Discussion about 09/11/2001: [911TruthAction] Digest Number 1268

Friday, May 05, 2006

[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1268

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Fwd: [WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED] NewsTarget: FDA tyranny and the censor
From: "Kevin Hammond" sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com
2. Re: Are we still in the USA?
From: "Kevin Hammond" sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com
3. Re: Dear Janos was Not "anti-Semites" -- "Voltairians" --
From: "goldbugger_y2k" pgalier@neo.rr.com
4. Re: Zelikow ,the new GoebbellsEXCELLENT Similarity Description!!
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
5. Re: Flight 77 question
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
6. Re: Fw: Government trying to suppress aviation security documents re
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
7. Re: thermite cut......ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situat
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
8. Cutter Charges� Brought Down WTC Buildings
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
9. Bush Claims A United Front With Germany ? - ( It appears since Bush
From: "ranger116@webtv.net" ranger116@webtv.net
10. When War Making Criminals Get What They Deserve
From: "Cathy Garger" savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com
11. FW: [TheEnlightenedSouls] UPRISING
From: "Eva Walker" cowgirl269704@msn.com
12. Re: Cutter Charges� Brought Down WTC Buildings
From: "goldbugger_y2k" pgalier@neo.rr.com
13. books
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
14. Should the U.S. Bomb Iran
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
15. No giant bomb tests in Nevada ~send.
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
16. Failed ,after $8 billion a Month
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
17. Performance pay
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
18. A Day in the Life: 5/4/6
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." prez@usa-exile.org
19. Re: FW: [TheEnlightenedSouls] UPRISING
From: "mann david" dmann51@yahoo.com
20. commondreamsnews: High Prices Caused by Iraq War -=- Amnesty Interna
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
21. Ramsey Clark: What�s At Stake? --- Want to restore the const
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
22. David Rubinson: Depleted Uranium - Far Worse Than 9/11/01 Killing -
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
23. What is new role of the Benisraelis in the Indian Government and in
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net
24. Re: Dear Janos was Not "anti-Semites" -- "Voltairians" --
From: "Kevin Hammond" sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com
25. Fw: Will Germany arrest Iranian President for Holocaust Denial? -=-
From: "Dick Eastman" olfriend@nwinfo.net

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Message 1
From: "Kevin Hammond" sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 7:50pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Fwd: [WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED] NewsTarget: FDA tyranny and the censor

ROFLAMO! I LIKE you Scott! yer a gem of a fellah!

Scott Peden <scotpeden@cruzio.com> wrote:

v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} But the Multi National Mega Corporations, Big Phara specifically can sell poisons that kill people and their almost non existent disclaimers protects them, but get well from eating food that isn�t washed in petroleum based chemicals! Hell No!

-----Original Message-----
From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Hammond
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 12:09 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Fwd: [WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED] NewsTarget: FDA tyranny and the censorship of cherry health facts

Some might say that this is off topic, But if one looks deep enough into the bigger picture, One will find that it is all holistically connected.

Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:

Note: forwarded message attached.

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Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 12:15:31 EDT
Subject: [WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED] NewsTarget: FDA tyranny and the censorship of cherry health facts

You are under arrest for cherry trafficking, back away from the cherries and
put your hands up!!!....

FDA tyranny and the censorship of cherry health facts (opinion)
Permalink: _http://www.NewsTarget.com/019366.html_
(http://www.NewsTarget.com/019366.html)

In the past, I jokingly said that broccoli might someday be banned as soon
as the public begins to learn about the potent anti-cancer chemicals found in
the vegetable. That’s because, as I jested, the FDA wouldn’t want people
treating their own cancer with the anti-cancer medicines found in cruciferous
vegetables. But it seems that my joke wasn’t so funny after all, because the FDA
is now threatening cherry growers with raids to confiscate their cherries,
haul them into court, and put them out of business for doing one simple thing
that _the FDA_ (http://www.webseed.com/the_FDA.html) cannot stand to allow:
The distribution of scientific information describing the _health benefits_
(http://www.webseed.com/health_benefits.html) of cherries.

On October 17, 2005, the FDA sent warning letters to 29 companies that market
_cherries_ (http://www.webseed.com/cherries.html) . In these letters, the
FDA threatened these companies with legal action and told them they had to
remove the scientific information on their websites that described the health
benefits of the natural medicines found in cherries, such as the anthocyanins
that reduce _inflammation_ (http://www.webseed.com/inflammation.html) for
arthritis sufferers. According to the warped FDA logic that now seems to be
standard, when cherry growers post scientific information about the health
benefits of their cherries, they magically transform their cherries into drugs and
therefore, as drugs, they must have FDA approval in order to sell them in the
United States. _Continued........_ (http://www.NewsTarget.com/019366.html)

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Message 2
From: "Kevin Hammond" sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 7:59pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Are we still in the USA?

Oops! well, you are a exception my dear brother who I most deeply respect. And good work too.

Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:
ahem, i'm 23!

I just happened to wake up a friend of mine just today,

In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
- Notebook, 1904

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----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2006 9:03:13 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Are we still in the USA?

