Discussion about 09/11/2001: [911TruthAction] Digest Number 1159

Monday, March 06, 2006

[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1159

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: RE: Tom and Controlled Demolitions
From: Bugs <brawny@twlakes.net>
2. Do we have any Psy-Ops \ Disinformation, here @ 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com ?
From: Scott Durr <insideinfo911@yahoo.com>
3. Passengers on Flight 77
From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net>
4. "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list
From: "Tom" <Tom@RepresentativePress.org>
5. RE: "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list
From: "Linda" <lindam@charter.net>
6. Re: Cheney and Rumsfeld warn of second September 11th�
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
7. all oscars go to : LOOSECHANGE911
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
8. Flt 93 landed at Cleveland Hopkins Airport
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
9. Re: Do we have any Psy-Ops \ Disinformation, here @ 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com ?
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
10. Re: What about passengers on those 9-11 flights?
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
11. Re: Tom and Controlled Demolitions
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
12. AC 130 took out pentgon wall ?
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
13. Comex vault gold brickin 280 million or 167 BILLION?
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
14. Re: Passengers on Flight 77...phone call phonies
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
15. RE: Re: What about passengers on those 9-11 flights?
From: "Linda" <lindam@charter.net>
16. RE: "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
17. The Limits of the Internet or The Silence Of the Streets
From: "Greg Nixon" <nixongreg@msn.com>
18. Re: The Limits of the Internet or The Silence Of the Streets
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
19. Re: "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
20. Re: Re: Pre-Collapse Bowing Debunks "Controlled Demolition"
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
21. Re: "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list
From: "Tom" <Tom@RepresentativePress.org>
22. Re: The Limits of the Internet or The Silence Of the Streets
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
23. Re: Re: "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
24. Robin Williams The Plan!
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
25. Re: 3rd. Plane
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:14:27 -0600
From: Bugs <brawny@twlakes.net>
Subject: Re: RE: Tom and Controlled Demolitions

Linda pm me at brawny@twlakes.net
bugs
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From: Linda
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] RE: Tom and Controlled Demolitions

Come on kids, play nice and no name-calling, or I am calling your parents...(I am a teacher!) If we want to be respected for our views....then shouldn't we respect theirs? Hey, I am new here, and what to heck....does my vote count? The facts will stand on there own in the end.

Linda-in-Wisconsin

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From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Hammond
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:29 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] RE: Tom and Controlled Demolitions

One world, You are absolutely CORRECT! And this is EXACTLY the stance that I USED to take. Just let the useless tripe blather on and show to the group the swill that they actually are. It explains very clearly on the homepage what this group is about. Let the punk stay.

Kevin

alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com> wrote:

OK, personally, I would be interested in continuing this debate with Tom because I think it's a good idea for us all to exercise our debating muscles whenever the oportunity arises. And I believe that debating 9/11 with those who disagree with us is an important part of truth action. But I understand those who consider it a distraction her! e.

So how about this: Everyone who would be interested in participating in this debate contact me & Tom off-list. We can either create a whole new yahoo group specifically for debating 9/11 or we could just debate it informally by hitting "reply to everyone" to all the email addys of those interested.

Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:

understood,

the next thing you say tom will determine your status on this group.........choose your words wisely if you are sincere

you've already been warned by kevin.

One World Living <oneworldliving@yahoo.com> wrote:

This is a PLEA to igno! re Tom and his totally idiotic reasoning for the collapse

of the WTC buildings.

The question of banning him has arisen. To do this would make this forum appear undemocratic. Let him post his garbage, but why answer him and keep these threads

going on endlessly? If people feel that his comments hurt the cause because no one

is answering his foolishness, then ban him. But why continue top waste everyone's

time and go over the same disproven arguments that have been put forth by other

boneheads? His tactics are aimed at disruption. All those that are trying to convince him should aim their GOOD work at others whom are more open-minded.

Nine Eleven is too important than to chase down every disruptor that comes along.

It is obvious he will never listen to reason. When he uses an excuse that the molten

pools of steel were caused by! the heat of pressure generated from the collapse, he

obviously knows nothing about physics. He is reaching into La-La reasoning to

support the arguments that he has gleaned from other know-nothings. When he

ignores the other mountains of EVIDENCE, he is displaying his stupidity and bias.

The four-year and one half year grind of steady information is paying off. More than 50% of Americans now dis-believe the "official" conspiracy theory. Don't be deterred or have your energy blunted by engaging in fruitless chases down dead-end alleys with

people that have an agenda. We have fallen for it too many times - we should have learned by now.

Granted, it is difficult to stand by and do nothing when these jokers appear. Rather

than engaging in prolonged useless verbal sparring, maybe a single e-mail exposing

these people for what they are would be a bet! ter response.

One World Living

P.S. I e-mailed Tom directly, basically telling him what is contained in this email.

