Discussion about 09/11/2001: [911TruthAction] Digest Number 1221

Wednesday, April 12, 2006

[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1221

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. GANGSTER GOVERNMENT A LEAKY PRESIDENT RUNS AFOUL OF 'LITTLE RICO'
From: "Debi Clark" <debiclark@sbcglobal.net>
2. Science Advisory Board quietly dismantled! tvnl news
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
3. Fw: Mossad helped plan 911, through agents in Arab groups - Leland Lehrman of Physics 911
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
4. Fw: The Age of Synthetic Terror, by Professor A. K. Dewdney of Physics 911
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
5. Re: Do Mexicans have Permits For Protests of 50K to 500,000 ...
From: mann david <dmann51@yahoo.com>
6. 9/11 Audio Tapes Released
From: "Cait" <ansith@gmail.com>
7. Mr. Bush, We Know What You Did That Summer ! - September 11th, 2001
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
8. A Day in the Life: 4/11/6
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
9. Re: Urgent Request! TO ANYONE OR EVERYONE!
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
10. Re: Fw: Jew Baiting
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
11. Re: Urgent Request! TO ANYONE OR EVERYONE!
From: "Cait" <ansith@gmail.com>
12. Re: Jew Baiting
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
13. Re: Fw: Jew Baiting
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
14. [Bush_Be_Gone] Mr. Bush, We Know What You Did That Summer ! - September 11th, 2001
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
15. RE: Re: Fw: Jew Baiting
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
16. Re: Fw: Jew Baiting
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
17. Re: Re: Fw: Jew Baiting
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
18. My sampling was wrong -- I was wrong -- many Jews died at the WTC according to this victim list
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
19. Re: My sampling was wrong -- I was wrong -- many Jews died at the WTC according to this victim list
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
20. Re: My sampling was wrong -- I was wrong -- many Jews died at the WTC according to this victim list
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
21. Israel's Connection to 9/11
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
22. Anyone working on activist projects here?
From: "Greg Nixon" <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
23. Re: Israel's Connection to 9/11
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
24. Re-Post for New Members: Think You Know What Happened on 9/11?
From: "Greg Nixon" <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
25. Re: TimeToTell-"Joint Chiefs of Staff" Remove Bush/Cheney Now BeforeWWII
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:44:34 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
From: "Debi Clark" <debiclark@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: GANGSTER GOVERNMENT A LEAKY PRESIDENT RUNS AFOUL OF 'LITTLE RICO'

GANGSTER GOVERNMENT

A LEAKY PRESIDENT RUNS AFOUL OF 'LITTLE RICO'

Buzzflash
by Greg Palast
Sunday, April 9, 2006

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=490&row=0

It's a crime. No kidding. But the media has it all wrong. As usual.

'Scooter' Libby finally outed 'Mr. Big,' the perpetrator of the heinous
disclosure of the name of secret agent Valerie Plame. It was the President
of United States himself -- in conspiracy with his Vice-President. Now the
pundits are arguing over whether our war-a-holic President had the legal
right to leak this national security information. But, that's a fake debate
meant to distract you.

Download the Podcast of this Blog

OK, let's accept the White House alibi that releasing Plame's identity was
no crime. But if that's true, they've committed a bigger crime: Bush and
Cheney knowingly withheld vital information from a grand jury investigation,
a multimillion dollar inquiry the perps themselves authorized. That's akin
to calling in a false fire alarm or calling the cops for a burglary that
never happened -- but far, far worse. Let's not forget that in the hunt for
the perpetrator of this non-crime, reporter Judith Miller went to jail.

Think about that. While Miller sat in a prison cell, Bush and Cheney were
laughing their sick heads off, knowing the grand jury testimony, the special
prosecutor's subpoenas and the FBI's terrorizing newsrooms were nothing but
fake props in Bush's elaborate charade, Cheney's Big Con.

On February 10, 2004, our not-so-dumb-as-he-sounds President stated, "Listen, I know of nobody -- I don't know of anybody in my administration who leaked classified information. If somebody did leak classified information, I'd like to know it, and we'll take the appropriate action. And this investigation is a good thing. ...And if people have got solid information, please come forward with it."

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:48:04 -0000
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
Subject: Science Advisory Board quietly dismantled! tvnl news

HEADLINES and NEWS LINKS Courtesy of TvNewsLies.org
http://tvnewslies.org/news
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Apr.11-2006
HEALTH & SCIENCE : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#health

**Energy Secretary Quietly Dismantles Independent Science Advisory
Board - Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman has quietly disbanded the
Secretary of Energy Advisory Board (SEAB), the department's
"principal independent advisory board on scientific and technical
matters," reports Nature magazine.
· Depleted Uranium a tool to depopulate the world

WAR : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#war

· One US soldier killed, one wounded in Tal Afar
· Rocket Kills 6 Children at Afghan School
· Did Plame out WH plans for finding WMD in Iraq? - Did the
White House plan to 'find' WMD in Iraq until Brewster-
Jennings intercepted their shipment?

POLITICS : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news#politics

· Can We Call the 2000 & 2004 Elections a Coup Yet?
· David Shuster reports on the Presidential Leaker
· Phone-Jamming Records Point to White House - Key figures
in a phone-jamming scheme designed to keep New Hampshire
Democrats from voting in 2002 had regular contact with the
White House and Republican Party as the plan was unfolding,
phone records introduced in criminal court show.

ECONOMY : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news#economy

· For Some CEOs, Pay Soars Past $100 Million Mark
· Drug prices for US elderly up 6 pct in 2005: study

9/11 News : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#911

· Physicist says heat substance felled WTC - "It looks like
thermite with sulfur added, which really is a very clever
idea," Steven Jones, professor of physics at BYU, told a
meeting of the Utah Academy of Science, Arts and Letters at
Snow College Friday.

CONGRESS : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#congress

· McCain blasts 527 groups, then his treasurer sets up a
527 group.
· Lieberman not ruling out running as independent

DOMESTIC : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#domestic

· Bush, Justice Dept. Among Muzzle Winners - President Bush
and the Justice Department are among the winners of the 2006
Jefferson Muzzle awards, given by a free-speech group to
those it considers the most egregious First Amendment
violators in the past year.
· Workers accused of fudging '04 recount - After the 2004
presidential election, Cuyahoga County election workers
secretly skirted rules designed to make sure all votes were
counted correctly, a special prosecutor charges.

INTERNATIONAL : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#international

· France scraps youth job law

EDITORIAL : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#editorial

· Okay, So Let's Get This Straight: On Monday, Bush Admitted That
he Lied About Leaking a Lie to Smear Someone Who Revealed the
Truth About His Lying
· Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election & Why
they'll Steal the Next One Too (Unless We Stop Them)-VIDEO!

JOURNALISM & MEDIA : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#media

· Right-Wing Radio Host Advocates Murdering Border Crossers

HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#rights

· Government Authenticates Photos From Abu Ghraib

OF INTEREST : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#interest

· Media Moguls who attended Bilderberg meeting in 2005, - If you
don't know what this is about start hitting the search engines!
· Kleptocracy - Kleptocracy is a pejorative, informal term for a
government so corrupt that no pretense of honesty remains. - In
addition, kleptocrats routinely ignore economic and social
problems in their quest to amass ever more wealth.
· Cheney Violated International Law In Failing To Report The 1991
B-52 'Lost Nuke Incident' In Iran
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Email the Oprah Winfrey today for a program to reopen 9/11!!
http://tvnewslies.org/html/9_11_truth_calling_oprah.html

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:12:32 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Fw: Mossad helped plan 911, through agents in Arab groups - Leland Lehrman of Physics 911

From: "Peter Myers" <myers@cyberone.com.au>

April 11, 2006

Mossad helped plan 911, through agents in Arab groups - Leland Lehrman of Physics 911

"As a descendant of Russian Jews, I consider it a particularly important
personal civic responsibility to expose the deception and danger of Zionism and
its terrorist agency, the Mossad ..."

- Leland Lehrman, Webmaster of Physics 911

In item 1, Leland Lehrman refers to three important articles at Physics 911.

The first of these is reproduced here as item 2. However it contains embedded
links, not made explicit here.

The second and third articles are just as important, but omitted here, to limit
the size of this bulletin.

Leland Lehrman's position, that Mossad helped plan 911, through its agents in
Arab groups, is similar to mine. Although I do not have time to study 911 in
detail, my naive position is that Arab hijackers were themselves hijacked -
probably by Mossad - and flown into the towers. - Peter M.

(1) Physics 911 Webmaster says "We do not write out Mossad"
(2) Mossad helped plan 911, through its agents in Arab groups - Leland Lehrman
of Physics 911

(1) Physics 911 Webmaster says "We do not write out Mossad"

Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:56:29 -0600 From: "Leland Lehrman"
<leland.lehrman@gmail.com>

We do not write out Mossad, in fact we finger them explicitly, check the
website:

http://physics911.net/nuclearfalseflag.htm which is my article and also read the
German Intelligence Report:

http://physics911.net/germanintel.htm and the DEA Report

http://physics911.net/deareport.htm

Please distribute this message with links intact to your readers.

Leland Lehrman Webmaster, physics911.net

(2) Mossad helped plan 911, through its agents in Arab groups - Leland Lehrman
of Physics 911

by R. Leland Lehrman 505.982.3609 - leland@33o.com Updated: July 28, 2005

{contains embedded links. Visit the webpage to follow them}

http://physics911.net/nuclearfalseflag.htm

On April 18th of 2005, I released a public advisory, reproduced below, regarding
the danger of a faked nuclear attack on America, to be staged by rogue British,
American and Israeli Mossad operatives, assisted by select criminal,
compromised, drug-addicted or mind-controlled "Muslim" patsies and designed to
support a global war against Iran and Islam. The attack would also be used to
further legitimate the building of the genocidal wall in Jerusalem and possibly
even an expansion of, rather than a pullout from, the settlements in Gaza and
the West Bank in furtherance of total Israeli dominance in the Middle East. The
attack would be aided by Israeli partisans in the United States, and
stage-managed in the Congress by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee,
and its attendant PR firms and media empires. As a descendant of Russian Jews, I
consider it a particularly important personal civic responsibility to expose the
deception and danger of Zionism and its terrorist agency, the Mossad, who will
probably furnish the patsies. The Mossad is a leading candidate for architect of
the 9/11 attacks. This suppressed German Intelligence Document reveals how
senior Israelis knew in advance about the attacks and "urgently wished that no
attempt was made to prevent the attacks." Here's a longer quote:

"It is very evident from surveillance conducted against Mossad agents in the
Federal Republic as well as interceptions of Israeli diplomatic communication
from the Federal Republic to Tel Aviv, that the Mossad has successfully
penetrated various extremist Arab groups in both the Federal Republic and the
United States.

These investigations disclosed in late May of 2001 that an attack was to be made
against certain specified targets in the American cities of Washington and New
York. But it was apparent that the Mossad was not only fully aware of these
attacks well in advance but actually, through their own agents inside these Arab
groups, assisted in the planning and the eventual execution of the attacks.

That the Israeli government was fully aware of these attacks is absolutely
certain and proven. Diplomatic traffic between the Israeli Embassy in the
Federal Republic and the Israeli Foreign Office made it very clear that Minister
President Sharon was fully aware of this pending attack and urgently wished that
no attempt was made to prevent the attacks.

Although the Israeli officials were instructed to warn the American intelligence
community that some kind of an attack might be possible, at no time were the
specific dates and targets (known at that time to Israeli officials) to be given
to the Americans.

The rationale for this attitude was expressed in a conversation on August 1,
2001, between the Israeli Military Attaché in the Federal Republic to a member
of the Israeli General Staff. There it was stated that Israel believed an attack
on the continental United States would so inflame American public opinion that
they would permit Israel to "cleanse" their state of "Arab terrorists and those
who support such terrorists". This "cleansing" was explained as the expulsion of
all Arabs, and even Christian groups, from the Palestine area."

The physics911.net website has additional supporting evidence for Mossad
involvement in 9/11 in its background information section. Although the Mossad
has been caught perpetrating fake terrorist operations, most people still don't
know about it. It is often asserted that Israel and Zionism are in fact
themselves patsies of the Anglo-American establishment, but given the fact that
Talmudic Zionists like the Rothschilds have controlled international central
banking and freemasonry for centuries, I am not convinced of that hypothesis,
though I include it here for balance. Interestingly, at the very core of secret
Freemasonry doctrine is what is known as British Israelism, an assertion that
the British are in fact a lost tribe of Israel and that as such Britain is
included in the proverbial covenant of the Chosen People. Who is at the top of
the Pyramid? Why, Lucifer himself of course, whether you acknowledge it
metaphorically or literally. All "identifiable groups" are expendable within the
divide and conquer methodology.

Since the US Army War College already acknowledges that the Mossad "has
capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act," it
may well be that the FBI has finally realized how dangerous the Israeli Fifth
Column is, having begun to tighten the noose around the legendary Israeli spying
operation in America by arresting Larry Franklin, Doug Feith's deputy in the
Office of Special Plans, origin of the fraudulent Iraqi weapons of mass
destruction intelligence. Not yet indicted, but identified as Co-Conspirator 1
and 2 along with Franklin are the two top AIPAC operatives to whom he passed
higly classified intel: Steven Rosen, head of Policy and Keith Weissman, Iran
specialist. Israeli sources expect Weissman and Rosen to be indicted for
espionage in the coming weeks.

Once I thought that perhaps two of the largest factions of the New World Order,
Skull and Bones and the Zionists are now in open warfare, as the Bush
Administration attempts to clean out the neoconservatives, discipline the
Israeli military and enforce the two state solution. But it doesn't look like it
now.

Predictably, the word in pro-Zionist circles is that the FBI investigation by
Counter Intelligence Chief David Szady into the Larry Franklin affair is
anti-semitic and driven by a CIA old guard. Some "Russian" security sources
which cannot be confirmed provide tantalizing intelligence suggesting the same
thing, and repeat the meme of a nuclear terrorist attack in the USA, staged by
the Zionist/Skull and Bones hierarchy and including their neoconservative covert
agents.

Victor Ostrovsky, Mossad defector, has indicated that George Bush Senior may
have been targeted by Mossad for assassination due to his attempt at enforcing a
two state solution through cancellation of American loan guarantees to Israel
during a "peace process" he started. George W. Bush continues at least the
appearance of peace talks as related in The Jewish Press: "Bush made his
position clear: Israel's settlement expansion in the West Bank must stop. "I
told the prime minister of my concern that Israel not undertake any activity
that contravenes "road map" obligations or prejudices final-status
negotiations," Bush said, referring to the "road map" peace plan his
administration launched three years ago. "Therefore, Israel should remove
unauthorized outposts and meet its road map obligations regarding settlements in
the West Bank." Of course, staging a fight is an easy thing to do when you are a
professional deceiver, which description suits both Zionists and Bonesmen quite
well. After all, the source for Ostrovsky's allegation was most probably former
head of Mossad Ephraim Halevy, now national security advisor to Ariel Sharon and
the author of a recent call to perpetual world war with Islam. Halevy's other
famous warning was that "should one of the more severe scenarios come to pass,
the United States will have no choice but to deepen its presence in the Middle
East. To that end, it will have to renew the draft, to ensure that there are
enough forces to deal with developing situations in countries like Saudi
Arabia."

The AIPAC affair is only the tip of a giant iceberg that goes back even beyond
the Balfour Declaration and the role of Zionists in precipitating America's
involvement in World War I. It is now generally acknowledged that Lord Balfour's
letter to Lord Rothschild - allowing for the establishment of a Jewish homeland
in Palestine - led to a massive shift in allegiance by international elitist
Zionists from the Axis to the Allies. The British, under "Lawrence of Arabia"
managed to convince the Arabs to fight with them against the Turkish Ottoman
Empire, which allied with Germany. However, the Palestinians were betrayed to
the Zionists and the "United Nations" after Britain's attempts at keeping the
peace were destroyed by Israeli terrorists such as eventual Prime Minister,
Menachem Begin. The Balfour Declaration also led to the massive pressure applied
by American Zionists like Louis Brandeis and Bernard Baruch, head of the War
Industries Board, on President Woodrow Wilson to enter the war and to create a
one world government [League of Nations] as prophesied by David Ben Gurion in
Look Magazine, 1962. Indeed, Benjamin Freedman, a high-level Jewish defector
from Zionism who was part of the Wilson administration stated openly that
International Zionists guaranteed American assistance to the Allies in World War
I in return for the Balfour Declaration. The thesis certainly fits the facts.
Here is Freedman's statement: "They [the Zionists] told England: 'We will
guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with
you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war.' In
other words, they made this deal: 'We will get the United States into this war
as your ally. The price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war
and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.'" Freedman goes on to state
that even Zionist leaders such as Nahum Sokolow acknowledged that "the feeling
against the Jews in Germany is due to the fact that they realized that this
great defeat (WWI) was brought about by our (Zionist) intercession and bringing
the United States into the war against them." Freedman also acknowledges the
British use of Zionism in furtherance of its own aims.

Peering back into history with Freedman, we watch as Freedman paints a vivid
scene: "I was 'confidential man' to Henry Morgenthau, Sr., who was chairman of
the Finance Committee, and I was liaison between him and Rollo Wells, the
treasurer. So I sat in these meetings with President Wilson at the head of the
table, and all the others, and I heard them drum into President Wilson's brain
the graduated income tax and what has become the Federal Reserve, and also
indoctrinate him with the Zionist movement. Justice Brandeis and President
Wilson were just as close as the two fingers on this hand, and President Woodrow
Wilson was just as incompetent when it came to determining what was going on as
a newborn baby. And that's how they got us into World War I, while we all
slept."

This background is necessary because those without a grasp of it will be less
able to understand and assimilate what I must now relate, which is that the plan
to take American into a war with Iran, which is supposed to be a global war with
Islam to precede one world dictatorship, continues apace with increasing
warnings from the military, the press and the research community regarding a
nuclear or other major attack on America, perhaps as soon as this August.

Fortunately, due to the heroic efforts of the alternative media, the London
bombings have now been exposed as another terrorist exercise gone live by
executive New World Order. We have now seen two terrorist attacks masked by what
are called drills: 9/11 and 7/7. When is the next terrorist attack drill slated
for the USA?

This August.

What type of attack does the drill "simulate."

A nuclear attack.

According to Dr. Stephen Sniegoski, writing for the excellent website War
Without End, and elsewhere on the internet, "Richard Perle was the big hit of
this May's AIPAC conference in Washington with his call for an attack on Iran.
The danger of Iran was featured in an AIPAC multimedia show, "Iran's Path to the
Bomb." As the Washington Post's Dana Milbank described the multimedia show: "The
exhibit, worthy of a theme park, begins with a narrator condemning the
International Atomic Energy Agency for being 'unwilling to conclude that Iran is
developing nuclear weapons' (it had similar reservations about Iraq) and the
Security Council because it 'has yet to take up the issue.' In a succession of
rooms, visitors see flashing lights and hear rumbling sounds as Dr. Seuss-like
contraptions make yellowcake uranium, reprocess plutonium, and pop out nuclear
warheads like so many gallons of hummus for an AIPAC conference."

Worse still, former CIA/DIA agent Philip Giraldi exposes current US nuclear
preparations for a response to another 9/11 type attack:

"Philip Giraldi, Deep Background

The American Conservative August 1, 2005 p. 27

In Washington it is hardly a secret that the same people in and around the
administration who brought you Iraq are preparing to do the same for Iran. The
Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney's office,
has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a
contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist
attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran
employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are
more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected
nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or
are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence
the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on
Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United
States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are
reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing-that Iran is
being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack-but no one is prepared to damage
his career by posing any objections."

It is certainly gratifying to see that American Conservatives like the magazine
doing the above reporting are as aware of the current administration's dangerous
tendencies as American Liberals. But will Americans from all political
persuasions join together soon enough to thwart the danger?

It's up to you.

Writing in the Washington Post, William Arkin echoes the military nuclear theme
with an in depth expose of America's Strategic Command and its new nuclear
directive:

"A confluence of events, beginning with the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and the
president's forthright commitment to the idea of preemptive action to prevent
future attacks, has set in motion a process that has led to a fundamental change
in how the U.S. military might respond to certain possible threats.
Understanding how we got to this point, and what it might mean for U.S. policy,
is particularly important now -- with the renewed focus last week on Iran's
nuclear intentions and on speculation that North Korea is ready to conduct its
first test of a nuclear weapon.

Global strike has become one of the core missions for the Omaha-based Strategic
Command, or Stratcom. Once, Stratcom oversaw only the nation's nuclear forces;
now it has responsibility for overseeing a global strike plan with both
conventional and nuclear options. President Bush spelled out the definition of
"full-spectrum" global strike in a January 2003 classified directive, describing
it as "a capability to deliver rapid, extended range, precision kinetic (nuclear
and conventional) and non-kinetic (elements of space and information operations)
effects in support of theater and national objectives."

This blurring of the nuclear/conventional line, wittingly or unwittingly, could
heighten the risk that the nuclear option will be used. Exhibit A may be the
Stratcom contingency plan for dealing with "imminent" threats from countries
such as North Korea or Iran, formally known as CONPLAN 8022-02."

The Financial Times reports on covert operations against Iran in this
illuminating piece:

"Books Add to Rightwing Campaign to Demonise Iran

Published: July 8 2005

Two new books in the US - Countdown to Terror and Countdown to Crisis - accuse
an incompetent Central Intelligence Agency of failing to recognise the
potentially catastrophic threat posed by Iran through what it alleges are close
ties between Iran and the fugitive Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda.

Serialised in the conservative media and popularised on talk-shows, the books
have arrived in the midst of a rightwing campaign to demonise Iran - and expose
the CIA - at the same time as the Bush administration is exploring ways of
funding and backing Iranian opposition groups.

In Countdown to Terror, Curt Weldon, a Pennsylvania republican congressman and
vice-chairman of the House armed services committee, charges that Iran will
carry out the next terror strike on the US, has a bomb that can kill more than
100,000 people, and is giving refuge to Mr bin Laden.

Mr Weldon's information comes from "Ali", said to be a former senior official
during the Shah of Iran's rule, whom he first met in Paris in April, last year.

Mr Weldon says he was driven to write his book after the CIA dismissed Ali as a
fraud even though, Mr Weldon claims, many of his predictions came true.

Mr Weldon's secondary target is George Tenet, the former CIA boss, and what he
calls the old intelligence community elite. Mr Weldon accuses this elite of
waging a propaganda war against George W. Bush in the run-up to the 2004
presidential election.

Mr Weldon strongly defends his old friend Porter Goss, who replaced Mr Tenet
last year, and his efforts to purge the agency. He concludes that the US would
be justified in launching a pre-emptive war against Iran. But since this is not
feasible, Mr Weldon argues that the US should give financial support to Iranian
groups preparing for regime change.

The ferocity of Mr Weldon's accusations have driven Bill Murray, the former CIA
station chief in Paris, to go public with his side of the story - that Ali was a
fraudster well known to the agency. The CIA has responded by declassifying a
letter to Mr Weldon, in which it says Ali was a fabricator who embellished press
reports. "He has provided no information to date worthy of follow-up," it said,
adding that it spent hundreds of man hours evaluating his claims.

Mr Murray told the Financial Times that he had informed Mr Weldon that Ali was a
known fabricator who wanted money. He said Ali was "totally dependent" on
Manouchehr Ghorbanifar, an Iranian arms dealer discredited by the CIA for his
role in the Iran-Contra scandal of the 1980s.

James Woolsey, a friend of Mr Weldon and former CIA director, praises the book
as "a case study of an intelligence failure in the process of happening, with
potentially catastrophic consequences for the United States." Mr Goss has not
commented on it in public.

The CIA has not commented either on Countdown To Crisis: the Coming Nuclear
Showdown With Iran, by Kenneth Timmerman, a journalist and author with close
ties to exiled Iranian opposition groups. A CIA spokesman said the agency was
too busy to read it.

Mr Timmerman, quoting alleged high-level defectors from Iranian intelligence
organisations, says Iran plotted the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US
together with al-Qaeda, and is also protecting Mr bin Laden.

"Because of the arrogance and wilful blindness of our nation's top intelligence
officers, America's leaders were misled about the threat from Iran until it was
too late."

The problem for us in the above story is that not only is Ghorbanifar a known
liar, but he was the conduit between Israel, the US and Iran during the
Iran-Contra affair, and is very close with Michael Ledeen, spearhead of the Nuke
Iran gang as you will see below. His collaboration with Italian Intelligence, or
SISMI links him to the Propaganda Due [P2] operation in Italy which has
terrorized Europe for decades and is now collaborating with Ledeen and Co.
again:

"In the 1980s, a number of books and articles fingered Michael Ledeen as a
member of Italy's fascist P2 "lodge," a pseudo-Masonic power group founded by
former blackshirt and SS liaison officer Licio Gelli. Gelli's fascist cabal
infiltrated, and largely controlled, SISMI. According to reports published in
the 1980s, Gelli had created an organization within the organization, jocularly
labeled "Super SISMI."