NO! WE ARE NOT STILL IN THE USA! WE ARE IN FUCKING LALA LAND! I ran into a chinese kid today that I gave a copy of lloose change to and told him how important it was and to PLEASE watch it asap and it has been a FUCKING MONTH and the worthless little punk still has not watched it! Too busy he said! So I guess thousands of lives is'nt worth a little bit of time! I wanted to reach out and strangle the little punk! Or slap him or something! And the fact that 75 % of kids ranging in age from 18-25 cant find either louisiana or iraq on a GODDAMNED MAP might tell you what we are UP AGAINST HERE! And from what i have seen of people that are actually ACTIVE DOING SOMETHING aboutthis stuff I would say that a large majority are over 35. And if some young shit wants to get offended by what i am saying here about your pathetic generation then PROVE me WRONG and get off of your lazy pathetic punk ass and DO SOMETHING! And while yer at it ya might want to get others from
your generation to DO SOMETHING as well.

Sincerely,
46 year old Kevin

Bugs <brawny@twlakes.net> wrote:
Administration Is Singing More Than One Tune on Spanish Version of Anthem By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 3, 2006; Page A06

President Bush declared last week that the national anthem should be sung in English not Spanish, but he evidently never told his own government or campaign organizations.
The State Department posts four Spanish versions of "The Star-Spangled Banner" on its Web site, and accounts from the 2000 election suggest that the song was at times performed in Spanish at Bush campaign events. Critics even turned up one reference to Bush himself singing the anthem in Spanish on the trail, but there was no confirmation.

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The furor over a newly released Spanish version of the anthem has underscored once again the power of symbols in American politics. At a time when the immigration debate in Washington has divided Republicans on Capitol Hill, drawn hundreds of thousands of protesters into the streets and triggered a nationwide boycott, all sides are scrutinizing the words and records of the president and other politicians for signs of inconsistency.
Bush waded into the matter last week after British producer Adam Kidron issued " Nuestro Himno ." Responding to a reporter, Bush said: "I think the national anthem ought to be sung in English. And I think people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn English, and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in English."
But Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice chose not to repeat his formulation Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation." "I've heard the national anthem done in rap versions, country versions, classical versions," she said. "The individualization of the American national anthem is quite underway."
And there seems little evidence that the matter had concerned Bush before. The Center for American Progress, a liberal group run by Clinton chief of staff John D. Podesta, posted on its blog a reference to Bush singing the anthem in Spanish. In his book, "American Dynasty," Kevin Phillips wrote that Bush "would drop in at Hispanic festivals and parties, sometimes joining in singing 'The Star-Spangled Banner' in Spanish, sometimes partying with a 'Viva Bush' mariachi band flown in from Texas."
White House spokesmen and former campaign operatives said they could not recall whether that happened, though given the level of Bush's Spanish proficiency, they seemed dubious.
"Honestly, I don't remember him ever singing the national anthem in Spanish," said Leonard Rodriguez, who was national director of Hispanic Coalition for Bush/Cheney 2000. "I can't see any of his advisers recommending it." But he added: "They may have played it. That's certainly in the realm of possibility." And Rodriguez said he does not recall Bush ever objecting to it.
The Center for American Progress also cited a news report that the anthem was performed in Spanish by singer Jon Secada at a 2001 inauguration event, but Bush aides and most news accounts said he actually sang a Spanish version of "America the Beautiful."
Secada later performed "The Star-Spangled Banner" at the White House, in May 2001, but in English, according to the White House.

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Message 3
From: "goldbugger_y2k" pgalier@neo.rr.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 8:38pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Dear Janos was Not "anti-Semites" -- "Voltairians" --

911 and every other major event throughout history that has affected
mankind adversly was planned by the illuminati decades and centuries
in advance according to Alan Watt. Watt, IMHO has extraordinary
insights that should be investigated by everyone. He's pleading for us
to wake up to how we've been manipulated and used by the would be
masters of the universe by implanting beliefs and mind
control(Tavistock, i.e.)

By laying blame on zionists, Jews, Jesuits, etc, we're losing sight of
the forest for the trees. All they are are tools used to meet their
agenda, namely the NWO, a dream of these psychopaths for centuries.
Please listen and read what Watt has to say for mankinds sake and yours.

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/

Snip from book section:

Sample Page from Book 2

As a preface to understanding, I think it necessary to go through the
standard phases of "waking up."

1. An Individual vaguely perceives something is wrong in his/her life.
This takes the form of fatigue at trying to "keep up" with real or
imaginary crisis, encroachment of government into every aspect of
life, increasing taxationand so on. Sometimes it takes the loss of
work and the realization that the safety net they contributed to has a
gaping hole in the middle.

2. The individual discovers that justice is a joke and that all control
mechanisms go up like a pyramid, taking their property, taxes etc.
with it. This wealth then is distributed to "help bail-out" or "prop-up"
"failing" transnational corporations. Left-overs are channeled via
Overseas Developement Corporations to "developing nations,"
where the loot is pocketed by front-men and their beaurocrats.
Crumbs filter down to social services, which, after being guzzled by
directors and staff, leave little for the needy except bundles of forms,
in triplicate, of course.

3. The individual looks around for others already exposing "the
conspiracy." These established champions inform him which
"conspiracy" books to read. Having then done so, the individual
begins to "expose" the corruption, first to friends, then when
friendless, he either publishes what he has gleaned or becomes
paranoid and withdraws from society altogether.