I also told him if he answered my e-mail there would be no response. I have now

spent at least a half an hour dealing with Tom's disruptions - that's 25 minutes

too long!

In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
- Notebook, 1904

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 14:58:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Durr <insideinfo911@yahoo.com>
Subject: Do we have any Psy-Ops \ Disinformation, here @ 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com ?

Do we have any Psy-Ops \ Disinformation, here @ 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com ?
What to look for, the types who Clog things up by going on, on , always look for people��..
repeating & repeating & repeating & repeating & repeating �� the Exact same info \ Subject as in like a
limited hangout!�.over & over & over ��..going Nooooo where ..
��..& over , arguing & arguing & arguing & arguing & arguing & arguing & arguing ��.. just clogging things bringing things to a stop?
Sincerely
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 15:36:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Joe Stokes <joestokes@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Passengers on Flight 77

http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77/passengers.html

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77

American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los
Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 64 people
aboard.

CREW

Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the
plane's captain. He is survived by a wife, a daughter
and a grandson. He had more than 20 years of
experience flying with American Airlines and was a
former U.S. Navy pilot.

David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont
Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the
flight. "He was handsome and happy and very centered,"
his neighbor Travis White, told The Washington Post.
"His life was the kind of life I wanted to have some
day."

Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a
flight attendant for 30 years. She left behind a
husband, a pilot, and a daughter and son.

Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper,
Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth
Lewis.

Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper,
Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer
Lewis.

Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight
attendant.

PASSENGERS

Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who
worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human
Services and the surgeon general to address racial and
ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of
Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last
year was named the Luther Terry Fellow of the
Association of Teachers of Preventative Medicine.

Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.

M.J. Booth

Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary
School in Washington. He was embarking on an
educational trip to the Channel Islands National
Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as
part of a program funded by the National Geographic
Society.

Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an
employee of Cisco Systems Inc.

William Caswell

Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a
sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in
Washington. She was accompanying a student on an
educational trip to the Channel Islands National
Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as
part of a program funded by the National Geographic
Society.

Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School
in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational
trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary
near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program
funded by the National Geographic Society.

James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was
a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in
Washington. He was accompanying a student on an
educational trip to the Channel Islands National
Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as
part of a program funded by the National Geographic
Society.

Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary
School in Washington. He was embarking on an
educational trip to the Channel Islands National
Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as
part of a program funded by the National Geographic
Society.

Eddie Dillard

Charles Droz

Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a
teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.

Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park,
Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic
Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data
systems for NASA and also developed data systems for
the study of global and regional environmental issues.
Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie
Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and
Dana, 3.

Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was
the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie
Whittingham.

Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was
the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie
Whittingham.

Joe Ferguson was the director of the National
Geographic Society's geography education outreach
program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of
students and teachers on an educational trip to the
Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native,
he joined the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final
hours at the Geographic reveal the depth of his
commitment to one of the things he really loved," said
John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here
at the office until late Monday evening preparing for
this trip. It was his goal to make this trip perfect
in every way."

Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a
retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines
pilot.

Dee Flagg

Richard Gabriel

Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a
health-care consulting firm.

Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes,
California.

Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior
executive at the Defense Department.

Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia,
was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a
wireless data and messaging company.

Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office
manager for the National Geographic Society. She was
accompanying a group of students and teachers on an
educational trip to the Channel Islands in California.
Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his
fondest memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a
colleague once left him while they were rafting the
Monkey River in Belize. "This was quintessential Ann
-- living life to the fullest and wanting to share it
with others," he said.

Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer
from El Segundo, California.

Yvonne Kennedy

Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit
organization manager.

Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington
firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in
1993 and was part of the its telecommunications
practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.

Norma Langsteuerle

Dong Lee

Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was
the associate director of clinical research for a
biotech firm.

Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was
president and chief executive officer of Work-Life
Benefits, a consultation and referral service. He was
married and had two children. Newton was on his way
back to Orange County to retrieve his family's yellow
Labrador, who had been left behind until they could
settle into their new home in Arlington, Virginia.

Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who
often appeared on CNN and was married to U.S.
Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her
husband as the plane was being hijacked and described
some details, including that the attackers were armed
with knives. She had planned to take a different
flight, but she changed it at the last minute so that
she could be with her husband on his birthday. She
worked as an investigator for the House Government
Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on
the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.

Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a
Boeing propulsion engineer.

Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an
electrical engineer with BAE Systems.

Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for
government relations at the Washington office of
Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great
Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She
worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on
developing a new policy governing cellular therapies,
announced in 1997. She also worked on other major
health-care legislation.

Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and
business lawyer.

John Sammartino

Diane Simmons

George Simmons

Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a
women's gymnastics coach at the University of
California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the
post August 31 and was making the trip to California
to start work.

Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.

Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie
Elementary School in Washington. She was accompanying
a student on an educational trip to the Channel
Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara,
California, as part of a program funded by the
National Geographic Society.

Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.

Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park,
Maryland. The professor of public policy at Georgetown
University in Washington was traveling with her
husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two
daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to
Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia.
Whittington had been named a visiting fellow at
Australian National University in Canberra.