But it wasn't just books and articles that fingered Ledeen, in fact, "Ledeen is
identified in the [Italian] court documents as an agent of SISMI," and even the
Tower Commission set up to investigate the Iran-Contra affair "concluded that
the CIA should permanently terminate its relationship with Ledeen and his
associate, Ghorbanifar."

"His attachment to Israel, reflected in his JINSA connection, may have
influenced his pursuit of the hostage deal with Iran (Israel favored such a
transaction), and his former boss in the Pentagon, Noel Koch, asserts that while
Ledeen was in Italy the CIA station chief there took him to be "an agent of
influence of a foreign government."

You see, Ledeen is a self-professed "Universal Fascist," the title of one of his
books:

"Ledeen, as he wrote in his book Machiavelli on Modern Leadership: Why
Machiavelli's Iron Rules Are As Timely and Important Today as Five Centuries Ago
(New York: St. Martin's Press, 2000), is a believer in "total war" through
"creative violence." There is no such thing as peace between nations, he
maintains; peace is just an interlude between wars.

Ledeen fits the profile of a "Synarchist," or "Nazi/Communist," as those
concepts were discussed in World War II-era documents made available to EIR by
military intelligence and other sources during the 1980s (see Jeffrey Steinberg,
"Synarchism: The Fascist Roots of the Wolfowitz Cabal," EIR, May 30, 2003).
Particularly relevant to this characterization is Ledeen's work with both "Red"
and "Black" terrorists in Italy, and his support, along with Henry Kissinger, of
the Propaganda Due (P-2) Freemasonic Lodge of former Nazi collaborator Licio
Gelli, which directed the NATO-related "strategy of tension" [and eventual
assassination] against former Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro..."

An...important mentor to Ledeen was Renzo de Felice, an advocate of the Jacobin
Revolution in France which led to the emergence of the first modern Fascist,
Napoleon Bonaparte. De Felice did not hide his Fascism, as he wrote in The
Illuminati and Revolutionary Mysticism, 1789-1900: "There is something in common
between my Jacobins and a certain kind of Fascism.... Fascism wanted to achieve
the transformation of society and the individual ... [toward] a new phase in the
history of civilization."

After researching in Italy from 1966 to 1967, where he met scions of the
Venetian oligarchy who are "magicians" in cultural warfare, Ledeen wrote:
Universal Fascism (1972); "Italian Fascism and Youth," Journal of Contemporary
History, July 1969; "Fascist Social Policy," in The Use and Abuse of Social
Science, ed, Irving Louis Horowitz; and, among others, Fascism, An Informal
Introduction to Its Theory and Practice, by Renzo de Felice, which includes an
interview with Ledeen.

Ledeen preferred unbridled, Jacobin-style fascism, such as that of Gabrielle
D'Annunzio in the early 1900s. In his 1972 Universal Fascism, Ledeen criticized
Benito Mussolini as being too rigid: "He never had enough confidence in the
Italian people to permit them a genuine participation in Fascism."

Are you getting the picture? If this guy is saying there will be a nuclear
attack on America, we'd better take it seriously. He's hooked up with the
blackest of international criminals.

No expose would be complete without a word from the inestimably patriotic Major
Scott Ritter, former UN weapons inspector and war-protester. His recent warning
that war plans against Iran had been set for June was followed up by this piece
on the media's silence and then this excellent piece on the current covert
operations already taking place in preparation for a full-scale attack.

But an Iran war would never fly with the American public, already tired of Iraq
and the "War on Terror." Or would it? Maybe, just maybe, with the right sort of
provocation... And that's where the latest news from Northcom, or the US
Northern Command gets nervewracking. They are planning a nuclear terrorism drill
for August of this year. Two weeks away. As I noted before, we have now seen two
devastating instances of drills used as covers for real terrorism. Is this going
to be the third strike, and we're out? Read carefully:

"Exercise to focus on nuclear terror scenario Posted Jun 29, 2005 at 1:00:PM MDT

FORT MONROE, Va. -- Here's the scenario.A seafaring vessel transporting a
10-kiloton nuclear warhead makes its way into a port off the coast of
Charleston, S.C. Terrorists aboard the ship attempt to smuggle the warhead off
the ship to detonate it. Is this really a possibility?

Joint Task Force Civil Support (JTF-CS) here is planning its next exercise on
the premise that this crisis is indeed plausible.

Sudden Response 05 will take place this August on Fort Monroe and will be
carried out as an internal command post exercise. The exercise is intended to
train the JTF-CS staff to plan and execute Consequence Management operations in
support of Federal Emergency Management Agency Region IV's response to a nuclear
detonation.

Some of this year's objectives for SR05 are to refine nuclear incident Concept
of Operations, produce a CM Operation Order, refine command post set-up
procedures and maintain situational awareness of multiple CM incidents.

The Sudden Response exercise has been held at Quantico, Va., in the past, but
has been moved to Fort Monroe to maximize command post training time. The senior
leadership felt that it was more important to accomplish training instead of
losing up to a day and a half in travel time, said Paul Deflueri, J7 Lead
Exercise Planner. "This will allow us to still meet our training objectives," he
said.

Some external participants may work with JTF-CS during the exercise.

"We're trying to get representatives from FEMA Region IV as well as
representatives from South Carolina Emergency Management Division and active
duty soldiers from the (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear and
Explosive) Consequence Management Response Force to play the role of task force
units," Defluri said.

"Each time we do one of these internal exercises, we try to make it more robust
and try to add in fidelity," Defluri said. "That's what we're trying to do for
SR05: create a good scenario and be able to replicate the effects as best we
can. That way we can give the command a really good CM exercise."

Notice the role of FEMA, who were also scheduled to be in New York around 9/11,
by eerie coincidence, part of a terrorism drill called "Tripod II."

These drills are in fact common practise at Northcom, and now include drills for
nuclear detonation, major hurricane and nuclear accident all at the same time.
Here's another interesting drill, involving an international force off the coast
of the US.

A personal connection was hammered home to me when one of my fellow travelers in
the Peace and Justice Community alerted me to the following:

"A friend came by today. His relative is fairly high-level in regional
counter-terrorism. My friend says his relative told him they are preparing for
the strong possibility that there will be 7 U.S. cities attacked with small,
backpack-held nuclear devices by 'al-Qaida types.' It sounds like the propaganda
-- the cover stories for PNAC or whomever these bad guys are -- has begun."

This does not sound good.

Finally, one of a few other internet authors to posit a similar theory, an
individual known only by his handle, "Skunk" or "Son of Liberty," created this
speculative website regarding a nuclear false flag attack on America. It
provides some compelling ideas worthy of attention. Ignore it at your peril.

And now, read on regarding the original motivations for this public warning, and
take heed. Please contact me with any corroborating evidence, or for any helpful
and loving reason.

April 18th, 2005 - Public Advisory

New information and threats, including this commercial video (available from the
Iran Freedom Foundation home page) and other neoconservative rants regarding an
"Iranian" nuclear threat have prompted an essential update to this piece
regarding the extensive record of recently arrested Israeli, not Iranian
operatives, often around nuclear facilities in America.

This campaign designed to prepare the American people to blame Iran for a
possible upcoming nuclear terrorist attack fits the description of a Mossad
false flag operation, especially because of Israel's numerous, even flagrant
recent violations of American nuclear security.

Israel's long record of using terrorism and especially "false flag" terrorism -
covert military operations designed to pin blame on an enemy - is extensive and
well documented, beginning with the bombing of the Hotel King David by Menachem
Begin's Irgun fighters, through the Lavon Affair and recently includes the bust
up of a phony al Qaeda cell that was in reality manufactured by the Mossad.

For those still under the illusion that Israel has always been a US ally, please
note the USS Liberty Incident , wherein Israeli fighter planes and torpedo boats
nearly sunk an unarmed US intelligence vessel in international waters, and also
the US Army War College's assesment of the Mossad: "Wildcard. Ruthless and
cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a
Palestinian/Arab act." - Washington Times . Even the US army acknowledges that
Israel can and does engineer "false flag" attacks.

Here's why they say history repeats itself. America, doesn't this sound a bit
too familiar: "As during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, the neocons have
embarked on another inane search for monarchic exile groups to prop up as future
leaders of a "free and democratic" Iran. This effort, according to the Financial
Times, is led by a gruesome twosome -- Iran-Contra scumlord, Michael Ledeen, and
Swift Boat washup, Jerome Corsi -- along with AIPAC and a laundry list of
wingers in congress." - Max Blumenthal

"A prominent backer of the Alliance [for "Democracy" in Iran - forerunner to the
Iran Freedom Foundation] is Jerome Corsi, well known for his role in the Swift
Boat Veterans and POWs for Truth campaign against John Kerry, the Democratic
presidential candidate... The Alliance says it is in partnership with the
rightwing Hudson Institute. Alliance members are also inspired by Michael Ledeen
of the American Enterprise Institute, an influential neoconservative policy
group, who is a veteran campaigner for regime change. " - Financial Times

The Hudson Institute, the ultraconservative, organic food bashing home of neocon
all star Meyrav Wurmser, co- author of the famous Project for a New Pearl
Harbor, I mean Project for a New American Century document, Rebuilding America's
Defenses provides insitutional cover for this poorly disguised covert
intelligence operation. Hudson Institute features the Bilderberger criminal,
"Lord" Conrad Black as one of its trustees. Here's what New World Order
genius-in-chief Henry Kissinger has to say about the Hudson Institute:

"Hudson Institute is today one of America's foremost policy research centers, in
the forefront of study and debate on important domestic and international policy
issues, known and respected around the globe, a leader in innovative thinking
and creative solutions to the challenges of the present and the future." - Henry
A. Kissinger

This recent propaganda effort streaming through wild-eyed right-wing rags like
World Net Daily is well-organized and may perhaps indicate that the
"provocation" designed to legitimate the planned war with Iran, is about to
occur. Neocon bullhorn World Net Daily blares: "NUCLEAR WAR-FEAR: Iran nuke
commercial hits TV markets. Spot depicting atomic terror attack in NYC to be
seen in 20 cities."

Citizens can afford to waste no time informing the President, the Pentagon,
Congress, State Officials, FBI Counter Intelligence and the press that we are
aware of the intent of this propaganda campaign and are not fooled. Recent
Israeli and US efforts to publicly distance themselves from war plans for Iran
may be part of a campaign to appear peaceful, such that a terrorist attack
falsely blamed on Iran with the full force of the international media will look
all the more brutal and undeserved.

We have seen these types of "terrorist attacks" both real and imagined used to
legitimate foreign military adventures that are deceptively sold to an unwitting
public as if they were in our "National Interest," or "Promote Democracy." No,
no, as Major General Smedley Butler put it in 1935: War is a Racket.When was the
last time this Administration warned us about mushroom clouds over US cities?
Where are those weapons of mass destruction today?

Read on for the details of the Israeli agents arrested near US nuclear
facilities or in other suspicious circumstances. All instances documented in
mainstream press. External articles rendered in Arial Font.

Israeli nationals, recently arrested all around the country, may be part of a
possible false flag attack on the United States, perhaps even involving nuclear
weapons or an attack on nuclear facilities. These attacks may be designed to
frame Muslim nations in order to legitimate resource and world domination wars.

Look at the below published news reports and documents.

1. King's Bay Naval Nuclear Facility

The most recent incident was at King's Bay Naval Nuclear Facility. The news
reports in that case describe the fact that the dogs were alerted to the scent
of explosives and that there was a remote control robot in a suitcase in the
van.

Here's one article:

Movers Who Prompt Kings Bay Lockdown To Be Deported POSTED: 1:44 pm EDT May 25,
2004 http://www.news4jax.com/news4georgia/3344771/detail.html

ST. MARYS, Ga. -- Two Israeli men working for a moving-and-storage company who
attempted to enter Kings Bay Submarine Base Friday are being held for
deportation.

The two entered the Franklin gate about 10:30 a.m. Friday to pick up some items
in base housing, base spokesman Ed Buczek said.

Neither was able to present valid work permits to security personnel, and one
had an expired passport. Base personnel and bomb-sniffing dogs inspected the
van, prompting a lockdown of the base.

St. Marys police closed access to an area one-half mile surrounding the base and
called in a bomb squad, Buczek said.

"The military dogs were alerted to a scent in the cab of the truck," Buczek
said. "Guards closed access to the base and notified the Georgia Bureau of
Investigation, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Naval Criminal
Investigative Service."

Nothing was found in the van, but both men, Tamir D. Sason, 24 and Daniel Levy,
23, both of Metar, Israel, were turned over to federal immigration officers as
undocumented aliens. They are being held for deportation.

Here's another:

Security scare shuts Kings Bay
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/052204/geo_15672724.shtml Bomb
suspected after an Israeli was unable to give credentials for entry. by LIZ
HAMPTON Times-Union correspondent

ST. MARYS, Ga. -- Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base was locked down for security
reasons Friday after two Israelis were detained for questioning.

Base spokesman Ed Buczek said two Israeli men attempted to enter the base about
10:30 a.m. They were hired by a moving-and-storage company to pick up some
household goods in base housing, he said....

St. Marys police closed access to an area one-half mile out surrounding the
base, and a bomb squad was called in, Buczek said. A briefcase was removed from
the vehicle with a remote control robot, but nothing was found in it.

Daniel Hopsicker provides additional details here and and here.

Additional investigative reporting here at libertypost.org. An excerpt:

"Thankfully there was one subject on which the Navy spokesman was prepared to
wax eloquent... The bomb-sniffing guard dogs at the base were filled with the
right stuff, and possessed a high level of skill & accuracy.

"The military dogs were alerted to a scent in the cab of the truck," a base
spokesman had stated. "Guards immediately closed access to the base."

"Do they often test false positives?" we inquired.

Not at all. "The idea that they would pick up a false positive is highly
unlikely," sniffed the base spokesman."

The American Free Press actually contacted the Department of Homeland Security.
Here's what they found out:

"Marc Raimondi, spokesman at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in
Washington, told AFP that both Sason and Levy will be deported. Raimondi said
ICE had taken custody of the two individuals and checked them out through
immigration and known criminal databases. Their only offense, Raimondi said, was
that they had worked illegally on visitor visas.

"Perhaps the conspiracy theory has merit," Raimondi said when asked why Israeli
agents involved in criminal activities were being deported on visa violations.
Raimondi was unable to answer when asked if DHS was concerned about the network
of Israeli-owned moving companies in the United States, some with proven ties to
Israeli intelligence.

He said the agency welcomes any information that could be helpful."

2. Nuclear Fuel Services Plant, Erwin, Tennessee

Prior to the King's Bay incident, Israeli "movers" including the son of the
Likud Party spokesperson Shmuel Dahan were busted in Tennessee near the Nuclear
Fuel Services plant in Erwin.

Here is the AP report:

Two men arrested after high-speed chase in Tennessee

The Associated Press

ERWIN, Tenn. (AP) - Two Israeli men who led the Unicoi County sheriff on a
high-speed chase in a rented moving truck were placed under arrest and are being
investigated by the FBI, local officials said.

SHMUEL DAHAN and Almaliach Naor, both from Israel, were being held without bond
Sunday afternoon at the Unicoi County Jail. The truck, rented from a Ryder
office in Mars Hills, N.C., was being held in the county garage pending an FBI
investigation, officials said.

Dahan is charged with reckless driving, littering, false identification and
evading arrest, while Naor faces charges of false identification and evading
arrest, an officer with the Unicoi County Sheriff's Department who would not
give his name said Sunday.

An investigation by the FBI is ongoing and more charges are possible, he said. A
woman who answered the phone at the FBI's Knoxville office said there was no one
available to answer questions about the arrest.

The incident began late Saturday afternoon when Sheriff Kent Harris noticed a
rental truck traveling at a high speed along former U.S. Highway 23, a
lightly-traveled highway near the North Carolina state line.

"I was really concerned because the driver would not stop after I flashed my
headlights for nearly three miles," Harris said. "He was weaving back and forth
and I was wondering what a large (rental truck) was doing on the two-lane
highway late Saturday afternoon instead of the faster I-26 Interstate."

Harris said he saw the men throw something from the truck while they were being
pursued. Officers scouring the area later found a vial containing an unknown
substance along the roadway, he said.

Once the men were apprehended, officers also found a "Learn to Fly" brochure in
the truck, leading Harris and others to express concern about security at the
Nuclear Fuel Services plant in Erwin.

"I GOT A SICK FEELING WHEN I SAW IT," Harris said.

Dahan also gave authorities a fake Florida driver's license issues in
Plantation, Fla., he said, while Naor produced a fake identification card.

Harris subsequently contacted the FBI, the federal Bureau of Tobacco and
Firearms and other local authorities to look into the situation.

"We're not overreacting," Harris said. "We have a responsibility to protect the
citizens of Unicoi County and that's what I'm going to do at any cost. I'd
rather overreact, if that's what you call it, than be sorry later."

More details on that investigation, with notes on other incidents involving
Israeli "movers" can again be found at Daniel Hopsicker's website:

"...the 'learn to fly in Florida' business card is that of Nissan Giat, also an
Israeli military veteran, he said, as well as a free-lance flight instructor in
the Miami area, working out of the Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport."

3. Plymouth, Pennsylvania with a video of the Sears Tower:

2 found with video of Sears Tower

MICHELLE MOWAD, Special to The Mercury October 17, 2001 PLYMOUTH (PA) -- Two men
whom police described as Middle Eastern were detained in the township by federal
immigration authorities after being found with detailed video footage of the
Sears Tower in Chicago.

Plymouth Police encountered the men after an officer responded to Pizzeria Uno
on West Ridge Pike at 2:40 p.m. Thursday for a report of illegal dumping.

A manager there advised the police officer that a tractor-trailer was observed
backed up to the dumpster at the rear of the restaurant. The manager noticed a
freshly dumped pile of furniture adjacent to the Dumpster, according to police.
The manager confronted the vehicle's operator, a Middle Eastern man, police
said.

The man, who later identified himself as Moshe Elmakias, 30, denied that he did
anything and fled the scene, heading west on West Ridge Pike... The manager was
able to provide township police with the Florida registration number of the
tractor-trailer and said that a sign posted on the side of the vehicle read
"Moving Systems Incorporated" police said.

The area was searched by township police, and the vehicle was spotted parked on
the curb in front of John Kennedy Ford on Ridge Pike. An officer proceeded to
make contact with the occupants of the truck by knocking on the cab, according
to reports.

A Middle Eastern man, later identified as Ron Katar, 23, exited the sleeper area
of the cab and said that the operator was across the street as he pointed toward
the Don Rosen Porsche dealer, reports said.

Elmakias and a white female, Ayelet Reisler, 23, were approaching the vehicle
from the dealership, but the female then began walking in a different direction,
acting as if she were not with Elmakias, according to reports. Reisler was
detained and checked for identification. She had a German passport in her name
and medication in a different name, police said. Plymouth Police Sgt. Thomas
Longo was notified and responded to the incident.

Elmakias allegedly admitted to being behind Pizzeria Uno, although he said that
he did not dump furniture, he was only turning around. Elmakias said that his
destination was New York and that he was also coming from New York. He said he
was in Plymouth because he was supposed to make a pickup in the morning and
pointed toward the Storage USA facility on Belvoir Road , police said. Elmakias
could not, however, provide a name or telephone number of the customer.

Township police dispatched a request for a Motor Carrier Program Inspector.
Officer Gerald Schwartz of the Whitpain Police Department responded. Schwartz
discovered through his investigation that the operator's log had been falsified
and put the truck out of service due to violations. Inspection of the
tractor-trailer's contents revealed a load three-quarters full containing
household items, including furniture and boxes. Among the items in the truck was
a Sony video camera. Plymouth Police Officer David McCann reviewed the tape
found inside the camera. The tape had video footage of Chicago with zoomed-in
shots of the Sears Tower, according to police.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation was notified of the incident and all three
subjects were transported to the Plymouth Police station. FBI Agents James
Sweeney and Richard Tofani arrived at the station and proceeded to investigate
both the subjects and their belongings with the assistance of Immigration and
Naturalization Services. All evidence collected by Plymouth and Whitpain
officers was transferred to federal facilities. Special Agent Linda Vizi, a
spokeswoman for the Philadelphia FBI, could not be contacted for comment on
further investigations. Mirror: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/sears2.html

4. Whidbey Island Naval Station
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=49488

On May 7th, 2002, two Israeli "movers" were arrested for speeding after midnight
near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station and Oak Harbor, Washington. The
Jerusalem Post gives the cover story:

FBI clears Israelis suspected of carrying explosives

Jerusalem Post; 5/15/2002; MELISSA RADLER

Wednesday, May 15, 2002 -- NEW YORK - The two Israelis arrested last week in
Washington State on charges of having traces of explosives in their rental truck
were cleared by the Federal Bureau of Investigation yesterday. The FBI said
further tests found no trace of explosives.

Officials attributed the false positive to the presence of diesel fuel, which
was used to fill up the van.

News of the incident spread like wildfire on Fox News and TV stations in Israel.

The Israelis' saga began on May 8 when they were pulled over in Oak Harbor,
Washington, and a trace amount of TNT and the plastic explosive RDX was
apparently found on the gear shift and steering wheel of their vehicle and on
one of the Israeli's clothes, Fox News reported yesterday.

According to an FBI spokesman in Seattle, Ray Lauer, local police who pulled the
Israelis over for speeding became suspicious after one of the men was found to
be in possession of an altered passport, and the other was unable to produce any
identification other than an Israeli driver's license. Suspicions were
heightened since the Israelis were close to Whidbey Island Naval Station, and
the driver insisted they were moving furniture - a claim that did not seem to
mesh with the late hour.

Military personnel who were called in from Whidbey Island to conduct tests on
the vehicle dispatched sniffer dogs and ionizers that indicated the presence of
explosives in the car. The men denied any connection to explosive material and
were hauled off to INS custody for violating immigration laws.

"They did not have explosives on them," Lauer said. "The tests that they
conducted appear to be false positives."

The Israelis are currently being held in INS custody on immigration violations,
including entering the country illegally and working without proper
documentation, according to Garrison Courtney, a spokesman in Seattle's INS
office.

"The two gentlemen that were stopped were held on immigration violations. They
are in the custody of the INS. We are only charging them with immigration
violations," Courtney said.

Since September 11, dozens of Israelis have been detained by the INS and
deported to Israel for violating a variety of immigration laws, including
overstaying their visa and working without a permit.

The Israeli consulate in San Francisco, which has jurisdiction over Washington
State, did not return calls seeking comment.

The Palestine Chronicle gives the detail:

"...The report by Carl Cameron goes into detail about the event and the facts as
they unfolded after the stop by the local Oak Harbor Police Department.

The report states that the police stopped a Budget Rental truck for speeding
after midnight just outside the entrance to the NAS facility and close enough
that the military left the base and participated in the investigation on a
public Oak Harbor street and that Naval Intelligence is involved in the
subsequent investigation. The question that comes to mind is just why and under
what authority, would the MP's leave a military facility to assist the local
police in a routine stop for speeding on a city street? Why? Why would Naval
Intelligence get involved in the investigation, given the wording of the final
report as it was provided to me this afternoon, by those close to the
investigation? If there was nothing to be made of any of it, why are they
interested?

According to the report of Carl Cameron and confirmed to me by investigating
authorities, a bomb-sniffing dog was called to the scene. For a speeding
violation? Now here comes the sketchy parts.

The dog did - as reported by several sources - detect the presence of explosives
in the cab of the truck and on one of the men. At that point High-Tech detection
equipment was brought in and it was determined that traces of TNT and RDX
(plastic explosives) were found. What aroused the suspicions to bring in a
bomb-sniffing dog in the first place? Just because a truck was speeding? It
confirmed the presence of explosives as did the high-tech stuff. The 'official'
spin that I got today from those involved with the investigation was that the
dog did not react at all to anything. There was nothing and a completely benign
reaction. It was confirmed that the high-tech equipment was used, but no mention
of those results were offered.

Upon further questioning it was then stated that the dog did in fact have a
reaction, but that the investigators (those reportedly involved were all of the
intelligence branches/authorities - FBI, ATF, Naval Intelligence, Counter
Terrorism and some unidentified participants) did a 'swab' test of the suspected
contaminated areas and it was determined that the traces of explosives were just
residue of diesel fuel. Boy, that is a stretch. First the dog had a reaction,
then it didn't, then it did, but what it detected was plain old diesel fuel oil.
If that were the case, the dog would have had a reaction just passing by the
vehicles fuel tank which was full of diesel. This particular dog would be of no
value as a sniffing detector if it would react to the presence of diesel fuel.
Almost all of the vehicles it would be required to respond to are diesel powered
type vehicles. IT would react positively every time it scented diesel. Then it
was explained to me that the composition of TNT is similar and easily confused
with diesel fuel.