Why does the waking-up process fail to spread quickly through
society?

1. He is terribly naive. He believes the massive corruption "just
happened" to begin in his own lifetime, otherwise mummy or daddy
or teacher would have warned him. It does not occur to him that his
Parents, teachers etc. were as conditioned as he was.

2. Most people do not wish to know. They, like farm animals, have
been domesticated. Wild animals (original) have natural instincts of
self-preservation. They sense the evil intentions of predators and
they survive by trusting their instincts. Wild herds do not "hang
around" when one or more members drops dead. Specially bred
sheep do.

3. Pavlovian conditioning/response indoctrination has been fed to
every individual, through schooling. The media then takes over.
Peoples' opinions are simply sound-bites from news, talk-shows or
quotes from glossy magazines.

4. Trust replaces the instinct of self-preservation. It over-rides
memory and logic. Controllers and shepherds encourage trust.

5. When threatened with loss of possessions, property, access to
health care, etc., people turn to government(predators) for help,
or/and organized religion. Should an individual persist in pushing for
his "rights," he will be removed from society and placed in a
psychiatric hospital or prison on any number of pretexes. The
alternative is death by "accident," or shot by police while 'resisting
arrest.'

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@...>
wrote:
>
> you have it backwards my friend. It is the Jesuits that are in
control of and working in tandem WITH the Zionists. Let us not forget
that Adam Weishaupt WAS a jesuit. Let us not forget that the
Rothschilds do all of the SECRET books for the vatican. One MUST look
MUCH DEEPER than that which one can see. have you looked into ANY of
the information that I have offered to you about them? Just wait and
see who the big peacemaker will be. I PRAY that you see the light
before it is too late.
>
> Kevin
>
> Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@...> wrote:
> I have to defer judgement on this issue, because I simply don't
know much about the Jesuits. Smith claims they're a dying breed, most
of whom get around with walkers, and are incapable of taking over
their nursing home, let alone the world, but that's Smith, and exactly
what he would say if he were trying to conceal some type of Jesuit
conspiracy.
> Opinion-wise, I can only move toward what's supported by evidence,
and I see the zionists holding all the cards. If there is Jesuit
involvement, it's also possible that zionists have infiltrated the
Jesuits, as they've infiltrated every other group.
>
> Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@...> wrote:
> One thing though Jolly. I do not trust this Smith fellah.
Somethin not right about him. And anyone who says that the Jesuits
aint in on this is a complete idiot.
>
> Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@...> wrote: I counted three excellent
posts in a row by Mr. Eastman. Hitting the nail on the head. I think
we have to prevent the 9-11 blame from falling on a patsy (Bush) or
nothing will change, meaning we've done all this work for nothing. The
truth movement is a lot bigger than 9-11, because for decades we've
been lied to about everything important, and a "truth movement" that
hides half the facts is a bullshit movement. We need to not only
expose that 9-11 was an inside job, but the entire hidden power
structure that thrives on killing us, and will continue to do so until
they're exposed. Zionism is undoubtably the world's cancer, but we
should be wise enough to remove it surgically, and precisely. Although
there will be some solidarity amoung some Jews, the vast majority of
American Jews know nothing of Zionist plans, and can be counted on to
do the right thing. Make sure we proceed with no hint of racism, and
their solidarity will
> reside with us.
>
> Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@...> wrote: Now THAT is very well
put! Mr. EastMan! Thank you for being so specific and for
differentiating. I guess those that would let these certain Zionists
off the hook would also in turn let people like Hitler and their ilk
off the hook as well Hmm. For their ""Mistakes""?
>
> www.fightthenwo.org
>
> Dick Eastman <olfriend@...> wrote:
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Dick Eastman,
>
> > What are you trying to say; Jews are not human
> > like the rest of us; deserve no understanding/compassion
> > even in their errors?
>
>
> Dear Janos,
>
> What I say -- not the author that I forward -- is that there is an
astoundingly powerful subgroup of Zionists who think so lowly of
non-Jewish people (Hindus, Americans, Palestinians, etc.) that they
have conducted false-flag terrorism (including the Sept. 11, 2001
attacks in New York and Washington) in order to instigate genocidal
war in the Mideast and Central Asia. I point to a subset of Zionists.
There is also a larger sub-group of Jews (including both Zionists and
Non-Zionists) who realize that September 11, 2001 was a mass-murder
provocateur black-op yet who, because of the solidarity of Jew for
Jew, feel compelled to cover-up for the Zionist perpetrators despite
the latter having committed mass-murder terror provoking genocidal
wars and a wave of police state totalitarianism around the world.
>
> There are many Jews -- I know several -- who would be glad to
endorse what I have written above.
>
> I personally believe -- as all true liberals believe -- that crime
and guilt map to the individual not to the collective entity. Having
said that I must add that criminals operate within groups and commit
crimes on behalf of groups. In other words the powerful deviant
sub-group of Zionists have killed for Zionism as other deviant
individuals murder for love -- this does not mean that Zionism is
guilty any more than murder for a lover means that love is guilty.
Zionist is a set of traditions -- cultural practices -- that are
transmitted within the family and by the rabbis and others -- there
are exclusive -- Jewish supremacist teachings in the Talmud for
example -- that promote "black ops" against the gentiles to further
Jewish/Zionist interests.
>
> It is a fact that the attacks in New York and Washington (called
9-11 in the US) were committed with the cooperation (perpetration) of
leadership in the White House and Pentagon -- this leadership is to a
man Zionist and mostly Jewish. The White House and Pentagon are not
staffed by Saudis -- or hadn't you heard?
>
> That is what I am saying.
>
> Most sincerely,
>
> Dick Eastman
> Yakima, Washington USA
> Every man is responsible to every other man.
>
> What convinced me that 9-11 was a false-flag inside-job.
> 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Janos
> To: issuesonline@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 2:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [issuesonline] Not "anti-Semites" -- "Voltairians" --
250 years and it's still the same
>
>
> Dear Dick Eastman,
>
> What are you trying to say; Jews are not human like the rest of
us; deserve no understanding/compassion even in their errors?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message 4
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 10:44pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Zelikow ,the new GoebbellsEXCELLENT Similarity Description!!