John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.

Vicki Yancey

Shuyin Yang

Yuguag Zheng

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:53:23 -0000
From: "Tom" <Tom@RepresentativePress.org>
Subject: "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list

The "DO YOU WISH?" post was of a right wing power kiss up wish list

John Perna wrote, "Yes, but right now we could only get public support
for this" and Naveed wrote, "LMAO!!!! couldn't have said it better!"

John what you posted was a right wing power kiss up wish list.

Your post acts like the Iraq war was a good thing and that the world
should be grateful. Your post talks about rewarding the countries that
participated in the illegal war on Iraq. Your post acts like U.S.
foreign policies are something the world should be grateful for. You
wish that President Bush would punish countries that didn't go along
with the war of aggression on Iraq?!!?

John Perna and Naveed, you guys think the 911 Truth Action members
should be having wish lists that are indistinguishable from right wing
extremist apologists for U.S. government power? I really don't think
you two have a grasp on the Iraq war or U.S. foreign polices. Agreeing
with that wish list makes you sound exactly like "people who have
obviously been brainwashed by republican talk radio"

When you post stuff like "Nearly a century of trying to help folks
live a decent life around the world has only earned us the undying
enmity of just about everyone on the planet" you really expose
yourself as someone who doesn't have a clue what harm U.S. policy
makers have been doing to people around the world.

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:06:11 -0600
From: "Linda" <lindam@charter.net>
Subject: RE: "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list

Right winged, left winged, panty liners with wings��.what about the bird
with one wing��..those gray areas of life?

Linda-in-Wisconsin

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[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 5:53 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish
list

The "DO YOU WISH?" post was of a right wing power kiss up wish list

John Perna wrote, "Yes, but right now we could only get public support
for this" and Naveed wrote, "LMAO!!!! couldn't have said it better!"

John what you posted was a right wing power kiss up wish list.

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 17:05:31 -0800 (PST)
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Cheney and Rumsfeld warn of second September 11th�

This was an interesting article and it had me very scared until I noticed that it's from Sept of last year. If those 20,000 troops from the 101st Airborne were really sent to Iraq to prep for an Iran invasion, why didn't they do it yet? After all, the article points out that the official reason for their deployment was security and they are trained solely for offensive operations:
"they would know that the many hundreds of thousands of dollars it costs to train a paratrooper will be quickly lost if that trooper is required to act for any length of time as a prison guard, detainee convoy escort, or garrison soldier around a prison. Paratroopers must train as paratroopers or they soon cease to be paratroopers and become useless".
So it's 6 months later now. What happened?

Scott Durr <insideinfo911@yahoo.com> wrote:

�Cheney and Rumsfeld warn of second September 11th�

Yea as soon as they get all their players in place!
Before you can get the last attack in the open, here comes another one?

Scott \ Manchurian
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Staged attack to precede war against Iran
Psychological manipulation and military plans are now being fine-tuned and put into place in order to carry out a war against Iran. This manipulation of the public at large strongly resembles preparations taken prior to the current war in Iraq, giving rise to suspicions of a potential diversionary tactic by the U.S. military. At the same time that pressure to pull the troops out of Iraq is intensifying, the U.S. is dispatching an entire division there, possibly to employ against Iran at a later date. According to author Webster Tarpley, the coming war in Iran will be preceded by a false flag operation (a strike carried out by Party A, who is both victim and perpetrator, but who in turn assigns guilt to Party B). Posted Mar 5, 2006 09:49 AM PST
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:47:30 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: all oscars go to : LOOSECHANGE911

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=9-

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:48:42 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Flt 93 landed at Cleveland Hopkins Airport

200 sheepled into nasa warehouse for jonestown koolaid
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=9-

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:50:29 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Do we have any Psy-Ops \ Disinformation, here @ 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com ?

..talks like it..walks like it..disinfo is, as disinfo does..

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Scott Durr
<insideinfo911@...> wrote:
>
> Do we have any Psy-Ops \ Disinformation, here @
911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com ?
> What to look for, the types who Clog things up by going on, on ,
always look for people��..
> repeating & repeating & repeating & repeating & repeating �� the
Exact same info \ Subject as in like a
> limited hangout!�.over & over & over ��..going Nooooo where ..
> ��..& over , arguing & arguing & arguing & arguing & arguing &
arguing & arguing ��.. just clogging things bringing things to
a stop?
> Sincerely
> ��. Scott \ Manchurian
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:53:14 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: What about passengers on those 9-11 flights?

