Discussion about 09/11/2001: [911TruthAction] Digest Number 1112

Tuesday, February 07, 2006

[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1112

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06
From: Cathy Garger <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com>
2. Colbert exposes Richard Clarke as false opposition
From: Total Information <totalinfo@gmail.com>
3. Re: Re: New member ....... looks like a typical COINTELPRO errand-boy
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
4. Re: Re: New member ....... looks like a typical COINTELPRO errand-boy
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
5. Re: Re: Hello
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
6. RE: Hello
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
7. Getting on the offensive
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
8. Re: Re: Hello
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
9. Re: Hello
From: "Jolly Roger" <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
10. Re: Re: Hello
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
11. Hope this is not off-topic.....
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
12. Re: Getting on the offensive .... getting into some attitude...
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
13. Re: VoxPop & Sander Hicks for 2/20?
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
14. Re: VoxPop & Sander Hicks for 2/20?
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
15. .... cartoons, flags ..... and flaming pyro-technic Tower-ing infernos...
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
16. Re: Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
17. Re: VoxPop & Sander Hicks for 2/20?
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
18. Re: Re: New member ....... looks like a typical COINTELPRO errand-boy
From: Roland Croteau <rolandcro@earthlink.net>
19. Re: Re: Getting on the offensive .... getting into some attitude...
From: mann david <dmann51@yahoo.com>
20. Why no mention of the 2/20 protest in NY?
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
21. Re: Re: Hello
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
22. Impending Financial Crash?
From: janet phelan <jcphelan10@yahoo.com>
23. Re: Roland Croteau ....... typical COINTELPRO trash...
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
24. Re: Getting on the offensive
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
25. Re: Re: Roland Croteau ....... typical COINTELPRO trash...
From: Roland Croteau <rolandcro@earthlink.net>

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:47:30 -0800 (PST)
From: Cathy Garger <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06

Don't know if all of you receive this, but it is interesting to note that there is no mention yet about the 2/20 action in NYC. Do they perhaps not know about it yet? I am checking first as I don't want to re-invent the wheel and contact them about asking them to include the event in their next mailing if someone has already asked them to do so.

Also, I know that there is a film project going on, and thought that maybe they could use some help with someone in our group who is an expert on INSIDE JOB brand of truth? I mean, there is only one real truth, and I would imagine that a film about 9/11 truth would need to use the best researchers out there, right?

news@list.ny911truth.org wrote:
Hello all,

Here is a reminder of 2 events this week. As I'm writing, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez is speaking to the Senate Judiciary Committee defending the Bush/NSA secret spy program. First of all, his defending a program that he advised the p-Resident on is a blatant conflict of interest and he should have recused himself from any involvement. Now he's reinforcing the whole flim-flam of evil Arab terrorists mounting a formidable threat that puts us in a state of war. Bear this in mind as you read on...

NY 911 TRUTH BULLETIN BOARD

We have a bulletin board which is a great tool for brainstorming and news sharing. This is the place to go to engage in online dialogue with people in our activist community. Go to http://p105.ezboard.com/bny911truth and register. It's helpful to use the Global option which you'll see. Different sections can be set up for various focus groups or projects. See you there...

STRATEGY SESSION

Our next Strategy Session will be on Tuesday Feb. 7th, 7PM at the deli on 5th Ave. and 13th Street, south east corner, upstairs. We'll continue work on our letter writing campaign, work on 1-2 minute presentations, new visuals for street actions, and media outreach planning. Then we'll go out and do some public outreach for the legislative action project. Also, we'll have flyers for people to distribute throughout the week.

MAJOR FLYERING OPPORTUNITY

Here's an important event we'll want people to attend and flyer!

"Were We Misled?"
Wednesday, February 8
7:00 - 9:00 PM (doors open at 6:30)
NY Society For Ethical Culture - Concert Hall
64th St. & Central Park West

Join Brian Lehrer for a debate on prewar intelligence, featuring David Corn, Washington editor of The Nation and author of The Lies of George W. Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception; Bob Graham, former Florida senator (D) and chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee; Christopher Hitchens, author and columnist for Vanity Fair; and Bruce Jackson, co-founder of the Project for a New American Century, a nonprofit neoconservative think tank. Admission is free. Seating is first come, first served. For more information, contact WNYC Listener Services at 212-669-3333 or listenerservices@wnyc.org .

Who ever can be there and needs flyers, come to the Strategy Session on Tuesday mentioned above.

IMPORTANT RESEARCH PROJECT

Researcher and film maker Mike Berger from St. Louis feels that the NY Public Library has a lot of material including important photos about the construction of the trade towers. Does anyone have experience doing research there? If so, and you're able to spend an afternoon or so looking for these materials, please email me ASAP at jazzyday@earthlink.net.

FILM PROJECT INTERN OPPORTUNITY

Kyle Hence is looking for someone to help with some administrative tasks for his current film project on 9/11. This film could have a great impact. A lot of work and investment has gone into it. Please contact him at kylehence@earthlink.net ASAP if you're interested.

STREET ACTION MOBILIZATION

As you all know, not is the time to work harder than ever to inform the public about the official deception on 9/11. We're in the process of creating more effective visuals that make the point. We need people who have a couple of hours a month to get in touch and we'll form teams. Just say when you can participate and we'll do the rest. If even 15 more people come forward, we can literally change the public consciousness and create a cultural shift, which is ultimately what has to happen.

CITIZENS COUNTER-COUP

This coming Saturday will be February 11th. It will 4 years and 5 months since 9/11/01. This week and next we'll want to inform elected officials and media that We The People haven't been tricked by the government's Big Lie of 9/11. The site at http://3c.911truth.org is a platform from which we can put the political powers on notice, turn up the heat, as well as provide support for those in government that know we're under the assault of fascist forces who feel they cannot fight the corruption unless a large constituency is behind them.

The site will have some new talking points by Wed. For all who truly want justice for 9/11 and full spectrum progressive change, this tool has been structured to provide the leverage that we'll need. All it will take is your participation and your work in spreading the word.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed individuals can change the world.
In fact, it's the only thing that ever has."
- Margaret Mead

Truth will prevail,

Les
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:54:26 -0500
From: Total Information <totalinfo@gmail.com>
Subject: Colbert exposes Richard Clarke as false opposition

< http://www.total911.info/2006/02/colbert-exposes-richard-clarke-as.html >

Colbert exposes Richard Clarke as false
opposition<http://www.total911.info/colbertclarke.htm>

(*Total911.info*) -- Check out this
VIDEO<http://www.total911.info/colbertclarke.htm>from the
*Colbert Report* in December. Proving that Comedy Central is the
leader in cable news, Colbert takes mere seconds in dismantling the notion
that Richard Clarke is anything other than another establishment hack.
Clarke of course, is a darling of the left gatekeepers, vaguely criticizing
the Bush Administration on "terror" but maintaining the fiction of
Al-CIAdaAl-Qaeda as a real and significant threat.

Here's our partial transcript:

"STEPHEN COLBERT: I've got a theory about you, sir. You were the
counterterrorism czar. . . then you had a very public "falling out" with the
White House, then they "criticized you" and "impugned your character" and
now you're a "public gadfly" of the Administration... Isn't this just deep
cover? Isn't this sort of black ops stuff? Aren't you just red herring out
there to try to smoke out America's enemies now?

FORMER COUNTERTERRORISM CZAR RICHARD CLARKE: Well, if I were, you just
destroyed it.

COLBERT: I tell you what. If you are -- deny it!

CLARKE: It's not true.

COLBERT: Loud and clear.

--
www.total411.info
www.total911.info

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:03:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: New member ....... looks like a typical COINTELPRO errand-boy

the other thing i'd like to throw into the mix roland is that america was strong because she resisted the inbred satanist central banksters move to prop up a central bank on the united states. they weren't successful in capturing america until 1913......

janet phelan <jcphelan10@yahoo.com> wrote:
lt should be obvious to all of us that the engine running the show at this time is operating off of a very dark force. There is no religious system in the world that I am aware of that advocates torture in the name of any deity. Not to mention the other atrocities being perpetrated across our beleaguered globe. Personally, I think it behooves us to be tolerant of those who interpret these events in a Biblical manner. Once again, we are attacking each other at the very time we need to come together.

"Why can't we all just get along?"

Peace,

Janet

greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sorry,

A secular Republic is what made America great. Theocracy is another form of tyranny.

Roland Croteau <rolandcro@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hello Greg,

I am the author of that post.

Want to attack me? Why not do it head to head rather than as an
anonymous post?

Having watched the NON-moving freedom movement [including this one
aspect group{s} regarding the 9-11 issue] I could much more easily
accuse you of the same thing. Why? Because people like you keep
promoting putting off the inevitable. And what is the inevitable..?
look at American history and you MIGHT get a clue.