Here's the rub. Just the fact that TNT and RDX were mentioned as being present
is extremely worrisome. These two compounds together are used strictly in
military explosive configurations. Projectile boosters, landmines and 'special'
clandestine type explosive arrangements. Why was a dog brought to the scene? Why
such a determined effort to determine the presence of explosives and who made
the TNT/RDX connection, that it was present and did they all ready suspect, or
even know that these explosives and these two detainees had these type
explosives and they were being pursued? Who concocted the story? There is
absolutely no other way to spin the events, they must have happened and they are
now trying to cover tracks, or public awareness for some unknown reason.

It was easy to dismiss the reaction of the dog, it can't argue back. But their
explanation that the dog confused military explosives with diesel fuel is
absurd. What gave them away is that the way to test for the presence of TNT/RDX
is through swabbing, or a gauze wipe test with acetone. It will determine the
presence of this extremely powerful explosive compound, but cannot determine
whether diesel fuel is present. Why was the dog brought in and then backed up
with high-tech detection equipment and then gauze wipe tests performed if it was
just diesel fuel? Why was the military off base in the middle of a routine
speeding stop, already being handled by the Oak Harbor Police and who called
them, they certainly didn't? Why was the truck speeding away from the Naval Air
Station and why was Naval Intelligence involved? Pursuit? Had they been involved
in a theft on base? What exactly was going on?

I asked about the moving furniture story and was told that the investigators
claimed that they followed up on this angle and said that they did talk to an
elderly lady at an elderly care housing facility that claims that she had
furniture delivered in the middle of the night by some guys whose description
fit those of the two stopped for speeding, but there again is another confusing
explanation. Supposedly this lady was angry because the two tried to extort
money from her for the moving of her furniture, but she angrily refused and the
two just dumped her furniture outside on the ground. Just how did she manage to
get it all inside and so quickly in the middle of the night? Or is it all a
ruse?

The information I got was provided by the Oak Harbor Police Department and they
were highly skeptical of the explanations and versions they were instructed to
give to anyone that asked. Apparently the two arrested individuals - both of
whom were Israeli nationals, one here illegally and the other on an expired and
altered visa - were remanded to the custody of the INS and disposition is
unknown at this time. However, the Oak Harbor Police informed me that the only
charges against these two were probably going to be minor.

Calls to the Border Patrol/INS, ATF, FBI and others have gone unreturned. I
tried to contact Naval authorities, but they claim they have absolutely no
record of the incident and referred me to the Naval Public Affairs Office...

5. Cloudcroft, New Mexico

Excellent work regarding the Cloudcroft and other Israeli arrests can be found
in the article, Mossad and Moving Companies: Masterminds of Global Terrorism?
With Commentary by Laura Knight-Jadczyk

Here's the news story:

Cloudcroft chief stops Israelis with suspicious cargo By Michael Shinabery Staff
Writer, Alamogordo Daily News

CLOUDCROFT - That they were speeding through the school zone first got his
attention.

That they had Israeli driver's licenses and expired passports made him
suspicious.

Cloudcroft Police Chief Gene Green stopped the 2-ton van on Thursday, for
speeding. Initially, Green thought the truck was commercial because of exterior
markings. But when he found it was out of Chicago, he asked for documentation
such as logs books and manifests.

"They said this is a U-Haul truck and handed me a rental agreement (for) in-town
delivery only in Illinois, (which) had expired two days before," Green said.

He called for backup, and Otero County Sheriff's Deputy Billy Anders, who
patrols the Sacramento Mountains, arrived, along with Capt. Norbert Sanchez and
Det. Eddie Medrano.

"We got them out and started digging a little deeper," Green said, "got
permission to search the truck. They claimed they were hauling furniture from
Austin to Chicago."

When officers advised the men they were not exactly en route from one town to
another, Green said the two men claimed they were Deming bound.

"But they couldn't give us an address in Deming they were going to," he said.
"Once we got into the truck, they had some junk furniture I wouldn't have given
to Goodwill."

Also inside the vehicle were, Green said, "50 boxes" they claimed was a
"private" delivery, but the men insisted they had no "idea what was in them."

At that point, the officers called for drug-sniffing and bomb-sniffing dogs. The
men were turned over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service, and U-Haul
recovered the truck. Contents of the boxes remain unknown, pending
investigation.

6."The Midwest"

Right after September 11th, a group of Israeli operatives carrying boxcutters
and "other equipment" were detained and released in "the Midwest." Here's the
story:

Nuclear Plants Tighten Security

FBI seeking 6 men seen in Midwest

By Martin Merzer, Curtis Morgan and Lenny Savino The Miami Herald October 3,
2001

WASHINGTON -- As the nation stands on high alert, the FBI is searching for six
men stopped by police in the Midwest last weekend but released -- even though
they possessed photos and descriptions of a nuclear power plant in Florida and
the Trans- Alaska pipeline, a senior law enforcement official said Tuesday.

The Federal Aviation Administration imposed new flight restrictions around
nuclear plants nationwide Tuesday, and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission advised
the nation's 103 nuclear plants late Monday to fortify security. On Tuesday,
agency spokesmen said the FAA's flight restrictions and the Nuclear Regulatory
Commission's security recommendations were based on Ashcroft's general alert
rather than a specific threat. Ashcroft warned that Americans could be struck by
another terrorist attack this week.

The incident in the Midwest apparently contributed to the new warning. The six
men stopped by police were traveling in groups of three in two white sedans,
said a senior law enforcement official, who requested anonymity.

SUSPICIOUS MATERIAL

In addition to the photographs and other suspicious material, they carried "box
cutters and other equipment,'' the official said. They appeared to be from the
Middle East and held Israeli passports. They were let go after the Immigration
and Naturalization Service determined that the passports were valid and that the
men had entered the United States legally, the official said.

The FBI declined to comment. An INS spokesman called the report unfounded. "We
have absolutely no information at this point in time to substantiate that
story,'' said the agency's Russ Bergeron. It could not be learned in what state
the six men were stopped or how they aroused suspicion. It was not known whether
their true identities matched those on the passports, or why the FBI was not
releasing their names or descriptions.

Investigators think the men almost certainly have changed cars by now and have
fled to Canada or elsewhere. Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller were
``furious'' that the INS allowed the men to be released without consulting the
FBI, the official said. Ashcroft and Mueller appeared Monday evening at a news
conference to announce that the government had ``credible'' but vague
information that another wave of terrorist attacks could strike Americans within
a week.

ON ALERT

Spokeswoman Rachel Scott said FPL's plants remained at the highest level of
alert. "We are in very close communication with all levels of law enforcement,
including the FBI, to ensure we have the security measures in place to protect
the plants,'' she said. Also Tuesday, the FAA restricted all flights below
18,000 feet and within 10 miles of 86 "sensitive nuclear sites'' , the agency
said. Exceptions can be made for law enforcement, medical and firefighting
flights. The 800-mile-long Trans-Alaska Pipeline runs from Prudhoe Bay on the
Arctic Ocean to Valdez on the Pacific.

7. New York City, 9/11

A huge amount has been written about "The Dancing Israelis," caught, arrested
and jailed for dancing and photographing themselves with the World Trade Center
burning in the background. It was later determined that at least two of them
were Mossad operatives again connected to a moving company, Urban Moving
Systems. Something is clearly wrong here. Michael Rivero's
whatreallyhappened.com website does a good job of covering this scandal.

Dominic Suter, the head of the moving company to which the Mossad agents were
attached ended up on an FBI terrorist watch list distributed to the Italian
banking authorities.

8. The DEA Report

Israeli "art students" operating a spy-ring in Florida and around the country
are documented in this DEA/FBI report. The spy ring maintained residences close
enough to the purported 9/11 hijackers so that official sounding stories now
parrot the official line that these Mossad operatives were watching the 9/11
hijackers with the cooperation of the US government. This German Intelligence
Report goes much farther, stating that in fact they were the operators of the
"al Qaeda" cell in America:

"The role of the Israeli Mossad in the terrorist attacks

Note: The following two sections are considered to be extremely sensitive due to
the special relationship between the Federal Republic [of Germany] and its
Jewish citizens as well as the State of Israel. This material is compiled from
German and American sources.

During the term of President George HW Bush, the government of Israel made an
official, but very secret, request to the American president. This request was
to permit agents of the Mossad, Israeli Foreign Intelligence, to enter the
United States and conduct surveillance operations against various Arab groups
residing in that country.

The stated purpose of this surveillance was to permit Israeli early warning of
terrorist plots against their country. Permission for this surveillance was
granted with the caveat that the Mossad would have a liaison with the FBI and
report any and all finding to that agency.

However, these conditions were not observed. The Mossad not only did not inform
the FBI of any of its findings, it is known to have engaged in commerce with
several groups of Israeli criminals of Russian backgrounds. These groups were
engaged in extensive criminal activities inside the United States, to include
the smuggling of the Ecstasy drug. Mossad agents were able to subvert American
criminal investigations through their knowledge of American telephone
surveillance of such groups.

It is very evident from surveillance conducted against Mossad agents in the
Federal Republic as well as interceptions of Israeli diplomatic communication
from the Federal Republic to Tel Aviv, that the Mossad has successfully
penetrated various extremist Arab groups in both the Federal Republic and the
United States.

These investigations disclosed in late May of 2001 that an attack was to be made
against certain specified targets in the American cities of Washington and New
York. But it was apparent that the Mossad was not only fully aware of these
attacks well in advance but actually, though their own agents inside these Arab
groups, assisted in the planning and the eventual execution of the attacks.

That the Israeli government was fully aware of these attack is absolutely
certain and proven. Diplomatic traffic between the Israeli Embassy in the
Federal Republic and the Israeli Foreign Office made it very clear that Minister
President Sharon was fully aware of this pending attack and urgently wished that
no attempt was made to prevent the attacks.

American intelligence officials have repeatedly expressed great concern in
meeting with our people that the Israeli government, through a company called
Amdocs, was able to conduct surveillance of all telephone communications within
the United States. It was categorically stated that this Israeli-based firm was
given the American contract with 25 of the largest American telephone companies.
This contract was granted over the objections and concerns of the American
intelligence community.

The official reason given for this extraordinary arrangement that permitted
Israeli agencies to observe all highly confidential investigative telephone
calls was that the United States has a "special relationship" with the State of
Israel and they had requested this."

This information is completely credible because Israel is famous for
impersonating or manipulating Arab criminals into terrorist activites such that
they can legitimate their genocidal land grab in Palestine.

"Other allegations involved Israelis claiming to be art students who had
backgrounds in signal interception and ordnance. " - Forward Magazine

Ordnance? Isn't that bombs? Signal Interception. Isn't that spying?

Here's a synopsis of the DEA Report by John Sugg of Creative Loafing, one of the
people involved in breaking the story:

A major international espionage saga is unfolding across the United States, with
some of its roots right here in the Atlanta area. It's been pretty hush-hush so
far, largely because the implications could be a major embarrassment for the
government.

The spy story is even more touchy because it isn't Saddam, Fidel, Osama or even
what passes nowadays for the KGB spying on America -- but our "friend" in the
war against "evil," Israel.

The basis of the spy allegations is a 60-page document -- a compilation of field
reports by Drug Enforcement Administration agents and other U.S. law enforcement
officials.

Creative Loafing last week obtained a copy of the report from intelligence
sources with long-term contacts among both Israeli and American agencies. The
government has attempted to deflect attention from earlier leaks about the spy
scandal. However, while declining to confirm or deny the authenticity of the
document, a spokesman for the DEA, William Glaspy, did acknowledge that the
agency had received many reports of the nature described in the 60 pages.

A source familiar with the creation of the document has told CL that the 60-page
memo was a draft intended as the base for a 250-page report. The larger report
has not been produced because of the volatile nature of suggesting that Israel
spies on America's deepest secrets.

Another DEA spokesperson, Rogene Waite, told Associated Press a draft document
had been compiled and forwarded to other agencies.

The validity of the scenarios described in the document is attested to in at
least one official mention. The Office of the National Counterintelligence
Executive, in a March 2001 summary, reported on "suspicious visitors to federal
facilities" and noted the type of "aggressive" activity recounted in the
document obtained by the Planet.

The nation's most prominent Jewish newspaper, the New York-based Forward, also
has confirmed portions of the vast spying network -- although stating that the
Israelis were monitoring Arabs in the United States, not trying to access U.S.
secrets. Referring to the arrest of five Israeli employees of a New Jersey
moving company who were arrested and held for two months after the Sept. 11
attack, Forward on March 15 stated: "According to one former high-ranking
American intelligence official, who asked not to be named, the FBI came to the
conclusion at the end of its investigation that the five Israelis ... were
conducting a Mossad surveillance mission and that their employer, Urban Moving
Systems of Weehawken, N.J., served as a front."

Forward also reported that a counterintelligence probe concluded two of the men
were operatives of Mossad, Israel's spy service.

Reports of the spying were first made public in December broadcasts by Fox News
reporter Carl Cameron. It isn't clear whether he had the 60-page document or was
only told its contents. A French online news service has obtained the report,
and Le Monde in Paris has advanced the story. However, in the United States, the
media ignored the original Fox broadcast, and only a handful of publications.
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution hasn't reported the story although another
Cox-owned paper, The Palm Beach Post has.

The absence of reporting hasn't gone unnoticed. The authoritative British
intelligence and military analysis service, Jane's Information Group, on March
13 chided: "It is rather strange that the U.S. media ... seem to be ignoring
what may well prove to be the most explosive story since the 11 September
attack, the alleged breakup of a major Israeli espionage operation in the United
States which aimed to infiltrate both the Justice and Defense departments and
which may also have been tracking al-Qaida terrorists before the aircraft
hijackings took place."

In flat language and sometimes excruciating bureaucratic detail, the document
relates scores of encounters between federal agents and Israelis describing
themselves as art students. The implication is that the seemingly innocuous
cover was used to gain access to sensitive U.S. offices and military
installations. For example, Paragraph 82 of the document states that MacDill Air
Force Base intelligence officers were warned in March 2001 of the art students'
efforts. A month later, a special alert was issued about a "possible
intelligence collection effort" at Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma City. Among
other activities, the base houses AWACS surveillance planes and repairs B-1
bombers.

The author of the document is not identified. However, many DEA and other law
enforcement agents are named. CL has contacted some of the named agents, and
three federal employees have confirmed the incidents described in the report.
None disputed the authenticity of the report. One senior DEA official, when read
paragraphs that mentioned him, said: "Absolutely, that's my report," adding,
however, that he didn't think the incidents were sufficient to prove an ongoing
spy operation. All of the federal employees said they could not be quoted by
name.

The specific incidents are richly chronicled, down to names, drivers' license
numbers, addresses and phone numbers of the Israelis.

Perhaps most intriguing, the Israelis' military and intelligence specialties are
listed: "special forces," "intelligence officer," "demolition/explosive ordnance
specialist," "bodyguard to head of Israeli army," "electronic intercept
operator" -- even "son of a two-star (Israeli) army general."

"The activities of these Israeli art students raised the suspicion of (the DEA's
Office of Security Programs) and other field offices when attempts were made to
circumvent the access control systems at DEA offices, and when these individuals
began to solicit their paintings at the homes of DEA employees," the document
states. "The nature of the individuals' conduct, combined with intelligence
information and historical information regarding past incidents (involving
Israelis leads the DEA) to believe the incidents may well be an organized
intelligence gathering activity."

The document also links the Israelis to possible drug investigations. The report
states: "DEA Orlando has developed the first drug nexus to this group. Telephone
numbers obtained from an Israeli Art Student encountered at the Orlando
(district office) have been linked to several ongoing DEA MDMA (Ecstasy)
investigations in Florida, California, Texas, and New York."

Much of the Israeli activity, according to the report, centered on Florida. In
addition to attempting to gain access to government installations, the document
states that the Israelis approached many intelligence agents, prosecutors and
federal marshals at their homes -- including one incident on Davis Islands.

In researching this story, the CL has learned of other encounters not included
in the 60-page report. For example, a member of Congress from Georgia recounted
to CL of being targeted by the art students on two occasions. A Tampa state
court judge was also approached. Neither the member of Congress nor the judge
wanted to be named.

In an era where CNN CEO Walter Issacson says it would be "perverse" to televise
Afghan babies killed by U.S. bombs, it's not surprising some stories go
unnoticed by a press that embraces "patriotism" by ignoring sacred cows.

One such sacred cow is what's happening in Israel and Palestine. Reporters know
that to criticize Israel -- to point out, for example, that wanton killing of
innocents is equally devilish, whether committed by Ariel Sharon's soldiers
flying U.S.-made helicopters, or by a Hamas suicide bomber who pushes the button
-- is to risk being called an anti-Semite. It's a tired canard meant to bludgeon
debate into silence, but it's often effective.

Even with that background, however, it's a little hard to understand the media's
avoidance of the spy story. In 1999, word began spreading among intelligence
agencies about bands of Israeli "students" doing very strange things, such as
popping up around federal buildings and military establishments marketing
artwork.

According to CL intelligence sources, low-level alerts began being flashed
around to offices of the FBI, DEA, federal prosecutors and others. By March 23,
2001, counterintelligence officials had issued a bulletin to be on the watch for
Israelis masquerading as "art students." The alert stated that there was an
"ongoing 'security threat' in the form of individuals who are purportedly
'Israeli National Art Students' that are targeting government offices selling
'artwork.'"

At the same time, American intelligence services were increasingly worried by
the dominance of many highly sensitive areas of telecommunications by Israeli
companies. Comverse Infosys (now called Verint) provides U.S. lawmen with
computer equipment for wiretapping. Speculation is that "catch gates" in the
system allowed listeners to be listened to. Software made by another Israeli
outfit, Amdocs, provided extensive records of virtually all calls placed by the
25 largest U.S. telephone companies. The relationship of those companies to the
detained Israelis is detailed in the 60-page document.

The DEA's intense interest in the case stems from its 1997 purchase of
$25-million in interception equipment from Israeli companies, according to a
March 14 report by Intelligence Online, a French Web-based service that first
revealed the existence of the 60-page document.

"In assigning so many resources to the inquiry (all DEA offices were asked to
contribute)," Intelligence Online stated. "The agency was clearly worried that
its own systems might have been compromised."

Often the Israeli "students" sold their artwork on street locations near federal
buildings. In Tampa on March 1, 2001, a DEA agent heard a knock on his office
door. According to the government report: "At the door was a young female who
immediately identified herself as an Israeli art student who had beautiful art
to sell." Knowing about the security alert, the agent began questioning the
"student." After several contradictory statements, the agent concluded "her
responses were evasive at best."

Elsewhere, the document notes that the students were "persistent" in trying to
gain access to the homes of law enforcement personnel.

On other occasions, the "students" showed up at homes of intelligence agents,
judges and other government employees. The report describes a December 2000
incident when a man and a woman knocked on the door of an Atlanta DEA agent.
"Both subjects claimed to be Israeli art students," the document states. "The
Special Agent examined some of the artwork, but became suspicious when the
students would not provide him with a contact telephone number.... Subsequently,
the Special Agent saw someof the exact same artwork for sale at [a]kiosk in the
Mall of Georgia."

Many of the apparent operatives had set up shop at addresses only stones' throws
from Arabs in San Diego, Little Rock, Irving, Texas, and in South Florida. The
Planet also has obtained a watch list of mostly Arabs under scrutiny by the U.S.
government. The addresses of many correspond to the specific areas where the
Israelis established bases.

For example, an address for the Sept. 11 hijacking leader, Mohammad Atta, is
3389 Sheridan St. in Hollywood, Fla., only a few blocks and a few hundred feet
from the address of some of the Israelis, at 4220 Sheridan.

A dozen Israelis, including the alleged surveillance leader, had been based in
Hollywood, Fla., between January and June last year -- quite possibly watching
Arabs living nearby who are suspected of providing logistical support to Osama
bin Laden's network. Especially in Florida, where 10 of the 19 Sept. 11
terrorists lived, the revelations about the Israeli activities bolster
speculation, reported by a Fox news reporter, that the students-cum-spies might
have gained advance knowledge of aspects of the Sept. 11 terrorists -- and not
passed on that critical intelligence to the United States. CL sources with
Israeli connections suggest that the information might have been relayed to U.S.
agencies, but might have been ignored or overlooked.

Despite the highly suspect behavior of the Israelis, the media hadn't picked up
on the story.

Then came Sept. 11. While America was mesmerized by the "War on Terrorism," the
media went out to a four-martini lunch when it came to skeptical reporting.

With a few commendable exceptions. One of those is Carl Cameron, a gutsy
reporter for Fox News. On Dec. 12, Cameron broke the blockbuster spy story. He
said at the time: "Since Sept. 11, more than 60 Israelis have been arrested or
detained, either under the new PATRIOT anti-terrorism law, or for immigration
violations. A handful of active Israeli military were among those detained,
according to investigators, who say some of the detainees also failed polygraph
questions when asked about alleged surveillance activities against and in the
United States."

Fox also reported the Israeli "students" "targeted" U.S. military bases -- which
is bolstered by the report obtained by the CL.

In the rest of the world -- Europe, Arab countries and Israel, especially -- the
story made headlines. Even the official Chinese news agency perked up. Not in
our well-defended (against disturbing news) homeland, however.

Cameron, in an interview, said he doesn't believe the conspiracy theories about
why the story was ignored here. An honest scribe, he points to a shortcoming in
his own work -- one hammered on by Israeli critics at the time -- conceding
"there were no (on the record) interviews. I didn't tell other reporters where
to find the documents. They couldn't do instant journalism."

Others at Fox confirm there was intense pressure on the network by pro-Israeli
lobbying groups, such as the Anti-Defamation League and the misnamed Committee
for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting (CAMERA).

"These charges are arrant nonsense unworthy of the usually reliable Fox News,"
CAMERA huffed in a Dec. 12 release.

Cameron reported Dec. 13 that federal agents were afraid to criticize Israel.
"Investigators within the DEA, INS and FBI have all told Fox News that to pursue
or even suggest Israeli spying ... is considered career suicide."

Cameron told me in similar language that's what journalists also can face. And,
what's clear is that Fox quickly removed the story from its Web site. (It was
reposted this month by Fox after other media began showing interest in the
story.)

After Cameron's initial reports, the story pretty much evaporated in the United
States before Christmas. Then, all hell broke loose in the last few weeks.
Intelligence Online in France obtained the same 60-page June 2001 federal report
that CL has. The French Web site reported that 120 Israelis had by now been
detained or deported by U.S. authorities.

Let's repeat that: 120 potential spies. This isn't worth press curiosity?

Few papers have given the story significant space. Many, like the AJC, haven't
uttered a peep.

Some of what has seeped out is disturbing. The Oklahoman, prompted by the French
articles, reported last week that 10 months ago four Israelis peddling artwork
(but carrying military IDs) were detained near sensitive Tinker Air Force Base
in Oklahoma. Le Monde in Paris recounted that six intercepted "students" had
cell phones purchased by an Israeli vice consul in the United States. Sources
told me that many of the phones had a walkie-talkie feature that was virtually
impossible to intercept.

Bush administration shills were quick to try to spin the story -- perhaps to
minimize damage should it turn out the government did have information in
advance about the people or activities that led to the Sept. 11 attack. A
Justice Department spokesperson, Susan Dryden, called the spy report an "urban
myth," and other federal flacks trumpeted that no Israeli had been charged with
or deported for spying. Of course, in the Great Game, "friendly" spies are
seldom embarrassed by being called by their true colors. The Israelis who have
been deported have been given the boot because of visa expirations and other
minor violations.

The Washington Post, which apparently doesn't have the 60-page document,
nonetheless reported March 6 that unnamed law enforcement officials had told the
paper that a "disgruntled" DEA agent had compiled the report after other federal
agencies didn't react to the Israelis' suspicious behavior. The Post, however,
also quoted a DEA spokesman who acknowledged that the large number of incident
reports had been combined into a draft memo. As with CL's inquiry, the DEA
spokesman wouldn't confirm for the Post whether the memo was the 60-page
document.

Predictably, Israeli Embassy spokesman Mark Reguev derided the Intelligence
Online report as "nonsense."

And, pro-Israeli apologists such as anti-Arab ideologue Daniel Pipes quickly
took the field with strident polemics. Pipes, who makes no claim of having seen
the 60-page document, nonetheless claimed in a March 11 column that the story
was a "dangerous falsehood" and that "U.S. journalists found not a shred of
evidence to support" it.

The fact that reporters were beginning to piece together real shreds was
blithely ignored by Pipes.

Israel in the past has belligerently denied wrongdoing until long after the
truth was obvious. Israel claimed Jonathan Pollard -- a super spy who did
horrendous, deadly damage to the United States until arrested in 1985 - wasn't
an agent. And, Israel has stubbornly contended its 1967 attack on the USS
Liberty, in which 35 American sailors were slaughtered, was an accident -- a lie
exposed in recent reports including one last fall on the History Channel. A
recent authoritative book, Body of Secrets, by James Bamford, concludes that
National Security Agency officials "were virtually unanimous in their belief
that the attack was deliberate."

