separate probe claiming that thousands of guns meant for Iraq's police and army instead went to al-Qaeda.

Amnesty chief spokesman Mike Blakemore said: "It's unbelievable that no one can account for 200,000 assault rifles. If these weapons have gone missing it's a terrifying prospect." American defence chiefs hired a US firm to take the guns, from the 90s Bosnian war, to Iraq.

But air traffic controllers in Baghdad have no record of the flights, which supposedly took off between July 2004 and July 2005. A coalition forces spokesman confirmed they had not received "any weapons from Bosnia" and added they were "not aware of any purchases for Iraq from Bosnia". Nato and US officials have already voiced fears that Bosnian arms - sold by US, British and Swiss firms - are being passed to insurgents. A NATO spokesman said: "There's no tracking mechanism to ensure they don't fall into the wrong hands. There are concerns that some may have been siphoned off." This year a newspaper claimed two UK firms were involved in a deal in which thousands of guns for Iraqi forces were re-routed to al-Qaeda.

The Moldovan airline is Aerocom, and yes, it's one of Victor Bout's.

It's always a bang-your-head-against-the-wall moment, reading again the play the incompetence theory receives, even from some of the Administration's harshest mainstream critics. But then, even to talk of an "administration" may be misdirection at this point, given how little representative government means in the United States these days, and how much of "national security" has been privatized into a global gangland of drugs and guns.

Like the tens of billions of dollars that have been "lost" in Iraq, planeloads of arms don't just "vanish"; not when the Pentagon contracts the work to an international criminal of Bout's untouchable stature. But Bout's name isn't likely to be mentioned in whatever coverage this story receives, before it sinks like so many others beneath the media's frothing triviality.

Meanwhile, a decision's been reached in the trial of Toledo priest Gerald Robinson. And it's guilty:

The Rev. Gerald Robinson appeared stony-faced as the jury's guilty verdict was read, and he blinked repeatedly and glanced at his lawyers before being led away in handcuffs.

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The crime occurred in the sacristy adjoining the hospital chapel in downtown Toledo on the Saturday before Easter in 1980. Investigators said the nun, Margaret Ann Pahl, 71, was strangled and then stabbed, with nine wounds on her chest forming the shape of an inverted cross, a well-recognized Satanic symbol.

An altar cloth was draped over her half-naked body, which was posed as if she had been sexually assaulted.

"It was about how he could humiliate her the most," prosecutor Dean Mandros said in closing arguments. "He left a message for everyone to see � maybe to God himself."

After the sentencing one of Robinson's tearful supporters "turned to Claudia Vercellotti, a local leader of the Survivors Network for Those Abused by Priests [SNAP], who had helped reopen the case, and told her, 'I hope you rot in hell!'"

From SNAP's statement on the Robinson conviction:

More than ever, police and prosecutors have the tools and the will to go after horrific crimes, even when the defendants are seemingly powerful individuals or institutions.

When victims and witnesses stay silent, nothing changes. When victims and witnesses speak up, at least sometimes a child is protected, the truth is exposed, and justice is done.

The murder weapon, Robinson's letter opener:

Finally, from an email, a follow-up on the reopening of the investigation into the Atlanta Child Murders:

Dekalb County Police Chief Louis Graham...the man who reopened the investigations last year, is mysteriously stepping down. And of all the people who the county is getting to find a replacement...is none other than Lee Brown, the original supervisor of the Atlanta PD, who was in office during the murders and the subsequent investigation.

SNAP is right in part. Police and prosecutors have the tools. The will is another matter. Some do, individually. But institutionally? That's still the domain of those who don't.

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/05/vanishing-act_11.html

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Anonymous said...

Then, of course, there is the evidence the jury did not hear about in the Robinson case...

Funny how some things are squirelled away by well-meaning prosecutors... Maybe because they hint at a larger conspiracy/network of abusers/satanic underground?

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starroute said...

