Discussion about 09/11/2001: [911TruthAction] Digest Number 1214

Saturday, April 08, 2006

[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1214

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: HOAX: "Bush Administration Media Collusion Memos Surface"
From: "S Miles Lewis" <yahoolists@elfis.net>
2. Update - 9/11 - 4/07/06
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
3. McBride forwardings -- Israel, Israel lobby, Pentagon etc.
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
4. A Day in the Life: 4/7/6
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
5. CAUGHT -- dancing Mossad agents filming at the WTC betray Israeli involvement in 9-11 false-flag mass-murder
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
6. why are you afraid to touch this conclusive deduction? : dancing Mossad agents filming at the WTC betray Israeli involvement in 9-11 false-flag mass-murder
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
7. Vote Sen.Harken Censure / Impeachment Poll+U.S. fed up illegal Aliens+
From: ranger116@webtv.net
8. Re: why are you afraid to touch this conclusive deduction? : dancing Mossad agents filming at the WTC betray Israeli involvement in 9-11 false-flag mass-murder
From: Scott Legere <sledger911@yahoo.com>
9. SUCCESS:One Immigration amnesty down. Stay tuned for what to expect
From: ranger116@webtv.net
10. Fla.Cong.Man's Bill-GiveUp 5th Amendment Right or Serve Year In Jail
From: ranger116@webtv.net
11. The Week The USA Went Down The 911 Rabbit Hole
From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net>
12. Re: why are you afraid to touch this conclusive deduction? : dancing Mossad agents filming at the WTC betray Israeli involvement in 9-11 false-flag mass-murder
From: "Dick Eastman" <de1949@nwinfo.net>
13. Justice for innocent Saddam Hussein -- Once upon a time
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
14. *****World Gov't as Global Organized Crime Syndicate *****
From: "kennendyone" <kennendyone@yahoo.com>
15. *****ILLUMINATI CONSPIRACY ARCHIVES***** EXCELLENT !
From: "kennendyone" <kennendyone@yahoo.com>
16. *****Les maîtres du monde***** French and Spanish. Excellent !
From: "kennendyone" <kennendyone@yahoo.com>
17. text of shareholder 911protest to Munich Re general meeting
From: John Leonard <jpleonard@verizon.net>
18. Study: 9/11 Escapees Have Health Problems
From: lowell dent <lowell_journalist@yahoo.com>
19. *****EXPOSE THE LIES NOW!*****
From: "kennendyone" <kennendyone@yahoo.com>
20. *****EXPOSE THE LIES NOW!*****
From: "kennendyone" <kennendyone@yahoo.com>
21. *****EXPOSE THE LIES NOW!*****
From: "kennendyone" <kennendyone@yahoo.com>
22. Fw: unemployment & inflation 2 or 3 times higher than official statistics -=- Greens back Malthus -=-London mayor Ken Livingstone attacked by Jews
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
23. Fw: On Mearsheimer & Walt - William PFAFF & John Lynch
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
24. *****EXPOSE THE LIES NOW!*****
From: "kennendyone" <kennendyone@yahoo.com>
25. Debt Slavery Report
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:07:41 -0000
From: "S Miles Lewis" <yahoolists@elfis.net>
Subject: Re: HOAX: "Bush Administration Media Collusion Memos Surface"

Sort-of A Hoax: Politician says Government will Torture "Loved Ones"
and Implant ID Chips in Population
<http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/frist_says_gov_will_torture_hoax.
htm>

FOX News | April 3, 2006
<http://www.fox-news.us/story/0,3566,190215,00.html>

COMMENT: This one even got us for a moment. Its a clever hoax, much
like the recent article about Bush trying to pass a law authorizing
him to have a third term. The tricky thing about these hoaxes is that
while in this particular instance these pieces of information are not
true, the Bush administration is in fact pushing to authorize
additional terms for the president and they are constantly pushing
torture and the use of RFID tags and implants. This is a pretty good
example of the sort of terrain we are on right now where the "real"
news is a pack of lies and only satire and "fake news" like the Daily
Show or entertainment news outlets seem to be able convey what is
really going on in the world.

RELATED:
Bush Third Term Article A Hoax
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/060406articlehoax.htm>

Bush Advisor Says President Has Legal Power to Torture Children
<http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/torture_bush_advisor_pres_legal_p
ower_torture_kids.htm>

Cheney's Rebuilding America's Defenses Whitepaper Calls for Race-
Specific Bioweapons
<http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/war_on_terrorism_is_bogus.htm>

WASHINGTON — In a disturbing turn of events for an administration
already plagued by sagging poll numbers and waning support for the
Iraq war, Friday's revelation that the Bush Administration issued
direct guidelines for programming to media outlets is troubling even
die-hard conservatives.

Late Friday a series of memos between senior Bush Administration
officials and management at Viacom, Inc. were leaked calling for the
media giant to focus on stories and programming choices
that "reinforce the Administration's positions" and to "ignore and/or
discredit points of view in opposition to the Bush Administration's
foreign policy objectives for the purposes of National Security."

Democrats and key civil rights figures were quick to comment on this
latest chapter of alleged government malfeasance. Democratic Senator
Barbara Boxer issued a statement calling for a congressional
inquiry. "This is it. This is a smoking gun. For years we've been
saying that liberal and moderate points of view aren't being
accurately reflected in the media and this proves our point. The Bush
Administration is clearly out of touch with the American people, and
Viacom should be ashamed."

Frist: Hell, if we want to plant I.D. chips in people and torture
their loved ones until they break, we will.

Other prominent figures were less forgiving. Rev. Al Sharpton called
the memos "treasonous" and "genocidal" and reiterated his desire for
impeachment proceedings to commence. "What we have here is a complete
disregard for the law, for what is morally correct and for the will
of the people. It's been no secret to anyone with a brain that the
majority of programming that we are exposed to by certain companies
is negative, but now it's out in the open. Look at BET. Look at the
exclusion of voices that accurately represent communities of color.
It's insidious."

Media companies have come under increasing fire as of late for their
portrayal of minorities and for inaccuracies in reporting stories of
interest to activist communities.

Most recently, estimates in the participation numbers of protesters
at anti-immigration legislation rallies were hotly disputed.

The media's alleged embracing of artists and stories depicting people
of color in a derogatory manner has become a hot-topic issue with
media watchdog groups and prominent entertainment commentators alike.

Davey D, a San Francisco-based music writer and hip-hop historian,
echoed the sentiment. "It's true, there is no balance in the media,
especially in hip-hop, where the negativity is most prevalent. All we
hear of on a commercial level is pimps, players and gangsters. That's
not all us. What about the revolutionary voices? What about artists
like The Coup? Like Public Enemy and Paris? They have a new album out
together that speaks on exactly what's going on right now, but they
don't get played on commercial radio. We've always argued that our
voices are systematically suppressed. Well, here's the proof."

Not all agree, however. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist took a more
defensive stance. "Of course it raises some concerns, but we can't
let this issue be blown out of proportion. Of course there have to be
media guidelines. Hell, if we want to plant I.D. chips in people and
torture their loved ones until they break, we will. I know the idea
of governmental control over what the media can or cannot say during
wartime may be an uncomfortable topic for some to digest, but it is a
necessary fact of life when our enemies are trying to kill us."

Debra L. Lee, president and CEO of Viacom's Black Entertainment
Television, agrees. "Even though our moniker is BET, our allegiance
lies with our government and its directives, not the African-American
community. Anyone who believes that we will endorse messages in
contrast to our government's wishes, or that express dissent, is
sorely mistaken."

Some entertainment industry insiders are becoming increasingly
concerned, however. One longtime employee of Interscope Records, a
leading record label and home to rap superstars 50 Cent and Eminem,
stated recently under the condition of anonymity that the
company "has a unique relationship with Viacom" and that
it "deliberately focuses on marketing campaigns that depict black
people in the worst possible light." When told of Rev. Sharpton's
likening of the practice to 'genocide' on African-Americans, he
agreed wholeheartedly, but expressed fears of reprisal should he
publicly address his concerns.

"It's beyond national security. That was the reason given at first,
but now they just tell us what we have to endorse, and what we have
to avoid." He added, "these kids eat it up. They don't know the
difference between what's real and what's fake."

An Interscope company spokesperson was unavailable for comment.

"We will get to the bottom of this," Sharpton continued, "and heads
will roll. Now that their practices of propaganda are common
knowledge even Americans with limited political awareness will demand
change."

<http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/frist_says_gov_will_torture_hoax.
htm>

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "S Miles Lewis"
<yahoolists@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Benjamin. I'd heard several reports of April Fool's
day "Memo
> Hoaxes" but I got suckered in with that one. And who can blame me
and
> others considering, as GuerrillaFunk folks said:
>
> "... Yes, it's satire, but why did so many of you find it so easy
to
> believe? Maybe because the whole thing feels real - especially when
> you consider the negative images and messages that corporations
> continue to endorse and promote as entertainment. If Fox really
> reported the truth the news would look more like this because
record
> labels and video channels influence millions..."
>
> Not to mention the below recent revelations as well as other news
in
> past years of the Bush admin paying for pundits to pass off their
> propaganda as actual news:
>
> Education Dept. paid commentator to promote law
> <http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=204&t=204>
>
> Maggie Gallagher - Second Columnist Got Money from Bush
Administration
> <http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=205&t=205>
>
> Senators to Introduce 'Stop Government Propaganda Act'
> <http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=206&t=206>
>
> Third Columnist paid by Bush Administration
> <http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=207&t=206>
>
> USA Today - Report: PR spending doubled under Bush
> <http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=208&t=206>
>
> How Team Bush Controls the Message - Stage the Event
> <http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=210&t=210>
>
> Uncovering the History of Operation Mockingbird
> <http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=219&t=219>
>
> Probe of Armstrong Williams Widens
> <http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=238&t=238>
>
> Tommy 'Martial Law' Franks is a Paid Bush Admin Patriot
> <http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=23&i=174&t=174>
>
> U.S. Military Covertly Pays to Run Stories in Iraqi Press
> <http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=245&t=245>
>
> Pentagon rolls out stealth PR / Foreign Media PsyOp
> <http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum/read.php?f=32&i=247&t=247>
>
>
> 77 TV stations aired 'fake news reports'
> 04/05/2006 @ 10:57 pm / Filed by Ron Brynaert
>
> A study by a group that monitors the media reveals that, over a ten
> month span, 77 television stations from all across the nation aired
> video news releases without informing their viewers even once that
> the reports were actually sponsored content, RAW STORY has found.
>
> One "news report" that aired on three stations relied on a video
news
> release (VNR) produced by a PR firm on behalf of General Motors
which
> was even apparently based on a "false claim."
>
> Center for Media and Democracy's Fake TV News: Widespread and
> Undisclosed is "a multimedia report on television newsrooms' use of
> material provided by PR firms on behalf of paying clients,"
> containing video footage of the 36 video news releases (VNRs) cited
> in the report, plus a map and spreadsheet of the stations cited.
>
> General Motors, Intel, Pfizer and Capital One are among the
companies
> who produced VNRs with the help of three PR firms, and "[m]ore than
> one-third of the time, stations aired the pre-packaged VNR in its
> entirety."
>
> An Oklahoma City FOX station owned by Sinclair is pegged as
> the "report's top repeat offender," airing five VNRs in full on its
> news broadcasts, with "the publicist's original narration each
time."
>
> Three stations "not only aired entire VNRs without disclosure, but
> had local anchors and reporters read directly from the script
> prepared by the broadcast PR firm."
>
> News broadcasts based on a General Motors VNR stand out in the
report
> as a striking example of "fake news," not just because they were
left
> largely unchanged when aired on stations in Louisiana and
> Pennsylvania.
>
> "GM, who introduced the first manufacturer web site in 1996, has
> recently lowered prices, in some cases by thousands of dollars, on
> all of their models as a direct result of the customers' ability to
> comparison shop on the Internet," Medialink's Kate
Brookes "reported"
> in all three broadcasts.
>
> But the Center for Media and Democracy blasts GM's "historical
claim"
> as "fake."
>
> "A simple dated search for "automotive web site" in the Nexis news
> database revealed a press release from August 1995 in which
> Volkswagen heralded the launch of their web portal," the report
> states. "It wasn't until February 1996 that General Motors
announced
> gm.com in their own press release."
>
> A comparison between the General Motors VNR and one of the news
> broadcasts can be seen at this link.
>
> Last year the New York Times published an article called "Under
Bush,
> a new age of prepackaged TV news" - written by David Barstow and
> Robin Stein - which reported on the stealthy use of VNRs created by
> government agencies that crept into network news broadcasts.
>
> The Times revealed that even though Radio-Television News Directors
> Association's "code of ethics" specifies to "clearly disclose the
> origin of information and label all material provided by
outsiders,"
> the Federal Communications Commission has "never disciplined a
> station for showing government-made news segments without
disclosing
> their origin."
>
> Last June, Chris Baker at the Washington Times reported that the
> Radio-Television News Directors Association "submitted a 13-page
> statement that said few TV stations air VNRs, and those that do
> almost always identify the source" to the Federal Communications
> Commission. The statement drew from an "informal survey of 100
> members" because, as the president of the Association told the
> Washington Times, "concrete data" was "hard to come by."
>
> An article in Thursday's Times by Barstow (New York Times
registered
> link) indicates that the Center "presented its findings yesterday
to
> F.C.C. officials, including Jonathan S. Adelstein, a commissioner
who
> has criticized video news releases."
>
> Impressed by the "scope of what they found," Adelstein told the
Times
> that it was a "disgrace to American journalism," and proof
> of "potentially major violations" of F.C.C. rules.
>
>
<http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/77_TV_stations_aired_fake_news_0405
> .html>
>

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:02:54 -0000
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
Subject: Update - 9/11 - 4/07/06

9/11 News : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#911

· 9/11 REVISITED / WERE EXPLOSIVES USED AND WAS THERE A CONSPIRACY ? -
It's becoming more and more obvious that something is deceptively
evasive in the government's version of 9/11 and that automatically
leads me to the master of deception ~ our very own Darth Vader, Dick
Cheney.

· The Week The USA Went Down The 911 Rabbit Hole - We always knew that
one good news event exposing the official deception of 9/11 could be
the catalyst to unravel the Big Lie. We didn't know there would be
several news events in one week! Now we see what it looks like when
the truth breaks loose.

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:04:04 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: McBride forwardings -- Israel, Israel lobby, Pentagon etc.

No rational American wants anything bad to happen to Israelis or Palestinians or Americans.. But they have happened, are happening, will continue to happen. Israel's actions often involve violations of human rights, international law, and UN resolutions, undertaken at the expense of a helpless, brutalized Palestine, thus denying Israel peace, security, and international support. Worse, they also lead to violent reactions, which are often recognized under the UN Charter as legitimate resistance to occupation.

From: Sean McBride

April 7, 2006

http://thinkprogress.org/the-architects-where-are-they-now

[Zero accountability for a $2 trillion dollar disaster. The American government is completely broken.]

2
Reckless Rites: Purim and the Legacy of Jewish Violence

Reckless Rites: Purim and the Legacy of Jewish Violence
By Elliott Horowitz
Date issued: 2006
ISBN 0691124914
Elliott Horowitz, born in New York City in 1953, is (2003) an Associate Professor in the Department of Jewish History at Bar-Ilan University. He is coeditor of the Jewish Quarterly Review.

Abstract: Historical accounts of Jewish violence--particularly against Christians--have long been explosive material. Some historians have distorted these records for anti-Semitic purposes. Others have discounted, dismissed, or simply ignored the evidence, often for apologetic purposes.

In Reckless Rites, Elliott Horowitz takes a new and forthright look at both the history of Jewish violence since late antiquity and the ways in which generations of historians have grappled with that history. In the process, he has written the most wide-ranging book on Jewish violence in any language, and the first to fully acknowledge and address the actual anti-Christian practices that became part of the playful, theatrical violence of the Jewish festival of Purim. He has also examined the different ways in which the book of Esther, upon which the festival is based, was used by Jews and Christians over the centuries--whether as an ancient mirror of modern tribulations or as the scriptural basis for anti-Semitic claims regarding the bloodthirstiness of the Jews.

Reckless Rites reassesses the historical interpretation of Jewish violence--from the alleged massacre of thousands of Christians in seventh-century Jerusalem to later medieval attacks on Christian symbols such as the crucifix, transgressions that were often committed in full knowledge that their likely consequence would be death.

.. .

Table of Contents:
Illustrations xi
Acknowledgments xiii
Introduction 1

PART ONE: BIBLICAL LEGACIES 21

CHAPTER ONE: The Book of Esther For and Against 23
CHAPTER TWO: A Pair of Queens 46
CHAPTER THREE: Mordecai's Reckless Refusal 63
CHAPTER FOUR: The Eternal Haman 81
CHAPTER FIVE: Amalek The Memory of Violence and the Violence of Memory 107

PART TWO: JEWS LIVING DANGEROUSLY 147

CHAPTER SIX: "The Fascination of the Abomination" Jews (and Jewish Historians) Confront the Cross 149
CHAPTER SEVEN: Mild Men or Wild Men? Historical Reflections on Jews and Violence 187
CHAPTER EIGHT: Ancient Jewish Violence and Modern Scholarship 213
CHAPTER NINE: Purim, Carnival, and Violence 248
CHAPTER TEN: Local Purims and the Invention of Tradition 279

Abbreviations 317
Bibliography 319
Index 325

Of Course There Is an Israel Lobby: Ambassador Edward Peck

April 6, 2006
Edward Peck

The London Review of Books recently published an article, by Professors John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen Walt of Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, on the Israel lobby's negative impact on U.S. domestic and international interests. The expected tsunami of rabid responses condemned the report, vilified its authors, and denied there is such a lobby-validating both the lobby's existence and aggressive, pervasive presence and obliging Harvard to remove its name.

All democracies have lobbies. Shrill insistence that no groups promote Israel is ludicrous. Opinions differ on the long-term costs and benefits for both nations, but the lobby's views of Israel's interests have become the basis of U.S. Middle East policies. That this influence largely results from the efforts of people determined to exercise their democratic prerogatives is not open to question-or to challenge.

The dangerous, unacceptable result of that lobbying, however, is the stifling of public debate. Knowing the fiercely negative reactions to accurate, detailed reporting of controversies surrounding Israel, the media fail to cover Israel's violations of every principle for which the United States-and Israel-loudly proclaim they stand. There is only rare, skimpy coverage of the ongoing Israeli mass punishments, house demolitions, illegal settlements, assassinations, settler brutality, curfews and beatings. On the other hand, the blind Palestinian rage generated by decades of receiving humiliating, savage suppression in their homeland is reported in lurid, bloody detail.

The lobby's effectiveness at control was illustrated two years ago. Both government and media condemned China when it arrested, and accused of espionage, a Chinese citizen-Green Card holder visiting from the U.S. Neither the U.S. government nor media has ever protested-has never even mentioned-Israel's years-long multiple arrests and protracted detentions of American citizens, without charge or trial. In September 2000, CNN interviewed four Americans who had been tortured, the only report on this compelling story, and the network has since been forced to refuse selling recordings of that news segment, "Americans Mistreated in Israeli Jails." America would have been fully informed had any other country committed these acts.

The lobby also recently blocked the New York staging of a play, following its successful London run, based on the words of peace activist Rachel Corrie. She was crushed by an armored Caterpillar bulldozer while attempting to prevent demolition of a Palestinian home in Gaza. The driver failed to notice her blaze orange vest, yellow hard hat and bullhorn.

Israeli actions also generate anti-Semitism, the very label the lobby uses to bludgeon into silence anyone in America who questions relations with Israel and its expansionist policies. This effectively blocks broad public understanding that Israel's interests and America's, sometimes in agreement, are sometimes sharply divergent. Of greater and entirely justifiable concern, the lobby has succeeded in pressuring successive administrations into actions and statements blatantly contrary to announced American principles and the advancement of U.S. objectives.

As the only nation unstintingly providing Israel with vast amounts of money, arms and unhesitating political protection, the United States is perceived as the key facilitator of 40 years of occupation and oppression. The massive, growing political, economic and human costs of continuing that close relationship merit public, knowledge, discussion and debate. The Israel lobby prevents it, as Mearsheimer and Walt have carefully documented.

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Ambassador Edward Peck is an Advisory Board Member for the Center on Peace and Liberty at the Independent Institute, was Deputy Director of the Cabinet Task Force on Terrorism in the Reagan White House and former Chief of Mission in Iraq, and was in Jerusalem and the West bank as an international observer of the presidential elections in 2005, and in Gaza for the Legislative Council elections in 2006.

http://independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1700

Why is FBI still doing business with Israeli ChoicePoint?
The same firm that recently was prevented from purchasing an American computer services company.
===

Senator questions FBI on ChoicePoint contract
Leahy wants to know why DOJ's still doing business with breached firm

News Story by Grant Gross

PRIL 05, 2006 (IDG NEWS SERVICE) - A top Democrat in the U.S. Senate questioned Wednesday why the U.S. Department of Justice continues to do business with data broker ChoicePoint Inc. a year after the company announced a data breach potentially affecting 145,000 U.S. residents.

Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) blasted the DOJ and the FBI division for a recent five-year, $12 million contract for ChoicePoint to provide investigative analysis software to the FBI. In February 2005, ChoicePoint announced a data breach after criminals set up fake businesses that purchased private information from the data broker.

"What in heaven's name are we doing allowing someone as careless as ChoicePoint to be in control of our data?" Leahy said at a subcommittee hearing on the DOJ's 2007 budget. "I consider them the poster child for lax security protection."

U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales defended the contract, announced Monday. The ChoicePoint contract represented the best value for the FBI, and it covers software and technology, not data services, he said.

Security and privacy issues were "taken into account in connection with this contract," Gonzales added. "Obviously, there were mistakes made by ChoicePoint, and they suffered the consequences for that."

ChoicePoint, in a statement, also defended the contract, saying it was for technology not data services. "This technology and similar products we offer the law enforcement community in this country and around the world help safeguard [Leahy's] family as well as ours," the statement said. "It is indisputable that ChoicePoint's technology and yes, its data, aid in stopping crime and capturing criminals."

Leahy's questions came a day after the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) issued a report saying the DoJ and other federal agencies contract with some data resellers that do not comply with federal rules governing the collection of data. Data brokers often do not restrict their collection of personal data, as required in federal fair information practices law, and often do not inform the individuals whose data they are collecting, GAO said. DOJ and three other agencies spent about $30 million with data resellers in fiscal year 2005, the report said.

Leahy said he was concerned about the GAO report. "The Justice Department ... often doesn't even follow federal rules -- doesn't follow its own laws -- in protecting Americans' privacy," Leahy said. "You see my concern."

Gonzales said he had not reviewed the GAO report, but if the DOJ was breaking privacy rules, it would fix the problem. "I share your concern," he told Leahy. "There should be only one standard, that is, what the law requires."

Also at the hearing, Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), chairman of the justice subcommittee of the Senate Appropriations Committee, questioned the FBI's investments in new technology following its decision in March 2005 to abandon a case-management project after spending $170 million over four years.

Then in March, the FBI announced it had contracted with Lockheed Martin Corp. to build a $425 million case management and information-sharing system, a replacement for the doomed Trilogy Virtual Case File System.

"This new technology is critically important, but I remain concerned that the FBI does not possess the necessary project management expertise, nor do I feel that the FBI has applied lessons learned from past mistakes," said Shelby.

FBI Director Robert Mueller said the new contract with Lockheed Martin will face performance audits from investigators within and outside the FBI. Each of the four phases of the project will be reviewed, and the contract is structured so that the FBI can back out after any of the phases, he said. "We have learned from the mistakes of the past, and we are intent on bringing this home," he said.

http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/story/0,10801,110248,00.html

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:24:08 -0500
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: A Day in the Life: 4/7/6

GOVERNMENT OF THE USA IN EXILE
Free Americans Reaching
Out to Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free

Via <prez@usa-exile.org>

April 7, 2006

From: Henri the Celt <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Date: April 6, 2006 11:45:28 PM EST
To: AAAHenri <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Subject: Condi begins seriously to stumble...

"Amid this internal crisis of credibility, the secretary of state,
Condoleezza Rice, has washed her hands of her (own) department. (!) Her
management skills are minimal. Now she has left coercing people to fill
the PRTs to her counsellor, Philip Zelikow, who, by doing the dirty
work, is trying to keep her reputation clean." (Zelikow is, of course,
Jewish...)
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Comment: As we opined a few weeks ago, the linchpin of the Zionist
putsch is Condoleezza Rice. When she fails the whole affair is kaput...
The Tethered Goat Strategy
By Sidney Blumenthal
The Guardian UK

Thursday 06 April 2006
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1747911,00.html
Amid an internal crisis of credibility, Condoleezza Rice has washed her
hands of her own department.

Since the Iraqi elections in January, US foreign service officers
at the Baghdad embassy have been writing a steady stream of disturbing
cables describing drastically worsening conditions. Violence from
incipient communal civil war is rapidly rising. Last month there were
eight times as many assassinations committed by Shia militias as
terrorist murders by Sunni insurgents. The insurgency, according to the
reports, also continues to mutate. Meanwhile, President Bush's strategy
of training Iraqi police and army to take over from coalition forces -
"when they stand up, we'll stand down" - is perversely and portentously
accelerating the strife. State department officials in the field are
reporting that Shia militias use training as cover to infiltrate key
positions. Thus the strategy to create institutions of order and
security is fuelling civil war.

Rather than being received as invaluable intelligence, the messages
are discarded or, worse, considered signs of disloyalty. Rejecting the
facts on the ground apparently requires blaming the messengers. So far,
two top attaches at the embassy have been reassigned elsewhere for
producing factual reports that are too upsetting.

The Bush administration's preferred response to increasing
disintegration is to act as if it has a strategy that is succeeding.
"More delusion as a solution in the absence of a solution," said a
senior state department official. Under the pretence that Iraq is being
pacified, the military is partially withdrawing from hostile towns in
the countryside and parts of Baghdad. By reducing the number of
soldiers, the administration can claim its policy is working going into
the midterm elections. But the jobs the military doesn't want to
perform are being sloughed off on state department "provisional
reconstruction teams" (PRTs) led by foreign service officers. The
rationale is that they will win Iraqi hearts-and-minds by organising
civil functions.

The Pentagon has informed the state department it will not provide
security for these officials and that mercenaries should be hired for
protection instead. Internal state department documents listing the PRT
jobs, dated March 30, reveal that the vast majority of them remain
unfilled by volunteers. So the professionals are being forced to take
the assignments in which "they can't do what they are being asked to
do", as a senior department official told me.

Foreign service officers, as a rule, are self-abnegating in serving
any administration. The state department's Intelligence and Research
Bureau was correct in its scepticism before the war about Saddam
Hussein's possession of WMDs, but was ignored. The department was
correct in its assessment in its 17-volume Future of Iraq project about
the immense effort required for reconstruction after the war, but it
was disregarded. Now its reports from Iraq are correct, but their
authors are being punished. Foreign service officers are to be sent out
like tethered goats to the killing fields. When these misbegotten
projects inevitably fail, the department will be blamed. Passive
resistance to these assignments reflects anticipation of impending
disaster, including the likely murder of diplomats.

Amid this internal crisis of credibility, the secretary of state,
Condoleezza Rice, has washed her hands of her department. Her
management skills are minimal. Now she has left coercing people to fill
the PRTs to her counsellor, Philip Zelikow, who, by doing the dirty
work, is trying to keep her reputation clean.

While the state department was racked last week by collapsing
morale, Rice travelled to England to visit the constituency of Jack
Straw. She declared that though the Bush administration had committed
"tactical errors, thousands of them" in Iraq, it is right on the
strategy. Then she and Straw took a magic carpet to Baghdad to try to
overthrow Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jafaari in favour of a more pliable
character.

"Did you ever imagine in your wildest dreams that after Vietnam
we'd be doing this again?" one top state department official remarked
to another last week. Inside the department, people wonder about the
next "strategy" after the hearts-and-minds gambit of sending diplomats
unprotected to secure victory turns into a squalid fiasco. "Helicopters
on the roof?" asked an official.

--------

Sidney Blumenthal, a former senior adviser to President Clinton,
is the author of The Clinton Wars.

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Information Campaign Against Hugo Chavez Goes
Nu-ku-lar

A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION
by Leigh Saavedra

Venezuela runs the voting machines that gave us Team Bush. So says
Michael Sneed, Sun-Times columnist.

For absolute, frackin', crying-out-loud's sake...

The article was a little heady for me, so I skimmed, was choking in
hysteria by the time I got to: "Per the Miami Herald: 'The greater
threat to our nation's security comes not from Dubai and its
pro-Western government, but from Venezuela, where software engineers
with links to the leftist anti-American regime of Hugo Chavez are
programming electronic voting machines that will soon power U.S.
elections'."

I'm not kidding. The attached URL is proof. While the Miami Herald has
rarely been considered the Diogenes of modern journalism, I'm not sure
we've seen anything this extreme recently. With a faint heart and damp
brow I fear that the disinformation war has suddenly taken on the
speed of light, requiring us to probably put on our verbal combat
boots and forget sleeping for awhile.

Wonder why the crazies are suddenly wanting to talk about voting
machines. You'd think they wouldn't dare allow the subject to be
mentioned in polite company, where an innocent might mention tests
performed on the infamous Diebolds. But then, the world gets madder by
the moment. After all, this is the week when Tom DeLay announces that
he won't run for office again because he wants to protect his
supporters from Barbra Steisand (heard on Air America). Muscleman
time?

The most frightening thing of all is that there are people out there,
a few million, who will BELIEVE that this proves what the Bush people
have been trying to tell us, that Venezuela has designs on taking over
the United States.

Brrrrr.

A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION

Leigh Saavedra is a lifelong activist and writer, former high school
teacher and gifted education specialist, currently living in Austin,
Texas. For the first years of the Bush dynasty, she wrote under the
name "Lisa Walsh Thomas."

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From: "Graham Jukes" <grahamjukes@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: April 7, 2006 3:50:23 AM EST
Subject: The US, NATO & The Netherlands train for the invasion of
Venezuela

BLAIR'S ACHIEVEMENTS?
2m murdered in the Middle East in the past 10 years, pending threat of
nuclear holoocaust in Iran and a 3rd World War, taxes at home at all
time highs, National Health crisis, Pensions crisis, Elderly care
crisis, overflowing prisons, erasure of civil liberties, contempt for
democracy and peoples intelligence; lying, deceit and corruption at
unimaginable levels and total failure with Global warming. And all
controlled by an evil, fake, stupid, pathetic Media Machine, which
continually regurgitates half-truths in a constant bid to manipulate
popular-opinion. Meanwhile, Corporate profits are obscene, the
Financial Elite reward themselves like vermin and swine, as they are
and our moral fabric is being desecrated by those with no human
characteristic whatsoever. I think Britain's history and heritage would
classify all that as "Mega- Treason!" Yes ?No? GJ (UK)

----- Original Message -----
From: FPF
To: ifj@ifj.org
Cc: The New York Times Direct
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: The US, NATO & The Netherlands train for the invasion
ofVenezuela

NATO &
The Netherlands train for the invasion of Venezuela

IT IS THE PNAC'S HENCHMEN, NATO, THEIR CIA AND IT'S DUTCH COLLABORATING
ALLIES WHO POSE A THREAT TO VENEZUELA, AND ANY COUNTRY'S AUTONOMY.

Intro by Henk Ruyssenaars

FPF - Amsterdam - April 7, 2006 - In the article below - which as far
as I can check it, is correct - Wayne Madsen reports on the further
criminal behavior by the US PNAC mafia, forcing more collaborators to
support their global genocides. Even if everything on every front and
level has shown to be a huge pack of lies, and a malignant part of the
'Project for a New American Century (PNAC)*

THE WHOLE FORCED US/NATO 'COOPERATION' IS TOTALLY ILLEGAL AND CRIMINAL.

There is absolutely NO legal ground nor base to be found for PNAC/NATO
'cooperation' (and especially not the PNAC's inside job on 9/11 -
killing 3000 people in the WTC catastrophe) - for Washington's Cabal
and their Pentagon, to refer to Article 5 of the NATO Treaty and
require support.* On the contrary: NATO people should have arrested and
punished all the serial PNAC killers and their quislings, especially
those in the media: what they do, and have done - like 9/11 - is not
human, but are permanent crimes against humanity.*

THIS WAS HOWEVER DONE - AND ACCEPTED BY ALL PNAC COLLABORATORS IN
EUROPE - AS A 'JUSTIFICATION' TO COMMIT NATO TO THE US PNAC WAR CRIMES.
INHUMAN AND INJUST!

And to make the not informed taxpayers in the NATO countries pay for
these horrible crimes against humanity, which all normal people abhor.
Without even informing them how much of their wages permanently and
already for ages has been stolen. - [http://tinyurl.com/adjxt]

U.S., Dutch, and British forces are in Jamaica training English
Caribbean security forces as part of "Operations Tradewinds."

"Across the Atlantic in the Caribbean, in cooperation with NATO, the
Bush administration is conducting a series of military exercises as a
warning to Venezuela and other leftist governments in Latin America."

WMR - April 6, 2006 - Time for NATO to go the way of the Warsaw Pact,
CENTO, and SEATO. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), which
the Bush administration hopes to turn into a worldwide military bloc
that would include Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and South Korea, is a
Cold War relic that should be discarded upon the trash heap of history,
joining other outmoded "defense pacts." NATO is increasingly being used
by the neo-cons to intimidate populist governments in Latin America and
human rights activists in Africa.

In a show of force off Africa's oil-rich west coast, some 7000 U.S.,
NATO, and Cape Verdean troops will conduct a military exercise, code
named "Live X," in June on the Cape Verde islands of Sao Vicente, Sal,
and Santo Antao, NATO's first in Africa.

Across the Atlantic in the Caribbean, in cooperation with NATO, the
Bush administration is conducting a series of military exercises as a
warning to Venezuela and other leftist governments in Latin America. In
a replay of U.S. naval maneuvers held during the time the Bush
administration tried to unseat Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez in an
April 2002 abortive coup, the U.S. Navy is deploying a task force led
by the USS George Washington to waters off the Venezuelan coast in
"Operation Partnership of the Americas."

U.S., DUTCH, AND BRITISH FORCES ARE IN JAMAICA TRAINING ENGLISH
CARIBBEAN SECURITY FORCES AS PART OF "OPERATIONS TRADEWINDS."

The Bush administration is now using its neo-con allies in the Dutch
government to accuse Chavez of having designs on the Netherlands
Antilles. Echoing the Bush neo-cons, Dutch Defense Minister Henk Kamp
called Chavez a "fanatic populist" who wants to invade Aruba, Bonaire,
and Curacao (the so-called "ABC islands"). Venezuelan political and
military leaders have called the Dutch charges ridiculous and point out
that the US Southern Command has been issuing policy documents clearly
stating that populist movements spreading from Venezuela, Uruguay, and
Bolivia to Peru, Ecuador, Nicaragua, and Mexico are threats to national
security. The survival of multinational corporate vampires is now
equated to U.S. national security by the neo-con owned and operated
Pentagon.

THE PENTAGON MAINTAINS "FORWARD OPERATING LOCATION" MILITARY AIRBASES
IN ARUBA AND CURACAO.

If anything, it is Washington and its Dutch allies who pose a threat to
Netherlands Antilles autonomy.

The neo-con Dutch government has, through Round Table Conferences
(RTCs) with the Antilles and Aruba, attempted to convince the islands
to cede judicial autonomy to the central Dutch government. Using the
non-ABC islands of Saba, St. Eustatius, and Saint Maarten as wedges,
Washington and The Hague, have caused problems for the ongoing efforts
of the Netherlands Antilles to devolve autonomy to the individual
islands and largely scrap the federal system.

However, while the Bush administration and its Dutch lackeys charge
Chavez with having territorial designs on the ABC islands, the
military-industrial oilgarchy in Washington and Houston may be
fomenting a separatist movement in western Venezuela's oil-rich Zulia
state. Chavez has accused Zulia's right-wing governor, Manuel Rosales,
of working with the United States and American oil interests to promote
independence for the state.

A recently-formed right-wing and pro-business group called "Own Road"
is pushing for an independence referendum for the state. There is
evidence that the group has received support from intelligence elements
operating from within the U.S. embassy in Caracas. In addition,
U.S.-backed mercenaries and Florida-based missionaries have attacked
the villages of pro-Chavez indigenous tribes in Zulia.

Bush administration would have Venezuela's oil-rich Zulia state declare
independence as a U.S. client state. Other Latin American nations with
populist governments can expect similar Bush/neocon-supported
secessionist movements. Already, there are U.S.-supported secessionist
stirrings in the hydrocarbon-rich Chaco region of Bolivia aimed against
President Evo Morales, a Chavez ally.

The parallels between Own Road ("Rumbo Propio") and southwestern
Iran's Ahwaz independence movement, which is backed British and U.S.
intelligence, are striking.

Both Zulia and Ahwaz are oil-rich regions. U.S. intelligence now backs
independence movements in both regions designed to pry oil-rich
resources away from anti-Bush central governments. Conversely, in
regions where independence movements threaten U.S. oil interests, the
Bush administration provides the central governments with military
hardware and special counter-insurgency training.

This is the case with oil-rich Aceh in northwestern Sumatra in
Indonesia*, the Angolan enclave of Cabinda, and the Delta region of
Nigeria.*

[enditem] - Url.: http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

* 'Royal' Dutch SHELL - killing & drilling for profit - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/rwyks

* Dutch War criminals further infest Indonesia - Not 'Prime' but Crime
Minister Balkenende with the Dutch PNAC multinationals in Indonesia -
Url.: http://tinyurl.com/n2drb

* IT CAN BE DONE! - Former Crime Minister - SHELL kommissar and traitor
Wim Kok - in a court hearing for some of his and other Dutch war
criminals crimes - Humanitarian Bombers in Court - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/662pp

* US CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL CONFIRMING THE CREATION OF A WORLD GOVERNMENT
- "He asked if there was an international conspiracy to overthrow our
government: The answer is ''Yes" - Short video - Url.:
http://100777.com/media/RonPaul-NewWorldOrder.wmv

* THE 'WHY' OF GLOBAL RESISTANCE - HOW IT IS DONE BY THE PNAC'S CIA
JACKALS & THE WORLD BANK's SERIAL KILLER WOLFOWITZ - Confessions of an
economic 'hit man'. World Bank insider Perkins explains: "Jackals' are
C.I.A. - sanctioned people that come in and try to foment a coup or
revolution. If it doesn't work, they perform assassinations, or try
to." - They steal billions for the World Bank, IMF, USAID, UNDP, AID
etc. - Perkins web site - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/jvhbu - It's your
life too: Must watch Video Url.:
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8171.htm

* 'PROJECT FOR A NUCLEAR AMERICAN CENTURY': NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST for you
too - Depleted Uranium for Dummies - Url.: http://www.notinkansas.us

* THIS IS A VERY INFORMATIVE ARTICLE - AN EYE-OPENER - After working
around the globe for more than forty years, I can not find anything
wrong with this eloquent description of the state of affairs: ''They
seem so harmless, so non-menacing, and yet they are the root of so much
of the present evil that mankind is facing today. Just six simple words
that carry the weight of the world upon them, six simple words that act
as the engine for so much turmoil and unrest.'' - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/gj4x5

* 6 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED? - ANOTHER HOLOCAUST, THIS IS ONE OF
MANY BY THE PNAC's CIA: John Stockwell, former CIA Station Chief in
Angola in 1976, working for then Director of the CIA, George Bush.
''How 6 million People Were killed in CIA secret wars against Third
World countries'' - Before 1986! - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/gpcg

* "Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we
Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets
and lynched." - George Bush Senior speaking in an interview with
Sarah McClendon in December 1992.

* HOW THE BUSH FAMILY MADE ITS FORTUNE FROM THE NAZIS - THE DUTCH
CONNECTION - by John Loftus, a former U.S. Department of Justice Nazi
War Crimes prosecutor, the President of the Florida Holocaust Museum
and the highly respected author of numerous books on the CIA-Nazi
connection including The Belarus Secret and The Secret War Against the
Jews, both of which have extensive material on the
Bush-Rockefeller-Nazi connection. - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/omczx -

* Global Predators - ŒFrauds-R-Us¹ - The Bush Family Saga - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/elarx

* The 9/11 drama was the 'trigger' used by the PNAC Group, killing
Americans to further their inhuman goals: Anybody who after seeing this
video - '9/11 revisited' - still believes the version from the 'PNAC
pack' - the Washington cabal - is beyond all professional help - Url.:
http://tinyurl.com/r5sx4

* The Mad Cow Morning News is one of the absolutely best 9/11 sites on
Internet - by Daniel Hopsicker - Url.:
http://www.madcowprod.com/01042004.html

* FOX: Video 49 min. - The example how viewers are brainwashed and
'outfoxed' - Url.: http://tinyurl.com/b2zzl

* All the more reason to read the Fightin' Cock Flyer - Url.:
http://fightincockflyer.blogspot.com/

* THE ONLY SOLUTION? - Help all the troops - of whatever nationality -
to come back from abroad! - AND WITH ALL THEIR WEAPONS, WHICH WE ARE
FORCED TO PAY FOR BY TAXES - [http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm] -
We need them badly at home in many countries to fight with us against
our so called 'governments' and their malignant managers - Url.:
http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/

The Dutch author this far has lived and worked abroad for more than 4
decades for international media - when they still knew what honest
journalism was - as an independent foreign correspondent. Of which 10
years - also during Gulf War I - in the 'Arab World' and the Middle
East. Seeing worldwide that every bullet and every bomb breeds more
terrorism !

* It's very unlikely, but if you indeed would prefer to unsubscribe
from the FPF-list: just send an email in return with the word
'unsubscribe'.

FOREIGN PRESS FOUNDATION
http://forpressfound.blogspot.com/
Editor: Henk Ruyssenaars
http://tinyurl.com/amn3q
The Netherlands
fpf@chello.nl

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From: "paul illich" <paul_illich@hotmail.com>
Date: April 7, 2006 3:35:57 AM EST
To: bluegreenearth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bluegreenearth] fwd: Bayview Hunters Point Sets April 11
deadline for PG&E Shutdown

Bayview Newspaper
December 23, 2005

Bayview Hunters Point Sets April 11 deadline for PG&E Shutdown
By Marie Harrison

From the youngest to the oldest, they sang and cried, “If you won’t do
it
for us, then for our children.” A 17-year-old young man stepped to the
center of the circle, telling the crowd gathered in front of PG&E’s
offices,
“I have a younger sister and brother. They both have asthma, and I am
not
going to sit by and do nothing to stop them from suffering.”

He wanted the vice president of PG&E to know that the young folks are
in the
fight now and that they stand strong behind their mothers and
Greenaction to
shut down the heavily polluting Hunters Point power plant, the oldest in
California. He said, “I can get to emotional at times, but this plant
would
make anyone emotional.”

Bayview Hunters Point mothers, kids and teenagers were joined by
Greenaction
and other allies in a protest on Dec. 15 in front of PG&E’s
headquarters in
downtown San Francisco to demand that PG&E close the Hunters Point power
plant by the end of March at the absolute latest.

Tired of years of broken promises to close the outdated, polluting and
unnecessary power plant and tired of repeated delays, community members
issued an ultimatum to PG&E and the state agency in charge of the power
grid, the California Independent Systems Operator (ISO). The community
and
Greenaction announced that either the plant is shut down by April 10,
2006,
or, on April 11, the plant will be the focus of a nonviolent civil
disobedience action to close the plant.

PG&E stated in a September 2005 meeting of the ISO that the plant will
be
ready to shut down by mid-March 2006. Unfortunately, PG&E has once
again now
raised the possibility of yet another delay. In a Nov. 22 letter to the
ISO,
PG&E’s vice president stated the projected closure date to be sometime
in
“the first half of 2006.” The closure of the plant has been delayed
repeatedly since at least 1998.

“How long must we put up with this kind of disrespect?” asked Tessie
Ester,
Bayview Hunters Point resident and community leader who lives right
next to
PG&E. “This is why we know for a fact that we must be the ones to put
this
monster away, before it takes all of our lives. If the government won’t,
then the people will shut down PG&E!”

“Our community expected the shutdown in 1998, but since then numerous
delays
have been made,” said Maurice Campbell of the Community First Coalition.
“Tons of particulate matter has been released into our environment by
this
plant, and it has inflicted harm on a community which was already
suffering
with high rates of asthma. There should be no slipping on the date for
the
shutdown. The people have suffered enough.”

Dozens of people signed pledge cards to attend a nonviolent action at
the
power plant on April 11 at noon if the plant is still open. Word is
spreading throughout Bayview Hunters Point, and supporters are being
asked
to join the action as well.

This is starting to sound much like back in the day when Black folks and
white folks, brown folks and all folks, young and old, stood toe to toe
against the racist old Southern regime, singing that we shall not be
moved.
So from me to you, if you are not yet active in support of this fight,
we
are now asking you to come, be there on April 11. Show love to our
community, and let’s clean up Bayview Hunters Point of its biggest
goliath.
With your help, we can finally put this philistine champion away for
good.

The rally in front of PG&E was sponsored by All Hallows Garden Residents
Association, Bayview Hunters Point Mothers Committee, Bay View
newspaper,
Bayview Samoan Community, Community First Coalition, Environmental
Justice
Air Quality Coalition, Greenaction for Health and Environmental Justice,
Huntersview Tenants Association, San Francisco Green Party and PODER

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From: Henri the Celt <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Date: April 7, 2006 6:18:02 AM EST
To: AAAHenri <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Subject: AT&T Sends ALL Internet Traffic To NSA Says EFF

AT&T Sends ALL Internet Traffic to NSA, Says EFF

Source: LinuxElectrons.com
4-6-6 http://www.rense.com/general70/traf.htm

SAN FRANCISCO -- The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) on Wednesday
filed the legal briefs and evidence supporting its motion for a
preliminary injunction in its class-action lawsuit against AT&T. After
asking EFF to hold back the documents so that it could review them, the
Department of Justice consented to EFF's filing them under seal - a
well-established procedure that prohibits public access and permits
only the judge and the litigants to see the evidence. While not a party
to the case, the government was concerned that even this procedure
would not provide sufficient security and has represented to the Court
that it is "presently considering whether and, if so, how it will
participate in this case."