spooky

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Judy Cunningham
<drjudyforjustice@...> wrote:
>
> EXCELLENT SIMILARITY DESCRIPTION!!
>
> mojo_j_2000 <mojo_j_2000@...> wrote: Zelikow's area of academic
expertise is the creation and maintenance
> of, in his words, "public myths" or "public presumptions," which
he
> defines as "beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not
necessarily
> known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within
the
> relevant political community." In his academic work and elsewhere
he
> has taken a special interest in what he has called "`searing'
> or `molding' events [that] take on `transcendent' importance and,
> therefore, retain their power even as the experiencing generation
> passes from the scene
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_D._Zelikow
>
> Right now, we haven't completed implementing a diplomatic
strategy.
> That diplomatic strategy involves underscoring to the Iranian
regime
> the costs of its behaviour."
> http://news.ft.com/cms/s/80adc11a-d60c-11da-8b3a-0000779e2340.html
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Message 5
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 10:45pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Flight 77 question

chickenhawk cheney ordered flt 93 shot down...the movie is bs

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "mojo_j_2000"
<mojo_j_2000@...> wrote:
>
> Don't forget Cleveland Hopkins...secret landing and disposal...
>
>
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@>
> wrote:
> >
> > 7 of the 11 Saudis, that our government said were on those
planes
> (though
> > there are no Arabic names on any of the passenger lists) have
been
> spotted
> > on security cameras, most of them being in Saudi Arabia after
9/11.
> >
> > That's what, 40% of the suicide terrorists confirmed as alive
and
> 2 out of 4
> > planes? Odds are, if that much is false and the number of times
> that Bush
> > said that 9/11 would never be investigated, I'd assume that
there
> is a lot
> > more to the smoke and mirrors than what has been proven.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Richard
Pierce
> > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:22 AM
> > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Re: Flight 77 question
> >
> > I've read articles a while back that those airliners were still
> flying. A
> > couple were actually mothballed around 2 years after 9-11. The
> question
> > remains, what happened to the people?
> >
> > Dick Eastman <olfriend@> wrote:
> > It could not have gone anywhere except Reagan National --
landed
> and taxied
> > to a hanger where it was greeted by some of the 87 foreign
> employees with
> > illegal top security clearances (who were later deported by
> Ashcroft with no
> > explanation) Reagan was the last airport to open -- the plane
> was either
> > given new livery or else went to a chop shop -- unless it
wasn't
> really
> > Flight 77, in which case it may simply have resumed regular
> service for some
> > airline.
> >
> > Who in the hell told you that Reagan National was out of the
> question???
> > This 911 truth cause is moving backwards!!!
> >
> > Dick Eastman
> > Yakima, Washington
> >
> > p.s. remember, the first reports on D.C. radio where that an
> airliner had
> > crashed at the 14th-street bridge -- which would have been
passed
> by the
> > Boeing after it flew over the Pentagon, banking starboard, on
its
> way to
> > Reagan. It may or may not have directly landed -- it may have
> gotten into a
> > cue -- of course the ATCs and FAA and airport personel were
> infiltrated by
> > agents of this black op.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: APFN <mailto:apfn@>
> > To: kevin mckaye <mailto:kevin.mckaye@>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:02 PM
> > Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Flight 77 question
> >
> > kevin mckaye wrote:
> >
> >
> > Congratulations on a great effort at revealing important
questions
> > concerning the attack on the Pentagon. I have one question
though:
> What
> > happened to flight 77? If the 757 didn't fly into the Pentagon,
> and it
> > obviously didn't land at Regan International, where did it go?
If
> it had
> > flown elsewhere was it not track by radar?
> > Appreciate your thoughts on this,
> > Thanks & keep up the great work!
> > Kevin McKaye
> > 33 Burnaby Blvd.,
> > Toronto, Ontario
> > CANADA
> > M4R 1B5
> >
> >
> > AS SOON AS I FIND IT I'LL LET YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU FIND IT
> FIRST!!!!
> >
> >
> > Where is the Plane, Flight 77?
> <http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm>
> > We are Not saying, that was was NO plane, Flight 77 that crashed
> into the
> > Pentagon. We are saying, Where IS Flight 77, at the CRASH SITE?
> EXCELLENT!
> > ...
> > www.apfn.org/apfn/ <http://www.apfn.org/apfn/> flight77.htm -
75k -
> Cached
> > <http://72.14.203.104/search?
> q=cache:cdv9kHty6W4J:www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77
> > .htm+WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1> - Similar
pages
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> hl=en&lr=&q=related:www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77
> > .htm> - Remove result
> > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-
> 8&q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&btnme
> > ta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web>
> > Part 1-What convinced me that Flight 77 was not the killer jet,
> by ...
> > <http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_deastman1.htm>
> > Flight 77 was going when it flew over the crashing killer
jet. ...
> While
> > south of the crash site Riskus was watching Flight 77 pass
within
> 100 feet
> > of him, ...
> > www.apfn.org/apfn/ <http://www.apfn.org/apfn/> 77_deastman1.htm -