With the purported art students, it's likely that denial will reach screeching
levels. The Bush administration would find it difficult to explain why it either
ignored or discounted such a large espionage operation."

Here's the full DEA report with supporting documents.

The four part Fox News TV series that got pulled is here.

Recently, the National Enquirer ran a story that "MI5 and Mossad are alleging
that al Qaeda has planted weapons around the USA." Moshe Cohen, a non-Zionist
Jew from New York reveals the strategy behind that poor attempt at population
conditioning. The Mossad has a history of planting misleading rumors in the
press prior to their attacks. Documentation for that claim appears in Mossad
whistleblower Victor Ostrovsky's books, By Way of Deception and The Other Side
of Deception. The Mossad is much more involved than distributing rumors. Check
out this operation in which Ostrovsky documents how the Mossad actually
engineereed false intelligence that resulted in the bombing of Libya. Notice the
similarity to the Office of Special Plans that engineered the false intelligence
on Iraq. Ostrovsky documented this pattern and predicted the destruction of
Saddam back in the eighties and nineties:

"Ephraim had spelled it all out for me and confirmed some of the information I'd
already known. He then went on. "After the bombing of Libya, our friend Qadhafi
is sure to stay out of the picture for some time. Iraq and Saddam Hussein are
the next target. We're starting now to build him up as the big villain. It will
take some time, but in the end, there's no doubt it'll work."

"But isn't Saddam regarded as moderate toward us, allied with Jordan, the big
enemy of Iran and Syria?"

"Yes, that's why I'm opposed to this action. But that's the directive, and I
must follow it. Hopefully, you and I will be done with our little operation
before anything big happens. After all, we have already destroyed his nuclear
facility, and we are making money by selling him technology and equipment
through South Africa."

In the following weeks, more and more discoveries were made regarding the big
gun and other elements of the Saddam war machine. The Mossad had all but
saturated the intelligence field with information regarding the evil intentions
of Saddam the Terrible, banking on the fact that before long, he'd have enough
rope to hang himself. It was very clear what the Mossad's overall goal was. It
wanted the West to do its bidding, just as the Americans had in Libya with the
bombing of Qadhafi. After all, Israel didn't possess carriers and ample air
power, and although it was capable of bombing a refugee camp in Tunis, that was
not the same. The Mossad leaders knew that if they could make Saddam appear bad
enough and a threat to the Gulf oil supply, of which he'd been the protector up
to that point, then the United States and its allies would not let him get away
with anything, but would take measures that would all but eliminate his army and
his weapons potential, especially if they were led to believe that this might
just be their last chance before he went nuclear.

Ostrovsky knows that being famous keeps him alive."

Dick Cheney and other members of the Administration keep saying they "KNOW"
there will be another terrorist attack. Maybe they have inside information. The
top level of the US administration (Feith, Wolfowitz, Libby, Luti, Perle,
Zakheim) has very close ties to Israel, some of them even being dual nationals.
Perle, Wolfowitz and Feith have all either been caught or investigated spying
for Israel.

Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski's pieces on the Israeli generals in Doug Feith's
office reveal the extent of Israeli penetration at the Pentagon.

Here's a picture of one of the meetings between Paul Wolfowitz and Israeli
Defense Chief Shaul Mofaz.

Then there's the AIPAC spy probe. Two officials of the American Israel Public
Affairs Committee (AIPAC) were recently arrested distributing classified
information from Larry Franklin, the Defense Intelligence Agency specialist on
Iran. They've both now been fired, but shouldn't they be in custody?

Altogether, the massive quantity of Israeli or dual nationals both in and out of
government arrested spying and or possibly moving explosives (of the 120 Israeli
nationals deported prior to 9/11, many were expert in explosives or signals
intelligence (also check DEA report for confirmation) prior to and after 9/11
warrants a thorough investigation and interdiction. Especially given the
high-level Israeli infiltration of the US civilian and military command.

See also:

The FBI shut down of Arab Muslim web sites in the days leading up to 9/11 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fbishut.html

More suspicious Israeli 'Movers' detained with detailed video of Sears Tower http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/sears2.html"

FBI Fury As Men With Nuke Plans, Valid ISRAELI Passports Escape
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/israelswithnukes.html {included below}

Hundreds of Mossad agents caught running wild in America! http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hundreds.html

Zionist Circles Benefit From WTC Collapse http://www.americanfreepress.net/Censored/26_Zionist_Circles_Benefit_From.htm

Enter Emmanuel Goldstein http://www.americanfreepress.net/goldstein.html

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you
about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." -- US
official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war" Motto of the Mossad

(3) Mossad's Link to 9-11

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:54:40 -0700 From: Jeff Blankfort <jblankfort@earthlink.net>

http://www.world-crisis.com/print_format/163_0_1_0/

British Broadsheet Links Mossad to 9/11

Article courtesy of Scottish-based Herald Newspapers

Published by the World Crisis Web
http://www.world-crisis.com Wednesday, November 5th, 2003 - 01:26pm GMT

Meil Mackay

There was ruin and terror in Manhattan, but, over the Hudson River in New
Jersey, a handful of men were dancing. As the World Trade Centre burned and
crumpled, the five men celebrated and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed
on American soil as it played out before their eyes. Who do you think they
were? Palestinians? Saudis? Iraqis, even? Al-Qaeda, surely? Wrong on all
counts. They were Israelis - and at least two of them were Israeli
intelligence agents, working for Mossad, the equivalent of MI6 or the CIA.

Their discovery and arrest that morning is a matter of indisputable fact. To
those who have investigated just what the Israelis were up to that day, the
case raises one dreadful possibility: that Israeli intelligence had been
shadowing the al-Qaeda hijackers as they moved from the Middle East through
Europe and into America where they trained as pilots and prepared to
suicide-bomb the symbolic heart of the United States. And the motive? To bind
America in blood and mutual suffering to the Israeli cause.

After the attacks on New York and Washington, the former Israeli Prime
Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was asked what the terrorist strikes would mean
for USA-Israeli relations. He said: "It's very good." Then he corrected
himself, adding: "Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy
[for Israel from Americans]." If Israel's closest ally felt the collective
pain of mass civilian deaths at the hands of terrorists, then Israel would
have an unbreakable bond with the world's only hyperpower and an effective
free hand in dealing with the Palestinian terrorists who had been murdering
its innocent civilians as the second Intifada dragged on throughout 2001.

It's not surprising that the New Jersey housewife who first spotted the five
Israelis and their white van wants to preserve her anonymity. She's insisted
that she only be identified as Maria. A neighbour in her apartment building
had called her just after the first strike on the Twin Towers. Maria grabbed a
pair of binoculars and, like millions across the world, she watched the horror
of the day unfold. As she gazed at the burning towers, she noticed a group of
men kneeling on the roof of a white van in her parking lot. Here's her
recollection: "They seemed to be taking a movie. They were like happy, you
know . they didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was strange."

Maria jotted down the van's registration and called the police. The FBI was
alerted and soon there was a state-wide all points bulletin put out for the
apprehension of the van and its occupants. The cops traced the number,
establishing that it belonged to a company called Urban Moving. Police Chief
John Schmidig said: "We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white
Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side. Three
individuals were seen celebrating in Liberty State Park after the impact. They
said three people were jumping up and down."

By 4pm on the afternoon of September 11, the van was spotted near New Jersey's
Giants stadium. A squad car pulled it over and inside were five men in their
20s. They were hustled out of the car with guns levelled at their heads and
handcuffed. In the car was $4700 in cash, a couple of foreign passports and a
pair of box cutters - the concealed Stanley Knife-type blades used by the 19
hijackers who'd flown jetliners into the World Trade Centre and Pentagon just
hours before. There were also fresh pictures of the men standing with the
smouldering wreckage of the Twin Towers in the background. One image showed a
hand flicking a lighter in front of the devastated buildings, like a fan at a
pop concert.

The driver of the van then told the arresting officers: "We are Israeli. We
are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the
problem." His name was Sivan Kurzberg. The other four passengers were
Kurzberg's brother Paul, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari. The men
were dragged off to prison and transferred out of the custody of the FBI's
Criminal Division and into the hands of their Foreign Counterintelligence
Section - the bureau's anti-espionage squad.

A warrant was issued for a search of the Urban Moving premises in Weehawken in
New Jersey. Boxes of papers and computers were removed. The FBI questioned the
firm's Israeli owner, Dominik Otto Suter, but when agents returned to
re-interview him a few days later, he was gone. An employee of Urban Moving
said his co-workers had laughed about the Manhattan attacks the day they
happened. "I was in tears," the man said. "These guys were joking and that
bothered me. These guys were like, 'Now America knows what we go through.'"

Vince Cannistraro, former chief of operations for counter-terrorism with the
CIA, says the red flag went up among investigators when it was discovered that
some of the Israelis' names were found in a search of the national
intelligence database. Cannistraro says many in the USA intelligence community
believed that some of the Israelis were working for Mossad and there was
speculation over whether Urban Moving had been "set up or exploited for the
purpose of launching an intelligence operation against radical Islamists".
This makes it clear that there was no suggestion whatsoever from within
American intelligence that the Israelis were colluding with the 9/11 hijackers
- simply that the possibility remains that they knew the attacks were going to
happen, but effectively did nothing to help stop them.

After the owner vanished, the offices of Urban Moving looked as if they'd been
closed down in a big hurry. Mobile phones were littered about, the office
phones were still connected and the property of at least a dozen clients were
stacked up in the warehouse. The owner had cleared out his family home in New
Jersey and returned to Israel.

Two weeks after their arrest, the Israelis were still in detention, held on
immigration charges. Then a judge ruled that they should be deported. But the
CIA scuppered the deal and the five remained in custody for another two
months. Some went into solitary confinement, all underwent two polygraph tests
and at least one underwent up to seven lie detector sessions before they were
eventually deported at the end of November 2001. Paul Kurzberg refused to take
a lie detector test for 10 weeks, but then failed it. His lawyer said he was
reluctant to take the test as he had once worked for Israeli intelligence in
another country.

Nevertheless, their lawyer, Ram Horvitz, dismissed the allegations as "stupid
and ridiculous". Yet USA government sources still maintained that the Israelis
were collecting information on the fundraising activities of groups like Hamas
and Islamic Jihad. Mark Regev, of the Israeli embassy in Washington, would
have none of that and he said the allegations were "simply false". The men
themselves claimed they'd read about the World Trade Centre attacks on the
internet, couldn't see it from their office and went to the parking lot for a
better view. Their lawyers and the embassy say their ghoulish and sinister
celebrations as the Twin Towers blazed and thousands died were due to youthful
foolishness.

Would friends of the USA jump for joy at the murder of thousands of its citizens?

The respected New York Jewish newspaper, The Forward, reported in March 2002,
however, that it had received a briefing on the case of the five Israelis from
a USA official who was regularly updated by law enforcement agencies. This is
what he told The Forward: "The assessment was that Urban Moving Systems was a
front for the Mossad and operatives employed by it." He added that "the
conclusion of the FBI was that they were spying on local Arabs", but the men
were released because they "did not know anything about 9/11".

Back in Israel, several of the men discussed what happened on an Israeli talk
show. One of them made this remarkable comment: "The fact of the matter is we
are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to
document the event." But how can you document an event unless you know it is
going to happen?

We are now deep in conspiracy theory territory. But there is more than a
little circumstantial evidence to show that Mossad - whose motto is "By way of
deception, thou shalt do war" - was spying on Arab extremists in the USA and
may have known that September 11 was in the offing, yet decided to withhold
vital information from their American counterparts which could have prevented
the terror attacks.

Following September 11, 2001, more than 60 Israelis were taken into custody
under the Patriot Act and immigration laws. One highly placed investigator
told Carl Cameron of Fox News that there were "tie-ins" between the Israelis
and September 11; the hint was clearly that they'd gathered intelligence on
the planned attacks but kept it to themselves. The Fox News source refused to
give details, saying: "Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified.
I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified
information." Fox News is not noted for its condemnation of Israel; it's a
ruggedly patriotic news channel owned by Rupert Murdoch and was President
Bush's main cheerleader in the war on terror and the invasion of Iraq.

Another group of around 140 Israelis were detained prior to September 11,
2001, in the USA as part of a widespread investigation into a suspected
espionage ring run by Israel inside the USA. Government documents refer to the
spy ring as an "organised intelligence-gathering operation" designed to
"penetrate government facilities". Most of those arrested had served in the
Israeli armed forces - but military service is compulsory in Israel.
Nevertheless, a number had an intelligence background.

The first glimmerings of an Israeli spying exercise in the USA came to light
in spring 2001, when the FBI sent a warning to other federal agencies alerting
them to be wary of visitors calling themselves "Israeli art students" and
attempting to bypass security at federal buildings in order to sell paintings.
A Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) report suggested the Israeli calls
"may well be an organised intelligence-gathering activity". Law enforcement
documents say that the Israelis "targeted and penetrated military bases" as
well as the DEA, FBI and dozens of government facilities, including secret
offices and the unlisted private homes of law enforcement and intelligence
personnel.

A number of Israelis questioned by the authorities said they were students
from Bezalel Academy of Art and Design, but Pnina Calpen, a spokeswoman for
the Israeli school, did not recognise the names of any Israelis mentioned as
studying there in the past 10 years. A federal report into the so-called art
students said many had served in intelligence and electronic signal intercept
units during their military service.

According to a 61-page report, drafted after an investigation by the DEA and
the USA immigration service, the Israelis were organised into cells of four to
six people. The significance of what the Israelis were doing didn't emerge
until after September 11, 2001, when a report by a French intelligence agency
noted "according to the FBI, Arab terrorists and suspected terror cells lived
in Phoenix, Arizona, as well as in Miami and Hollywood, Florida, from December
2000 to April 2001 in direct proximity to the Israeli spy cells".

The report contended that Mossad agents were spying on Mohammed Atta and
Marwan al-Shehi, two of leaders of the 9/11 hijack teams. The pair had settled
in Hollywood, Florida, along with three other hijackers, after leaving Hamburg
- where another Mossad team was operating close by.

Hollywood in Florida is a town of just 25,000 souls. The French intelligence
report says the leader of the Mossad cell in Florida rented apartments "right
near the apartment of Atta and al-Shehi". More than a third of the Israeli
"art students" claimed residence in Florida. Two other Israelis connected to
the art ring showed up in Fort Lauderdale. At one time, eight of the hijackers
lived just north of the town.

Put together, the facts do appear to indicate that Israel knew that 9/11, or
at least a large-scale terror attack, was about to take place on American
soil, but did nothing to warn the USA. But that's not quite true. In August
2001, the Israelis handed over a list of terrorist suspects - on it were the
names of four of the September 11 hijackers. Significantly, however, the
warning said the terrorists were planning an attack "outside the United
States".

The Israeli embassy in Washington has dismissed claims about the spying ring
as "simply untrue". The same denials have been issued repeatedly by the five
Israelis seen high-fiving each other as the World Trade Centre burned in front
of them. Their lawyer, Ram Horwitz, insisted his clients were not intelligence
officers. Irit Stoffer, the Israeli foreign minister, said the allegations
were "completely untrue". She said the men were arrested because of "visa
violations", adding: "The FBI investigated those cases because of 9/11."

Jim Margolin, an FBI spokesman in New York, implied that the public would
never know the truth, saying: "If we found evidence of unauthorised
intelligence operations that would be classified material." Yet, Israel has
long been known, according to USA administration sources, for "conducting the
most aggressive espionage operations against the USA of any USA ally".
Seventeen years ago, Jonathan Pollard, a civilian working for the American
Navy, was jailed for life for passing secrets to Israel. At first, Israel
claimed Pollard was part of a rogue operation, but the government later took
responsibility for his work.

It has always been a long-accepted agreement among allies - such as Britain
and America or America and Israel - that neither country will jail a "friendly
spy" nor shame the allied country for espionage. Chip Berlet, a senior analyst
at Boston's Political Research Associates and an expert in intelligence, says:
"It's a backdoor agreement between allies that says that if one of your spies
gets caught and didn't do too much harm, he goes home. It goes on all the
time. The official reason is always visa violation."

What we are left with, then, is fact sullied by innuendo. Certainly, it seems,
Israel was spying within the borders of the United States and it is equally
certain that the targets were Islamic extremists probably linked to September
11. But did Israel know in advance that the Twin Towers would be hit and the
world plunged into a war without end; a war which would give Israel the power
to strike its enemies almost without limit? That's a conspiracy theory too
far, perhaps. But the unpleasant feeling that, in this age of spin and
secrets, we do not know the full and unadulterated truth won't go away. Maybe
we can guess, but it's for the history books to discover and decide.

Article courtesy of Scottish-based Herald Newspapers

Published by the World Crisis Web
http://www.world-crisis.com Wednesday, November 5th, 2003 - 01:26pm GMT

(4) Protecting the Jewish lobby from the Mearsheimer-Walt critique

Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:52:42 -0700 From: Jeff Blankfort <jblankfort@earthlink.net>

The position of the Palestine Solidarity Committee (USA) goes a long way to
explain why the Palestine solidarity movement has been and continues to be an
utter failure. The people of Palestine deserve better as do the people of Iraq
and the US. I am not aware that WILPF has ever extended itself to take on
Israel's repression of the Palestinians so this paper is consistent with that.
It's a big circle of wagons that has encircled the lobby to protect it from
the Mearsheimer-Walt critique and those on the Left doing so, if they stretch
far enough, might just touch the fingers of Alan Dershowitz. I would say to
all of them, as the Israel Lobby, shielded by the Left (such as it is) beats
the drums for an attack on Iran, "Just don't say you didn't know!"

CONFUSING THE ISSUE: MEARSHEIMER & WALT'S "THE ISRAEL LOBBY"

(Printed in London Review of Books Vol. 28 No. 6 23 March 2006)*

Libby Frank

Member, Leadership Team, Women Challenge U.S. Policy: Building Peace on
Justice in the Middle East (Women's Int'l. League for Peace and Freedomj)

John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, authors of the paper, "The Israel Lobby,"
hold leading positions in American academic life. The paper is provoking great
interest in political and activist circles and provides an opportunity to
clarify issues of the "Israel Lobby" and U.S. policy.

The authors' vivid descriptions of oppressive Israeli actions and the billions
of dollars of U.S. tax money that go to Israel are accurate and do need public
airing. Successful efforts to keep the U.S. public ignorant of what is going
on in the Middle East and the control of debate on these issues have also been
accurately exposed here.

However, there are many problems in the paper. I focus here on only a few.

1. The exoneration of U.S. from responsibility for its own foreign policy.

2. The definition of the "Israel Lobby."

3. Claims of no benefits to U.S. from Israel.

4. The "Jewish Face" of the Israel Lobby.

1. The exoneration of U.S. Policy:

Most important, the authors (henceforth M-W) dismiss claims that the U.S.
government's imperialist, repressive moves in the Middle East are an integral
part of its overall foreign policy. According to them, the "Israel Lobby" is
to blame.

Noam Chomsky faults the paper, writing "that it leaves the US government
untouched on its high pinnacle of nobility."1

Does Israel "divert" U.S. policy from "what its national interest would
suggest" as stated by M-W, or do the interest of the right-wing Israeli
government coincide with those of the U.S.?

Diverse voices around the world challenge the idea that the Lobby is
responsible for U.S. policy vis a vis Israel. Following are some of the most eloquent:

From Vijay Prashad in the online version of The Hindu (India)

"AIPAC AND AJC [the American Jewish Committee] are powerful, but they do not
determine U.S. foreign policy. They are powerful not just because of their
money, but because their views converge with those of the neo-conservative
elements who dominate the ruling coalition in Washington." 2

From Mitchell Plitnick, Jewish Voice for Peace (U.S.)

"US geostrategic interest in a strong Israel has been considerable for a long
time. The idea that after WWII the US or any other major power would allow
independent Arab governments to emerge and control their own oil resources is
simply not credible." 3

From Joseph Massad, Faculty Member at Columbia, in Al-Ahram Weekly;

"Is the pro-Israel lobby extremely powerful in the United States? As someone
who has been facing the full brunt of their power for the last three years
through their formidable influence on my own university and their attempts to
get me fired, I answer with a resounding yes. Are they primarily responsible
for US policies towards the Palestinians and the Arab world? Absolutely not." 4

From the Palestine Solidarity Committee (USA);

"There is no evidence of a centralized international conspiracy of Jews to
control banks, media, Congress, or the world in general....

"We find hints of this stereotype in the insistence that U.S. support for
Israel is entirely due to the influence of the so-called 'Jewish
lobby'....Furthermore, there are several other powerful factions that pressure
the US government to support the Israeli government, such as right-wing
Christian groups...and the Aerospace Industry Association (AIA). The AIA,
promoting sales of weapons and equipment to Israel, donates twice as much to
political campaigns in this country as all the pro-Israel groups combined." 5

2. Definition of the "Israel Lobby;"

M-W state that since 1967, the "centrepiece of the US Middle Eastern policy
has been its relationship with Israel." That relationship is not explained
except as it is determined by the "Israel Lobby."

They allege that "... the Bush administration's ambition to transform the
Middle East is at least partly aimed at improving Israel's strategic
situation." This, too, according to M-W, is explained only by the Israel Lobby.

That "Lobby" is defined by M-W as "shorthand for the loose coalition of
individuals and organizations who actively work to steer US foreign policy in
a pro-Israel direction...Many of the key organisations in the Lobby, such as
the American-Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and the Conference of
Presidents of Major Jewish Organisations, are run by hardliners who generally
support the Likud Party's expansionist policies....The Lobby also includes
prominent Christian evangelicals...and 'neo-conservative gentiles'...."

But a major omission from their definition is the powerful role of the weapons
manufacturers and their lobby *" namely the Aerospace Industry Association (AIA).

The profits from arms sales to the Middle East by members of the AIA are
tremendous. Omitting this aspect obscures the drive by the U.S. for hegemony
in the region. It appears that M-W do not see this drive by the U.S. as a problem.

The AIA itself proudly acknowledges its role: "...it is assumed that for any
potential sale of U.S. defense equipment, a decision has already been made
that such a sale would be consistent with U.S. foreign policy interests...." 6

M-W state that "The US has provided Israel with nearly $3 billion to develop
weapons systems, and given it access to such top-drawer weaponry as Blackhawk
helicopters and F-16 jets...." But this is not due to the "Israel Lobby" as
defined by M-W. They don't mention the lobbying efforts by Sikorsky, the
manufacturer of the Black Hawks, or Lockheed Martin, the manufacturer of the F-16s.

"Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company is the world's largest "defense"
contractor. In 2001, Israel decided to purchase 52 additional F-16 fighter
jets. The contract value was reported to be approximately $1.3 billion..." 7
It has donated over $1 million to members of the US government committees
responsible for awarding defence contracts, and in return has been rewarded
with orders from the US federal government that are worth $65 million per
day....There is also a 'revolving door' between the company and the Bush
administration, with personnel working for Lockheed Martin moving to the
Pentagon, and vice versa." 8

The producer of Blackhawk helicopters, "Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation, is a
subsidiary of United Technologies Corporation. In February 2001, Sikorsky was
awarded a $211.8 million contract for 24 additional Black Hawk helicopters to
serve the Israeli Air Force."7

"These companies targeted members of House and Senate Appropriations
subcommittees, which allocate federal defense money, and the Armed Service
committees. Both companies spend heavily on lobbyists in Washington." 8

Can we imagine that Sikorsky and Lockheed Martin don't have vested interests
in U.S. foreign policy? Yet M-W make absolutely no mention of this kind of
influence and it is not included in their definition of the Israel lobby.

3. Claims of no benefits to the U.S. from Israel:

M-W express concern that the U.S. isn't getting its money's worth from Israel,
but they ignore benefits the U.S. currently receives from Israel. While giving
a good account of past assistance and cooperation with U.S. foreign policy,
M-W tacitly convey the idea that currently it's a one-way street. That is,
that the U.S. is completely supporting Israel and getting nothing worthwhile
in return.

But there are many ways Israel helps U.S. aggression today. Two right-wing
governments are supporting each other and gaining from each other.

As Joseph Massad has written in Al Ahram, "...it is in fact the very
centrality of Israel to US strategy in the Middle East that accounts, in part,
for the strength of the pro-Israel lobby and not the other way around.... The
fact that it is more powerful than any other foreign lobby on Capitol Hill
testifies to the importance of Israel in US strategy and not to some
fantastical power that the lobby commands independent of and extraneous to the
US 'national interest' The pro-Israel lobby could not sell its message... if
Israel was a communist or anti-imperialist country or if Israel opposed US
policy elsewhere n the world." 4

Douglas Feith, currently U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, once
explained that "...Israel has formidable military forces, intelligence
capabilities, militarily relevant R&D skills, strategically located ports and
airfields, training facilities, medical infrastructure, and high-quality
equipment maintenance skills. Israel willingly allows the U.S. to benefit from
all this. Without Israel, the U.S. couldn't duplicate these benefits in the
Middle East, even if we spent many billions of dollars."10

Today, Israel is actively providing aid to the U.S. in Iraq.