"The evidence that we are filing supports our claim that AT&T is
diverting Internet traffic into the hands of the NSA wholesale, in
violation of federal wiretapping laws and the Fourth Amendment," said
EFF Staff Attorney Kevin Bankston. "More than just threatening
individuals' privacy, AT&T's apparent choice to give the government
secret, direct access to millions of ordinary Americans' Internet
communications is a threat to the Constitution itself. We are asking
the Court to put a stop to it now."

EFF's evidence regarding AT&T's dragnet surveillance of its networks
includes a declaration by Mark Klein, a retired AT&T telecommunications
technician, and several internal AT&T documents. This evidence was
bolstered and explained by the expert opinion of J. Scott Marcus, who
served as Senior Technical Advisor for Internet Technology to the
Federal Communications Commission from July 2001 until July 2005.

The internal AT&T documents and portions of the supporting declarations
have been submitted to the Court under a tentative seal, a procedure
that allows AT&T five court days to explain to the Court why the
information should be kept from the public.

"The public deserves to know about AT&T's illegal program," said EFF
Legal Director Cindy Cohn. "In an abundance of caution, we are
providing AT&T with an opportunity to explain itself before this
material goes on the public docket, but we believe that justice will
ultimately require full disclosure."

The NSA program came to light in December, when the New York Times
reported that the President had authorized the agency to intercept
telephone and Internet communications inside the United States without
the authorization of any court. Over the ensuing weeks, it became clear
that the NSA program has been intercepting and analyzing millions of
Americans' communications, with the help of the country's largest phone
and Internet companies, including AT&T.

"Mark Klein is a true American hero," said EFF Staff Attorney Kurt
Opsahl. "He has bravely come forward with information critical for
proving AT&T's involvement with the government's invasive surveillance
program."

In the lawsuit, EFF is representing the class of all AT&T residential
customers nationwide. Working with EFF in the lawsuit are the law firms
Traber & Voorhees, Lerach Coughlin Stoia Geller Rudman & Robbins LLP
and the Law Office of Richard R.

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 09:33:24 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: CAUGHT -- dancing Mossad agents filming at the WTC betray Israeli involvement in 9-11 false-flag mass-murder

Mossad operatives dancing for joy at 9-11 WTC would never have been so happy unless they already knew there were no Jews in those crumbling towers.

911 & the dancin' israelis eg:
http://www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.htm

Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:20:48 -0800 (PST) From: William Purcell
<bhimarama@yahoo.com>

IT IS EVERYONE'S duty TO VIEW THIS FILM!

www.loosechange911.com

www.Physics911.net

www.ReOpen911.org

www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.html

http://www.st911.org/

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

THE DANCINGISRAELIS -

- then that right there is PROOF that it was MOSSAD who was BEHIND the whole
thing ! --------------- (excerpt from :
http://www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.htm) THE DANCING ISRAELIS
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>> But bin Laden himself strongly denied any role in the 9-11 attacks, and he
suggested the attacks were orchestrated by Zionists. The BBC published bin
Laden's statement of denial in which he said:

"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I
have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government
within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators
of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present
century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret
government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American
system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not
the United States." (25)

You never heard that quote on your nightly newscast in the USA did you? <<

On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
was asked what the attack would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply
was: "It's very good...Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate
sympathy (for Israel)"

The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

As the world watched in disbelief and asked the question...

...Mossad operatives were seen dancing with joy.

A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.
The men set up cameras by the Hudson River and trained them on the twin towers.
(1)

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming
"middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts
of joy and mockery. (2)

"They were like happy, you know . They didn't look shocked to me" said a
witness. (3)

[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World
Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in
front of the wreckage. (4)

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial
impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in
Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives
in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)

"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was
going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (7)

One anonymous phone call to the authorities actually led them to close down all
of New York's bridges and tunnels. The mystery caller told the 9-1-1 dispatcher
that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van headed for
the Holland Tunnel. Here's the transcript from NBC News: Dispatcher: Jersey City
police. Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like
Palestinians and going around a building. Caller: There's a minivan heading
toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and
he has those sheikh uniform. Dispatcher: He has what? Caller: He's dressed like
an Arab. (8)

(*Writer's note: Why would this mystery caller specifically say that these
"Arabs" were Palestinians? How would he know that?Palestinians usually dress in
western style clothes, not "sheikh uniforms")

Based on that phone call, police then issued a "Be-on-the-Lookout" alert for a
white mini-van heading for the city's bridges and tunnels from New Jersey. When
a van fitting that exact description was stopped just before crossing into New
York, the suspicious "middle-easterners" were apprehended. Imagine the surprise
of the police officers when these terror suspects turned out to be Israelis!
According to ABC's 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was
stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:

"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The
Palestinians are your problem."(9)

Why did he feel that Palestinians were a problem for the NYPD? The police and
FBI field agents became very suspicious when they found maps of the city with
certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers
supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police
also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and
that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives. (10)

The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg
flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently
celebratory gesture. (11)

The Jerusalem Post later reported that a white van with a bomb was stopped as it
approached the George Washington Bridge, but the ethnicity of the suspects was
not revealed. Here's what the Jerusalem Post reported on September 12, 2001:
American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington
Bridge. The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the
bridge. Authorities suspect the terrorists intended to blow up the main crossing
between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported. (12)

TCM Breaking News reported that the van was laden down with tonnes of explosives
(13). What's really intriguing is that ABC's 20/20 (14), the New York Post (15),
and the New Jersey Bergen Record (16) all clearly and unambiguously reported
that a white van with Israelis was intercepted on a ramp near Route 3, which
leads directly to the Lincoln Tunnel.

But the Jerusalem Post, Israeli National News (Arutz Sheva) (17), and Yediot
America (18), all reported, just as clearly and unambiguously, that a white van
with Israelis was stopped on a ramp leading to the George Washington Bridge,
which is several miles north of the Lincoln Tunnel.

It appears as if there may actually have been two white vans involved, one
stopped on each crossing. This would not only explain the conflicting reports as
to the actual location of the arrests, but would also explain how so many
credible eye-witnesses all saw celebrating "middle-easterners" in a white van in
so many different locations. It also explains why the New York Post and Steve
Gordon (lawyer for the 5 Israelis) originally described how three Israelis were
arrested but later increased the total to five.

Perhaps one van was meant to drop off a bomb while the other was meant to pick
up the first set of drivers while re-crossing back into New Jersey? If a van was
to be used as a parked time-bomb on the GW Bridge, then certainly the drivers
would need to have a "get-away van" to pick them up and escape. And notice how
the van (or vans) stayed away from the third major crossing -the Holland Tunnel-
which was where the police had originally been directed to by that
anti-Palestinian 9-1-1 "mystery caller". A classic misdirection play.

From there, the story gets becomes even more suspicious. The Israelis worked for
a Weehawken moving company known as Urban Moving Systems. An American employee
of Urban Moving Systems told the The Record of New Jersey that a majority of his
co-workers were Israelis and they were joking about the attacks. The employee,
who declined to give his name said: "I was in tears. These guys were joking and
that bothered me. These guys were like, "Now America knows what we go through."
(19)

A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System's Israeli owner, Dominick
Suter, dropped his business and fled the country for Israel. He was in such a
hurry to flee America that some of Urban Moving System's customers were left
with their furniture stranded in storage facilities (20). It was later confirmed
that the five detained Israelis were in fact Mossad agents (21). They were held
in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. Some of the movers had
been kept in solitary confinement for 40 days. (22)

[S]everal of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli
talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were
laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are
coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document
the event." (23)

How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11? It doesn't take
Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents -
here's the most logical scenario:

1. The Israeli "movers" cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful
accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.

2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report
Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.

3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli
bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop
off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices.

4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALL bridges
and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils
the Israelis' misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day
torture.

5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs
for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The
Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now
claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same
dragnet as many other Arabs.

6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department "higher-ups" are able to
gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly.

Osama bin Laden was immediately blamed for the 9-11 attacks even though he had
no record of doing anything on this scale. Immediately after the Flight 11 hit
WTC 1 CIA Director George Tenet said "You know, this has bin Laden's
fingerprints all over it." (24)

The compliant mainstream media completely ignored the Israeli connection.
Immediately following the 9-11 attacks the media was filled with stories linking
the attacks to bin Laden. TV talking-heads, "experts", and scribblers of every
stripe spoon-fed a gullible American public a steady diet of the most outrageous
propaganda imaginable. We were told that the reason bin Laden attacked the USA
was because he hates our "freedom" and "democracy". The Muslims were "medieval"
and they wanted to destroy us because they envied our wealth, were still bitter
about the Crusades, and were offended by Britney Spears shaking her tits and ass
all over the place! But bin Laden strongly denied any role in the 9-11 attacks,
and he suggested the attacks were orchestrated by Zionists. The BBC published
bin Laden's statement of denial in which he said:

You never heard that quote on your nightly newscast did you? [A] number of
intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden's
capabilities. "This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he's running this
operation?" one C.I.A. official asked. "It's so huge. He couldn't have done it
alone." A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other
documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States a major
foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. (26)

To date, the only shred of "evidence" to be uncovered against bin Laden is a
barely audible fuzzy amateur video that the Pentagon just happened to find
"lying around" in Afghanistan. How very convenient, and how very fake. (27)
There is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda
"terrorist network" to these acts of terror, but there is a mountain of
evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that Zionists have been
very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.

One last thing - at 09:40 a.m. on 9-11 it was reported that the Democratic Front
for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attacks (28).
This claim was immediately denied by the DFLP leader Qais abu Leila who said it
had always opposed "terror attacks on civilian targets, especially outside the
occupied territories." (29) 9/11 CNN streamed RealVideo item mentioning a
Palestinian claim of responsibility

Why would a Palestinian organisation comprising of less than 500 people (30)
make the suicidal move of immediately claiming responsibility for the 9-11
attacks? Sharon and the other Israeli leaders aspire to fulfill what the goals
of the political Zionist movement have been since its origin a century ago: to
turn all of historic Palestine into an exclusively Jewish state. A central tenet
of the Zionist ideology is expressed in the racist slogan, "A land without
people for a people without a land." (31)

The implication of Palestinians in the 9-11 attacks would have handed Zionists a
golden opportunity to achieve the above because all Palestinians would have been
labelled terrorists.

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about
evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." US official
quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war" Motto of the Mossad

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:11:41 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: why are you afraid to touch this conclusive deduction? : dancing Mossad agents filming at the WTC betray Israeli involvement in 9-11 false-flag mass-murder

From: "pollyphoney" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
Sent: Friday, April 7, 2006
Subject: [Conspiracy-Theory] Re: CAUGHT -- dancing Mossad agents filming at the WTC betray Israeli involvement in 9-11 false-flag mass-murder

""We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our
problems. The Palestinians are your problem."(9)
"

That is the lie many Jews want to sell us including our little friend
on this forum, Joni. I say Jews because on the BBC forum the jackals
are from different countries but act as one ferocious pack. They are
rabidly racist and in so many different ways a completely repugnant
bunch.

--- In Conspiracy-Theory@yahoogroups.com, "Dick Eastman"
<olfriend@...> wrote:
>
> Mossad operatives dancing for joy at 9-11 WTC would never have been
so happy unless they already knew there were no Jews in those
crumbling towers.
>
Jewhuggers -- those who insist against all evidence that there were Jews in the WTC on 9-11

Zionist Jewry does not mind the deaths of non-Zionist Jews,
especially those who marry the goyim. But even one death
of a Zionist Israeli or U.S.-operating Zionist Jew would be too much.
Check any list of 9-11 victims at the WTC (or the Pentagon)
and you will find that the demographics of the list do not
match up with New York City or with High Finance and
International Trade -- the Jews just were not there.

Certainly the dancing Jews were not disguised as Arabs --
they could not risk being caught and identified -- they
simply did not believe they were being watched, they did
not suspect that they would be caught. Their joy was
at a difficult big mission accomplished -- they were indifferent to
the over-2000 gentile deaths.

> 911 & the dancin' israelis eg:
> http://www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.htm
>
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:20:48 -0800 (PST) From: William Purcell
> <bhimarama@...>
>
> IT IS EVERYONE'S duty TO VIEW THIS FILM!
>
> www.loosechange911.com
>
> www.Physics911.net
>
> www.ReOpen911.org
>
> www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.html
>
> http://www.st911.org/
>
> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/
>
> THE DANCINGISRAELIS -
>
> - then that right there is PROOF that it was MOSSAD who was BEHIND
the whole
> thing ! --------------- (excerpt from :
> http://www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.htm) THE
DANCING ISRAELIS
>

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:39:41 -0400
From: ranger116@webtv.net
Subject: Vote Sen.Harken Censure / Impeachment Poll+U.S. fed up illegal Aliens+

Vote Sen.Harken Censure / Impeachment Poll+U.S. fed up illegal Aliens+

Sen. Harken Petition to Censure/Impeach Bush / Cheney
Address:http://www.tomharkin.com/petition/default.asp

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Poll: Bush, GOP hit new lows - Politics - MSNBC.com 32%
Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12199878/

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White House Does Not Dispute Leak Allegations
Politics News Article | Reuters.com
Address:http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyid=2006-04-07T152027Z_01_WAT005235_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-LEAK.xml&rpc=22

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Testimony shows the President can no longer be trusted says Howard Dean

Libby: Bush authorized leak on Iraq - Politics - MSNBC.com
Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12187153/

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Americans have been brainwashed for the last 40 years under affirmative
action and political correct speech that people from all categories must
be treated equally, But that forced education was intended to apply to
other US Citizens, Not illegal aliens who happen to fall into some of
those same ethnicitys, Which by now most Americans especially white
Americans are afraid to even point out when these minorities are
actually doing something wrong.

But now with 81% of Americans against illegal immigration it is OK to
Just Say NO! To illegal immigration even though the people look like the
ones the govt. has taught you over the last 40 years deserve to get in
line ahead of You over and over and over !

WorldNetDaily: Zogby poll: Americans fed up with illegal aliens
Address:http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44154

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Frosty Wooldridge -- What if Paul Revere's Horse Broke A Leg ?

The New Paul Revere Ride Across America against illegal immigration !

Address:http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty142.htm

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:12:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Legere <sledger911@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: why are you afraid to touch this conclusive deduction? : dancing Mossad agents filming at the WTC betray Israeli involvement in 9-11 false-flag mass-murder

Dick

I try my best to let others walk their path in their current incarnation. To judge another is to not truly and fully understand the message of all the masters...Christ to Buddha...ALL OF THEM.

So when I say this, know I'm not judging, ... more of an observation. If their were no Jews or Christians..or Muslims or Buddhists...Just people, How would you be able to distinguish between you and those Jews you seem very upset about?

If you were to wonder why so many of us are upset with the current state of organized religion on Earth, it's pretty simple. All I observe from the majority of Fundamentalists Christians is this country is FEAR. The exact opposite of what Christ came here to teach you. Do you understand that most religions teach separation? so they actually CREATE what they fear. Christ knew that were are all truly connected. At the source! Incidentally Quantum Physics is showing us the Science to explain this wonderful connectivity between me and you and those "Jews" The Planet is actually coming TOGETHER...finally! Thanks to the Internet we can now stop fearing all that is Different. Can you Imagine the Internet being around during the cold war? Were all that fear that was shoved down our throats by control of information, would have simply dissolved away.

Well my friend welcome to the Reformation of Government AND Religion! They are both taking place at the same time. Do you think that the Da Vinci Code coming out as a movie at this exact moment in time during 9/11 truth is a coincidence? There's a lot more going on here than meets the eye. The more you open your eyes, The more you learn, the more you learn the less you fear. the less you fear the more your heart opens.

And as we all know just as there is a HUGE difference between Americans and The Government of America... The Same can be said for Israel

Best Regards
Scott Ledger
P.S. None of the above is at all meant to take away from your passion for change..OR...all that you have accomplished as a patriot. Thank you for thousands of hours of hard work.

Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:
From: "pollyphoney" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
Sent: Friday, April 7, 2006
Subject: [Conspiracy-Theory] Re: CAUGHT -- dancing Mossad agents filming at the WTC betray Israeli involvement in 9-11 false-flag mass-murder

""We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our
problems. The Palestinians are your problem."(9)
"

That is the lie many Jews want to sell us including our little friend
on this forum, Joni. I say Jews because on the BBC forum the jackals
are from different countries but act as one ferocious pack. They are
rabidly racist and in so many different ways a completely repugnant
bunch.

--- In Conspiracy-Theory@yahoogroups.com, "Dick Eastman"
<olfriend@...> wrote:
>
> Mossad operatives dancing for joy at 9-11 WTC would never have been
so happy unless they already knew there were no Jews in those
crumbling towers.
>
Jewhuggers -- those who insist against all evidence that there were Jews in the WTC on 9-11

Zionist Jewry does not mind the deaths of non-Zionist Jews,
especially those who marry the goyim. But even one death
of a Zionist Israeli or U.S.-operating Zionist Jew would be too much.
Check any list of 9-11 victims at the WTC (or the Pentagon)
and you will find that the demographics of the list do not
match up with New York City or with High Finance and
International Trade -- the Jews just were not there.

Certainly the dancing Jews were not disguised as Arabs --
they could not risk being caught and identified -- they
simply did not believe they were being watched, they did
not suspect that they would be caught. Their joy was
at a difficult big mission accomplished -- they were indifferent to
the over-2000 gentile deaths.

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:33:59 -0400
From: ranger116@webtv.net
Subject: SUCCESS:One Immigration amnesty down. Stay tuned for what to expect

SUCCESS:One Immigration amnesty down. Stay tuned for what to expect

SUCCESS: One amnesty down. Stay tuned for what to expect neHUGE

TACTICAL VICTORY: CLOTURE VOTE ON HAGEL-MARTINEZ DEFEATED
The Senate has just voted 38-60 against invoking cloture on the
Hagel-Martinez amnesty bill.

No. 1: CONGRATULATIONS! You helped defeat the Hagel-Martinez amnesty for
10 million illegal aliens.

I will send you the vote tally as soon as it is available so that you
can call and let your Senators know what you think of their votes.

Also, I will email you again shortly to let you know the result of a
procedural vote on the Frist bill that is now occuring, but please take
a minute to revel in this tremendous victory.
Twenty-four hours ago it looked as if Sen. Hagel would easily get the 60
votes he needed for a cloture vote, which then would have allowed a
final vote requiring only 51 votes. The Hagel-Martinez amnesty looked
like a SURE THING
But, as Roy reported to you in the wee hours of the monring,
negotiations among the grand amnesty coalition of Frist (R-TN), Kennedy
(D-MA), Hagel (R-NE) and Reid (D-NV) fell apart. The main reason for
this dramatic breakdown in what appeared to be a solid pro-amnesty
alliance, is that Senators are under such seige from their constituents.
They know they cannot afford to go on record as supporting a blanket
amnesty.

No. 2: Continue to check our VOTE DAY page for the latest developments
in the Battle in the Senate.
www.NumbersUSA.com
We will also post the vote tally there so you can see how your Senators
voted on the Hagel-Martinez amnesty.

No. 4: Send any faxes still posted on your Action Buffet corkboard.
www.NumbersUSA.com/actionbuffet
THANK YOU You have stuck with us through a tough battle. The war is not
over, and we may face another battle later today or tomorrow, but we
would not be in this place right now without your help.
-- ANNE
This may be a good time for you to make sure that you've let us know all
of the areas you are interested in. In order to further customize the
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  From:   Anne Manetas NumbersUSA Date:   FRIDAY 7APR06
    10:20 a.m. EDT
SUCCESS: One amnesty down. Stay tuned for what to expect next HUGE
TACTICAL VICTORY: CLOTURE VOTE ON HAGEL-MARTINEZ DEFEATED
The Senate has just voted 38-60 against invoking cloture on the
Hagel-Martinez amnesty bill.
No. 1: CONGRATULATIONS! You helped defeat the Hagel-Martinez amnesty
for 10 million illegal aliens.
I will send you the vote tally as soon as it is available so that you
can call and let your Senators know what you think of their votes.
Also, I will email you again shortly to let you know the result of a
procedural vote on the Frist bill that is now occuring, but please take
a minute to revel in this tremendous victory.
Twenty-four hours ago it looked as if Sen. Hagel would easily get the 60
votes he needed for a cloture vote, which then would have allowed a
final vote requiring only 51 votes. The Hagel-Martinez amnesty looked
like a SURE THING
But, as Roy reported to you in the wee hours of the monring,
negotiations among the grand amnesty coalition of Frist (R-TN), Kennedy
(D-MA), Hagel (R-NE) and Reid (D-NV) fell apart. The main reason for
this dramatic breakdown in what appeared to be a solid pro-amnesty
alliance, is that Senators are under such seige from their constituents.
They know they cannot afford to go on record as supporting a blanket
amnesty.
No. 2: Continue to check our VOTE DAY page for the latest developments
in the Battle in the Senate.
www.NumbersUSA.com
We will also post the vote tally there so you can see how your Senators
voted on the Hagel-Martinez amnesty.
No. 4: Send any faxes still posted on your Action Buffet corkboard.
www.NumbersUSA.com/actionbuffet
THANK YOU You have stuck with us through a tough battle. The war is not
over, and we may face another battle later today or tomorrow, but we
would not be in this place right now without your help.
-- ANNE
This may be a good time for you to make sure that you've let us know all
of the areas you are interested in. In order to further customize the
type of alerts you receive click here
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 16:48:16 -0400
From: ranger116@webtv.net
Subject: Fla.Cong.Man's Bill-GiveUp 5th Amendment Right or Serve Year In Jail

Fla.Cong.Man's Bill-GiveUp 5th Amendment Right or Serve Year In Jail

Florida State Congressman Democratic
Representative Ari Porth

Wants to take away U. S. Citizens Fifth Amendment
Right - Not to Testify Against Themselves by not taking a breathalyzer,
blood or urine test, By giving a year in jail to anyone who refuses.

But Rep. Ari Porth himself has No problem
violating the Law Stated in The Florida State Constitution that states
very clearly that No person shall hold Two State of Florida Offices at
one time !
He is a State elected official as a State
Representative and being a lawyer and a member of the Bar makes him an
officer of the Court another State office even if he was just a defence
lawyer working for himself, But this double / Triple dipper is not just
a private lawyer, But a Prosecuting attorney employed by the Broward
County Court System.

Send Rep. Ari Porth an e-mail here telling him what you think of his
trying to take away Your Fifth Amendment Right to " Not Testify Against
Yourself "

Write Rep. Ari Abraham Porth Below

Address:http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/S
ections/Representatives/emailrepresentative.aspx?MemberId=4352&SessionId=42

Call him here at his Tallahassee Capital

Office at 1-954-346-2810 and His local District office at 1-850-488-2124

(Please forward this everywhere)

If this bill passes here in Florida - It will spread Nation Wide very
quickly

(See Miami Herald Story Below)

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The 5th Amendment to the US Constitution ARTICLE FIVE
The 5th Amendment

Address:http://zpub.com/un/5th.html

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous
crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in
cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in
actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be
subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or
limb;

" nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against
himself "
,
nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of
law, nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just
compensation.

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Miami Herald
LEGISLATURE 2006 | DRUNKEN DRIVING
MiamiHerald.com | 04/05/2006 | Blowing off DUI test may lead to jail
Address:http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/states/florida/counties/broward_county/14264926.htm
Blowing off DUI test may lead to jail
A Coral Springs lawmaker (State Representative and a Broward County
Prosecuting Attorney) is pushing a bill he hopes will end easy outs of
DUI convictions by forcing offenders to submit to a breath, blood or
urine test or spend a year in jail.

BY EVAN S. BENN
ebenn@MiamiHerald.com
Read the DUI bill

TALLAHASSEE - It's the not-so-secret
way to avoid a DUI record: Refuse to submit to a breath test. You'll
lose your license for a year but won't face criminal charges.
          The state Legislature looks poised to
change that with a bill that would make it a crime -- punishable by one
year in jail -- for drunken-driving suspects to refuse a breath, blood
or urine test.
          ''The word is around: If you're drinking,
refuse to blow,'' state Rep. Irv Slosberg, a Boca Raton Democrat, said
Tuesday at the House Justice Council, a group of lawmakers that deals
with criminal justice issues.
      ``The problem is too many people are refusing to blow,
and more and more DUI offenders are on the streets.´´
The bill, which has been met with unanimous approval from four House
committees, is sponsored by Rep. Ari Porth, a Coral Springs Democrat and
Broward prosecutor.
          ''My colleagues at home care so much about
this because they're in the courtrooms every day fighting to make sure
that drunk drivers are off the roads,'' Porth said. ``It´s
tremendously important to them and important to our communities. It´s
a good public-safety measure.´´
        Under existing law, drivers who refuse to submit
to a DUI test on their first offense can lose their license for a year,
but they aren't charged criminally in the absence of breath test
results. Only drivers who refuse a test on a subsequent stop face
misdemeanor charges and jail time.
        Nancy Daniels, public defender for Leon,
Franklin, Gadsden, Jefferson, Liberty and Wakulla counties, said the
penalties in place now for refusing an alcohol test are sufficient.
        ''There already is a substantial penalty for
refusing a breath test, and that is losing your license for a year,''
Daniels said.
          ``This would mean go to jail for a year
simply for not wishing to give the breath test. We understand the intent
of the bill, but these penalties are very harsh.´´
Nonetheless, Porth said a companion bill also has good momentum in the
Senate, where its main sponsor is New Port Ritchie Republican Mike
Fasano.
        A second part of the bill would shield
manufacturers of breath-test machines from having to hand over to DUI
defense attorneys software and other technology about the devices.
          Defense attorneys across the state have
asked judges to force prosecutors to give them source-code information
about the Intoxilyzer 5000 breath-test device.
Source code is computer language that instructs the machine how to
calculate alcohol results.
          The Intoxilyzer maker says such
information is a trade secret, and officials won't give it up to
prosecutors.
Judges in Sarasota, Manatee, Seminole and Orange counties have ruled
that prosecutors must turn over the source code. As a result, dozens of
breath-test readings have been thrown out because prosecutors said they
did not have access to the source-code information.

''It's a fishing expedition that defense
attorneys are going on to keep these cases from being prosecuted,''
Porth said.
``The source code has nothing to do with the accuracy or precision
of the tests.´´
Despite the lack of opposition the bill has
faced from committee members, some say it would create a hardship for
drivers and a possible constitutional issue.
Howard Simon, executive director of American Civil Liberties Union's
Florida chapter, said barring an attorney from obtaining source-code
data would interfere with the right to a fair trial.

''This sounds like asking a defense lawyer
to practice law with one hand tied behind their back,'' Simon said.
``How is somebody going to fulfill their legal and ethical
responsibility to represent their client when they are being denied
necessary information about how the [breath-test] technology
operates?´´

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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 13:57:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: The Week The USA Went Down The 911 Rabbit Hole

The Week The USA Went Down The 911 Rabbit Hole
Wednesday, 5 April 2006, 11:23 am
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The Week The Nation Went Down The 9-11 Rabbit Hole

March 28, 2006
by Les Jamieson
From:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060328141014712

We always knew that one good news event exposing the
official deception of 9/11 could be the catalyst to
unravel the Big Lie. We didn't know there would be
several news events in one week! Now we see what it
looks like when the truth breaks loose.

Last Monday an article titled "The Ground Zero Grassy
Knoll" by Mark Jacobson came out in New York Magazine.
The 8,000 word article with photos gets to core
questions still unanswered after 4 ½ years, and
delineates the four different possible viewpoints
regarding the attacks. We get to view 9/11 in the
context of other unsolved conspiracies and their
cover-ups. One of the points most incriminating to the
government is that NIST's lead investigator stated
that he couldn't explain why Building 7 collapsed.
This gets personal. Mark, the author, saw Building 7
freefall himself.

Right on the heels of this ground-breaking article,
actor Charlie Sheen was interviewed by radio host and
documentary producer, Alex Jones. Alex is known for
his investigative work into false flag terror and New
World Order machinations. Sheen expressed his grave
doubts about the official explanation of 9/11 and gave
detailed reasons why. He also witnessed part of that
tragic day and is speaking from first hand experience.
This was no ordinary person speaking out. His
celebrity status coupled with what's considered a
"far-fetched conspiracist" viewpoint made this a very
risky move and required great courage and exhibited
great passion for truth. [You can thank Charlie Sheen
via mail c/o Stan Rosenfield & Associates, 2029
Century Park East - Suite 1190, Los Angeles, CA 90067.
A new website has just been registered, where citizens
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This explosive interview immediately caused a
whirlwind of coverage on the net, with articles on
Rawstory.com, Propagandamatrix.com, 911blogger.com,
Prisonplanet.com and 911truth.org, to name a few.
Other print media such as the New York Post and Boston
Herald carried stories. To top it off, CNN's "Showbiz
Tonight" carried three consecutive nights of
programming that included clips of the Sheen
interview, interviews with Alex Jones, a segment with
researcher Mike Berger and film producer Nicole
Rittenmeyer, a short clip of comments by Webster
Tarpley, and an interview with journalist Mark
Jacobson. Mark was also interviewed on Air America
Radio's Rachel Maddow show Friday morning. Sheen has
now further addressed the press now, with a firm
admonition to "Challenge Me on the Facts."

Speaking of Air America, today host Randi Rhodes,
known for her hard hitting investigative commentary
mixed with raw humor and occasional shock-jock antics,
took a call from a listener who saw the CNN coverage
with the Berger/Rittenmeyer interview. Turns out Randi
saw it, too. She said that was the best 10 minute news
segment she's ever seen, other than some segments on
Bill Maher and John Stewart's show and was amazed she
would have to see this coverage on what is essentially
a Hollywood gossip show. Randi went on to exclaim it
was bizarre that Building 7 fell without being hit by
a plane and how unbelievable it was that Hani Hanjour
could have piloted that flight maneuver into the
Pentagon.

CNN posted a poll on Thursday, asking whether people
agreed with Charlie Sheen's view that the government
is covering up what really happened on 9/11. Final
results of the poll --with over 52,600 votes cast, 84%
agreed with Sheen.

And today, 3/28/06, CNN announced for tonight's show,
"Exclusive: Actor Ed Asner takes on the controversy
over Charlie Sheen's comments about a 9/11 conspiracy
theory. ("Showbiz Tonight" airs live on Headline News
at 7 p.m. and replays at 11 p.m.Eastern). He will be
joined by Sander Hicks, Green Party Candidate for US
Senate, to discuss 9/11 and the whistleblowers who
tried to stop it.

Please take a moment to thank Showbiz Tonight for
their ongoing coverage of 9/11 Truth. You can reach
host A. J. Hammer at this weblink, or leave a general
comment for CNN, supporting Hammer at this link. And
join New Yorkers in thanking CNN tomorrow, 3/29/06, at
a "Demonstration of Gratitude""Demonstration of
Gratitude" at Time-Warner Center.)

So the dam is breaking, the tide is turning, and the
wave is cresting, truth lovers. Now we wait for more
of our fellow citizens to wake up to the fact that
people like Paul Craig Roberts, Howard Zinn, Steven
Jones, David Ray Griffin, Peter Dale Scott, Daniel
Ellsberg, and many more of their stature, have
challenged the official account of 9/11. Maybe more
family members and firemen will have the courage to
come forward to reveal truth that will shed light on
the deepest darkness imaginable to a nation raised to
believe in goodness and liberty. It's a good bet that
citizens will finally become aware of some of the 115
omissions and distortions detailed in David Ray
Griffin's analysis of the fake investigation known as
the 9/11 Commission Report. Maybe citizens will pay
attention to the revelations of the Moussaoui trial
and Able Danger proceedings which show that the
scapegoats set up to look like hijackers were Oswalds
-- in other words, patsies or decoys. Now maybe people
who hate the war, hate the assault on civil liberties,
have had all they can stand with the undermining of
the middle class, are shell-shocked with the trillions
of debt caused by the war and terror economy, and are
appalled with criminal negligence in the wake of
Katrina, will all have an epiphany and realize 9/11
was the New Pearl Harbor called for by the
Machiavellian mob who have overtaken the highest
levels of government. Maybe a sizable majority will
ask Congress why they have been complicit by allowing
this criminal administration to function after
committing acts of treason and crimes against
humanity.

We have to be sensitive to the fact that as many of
our fellow citizens slide into the rabbit hole where
we've been they'll have difficulty grappling with the
notion that our own government was responsible for the
massacre of 3,000 of our own people, (albeit they
represent 84 different countries). There's no
shielding the naïve from the fact that hundreds of
thousands of our soldiers were exposed to Agent Orange
during the Viet Nam War. Hundreds of thousands more
were exposed to Depleted Uranium during Gulf War I,
the Balkan War, and the current invasion of Iraq.
Again, hundreds of thousands of our citizens who live
and work in lower Manhattan were told the toxic air
was safe to breathe in the aftermath of the 9/11
attacks. We have to objectively conclude that if our
Joint Chiefs of Staff were willing to sacrifice our
own citizens back in 1962 in the plot known as
Operation Northwoods as a pretext to invade Cuba, our
current government would sacrifice 3,000 of our people
to justify their agenda to solidify superpower status
as outlined by The Project For A New American
Century's policy paper, Rebuilding America's Defenses,
through an aggressive military strategy. This could
only be supported out by an enraged, traumatized,
fear-ridden public.

This week we've come a bit closer to viewing 9/11 as a
gateway to understanding a pattern of events occurring
over a span of many decades, designed to consolidate
power and wealth in the hands of a tiny, ruthless
ruling syndicate. We can look through this gateway and
see the forces of empire, the source of the disease
afflicting the planet for so long. This pathological
power network has operated in extreme secrecy and has
committed acts so heinous that the population would
never suspect them. Let's fact it, Hitler himself
said, the bigger the lie, the easier it is to fool the
people.

This week we've also come a bit closer to the point
where we must see 9/11 as a bridge. We must see the
other side of that bridge as a place where we have an
informed populace, a truthful media, a Congress that
truly represents the people, and a world that works
together in cooperation to utilize the best in
enlightened thinking and scientific development that
enhances and ennobles the life of every human being.
It's up to all of us to collectively cross that bridge
while the planet can still sustain us. Like never
before, making the right transition into the future
can only occur with a powerful vision. Is there really
a choice?

Now for a look at what's next, you may be asking "what
can I do?" The answer is -- continue to get informed
and get active. Here's how:

• Review 911truth.org's activism page, "Now That
You Know, What Can You Do? "

• View 911Revisited for free online by clicking
here.

• See more educational video at
www.911busters.com.

• Order books and documentaries on DVD by clicking
here. (Be sure to read The New Pearl Harbor by David
Ray Griffin.)

• Become a 9/11 truth e-activist. Send articles to
folks on your email list. For new people an excellent
path to help make sense of this information is at
"Welcome Truth Seeker," and at the site
www.911proof.com.

• If you're into blogging, please join our
BloggerBrigade, which is a main component of our own
9/11 newswire. Read the description with our purpose
at http://lists.riseup.net/www/info/bloggerbrigade,
then send an email to
bloggerbrigade-subscribe@lists.riseup.net to
subscribe.

• We must all write letters-to-the-editor. We must
all lobby the media for more coverage. Also, be part
of our monthly grassroots action with Citizens
Counter-Coup at http://3c.911truth.org where we're
organizing the movement beyond the usual choir.

I must end by saying thank you to all the hard-working
activists and researchers who have endured great
sacrifice by devoting so many hours of their lives to
expose the truth of 9/11 without any assurance of
success. We've paved the way for the opening that
occurred this week, making it possible for others like
Charlie Sheen, Erica Jong and Ed Asner to come
forward. And of course, thanks to Alex Jones for all
he's done, and thanks to A.J. Hammer at CNN for
opening the door. For all who have endured the media
silence on 9/11 as we've reaped the consequences of
the globalist plot, real progress may be on the
horizon. For all who have been deprived of critical
thinking and historical context and have only been
able to view 9/11 through the lens of nationalistic
outrage, we can only hope they'll apply themselves to
viewing the mountain of evidence we've compiled and
learning the facts. May truth prevail for the good of
all.

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information we believe it contains. We hope that the
reader finds in it inspiration to work with us
further, in helping to build bridges between our
various investigative communities, towards a greater,
common understanding of the unanswered questions which
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 14:53:10 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <de1949@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Re: why are you afraid to touch this conclusive deduction? : dancing Mossad agents filming at the WTC betray Israeli involvement in 9-11 false-flag mass-murder

Scott,

I know you are right.

I cannot bring myself to stop pushing the evidence proving the guilt of the neo-cons, Mossad, etc. I view myself as trying to prevent more war, prevent more 9-11 mass-murder frame-ups and to free the U.S. (and the world) from organized-crime rule. Yet, I know that turn the cheek, and judge not lest you be judged, and forgive your enemies is the right path to take -- I am simply not capable of choosing between these two courses of action -- I lack the faith that by not resisting evil God's will will be better accomplished.

Thank you for the sound advice so well-intended. My message remains the same -- Moslem's are innocent of 9-11 -- racist Zionists (Neo-cons, Mossad etc.) are guilty of the black-op mass-murder act.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Legere
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] why are you afraid to touch this conclusive deduction? : dancing Mossad agents filming at the WTC betray Israeli involvement in 9-11 false-flag mass-murder

Dick

I try my best to let others walk their path in their current incarnation. To judge another is to not truly and fully understand the message of all the masters...Christ to Buddha...ALL OF THEM.

So when I say this, know I'm not judging, ... more of an observation. If their were no Jews or Christians..or Muslims or Buddhists...Just people, How would you be able to distinguish between you and those Jews you seem very upset about?

If you were to wonder why so many of us are upset with the current state of organized religion on Earth, it's pretty simple. All I observe from the majority of Fundamentalists Christians is this country is FEAR. The exact opposite of what Christ came here to teach you. Do you understand that most religions teach separation? so they actually CREATE what they fear. Christ knew that were are all truly connected. At the source! Incidentally Quantum Physics is showing us the Science to explain this wonderful connectivity between me and you and those "Jews" The Planet is actually coming TOGETHER...finally! Thanks to the Internet we can now stop fearing all that is Different. Can you Imagine the Internet being around during the cold war? Were all that fear that was shoved down our throats by control of information, would have simply dissolved away.

Well my friend welcome to the Reformation of Government AND Religion! They are both taking place at the same time. Do you think that the Da Vinci Code coming out as a movie at this exact moment in time during 9/11 truth is a coincidence? There's a lot more going on here than meets the eye. The more you open your eyes, The more you learn, the more you learn the less you fear. the less you fear the more your heart opens.

And as we all know just as there is a HUGE difference between Americans and The Government of America... The Same can be said for Israel

Best Regards
Scott Ledger
P.S. None of the above is at all meant to take away from your passion for change..OR...all that you have accomplished as a patriot. Thank you for thousands of hours of hard work.

""We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our
problems. The Palestinians are your problem."(9)
"

Zionist Jewry does not mind the deaths of non-Zionist Jews,
especially those who marry the goyim. But even one death
of a Zionist Israeli or U.S.-operating Zionist Jew would be too much.
Check any list of 9-11 victims at the WTC (or the Pentagon)
and you will find that the demographics of the list do not
match up with New York City or with High Finance and
International Trade -- the Jews just were not there.

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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 15:04:54 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Justice for innocent Saddam Hussein -- Once upon a time

From: Aeisha Muhammad

Once upon a time
a country was at war
and half a million foreign-soldiers
were standing outside its borders
getting ready to invade it........

Once upon that same time
in that same country
an uprising took place
backed by those half-million-soldiers , outside
and promised of their interference....
That interference never took place
and the insurgent lost many (all) battles.......

Today the legal government which
stood against those half million soldiers
and which has won against those insurgents
, is accused of genocide........

No......... it is not a tale from "1001 nights"

It took place in the besieged Iraq , of 1992.
and the Insurgents were the Shi'aa
who attacked their own Country/Government
hoping that George(Papa) Bush would ever help them .

Today in 2006 , who are we to blame :
1- Saddam Hussein who defended Iraq ??
2- The Shi'aa who allied with foreigners against their own Iraq ??
3- George (Papa) Bush who incited and cheated on the Shi'aa ??

Whom can we accuse of Genocide ?? ( or rather , of causing that Genocide ? )
and whom can we accuse of treason ??

Today we have the wrong Trial for the wrong accused , in Baghdad.

Raja Chemayel

Another story ???

Once upon a time......in a country north of Mexico
there ruled the predecessors of Papa Bush
who have left 6 million Bomb-Craters. behind them in Vietnam...........
and later blamed practically half the golbe
of being non-democratic nor Freedom-lovers......

Must go on...or you felt asleep already ??

Good night !!
Raja

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hundred years there isn't a single area of society that hasn't been
influenced by facilitators of transformation education. For complete
control of the masses a dictatorship is not necessary, although it does
expedite the process. The collective moulding begins early in life,
sustained and refined throughout one's formal education; a universal
curriculum of manipulation can transform and achieve a complete paradigm
shift for a whole generation.
Darwinism: Then and Now
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Darwin.htm>
[http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/images/2005/d/darwinSmall.jpg]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Darwin.htm> Every major war and
revolution from the Victorian Age onward has its catalyst rooted in the
dialectical-materialism philosophy known as Evolution. Today these
concepts are found in Communist regimes and the western world. In the
US, Communist activism broke out on the streets and college campuses
during the 60s and 70s in war protests, and in general counter-culture
movements under the cloak of various civil rights movements such as
feminism and often with the radical motives of breaking up families.
The Search for the Manchurian Candidate - The CIA and Mind Control:
Brainwashing (Chapter 8)
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Manchurian_Can8.htm>
[brainwashed]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Manchurian_Can8.htm> His
smorgasbord approach brought together virtually all possible techniques
of mind control, which he tested individually and together. When his
Agency grant came through in 1957, Cameron began work on sensory
deprivation.
Haarp: High-Frequency Vandalism in the Sky
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/HAARP.htm>
[HAARP] <http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/HAARP.htm> HAARP will
zap the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic
beam. It is an advanced model of an "ionospheric heater."
Secret Societies in the Western Tradition: The History and Development
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Secret_Societies.htm>
[Secret Societies]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Secret_Societies.htm> One feature
shared in common between many of today's Secret Societies, of both
ritual/charitable and occult flavour is that of a membership structure
consisting of graded or hierarchical degrees. The number of degrees can
vary widely, even within different branches of the same society, as can
the direction of numbering.
Factnet Report: Hubbard and the Occult
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Hubbard_Occult.htm>
[Scientology Cross]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Hubbard_Occult.htm> Most
Scientologists, celebrity and non-celebrity alike; as well as the
general public, are ignorant of the Satanic/Black Magic background of
its Founder, L. Ron Hubbard, and how he used these materials to form the
core of his secret "Sacred Scriptures."
The Gatekeepers of the So-Called Left
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Regulated_Resistance.htm>
[Left Gatekeepers]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Regulated_Resistance.htm> These
"resistance leaders" of the "Left" act as "Gatekeepers"—influential
"progressive" figures who use their resources and visibility to regulate
the debate, tactics, and rhetoric of the "anti-war" and other
"progressive" movements.
The Earth Charter and the Ark of the Gaia Covenant
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Earth_Charter_Ark.htm>
[Ark of Hope]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Earth_Charter_Ark.htm> On
September the 9th, 2001 a celebration of the Earth Charter was held at
Shelburne Farms Vermont for the unveiling of the Earth Charter's final
resting place.
Concepts Underlying the New Age Cultural Shift
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/new_age_beliefs.htm>
[new age emblem]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/new_age_beliefs.htm> I like to
think of new agers in two camps; social new agers who simply go along
with the drift of social change, and true disciples of "light", the New
Age Proper, or students of the "Ageless Wisdom" taught by Alice Bailey.
The Vril Society, the Luminous Lodge and the Realization of the Great
Work <http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Vril_Society.htm>
[Vril] <http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Vril_Society.htm> The
Vril Society presented the idea of a subterranean matriarchal, socialist
utopia ruled by superior beings who had mastered the mysterious energy
called the Vril Force.
The All-Seeing Eye, the President, the Secretary & the Guru
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/All_Seeing_Eye.htm>
[All Seeing Eye]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/All_Seeing_Eye.htm> Roosevelt as
he looked at the colored reproduction of the Seal was first struck with
the representation of the 'All-Seeing Eye,' a Masonic representation of
Great Architect the Universe. Next he was impressed with the idea that
the foundation for the new order of the ages had been laid in 1776 (May
1st, 1776, founding of the Illuminati) but would be completed only under
the eye of the Great Architect. Roosevelt like myself was a 32nd degree
Mason. He suggested that the Seal be put on the dollar bill rather that
a coin.
Skeletons in the White House
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Skeletons.htm>
[http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/images/b/bonesMascotSmall.jpg]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Skeletons.htm> Yale University
may, possibly, be withholding America's most dangerous secrets. The
institution protects the interests of three "Orders," presenting Scroll
and Key, Wolf's Head, and the notorious Skull and Bones as "Senior
Fraternities," but former pledges of these "Tombs," particularly Skull
and Bones, dominate American politics and prestigious corporations. The
Constitution places the people over the government and states equally,
everyone included. If they can investigate us, "we the people" need a
closer analysis of future, US leaders, their dinner dates, and the
companies who drop billions upon trillions into funding their schemes.
Secrets between powerful organizations, namely, Skull and Bones and
Scroll and Key (two prime suspects in enforcing the planet under a
single government; the New World Order), deserve a mandatory
investigation. Think history was an accidental phenomenon?
This Overshadowed Planet
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Overshadowed.htm>
[Overshadowed Planet]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Overshadowed.htm> This is a
classic internet study of occult influences in our modern age. More than
just a collection of quotes from various sources, This Overshadowed
Planet has truly become an internet classic.
Lucis (Lucifer) Trust, Alice Bailey, World Goodwill
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Lucis_Trust.htm>
[Lucis (Lucifer) Trust, Alice Bailey]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Lucis_Trust.htm> Lucis Trust
has truly become a powerhouse for the New Age ideal; the transformation
of society by, and through, occult initiatory means. The respect that
Bailey's teachings receive, and the reverence for her Master, is without
equal.
Freemasonry: Midwife to an Occult Empire
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Freemasonry.htm>
[Freemasonry Conspiracy]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Freemasonry.htm> The occult
revival of the 20th century can be directly attributed to Freemasonry
and its peripheral entourage of acolytes: Theosophy, the New Age
Movement, Satanism, Cabalistic Black Magic, Enochian Magic, Gerardian
Wicca, Alexandrian Wicca and Sex Magic.
Benjamin Creme, Maitreya, the Hierarchy of Ascended Masters and Lucifer
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Creme_Maitreya.htm>
[Benjamin Creme]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Creme_Maitreya.htm> In 1980
Creme wrote a book called The Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters
of Wisdom, which is an account of his telepathic communication with
Maitreya and the history of his involvement with the occult dating back
to the 1940's.
Fiction as a Precursor to Fact: Sci-fi 'Predictive Programming' and the
Emergent World Religion
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Sci.htm>
[http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/images/s/sciSmall.jpg]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Sci.htm> The new Mason was no
longer an architect of freestone. Instead, he was an architect of the
technocratic Utopia mandated by Bacon's New Atlantis. His god was Man
himself, an emergent deity sculpted by the Kabbalistic golem of nature
through the occult process of "becoming." Of course, this concept would
later be disseminated on the popular level as Darwinism and the world
would call it "evolution."
Global Governance: Why? How? When?
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Global_Governance_1.htm>
[Global Governance]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Global_Governance_1.htm> The other
idea, the idea of sovereign government, is not new. Historically, the
conqueror was the government. The Emperor, the King, the conqueror by
whatever name, established his government by appointment and established
laws by decree. Variations of this idea emerged over time to give the
perception that the people had some say in the development of law.
The Search for the Manchurian Candidate - The CIA and Mind Control: WWII
(Chapter 1) <http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Manchurian_Can1.htm>
[Manchurian Candidate]
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Manchurian_Can1.htm> Estabrooks
realized that the only certain way to know whether a person would commit
a crime like murder under hypnosis was to have the person kill someone.
Unwilling to settle the issue on his own by trying the experiment, he
felt that government sanction of the process would relieve the hypnotist
of personal responsibility.
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merger of State and corporate power."
Benito Mussolini, 1883-1945, Fascist dictator of Italy

"...there was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For
intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to
the stronger, 'and this will always be the man in the street.' Arguments
must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and
instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely
subordinate to tactics and psychology... Hatred and contempt must be
directed at particular individuals."
H. Trevor-Roper (ed), The Goebbels Diaries, p. XX, cited in Regan,
Geoffrey. 1987. Great Military Disasters. New York: M. Evans and Company

"There is a chance for the President of the United States to use the
disaster ... to carry out what his father - a phrase his father used I
think only once, and it hasn't been used since - and that is a New World
Order."
Senator Gary Hart, speaking three days after Sept. 11, 2001
<http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/senator_gary_hart_9-14-2001.mp3> at a CFR meeting

"Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must
destroy the Judeo-Christian religious tradition."
Peter Singer (father of the animal rights movement), The Deweese Report,
November 1998
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:30:13 -0700
From: John Leonard <jpleonard@verizon.net>
Subject: text of shareholder 911protest to Munich Re general meeting

Please contact me if you are interested in going
in with me on this next year, and for instructions how to do it.
For one thing, there is a prohibition against a
shareholder repeating the same proposal that has
been rejected in a prior year. This makes it
difficult to keep doing this on my own each year.
Also, if we could have one person file the motion
and another shareholder second it, that would double the impact.
There are two companies I'm doing this with,
Allianz and Munich Re. The cost to buy a share,
set up an account etc. is between $100 and $200
per company. The shares are actually a pretty
good investment, especially if you can afford
more than one or two. They are in Euros, for one thing.

