Discussion about 09/11/2001: [911TruthAction] Digest Number 1201

Thursday, March 30, 2006

[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1201

There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Fwd: [ghosttroop] US Comptroller General predicts economic disaster for the U.S.
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
2. Memo about Painting Airplanes!
From: "Cait" <ansith@gmail.com>
3. Re: Re: WTC according to NIST
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
4. Re: PRWEB -- Charlie Sheen -- the findings of 'A Real 9/11 Commission'
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
5. FYI: TERROR RISK: Honolulu Control Facility (HCF)
From: APFN <apfn@apfn.org>
6. Re: Nov 22 2001 More on 1999 EgyptAir 900 remote control crashing -- Th E-6 and EgyptAir more history
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
7. Re: Nov 22 2001 More on 1999 EgyptAir 900 remote control crashing -- Th E-6 and EgyptAir more history
From: "Dick Eastman" <de1949@nwinfo.net>
8. Who Gets to Spend the Two Trillion First ??
From: ranger116@webtv.net
9. RE: Re: WTC according to NIST
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:47:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: [ghosttroop] US Comptroller General predicts economic disaster for the U.S.

MA PA <drymarc2003@yahoo.ca> wrote: To: drymarc2003@yahoo.ca
From: MA PA <drymarc2003@yahoo.ca>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:51:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [ghosttroop] US Comptroller General predicts economic disaster for the U.S.

David Walker, the US Comptroller General, predicts economic disaster for the U.S. (with video)

Plus:

Buy Australian Dollar, Sell U.S., N.Z. Currencies, Goldman Sachs Says

Plus:

FEDERAL RESERVE ORDERS $2 TRILLION TO BE PRINTED AND PUT INTO CIRCULATION: US TREASURY FLABBERGASTED

Plus:

'Asia must prepare for dollar collapse': US living on borrowed time

27 MARCH 2006

David Walker, the US Comptroller General, is predicting economic disaster for his country. He talks to Stephen Sackur.

The richest, most powerful nation on earth faces a fiscal "tsunami" which threatens to overwhelm Government and citizens alike.
Who says so? America's auditor in chief, David Walker, whose job it is to oversee all Federal spending.

He's pleading with US politicians and taxpayers to face up to the harsh economic realities that come with an ageing population and spiralling budget deficits.

But is economic disaster really so close at hand?
Stephen Sackur talks to David Walker.

Click the following link to watch the full interview.

http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/7361311.html

MARC PARENT
CRIMES AND CORRUPTIONS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER NEWS
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:55:38 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
From: "Cait" <ansith@gmail.com>
Subject: Memo about Painting Airplanes!

I apologize if this was posted before and I missed it, watching newscasts
from earlier this week and could not believe what I just heard! President
Bush talking about painting an aircraft to look like a U.N. plane and hoping
Saddam would fire on it to start a war? The media having proof that the
President is not above using subterfuge to elicit war - and they arent
screaming it from the rootftops.. If he'd do that to Iraq, why is it so hard
for people to think he could have done that on 9/11 as well?

Memo: U.S., Britain bent on war in Iraq
Notes from Bush-Blair meeting in January ’03 show misguided assumptions
By Andrea Mitchell
Chief foreign affairs correspondent
NBC News
Updated: 7:45 p.m. ET March 27, 2006

Andrea Mitchell
Chief foreign affairs correspondent

• Profile

WASHINGTON - President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair were
officially on a diplomatic track regarding Iraq in January 2003, but a
secret memo now reveals they were determined to go to war six weeks before
invading.
"This issue will come to a head in a matter of weeks, not months," said Bush
on Jan. 31, 2003.
Taking notes at the meeting that day in the Oval Office, Blair's National
Security Adviser David Manning, now Great Britain's ambassador in Washington

Five days later, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell made the U.S. case to
the United Nations.
But Manning wrote that the president had decided on war no matter what
happened diplomatically, or whether inspectors found weapons of mass
destruction.
"As the memo makes clear, the diplomatic strategy was fixed around the
military planning," says Philippe Sands, a professor of international law
and the author of the book “Lawless World.” "The decision had been taken."
According to the memo, Bush and Blair also predicted a quick victory and
vastly underestimated the challenge of creating a new government.
Key points in the memo, confirmed by The New York Times and NBC News:
Bush said it was "unlikely there would be internecine warfare between the
different religious and ethnic groups." Blair agreed.
Blair asked about "aftermath planning." Condoleezza Rice, then Bush’s
national security adviser, said that "a great deal of work was now in hand."