But with that said..? consider yourself and this group as being
"noticed". You will not be able to say you weren't told.

The solution is OBVIOUS; return to God's Laws - NOT the U.S.
CON-stitution.

I believe you are not only a fool..? but a coward.
Roland

On Feb 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Greg Nixon wrote:

Totally,

Attn: Mods Perhaps go to membership approval for a brief period?

Also ask Jolly to add more moderators (people we know) to increase
the the ability to catch in the act.

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn Ertell"
<lynnertell@...> wrote:
>
>
> The posting below (and the individual responsible) are perfect
> examples of what needs to me moderated OUT of this group.
>
> Expect to be deluged with more of this kind of pseudo-Biblical
> snake-oil "prophecy" and fake religious mumbo-jumbo.
>
> It's intended to muddy the waters, turn off and drive away rational
> people and bog us down with a lot of crap.....
> Transparently obvious as COINTELPRO...
>
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Roland Croteau <rolandcro@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I hope this finds all well and in good spirit.
> >
> > As a serious student and activist for more than 25 years I hope
I can
> > offer something of value to this group.
> >
> > I believe anyone who has "done the work" knows the U.S.
government was,
> > at the very least, complicit in 9-11. And "we the sheople" are
hoping
> > they will admit it publicly??
> >
> > I see government as force and force is power. In all of recorded
> > history I have NEVER seen force/power relinquish just by
> > asking/petitioning.
> >
> > Does it make any sense that government will this time?
> >
> > In my studied/activist opinion.., 9-11 is merely a part of a
global
> > scheme to forward the global agenda of the elite to create
global
> > governance.
> >
> > The links below offer information that ties it all together and
then at
> > "THE PLAN" link, offers the ONLY solution out of this mess.
> >
> > Of course you will need to decide for yourself. Should you
decide to do
> > the work/study.., I would NOT recommend "skip reading" for each
> > sentence in each presentation builds/lays a foundation for the
next,
> > offering fullest comprehension for the reader the first time
through
> > [as it is recommended they be read more than once].
> >
> > Regards,
> > Roland
> >
> > http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.info
> > http://i.am/jah/plan.htm
> > http://360.yahoo.com/rolandcro
> >
>

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:18:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: New member ....... looks like a typical COINTELPRO errand-boy

you got it Greg -- I'll change the mod settings right now.

Greg Nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote: Totally,

Attn: Mods Perhaps go to membership approval for a brief period?

Also ask Jolly to add more moderators (people we know) to increase
the the ability to catch in the act.

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:38:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Hello

Sure, Greg -- but I'm not exactly sure which one she's talking about.

http://www.rense.com/general61/dwe.htm
http://rense.com/general63/jolly.htm
http://www.rense.com/general61/tvv.htm
http://www.rense.com/general63/newam.htm

Greg Nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote:
Got a link on that Rense article Mr Roger?

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Jolly Roger
<slicingthroats@...> wrote:
>
> I'm very flattered by this, Amy, and I'm glad you liked the
article, but I have to respectfully decline because I don't deal in
conspiracy theories -- only scientific evidence, and documented
facts. I also suspect that your film project is just another attempt
to discredit the 9-11 Truth Movement.
> Instead of making a film about conspiracy theories, why don't
you investigate what actually transpired on 9-11, and make a film
that might actually be important to saving this nation, rather than
one that will undoubtably mock all who question the lies being
spewed by our government and the media?
>
>
> Amy Manchester <amym@...> wrote:
> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }
Hello,
>
> My name is Amy Manchester and I work for a production company
out in Los Angeles. We are developing a show based on investigating
modern day conspiracy theories. I enjoyed your article on
www.rense.com and wondered if you would be interested in talking
some time? I could call you or you could call me, just let me know.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Amy Manchester
> Director of Development
> Pilgrim Films & Television
> 818-728-8819 office
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "There comes a time when every man feels the urge to spit on his
hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." -- H.L.
Mencken
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:45:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Hello

If you give me a mailing address, I'd be happy to send you a CD containing enough evidence to prove U.S. Gov't complicity beyond any doubt, and I'll also appreciate your help in this important mission.

Amy Manchester <amym@pilgrimfilms.tv> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Actually, our goal is to not to mock at all but rather get all the information out that the government and/or large corporations have hidden or dismissed. I understand your skepticism but our whole intention is to get the scientific evidence and documented facts out there for the public to see on a grander scale. Thank you for your consideration though. If you have any sites or areas I should check out for research, I would appreciate it.

All my best,
Amy

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From: Jolly Roger [mailto:slicingthroats@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:39 PM
To: Amy Manchester
Cc: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Hello

Instead of making a film about conspiracy theories, why don't you investigate what actually transpired on 9-11, and make a film that might actually be important to saving this nation, rather than one that will undoubtably mock all who question the lies being spewed by our government and the media?

Amy Manchester <amym@pilgrimfilms.tv> wrote:

Hello,

My name is Amy Manchester and I work for a production company out in Los Angeles. We are developing a show based on investigating modern day conspiracy theories. I enjoyed your article on www.rense.com and wondered if you would be interested in talking some time? I could call you or you could call me, just let me know.

Thank you,

Amy Manchester

Director of Development

Pilgrim Films & Television

818-728-8819 office

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:54:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Subject: Getting on the offensive

Hello everyone. I’d like to make a suggestion, if I may, concerning talking to people about 9-11 Truth.
I don’t think we’re the minority anymore. It seems that everyone I talk to knows that 9-11 was an inside job now, or at least is able to see a few flaws in the official story. Now, my perception of the movement’s success might have something to do with my local demographics, and the fact that I’ve been working locally for years, but I still think it’s time 9-11 truthers in all areas considered a new approach to the subject.
Instead of supplying evidence trying to convince people that 9-11 was an inside job, it might be time to get on the offensive, and start mocking people for being stupid and gullible enough to believe the official story.
You know you’re right, and you can always supply the evidence to back up your argument if need be, but by making fun of the media believers, you might get them to look for the evidence rather than meet with the resistence you will always get by trying to shove it in their face.
We’ve been called crack-pots, conspiracy theorists, lunatics, wing-nuts, and traitors. Since we now have an army of PhD’s who happen to think we’re right, isn’t it time we started to fight back against the dupes by calling them idiots, fools, suckers, and pawns?
I’ve decided to submit a few "ice-breakers" that might help to bring up the subject, and put the dupes on the defensive:
1. "Stupid bastards like you, who believe whatever they’re told, are the reason our new dictator is wiping his ass with the constitution."
2. "You’re dumber than a bag of hammers if you think a gang of cave men out-witted our air-force. Are you too stupid to know how a radar screen works? Don’t you think one or two of them might have been pointed at the sky on 9-11, you buffoon?"
3. "I think the Brooklyn Bridge might be the next terrorist target, so I’m going to let you have it for a hundred bucks."
4. "Thanks for being dumb as a rock. If you ever decide to pull your head out of your ass, we might still save this country."
5. "Can I ask you to please grow a pair of balls, and then muster up the courage to face the truth?"
And for those of you who prefer sarcasm:
6. "If we only had radar screens and an air force, we might have stopped those terrorist planes."
7. "I guess this really is the land of opportunity if the president can make billions from a terrorist attack."
8. "I always knew we had to destroy the constitution to protect our freedom."
You get the idea. You don’t have to defend the truth. It speaks for itself. You’re in the majority now, and acting as if you are will also urge others to do the same. Many people won’t express their suspicions regarding 9-11 because they’re afraid of being ridiculed. We’ll encourage the silent portion of the movement to be more vocal when we act with the confidence of a winning team, instead of constantly trying to defend ourselves. Just a thought.

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:55:02 -0800 (PST)
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Hello

Thanks Jolly,

Any chance of you helping flyer for 2/20 NYC. I wil try to come in this week for some
prep work too.

Greg

Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sure, Greg -- but I'm not exactly sure which one she's talking about.

http://www.rense.com/general61/dwe.htm
http://rense.com/general63/jolly.htm
http://www.rense.com/general61/tvv.htm
http://www.rense.com/general63/newam.htm

Greg Nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote:
Got a link on that Rense article Mr Roger?

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:02:43 -0000
From: "Jolly Roger" <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hello

Excellent chance. Did you talk to anyone else from NYC? Enough of the
movement is here for us to spread out and cover a lot of terretory.
Where can I download the flyer?

