[political-research] [Fwd: Plane speeds, notes, sources.]

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Subject: Plane speeds, notes, sources.
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:31:45 -0800
From: malaprop <malaprop2@msn.com>

/" 757s don’t go that fast. The airplane will just not do that,” Russ
Wittenberg, a retired pilot with United and Pan Am airlines, told AFP.
"Its exceeding its air speed and mach speed limitations. The airplane
just won't perform those maneuvers. The mach limit for a 757 is about
360 knots at 23,000 feet," Wittenberg said. /

/Performance limitations on 767, 757.
//http://www.757.org.uk/767/limits/index.html/

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/"...considering that the air at low altitudes is much denser than that
at normal cruising height, the pilots greatly exceeded Vne ("Velocity
Never Exceed") and thereby risked disintegration of the aircraft by air
friction."

/"I spoke to a former Boeing 767-200 Captain about the aerodynamic
limitations of the Boeing 767-200 aircraft and he stated that it would
be unwise to exceed an indicated airspeed of 400 knots (460 mph at sea
level) at _any_ altitude.

"As mentioned before, the airspeed of 400 knots at sea level is well
outside the maximum operating speed of the Boeing 767-200 and therefore
the pilots would run the risk of either total structural failure or
localised structural failures, namely wing fairings breaking off, engine
cowlings breaking off, control surfaces breaking off or becoming
inoperative and handling difficulties...." [Icke and Grossman-- version
3.2 , Dec. 2005, of "Ghost Gun UA175" ]
http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/prod/dialspace/town/pipexdsl/q/aqrf00/ggua175/

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*ANALYSIS OF SPEEDS* *of "UA 175"*

Here is a list of UA175 speeds issued from official bodies that were
presumably calculated using video footage of the WTC2 strike:

Massachusetts Institute of Technology - 503 mph / 436 knots / M0.653

Royal Air Force - 575 mph / 500 knots / M0.750

Federal Aviation Administration - 586 mph / 510 knots / M0.765

National Institute of Standards and Technology - 546 mph / 475 knots /
M0.714

Federal Emergency Management Agency - 590 mph / 514 knots / M0.771

"the hijacking story was complete BS, an absurdity which no-one who
worked in the airlines believed......" Pilot of the big planes as told
to G. Holmgren.

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Flt 77 at Pentagon:

About the sharp descending turn made by the aircraft that hit the
Pentagon at ground level, Wittenberg said: "The only air vehicle that
could perform that would be a high-performance fighter jet, a remote
controlled jet-powered drone, or a cruise missile."

“The fuselage of a 757 did not open that 16-foot hole,” Wittenberg
said. “The aluminum of the fuselage would have crumbled like an egg
shell on impact. Aluminum doesn’t vaporize."

“There is no armor-piercing titanium on the tip of a 757,” Wittenberg
said. “The white flash in the Pentagon video is the explosion of a
high-energy explosive. The 12-foot hole is from the missile or the
single jet engine aircraft that carried the missile. If a 757 had hit
the Pentagon there would be two of these holes.”

"Boeing's not going to say," spokesperson Liz Verdier responded when
asked about the 757's mach limit, "What does it matter?" she said, "How
fast it was going is immaterial."

Asked about Partin's theory that an aluminum-bodied aircraft both
vaporized on impact and penetrated more than 9 feet of reinforced
concrete, Marion Fulk, a retired chemical physicist and depleted uranium
expert, told AFP: "I think what he's saying is nonsense…The titanium
engines would be more likely to penetrate than the fuselage."

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=70876

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About Partin's theory that parts of the aluminum aircraft vaporized on
impact while the thin-skinned fuselage bored through nine feet of
reinforced concrete, Paul F. Mlakar, technical director of the Pentagon
Building Performance Report sponsored by the American Society of Civil
Engineers (ASCE), told AFP, "I'm a little skeptical."

Mlakar, with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, thinks the 12-foot hole
in the "C" ring was caused by an "avalanche of debris." That's where the
black box was found, Mlakar said. The National Transportation Safety
Board (NTSB), who received the black box, told Mlakar _the plane was
traveling 460 knots, or 530 mph. The NTSB refuses to say anything about
the black boxes saying it has turned over all data to the FBI._

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malaprop aka izzy

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