> 62k -
> > Cached
> > <http://72.14.203.104/search?
> q=cache:4O3HKR2PLhsJ:www.apfn.org/apfn/77_deast
> > man1.htm+WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2> - Similar
> pages
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> hl=en&lr=&q=related:www.apfn.org/apfn/77_deast
> > man1.htm> - Remove result
> > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-
> 8&q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&btnme
> > ta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web>
> > CNN.com: American Airlines Flight 77
> >
>
<http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.h
> tml>
> > Passenger and crew list for the flight which crashed into the
> Pentagon on
> > September 11th.
> > www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/ <http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/>
> > trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html - 38k - Cached
> > <http://72.14.203.104/search?
> q=cache:L4MnkeOyNAQJ:www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/
> >
>
trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html+WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&gl=us
> &ct=cln
> > k&cd=3> - Similar pages
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> hl=en&lr=&q=related:www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/
> > trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html> - Remove result
> > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-
> 8&q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&btnme
> > ta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web>
> > Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77 - Sierra Times.com
> > <http://www.sierratimes.com/03/07/02/article_tro.htm>
> > Now Updated: No Arabs on Flight 77: Part II -The Passengers I am
> an ex Naval
> > line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New
> Orleans, ...
> > www.sierratimes.com/03/07/02/article_tro.htm
> > <http://www.sierratimes.com/03/07/02/article_tro.htm> - 51k -
> Cached
> > <http://72.14.203.104/search?
> q=cache:Gdco0GdJ_fwJ:www.sierratimes.com/03/07/
> >
02/article_tro.htm+WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4> -
> Similar
> > pages
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> hl=en&lr=&q=related:www.sierratimes.com/03/07/
> > 02/article_tro.htm> - Remove result
> > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-
> 8&q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&btnme
> > ta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web>
> > Flight 77 dot info <http://www.flight77.info/>
> > since our original request was for images of flight 77 IMPACTING
> the
> > pentagon ... and because i'm arguing that flight 77 did hit the
> pentagon -
> > that doesn't ...
> > www.flight77.info/ - 105k - Cached
> > <http://72.14.203.104/search?
> q=cache:NzG3eVErzukJ:www.flight77.info/+WHERE+I
> > S+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5> - Similar pages
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> hl=en&lr=&q=related:www.flight77.info/> -
> > Remove result
> > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-
> 8&q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&btnme
> > ta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web>
> > Killtown's: Did Flight 77 really crash into the Pentagon?
> > <http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77.html>
> > Flight 77 was allegedly hijacked by five Arab Islamic terrorists
> on an ...
> > Officials claim the the flight recorders from Flight 77 and the
> remains of
> > all ...
> > thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77.html - 26k - Cached
> > <http://72.14.203.104/search?
> q=cache:uWkDDl6f6LIJ:thewebfairy.com/killtown/f
> > light77.html+WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6> -
> Similar pages
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> hl=en&lr=&q=related:thewebfairy.com/killtown/f
> > light77.html> - Remove result
> > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-
> 8&q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&btnme
> > ta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web>
> > American Airlines Flight 77.
> > <http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian/Pentagon/what-hit-
> it.htm>
> > Detailed Analysis Of The Crash At The Pentagon And The Faked
> Explosion
> > Pictures.
> > 911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian/Pentagon/what-hit-it.htm -
> 59k -
> > Cached
> > <http://72.14.203.104/search?
> q=cache:_4NfRRAlGl8J:911research.wtc7.net/mirro
> > rs/guardian/Pentagon/what-hit-
> it.htm+WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&
> > cd=7> - Similar pages
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> hl=en&lr=&q=related:911research.wtc7.net/mirro
> > rs/guardian/Pentagon/what-hit-it.htm> - Remove result
> > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-
> 8&q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&btnme
> > ta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web>
> > 9-11 Research
> <http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight77.html>
> > Flight 77. The Third Jet Commandeered on September 11th.
American
> Airlines
> > Flight 77 is the plane that is commonly believed to have crashed
> into the
> > ...
> > 911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight77.html - 18k - Cached
> > <http://72.14.203.104/search?
> q=cache:sYnX0Lh546AJ:911research.wtc7.net/plane
> >
>
s/attack/flight77.html+WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8>
> -
> > Similar pages
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> hl=en&lr=&q=related:911research.wtc7.net/plane
> > s/attack/flight77.html> - Remove result
> > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-
> 8&q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&btnme
> > ta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web>
> > American Airlines Flight 77 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77>
> > Security camera image of the moment that American Airlines
Flight
> 77 hit the
> > ... American Airlines Flight 77 was a morning flight that
> routinely flew
> > from ...
> > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77 - 34k - Cached
> > <http://72.14.203.104/search?
> q=cache:b3llX5JuMdEJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amer
> >
>
ican_Airlines_Flight_77+WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=9>
> -
> > Similar pages
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> hl=en&lr=&q=related:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amer
> > ican_Airlines_Flight_77> - Remove result
> > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-
> 8&q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&btnme
> > ta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web>
> > USATODAY.com - American Flight 77 victims at a glance
> > <http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/12/victim-capsule-
> flight77.htm>
> > American Flight 77 victims at a glance A Boeing 757 en route
from
> Dulles
> > International Airport near Washington to Los Angeles. The plane
> was carrying
> > 58 ...
> > www.usatoday.com/news/nation/
> <http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/>
> > 2001/09/12/victim-capsule-flight77.htm - 57k - Cached
> > <http://72.14.203.104/search?
> q=cache:66EgHaRY2wQJ:www.usatoday.com/news/nati
> > on/2001/09/12/victim-capsule-
> flight77.htm+WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&gl=us&ct=
> > clnk&cd=10> - Similar pages
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> hl=en&lr=&q=related:www.usatoday.com/news/nati
> > on/2001/09/12/victim-capsule-flight77.htm> - Remove result
> > <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ned=&ie=UTF-
> 8&q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&btnme
> > ta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web>
> >
> >
> > Result Page:
> >
> >
> > 1
> >
> > 2
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N>
> >
> > 3
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&lr=&start=20&sa=N>
> >
> > 4
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
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> >
> > 5
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
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> >
> > 6
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&lr=&start=50&sa=N>
> >
> > 7
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
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> >
> > 8
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> >
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> >
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> > <http://www.google.com/search?
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> >
> > Next
> > <http://www.google.com/search?
> q=WHERE+IS+FLIGHT+77&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N>
> >
> > kevin mckaye wrote:
> >
> >
> > Congratulations on a great effort at revealing important
questions
> > concerning the attack on the Pentagon. I have one question
though:
> What
> > happened to flight 77? If the 757 didn't fly into the Pentagon,
> and it
> > obviously didn't land at Regan International, where did it go?
If
> it had
> > flown elsewhere was it not track by radar?
> > Appreciate your thoughts on this,
> > Thanks & keep up the great work!
> > Kevin McKaye
> > 33 Burnaby Blvd.,
> > Toronto, Ontario
> > CANADA
> > M4R 1B5
> >
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Message 6
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 10:47pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Fw: Government trying to suppress aviation security documents re