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, greg nixon <nxngrg@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jolly,
>
> Any chance of you helping flyer for 2/20 NYC. I wil try to come
in this week for some
> prep work too.
>
> Greg
>
> Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@...> wrote:
> Sure, Greg -- but I'm not exactly sure which one she's talking
about.
>
> http://www.rense.com/general61/dwe.htm
> http://rense.com/general63/jolly.htm
> http://www.rense.com/general61/tvv.htm
> http://www.rense.com/general63/newam.htm
>
> Greg Nixon <nxngrg@...> wrote:
> Got a link on that Rense article Mr Roger?
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Jolly Roger
> <slicingthroats@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm very flattered by this, Amy, and I'm glad you liked the
> article, but I have to respectfully decline because I don't deal in
> conspiracy theories -- only scientific evidence, and documented
> facts. I also suspect that your film project is just another
attempt
> to discredit the 9-11 Truth Movement.
> > Instead of making a film about conspiracy theories, why don't
> you investigate what actually transpired on 9-11, and make a film
> that might actually be important to saving this nation, rather than
> one that will undoubtably mock all who question the lies being
> spewed by our government and the media?
> >
> >
> > Amy Manchester <amym@> wrote:
> > st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }
> Hello,
> >
> > My name is Amy Manchester and I work for a production company
> out in Los Angeles. We are developing a show based on
investigating
> modern day conspiracy theories. I enjoyed your article on
> www.rense.com and wondered if you would be interested in talking
> some time? I could call you or you could call me, just let me know.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Amy Manchester
> > Director of Development
> > Pilgrim Films & Television
> > 818-728-8819 office
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 12:12:16 -0800 (PST)
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Hello

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/132464/index.php

I have talked with Sherry Bender and Luke.

NY911 truth i think is another front like truthorg. or else they simply believe in a top down heirarch approach and WILL NOT SUPPORT the actions of other groups.

Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote:
Excellent chance. Did you talk to anyone else from NYC? Enough of the
movement is here for us to spread out and cover a lot of terretory.
Where can I download the flyer?

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:26:09 -0000
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
Subject: Hope this is not off-topic.....

re: Danish flags
Shopping for Danish flags. in bulk ?

Check out this piece in the London Daily Telegraph...

Just to give you a sample
==
Why were those Danish flags to hand?
Who built up the stockpile so that they could be quickly dragged out
right across the Muslim world and burnt where television cameras would
come and look?
The more you study this story of "spontaneous" Muslim rage, the odder
it seems.
==

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/02/04/do0402.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2006/02/04/ixopinion.html

Or just do a GOOGLE on "Danish flags" and "Daily Telegraph".

Nice to see that others are starting to ask the obvious questions.

Guess they've read their Orwell and Huxley and know what they're
looking at.

I'm going to be spreading this "Danish flag" link around all over the
place.

Cartoons criticizing or mocking sacred Judeo-Christian or Islamic
religious icons and taboos..... were supposed to be an explicitly
protected form of free speech/ free press.
Like wise with the corrolary right to mock or criticize national
symbols, like the US flag, or Uncle Sam or the Statue of Liberty.

Flag-burning ....
How many times have those corrupt pimps in the US Congress attempted
to ban flag-burning ?
As if they really gave a damn about what it stood for.

So I am also asking, along with the London Daily Telegraph,
"Where the hell did they get all those Danish flags ?"

The Danish flag must surely not be among those that are easiest to
sell or stock in bulk.
Not a very liquid inventory.
But even Danish flags could be printed up and packaged for delivery,
direct from the factory, fairly quickly... nowadays.
Do you suppose the mullahs in Beirut or Damascus phoned in bulk orders
to flag-manufacturers in Denmark ?

Or maybe the whole "national flag" production infrastructure is just a
subset of "flag printing" generally.
With telecommunications and imaging, they can print the flag up in a
fairly small shop.
Something like those custom t-shirt shops you might see at the mall.
So who do you suppose ordered up the flags ?
And who saw to their distribution ?

No problem getting lots of American flags, right ?
Since MOST are now produced in CHINA.
Just check the label, next time you see one in a Wal-Mart.

Why... I remember when Abbie Hoffman got arrested for wearing a shirt
made from an American flag.

Now you see the flag all over people's clothing, and in advertising
and commercialization of music (country music especially).
You always see little flag pennants all over the place at used car
lots (see the USA in your Chevrolet) and car washes ....
Nowadays, the US and British flags are used for, principally, for
marketing other products and services.

A lot of European countries have the Christian Cross embedded in their
flags, right ?
The Brits combined the "Cross of St. George" (England) with the "Cross
of St. Andrew" (Scotland) - when the Bank of London re-organized them
as the "United Kingdom of " (England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales).

Our own founders here in good ole secular American, would NEVER have
allowed ANY overtly Christian symbol in their flag.... as they
vehemently rejected the whole tyrannical idea of religious hierarchy
and the whole church and state were ONE back in the old world of Europe

PAY
PRAY
OBEY

But above all..... OBEY.

Although, as you know, the legendary Ku Klux Klan ("retired"
Confederate Army officer's corps) re--adopted the cross symbol, with
the full endorsement of the great progressive one-worlder, Woodrow
Wilson (he was President during WW I and brought in the Federal
Reserve, income tax, military draft... other things that had never
existed in America before.

Yup... them thar flags (idols) and piktures shur du hav a hold a folks
heads ...
Don't they ?

Just make sure you don't catch a glimpse of old Oz behind that flag.
Or behind that regligious icon.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Pay no attention to the power behind the throne.
Pay no attention to the bank vault beneath the altar.

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 20:38:49 -0000
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Getting on the offensive .... getting into some attitude...

I really agree with this.

Emphatically.
I want to see videos of the Towers and WTC7 bouncing up and down to
music ....
I don't give a damn about offending the "survivors" anymore.

Back during the Vietnam era, many sharp organizers realized they could
accelerate the process of education by striking use of satire and mockery.

It's a safe way to sublimiate our outrage at the moral imbecility of
the booboisie out there ... who all pretend to be so well-educated.

The scholars's manifesto makes us mainstream.
WE are the "mainstream" now.
Let's sound like it and act like it.

Yeah... I'm definitely down with the jolly rodger on this.

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Jolly Roger
<slicingthroats@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone. I'd like to make a suggestion, if I may,
concerning talking to people about 9-11 Truth.
> I don't think we're the minority anymore. It seems that everyone I
talk to knows that 9-11 was an inside job now, or at least is able to
see a few flaws in the official story. Now, my perception of the
movement's success might have something to do with my local
demographics, and the fact that I've been working locally for years,
but I still think it's time 9-11 truthers in all areas considered a
new approach to the subject.
> Instead of supplying evidence trying to convince people that 9-11
was an inside job, it might be time to get on the offensive, and start
mocking people for being stupid and gullible enough to believe the
official story.
> You know you're right, and you can always supply the evidence to
back up your argument if need be, but by making fun of the media
believers, you might get them to look for the evidence rather than
meet with the resistence you will always get by trying to shove it in
their face.
> We've been called crack-pots, conspiracy theorists, lunatics,
wing-nuts, and traitors. Since we now have an army of PhD's who happen
to think we're right, isn't it time we started to fight back against
the dupes by calling them idiots, fools, suckers, and pawns?
> I've decided to submit a few "ice-breakers" that might help to
bring up the subject, and put the dupes on the defensive:
> 1. "Stupid bastards like you, who believe whatever they're told,
are the reason our new dictator is wiping his ass with the constitution."
> 2. "You're dumber than a bag of hammers if you think a gang of
cave men out-witted our air-force. Are you too stupid to know how a
radar screen works? Don't you think one or two of them might have been
pointed at the sky on 9-11, you buffoon?"
> 3. "I think the Brooklyn Bridge might be the next terrorist
target, so I'm going to let you have it for a hundred bucks."
> 4. "Thanks for being dumb as a rock. If you ever decide to pull
your head out of your ass, we might still save this country."
> 5. "Can I ask you to please grow a pair of balls, and then muster
up the courage to face the truth?"
> And for those of you who prefer sarcasm:
> 6. "If we only had radar screens and an air force, we might have
stopped those terrorist planes."
> 7. "I guess this really is the land of opportunity if the
president can make billions from a terrorist attack."
> 8. "I always knew we had to destroy the constitution to protect
our freedom."
> You get the idea. You don't have to defend the truth. It speaks
for itself. You're in the majority now, and acting as if you are will
also urge others to do the same. Many people won't express their
suspicions regarding 9-11 because they're afraid of being ridiculed.
We'll encourage the silent portion of the movement to be more vocal
when we act with the confidence of a winning team, instead of
constantly trying to defend ourselves. Just a thought.
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:17:27 -0800 (PST)
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: VoxPop & Sander Hicks for 2/20?