"Both Bush and Blair were prepared to move forward with military action
without fully appreciating the level of difficulty they would face," says
David Phillips, a former Iraq adviser at the State Department.
The memo also said the president talked about painting an American spy plane
to look like a U.N. aircraft, hoping to provoke Saddam Hussein into firing
and justify going to war.
Monday, the White House refused to discuss the pre-war talks but said that
the president's public and private comments were "fully consistent."
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:11:41 -0500
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
Subject: Re: Re: WTC according to NIST

Is it true gold was buried under one of the towers,heard this some time
ago,anyone know anything about this ? Are they removing gold from Fort Knox
?
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From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:12 AM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: WTC according to NIST

> A-ha, the conclusive gravamen!
>
> Great job!
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "catsears_2000"
> <catsears_2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > In the NIST analysis of WTC 7 collapse that can be found at:
> >
> > http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%20IIC%20-%20WTC%207%20Collapse%
> 20Final.pdf
> >
> > ... only one slide really matters. They say the collapse is due to
> the
> > "failure" of main support columns 79, 80, and/or 81, which upon
> > failing caused the entire building to go (in 8 seconds, ahaha!)
> >
> > Anyway, in the whole deck, down below is text of the crucial slide
> > where they basically admit they don't know what the fuck went
> wrong.
> >
> > Within THAT text, the crucial single line of it all is the
> following:
> >
> > "Massive size of columns 79, 80, and 81 appears to require severe
> > fires and/or damaged fireproofing to initiate thermally-related
> failures"
> >
> > -Scott Meredith
> > /AlasBabylon list owner
> >
> > ==================================================================
> > Status of Initiating Event Analysis
> > NIST continues to evaluate the factors that could have caused
> column 79,
> > 80, or 81 to fail
> > Possible contributing factors include:
> > 􀂉 Damage to components adjacent to truss #2 from debris
> impact
> > 􀂉 Damage to fireproofing from normal activities prior to
> event or debris
> > damage
> > 􀂉 Unusual fuel loads (fuel lines, high density of
> building contents)
> > Analysis to date indicates:
> > 􀂉 Massive size of columns 79, 80, and 81 appears to
> require severe
> > fires and/or damaged fireproofing to initiate thermally-related
> failures
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:18:45 -0500
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
Subject: Re: PRWEB -- Charlie Sheen -- the findings of 'A Real 9/11 Commission'

With people in it !!!!!
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From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:11 AM
Subject: [911TruthAction] PRWEB -- Charlie Sheen -- the findings of 'A Real
9/11 Commission'

Mr. Sheen is putting the No-Boeing-Hit-the-Pentagon evidence first.
Good man.
(The Demolition of WTC has been established -- but now the cover-up
story is that they
did it to save New York from sideways topplings -- which works as an
alibi.)

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To Mr. Charles Sheen, 'A Real 9/11 Commission' Participant -- Thank
You

Download this press release as an Adobe PDF document.

Actor Charlie Sheen was recently interviewed on CNN. His statements
and positions support the findings of “A Real 9/11 Commission” participants
and the Two 9/11 Foundation Truths: (1) No 757 hit the Pentagon on September
11, 2001 and (2) “Demolition charges” brought down the NYC Twin Towers, not
the airplanes that hit them.

Tuckahoe, NY (PRWEB) March 27, 2006 -- As author Paul J. Landis was
ready to announce updates to his book “A Real 9/11 Commission,” Actor
Charlie Sheen was interviewed on CNN Show Biz Tonight, March 22, 2006.
Landis tells us “Mr. Sheen’s statements and positions support the findings
of 'A Real 9/11 Commission' participants.” “Even better, information in the
recently updated “A Real 9/11 Commission” will provide significant
high-caliber ammunition for a true American freedom fighter, Mr. Charlie
Sheen.” (“A Real 9/11 Commission,” ISBN 0-9760408-1-6, April 2005; US
$14.35, UK, £ 9.4, www.areal911commission.com).

During his interview, Mr. Sheen stated: “We have not been able to
confirm that a large commercial airliner hit the Pentagon because the
government has seized and refused to release any footage that would show the
impact”. And he also questioned, “How the plane basically disappeared into
the Pentagon with next to no wreckage and no indication of what happened to
the wing sections.”