UA switched planes...Flt 93 landed at Cleveland Hopkins 10:45, 200
passengers herded into nasa warehouse around the back entrance...
see film
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=9-

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, John Perna
<savefreedom2005@...> wrote:
>
> Flight 93 HAS BEEN A CENTER FOR DISINFO EXTROIDINAIRE.
> We are told that there were no pilots.
> We are told that there were no hijackers.
> We are told that the plane was SHOT DOWN.
> We are EVEN told that there was no plane.
>
> http://www.poconorecord.com/report/wtc/63.htm
> There were pilots on the planes when they took off.
> It would not be possible for the planes to have left without
pilots.
> If there were no hijackers, then who stopped the pilots from
controlling the planes?
> Cockpit recordings were made;
> in which we can hear the hijackers speaking to each other in
ARABIC.
> Cockpit recordings contain the sounds of a struggle.
> Several people made cell phone calls, while the hijackings were
in progress.
> These people gave abundant details about the hijackings.
> Todd Beamer's last words over an open phone were: "Let's roll!"
> Flight 93 did not hit any target, but crashed instead.
> Why did it crash instead?
> Did Todd Beamer "roll" against a remote control system, or a
missle?
> There are hundreds of people, who knew some of the hijackers,
> while they lived here, before the hijacking;
> including girl friends, and FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS.
> DUH?????????????
> THE BIG QUESTION:
> WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 43 PEOPLE,
> WHO WERE ON THE PLANE WHEN IT TOOK OFF,
> AND HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD FROM SINCE?
> REAL LIVE FRIENDS, AND RELATIVES, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
> Todd Beamer's wife Lisa, would like to know.
> The assumption seems to be that anyone,
> who does not accept any particular outlandish theory,
> is claiming that there is NO conspiracy,
> or that our government is not involved in a conspiracy.
> This is an old intelligence trick called "Poisoning the well":
> the intentional promotion of lies to blend with an embarrassing
truth to discredit the embarrassing truth.
> The government shills are trying to conceal the real truth by
fueling outlandish theories;
> which will ultimately be discredited.
> When those outlandish theories are discredited,
> then many people will dismiss the truth;
> which the government shills were able to associate with those
outlandish theories.
>
> Linda <lindam@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url
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{behavior:url(#default#VML);} This exactly what I was
looking for yesterday, as I viewed so many of the recommended
readings/viewings that this site suggested. I even did some
research on line and couldn't find anything in regards to: "What
about passengers on those 9-11 flights?" Have any of the family
members spoken out? Would it really be that hard to change their
identities and resume a normal life without Joe Public knowing?
Maybe these are the ones that are stealing other people's identities
and that is why the government will do nothing about identity
theft. (Far fetched, I know�..just thinking out loud again)
>
> I did find that some articles, that the alleged highjackers have
been seen: Is there any truth in these stories that you know?
> Linda-in-Wisconsin
>
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> Subject: [911TruthAction] What about passengers on those 9-11
flights?
>
> What about passengers on those 9-11 flights?
>
>
> What about passengers on those 9-11 flights, scenario goes�.
> Some people may have been considered collateral
damage "deceased", and or living on what some have come to
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:55:24 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Tom and Controlled Demolitions

..watch the film..9 to 10 second free fall collapse after freight
elevator shaft explosion and the 6 support columns around the center
elevators..and additional thermite placed throughout..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=9-

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:01:19 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: AC 130 took out pentgon wall ?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=9-

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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:02:30 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Comex vault gold brickin 280 million or 167 BILLION?

trucks waiting to evacuate
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=9-

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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:04:48 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Passengers on Flight 77...phone call phonies

see Olsen's statement about need for fascist disinfo..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=9-

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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 21:01:23 -0600
From: "Linda" <lindam@charter.net>
Subject: RE: Re: What about passengers on those 9-11 flights?

Does anyone else have a hard time listening to this? The words are broken.

Linda-in-Wisconsin

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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:24:26 -0800 (PST)
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list

The post was not about getting INTO the war.
The post was about getting OUT the war.

Linda <lindam@charter.net> wrote:

v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Right winged, left winged, panty liners with wings��.what about the bird with one wing��..those gray areas of life?

Linda-in-Wisconsin

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Subject: [911TruthAction] "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list

The "DO YOU WISH?" post was of a right wing power kiss up wish list

John Perna wrote, "Yes, but right now we could only get public support
for this" and Naveed wrote, "LMAO!!!! couldn't have said it better!"

John what you posted was a right wing power kiss up wish list.

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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 03:28:58 -0000
From: "Greg Nixon" <nixongreg@msn.com>
Subject: The Limits of the Internet or The Silence Of the Streets

Attn: Jolly

I think at this point if you want to HELP the 9/11 "movement"
shut down this list. It's a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME and thoroughly
infiltrated with BS. This list does NOT lead to activism, but gives
a false sense that there is a national movement. There is not.
9/11 truth is near accepted as mainstream news, but ACTIVISM is now
just about officialy over (please do not write in with the
individual projects you are all engaged in, it doesn't change the
big picture).

Bird flu concentration camps anyone?