zog hides and lies

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "mojo_j_2000"
<mojo_j_2000@...> wrote:
>
> has martin been disbarred yet?
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: "echo" <echo@>
> > To: <911-disc@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > April 27, 2006
> >
> > [911-disc] [Fwd: Government trying to suppress unclassified
> documents
> > relating to 9/11]
> >
> >
> > Sent to me by Viviane:
> >
> > http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/04/26/moussaoui.aviation/index.html
> >
> > U.S. seeks to keep evidence from 9/11 families
> > Prosecutors ask Moussaoui judge to reconsider order
> > From Phil Hirschkorn
> >
> > Wednesday, April 26, 2006; Posted: 9:29 p.m. EDT (01:29 GMT)
> >
> > ALEXANDRIA, Virginia (CNN) -- Prosecutors asked a judge to
rethink
> > granting 9/11 families suing airlines access to evidence
gathered
> for
> > the criminal case against al Qaeda terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui.
> >
> > U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema's April 7 order requires
> > prosecutors to provide copies of all unclassified aviation
security
> > documents to attorneys representing September 11 families in a
> civil
> > lawsuit pending in New York.
> >
> > Prosecutors called the order "unprecedented" and urged Brinkema
to
> > withdraw it. The motion was filed by Chuck Rosenberg, the U.S.
> attorney
> > for the Eastern District of Virginia.
> >
> > Brinkema's order would allow the families' attorneys access
> to "highly
> > sensitive" law enforcement documents and could compromise the
> > continuing investigation into the September 11, 2001, terrorist
> > attacks. The inquiry is "the largest criminal investigation in
our
> > nation's history, which is still ongoing," the motion says.
> >
> > "This order will likely provoke negative consequences for
numerous
> > criminal cases in the future," prosecutors said. Rosenberg
> requested a
> > May 19 hearing.
> >
> > American and United airlines each lost two passenger jets to al
> Qaeda
> > hijackers on September 11, 2001.
> >
> > Among the 65 plaintiffs in the civil case is Mike Low, whose
> daughter,
> > Sara, was a flight attendant on the first plane to strike the
World
> > Trade Center. He testified as a government witness in the
criminal
> > case.
> >
> > The plaintiffs sued the airlines for wrongful death in 2002,
rather
> > than accept compensation from a federal fund that gave $7
billion
> to
> > families. Brinkema agreed with their attorneys that legislation
> > creating the victims compensation fund protected the rights of
> > nonparticipating families to bring a negligence claim.
> >
> > In their motion, prosecutors argued that the aviation security
> > documents are specially selected materials provided to a small
> group of
> > attorneys cleared to handle sensitive evidence in the Moussaoui
> case.
> >
> > "The government never contemplated this material would be
disclosed
> > more widely for use in private civil litigation," the motion
says.
> >
> > Ron Motley, an attorney who successfully argued for access to the
> > documents last month, said he would reply to the government's
> motion
> > next week.
> >
> > "We have not asked the government to give the 9/11 victims one
> single
> > thing they didn't provide to Moussaoui's lawyers," Motley said.
> >
> > The order would require the government to begin turning over
> copies of
> > documents two weeks after a verdict is returned in Moussaoui's
> trial.
> >
> > The plaintiffs have struggled with the Transportation Security
> > Administration to obtain pre-September 11 aviation security
> documents.
> >
> > "It is amazing what some agencies think is secret," Brinkema said
> > before issuing her order last month. "As a culture, we need to be
> > careful not to be so wrapped up in secrecy that we lose track of
> our
> > core values and laws."
> >
> > The families' pursuit was triggered by the revelation early in
the
> > Moussaoui trial that TSA lawyer Carla Martin improperly coached
> > witnesses. Martin, who had prepared aviation security documents
and
> > witnesses in the case, sent witnesses transcripts and commentary
by
> > e-mail, even though a court order required scheduled witnesses to
> > ignore the proceedings.
> >
> > Martin's e-mail chain revealed she had been communicating with
> airline
> > attorneys, and the families' attorneys suspected collusion.
> >
> > ==============
> > ***NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this
> > material is distributed without profit to those who have
expressed
> a
> > prior interest in receiving the included information for
research
> and
> > educational purposes.***
> > ==============
> >
>