Countermotion (Shareholder Proposal) to the
General Meeting of Munich Re to be held April 19th, 2006 - English version

From Shareholder:
John-Paul Leonard,
P.O. Box 126,
Joshua Tree, California 92252

Re: Agenda Item 3, Approval of the actions of the
members of the Board of Management, I propose that approval not be granted.

Re: Agenda Item 4, Approval of the actions of the
members of the Supervisory Board, I likewise
propose that approval not be granted.

Reasoning:

The managing and supervisory boards have taken a
passive attitude toward the insurance claims and
the suspicious aspects of the WTC insurance loss.

The investigation of insurance losses and
insurance damage claims against the Company is
naturally one of the chief duties of the management of every insurance firm.

The WTC catastrophe was doubtless one of the
biggest insurance incidents in history. A
significant portion of the multi-billion dollar
loss is expected to be borne by Munich Re.

Numerous observers and researchers find the WTC
case very suspicious. For example, in a public
opinion survey, 49.3% of respondents in New York
City agreed that "some of our leaders knew in
advance that attacks were planned on or around
September 11, 2001, and that they consciously
failed to act." [Source: www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855.]

When this belief is so widespread among unrelated
parties, haven't the affected insurance companies
ever asked whether perhaps the US Government
instead of the insurers is responsible for the
damages, or whether the possibility of insurance fraud should be investigated?

From reports in the media about the trial in New
York between the insurers and the insured WTC
leaseholder, no sign of such motions has been
made public. The dispute has been mainly over the
question, whether to pay out $7 billion or "only"
$3 billion, whereby the shareholders are supposed
to be relieved at the latter sum as a victory of the "lesser of two evils."

Nor has there been any lack of public criticism
and analysis voices in Germany. Several books in
the last few years have posed sharp questions to
the official WTC scenario. In 2003, Deutsche
Welle published an article entitled, "9/11
Conspiracy Theory Books Dominate Debate at
Frankfurt Book Fair." (www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,993523,00.html .)

Anyone who is interested can quickly obtain
similar materials from the Internet free of
charge, as well as continuing researches of the
background of 9/11 by independent journalists.

Two German-American writers, Jim Hoffman
(www.wtc7.net) and Eric Hufschmid, have
contibuted a great deal of evidence for the
controlled demolition of the Twin Towers and
Building WTC-7. Hufschmid's work was translated
and published in German
(www.painfulquestions.de). They claim that never
in history has the structure of a steel building
ever been destroyed by fire, and that on the
contrary, the evidence points to a controlled
demolition. I have never seen their claims refuted.

Building WTC-7 , as is well-known, was never
struck by airplanes, and photographs of it show
only insignificant fires ( www.wtcy.net).
Nevertheless, the 47-story building at WTC 7
suddenly collapsed at around 17:28 on 9/11/2001.
This fact was not even mentioned in the report of
the official 9/11 commission,
(www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf ) ,
nor explained by the FEMA report.

How can an insurer take such an extreme case
simply and casually as business as usual?

There is plenty more such evidence that would be
useful in the billion-dollar lawsuit, which every
citizen with an Internet connection can confirm.
Why aren't the insurers able to?

There is even a private lawsuit already against
US government officials in connection with the
events of 9/11, see http://www.911forthetruth.com.

When the managing and supervisory boards take no
action to join the investigation of a case as
huge and notorious as the WTC, how are the
shareholders to know that other cases, too, for
whatever reason, are not paid out without being
properly investigated? If they let everything be
paid only because certain suspects have
government connections, doesn't this suggest
corruption and criminality at the highest levels?

(The undersigned is the owner of the publishing
house Progressive Press and publisher of "9/11
Synthetic Terror" by Webster G. Tarpley.)

Official version in German

Münchener Rückversicherungs-Gesellschaft
GL1.2 - Hauptversammlung
80791 München
Deutschland
per Fax: +49 (89) 38 91-45 15
Und E-mail an
shareholder@munichre.com.

Per fax und e-mail, am 4. April, 2006

Betr: Gegenantrag an die Hauptversammlung der
Münchener Rückversicherungs-Gesellschaft, 19 April, 2006

vom Aktionär:
John-Paul Leonard,
P.O. Box 126,
Joshua Tree, Kalifornien 92252

Ich möchte hiermit einen Gegenantrag an die
Hauptversammlung stellen (in Deutsch und auch Englisch, s. unten).

Mit freundlichen Grüssen,

John-Paul Leonard

===============

Zu Tagesordnungpunkt 3, Entlastung der Mitglieder
des Vorstands, ich schlage vor, die Mitglieder
des Vorstands nicht zu entlasten.

Zu Tagesordnungpunkt 4, Entlastung der Mitglieder
des Aufsichtsrats, ich schlage gleichweise vor,
die Mitglieder des Aufsichtsrats nicht zu entlasten.

Begründung

Die Mitglieder des Vorstands und des
Aufsichtsrats nehmen eine passive Stellung
gegenüber die Ansprüche auf Schadensvergütung und
die verdächtige Momenten vom WTC-Versicherungsverlust.

Die Überprüfung von Versicherungsverlusten bzw.
von Ansprüchen auf Schadensvergütung gegen die
Gesellschaft gehört selbstverständlich zu den
Hauptpflichten der Betriebsleitung jeder Versicherungsgesellschaft.

Der Fall WTC war bestimmt einer der grössten
Versicherungsfälle der Geschichte. Ein wichtiger
Anteil vom Mehrmilliardenverlust fällt auf die Münchener Rückversicherung.

Zahlreiche Beobachter und Forscher halten den
WTC-Fall für sehr verdächtig. Zum Beispiel, in
einer Umfrage der öffentlichen Meinung in New
York City, haben 49.3% von den Befragten
beantwortet, daß einige verantwortlichen Stellen
der US-Regierung "wußten in voraus daß die
Anschläge am oder um die 11.9.2001 geplant
wurden, trotzdem bewußt nichts dagegen
unternommen haben." [Quelle: www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855. ]

Wenn dieser Glauben so weitverbreitet unter
unabhängigen Dritten wird, haben die betroffenen
Versicherungen die Frage noch nie gestellt, ob
die US-Regierung anstelle der Versicherung haften
sollte, oder ob die Möglichkeit von
Versicherungsbetrug untersucht werden sollte?

Aus der Berichterstattung vom Prozeß in New York
zwischen den Versicherungen und dem versicherten
WTC-Verpachter sind keine solcher Akzente an die
Öffentlichkeit gekommen. Es war eine Debatte
hauptsächlich darüber, ob 7 Milliarden oder "nur"
3 Milliarden auszubezahlen seien, wobei die
Aktionäre sich mit der letzteren Summe als "Sieg
des kleineren Übels" befriedigen dürfen.

Weder hat es an kritischen und analytischen
öffentlichen Stimmen in Deutschland gefehlt.
Mehrere Bücher in den letzten Jahren stellten
scharfe Fragen an den offiziellen WTC-Szenario.
In 2003 hat Deutsche Welle ein Artikel
veröffentlicht mit dem Titel, "9/11 Conspiracy
Theory Books Dominate Debate at Frankfurt Book
Fair;" d.h. etwa: "Bücher von
Verschwörungstheorien über 11.9 führen die
Debatte am Frankfurter Buchmesse"
(www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,993523,00.html .)

Jeder der sich daran interessiert kommt schnell
und kostenlos durch das Internet an ähnliches
Material, sowie an die fortsetzende Untersuchung
der Hintergründen von 11.9 durch freiberuflichen Journalisten.

Zwei deutsch-amerikanische Schriftsteller, Jim
Hoffman (www.wtc7.net) und Eric Hufschmid, haben
viele Beweise für die Sprengung von den
Zwillings-Türmen und vom Gebäude WTC-7
beigetragen; die Arbeit von Hufschmid wurde in
deutscher Sprache übersetzt und veröffentlicht.
Sie behaupten daß niemals in der Geschichte das
Tragwerk von einem Hochhaus aus Stahlkonstruktion
durch Brand zerstört wurde, vielmehr sollen alle
Spuren auf eine kontrollierte Demolierung
hinweisen. Eine Widerlegung dieser Behauptungen
habe ich nirgends finden können.

Das Hochhaus WTC-7 wurde bekanntlich von
Flugzeugen nie berührt, und Fotos davon zeigen
nur unbedeutenden Bränden (www.wtc.net ). Jedoch
fiel das 47-stöckige Haus am WTC 7 plötzlich in
sich um 17:28 Uhr am 11.9.2001: eine Begebenheit,
die der Bericht vom offiziellen
9/11-Untersuchungsausschusses gar nicht
erwähnt
(www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf ),
und das FEMA-Bericht nicht erklären kann.

Wie kann ein solcher brisanten Fall einfach ohne
weiteres durch die Versicherung im Kauf genommen werden?

Es gibt eine Fülle von derartigen heiklen
Beweismaterialien, die nützlich beim
Milliardenprozeß wären, wie jeder Bürger mit
einer Verbindung zum Internet selbst bestätigen
kann. Warum also die Versicherungen nicht?

Es gibt sogar schon eine private Gerichtsanklage
gegen Mitgliedern von US-Regierungskreisen wegen
der Ereignissen vom 11.September, 2001, siehe
http://www.911forthetruth.com/pages/RodriguezComplaint.htm.

Wenn Aufsichtsrat und Vorstand einen Fall von der
Grösse und Auffälligkeit des WTC am 11.9.2001
nicht sorgfältig mitprüfen lassen, wie können die
Aktionäre sicher sein, daß auch andere Fälle aus
beliebigen Gründen ohne ausreichende Untersuchung
nicht vergütet werden? Wenn sie lassen alles
ausbezahlen, nur weil einige Verdächtigen mit
einer Regierung verbunden sind, spricht dies
nicht von Korruption und Kriminalität auf höchster Ebene?

Der Antraggeber ist Inhaber des Verlags
"Progressive Press" und Verleger vom Buch, "9/11
Synthetic Terror" von Webster G. Tarpley.

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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:21:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: lowell dent <lowell_journalist@yahoo.com>
Subject: Study: 9/11 Escapees Have Health Problems

No surprise. Even though assured by the Federal government that the debris represented no threat, the levels of mercury,aluminum from only destroyed computers and asbestos that would have cost Silverstein $billions to remove. Bad enough that insiders were involved, but to send people back in telling them "all clear" is adding insult (and death) to injury.
11 - The Truth This means that Silverstein, or whoever, would have certainly had the option to ... pounds of asbestos, and enough mercury to contaminate 2500 city blocks. ...
energygrid.com/society/2005/9-11.html - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
A Post Apocalyptic Silverstein gets 3,5 billion in insurance for a 300 million dollar 6 week ... They are all dying from lung diseases caused by the asbestos, mercury and lead ...
blastedreality.blogspot.com/ - 114k - Cached - Similar pages
Health News .hdcontent {width: 230px; float: left;} Study: 9/11 Escapees Have Health ProblemsAP - 1 hour, 37 minutes ago NEW YORK - A majority of survivors of the 2001 attacks that destroyed the World Trade Center suffered from respiratory ailments and depression, anxiety and other psychological problems up to three years later, federal health officials said Friday.

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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 07:59:47 -0000
From: "kennendyone" <kennendyone@yahoo.com>
Subject: *****EXPOSE THE LIES NOW!*****

The Global Elite International Banker syndicate criminal who are ruling
the world want to destroy the North America way of life with our
couscouinness so I said it's time to waking up folk and expose them
with all their lies !

Topic of this post : Destruction of the North America by the Global
Elite by the collapse of the Canada, United States and Mexico in a whole
civil war and buying every infrastructures inside all the America
continent who are controlled by NWO agents inside our government and the
rest of the world (Venezuela it's an exception)

Destruction of America by the Global Elite

As you know the America is under attack for hundred of years by the
international bankers we call the Illuminati. But inside these
Illuminati, you have even more secret division inside the interior heart
circle of the Illumati who are really controlling everything. I mean,
they are controlling the world with the help of mad extraterrestrials
aliens for millennium with their ancient orders and so on.

But because they want to destroy America in any means they can, they are
creating cultural tension. As an example, here in Quebec with the
commandite problem regarding subsides with front company who help Paul
Martin and his government to win again supposedly the separatist in the
Quebec province in Canada with the Liberal Party (corrupted Party)(Paul
Martin it's a Bilderberg as well as Steven Harper, the Prime
Minister of Canada who are puppet agent of the NWO as well as the G.W.
Bush Skull&Bones one and Vicente Fox) and conflict of interest with most
the five front companies with their owners stealing the Canadian money
in their own pocket. They use this story to create a tension between the
Quebeckers in the Quebec province who are in majority French as I am and
the English people in the rest of Canada. Another example is between the
Mexican illegal immigration invasion with pro nationalist Mexican
against white American and even the black American. Don't you dare
to comprehend this plot!!!?????

After that you have also foreign troops like the Chinese, Russian and
German inside the Canada and the U.S. who are ready if they need to
fight a continent counter-revolution against the Canadian, American and
Mexican people who want to regroup and fight the NWO Global Elite. In
fact, us, the real patriot in each country in North America, it's us
folk, it's us, I mean you and me!!! Everything people you know, your
families!!! The patriot movement need to come forward from the Mexican,
American and Canadian people if we want to fight back the NWO by
regrouping each others instead of fighting each others!! We have to
fight like the French who are the most active by fighting the NWO and
inform!!! We have to WAKING UP!

Also, they are buying every strategic location like the Dubai port deal
because if they can control all the major ports they can prepare the
stage of a invasion by the N.A.T.O. forces with the secret army inside
the underground base all around North America where most of the major
bases are inside the U.S. with highly advance technology who are so
advance that people just could believe they are from another planet when
in fact, there are from own our country here in United States. Also, you
have the rest of the foreign troops and American Sixth Army who are
totally manipulated by the NWO with a lot of commander inside the
American army, ground, navy and air who are totally sell to the NWO. In
fact, the Canadian Army, Mexican Army and American Army are totally
manipulated without knowing from who their really serving in term of
interest! They are manipulated! They don't know everything about the
Global Elite and they want to us these manipulated soldiers to control
us!!!? I mean maybe it's will be a good idea to expose them,
DON'T YOU THINK SO?

On the other side you have, us, the real patriots, the people of Agharta
bellow us in the interior world of planet Earth our government hidden
for so long and even bombard them with nuclear weapons and also some
dwellers living more deeply in the underground base Earth more deeper
then the NOW underground bases and with some agents in each agencies
working for the good and we also have the Galactic Confederation of
Light who are about trillions of people all around you and helping us in
higher magnetic reality with their monstrous gigantic enormous forces
armada spaceship all around our solar system surrounding the planet
Earth as siege it against this Global Elite International Bankers
criminals at a galactic level ! Don't respecting the laws of the
universe, our creation, our creator who want us to waking up and fight
back this Global Elite International Bankers Satanic Occultism Criminals
Psychopath! They are anti-creation!!

The Global Elite want to invade the America continent to take the
control of the planet to the surface because they know if they destroy
America they will impose a dictatorship and then implement cyber mind
control technology where will be force to have this technology to be
implement in us. We are taking about each of us!!!!!!! In fact, they
want to controlling us like puppets so the planet could not make his
ascension where we have being selected one hundred years in advance
before incarnate here to make this job at this present moment. We are
the force of the light! The force of consciousness who are now waking
up!

In fact, they are totally going no where because they don't have the
strength to do this gigantic operation because they are constantly
attacked by the Galactic Confederation behind the scene and stop by them
before they can do anything like making a invasion in North America and
I know the Galactic Confederation can take this planet in only 30
minutes if they really want, so in you and me the secret government
aren't in power to stop them. So forget about any N.A.T.O. invasion,
it's all over for the secret government already and they know it.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/03/281821.shtml
<http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/03/281821.shtml>

Indeed, what the main black Medias (Corporates Medias controlled by the
think tank NWO who receive money to create the story line for billion of
people, like a showquiz news or sensationalist news nothing to do with
the truth reality) are agents working for the NWO propaganda mass
control psy-op operation. They want to keep us in their matrix ideology
pseudo reality like sheep!!

How to capitalize on our advantage because we are backed by our allies
all around us and make sure to secure the North America for the first
arrival contact with the Galactic Confederation of Light and the
announcement of the N.E.S.A.R.A. that will bring the Earth planet,
Gaïa soul. to the Golden Age and end the war all over the planet and
a new way of life with abundance and love ?

Because we are in a position to attack them they are worry about us
because we are bombard by the tachyon energy from the Galactic
Confederation armada fleet that is a love ray of energy creating a
harmonisation in our genes and waking up all our potential of our human
being regarding 100% of our capabilities. As an example we can in not so
much time have telepathic capability, telekinesis as well, we can see at
higher dimension spaceship, we can make out of body experience and see
even etheric being from higher magnetic dimension as love or
harmonisation will come our capacity of consciousness to rise up either.

That's why they need mind control technologies to controlling us
here at the surface of the planet because of our potential. That's
why they are use chemtrails, toxins chemical product in our food,
electricity technology, nuclear technology, gas for car, everything that
can drop our magnetic field from getting in a more dense lighter density
so we can have our full potential at any level regarding us. They fear
us because of our enormous potential we have in a higher vibration level
or magnetic level. That's why they create a terrorist war (C.I.A
invention) so they can take all the liberties of the American people and
even the North American as well!

That's why we need to expose their plans and everything we know on
them. That's mean their structural secret societies, their black
program concerning the cover up UFO and everything about the Global
Elite International Bankers related to them. It's the time to make
the consciousness revolution for a whole, all the planet with his people
together as one and take out any national leader's puppets working
for the New World Order now!!!

That's mean, inform about the NOW and organize and act in
consequence by exposing who they are and make sure we will rise up again
the secret government controlling us and bring the first contact to his
conclusion and liberate this planet from the tyranny where we live for
thousand of years without be conscious about who we are because we have
being manipulated and genetically modify in the proceed so we can't
remember our real origin. We aren't of this planet!!

So regroup and fight as a whole and expose the truth by any means
necessary because it's a war for the consciousness and our true
potential need to be restored now!!!!! Also, at the end we can then
retake our liberty as a truth galactic human in this new age coming!!
The Golden Age of Planet Earth, the New Earth.

Say the truth regarding 9/11, Skull&Bones who are the responsible of the
9/11 and are selfish working for the Global Elite International Banker!
We have being betray by our leaders! We have traitors at the White
House, in our country as well in Ottawa in Canada, as well in Mexico as
well in Paris as well in Germany, Russia, China and so on.

They even want to destroy the overall population by 90% song like they
are totally crazy as serious. They are talking about eliminating all our
potentional and who we are, we MUST STOP THEM TO DO THIS by regrouping
and exposing the truth so we will rise up and fight them as a whole !

The American black operation division working for the Global Elite of
the NWO have anti-gravitational technology where their spaceship can go
at 50 mach the speed of song. http://www.drboylan.com/xplanes2.html
<http://www.drboylan.com/xplanes2.html> you have everything you need to
this link to see who are really behind the cover up UFO inside each of
the U.S. agencies like the USAF and the C.I.A. Skull&Bones who did
invented the war on terror who are responsible of the killing innocent
people in Irak! C.I.A is killing people all over the world for
decades!!!!!!!!

the TR3-B 'Astra" , is a large triangular anti-gravity craft within the
U.S. fleet. Black projects defense industry insider Edgar Rothschild
Fouche wrote about the existence of the TR3-B in his book, Alien Rapture
(10).
My ex-NSA informant, 'Z', also confirmed that the TR3-B is operational.
'Z' had this to say about the TR3-B triangular antigravity craft.
"TR3-B. This is the code name for what everyone on Earth has seen. It is
a very large triangular-shaped re-entry vehicle with anti-gravity. It is
what the November [2000] issue of Popular Mechanics identified as the
Lenticular Reentry Vehicle, a nuclear-powered flying saucer, the first
version of which went operational in 1962, [the version which Popular
Mechanics illustrated.]
'It was used in Gulf War's early hours with electromagnetic-pulse/laser
cannons. It literally sat mid-air, firing long-, medium-, short-range to
take out antennas, towers, communications, air traffic control towers,
TV dishes and centers, etc. For three hours, these three triangles
[TR3-Bs] just sat there blowing up everything in sight. Then the Stealth
fighters had fun for the rest of the day into the early evening next
night. Then [followed] carpet bombings from high altitude B-52
Strato-Fortresses. They dumped all the old, aged Vietnam-era crap
[munitions]; a third blew up and the rest [were] duds. Anyways, the TR3B
has been in testing since the '60s. But it has only been perfected for
the last 8 years [since 1992]. It is a good remake of what Truman first
saw, [the Roswell semi- circular craft]. It is compartmentalized, built
by the Skunk Works {Lockheed-Martin's classified plant at Palmdale, CA)
and Boeing [Phantom Works, Seattle]. It is housed in Utah. 'Z' was
reminding of his earlier revelation that the U.S. Space Command has
located its prime headquarters and antigravity space-launch fleet
facility beneath King Mountain, the tallest mountain in the Wasatch
Range east of Salt Lake City, Utah.

http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/scot_ufo_investigation.htm
<http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/scot_ufo_investigation.htm>

It's an American black project hybrid space fighter craft they
construct and take the technology from Galactic Federation Fleet in the
wreckage where American black anti-gravitanionnal space craft intercept
and neutralize and capture Galactic Confederation space scout by killing
innocent being from other world They have delta force/reconnaissance
team anti-gravity helicopter who are responsable for the abduction and
mutilation cattle. Their mission was to intend to make believe believe
that UFO was dangerous and in fact it's them !! They did also abducte
people by rapping woman and beating people and they use psychonotronic
mind control technology and incorporate pictures of alien in the memory
cortex so the person will believe she was abducted by alien when in
fact, most of the time it's them, our gouvernment. They also intend to
create film like Independance Day where the real goal was to make the
people have fear of a reality regarding the UFO or another civilisation
when in fact, most of the civilisation in our universe or creation are
good being and not bad one, like the propaganda of the NWO seem to use
as fear factor to condition the people about this reality.They are
criminals! The Global Elite absolutely know about the extraterrestrials
as well as the intraterrestrials inside Earth, our ally the people of
Agharta!! They are lying to us! Just Iask to the D.I.A. and the Serpo
project an american team of 12 person go in a exchange program in the
Zeta Riticuli system just across our own system a planet call Serpo.
They use alien technology in our own society without we never know it!
We have derivated alien technology in our own product like the Kevlar
and optic comunnication technology! It's all come from UFO crash
technology that has being shot down by american black operation
anti-grativationnal spaceship hybryded by the black gouvernement
scientist division here in the America and the rest of the technology.
They have technology we could since the 1930 but never tell us it's
exist. Like medical health advance technology, I mean they have all the
technology in the world save people from cancer and so on ! Every diasie
in all the world should all be cured by now !

Look a this!!! http://www.serpo.org/information.html
<http://www.serpo.org/information.html>

Project Serpo
The Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program

The gradual release of confidential documents pertaining to a top secret
exchange program of twelve US military personnel to Serpo, a planet of
Zeta Reticuli, between the years 1965-78

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The original posting by Anonymous, and three apparently independent
supporting comments from other list members

First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a
retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great
details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.

As for Roswell, it occurred, but not like the story books tell. There
were two crash sites. One southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the second
site at Pelona Peak, south of Datil, New Mexico.

The crash involved two extraterrestrial aircraft. The Corona site was
found a day later by an archaeology team. This team reported the crash
site to the Lincoln County Sheriff's department. A deputy arrived the
next day and summoned a state police officer. One live entity [EBE] was
found hiding behind a rock. The entity was given water but declined
food. The entity was later transferred to Los Alamos.

The information eventually went to Roswell Army Air Field. The site was
examined and all evidence was removed. The bodies were taken to Los
Alamos National Laboratory because they had a freezing system that
allowed the bodies to remain frozen for research. The craft was taken to
Roswell and then onto Wright Field, Ohio.

The second site was not discovered until August 1949 by two ranchers.
They reported their findings several days later to the sheriff of Catron
County, New Mexico. Because of the remote location, it took the sheriff
several days to make his way to the crash site. Once at the site, the
sheriff took photographs and then drove back to Datil.

Sandia Army Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico was then notified. A recovery
team from Sandia took custody of all evidence, including six bodies. The
bodies were taken to Sandia Base, but later transferred to Los Alamos.

The live entity established communications with us and provided us with
a location of his home planet. The entity remained alive until 1952,
when he died. But before his death, he provided us with a full
explanation of the items found inside the two crafts. One item was a
communication device. The entity was allowed to make contact with his
planet.

Somehow, I never knew this information, but a meeting date was set for
April 1964 near Alamogordo New Mexico. The Aliens landed and retrieved
the bodies of their dead comrades. Information was exchanged.
Communication was in English. The aliens had a translation device.

In 1965, we had an exchange program with the aliens. We carefully
selected 12 military personnel; ten men and two women. They were
trained, vetted and carefully removed from the military system. The 12
were skilled in various specialities.

Near the northern part of the Nevada Test Site, the aliens landed and
the 12 Americans left. One entity was left on Earth. The original plan
was for our 12 people to stay 10 years and then return to Earth.

But something went wrong. The 12 remained until 1978, when they were
returned to the same location in Nevada. Seven men and one woman
returned. Two died on the alien's home planet. Four others decided to
remain, according to the returnees. Of the eight that returned, all have
died. The last survivor died in 2002.

[Clarification (BR/ Victor Martinez): the paragraph above contains a
typo in the original. Twelve team members went, and eight returned –
two having died on Serpo and two having chosen to remain; these two were
not ordered to return.]

The returnees were isolated from 1978 until 1984 at various military
installations. The Air Force Office of Special Investigation (AFOSI) was
responsible for their security and safety. AFOSI also conducted
debriefing sessions with the returnees.

I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program. I once
heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe, but she didn't have
much information.

I've monitored your e-mails for about six months. I've read e-mails from
you and others. But I've never seen nor heard the truth about the real
Roswell incident or the exchange program.

I'd like to hear what others say about this.

Comment 1 (by Gene Loscowski):

Who is this person? Most of the information is absolutely correct.

However, I never heard of any females going. To the best of my
knowledge, we had 12 men, all military men. Eight USAF, two Army and two
Navy guys. I think the females are a red herring. But maybe I just
didn't have the clearance for that.

They left and was gone 20 years, as I was told. When they came back they
were put in quarantine for 365 days at the complex. Only eight came
back, that much is right. Two died a few years into their assignment on
the Visitor's planet. Two others decided to remain and maybe are still
alive today. Since their return, all have died. The last being in 2003
in a VA hospital.

As for the Roswell incident. Whomever sent the e-mail is correct.

The complete debriefing is contained in: "PROJECT SERPO," Final
Report-80HQD893-020, classified TS, Codeword. Ask [Rick] Doty about that
report because I think it is an OSI report. Paul [McGovern] should be
commenting on this since he was involved in the debriefing.

[Clarification by Victor Martinez, 1 December: Ths project
classification was provided by Paul McGovern, not Gene Loscowski.
Apologies for the error.]

Comment 2 (by Paul McGovern):

Interesting but not totally correct [commenting on Anonymous's original
e-mail]. As for the Roswell incident: absolutely right. Few people have
ever gotten it entirely correct. Two crash sites, not one. As for the
exchange program: Unauthorized Release of Classified Information, as I
see it. But maybe someone currently within our government wants it out.
No females were sent. Twelve men, all military. 8 USAF, 2 U.S. Army and
2 U.S. Navy. Two were doctors; three were scientists; two were language
specialists; two were security personnel; two were pilots and one was
the leader (Colonel-AF).

All were sheep-dipped and completely erased from the military roles. I'm
not totally sure of the training period, but I think it was about six
months. They were able to transmit messages to Earth by means of a
communication system set up prior to their trip.

One doctor and one of the security personnel died three years into their
visit. The doctor died of pneumonia and the security guy died of an
injury. The exchange team had to endure extreme hardship adjusting to
the environment of the visitor's planet.

The heat was extreme and took many years to adjust. The food was
something of a problem because the human system had problems digesting
it. The team took enough food for two years and rationed it another
eight months, but eventually had to eat the visitor's [Eben's: alien's
name] food. This caused all team members gastrointestinal problems.
Eventually, they adjusted. The visitors tried to create different foods
but few worked.

The team was never isolated or restricted by the visitors. They could
travel as they wished and see whatever they wanted to see. After about
six years, the team moved to a northern portion of the visitor's planet,
where the temperature was cooler and which contained ample vegatation.

The visitors built a small community for the team. The only major
problem was time. Time was different on the visitor's planet. I don't
think anyone ever figured it out. The visitors had no clocks. They
didn't judge or account for time as we did. The visitors found our
attempts to account for time strange.

The visitors were extremely disciplined in their daily lives. Every
visitor worked on a schedule, which was not by a clock, but by the
movement of their sun. Each little community had a large tower, which
filtered the sun through. When the sun was at a particular point on the
tower, it meant the visitors had to do a particular thing.

There was never complete darkness on the visitors planet. It got dim but
not dark. The visitors had rest periods, but not like our sleep periods.
The visitors rested three times during their sun days. Our team
determined the entire work period was approx. 43 hours. They had three
rest periods within that 43 hours. That is still about 14 hours
straight,... couldn't get too many of our workers to do that! The
visitors also didn't have months or years.

They did have life periods, as our team coined it. It was impossible to
judge the visitor's age, although our team did find graves. The
population of the visitor's planet was about 650,000. There were small
communities throughout the planet. There were underground rivers, which
fed into open valleys. There was industry.

But all of the food was grown, either in fields or in large buildings.
They did have animals. Different types. Strange large beasts, they used
for work and other things, but no meat was eaten. The geological make up
of the planet was so much different than ours. Few mountains, no oceans,
some trees or something similar to trees and no other civilization
except the Ebens.

Everyone looked the same initially to our team. But after some time, the
team members learned to identify different Ebens by their voices.
Although the Ebens couldn't speak English, they did make noises that our
team members were able to translate into English. After five years, we
had their language completely translated into English. The complete
debriefing accounts for about three thousand pages.

Comment 3 (by "Anonymous II"):

I would prefer you keep my name private.

But here is my evaluation of the information from "Anonymous."

1. As for the Roswell incident [described by Anonymous in his e-mail]:
This was the story I read in the historical document called the "Red
Book." Almost exactly to the word. Although there were more details
about the crash sites and what was recovered.

2. As for the Exchange Program: I read about it but thought there were
12 men; I don't recall any women. But that was about all I knew. We did
have a special unit that handled their debriefing but USAF positive
intelligence was also involved. I was never involved in that program,
but I knew other agents who were.

3. I'd like to contact this source. I have about a million questions to
ask!

I heard Linda Howe speak about the exchange program some years ago. I
always wondered where she got her information.

Keep up the excellent work!

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Posting Two by Anonymous (4 November, 2005)

Paul is not correct. There were two females, one being a doctor and the
other being a linguist.

There was a period of darkness, but not total darkness. The Eben planet
is located within a solar system of the Zeta Recticular Star System
<http://www.ufoconspiracy.com/reports/zetareticuli_star_sys.htm> [two
5th-magnitude yellow double stars, similar to our Sun located near the
Large Magellanic Cloud]. The planet had two suns but their angles were
small and allowed some darkness on the planet depending on one's
location.

The planet was tilted which allowed the northern part of the planet to
be cooler. The planet was a little less than Earth's size. The
atmosphere was similar to Earths and contained the elements of CHON
[Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen]. Zeta Recticular is approximately
37 light years from us. It took our team, in an Eben craft, nine months
to travel the distance.

During the trip, each of our team members were frequently dizzy,
disoriented and suffered headaches. The craft did not go through any
weightlessness during the trip. The craft was very large and allowed the
team to exercise.

Once the team arrived on the Eben planet, it took them several months to
adjust to the atmosphere. During the adjustment period, they suffered
headaches, dizziness and disorientation.

The bright suns of the Eben planet also presented problems. Although
they had sunglasses, they still suffered from the bright sunlight and
the danger of sun exposure. The radiation levels of the planet was a
little higher than that of Earth. They were careful to cover their
bodies at all times.

The Ebens had no forms of refrigeration, except in industry. The
temperature of the planet, at the center portion, stayed between 94°
and 115.° They did have clouds and rain, but not frequently. At the
northern hemisphere of the planet, the temperature dropped to between 55
and 80 degrees. This was too cool for the Ebens, or at least most. Our
team did find Ebens living in the north, but in very small villages.

Our team eventually relocated to the north in order to stay cool. The
ground transportation used by our team was similar to a helicopter. The
power system was a sealed energy device that provided electrical power
and lift for the craft. It was very easy to fly and our pilots learned
the system within days. The Ebens did have vehicles, which floated above
the ground and did not have any tires or wheels.

There were leaders, but no real form of government. There was virtually
no crime seen by the team. They had an army, which also acted as the
police force. But no guns or weapons of any type were seen by our team.
There were regular meetings within each small community. There was one
large community, which acted as the central point of the civilization.
All the industry was at this one large community. There was no money.

Every Eben was issued what they needed. No stores, malls or shopping
locations. There were central distribution centers where Ebens went to
obtain items of needs. All Ebens worked in some capacity. Children were
kept very isolated. The only trouble our team members got into was when
they attempted to photograph Eben children.

The Army politely escorted them away and cautioned them not to do it
again.

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Posting Three by Anonymous (7 November, 2005)

Statistics on the Eben planet was collected by our team. Here is the
pertinent data for your UFO thread list:
Diameter: 7,218 miles Mass: 5.06 x 1024 Distance from Sun #1: 96.5
million miles Sun #2: 91.4 million miles Moons: 2 Surface gravity:
9.60m/s2 Rotation Periods: 43 hours Orbit: 865 days Tilt: 43
degrees Temperature: Min: 43° / Max: 126° Distance from Earth:
38.43 light years Planet named by Team: SERPO Nearest planet to
SERPO: Named: OTTO Distance:
88 million miles (colonized by Ebens with research base, but no natural
inhabitants on planet) Number of planets in Eben Solar System: Six
Nearest inhabited planet to SERPO:

Named: SILUS (SILUS is made up of creatures of various types, but no
intelligent life forms. Ebens use the planet to mine minerals.)
Distance: 434 million miles
We did have visitors from nine other star systems.

The Grays, which some people characterize as being like the Ebens, were
not. They came from a planet near Alpha Centauri A.

[ALPHA CENTAURI is a nearby multiple star with a magnitude of -0.3 and
is the third brightest star in the sky. It consists of two yellow and
orange stars of magnitudes 0.0 and 1.4. There is also a much fainter
third star, an 11th magnitude red dwarf called Proxima Centauri. This is
the closest to our Sun, 4.2 light years away or about 0.2 light years
closer to us than the two brighter members of the Alpha Centauri
system.]

The third class of visitors came from a G2 star system in Leo.

[LEO or LEO MINOR? LEO: Star distances range from 20-25 – 77 light
years away. Notable interest is Gamma Leonis which is a glorious double
star consisting of two golden orange giants of magnitudes 2.4 and 3.5.
They are a genuine binary pair orbiting each other every 600 years or
so.
LEO MINOR: Squeezed between Leo and Ursa Major with its brightest star
Beta Leonis Minoris that has a magnitude of 4.2. It is a close double
star which are 145 light years away with an orbital period of 37 years.]

Another class of visitors came from a G2 star system in Epsilon Eridani.

[EPSILON ERIDANI is one of the closest naked-eye stars to our Sun. It is
10.5 light years way with a magnitude of 3.7. Although somewhat cooler
and fainter than the Sun, it is otherwise similar.]

The visitors were classified by a code. The code, which was classified
in itself, was, "Extraterrestrial Entities" (ETE). ETE-2 were the Ebens,
the Grays were ETE-3, and so on.

The "Red Book" lists nine different visitors. We determined recently
that some of the visitors were the same type of race but a "mechanical
lifeform." They were hybrid beings that were created in a laboratory
rather than by natural birth.

The creatures were more like robots, although they were intelligent and
could make decisions. They might be the "hostile" visitors that some
people report.

To the best of my knowledge, we have NOT had any visitation since 1985
from the Ebens.

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Posting Four by Anonymous (9 November, 2005)

Thanks for forwarding my information to your e-mail stream list without
ID'ing me. I realize it might be a little difficult for you to keep my
name confidential with the mounting pressure enormous, but I don't
wish to reveal it at this time; perhaps to Richard C Doty in due time as
his questions and online demeanor seems to be the most fair, open
minded, and his questions posed were the most reasonable as I monitor
the online feedback after each new posting.

I also realize your list of quizzical people have numerous probing
questions. I'll try to answer them, but you must understand that all of
this information is contained in a huge voluminous book. There are
literally hundreds of pages of scientific calculations trying to
understand Serpo, the orbit, etc. I could not possibly relate all of
that information via e-mail.

Our scientists had the same questions, as posed by your audience. Our
scientists questioned our team members and the information they
gathered. Our scientists could not understand how the orbit of Serpo
could revolve around the two suns at the distance measured.

In the end, our scientists found that some things relating to that
particular system was different in physics compared to our system. There
were some questions about how our team measured the orbit and other
calculations based on the lack of a stable time base. For some reason
– and I don't think this was ever determined – our time
instruments did not work on Serpo.

Now, considering this, you can understand the difficult job our team
members had making calculations without time. They had to come up with
an alternate method to measure speeds, orbits, etc.

Challenge: Try solving a problem in physics without being able to
measure time on Earth!

So you see, our team did the best they could with the instruments they
had and the hardships they developed attempting scientific calculations.
It is difficult for any Earth-based scientist to understand the
different physics in other solar systems or on other planets.

One of the questions sent me involved Kepler's Law of Planetary Motion.
Our team had that information. We had some of the best military
scientists on the team. But if you consider Kepler's Law, it requires
time and our team could only measure time in the conventional way. It
was determined that Kepler's Laws did not apply to that solar system.

MODERATOR's COMMENT: (Victor Martinez)
[Johannes Kepler was a German astronomer and mathematician, 1571-1630.
Kepler's discovery of Mars' elliptical orbit led to the publication in
1609 of three laws of planetary motion.
1) First law: States that a planet moves on an elliptical path with the
sun at one focus point.
2) Second law: States that a planet moves faster when closer to the sun
and slower when farther away.
3) Third law: Makes it possible to calculate a planet's relative
distance from the Sun. Specifically, the law states that the cube of a
planet's average distance from the Sun is equal to the square of the
time it takes that planet to complete its orbit.]

CONCLUSION: One of the things our Earth-based scientists learned was not
to apply Earth's laws of physics in a universal way.

Serpo was estimated to be about three billion years old. The two suns
were about five billion years old, but only by estimation.

The Eben civilization was estimated to be about 10,000 years old. They
evolved from another planet, not on Serpo. The original home planet of
the Ebens was threatened with extreme volcanic activity. The Ebens had
to relocate to Serpo in order to protect their civilization. This
occurred some 5,000 years ago.

The Ebens had a great interplanetary battle with another race about
3,000 years ago. The Ebens lost many thousands in their battle. The
Ebens completely eliminated all of their enemies. The Ebens have never
fought another war since. The Ebens have been space travelers for the
past 2,000 years. The Ebens first visited Earth about 2,000 years ago.

Why does the Eben population number only about 650,000? The Ebens have a
very stable, structured civilization. Each male has a mate. They are
allowed to reproduce (in somewhat the same sexual way we do), but are
limited to only a specific number of children. Our team never saw a
family with more than two children.

The Eben civilization was so structured that they planned the birth of
each and every child, spacing them apart to allow the proper social
grouping of the civilization. Eben children matured at a super rate,
compared to Earth children. Our team watched live births, attended to by
an Eben doctor, and then watched the development of the child over a
period of time, team member's time. They matured at an alarming rate.

The Ebens had scientists, doctors and technicians. There was one
educational facility on the planet. If one was chosen, you attended the
facility and learned the job one was best qualified and suited for.
Although it was extremely difficult to judge or measure, the team
estimated each Eben's IQ to be 165.

The Ebens had no single ruler. There was a "Council of Governors," which
the team named. This group controlled every single action on the planet.
The members of the council seemed to have been around for a long time.
Since Ebens didn't age – or at least our team couldn't detect aging
– it was difficult to judge the age of each member.

There were about 100 different villages or living locations for the
Ebens. The Ebens only used a small portion of their planet. They did
mine minerals in remote areas of the planet and had a large industrial
plant in the southern portion of the planet near a body of water. Our
team determined this plant had some sort of hydroelectrical operation.

The Ebens developed a different type of electrical and propulsion
system. It was unknown to our team and I don't think we ever really
understood it. They were able to tap into a vacuum and bring back an
enormous amount of energy from that vacuum.

Our team's living quarters, which consisted of several small buildings,
contained electricity powered by a small box. This small box supplied
all the power our team needed. Ironically, the electrical equipment our
team brought on the trip worked using their power source only.

Ebens did die. Our team members saw deaths, some from accidents and some
from natural causes. The Ebens buried the bodies, similar to our method.
Our team saw two air accidents involving their intra-planet flying
vehicle.

The Ebens worshipped a Supreme Being. It appeared to be some sort of
diety relating to the Universe. They conducted daily services, normally
at the end of the first work period. They had a building or church they
entered to worship.

Our team left Earth in a large Eben spacecraft and flew to Serpo in
approximately nine months by our team's measurement of time. Upon our
team's return, they traveled on a newer Eben craft. The time, estimated
by our team for the return, was seven months.

[MODERATOR's ADDENDUM TO ABOVE (Victor Martinez)
Project Aquarius briefing document
ABOVE TOP SECRET / MAJIC EYES ONLY
(TS/ORCON) – Most governmental documents pertaining to UFO
sightings, incidents and governmental policies, including "Project Blue
Book," have been released to the public under FOIA or under various
other release programs.
MJ-12 felt the remaining documents and information (not relating to
"Project Aquarius" relating to technological facts regarding alien
medical matters, the fact that an alien was captured alive and survived
three years under secrecy, cannot be released to the public for fear the
information would be obtained by SHIS. There was other information
obtained from EBE that was deemed sensitive and not releasable to the
public.
Notably, "Project Aquarius," Volume IX, which pertains to tracing the
alien's first visitation of Earth back some 5,000 years. EBE reported
that 2,000 years ago, his ancestors planted a human creature on earth to
assist the inhabitants of Earth in developing a civilization. This
information was only vague and the exact identity or background
information on this homo-sapien was not obtained.
Undoubtedly, if this information was released to the public, it would
cause a worldwide panic. MJ-3 has developed a plan that will allow
release of Project Aquarius, Volumes I – III.
The release program calls for a gradual release of information over a
period of time in order to condition the public for future disclosures.
Attachment 5 of this briefing contains certain guidelines for future
public releases.]