And MEK -- the Iranian (not Iraqi) terror group in question -- is itself unquestionably a cult:

As the leaders like to boast, the Mujahedeen is a family affair. (''We have three generations of martyrs: grandmothers, mothers, daughters.'') Most of the girls I was meeting had grown up in Mujahedeen schools in Ashraf, where they lived separated from their parents. Family visits were allowed on Thursday nights and Fridays. When Iraq invaded Kuwait, many of these girls were transported to Jordan and then smuggled to various countries -- Germany, France, Canada, Denmark, England, the United States -- where they were raised by guardians who were usually Mujahedeen supporters. When they were 18 or 19, many of them decided to come back to Iraq and fill the ranks of the youngest Mujahedeen generation. Though ''decided'' is probably not the right word, since from the day they were born, these girls and boys were not taught to think for themselves but to blindly follow their leaders. ''Every morning and night, the kids, beginning as young as 1 and 2, had to stand before a poster of Massoud and Maryam, salute them and shout praises to them,'' Nadereh Afshari, a former Mujahedeen deep-believer, told me. Afshari, who was posted in Germany and was responsible for receiving Mujahedeen children during the gulf war, said that when the German government tried to absorb Mujahedeen children into their education system, the Mujahedeen refused. Many of the children were sent to Mujahedeen schools, particularly in France. The Rajavis, Afshari went on to say, ''saw these kids as the next generation's soldiers. They wanted to brainwash them and control them.'' Which may explain the pattern to their stories: a journey to self-empowerment and the enlightenment of self-sacrifice inspired by the light and wisdom of Maryam and Massoud.

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One has to wonder whether the bright fellows in our government and military who set up the deals with these people don't know what they are, don't care, or know perfectly well.

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jon said...

US outsourcing special ops, intelligence to Iraq terror group, intelligence officials say

The Pentagon is bypassing official US intelligence channels and turning to a dangerous and unruly cast of characters in order to create strife in Iran in preparation for any possible attack, former and current intelligence officials say...

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/US_outsourcing_special_operations_intelligence_gathering_0413.html

A country deserves the leaders it has, my friends...

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Message 2
From: "civl ecco" civileconomic@yahoo.com
Date: Fri May 12, 2006 1:12pm(PDT)
Subject: The central role of NSA in 9/11-where spooks meet truthlings


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Date: Fri May 12, 2006 10:11 am
Subject: [Fwd: Re: The central role of NSA in 9/11 ..... where spooks meet truthlings]

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Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: The central role of NSA in 9/11 ..... where spooks meet truthlings Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 01:24:11 -0000 From: Lynn Ertell <lynnertell@comcast.net> http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2890 Great work there. That really fleshes out the whole picture. --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...> wrote: > > > --- Urspr�ngliche Nachricht --- > > Von: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@...> > > An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com

> > Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: What is Duke Cunningham covering up? > > Datum: Fri, 12 May 2006 00:32:43 -0000 > > > > > Archbishop Col. Robert Bowman was Manager, Advanced Space Programs at > General Dynamics, responsible for the communications spacecraft product > line.

> > Culminating a 22-year Air Force career in 1978, Col. Bowman was Director of > Advanced Space Programs Development for the Air Force Space Division. >

> This alone reads like a close associate of NRO/NGA/NSA/NASA clan, > now 'outsourced' on purpose for a military limited hangout.

> > Bowman was also somehow pro-war Iraq, supportive of the troops. > He is one of the most intelligent speakers of the 911truth.org clan. > I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing - :) > > > > http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2890 > > > > >>>>>> > Hmmm... > Deconstructing the inner motives of opportunists, careerists, cash > swindlers, Cointelpro operators and plain old useful idiots ... > It's enuff to make one's head spin ...

> > Paul Thompson essentially packaged his "Timeline" (branding again) to > sell himself as a truthiness authority figure on 9/11. > Now just how does that happen ?

> > Did he start out honest and just get sidetracked, co-opted, bought off > or socially pressured ? > Or was he always calculating how to play the official limited hangout > as a long-term career plan ? > Or was he being worked by someone else at a higher level ?

> > It makes one dizzy to follow the twisted paths of people like Jim > Hoffman ... or Kyle Hence. > Can't get my mind around these people.

> > Here was this retired "Star Wars" director, Bowman, with his rank and > his medals and his Reagan-era credentials, on Internet Radio, arguing > that we shouldn't speak or act in any way that might be construed as > an "attack" on the motives and collaboration of all "the hard-working > patriotic professionals" people-ing our Pentagon, NYPD, FDNY, > CIA...you name it ..