In the words of an Associated Press release, "After decades of U.S. military
aid and defense cooperation, the U.S. military is permeated by technology
developed in Israel." 11

A remarkable story in the Los Angeles Times has recently reported on the
advice and support that the U.S. receives from Israel on how to fight the
insurgency in Iraq. Here are some excerpts.

"In the last six months, U.S. Army commanders, Pentagon officials and military
trainers have sought advice from Israeli intelligence and security officials
on everything from how to set up roadblocks to the best way to bomb suspected
guerrilla hide-outs in an urban area.

"Israeli and American officials confirm that ... the Pentagon is increasingly
seeking advice from the Israeli military on how to defeat the sort of
insurgency that Israel has long experience confronting.

"The Israelis 'certainly have a wealth of experience from a military
standpoint in dealing with domestic terror, urban terror, military operations
in urban terrain, and there is a great deal of intelligence and knowledge
sharing going on right now, all of which makes sense,' a senior U.S. Army
official said on condition of anonymity. 'We are certainly tapping into their
knowledge base to find out what you do in these kinds of situations.'"

"Many of the tactics recently adopted by the U.S. in Iraq *" increased use of
airpower, aerial surveillance by unmanned aircraft of suspected sites,
increased use of pinpoint search and seizure operations, the leveling of
buildings used by suspected insurgents *" bear striking similarities to those
regularly employed by Israel.

"In the last week, U.S. soldiers began leveling houses and buildings used by
suspected guerillas, a tactic long employed by the Israeli military in the
West Bank and the Gaza Strip.... The Americans learned a lot from the
Israelis' use of [bulldozers] in urban combat." 12

In addition to weapons manufacturers, there are oil interests tied in with the
administration. These interests are dismissed by M-W, saying "there is hardly
any direct evidence to support this claim," that is, concern for oil.

One must also consider the gendarme role that nuclear-armed Israel plays in
the region, a consideration completely ignored by M-W.

4. The Lobby with a "Jewish Face:"

Let's be clear. Criticism of Israeli government policy or repressive actions
is not anti-Semitic. But when one speaks of the "Israel Lobby," it resounds as
the "Jewish Lobby." M-W, focusing on Jewish lobby groups, add to that perception.

Mitchell Plitnick, of Jewish Voice for Peace, explains: "One of the classic
anti-Semitic myths is that of Jews manipulating governments and other seats of
power behind the scenes. That pretty closely describes the work of a lobby,
and there is a powerful one, with a Jewish face, working to push particular
policies regarding Israel. We need to understand that lobby, what its effect
is, and what its nature is. That means asking, directly and fairly, is this a
'Jewish lobby', and does this truly have the power to be a tail wagging the
dog of American Middle East policy?.... Jewish 'shadow control' is an old
canard of anti-Semitism." 3

And Vijay Prashad in Frontline (India) continues "The idea of the 'Jewish
lobby' is attractive because it draws upon at least a few hundred years of
anti-Semitic worry about an international conspiracy operated by Jewish
financiers to defraud the European and American working poor of their
livelihood. ... The stereotype of a 'Jew' without a country, but with a bank,
had no loyalty to the nation, no solidarity with fellow citizens .... The
Nazis stigmatised the 'Jew' as the reason for poverty and exploitation and
obscured the role played by capitalism...."

Summary:

It is important to realize that U.S., policy is no more altruistic in the
Middle East than it is anywhere else in the world. The U.S. doesn't need an
Israel Lobby to tell it how to conduct its own dirty business.

Many readers of the Mearsheimer-Walt paper are angry and frustrated by the
one-sided policies of the U.S. government and their echo in the corporate
media. And many have welcomed the articulate exposEby M-W of elements in the
Israel Lobby.

But what is presented relieves the U.S. government of almost all
responsibility for its misdeeds in the region. Thinking progressive activists
cannot accept this thesis.

LMFrank

April 2006 --

Footnotes:

1. Noam Chomsky. "The Israel Lobby?" Znet, March 28, 2006.

2. Vijay Prashad. "The myth of the 'Jewish lobby.'" Frontline (India), Sept.
27-Oct.10, 2003. http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2020/stories/20031010000906000.htm

3. Mitchell Plitnick. "Myth and Reality: Jewish Influence on US Middle East
Policy." Jewish Voice for Peace. http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/publish/printer_100.shtml

4. Joseph Massad. "Blaming the Lobby." Al-Ahram Weekly On-Line, March 23-29,
2006, Issue 787. http//weekly.ahram.org/eg/print/2006/787/op35.htm

5. "Racism Against Jews is not Acceptable." Statement by the Palestine
Solidarity Committee, Seattle, Washington. Undated. Internet site of the
Palestine Information Project. http://members.aol.com/edwardmast/antiracism.html

6. "U.S. Government Advocacy Policy." White paper on defense trade. Aerospace
Industries Association. http://www.aia-aerospace.org/issues/subject/wp_advocacy_0405.pdf

7. Sam Bahour. "Corporate America and the Israeli Occupation of Palestine."
Counterpunch online, May Day 2002. htttp://www.counterpunch.org/bahour0501.html

8. "Activists Occupy Office Lockheed Martin Brussels." For Mother Earth
(Netherlands), Feb. 22, 2005. http://www.motherearth.org/news/news/php?at=uHpuAc

9. Lan Anh Nguyen. "Sikorsky ready to lobby for bid." The Middletown Press,
Jan. 3, 2005. HTTP://www.middletownpress.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=13668576&BRD=1645&PAG=461&dept_id=108)

10. Douglas J. Feith. "Strategic Ties Worth Enhancing," JINSA Online, Feb. 2,
1993. http://www.jinsa.org/articles/view.html?documentid=299

11. "U.S. military employs Israeli technology in Iraq war." Associated Press
story in online edition of USA Today, March 24, 2003.

12. Esther Schrader and Josh Meyer. "U.S. Seeks Advice from Israel on Iraq,"
Los Angeles Times, Nov. 22, 2003, p. A1.

(5) Comment on Mearsheimer/Walt paper, by Edward Peck, former U.S. ambassador
to Iraq

Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:55:44 EDT From: RePorterNoteBook@aol.com

Forum: 'The Israel Lobby' - Of course Israel has a lobby

EDWARD PECK: 'The dangerous, unacceptable result of this lobbying, however, is
the stifling of public debate'

Sunday, April 09, 2006

Editor's note: A recent work by two American academics took on a long-running
debate: the extent of the Israeli government's influence on the United States.
"The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy," by John Mearsheimer of the
University of Chicago and Stephen Walt of Harvard's Kennedy School of
Government, appeared last month as a paper at the Kennedy School.

An edited version in the London Review of Books (available at www.lrb.co.uk)
brought the work to wider public attention -- and elicited strong response
from critics and supporters alike. An accompanying commentary by Eliot A.
Cohen attacks the article. "Forum: 'The Israel Lobby' -- Yes, it's
anti-Semitic"

The London Review of Books recently published an article, by professors John
Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, on the Israel lobby's negative impact on U.S.
domestic and international interests. The expected tsunami of rabid responses
condemned the report, vilified its authors and denied there is such a lobby --
validating both the lobby's existence and aggressive, pervasive presence and
obliging Harvard to remove its name.

Edward Peck is a former U.S. ambassador to Iraq and Mauritania. He is an
advisory board member for the Center on Peace and Liberty at the Independent
Institute in Oakland, Calif. (www.independent.org).

START:

All democracies have lobbies. Shrill insistence that no groups promote Israel
is ludicrous. Opinions differ on the long-term costs and benefits for both
nations, but the lobby's views of Israel's interests have become the basis of
U.S. Middle East policies. That this influence largely results from the
efforts of people determined to exercise their democratic prerogatives is not
open to question -- or to challenge.

The dangerous, unacceptable result of that lobbying, however, is the stifling
of public debate.

Knowing the fiercely negative reactions to accurate, detailed reporting of
controversies surrounding Israel, the media fail to cover Israel's violations
of every principle for which the United States -- and Israel -- loudly
proclaim they stand. There is only rare, skimpy coverage of the ongoing
Israeli mass punishments, house demolitions, illegal settlements,
assassinations, settler brutality, curfews and beatings. On the other hand,
the blind Palestinian rage generated by decades of receiving humiliating,
savage suppression in their homeland is reported in lurid, bloody detail.

The lobby's effectiveness at control was illustrated two years ago. Both
government and media condemned China when it arrested, and accused of
espionage, a Chinese citizen green-card holder visiting from the United
States.

Neither the U.S. government nor media has ever protested -- has never even
mentioned -- Israel's years-long multiple arrests and protracted detentions of
American citizens, without charge or trial. In September 2000, CNN interviewed
four Americans who had been tortured, the only report on this compelling
story, and the network has since been forced to refuse selling recordings of
that news segment, "Americans Mistreated in Israeli Jails." America would have
been fully informed had any other country committed these acts.

The lobby also recently blocked the New York staging of a play, following its
successful London run, based on the words of American peace activist Rachel
Corrie ("My Name is Rachel Corrie"). She was crushed by an armored Caterpillar
bulldozer in 2003 while attempting to prevent the Israeli demolition of a
Palestinian home in Gaza. The driver failed to notice her blaze orange vest,
yellow hard hat and bullhorn.

No rational American wants anything bad to happen to Israelis or Palestinians
or Americans. But they have happened, are happening, will continue to happen.
Israel's actions often involve violations of human rights, international law
and U.N. resolutions, undertaken at the expense of a helpless, brutalized
Palestine, thus denying Israel peace, security and international support.
Worse, they also lead to violent reactions, which are often recognized under
the U.N. Charter as legitimate resistance to occupation.

Israeli actions also generate anti-Semitism, the very label the lobby uses to
bludgeon into silence anyone in America who questions relations with Israel
and its expansionist policies. This effectively blocks broad public
understanding that Israel's interests and America's, sometimes in agreement,
are sometimes sharply divergent. Of greater and entirely justifiable concern,
the lobby has succeeded in pressuring successive administrations into actions
and statements blatantly contrary to announced American principles and the
advancement of U.S. objectives.

As the only nation unstintingly providing Israel with vast amounts of money,
arms and unhesitating political protection, the United States is perceived as
the key facilitator of 40 years of occupation and oppression. The massive,
growing political, economic and human costs of continuing that close
relationship merit public knowledge, discussion and debate.

The Israel lobby prevents it, as Mr. Mearsheimer and Mr. Walt have carefully
documented.

(6) Chicago Tribune: Chomsky to the rescue of the lobby again

Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:24:57 -0700 From: Jeff Blankfort <jblankfort@earthlink.net>

Forget the gross distortion of the competing forces in the 1948 war. Here is
Chomsky to the rescue of the Israel Lobby again, assuring us that the war in
Iraq is all about oil as if the destabilization of the region serves those
interests. That's why Bush Sr. and the oil companies opposed it.

2 profs spark political firestorm

Duo from U. of C. and Harvard write that a powerful lobby has been able to
force U.S. foreign policy to serve the interests of Israel

By Ron Grossman Tribune staff reporter

April 6, 2006

A University of Chicago professor has ignited an intellectual firestorm in
halls of ivy and corridors of power with an essay in a highbrow British journal.

Writing in the London Review of Books, John Mearsheimer, a U. of C. political
scientist, and his academic partner, Harvard University professor Stephen
Walt, offered a simple diagnosis for what ails U.S. foreign policy.

How did we get involved in a seemingly endless Iraq war? Why are we reviled in
Muslim countries and targeted by terrorists?

"Why," they asked, "has the United States been willing to set aside its own
security in order to advance the interests of another state?"

Mearsheimer and Walt say a vocal and well-financed lobby--made up of Jewish
organizations and Christian fundamentalists, political fundraisers, media
outlets and neo-conservatives--gets Washington to slavishly do Israel's bidding.

Mearsheimer and Walt's thesis, published late last month, has provoked both
applause and a torrent of criticism. It also has inspired several spinoff
counter-conspiracy theories.

When Walt recently stepped down as dean of Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of
Government, some speculated he was forced out because the university was
taking heat for their essay, "The Israel Lobby." Harvard published a news
release saying the change long had been in the works. Both Harvard and the U.
of C. have argued universities must be a forum for controversial ideas like
those discussed in the essay.

"We wanted to stimulate a serious debate," said Mearsheimer, "not a food fight."

Reactions are mixed

Some observers suggest that Mearsheimer and Walt have done just the opposite,
potentially scaring people away from the debate by putting the issue in
polarizing terms.

But Daniel Levy, a former Israeli peace negotiator, told a leading Israeli
newspaper: "It would in fact serve Israel if the open and critical debate that
takes place over here were exported" to the U.S.

The Christian Science Monitor favorably cited Mearsheimer and Walt's theory in
an editorial on the Middle East. Some Israeli commentators have given it
cautious praise as a warning that American support for Israel can't be taken
for granted.

But to Jewish-American groups, "The Israel Lobby" smacks of the age-old
accusation that a secret cabal of Jews aims at world dominance.

The Anti-Defamation League pronounced Mearsheimer and Walt's essay "a classic
conspiratorial anti-Semitic analysis invoking the canards of Jewish power and
Jewish control." Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz told a reporter for the
university's student newspaper that "The Israel Lobby" repeats material posted
on neo-Nazi Web sites.

Jewish ears are particularly sensitive to blame-the-Jews theories, notes
Richard Hirschhaut, director of the Illinois Holocaust Museum and Education
Center. Recently, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan attacked the Jews of
Hollywood for undermining America's morals with movies promoting homosexuality.

Critics of the Israel lobby thesis, though, aren't limited to Jewish communal
leaders and Israel's defenders. Mearsheimer and Walt name Dershowitz, O.J.
Simpson's lawyer, as a lobby member. On the far right, David Duke, the white
supremacist, charges the professors with being Johnny-come-latelies to an
argument he has long made. At the other end of the political spectrum is Noam
Chomsky, the father of modern linguistics, a notable professorial dissenter
and vocal critic of Israel.

Writing for the Znet Web site, Chomsky applauded Mearsheimerand Walt for their
courage in writing "The Israel Lobby," but he added: "We still have to ask how
convincing their thesis is. Not very, in my opinion."

A piece on Israel and the U.S. national interest originally was commissioned
by The Atlantic Monthly, but when editors saw it, they declined to run it.
Some of Mearsheimer and Walt's supporters take that as further proof of the
Israel lobby thesis, saying such is the power of the Jewish state's supporters
that dissenting views can't get published in the U.S.

Mearsheimer, a former West Point cadet, said international relations should be
based on cold, clear calculation of a nation's best interests. Emotional or
moral considerations are irrelevant, according to this viewpoint.

No stranger to controversy

Despite his soft-spoken manner, Mearsheimer is hardly a stranger to
controversy. In 1990, he wrote an essay proposing that Germany be encouraged
to develop atomic weapons. He was an outspoken opponent of the U.S. invasion
of Iraq in 2003, fearing it would give the Israelis an opportunity for an
ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza.

He told a reporter for the Maroon, U. of C.'s student newspaper: "The
precedent is there [to forcibly expel Palestinians], and it behooves us to
make sure it does not happen again."

The reference was to Palestinian refugees uprooted by Israel's 1948 war of
independence. In the lobby essay, Mearsheimer and Walt charged that "the
creation of Israel entailed a moral crime against the Palestinian people."

Of America's pro-Israel tilt, the professors write: "This extraordinary
generosity might be understandable if Israel were a vital strategic asset or
if there were a compelling moral cause for sustained U.S. backing."

They argue that Israel is neither morally in the right nor militarily
endangered; therefore, the cause of U.S. foreign policy must be the
alternative: the power of the Israel lobby.

Critics note that Mearsheimer and Walt's logic--that either one or the other
must be true--leads to some highly controversial conclusions. The two argue
that Israel has always been the Goliath, not the David, of the Middle East.
"The Zionists had larger, better equipped and better led forces during the
[war of independence]," the two professors wrote.

Military historians, though, note that the newly born Israel had only a
militia when it was attacked by professional armies from Egypt, Syria, Iraq
and Jordan, backed by air power and heavy weapons. The Israelis had two
artillery pieces; their opponents had several hundred.

Chomsky notes that, militarily, the lobby theory gets things backward. Instead
of reducing the U.S. to its pawn, Israel has been several times reined in by Washington.

"In several of the Arab-Israeli wars, the U.S. forced the Israeli army to stop
when it was on the verge of annihilating the Arab forces," he said in an interview.

The influence of Israel on American foreign policy, Chomsky said, is dwarfed
by that of the energy companies.

"I wish the lobby theory was true," he said. "But does anybody doubt that
American oil interests are what are at stake in the Middle East?"

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 09:29:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: mann david <dmann51@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Do Mexicans have Permits For Protests of 50K to 500,000 ...

Well said.

--- NoRedCoats@aol.com wrote:

> Now, now, there you go talking about immigrants
> being treated better than
> Americans and it's all their fault your are treated
> poorly. These immigrants for
> the most part work hard and have been referred to
> as "the sleeping giant."
> Rather than just sleeping, I think the giant was too
> busy WORKING and now is
> threatened by some up tight, anal retentive people
> who actually suffer from an
> inferiority complex. So, they write legislation
> that would go after the hard
> working and poor immigrants punishing them and
> tearing apart their families,
> friends, wives, etc. Let me ask you the reader,
> how many Europeans ever
> got or applied for some kind of Visa or Passport
> from Native Americans.
>

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:51:38 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
From: "Cait" <ansith@gmail.com>
Subject: 9/11 Audio Tapes Released

I've just started listening.. lots to get through, here's the link where you
can listen to them from MSNBC.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8926416/

Stand up! Speak your mind!
My weblog:

"US Constitution, The Bill of Rights 12/15/1791";
'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances.'

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:42:17 -0000
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
Subject: Mr. Bush, We Know What You Did That Summer ! - September 11th, 2001

http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=351

Mr. Bush, We Know What You Did That Summer ! - September 11th, 2001

There are two groups of people in this world: those who believe
the official explanation of the events of September 11th, 2001, and
those who have examined the evidence and realize that the official
version of events totally unbelievable.

An Open Letter to: Mr. George W. Bush, Mr. Richard Cheney, Members of
PNAC and your supporting cast:

Guess what? WE KNOW WHAT YOU DID THAT SUMMER - that long ago time of
innocence before the events of September 11th, 2001. We know what you
did, and the game is over - even though you don't yet know it.. The
work of the independent 9/11 researchers is paying off. The evidence
is steamrolling through the information super highway and is now
creeping into the clogged arteries of the mainstream media. We may
not know every detail and we may not agree on your individual motives,
but two facts are now irrefutable: the official story of what happened
on September 11th is not true and you were involved.

Somebody, somewhere does not like you guys anymore. Somebody,
somewhere has given the corporate media the OK to open the one topic
that has been totally verboten up till now. Somebody, somewhere has
made it permissible for hints to be dropped into the public arena..
Those hints - which focus on the reasonable suspicion that has been
raised about the attacks of 9/11 - have been well received. The
cover-up is disintegrating slowly but surely.

Books and documentaries are now trickling into the awareness of the
general population. That trickle is turning into a steady flow that
will increase every time a new set of eyes is opened to the evidence
that has been amassed. Until now, the mainstream media have been the
hull of the vessel that has kept the official conspiracy theory
afloat. But now, for the first time, that vessel is sinking under
the weight of its own lies. At this very moment, because of the
distortions and secrets of the official version of 9/11, you all are
beginning to drown in your own pool of lies.

Understand that this is not a case of people having different opinions
as to what happened that day. This is a terribly serious situation in
which some people accepted your version of 9/11 because you frightened
them into doing so. They believed everything you said without asking
for any corroborating evidence because you asked them to take your
word as the Gospel truth. But other people looked at what you told
them and began to ask common sense questions about the holes you left
in the official story. They could not understand why you refused to
allow a bipartisan, impartial investigation into the events of that
day. They realized that the Kean Commission, formed a year after the
attacks, was NOT charged with finding out what really happened. They
realized that this commission was there to document your official
story, regardless of how it conflicted with the evidence that had been
unearthed. This second group refused to sit back and ignore what was
being revealed by scholars and other experts among them, and they
continued investigating this most fateful day for themselves.

Keep in mind the large majority of Americans were completely unaware
there were any questions at all being raised about your official
story. You guys did a yeoman's job of getting the corporate media to
do your dirty work. You got them to repeatedly report the bogus
elements of the story you wanted us to accept. They did that for the
better part of four and a half years, but now their shell game is over
because they are no longer relevant. The independent 9/11 Truth
community has bypassed your conduits to the public. Finally,
researchers, authors, scientists, film makers and real journalists
have assumed the role of protecting our nation from enemies domestic
and it is only a matter of time before your little story is all but a
bloodstain on the history files of the ruling elite.

Much more in full blog: http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=351

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:24:12 -0500
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: A Day in the Life: 4/11/6

GOVERNMENT OF THE USA IN EXILE
Free Americans Reaching Out
to Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free

Via <prez@usa-exile.org>

April 11, 2006

Dear Friends and Colleagues,
As an environmentalist, I quite agree with Ben Franklin's analysis
below. For not until the Bush Junta is found guilty of one of its
largest crimes do we stand much chance of overcoming its current
lockdown of all major lucid eco-initiatives.
The junta's largest crimes include 9/11, the theft of the 2000 and
2004 US presidential elections, the use of "depleted" uranium weapons
and--last but not least--their kidnap/murder/blackmail pedophile black
op. Once we have established their guilt within one of these, the
others will become clarified for the general citizenry much more
easily.
There's now more momentum behind efforts to reach the public with
the 9/11 truths than behind the other efforts. So why don't we come
together behind the formidable 9/11 momentum so we can push it all the
way through to the indictments of all the principal 9/11 conspirators?
This way, those gallant truth activists specializing within the other
four heinous matters can reach their goals much more quickly than
otherwise.
Without 9/11 the murders during the past two years of those two or
three hundred thousand Iraqi civilians would not have taken place
because the US public would not have tolerated such a vicious
unwarranted invasion. Yet the US anti-war movement totally ignores the
9/11 issue.
If the French can "overcome" by taking to the streets Big Time,
then so can North Americans.

Yours for all species,

Keith Lampe, Ro-Non-So-Te,

Ponderosa Pine,

Transition Prez

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From: "Stephanie Sutton" <ssutton@flantech.com>
Date: April 11, 2006 6:48:24 AM EST
To: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: a response from someone that lives in Tonga

-----Original Message-----
From: MOONLITE [mailto:moonlite@kalianetvav.to]
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:33 AM
To: 'Stephanie Sutton'
Subject: RE: 'L'etat, C'est Moi'

Thanks again, Stephanie. You know, I read all this stuff--and lots of
it out
there--about Bush, the new US government and all these wretched things
that
are being perpetrated on us, chemtrails etc.--but, nothing tops the
9/11 thing.
What do you think of Ben's idea below?

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If Bush and the government, and those pulling his strings, were behind
the
EVENT of events, that being nine one one, isn't that outrageous enough
to
get a resolve on and worth every alternative web concentrating on until
it
is perfectly clear to everyone out there that this is what the
government
did to its people and their country---and the world?

If you were confronting someone who just killed 30 kids in some park,
why
would you bother to bring up the dog he killed the day before and the
dog
the day after? Granted it all needs reporting, but the most heinous
crime
should always be in the headlines until there is justice, even if it
takes a
million-person march in every town of a million or more citizens to
make the
point. The mainstream government-owned media would have to report these
events or show themselves for what they are.

"Smoke 'em out," Is a good call for this campaign. "You are with us or
against us" takes on new meaning as well.

The crowning event needs more attention. Every time one brings up the
dead
dogs, the killer is being exonerated a little more from the magnitude
of the
playground slaughter. A lot of websites into discrediting the Bush
admin,
don't even mention the holocaust of nine one one. I think every page
should
open with a reminder that we are talking about the man and the
government
that officially turned on us that day. Imagine reporting some of the
doings
of a child killer and leaving out the major event.

Every web into disclosure should open their page with an appeal to all
to
open their minds and get certain with the truth about the series of
events
that stare us in the face, but masked somehow such that we can't see the
phantom behind the opera.

If every web just asked this one question; what brought down building 7,
that 47-story building, on that frightful day? Was it a fire in the
basement, as the official report states, or was it by demolition, as the
owner of the WTC towers and bldg. 47 states? Come on, just answer that
one and then think it all through. Imagine yourself as a judge having
to
hear the case and forced to do your job of making a clear assessment of
what
must be the truth. Is the owner of the WTC towers a terrorist? Why
isn't
he in jail?