Comment (by Paul McGovern):

Sometimes the truth is hard to understand, especially by closed minded
people.

Please read Einstein's statement made to a German scientific society on
May 11, 1934. I won't actually quote him, but he said the dumbest
people in the world are the scientists who keep their minds closed to
new ideas.

You are trying to base our scientific understandings on another world.
We found a long time ago that that type of thinking blocked
progress. We could never have understood the visitor's gifts if we had
people like some trying to figure it out. We had open minded scientists
who were able to think beyond the realm of Earth-based science.

I'm no scientist, but I know enough to keep an open mind. I cannot
vouch for Victor's source's statistics, but I know he must be speaking
from knowledge because it is the same knowledge I read years ago.

Just keep an open mind, people. Once you close that mind, you are lost
in your own misguided thoughts....

The complete debriefing accounts for about three thousand pages.

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Posting Five by Anonymous (13 November, 2005)

Thank you for the cooperation you display regarding my information. Your
attention to this matter is highly and greatly appreciated. I sometime
type faster that think and thus my fingers make the grammar/spelling
errors!

My colleagues and I are discussing several different options regarding
the release of this information. First, we must obtain proper sanction
from past officials. The group called MJ-12 – which wasn't really
the group that controlled the information – but for the sake of
clarity, we'll just call them "MJ-12." The actual name of the group who
controlled, managed and oversaw the Serpo project was called ____ ____.

Many have died, but we still have a few around. We are asking their
approval for release. Next, we must obtain current official sanction.
This may be a little more difficult. Current DIA officials have very
little knowledge of this subject matter. However, we will move ahead
with our plans. Our main supporter is _____ ______ ______ , a former
director of __________. He is in our corner and will support our gradual
release plan.

The proposal by one of your readers [Bill Hamilton] regarding the Web
site is a great idea. With the cooperation of several "co-authors," we
might create a Web site and post some information on that site. Until
then, I will continue to provide the official information only through
you.

Regarding the Web site. I know we have some hurdles to overcome. Maybe
that would/wouldn't be a good first step. But we have several different
options. If Plan A doesn't work, maybe Plan B might. We have discussed
everything from an international press conference to a National Press
Club news conference.

We are also considering your suggestion of releasing 100 key pages (out
of the 3,000) to you and then your forwarding them around the country to
the six key individuals you named in your e-mail: Dr ____ ____ , Dr ____
____ , ____ ____ , ____ ____ , ____ ____ and ____ ____.

Of these individuals, I agree with you that it would be of manifest
importance to have someone like Dr ____ ____ , who has the stature and
prominence in the scientific community, come on board and "in the loop"
to not only give credibility to the programmed release, but also to
assist in explaining the complex scientific/physics theories and
principles to the layperson.

We'll let you know.

I will provide some answers to the many questions once I find them.
Remember, I have over 3,000 pages of to view and another two sizeable
volumes of other supplementary data.

I've studied the documents and debriefing data. I cannot find answers to
everyone's questions, but I did find some answers especially to those
posed by UFO thread list member, Bill Ryan.

1) I find some of the questions [from various list members] to be very
disturbing. I expected thoughfulness in the responses, rather than
criticism. The information I am providing is coming directly from
official documents. But I guess it's difficult for our Earth-based
scientists to understand something foreign to them.

The criticism being displayed by your list of scientists doesn't bother
me. I'm just stating what the official documents say. As for the
scientific calculations, our Earth-based scientists had the same
questions. Our home-based scientists questioned the collection methods
of the team. But in the end, our home-based scientists figured out that
our applied scientific principals did not always work on Planet Serpo.
Once our scientists minds were open, the calculations were made to prove
the team's data.

2) One of the principal home-based scientists (astronomer) contracted to
assist us was Dr. Carl Edward Sagan. Initially, he was the biggest
skeptic of the group. But as information was slowly analyzed, Dr. Sagan
came back to the middle. I can't say he fully accepted every single
piece of data, but he did agree on the final report.

3) Lively discussions brings out some very interesting questions. Some
of which I cannot find answers to. Although our team spent over a decade
(our time) on Serpo and nearby planets, they did not have a laptop
computer to enter all data. They had two recorders, who were responsible
for writing down the data. Our team acknowledged that a lot of data was
lost or not documented.

[Bill Ryan's questions]

4) Regarding Time: The Team Members brought several time pieces, e.g.,
wrist watches, non-battery style, as it stated in the debriefing data.
The time pieces worked, but they had no reference to time since the Eben
days were longer, the dusk and dawn periods were longer and they had no
calenders to reference.
They did use the time pieces to calculate movement, for example, timing
the movement of the Eben two suns. They also calculated the time between
work and rest periods. But, after awhile, the team discarded their time
pieces and used the Eben's measurement of time periods. The team became
confused with the calenders they brought – a 10-year calender.

After 24 months, the team lost track of time, as to the calender since
they could not properly calculate days compared to Earth days. They set
up one large clock to the earth time when they left. However, this was a
battery-controlled clock and when the battery died, the clock stopped
and they forgot to change the battery in time. Consequently, they lost
the earth time. The team brought a large quantity of batteries, but they
ran out after about five years. The Ebens had no comparable item like
batteries.

5) They also took electric razors, coffee pots, electric heaters, a DIM
(no explanation as to what this was), an electric IBM typewriter, a
scientific calculator, slide rules (both conventional and scientific),
Base Data Collection Recorder (BDCR), three different sized telescopes,
tangents, both conventional and electrical.
The list goes on and on. But they took about everything they were
allowed to take, as to weight. The Ebens did weigh the equipment taken
by our team. The weight limit was 4.5 tons or 9,000 lbs. As for food,
the team took C-Rations, military style. They carefully planned for 10
years.

6) Another question pertained to the team make up. Why were only two
females taken?

If one considers the monumental problem associated with picking a team
of 12 people, where each person must be totally erased from the military
system – no family ties, no spouses and no children – one can
see the difficulty that the selection group had. The selection group
picked the best team members from a limited pool of military people.

The original selection group picked 158 people. The final 12 were
selected from that number. If you consider the psychological, medical
and other tests that had to be administered, the final 12 were the best
qualified from the original number. Why they chose two females was never
written. Apparently, those two females were the best qualified in their
individual speciality: a doctor and a linguist.

7) How did the Ebens advance so quickly? Nothing was written about this.
But Earth-based scientists surmised that since the Eben culture
consisted of just one species, their advancement excelled and
accelerated more rapidly than a civilization that consisted of different
species, different languages, etc.

8) Why are there only 650,000 in the Eben civilization?

Again, the team never found the answer except that many hundreds of
thousands of Ebens died in The Great War. Earth-based social behavior
specialists surmised that the Eben civilization was structured to
accommodate their own needs. Our team did find limited supplies of
commodities on their planet. Large buildings were used to harvest food
products.

The soil wasn't rich in a lot of minerals. Ebens used a form of organic
agriculture to harvest food items. Maybe the Ebens were scared that if
they over populated the planet, they couldn't provide for their
citizens. This is only my idea, and not anything written in the official
records.

9) As to the Eben culture: They had a form of musical entertainment. The
music sounded like tonal rhythms. They also listened to a type of
chanting. The Ebens were dancers. They celebrated certain work periods
with a ritual dance. The Ebens would form a circle and dance around,
listening to the chanting type of music. The music was played on bells
and drums, or something similar to them.

There were no televisions, radio stations or anything like that. The
Ebens played a game, something like soccer, but with a larger ball. The
object was to kick the ball down a field into a goal. The game had very
strange rules and played for long periods of time. They also had another
game, mostly played by the children, that consisted of making formations
with groups of Ebens. They seemed to really enjoy the game, but our team
found little understanding of the game.

Athough the Eben civilization had no televisions, radios, etc., each
Eben had a small device belted to their waists. This device gave orders
to perform a particular task, news of pending events, etc. The device
displayed a screen, similar to a television screen but in a 3-D style
format. Our team brought back one of these devices. (I think today, we
could compare it to a palm pilot.)

10) The Eben's energy device was analyzed over and over again by our
team. Since our team did not have access to scientific microscopes or
other measuring equipment, we could not understand the function of the
energy device.

But, regardless of the electrical demand, the Eben energy device
provided the proper current and wattage. Out team surmised the device
had some sort of regulator that sensed the required current/wattage and
then supplied that specific amount. (Note: Our Team Members brought back
two energy devices for analysis.)

11) Serpo moved around one sun only. The other sun was within the two
orbits. As I said before, there are hundreds of pages of calculations in
the debriefing explaining all of this.

12) Why some Team Members remained!

The debriefing reported that the Team Members who remained, did so
voluntarily. They fell in love with the culture of the Ebens and the
planet. They were not ordered to return. Communication with the
remaining crew members lasted until about 1988. No other communication
was received from those Team Members. The two – who died on the
Planet Serpo – were placed in coffins and buried. Their bodies were
returned to Earth.

13) Each Team Member received a large dose or radiation during their
stay on Serpo. Most of the Team Members died later of radiation-related
illnesses.

14) The Ebens fought a battle with an enemy for a period of time. Our
Team Members estimated the war lasted about 100 years, but, again, that
is our time. The war was fought using particle beam weapons, developed
by both civilizations. The Ebens eventually were able to destroy the
enemy planet, killing the remaining enemy forces.

The Ebens did warn us that several other alien races within our galaxy
were hostile. The Ebens stay away from those races. The debriefing
document never stated the name of the enemy, probably because they no
longer existed.

[FAST FACTS ON Dr CARL E SAGAN: (Victor Martinez)
Born in Brooklyn, NY on 11-9-'34 and died in Seattle, WA on 12-20-'96 of
bone marrow cancer. He was an American astronomer, educator and
planetary scientist and was the Director of the Laboratory for Planetary
Studies at Cornell University.
CONNECTING THE DOTS: "Project SERPO's" final report was written in 1980
with Dr Sagan having been brought in half way through the project. It is
believed that he wrote his 1985 bestseller, CONTACT, based on his
insider knowledge of the most secret project in human history: a
human-alien exchange program of which he signed off on its final report!
Years later, his book was made into the 1997 movie CONTACT starring
Jodie Foster.]

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Posting Six by Anonymous (14 November, 2005)

You will be honored one day for providing assistance in our release of
information. Many thanks.

I do not feel that a dialogue or argument with non-believers would
benefit our cause. They have the right to critizice our information, but
none of them will ever be involved in the final process.

This was a gigantic problem, to say the least. It took our linguist
specialists several years to adequately establish a form of
communication with the Ebens. A group of Ebens learned to understand
English and a few other Earth languages.

This group contained the "Travelers," as our team called them. Our Team
Members connected themselves with the Travelers. Although the Team
couldn't always understand their responses, the Eben travelers
understood our Team, most of the time. During this time period, the only
exchange of information was simple.

The Ebens, not being able to completely explain something to our team,
used a form of sign language by pointing to the object or item they
wished to explain and made hand movements. Our team, two members,
eventually grasped that method of communication. However, our Team
didn't receive much information from the Ebens during this time period.

The Travelers (the very few who understood English numbered about 30)
did not fully understand all words in our language. Later, the Ebens
called our language too complicated and difficult to understand. We
eventually determined the Eben Tonal Language to be very complicated and
extremely hard to translate. We were able to record their language and
then play it back, listening to each Tonal dialect and each tonal bar.

Eventually we crudely translated some of the languge. We started with
simple items, for example, the flying object that they used to travel
around their planet on. Then things like houses, roads, food, clothing,
their suns, their planet, etc. Although we did establish some form of
communication, it was crude and not always helpful for our Team when
something complicated happened.

For example, when our first Team Member died in an accident, it was hard
to communicate with the Ebens. The member died instantly, therefore, no
medical care was provided. Our two doctors examined the Member's body
and determined the injuries were consistent with an accidental fall.
Initially, the Ebens never interfered with our care or offered to
provide any of their medical care.

However, once the Ebens – a very benevolent and caring people –
saw our team members crying, the Ebens stepped in and offered to attempt
some sort of medical care. Although our doctors felt the Team Member was
medically dead, they allowed the Ebens to try their own medical care.
Most of this was either through sign language or speaking to the
Travelers who could understand some English.

The Ebens transported the Team Member's body to a remote area of the
largest community. They took the body into a large building, apparently
their hospital or medical center. The Ebens used a large examination
table to view the body. The Ebens ran a large bluish-green light beam
over the body. The Ebens watched a display, that appeared on a large
screen that looked like a television screen. The readouts were in the
Eben written language and thus our team could not understand it.

However, there was a graphic display, similar to a heat beat graph. The
solid line was not wavering. Our doctors understood that meant the same
thing that their equipment measured: the heart was not beating. The
Ebens administered some liquid through a needle. This was done several
times. Eventually, the heart started beating.

But our doctors knew the internal organs of the body were damaged, but
couldn't fully explain that to the Ebens. The Ebens finally made a sign,
placing both their hands to the chest and bowing their heads. Our team
members knew that meant the body was dead and nothing could be done.

The Ebens showed affection to our Team. During the last work period, the
Ebens had a ceremony for the dead Team Member, the same ceremony used
when an Eben died. Our team held their own service, attended by the
Ebens. The Ebens were extremely curious about our religious service. One
Team Member, who was acting as a minister, performed a death service.
Our Team was eternally greatful for the Eben's caring attitude for our
dead friend.

The Ebens live in a very simple society. The individual Eben family
contained a male, female and at least one child. Our team did find some
families with as many as four children. We later learned those families
were caring for children of Ebens who were either on Traveling Missions
(exploring the universe) or dead Ebens.

Our Team witnessed an aircraft accident that killed four Ebens. The
Ebens performed a form of ritual at the crash site. The Ebens
transported the bodies to a medical facility and examined the bodies.
Our Team Members were always allowed to accompany the Ebens, except
during rest period, when the Ebens closed their doors for privacy.

Our Team Members saw the sorrow in the eyes of the Ebens during the
death of their own. Later, after the last work period of the day, the
Eben's had a "funeral," at least that is what our Team concluded it was.
The Eben bodies were wrapped in a white cloth. Several types of liquids
were poured over the bodies. Large numbers of Ebens would stand in a
circle, chanting.

The sounds became almost nauseating to our Team Members. The ceremony
lasted for a long time. Finally, the bodies were placed in metal
containers and buried in a remote location away from the communities.
After the burial, the Ebens had a feast. Large tables of food were
brought out and everyone ate, danced and played games. This occurred at
every Eben death witnessed by our team.

The individual Eben family lived a simple life. Their homes were
constructed of clay, some type of material similar to wood, and some
metal. The houses all looked the same. They appeared to be something
from the Southwest, looking like adobe. The interior of the house
consisted of four rooms. One sleeping room where all Ebens slept in the
same room on mats, a food preparation room (kitchen), a family room (the
largest in the house) and a small waste room.

This brought up an interesting point for our Team. The Ebens did not
have a physiological need to release body wastes as we did. The Eben's
had small collection locations in the residence for their body wastes.
But the Eben's body was extremely efficient in processing all food taken
in. Their body wastes consisted of a small amount of fecal matter,
similar to a small cat dropping.

Our Team Members never saw any urine excretion from an Eben. On the
other hand, our Team Member's wastes consisted of bulk quantity of both
fecal matter and urine. The Ebens had to dig large waste reception sites
for our 12 Team Member's waste. The Ebens accommodated our team.

Food, as I mentioned previously, was a problem for our Team Members. Our
Team consummed mostly military-style C-Rations, but eventually had to
switch to Eben food. The Ebens had a variety of food items. They grew
vegatables. Our Team found items similar to potatoes, but they tasted
different. They had some type of lettuce, turnips, and tomatoes. They
were the only items similar to ours. The Eben's had other vegatables
grown.

These were strange looking round items with long vines. The Ebens cooked
the vines and ate the large portion of the plant raw. The Ebens had some
type of white liquid, which we first thought was a form of milk. But
after tasting it, our Team realized it was different, both in taste and
content. The liquid came from a small tree located in the northern
portion of the planet. The Eben's literelly milked the tree for the
liquid. It appeared to be some sort of pleasure to drink the stuff.

Our Team Members never got a real "taste" for the liquid. The Ebens
cooked food. They make pots of stew, which was extremely tasteless to
our team. We used a lot of salt and pepper. They also baked a form of
bread. It was non-yeast bread and tasted fairly good, but caused extreme
constipation to our Team Members. We had to drink large quantities of
water in order to digest the bread.

The one common food that Ebens and our Team Members liked was the fruit.
The Ebens ate a great quantity of fruit. The fruit, although different
from anything we saw, was sweet. Some of the fruit tasted something like
mellons, while others tasted like apples.

Another problem was water. The water on Serpo contained a number of
unknown chemicals found by our team. Our Team eventually had to boil the
water before drinking it. Seeing this, the Ebens built a large plant
that processed water for our Team.

In our Team's final report, written by the commander (Colonel), the
report states that during the exchange period (he was careful not to use
exact time periods), the Team was able to communicate with the Ebens
about 50% of the time. There were some things we were never able to
communicate.

Our Team brought along softball equipment for sporting activity. The
Ebens would watch the game and laugh out loud. (The Eben laugh sounded
like a high pitched yell.) Eventually, the Ebens started playing the
game, but never got used to catching the ball before it hit the ground.

Our Team also played touch football. Again, the Ebens watched the game
intensely and then played it themselves. But again, like softball, the
Ebens never figured out they had to catch the football before it hit the
ground!

Although our Team Members honored the privacy of the Ebens, our Team was
allowed to witness births. Our team, snooping aroud, was able to capture
the sexual activity of the Ebens. The males and females had similar
sexual organs and performed intercourse. The frequency of sexual
activity was not recorded as being as often as our society performed. It
was believed that they performed the act for pleasure and reproduction.

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Posting Seven by Anonymous (17 November, 2005)

Here are some geological facts regarding Serpo our Team Members
compiled:

The planet's diameter was measured at about 7,218 miles.

The surface gravity was 9.60m/s2.

The rotation periods was approximately 43 hours.

Our Team contained two geologists (they were also cross-trained as
biologists). The first thing our geologists did was map the entire
planet. The first step was to divide the planet in half, thus creating
an Equator. Then they established a Northern Hemisphere and Southern
Hemisphere. Within each hemisphere, they created four quadrants.

Finally, they established the "North and South" Poles. This was the
easiest method to study the planet. Most of the Eben communities were
placed along the Equator. However, there were some communities
established north of the equator in each of the four quadrants in the
Northern Hemispheres. There were no communities located in either poles.
The southern pole was desert. It was barren land with virtually no
precipitation where absolutely nothing grew in this area.

There were volcanic rock formations and part of the extreme south
contained a rock desert. Temperatures in the south pole were measured at
between 90° and 135°F. Going further north from the south pole in
Quadrant 1, the Team found extrusive rocks. This indicated some volcanic
activity in the area. Our team found numerous volcanoes in this area.

The Team found several fissure eruptions in this region, with standing
water. The water was tested and contained high levels of sulfur, zinc,
copper and other unknown chemicals. Moving from east to Quadrant 2, the
Team found basically the same volcanic fields of rocks.

However, in one particular location near the north end of Quadrant 2,
the Team found an Alkali Flat. On Earth, these were formed by streams
flowing into a desert or arid location. Our team found hard mud covered
by alkaline salts. Some vegetation was growing in this area.

Moving to Quadrant 3, the Team found a form of Badlands: An arid region
that is lined with deep gullies with sparse vegetation. The gullies or
valleys were extremely deep, some going down 3,000 feet.

The team found the first Serpo animal in this region. It looked like an
armadillo. This creature was extremely hostile and tried to attack the
Team several times. The Eben guide used some type of sound device
(sonic-directed sound beam) to scare away the creature.

Moving to the Equatorial region, our team found desert-style landscapes
which contained patches of vegetation. The team found numerous pockets
of water fed to the ground by Artesian Wells. This water was the
freshest, containing only the unknown chemicals. It tasted good and the
Ebens drank and used it. Our team still boiled it because during culture
tests, unknown types of bacteria were detected.

Moving to the Northern Hemisphere, the Team found a major change in
climate and landscape. One Team Member, who had coined it Quadrant 1, in
the northern hemisphere, named it "Little Montana." The Team found
trees, similar to the Evergreen style of Earth trees. These trees were
milked by the Ebens. A white fluid was extracted and drank.

Numerous other types of vegetation was found in this region. Standing
water, possibly fed by either Artesian Wells or fissure eruptions was
found. In one area, marsh lands were seen. Large plants were observed
growing in the marshy area. The Ebens used these plants for food. The
bulb of the plant was very large. The bulb tasted something like a
mellon.

Our Team eventually moved to an area in Quadrant 1 in the northern
hemisphere. This area contained moderate temperatures [50° - 80°]
and ample amounts of shade. The Eben's built a little community for the
team. Most of the remaining exploration of the planet was done from this
point. The Team only explored the southern hemisphere once, obtaining
geological information.

Because of the intense heat, the Team decided not to venture back. The
Team continued to explore the northern hemisphere, where, as the Team
traveled towards the north pole, the temperature cooled considerably.
The Team found mountains, raising to an elevation of 15,000 feet and
valleys that sank below the basic mark the team established for "sea
level." Lush green fields were found containing a form of grass, but
contained bulbs. The Team coined these fields, "Clover Fields," even
though the bulbs were not clover.

The radiation levels were lower in the northern hemisphere than at the
Equator and southern hemisphere. The north pole contained cold weather
and the team saw the first sign of snow. Blankets of snow littered the
landscape around the north pole. The snow measured about 20 feet, at its
deepest.

The temperature was a constant 33°. Our Team never found the
temperature to vary in this region. The Ebens could not stand to be in
this region for long. They suffered extreme hypothermia. The Team's
guide wore a suit, similar to a space suit with built in heaters.

Our Team found evidence of past earthquakes. Fault lines were found
along the northern tip of the southern hemisphere. Exfoliation was
observed along with extrusive rocks, which indicated magma flows in the
past.

Our Team brought back hundreds of samples of Serpo soil, vegetation,
water and other items for testing on Earth. During our Team's
exploration, they discovered numerous types of animals. The strangest
was the "Beast" which looked like a large Ox. The animal was timid and
never seen to be hostile.

Another animal looked like a Mountain Lion, but had long fur around the
neck. This animal was curious, but was not considered hostile by the
Ebens.

During the exploration of Quadrant 4 of the southern hemisphere, the
team found a very long and large creature that appeared to be a snake.
This creature was "deadly," as explained by the Ebens. The head of the
creature was large and contained almost human-like eyes. This was the
only time our Team used their weapons and killed the creature.

The Ebens didn't appear to be upset that the Team killed the creature,
but was upset they used a weapon. The team brought four .45 caliber Colt
(standard military issued) handguns and four M2 carbine rifles. After
killing the creature, the team disected it. The internal organs were
strange and nothing similar to a Earth-style snake. The creature
measured 15 feet long and 1.5 feet in diameter. The team was curious
about the eyes.

Examination of the eyes revealed cones, similar to human eyes. The eye
contained an iris and the back contained a large nerve, similar to the
optic nerve feeding into the creature's brain. The brain was large, much
larger than any Earth-based snake. The Team wanted to eat the meat from
the creature, but the Eben guides politely told them "No."

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Posting by Anonymous (18 November, 2005)

[In response to specific questions]

The bodies of water on Serpo did not contain fish, as we know. Some
bodies, near the equator, did contain strange-looking creatures, similar
to eels (small and about 8–10" long) and was probably a cousin of
the land-based "Snake." There was something like a jungle, near the
marshlands, but not the jungles that we're familiar with.

Regarding the weapons: There was a lengthy discussion about weapons. At
the end, the Ebens didn't really care. So our Team Members decided to
take some just in case. Not for a fight, God knows, as our Team was
vastly outnumbered, but for the safety aspects of it. Remember, the 12
were all military members, so weapons made them FEEL safe. A side note:
They only took 50 rounds of ammunication per handgun and 100 rounds of
ammunition per rifle.

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Posting by Anonymous (20 November, 2005)

After reading Dr. Sagan's remarks on the Serpo project, which is about
60 jam-packed pages of calculations, I found one paragraph which states
that in order to use Kepler's law – in the case of Planet Serpo
– one had to vary the exact gravitational pull placed on Serpo by
the two suns. Serpo did not have large planets, like Jupiter and Saturn
to affect the gravitational pull as the Earth does. Serpo's
gravitational pull was different than anything Dr. Sagan had ever seen
before.

There are numerous figures and calculations to support this. I will
forward them at a later date. Have your list stay tuned.

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Posting by Anonymous (25 November, 2005)

In response to the intensive ongoing debate recorded in the Comments
section of this site, I would like to endorse this clarification from a
prominent physicist on the list:

The senior theory (essentially proven) is Newton's inverse square law
for gravity. For a simple system, Kepler's Laws are a fallout of what a
planetary solution looks like (for the simple case of a single planet
circling a massive sun). For a complex situation (like a planet
interacting with two suns, several planets, or whatever) you have to go
back to Newton's law and solve a many-body problem which takes a
computer. In this case Kepler's Laws are only an approximation, since
they hold only for the simplest case.

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Posting Eight by Anonymous (29 November, 2005)

I decided to concentrate this release on the "Team" and their selection
process, communication problems and the final exchange. There have been
many questions pertaining to these issues.

BACKGROUND : Ebe #1 provided a communication device that allowed us to
contact Serpo. This communication device was onboard the Eben craft that
crashed in July 1947 near Corona, New Mexico. Ebe #1 showed us the
proper use of this communication device prior to his death.

However, the device did not function properly and no contact could be
made with Serpo. Just prior to Ebe #1's death, an American scientist
from Los Alamos figured out the device worked and connected an energy
source found in the Eben craft to the communication device. With Ebe#1's
assistance and language input, several signals were sent during the
summer of 1952. In early fall of 1952, we received several signals on
the device.

Ebe #1 translated the messages and provided us with that information.
Ebe #1 sent six messages.
— The first message was just letting his planet know he was alive;
— The second message explained the crash in 1947 and the death of
his crew;
— The third message asked for a rescue craft for him;
— The fourth message suggested a formal meeting with leaders of
Earth;
— The fifth message suggested an exchange program;
(NOTE: It is believed, but NOT documented, that Ebe #1's U.S. military
caretaker had suggested to Ebe #1 that an exchange program be set up
which would allow our people to visit and exchange culture, scientific
information and collect astronomical during a space trip by an American
military team or what eventually became known as The Team Members.)
— The sixth message provided landing coordinates for any future
rescue or visitation mission to Earth. The incoming messages gave a time
and date (Eben date and time system), and confirmed a landing location.
However, once the message was translated by Ebe #1, it was determined
the date was over 10 years away. Fearing that Ebe #1, who was sick at
this point, did not translate the message correctly, our scientists
began to translate the message, based on the Eben language that was
taught to us by Ebe #1.

(NOTE: Ebe #1 was a mechanic, not a scientist. He was still able to
teach us some of the Eben language. According to the document which I
read, we translated about 30% of the Eben language. Complex sentences
and numbers could not be recognized.)

Ebe #1 assisted us as long as he was alive. But once he died, then we
were on our own. We sent several messages over a six-month period
(1953). But we did not receive any return messages. We fine tuned our
efforts over the next 18 months and finally sent two messages in 1955
and received a reply.

We were able to translate about 30% of the messages. We turned to
several linguist specialists from several U.S. universities and even
several from foreign universities. Finally, we were able to translate
most of the messages. We decided to reply in English and see if the
Eben's could translate our language easier than we could theirs.
Approximately four months later, we received a reply in broken English.
Sentences that contained nouns, adjectives, but no verbs. It took us
several months to translate the messages. We then sent Eben our typed
English lessons. Six months later, we received another English message.
This time it was clearer, but not clear enough. Ebens were confusing
several different English words and still failed to complete a proper
sentence.

But we were able to provide the basic skill level for them to
communicate in English. In one message, they provided us with a form of
the Eben alphabet, with the equivalent English letter. Our linguist
specialist had a very difficult time figuring this out. The written Eben
language was simple characters and symbols, but our linguist specialist
had an extremely difficult time comparing the two written languages.
Over the next five years, we were able to perfect our understanding of
the Eben language (somewhat) and the Ebens were able to better
understand English. However, we had a major problem. Trying to
coordinate a date, time and location for an Eben landing on Earth. Even
though we could basically understand some Eben and the Ebens could
understand some English, we could not understand their time and date
system and they could not understand ours. We sent them our Earth's
rotation schedule, revolution, date system, etc. For some reason, the
Eben's never understood this.

In return, the Ebens sent us their system, which was difficult for our
scientists to understand because we had no reference to their planet.
The Ebens did not explain any astronomical data of Serpo or their
system. We then decided to just send pictures showing the Earth,
landmarks and a simple numbering system for time periods.

The Ebens sent back a message indicating they would return to Earth on a
particular number date and location that we chose. The date was April
24, 1964 and the location was in the southern sector of White Sands
Missile Range, New Mexico.

Now, our Government officials met in secret to plan the event. Decisions
were made, then changed and then changed again. We had just about 25
months to plan for the event. Special teams, mostly military, were
formed to plan the event.

Several months into the planning process, President Kennedy decided to
approve a plan to exchange a special military team. The USAF was tasked
as the lead agency. The USAF officials picked special civilian
scientists to assist in planning and crew selection.

The Team Member selection process was the hardest to accomplish. Several
plans were suggested in the make-up of the team. It took several months
for the planners to decide on criteria for each Team Member. They
decided that each Team Member must be military. They must be single,
with no children. They must be career military (over four years of
service). They must have special skills.

They must have cross-trained skills, meaning that they must have more
than one speciality. They must be entirely "sheep dipped" and cleared of
any identification problems that would haunt them while on the trip. One
suggestion was to list all members as being dead. This was thrown around
until it was decided each Team Member selected would be listed as
"missing" on the official records and discharged on the unofficial
records. That way, all connections between the team and their individual
service was covered.

Every single record on each Team Member selected was purged, including
their Social Security records, Internal Revenue tax returns, medical
records, military records, and any other identification records were
either destroyed or collected and placed in a special storage location.
Originally, about 56,000 files were screened for possible selectees. The
screening process finally got down to 12. These were the best of the
best. During training, which lasted roughly six months, there were 16
going through training. The four were replacements just in case one of
the originals was injured or released for some other reason.

TEAM TRAINING: Each Team Member selected was sent to a special facility
located at Camp Perry, Virginia. This was an intelligence training
location. We took over a complete complex inside Perry. Most of the
training took place there, but some special training was accomplished at
Sheppard Air Force Base, Wichita Falls Texas; Ellsworth AFB, South
Dakota; Dow AFB, Maine; and isolated locations in Mexico and Chile. The
training lasted for 167 days. The Team was allowed about 15 days off
during this time period, but they were closely guarded. Just prior to
their trip, each team member was transported to the United States
Disciplinary Barracks, Ft. Leavenworth, KS and confined in locked cells.
This prevented them from communicating with anyone from the outside
world and kept each under close watch.

CHANGE OF PLANS: We received a message from the Ebens stating that they
did not wish to make the exchange during their initial visit to Earth.
They wanted to meet first and then plan the exchange in person. This
created many problems since our Team was ready for the exchange. We sent
a return message, but we did not receive a reply.

THE LANDING: In December 1963, the Eben's sent a message confirming the
time, date and location of their landing. The message stated that two
crafts were enroute to Earth and would make the appropriate landing at
the pre-arranged location.

(NOTE: During this time period, our government was suffering from the
loss of President Kennedy. Some on the project wanted to cancel the
exchange because of his death. But President Johnson was briefed and
decided to continue the event, although, it was noted, that Johnson
didn't really believe it would happen.)

Our Team planned for two locations. One "cover" location on Holloman Air
Force Base near Alamogordo, New Mexico and the other, which would be the
actual landing location, was west of Holloman near the southern entrance
to White Sands Army Post.

The first Eben craft entered our atmosphere during the afternoon of
April 24, 1964. the Eben craft landed at the wrong location, near
Socorro, New Mexico. Our team was in place at White Sands. We were able
to communicate a message to the Eben craft that they landed at the wrong
location. The second Eben craft picked up the message and landed at the
correct location.

MEETING: The Eben craft landed exactly at the location we sent. There
were 16 senior U.S. Government officials on the ground. Some were
political and some were senior officials, including military officers.
The Ebens exited their craft and walked under a pre-located canopy. The
Ebens gave gifts of their technology. The Ebens had a crude translator
device. It appeared to be some sort of microphone with a read-out
screen.

The senior U.S. official was given one of the devices and the Eben kept
the other one. The officials spoke into the device and the screen showed
a printed form of the voice message, both in Eben and English. It was
crude and hard to understand everything that was said. The exact
transcript of the meeting won't be discussed at this time. The Ebens
decided to make the exchange, but not until the following year. July
1965 was set and the location decided upon was the Nevada Test Site.
Planners did not wish to keep the same location for fear that something
might leak.

The Team Members were kept at Ft. Leavenworth until May 1964. They were
transported to Camp Perry. The Team was isolated for the next six
months, going over the same training they received. Fine tunning their
individual skills and learning some newer skills. This gave the team an
opportunity to better understand the Eben language. Although most team
members had difficulty learning the language, the two linguists on the
team were able to hone their language skills.

In April 1965, the team was transported to Ft. Leavenworth and confined
until July 1965, when they were transported to Nevada. During the
exchange, only a selected few officials were present, other than the
preparation crew for the exchange team. The Eben craft landed and our
Team was placed on board.

(NOTE: One item that was misstated by me in an earlier e-mail, was the
amount of equipment that was taken to Planet Serpo by our Team Members.
The correct amount loaded on board the Eben crafts was 90,500 lbs of
equipment.)

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Posting Nine by Anonymous (30 November, 2005)

Each Team Member had to endure extreme psychological and physical
training. In one training test, each Team Member was locked inside a 5'
x 7' box buried seven feet underground for five days, with just food and
water, no contact with anyone else and in total darkness. This tested
several factors.

Each Team Member also took a "pill" with them. The pill was standard
issue for intelligence agents operating behind enemy lines. The pill
could end their life if, for some reason, the Ebens turned out to be
hostile.

Several selected Team Members (pilots) were trained on flying an Eben
craft, one of which was the one captured near western New Mexico in
1949. The plan called for these selected few to fly the craft back to
Earth in case of an emergency.

There were four pilots on the team. These four spent many weeks at the
Nevada complex learning to fly the recovered Eben alien craft. It wasn't
hard to fly, once one could understand the operation of the controls.
I'm sure many of the UFO sightings back in 1964/'65 around the West
could be attributed to these test flights by our Team Members. Selected
Team Members carried small containers of liquid nitrogen. Ebens were
vulnerable to extreme cold. In case the Eben's turned hostile, the
liquid nitrogen could be used to neutralize Ebens during an escape
attempt. The Team Members were instructed to spray the substance
directly into the face of an Eben. Ebe #1 was found to be vulnerable to
this.

As for the liquid nitrogen matter. The liquid nitrogen was placed in
special containers, just like we do today. The debriefing document
doesn't state the type of containers, just that each member had a small
container.

However, during the return debriefing, the Team found the Ebens to be so
docile, each Team Member quickly discarded these bottles of liquid
nitrogen when they arrived on Serpo. The Ebens realized the Team had
this substance, but never questioned the reason for bringing it.

As with weapons, each Team Member had a handgun and rifle. The Ebens
realized these were weapons, but again never questioned why the Team
Members were bringing them along.

But each Team Member never carried the weapons except during their
exploration of Serpo and then only certain Team Members carried them.

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Posting Ten by Anonymous (2 December, 2005)

Here is some "beef" that Gene [Loscowski] wanted regarding the Team
Member's training.
After the extensive selection process, each Team Member had to
demonstrate their abilities to endure hardship, which included a battery
of psychological tests, medical screenings and a PAT (Positive Attitude
Tests which is a military test given to pilots and special forces
personnel).
The training consisted of the following:
1. Introduction to Space Exploration (taught by NASA personnel);
2. Astronomy, identification of stars, use of telescopes and general
astrophysics;
3. Eben anthropology (information received from Ebe #1);
4. Eben History (basic information received from Ebe #1);
5. U.S. Army Field Medical Training (trauma care). This was given to
the non-medical personnel on the Team;
6. High Altitude training – parachute and weightless/zero oxygen
environment training;
7. Survival, escape and evasion training;
8. Basic weapons and explosive training (six pounds of C-4
[Composition-4] was taken);
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9. Psychological Operations Training and anti-interrogation
preparation;
10. Small Unit Tactical Training (Mini 4-week U.S. Army Ranger Course);
11. Intelligence Gathering Course;
12. Space Geology – collection methods and use of specialized
geological equipment;
13. Physical Stress Training;
14. Methods to cope with confinement/isolation;
15. Nurtrition course;
16. Equipment use training;
17. Individual speciality training;
18. Basic Biology;
19. Other training which is still considered extremely highly classified
even after 40 years [1965 - 2005].

Humans could make the Eben tonal sounds, but one had to practice and
practice and practice. It took a long time for anyone studying the Eben
language to make the sounds. Some of the sounds were similar to high
pitch singing sounds. The bottom line is that it could be done.

Now consider this: Even though each Team Member was taught the Eben
tonal sounds/language, it was difficult for the Team Members to remember
each tone and the use of other sounds with the tones. The two linguists
on the Team practiced and learned enough to basically communicate,
according to the documents I read.

The Ebens learned English, but had difficulty pronouncing words exactly
correct. For example, according to the document, Ebens could not say the
letter "L." So, if the Eben's were trying to say the word "look," it
came out "ook."

Between the first message sent by our Earth-based team in the summer of
1952 to the first message received from the Ebens was about four months.
We have no way of knowning when the Ebens received our message, how long
it took them to study it and how long it took them to send it back. The
signals were in Eben language, with a readout and sounds, tonal, etc.
One interesting note: There was one Eben, who was a space traveller and
who could speak English better than the other Ebens who had learned it.
This Eben was codenamed "Noah" by the Team. Everytime the team had to
communicate important information, they turned to Noah. But during the
latter part of our Team's stay, Noah left for an away mission. By then,
our two linguists were able to communicate better than any other Team
Member.

QUESTION: Why didn't our Team use the Eben communication device?
ANONYMOUS: They had it, but it contained only about 500 English words.
Not enough to fully communicate. The Team discarded the device early in
their stay.

Who is "Falcon?!" I am reading from the actual debriefing documents.
There is no mention of a "Falcon." There is no mention of a "Falcon" on
the Briefing Control Access Roster. If you're referring to the 1989 TV
special, "UFOs Coverup,... LIVE!" in which a "Falcon" and a "Condor"
appeared in shadowed form, they never had access to the actual "Project
SERPO" Report.

I would guess that whomever Falcon is was spreading DISinformation.
Ebens lived on a warm planet, except the northern hemisphere, which was
cooler. Some Ebens lived in the cooler climate, but the Ebens could not
stand extreme cold.

I think one is confusing what Ebe #1 said about "our" planet. It liked
the cooler places on "our" planet. He was not referring to Serpo. Ebe #1
was a visitor on our planet and was taken to several different
locations, mostly warm. When he arrived at Los Alamos, he remarked that
he like the "cooler" climate, meaning Los Alamos in the late summer.

However, when he [Ebe #1] was taken to Washington, D.C., (very closely
controlled), the climate there (in late fall) was too cold for him. I
don't know about a "Falcon" or his/her information, but I do know the
facts surrounding Ebe #1.

QUESTION: What do you make of what Ebe #1 allegedly said about Mankind
being genetically altered throughout time and that they established
religions and Christ in particular on our planet? [An idea that was
popularized in the 1989 bestseller, "The Gods of Eden" by William
Bramley, ISBN# 0380718073]
ANONYMOUS: If one reads the "Yellow Book" [the true and correct history
of Mankind as relayed by the ETEs] and reads between the lines, one
would come away with the thought and clear impression that the Ebens had
something to do with Jesus Christ or, possibly, Jesus was one of them.
Also, if you look at some events that are shown in the "Yellow Book,"
(remember, there are no dates shown in the "Yellow Book"), you can
connect some incidents, such as Fatima, etc., with an Eben landing.

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QUESTION: Is the much ballyhooed and hyped "Alien Autopsy Film" released
by Ray Santilli real or fake?
ANONYMOUS: That film is a fake. We did perform four autopsies of the
five dead Ebens found in the Corona crash site and did photograph them,
however the bodies from the western New Mexico crash site were too
decomposed to be autopsied. But the Ray Santilli film is an absolute
100% fake.

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The "DIM" was the Duty Information Manual. It was their "bible," for all
of the information they would need. The operations plans, how to excute
the plans, emergency action procedures, etc. [BR: the meaning of the
"DIM" was supplied by another person, not Anonymous, who had detailed
knowledge of the project.]

5 December: clarification by Victor Martinez

Anonymous writes 85% of the material; another 13% comes from another
source directly connected with the project; and the final 1-2% comes
from a "ghost," who cancels his e-mail account as soon as he sends his
information. [BR: this may explain some of the apparent stylistic and
grammatical differences in the various postings.]

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Posting by Anonymous (8 December, 2005)

[Referring to Bill Ryan's 6 December radio interview on "Coast to Coast
AM with George Noory": an audio file of the interview is available here
<http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2005/12/06.html> ]
Victor: Yes, I did listen to the entire show. Never heard this guy
George Noory before, but he seemed to be a very open-minded narrator and
for that, me and my DIA colleagues were very pleased. The show caused a
lot of buzzing in the halls of the DIA!

Bill [Ryan] and Rick [Doty] both did an excellent job. I was hoping you
[Victor Martinez] might just show up and add your own comments since you
know more about me than anyone else as well as the program, but I guess
that wasn't possible.

I called Mr. _____ this morning.

[ EX U.S.G OFFICIAL WHO IS MANAGING THE CONTROLLED RELEASE OF "Project
SERPO" FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION ]

I found some discrepancies about the animals mentioned on the show.

— The Armadillo-like creature was not aggressive, it just scared the
Team Members. The Eben guide directed some type of sound (very high
pitch) at the Armadillo creature and that scared it away. These
creatures were seen at several locations around the planet. Some were
larger than others, but they were not aggressive.

— Only the snake-like creature was aggressive, which forced the Team
to kill one. The snake-like creatures were located in just one location
and the Team never saw another one.

— As for birds, there were two types of flying creatures. One
resembled a hawk and the other looked like a large flying squirrel.
Neither were aggressive and the Team could never catch one for
examination.

— As for insects, they had small bugs, similar to cockroaches, but
smaller. They were harmless, but did get into the Team's equipment. They
had a hardened shell, with a soft interior body. The Team never observed
any flying insects, such as flies, wasps, etc. Several other small bugs
were found and identified.

I was hoping Rick [Doty] would expand his knowledge of the subject
matter as he knows much more than what I heard him say. But maybe the
show was scripted and he had to follow some script or was prevented from
saying what he wanted to say by some director or producer.

[Note from Victor Martinez: The show was not scripted; only time
constraints prevented ex-AFOSI SA Doty from saying more on the air;
Anonymous was corrected by me. All participants were called in at the
last moment to fill in for a last-minute cancellation of another guest.]

Bill did a great job promoting the Web site, Serpo.org and the
information contained therein.

My next posting of information will be the actual journal entries of one
Team Member. Each Team Member was required to keep a journal. I will
provide a partial journal entry (since the journals are attachments to
the original report, they contain hundreds of pages of written entries).
I will provide a few days or possibly a week's worth of entries from one
Team Member.

Also, we are working on obtaining four photographs taken by our Team
Members of Serpo. I will scan them into my computer and then e-mail them
to you. You can send them to Bill Ryan for inclusion into the Serpo Web
site.

Don't distribute the photographs through your huge UFO thread list. Just
leave it on the Serpo.org Web site for Web site Administrator Bill Ryan
to post.

Once the public sees these photographs, even our skeptics, die-hard
debunkers and those who claim that this is all a "non-event disclosure,"
will scratch their heads in total amazement! [They're not from a
Hollywood movie set.]

— one photograph shows the entire Team standing next to an Eben
home, with several Ebens standing in the background;
— another photograph shows the Team's new home in the north;
— another photograph shows an Eben village in the north;
— another photograph shows a group of Ebens playing their "soccer"
game.

You'll love them!

One group member has a fool-proof way of sending them. I'm not sure of
the exact method, but I'll let you know just prior to his sending them.
Either they'll be sent to you (or Bill directly) in encrypted form or a
special military courier will bring them to you from a special unit
within the DIA. We'll let you know.

[BR: We don't yet know when to expect these photographs. It may be
several weeks yet – possibly even in the New Year. We ask all
readers to be patient, as we are ourselves.]

LISTENER: One niggly question on the EBENs' non-use of clocks and the
use of a tower to tell the position of the sun. Much of our avionics,
electronics, and machinery involves timing pulses. How do the EBEs even
fly a spaceship or helicopter-type craft without the use of some sort of
clock?

VICTOR: What idiot wrote this?! One must think in different terms of
science, not Earth-based but Serpo-based science. Ebens were thousands
and thousands of years more advanced than us. They had different forms
of navigation systems, which I will discuss in great detail later,
probably 2006.

Enough for now; I must go back to bed. Keep up the great work.

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Posting Eleven by Anonymous (21 December, 2005)

REGARDING OUR TEAM MEMBERS

QUESTION: If our Team Members had their identities "sheep dipped," how
did they refer to one another as?
ANONYMOUS: Each Team Member was not identified by name. Once the final
16 were selected, (remember, we had four alternates), each Team Member
got a number (three digit).

From that point on, they were identified by number only. Even each Team
Member identified the others by their three-digit number. They were
neverto use their real names. Once they left planet Earth and traveled
on to Serpo, they gave each other nicknames.

For example, the Team Commander was identified as, "Skipper," the
medical officers were identified as "Doc-1" and "Doc-2," the pilots were
identified as, "Sky-King" and "Flash-Gordon." Even though it wouldn't
make any difference if they used their real names on Serpo, they were
disciplined enough to continue either using the nicknames or the
three-digit numbers.