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0305-29.htm

Published on Sunday, March 5, 2006 by CommonDreams.org

The Limits of the Internet or The Silence Of the Streets
by Brigitte Sch�n

While we're all sitting comfortably at some desk looking at our
computer screens, reading articles by people whose opinion we
cherish, celebrating the feeling that we might be able to change
whatever we want to change by just writing the kind of highly
opinionated piece I am about to write, I have lately been giving
this complacent feeling of mine a thorough cleansing which led to
the following musings:
What if the world, this world of TV images we know, still was pretty
archaic at heart and what if it still primarily reacted to centuries-
old images and trigger patterns after all? In other words: What do
political campaigns and articles via the internet really manage to
accomplish? And: Does this mean that I still ought to brave icy
winds or pouring rain instead and hold up some banners in
demonstrations in order to really achieve anything, and does this
mean that all these thoughful articles on the net don't have as much
influence as all of us couch revolutionaries would like to believe?
Let me lead you through a little time machine experiment. All I'd
ask you to do is imagine that there was an internet around when any
of the following occured (there are thousands of cases to choose
from; I just randomly picked a few):
The British are occupying India. Instead of rallying hundreds of
thousands of Indians in peaceful marches, Mahatma Ghandi launches an
internet campaign against the Raj (=British rule of India). Your
best bet: Do you think that the British would still be ruling India?
Next stop the Iron Curtain. Instead of hundreds of thousands of East
Germans chanting "WE are the people!" every single day for weeks
against the leaders of their People's Republic (hence the chant),
they launch a massive e-mail-campaign demanding freedom and
liberties hitherto not granted in East Germany from their Politburo.
Your best bet: Would the Berlin Wall have come down as a result?
Let's go to recent news: Although I am personally appalled at the
violent frenzy which erupted in the Arab world about those cartoons
in a negligable, albeit famously right-wing, Danish newspaper - the
uproar looked very much like an orchestrated opportunity these
dictatorships granted their subjects to finally let off some steam
to me - would irate articles on discussion forums in the Moslem
world have attracted the same amount of international attention to
the cause of the Moslems' grievances as all these demonstrators did?
What's your best bet?
And, last but not least: Are you aware of the fact that Iran,
according to what I've heard, has a thriving internet community
which to a large extent is critical of the government? No? But would
you be aware of substantial opposition in Iran if on NBC you watched
these same people demonstrate? Yes?
Fine. Now you might be ready for what I am really trying to get at:
As long as there aren't any massive NUMEROUS and VISIBLE protests
against the present US administration's machinations, forget the
idea that any well-meaning five-people-vigil in your home town or
any irate article on the net will change anything.
The only thing that embarrasses a government is mass protests for
MANY DAYS IN A ROW. They can't be overlooked, it's hard to ignore
them, they can't be shrugged off, they are bound to be aired in
one's country plus around the world, they are in short a major
newsworthy event.
While the internet is fabulous when it comes to finding out how many
like-minded people there are around you, it is at the same time
sadly a silent and invisible weapon. No internet campagain will ever
make it to prime time TV or to the front page of any paper. In case
you are in doubt, just remember Ukraine last winter. It was the
sight of these people braving it for many days in the freeze in
their orange attire which caught your attention, wasn't it? Would
you have noticed any anger on Ukrainian websites instead??
Or would YOU know about Cindy Sheehan if she'd only vented her grief
and anger on the web and not physically outside Bush's ranch?
At some stage the pent-up wrath of many Americans against their
government would have to be expressed in lonr-lasting mass (we're
talking millions) protests in American cities if people really want
to make a difference. They have to be prepared to stand up and be
counted.
Or how else could one of Europe's most famous philosophers, Bernard-
Henri L�vy, come up with the diagnosis "semi-comatose state of the
American Left" on CommonDreams nearly a month ago after having
travelled in the US? Well, if you leave your computer, that's
definitely the impression.
Ironically, in times of an overkill of electronic communication, it
is still the physical protest which to this day seems to be the only
action capable of moving mountains, not its (admittedly more
comfortable) cyber ersatz.
Deep down, human perception hasn't changed that much.
So you better get out your raingear...
Brigitte Sch�n (b.schoen@chello.at) is an Austrian conference
interpreter, occasional writer and political activist. She lives in
Vienna.

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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:38:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Limits of the Internet or The Silence Of the Streets

I love you Greg! But you're wrong. Sort of anyway. And I thought that I was extreme!LMAO!!!!

Greg Nixon <nixongreg@msn.com> wrote: Attn: Jolly

Bird flu concentration camps anyone?

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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:51:20 -0800 (PST)
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list

You seem to have missed the point that this post urges the
United States to
STOP ALL OF THE MEDDLING IN THE REST OF THE WORLD.
You say is is bad, and I say the we should stop.
So why do we disagree?

Tom <Tom@RepresentativePress.org> wrote:
The "DO YOU WISH?" post was of a right wing power kiss up wish list

John Perna wrote, "Yes, but right now we could only get public support
for this" and Naveed wrote, "LMAO!!!! couldn't have said it better!"