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Message 7
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 10:51pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: thermite cut......ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situat

Like a modern-day Galileo or Luther, Jones has exposed the flaws in
the official version, "a myth," he says, "which has taken on
religious proportions.

"There is a clear disconnect between what the official reports say
happened and what actually happened," Jones says. "A scientific
theory has to be falsifiable. It must be able to be tested and
challenged.

"The data stands on its own. Where are the honest scientists?" Jones
asks. "Take the blinders off and find out what happened."

The official 9-11 reports are what Jones calls "pathological
science," in which investigators ignore all evidence that
contradicts the conclusion they have been asked to prove.

AFP contacted three scientists who support the official theory to
ask if they would review Jones's paper.

Thomas W. Eagar of MIT refused to even look at the paper and said
there is no evidence of molten metal pouring from the WTC.
Challenged with the
evidence, he hung up the phone.

Zdenek P. Bazant of Northwestern University submitted his fire-
induced collapse theory to the American Society of Civil Engineers
(ASCE) two days after 9-11, without examining any evidence. Asked if
he would review Jones's paper, Bazant also refused, "I have seen
Jones's fiction before. If you want my private opinion, it is
nothing but sensationalism," he said. "His purported refutation of
my analysis is baseless."

Asked to simply look at five photos in an e-mail showing the
cascading molten metal and core columns, which appear to have been
cut with thermite, Bazant responded, "I do not have time."

Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, an Iranian-born professor at Berkeley, who
was a member of the ASCE team studying the WTC collapse, also
refused to look at Jones's paper.

"I will not be able to find time to review the material that you
have sent me," said Astaneh-Asl.

> wow...the guilty jump to change the crime scene in just 2
days...they
> started turning dirt at 8:30 am today at wtc site
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "mojo_j_2000"
<mojo_j_2000@>
> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?
noframes;read=87970
> >
>

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Message 8
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 10:52pm(PDT)
Subject: Cutter Charges� Brought Down WTC Buildings

Professor Says `Cutter Charges' Brought Down WTC Buildings

Evidence of Thermite Uncovered at World Trade Center

By Christopher Bollyn

PROVO, Utah�"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act," said the British writer George Orwell. Orwell's
words aptly describe the situation of Steven E.

Jones, a soft-spoken professor at Brigham Young University (BYU) who
has turned his attention to the unanswered questions of the Sept. 11
attacks.
Provo, the home of BYU, is America's most conservative city in the
most Republican county. With more than 85 percent of the population
supporting President George W.

Bush, Provo seems an unlikely place for any "revolutionary act"�
unless that act were simply telling the truth.

On the picturesque campus of the private Mormon university,
surrounded by snow-capped peaks, Jones teaches physics and carries
out research in the fields of metal-catalyzed fusion, solar energy
and archeometry, or the scientific study and analysis of artifacts.

As an archeometrist, Jones applies physics to explain events in the
past. Since last year when he became aware of the unanswered
questions of 9-11, he has focused his attention on the available
data and evidence.

The unexplained presence of molten metal at the World Trade Center
(WTC) puzzled Jones and he contacted this writer to confirm the
reports first published in American Free Press in 2002. These
reports came from two men involved in the removal of the rubble:
Peter Tully of Tully Construction of Flushing, N.Y., and Mark
Loizeaux of Controlled Demolition, Inc. of Phoenix, Md.