THE TEAM COMMANDER'S JOURNAL ENTRIES:

VICTOR: I hope you didn't lose hope and faith in me; I needed to take a
break during the holidays as I'm sure you did! I have been coordinating
this very complex subject matter with various people in the USG intell
community.

Additionally, I and the rest of the DIA-6 are working on the
photographs.

Attached for your UFO Thread List are just four pages of the Team
Commander's diary. The diary contains a large number of pages, all hand
written. It took me several days to prepare the attached four pages from
the diary.

This is the actual, verbatim diary of the Team Commander. It was started
the morning of the departure. There were code names for control
personnel and three-digit numbers for each Team Member [addressed
above]. There are other codes and abbreviations for certain things,
which is not explained.

I've typed the EXACT words, phrases and abbreviations. Nothing has been
changed. And likewise, I will ask you to not alter, change, correct any
of the text here as you often do with mine to make it grammatically
correct. This includes your use of caps to emphasize things I've
written; I ask you to not do this with these journal entries, Victor.

DAY 1

We are ready. Hard to think we finally made it. Team is motivated and
calm. Final briefing by MTC and MTB. Cargo packed in EBE craft. Might
have some problems with guns. Will be talking to the MVC. 899 and 203
will have overall charge of weapons. No sync system or we don't know
about them. Everything moving smoothly. 700 and 754 will give each
member final check before boarding.

OK, we loaded everything and it fits. But we have to transfer all of it
to the bigger ship once we get to rendevous point. Really excited about
this. No reservations by anyone. MTC asked all members to make final
decision. The team all said go. We go. Interior of Ebe craft is big.
There are three levels, this is different than the one we trained on. I
think that was a scout craft, this one is a shuttle craft.

We stored the cargo in lower level. We will sit in the center level and
the crew will sit in the upper level. Strange looking walls. They seem
to be dimensional. There are three stations, four of us will sit in each
station. No seats just benches. We wouldn't fit in those small crew
seats.

The MVC says we don't need anything special, no O2 or helmets. Don't
know what to do with them. OK, final checks. MTC gave us final words.
One pray said. We board the Ebe craft. 475 really nervous. 700 will
watch him. The hatch is closed. No windows. We can't see out. Everyone
is seated in their respective seats on the bench. No retention
harnesses. OK, well, bar across us.

The craft is starting engine, or what they call energy thrusters. Seems
like we are moving but nothing happening inside. Still able to write
this. Really dizzy now. 102 sitting next to me and he is faint.
Something feels really funny. Have to rewrite this because I can't think
straight.

DAY 1 – ENTRY 2

We made it to the rendevous craft. We don't know where we are, but it
seemed like we all fainted or was really confused during this trip.
According to my wrist watch, it took about six hours. Or maybe more. We
left at 1325 and it is 1939. But not sure of the day. We flew into the
big ship. We are standing in a bay or something.

There are many EBEs helping us. They seem to understand we are confused.
The cargo was off loaded in one big move. The platform containing the
cargo was moved without unloading the individual cargo. This ship looks
like the inside of a real big building. The ceiling is about 100 feet
high in this area of the ship.

OK, we are being moved into another part of the ship. OK, we moved to
another room or area. What a big ship. I just can't describe how big
this is. It took us about 15 minutes to walk to our area. Seems like it
is something special for us. The chairs are bigger. But there are only
10 of them. OK, I guess 203 and myself will sit in different location
above these seats.

We are moved by some sort of elevator, but I can't understand how it
worked. Everyone his hungry. We have our backpacks containing some
C-rats and I guess we eat now. But must ask the MVC. I can't find him
and we can't communicate with the two EBEs here.

They seem to be real nice. 420 will try to use his language skills.
Almost funny. Sounds like a screaming match. We just used sign language
indicating we want to eat. One of the EBE brought us a container with
something it. Doesn't look good but I think it is their food. Looks like
mush or oatmeal. 899 will taste it. Well, 899 said it tastes like paper.
Think we will all stick to C-rats.

OK, MVC finally showed up. Told us we will begin trip soon. Two mils I
think he means minutes but don't really know. Maybe it wasn't such a
good idea to eat before leaving. We don't feel any weightlessness and we
don't feel dizzy. But we don't know what to expect from this point on.
They are indicating we must sit in the chairs.

DAY 2

I'm not sure just how long we were in the containers. We sat in the
chairs and a clear container was placed over us and the chair. We were
isolated in this bubble or sphere. We could breath OK and could see out,
but we really felt dizzy and confused. I think I fell asleep or fainted.
I think this is another day, but my watch says one hour since we sat,
but I think it is the next day.

Our time instruments are located in our backpacks which are stored in
another area of this room. We are still in these spheres but it seems
OK. Well, 899 figured out how to get out because he is standing up. He
opened my sphere. Not sure if we should be out of this thing. 899 said a
EBE came in and looked at us and left. Other team members sleeping. 899
and myself walking around this room.

I retrieved the time instruments. Seems like we have been traveling
about 24 hours or so. No windows to see. Originally we were told it
would take about 270 of our days. OK, EBE came in and pointed to the
chairs, I guess we need to go back and get into them.

ENTRY

Since I am not sure of which day it is I won't state a day as to my
entry, [so] I'll just say entry. We are all sick. Dizzy, upset stomachs.
700 and 754 gave us medicine to settle our stomachs. But we really feel
bad. We seem to be unable to focus our eyes and seem to not know which
way way to turn up or down and don't know the wasy to sit down. Really
bad feeling.

Medicine helps a little we are able to eat a little. 700 and 754 tells
us to eat and drink the water we brought along we are doing that and
feel a little better can't concentrate on anything so I can't rite [sic]
anymore right now.

ENTRY

Feel a lot better. EBEs came in and did something to the room. It all
seems clearer and we are not so confused and dizzy. We ate again and
drink more water. Feeling a lot better. We are out of sphere, but must
stay in them at certain times.

EBE showed us a series of lights above the entry panel. Green, Red and
White lights. If the light is red, we must sit in sphere. If light is
white, we are OK. EBE never explained the Green light. Maybe that isn't
good.

We have no idea what day it is, only that it is 2319. Our date recorder
isn't working very well, according to 633. He thinks we have been going
for 10 days but not really sure. We have been confined to this room for
the entire time. I think this room was made for us and we are safe in
this room.

Maybe it wouldn't be wise to leave it. No weightlessness. Don't know how
they do it. But we do feel a little lightheaded when we walk. Seems room
is pressurized. Ears are popping a lot. If we have to sit in this room
for 270 days we will really be bored. We can't really do much, all our
equipment is packed away.

We have our backpacks but they only contain a few items. We want to
clean up, but can't find a bathroom except the containers we are using
to relieve ourselves. They are small metal containers that are emptied
by the EBE every now and then. EBE brings us food, their food. We tried
it and it tastes like paper really no taste but maybe it is something
special for space travel. 700 is eating it. He seems OK but it is
upsetting his bowels. Their water is milky looking but tastes like
apples. Strange. ENTRY It has been a long time since I have made an
entry. We are guessing we have been on the ship for 25 days. But we
might be off about five days. We were locked into our sphere for a long
period of time. We had to leave in order to relieve ourselves and
finally were able to open the sphere.

But when we did, we all got sick, really sick. Dizzy, confused and some
couldn't walk. We had trouble urinating and moving our bowels. 700 and
754, who ate the EBE food didn't seem to be as sick as us. They treated
us with medicine. EBE came in and pointed a blueish light on our heads.
We felt better, much better after this.

But pointed to the chairs and we figure we must get back into them. We
showed him our waste containers and pointed to the chairs in a confused
manner. He understood and then left the room. EBE came back with small
containers we could place inside the sphere.

He also brought in small jugs of the milky liquid and made a motion for
us to drink it. So we went back into the sphere and just sat there with
the waste containers and the jug of the milky stuff. We drink that and
seem to be better, except 518, who seem to be sick. But we were
cautioned to stay inside the sphere.

ENTRY I don't have any idea how long we stayed in that sphere this time.
But EBE came in and made a motion for us to come out. We were able to
move around without being dizzy or sick. EBE even allowed us to leave
the room. We walked along a very narrow hallway for a long period of
time, maybe 20 minutes. We then got into some sort of elevator, which
moved fast because we could feel the motion.

We came out into a very large room that contained many EBENS sitting in
seats. Maybe this is the control center. Our escort made a motion to go
into the room. We could see control panels which contained many lights.
There were four different stations containing six EBENs each. They were
in levels.

The top level inside this room contained just one seat. One EBEN was
seated in that chair. We figure he must be the pilot or commander. He
seemed busy with an instrument panel. There were many television
screens, but they all showed EBEN language and series of lines, both
vertical and horizontal. Maybe some sort of graph.

We were able to wander around without any EBEN bothering us. 633 and 661
were really interested in this. 633 seemed better. There was one window.
But we could see anything. It was dark but we could make out wavy lines.
Maybe some sort of distortion in time. We must be moving faster that
light speed, but we can't see anything out the window.

OK, MVC finally arrived. He explains in broken english, that we are
halfway to home planet. Everything is functioning properly and we all
will feel better once the craft gets out of this time wave, as he calls
it. MVC says we can walk around any part of the ship, but we must stay
together.

We must be shown how to operate the movement centers. We are thinking he
is referring to the elevators. It seems simple, just placing your hand
over one of the operating lights. White and red. White moves it and red
stops it. We hear some type of ringing sound, but MVC says it is only
space sounds. Whatever he means by that. We were able to walk around the
ship, but it is so large it is difficult to understand how such a large
ship can move so fast.

633 wants to see the engines. MVC takes four of us to the engine room or
whatever they wish to call the room. It contains large, very large metal
containers. They are in a circle, with the ends of each pointing into
the center. Many pipes or some type of large tubes connects them.

In the center of these containers is a copper colored coil or something
looking like a coil. There is a bright light being shined from a point
above into the center of the coil. We hear a very dull hum, but no major
loud sounds. 661 thinks it is a negative matter versus positive matter
system.

[ END JOURNAL ENTRIES FROM TEAM COMMANDER ]

QUESTION: Please explain, for the enlightenment of all, the Eben Energy
Device (ED) found at the crash site.

ANONYMOUS: OK, I will answer this question. Dimensions: 9" x 11" x 1.5",
weight 26.7 oz. The ED [Energy Device] is clear and made of something
similar to hard plastic.

On the bottom left, there is a small square metal plate, possibly a
chip. It is one of the connector points.

On the bottom right, there is another small square metal point, which is
the second connector point.

Viewed from an electron microscope, the ED contains small
circular-shaped bubbles. Within these bubbles are extremely minute small
particles. When a demand for electric power is applied to the ED, the
particles always move clockwise at a great speed, not measurable. There
is also some type of unidentified fluid located around the bubbles. When
a demand is placed on the ED, this fluid turns from a clear color to a
hazy pink color. The fluid becomes warm between 102° - 115° F.

However, the little bubbles would not heat up, ONLY the fluid. The
bubbles maintained a constant temperature of 72° F. The boundary of
the ED contains small (micron sized) wires. When a demand is placed on
the ED, the wires expand in size. This expanding process depended on the
amount of demand placed on the ED. We did extensive, exhaustive
experimentation with the ED. We could power everything from a 0.5 watt
bulb to an entire house.

The ED automatically detects the required demand and then outputs that
exact amount. It worked on everything electrical except equipment that
contained a magnetic field. Somehow, our magnetic field interferes with
the output demand of the ED. However, we have developed a shielding
process to correct this.

I won't go into all the scientific nomenclature at this time [due to
national security implications]. This is just the basic information on
the ED, which is what a reader wanted to know.

Interestingly, when our recovery team first found the ED, they thought
it was a window because of its clear plastic-like qualities. Ebe #1 had
to show us how it worked. It still took us many years to fully
understand the ED's operational qualities. I'm sure we fully understand
everything about it today, BUT that isn't written in the final [Serpo]
report.

REGARDING EBENS #1 - #5:

Ebe #1 was the crash survivor from the craft found in Corona, NM in
July, 1947.

Ebe #2 was the first exchange of an Eben scientist and was the second
visitor left on Earth. I don't know the exact time period of his stay.

Ebe #3 was a female scientist.

J-ROD was a cloned Eben, created by the Ebens, who came as another type
of visitor. J-ROD is a very complicated matter and the entire story will
never be made public. The exact type of entity J-ROD was shall remain
classified as "Above Top Secret."

Let your exclusive UFO Thread List membership know that this subject
matter is closed and no future questions regarding this topic will be
addressed.

Why s/he or it was named J-ROD is classified. People have speculated
about that, and officially it means something, but that information
shall remain shielded from the public domain.

President Bill Clinton wanted to continue the exchange program, but
others in his administration thought it would be a mistake and overruled
him. It was terminated in 1994 with Ebe #5.

QUESTION: UFO author Whitley Strieber claims to have been contacted by a
man claiming that he was part of a human-alien exchange program in the
'60s. Was Whitley "played" or did he actually meet one of the Team
Members?
ANONYMOUS: The guy who approached Whitley Strieber in 1989-90, was a
Team Member. We know him and knew the contact he made with Strieber, not
once, not twice, but three times.

All surviving Team Members were carefully monitored and watched by a
special branch of the DIA. The last surviving Team Member died in 2002
in the State of Florida.

QUESTION FROM ROBERT STANLEY:

VICTOR: Can you give me more details re this statement?

"However, when he [Ebe #1] was taken to Washington, D.C. (very closely
controlled), the climate there (in late fall) was too cold for him."

— When did this occur?
— How long was EBE #1 there?
— Where did he stay?

Thank you.
ROBERT STANLEY
Unicus magazine

ANONYMOUS: I will NOT supply that information.
For your information only (not for public view), Ebe #1 visited
Washington D.C. in 19__ and stayed at _____ _____, _____ in a special
_____. He did not meet with President ______ .
[Withheld for reasons of national security.]

[FACTOID – Victor Martinez:

The final segment of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND which I viewed
does have 12 people, 10 men and two women. Twelve people are also the
number given in Spielberg's book version.

However, I got around to reading the end of Spielberg's paperback
version of CE3. It reads the same as the movie except for two
interesting things. The 12 Team Members are introduced as ALL MEN.

An additional dialogue not in the movie also takes place. They have a
sit down with Roy Neary and have him sign a number of documents. While
he signs the last one he is told the following:

"We have a possible problem in the area of canon and common
jurisprudence outside of the parameters of our astronomy. The case could
be made that you are, in effect, technically speaking... dead."

Is this a fancy way of saying that if anybody comes snooping around
about what happened to Roy, they now have the legal right to tell them
he is dead? Does that sound familiar?

"Spielberg tells me about the film. It's about UFOs, he says, but it is
not science fiction. He calls it 'science fact.'"

COMMENT: Makes you wonder how Spielberg got the numbers and gender count
right.

It is reported that after President Ronald Reagan watched a special
screening of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," he privately spoke to
Steven Spielberg and said, "You don't know how true this really is."
(The actual quote by President Reagan ) ]

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Posting Twelve by Anonymous (24 January, 2006)

[Note by BR: This posting was sent directly to myself and was not sent
to Victor Martinez. It is presented below verbatim. Nothing has been
added or edited. Typos have not been corrected and all the formatting
has been retained.]

I dreamt of earth. I really had some vivid dreams of Colorado, the
mountains, the snow and my family. It was if I was really there. I had
no worries and never thought of my situation inside the foreign
spaceship. Then I awoke. I was confused and disoriented. I was in a
bowl, well, it looked like a bowl to me. I don't remember how I got
here. My first thought was to my crew. I pushed open the top of this
glass bowl and it opened. I heard a hissing sound coming from the seams
or seals. I looked around and saw that I was inside a room. Not a room I
remember. But all of us were inside these glass bowls. All the other
crew members were asleep. I climbed out and realized my legs were really
sore. But I climbed out and went to each glass bowl and checked on the
crew. I found only eleven of us. Somebody is missing. But who? I am so
confused. I'm also very thirsty. I can't find any of those water
bottles. We had some but I can't find any. My eyes are really having
a problem focusing. But I'm writing this in my log, I have to record
everything. I found number..... He is alive. Who is missing. I have to
look at each bowl. This room is large. The ceiling looks like bed
mattress. The walls of this room are soft. Not very much in this room
except for the bowls and some tubes running from the bowls to the floor.
I see lights flashing on the bottom of each bowl. There are bright
lights on in the ceiling. Inside the mattress or something. I can't
open these bowls. I've tried everything. I must get some help from
the Ebens. I found a door but it won't open. I can't remember
how we opened the other doors. How long have we've been in these
bowls? I can't seem to remember much. Maybe the traveling in space
causes problems with a person's mind. They told us this during
training but we never had anyone travel this far in space before. We are
the specimens. Maybe I should go back into the bowl. Maybe I awoke too
early. My wristwatch says it is 1800 hours. But what day, what month,
what year? How long have I been asleep. The floor seems to be soft with
wires running in a cris cross pattern. I see some type of television
screen in the corner of the room. I think it might monitor the other
bowls. I can't read anything on the screen because it is in Eben
language. I do make out likes, maybe health monitoring lines on the
screen. I hope that means everyone is breathing and is alive. But we are
missing one man. Did I forget something? Did someone die? I can't
remember. I have some type of rash on my hands. Real burning sensation.
Maybe it is radiation burns from something. But where are the radiation
monitors we had in our packs? Were are our survival packs? I can't
find anything. I am returning to the bowl. I am lying down. I will stop
making entries in this diary.

I am awake again. Ebens are in the room. My bowl is open. Some of my
crew are walking around. The Ebens are helping them. I climbed out of my
bowl. The English speaking Eben sees me and I asked him if everyone of
my crew was alright. He doesn't understand, "alright". I
point to the crew. I say eleven. Where is number twelve? Ebe1 then
points to a bowl that is empty and says, earthman is not living. Ok,
someone died. But who. My crew is walking around in a state of
confusion. I can't get anyone's attention. They look like the
living dead. What is wrong with them? I asked Ebe1, what is wrong with
them. Ebe1 replied, space sick, but will not be sick soon. Ok, that
makes sense. I have no idea how long. We are still flying but don't
know how long. Ebe1 brings some fluids and something looking like a
biscuit. Fluid tastes like chalk and the biscuit doesn't have any
taste. We all eat it and drink the fluid. Almost instantly we feel
better. Ok, get organized. Told 203 to round up all crew. Found 308
missing. Must be the dead crew member. Ebe1 came back and lead me to
308. He was in bowl, something like coffin. 700 and 754 will examine
308. Ebe 1 cautioned us no to take 308 out. Don't understand the
caution. 700 and 754 is here. I try to tell Ebe 1 that these guys are
our doctors and must examine 308. Ebe 1 said no, because of infection. I
guess 308 must have had some sort of infection and it could be
contagious. But is 308 dead? Don't know. We will take Ebe1 advice.
700 and 754 just looked into the bowl and said it looks like 308 is
dead. Everyone else looks ok. The fluids and biscuit must have contained
some type of energy food. We can focus our eyes and can actually think.
No one can remember how we got into this room. All our equipment is
here. Everyone is concerned about our status. Ebese are friendly but
won't tell us much. 899 is concerned with being locked into a room.
633 and 661 thinks we should be keeping busy. I agree. I order everyone
to get their packs and ration belts, inventory everything inside and see
if something is missing. That will occupy the team for some time. My
wristwatch says it is 0400. But what day? Date? Don't know. Very
strange not being able to gauge time. We have no reference inside this
room or this spaceship. The year clock that we brought will be unpacked
once we can get to the stowed gear. We don't know where that is.
All crew inventoried packs and ration belts. Everything is accounted
for. 899 wants to arm himself with handgun. I said no. We don't need
guns. No Ebese have been hostel towards us. We got out a compass. It
doesn't work. We got out our radios. We will keep them on our belts.
Don't know if they work away from the room. But we turned them on
and they work. We can hear each other. Good, we have communication. But
we must be careful, the battery life is only about two days. I suggest
everyone start writing down their thoughts. Keep some sort of a diary,
like I am doing. I was ordered to do this and will continue to do as
long as I can. But I won't keep it by day, since I can't tell
when a day ends. 661 suggests we make up a calendar and a time system as
long as we are here. Good idea, he will do that. The calendar will run
on a seven day system. We will use our wristwatches to gauge a 24 hour
period and then consider that one day. We will start at 0600, which is
in about 45 minutes. 518 set up the air monitor. Seems we are breathing
regular air. The team is joking about 518's nomenclature use for
regular air. Good that we have some humor. Ok, this is the beginning of
day 1, it is 0600 hours. 661 will keep calendar. We should have done
this before. We have no idea how long we have been inside this
spaceship, how long we have been traveling. Didn't we get into the
command station? Maybe I dreamed it. I can't find the first part of
my diary.
Ebe1 came in. Told us journey almost over. Lead us to hallway. We got
into moving room and moved to another part of ship. Came out into large
room with many items, I can't identify them but they look like
clothing chests or bedroom chests. We are also lead to a large table
with food. Ebe1 tells us to eat. He said good food, eat. We'll, we
all look at each other. 700 and 754 says lets eat. Ok, we find plates.
Seems like ceramic plates real heavy. I chose something that looks like
a stew. I then got a biscuit, same as we ate earlier. The drinks were in
metal containers. Same fluid we drank earlier. We all ate. Very little
taste in the stew. Something like potatoes, maybe cucumbers, some type
of stems. No really bad. The biscuits taste the same. Everyone sat and
ate. We found something like apples but didn't taste like apples.
Sweet and soft, I ate one. Leaves an after taste in my mouth. Team looks
happy. Some are joking about not having any ice cream. Ok, the MVC is in
room. First time we saw him. He speaks through Ebe1. The language really
bothers my ears. The high pitch sounds and then the vocal tones sounds
very strange. Ebe1 tells us MVC wants us to prepare for landing. Ok, how
do we do that. We must get into bowl room and get in bowl. No one wants
to do that but if we have to we will do that. We must go into bowl room
and get in bowl. No one wants to do that but if we have to we will do
it. We are lead back to moving room and travel back to bowl room. We
climb into the bowl. Some use pot for relief of our bowels and bladders.
Then climb into bowl. The lids close but we are awake. Just lie there. I
fall asleep.
The bowl lids have opened. My wristwatch says 1100. I guess it is still
day 1. We climb out. Ebe1 is at our side. He tell us. Landing home. Ok,
I guess we are there. We gather our gear. 700 reminds us to wear out
sunglasses once we exit. We pack up and walk down long hallway. Then
into another moving room. We travel for one minute. Then door open. We
are in large room. We see our stowed gear. Large room, many smaller
spaceships stored here. A large door opens. Bright light. We see the
planet for the first time. We walk down the ramp. Large number of ebens
waiting for us. We see a large eben, largest one we have seen yet. He
comes forward and starts speaking to us. Ebe1 translate a welcome
message from the Leader. I guess this guy is the leader. About one foot
taller than the others. The leader tells us we are welcome to planet, he
called it something we do not understand. Ebe1 isn't doing a good
job translating. But we are lead to an open arena. Looks like a parade
field. The ground is dirt. Looking up, I see blue skies. The sky is very
clear. We see two suns. One brighter than the other. The landscape looks
like a desert, Arizona or new Mexico. No vegetation that we can see.
There are rolling hills but nothing but dirt. This must be the central
village or town. We landed in an open area with large structures like
electrical towers. Something is sitting on top of these towers. On the
center of the village is a large tower. Looks like a concrete structure.
Very large, maybe 300 feet. Looks like a mirror is placed on top of this
tower. All the buildings looks like adobe or mud huts. Some are larger
than others. Looking in one direction, can't tell any actual compass
readings but there is a very large structure. All the ebens are dressed
in the same clothing, except for some of the ebens who were on the
spaceship. Now I see others dressed in a dark blue outfit, different
from the others. Each eben is wearing some type of box on their belts.
All have belts. Can't see any children, but maybe they are the same
size too. Our boots leave an imprint into the soil. The brightness is
almost too much for our eyes without sunglasses. Looking around 360
degrees, I see buildings and barren land. Can't see any vegetation.
I wonder where they grow their food. What a planet. Hard to believe we
will have to live 10 years here. But a journey of 1000 miles begins with
one foot step. Can't remember who said that but that just came to
mind. But large numbers of ebens are welcoming us. They seem friendly.
Then, almost shocking us, someone speaks English. We all look around and
see an eben. This eben speaks very good English. This eben, we call
ebe2, speaks almost fluent English, with exception of not really
pronouncing the letter w. But ebe2 does a good job speaking English.
Ebe2 says we are welcome to the planet serpo. Ok, that is the name of
their planet. Ebe2 shows us a device and tells us everyone of us must
wear it. It looks like a small transistor radio. We put it on our belts.
The weather is extremely hot. Asked 633 to take temperature. 633 says it
is 107 degrees. Very warm. We take off top jacket and leave us with one
piece flight suit. The ebens looks at us but seem very friendly. Some
are wearing some type of shawls. I asked Ebe2 about that, Ebe2 says they
are females. Ok, I see. They all look alike. Really hard to tell one
apart except for uniform. Some have different colored uniforms. I asked
Ebe2 about that, Ebe2 says military uniform. Ok, that makes sense. Ebe2
lead us to a series of huts, looking like adobe style houses. There are
four. Behind them is an underground room, or storage area. It is built
into the ground, underground. We have to walk down a ramp. The doors
look like a military igloos that store our atomic bombs on earth. All
our gear taken off the spaceship is stored there. We walked down into
this area. Very large room. Very cool, a lot cooler. We might have to
sleep here. All our gear is there. Sixteen palates of gear. This igloo
is made up of something like concrete but not the same texture. Feels
like soft rubber but still hard. The floor is made of the same stuff.
There are lights in the ceiling. Looks like spot lights. They have
electricity. We must inventory all our gear sometime. We go back to
huts. The huts are cooler than outside. But still very warm. We must get
organized. I tell Ebe2, we will need to be alone and get organized.
Ebe2, then I realize Ebe2 is female, says ok, We will be left alone. I
asked for the body of 308 . Ebe2 seems to be confused and doesn't
know about any body. I explained to Ebe2 held her hands across her body
and bowed her head. It was really an emotional site because she was
almost crying. Ebe 2 told us that the body would be brought to us but
she must check with her trainer. The word trainer kind of shocked me. Is
Ebe2 in training and someone is teaching her? Or is the word trainer in
Eben something different in English. Maybe that means leader or
commander. Don't know. But Ebe2 left. I told 203 to gather everyone
in the lower storage area. We will have a team meeting. 633 suggested we
start the calendar as of today. It is 1300 on our Day 1 on planet serpo.

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Posting Thirteen (a) by Anonymous (28 January, 2006)

We had a serious problem. How do we explain our science to an alien
entity, who doesn't know Einstein, Kepler or any of the other scientists
of our time. Simple mathematics, seems so foreign to them. Ebe2 is the
smart one. She seems to understand our language more than 1 and 2. She
even seems to understand our basic math. We started with the basic math.
2 plus 2. Then progressed on. She understood and even caught on so quick
that she continued on without our help. We realize she has a great IQ
when she repeated 1000 times 1000 and came up with an answer. We showed
her our slide rule. It took her a couple of minutes to figure it out,
although I don't think she fully understood all the symbols on the slide
rule. She is really something. We found a personality in her. Maybe
because we have more contact with her than the others. She is very warm
hearted, one can just sense that in her. She really cares about us and
she even worries about us. During our first night, she seemed to make
sure everything was just right for us. She warned us of the heat and the
light. She mentioned that SERPO does not get dark, like earth. I wonder
how she knew that? Has she visited earth? Maybe she is just educated on
earth's properties. Maybe they have books about earth. Anyway, on the
first night, she told us about the winds, what winds. Gusty winds start
just when the one sun sets. The other sun does not but stays in the
lower horizon. The winds blow dust, free dust into our huts. We had a
very difficult first night. We call it night but it seems that the Ebens
just call it a period of their day. Ebe3 knew the word day but didn't
compare it to earth's day. Maybe she hasn't been to earth. We didn't
sleep well during our night. The Eben's don't sleep, like we do. They
seem to rest for periods of time and then wake and go about their
business, whatever that might be, When we awoke, Ebe2 was there, outside
our hut. I opened the door and she was waiting. Why? How did she know we
were awake? Maybe the huts are being monitored by some sensor. Ebe2 told
us to follow her to the eating place. She didn't use the word dining
hall or chow hall or facility. She used the word place. Once I gathered
the team, we walked across the village, I'll call it a village for the
sake of wording. We entered a large building. It seemed to be large,
based on the small stature of the Ebens. There were food on tables. I
guess we'd call this place a chow hall. Ebens looked at us but carried
on eating. Do they not cook inside their huts? Maybe everyone eats here.
We walked to the food tables. Same food we saw and ate on the spaceship
except some items were different. They bad large bowls of something like
fruits. Strange looking things. They also had something like cottage
cheese, it tasted like sour milk but after the initial taste, alright. I
encouraged each team member to eat and drink. We might as well get use
to the food. But 700 tells us to eat just one of their meals a day and
stick to our C-rations for the other meals. That way, our system will
adjust to the Eben food. We sat at a table, small compared to our
standards and ate. The Ebens numbering, probably about 100, just ate and
didn't really bother us. Every now and then, we would catch Ebens
staring at us. But we were the freaks, not them. We are the visitors. We
are the aliens. We must really look strange to them. We all look
different, they all look the same. How can they compare us to them? They
can't. We stare at them, they stare at us. We then see a different
looking Eben. Very strange looking creature, large, long arms, almost
floats along with long legs. Can't be an Eben. We all stare. This
creature just floats by us and didn't even look at us. I find Ebe2. She
is eating with three others. Once I approach her, she stands and almost
bows her head towards me. Maybe just a greeting, have to remember that.
I ask her abet the creature we saw, I ask if that was some other type of
Eben. Ebe2 seems confused. She asked me what creature. I used the word
creature. Maybe that was an insult or maybe she didn't know the word. I
pointed to the thing at the other end of the building. She then saw what
I meant. Ebe2 said, no Eben, just visitor. Like you, pointing to me. Ok,
I see, they have other alien visitors here. I guess we are not the only
ones. I then asked Ebe2 what planet did that visitor come from? Ebe2
said, something like CORTA, not sure of the exact work although I asked
her to repeat it twice. Ok, where is CORTA? She walks me to a
television, at least it looks like one. It is positioned in the corner
of the building. It is set up like some type of command station. She
places her finger on the glass and something appears. The universe? Star
systems. I don't recognize any of them. She points to a spot and says
CORTA. Ok, where is earth? She points to another spot and says earth.
Based on this television glass space map, CORTA and earth are very
close. But I don't know the scale of this map. Maybe they are a trillion
miles apart or maybe 10 light years. But they seem close. I'll have to
have one of the scientists look at this and see. Ok, I thank Ebe2. She
seems pleased. She almost looks like a angel. She seems so very nice.
She touched my hand and pointed to my table and said, eat. Good eat? I
laughed and said, yes, good chow hall food. She looked puzzled. I guess
she doesn't know what a chow hall is. I pointed to the building and
said, chow hall, earth eating place. She repeated what I said, chow
hall, earth eating place. I laughed and walked away. Now she will think
all earth restaurants are called chow halls.
We retuned to our huts. We must get better organized. We have a meeting.
Everyone seems ok. We wonder about latrines, Where do we relieve
ourselves. Ebe1 comes by, almost as if he was reading our minds, maybe
they can even do that. He tells shows us pot in hut. We all wondered
what that was. Ok, that is our latrine. Realized that won't work very
well but we'll do what we can. Then we realize the pot has some sort of
chemical inside. Our wastes are dissolved or something like that. Can't
really tell. Each of the four huts have one. That will work for the time
being. Ebe2 tells us to walk on ground. Not sure what he means by that
but 420 says that might we to just walk around. Ok, that we will do. I
organize the teams102 will remain with 225. I want 633 and 661 to look
at the television glass map and see if they can tell which star system
is CORTA. I ask 518 to take temperature readings and general weather
observations. I know it is hot. Very hot. Most be over 140 degrees. 754
warns us to keep covered from sun radiation. 754 says radiation levels
are high. Doesn't sound very good to me. This reminds me of Nevada.
1956, during one of the atomic bomb testing. We had hot weather and we
had to worry about the radiation from the atomic blasts. Now we are on a
strange planet 40 light years from earth and we have radiation and heat.
But we have to explore that is why we were sent. We starting walking
around 475 will take photographs with our military cameras. I hope the
film is affected by the radiation. How do we develop it? Maybe we didn't
think of everything. I team up with 225. We walk to a large open door
building. We walk in and it looks like a classroom but no Ebens are
here. There is a large television tube, it takes up the entire wall.
There are some lights flashing on this television tube. We examine the
tube. It is very thin. I wonder how it works. Where are the tubes or the
electronics. But maybe they are more advanced in this area than us. They
must be. We don't find touch else in this building. We move on, wow, it
is so very hot, I hope l get use to it. We find a large tower. Looks
like a antenna tower but it has a large mirror. We saw this when we
first arrived yesterday. We find an Eben standing near the door but he
moves to one side. We ask him if he understands English. He just stares
at us but seems friendly. I guess he doesn't speak English. We move on
into the building, Can't find any stairs. But we see some type of round
glass room. Maybe it is an elevator. Then we hear English. We turn
around and find Ebe2 standing there. Where did she come from? I her if
we may explore this building. She said yes, of course, She points to the
glass room and says go up. Ok, we enter the glass room. The glass door
closes and go up real fast. I no time we are at the top. But what is
this. We ask Ebe2, what is this. She points to the sun and then points
to the top of the room, where the mirror is located. She then points to
the ground. Ok, we see it. The tower is in the middle of a circle. The
circle is situated on the ground. In each quadrant of the circle is a
symbol. I see that the sun is directed through the mirror maybe this
isn't a mirror as we know it since the sunlight travels through it, but
once the sunlight travels through it, the light is directed on a symbol
within the circle. Ebe2 says that when light contacts symbol then Ebens
make change. Not sure what that means. Maybe she means it tells the
Ebens what to do. 225 seems to think it is a sun dial. When the sun
strikes a symbol, the Ebens change what they are doing and do something
else. Maybe the Eben day is structured. Or maybe this is their clock.
Strange. But we are on an alien planet. I'm glad I still have my sense
of humor. This is only our first day, first day of school. We have a lot
to learn. We have to keep an open mind. We can't keep comparing things
to earth. We have to open our minds to new ideas and new science. All
these things are foreign to us but we must learn. I pointed to my
wristwatch and then pointed to the ground and in a gesture to show Ebe2
that the two items are time pieces. Not sure if she understood. But I
said time and she then understood.. Yes, she said, Eben time, pointing
to the ground. I pointed again to the wristwatch and said, earth time.
Ebe2 then almost smiled and said, no, no earth time on SERPO. Ok, that
makes sense. 225 said, she just told us that earth time doesn't work on
SERPO. Yes, I guess she did. What good is our watches or time device
here? They don't work. We have to start using Eben time. But we must
also maintain our time because we must know when to leave. Ten years
seem like a million. Maybe based on Eben time that it might just be a
million years. Lets hope not. No time to think about home, we have a
mission and duties to perform. We are a military team and we must
maintain that idea. 225 and myself go back into the glass bowl and go
down to the ground. We walk onto another building, large again. Inside
we find rolls and rolls of plants. This must be some sort of greenhouse,
They are growing food. Many Ebens are inside. They look at us with some
glares. But we just walk in and around. One Eben comes up to us and
speaks but in Eben. He seems to be telling us something. He points to
the ceiling and then to our heads. Maybe he is telling us to cover our
heads. We must find Ebe2. We go back outside and then finds Ebe2, she
always seems to be near. Now we understand why, she is monitoring us by
the devices we are wearing on our belts. I ask Ebe2 what is that
building. She says food making place. Ok, maybe we contaminated the
place. We told her that another Eben spoke to us and then pointed to our
heads. Ebe2 seemed confused and walked back into the building with us.
The same Eben exchanged words with Ebe2. Ebe2 then told us that we must
wear a cover on our heads in order to enter. Why? But we don't argue.
This other Eben produces some sort of cloth had and we wear it. We walk
about, the Eben seemed happy, We look at their plants. They are growing
food in soil. They have a watering system. They also have some sort of
transparent cloth over each plant. I point to the watering system and
ask Ebe2, if that is water, drinking water. Ebe2 said yes. Then she
senses we are thirsty. Ebe2 leads us to a place near another entrance
and offers us water, at least we think it is water. Tastes like
chemicals but it is water. Actually tastes good.

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Posting Thirteen (b) by Anonymous (28 January, 2006)

The leader of the Ebens is a larger creature than the others. He seems
to be more aggressive than the other Ebens. When I write aggressive, I
don't me in a hostile way. He seems to be the boss, similar to me, as
the team commander. His voice, although after all this time, I still
can't understand any words, is harsh and with a tone that is different
from the rest. 203 claims the leader has an attitude. I agree. He is
extremely friendly to us and has accommodated all our requests. The
leader has requested many things from us. Most of which, we have
provided. One strange thing is our blood. He wanted all of us to supply
a blood samples. Ebe2 explained that the blood or health fluid as Ebe2
explained it, was necessary for them to supply any medicine to us if we
should ever need it. 700 and 754 feels that a blood sample might just be
used for other purposes. We have allowed the Ebens to utilize 308's body
for experiments. They took all 308s blood, that was without my approval.
I wrote about that in log 3888. We had a very tense situation with the
Ebens about that. When we traveled to the building housing 308s body, we
were confronted by several Ebens. Ebe1 showed up and I explained that we
wanted the body of 308. Ebe 1 told us the body was in storage and we
could not take it. We told Ebe 1 that we will take it. The eleven of us
walked by the Ebens, numbering six and walked into the building. They
did not attempt to stop us. While inside, we could not open any of the
containers. There was some type of system, maybe crypto style, that was
being used to lock the containers. We did find the container housing
308's body. We decided to send 899 to our storage area and get some
explosives to open the container. Ebe2 showed up with the leader. Ebe2
was extremely polite and asked us to wait. She used the word please
several times. In fact, she actually used the English word beg. We
backed off and I told Ebe2 that we wanted our friends body and we wanted
to examine it. Ebe2 translated that to the leader. There was a long
exchange of words between the two. Finally, Ebe2, who seemed very
frustrated told us that the leader would like us to go to another
location and speak with another Eben, a doctor, about the body of 308.
Ebe2 explained that everything wanted to know about 308's body would be
explained to us by the Eben doctor, who Ebe2 said spoke English. I told
Ebe 2 that I would leave 899 and 754 here to guard the body and I would
take the others to the location containing the doctor. Ebe2 translated
that to the leader. Again, there was a long drawn out exchange of words
between the two. It lasted for several minutes. Finally, Ebe2 stated
that the leader would like all of us to leave this building and go to
visit with the doctor. I told Ebe2, no, I would not leave the body of
308 alone. I felt that this was going to be a confrontation. I told 518
and 420 to go back, obtain our handguns and come back ASAP. I was not
going to allow the Ebens to counterman my decisions. When Ebe2 heard
this, she told me to wait and placed her hand against my chest. I told
her to translate that to the leader. Again, there were several minutes
of word exchanges between the two. Ebe2 then stated that the leader
would bring the doctor here to discuss the situation with us. Ebe2 asked
me to please don't send your men for guns. Guns are not needed, we can
settle this without guns. Please don't. I told Ebe2 that we would not
get the guns but we would not leave until we saw 308's body. The leader
did something with the communication device on his belt. About 20
minutes later, three Ebens showed up inside this building. One of the
Ebens, who identified himself as a doctor and who spoke very good
English. This doctor had a strange sounding voice, almost like a human's
voice. This doctor did not have a high pitch accent, like Ebe1 and Ebe2.
I was very impressed with this doctor. I just wonder where he has been
for these past 18 months. We have never saw him before. This doctor told
us that 308s body was not inside the container. The Ebens have done
experiments with 308s body because they considered it an honor to have
such a specimen to work with. The doctor told us they have used 308s
body to create a type of cloned human being. I stopped the doctor at
this point. I told the doctor that the body of my teammate was the
property of the United States of America, planet Earth. The body did not
belong to the Ebens. I did not authorized any experiments on the body of
308. I explained that humans consider a body to be religious. Only I
could have authorized the use of 308s body for experiments. I demanded
to see the body. This doctor explained the body was gone. This doctor
said all the blood, body organs were taken out and used to clone other
beings. The use of the word beings really scared me and the others. 899
became extremely angry. He called the doctor curse names. I ordered 899
to be quiet. I then told 203 to take 899 out of the building. I realized
this matter could really blossom into a major incident. I could not
allow that to happen. There were just eleven of us and we realized that
if the Ebens wanted to imprison us or kill us, they could do it very
easily. But I didn't think the Ebens would resort to such behavior. I
was not going to allow this incident to advance into something worse. I
realized there wasn't much we could do about what the Ebens have done
with 308s body. Ebe2 looked very upset. Ebe2 told me that everyone
should be nice, she repeated the word nice many times. Ebe2 did not want
this matter to escalate. I kind of felt sorry for Ebe2. She was trying
to mediate the matter. 203 suggested we return to our living quarters
and have a team meeting. I told the leader that I did not want any
further interference between whatever is left of 308s body and
experiments. I pointed my finger towards the leader's face. Ebe2
translated, along with the doctor. The doctor, who was extremely
straightforward, told me that nothing further would happen with the
body, but advised me very little was left of the body. Ebe2 then told me
the leader was concerned that we were upset. That we were their guests.
That the leader was upset that we were offended. The leader did not wish
to upset us and promised that nothing further would happen to the body.
I thanked Ebe2 and had her rely that to the leader. We returned to out
huts. Everyone was upset, especially 899. I told each member to calm
down. I explained our situation, as if each team member didn't already
realize it, that we were only eleven military personnel. We had no way
of fighting the Ebens. We did not come 40 light years to start a war
with the Ebens. A war we could not win. We could not even win a simple
fist fight with the Ebens. Yes, maybe we could beat them up but what
then. We have to realize out situation and act accordingly. I ordered
each member to reconsider the situation and to except the facts about
308s body. I told 633 and 700 to investigate this cloning procedure with
the English speaking Eben doctor. Lets get all the facts about what they
did with the body and what we can find out about the body and the Ebens
experiments with the body.
Ebe2 came to the hut. I told Ebe2 that 633 and 700 were going to examine
what was left of 308s body. They would also conduct research into the
Ebens experiments done on 308s body. Ebe2 look very concerned. It is
sometimes difficult for us, even after the time we have been on this
planet, to determine the meaning of facial expressions on Ebens face.
Ebe2 replied that she must first obtain approval, approval was a new
word for Ebe2. She was must reading or learning our language. Maybe she
is just picking up our words. I told Ebe2 that she can go get permission
but that we were told when we arrived that we did not have any
restrictions on where we went. Ebe2 said she would speak with the
leader. 633 and 700 gathered test equipment and prepared themselves for
the examination of the Eben laboratory. According to our time devices,
Ebe2 came back about 80 minutes later. Ebe2 said it was alright for my
men to visit their laboratory. I decided that I would also visit it.
Myself, 633 and 700 were escorted by Ebe2 to the laboratory facility. We
had to be taken by the helitransport device, as we call their
helicopters. It took us sometime before arriving at this location.
According to our compass readings, which are not really a compass
reading but we made points of references and according to them, we
traveled north. The facility was large, by Eben standards. The building
looked like a large single story windowless school. We landed on the
roof, or maybe just a landing zone on the roof. We were escorted down a
walkway or ramp. They don't have ladders on this planet. I think I wrote
about this in one of my past entries. They have ramps. We arrived in a
room. White walls. We then walked through a hallway into another larger
room. We met our English speaking doctor. We saw many other Ebens, all
dressed in a bluish colored one piece suit. Different from their
ordinary suits I spoke of in past entries. The doctor told us that all
the experiments done inside this building, he didn't call it a
laboratory, just a building, is done to create cloned beings. We were
lead into another room, where there were rolls of containers, looking
like glass bathtubs. Inside each bathtub were bodies. I was shocked, as
were 700 and 754. Bodies. Strange looking bodies. Not human bodies, at
least not all of them. We started walking down the space between the
tubs. We looked into the tubs. These were hideous looking creatures. I
asked the doctor what type of creatures were inside these tubs. The
doctor told us that these creatures came from other planets. 700 asked
the doctor were these creatures dead when they arrived? Or did the Ebens
bring them here dead. The doctor said all the creatures were brought to
the planet alive. 700 asked if the creatures were kidnaped or brought
here against their wishes. The doctor was not sure of the word kidnaped.
The doctor seemed puzzled. The doctor asked about the question. 700 said
that these creatures were taken from another planet and brought to serpo
without permission from them or their leaders of their planet. The
doctor said that these beings were brought here for experiments. These
creatures are not intelligent beings. Ebe2 then used the word animals.
Ok, now I understand. All these creatures are animals from other
planets. The doctor didn't seem to understand the word animal. Ebe2 and
the doctor exchanged words in Eben and the doctor then said, yes, they
are animals. I then asked if there were any intelligent creatures in
this building. The doctor said, yes, but that all of them were dead when
they arrived on serpo. 700 asked to see these creatures. The doctor
corrected 700 by saying beings. Ok, I guess creatures are animals and
beings are like humans. Let me first write down the description of these
creatures inside these tubs. They are not all alike. The first creature
I see inside the tub looks like a porcupine. It appears to have a tube
placed inside of it. The tube leads to a box underneath the tub. The
second creature I see looks like a monster. It has a large head, big
deep set eyes, no ears, a mouth, but no teeth. It is about five feet
long and has two lower legs but no feet. It has two arms but it doesn't
appear to have any elbows. It has hands but no fingers. This creature
also has a tube going through it. The next creature looked like nothing
I can compare it to. It had blood red skin, two spots in the middle,
maybe eyes. No arms or legs. It had a very strange odor. The skin
appeared to be blotchy with scales. Maybe like a fish. Maybe it is a
fish. The next creature was human like. But the skin was white, not skin
white, the color white. The skin was wrinkled. The head was large, with
two eyes, two ears and a mouth. The neck was very small. The head almost
looked as if it sat on the lower torso. The chest was thin, with large
bone like protrusions. The arms were curled, with hands but no thumbs.
The legs were also curled with feet but only three toes. I couldn't look
at anymore creatures. We walked down another hallway, through a room,
down a ramp, into another room. We came into a room that looked like a
hospital room. There were many beds, or at least sometime of bed, Eben
style bed. I described them before. In each bed was a living being, as
the doctor called it. The doctor told us that each being was alive and
well cared for. 700 asked the doctor if these beings were ill or sick.
Ebe2 had to translate that but the doctor said, no, they are being
lived. The three of us seemed really stunned by that word lived. I asked
Ebe2 what the doctor meant. Ebe2 exchanged words with the doctor. Ebe2
then used the word grown. 700 asked the doctor if these were the cloned
beings that he mentioned before. The doctor said yes that each being was
being grown, using the same word as Ebe2 just used. 754 asked the doctor
if these beings were being grown like a plant. The doctor said yes that
is a good comparison. 700 asked the doctor how are they grown. The
doctor said that certain parts of other beings were used to grow these
beings. The doctor said he could not explain the process in English
because he didn't know the words. 700 then asked Ebe2 if she could
explain the growing process. Ebe2 said she did not know the English
words. Ebe2 said that parts of the blood and other organs are used to
mix a substance that is placed inside the bodies of these beings. That
was all Ebe2 could explain in English. I told 700 to go back and get 420
and bring them back. While we waited for 420, we looked at these beings.
They were breathing. They looked like humans, most of them. Two of the
beings on the end looked like humans with dog heads. These beings were
not awake. They were either sleeping or drugged. 420 returned. I told
420 to see if he could translate the method used to grow these beings.
420 then spoke with Ebe2. 420 is really good. However long we have been
hear, some guess about 18 months earth time, 420 learned the language
well. 420 then said that the growing process involved cells taken from
other beings, grown and mixed with chemicals and then inserted into the
bodies of other beings. That was about all 420 could explain. 420 did
not know the words Ebe2 used. But the word cells were used. Ebe2 then
told me that some things were taken from inside the cells. 700 and 754
then asked if the item take from inside the cells were cell membranes or
identification markers for the cells. Ebe2 translated that to the
doctor. Both seemed confused and said they could not explain the process
because they did not know the English words for it. 700 used the word
advance biological extraction of the cell membranes. But neither Ebe2 or
the doctor knew anything about that process. I asked 754 if he might
understand what they were doing. 754 said that human cells contain
smaller substance that can identify the structure with the membranes of
the cell. This isn't something that earth technology has advance but 754
has read about it prior to leaving. But 754 doesn't think that earth
technology can be used to grown living cells into what the Ebens have
done. The Ebens must have found a way to grow cells and to make them
into living beings. 700 and 754 said nothing like his is known on earth.
I then asked the doctor if 308s body was used to create a being. The
doctor said yes, and showed us the being. I was shocked, as was 700 and
754. This being, with our teammates blood and cells, looked like a large
Eben. But the hands and legs were similar to humans. How could they have
grown this being so quick. Obviously, this is well above our
intelligence. I saw all I wanted to see. I told the doctor that we would
like to leave. Ebe2 saw that I was upset and touched my hand. Instantly,
I felt concern. Ebe2 was really concerned about what I saw. Ebe2 said we
leave. We traveled outside this building, a building that I did not wish
to see again. I saw the dark side of this civilization. The Ebens are
not the humane civilization we thought they were. But I must say they
didn't hide anything. The doctor spoke straight to us. Just like the
Ebens. They don't know how to lie. Seeing what we saw will change our
impression of the Ebens as long as we stay on this planet.