> And then Bowman caps it off by advising us to get on board his > Congressional campaign, so he can "open up a Congressional > investigation into 9/11" ......

with a permanently corrupted and > compromised Congress, no doubt, ushered into office with > electronically rigged WWF election campaigns.

> > Lt. Col. Bowman IS NOT calling for the indictment and arrest of the > perps whom have already been identified by name (check out Team8 or > Morgan Reynolds)... ? > So what is Bowman's agenda ?

> I understand he started his breakaway branch of the Catholic Church > (shades of the kind of thing Mel Gibson is into) ... > So is Bowman angling for a bishopric ? > Or does he want to be elected Pope ?

> This retired high-ranking USAF officer can't be that clueless. > He is sheep-dipping 9/11 in intellectual dishonesty, rationalization, > false patriotism, compliance with corruption, treason and murder .. so > we won't "offend" all those "hard-working, honest patriots" at the > Pentagon, DIA, CIA, FAA ... > > Yeah.. Bowman is definitely NWO Presidential material.

> > Or what about this retired General Karpinski or Karen Kwiatowski ? > Just what social concerns burden their compliance with the official > version of 9/11 ? > > Is it all about the risk of losing a Federal pension ? >

> And as for useful idiots ... > Just who or what is behind a Janet Matthews ? > I refuse to believe that she writes her own script. > With all those kids to look after, how could she possibly have the > time ?

> Maybe we should just ignore all these people. > It's the false content of what they are saying that needs to be > exposed and challenged. > More than their puerile and bathetic personalities and motives .. >

> On the other hand, tracing their networks back up the line, may take > us directly to some 9/11 major perps. > Especially in the plot-line dept. > And wherever money, jobs, business, family connections and academic > ties can be traced. > > Then it's interesting because it becomes counter-Cointelpro. <<<






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Hayden and the NSA- the most ignored "9/11 connection"?

A 'rant' based on research, compiled between 2001 and 2006,
by ewing2001

Gen. Michael V. Hayden, currently Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence has also served as Commander of the Air Intelligence Agency and as Director of the Joint Command and Control Warfare Center.

But more important, he was also former head of the NSA (March 1999 - April 2005).

The role of the NSA regarding 9/11, and ironically also the 9/11 truth 'community',

is consequently dismissed and ignored by many '9/11 truthseekers'.

Apparently because some particular '9/11 authors'
and self appointed '9/11 activist leaders'
distracted too much with 'CIA, Cheney and the Pentagon'.



It was always clear, why.
To also delay or distract from all physical evidence, based on military operations, scripted by the NSA and their private contractors.

The NSA, but also the NASA had their eyes not only on the 9/11 "plotline"but also on the "military operation" of 9/11.
More closely than any other U.S. Government Agency.

The National Security Agency (NSA) has traditionally influenced
and been a very early and sophisticated user of the highest performance of commercial computer, storage, and networking systems.

That includes also the Internet and the internet "daisy committees" of the NSA.

These are unidentified online trolls, which nicknames share different I.P. addresses, though only impostering 'one and the same user'.

However this "user", represented with a nickname is also able to post 24/7 on particular discussion boards, apparently without any sleep.

The NSA can also basically login and monitor all important databases of the U.S., especially aviation databases.

Among them the National Flight Database (NFD).

Current data elements included are:

Airports and Heliports, Standard Terminal Arrival Procedures (STARs), GPS and RNAV (GPS) or Runways for airports that have a SIAP coded in the NFD.

Would the NSA 'log in' on the morning on Sep11th?

Sure they would.

That's why they also know, that the BTS database of the FAA already proves, that "AA77" and "AA11" did not exist on the morning of 9/11.

The NSA knew all alleged passengers on the morning of Sep11th.
They know this faster than the FBI or CIA.

They know which plane does exist and which doesn't.

They also know in real time, what really happened in NYC, Shanksville and at the Pentagon, because of less stress of 'competence'.

In other words, the NSA are important part of the perpetrators who 'did 9/11'.



"The CIA did 9/11" is instead distraction language of many "9/11 truthlings", based on a dried out old school meme of the 80s.