This is risky, for you may conclude that this one question causes one to
question all of the events that day, and as a competent and unbiased
judge,
what is your verdict? Oh, you need more of an investigation?... Well
you
don't really, for the facts surrounding that one event, bldg 47,
provide enough
evidence there to question all of that day's terror. Call for your
investigation, you have the power, but you will have to go into the
streets
to get someone to listen to you, for you are asking the "FOX Network" to
watch the hen house when you expect the media to perform for the people.
There in the streets, in the quantity of millions, the media cannot
ignore
you. If they do, then they have to go too.

It seems so clear that the event I speak of, speaks for itself. Why
can't
the masses of people see that? Are they brainwashed by the media? I
mean
really brainwashed, like hypnosis being used on TV or some subliminal
kind
of programming? Another piece to the truly unbelievable puzzle? No
wonder
everyone is washing their cars and watching their TV stars.

Something had to plant the idea in their brains that nothing is strange
about nine one one, and imagine, some of these people are very
intelligent
and analytical in every other aspect of their lives.

They cling to their mother in disbelief while she kills them one at a
time.

It was a horrible crime.

By Ben Franklin

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The Impacts of
Radioactive Uranium Contamination on Human DNA

April 10, 2006

scienceagogo.com

Uranium’s Effect on DNA Established

The use of depleted uranium in munitions and weaponry is likely to come
under intense scrutiny now that new research that found that uranium
can bind to human DNA. The finding will likely have far-reaching
implications for returned soldiers, civilians living in what were once
war-zones and people who might live near uranium mines or processing
facilities.

Uranium - when manifested as a radioactive metal - has profound and
debilitating effects on human DNA. These radioactive effects have been
well understood for decades, but there has been considerable debate and
little agreement concerning the possible health risks associated with
low-grade uranium ore (yellowcake) and depleted uranium.

Now however, Northern Arizona University biochemist Diane Stearns has
established that when cells are exposed to uranium, the uranium binds
to DNA and the cells acquire mutations, triggering a whole slew of
protein replication errors, some of which can lead to various cancers.
Stearns' research, published in the journals Mutagenesis and Molecular
Carcinogenesis, confirms what many have suspected for some time - that
uranium can damage DNA as a heavy metal, independently of its
radioactive properties. "Essentially, if you get a heavy metal stuck on
DNA, you can get a mutation," Stearns explained. While other heavy
metals are known to bind to DNA, Stearns and her team were the first to
identify this characteristic with uranium.

Depleted uranium - what is left over when the highly radioactive
isotopes of uranium are removed - is widely used by the military.
Anti-tank weapons, tank armor and ammunition rounds are just some of
the applications. "The health effects of uranium really haven't been
studied since the Manhattan Project (the development of the atomic bomb
in the early 1940s). But now there is more interest in the health
effects of depleted uranium. People are asking questions now," Stearns
said.

Her research may shed light on the possible connection between exposure
to depleted uranium and Gulf War Syndrome, or to increased cancers and
birth defects in the Middle East and Balkans. And closer to home,
questions continue to be asked about environmental exposure to uranium
from mine tailings; heavily concentrated around Native American
communities. "When the uranium mining boom crashed in the '80s, there
wasn't much cleanup," Stearns said. Estimates put the number of
abandoned mines on the Navajo Nation in Arizona at more than 1,100.

Source: Northern Arizona University

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Beastly Behavior
One by one, the justifications mouthed by
the makers of the Iraq War
have been stripped away,
revealed as tissues of lies

by Chris Floyd
April 10, 2006
Moscow Times

So now we are down to the raw meat at last. One by one, the
justifications mouthed by the makers of the Iraq War have been stripped
away, revealed as gossamer tissues of lies and obfuscation: weapons of
mass destruction, Iraqi involvement in Sept. 11, reducing terrorism
and, of course, bringing democracy to the Iraqi people. This last rag
has been the one clutched most fiercely of late by the warlords in
Washington and London, but now it too has been cast aside. All that's
left is the naked, slathering beast of power, imposing its will on a
conquered land -- and blaming its victims, even as it chews them to
pieces.

This past week saw an astounding display of hypocrisy and bad faith by
those twin towers of the U.S. establishment: the government (or rather,
the unconstitutional military junta fronted by President George W.
Bush) and the corporate media. Together they made it abundantly clear
that the elite now regard Iraqis as ungrateful, useless trash, unfit to
choose their own leaders -- and unworthy of the "great sacrifice"
America has made in looting and savaging their country in an unprovoked
war of aggression.

First the junta dispatched hit-gal Condi Rice, with her gormless valet
Jack Straw in tow, to expedite the removal of Ibrahim al-Jaafari, the
man selected as prime minister in the "democratic process" established
by the Bush faction. The cover story is that al-Jaafari has not been
vigorous enough in suppressing the Shiite militias. But this is an odd
criticism indeed, considering that it was the occupation coalition that
brought many of these deadly sectarian gangs -- including the notorious
"Wolf Brigade" -- into the Iraqi government in the first place, as The
Times of London and The Wall Street Journal, among many others, report.

No, the real reason for the frost job is that al-Jaafari is
insufficiently enthusiastic about the Bush gang's long-running project
to impose their own sectarian dogma on Iraq; that is, their extremist
faith in the "free market," by which of course they mean a market
controlled by handful of foreign fat-cats operating without any
restraints. They much preferred the man al-Jaafari defeated, by one
vote, to become premier: current Iraqi Vice President Adel Abdul Mahdi.

In February 2005, Mahdi, then finance minister, endeared himself to the
Bush regime by openly declaring -- in front of the National Press Club
in Washington, no less -- that Iraq would throw its oil fields wide
open to foreign investment. This offer, placing the world's
second-largest oil reserves in a few private hands, will be "very
promising to the American investors and to American enterprise,
certainly to oil companies," Mahdi announced. What's not to love about
this guy?

But then those ungrateful wretches chose al-Jaafari -- an open admirer
of Noam Chomsky, for God's sake! -- over the regime's favorite. Such
uppityness was not to be borne. From then on, al-Jaafari's every step
toward forming a government was hobbled by American sniping and
backroom maneuvering, with the petulant Bushists perfectly willing to
let the country slide into anarchy and civil war while they schemed to
get Mahdi or some other pliant tool into the catbird seat. After all,
what are a few more thousand dead Iraqis at this point? Who's counting?

For it's not just oil at stake, of course. Over the past three years,
the Bushists have quietly forced a vast program of economic shock
therapy on Iraq, policies that have "administered a series of death
blows to locally-based enterprises" by allowing foreign companies to
take full control of Iraqi businesses, then ship the loot out of the
country, as professor Michael Schwartz of Stony Brook University
reports on TomDispatch.com. This despoliation -- with the resultant
poverty and unemployment -- has been one of the primary causes driving
Iraqi discontent, Schwartz notes; early peaceful protests by ordinary
citizens about the effects of the Bushist rapine were met with such
savage repression that thousands joined the nascent insurgency.

But the dogma of the free fat-cat market must be preserved at all
costs. So Rice and Straw were sent to Baghdad to slip the shiv into the
bumbling al-Jaafari's back and sternly chide Iraqis for their failure
to form a government that will permanently enshrine the economic rape
program and finalize a new petroleum law that will activate the dozens
of exploitation deals already signed with foreign oil companies, as the
Houston Chronicle reports. Rice berated the Iraqis for their
ingratitude, noting that America has put "a lot treasure, a lot of
human treasure" on the line for them, The New York Times reports. No
doubt her hosts -- who have seen 100,000 of their civilians killed and
at least $9 billion looted from their treasury to pay for the
occupation of their own country -- were deeply chastened.

But The New York Times surpassed the stern Condi in haranguing the Arab
ingrates. In an astonishing turn from a paper that more than any other
helped sway mainstream opinion in favor of Bush's criminal invasion, a
Times editorial blasted Iraqis for letting their nation sink into a
shameful state of violence, chaos and repression, and declared that if
the hapless al-Jaafari were allowed to stay in power, then the whole
damn place should be written off as unworthy of U.S. "protection."
Dripping with contempt, the editorial clearly signaled the emerging
conventional wisdom of the American establishment on the war: We tried
to do good, but as always, the darkies let us down. Then again, isn't
that the American establishment's standard reaction to all its bloody
misadventures?

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From: "Graham Jukes" <grahamjukes@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: April 11, 2006 2:11:05 AM EST
Subject: PHARMACEUTICAL companies are systematically creating diseases

What we all knew is now on record

Drugs Companies are concocting new diseases to boost their profits!

Yes! Like Aids, Diabetes, Bird Flu, etc., etc.,

By way of spraying the skies, the water supplies and being in cahoots
with food manufacturers!

And at the same time finding an "economical" level pension-funding, age
and population manipulation.

Now you know why so many Micro-Biologists are being found mysteriously
dead!

PHARMACEUTICAL companies are systematically creating diseases in order
to sell more of their products, turning healthy people into patients
and placing many at risk of harm, a special edition of a leading
medical journal claims today.

The practice of “disease-mongering” by the drug industry is promoting
non-existent illnesses or exaggerating minor ones for the sake of
profits, according to a set of essays published by the open-access
journal Public Library of Science Medicine.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2128371,00.html

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Palestinian Health Care Conditions Under Occupation

by Sonia Nettnin
April 10, 2006

GlobalResearch.ca

Members of the Ibdaa Health Committee are on tour in the US. They are
educating Americans on the devastating health conditions of
Palestinians and health care workers in the West Bank, East Jerusalem
and Gaza.

The facts on the ground are shocking, yet the international community
ignores Israel’s widespread violence and warfare against the
Palestinians. The violence against health care workers, the health care
system and the Palestinian infrastructure are equally appalling.

According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, 36 health care workers
have been killed, 447 health providers have been wounded and 129
patients have died at Israeli checkpoints. How? There have been 375
attacks on health care centers, 383 attacks on ambulances, with 38
ambulances destroyed altogether.

Palestinian women in labor have not been left out of the equation of
military occupation. Since September 28, 2000, at least 67 women have
given birth at Israeli checkpoints. As a result, 39 newborns died or
they were delivered stillborn.

According to a map from the Applied Research Institute Jerusalem there
are over 100 established checkpoints throughout the West Bank, an area
totaling 5,970 sq. km, and this figure does not include flying
checkpoints and barriers, such as roadblocks, razed roads, dirt mounds,
etc. When Israel completes construction of the wall, approximately 33
per cent of villages within the West Bank will be denied “…free and
open access to their health care system,” per the IHC. Moreover, 81 per
cent “…of people living in isolated zones and enclaves cannot access
primary health clinics, medical centers, and hospitals as needed.”

There are instances where Palestinians need access to urgent medical
care, but Israeli forces will not allow Palestinian ambulances to cross
the checkpoint. When this happens Palestinians are forced to transfer
to an Israeli ambulance, which costs anywhere from 350 New Israeli
Shekels (NIS) – 650 NIS ($80 USD – 150 USD). Keep in mind that an
estimated 50 per cent of Palestinians in the West Bank live below the
poverty line ($2 USD per person/day). The average unemployment rate for
Palestinians in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza combined is over
60 per cent. In essence, the Israeli occupation has created business
opportunities from Palestinians in need of urgent medical care that
already impoverishes Palestinian families who struggle to meet their
daily needs.

A Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) survey about the
effects of Israeli measures on the economic conditions of Palestinian
families found that 86 per cent of households decreased their spending
for food. Moreover, over 66 per cent of households surveyed decreased
their expenditures for health care. Some demographic factors for
consideration are that 46 per cent of Palestinian families are 14 years
of age or younger and 18 per cent of these families have children who
are under four years of age (PCBS – 2005 population results).

Another dimension to this grim picture is that the IHC found there has
been a decline in the quantity and quality of food in 73 per cent of
the West Bank and Gaza. A recent example is the 2006 closing of Karni
Crossing (Al-Mintar), which has resulted in severe shortages in food,
such as flour and rice. Since Palestinians can not export their goods,
such as peppers, tomatoes and carnations to Europe, it has resulted in
losses compounding into millions of dollars thereby crippling the
Palestinian economy. For the few days Israeli forces opened the
crossing, it operated at 10 per cent capacity. In the West Bank 83 per
cent of Palestinian families have difficulty accessing local and
commodity markets because of the wall.

Although US media reports explanatory reasons behind IDF operations
(they are targeting “terrorists,”), the US news fails to report that
the occupation and its ramifications target Palestinian youth, along
with the civil and governmental infrastructure they live in.

An online daily news source is Ma’an News Agency, which provides
up-to-the-minute news coverage of the Holy Land.

Ibdaa Health Committee

Members of the IHC toured the US to increase public awareness on the
Palestinian health care situation. They asked for American cooperation
and collaboration in future endeavors within the health care system.

Basically, they asked people to hold fundraisers and foundations to
consider funding medical equipment, medicines, patient, and child
sponsorship. Also they asked for physicians, nurses, psychologists,
social workers, sociologists, healthcare professionals, mental
healthcare professionals, and medical students interested in
volunteering their time and expertise to help with medical services and
training within the Palestinian health care system.

The IHC focused on Dheisheh Refugee camp, located outside of Bethlehem
because the members grew up in this area. IHC members are volunteers
who formed the committee to safeguard public health and improve the
overall health care situation. Some of the IHC’s objectives are to
provide a long-term, health educational program, establish a
psycho-social program, provide a nutritional counseling program,
establish a diabetes and education treatment center, establish an
ophthalmology center to provide eye examinations, corrective treatment
and prevention and establish a child abuse prevention center.

With regards to the 6,000 children living in Dheisheh over 95 per cent
of the camp’s children suffer from psycho-social problems. Although
several hundred children screened were diagnosed with poor vision, over
60 per cent came from families who could not afford to pay for
eyeglasses. These examples represent some of the effects occupation has
on children.

One of the members shared that allegedly some of Israel’s canned food
sold in Palestinian markets contains high levels of E211, also known as
sodium benzoate. In the US the FDA regulates that products with sodium
benzoate must contain less than .1 per cent. High levels of E211 in
preserved food can potentially affect peoples’ health and has raised
moderate concern from this US research group
http://www.inchem.org/documents/cicads/cicads/cicad26.htm

Since further research is needed, opportunities exist for both Israeli
and Palestinian medical and scientific researchers, as well as the
international community to collaborate on future endeavors for this
important public health situation.

A logical response might be that people should buy fresh food instead
of preserved food. The problem is how do Palestinians access
unreachable markets and jobs under occupation and where do money trees
grow so people can pay for it?

For the Palestinian farmers who still have olive and citrus orchards
Israeli bulldozers have uprooted over one million trees over the last
39 years as they continue colonizing Palestinian land.

For Palestinians, access to clean water is a crisis and here is why it
exists.

There are over four million Palestinians living in the West Bank and
Gaza. The Palestinian Ministry of Health has 23 hospitals and 799
hospital beds for the entire population. There are .71 nurses for every
hospital bed.

Although the IHC came to share the needs of Dheisheh and its 13,000
residents, this refugee camp represents the 59 refugee camps across the
West Bank and Gaza that have the same needs for medical and office
equipment and supplies. Here is additional information about the
challenges facing the Palestinian health care system from Jerusalem.

More information can be found at http://www.dheisheh-ibdaa.net and
their US Coordinator can be reached at lorir@unm.edu.

The Arabic word “Ibdaa” means “to create something out of nothing.”

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Declassifying Canada in Haiti:
Canadian officials planned military intervention
weeks before Haitian coup

By Anthony Fenton and Dru Oja Jay
April 10, 2006

dominionpaper.ca

Part I

Canadian officials planned military intervention weeks before Haitian
coup

Classified memos obtained by The Dominion through Access to Information
Act request raise new questions about the extent of Canadian
participation in the 2004 coup against Haiti's democratically elected
President Jean Bertrand Aristide.

Nine days before the February 29 coup that removed Aristide and
thousands of elected officials, then-minister Denis Coderre told the
Canadian Press that "it is clear that we don't want Aristide's head; we
believe that Aristide should stay."

In the same report, then-Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham claimed
that Canada was seeking to pressure Aristide to adopt a series of
measures to give the opposition more power in government.

Nine days earlier, on February 11th, Canadian Ambassador Kenneth Cook
sent a memo marked "Confidential" to the Privy Council Office and
Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade, with a subject
heading "Meeting with US Ambassador." Its contents suggest that Canada
was planning for the removal of the Aristide-led government while
officials publicly claimed to be attempting to reach a peaceful
agreement.

Cook wrote:

The situation we face is not only one of a struggle for power, it
involves a humanitarian crisis and the potential to permanently change
the course of Haitian history. President Aristide is clearly a serious
aggravating factor in the current crisis and unless he gives dramatic
early signs that he is implementing the CARICOM road map then the OAS,
CARICOM and possibly UN will have to consider the options including
whether a case can be made for the duty to protect.

Large portions of the memo, which discusses specific plans for military
intervention, are blacked out. Of the period requested, February 5 to
March 15 2004, Feb 20 to March 15 were omitted without explanation.

The "duty to protect" is another term for the controversial Canadian-
sponsored "responsibility to protect" (R2P) doctrine, which was adopted
as international doctrine without a vote by the UN General Assembly at
the UN World Summit in September 2005. Countries like Cuba and
Venezuela have strongly opposed the doctrine, saying that it gives
powerful countries freedom to intervene when they determine a state to
have "failed."

Notable Canadians involved in the drafting of the R2P doctrine were
Michael Ignatieff and Lloyd Axworthy. In his writings, academic-
turned-politician Ignatieff has praised the US as an "Empire Lite," and
supported the US-led war on Iraq. Axworthy was Canada's foreign affairs
Minister in 2000 when economic sanctions were levied against Haiti's
democratically elected government.

The R2P doctrine developed a framework for "threshold criteria for
military intervention," under the guise of "humanitarian intervention
for human protection." Under the core principles devised in this
doctrine, "the principle of non-intervention yields to the
international responsibility to protect."

Two "precautionary principles" of R2P stand out. First, that "the
primary purpose of the intervention...must be to halt or avert human
suffering," and second, that military intervention must only be used as
a last resort, "Military intervention can only be justified when every
non-military option... has been explored."

In this case, substantial evidence suggests that the crisis that
Ambassador Cook used to invoke the R2P was itself instigated by the US
State Department and other US and Canadian agencies. The US, Canadian,
and European Union-funded "civil society organizations" though lacking
in popular support, continually demanded that Aristide step down and
that their representatives be granted key positions in government. US,
Canadian and French diplomats insisted on opposition support for any
power-sharing agreement. Some critics claim that the three governments
knew that the opposition would not accept any agreement other than one
that gave them control.

According to many reports, the intervention itself, justified in memos
by the R2P doctrine, had the effect of multiplying and aggravating the
humanitarian crisis. An April 2004 human rights report prepared by the
National Lawyers Guild (NLG) found that "the multinational force of
3,600 soldiers... was not functioning to protect supporters of
President Aristide or prevent killings, kidnappings, and arsons
directed at this supporters."

The NLG met with the Director of the State Morgue in Port au Prince,
and reported that "The Director admitted that 800 bodies were 'dumped
and buried' by morgue on Sunday, March 7, 2004, and another 200 bodies
dumped on Sunday, March 28, 2004. The 'usual' amount dumped is less
than 100 per month."

A March 2005 Harvard University Law School report, "Keeping the Peace
in Haiti?" contended that the UN military force, MINUSTAH, "has
effectively provided cover for the police to wage a campaign of terror
in Port au Prince's slums." Having discovered evidence of a mass grave,
the human rights delegation found MINUSTAH officials aware but
unwilling to investigate the "clandestine gravesite." Canadian UN
police (UNPOL) Commissioner David Beer, while ackowledging such that
grave sites were "a point of contention" said that the grave found by
"was not an active case being investigated."

According to other government documents acquired by The Dominion, Denis
Paradis organized a January 2003 meeting "in the spirit of the
responsibility to protect." The secret, high level roundtable was
dubbed the Ottawa Initiative on Haiti. Details of this meeting were
leaked in a March 15, 2003 edition of l'Actualité, by reporter Michel
Vastel. Vastel wrote then that the theme of "Aristide must go," along
with the possibility of a "Kosovo-model" trusteeship over Haiti, were
discussed by members of the Canadian, French, and US governments, along
with representatives from the Organization of American States (OAS).

In an effort to control the damage of the media leak, the Canadian
government issued a release denying that regime change or a trusteeship
were discussed at this meeting.

Part II

Did Canada have plans to support another military coup in Haiti?

According to classified memos obtained by The Dominion through an
Access to Information Act request, Canadian officials speculated about
working with Haiti's dreaded former military in the weeks before the
coup d'état that removed elected President Aristide and thousands of
elected officials.

Eighteen days before the military intervention, Canadian Ambassador to
Haiti Kenneth Cook wrote of the paramilitary groups that had entered
the country days earlier from the Dominican Republic:

There is clearly a military hand in the planning of current
anti-government insurrectional events but it is very difficult to say
[what] the potential for bringing together a significant force based on
the former armed forces [is]. To date it is not considered likely but
if someone like Senator (former Major) Dany Toussaint with support of
Col. Himmler Rebu were to intervene the scenario would be quite
different.

The heavily censored memos acquired by The Dominion leave some doubt as
to Cook's intent. In the context of Cook's other comments blaming
Aristide for the crisis, however, the Ambassador seems to be suggesting
that Haiti's former military, led by Dany Toussaint, could be used to
put an end to the crisis. The subsequent (post-coup) integration of
former military personnel and officers into the Haitian National Police
under the oversight of Canada's RCMP lends further credence to this
interpretation.

Variously, Toussaint had been alleged to have involvement in
narcotrafficking, ties to the CIA, and a possible role in the murder of
radio journalist Jean Dominique. In the 1980s, he received training at
the Fort Benning, Georgia "School of the Americas." In 2001, then
Republican Congressman Porter Goss wrote to Secretary of State Colin
Powell that Toussaint is "credibly linked by a number of US government
agencies to narcotics trafficking in Haiti."

Interviewed two days after the coup against Aristide, Toussaint
referred to paramilitary leader Guy Philippe as "a brave man who has
worked for his country." Phillipe is known for his own ties to
narco-trafficking, his alleged involvement in murders and at least two
previous coup attempts against Aristide, as well as his affinity for
former President Ronald Reagan and Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet.

Both Philippe and Toussaint would run for President in 2006, garnering
few votes. Both Toussaint and Himmler Rebu agitated with the US- and
European-funded "Democratic Platform," demanding the ouster of
Aristide.

The former military that Cook refers to is widely acknowledged to be
responsible for massive human rights violations, including murder,
torture, political repression, and overthrowing a previous
democratically elected government. The Haitian military was created
during an American military occupation of Haiti during WWI, and
disbanded by then-President Aristide in 1994.

Again invoking the "responsibility to protect" (R2P, see part I) theme,
Cook describes the situation in Northern Haiti. According to his
intelligence sources, "Cap Haitien has become the scene of much
violence, stores and banks are closed as are gas stations. The city is
for all practical purposes isolated... A solution will have to be found
to avoid a humanitarian crisis." Several paragraphs are then censored,
followed by: "This is a complicating factor in any consideration of
options for a stabilizing police presence here."

Extensive censorship raises as many questions as are addressed by the
documents. 25 days of requested documents--from Feb 20 to March
15--were simply omitted without explanation.

Cook's references to the use of military force to remove Aristide,
however, fly in the face of the official story. Nine days after Cook's
memo, Canadian ministers Graham and Coderre were telling the press that
Canada was seeking a peaceful settlement to the crisis, which was
largely instigated by Canadian-, US- and European-funded groups within
Haiti. Those countries backed the unelected government after it was
imposed, and avoided acknowledging evidence of widespread political
repression and human rights abuses.

The limited historical perpective available two years after the coup
also raises serious questions about the use of the "responsibility to
protect" doctrine. Rather than avert a crisis, foreign military
intervention in Haiti became the backdrop for a major escalation of
atrocities, with thousands killed, hundreds jailed for their political
views, and thousands more forced into hiding after the coup.

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:25:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Urgent Request! TO ANYONE OR EVERYONE!

Please go to www.signsofthetimes.org You might find there an interesting article about the recent capitol fiasco!

Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote: Does anybody have any knowledge of upcoming drills for "terrorist" activity?

Considering the KOOKOOS in district of criminals (Washington DC) are having media whores trumpet using mini nukes on Iran, this is the most dangerous timing for another larger false flag.

Not endorsing the ACLU but

Eternal Vigilance is the the price of freedom........have you paid?

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:29:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Jew Baiting

PLEASE! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!! I echo Naveed's request! I CANNOT STRESS how IMPERATIVE this is!

Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote: for the sake of clarity and stopping the creation of animosity,

PLEASE MAKE THAT DISTINCTION!!

Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:
v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } From: Leslie Schwartz
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] Jew Baiting

Its not about Israel not even a little bit about Israel for those with the power to make things happen, Mossad just knew it was going to happen and was on hand to see it go down. They have wanted the US to get involved in policing the middle east for a long time, but that is not why the event happened.

