This is an article from Greg SZ.
While I have tremendous faith in the integrity of William Rodrigues,
Greg SZ is the one who faked interviews with Morgan Reynolds and Kay Griggs.
Willian Rodrigues was in the sub-basement.
He neither saw nor heard "an airliner."
He heard explosions and more explosions.
He heard explosions below and explosions above.
He did not "see" any plane, but assumed along with the rest of the world
that the later explosions were caused by a plane.
By now he is aware that wasn't necessarily so.
This does not change his testimony that there were multiple explosions.
This is Greg SZ building word-pictures of an airliner, using Rodrigues
as a hook and nothing more.
Sean McBride wrote:
> I am willing to treat respectfully anyone who is making an honest
> effort to try to figure out 9/11, and regardless of their current
> level of knowledge or whether they agree with me. All one asks is that
> they treat others respectfully and show some basic reasoning skills.
> With regard to the testimony of William Rodriguez, here is one
> rendition, and here is the key phrase: "heard and felt explosions rock
> the basement sub-levels of the north tower JUST SECONDS BEFORE THE
> JETLINER STRUCK THE TOP FLOORS."
> [begin excerpt]
> June 24, 2005
> By Greg Szymanski
> What happened to William Rodriguez the morning of 9/11 is a miracle.
> What happened to his story after-the-fact is a tragedy.
> But with miracles and tragedies comes truth. And truth is exactly what
> Rodriguez brings to the whole mystery surrounding 9/11.
> Declared a hero for saving numerous lives at Ground Zero, he was the
> janitor on duty the morning of 9/11 who heard and felt explosions rock
> the basement sub-levels of the north tower just seconds before the
> jetliner struck the top floors.
> He not only claims he felt explosions coming from below the first
> sub-level while working in the basement, he says the walls were
> cracking around him and he pulled a man to safety by the name of
> Felipe David, who was severely burned from the basement explosions.
> All these events occurred only seconds before and during the jetliner
> strike above. And through it all, he now asks a simple question
> everybody should be asking? How could a jetliner hit 90 floors above
> and burn a man’s arms and face to a crisp in the basement below within
> seconds of impact?
> Rodriguez claims this was impossible and clearly demonstrates a
> controlled demolition brought down the WTC, saying "Let’s see them
> (the government) try to wiggle out of this one."
> Well, they haven’t wiggled out of it because the government continues
> to act like Rodriguez doesn’t exist, basically ignoring his statements
> and the fact he rescued a man burnt and bleeding from the basement
> explosions.
> [end excerpt]
> Based on everything I've read to date, I believe that all three towers
> were brought down by controlled demolition, not just WTC7 (which was a
> painfully obvious act of controlled demolition). The demolition method
> may have been unconventional and have involved a still classified
> technology. I couldn't care less whether real planes were used in the
> operation or not -- to me that is a minor detail in the overall crime.
> Who committed this crime and why they committed it is what matters. An
> even more pressing matter is what they plan to do next, and how and
> when. They have telegraphed strong signals that they intend to
> detonate one more nuclear weapons in American cities, probably within
> the coming year, and possibly within the coming months.
> I am betting that there have been significant defections from the
> original conspiratorial group during the last year, as a result of the
> disastrous Iraq War, paralleling the defections of former
> neoconservatives like Francis Fukuyama from the neoconservative movement.
> If 9/11 was in fact an inside job, as it appears to be, the truth is
> probably going to come out.
>
>
> */Bill Giltner <bill.giltner@gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
> I hope others will join in, because I certainly don't claim to
> have the
> only replies to the questions:
>
>
>
> 1) I think your understanding or your statement of the Rodriguez
> story is a
> little off.... Or else mine is. I don't think he ever said the
> explosions
> he witnessed preceded the "impact". I've never really thought the
> timing
> mattered, only the rock solid testimony that explosions were
> happening that
> were impossible to reconcile as being associated with the impact
> of a plane.
> Maybe it is my assumption, but my reading was more of it being
> concurrent.
> In addition to Rogriguez, there are many eyewitnesses who lived to
> tell
> about the lobbies (are they called concourses?) of the WTC showing
> clear
> explosive events completely as odds with being an after-effect of the
> alleged plane impacts.
>
>
>
> 2) I have two answers. 1) The way one sees arranged
> mini-explosions that
> show little "geisers" coming down the sides of the building
> preceding the
> turn to dust / debris" events seem to be to parallel the vid
> footage of many
> controlled demos. 2) There are other signatures of unknown technology
> being used.