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Posting Fourteen by Anonymous (1 February, 2006)

[Note by BR: This posting was sent directly to myself and was not sent
to Victor Martinez. It is presented below verbatim. Nothing has been
added or edited.
There also seems to be an anomaly, as "102" appears to be a different
person from the Team Commander in the information above. I invite other
pairs of eyes to check.]

Team Commander
Assistant Team Commander
Team Pilot #1
Team Pilot #2
Linguist #1
Linguist #2
Biologist
Scientist #1
Scientist #2
Doctor #1
Doctor #2
Security

102
203
225
308
420
475
518
633
661
700
754
899

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Posting Fifteen by Anonymous (4 February, 2006)

Note by BR: This posting was sent directly to myself and was not sent to
Victor Martinez. The diagram below was downloaded, printed, and then
scanned into a Word program supplied by Anonymous, all precisely as per
detailed instructions.

The outlined circle did not appear in the original download; however, as
the diagram was scanned, the circle appeared in the Word program.
Because this created a 4 Mb document and the individual components could
easily be accidentally clicked and dragged, I created a screenshot of it
and produced a far smaller .gif
(http://www.serpo.org/Ebenobject_original.gif
<http://www.serpo.org/Ebenobject_original.gif> ). This is the left-hand
image, and is the original.

I increased the contrast a little to darken it for easier viewing, and
the result is http://www.serpo.org/
<http://www.serpo.org/Ebenobject_darkened.gif> Ebenobject_darkened.gif
<http://www.serpo.org/Ebenobject_darkened.gif> . This is on the right.

The name of the image – Ebenobject – was given by Anonymous.

There were no labels, description, or any other explanation for the
diagram.

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Posting Sixteen by Anonymous (9 March, 2006)

[Note by BR: This posting was received by myself while at the Laughlin
UFO Congress, Nevada. There are two parts:

1) A sample of the Eben written language (original on left; sample
enlargement on right; click on either for a higher-resolution image);

2) A further instalment of the Team Commander's Log, posted verbatim as
before. The final sentence is also verbatim, and apparently incomplete.]

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It was difficult to speak science to the Ebens. How do we explain
Einstein? How do they explain their Einstein? We had a difficult time
relating our science to them. However, they seemed to understand our
physics and chemistry quicker than we can. We managed to observe some
strange things about their technology. First, we took apart one of the
locators, they placed on our belts. It wasn't easy. There were no screws
or bolts holding it together. We had to break the thing. The electronics
inside was nothing we have ever observed. There were no transistors,
tubes, rectifiers, coils or other electronic components like our
technology. This thing had just wires and some bulges in the wires at
certain points. There was two components, which none of use have ever
seen. We could not use our frequency counter to determine the frequency
it transmitted and received. It was out of our range. 633 and 661 used
some other equipment to analyze the thing but couldn't understand it. We
asked the Eben Scientist, who we called Ebe4. The problem was the
translation Ebe 2 had to translate because Ebe 4 didn't speak English. A
lost is lost in translation even though Ebe 2 does a pretty good job
with English. We showed Ebe 4 one of our portable radios. The Motorola
FM radio was pretty complex to us. It was new and contained four
channels. 661 took apart the radio in front of Ebe 4, explained the
parts and the different crystals we use for frequency. Ebe 4 couldn't
understand it. He seemed as lost with our radio as we did with theirs.
Ebe 2 told us that Ebe 4 couldn't understand the radio or how it worked.
So that was our dilemma. How do we exchange science. Each of our
civilizations must learn from the other. So, we decided to begin a
school. Our first days were pretty tough. We started with simple things.
which we thought would be similar to what they would know. We chose
light. 661, who did some teaching before, started with wavelengths. 661
started with nonvisible light and the different angstroms. Then 661
showed them the spectrum of light. 661 showed them cosmic rays and how
we measured them. Then he went to gamma rays, x-rays and ultraviolet
light. 661 explained that light was what we called electromagnetic
waves. Over a period of eben days, 661 explained everything he knew
about light, frequencies and a description of the frequency bands.
During this time, several other Ebens came in and listened. Ebe 2 was
extremely tasked with translating this. Ebe 2 had a difficult time
explaining everything 661 said because she didn't know the Eben words
for everything. But she did an outstanding job of describing what 661
was saying. I don't think Ebe 4 got everything 661 said but it didn't
take long for Ebe 4 to realize what 661 was describing. 661 then showed
Ebe 4 a repair manual for one of our test equipment. Since everything,
or almost everything we brought was military, it was a military manual.
The manual contained schematics of the circuits. Ebe 4 was completely
lost. But eventually figured out what 661 was showing him was the inside
of the test equipment. 661 then started showing the basics of
electricity. Ohms laws, different formulas to figure voltage and
amperes. Ebe 4 was confused, to say the least. But one of the other
Ebens. who had came in to listen, grasped the idea quickly. We called
this Eben, Ebe 5 or the Einstein. This Eben was smart, exceptionally
smart. After three years, we finally meet an Eben who can grasped our
science. The only problem is he couldn't speak English. But he asked
questions, which Ebe 4 didn't really do. Although it took several
lessons to teach Ebe 5 what each letter meant in a formula, Ebe 5
finally realized what we were saying. This Eben must of have an IQ of
300. Ebe5 actually solved some simple problems set up by 661. Basic
electricity, solving for the amount of resistance in a circuit, simple
things like that. It was a remarkable scene. Ebe 5 became our ace
student. We couldn't get rid of the guy. He followed us around and asked
questions through Ebe 2. When Ebe 2 wasn't available, he would simple
point and shrug his shoulders. We'd speak to him in English or have 420
or 475 translate to him. But only 420 could understand most of what Ebe
5 was saying. This come to another interesting point. Ebe 5 looked a
little different than the rest of the Ebens. During the last several
years, we have noticed some of the Ebens, especially the ones who live
up north, look different. There heads seem to be bigger. They have a
more weathered looking face. Ebe 5 is from the north. He lives in the
second village to our north. The distance is approximately 5 kilometers.
I drew the map in entry 4432, showing all the villages in the north. I'm
sure they have more villages farther away but we haven't visited them
yet. Ebe 5 also does not have a mate. This is strange but not totally
uncommon. We have found several Ebens without mates. We haven't delved
into the personal life of Ebe 5 but 518 wants to. I explained in one
entry about the Eben technology when it comes to screws, bolts, etc.
They don't have any. Everything they make is sealed with some sort of
solder or melting method. When we visited their manufacturing plant, we
were amazed at how efficient they were with manufacturing furniture,
their helicopters or flying devices. We still haven't seen their main
spacecraft manufacturing plant. It must be in the far west and south.
I'm sure we will visit the place someday. We still have seven years, or
at least seven earth years left. As I mentioned before, we have totally
lost track of earth time. We gave that up many of our years ago. We have
gauged our time on Eben time, which is extremely complex, as I mentioned
before. We had a feast today. What a feast. We used our last C-Rations
but the Ebens didn't really care for our food. We did kill a beast. As I
mentioned before, the Ebens allowed us to kill the beasts for meat. The
meat isn't really bad, 899 says it tastes like Bear, which I never ate.
But Ebens look at us very strange when we eat meat. Strange, they can
clone creatures and other species of humans but they can't eat meat. How
strange they are. But they allow us to do just about anything we want
and eating meat is something we need for the protein. We used the last
of our salt and pepper, which does make eating their food more of a
challenge. The Ebens don't have anything similar to salt and pepper.
They do have an herb, as we, call it, something like Oregano which they
use. It has a tart taste but we have developed a taste for it. The feast
was great. We participated in the dances, which the Ebens really like.
They get great pleasure dancing and playing their strange games. I
described the games before but this feast, we saw something different.
The game was played like chess but with Ebens standing on a large square
area of the compound. The squares were divided into 24 sets. Each set
had another 2 spots. Just how or why the Ebens moved was a mystery to
us. One of the Ebens would say a word and then another Eben would move.
It appeared that it was a team game. Six Ebens on each side. We couldn't
figure it out but at the end,, the Ebens danced with each other,
signifying a victory, we think. It was a fun day. My team played
softball, with some hard nosed Ebens, who have learned the game. Well
for the most part. They still haven't figured out they have to catch the
ball before it hits the ground. But they had fun. We have found some
extremely gifted athletics among the Ebens. Then again, we found some
who had no athletic ability. Just like humans. Our softball game ended
when the rains came. We ended up inside the community building. We
finished our meals and separated to our living area. As we do each day,,
we have our end of day briefing. We check each other for psychological
condition and medical health. Our day ends and we start our eight hours
of rest. Ebens have a different period of time, as I mentioned before.
They rest about four hours, for every 10 hours working time. But we must
consider their hour is longer and that their days are longer. So we
stopped using our time and used the Eben time. It is difficult to
understand but this is only a diary. Once I return to Earth, I can
explain the time difference and how we had to use their time instead of
ours. I keep writing about the time in every diary entry but it is
important to note that even though we have been hear for about three
years, Earth time, we have given up Earth time and utilized the Eben
time. We tried to use their two suns as a counting system but that
didn't work. We then tried to use our own watches but that didn't work.
So we gave up our time pieces and just use the Eben's time tower. Each
village has one and it is easy to understand the symbols. Each symbols
means a certain time and certain work period. Ebe 2 came by after the
feast. Ebe 2 was concerned with 754. As I mentioned in one past entry,
754 became sick. But he has recovered. We don't know what he suffered
but 700 treated him with penicillin, which worked. We all have had some
sort of sickness since we've been here except 899, that guy is a solid
rock. He hasn't been sick, not even a cold. 706 and 754 are keeping
details records of each team member and their medical and physical
condition. We have tried to keep a steady physical fitness program since
we arrived. Some time we follow it and sometime we don't. But everyone
is in pretty good shape, at least physically. Mentally, that might be
another story. Some team members miss Earth, as I do. But no team member
has broke down or has needed some type of psychological help from 700 or
754. Our screening process was great. Keeping busy is our medicine. We
keep extremely busy, exploring and doing our mission goals. At one of
our team meeting recently, 203 and myself decided to give up the
military greetings, saluting that each member did the first time they
saw us. I decided we maintain our military bearing and manners but we
will give up the saluting. Each team member agreed. I have no problem
with that. The Ebens just starred at us when we did that. But they also
have their greetings. Ebens exchange greetings depending on the time of
day. They hug on certain times, touch fingers on other times and bow at
other times. We still haven't figure out why they do that. Ebe 2 just
explained it was a formal greeting method. Ebens live a very strict
life. They keep a regimented life style. We have seen some variances but
only by a few. The military keeps everyone in line. The military acts as
a police force, as I mentioned before. They do not carry any weapons but
they do have different uniforms and every Eben respects that uniform.
The military are patrolling all the time. They walk in pairs and seem to
be extremely friendly but can be very strict. We saw two Ebens walking
across a field. Two military members quickly approached the two Ebens
and pointed to a building. The two Ebens walked to that building with
the military members. The military members were yelling something at
them. At the time, neither 420 or 475 were available for translation but
I figured those two Ebens violated some custom or law. We have been
warned by the military when we approach something we are not suppose to
approach. The military are very respectful when they deal with us but
they don't allow us to violate any of their customs or laws without
warning us. When we first killed one of the sand snakes, we had six
military members at the scene in no time. It took a great deal of
diplomacy to deal with that situation. But the military never touched us
nor threatened us. The Ebens have adjusted to us just as we have
adjusted to them. We carry on our mission and they allow us to do just
about anything. The one forbidden act is not to enter a private living
house. We did that once and was politely escorted out by the military.
There seems to be more military than actually needed. They do have
weapons, as I mentioned before. We rarely see any military member with
those weapons. But we have seen them during the alert that occurred some
time ago. Ebe 2 came into our living compound, just after one of our
rest periods. Ebe 2 was excited and told us to stay inside and not to
exit our living quarters. We asked why and Ebe 2 said that an unknown
spacecraft had entered their planet's orbit. But Ebe 2 assured us that
the military will take care of the problem. We naturally went into our
own alert. We issued our weapons and stood by to guard our living area.
We violated her instructions and went outside. We watched the skies and
saw a lot of air traffic. We then saw all the military members with
weapons and something that looked like field packs. They were in full
fighting gear, as 899 called it. The alert didn't last very long and Ebe
2 came back, looked at us a little curious and then told us everything
was alright and the alert was over. We asked her if the unknown
spacecraft was identified. She said it wasn't a spacecraft but just a
natural piece of space debris and left it at that. We didn't believe her
but we had no way of knowing any difference. We returned to our normal
routines

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Posting Fifteen (a) by Anonymous (28 March, 2006)

[BR: This message was posted by Victor Martinez to his list on 28 March
2006. Comments in square brackets in the e-mail message below are by
Victor Martinez.]

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From: ANONYMOUS
Date: Mon, Mar 27, 2006, 11:01 p.m. (PST+3)
––– POSTING 15a ADDENDUM –––
Subject: EXPLANATION OF ALIEN DRAWINGS aka 'EBEN OBJECTS'

VICTOR:

Here is the explanation of the Alien Drawing or 'Eben Objects' as
referred to on the www.serpo.org/ Web site posted by Bill [Ryan].

A great deal of planning went into the 10-year mission to SERPO [turned
into 13 years]. Several teams of officials planned what equipment to
take. These officials tried to imagine every conceivable situation where
certain types of tools and other equipment might be needed.

One area was capturing the view and makeup of objects, artifacts and
landscapes on Planet SERPO. The Mission Team took cameras, 16 different
types of cameras and drawing/drafting equipment.

Although no Team Member was trained in drafting, three Team Members had
drawing experience from their college days. Several different types of
drafting templates were taken on the trip. The planning officials tried
to envision every type of situation where a template might be needed.

The drawing ['Eben Object'], made by the Team Commander, depicts the
base of the sundial [used globally by the Ebens on SERPO]. Each object
meant a certain time of day to the Ebens. When the sun was directed --
through the sundial -- onto the object at the base of the sundial, that
meant a specific task [or change of] to the Ebens.

For example, it might signal a change in work schedules, a time to rest,
a time to eat, a time to celebrate, etc. After a few years, the Team
learned each symbol and learned the meaning of each symbol.

This drawing is a copy of the actual drawing made by the Team Commander
in 1967. The Team also took many photographs of the sundial symbols.

I know our detractors and skeptics will still harbor doubts about our
message and incredible mission, but this will have to suffice for now
short of the actual photographs which the debunkers would still find
problems with.

Glad to be in touch with you and I'll be in contact again soon.

ANONYMOUS

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.rtf). It can be seen that the components of the drawing are separate.
To see this more clearly, also click here
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Posting Seventeen by Anonymous (3 April, 2006)

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2006. Comments in square brackets below are by Victor Martinez.]

VICTOR:

The following information pertains to the equipment our Team took to
Planet SERPO. All of the military equipment was real,... at least back
then.

LIST OF SUPPLIES TAKEN BY "Project CRYSTAL KNIGHT" Team Members [which
was later renamed "Project SERPO" once the seven (7) Team Members
returned in 1978 and the report was finalized in 1980]:

1) MUSIC – The Team Members took the following types of music:

Elvis Presley
Buddy Holly
Ricky Nelson
The Kingston Trio
Brenda Lee
The Beach Boys
Bob Dylan
Peter Paul & Mary
The Beatles
Loretta Lynn
Simon & Garfunkel
The Hollies
Chubby Checker
Bing Crosby
Dinah Shore
Vera Lynn
Tommy Dorsey
Ted Lewis
Ethel Merman
Everly Brothers
Lesley Gore
Marline Dietrich
The Patters
Doris Day
Connie Francis
Shirelles Lyrics
Frank Sinatra
Dean Martin
Perry Como
Guy Lombardo
Glenn Miller
Rosemary Clooney
Al Jolson;

Christmas Music
U.S. Patriotic Music;

Classical Music:
Mozart
Hansel
Bach
Schubert
Mendelssohn
Rossini
Strauss
Beethoven
Brahms
Chopin
Tchaikovsky
Vivaldi

Indian Chanting Music
Tibetan Chants
African Chants [these last three (3) for the intended benefit of the
Eben hosts].

2) CLOTHING – The Team Members took the following clothing:

24 pairs of specialized flight suits
112 pairs of underwear (pants/shirts)
220 pairs of socks
18 hats including jungle style and regular ball caps
50 different types of footwear
military clothing, load bearing belts and harnesses
military backpacks
30 pairs of civilian casual pants
shorts
sleeveless shirts
15 pairs of athletic shoes
100 pairs of athletic socks
eight (8) athletic supports
24 pairs of thermal underwear
24 pairs of thermal socks
six (6) pairs of cold weather boots
military-style hot weather clothing
60 pairs of gloves military work-style
10 containers of military-style sanitary gloves
six (6) pairs of cold weather gloves
10 laundry bags
disposal surgical gloves
military-style warm weather jackets
military-style cold weather jackets
civilian-style warm and cold weather jackets
10 pairs of warm weather sandals
24 military safety helmets
24 military-style flight helmets
1,000 yards of fabric for the repair and making of clothes.

3) MEDICAL EQUIPMENT – The Team Members took the following medical
equipment:

Portable X-ray machine
100 pre-packed medical kits for advance trauma care (military-style
battle field medical kits)
examination scopes for the stomach bladder and rectum
eye examination equipment
120 pre-packed surgical kits (military style)
120 pre-packed military field medicine kits (containing various
medicines)
30 military-style field medical sanitation kits
75 water testing kits (military style)
50 water testing kits (civilian)
75 FAST kits
1,200 food testing kits (military style)
500 pieces of miscellaneous surgical tools
5,000 packages of insect repellant (military style)
250 medical intravenous kits/with fluids
16 pre-packed medical testing kits (military style)
50 pre-packed medical testing kits (civilian)
five (5) military Medical Portable Hospital Tents with base
two (2) Military Medical Portable Deployment Kits
18 Military Medical Blood testing kits
three (3) portable military chemistry testing stations
two (2) Advanced Biological Testing Kits (civilian version)
15 Military Radiation Treatment Kits
1,000 pounds of miscellaneous medical equipment.

4) TESTING EQUIPMENT – The Team Members took the following testing
equipment:

100 pieces of geological testing items
2 military soil testing stations
two (2) chemistry testing stations (civilian)
six (6) radiation testing meters
two (2) military radiation testing stations
two (2) biological testing stations (civilian)
two (2) 100cc tractors
four (4) 100cc digging tool tractors
10 pre-packed military Soil Testing Kits
16 astronomical telescopes
two (2) Military Star Stations
four (4) military power generators (1-10,000 watts)
four (4) civilian power generators
experimental solar collecting equipment (military)
50 portable two-way radios with FM frequencies
six (6) military combat radio platform kits
50 pre-packed military radio repair kits
1,000 different frequency tubes
30 pre-packed military electrical testing and repair kits
three (3) solar testing stations (military)
one (1) experimental solar testing station
10 solar collection panels with collector containers
10 air sample collection kits (military)
five (5) air sample collection kits (civilian)
six (6) diamond drills
10 military special access kits
1,000 pounds of C-4 explosives with 500 blasting caps
detonating cord
time fuse
Military shape charges
one (1) Nuclear Detonating Kit.

5) MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT and ITEMS – The Team Members took the
following miscellaneous equipment/items:

100 military blankets
100 military sheets
24 pre-packed military combat deployment kits
80 pre-packed military combat tent kits
four (4) military mobile kitchen deployable kits
six (6) military survival stations –warm weather
six (6) military survival stations –cold weather
2 military weather stations – combat style
50 military weather balloons
24 military handguns
24 military rifles (M-16s)
six (6) M-66 weapons
two (2) M-40 grenade launchers
two (2) military 60mm motor tube (30 rounds)
100 military air burst flares
5,000 rounds of .223 ammunition [M-16 assault rifles]
500 rounds of .45 ammunition
60 M-40 rounds
15 Freon dispersal containers
15 compressed air dispersal containers
20 tanks of oxygen gas
20 tanks of nitrogen gas
20 tanks of miscellaneous gases for cutting equipment and testing
75 military-style sleeping bags
60 military-style pillows
55 military-style sleeping platforms
six (6) pre-packed military deployment combat field living platforms
250 different style padlocks
6,000 feet of different types of rope
24 repelling kits
10 seismic deep hole drills
1,000 gallons of fuel
four (4) military-style phonographs
10 Military cassette players
10 reel-to-reel tape players
60 belts
10 military sound collection equipment kits
25 military Intelligence Collection Kits
1,000 other miscellaneous items.

6) VEHICLES – The Team Members took the following vehicles:

10 military-style combat motorcycles
three (3) military M-151 Jeeps
three (3) military trailers
10 Military repair kits for jeeps
10 Military repair kits for the motorcycles
one (1) Military lawn mower
1,500 gallons of fuel for all of the above items.

7) FOOD – The Team Members took the following food items:

C-Rations
25 pre-packed containers
100 pre-packed containers of freeze-dried food items
100 cases of various canned food items
seven (7) years worth of vitamins
100 containers of energy bars/snack items
1,000 gallons of water
150 military survival food kits
16 boxes of various alcoholic wines
150 cases of drinking fluids
chewing gum, lifesaver candy and various other miscellaneous food items.

8) MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS – The Team Members took 2,000 pounds of
various other items.

More to come....

ANONYMOUS

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Look, just go and search for black program and you will discover all the
truth regarding of this.

How about the ancient Former Canadian Defence Minister Paul Hellyer who
is telling the truth about all the cover up lie about the Global Elite
and how he is worry about a Galactic War that the Global Elite are
preparing because they don't want to surround the planet because
they to egocentric because they want to rule as one gouvernment in a
dictactorphip technocorpocratic oligarhic world!!!! They are crazy!!!!
http://www.jerrypippin.com/UFO_Files_toronto_exopolitics_symposium.htm
<http://www.jerrypippin.com/UFO_Files_toronto_exopolitics_symposium.htm>

How about Phil Schneider who as being killed because want to expose the
lying of the NWO plan and because he was a engineer who construct the
NWO under underground base and even fight against alien large Gray
extraterrestrials. Just look at this, this guy his a truth patriot who
die for his country and because of that they kill him, the NWO criminals
terminated him! Don't you think it's not the time to expose
them!???? http://www.apfn.org/apfn/phil.htm
<http://www.apfn.org/apfn/phil.htm>

http://www.think-aboutit.com/dulce/Y92SNIDR.html
<http://www.think-aboutit.com/dulce/Y92SNIDR.html>

An American Truth Hero and Patriot !!!!

How about even William"Bill" Cooper another patriot hero! I mean
just search inside the military branch and you will notice how well the
cover up it's totally real! You can have all the information of this
book on the internet.
http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hourofthetime.com/images/Book-BAPH.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hourofthetime.com/index2.html&h=218&w=144&sz=11&tbnid=scTwDlClKNY6uM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=67&hl=fr&start=25&prev=/images%3Fq%3DWilliam%2BBill%2BCooper%26start%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dfr%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN
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BEHOLD A PALE HORSE it's book !

Another American Truth Hero and Patriot !

NASA it's a front organisation to waste our money in the black space
secret program of the NWO for the Global Elite International Bankers
occultism adoring Satan! They are crazy!!! The NASA it's a fake
organization as the others space program agency in the world !!!!!!!!!!

They are killing babies' dam it for their rituals!
BABIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean all our history is disinformation! Everything they are saying to
us it's systematically a lie to impose their own really when outside
our planet we have billion of civilisation world where they are here to
help us and waking up to make our ascension to a higher reality!

We need to wake up folk because they want us (The Galactic Confederation
of Light) to rise up and expose the Global Elite and end the American
regime where the secret society, the Skull&Bones are working for them
(Global Elite) and are sold out to them. As a whole we are enough
numerous to fight them back. That's mean everybody, the aliens, the
black, the white, the yellow, the whatever the color is just regroup
expose them and fight them to create a planetary revolution of
conscouinness by liberating the U.S. and then the rest of the world will
follow the move!!! If 10% of the population ask for help the Galactic
Confederation of Light they will intervene directly but we have to ask
them first and fight back the NWO together as one!!!

In you and me, late make sure it's us that bring them down and not
the Galactic Confederation of Light because WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR
RESPOSIBILITIES BY SHRINK THEM OUT OF OUR LAND AND PLANET ONE AND FOR
ALL ! LET'S DO SO AND ACT NOW!!!!

WAKE UP PEOPLE! WE ARE NOT ALONE AND LET'S RISING AND FIGHT IN ALL
PART OF THE WORLD THIS NEW WORLD ORDER GLOBAL ELITE INTERNATIOAL BANKER
WITH ALL THEIR SECRET SATANIC SOCIETIES AND ANY ONE WHO ARE ZIONIST
SATANIC WORKING FOR THE GLOBAL ELITE! LET'S LIBERATE THIS PLANET
WITH OUR MAIN WEAPON, CONSCOUINNESS AS ONE, THE WHOLE, TOGETHER!

WAKE UP FOLK IT'S TIME TO EXPOSE THE LIES!

LET'S ACT NOW!

IT'S ALL I HAVE SO SAY!

9/11 Controlled Demolition with the Secret Societies and Skull&Bones
with Global Elite Syndicate Criminals Bankers, black military programs
with the New World Order agenda and Steven Harper in the Bilderberg
Group as a puppet gouvernment for N.W.O/Attentat du 11 Septembre
démolition contrôlé les Skull&Bones responsible avec
l'Élite Criminel Syndical des Banquiers Internationaux, programmes
noir militaire avec leur Agenda du Nouvel Ordre Mondial et Steven Harper
membre du groupe des Bilderberg et agent du N.O.M.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Skeletons.htm
<http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Skeletons.htm> ,
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/metasystems/Topics.html
<http://perso.wanadoo.fr/metasystems/Topics.html>

http://www.barruel.com/hist-nom.html
<http://www.barruel.com/hist-nom.html> ,
http://www.voltairenet.org/article14367.html
<http://www.voltairenet.org/article14367.html> , http://www.wingtv.net/
<http://www.wingtv.net/>

http://www.wingtv.net/todaysshow/humancheck_check.php
<http://www.wingtv.net/todaysshow/humancheck_check.php> (Syndicate
Crime)

http://www.pentagonresearch.com/ <http://www.pentagonresearch.com/> ,
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/ <http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/> ,
http://www.loosechange911.com/ <http://www.loosechange911.com/>

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=911
<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=911>

http://www.alienufo.org/modules.php?name=Topics
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Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 08:02:35 -0000
From: "kennendyone" <kennendyone@yahoo.com>
Subject: *****EXPOSE THE LIES NOW!*****

Destruction of America by the Global Elite

http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/scot_ufo_investigation.htm
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Look a this!!! http://www.serpo.org/information.html
<http://www.serpo.org/information.html>

Project Serpo
The Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program

The gradual release of confidential documents pertaining to a top secret
exchange program of twelve US military personnel to Serpo, a planet of
Zeta Reticuli, between the years 1965-78

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The original posting by Anonymous, and three apparently independent
supporting comments from other list members

First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a
retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great
details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.

As for Roswell, it occurred, but not like the story books tell. There
were two crash sites. One southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the second
site at Pelona Peak, south of Datil, New Mexico.

I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program. I once
heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe, but she didn't have
much information.

I've monitored your e-mails for about six months. I've read e-mails from
you and others. But I've never seen nor heard the truth about the real
Roswell incident or the exchange program.

I'd like to hear what others say about this.

Comment 1 (by Gene Loscowski):

Who is this person? Most of the information is absolutely correct.

As for the Roswell incident. Whomever sent the e-mail is correct.

[Clarification by Victor Martinez, 1 December: Ths project
classification was provided by Paul McGovern, not Gene Loscowski.
Apologies for the error.]

Comment 2 (by Paul McGovern):

Comment 3 (by "Anonymous II"):

I would prefer you keep my name private.

But here is my evaluation of the information from "Anonymous."

3. I'd like to contact this source. I have about a million questions to
ask!

I heard Linda Howe speak about the exchange program some years ago. I
always wondered where she got her information.

Keep up the excellent work!

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Posting Two by Anonymous (4 November, 2005)

Paul is not correct. There were two females, one being a doctor and the
other being a linguist.

Once the team arrived on the Eben planet, it took them several months to
adjust to the atmosphere. During the adjustment period, they suffered
headaches, dizziness and disorientation.

The Army politely escorted them away and cautioned them not to do it
again.

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Posting Three by Anonymous (7 November, 2005)

The Grays, which some people characterize as being like the Ebens, were
not. They came from a planet near Alpha Centauri A.

The third class of visitors came from a G2 star system in Leo.

Another class of visitors came from a G2 star system in Epsilon Eridani.

[EPSILON ERIDANI is one of the closest naked-eye stars to our Sun. It is
10.5 light years way with a magnitude of 3.7. Although somewhat cooler
and fainter than the Sun, it is otherwise similar.]

The visitors were classified by a code. The code, which was classified
in itself, was, "Extraterrestrial Entities" (ETE). ETE-2 were the Ebens,
the Grays were ETE-3, and so on.

The creatures were more like robots, although they were intelligent and
could make decisions. They might be the "hostile" visitors that some
people report.

To the best of my knowledge, we have NOT had any visitation since 1985
from the Ebens.

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Posting Four by Anonymous (9 November, 2005)

Now, considering this, you can understand the difficult job our team
members had making calculations without time. They had to come up with
an alternate method to measure speeds, orbits, etc.

Challenge: Try solving a problem in physics without being able to
measure time on Earth!

CONCLUSION: One of the things our Earth-based scientists learned was not
to apply Earth's laws of physics in a universal way.

Serpo was estimated to be about three billion years old. The two suns
were about five billion years old, but only by estimation.

Comment (by Paul McGovern):

Sometimes the truth is hard to understand, especially by closed minded
people.

Just keep an open mind, people. Once you close that mind, you are lost
in your own misguided thoughts....

The complete debriefing accounts for about three thousand pages.

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Posting Five by Anonymous (13 November, 2005)

We'll let you know.

I will provide some answers to the many questions once I find them.
Remember, I have over 3,000 pages of to view and another two sizeable
volumes of other supplementary data.

I've studied the documents and debriefing data. I cannot find answers to
everyone's questions, but I did find some answers especially to those
posed by UFO thread list member, Bill Ryan.

[Bill Ryan's questions]

6) Another question pertained to the team make up. Why were only two
females taken?

8) Why are there only 650,000 in the Eben civilization?

11) Serpo moved around one sun only. The other sun was within the two
orbits. As I said before, there are hundreds of pages of calculations in
the debriefing explaining all of this.

12) Why some Team Members remained!

13) Each Team Member received a large dose or radiation during their
stay on Serpo. Most of the Team Members died later of radiation-related
illnesses.

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Posting Six by Anonymous (14 November, 2005)

You will be honored one day for providing assistance in our release of
information. Many thanks.

I do not feel that a dialogue or argument with non-believers would
benefit our cause. They have the right to critizice our information, but
none of them will ever be involved in the final process.

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Posting Seven by Anonymous (17 November, 2005)

Here are some geological facts regarding Serpo our Team Members
compiled:

The planet's diameter was measured at about 7,218 miles.

The surface gravity was 9.60m/s2.

The rotation periods was approximately 43 hours.

Moving to Quadrant 3, the Team found a form of Badlands: An arid region
that is lined with deep gullies with sparse vegetation. The gullies or
valleys were extremely deep, some going down 3,000 feet.

Another animal looked like a Mountain Lion, but had long fur around the
neck. This animal was curious, but was not considered hostile by the
Ebens.

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Posting by Anonymous (18 November, 2005)

[In response to specific questions]

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Posting by Anonymous (20 November, 2005)

There are numerous figures and calculations to support this. I will
forward them at a later date. Have your list stay tuned.

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Posting by Anonymous (25 November, 2005)

In response to the intensive ongoing debate recorded in the Comments
section of this site, I would like to endorse this clarification from a
prominent physicist on the list:

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Posting Eight by Anonymous (29 November, 2005)

I decided to concentrate this release on the "Team" and their selection
process, communication problems and the final exchange. There have been
many questions pertaining to these issues.

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Posting Nine by Anonymous (30 November, 2005)

As with weapons, each Team Member had a handgun and rifle. The Ebens
realized these were weapons, but again never questioned why the Team
Members were bringing them along.

But each Team Member never carried the weapons except during their
exploration of Serpo and then only certain Team Members carried them.

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Posting Ten by Anonymous (2 December, 2005)

http://archive.alienzoo.com/filmandtv/mikefarrellcoverup.html
<http://archive.alienzoo.com/filmandtv/mikefarrellcoverup.html>

www.ufoseek.org/fatimajv.htm
<http://www.serpo.org/www.ufoseek.org/fatimajv.htm>

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5 December: clarification by Victor Martinez

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Posting by Anonymous (8 December, 2005)

I called Mr. _____ this morning.

[ EX U.S.G OFFICIAL WHO IS MANAGING THE CONTROLLED RELEASE OF "Project
SERPO" FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION ]

I found some discrepancies about the animals mentioned on the show.

— Only the snake-like creature was aggressive, which forced the Team
to kill one. The snake-like creatures were located in just one location
and the Team never saw another one.

Bill did a great job promoting the Web site, Serpo.org and the
information contained therein.

Don't distribute the photographs through your huge UFO thread list. Just
leave it on the Serpo.org Web site for Web site Administrator Bill Ryan
to post.

You'll love them!

[BR: We don't yet know when to expect these photographs. It may be
several weeks yet – possibly even in the New Year. We ask all
readers to be patient, as we are ourselves.]

Enough for now; I must go back to bed. Keep up the great work.

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Posting Eleven by Anonymous (21 December, 2005)

REGARDING OUR TEAM MEMBERS

THE TEAM COMMANDER'S JOURNAL ENTRIES:

Additionally, I and the rest of the DIA-6 are working on the
photographs.

DAY 1

DAY 1 – ENTRY 2

DAY 2

ENTRY

[ END JOURNAL ENTRIES FROM TEAM COMMANDER ]

QUESTION: Please explain, for the enlightenment of all, the Eben Energy
Device (ED) found at the crash site.

ANONYMOUS: OK, I will answer this question. Dimensions: 9" x 11" x 1.5",
weight 26.7 oz. The ED [Energy Device] is clear and made of something
similar to hard plastic.

On the bottom left, there is a small square metal plate, possibly a
chip. It is one of the connector points.

On the bottom right, there is another small square metal point, which is
the second connector point.

I won't go into all the scientific nomenclature at this time [due to
national security implications]. This is just the basic information on
the ED, which is what a reader wanted to know.

REGARDING EBENS #1 - #5:

Ebe #1 was the crash survivor from the craft found in Corona, NM in
July, 1947.

Ebe #2 was the first exchange of an Eben scientist and was the second
visitor left on Earth. I don't know the exact time period of his stay.

Ebe #3 was a female scientist.

Let your exclusive UFO Thread List membership know that this subject
matter is closed and no future questions regarding this topic will be
addressed.

Why s/he or it was named J-ROD is classified. People have speculated
about that, and officially it means something, but that information
shall remain shielded from the public domain.

President Bill Clinton wanted to continue the exchange program, but
others in his administration thought it would be a mistake and overruled
him. It was terminated in 1994 with Ebe #5.

All surviving Team Members were carefully monitored and watched by a
special branch of the DIA. The last surviving Team Member died in 2002
in the State of Florida.

QUESTION FROM ROBERT STANLEY:

VICTOR: Can you give me more details re this statement?

"However, when he [Ebe #1] was taken to Washington, D.C. (very closely
controlled), the climate there (in late fall) was too cold for him."

— When did this occur?
— How long was EBE #1 there?
— Where did he stay?

Thank you.
ROBERT STANLEY
Unicus magazine

[FACTOID – Victor Martinez:

The final segment of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND which I viewed
does have 12 people, 10 men and two women. Twelve people are also the
number given in Spielberg's book version.

However, I got around to reading the end of Spielberg's paperback
version of CE3. It reads the same as the movie except for two
interesting things. The 12 Team Members are introduced as ALL MEN.

An additional dialogue not in the movie also takes place. They have a
sit down with Roy Neary and have him sign a number of documents. While
he signs the last one he is told the following:

"We have a possible problem in the area of canon and common
jurisprudence outside of the parameters of our astronomy. The case could
be made that you are, in effect, technically speaking... dead."

Is this a fancy way of saying that if anybody comes snooping around
about what happened to Roy, they now have the legal right to tell them
he is dead? Does that sound familiar?

"Spielberg tells me about the film. It's about UFOs, he says, but it is
not science fiction. He calls it 'science fact.'"

COMMENT: Makes you wonder how Spielberg got the numbers and gender count
right.

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Posting Thirteen (a) by Anonymous (28 January, 2006)

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Posting Thirteen (b) by Anonymous (28 January, 2006)

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Posting Fourteen by Anonymous (1 February, 2006)

Team Commander
Assistant Team Commander
Team Pilot #1
Team Pilot #2
Linguist #1
Linguist #2
Biologist
Scientist #1
Scientist #2
Doctor #1
Doctor #2
Security

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899

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Posting Fifteen by Anonymous (4 February, 2006)

The name of the image – Ebenobject – was given by Anonymous.

There were no labels, description, or any other explanation for the
diagram.

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Posting Sixteen by Anonymous (9 March, 2006)

[Note by BR: This posting was received by myself while at the Laughlin
UFO Congress, Nevada. There are two parts:

1) A sample of the Eben written language (original on left; sample
enlargement on right; click on either for a higher-resolution image);

2) A further instalment of the Team Commander's Log, posted verbatim as
before. The final sentence is also verbatim, and apparently incomplete.]

<http://www.serpo.org/Eben_script_lg.gif>
<http://www.serpo.org/Eben_script_lg.gif>

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Posting Fifteen (a) by Anonymous (28 March, 2006)

[BR: This message was posted by Victor Martinez to his list on 28 March
2006. Comments in square brackets in the e-mail message below are by
Victor Martinez.]

VICTOR:

Here is the explanation of the Alien Drawing or 'Eben Objects' as
referred to on the www.serpo.org/ Web site posted by Bill [Ryan].

One area was capturing the view and makeup of objects, artifacts and
landscapes on Planet SERPO. The Mission Team took cameras, 16 different
types of cameras and drawing/drafting equipment.

This drawing is a copy of the actual drawing made by the Team Commander
in 1967. The Team also took many photographs of the sundial symbols.

Glad to be in touch with you and I'll be in contact again soon.

ANONYMOUS

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Posting Seventeen by Anonymous (3 April, 2006)

[BR: This message was posted by Victor Martinez to his list on 3 April
2006. Comments in square brackets below are by Victor Martinez.]

VICTOR:

The following information pertains to the equipment our Team took to
Planet SERPO. All of the military equipment was real,... at least back
then.

LIST OF SUPPLIES TAKEN BY "Project CRYSTAL KNIGHT" Team Members [which
was later renamed "Project SERPO" once the seven (7) Team Members
returned in 1978 and the report was finalized in 1980]:

1) MUSIC – The Team Members took the following types of music:

Christmas Music
U.S. Patriotic Music;

Classical Music:
Mozart
Hansel
Bach
Schubert
Mendelssohn
Rossini
Strauss
Beethoven
Brahms
Chopin
Tchaikovsky
Vivaldi

Indian Chanting Music
Tibetan Chants
African Chants [these last three (3) for the intended benefit of the
Eben hosts].

2) CLOTHING – The Team Members took the following clothing:

3) MEDICAL EQUIPMENT – The Team Members took the following medical
equipment:

4) TESTING EQUIPMENT – The Team Members took the following testing
equipment:

5) MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT and ITEMS – The Team Members took the
following miscellaneous equipment/items:

6) VEHICLES – The Team Members took the following vehicles:

7) FOOD – The Team Members took the following food items:

8) MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS – The Team Members took 2,000 pounds of
various other items.

More to come....

ANONYMOUS

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Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 08:07:49 -0000
From: "kennendyone" <kennendyone@yahoo.com>
Subject: *****EXPOSE THE LIES NOW!*****

Destruction of America by the Global Elite

http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/scot_ufo_investigation.htm
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Look a this!!! http://www.serpo.org/information.html
<http://www.serpo.org/information.html>

Project Serpo
The Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program

The gradual release of confidential documents pertaining to a top secret
exchange program of twelve US military personnel to Serpo, a planet of
Zeta Reticuli, between the years 1965-78

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The original posting by Anonymous, and three apparently independent
supporting comments from other list members

First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a
retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great
details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.

As for Roswell, it occurred, but not like the story books tell. There
were two crash sites. One southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the second
site at Pelona Peak, south of Datil, New Mexico.

I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program. I once
heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe, but she didn't have
much information.

I've monitored your e-mails for about six months. I've read e-mails from
you and others. But I've never seen nor heard the truth about the real
Roswell incident or the exchange program.

I'd like to hear what others say about this.

Comment 1 (by Gene Loscowski):

Who is this person? Most of the information is absolutely correct.

As for the Roswell incident. Whomever sent the e-mail is correct.

[Clarification by Victor Martinez, 1 December: Ths project
classification was provided by Paul McGovern, not Gene Loscowski.
Apologies for the error.]

Comment 2 (by Paul McGovern):

Comment 3 (by "Anonymous II"):

I would prefer you keep my name private.

But here is my evaluation of the information from "Anonymous."

3. I'd like to contact this source. I have about a million questions to
ask!

I heard Linda Howe speak about the exchange program some years ago. I
always wondered where she got her information.

Keep up the excellent work!

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Posting Two by Anonymous (4 November, 2005)

Paul is not correct. There were two females, one being a doctor and the
other being a linguist.

Once the team arrived on the Eben planet, it took them several months to
adjust to the atmosphere. During the adjustment period, they suffered
headaches, dizziness and disorientation.

The Army politely escorted them away and cautioned them not to do it
again.

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Posting Three by Anonymous (7 November, 2005)

The Grays, which some people characterize as being like the Ebens, were
not. They came from a planet near Alpha Centauri A.

The third class of visitors came from a G2 star system in Leo.

Another class of visitors came from a G2 star system in Epsilon Eridani.

[EPSILON ERIDANI is one of the closest naked-eye stars to our Sun. It is
10.5 light years way with a magnitude of 3.7. Although somewhat cooler
and fainter than the Sun, it is otherwise similar.]

The visitors were classified by a code. The code, which was classified
in itself, was, "Extraterrestrial Entities" (ETE). ETE-2 were the Ebens,
the Grays were ETE-3, and so on.

The creatures were more like robots, although they were intelligent and
could make decisions. They might be the "hostile" visitors that some
people report.

To the best of my knowledge, we have NOT had any visitation since 1985
from the Ebens.

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Posting Four by Anonymous (9 November, 2005)

Now, considering this, you can understand the difficult job our team
members had making calculations without time. They had to come up with
an alternate method to measure speeds, orbits, etc.

Challenge: Try solving a problem in physics without being able to
measure time on Earth!