Greg, Jolly, and everyone else in NYC,

Have you considered approaching the good folks at the Vox Pop bookstore/coffeehouse in Brooklyn?
http://www.voxpopnet.net
http://www.drenchkiss.com
http://www.hicksforgovernor.com
(Vox Pop's Sander Hicks is a 9/11 truth author/activist running for NY governor)

I bet they could be great allies in promoting and participating in the 2/20 event.

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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:24:41 -0800 (PST)
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: VoxPop & Sander Hicks for 2/20?

I sent Sander an email with the announcement. No response. I am hoping Truth.org
has not sabatoged the event and persuaded him to sideline it.

alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greg, Jolly, and everyone else in NYC,

Have you considered approaching the good folks at the Vox Pop bookstore/coffeehouse in Brooklyn?
http://www.voxpopnet.net
http://www.drenchkiss.com
http://www.hicksforgovernor.com
(Vox Pop's Sander Hicks is a 9/11 truth author/activist running for NY governor)

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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 21:46:23 -0000
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
Subject: .... cartoons, flags ..... and flaming pyro-technic Tower-ing infernos...

Sorry...
I forgot the punch line on that one..

The Confederate flag ("Cross of St. Andrew") was an explicit appeal to
the sentiment of upper class and traditionalist British public opinion.
Since Queen Victoria and her handsome consort Prince Albert (yeah,
same one as on the tobacco box) had depopulated and then re-colonized
vast stretches of Scotland, taken over the best land (especially in
the picturesque highlands), evicted much of the population (who came
here), used the remnant cheap labor force there as industrial slaves
and hired cannon fodder for their Imperial army and navy;
Victoriana first depopulated, then re-developed, then romanticized the
epic memes and symbols of Scotland ... like the plaid and the bagpipe
and the St. Andrew's Cross.
... and..
as a devoted Anglophile and one of the founding fathers of the
Confederacy, General Albert Pike knew how valuable the St. Andrews
Cross (Confederate battle flag) would be as a trademarked public
relations packaging for the Confederate cause in Britain, especially a
the court of Victoria.
It was perfect political PR for their cause.

So did Confederate envoy to the British Crown (and envy to the Pope
) Judah P. Benjamin ("brains of the Confederacy"), who was himself
born a British subject, and remained so.
He was probably one of the original, "British Israelites" himself.
But he was, like the rest, mostly an "investment banker".
A trans-Atlantic banker.
What we today would call a "global investment banker".
For more... simply do a GOOGLE on "Knights of the Golden Circle"
...the Golden Circle being nothing more than the marketing name for an
empire of cheap slave labor and unlimited real-estate speculation ...
owned and run by many of the same old elite families

But they had to have private meeting lodges for their criminal schemes
(and subversion) so they established the "Knights of the Golden
Circle", as simply a private non-profit "501 C-3" - as we would call
it today... for busting up the US; selling it off cheap to Britain and
European real-estate interests, and hijacking a some nice new slices
of real-estate for their planned giant slave-labor plantations (mostly
cheap cotton, sugar, coffee, rice, bananas..)

I think the intellectual function of these old "secret societies" has
been farmed out, in our times, to well-financed and
thoughtfully-staffed "think-tanks"... all mostly tied to their
corporate and NGO sponsors, principally the CFR.

I only lay out this tiresome history, to demonstrate, once again, how
the magic symbols, the flags and images, the mystical "holy" memes ...
all amount to a kind of "PLASMA CLOAKING" or 'PLASMA MASKING",
employed by abusive and exploitative thug elites all thru history, to
cloud the view, and disguise the more mundane arrangements of money,
arms exchanges, blackmail and murder.
In the West, certainly.
And in the East, as well.

These bankers and pirates and corporate swindlers and televangelists
and messianic generals and their gangster capos sure now how to
package shit, don't they ?
Flags and symbols are a big part of it.

I should have followed up with a tip of the hat to alll the
"Illuminatist" and "Masonic" experts out there ... on this subject of
symbols, flags, taboos and sacred images.
(Hell... it's all generic satanic/magical... whatever.. to me.
Great for entertainment.

Now I understand why the mob moved into Hollywood ("the dream
factory") during the Great Depression; and intensified their influence
as fascism grew in Europe, and more world war loomed.

Is not the PNAC (Project for a New American Century) document scripted
like some mad Hollywood dystopia ?

Overloaded with fire-balls and poisoned "anthrax" envelopes.
PNAC spends a paragraph or so on the use of engineered biological
agents, and exploding vehicles (that take down whole buildings and
leave craters !);
and other dramatic, but now stale and familiar, plot-twists ....
roughly parallelling the next episode of "24"....

Or perhaps the Patriot Act promo/commercial they get to watch with it.

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@...>
wrote:
>
>
> re: Danish flags
> Shopping for Danish flags. in bulk ?
>
>
> Check out this piece in the London Daily Telegraph...
>
> Just to give you a sample
> ==
> Why were those Danish flags to hand?
> Who built up the stockpile so that they could be quickly dragged out
> right across the Muslim world and burnt where television cameras would
> come and look?
> The more you study this story of "spontaneous" Muslim rage, the odder
> it seems.
> ==
>
>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/02/04/do0402.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2006/02/04/ixopinion.html
>
> Or just do a GOOGLE on "Danish flags" and "Daily Telegraph".
>
> Nice to see that others are starting to ask the obvious questions.
>
> Guess they've read their Orwell and Huxley and know what they're
> looking at.
>
> I'm going to be spreading this "Danish flag" link around all over the
> place.
>
> Cartoons criticizing or mocking sacred Judeo-Christian or Islamic
> religious icons and taboos..... were supposed to be an explicitly
> protected form of free speech/ free press.
> Like wise with the corrolary right to mock or criticize national
> symbols, like the US flag, or Uncle Sam or the Statue of Liberty.
>
> Flag-burning ....
> How many times have those corrupt pimps in the US Congress attempted
> to ban flag-burning ?
> As if they really gave a damn about what it stood for.
>
> So I am also asking, along with the London Daily Telegraph,
> "Where the hell did they get all those Danish flags ?"
>
> The Danish flag must surely not be among those that are easiest to
> sell or stock in bulk.
> Not a very liquid inventory.
> But even Danish flags could be printed up and packaged for delivery,
> direct from the factory, fairly quickly... nowadays.
> Do you suppose the mullahs in Beirut or Damascus phoned in bulk orders
> to flag-manufacturers in Denmark ?
>
> Or maybe the whole "national flag" production infrastructure is just a
> subset of "flag printing" generally.
> With telecommunications and imaging, they can print the flag up in a
> fairly small shop.
> Something like those custom t-shirt shops you might see at the mall.
> So who do you suppose ordered up the flags ?
> And who saw to their distribution ?
>
> No problem getting lots of American flags, right ?
> Since MOST are now produced in CHINA.
> Just check the label, next time you see one in a Wal-Mart.
>
> Why... I remember when Abbie Hoffman got arrested for wearing a shirt
> made from an American flag.
>
> Now you see the flag all over people's clothing, and in advertising
> and commercialization of music (country music especially).
> You always see little flag pennants all over the place at used car
> lots (see the USA in your Chevrolet) and car washes ....
> Nowadays, the US and British flags are used for, principally, for
> marketing other products and services.
>
> A lot of European countries have the Christian Cross embedded in their
> flags, right ?
> The Brits combined the "Cross of St. George" (England) with the "Cross
> of St. Andrew" (Scotland) - when the Bank of London re-organized them
> as the "United Kingdom of " (England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales).
>
> Our own founders here in good ole secular American, would NEVER have
> allowed ANY overtly Christian symbol in their flag.... as they
> vehemently rejected the whole tyrannical idea of religious hierarchy
> and the whole church and state were ONE back in the old world of Europe
>
> PAY
> PRAY
> OBEY
>
> But above all..... OBEY.
>
> Although, as you know, the legendary Ku Klux Klan ("retired"
> Confederate Army officer's corps) re--adopted the cross symbol, with
> the full endorsement of the great progressive one-worlder, Woodrow
> Wilson (he was President during WW I and brought in the Federal
> Reserve, income tax, military draft... other things that had never
> existed in America before.
>
> Yup... them thar flags (idols) and piktures shur du hav a hold a folks
> heads ...
> Don't they ?
>
> Just make sure you don't catch a glimpse of old Oz behind that flag.
> Or behind that regligious icon.
>
> Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
> Pay no attention to the power behind the throne.
> Pay no attention to the bank vault beneath the altar.
>

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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:46:31 -0800 (PST)
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06

Well, we've got their addy right here. Let's ALL write them and ask them why they aren't including 2/20 in their events calendar! (Please be polite, though. At least at first.)