John what you posted was a right wing power kiss up wish list.

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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:53:37 -0800 (PST)
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Pre-Collapse Bowing Debunks "Controlled Demolition"

>One of the CONSTANT mantras of the "9/11 truth" movement is >that it
>was like a conventional demolition

This is what's called a strawman argument, Tom.
What most 9/11 skeptics assert is that explosives must have been used to bring down the towers. NOT that they were brought down the same way as a conventional demolition.

Tom <Tom@RepresentativePress.org> wrote:
--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, alan random <alanrandom@...> wrote:

> Yes, the towers fell from the top down, unlike a conventional
demolition.

"unlike a conventional demolition." You are allowed to say that here?
Seriously, is that fact allowed to be stated in this forum? First I
read no censoring on this 911 Truth Action group yet Kevin Hammond has
a fit when facts are presented that he doesn't like and he threatens
to ban me.

One of the CONSTANT mantras of the "9/11 truth" movement is that it
was like a conventional demolition. This is supposed to be one of the
important clues that it was an "inside job" yet Alan Random has dared
state the fact that it was "unlike a conventional demolition."

So what is the verdit of the moderator? I am serious. Is Alan Random
at risk of being banned too for saying that the WTC collapses were
"unlike a conventional demolition?"

http://www.geocities.com/factsnotfantasy/

> Tom <Tom@...> wrote:
>
> Did you even watch any video of the towers falling? They fell from the
> top down. They did not explode from the basement. Gee whiz.
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:14:22 -0000
From: "Tom" <Tom@RepresentativePress.org>
Subject: Re: "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, John Perna
<savefreedom2005@...> wrote:
>
> The post was not about getting INTO the war.
> The post was about getting OUT the war.
>

Your response is a non sequitur. I wasn't arguing that it was about
getting into the war. I was talking about the nonsence that the post
wished for. Yes it was about getting out of the war. It is what a
clueless right wing extremist apologist for U.S. power would think is
a good way to get out of the war. Why are you posting stuff like
that? Do you even understand what you posted?

Yes it was about getting out and rewarding the war criminals that
started the war and punishing those that refused to participate. WHY
DO YOU WISH FOR THAT?

The post also said, "In the future, together with Congress, I will
work to redirect this money toward solving the vexing problems we
still have at home. On that note, a word to terrorist organizations.
Attack us and we will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your
friends from the face of the earth. Thirsting for a good country to
terrorize? Try Cuba ..."

You posted a self righteous and clueless post that assumes the party
line that the U.S. is not a terrorist organization and is simply a
victim of terrorism. Unbelievable! After all the years of U.S.
terrorism against Cuba you post something like "DO YOU WISH".

"For more than 40 years, anti-Cuba terrorist organizations based in
Miami have engaged in countless terrorist activities against Cuba, and
against anyone who advocates a normalization of relations between the
U.S. and Cuba. More than 3,000 Cubans have died as a result of these
terrorists' attacks." Seems you never heard of the Cuban Five either.
They were trying to prevent terrorist attacks on their country of
Cuba. http://www.freethefive.org/

"US terrorism against Cuba has been going on since 1959 and the fact
that the US can label Cuba a terrorist state when it has been carrying
out a major terrorist campaign against Cuba since 1959, picking up
heavily in the'60s and peaking in the `70s in fact, that's pretty
astonishing.

But I think if you do a careful study of the American media and
intellectual journals and intellectual opinions and so on, you will
find nothing about this and not a word suggesting that there is
anything strange about it. And if you look at the scholarly literature
on terrorism by people like Walter Laqueur and other respected
scholars, and take a look at the index, you find Cuba mentioned often
and if you look at the page references, what is mentioned is
suspicions that Cuba may have been involved in some terrorist actions,
but what you will not find is a reference to the very well documented
US terrorist operations against Cuba. And that is not controversial.
We have reams of declassified government documents on it. There is
extensive scholarship on it, but it cannot enter into public
discourse. It's a pretty remarkable achievement, not just of the media
but of the intellectual community altogether." -
http://www.walterlippmann.com/Chomsky-Cuba.html