Good news, Mr. Sheen: please, referring to “A Real 9/11 Commission”
pages 207 to 222, and the equivalent Special Report at
http://www.areal911commission.com/evidence2.htm, do you see a 757 in the
picture of the explosion outside the Pentagon on the morning of 9/11/2001?

Also, we actually have a number of pictures taken by people for
documentaries after the “explosion” and during the twenty minutes before the
wall section collapsed. Did you know there was a Twenty-minute delay?

The plane did not “basically disappear,” evidence shows that it never
hit the Pentagon. Thank you for supporting the first of the Two “A Real 9/11
Commission” 9/11 Foundation Truths: (1) No 757 hit the Pentagon on September
11, 2001.

Mr. Sheen also discussed his concerns about the official reason for
the collapse of the twin towers on the day of 9/11.

"I saw the south tower hit live, that famous wide shot where it
disappears behind the building and then we see the tremendous
fireball...There was a feeling, it just didn't look any commercial jetliner
I've flown on any time in my life and then when the buildings came down
later on that day I said to my brother 'call me insane, but did it sorta
look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition'?"

And very great insight, Mr. Sheen said “most people's gut instinct,
that the buildings had been deliberately imploded, was washed away by the
incessant flood of the official version of events from day one.”

Landis told us that, “A lawyer friend of mine, Mr. Phil Berg called me
and said, ‘Mr. Sheen was asked in an interview how the towers could be
demolished, if the demolition started at the top’?"

More high caliber ammunition for Mr. Sheen from “A Real 9/11
Commission”.

Mr. Richard Siegel, “911 Eyewitness,” has captured the “sounds” and
“timings” of the demolition charges that brought down the NYC Towers,
including Magnitude 2.1 and 2.3 Richter scale explosions seventeen seconds
before the collapse starts. “A Real 9/11 Commission” Page 222.

Mr. Siegel also asks and shows a picture: “large sections of the North
Tower’s outer steel framework weigh hundreds of tons joined together. Where
did the huge amount of energy come from to eject them roughly 600 feet, two
football fields, through the air into the rooftop of the Winter garden?”
(“911 Eyewitness,” Richard A. Siegel, www.911eyewitness.com). And, “You were
and are 100% correct, Mr. Sheen,” Landis notes, “‘fireproofing blown off,
doesn’t do it.”

The Special Report on Pages 207 to 222 of “A Real 9/11 Commission” and
http://www.areal911commission.com/evidence2.htm have the NYC Towers
demolition materials.

Thank you for supporting the second of the Two “A Real 9/11
Commission” 9/11 Foundation Truths: (2) “Demolition charges” brought down
the NYC Twin Towers, Not the airplanes that hit them.

But a double super hero award goes to you Mr. Sheen: “…it just didn't
look any commercial jetliner I've flown on any time in my life.” In “A Real
9/11 Commission,” pages 32 to 34, “YOU ARE NOT ALONE.” There are other
eyewitness reports of a non-commercial airplane and a “plane with no
windows”. See also “911 in Plane Site,” www.911inplanesite.com.

“As an American citizen and author, I am concerned not only that we
have the truth about 9/11, but also that we have the facts and information
we require to protect our Constitution and our Civil Rights. To this end, I
have suggested to my readers that we look at the Iraq War as a symptom, and
not the disease. This also applies to the events of 9/11/2001.”

The “disease” Landis suggests Americans must “cure”, remove, is the
non-US constitution of Bush, Cheney and others: The Project for the New
American Century (PNAC). This “project” calls for a “New Pearl Harbor” to
scare Americans so that “project” supporters can create an Empire, USA.

At some recent events, Landis told us, “I have shown people a picture
of the new cover of “A Real 9/11 Commission”: a spectator looking at a fire
truck fighting the fire after the “explosion” at the Pentagon, and no 757
visible.

Most agree there is no 757 and I asked if they ever saw this picture
in the NY Times or the Washington Post and if it would have caused them to
question the Bush no 757 story? They said “no” to the first question and
“yes” to the second. Is there are issue here of media complicity with murder
and high treason?

“A 757 did not hit the Pentagon,” Landis states, “and the towers did
not collapse from natural forces, Bush just failed to tell us they were
demolished.” As long as Americans permit their negligent Congress to leave
the PNAC Tyrants in power, there will be more 9/11’s, continued War in Iraq
with the continued use of Depleted Uranium, actions against Iran and more
drastic erosion of the US Constitution and our civil rights.