Also:
Among their events listings is this flyering opportunity:

"Were We Misled?"
Wednesday, February 8
7:00 - 9:00 PM (doors open at 6:30)
NY Society For Ethical Culture - Concert Hall
64th St. & Central Park West

I think this would be a great idea for Greg, Jolly, and the others in NY to hit as well. Lib gatekeeper and 9/11 truth "debunker" David Corn (Boo! Hiss!) will be there and it's FREE! Let's give him hell! (God, I wish I could be there!)

Cathy Garger <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com> wrote:
Don't know if all of you receive this, but it is interesting to note that there is no mention yet about the 2/20 action in NYC. Do they perhaps not know about it yet? I am checking first as I don't want to re-invent the wheel and contact them about asking them to include the event in their next mailing if someone has already asked them to do so.

Also, I know that there is a film project going on, and thought that maybe they could use some help with someone in our group who is an expert on INSIDE JOB brand of truth? I mean, there is only one real truth, and I would imagine that a film about 9/11 truth would need to use the best researchers out there, right?

news@list.ny911truth.org wrote:
Hello all,

NY 911 TRUTH BULLETIN BOARD

STRATEGY SESSION

MAJOR FLYERING OPPORTUNITY

Here's an important event we'll want people to attend and flyer!

"Were We Misled?"
Wednesday, February 8
7:00 - 9:00 PM (doors open at 6:30)
NY Society For Ethical Culture - Concert Hall
64th St. & Central Park West

Who ever can be there and needs flyers, come to the Strategy Session on Tuesday mentioned above.

IMPORTANT RESEARCH PROJECT

FILM PROJECT INTERN OPPORTUNITY

STREET ACTION MOBILIZATION

CITIZENS COUNTER-COUP

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed individuals can change the world.
In fact, it's the only thing that ever has."
- Margaret Mead

Truth will prevail,

Les
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:49:42 -0800 (PST)
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: VoxPop & Sander Hicks for 2/20?

That's OK, don't let it discourage you. Once you get to NY, you can still go straight into Vox Pop and talk to them personally.

greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote: I sent Sander an email with the announcement. No response. I am hoping Truth.org
has not sabatoged the event and persuaded him to sideline it.

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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:33:01 -0500
From: Roland Croteau <rolandcro@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Re: New member ....... looks like a typical COINTELPRO errand-boy

Dear Naveed,

Good afternoon.

I hope this finds you well and in good spirit.

Respectfully I would argue.., it has ALL been theater. The entire world
has been duped. ESPECIALLY we [supposed] Amerikans. We were used [and
ARE being used] as the "thrust". It is even on our script, fiat
currency "money" given us by the NWOor elite. I am well aware of the
[supposed] struggle to keep the federal reserve central banking scheme
out of this [supposed free] country.

As I once read.., there is none worse off than the slave who
BELIEVES/THINKS he is free. That is us [as a collective people]. I hope
you are aware you CANNOT own anything. All any of us get is the
ILLUSION of "owning".

If indeed we are TRULY "sovereigns"..? then WHY didn't the people then
stop the passing of the Federal Reserve Act [which I have completely
read - YEARS ago], THEN?

I submit, we were a spiritually spineless people then and are even
worse today. MUCH worse. This is The End Time. They are as The Days of
Noah. People didn't listen then to the simple Truth and they aren't now
either. Choice. We are collectively choosing our own deaths.

The time is coming SOON where ALL who would not listen [and who have
flippantly and arrogantly rejected every warning.., including this
warning about disregarding "THE PLAN"] will rue these days [of
warning].

I continue to ask..? WHERE are all the supposed God-fearing MEN? The
Great and Dreadful day is nigh at hand and NO ONE will escape what is
coming due. NO ONE.

Most of the so-called "patriot community" has been given these warnings
over and over. I personally may not have hit them all.., but word does
travel. "Patriots", at large know who I am and my history and prefer to
label me a nut because I condemn their "revered CON-stitution". As I
have said.., fair enough.

I'll pop in and out of groups "fishing" to see if there any there who
"have an ear to hear" and like me..? finally got tired of all the talk.
Doesn't look very good so far in this group. It will soon be time for
me to move along and none of you will have to hear anymore from me.

LLTF,
Roland

On Feb 6, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Naveed wrote:

the other thing i'd like to throw into the mix roland is that america
was strong because she resisted the inbred satanist central banksters
move to prop up a central bank on the united states. they weren't
successful in capturing america until 1913......

janet phelan <jcphelan10@yahoo.com> wrote:
> lt should be obvious to all of us that the engine running the show at
> this time is operating off of a very dark force. There is no
> religious system in the world that I am aware of that advocates
> torture in the name of any deity. Not to mention the other atrocities
> being perpetrated across our beleaguered globe. Personally, I think
> it behooves us to be tolerant of those who interpret these events in a
> Biblical manner. Once again, we are attacking each other at the very
> time we need to come together.
>
> "Why can't we all just get along?"
>
> Peace,
>
> Janet
>
> greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Sorry,
>>
>> A secular Republic is what made America great. Theocracy is another
>> form of tyranny.
>>
>> Roland Croteau <rolandcro@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Hello Greg,
>>>
>>> I am the author of that post.
>>>
>>> Want to attack me? Why not do it head to head rather than as an
>>> anonymous post?
>>>
>>> Having watched the NON-moving freedom movement [including this one
>>> aspect group{s} regarding the 9-11 issue] I could much more easily
>>> accuse you of the same thing. Why? Because people like you keep
>>> promoting putting off the inevitable. And what is the inevitable..?
>>> look at American history and you MIGHT get a clue.
>>>
>>> But with that said..? consider yourself and this group as being
>>> "noticed". You will not be able to say you weren't told.
>>>
>>> The solution is OBVIOUS; return to God's Laws - NOT the U.S.
>>> CON-stitution.
>>>
>>> I believe you are not only a fool..? but a coward.
>>> Roland
>>>
>>> On Feb 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Greg Nixon wrote:
>>>
>>> Totally,
>>>
>>> Attn: Mods Perhaps go to membership approval for a brief period?
>>>
>>> Also ask Jolly to add more moderators (people we know) to increase
>>> the the ability to catch in the act.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn Ertell"
>>> <lynnertell@...> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The posting below (and the individual responsible) are perfect
>>> > examples of what needs to me moderated OUT of this group.
>>> >
>>> > Expect to be deluged with more of this kind of pseudo-Biblical
>>> > snake-oil "prophecy" and fake religious mumbo-jumbo.
>>> >
>>> > It's intended to muddy the waters, turn off and drive away
>>> rational
>>> > people and bog us down with a lot of crap.....
>>> > Transparently obvious as COINTELPRO...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Roland Croteau
>>> <rolandcro@>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Greetings,
>>> > >
>>> > > I hope this finds all well and in good spirit.
>>> > >
>>> > > As a serious student and activist for more than 25 years I hope
>>> I can
>>> > > offer something of value to this group.
>>> > >
>>> > > I believe anyone who has "done the work" knows the U.S.
>>> government was,
>>> > > at the very least, complicit in 9-11. And "we the sheople" are
>>> hoping
>>> > > they will admit it publicly??
>>> > >
>>> > > I see government as force and force is power. In all of
>>> recorded
>>> > > history I have NEVER seen force/power relinquish just by
>>> > > asking/petitioning.
>>> > >
>>> > > Does it make any sense that government will this time?
>>> > >
>>> > > In my studied/activist opinion.., 9-11 is merely a part of a
>>> global
>>> > > scheme to forward the global agenda of the elite to create
>>> global
>>> > > governance.
>>> > >
>>> > > The links below offer information that ties it all together and
>>> then at
>>> > > "THE PLAN" link, offers the ONLY solution out of this mess.
>>> > >
>>> > > Of course you will need to decide for yourself. Should you
>>> decide to do
>>> > > the work/study.., I would NOT recommend "skip reading" for each
>>> > > sentence in each presentation builds/lays a foundation for the
>>> next,
>>> > > offering fullest comprehension for the reader the first time
>>> through
>>> > > [as it is recommended they be read more than once].
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards,
>>> > > Roland
>>> > >
>>> > > http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.info
>>> > > http://i.am/jah/plan.htm
>>> > > http://360.yahoo.com/rolandcro
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:57:21 -0800 (PST)
From: mann david <dmann51@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Getting on the offensive .... getting into some attitude...

Two good comments. The lilly-livered "liberals" are
always offering unsolicited advice about "not turning
anybody off." As if we should be concerned about those
not already TURNED OFF by fascist aggression, torture,
and the obvious and murderous hoax of 911. Of course,
these Miss Manners types want to throw us off their
own scent - they are utterly paralyzed with fear and
opportunism - waiting to be told what to think by
those on top side.