>
>
>
> 3) I've seen this postulated. If some official wants to come out and
> explain this precisely, and explain why we weren't told the truth
> here-to-fore, fine. There's still a gapping hole about why wtc7 was
> demolished, even so.
>
>
>
> And finally, as to why should I be rude. Here's why: If there are
> those
> who truly are just ignorant, and want to learn, there are many
> many avenues
> to start getting knowledge. I can't see this forum as 9/11 "101"
> class.
> Maybe I've misunderstood.
>
>
>
> The majority of posters who post disrupting and insulting 9/11
> ideas are
> disinfo agents. The Internet is crawling with them, especially now
> as the
> truth is being to gain currency.
>
>
>
> I don't see the harm in pointing out incompetents or saboteurs.
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: Sean McBride
>
> Date: 03/27/06 22:41:34
>
> To: political-research@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: Re: [political-research] Personal Attacks on Those Who
> Disagree
> with the No-Planes Theory
>
>
>
> What purpose is achieved by insulting someone who may well be
> making an
> honest effort to understand 9/11? Why not simply help the poster
> improve his
> or her knowledge of 9/11?
>
>
>
> A few points:
>
>
>
> 1. With regard to the alleged explosions which preceded the impact
> of the
> alleged planes and which were reported by William Rodriguez --
> what was that
> all about? A mistake?
>
>
>
> 2. Could the towers have been brought down by an advanced and
> classified
> military technology, and not conventional demolition explosives?
>
>
>
> 3. Were the towers prewired with conventional demolition explosives,
> according to some kind of classified official policy? One attempt had
> already been made to bring down one of the towers in 1993 -- other
> attempts
> were no doubt expected. Plans were probably in place to bring down the
> towers in a controlled way in case of terrorist attacks.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Giltner <bill.giltner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sean,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm going to cooperate with the "respect your fellow posters"
> request you've
>
>
> Made as much as I can...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In reference to "MrOsario's" post, I didn't think it deserved a
> response.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think the post was, seriously, a funny joke: Someone who had
> some reason
>
> To waste our time.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In any case, since you replied, I want to provide a "real" reply.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I respect your question: "test of common sense." However even
> though I
>
> Agree with the gist of your reply, I think "common sense" is way
> too loose
>
> Of a precept or concept of logic to apply here. To me, the
> likelihood of
>
> The truth of 9/11 using a test of common sense is only possible if
> one has
>
> Key facts at hand, and even with those key facts, I have to say, I
> have to
>
> Keep on challenging my preconceptions to try to allow for the real
> truth.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As an aside, when we watch a magician, we see things that "test
> our common
>
> Sense". It's only through being shown how our own intuitions
> mislead us at
>
> Times, that we comprehend how we've been tricked.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So, let me get to my points:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Point 1: When one watches the towers coming down, one clearly sees
> the
>
> Charges going off from the top down. The idea that those charges
> could have
>
> Been planted by Firemen on the top floors of the towers is absurd.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The originally poster is either:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A) ignorant of what the video evidence shows
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> B) believes his audience will be ignorant of what the video
> evidence shows
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I believe the above is only common sense if one has taken the time
> to study
>
> The demolitions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Of course there are many other reasons to consider the poster the
> most crude
>
>
> Of hooey generators:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Point 2: The physics of the crash and fires don't imply any kind
> of massive
>
> Failure of the tower structures. There's no reason to think they
> would fall
>
> Topple, or suffer any kind of structural failure.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Point 3: There is strong evidence pointing to bombs going off
> prior to the
>
> Collapse. The idea of these events happening in a way consistent
> with the
>
> Posters logic, especially the bombs in the basement is totally
> suspect.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> What your really have here is some Joe that takes us for a fool,
> or is one
>
> Himself.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sean McBride
>
>
>
> Date: 03/27/06 21:36:08
>
>
>
> To: political-research@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [political-research] Personal Attacks on Those Who
> Disagree
>
> With the No-Planes Theory
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If the towers were under threat of falling sideways from the
> impact of the
>
> Hijacked planes, then why conceal an operation to force them to fall
>
> Straight downwards? Why the necessity for secrecy?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Also, wouldn't some of the firefighters have spoken up about the
> operation
>
> By now?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Does this scenario pass the test of common sense?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> MrOsario <mrosario@rgv.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> The Twin Towers were to fall sideway and have a domino effect on
> the other
>
> Buildings thereby
>
>
>
> Killing around 140,000. So the decision was made to send in 200
> firemen with
>
>
> Bombs to set them
>
>
>
> At strategic places so that the towers would fall the way a
> building is
>
> Supposed to fall when it
>
>
>
> Is being demolished.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
> From: Sean McBride
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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