Tully told AFP that he had seen pools of "literally molten
steel" in the rubble.

Loizeaux confirmed this: "Yes, hot spots of molten steel in the
basements," he said, "at the bottom of the elevator shafts of the
main towers, down seven levels."

The molten steel was found "three, four, and five weeks later, when
the rubble was being removed," he said. He confirmed that molten
steel was also found at WTC 7, which mysteriously collapsed in the
late afternoon.

SERIOUS INVESTIGATION

Last November, Jones presented a draft which has since evolved into
a 52-page paper. His paper begins with an appeal for "a serious
investigation of the hypothesis that WTC 7 and the Twin Towers were
brought down . . .through the use of pre-positioned cutter-charges."

Jones presents evidence that an "aluminothermic process"
called "thermite" was used to weaken and sever the 47 massive core
columns that held up the towers. The official version fails to
explain how these critical columns failed. When ignited, thermite, a
combination of finely ground aluminum and iron oxide (rust), cuts
through steel like a "warm knife through butter," Jones said,
especially when mixed with 2 percent sulfur. The resulting
combination, called "thermate," lowers the melting point of steel.

Thermite was patented in Germany by Hans Goldschmidt in the late
1800s. Extremely high temperatures are produced when the aluminum
and iron oxide react. The reaction produces temperatures of more
than 2,500 degrees Celsius (4,500 degrees Fahrenheit) as the ferric
oxide is reduced to molten iron. Iron melts at 1,535 degrees
Celsius. The reaction causes the oxygen from the ferric oxide to
bond with the aluminum, producing aluminum oxide, molten iron, and
approximately 750 kilocalories per gram of thermite. The aluminum
oxide is a whitish smoke.

AFP recently attended a presentation of Jones's 9-11 research at
BYU. Jones began with footage of the unexplained collapse of Larry
Silverstein's 47-story building, WTC 7, at 5:25 p.m.

When Jones was interviewed by Tucker Carlson of MSNBC, the producers
refused to air this short but crucial video segment.

AFP observed thermite reactions in Jones's physics class. As a
colleague combined the powdered rust and aluminum in a mounted
ceramic flowerpot, Jones filmed the reaction. A paper wick with
magnesium ignited the sand-like mixture.

The reaction was intense, nearly explosive, and white flames and
pieces of metal flew out of the pot. From the bottom poured a white-
hot liquid�pure molten iron. After a few seconds a glowing yellow-
hot piece of iron was lifted with tongs and shown to the students.

Because thermite does not require air and can react underwater, it
may explain the persistent hot spots that were unaffected by a
continuous dousing from fire hoses. The white-hot molten iron and
slag can itself prolong and extend the heating and incendiary action.

"As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and
molten steel was still running," Leslie Robertson, structural
engineer responsible for the design of the WTC, told fellow
engineers.

Footage taken by WABC-TV of the burning South Tower at 9:53 a.m.,
immediately before the building collapsed, reveals large amounts of
white-hot molten metal, presumably iron, pouring from the 81st floor
of the east corner.

The amount of spilling molten metal suggests a pool of molten iron
was in that area of the building. While some have suggested that the
molten metal was aluminum, this is easily disproved by the fact that
molten aluminum appears silver-gray in daylight. The only possible
explanation is that the white-hot metal gushing from the South Tower
was molten iron and had been produced by a very large amount of
thermite.

The amount of molten metal seen falling would indicate that tons of
thermite had been used on that floor. From the video footage it
appears that several cubic yards of molten metal fell, which, if
iron, would have weighed over eight tons.

Jones's explosive paper is accessible on his web page
(physics.byu.edu) and will be published in a forthcoming book by
David Ray Griffin and Peter
Dale Scott. Reading Jones' paper on-line allows the reader to review
the photographic/video evidence.

"I consider the official FEMA, NIST, and 9-11 Commission reports,"
Jones writes, which claim "that fires plus impact damage alone
caused complete collapses of all three buildings."

He challenges the official explanation and provides evidence to
support the controlled-demolition hypothesis, which, he says "is
suggested by the available data, testable and falsifiable."

Jones notes that the hypothesis that the towers were demolished by
explosives "has not been analyzed in any of the reports funded by
the U.S. government."

Ignoring the evidence of the controlled-demolition hypothesis, the
FEMA-sponsored study of 2002 concluded, "The specifics of the fires
in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain
unknown."

Furthermore, the official report found that the fire-induced
collapse hypothesis "has only a low probability of occurrence."

The engineers concluded that "further research, investigation, and
analyses are needed to resolve this issue."

"That is precisely the point," Jones says, "further investigation
and analyses are indeed needed, including serious consideration of
the controlled-demolition hypothesis which is neglected in all of
the government reports."

The fact that the 9-11 Commission report does not even mention the
collapse of WTC 7 "is a striking omission of data highly relevant to
the question of what really happened on 9-11," he said.

FURTHER INVESTIGATION

Further investigation is what Jones is trying to get other
scientists to do. One would think that the mainstream media would be
interested in a highly respected physicist answering questions about
9-11, but that has not been the case. The controlled media and
supporters of the official version completely avoid Jones.