And here you are John posting something like "DO YOU WISH" that
regurgitates the same false world view of the media and the dominant
intellectual community. You post something that supports the status
quo and denies the ugly realities.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Tom
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 5:53 PM
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [911TruthAction] "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss
up wish list
>
> The "DO YOU WISH?" post was of a right wing power kiss up wish list
>
> John Perna wrote, "Yes, but right now we could only get public support
> for this" and Naveed wrote, "LMAO!!!! couldn't have said it better!"
>
> John what you posted was a right wing power kiss up wish list.
>
> Your post acts like the Iraq war was a good thing and that the world
> should be grateful. Your post talks about rewarding the countries that
> participated in the illegal war on Iraq. Your post acts like U.S.
> foreign policies are something the world should be grateful for. You
> wish that President Bush would punish countries that didn't go along
> with the war of aggression on Iraq?!!?
>
> John Perna and Naveed, you guys think the 911 Truth Action members
> should be having wish lists that are indistinguishable from right wing
> extremist apologists for U.S. government power? I really don't think
> you two have a grasp on the Iraq war or U.S. foreign polices. Agreeing
> with that wish list makes you sound exactly like "people who have
> obviously been brainwashed by republican talk radio"
>
> When you post stuff like "Nearly a century of trying to help folks
> live a decent life around the world has only earned us the undying
> enmity of just about everyone on the planet" you really expose
> yourself as someone who doesn't have a clue what harm U.S. policy
> makers have been doing to people around the world.
>
>

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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:18:59 -0800 (PST)
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Limits of the Internet or The Silence Of the Streets

Greg,

I find this article to be flawed and unrealistic. First, the author neglects to consider that gov't propaganda and it's media control startegy works differently now from the way it did in her examples. Second, she fails to realize that most people can not afford to take off work long enough to be out on the street for days and days and days, as she recommends. Thus, we couldn't get the massive crowds that would be effective. Third, even when massive protests were formed, as in the anti-Iraq protests of 2003, the consolidated media simply ignored it in favor of Kobe Bryant & Martha Stewart. Thus, 95% of Americans probably don't even know those protests happened.
But...
95% of Americans are on the internet!
The key is in finding those people and reaching them (through debate forums, newsgroups, letter writing, etc) instead of wasting our time just preaching to the choir and feeling like righteous insiders.
I'm not saying that going out on the street is ineffective. I do it myself when I hand people flyers or post them on cars. And if I were in Vermont, I'd be out there with you. But I'm in Arizona, and despite my best efforts, I can't find one goddamn person to help me set up a 9/11 truth table or carpool to a protest or participate in an action event.
But I can get online. And who knows, maybe if enough of us are successful in waking people up online, we'll be able to recruit more people to join us out on the streets.
So I've always said that when it comes to spreading 9/11 truth, do what you feel most inspired to do and what you feel most competent doing. Just do something!

So I find your pessimism about the internet unwarranted. It may not be perfect, but it's better than nothing. So let's use it while we still can!

Greg Nixon <nixongreg@msn.com> wrote:
Attn: Jolly

Bird flu concentration camps anyone?

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0305-29.htm

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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:22:23 -0800 (PST)
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: "DO YOU WISH?" was a right wing power kiss up wish list

You seem to have missed the point that this post urges the
United States to
STOP ALL OF THE MEDDLING IN THE REST OF THE WORLD.
You say it is bad, and I say the we should stop.
So why do we disagree?

Tom <Tom@RepresentativePress.org> wrote: --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, John Perna
<savefreedom2005@...> wrote:
>
> The post was not about getting INTO the war.
> The post was about getting OUT the war.
>

Yes it was about getting out and rewarding the war criminals that
started the war and punishing those that refused to participate. WHY
DO YOU WISH FOR THAT?

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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:25:03 -0800 (PST)
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: Robin Williams The Plan!

The Plan!

Robin Williams, wearing a shirt that says "I love New York" in Arabic.

You gotta love Robin Williams...... Even if he's nuts! Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan.

What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.

Robin Williams' plan... (Hard to argue with this logic!)

"I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan."

1) "The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past & present.
You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those "good ole boys", we will never "interfere" again.

2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea, the Middle East, and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.

4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5) No foreign "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a "D" and it's back home baby.

6) The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.

7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we'll go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer.

11) The Language we speak is ENGLISH...learn it...or LEAVE... Now, isn't that a winner of a plan? The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses. She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece of me?' "

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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:45:03 -0500
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
Subject: Re: 3rd. Plane

Damn the Bitch,she sure looked like was enjoying all the attention while at
the white house with Bush,her ass is mud too then !!!