Lastly, to Mr. Charles Sheen, “A Real 9/11 Commission” Participant,
thank you and a complimentary copy of “A Real 9/11 Commission” awaits your
contacting the author.

PNAC link: The Constitution of Bush and Cheney is not the Constitution
of the United States.
http://www.areal911commission.com/article5.html

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:18:22 -0700
From: APFN <apfn@apfn.org>
Subject: FYI: TERROR RISK: Honolulu Control Facility (HCF)

Honolulu Control Facility (HCF)
http://web.archive.org/web/20011202024628/http://www.hcfhawaii.com/news/terror_risk.htm

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:38:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Nov 22 2001 More on 1999 EgyptAir 900 remote control crashing -- Th E-6 and EgyptAir more history

I spammed this in the other groups i'm part of.

the evidence you present regarding egypt air warrants enough suspicion to look deeper into the matters

Dick Eastman <de1949@nwinfo.net> wrote:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/

Nov 22, 2001

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From: "Dick Eastman" <eastman@wolfenet.com>
To: "Dick Eastman" <eastman@wolfenet.com>
Subject: Th E-6 and EgyptAir more history
Date: Thu, Nov 22, 2001, 6:26 am

Dick ... I've been following the capability and uses of the E-6 for a while.
It is especially highlighted in the military's plans for electronic OFFENSIVE
warfare in future and current emerging operations. ....... Some of the psyops
that I have mentioned to you that I have been studying (but, haven't
detailed) could well be effected by the E-6. Those psyops have continued at
various intensities from the period during the Clinton administration to now
through Bush's. My last observation of its appearance in local broadcast
media was last night. The loss of the Navy's plane on our west coast near
Forks a few days back also was from this same Navy specialization, I think.
The offensive capabilities of the E-6 are amazing: they include not only
blocking broadcast signals, but replacing them, with some of it capable of
being replaced in real time/instant insertion of messages -- either by theme,
direct processes, or subliminal or hidden insertions.

On your several excellent postings on 'no hijackers', I had been thinking
along those lines too, especially after being reminded of the advances in
remote piloting. The senior flight attendant that called into her base giving
seat numbers of the hijackers that were different from those officially
announced, also stands out.

On Egypt Air 900, I was active in several newsgroups that dealt with that
early on. The most telling piece of that event for me was the TWO unscheduled landings it had made and the unusually elite passenger list that included Egyptian military leadership. It not only stopped at Vandenberg AFB and took on passengers, but it was also reported on EARLY national broadcast news, that it made another unscheduled stop prior to NYC. That stop, which was later mentioned as a mistake and resulting from confusion of airport city codes, quickly becoming vanished and non-history. That second stop was Andrews AFB.
........... While the official story of suicide actions by the copilot always
felt fictional, your suggestion that it could have been a rehearsal/actual use
of remote piloting/hijacking, is most instructive.
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World Trade Center
Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:05:54 -0600

So just who WAS on those aircraft?

The government could point their finger at any one of us next!!

In the rush to sell an invasion of Afghanistan, our government and media have been waving a bunch of middle eastern faces at us on the TV; photos of the dangerous hijackers who ploughed their stolen aircraft into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Flight 93 was supposedly flown by Captain Saeed al-Ghamdi and a second hijacker named Bukhari, while Abdulrahman al-Omari was supposed to be at the controls of flight 11. Going from these suspects, links are being created to point the finger of blame at various targets, including but not limited to Afghanistan, Egypt, Iraq, etc. Ah, but the best laid plans gang aft aglay and there's a problem! Mr. al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, just walked into the US embassy in Jeddah to demand why he was being reported as a dead hijacker in the American media. Likewise Mr. al-Ghamdi is still alive and well and at his job for Tunis Air, while Mr. Bukhari has been dead for two years now, according to the Saudi Gazette in a story dated
September 18th, 2001.

In a recent development, the BBC is reporting that the transcript of a phone
call made by Flight Attendant Madeline Amy Sweeney to Boston air traffic
controls shows that the flight attendant gave the seat numbers occupied by
the hijackers, seat numbers which were NOT the seats of the men the FBI
claimed were responsible for the hijacking!

Even CNN is now reporting that the men who hijacked those aircraft were
using phony IDs, using the names of real people still living in Arab nations
in the middle east.

So, one fact is now apparent. If those who hijacked those airplanes were using stolen identities, then we don't know who they were or who they worked for. We can't. It's impossible.