CONCLUSION: One of the things our Earth-based scientists learned was not
to apply Earth's laws of physics in a universal way.

Serpo was estimated to be about three billion years old. The two suns
were about five billion years old, but only by estimation.

Comment (by Paul McGovern):

Sometimes the truth is hard to understand, especially by closed minded
people.

Just keep an open mind, people. Once you close that mind, you are lost
in your own misguided thoughts....

The complete debriefing accounts for about three thousand pages.

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Posting Five by Anonymous (13 November, 2005)

We'll let you know.

I will provide some answers to the many questions once I find them.
Remember, I have over 3,000 pages of to view and another two sizeable
volumes of other supplementary data.

I've studied the documents and debriefing data. I cannot find answers to
everyone's questions, but I did find some answers especially to those
posed by UFO thread list member, Bill Ryan.

[Bill Ryan's questions]

6) Another question pertained to the team make up. Why were only two
females taken?

8) Why are there only 650,000 in the Eben civilization?

11) Serpo moved around one sun only. The other sun was within the two
orbits. As I said before, there are hundreds of pages of calculations in
the debriefing explaining all of this.

12) Why some Team Members remained!

13) Each Team Member received a large dose or radiation during their
stay on Serpo. Most of the Team Members died later of radiation-related
illnesses.

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Posting Six by Anonymous (14 November, 2005)

You will be honored one day for providing assistance in our release of
information. Many thanks.

I do not feel that a dialogue or argument with non-believers would
benefit our cause. They have the right to critizice our information, but
none of them will ever be involved in the final process.

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Posting Seven by Anonymous (17 November, 2005)

Here are some geological facts regarding Serpo our Team Members
compiled:

The planet's diameter was measured at about 7,218 miles.

The surface gravity was 9.60m/s2.

The rotation periods was approximately 43 hours.

Moving to Quadrant 3, the Team found a form of Badlands: An arid region
that is lined with deep gullies with sparse vegetation. The gullies or
valleys were extremely deep, some going down 3,000 feet.

Another animal looked like a Mountain Lion, but had long fur around the
neck. This animal was curious, but was not considered hostile by the
Ebens.

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Posting by Anonymous (18 November, 2005)

[In response to specific questions]

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Posting by Anonymous (20 November, 2005)

There are numerous figures and calculations to support this. I will
forward them at a later date. Have your list stay tuned.

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Posting by Anonymous (25 November, 2005)

In response to the intensive ongoing debate recorded in the Comments
section of this site, I would like to endorse this clarification from a
prominent physicist on the list:

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Posting Eight by Anonymous (29 November, 2005)

I decided to concentrate this release on the "Team" and their selection
process, communication problems and the final exchange. There have been
many questions pertaining to these issues.

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Posting Nine by Anonymous (30 November, 2005)

As with weapons, each Team Member had a handgun and rifle. The Ebens
realized these were weapons, but again never questioned why the Team
Members were bringing them along.

But each Team Member never carried the weapons except during their
exploration of Serpo and then only certain Team Members carried them.

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Posting Ten by Anonymous (2 December, 2005)

http://archive.alienzoo.com/filmandtv/mikefarrellcoverup.html
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www.ufoseek.org/fatimajv.htm
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www.soc.org/opcam/a_autopsy/alienautopsy.html
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5 December: clarification by Victor Martinez

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Posting by Anonymous (8 December, 2005)

I called Mr. _____ this morning.

[ EX U.S.G OFFICIAL WHO IS MANAGING THE CONTROLLED RELEASE OF "Project
SERPO" FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION ]

I found some discrepancies about the animals mentioned on the show.

— Only the snake-like creature was aggressive, which forced the Team
to kill one. The snake-like creatures were located in just one location
and the Team never saw another one.

Bill did a great job promoting the Web site, Serpo.org and the
information contained therein.

Don't distribute the photographs through your huge UFO thread list. Just
leave it on the Serpo.org Web site for Web site Administrator Bill Ryan
to post.

You'll love them!

[BR: We don't yet know when to expect these photographs. It may be
several weeks yet – possibly even in the New Year. We ask all
readers to be patient, as we are ourselves.]

Enough for now; I must go back to bed. Keep up the great work.

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Posting Eleven by Anonymous (21 December, 2005)

REGARDING OUR TEAM MEMBERS

THE TEAM COMMANDER'S JOURNAL ENTRIES:

Additionally, I and the rest of the DIA-6 are working on the
photographs.

DAY 1

DAY 1 – ENTRY 2

DAY 2

ENTRY

[ END JOURNAL ENTRIES FROM TEAM COMMANDER ]

QUESTION: Please explain, for the enlightenment of all, the Eben Energy
Device (ED) found at the crash site.

ANONYMOUS: OK, I will answer this question. Dimensions: 9" x 11" x 1.5",
weight 26.7 oz. The ED [Energy Device] is clear and made of something
similar to hard plastic.

On the bottom left, there is a small square metal plate, possibly a
chip. It is one of the connector points.

On the bottom right, there is another small square metal point, which is
the second connector point.

I won't go into all the scientific nomenclature at this time [due to
national security implications]. This is just the basic information on
the ED, which is what a reader wanted to know.

REGARDING EBENS #1 - #5:

Ebe #1 was the crash survivor from the craft found in Corona, NM in
July, 1947.

Ebe #2 was the first exchange of an Eben scientist and was the second
visitor left on Earth. I don't know the exact time period of his stay.

Ebe #3 was a female scientist.

Let your exclusive UFO Thread List membership know that this subject
matter is closed and no future questions regarding this topic will be
addressed.

Why s/he or it was named J-ROD is classified. People have speculated
about that, and officially it means something, but that information
shall remain shielded from the public domain.

President Bill Clinton wanted to continue the exchange program, but
others in his administration thought it would be a mistake and overruled
him. It was terminated in 1994 with Ebe #5.

All surviving Team Members were carefully monitored and watched by a
special branch of the DIA. The last surviving Team Member died in 2002
in the State of Florida.

QUESTION FROM ROBERT STANLEY:

VICTOR: Can you give me more details re this statement?

"However, when he [Ebe #1] was taken to Washington, D.C. (very closely
controlled), the climate there (in late fall) was too cold for him."

— When did this occur?
— How long was EBE #1 there?
— Where did he stay?

Thank you.
ROBERT STANLEY
Unicus magazine

[FACTOID – Victor Martinez:

The final segment of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND which I viewed
does have 12 people, 10 men and two women. Twelve people are also the
number given in Spielberg's book version.

However, I got around to reading the end of Spielberg's paperback
version of CE3. It reads the same as the movie except for two
interesting things. The 12 Team Members are introduced as ALL MEN.

An additional dialogue not in the movie also takes place. They have a
sit down with Roy Neary and have him sign a number of documents. While
he signs the last one he is told the following:

"We have a possible problem in the area of canon and common
jurisprudence outside of the parameters of our astronomy. The case could
be made that you are, in effect, technically speaking... dead."

Is this a fancy way of saying that if anybody comes snooping around
about what happened to Roy, they now have the legal right to tell them
he is dead? Does that sound familiar?

"Spielberg tells me about the film. It's about UFOs, he says, but it is
not science fiction. He calls it 'science fact.'"

COMMENT: Makes you wonder how Spielberg got the numbers and gender count
right.

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Posting Thirteen (a) by Anonymous (28 January, 2006)

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Posting Thirteen (b) by Anonymous (28 January, 2006)

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Posting Fourteen by Anonymous (1 February, 2006)

Team Commander
Assistant Team Commander
Team Pilot #1
Team Pilot #2
Linguist #1
Linguist #2
Biologist
Scientist #1
Scientist #2
Doctor #1
Doctor #2
Security

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899

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Posting Fifteen by Anonymous (4 February, 2006)

The name of the image – Ebenobject – was given by Anonymous.

There were no labels, description, or any other explanation for the
diagram.

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Posting Sixteen by Anonymous (9 March, 2006)

[Note by BR: This posting was received by myself while at the Laughlin
UFO Congress, Nevada. There are two parts:

1) A sample of the Eben written language (original on left; sample
enlargement on right; click on either for a higher-resolution image);

2) A further instalment of the Team Commander's Log, posted verbatim as
before. The final sentence is also verbatim, and apparently incomplete.]

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Posting Fifteen (a) by Anonymous (28 March, 2006)

[BR: This message was posted by Victor Martinez to his list on 28 March
2006. Comments in square brackets in the e-mail message below are by
Victor Martinez.]

VICTOR:

Here is the explanation of the Alien Drawing or 'Eben Objects' as
referred to on the www.serpo.org/ Web site posted by Bill [Ryan].

One area was capturing the view and makeup of objects, artifacts and
landscapes on Planet SERPO. The Mission Team took cameras, 16 different
types of cameras and drawing/drafting equipment.

This drawing is a copy of the actual drawing made by the Team Commander
in 1967. The Team also took many photographs of the sundial symbols.

Glad to be in touch with you and I'll be in contact again soon.

ANONYMOUS

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Posting Seventeen by Anonymous (3 April, 2006)

[BR: This message was posted by Victor Martinez to his list on 3 April
2006. Comments in square brackets below are by Victor Martinez.]

VICTOR:

The following information pertains to the equipment our Team took to
Planet SERPO. All of the military equipment was real,... at least back
then.

LIST OF SUPPLIES TAKEN BY "Project CRYSTAL KNIGHT" Team Members [which
was later renamed "Project SERPO" once the seven (7) Team Members
returned in 1978 and the report was finalized in 1980]:

1) MUSIC – The Team Members took the following types of music:

Christmas Music
U.S. Patriotic Music;

Classical Music:
Mozart
Hansel
Bach
Schubert
Mendelssohn
Rossini
Strauss
Beethoven
Brahms
Chopin
Tchaikovsky
Vivaldi

Indian Chanting Music
Tibetan Chants
African Chants [these last three (3) for the intended benefit of the
Eben hosts].

2) CLOTHING – The Team Members took the following clothing:

3) MEDICAL EQUIPMENT – The Team Members took the following medical
equipment:

4) TESTING EQUIPMENT – The Team Members took the following testing
equipment:

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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 01:08:31 -0700
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Subject: Fw: unemployment & inflation 2 or 3 times higher than official statistics -=- Greens back Malthus -=-London mayor Ken Livingstone attacked by Jews

From: "Peter Myers" <myers@cyberone.com.au>

April 7, 2006

(1) Friedrich Engels vs Malthus' theory of population; Greens back Malthus
(2) Real unemployment & inflation 2 or 3 times higher than official statistics
(3) Boy birth rate dropping
(4) Poor countries claiming a share of the revenue from transfer pricing
(5) Global Trade Watch E-Newsletter #38 - March 2006
(6) & (7) London mayor Ken Livingstone outrages Jewish leaders
(8) Red Ken In Rumpus Fury Probe Bid

(1) Friedrich Engels vs Malthus' theory of population; Greens back Malthus

Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:32:21 -0400 (EDT) From:
owner-thedishlist@treet.ctinetworks.com

Thomas Robert Malthus (1766-1834)

"The power of population is so superior to the power of the earth to produce
subsistence for man, that premature death must in some shape or other visit the
human race. The vices of mankind are active and able ministers of depopulation.
They are the precursors in the great army of destruction; and often finish the
dreadful work themselves. But should they fail in this war of extermination,
sickly seasons, epidemics, pestilence, and plague, advance in terrific array,
and sweep off their thousands and tens of thousands. Should success be still
incomplete, gigantic inevitable famine stalks in the rear, and with one mighty
blow levels the population with the food of the world."

Thomas R. Malthus was born February 13, 1766 to a prosperous United Kingdom
family. Privately educated before entering Jesus College in Cambridge (1784), he
studied mathematics and earned honors in Greek and Latin. In 1791, he earned a
Masters of Arts degree. On June 10, 1793, he was elected a fellow of Jesus
College, a post he held until his marriage to a first cousin (1804).

In 1797, Malthus was ordained and became an Anglican country parson. He
maintained a lifelong connection with the Church. It is believed he rarely
officiated; he had a speech impediment that resulted from a common familial
birth defect -- a cleft palate.

Based on observations made during his travels, Malthus disagreed with optimistic
views on improving society expressed by his father, Daniel, and his associates.
In 1798, at the urging of his father, Malthus anonymously published An Essay on
the Principle of Population, as It Affects the Future Improvement of Society in
which he predicted population growth would outpace food supply. He was
identified as the essay's author in subsequent publications in 1803, 1806, 1807,
1817 and 1826.

Malthus' population principle was based on the notion that the population of
humans and other species, if unchecked, grew exponentially, i.e., 2, 4, 8, 16,
32, 64, 128, etc., outstripping the food supply, which only increased
arithmetically, i.e., 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, etc. Malthus advocated moral
restraint, including late marriage and sexual abstinence, as a check on
population growth. Of special note, this proposed solution was only for the
lower socioeconomic classes, which were seen as responsible for the problem.
Malthus also advocated abolishing the Poor Laws, which provided relief for those
most in need. He believed these measures worked against the long-term interests
of the needy. In the event moral restraint failed, Malthus accepted war, famine
and disease as positive checks on population growth.

Friedrich Engels, in Outlines of a Critique of Political Economy (1844), called
Malthus' theory "...the crudest, most barbarous theory that ever existed, a
system of despair which struck down all those beautiful phrases about love thy
neighbour and world citizenship." Though severely criticized by people in nearly
every profession, Malthus' theory of population was greatly influential among
classical economists David Ricardo and others; Malthus' theory forms the basis
of classical economic theories of wages and rents.

Malthus' pessimistic predictions and concepts of unemployment and diminishing
marginal productivity did much to make economics the "dismal science." Widely
regarded as the founder of modern demography, his theory helped promote the idea
of a national Census in the UK.

In 1805, Malthus became the first professor of political economy at the East
India Company College at Haileybury in Hertfordshire. In 1818, he was selected
as a Fellow of the Royal Society. He held memberships in the Political Economy
Club, the Royal Society of Literature, the French Académie des Sciences Morales
et Politiques and the Royal Academy of Berlin. In 1834, he co-founded the
Statistical Society of London.

His other works include "An Inquiry into the Nature and Progress of Rent" (1815)
and "Principles of Political Economy" (1820). Malthus died of heart failure
December 29, 1834. (Sources: www.voyager.co.nz/~malthi/, Encyclopaedia
Britannica, www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1798malthus.htmland
www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/malthus.html) ...

Hood Notes: Pianka's Proposal

It sounds like science fiction, too horrible to contemplate. But, according to
Forrest M. Mims, III, Chairman of the Environmental Science Section of the Texas
Academy of Science, and editor of the Citizen Scientist, some dare give voice to
the unthinkable with gleeful relish. Mims attended the 109th meeting of the
Texas Academy of Science (www.texasacademyofscience.org/) at Lamar University in
Beaumont on March 3-5, 2006.

A modern-day Malthus, world-renowned evolutionary ecologist and lizard expert
Dr. Eric R. Pianka addressed the meeting. According to Mims, a minute before
Pianka began to speak an academy official approached a video camera operator at
the front of the auditorium. At the end of the conversation, the camera operator
pointed the camera lens to the ceiling and walked away. Once Professor Pianka
began his address, the need to keep his remarks private became evident. The
general public will never be ready to hear Pianka's proposal.

Declaring humans are no better than bacteria, Pianka laid out his concerns about
human overpopulation and its devastating impact on the planet. Pianka warned
that saving the Earth required quick drastic measures. Offering no data to
justify his planetary prognosis, Pianka asserted that the only feasible solution
is to reduce Earth's population.

In discarding war and famine as final solutions to the dilemma, Pianka proposed
disease as the most efficient and fastest way to kill the more than five
billions that need to die to solve the population crisis and save the planet for
the elite 10 percent. Pianka dismissed AIDS as an inefficient killer, because it
is too slow. He suggested an airborne Ebola (Ebola reston), because it is both
highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years.

At the end of Pianka's speech, the audience erupted in appreciative applause. He
was later presented the Academy's 2006 Distinguished Texas Scientist award.
Again, the audience of some 400, which apparently shares Pianka's views and
embraces his extermination plan applauded.

In "Meeting Doctor Doom," Mims recounts Pianka's speech and his plan in the
current issue of the Citizen Scientist at www.sas.org.

(2) Real unemployment & inflation 2 or 3 times higher than official statistics

Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:32:21 -0400 (EDT) From:
owner-thedishlist@treet.ctinetworks.com

News You Use: "Real" Economic Data

A recent survey shows 59 percent of the respondents rate the US economy as bad,
very bad, or terrible. According to Fox News guests, the "liberal" media is to
blame for the public's negative perception. These talking heads claim that just
like they ignore all the great things happening in Iraq, the "liberal" media are
failing to report the great economic news coming out of Washington. The good
news include low unemployment and inflation rates, rising "average" take home
pay, a strong gross national product (GNP), relatively low interest rates and a
robust stock market.

To the contrary, economist Walter J. (John) Williams, who has a pay website at
http://www.shadowstats.com, says `real' unemployment and inflation numbers, when
figured the old-fashioned way, may be two or three times higher than the
government data show. An interview with Williams, a practicing economists, on
his number crunching has been published by Kate Welling on the free portion of
her site at www.weedenco.com/welling/lilogo.asp.

In the eight-page interview, Williams reveals the government data flaws,
starting with the low unemployment rate. According to Williams, "Real
unemployment right now -- figured the way that the average person thinks of
unemployment, meaning figured the way it was estimated back during the Great
Depression -- is running about 12%. Real CPI right now is running at about 8%.
And the real GDP probably is in contraction."

Not only is the current administration not figuring economic statistics the
old-fashioned way, without obfuscation, the previous administration
systematically manipulated employment data to show an average 250,000 jobs a
month were created. As shown by the recent survey, the public is not fooled by
the systematic data manipulation.

Following their government, which is more than $8.3 trillion in debt and shows
no inclination to end deficit spending, US households are deeply in debt and
saving nothing. Unlike the government, households cannot print money, and their
ability to borrow against home equity is rapidly ending. In addition, the public
knows the dollar buys less, despite the "official" low consumer price index
(CPI). Moreover, they are also aware that the unemployment numbers do not
reflect conditions on the ground. There are more poor people; the number of
homeless persons, foreclosures and personal bankruptcies are increasing.

(3) Boy birth rate dropping

Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:48:02 +0500 From: "Eric Walberg" <eric@albatros.uz>

Boy birth rate dropping

Pollution blamed for increased proportion of girl babies.

Dateline: Tuesday, April 04, 2006

by Geoffrey Lean, for The Independent on Sunday (London)

The answer to this mystery could lie in a small town in Canada.

Something very strange is happening in a small but highly polluted Canadian
community. And it may explain why every year thousands of British babies who
should be boys are born as girls instead.

Young boys are becoming hard to find on the Chippewa Indian reservation in the
gritty town of Sarnia, in Ontario's "Chemical Valley". It boasts four children's
softball teams, but three of them are made up entirely of girls.

Research shows that the number of boys being born to the community has been
dropping precipitously for the past 13 years, while the proportion of baby girls
has risen. Now there are twice as many female births as male ones, though nature
normally keeps the sexes in balance.

Scientists increasingly believe that pollution is to blame and that what has
happened here - and among some other highly contaminated groups of people in
other countries - may solve an enduring mystery of "missing boys" in maternity
units throughout the industrialised world.

Normally, and with remarkable consistency around the globe, 106 boys are born
for every 100 girls; the excess is thought to be nature's way of compensating
for the fact that males were more likely to be killed through hunting and
conflicts.

But this figure has been slowly declining in rich countries over the past
quarter of a century. In Britain it has fallen to about 105 since 1977 - which
suggests that every year more than 3,000 babies are born as girls instead boys.
Studies have revealed much the same story in the US, Canada, the Netherlands and
the Scandinavian countries.

Suggested explanations have included increasing stress and rising numbers of
single mothers; women in difficulties, it has been found, produce more girls
than boys. But what is happening in Sarnia, on the US Canadian border, is
increasingly turning the spotlight on pollution.

The Chippewa Indians of the Aamjiwnaang First Nation Community have long lived
in the area, on the southern tip of Lake Huron, not far from Detroit. Their
right to the land was confirmed in 1827, but much of it was taken over by
industry in the 1960s.

Now their woods and homes are entirely surrounded by one of the world's most
extensive petrochemical complexes, producing 40 percent of Canada's entire
output of plastics, synthetic rubber and other chemical compounds. The air
stinks, and the ground is contaminated with high levels of dangerous pollutants.

It was those softball teams that first got the 870 people of the community
thinking that many more girls than boys were being born. Among them was Ada
Lockridge, a 42-year-old home help aide, who sits on the community's council.
She and her sister had eight daughters between them, and only one son. ...

For the whole story, go to the related site below.

http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article355200.ece

(4) Poor countries claiming a share of the revenue from transfer pricing

Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 15:39:33 +0100 From: "christensen tjn"
<christensen.tjn@neweconomics.org>

Tax Justice Focus - Volume 2, No. 1

Print edition:
www.taxjustice.net/cms/upload/pdf/Tax_Justice_Focus_Q1__vol_2_no_1__2006.pdf

Screen edition:
www.taxjustice.net/cms/upload/pdf/Tax_Justice_Focus_Q1_2006__vol_2_no_1.pdf

From the Editor

How do poorer countries fare when they enter into trading relationships with
international business? Who really benefits from the foreign investment that
enters developing countries encouraged principally by generous tax incentives?
And how might global governance on trade and tax issues be improved? These are
among the questions addressed in this trade issue of Tax Justice Focus.

In our leader article, Pulp reality, tax fiction, Jorma Penttinen assesses the
true costs and benefits of a huge pulp factory being built in Uruguay by Finnish
firm Botnia. In our opinion piece, The WTO and taxation, Jennifer Ferrell
outlines that organisation's main areas of influence in trade related tax
matters and asks whether the WTO could play a bigger role in global governance
on tax.

In our review section, chartered accountant and tax expert Richard Murphy
explains the significance of the Ernst & Young Transfer Pricing Reference Guide
and is encouraged by the growing number of countries - particularly developing
and emerging economies - that are staking their claim on a share of the revenue
from transfer pricing. Also in the review section, John Christensen looks at the
recent book by Joseph Stiglitz and Andrew Charlton, Fair Trade For All: How
Trade Can Promote Development, which provides a useful starting point for the
integration of tax justice concerns into the trade justice agenda.

2006 has got off to a great start for the Tax Justice Network, and this edition
of TJF reflects that with contributions from Emma Lochery at the World Social
Forum in Bamako and Lucy Komisar at the Public Eye Awards in Davos. Our media
and communications adviser Mike Lewis takes a look at three exciting months of
media coverage of TJN activities, and we also have the usual roundup of TJN news
as well as a selection of new research on tax issues.

I am also pleased to acknowledge the generous sponsorship of the Catholic Agency
for Overseas Development (www.cafod.org.uk <http://www.cafod.org.uk/> ) which
contributed towards the publishing costs of Tax Justice Focus in 2005, and
continues with this sponsorship in 2006.

I hope you enjoy reading this edition of Tax Justice Focus. Please circulate it
to your network of colleagues and friends.

With best wishes,

Jenny Kimmis, Editor

(5) Global Trade Watch E-Newsletter #38 - March 2006

Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:34:53 +1000 From: Global Trade Watch
<info@tradewatchoz.org>

Global Trade Watch E-Newsletter #38 - March 2006

http://www.tradewatchoz.org/enews/38.html

* Editorial: Seeing Through the Lies About "Free Trade" in Agriculture

If you're an Australian farmer, the future isn't looking good, despite what the
National Party, the National Farmers Federation, and the government constantly
say about all the coming benefits of "free trade". Last month, Australia's
commodities forecaster ABARE (the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource
Economics) again added its voice to this chorus in producing a set of estimates
purporting to show how much Australian farmers will gain from increased
liberalisation of agricultural trade ("free trade") under the World Trade
Organisation's (WTO) current negotiations.

ABARE predicts that a successful Doha Round of WTO negotiations will increase
Australia's agricultural exports by between 3 and 15%. The "big" winners from
this, according to ABARE, and Beef, dairy products, sugar and wheat farmers, who
will all increase their incomes as a result. Beef farmers would gain between 1%
and 8% increases in gross incomes; dairy farmers between 2% and 6%, sugar
farmers between 1% and 12%; and wheat farmers between 4% and 9%.

Ignore, for the moment, the miniscule size of these predicted income increases.
(And ignore, for the moment, the fact that just last year Australia's Trade
Minister Mark Vaile claimed that trade liberalisation would result in "Income
gains [for farmers] of between 50 and 65 per cent". Ha Ha!) Concentrate instead
simply on the claim that farmers will benefit from further trade liberalisation,
because it's a claim which has been made for over 30 years, since trade barriers
began to be dismantled in the 1970s.

Now look at the reality. Since the 1970s, successive federal governments have
almost completely liberalised Australia's agricultural sector - removing tariffs
of around 30% in 1973, to effectively 0% now. But during this same period, in
concert with falling trade barriers, farmers incomes have fallen quite
dramatically. In 1973, (when tariff reductions began) farm incomes, as measured
by the "real net value of farm production" (the value of farm production, minus
costs, adjusted for inflation) were at a high of almost $20 billion (in 2004/5
dollars). Since that time, it has gradually fallen to just $6.6 billion in
2004/5 - just *one third* of its real value before trade liberalisation began.
That's a 66% DROP in income over the 30-odd years of trade liberalisation.

And if you look more carefully at the predictions from ABARE, what they tell you
is that this trend is set to continue. That's because the figures cited above
(and in the media) are a bit of a fraud: the predicted increases above are based
on a "reference case" - a prediction of what would happen if there was no global
trade reform. But can you guess what the reference case shows? According to
ABARE, the real net value of farm income is actually due to decline from $5.8
billion in 2004/5 to $3.9 billion in 2011 (in 2005/6 dollars). That's another
massive 50% drop in farmers' incomes in the next five years! In comparison,
those rises of 1% to 12% look pretty bloody miniscule.

Perhaps its time for Australia's farmers to wake up to the reality of what "free
trade" really means for them. The problem is that while the media reported the
predicted income rises of 1%, 2% and 4%, no one bothered to report the predicted
underlying 50% fall in farm income anywhere.

(The data used above is taken from "Australian Commodities: March quarter 2006"
and "ABARE Commodity Statistics 2005" available at www.abare.gov.au) ----

* UN Upholds Moratorium on Terminator Seed Technology

Thanks in part to the lobbying of literally millions of farmers and ordinary
people around the world, governments at the United Nations Convention on
Biological Diversity (CBD) have unanimously upheld the international de facto
moratorium on Terminator technology - plants that are genetically engineered to
produce sterile seeds at harvest. The 8th meeting of the CBD ended today in
Curitiba, Brazil.

"The CBD has soundly rejected the efforts of Canada, Australia and New Zealand -
supported by the US government and the biotechnology industry - to undermine the
moratorium on suicide seeds," said Maria Jose Guazzelli of Centro Ecologico, a
Brazil-based agro-ecological organization.

"By consensus decision, all governments have re-affirmed the moratorium on a
genetic engineering technology that threatens the lives and livelihoods of 1.4
billion people who depend on farmer-saved seed," said Pat Mooney, Executive
Director of ETC Group.

The CBD's moratorium on Terminator, adopted six years ago, was under attack by
three governments - Australia, Canada and New Zealand - that insisted on a
"case-by-case risk assessment" of the technology. A broad coalition of farmers,
social movements, Indigenous peoples and civil society organisations pressed
governments meeting in Brazil to reject the controversial text because it
threatened to open the door to national-level field testing of Terminator,
without regard for its devastating social impacts.

More: http://etcgroup.org/article.asp?newsid=556 ----

* No Patents Without Local Consent, Delegates Urge (Mar 31) - Delegates from
developing countries attending an international conference on biodiversity in
Brazil are demanding changes in the WTO rules which deal with patenting of
genetic resources, such as seeds, plants and animals. More:
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32724

* Trapped by the WTO (Mar 28) - "More than 30,000 farmers from India have
committed suicide over the last five years!" says one participant at a World
Social Forum discussion on the post-Hong Kong World Trade Organisation (WTO)
ministerial summit. Yet another claims that the total figure of self-inflicted
deaths of poor farmers in South Asia stands at "more than 2.5 million" to date.
More: http://www.ipsterraviva.net/tv/karachi/viewstory.asp?idnews=597

* Poorest Nations Hit Hardest by WTO Agenda, Study Finds (Mar 15) - Developing
nations are likely to end up being net losers under the current global trade
agenda because they do not have the agricultural or industrial capability to
compete with the United States, Japan, Europe or even China, the expected
winners, a new study says. More: http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32517

(6) London mayor Ken Livingstone outrages Jewish leaders

Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:10:42 -0000 From: "Rowan Berkeley"
<rowan_berkeley@yahoo.co.uk>

London mayor outrages Jewish leaders

By George Conger, JPost, Mar. 21, 2006
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395651745&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

London Mayor Ken Livingstone's charge that two Jewish property developers should
go back to where they came from has prompted cries of anti-Semitism from members
of the London Assembly and outrage from Jewish leaders. Currently fighting a
four-week suspension handed down by a Civil Service panel for likening a Jewish
reporter to a concentration camp guard, Livingstone's latest comments came
during a press conference Tuesday discussing the 4 billion "Olympic City"
building project in London's East End.

He blamed developers David and Simon Reuben for having created a "poisonous
state of relations" within the syndicate building the project, and stated that
if the Reubens were "not happy here, perhaps they could go back to Iran and try
it under the ayatollahs." Asked by reporters to clarify his remark, he affirmed
his sentiments, saying the Reuben brothers, who were born in Bombay to Iraqi
Jewish parents and have been British residents for the past 40 years, should
"try their luck with the ayatollahs." Livingstone's suspension for his camp
guard comments is currently under review before the High Court, and he has been
permitted to remain in office while the dispute is under appeal.

Livingstone's "latest anti-Semitic remark" was "shocking, outrageous and grossly
offensive to the entire Jewish community," the London Assembly's Conservative
Group said in a press statement. "The mayor is anti-Semitic and we know that in
London," Brian Coleman, assembly member for Barnet and Camden (Conservative),
told The Jerusalem Post. "This is the most extreme remark he has made," Coleman
said, adding that the mayor's remarks "add fuel to the fire" and may land him
before the Civil Service panel again.

"This was an appalling thing" for the mayor to say, Jon Benjamin, chief
executive of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, told the Post. Benjamin said
the board hoped the mayor would reflect on the wisdom of his words, "but it will
be interesting to see what his reaction is. "To say to first- and
second-generation immigrants to Britain that they should 'go back to where they
came from,' that is the kind of language one would expect from one end of the
political spectrum," Benjamin said. Livingstone's "picking on the race or
religion or ethnic origin of someone in a dispute," Benjamin added, was "not
acceptable" civic discourse.

A spokesman for Britain's Commission for Racial Equality stated it would not be
pursuing the matter, as "it doesn't fall within our remit." Livingstone's office
declined to comment on the controversy. A spokesman for the Reuben brothers told
the Post that they did not see Livingstone's remarks as anti-Semitic, and in a
written statement disputed the mayor's contentions over their handling of the
Olympic City project. "The Reuben brothers remain completely committed to the
Stratford City project in its entirety, as well as the Olympic opportunity. They
are working extremely hard to deliver the development for the long-term benefit
of London and Londoners," read the statement.

(7) Livingstone renews anti-Jewish slurs (JPost)

Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:51:54 -0000 From: "Rowan Berkeley"
<rowan_berkeley@yahoo.co.uk>

Livingstone renews anti-Jewish slurs By George Conger, JPost, Mar. 23, 2006
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395659565&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Mayor Ken Livingstone has gone on the offensive, attacking his critics and
refusing to apologize for his comments Tuesday that two Jewish developers should
go back to where they came from. "I would offer a complete apology to the people
of Iran to the suggestion that they may be linked in any way to the Reuben
brothers. I wasn't meaning to be offensive to the people of Iran," Livingstone
said during the mayor's question period on Wednesday. Conservative London
Assembly member Brian Coleman told The Jerusalem Post that he was shocked by the
mayor's response. Livingstone has "a blind spot when it comes to relations with
the Jewish community. He has an antipathy, an antagonism, a personal dislike for
the Jewish community," Coleman said, while campaigning in his constituency on
Wednesday. The mayor's office did not respond to queries. On Tuesday,
Livingstone said of the Reuben brothers, Jewish members of the syndicate
building the 4 billion pound Olympic City in East London for the 2012 Olympic
Games, "perhaps if they're not happy they can always go back [to their own
country] and see if they can do better under the ayatollahs." Asked by reporters
to clarify his remarks, he said, "If they're not happy here, they can go back to
Iran and try their luck with the ayatollahs, if they don't like the planning
regime or my approach."

Livingstone also attacked Coleman on Wednesday for calling his Tuesday remarks
"anti-Semitic," denouncing him as a "Dr. Goebbels." Coleman was "dancing on the
memory of the Holocaust," Livingstone charged. By way of explanation of his
Tuesday remarks, the mayor claimed not to have known the Rueben brothers were
Jewish. Coleman doubted his sincerity. "You have to be either very na?ve or very
ignorant, which is it Mr. Mayor?" he asked. During the mayor's question period,
Livingstone returned to his attack. The Reubens were the "main impediment" to
the successful completion of the Olympic City project, he charged. Taxpayers may
have "to pick up the bill of 600 million to 700m. because of the actions of the
Reuben brothers," Livingstone said, and "that's completely and utterly
unacceptable." In a statement given to the Post Tuesday evening, the Reuben
brothers said the mayor's charges were "inaccurate" and "unsubstantiated" and
that they were "working extremely hard to deliver the development for the
long-term benefit of London and Londoners."

(8) Red Ken In Rumpus Fury Probe Bid (Daily Beast)

Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:08:22 +0100 From: Rowan Berkeley
<rowan.berkeley@googlemail.com>

London mayor faces jibe probe

Monsters & Critics, Apr 6, 2006
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/uk/article_1152985.php/London_mayor_faces_jibe_probe

The Mayor of London may face a three-month suspension for telling two
businessmen to return to Iran and 'try their luck with the ayatollahs'. Local
government watchdog, the Standards Board for England, has asked the Greater
London Authority's monitoring officer, Howard Carter, to probe Ken Livingstone's
verbal attack on billionaire brothers David and Simon Reuben. The investigation
was launched after a member of the public complained.

Mr Livingstone made his remarks at a press conference at City Hall on March
21st. Then he accused the pair of undermining east London's £4 billion Olympic
city development, in which they hold a 50 per cent stake. He said: 'If they're
not happy here, they can go back to Iran and try their luck with the ayatollahs,
if they don't like the planning regime or my approach.' The Reubens, born in
India to parents of Iraqi-Jewish descent, insist they are fully committed to the
Olympics and are baffled by the Mayor's attack. If Mr Livingstone is found
guilty of bringing his office into disrepute, he could be suspended for three
months, made to undergo training, or forced to apologise. The London mayor is
already fighting a month-long suspension for bringing his office into disrepute
for likening Jewish journalist Oliver Finegold to a Nazi concentration camp
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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 01:10:23 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Fw: On Mearsheimer & Walt - William PFAFF & John Lynch

(1) William PFAFF on the Mearsheimer-Walt Paper & the Israel Lobby
(2) Mearsheimer & Walt: The Jews-Only Lobby, by John Lynch

(1) William PFAFF on the Mearsheimer-Walt Paper & the Israel Lobby

Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:43:29 -0700 From: Jeff Blankfort
<jblankfort@earthlink.net>

"The note of panic in some of the attacks on Mearsheimer and Walt contrasts with
the fact that what they say is no secret in American foreign policy circles.
People have for years taken for granted the informal censorship, or
self-censorship, exercised in the government and the press on this issue."

The Mearsheimer-Walt Paper on America's Israeli Lobby

on 2006/4/5 11:20:00 (160 reads)

William Pfaff

http://www.williampfaff.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=115 Paris, April 4,
2006 ? London's Financial Times performed an American public service in its
weekend edition, calling editorially for open and honest discussion of the
influence of Israel on American foreign policy.

The call came amidst the resounding silence in "responsible" American circles
concerning the paper recently issued by two highly-regarded political scholars,
Stephen Walt of Harvard and John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago,
discussing the "Israel lobby" in Washington and its effect on American foreign
relations. So far as one can make out from the internet, in the mainstream
American press, only United Press International, The International Herald
Tribune, The Christian Science Monitor, The Wall Street Journal, and The
Washington Post have carried articles on the paper.

The Herald Tribune's was an opinion piece by Daniel Levy, a former advisor to
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, calling for open discussion of the lobby. The
UPI and the Monitor provided professionally detached news reports.

The other two papers carried attacks -- in the case of The Washington Post, two
of them, both featuring the news that the totally insignificant David Duke, a
former head of the Klu Klux Klan, applauds the Merscheimer-Walt paper. Duke is
not a figure whose views are ordinarily treated as of national interest by The
Washington Post, and the newspaper's linking of him to the Merscheimer-Wall
document was an act of character assassination by association just like those
which won Senator Joseph McCarthy infamy in the 1950s.

The document has not otherwise lacked attention. The blogosphere is full of it,
with both attacks on it and defenses and praise. The authors themselves
predicted that the mainstream media would ignore or attack their argument, which
is essentially that the influence of Israel on American policy has distorted it
to Israel's advantage, and sometimes to American disadvantage.

They say that Israel's friends in the United States have succeeded in convincing
Americans that Israeli and American national interests are inseparable, which
they are not, and have tried and often succeeded in suppressing or punishing
critical discussion of the relationship.

What are very striking are the virulence as well as the volume of the attacks
being made on the authors. The Klu Klux Klan smear has been the least of it.
Their paper has been compared to Nazi propaganda of the 1930s and to the
czarist-era forgery, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (which still circulates
in the Arab world).

In fact, Mearsheimer and Walt are recognized and respected political scholars in
the so-called realist tradition, which regards the defense and promotion of the
national interest of states as the chief purpose of foreign policy. Their paper
is a responsible document of public importance.

The venom in the attacks made on it risks the opposite of its intended effect by
tending to validate the claim that intense pressures are exercised on
publishers, editors, writers, and on American universities to block criticism,
intimidate critics, and prevent serious discussion of the American-Israeli
relationship. In Israel itself there has for many years been frank, cool and
reasoned discussion of the subject. Leading figures, including retired officers
and intelligence officials as well as peace activists, have in the past warned
that the actions of Israel's friends in America could eventually rebound against
Israel itself, with harm to Jews elsewhere.

Some also have noted that the leading U.S. lobby group, the American Israel
Public Affairs Committee, is farther to the right in its views than Israeli
public opinion, and has interfered in Israeli politics through support for the
Likud party and by undermining Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin.

The note of panic in some of the attacks on Mearsheimer and Walt contrasts with
the fact that what they say is no secret in American foreign policy circles.
People have for years taken for granted the informal censorship, or
self-censorship, exercised in the government and the press on this issue.

It is a fact of democratic life in the United States that determined interest
groups annex their own spheres of federal policy. Energy policy is run by the
oil companies, and trade policy by manufacturers, exporters and importers, with
an input from Wall Street.

U.S. Cuba policy is decided by the Cuban lobby in Florida, and policy on Armenia
by Americans of Armenian descent. The Middle East, or at least its part of it,
belongs to Israel.

However in the Israeli case the lobbying effort is linked to a foreign
government, even if the lobbyists sometimes take a policy line not that of the
government. Moreover, the lobbying involves war and peace issues.

President George W. Bush said a few days ago that in connection with the
supposed threat of Iran, his concern is to protect Israel. Critics ask why
Israel should not protect itself. The same has been asked about Iraq. In this
respect the controversy over the Israeli lobby is potentially explosive. This is
why denials, secrecy, and efforts at intimidation are dangerous. Daniel Levy is
right when he says that Israel itself would be served "if the open and critical
debate that takes place over here [in Israel] were exported over there," meaning
the United States.

[The full Mearsheimer-Walt paper is available on the Harvard John F. Kennedy
School website, and a shortened version, published in March in the London Review
of Books, is easily found on the internet.]

(2) Mearsheimer & Walt: The Jews-Only Lobby, by John Lynch

Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:49:13 +0900 From: Richard Wilcox <wilcoxrb@ybb.ne.jp>

1. Below is a recent piece written by the hard working researcher who goes by
the penname of John Lynch but whose real name is Bob Finch. I suspect Bob has a
very dry sense of British humor. I met Bob at Shamir's list and we both share
the same environmentalist background, but agree that until the Jewish Powerwagon
is moved out of the way, civil society and environmental progess cannot
satisfactorily be made, thus we both concentrate on this issue. Bob/John is a
brilliant and prolific commentator, I believe he would love to be added to your
dispatch list.

John Lynch <carbonomics@yahoo.co.uk>

Both James Petras and Bob Finch wrote scorching responses to the Neumann piece
which was posted at Counterpunch (re; Massad and the irrelevence of the Jewish
lobby). I think everyone makes valid points, but the telling point is that
people like Shamir (or Myers?), Bob, James Petras or even Jeff Blankfort would
have a fat chance getting theirs published at CounterPunch (although I have
great respect for the newsletter overall). So, in that light, Massad and Neumann
come off as biased in favor of down playing Jewish Power.

2. My paper was posted at Shamir's site in case you would like to reference it
in a posting or for your personal interest.

Technology And The Coming Global Totalitarianism Richard B. Wilcox October, 2005
http://www.israelshamir.net/Contributors/Wilcox_Technology.htm

Best regards,

Richard Wilcox, Tokyo

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The Jews-Only Lobby: A Review of 'The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy'.

In their new paper 'The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy' john j.
mearsheimer and stephen m. walt refer to the jews lobbying on behalf of the
jews-only state in palestine (jos) as 'the israeli lobby'. This lobby does not
like being referred to either as 'the israeli lobby' or as 'the jewish lobby'.
Although the media in the jos uses these phrases, the lobby in america denounces
as a racist and anti-semite anyone else who uses them. Indeed, jews around the
world have endeavored to ban goys from using such phrases. "A senior US diplomat
in London has ruffled feathers in Britain's foreign policy establishment by
publicly implying that a reference to the "Jewish lobby" in the United States is
an anti-Semitic remark." The incident happened yesterday at a Royal Institute of
International Affairs (RIIA) lecture on US foreign policy given by David
Johnson, who is the second in command at the American embassy in London. During
the question-and-answer session he was asked: "Will the US ever be willing to
impose an equitable peace settlement in the Middle East, or is it perhaps that
the Jewish lobby in America is too strong to make that feasible?" Mr Johnson
responded indignantly, saying: "I am highly resentful of the last part of your
remarks, just because of its ethnic slur." And he went on: "During my time here
I have become increasingly troubled by the willingness of European audiences to
skirt up to the side of anti-Semitic language as a political criticism." (Mary
Dejevsky ''Jewish lobby' is an anti-Semitic term, says US diplomat'
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=483856 January 23rd
2004).

The phrases 'the israeli lobby' and 'the jewish lobby' are highly misleading for
they seem similar to the 'british lobby' or the 'irish lobby' when they are not.
On the contrary, they are highly racist since they promote the interests of the
racist jos. The so-called jewish/israeli lobby would never dream of condemning
jewish racists whether they served in the cabinet of the terrorist, and war
criminal, ariel sharon or are members of explicitly jewish racist parties in the
jos, "The heartfelt joy about this rout of the Right is tempered by a very
dangerous development: the rise of Avigdor Lieberman's "Israel our Home" party,
a mutation of the Right with openly fascist tendencies. Lieberman, an immigrant
from the former Soviet Union and himself a settler, draws his main strength from
the "Russian" community, which is almost uniformly extremely nationalistic. He
calls for the expulsion of all Arabs (a fifth of Israel's population),
ostensibly in a swap of territories, but the message is clear. There are also
the usual hallmarks of such a party: the cult of the Leader, a call for "law and
order", intense hatred for "the enemy" both within and without. This man got 12
seats and has overtaken Netanyahu. His main slogan "Da Lieberman" ("Yes
Lieberman" in Russian) reminds one of similar historical salutes." (Uri Avnery
'The Israeli Elections' http://www.counterpunch.org/avnery03302006.html March
30, 2006). It would therefore be much more accurate to refer to 'the
jewish/israeli lobby' as the jews-only lobby (jol) to ensure its racist nature
is unmistakable. The lobby could not pretend it is anything other than contrary
to civilized values. This acronym will be used in the rest of this article.

Another argument in favour of this acronym is that since the turn of the
millenium, a new political movement has emerged in america called 'the
neoconservatives'. Various commentators have alleged that this movement is
dominated to one degree or another by jews although everyone agrees some
adherents are non-jews. However, nobody has ever called the jol 'the
neoconservative lobby'. The reason for this is that it is exclusively jewish,
"The core of the Lobby is comprised of American Jews who make a significant
effort in their daily lives to bend U.S. foreign policy so that it advances
Israel's interests." (John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel Lobby
and U.S. Foreign Policy' rwp_06_011_walt.pdf March 2006 p.12).

Mearsheimer and walt's paper is highly controversial for stating the obvious.
But, in these days when jewish lies and propaganda dominate american, and
western, political discourse, statements of the obvious are a revolutionary
challenge to the existing order. Most reviewers agree there is little new in
what the authors say and yet the controversy over their publication suggests
they have done something shocking and objectionable.

Many of the authors' assumptions about the jos are conventional. They express
support for its foundation, "There is no question that Jews suffered greatly
from the despicable legacy of anti-Semitism, and that Israel's creation was an
appropriate response to a long record of crimes." (John J. Mearsheimer and
Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy' rwp_06_011_walt.pdf
March 2006 p.10). They do not believe it is a racist state which ought to be
treated like the rogue apartheid south african state, "This course raises the
awful specter of Israel one day occupying the pariah status once reserved for
apartheid states like South Africa. Ironically, Israel itself would probably be
better off if the Lobby were less powerful and U.S. policy were more
evenhanded." (John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel Lobby and U.S.
Foreign Policy' rwp_06_011_walt.pdf March 2006 p.42).