Leslie Schwartz, yes I am Jewish and if don’t like it you know what you can do about it.

Lets see Eastman prove just one if his hate based contentions, as you said below, prove to us Eastman that no one of Jewish ethnicity or decent was killed in the 9/11/01 attack. If you can prove that point Eastman then shut up and talk about what you can prove.

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Dear Leslie,

I am not in a position to prove that no one of Jewish ethnicity or decent was killed in 9/11/01 attack. The sampling of names I have seen (e.g. the long series on WTC deaths biographies that thre New York Times ran) showed very few Jewish names in my sampling -- not the high ratio of Jewish names I would expect for New York City and the hub of finance and world trade. I do take the word of several sources on the internet that only two Israelis died. But no proof that there were no Jews killed at WTC -- only indications that there were too few than one would expect.

Some of the greatest people in the world have been Jewish -- I have known great acts of mercy and generosity by Jews -- paying for an operation for my brother, simply because he wanted to. My favorite college professor -- my model of a good man -- is Jewish (Dr. Richard Glassman at LFC)

I often say "Jews" when the just discrimination would narrow that to Mossad, or Zionists, or Neo-cons, or Likudniks -- or even more justly I should have narrowed it to this or that individual --

so I am in the wrong -- but I am also mindful that I force Jews to ask themselves -- "is he right about me?" "am I allowing myself to be a part of or to go along with what Eastman is pointing out (Neo-con Zionist guilt for 9-11)

Here is a letter that will interest you:

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Hello, Al.

Do you think 9-11 was an inside job?

If so, do you think Zionist's in the White House, Pentagon, Israel
had anything to do with it?

Do you think their Zionism was a large part of their motivation?

I answer "yes" to all three questions and I have what I think
is ample proof of each point.

I never claimed to be sane or to know what sanity is -- but I
understand evidence and can reach the logical implications
that follow from sufficiently complete evidence.

Any time you want to discuss the message and what it is
based on, rather than the messenger -- I will be happy to
walk you through what I have found.

Here is a sample:

http://bedoper.com/eastman

I trust you are still the great investigator you were when we corresponded so long ago.

Maybe in better -- saner -- times we will compare notes again. I could only gain.

Warm regards,

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washinton

P.S. as for the impotence of internet posting -- I am taken in by chaos theory
and that one-quintillion-to-one shot that I just may be the little butterfly who
could. flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap ... --DE

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To: <foo@foobar.com>; <anti-capitalism@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <Conspiracy-Theory@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:48 PM
Subject: [A-C] Re: Joni Ferris nails self-important Jew hater Dick Eastman

...

Yes, Joni, it does seem that Dick has become a rabid Jew-hater
over the past several years. It was not always so. I have observed
his posts over many months on anti-capitalism, as well as long ago
(5 years ago) on other lists. It seems that the stress of his life
(which has been considerable), combined with a latent inner
scapegoat-ism and perhaps xenophobia (characteristic of
right-wingers), has precipitated a psychic degeneration into
Paranoid Personality Disorder (see below) with a special
Jew-hating spin.

(Note that I say "Jew-hating" rather than "anti-semitic". The
bigtime anti-semitism in the world today is amongst the Zionists,
the "Christian" Zionists, and other muslim-haters. Jew-hating is a
special, narrow type of anti-semitism which ought to be
distinguished from its parent.)

It seems that Dick, like G L Rockwell (founder of the American
Nazi Party), has yielded to "the ageless impulse of men and women
eaten by the disease of hatred to find a political expression or
rationalization for their malady":

. http://www.salon.com/books/review/1999/07/19/simonelli/ ---
. "[Rockwell] drank too much, battled depression, was left by
. several wives, became estranged from his family and spun further
. and further out of control; you'll wince at the passages in which
. his goodhearted brother and William F. Buckley, whom Rockwell
. hounded, try to get him help. In the succinct summation from a
. 1967 volume that that Simonelli cites, Rockwell gave in to 'the
. ageless impulse of men and women eaten by the disease of hatred to
. find a political expression or rationalization for their malady.'"

I've watched this degeneration in several other people. Some of
them were quite acute thinkers and great writers, until their
deterioration set in. In some cases it is hard to account for it.
Though in Dick's case it is not so hard; he has been quite open
about the extreme stresses of his personal life. That, combined as
I say with a latent tendency, has added up to his current
relentless stream of semi-demented anti-Jewish ravings and
screechings. The anti-capitalism yahoo list has become a cesspool,
unfortunately -- and largely on his account. What we have here is
the anti-capitalism of Goebbels and Himmler, sputtering barely
coherently about Jewish bankers' conspiracies. (And yes, Jewish
bankers ARE an important aspect of this mess; just that their
badness does not inhere in their Jewishness.)

There was something in me, years ago (circa 2001), that flashed a
warning sign, and I removed Dick from my email list and generally
cut off communication. Somehow I sensed what was to come. And it
came! Oh, brother, did it come.

The paranoia was evident in years past. For example, if a message
of his was held up for a few hours, or just did not get through,
he would immediately conclude that it was because "they" were out
to get him, and were denying him access to the chat boards or
whatever. Of course, it IS possible that "they" (the
establishment) might shut down people who are saying things that
they do not like. Indeed it has actually happened, and I expect
that it will happen increasingly. But for someone with insight, it
is very unlikely that "they" would so selectively target a single
individual -- an individual with NO power, purchase or credibility
in the circles where it counts. In other words, you'd have to be a
tad nuts, or at least seriously lacking in insight, to think that
"they" would go out of their way to shut you down when you are
(pardon me) a pipsqueak ranter from Lower Bumfuck, Nebraska,
posting on a list with 323 pipsqueak members like you and me. Yes,
"they" exist -- and they don't give a good God Damn about
Yahoo-group yahoos like us. Sorry.

In charity, I will grant that the capitalist system generally does
tend to make people crazy. The stress, combined with the toxic
diet and outright environmental toxins, combined with the sense of
powerlessness (based on the REALITY of powerlessness), combined
with some personal bad breaks, can drive people nuts. Not hard to
understand.

And, perhaps Dick's personal degeneration was in some measure
fueled by the actual (inexcusable) behavior of radical Zionists,
Likudniks and the like, who persistently refuse to take
responsibility, and who deny their (very real and not just
incidental) role in the current mess. Witness the brouhaha just
the last week or two over the Mearsheimer/Walt piece. The Israel
lobby not only does not want to take any responsibility, it wants
to deny its own existence! THAT can drive people nuts, too.

Alan

PS: Note that Paranoid Personality Disorder (below) is NOT
paranoid psychosis, with loss of contact with reality. Personality
disorders are characterized by a somewhat tenuous grasp of reality
(shall we say: "creative" personal representations of it!) -- not
with a loss of contact with it. It is more of a personal
mind-style than a "disease"; see Hofstader's fine article:
The Paranoid Style in American Politics
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anti-capitalism/message/18977

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http://mentalhelp.net/disorders/sx37.htm

Paranoid Personality Disorder

A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their
motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early
adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by
four (or more) of the following:

1. suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting,
harming, or deceiving him or her

2. is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or
trustworthiness of friends or associates

3. is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear
that the information will be used maliciously against him or her

4. reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign
remarks or events

5. persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults,
injuries, or slights

6. perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that
are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to
counterattack

7. has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding
fidelity of spouse or sexual partner

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Criteria summarized from: American Psychiatric Association.
(1994). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders,
fourth edition. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Association.

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:32:11 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
From: "Cait" <ansith@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Urgent Request! TO ANYONE OR EVERYONE!

That link didn't work for me, do you have a different one?

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From: Kevin Hammond
Date: 04/11/06 15:27:39
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Urgent Request! TO ANYONE OR EVERYONE!

Please go to www.signsofthetimes.org You might find there an interesting
article about the recent capitol fiasco!

Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:
Does anybody have any knowledge of upcoming drills for "terrorist" activity?

Considering the KOOKOOS in district of criminals (Washington DC) are having
media whores trumpet using mini nukes on Iran, this is the most dangerous
timing for another larger false flag.

Not endorsing the ACLU but

Eternal Vigilance is the the price of freedom........have you paid?

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:31:45 -0000
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Jew Baiting

ZERO Israeli citizen WTC employees were killed on 9/11. Mossad isn't
responsible for American Jews and it would have been incredibly
difficult to find them.

The information below came from the New York Israeli consul, the
original NYT URL is

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/22/nyregion/22NUMB.html?
ex=1143781200&en=6096a356671beec7&ei=5070

Conspiracy planet

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?
channelid=112&contentid=1522&page=2

"Finally, on Sept. 22, the New York Times stated "There were, in
fact, only three Israelis who had been confirmed as dead: two on the
planes and another who had been visiting the towers on business and
who was identified and buried."

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Leslie Schwartz"
<lhs_emf@...> wrote:
>
> Entirely true.
>
>
>
> Also, not all Neocons are Jewish, most are not.
>
>
>
> AS RFK said it is the, "the enemy within".
>
>
>
> He was referring to the thugs who infest the US covert black ops
agencies
> who are the decedents of Reich wing Nazis from the paperclip
operation - who
> have been meddling in our domestic politics since the end of WWII,
and
> assassinating progressives for decades, including a president, and
running
> operations within the US as they did in Italy to move their
politics way
> over to the right.
>
>
>
> Those are the scum who were willing to carry out 9/11/01. People
who would
> have you believe they are good loyal super-patriots, and not a Jew
among
> them.
>
>
>
> If you really want to know what these people are all about read
some of John
> Loftus' books. Lets see, John Loftus or Dick Eastman? Who you gonna
believe?
>
>
>
> Big surprise, for these fascists who carried out 9/11/01 its all
about the
> power and the money. Its not about Israel not even a little bit
about Israel
> for those with the power to make things happen, Mossad just knew it
was
> going to happen and was on hand to see it go down. They have wanted
the US
> to get involved in policing the middle east for a long time, but
that is not
> why the event happened.
>
>
>
> Leslie Schwartz, yes I am Jewish and if don't like it you know what
you can
> do about it.
>
>
>
> Also, Eastman is a fool, he is a consummate nothing. By promoting
stupid
> easily refuted ideas he makes ALL of his efforts worthless. His
hatred which
> is misplaced clouds his view and destroys the possible value of his
other
> efforts.
>
>
>
> Lets see Eastman prove just one if his hate based contentions, as
you said
> below, prove to us Eastman that no one of Jewish ethnicity or
decent was
> killed in the 9/11/01 attack. If you can prove that point Eastman
then shut
> up and talk about what you can prove.
>
>
>
> As an American of Jewish decent I do not blame Palestinians, or
Arabs or
> Moslems of any nationality for 9/11/01, it's the lying corporate
media and
> the GW Bush administration who has put forward that lie, blaming the
> victims, BushCo along with some spineless Democratic party weasels
as well.
>
>
>
> This board definitely needs to be moderated to weed out the time
wasting
> deluded haters like Eastman.
>
>
>
> I am not going to waste much more time here with a dialog of this
low
> character.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Ray Antoky
> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 9:23 AM
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [911TruthAction] Jew Baiting
>
>
>
> Eastman is the consummate disinformation artist who has the
effrontery
> to blame Jews and the mossad for 9/11. His smoking gun is the
dancing
> Israelis on the rooftop, a classic ploy by the perps to incriminate
> Jews as patsies. Then he has the nerve to imply that no Jews died
at
> the WTC.
> http://www.thejewishweek.com/bottom/specialcontent.php3?artid=365
> Wrong again as the above article indicates.
> And Jolly Roger is also wrong. While there may be Jewish people
> involved in crime there are also other ethnic groups involved in
crime.
> Blaming a whole group of people for the crimes of a few is
> disingenuous.It seems this group exists as a Jew bashing forum
which is
> not the implication of its title.
> Maybe Eastman should start his own group. He will surely find
kindred
> spirits to succumb to his brand of lunacy.
> Ray Antoky
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:38:35 -0000
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Jew Baiting

It does matter if five Mossad agents were caught red handed
celebrating the collapse of the towers with traces of explosives in
their van. They failed several lie detector tests and the boss of the
company fled to Israel. The fact that an Israeli company was warned
before the attacks matters too.

The main beneficiary of the Iraq war was Israel and the only
beneficiary of the racist war on terror is Israel. It matters.

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Leslie Schwartz"
<lhs_emf@...> wrote:
>
> For anyone who actually cares about the truth to this continuing
misinformation being promoted here again by Eastman, (Eastman:
> essentially "my sampling - few Jews killed at the WTC 9/11/01")
check out the following.
>
> Here is a list of the names of those who died in the WTC. As a Jew,
I know what names are likely Jewish and which are not. I am not
> going to go thru all of them one by one and tell you which are
which. If you have been around a bit you will know on your own.
>
> Highlight the names to see the full name, very roughly at least 1/3
(conservatively) are Jewish.
>
> http://www.9-11heroes.us/victims-world-trade-center.php
>
> Here is another discussion of this issue, with more links and an
analysis of the misinformation Eastman continues to spew. The
> estimate here is between 400 - 500 people of Jewish decent died in
the WTC towers on 9/11/01. There are a series of articles
> debunking these lies via this link.
>
> http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=331277
>
> Moreover this issue, the tragedy which 9/11 is and represents does
not have a dam thing to do with who is Jewish and who is not or
> how the events occurred or why they occurred again has nothing to
do with Jews or Jewishness or Israel, or American Jews, or French
> Jews, or German Jews, etc. As I told you before its about money and
power. AGAIN, if you really want to have the background history
> to understand this event read John Loftus, read Webster Tarpley.
Educate yourself, don't be lazy, don't indulge in your prejudices.
> Learn that lesson and it will take you a long way in life. That is
the most important lesson anyone can take from this discussion.
>
> Dick, if you really cared about the truth you would investigate the
truth about it and stop the lies. Are you admitting now below to
> laziness' rather than hatred? If that is your excuse, then ask
yourself if that is the standard you really want to live by and use
> as a guide for your efforts in this or any or important study when
you communicate with others about the important issues they
> should be aware of. You could not prove your assertion on this
issue but yet you repeated it again. What conclusion are we to draw
> from that I wonder?
>
> Your statements have been shameful, stupid and most of all wrong.
You ought to know that Jewish people like myself love this country
> as much as you do and we fight and die for it and have done so
throughout its history, and we devote ourselves to this country as
> much as you obviously think you do.
>
> But there is one big difference between all of us (who are rational
and concerned) and you, as one of a group of haters who have
> been writing in this caliber of trash to this message board. We
don't call people names based on race or religion, we don't make up
> stupid theories about history based on simpleton ideas and
misinformation. We have learned the hard way not to keep hate in our
> hearts and we have learned just how thoughtless and dangerous it is
to go about life that way. We have seen the results and we don't
> want to see them again, no matter who the victim might be next
time. We take the time to learn and to understand and to be as
> accurate and honest with ourselves and others as we can be and if
we do not know the truth we research it honestly and keep our
> mouths shut until we do know the truth, rather than go about
repeatedly making baseless statements which prove our ignorance to
> others.
>
> Dick, take the time when you write and think about these topic to
make distinctions that are truly meaningful and accurate and
> constructive. When you do that we will all be grateful for your
efforts.
>
> Leslie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dick Eastman
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:48 PM
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [911TruthAction] Fw: Jew Baiting
>
>
> From: Leslie Schwartz
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:55 PM
> Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] Jew Baiting
>
>
>
>
> Its not about Israel not even a little bit about Israel for those
with the power to make things happen, Mossad just knew it was
> going to happen and was on hand to see it go down. They have wanted
the US to get involved in policing the middle east for a long
> time, but that is not why the event happened.
>
>
>
> Leslie Schwartz, yes I am Jewish and if don't like it you know
what you can do about it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Lets see Eastman prove just one if his hate based contentions, as
you said below, prove to us Eastman that no one of Jewish
> ethnicity or decent was killed in the 9/11/01 attack. If you can
prove that point Eastman then shut up and talk about what you can
> prove.
>
>
>
> ----
>
>
>
> Dear Leslie,
>
>
>
> I am not in a position to prove that no one of Jewish ethnicity
or decent was killed in 9/11/01 attack. The sampling of names I
> have seen (e.g. the long series on WTC deaths biographies that thre
New York Times ran) showed very few Jewish names in my
> ampling -- not the high ratio of Jewish names I would expect for
New York City and the hub of finance and world trade. I do take
> the word of several sources on the internet that only two Israelis
died. But no proof that there were no Jews killed at WTC -- only
> indications that there were too few than one would expect.
>
>
>
> Some of the greatest people in the world have been Jewish -- I
have known great acts of mercy and generosity by Jews -- paying
> for an operation for my brother, simply because he wanted to. My
favorite college professor -- my model of a good man -- is Jewish
> (Dr. Richard Glassman at LFC)
>
>
>
> I often say "Jews" when the just discrimination would narrow that
to Mossad, or Zionists, or Neo-cons, or Likudniks -- or even
> more justly I should have narrowed it to this or that individual --
>
>
>
> so I am in the wrong -- but I am also mindful that I force Jews
to ask themselves -- "is he right about me?" "am I allowing
> myself to be a part of or to go along with what Eastman is pointing
out (Neo-con Zionist guilt for 9-11)
>
>
>
> Here is a letter that will interest you:
>
>
>
> =================
>
>
>
> Hello, Al.
>
> Do you think 9-11 was an inside job?
>
> If so, do you think Zionist's in the White House, Pentagon, Israel
> had anything to do with it?
>
> Do you think their Zionism was a large part of their motivation?
>
> I answer "yes" to all three questions and I have what I think
> is ample proof of each point.
>
> I never claimed to be sane or to know what sanity is -- but I
> understand evidence and can reach the logical implications
> that follow from sufficiently complete evidence.
>
> Any time you want to discuss the message and what it is
> based on, rather than the messenger -- I will be happy to
> walk you through what I have found.
>
> Here is a sample:
>
> http://bedoper.com/eastman
>
> I trust you are still the great investigator you were when we
corresponded so long ago.
>
> Maybe in better -- saner -- times we will compare notes again. I
could only gain.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Dick Eastman
> Yakima, Washinton
>
> P.S. as for the impotence of internet posting -- I am taken in
by chaos theory
> and that one-quintillion-to-one shot that I just may be the
little butterfly who
> could. flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap ... --DE
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <aelewis@...>
> To: <foo@...>; <anti-capitalism@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: <Conspiracy-Theory@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:48 PM
> Subject: [A-C] Re: Joni Ferris nails self-important Jew hater
Dick Eastman
>
>
> ...
>
> Yes, Joni, it does seem that Dick has become a rabid Jew-hater
> over the past several years. It was not always so. I have observed
> his posts over many months on anti-capitalism, as well as long ago
> (5 years ago) on other lists. It seems that the stress of his life
> (which has been considerable), combined with a latent inner
> scapegoat-ism and perhaps xenophobia (characteristic of
> right-wingers), has precipitated a psychic degeneration into
> Paranoid Personality Disorder (see below) with a special
> Jew-hating spin.
>
> (Note that I say "Jew-hating" rather than "anti-semitic". The
> bigtime anti-semitism in the world today is amongst the Zionists,
> the "Christian" Zionists, and other muslim-haters. Jew-hating is a
> special, narrow type of anti-semitism which ought to be
> distinguished from its parent.)
>
> It seems that Dick, like G L Rockwell (founder of the American
> Nazi Party), has yielded to "the ageless impulse of men and women
> eaten by the disease of hatred to find a political expression or
> rationalization for their malady":
>
> . http://www.salon.com/books/review/1999/07/19/simonelli/ ---
> . "[Rockwell] drank too much, battled depression, was left by
> . several wives, became estranged from his family and spun
further
> . and further out of control; you'll wince at the passages in
which
> . his goodhearted brother and William F. Buckley, whom Rockwell
> . hounded, try to get him help. In the succinct summation from a
> . 1967 volume that that Simonelli cites, Rockwell gave in to 'the
> . ageless impulse of men and women eaten by the disease of
hatred to
> . find a political expression or rationalization for their
malady.'"
>
> I've watched this degeneration in several other people. Some of
> them were quite acute thinkers and great writers, until their
> deterioration set in. In some cases it is hard to account for it.
> Though in Dick's case it is not so hard; he has been quite open
> about the extreme stresses of his personal life. That, combined as
> I say with a latent tendency, has added up to his current
> relentless stream of semi-demented anti-Jewish ravings and
> screechings. The anti-capitalism yahoo list has become a cesspool,
> unfortunately -- and largely on his account. What we have here is
> the anti-capitalism of Goebbels and Himmler, sputtering barely
> coherently about Jewish bankers' conspiracies. (And yes, Jewish
> bankers ARE an important aspect of this mess; just that their
> badness does not inhere in their Jewishness.)
>
> There was something in me, years ago (circa 2001), that flashed a
> warning sign, and I removed Dick from my email list and generally
> cut off communication. Somehow I sensed what was to come. And it
> came! Oh, brother, did it come.
>
> The paranoia was evident in years past. For example, if a message
> of his was held up for a few hours, or just did not get through,
> he would immediately conclude that it was because "they" were out
> to get him, and were denying him access to the chat boards or
> whatever. Of course, it IS possible that "they" (the
> establishment) might shut down people who are saying things that
> they do not like. Indeed it has actually happened, and I expect
> that it will happen increasingly. But for someone with insight, it
> is very unlikely that "they" would so selectively target a single
> individual -- an individual with NO power, purchase or credibility
> in the circles where it counts. In other words, you'd have to be a
> tad nuts, or at least seriously lacking in insight, to think that
> "they" would go out of their way to shut you down when you are
> (pardon me) a pipsqueak ranter from Lower Bumfuck, Nebraska,
> posting on a list with 323 pipsqueak members like you and me. Yes,
> "they" exist -- and they don't give a good God Damn about
> Yahoo-group yahoos like us. Sorry.
>
> In charity, I will grant that the capitalist system generally does
> tend to make people crazy. The stress, combined with the toxic
> diet and outright environmental toxins, combined with the sense of
> powerlessness (based on the REALITY of powerlessness), combined
> with some personal bad breaks, can drive people nuts. Not hard to
> understand.
>
> And, perhaps Dick's personal degeneration was in some measure
> fueled by the actual (inexcusable) behavior of radical Zionists,
> Likudniks and the like, who persistently refuse to take
> responsibility, and who deny their (very real and not just
> incidental) role in the current mess. Witness the brouhaha just
> the last week or two over the Mearsheimer/Walt piece. The Israel
> lobby not only does not want to take any responsibility, it wants
> to deny its own existence! THAT can drive people nuts, too.
>
> Alan
>
> PS: Note that Paranoid Personality Disorder (below) is NOT
> paranoid psychosis, with loss of contact with reality. Personality
> disorders are characterized by a somewhat tenuous grasp of reality
> (shall we say: "creative" personal representations of it!) -- not
> with a loss of contact with it. It is more of a personal
> mind-style than a "disease"; see Hofstader's fine article:
> The Paranoid Style in American Politics
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anti-capitalism/message/18977
>
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>
> http://mentalhelp.net/disorders/sx37.htm
>
> Paranoid Personality Disorder
>
> A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their
> motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early
> adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by
> four (or more) of the following:
>
> 1. suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting,
> harming, or deceiving him or her
>
> 2. is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or
> trustworthiness of friends or associates
>
> 3. is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear
> that the information will be used maliciously against him or her
>
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> remarks or events
>
> 5. persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults,
> injuries, or slights
>
> 6. perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that
> are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to
> counterattack
>
> 7. has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding
> fidelity of spouse or sexual partner
>
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>
> Criteria summarized from: American Psychiatric Association.
> (1994). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders,
> fourth edition. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Association.
>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:41:05 -0700
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
Subject: [Bush_Be_Gone] Mr. Bush, We Know What You Did That Summer ! - September 11th, 2001

Please se the original article for links to each fact listed below.
Scott

http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=351

Mr. Bush, We Know What You Did That Summer ! - September 11th, 2001

An Open Letter to: Mr. George W. Bush, Mr. Richard Cheney, Members of
PNAC and your supporting cast:

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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:54:21 -0700
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Fw: Jew Baiting

Can you share your data to prove that the main beneficiary of 9/11 is
Israel?

I’m looking at Halliburton, root and Brown, I’m looking at The Carlyle
group, I am looking at the US Military Industrial Complex, I am looking at
the World Trade organization, I am looking at the World health Organization.

Now, some citizens of Israel might be in one of these groups, but when you
say Mossad, you are telling me that Israel attacked the USA, and 5 men with
a vans that had trace amounts of explosives is suspect but…. A van full of
C-4 placed in THREE WYTC towers, to bring them down as controlled
demolition.

I have heard from someone that survived the destruction of their work place
about construction work that had gone on there for the three previous
months, but please, share your data, and give your theories, hopefully,
separating the proven hard facts from speculation.