--- Lynn Ertell <lynnertell@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> I really agree with this.
>
> Emphatically.
> I want to see videos of the Towers and WTC7 bouncing
> up and down to
> music ....
> I don't give a damn about offending the "survivors"
> anymore.
>
> Back during the Vietnam era, many sharp organizers
> realized they could
> accelerate the process of education by striking use
> of satire and mockery.
>
> It's a safe way to sublimiate our outrage at the
> moral imbecility of
> the booboisie out there ... who all pretend to be so
> well-educated.
>
> The scholars's manifesto makes us mainstream.
> WE are the "mainstream" now.
> Let's sound like it and act like it.
>
> Yeah... I'm definitely down with the jolly rodger on
> this.
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Jolly Roger
> <slicingthroats@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone. I'd like to make a suggestion,
> if I may,
> concerning talking to people about 9-11 Truth.
> > I don't think we're the minority anymore. It
> seems that everyone I
> talk to knows that 9-11 was an inside job now, or at
> least is able to
> see a few flaws in the official story. Now, my
> perception of the
> movement's success might have something to do with
> my local
> demographics, and the fact that I've been working
> locally for years,
> but I still think it's time 9-11 truthers in all
> areas considered a
> new approach to the subject.
> > Instead of supplying evidence trying to convince
> people that 9-11
> was an inside job, it might be time to get on the
> offensive, and start
> mocking people for being stupid and gullible enough
> to believe the
> official story.
> > You know you're right, and you can always supply
> the evidence to
> back up your argument if need be, but by making fun
> of the media
> believers, you might get them to look for the
> evidence rather than
> meet with the resistence you will always get by
> trying to shove it in
> their face.
> > We've been called crack-pots, conspiracy
> theorists, lunatics,
> wing-nuts, and traitors. Since we now have an army
> of PhD's who happen
> to think we're right, isn't it time we started to
> fight back against
> the dupes by calling them idiots, fools, suckers,
> and pawns?
> > I've decided to submit a few "ice-breakers" that
> might help to
> bring up the subject, and put the dupes on the
> defensive:
> > 1. "Stupid bastards like you, who believe
> whatever they're told,
> are the reason our new dictator is wiping his ass
> with the constitution."
> > 2. "You're dumber than a bag of hammers if you
> think a gang of
> cave men out-witted our air-force. Are you too
> stupid to know how a
> radar screen works? Don't you think one or two of
> them might have been
> pointed at the sky on 9-11, you buffoon?"
> > 3. "I think the Brooklyn Bridge might be the
> next terrorist
> target, so I'm going to let you have it for a
> hundred bucks."
> > 4. "Thanks for being dumb as a rock. If you ever
> decide to pull
> your head out of your ass, we might still save this
> country."
> > 5. "Can I ask you to please grow a pair of
> balls, and then muster
> up the courage to face the truth?"
> > And for those of you who prefer sarcasm:
> > 6. "If we only had radar screens and an air
> force, we might have
> stopped those terrorist planes."
> > 7. "I guess this really is the land of
> opportunity if the
> president can make billions from a terrorist
> attack."
> > 8. "I always knew we had to destroy the
> constitution to protect
> our freedom."
> > You get the idea. You don't have to defend the
> truth. It speaks
> for itself. You're in the majority now, and acting
> as if you are will
> also urge others to do the same. Many people won't
> express their
> suspicions regarding 9-11 because they're afraid of
> being ridiculed.
> We'll encourage the silent portion of the movement
> to be more vocal
> when we act with the confidence of a winning team,
> instead of
> constantly trying to defend ourselves. Just a
> thought.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "There comes a time when every man feels the urge
> to spit on his
> hands, hoist the black flag, and start slitting
> throats." -- H.L. Mencken
> >
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:01:34 -0800 (PST)
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Why no mention of the 2/20 protest in NY?

Here's what I just sent to news@list.ny911truth.org.
Please send them something similar in your own words.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi,

Did you guys know about this 9/11 truth protest? Can you please help promote it?:

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/132464/index.php

• 05 Feb 2006
More details...

2/20 March for 9/11 Truth NYC: The
Tipping Point?

"The world is at the most serious crossroads in modern
history. The fraudulent 'War on Terror' threatens the very future of
humanity."

Malcom Gladwell in his new book: Tipping Point: How Little Things
Can
Make a Big Difference believes “small actions can spark social
epidemics.” I am counting on it. Ladies and gentlemen, we need an
epidemic of epic proportions to spread an awareness of the reality of
what happened on 9/11.(A) To use the words of Chossudovsky: "The world
is at the most serious crossroads in modern history.”(B) The
fraudulent 'War on Terror' threatens the very future of humanity."

This coming February 20th in New York City offers a chance for
citizens' action to spark real change in government. 9/11 activists
and concerned citizens will confront media figures keeping 9/11 truth
under wraps. We will confront two public figures seeking higher office
on the back of 9/11. One is former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani,
the man mistakenly portrayed as a hero of 9/11 when, in fact, he is a
perpetrator of the crime. The other, the Attorney General Elliot
Spitzer, is running for Governor on a record that has allowed this
monumental act of False Flag Terror to go unaccounted for in his
district. We will ask for Spitzer to resign and for Giuliani to be
placed under arrest.

The 9/11 truth movement is now over four years old. There have been
many false starts, many false hope campaigns and enough suffering to go
around for everyone. The moment in history for action is closing: the
machinery of war and the drumbeats for new conquests are now deafening.
It is our moment to stave off a near certain catastrophe. 9/11 truth
is about more than justice for the past, it is about what kind of world
we want for our future.

Let us recall that a lone drag queen threw a punch at Stonewall
thirty
years ago and launched the Gay Rights revolution. A black woman
refused to go and sit at the back of the bus and began the Civil Rights
Movement. Can a letter and a warrant from the people bring down the
giant criminal enterprise that America has become? Do we want to leave
our fate to fate? The evil that destroyed those majestic towers in New
York did not come from a cave in Afghanistan, it came from a dying
militaristic Anglo empire. The book of fate, despite what Shakespeare
may have thought, is not written for us, it is ours to be written.

Please all come to Ground Zero in lower Manhattan on February 20th(C)
at 10 a.m. to meet and to march to restore sanity to our teetering
world. Please all come to Ground Zero and make your voices heard that
we know what happened on 9/11 and the lives of 2,986 Americans and the
nameless thousands killed in the illegal wars abroad will not go
unaccounted for. Please all come together to make our small symbolical
action a chance for the truth to be heard. Let us hope the tipping
point will be here and now for an end to this frame-up on humanity,
falsely named “the war on terror." This is a war on freedom. Make your
voice heard in New York on 2/20. Your future depends on it.

A. http://www.dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/132208/index.php

B. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php

C http://www.dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/132209/index.php

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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 11:47:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Hello

Likewise, Mr. Eastman, and thank you.

Dick Eastman <de1949@nwinfo.net> wrote: Jolly Roger -- one of the few I always can trust.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jolly Roger
To: Amy Manchester
Cc: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 9:39 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Hello

I'm very flattered by this, Amy, and I'm glad you liked the article, but I have to respectfully decline because I don't deal in conspiracy theories -- only scientific evidence, and documented facts. I also suspect that your film project is just another attempt to discredit the 9-11 Truth Movement.
Instead of making a film about conspiracy theories, why don't you investigate what actually transpired on 9-11, and make a film that might actually be important to saving this nation, rather than one that will undoubtably mock all who question the lies being spewed by our government and the media?

Amy Manchester <amym@pilgrimfilms.tv> wrote:
st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) } Hello,

My name is Amy Manchester and I work for a production company out in Los Angeles. We are developing a show based on investigating modern day conspiracy theories. I enjoyed your article on www.rense.com and wondered if you would be interested in talking some time? I could call you or you could call me, just let me know.

Thank you,

Amy Manchester
Director of Development
Pilgrim Films & Television
818-728-8819 office

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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:07:27 -0800 (PST)
From: janet phelan <jcphelan10@yahoo.com>
Subject: Impending Financial Crash?

This morning I went to Bank of America in Venice, California to cash a check. While I have no bank account at this time, B of A does cash certain checks (i.e.--personal checks issued by B of A customers, some corporate checks, etc.) for a small fee.

After my transaction, I approached the bank manager. Fabian Diaz is a stocky, forty-ish man sporting a crew cut and a three piece suit.

I inquired as to whether there had been a visit by Homeland Security instructing employees of B of A as to how to deal with irate customers following the "bank crash." I told him I heard that it might be problematic getting one's own valuables out of one's safety deposit box at that juncture in time.

Diaz's smile froze. He said carefully, "If you feel that way I would advise your getting your valuables out of the safety deposit box."

I made an internal note that this was a completely non-responsive answer. I also noted that he had shifted the focus back to my "feeling" and away from a reality-oriented question. I have noticed this re-directing of focus in many individuals who are dealing with these sensitive issues. I believe this is a result of a particular training.