They do not believe the jol is a conspiracy, "The Lobby's activities are not the
sort of conspiracy depicted in anti-Semitic tracts like the Protocols of the
Elders of Zion. For the most part, the individuals and groups that comprise the
Lobby are doing what other special interest groups do, just much better." (John
J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy'
rwp_06_011_walt.pdf March 2006 p.16). But they believe AIPAC is acting as an
agent for a foreign government, "The bottom line is that AIPAC, which is a de
facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on the U.S. Congress."
(John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign
Policy' rwp_06_011_walt.pdf March 2006 p.18).

The authors most significant proposition is that america's national interests
are quite distinct from those of the jos's. "Why has the United States been
willing to set aside its own security and that of many of its allies in order to
advance the interests of another state?"; the jos "is becoming a strategic
burden" (on the United States); it "does not behave like a loyal ally"; and "the
U.S. has a terrorism problem in good part because it is so closely allied with
Israel, not the other way around". And, "thanks to the lobby, the United States
has become the de-facto enabler of Israeli expansion in the Occupied
Territories, making it complicit in the crimes perpetrated against the
Palestinians."

The only insight the authors make which might be deemed to be new is that the
jol's existence suggests support for the jos is not in america's interests,
"Indeed, the mere existence of the Lobby suggests that unconditional support for
Israel is not in the American national interest. If it was, one would not need
an organized special interest group to bring it about. But because Israel is a
strategic and moral liability, it takes relentless political pressure to keep
U.S. support intact." (John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel Lobby
and U.S. Foreign Policy' rwp_06_011_walt.pdf March 2006 Note 1 p.43).

Perhaps the authors' harshest criticism concerns the jos's exploitation of
america. "It is not surprising that Israel and its American supporters want the
United States to deal with any and all threats to Israel's security. If their
efforts to shape U.S. policy succeed, then Israel's enemies get weakened or
overthrown, Israel gets a free hand with the Palestinians, and the United States
does most of the fighting, dying, rebuilding, and paying." (John J. Mearsheimer
and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy'
rwp_06_011_walt.pdf March 2006 p.40). Considering the degree of jewish
domination over the american political process, this is a highly inflammatory
remark. The jol succeeded long ago in pushing such a view to the far political
extremes so it is shocking to find such esteemed academics giving it
respectability.

The authors point out that the jol celebrates its achievements in manipulating
the american political system but denounces anyone else who points this out. "In
effect, the Lobby boasts of its own power and then attacks anyone who calls
attention to it." (John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel Lobby and
U.S. Foreign Policy' rwp_06_011_walt.pdf March 2006 p.24). They make the same
point about the use of the phrases 'the jewish lobby' and 'the israeli lobby'.
"In fact, anyone who says that there is an Israel Lobby runs the risk of being
charged with anti-Semitism, even though the Israeli media themselves refer to
America's 'Jewish Lobby'." (John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel
Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy' rwp_06_011_walt.pdf March 2006 p.24). These
propaganda deceptions are similar to that regarding the jos's possession of
nuclear weapons: it owns such weapons but refuses to admit it has them. The jol
is willing to listen to statements about its influence as long as they are
supportive. So, it is necessary for goys to understand not merely the difference
between views which are acceptable and those which are not, but the difference
between the times when a particular view is acceptable and when it is not.

The political importance of mearsheimer and walt's paper is that they have given
a modicum of respectability to views which, over the last decade and a half, the
jol has succeeded in shifting to the political extremes and thus rendering as
insignificant.

For a moment the authors seemed to have made it possible to discuss the jol
without being denounced as an anti-semite or a racist. They have put back into
the political mainstream what had become a taboo issue. "Though it's tempting,
they can't be dismissed as cranks outside the mainstream. They are the
mainstream." (Editorial 'In Dark Times, Blame the Jews'
http://www.forward.com/main/printer-friendly.php?id=7532 March 24, 2006); "Ken
Jacobson, associate national director of the Anti-Defamation League . pointed
out that the paper contains no new revelations or insights, is riddled with
factual errors and makes arguments that the ADL is accustomed to dealing with
from extremists on the margins of America's political arena. Jacobson said that
he had prepared a rebuttal to the study, but for the time being it is only being
used for internal ADL purposes." (Ori Nir 'Scholars' Attack on Pro-Israel Lobby
Met With Silence' http://www.forward.com/main/printer-friendly.php?id=7548 March
24, 2006); "The content is not significant. Those seeking to damage the
U.S.-Israel relationship have been saying this for a while. The fact that it
carries the imprimatur of the Harvard Kennedy School is. Those that don't know
better would assume it has validity, when it doesn't," the executive vice
chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations,
Malcolm Hoenlein, said." (Quoted in Eli Lake 'David Duke Claims to Be Vindicated
By a Harvard Dean' http://www.nysun.com/article/29380?page_no=4 March 20, 2006);
""The truth is that this really wouldn't be worth spending any time discussing
if not for the fact of where these people are located and what their reputations
are," said Ken Jacobson, associate national director of the Anti-Defamation
League." (Quoted in Tom Regan 'Israeli media condemn, discuss report on
US-Israel ties' http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0324/dailyUpdate.html March 24,
2006); "Ronald A. Heifetz, the King Hussein Bin Talal lecturer in public
leadership at the Kennedy School, said in a telephone interview yesterday that
Mearsheimer and Walt had exceeded the bounds of academic freedom and that the
dean of the Kennedy School should look into the matter. ''When a member of the
Harvard faculty speaks, people are inclined to view us as credible sources of
analysis and insight," Heifetz said. ''We have a special responsibility to
clarify the difference between voicing an opinion and presenting a work of
scholarship. . . . It behooves us to be careful about what we say . . . if we
express a point of view that can be embraced by David Duke and the Muslim
Brotherhood to justify racist, terrorist activities."" (Charles A. Radin
''Israel lobby' critique roils academe'
http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2006/03/29/israel_lobby_critique_roils_academe/
March 29, 2006). However, the jews living in america had no intention of
allowing such a topic to come back into the mainstream.

It is somewhat worrying that the authors choose to use only jewish sources for
their work. "Some readers will find this analysis disturbing, but the facts
recounted here are not in serious dispute among scholars. Indeed, our account
relies heavily on the work of Israeli scholars and journalists, who deserve
great credit for shedding light on these issues. We also rely on evidence
provided by respected Israeli and international human rights organizations.
Similarly, our claims about the Lobby's impact rely on testimony from the
Lobby's own members, as well as testimony from politicians who have worked with
them." (John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel Lobby and U.S.
Foreign Policy' rwp_06_011_walt.pdf March 2006 p.2). It is as if they believed
this might offer them some protection from the inevitable outpouring of jewish
hysteria over their paper.

The authors point out that the jol tries to prevent anti-zionist views from
appearing in the media; that it tries to intimidate those who challenge its
political domination; and that it uses money as a weapon to undermine or defeat
its critics. All three of these tactics were transparent in the jewish reaction
to the authors' publication. Nobody should now need to doubt whether the
authors' conclusions are based on sufficient empirical evidence when they can
see the truth of such conclusions in the jewish reactions to their publication.
The jewish reaction is a vindication of many of the authors' allegations.

Firstly, jewish control over the american media is so great the authors were
unable to find a publisher for their paper in america ? the land of free speech.
They had to resort to publication in a british newspaper. "In an interview
published Friday with Forward, Prof. John Mearsheimer alleges that the
pro-Israel lobby is so powerful that he and Stephen Walt would never have been
able to find an American publisher for their paper. "I do not believe that we
could have gotten it published in the United States," Mearsheimer told the
Forward. He said that the paper was originally commissioned in the fall of 2002
by one of America's leading magazines, "but the publishers told us that it was
virtually impossible to get the piece published in the United States." Most
scholars, policymakers and journalists know that "the whole subject of the
Israel lobby and American foreign policy is a third-rail issue," he said.
"Publishers understand that if they publish a piece like ours it would cause
them all sorts of problems." (Tom Regan 'Israeli media condemn, discuss report
on US-Israel ties' http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0324/dailyUpdate.html March 24,
2006); "The two authors told Corine Lesnes, (Le Monde
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3222,36-753823,0.html March 24th 2006)
that "no American publication has agreed to run it." (Jeff Blankfort 'Update:
Israel Lobby paper' jblankfort@earthlink.net March 24, 2006).

Secondly, the mainstream media in america is virulently pro-zionist. It also
knows that should it decide to mention, or debate, such views then it would face
an angry backlash from the jol. It was not difficult for the mainstream media to
refuse to mention this new publication. "Officials with pro-Israel organizations
say that given the limited public attention generated by the new study - as of
Tuesday most major print outlets had ignored it - they prefer not to draw
attention to the paper by taking issue with it head on. As of Wednesday morning,
none of the largest Jewish organizations had issued a press release on the
report." (Ori Nir 'Scholars' Attack on Pro-Israel Lobby Met With Silence'
http://www.forward.com/main/printer-friendly.php?id=7548 March 24, 2006). "While
the paper has generated little attention in the mainstream media or policymaking
circles, it has produced a buzz within the academic community and among
advocates on both sides of the Arab-Israeli conflict. Palestinian activists and
Arab affairs scholars sent the article to many people by email, but the
controversy rarely strayed beyond the realm of Internet blogs." (Ori Nir
'Scholars' Attack on Pro-Israel Lobby Met With Silence'
http://www.forward.com/main/printer-friendly.php?id=7548 March 24, 2006). "While
mainstream media in the United States have been largely silent, media in Israel,
and Jewish-community media in the United States, have been reporting on, and
discussing a paper by two prominent political scientists who argue that the US's
current relationship with Israel is not good for US security." (Tom Regan
'Israeli media condemn, discuss report on US-Israel ties'
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0324/dailyUpdate.html March 24, 2006); "Never
before has the mainstream US media performed so atrociously, if not
discouragingly, as it did this month when the editors ignored a damning report
by two prominent university professors who are on the faculties of some of
America's most respectable institutions Harvard University and the University of
Chicago." (George Hishmeh 'Israeli lobby spikes damning report'
http://www.amin.org/eng/uncat/2006/mar/mar30-0.html March 30, 2006); "So far as
I've been able to determine with the help of Google, while the paper and talk
about it are all over the Internet, they are missing from the big corporate
press as of this writing." (Charley Reese 'Keeping It Quiet: The Israel Lobby's
Crushing of Dissent' http://www.antiwar.com/reese/?articleid=8791 April 1,
2006).

Virtually all jewish critics have pointed out that most of the authors' views
are found only on the fringes of politics ? which is true since the jol has
pushed them there. So it is hardly surprising the jewish owned media's reaction
to mearsheimer and walt's publication is simply to push these two establishment
figures to the political fringes. According to the jol: anyone holding an
opinion contrary to that held by the jol must be on the fringes of politics so
it doesn't matter how respectable a person might be, the jol defines that person
as a fringe commentator, and ostracizes anything they have to say.

The authors' absence from the mainstream media is not, however, a one-way issue.
The reason they have done nothing to try and publicize their paper is that they
are too frightened about giving interviews in case they say something
accidentally which could be used to inflame what jews have turned into an
hysterical situation. As a consequence, they have turned down many offers for
interviews, "Since publication, Mearsheimer added, he and Walt also turned down
offers from major newspapers, radio and television networks to lay out their
thesis." (Ori Nir 'Scholars' Attack on Pro-Israel Lobby Met With Silence'
http://www.forward.com/main/printer-friendly.php?id=7548 March 24, 2006).
Perhaps they ought to take michael neumann's advice, "Take a fucking risk, for
Christ's sake!"" (Michael Neumann 'Blame Yourself: American Power and Jewish
Power' http://www.counterpunch.org/neumann01072003.html January 7, 2003).

Thirdly, the jol used its economic clout to force the universities in which the
authors worked into removing their logos from the publication and insisting on a
more blatant disclaimer than is normally the case. "In a further sign that
Harvard and the University of Chicago are distancing themselves from Professors
Walt and Mearsheimer, the report also no longer includes the pro-forma
disclaimer used for all other research reports on that Harvard website. In its
place is a far stronger disclaimer, in much larger type." (Alex Safian 'Harvard
Backs Away from "Israel Lobby" Professors; Removes Logo from Controversial
Paper'
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_print=1&x_context=7&x_issue=35&x_article=1101
March 22, 2006). Then the jewish millionaire who provided funds for the chair
occupied by walt sought to distance himself from the paper, "According to the
New York Sun, Robert Belfer - who gave the Kennedy School $7.5 million in 1997
in order, among other things, to endow the chair that Walt now occupies - called
the university and asked that Walt be forbidden to use his title in publicity
for the study." (Shmuel Rosner 'Harvard distances itself from criticism of
Israel lobby'
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=698102
March 24th 2006);

Fourthly, although the publication was not discussed in the mainstream media it
has been "discussed" extensively in the media that caters primarily for jews in
america. In the jews-only media the authors have been subjected to a full
frontal vilification campaign portraying them as anti-semites and political
extremists with nazi sympathies:

"Eliot Engel, a Democratic congressman from New York who is Jewish, said that
the paper "really deserves the contempt of the American people," and described
it as "the same old anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist drivel"." (Emad Mekay 'Israel
Lobby Dictates U.S. Policy, Study Charges'
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0323-09.htm March 23, 2006); "In
Washington, Democratic Congressman Eliot Engel of New York described the
professors as "dishonest so-called intellectuals" and "anti-Semites.""
(Democracy Now 'New Study Criticizes Power of Israeli Lobby in Washington'
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/24/1459255 March 24th 2006).

"A statement from Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) was typical of the few (members of
congress) who bothered to pay attention to the paper, which Nadler called
"little more than a repackaging of old conspiracy theories, historical
revisionism, and a distorted understanding of U.S. strategic interest."" (Ron
Kampeas 'Paper on Israel Lobby Raises Hackles, but Fails to Gain Traction in
Congress' http://www.cjp.org/content_display.html?ArticleID=179767 March 29th
2006).

One jewish journalist turned the truth into a lurid tabloid attack, "According
to the study, the pro-Israel lobby is an octopus whose tentacles affect
congressional legislation, administration policies, the press and other
agencies." (Shmuel Rosner 'Harvard distances itself from criticism of Israel
lobby'
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=698102
March 24th 2006).

"Simply titled "The Israel Lobby," the piece by John Mearsheimer and Stephen
Walt is, more or less, a compendium of every slander and innuendo that's ever
been aired about the supposedly pernicious influence of supporters of Israel on
American foreign policy." (Jonathan S. Tobin 'The Paranoid Style of Politics'
http://www.jewishexponent.com/ViewArticle.asp?ArtID=2893 March 30th 2006).

"The time has long passed when association with Harvard University conferred an
imprimatur of presumed seriousness or even common sense on the output of its
scholars. Still, it comes as a shock to read a polemic as vulgar as the "working
paper" penned earlier this month by the academic dean of Harvard's Kennedy
School of Government, Stephen M. Walt, and John J. Mearsheimer of the University
of Chicago, carrying the title "The Israel Lobby and American Foreign Policy.""
(Weekly Standard Opinion 'Harvard, the Israeli Lobby, Prince Charles.'
http://news.yahoo.com/s/weeklystandard/20060327/cm_weeklystandard/harvardtheisraelilobbyprincecharles;_ylt=A86.I1zObChEPaQArQH9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA
-- March 27 2006).

Max boot once suffered delusions about saddam's weapons of mass destruction but
this doesn't stop him from whining, "For a more recent instance of the paranoid
style, a modern-day Hofstadter could consult "The Israel Lobby and American
Foreign Policy," a "working paper" by John J. Mearsheimer of the University of
Chicago and Stephen M. Walt of Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of
Government. With 83 pages of text and 211 footnotes, the Mearsheimer-Walt essay
(part of which appeared in the London Review of Books) is as scholarly as those
of Welch and McCarthy - and just as nutty." (Max Boot 'Policy analysis -Paranoid
style'
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/la-oe-boot29mar29,1,5074122.column?coll=la-util-opinion-sunday
March 29, 2006).

"The paper is a broad synthesis of criticisms and charges against Israel long
heard on the fringes of American politics and renewed in the debate over the
Iraq war, allegations that also form the core of Arab world critiques of the
Jewish state." (Charles A. Radin ''Israel lobby' critique roils academe'
http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2006/03/29/israel_lobby_critique_roils_academe/
March 29, 2006).

Many jewish hacks pointed out david duke's support for the publication thereby
smearing mearsheimer and walt as racists. Jewish racists continue to believe
they can successfully smear their opponents with the charge of racism without
their own racism being exposed. Jewish commentators in the jol pretend to be
good americans, democratic, and anti-racist. By warning about the spectre of
david duke they seemingly reinforce their democratic and anti-racist
credentials. But they are racists for supporting the jos and yet they succeed in
hiding this grimy reality under their condemnations of duke. Duke has become the
jewish lobby's priceless racist bogeyman behind which they can hide their own
vile racism. What could be more deceptive than for the jol to hide its racism
behind their image of a racist who now goes around condemning the racism of the
jos?

The proof of the points made by mearsheimer and walt can be seen in the reaction
to their paper from jewish racists. The authors were right to argue that the jol
is instilling fear in americans to prevent them from talking about jewish power.
"Even if the paper is as bad as its critics say, that does not obviate the need
to respond to the points it makes," said Eric Alterman, a media critic for The
Nation. "So far, most of what I am seeing is mere character assassination of
exactly the kind I, also, experience whenever I take up the issue. This leads me
to conclude the point of most - but not all - of the criticism is to shut down
debate because AIPAC partisans are wary of seeing their arguments and tactics
subjected to scrutiny of any kind."" (Ron Kampeas 'Paper on Israel Lobby Raises
Hackles, but Fails to Gain Traction in Congress'
http://www.cjp.org/content_display.html?ArticleID=179767 March 29th 2006); "The
hate campaign directed at Mearsheimer and Walt underscores and validates the
study's contention that all attempts to objectively discuss our Israel-centric
foreign policy and the pivotal role played by the Lobby are met with outright
intimidation. .. why it is that the debate over this study is being engaged in
such a vicious manner by opponents of the Harvard study. Doesn't that say
something about the role of the Lobby and its methods, as characterized by
Mearsheimer and Walt?" (Justin Raimondo 'The Lobby Strikes Back'
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=8787 March 31, 2006).

Mearsheimer and walt were right, "It was clear to us that many people understood
the problem that we describe in the piece but were afraid to talk about it...
because the lobby would retaliate," he (mearsheimer) told IPS." (Emad Mekay
'Israel Lobby Dictates U.S. Policy, Study Charges'
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0323-09.htm March 23, 2006).

The authors state, "the main driving force behind the [Iraq] war was a small
band of neo-conservatives, many with ties to Likud". The jol was worried about
this perception becoming commonplace because it feared that if the proxy zionist
invasion went wrong then jews would be blamed for the deaths and injuries of
tens of thousands of american soldiers, "The Jewish Weekly of New York reports
that Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, is
concerned that the report will promote the claim that "Jewish and pro-Israel
groups played a major role in pressing for the Iraq war in 2003." "We have
always been concerned that those opposed to the war have tried to portray it as
a Jewish war, an Israeli war," Foxman said. "Our concern has been that if the
war went badly, and there was more public disillusionment, these kinds of
conspiracy theories could resurface and grow." That, he said, is "exactly what's
happening now" as the Harvard report races around the world on antiwar and
anti-Israel Web sites." (Tom Regan 'Israeli media condemn, discuss report on
US-Israel ties' http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0324/dailyUpdate.html March 24,
2006).

Raimondo is one of the few commentators brave enough to blame the jol for the
barbaric invasion of iraq which has boomeranged back on america so
disasterously, "The firing of Dean Walt is an outrage, one that should be met
with a storm of indignation. That the Amen Corner would even attempt it ? let
alone go on the record as taking credit for it ? is a testament to the Lobby's
enduring and unchallenged power. It shows how the Lobby operates, and why they
must be stopped before any real debate over the foreign policy of this country
can be conducted. The reasons for this extreme defensiveness on the part of the
Lobby are not hard to discern. If they are the prime movers of U.S. foreign
policy, then they do indeed have a lot to answer for. As the consequences of the
Iraq war roll across our television screens, tracing a path of blood and
mindless destruction, we have to wonder: who got us here? We have to question
their motivations. And we have to ask: Why? Who lied us into war? For whose sake
did 2,300 American soldiers, and tens of thousands of Iraqis, die? Whose
interests were served? The tip of the spear Mearsheimer and Walt have pricked
the Lobby with is the contention that they were the decisive influence in
pushing us into war with Iraq. And the howls that are coming from right, left,
and center are proof enough that they have struck home." (Justin Raimondo 'The
Lobby Strikes Back' http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=8787 March 31,
2006).

What is amazing is that the so few americans believe that jews in america pushed
their country into the bloodbath in iraq. Despite the fact that they were the
prime movers for the war, the jews have not been blamed for america's slide
towards economic, moral, and political, bankruptcy. On the contrary, they are so
politically popular they are on the verge of pushing america into yet another
jewish proxy war - this time against iran. The reason for this incredible
political success is because the jol has succeeded in persuading americans into
becoming racists i.e. people who admire the jos. The americans are doing the
bidding of their jewish masters in promoting racist wars against iraq and iran
and any other islamic country that poses a threat not to america but to the jos.
America's new racists do not seem in the least bit bothered that for the sake of
their jewish masters, "the United States does most of the fighting, dying,
rebuilding, and paying." (John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt 'The Israel
Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy' rwp_06_011_walt.pdf March 2006 p.40).

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Subject: *****EXPOSE THE LIES NOW!*****

Destruction of America by the Global Elite

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Look a this!!! http://www.serpo.org/information.html
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Project Serpo
The Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program

The gradual release of confidential documents pertaining to a top secret
exchange program of twelve US military personnel to Serpo, a planet of
Zeta Reticuli, between the years 1965-78

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The original posting by Anonymous, and three apparently independent
supporting comments from other list members

First let me introduce myself. My name is Request Anonymous. I am a
retired employee of the U.S. Government. I won't go into any great
details about my past, but I was involved in a special program.

As for Roswell, it occurred, but not like the story books tell. There
were two crash sites. One southwest of Corona, New Mexico and the second
site at Pelona Peak, south of Datil, New Mexico.

I have never seen or read anything about the exchange program. I once
heard a little bit of information from Linda Howe, but she didn't have
much information.

I've monitored your e-mails for about six months. I've read e-mails from
you and others. But I've never seen nor heard the truth about the real
Roswell incident or the exchange program.

I'd like to hear what others say about this.

Comment 1 (by Gene Loscowski):

Who is this person? Most of the information is absolutely correct.

As for the Roswell incident. Whomever sent the e-mail is correct.

[Clarification by Victor Martinez, 1 December: Ths project
classification was provided by Paul McGovern, not Gene Loscowski.
Apologies for the error.]

Comment 2 (by Paul McGovern):

Comment 3 (by "Anonymous II"):

I would prefer you keep my name private.

But here is my evaluation of the information from "Anonymous."

3. I'd like to contact this source. I have about a million questions to
ask!

I heard Linda Howe speak about the exchange program some years ago. I
always wondered where she got her information.

Keep up the excellent work!

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Posting Two by Anonymous (4 November, 2005)

Paul is not correct. There were two females, one being a doctor and the
other being a linguist.

Once the team arrived on the Eben planet, it took them several months to
adjust to the atmosphere. During the adjustment period, they suffered
headaches, dizziness and disorientation.

The Army politely escorted them away and cautioned them not to do it
again.

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Posting Three by Anonymous (7 November, 2005)

The Grays, which some people characterize as being like the Ebens, were
not. They came from a planet near Alpha Centauri A.

The third class of visitors came from a G2 star system in Leo.

Another class of visitors came from a G2 star system in Epsilon Eridani.

[EPSILON ERIDANI is one of the closest naked-eye stars to our Sun. It is
10.5 light years way with a magnitude of 3.7. Although somewhat cooler
and fainter than the Sun, it is otherwise similar.]

The visitors were classified by a code. The code, which was classified
in itself, was, "Extraterrestrial Entities" (ETE). ETE-2 were the Ebens,
the Grays were ETE-3, and so on.

The creatures were more like robots, although they were intelligent and
could make decisions. They might be the "hostile" visitors that some
people report.

To the best of my knowledge, we have NOT had any visitation since 1985
from the Ebens.

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Posting Four by Anonymous (9 November, 2005)

Now, considering this, you can understand the difficult job our team
members had making calculations without time. They had to come up with
an alternate method to measure speeds, orbits, etc.

Challenge: Try solving a problem in physics without being able to
measure time on Earth!

CONCLUSION: One of the things our Earth-based scientists learned was not
to apply Earth's laws of physics in a universal way.

Serpo was estimated to be about three billion years old. The two suns
were about five billion years old, but only by estimation.

Comment (by Paul McGovern):

Sometimes the truth is hard to understand, especially by closed minded
people.

Just keep an open mind, people. Once you close that mind, you are lost
in your own misguided thoughts....

The complete debriefing accounts for about three thousand pages.

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Posting Five by Anonymous (13 November, 2005)

We'll let you know.

I will provide some answers to the many questions once I find them.
Remember, I have over 3,000 pages of to view and another two sizeable
volumes of other supplementary data.

I've studied the documents and debriefing data. I cannot find answers to
everyone's questions, but I did find some answers especially to those
posed by UFO thread list member, Bill Ryan.

[Bill Ryan's questions]

6) Another question pertained to the team make up. Why were only two
females taken?

8) Why are there only 650,000 in the Eben civilization?

11) Serpo moved around one sun only. The other sun was within the two
orbits. As I said before, there are hundreds of pages of calculations in
the debriefing explaining all of this.

12) Why some Team Members remained!

13) Each Team Member received a large dose or radiation during their
stay on Serpo. Most of the Team Members died later of radiation-related
illnesses.

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Posting Six by Anonymous (14 November, 2005)

You will be honored one day for providing assistance in our release of
information. Many thanks.

I do not feel that a dialogue or argument with non-believers would
benefit our cause. They have the right to critizice our information, but
none of them will ever be involved in the final process.

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Posting Seven by Anonymous (17 November, 2005)

Here are some geological facts regarding Serpo our Team Members
compiled:

The planet's diameter was measured at about 7,218 miles.

The surface gravity was 9.60m/s2.

The rotation periods was approximately 43 hours.

Moving to Quadrant 3, the Team found a form of Badlands: An arid region
that is lined with deep gullies with sparse vegetation. The gullies or
valleys were extremely deep, some going down 3,000 feet.

Another animal looked like a Mountain Lion, but had long fur around the
neck. This animal was curious, but was not considered hostile by the
Ebens.

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Posting by Anonymous (18 November, 2005)

[In response to specific questions]

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Posting by Anonymous (20 November, 2005)

There are numerous figures and calculations to support this. I will
forward them at a later date. Have your list stay tuned.

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Posting by Anonymous (25 November, 2005)

In response to the intensive ongoing debate recorded in the Comments
section of this site, I would like to endorse this clarification from a
prominent physicist on the list:

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Posting Eight by Anonymous (29 November, 2005)

I decided to concentrate this release on the "Team" and their selection
process, communication problems and the final exchange. There have been
many questions pertaining to these issues.

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Posting Nine by Anonymous (30 November, 2005)

As with weapons, each Team Member had a handgun and rifle. The Ebens
realized these were weapons, but again never questioned why the Team
Members were bringing them along.

But each Team Member never carried the weapons except during their
exploration of Serpo and then only certain Team Members carried them.

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Posting Ten by Anonymous (2 December, 2005)

http://archive.alienzoo.com/filmandtv/mikefarrellcoverup.html
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www.ufoseek.org/fatimajv.htm
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5 December: clarification by Victor Martinez

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Posting by Anonymous (8 December, 2005)

I called Mr. _____ this morning.

[ EX U.S.G OFFICIAL WHO IS MANAGING THE CONTROLLED RELEASE OF "Project
SERPO" FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION ]

I found some discrepancies about the animals mentioned on the show.

— Only the snake-like creature was aggressive, which forced the Team
to kill one. The snake-like creatures were located in just one location
and the Team never saw another one.

Bill did a great job promoting the Web site, Serpo.org and the
information contained therein.

Don't distribute the photographs through your huge UFO thread list. Just
leave it on the Serpo.org Web site for Web site Administrator Bill Ryan
to post.

You'll love them!

[BR: We don't yet know when to expect these photographs. It may be
several weeks yet – possibly even in the New Year. We ask all
readers to be patient, as we are ourselves.]

Enough for now; I must go back to bed. Keep up the great work.

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Posting Eleven by Anonymous (21 December, 2005)

REGARDING OUR TEAM MEMBERS

THE TEAM COMMANDER'S JOURNAL ENTRIES:

Additionally, I and the rest of the DIA-6 are working on the
photographs.

DAY 1

DAY 1 – ENTRY 2

DAY 2

ENTRY

[ END JOURNAL ENTRIES FROM TEAM COMMANDER ]

QUESTION: Please explain, for the enlightenment of all, the Eben Energy
Device (ED) found at the crash site.

ANONYMOUS: OK, I will answer this question. Dimensions: 9" x 11" x 1.5",
weight 26.7 oz. The ED [Energy Device] is clear and made of something
similar to hard plastic.

On the bottom left, there is a small square metal plate, possibly a
chip. It is one of the connector points.

On the bottom right, there is another small square metal point, which is
the second connector point.

I won't go into all the scientific nomenclature at this time [due to
national security implications]. This is just the basic information on
the ED, which is what a reader wanted to know.

REGARDING EBENS #1 - #5:

Ebe #1 was the crash survivor from the craft found in Corona, NM in
July, 1947.

Ebe #2 was the first exchange of an Eben scientist and was the second
visitor left on Earth. I don't know the exact time period of his stay.

Ebe #3 was a female scientist.

Let your exclusive UFO Thread List membership know that this subject
matter is closed and no future questions regarding this topic will be
addressed.

Why s/he or it was named J-ROD is classified. People have speculated
about that, and officially it means something, but that information
shall remain shielded from the public domain.

President Bill Clinton wanted to continue the exchange program, but
others in his administration thought it would be a mistake and overruled
him. It was terminated in 1994 with Ebe #5.

All surviving Team Members were carefully monitored and watched by a
special branch of the DIA. The last surviving Team Member died in 2002
in the State of Florida.

QUESTION FROM ROBERT STANLEY:

VICTOR: Can you give me more details re this statement?

"However, when he [Ebe #1] was taken to Washington, D.C. (very closely
controlled), the climate there (in late fall) was too cold for him."

— When did this occur?
— How long was EBE #1 there?
— Where did he stay?

Thank you.
ROBERT STANLEY
Unicus magazine

[FACTOID – Victor Martinez:

The final segment of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND which I viewed
does have 12 people, 10 men and two women. Twelve people are also the
number given in Spielberg's book version.

However, I got around to reading the end of Spielberg's paperback
version of CE3. It reads the same as the movie except for two
interesting things. The 12 Team Members are introduced as ALL MEN.

An additional dialogue not in the movie also takes place. They have a
sit down with Roy Neary and have him sign a number of documents. While
he signs the last one he is told the following:

"We have a possible problem in the area of canon and common
jurisprudence outside of the parameters of our astronomy. The case could
be made that you are, in effect, technically speaking... dead."

Is this a fancy way of saying that if anybody comes snooping around
about what happened to Roy, they now have the legal right to tell them
he is dead? Does that sound familiar?

"Spielberg tells me about the film. It's about UFOs, he says, but it is
not science fiction. He calls it 'science fact.'"

COMMENT: Makes you wonder how Spielberg got the numbers and gender count
right.

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Posting Thirteen (a) by Anonymous (28 January, 2006)

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Posting Thirteen (b) by Anonymous (28 January, 2006)

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Posting Fourteen by Anonymous (1 February, 2006)

Team Commander
Assistant Team Commander
Team Pilot #1
Team Pilot #2
Linguist #1
Linguist #2
Biologist
Scientist #1
Scientist #2
Doctor #1
Doctor #2
Security

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Posting Fifteen by Anonymous (4 February, 2006)

The name of the image – Ebenobject – was given by Anonymous.

There were no labels, description, or any other explanation for the
diagram.

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Posting Sixteen by Anonymous (9 March, 2006)

[Note by BR: This posting was received by myself while at the Laughlin
UFO Congress, Nevada. There are two parts:

1) A sample of the Eben written language (original on left; sample
enlargement on right; click on either for a higher-resolution image);

2) A further instalment of the Team Commander's Log, posted verbatim as
before. The final sentence is also verbatim, and apparently incomplete.]

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Posting Fifteen (a) by Anonymous (28 March, 2006)

[BR: This message was posted by Victor Martinez to his list on 28 March
2006. Comments in square brackets in the e-mail message below are by
Victor Martinez.]

VICTOR:

Here is the explanation of the Alien Drawing or 'Eben Objects' as
referred to on the www.serpo.org/ Web site posted by Bill [Ryan].

One area was capturing the view and makeup of objects, artifacts and
landscapes on Planet SERPO. The Mission Team took cameras, 16 different
types of cameras and drawing/drafting equipment.

This drawing is a copy of the actual drawing made by the Team Commander
in 1967. The Team also took many photographs of the sundial symbols.

Glad to be in touch with you and I'll be in contact again soon.

ANONYMOUS

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Posting Seventeen by Anonymous (3 April, 2006)

[BR: This message was posted by Victor Martinez to his list on 3 April
2006. Comments in square brackets below are by Victor Martinez.]

VICTOR:

The following information pertains to the equipment our Team took to
Planet SERPO. All of the military equipment was real,... at least back
then.

LIST OF SUPPLIES TAKEN BY "Project CRYSTAL KNIGHT" Team Members [which
was later renamed "Project SERPO" once the seven (7) Team Members
returned in 1978 and the report was finalized in 1980]:

1) MUSIC – The Team Members took the following types of music:

Christmas Music
U.S. Patriotic Music;

Classical Music:
Mozart
Hansel
Bach
Schubert
Mendelssohn
Rossini
Strauss
Beethoven
Brahms
Chopin
Tchaikovsky
Vivaldi

Indian Chanting Music
Tibetan Chants
African Chants [these last three (3) for the intended benefit of the
Eben hosts].

2) CLOTHING – The Team Members took the following clothing:

3) MEDICAL EQUIPMENT – The Team Members took the following medical
equipment:

4) TESTING EQUIPMENT – The Team Members took the following testing
equipment:

5) MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT and ITEMS – The Team Members took the
following miscellaneous equipment/items:

6) VEHICLES – The Team Members took the following vehicles:

7) FOOD – The Team Members took the following food items:

8) MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS – The Team Members took 2,000 pounds of
various other items.

More to come....

ANONYMOUS

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Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 01:24:40 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Debt Slavery Report

From: linda robb

America's Total Debt Report - Update 2006
$44 Trillion - and Soaring
~ household, business, financial and government sectors ~
by Michael W. Hodges, Author
Grandfather Economic Report
April 6, 2006
America has become more a debt 'junkie' - - than ever before
with total debt of $44 trillion - - with the highest debt ratio in history.

That's $147,312 per man, woman and child - - or $589,248 per family of 4,
$44,312 more debt per family than last year.

Last year debt increased $3.5 Trillion, 5 times more than GDP.
Household debt soared 12%.

68% ($30 trillion) of this debt was created since 1990,
a period primarily driven by debt instead of by productive activity.

And, the above does not include unfunded pensions and medical promises.

2 GREAT QUESTIONS:
Can the production of debt forever replace the production of goods and savings?
Can Americans forever borrow their way to prosperity?
Easy Answer > NO WAY !!

I am concerned about the debt being passed to our younger generation. Who isn't?

BIG PICTURE - $44 TRILLION of DEBT in America and rising rapidly

The economy is 2-3 times more debt-dependent with $25 Trillion DEBT EXCESS compared to prior debt ratios:

This is A SCARY CHART - showing 4 decade trends of total debt in America (the red line, reaching $44 trillion in 2005 vs. growth of the economy as measured by national income (blue line). (adjusted for inflation). That debt increased $3.5 Trillion (8.8% more) in the past year.

Which line goes up faster, the red debt line or the blue net national income line?

Answer: the debt line.

And, that debt line is going up faster and faster than national income! Right? (maybe. Like this chart, your own personal or business debt is also going up faster than your own income - - possible?)

As mentioned, debt is here defined as all U.S. debt (sum debt of federal and state & local governments, international, and private debt, incl. households, business and financial sector debts, and federal debt to trust funds).

This chart shows, for the period 1957 to mid 1970s, total debt (red line on chart) was increasing close to the growth rate of national income (blue line on chart), despite paying war debt for WW II, Korea and Vietnam.

But, in the last several decades total debt has zoomed up, up and away - - growing much faster than national income. It has now reached $43.7 Trillion ($33.7 trillion private household/business/financial sector debt PLUS $10 trillion federal, state and local government debt). Here are some highlights:

a.. Last year's total debt of $43.7 Trillion was 9.5 times higher than the $4.6 Trillion debt in 1957 (both measured in inflation-adjusted 2005 dollars).

b.. Last year's total debt increased $3.5 trillion (up 8.8%). Federal government debt (incl. added debt owed trust funds) increased $574 billion (7.6%), household debt increased $1.2 Trillion (up 11.7%), business debt increased $606 billion (7.8%), state & local government debt increased $177 billion (up 10.6%), domestic financial sector debt increased $877 billion (7.5%), and other foreign debt was up 8%.

c.. Last year's total debt per person was $147,312 (up $10,833 over last year's $136,479); this compares to $28,001 in 1957 (both measured in inflation-adjusted 2005 dollars). That's a debt excess of $119,310 per man, woman and child.

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While the above chart shows debt growth in inflation-adjusted dollars, here's another chart from the main report of this chapter - - showing debt as a percentage of net national income - - which I term the 'debt ratio'.

This chart shows < 2005 debt of $44 trillion was 442% of national income; the debt ratio in 1957 was 186%. If 2005 debt had been at the 1957 debt ratio, then 2005's debt would have been $19 trillion, not $44 trillion - - indicating excess debt in America today of $25 trillion. (note - if this chart were plotted as debt % GDP, instead of debt % national income, the curve would look near identical to this chart)

In this graphic note how the debt ratio data plots are nearly flat during the first half of the years shown, indicating debt was growing at approximately the same rate as the economy - - not faster than the economy. This proves America's economy can grow without increasing debt at a faster pace (because it has in the past). But look what happened to that trend in the middle of this chart - - debt ratio zooming upward, faster and faster, indicating debt growth way beyond general economic growth - with a new, record high debt ratio each year.

The excess debt is even higher than the $25 trillion excess shown on this chart, if a nation's economy were structured to become more productive such that it could grow without increased debt. Why can America not grow by normal population growth and labor and equipment productivity - - without growing debt ratios higher and higher?

By the way > a chapter of this series called the 'Family Income Report' shows the time period of the first half of this chart, when debt ratios were stable, was also one of the best periods ever of real median family income growth - most with one wage-earner per family.

Stated differently, in 1957 there was $1.86 in debt for each dollar of net national income, but in 2005 there was $4.42 of debt for each dollar of national income - up 137%. It also means this extra $2.56 of debt per dollar of national income produced zilch extra national income. What kind of 'so called productivity' is that?

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a.. Since 1990, 81% of today's domestic financial sector debt was created, as it increased 2.5 times faster than growth of the economy; household debt increased 50% faster. During the same period the federal government siphoned off $2.9 trillion of trust fund surpluses, creating new un-funded IOUs (the total IOUs now stand at $3.5 Trillion, with no budgeted pay-back).

b.. 2005 was a new, all-time record high in debt ratios of the household, business, and domestic financial sectors - also record debt ratios owed to trust funds.

c.. In the past year the debt record was even more scary: household debt increased 2 times faster than the economy - - and the federal government's bite out of trust funds set another record high.

d.. In 2003, the average credit-card debt of US households with at least one card was $9,205, up from $2,966 in 1990, according to the research firm CardWeb.com - - that's 310% higher.

e.. Even students are learning how to go into debt up to their necks. The federal General Accounting Office, according to AP's Martha Irvin in January 2002, says college students are graduating with an average of $19,400 in student loans. Additionally, average student credit card debt rose 46% from 1998 to 2000, according to the student loan agency Nellie Mae. Meanwhile, universities promote credit cards issued by agencies who kick-back to them.

f.. Since 1990 it is clear the economy was 'driven' almost entirely by the biggest injection of new debt in history, which produced a much diminished lower return in national income per dollar. Just as one hooked on drugs needs ever increasing amounts of drugs to 'survive', it appears America needs ever increasing amounts of new debt to eke out diminishing amounts of growth - - even with 2 wage earners per family.

g.. America's total private and government debt is at least 100% higher compared to debt ratios of the recent past.

h.. According to the Federal Government Debt Report its total debt was $8.2 Trillion at the end of 2005. That includes $2.2 Trillion owed by the U.S. federal government to foreign interests (which represents 46% of all Treasury bonds & notes).

i.. The total external debt of USA as of 9/30/05 was $9.3 trillion, representing about 21% of America's Total Internal and External Debt of $44 Trillion. In addition to that portion owed by the federal government this $9.3 external debt also includes $1.8 Trillion owed by the banking sector and $5.4 Trillion owed by other sectors.

j.. as of 2004, according to Gillespie Research/ Federal Reserve, about $9 trillion of U.S. financial assets are owned abroad, including the above mentioned federal government debt, also including 13% of all stocks and 27% of corporate bonds, and foreign investors & central banks also own 13% of U.S. government agency debt (such as household mortgages financed by Fannie Mae) up from 5% in 1995. The largest supplier of mortgage funds is Fannie Mae which borrows the money on the open market - - and, according to Bloomberg Sept. 2002, "about a third of the Fannie Mae's benchmark debt is sold outside the U.S." - - (dangerous with a long-term falling dollar exchange rate).

k.. Additionally, foreign interests own real estate and factories - - and some would be surprised to learn that the well-known and respected California-based Pimco, the world's largest bond fund, that many believe is an American firm is in fact a unit of Allianz.AG, a German firm.

l.. We should not be mad at foreign interests. We are the ones borrowing from others so we can consume beyond our own production and savings, and thereby creating unprecedented debts and trade deficits PLUS excessive government spending. While America's debt used to be nearly all owed domestically, increasingly huge portions are now controlled by foreign interests.

America, therefore, is less and less independently in control of its economy
- - not a nice bequest we are creating for our children and grandchildren.

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While facing this accelerating debt Challenge:

a.. America, already the world's largest international debtor with $5.7 trillion in cumulative trade deficits in goods since 1985, explodes international trade deficits to new records as it depends more and more on the production and savings of others than on itself (see International Trade Report); and,

b.. with each citizen carrying on his/her back more state & local government employees than ever before, because their headcounts again increased faster than general population growth; and,

c.. personal savings plunged to record lows; and,

d.. real median family incomes (Family Income Report) ceased their solid increases after debt ratios took off.

e.. with household debt at the highest ratios in history,

f.. whereas in previous times one bread winner per family was sufficient to provide for the family, build savings and reduce get-started debt loads - - the family now allocates the 2nd bread winner plus more debt with less savings and less time for the children - - to do the same.

g.. and - in previous times students graduated from college debt-free to themselves and their parents, because many worked their way via part-time jobs while minimizing consumptive spending. No longer

h.. The above debt ratio chart also adds evidence about the period of what some call the "financialization" of the economy by debt, including increasing domination by the nation's financial sector of the total capitalization based weight of the S&P index - - a topic discussed as a part of naming debt causes - - in page 2 of the full debt report (from link below).

i.. More families than ever before, with every possible adult member in the work force, try to make-up the mounting pressure by turning to more debt with less savings - - while more business debt is accumulated despite paying out fewer dividends to shareholders, as well as a much smaller manufacturing base.

A Few Hard Questions > With the lowest personal savings rate on record, with the federal government relying more and more on foreign entities to lend it funds to operate and prop up its currency, and with run-away trade deficits, where will this debt monster lead? Does America simply borrow savings of non-Americans until either they stop lending or until America has mortgaged or sold-off all its assets to others? How can this direction be changed - - or am I the only one who does not believe individuals and a nation can, forever, borrow their way to guaranteed continual prosperity and security?

Is this a way to run an economy for my children and grandchildren
- - debt, debt and more debt?

Idea > > There can be little doubt that the only way energy (for example) will be better conserved with reduced dependence on foreign interests is with significantly higher economic (prices) costs. The same goes for debt > > a free market (without central-planning via the Federal Reserve to manipulate interest rates) setting significantly higher economic costs (higher interest rates, elimination of tax subsidies on debt, etc.) to debtors, until debt ratios fall back more in line with the past. Perhaps payroll taxes for social security and Medicare should be eliminated with its revenue loss (plus the gap missing for the future) transferred to the equivalent tax on energy and on debt.

What's your idea to get these debt ratios down significantly toward ratios of the past,
including reduced dependence on foreigners?

Most can agree >
The U.S. is more debt-dependent than ever.
That is not a nice bequest to our young generation - - on our watch !!

"We hear sad complaints sometimes of merciless creditors;
whilst the acts of merciless debtors are passed over in silence." - William Frend, 1817

"I place economy among the first and most important virtues,
and debt as the greatest of dangers to be feared." - Thomas Jefferson"

"The decline of great powers is caused by simple economic over extension."
The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers, by Paul Kennedy

"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse
of a boom brought about by credit (debt) expansion.
The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner
as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit (debt) expansion,
or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." - Ludwig von Mises

No generation has a right to contract debts
greater than can be paid off during the course of its own existence."
- George Washington to James Madison 1789

"Growing domestic and international debt
has created the conditions for global economic and financial crises."
Bank for International Settlements June 2005

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America, that used to derive strong family values and incomes with savings and paying 'as you go', has moved to a more consumptive society financed by ever increasing liens on future income - - with debt ratios reaching new records.

America has become less a family-based, frugal society of strong real savings and small government. It has become a more consumptive, more debt-dependent with nil private savings, and more a government spending-dependent society - - depending more on the production and savings of others (including foreigners), and on debt, than ever before - - quite different from that envisioned by its founding forefathers. In the long-term there are consequences to be paid for excess debt reliance, in addition to sucking more mothers into the work force and away from their children.

The purpose of the Grandfather Economic Reports is to increase public awareness
of difficult trends facing today's families and youth - compared to prior generations.

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER - IF YOU HAVE IT

You have just viewed a summary with 2 of the trend charts of "America's Total Debt Report", a chapter of the Grandfather Economic Report series.

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