This meme often also includes other inane 'NWO'-drivel like endless distractions of esoterical traps like "MK-ULTRA" or "drug business", to water down the issue.

The 'CIA-talk' often distracts on alleged on-topic 'discussion forums' with other off-topics, which immediately deceive their online members with secondary 'research' or even pseudo-religious agenda, new age cults and other historical sideshows.

Often "CIA researchers" find themselves quickly among associates of "TWA800 researchers" or worse: "JFK researchers" or "moonflight hoax debunkers".

The strategy is obvious.

To distract from Sep11th with either paranoia or "80s conspiracy theories".

"The Mossad did it"-meme has a similar strategy, though it clearly distracts with other obvious agendas, often even conflicting each other,
which has the same purpose: Divide and Conquer.

Right after 9/11, self appointed "Mossad researchers", often end up
in debates on historical research from over 2000-3000 years ago,
which is even more effective.

The 'CIA distraction' also helps to stir a fight between
the supporters of the 'mossad distraction'
and the 'CIA-NWO' sensationalists,
often also accused as "zionists", especially if you deny ANY complicity of the Mossad.

But what has 'complicity' to do with the actual performance of the inside operation?

Basically the same complicity of the so called '9/11 cover-up'
can also be easily constructed with the dutch-, german-, saudi- or pakistani intelligence.

The result is an endless debate on whether the one or other agency had more orless participation into 9/11.

What almost noone realizes, all these 'complicities' refer in the majority to the plotline, not the military operation.

Therefore it doesn't matter if either CIA, BND, MOSSAD, Dutch Intelligence or "Able Danger" "observed" or "impostered" the alleged hijackers.

It all represents just the 'plotline' and distracts from
the controlled demolition or the so called "controversial" TV fakery research. (http://www.911closeup.com/nico/FAQ_planehuggers.html )


The "CIA connection" was also designed to distract from the private military-and intelligence contractors (PMCs), which already replaced and dominatedU.S. Intelligence anyway.

Another "distraction", not less effective, is the "Bush did it" meme,
which helps to distract with post 9/11' -"scandals" of the White House or Pentagon, to keep false hope campaigners or the complete 'anti-war movement' busy.

The same "bush did it" meme also automatically triggers other inane 'activist drivel' on prior knowledge red herrings like Jeb or Marvin Bush.

That's why also so called leftgatekeepers are still clueless about the real playersof many other new 'setups' against their own citizens:

Among them In-Q-Tel, Titan Corp., BoozAllen Hamilton, CSC/DynCorp, SAIC and many others.



The NSA has their own satellite surveillance trackers, developed by SAICand other private intelligence contractors.

(* see also
SAIC- power structure 9/11 and more
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1664)


On the morning of Sep11th, the NSA did not follow any particular standard government- and military procedure or any other logistics, therefore cannot be accused of "negligence".

There also was no "Rumsfeld around".
Neither a silly "Rove influence", "Cheney" or "Joe Wilson",
all carefully designed limited hangout puppets.

Truthlings and Gatekeepers apparently watched too many soap operas.
If the name isn't known to them, it isn't 'cool' to talk about.

That's why more important players of the 9/11 perps never arrived
on any '9/11 truth flyer', among them:

Douglas Feith, Stephen Cambone, Jay C Davis (ANSER), James Woolsey, Ruth David, James R. Clapper, Duane (Dewey) Clarridge, Andrew W. "Yoda" Marshall, Scott Myers, Eliot Cohen, Christopher Demut, Thomas S. Foley, Charles Holland, David Jeremiah, Michael Ledeen, Norman Podhoretz, Bruce P. Jackson, the Naudet Brothers, the Club of Rome, Raytheon and many others.

That's why also the role of the NSA is underrepresented in this 'truth movement', because much closer to the truth than anyone else.

That's why cointel-pro still succesfully runs or deceives the biggest 'activist' groups in the 9/11 truth movement.




Anyone knows, that the Heritage Foundation runs meetup.com,
where most of the 'activists' met in the first time?

Obviously the majority doesn't.

"Profile producers" are less important than "profile paranoia".

When 'Civil Right activists' try to distract with "controversial surveillance facts" on the NSA, they follow a clear script from their leadership groups, itself also infiltrated by government agents or sponsored by right wing think tanks, ironically also often close to the CIA.