Kitty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] 3rd. Plane

> Kitty,
>
> I only heard on TV that it looked like the passengers had taken over a
> plane, then I heard that this couldn't be so as the plane had already
> crashed. Then we had government people telling us it had happened. At
that
> point in the day I wasn't trusting anything our government told us. I
wanted
> 2 hours after the last plane that is popularly accounted for to find out
> where the 5th plane was headed.
>
> I have heard that the plane's altitude was too far above the cell towers
to
> have made a cell call too, even heard that while watching TV that morning
> from some TV support crew in the background, suppose he tried it?
>
> You will have to refer this to the expert researchers who would have proof
> if the cell phone call was even possible. I wouldn't trust snopes on this
> one considering the number of times their articles have the distinct stamp
> of government Approval, the GOP stamp and Big Pharma's stamps of approval
> too. She rarely ever allows anything questionable to ever have all the
facts
> in those areas.
>
> It is interesting that ''Let's roll'' was used, that being a Military term
> for the start of an offensive. It is also interesting that there isn't a
> transcript of that call, so it can be what ever someone said it was, if I
am
> correct in this assumption.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of kitty285
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 6:46 AM
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] 3rd. Plane
>
> Scott wasn't the plane that was heading for the white House brought down
by
> it's passengers,the one passenger talking to his wife on cell phone as it
> was being high jacked told his wife im not going to allow this,we have
some
> guys here who are going to attack the high jackers,or something like
> that,his last words she heard her husband say was lets roll to the men who
> were going to fight the high jackers,this is when the plane went down.
> Is this the plane that looked like a missal crash,was this a put up
job
> too ?
> Bush had this blond women in the audience at allot of his speeches.
> Kitty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
> To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:06 PM
> Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] 3rd. Plane
>
>
> > Kitty,
> >
> > I have the distinction of having watched 2 different TV stations from 8
> > minutes after the first plane hit, to 4 hours later.
> >
> > I am not the person who ahs done loads of research, all I can state for
> > certain is what I saw and was told as the events occurred that morning,
> > between my breaks of screaming out my front door that "we are under
attack
> > and the US Military is no where to be found!"
> >
> > I got through that hard curve of disbelieving that those in charge of
the
> > defense of our country would betray us, sacrifice citizens for their own
> > causes, the hard way that morning, from there, good folks like many
here,
> > Alan Ramdon for one, have put together other details I wasn't privy to
> that
> > morning.
> >
> > The interview with the Colonel was made national security along with all
> of
> > the tapes for the 'supposed plane' that hit the Pentagon. I doubt it was
a
> > Passenger plane on the simple fact that they don't want us to see what
it
> > was that hit.
> >
> > The Colonel stated, and the reporters had him repeat, there were 5
> confirmed
> > boogies that the FAA had reported, that had doubled back on their
courses
> > from the Boston area to head towards the Wash DC NYC area and one had
> > already hit the Wash DC area, and that his planes were still grounded
and
> > unarmed as ordered by his superiors.
> >
> > For the life of me, I can't understand why that tape would have been
> > confiscated and the US Public not allowed to see it for their own eyes.
> > <dripping sarcasm>
> >
> > So with the plane that supposedly hit in the Pennsylvania field, that is
4
> > planes. after that, all I can do is guess. In fact, I seem to be about
the
> > only person that knows there were 5 planes. I have only heard from one
> other
> > person that says that they saw that interview. Pretty damning, and they
> have
> > been getting away with it, but the lies are getting harder and harder to
> put
> > forth as truth.
> >
> > I am not sure what you mean by 'the let's roll plane'.
> >
> > Have you checked out the files area of the group yet?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of kitty285
> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:55 AM
> > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] 3rd. Plane
> >
> >
> > Thank you very much Scott,so this is the supposed to be Let's Roll
> plane,it
> > was a missile ?
> > Im a new member,it seems there are some things i was not aware of,if
so
> > the lets roll plane was a lie ? Was it a put up job,and this mans wife
> that
> > was always at Bush events was there was lying ? Im confused. Kitty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
> > To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 4:08 AM
> > Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] 3rd. Plane
> >
> >
> > > there were 2 on the WTC towers, one on the pentagon and the 4ths was
the
> > one
> > > that supposedly the passengers took down, but there wasn't any
wreckage
> > and
> > > the crash site looked like a missile not a place crash and I believe
> that
> > is
> > > one of the planes that has been seen to still be in use around the
> world.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of kitty285
> > > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 6:32 PM
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] 3rd. Plane
> > >
> > >
> > > But im talking about the plane the passengers brought down that was
> > heading
> > > for the white house,the Lets roll one,sorry not to speck lightly of
the
> > > dead,or the wife of the lets roll man,do we know it's true,lot's of
> drama
> > > there,to make sure white house was next,im very uneasy about this
one,so
> > > many lies about every thing,just please think about it :(
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
> > > To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:25 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] 3rd. Plane
> > >
> > >
> > > > You mean the 4th plane? And there were 5 confirmed 'boogies' as the
> > > Colonel
> > > > of the Norad Air Force base called them, including the first one
that
> > hit
> > > > the WTC, when he was interviewed between the 2 plane hits on the WTC
> > > towers.
> > > >
> > > > I never have heard a 'plausible' explanation for what happed to that
> > one,
> > > > but then again, the film clips of his interview were 'National
> Security'
> > > by
> > > > Noon Pacific time. I bet National Security, he stated he was told to
> > stand
> > > > down, ground and not arm anything he had and it was his base that
was
> > > > responsible for the protection of Wash DC and NYC.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of kitty285
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:07 PM
> > > > To: 911TruthAction
> > > > Subject: [911TruthAction] 3rd. Plane
> > > >
> > > > Why have i not heard someone say the 3rd plane went down because it
> was
> > > not
> > > > meant to hit the white house,just give that impression,just a
thought.
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