Now, people who are intending to commit suicide normally don't worry about whether anyone knows their real name, and it is here that some other odd aspects of this case take on a new meaning.

We are told that the group that planned and carried out the hijackings and
subsequent attack on the World Trade Towers were highly trained (possibly by the CIA) experts, with knowledge of how to steal identities, forge fake IDs, and compromise White House and Air Force One security codes.

Yet at the same time, we are being told that these same hijackers spent the
night before the attack getting drunk in bars, making noise, screaming insults at the "infidels", and doing everything they could to attract attention to themselves. They used the credit cards issued in their stolen names, allowed their driver's licenses with the stolen names to be photocopied, and used public library computers to send emails back and forth using their stolen names signed to unencrypted messages about their plans to steal aircraft and crash them into buildings, then decorated their apartments with
absurdly obvious props such as a crop dusting manual to the point where
the whole affair reads like a low budget "B" detective movie from the 1930s.

In short, these men did everything they could to make sure everyone knew
who they were, or more to the point, who they were pretending to be.

Because the IDs used by the hijackers were phony, we cannot know who
they really were or who they really worked for. But what is apparent is that
those who planned the hijackings and the attacks on the World Trade Towers went out of their way to leave plenty of clues pointing to citizens of Arab nations of the middle east.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:13:24 -0800
From: "Dick Eastman" <de1949@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Re: Nov 22 2001 More on 1999 EgyptAir 900 remote control crashing -- Th E-6 and EgyptAir more history

----- Original Message -----
From: Naveed
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Nov 22 2001 More on 1999 EgyptAir 900 remote control crashing -- Th E-6 and EgyptAir more history

I spammed this in the other groups i'm part of.

the evidence you present regarding egypt air warrants enough suspicion to look deeper into the matters

Glad to hear that this evidence is getting another look. Did you see this as well,

From: "Dick Eastman" <eastman@wolfenet.com>
To: <editor@villagevoice.com>; "Dick Eastman" <eastman@wolfenet.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 6:22 AM

Item #2:
The hijackers, never suspecting a suicide mission, were "stung," by Mossad
infiltrators posing as leaders with orders from bin Ladin -- who gave them
the right passwords and instructions setting the hijacking in motion -- but
then, when the the hijacking was underway took remote control of the
planes. making turning them into cruise missiles.
I am convinced that no one was knowingly on a WTC suicide mission. The
planes were all taken over by remote control after hijackings wre begun..
And it was not the first time that a passenger jet was crashed by remote
sabotage --

EgyptAir 990 was crashed in a "test" for the WTC, on Halloween, 11/31/99.

Exactly two years ago, the American Halloween, EgyptAir flight 990,
a giant Boeing 767 took off from New York bound for Cairo Egypt with 100
Americans and 87 Egyptians aboard.

The takeoff had been successful and routine, but at one half hour into the
flight, at 1;48;30 ----at a moment when the pilot left the controls for a
trip to the toilet and the co-pilot was left in the cockpit alone -- an
English voice can be heard on the black box recorder saying "control it"
The co-pilot was Egyptian and spoke Egyptian in all of the recording.
ne must conclude that someone was listening, overheard the captain say
he was leaving the cockpit, then gave the order to take over control of the
plane, because, the recording indicates, suddenly, control of the plane
taken from him, i.e., the cockpit controls were bing overridden. -- After
some seconds the
co-pilot, reacting to his losse of control to a phantom controller, says,
the Arabic equivalent of "God help us," "My trust is in God" or "In your
keeping, Lord" --"Tawakkalt ala Allah.")

The co-pilot then disengaged the auto-pilot to restore control. Cockpit
control was not restored. The co-pilot again said a prayer when the
elevators dropped
putting the plane into a dive. After sixteen seconds of this dive the
Captain returned to the cockpit asking "What happening? Whats happening?"
Captain and co-pilot were presumably working to pull out of the dive, but
the controls were not responding and now the throttles still under phantom
control, turned up to full forward -- at which point the co-pilot reacted
by cutting the fuel lines. Then, still by phantom control, the right and
left elevators each moved all the way in the opposite directions and the
ailerons on both wings both went fully up. The pilot cried "Get away in the
engines! Shut the engines!" To which the co-pilot
replied, "It's shut." The last words are of the captain frantically
instructing "Pull! Let's pull! Let's pull!" At this point something shut off
the instrument recorders (or they were later erased).
The American agency investigators, over strenuous Egyptian objections,
concluded that the co-pilot pilot committed suicide!!!???? The Egyptians --
who understand the language, insist that suicide is an impossible and
absurd interpretation of last moments of conversation recorded or of the
earlier conversation at takeoff.
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Take that with the news reported by Don van Natta Jr.and Kate Zernike in the
11/04/01 New York Times that according to an F.B.I. official, the prayers
found at the crash site "exort the foot soldiers to be strong in prison."