I then stated that many people thought that the economy was "in trouble" and asked him, directly, if there was going to be a "crash."

Behind Diaz's fixed smile was a glint of anger. "I really can't comment on that," he said.

I thanked him and walked out of the bank, my cash "safely" in my pocket.

Janet Phelan

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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 22:15:24 -0000
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Roland Croteau ....... typical COINTELPRO trash...

Dear Moderators,

Please filter out this SPAM .
Here is a sample of what follows..
Clearly intended to waste our time ...

"... This is The End Time. They are as The Days of
Noah....WHERE are all the supposed God-fearing MEN? The
Great and Dreadful day is nigh at hand and NO ONE will escape what is
coming due. NO ONE."

.....

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Roland Croteau <rolandcro@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Naveed,
>
> Good afternoon.
>
> I hope this finds you well and in good spirit.
>
> Respectfully I would argue.., it has ALL been theater. The entire world
> has been duped. ESPECIALLY we [supposed] Amerikans. We were used [and
> ARE being used] as the "thrust". It is even on our script, fiat
> currency "money" given us by the NWOor elite. I am well aware of the
> [supposed] struggle to keep the federal reserve central banking scheme
> out of this [supposed free] country.
>
> As I once read.., there is none worse off than the slave who
> BELIEVES/THINKS he is free. That is us [as a collective people]. I hope
> you are aware you CANNOT own anything. All any of us get is the
> ILLUSION of "owning".
>
> If indeed we are TRULY "sovereigns"..? then WHY didn't the people then
> stop the passing of the Federal Reserve Act [which I have completely
> read - YEARS ago], THEN?
>
> I submit, we were a spiritually spineless people then and are even
> worse today. MUCH worse. This is The End Time. They are as The Days of
> Noah. People didn't listen then to the simple Truth and they aren't now
> either. Choice. We are collectively choosing our own deaths.
>
> The time is coming SOON where ALL who would not listen [and who have
> flippantly and arrogantly rejected every warning.., including this
> warning about disregarding "THE PLAN"] will rue these days [of
> warning].
>
> I continue to ask..? WHERE are all the supposed God-fearing MEN? The
> Great and Dreadful day is nigh at hand and NO ONE will escape what is
> coming due. NO ONE.
>
> Most of the so-called "patriot community" has been given these warnings
> over and over. I personally may not have hit them all.., but word does
> travel. "Patriots", at large know who I am and my history and prefer to
> label me a nut because I condemn their "revered CON-stitution". As I
> have said.., fair enough.
>
> I'll pop in and out of groups "fishing" to see if there any there who
> "have an ear to hear" and like me..? finally got tired of all the talk.
> Doesn't look very good so far in this group. It will soon be time for
> me to move along and none of you will have to hear anymore from me.
>
> LLTF,
> Roland
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Naveed wrote:
>
> the other thing i'd like to throw into the mix roland is that america
> was strong because she resisted the inbred satanist central banksters
> move to prop up a central bank on the united states. they weren't
> successful in capturing america until 1913......
>
>
> janet phelan <jcphelan10@...> wrote:
> > lt should be obvious to all of us that the engine running the show at
> > this time is operating off of a very dark force. There is no
> > religious system in the world that I am aware of that advocates
> > torture in the name of any deity. Not to mention the other
atrocities
> > being perpetrated across our beleaguered globe. Personally, I think
> > it behooves us to be tolerant of those who interpret these events
in a
> > Biblical manner. Once again, we are attacking each other at the very
> > time we need to come together.
> >
> > "Why can't we all just get along?"
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > Janet
> >
> > greg nixon <nxngrg@...> wrote:
> >> Sorry,
> >>
> >> A secular Republic is what made America great. Theocracy is another
> >> form of tyranny.
> >>
> >> Roland Croteau <rolandcro@...> wrote:
> >>> Hello Greg,
> >>>
> >>> I am the author of that post.
> >>>
> >>> Want to attack me? Why not do it head to head rather than as an
> >>> anonymous post?
> >>>
> >>> Having watched the NON-moving freedom movement [including this one
> >>> aspect group{s} regarding the 9-11 issue] I could much more easily
> >>> accuse you of the same thing. Why? Because people like you keep
> >>> promoting putting off the inevitable. And what is the inevitable..?
> >>> look at American history and you MIGHT get a clue.
> >>>
> >>> But with that said..? consider yourself and this group as being
> >>> "noticed". You will not be able to say you weren't told.
> >>>
> >>> The solution is OBVIOUS; return to God's Laws - NOT the U.S.
> >>> CON-stitution.
> >>>
> >>> I believe you are not only a fool..? but a coward.
> >>> Roland
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Greg Nixon wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Totally,
> >>>
> >>> Attn: Mods Perhaps go to membership approval for a brief period?
> >>>
> >>> Also ask Jolly to add more moderators (people we know) to increase
> >>> the the ability to catch in the act.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn Ertell"
> >>> <lynnertell@> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > The posting below (and the individual responsible) are perfect
> >>> > examples of what needs to me moderated OUT of this group.
> >>> >
> >>> > Expect to be deluged with more of this kind of pseudo-Biblical
> >>> > snake-oil "prophecy" and fake religious mumbo-jumbo.
> >>> >
> >>> > It's intended to muddy the waters, turn off and drive away
> >>> rational
> >>> > people and bog us down with a lot of crap.....
> >>> > Transparently obvious as COINTELPRO...
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Roland Croteau
> >>> <rolandcro@>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Greetings,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I hope this finds all well and in good spirit.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > As a serious student and activist for more than 25 years I
hope
> >>> I can
> >>> > > offer something of value to this group.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I believe anyone who has "done the work" knows the U.S.
> >>> government was,
> >>> > > at the very least, complicit in 9-11. And "we the sheople" are
> >>> hoping
> >>> > > they will admit it publicly??
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I see government as force and force is power. In all of
> >>> recorded
> >>> > > history I have NEVER seen force/power relinquish just by
> >>> > > asking/petitioning.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Does it make any sense that government will this time?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > In my studied/activist opinion.., 9-11 is merely a part of a
> >>> global
> >>> > > scheme to forward the global agenda of the elite to create
> >>> global
> >>> > > governance.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > The links below offer information that ties it all
together and
> >>> then at
> >>> > > "THE PLAN" link, offers the ONLY solution out of this mess.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Of course you will need to decide for yourself. Should you
> >>> decide to do
> >>> > > the work/study.., I would NOT recommend "skip reading" for
each
> >>> > > sentence in each presentation builds/lays a foundation for the
> >>> next,
> >>> > > offering fullest comprehension for the reader the first time
> >>> through
> >>> > > [as it is recommended they be read more than once].
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Regards,
> >>> > > Roland
> >>> > >
> >>> > > http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.info
> >>> > > http://i.am/jah/plan.htm
> >>> > > http://360.yahoo.com/rolandcro
> >>> > >
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 14:16:29 -0800 (PST)
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Getting on the offensive

>Now, my perception of the movement’s success might have something to do with my >local demographics

Yes. It does.
Trust me, out here in the vast red-state heartland, we are still very much a tiny minority. Most people out here don't even know a 9/11 truth movement exists and most of those who do know about us despise us. Using your confrontational insult-filled suggestions would just be begging for a redneck/trucker ass-whooping.

Let us know how your new strategy works out in NYC. But out here in the southwest, I'll be taking a more diplomatic hospital-avoiding approach.

Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello everyone. I’d like to make a suggestion, if I may, concerning talking to people about 9-11 Truth.
I don’t think we’re the minority anymore. It seems that everyone I talk to knows that 9-11 was an inside job now, or at least is able to see a few flaws in the official story. Now, my perception of the movement’s success might have something to do with my local demographics, and the fact that I’ve been working locally for years, but I still think it’s time 9-11 truthers in all areas considered a new approach to the subject.
Instead of supplying evidence trying to convince people that 9-11 was an inside job, it might be time to get on the offensive, and start mocking people for being stupid and gullible enough to believe the official story.
You know you’re right, and you can always supply the evidence to back up your argument if need be, but by making fun of the media believers, you might get them to look for the evidence rather than meet with the resistence you will always get by trying to shove it in their face.
We’ve been called crack-pots, conspiracy theorists, lunatics, wing-nuts, and traitors. Since we now have an army of PhD’s who happen to think we’re right, isn’t it time we started to fight back against the dupes by calling them idiots, fools, suckers, and pawns?
I’ve decided to submit a few "ice-breakers" that might help to bring up the subject, and put the dupes on the defensive:
1. "Stupid bastards like you, who believe whatever they’re told, are the reason our new dictator is wiping his ass with the constitution."
2. "You’re dumber than a bag of hammers if you think a gang of cave men out-witted our air-force. Are you too stupid to know how a radar screen works? Don’t you think one or two of them might have been pointed at the sky on 9-11, you buffoon?"
3. "I think the Brooklyn Bridge might be the next terrorist target, so I’m going to let you have it for a hundred bucks."
4. "Thanks for being dumb as a rock. If you ever decide to pull your head out of your ass, we might still save this country."
5. "Can I ask you to please grow a pair of balls, and then muster up the courage to face the truth?"
And for those of you who prefer sarcasm:
6. "If we only had radar screens and an air force, we might have stopped those terrorist planes."
7. "I guess this really is the land of opportunity if the president can make billions from a terrorist attack."
8. "I always knew we had to destroy the constitution to protect our freedom."
You get the idea. You don’t have to defend the truth. It speaks for itself. You’re in the majority now, and acting as if you are will also urge others to do the same. Many people won’t express their suspicions regarding 9-11 because they’re afraid of being ridiculed. We’ll encourage the silent portion of the movement to be more vocal when we act with the confidence of a winning team, instead of constantly trying to defend ourselves. Just a thought.