The same or similar pattern can be also seen in the 'alternative media'.
Often cited in this connection:

DemocracyNow!, FAIR, Nation, PBS or truthout.org.

It not only helps as a gatekeeper distraction from 9/11,
it also helps to increase the limited hangout agenda
for the political theatre.

However the role of the NSA for both 9/11 'plotline' and 'military operation', but also 'disinformation front' and 'surveillance industry' regarding 9/11 'activists' is much more important.

It wasn't the CIA, but apparently the NSA with their most advanced high tech, which really was in charge of the so called "9/11 plotline".

However the official 'plotline' of 9/11 had nothing to do with the military operation.

The 'plotline' of 9/11 helped as most important distraction, even still in 2006.

While the 9/11 perpetrators used the CIA as helpful distraction idiots,
the NSA knew exactly who observed whom in the 'plotline' and when the 'military operation' would take place:

"Tomorrow is Zero hour" (September 10th, 2001)



More- http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2890

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Message 3
From: "smacko" smacko9@comcast.net
Date: Fri May 12, 2006 9:23pm(PDT)
Subject: video - Cafferty: Dictatorship

Cafferty: Dictatorship
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TSR-Cafferty-Dictatorship-5-11-06.wmv

Cafferty: Dictatorship

Jack Cafferty didn't hold back today:

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Cafferty: We all hope nothing happens to Arlen Specter, the Republican head of the Senate Judiciary Committee, cause he might be all that stands between us and a full blown dictatorship in this country. He's vowed to question these phone company executives about volunteering to provide the government with my telephone records, and yours, and tens of millions of other Americans.

Shortly after 9/11, AT7T, Verizon, and BellSouth began providing the super-secret NSA with information on phone calls of millions of our citizens, all part of the War on Terror, President Bush says. Why don't you go find Osama bin Laden, and seal the country's borders, and start inspecting the containers that come into our ports?

The President rushed out this morning in the wake of this front page story in USA Today and declared the government is doing nothing wrong, and all this is just fine. Is it? Is it legal? Then why did the Justice Department suddenly drop its investigation of the warrantless spying on citizens because the NSA said Justice Department lawyers didn't have the necessary security clearance to do the investigation. Read that sentence again. A secret government agency has told our Justice Department that it's not allowed to investigate it. And the Justice Department just says ok and drops the whole thing. We're in some serious trouble, boys and girls"

Jesse has a round up of House members reactions...

Harman and Conyers just introduced a bill: "The Act would require any attempt to listen in on Americans or collect telephone or e-mail records to be be conducted in accordance with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA)"

How long does it have to take for our representatives to wake up and realize what this administration is doing? Turley last night made it quite clear. They violate every law that they do not like. They don't shy away from that position publicly either. The rubber stamp Repubs are just as guilty. Does anyone expect Specter to actually do something meaningful except to blow plenty of hot air?

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Message 4
From: "smacko" smacko9@comcast.net
Date: Fri May 12, 2006 9:24pm(PDT)
Subject: video - Scarborough: Be Afraid, be very afraid

Scarborough: Be Afraid, be very afraid
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/05/12.html#a8261

Scarborough: Be Afraid, be very afraid

Joe speaks out against the Phone scam. When republican pundits are so fiercely against this program, how long will it take for the American people to understand Jonathan Turley's outrage?
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Scarborough: Now, for liberals who've long been going against almost all of these issues to defend privacy, the news has to be disturbing. But no less so the conservatives who have fought national ID cards and gun registration for years out of fear of big government.

Now, whatever you consider yourself, friends, you should be afraid. You should be very afraid. With over 200 million Americans targeted, this domestic spying program is so widespread, it is so random, it is so far removed from focusing on al Qaeda suspects that the president was talking about today, that it's hard to imagine any intelligence program in U.S. history being so susceptible to abuse...read on"

Duncan: It's important to note also, of course, that being briefed on classified programs doesn't meant that Democrats can a) tell anyone about them or b) have the power to do anything about them. So to some extent the "they were briefed" is a bit of a red herring anyway.

SusanG lists a few more Repubs asking questions.

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