In the face of this no reasonable man, given the little we know at the
moment, could possibley dismiss the possibility that the hijackers, never
suspecting a suicide mission, were "stung," by infiltrators posing as
leaders with orders from bin Ladin -- who gave them the right passwords and
instructions setting a non-suicide attention-seeking hijacking in motion --
but then, when the the hijacking was underway these sting agents took remote
control of the planes. making turning them into cruise missiles as part of a
gigantic geopolitical frame-up.

Dick Eastman <de1949@nwinfo.net> wrote:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/

Nov 22, 2001

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From: "Dick Eastman" <eastman@wolfenet.com>
To: "Dick Eastman" <eastman@wolfenet.com>
Subject: Th E-6 and EgyptAir more history
Date: Thu, Nov 22, 2001, 6:26 am

So just who WAS on those aircraft?

The government could point their finger at any one of us next!!

Even CNN is now reporting that the men who hijacked those aircraft were
using phony IDs, using the names of real people still living in Arab nations
in the middle east.

So, one fact is now apparent. If those who hijacked those airplanes were using stolen identities, then we don't know who they were or who they worked for. We can't. It's impossible.

Now, people who are intending to commit suicide normally don't worry about whether anyone knows their real name, and it is here that some other odd aspects of this case take on a new meaning.

In short, these men did everything they could to make sure everyone knew
who they were, or more to the point, who they were pretending to be.

In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:04:54 -0500
From: ranger116@webtv.net
Subject: Who Gets to Spend the Two Trillion First ??

Who Gets to Spend the Two Trillion First ??
Will Helicopter Berniky drop it from helicopters over depressed cities ?
Right ! Good Luck

Bush Lied - People Died
Bush Spied - Must Be Tried !

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:12:31 -0800
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
Subject: RE: Re: WTC according to NIST

Last I heard, Fort Know was emptied about 20-30 years ago. A decade or two
after we went on the paper standards, think about it, when was the last time
you saw a silver certificate.

I saw 3 a few years ago, the bank teller thought they were counterfeit.
Silver certificates were backed by Silver, we never had a gold standard as
far as I know in the last century.

Now it is who ever owns the plates for the paper money, hell, even your
dimes and quarters are steel blanks, pennies are zinc, I think Nickels are
too, our coin aren’t even worth the worthless metal they are stamped to
represent.

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From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of kitty285
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:12 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Re: WTC according to NIST

> A-ha, the conclusive gravamen!
>
> Great job!
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "catsears_2000"
> <catsears_2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > In the NIST analysis of WTC 7 collapse that can be found at:
> >
> > http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%20IIC%20-%20WTC%207%20Collapse%
<http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/WTC%20Part%20IIC%20-%20WTC%207%20Collapse%25>
> 20Final.pdf
> >
> > ... only one slide really matters. They say the collapse is due to
> the
> > "failure" of main support columns 79, 80, and/or 81, which upon
> > failing caused the entire building to go (in 8 seconds, ahaha!)
> >
> > Anyway, in the whole deck, down below is text of the crucial slide
> > where they basically admit they don't know what the fuck went
> wrong.
> >
> > Within THAT text, the crucial single line of it all is the
> following:
> >
> > "Massive size of columns 79, 80, and 81 appears to require severe
> > fires and/or damaged fireproofing to initiate thermally-related
> failures"
> >
> > -Scott Meredith
> > /AlasBabylon list owner
> >
> > ==================================================================
> > Status of Initiating Event Analysis
> > NIST continues to evaluate the factors that could have caused
> column 79,
> > 80, or 81 to fail
> > Possible contributing factors include:
> > 􀂉 Damage to components adjacent to truss #2 from debris
> impact
> > 􀂉 Damage to fireproofing from normal activities prior to
> event or debris
> > damage
> > 􀂉 Unusual fuel loads (fuel lines, high density of
> building contents)
> > Analysis to date indicates:
> > 􀂉 Massive size of columns 79, 80, and 81 appears to
> require severe
> > fires and/or damaged fireproofing to initiate thermally-related
> failures
> >
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