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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 17:32:28 -0500
From: Roland Croteau <rolandcro@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Roland Croteau ....... typical COINTELPRO trash...

To All,

I hope this finds you well and in good spirit.

To this post I must respond; so this is this groups idea of FREEDOM OF
SPEECH?

This woman doesn't like my position so I should therefore be banned?
What a typical bunch of wannabe hypocrites.

Should people like this woman ever come to power.., even God won't help
us.

You people ALREADY KNOW THE TRUTH about 9-11. Question is; WHAT ARE YOU
GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?? Petition the very people that are at the root of
this crime? And you don't SEE the insanity of that??

Indeed.., it is time for me to move along.

LLTF,
Roland

On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Lynn Ertell wrote:

Dear Moderators,

Please filter out this SPAM .
Here is a sample of what follows..
Clearly intended to waste our time ...

"... This is The End Time. They are as The Days of
Noah....WHERE are all the supposed God-fearing MEN? The
Great and Dreadful day is nigh at hand and NO ONE will escape what is
coming due. NO ONE."

.....

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Roland Croteau <rolandcro@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Naveed,
>
> Good afternoon.
>
> I hope this finds you well and in good spirit.
>
> Respectfully I would argue.., it has ALL been theater. The entire
world
> has been duped. ESPECIALLY we [supposed] Amerikans. We were used [and
> ARE being used] as the "thrust". It is even on our script, fiat
> currency "money" given us by the NWOor elite. I am well aware of the
> [supposed] struggle to keep the federal reserve central banking
scheme
> out of this [supposed free] country.
>
> As I once read.., there is none worse off than the slave who
> BELIEVES/THINKS he is free. That is us [as a collective people]. I
hope
> you are aware you CANNOT own anything. All any of us get is the
> ILLUSION of "owning".
>
> If indeed we are TRULY "sovereigns"..? then WHY didn't the people
then
> stop the passing of the Federal Reserve Act [which I have completely
> read - YEARS ago], THEN?
>
> I submit, we were a spiritually spineless people then and are even
> worse today. MUCH worse. This is The End Time. They are as The Days
of
> Noah. People didn't listen then to the simple Truth and they aren't
now
> either. Choice. We are collectively choosing our own deaths.
>
> The time is coming SOON where ALL who would not listen [and who have
> flippantly and arrogantly rejected every warning.., including this
> warning about disregarding "THE PLAN"] will rue these days [of
> warning].
>
> I continue to ask..? WHERE are all the supposed God-fearing MEN? The
> Great and Dreadful day is nigh at hand and NO ONE will escape what is
> coming due. NO ONE.
>
> Most of the so-called "patriot community" has been given these
warnings
> over and over. I personally may not have hit them all.., but word
does
> travel. "Patriots", at large know who I am and my history and prefer
to
> label me a nut because I condemn their "revered CON-stitution". As I
> have said.., fair enough.
>
> I'll pop in and out of groups "fishing" to see if there any there who
> "have an ear to hear" and like me..? finally got tired of all the
talk.
> Doesn't look very good so far in this group. It will soon be time for
> me to move along and none of you will have to hear anymore from me.
>
> LLTF,
> Roland
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Naveed wrote:
>
> the other thing i'd like to throw into the mix roland is that america
> was strong because she resisted the inbred satanist central banksters
> move to prop up a central bank on the united states. they weren't
> successful in capturing america until 1913......
>
>
> janet phelan <jcphelan10@...> wrote:
> > lt should be obvious to all of us that the engine running the show
at
> > this time is operating off of a very dark force. There is no
> > religious system in the world that I am aware of that advocates
> > torture in the name of any deity. Not to mention the other
atrocities
> > being perpetrated across our beleaguered globe. Personally, I
think
> > it behooves us to be tolerant of those who interpret these events
in a
> > Biblical manner. Once again, we are attacking each other at the
very
> > time we need to come together.
> >
> > "Why can't we all just get along?"
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > Janet
> >
> > greg nixon <nxngrg@...> wrote:
> >> Sorry,
> >>
> >> A secular Republic is what made America great. Theocracy is
another
> >> form of tyranny.
> >>
> >> Roland Croteau <rolandcro@...> wrote:
> >>> Hello Greg,
> >>>
> >>> I am the author of that post.
> >>>
> >>> Want to attack me? Why not do it head to head rather than as an
> >>> anonymous post?
> >>>
> >>> Having watched the NON-moving freedom movement [including this
one
> >>> aspect group{s} regarding the 9-11 issue] I could much more
easily
> >>> accuse you of the same thing. Why? Because people like you keep
> >>> promoting putting off the inevitable. And what is the
inevitable..?
> >>> look at American history and you MIGHT get a clue.
> >>>
> >>> But with that said..? consider yourself and this group as being
> >>> "noticed". You will not be able to say you weren't told.
> >>>
> >>> The solution is OBVIOUS; return to God's Laws - NOT the U.S.
> >>> CON-stitution.
> >>>
> >>> I believe you are not only a fool..? but a coward.
> >>> Roland
> >>>
> >>> On Feb 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Greg Nixon wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Totally,
> >>>
> >>>   Attn: Mods Perhaps go to membership approval for a brief
period?
> >>>
> >>>   Also ask Jolly to add more moderators (people we know) to
increase
> >>>   the the ability to catch in the act.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn Ertell"
> >>>   <lynnertell@> wrote:
> >>>   >
> >>>   >
> >>>   > The posting below (and the individual responsible) are
perfect
> >>>   > examples of what needs to me moderated OUT of this group.
> >>>   >
> >>>   > Expect to be deluged with more of this kind of
pseudo-Biblical
> >>>   > snake-oil "prophecy" and fake religious mumbo-jumbo.
> >>>   >
> >>>   > It's intended to muddy the waters, turn off and drive away
> >>> rational
> >>>   > people and bog us down with a lot of crap.....
> >>>   > Transparently obvious as COINTELPRO...
> >>>   >
> >>>   >
> >>>   >
> >>>   > --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Roland Croteau
> >>> <rolandcro@>
> >>>   > wrote:
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > Greetings,
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > I hope this finds all well and in good spirit.
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > As a serious student and activist for more than 25 years I
hope
> >>>   I can
> >>>   > > offer something of value to this group.
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > I believe anyone who has "done the work" knows the U.S.
> >>>   government was,
> >>>   > > at the very least, complicit in 9-11. And "we the sheople"
are
> >>>   hoping
> >>>   > > they will admit it publicly??
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > I see government as force and force is power. In all of
> >>> recorded
> >>>   > > history I have NEVER seen force/power relinquish just by
> >>>   > > asking/petitioning.
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > Does it make any sense that government will this time?
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > In my studied/activist opinion.., 9-11 is merely a part of
a
> >>>   global
> >>>   > > scheme to forward the global agenda of the elite to create
> >>>   global
> >>>   > > governance.
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > The links below offer information that ties it all
together and
> >>>   then at
> >>>   > > "THE PLAN" link, offers the ONLY solution out of this mess.
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > Of course you will need to decide for yourself. Should you
> >>>   decide to do
> >>>   > > the work/study.., I would NOT recommend "skip reading" for
each
> >>>   > > sentence in each presentation builds/lays a foundation for
the
> >>>   next,
> >>>   > > offering fullest comprehension for the reader the first
time
> >>>   through
> >>>   > > [as it is recommended they be read more than once].
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > Regards,
> >>>   > > Roland
> >>>   > >
> >>>   > > http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.info
> >>>   > > http://i.am/jah/plan.htm
> >>>   > > http://360.yahoo.com/rolandcro
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