Oh yes, I saw the Colonel in charge of Norad for that are, interviewed just
after the first tower was hit, I heard him say that his superior ordered him
to ground, not fuel or arm any of his planes unless given further orders.

Also, several years later the data came out that Cheney’s secure undisclosed
place was the control room of Norad, as his control amounted to continually
telling the operators there to let the aircraft through, to issue to
warnings to the apparent targets and especially to not let any of our armed
aircraft into the air that might interfere.

I am dying to see your data showing that Cheney is Mossad, I want to be
present at the execution.

Scott

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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:39 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
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The main beneficiary of the Iraq war was Israel and the only
beneficiary of the racist war on terror is Israel. It matters.

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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:25:36 -0000
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Jew Baiting

Can you share your data to prove that the main beneficiary of 9/11 is
Israel?

Iraq and Iran are/were the two biggest threats to the state of
Israel's existence. The Jewish lobby and the Israeli government
screamed loudest for the war

I'm looking at Halliburton, root and Brown, I'm looking at The
Carlyle group, I am looking at the US Military Industrial Complex, I
am looking at the World Trade organization, I am looking at the World
health Organization.

Yes, American criminals benefited too. Americans also helped with
9/11 they deserved some payback, don't you think ?

It's white hot suspect, absolutely correct, couldn't be much hotter.
Israeli spies selling paintings were found to have addresses close to
the hijackers, this was reported on Fox news.

A van full of C-4 placed in THREE WYTC towers, to bring them down as
controlled demolition.

I don't understand that.

I have heard from someone that survived the destruction of their work
place about construction work that had gone on there for the three
previous months, but please, share your data, and give your theories,
hopefully, separating the proven hard facts from speculation.

I don't understand that either

Oh yes, I saw the Colonel in charge of Norad for that are,
interviewed just after the first tower was hit, I heard him say that
his superior ordered him to ground, not fuel or arm any of his planes
unless given further orders.

Really, I didn't hear that.

Also, several years later the data came out that Cheney's secure
undisclosed place was the control room of Norad, as his control
amounted to continually telling the operators there to let the
aircraft through, to issue to warnings to the apparent targets and
especially to not let any of our armed aircraft into the air that
might interfere.

Yes I understood that.

I am dying to see your data showing that Cheney is Mossad, I want to
be present at the execution.

Cheney isn't even an israeli citizen, he's actually American. he is a
neocon and a member of the PNAC, both predominantly Jewish in
character.

Scott

Eric

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@...>
wrote:
>
> Can you share your data to prove that the main beneficiary of 9/11
is
> Israel?
>
> I'm looking at Halliburton, root and Brown, I'm looking at The
Carlyle
> group, I am looking at the US Military Industrial Complex, I am
looking at
> the World Trade organization, I am looking at the World health
Organization.
>
> Now, some citizens of Israel might be in one of these groups, but
when you
> say Mossad, you are telling me that Israel attacked the USA, and 5
men with
> a vans that had trace amounts of explosives is suspect but…. A van
full of
> C-4 placed in THREE WYTC towers, to bring them down as controlled
> demolition.
>
> I have heard from someone that survived the destruction of their
work place
> about construction work that had gone on there for the three
previous
> months, but please, share your data, and give your theories,
hopefully,
> separating the proven hard facts from speculation.
>
> Oh yes, I saw the Colonel in charge of Norad for that are,
interviewed just
> after the first tower was hit, I heard him say that his superior
ordered him
> to ground, not fuel or arm any of his planes unless given further
orders.
>
> Also, several years later the data came out that Cheney's secure
undisclosed
> place was the control room of Norad, as his control amounted to
continually
> telling the operators there to let the aircraft through, to issue to
> warnings to the apparent targets and especially to not let any of
our armed
> aircraft into the air that might interfere.
>
> I am dying to see your data showing that Cheney is Mossad, I want
to be
> present at the execution.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of scol202
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:39 PM
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Fw: Jew Baiting
>
> It does matter if five Mossad agents were caught red handed
> celebrating the collapse of the towers with traces of explosives in
> their van. They failed several lie detector tests and the boss of
the
> company fled to Israel. The fact that an Israeli company was warned
> before the attacks matters too.
>
> The main beneficiary of the Iraq war was Israel and the only
> beneficiary of the racist war on terror is Israel. It matters.
>
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Leslie Schwartz"
> <lhs_emf@> wrote:
> >
> > For anyone who actually cares about the truth to this continuing
> misinformation being promoted here again by Eastman, (Eastman:
> > essentially "my sampling - few Jews killed at the WTC 9/11/01")
> check out the following.
> >
> > Here is a list of the names of those who died in the WTC. As a
Jew,
> I know what names are likely Jewish and which are not. I am not
> > going to go thru all of them one by one and tell you which are
> which. If you have been around a bit you will know on your own.
> >
> > Highlight the names to see the full name, very roughly at least
1/3
> (conservatively) are Jewish.
> >
> > http://www.9-11heroes.us/victims-world-trade-center.php
> >
> > Here is another discussion of this issue, with more links and an
> analysis of the misinformation Eastman continues to spew. The
> > estimate here is between 400 - 500 people of Jewish decent died in
> the WTC towers on 9/11/01. There are a series of articles
> > debunking these lies via this link.
> >
> > http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=331277
> >
> > Moreover this issue, the tragedy which 9/11 is and represents does
> not have a dam thing to do with who is Jewish and who is not or
> > how the events occurred or why they occurred again has nothing to
> do with Jews or Jewishness or Israel, or American Jews, or French
> > Jews, or German Jews, etc. As I told you before its about money
and
> power. AGAIN, if you really want to have the background history
> > to understand this event read John Loftus, read Webster Tarpley.
> Educate yourself, don't be lazy, don't indulge in your prejudices.
> > Learn that lesson and it will take you a long way in life. That is
> the most important lesson anyone can take from this discussion.
> >
> > Dick, if you really cared about the truth you would investigate
the
> truth about it and stop the lies. Are you admitting now below to
> > laziness' rather than hatred? If that is your excuse, then ask
> yourself if that is the standard you really want to live by and use
> > as a guide for your efforts in this or any or important study when
> you communicate with others about the important issues they
> > should be aware of. You could not prove your assertion on this
> issue but yet you repeated it again. What conclusion are we to draw
> > from that I wonder?
> >
> > Your statements have been shameful, stupid and most of all wrong.
> You ought to know that Jewish people like myself love this country
> > as much as you do and we fight and die for it and have done so
> throughout its history, and we devote ourselves to this country as
> > much as you obviously think you do.
> >
> > But there is one big difference between all of us (who are
rational
> and concerned) and you, as one of a group of haters who have
> > been writing in this caliber of trash to this message board. We
> don't call people names based on race or religion, we don't make up
> > stupid theories about history based on simpleton ideas and
> misinformation. We have learned the hard way not to keep hate in
our
> > hearts and we have learned just how thoughtless and dangerous it
is
> to go about life that way. We have seen the results and we don't
> > want to see them again, no matter who the victim might be next
> time. We take the time to learn and to understand and to be as
> > accurate and honest with ourselves and others as we can be and if
> we do not know the truth we research it honestly and keep our
> > mouths shut until we do know the truth, rather than go about
> repeatedly making baseless statements which prove our ignorance to
> > others.
> >
> > Dick, take the time when you write and think about these topic to
> make distinctions that are truly meaningful and accurate and
> > constructive. When you do that we will all be grateful for your
> efforts.
> >
> > Leslie
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dick Eastman
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:48 PM
> > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [911TruthAction] Fw: Jew Baiting
> >
> >
> > From: Leslie Schwartz
> > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:55 PM
> > Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] Jew Baiting
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Its not about Israel not even a little bit about Israel for
those
> with the power to make things happen, Mossad just knew it was
> > going to happen and was on hand to see it go down. They have
wanted
> the US to get involved in policing the middle east for a long
> > time, but that is not why the event happened.
> >
> >
> >
> > Leslie Schwartz, yes I am Jewish and if don't like it you know
> what you can do about it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lets see Eastman prove just one if his hate based contentions,
as
> you said below, prove to us Eastman that no one of Jewish
> > ethnicity or decent was killed in the 9/11/01 attack. If you can
> prove that point Eastman then shut up and talk about what you can
> > prove.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Leslie,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not in a position to prove that no one of Jewish ethnicity
> or decent was killed in 9/11/01 attack. The sampling of names I
> > have seen (e.g. the long series on WTC deaths biographies that
thre
> New York Times ran) showed very few Jewish names in my
> > ampling -- not the high ratio of Jewish names I would expect for
> New York City and the hub of finance and world trade. I do take
> > the word of several sources on the internet that only two Israelis
> died. But no proof that there were no Jews killed at WTC -- only
> > indications that there were too few than one would expect.
> >
> >
> >
> > Some of the greatest people in the world have been Jewish -- I
> have known great acts of mercy and generosity by Jews -- paying
> > for an operation for my brother, simply because he wanted to. My
> favorite college professor -- my model of a good man -- is Jewish
> > (Dr. Richard Glassman at LFC)
> >
> >
> >
> > I often say "Jews" when the just discrimination would narrow
that
> to Mossad, or Zionists, or Neo-cons, or Likudniks -- or even
> > more justly I should have narrowed it to this or that
individual --
> >
> >
> >
> > so I am in the wrong -- but I am also mindful that I force Jews
> to ask themselves -- "is he right about me?" "am I allowing
> > myself to be a part of or to go along with what Eastman is
pointing
> out (Neo-con Zionist guilt for 9-11)
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is a letter that will interest you:
> >
> >
> >
> > =================
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello, Al.
> >
> > Do you think 9-11 was an inside job?
> >
> > If so, do you think Zionist's in the White House, Pentagon,
Israel
> > had anything to do with it?
> >
> > Do you think their Zionism was a large part of their motivation?
> >
> > I answer "yes" to all three questions and I have what I think
> > is ample proof of each point.
> >
> > I never claimed to be sane or to know what sanity is -- but I
> > understand evidence and can reach the logical implications
> > that follow from sufficiently complete evidence.
> >
> > Any time you want to discuss the message and what it is
> > based on, rather than the messenger -- I will be happy to
> > walk you through what I have found.
> >
> > Here is a sample:
> >
> > http://bedoper.com/eastman
> >
> > I trust you are still the great investigator you were when we
> corresponded so long ago.
> >
> > Maybe in better -- saner -- times we will compare notes again.
I
> could only gain.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Dick Eastman
> > Yakima, Washinton
> >
> > P.S. as for the impotence of internet posting -- I am taken in
> by chaos theory
> > and that one-quintillion-to-one shot that I just may be the
> little butterfly who
> > could. flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap ... --DE
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <aelewis@>
> > To: <foo@>; <anti-capitalism@yahoogroups.com>
> > Cc: <Conspiracy-Theory@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:48 PM
> > Subject: [A-C] Re: Joni Ferris nails self-important Jew hater
> Dick Eastman
> >
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Yes, Joni, it does seem that Dick has become a rabid Jew-hater
> > over the past several years. It was not always so. I have
observed
> > his posts over many months on anti-capitalism, as well as long
ago
> > (5 years ago) on other lists. It seems that the stress of his
life
> > (which has been considerable), combined with a latent inner
> > scapegoat-ism and perhaps xenophobia (characteristic of
> > right-wingers), has precipitated a psychic degeneration into
> > Paranoid Personality Disorder (see below) with a special
> > Jew-hating spin.
> >
> > (Note that I say "Jew-hating" rather than "anti-semitic". The
> > bigtime anti-semitism in the world today is amongst the
Zionists,
> > the "Christian" Zionists, and other muslim-haters. Jew-hating
is a
> > special, narrow type of anti-semitism which ought to be
> > distinguished from its parent.)
> >
> > It seems that Dick, like G L Rockwell (founder of the American
> > Nazi Party), has yielded to "the ageless impulse of men and
women
> > eaten by the disease of hatred to find a political expression or
> > rationalization for their malady":
> >
> > . http://www.salon.com/books/review/1999/07/19/simonelli/ ---
> > . "[Rockwell] drank too much, battled depression, was left by
> > . several wives, became estranged from his family and spun
> further
> > . and further out of control; you'll wince at the passages in
> which
> > . his goodhearted brother and William F. Buckley, whom Rockwell
> > . hounded, try to get him help. In the succinct summation from
a
> > . 1967 volume that that Simonelli cites, Rockwell gave in
to 'the
> > . ageless impulse of men and women eaten by the disease of
> hatred to
> > . find a political expression or rationalization for their
> malady.'"
> >
> > I've watched this degeneration in several other people. Some of
> > them were quite acute thinkers and great writers, until their
> > deterioration set in. In some cases it is hard to account for
it.
> > Though in Dick's case it is not so hard; he has been quite open
> > about the extreme stresses of his personal life. That, combined
as
> > I say with a latent tendency, has added up to his current
> > relentless stream of semi-demented anti-Jewish ravings and
> > screechings. The anti-capitalism yahoo list has become a
cesspool,
> > unfortunately -- and largely on his account. What we have here
is
> > the anti-capitalism of Goebbels and Himmler, sputtering barely
> > coherently about Jewish bankers' conspiracies. (And yes, Jewish
> > bankers ARE an important aspect of this mess; just that their
> > badness does not inhere in their Jewishness.)
> >
> > There was something in me, years ago (circa 2001), that flashed
a
> > warning sign, and I removed Dick from my email list and
generally
> > cut off communication. Somehow I sensed what was to come. And it
> > came! Oh, brother, did it come.
> >
> > The paranoia was evident in years past. For example, if a
message
> > of his was held up for a few hours, or just did not get through,
> > he would immediately conclude that it was because "they" were
out
> > to get him, and were denying him access to the chat boards or
> > whatever. Of course, it IS possible that "they" (the
> > establishment) might shut down people who are saying things that
> > they do not like. Indeed it has actually happened, and I expect
> > that it will happen increasingly. But for someone with insight,
it
> > is very unlikely that "they" would so selectively target a
single
> > individual -- an individual with NO power, purchase or
credibility
> > in the circles where it counts. In other words, you'd have to
be a
> > tad nuts, or at least seriously lacking in insight, to think
that
> > "they" would go out of their way to shut you down when you are
> > (pardon me) a pipsqueak ranter from Lower Bumfuck, Nebraska,
> > posting on a list with 323 pipsqueak members like you and me.
Yes,
> > "they" exist -- and they don't give a good God Damn about
> > Yahoo-group yahoos like us. Sorry.
> >
> > In charity, I will grant that the capitalist system generally
does
> > tend to make people crazy. The stress, combined with the toxic
> > diet and outright environmental toxins, combined with the sense
of
> > powerlessness (based on the REALITY of powerlessness), combined
> > with some personal bad breaks, can drive people nuts. Not hard
to
> > understand.
> >
> > And, perhaps Dick's personal degeneration was in some measure
> > fueled by the actual (inexcusable) behavior of radical Zionists,
> > Likudniks and the like, who persistently refuse to take
> > responsibility, and who deny their (very real and not just
> > incidental) role in the current mess. Witness the brouhaha just
> > the last week or two over the Mearsheimer/Walt piece. The Israel
> > lobby not only does not want to take any responsibility, it
wants
> > to deny its own existence! THAT can drive people nuts, too.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > PS: Note that Paranoid Personality Disorder (below) is NOT
> > paranoid psychosis, with loss of contact with reality.
Personality
> > disorders are characterized by a somewhat tenuous grasp of
reality
> > (shall we say: "creative" personal representations of it!) --
not
> > with a loss of contact with it. It is more of a personal
> > mind-style than a "disease"; see Hofstader's fine article:
> > The Paranoid Style in American Politics
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anti-capitalism/message/18977
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
--
> >
> > http://mentalhelp.net/disorders/sx37.htm
> >
> > Paranoid Personality Disorder
> >
> > A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that
their
> > motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early
> > adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by
> > four (or more) of the following:
> >
> > 1. suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are
exploiting,
> > harming, or deceiving him or her
> >
> > 2. is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or
> > trustworthiness of friends or associates
> >
> > 3. is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear
> > that the information will be used maliciously against him or her
> >
> > 4. reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign
> > remarks or events
> >
> > 5. persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults,
> > injuries, or slights
> >
> > 6. perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that
> > are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to
> > counterattack
> >
> > 7. has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding
> > fidelity of spouse or sexual partner
> >
> > -----------------
> >
> > Criteria summarized from: American Psychiatric Association.
> > (1994). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders,
> > fourth edition. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric
Association.
> >
> > -------------------------
> >
> > "From the standpoint of any sane person, the present problem of
> > capitalist concentration is not only a question of law, but of
> > criminal law, not to mention criminal lunacy." -- G K Chesterton
> >
> > "You will know you have spoken the truth when you are angrily
> > denounced; and you will know you have spoken both truly and
> > well when you are visited by the police." -- J B R Yant
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:09:00 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Jew Baiting

----- Original Message -----
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Fw: Jew Baiting

>> Can you share your data to prove that the main beneficiary of 9/11 is
> Israel?
>
> Iraq and Iran are/were the two biggest threats to the state of
> Israel's existence. The Jewish lobby and the Israeli government
> screamed loudest for the war
>
Because of Sharon's hard stand Israel was losing world support
prior to 9-11. The (false-flag) attacks boosted Israel like the
Oaklahoma City bombing boosted Clinton a year after Waco.

Just a week before 911 I received a letter from Wendell Solomons
in Sri Lanka who was passing on information that "Israel is on
some kind of countdown" for an important happening.

Zionism gained from 9-11 just as it gains from the holocaust story.

>> I'm looking at Halliburton, root and Brown, I'm looking at The
> Carlyle group, I am looking at the US Military Industrial Complex, I
> am looking at the World Trade organization, I am looking at the World
> health Organization.

Look at the people who finance the war and who own the corporations.
Investment banks lending at compound interest have gained much more from the
war than defense-industry corporations. These bankers are Zionists -- we
cannot say which motive is uppermost in their minds/hearts, Zionism or
profit.

The attacks in New York have been proven to have been more than boxcutter
hijackers -- see, for example, my evidence on the Pentagon attack
http://bedoper.com/eastman for a sample of the case that exists against the
Pentagon leadership -- who are Neo-cons, who are Zionists, who are Jewish,
who are motivated by what is good for Israel. -- They would not have
processed the mass-murder frame-up without taking its effect on Israel into
account. The Pentagon with Rumsfeld in it was attacked for two reasons --
to cover the Pentagon neo-cons from suspicion ("they would never attack
themselves") and to murder the personnel of the Office of Naval Intelligence
that had been moved into the targeted "new wedge" area.

Richard Perle headed a group that included Wolfowitz, Kissinger, Feith at
the Pentagon -- this is where 9/11 was planned -- Perle represents the
(Zionist) Rothschilds, Kissinger represents the Rockefellers and the
hinese -- the plan was made so every principal would get a payoff.
>
> Yes, American criminals benefited too. Americans also helped with
> 9/11 they deserved some payback, don't you think ?
>
Yes, many groups benefited from 9-11 -- but one overarching group was
necessary -- the Zionist network Mossad-Pentagon-MI6-CIA-NSA -- a
network where the official organization charts are misleading.
>
>> Now, some citizens of Israel might be in one of these groups, but
> when you say Mossad, you are telling me that Israel attacked the USA,
> and 5 men with a vans that had trace amounts of explosives is
> suspect but..

Mossad operates as does the CIA -- for the special interests
(profits-power- Zionism), not for the
"national interests" of Israel or the United States. The apparatus of the
state has been sequestered from national interest to serve/profit the
special interests of the power-elite groups (represented by agents Perle,
Kissinger etc.)
>
> It's white hot suspect, absolutely correct, couldn't be much hotter.
> Israeli spies selling paintings were found to have addresses close to
> the hijackers, this was reported on Fox news.

Israel was America's eyes and ears in central asia and in the mid-east --
the U.S. relied in Israeli information about everything -- the 9-11
false-flag
operation depended on control of all information.
>
>
>
>> A van full of C-4 placed in THREE WYTC towers, to bring them down as
> controlled demolition.
>
> I don't understand that.

I also don't know what you are talking about. The van of the
"laughing Israeli's" did not pass the sniff test of the explosives
dogs (it showed positive for explosives materials) -- but no
one is suggesting that that one truck carried all the explosives
used in the controlled demolitions of the twin towers.
>
>
>> I have heard from someone that survived the destruction of their work
> place about construction work that had gone on there for the three
> previous months, but please, share your data, and give your theories,
> hopefully, separating the proven hard facts from speculation.
>
> I don't understand that either

Yes, I too remember detailed stories about work that was done
on the buildings just prior to the attacks -- work with the security
cameras shut down for certain periods as I remember -
>
>
>
>> Oh yes, I saw the Colonel in charge of Norad for that are,
> interviewed just after the first tower was hit, I heard him say that
> his superior ordered him to ground, not fuel or arm any of his planes
> unless given further orders.
>
>
> Really, I didn't hear that.

Certainly the interceptions were not made. There must
be some reason why pursuit planes never took off.
>
>
>
>> Also, several years later the data came out that Cheney's secure
> undisclosed place was the control room of Norad, as his control
> amounted to continually telling the operators there to let the
> aircraft through, to issue to warnings to the apparent targets and
> especially to not let any of our armed aircraft into the air that
> might interfere.
>
> Yes I understood that.

Yes, I've read this too -- and it all fits -- but I base everything not
on these reports (whose authenticity I cannot verify) but on the photo
evidence in the Pentagon attack. Once it was established that the
Pentagon was not attacked in the way that the government and media
reported -- then we had proven a black-op involving the Pentagton --
the Zionist Neo-con leadership, Kissinger, Perle, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld,
Feith and others.
>
>
>
>> I am dying to see your data showing that Cheney is Mossad, I want to
> be present at the execution.

I have no such evidence. It seems that Cheney and Mossad were cooperating
on the same operation -- like the CIA and Mossad so often cooperate -- at
a black-op level and totally illegally (if only the law would know about
it).
>
> Cheney isn't even an israeli citizen, he's actually American. he is a
> neocon and a member of the PNAC, both predominantly Jewish in
> character.
>
Agree.

>> Scott
>
> Eric
>
Dick
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Can you share your data to prove that the main beneficiary of 9/11
> is
> > Israel?
> >
> > I'm looking at Halliburton, root and Brown, I'm looking at The
> Carlyle
> > group, I am looking at the US Military Industrial Complex, I am
> looking at
> > the World Trade organization, I am looking at the World health
> Organization.
> >
> > Now, some citizens of Israel might be in one of these groups, but
> when you
> > say Mossad, you are telling me that Israel attacked the USA, and 5
> men with
> > a vans that had trace amounts of explosives is suspect but.. A van
> full of
> > C-4 placed in THREE WYTC towers, to bring them down as controlled
> > demolition.
> >
> > I have heard from someone that survived the destruction of their
> work place
> > about construction work that had gone on there for the three
> previous
> > months, but please, share your data, and give your theories,
> hopefully,
> > separating the proven hard facts from speculation.
> >
> > Oh yes, I saw the Colonel in charge of Norad for that are,
> interviewed just
> > after the first tower was hit, I heard him say that his superior
> ordered him
> > to ground, not fuel or arm any of his planes unless given further
> orders.
> >
> > Also, several years later the data came out that Cheney's secure
> undisclosed
> > place was the control room of Norad, as his control amounted to
> continually
> > telling the operators there to let the aircraft through, to issue to
> > warnings to the apparent targets and especially to not let any of
> our armed
> > aircraft into the air that might interfere.
> >
> > I am dying to see your data showing that Cheney is Mossad, I want
> to be
> > present at the execution.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of scol202
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:39 PM
> > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Fw: Jew Baiting
> >
> > It does matter if five Mossad agents were caught red handed
> > celebrating the collapse of the towers with traces of explosives in
> > their van. They failed several lie detector tests and the boss of
> the
> > company fled to Israel. The fact that an Israeli company was warned
> > before the attacks matters too.
> >
> > The main beneficiary of the Iraq war was Israel and the only
> > beneficiary of the racist war on terror is Israel. It matters.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Leslie Schwartz"
> > <lhs_emf@> wrote:
> > >
> > > For anyone who actually cares about the truth to this continuing
> > misinformation being promoted here again by Eastman, (Eastman:
> > > essentially "my sampling - few Jews killed at the WTC 9/11/01")
> > check out the following.
> > >
> > > Here is a list of the names of those who died in the WTC. As a
> Jew,
> > I know what names are likely Jewish and which are not. I am not
> > > going to go thru all of them one by one and tell you which are
> > which. If you have been around a bit you will know on your own.
> > >
> > > Highlight the names to see the full name, very roughly at least
> 1/3
> > (conservatively) are Jewish.
> > >
> > > http://www.9-11heroes.us/victims-world-trade-center.php
> > >
> > > Here is another discussion of this issue, with more links and an
> > analysis of the misinformation Eastman continues to spew. The
> > > estimate here is between 400 - 500 people of Jewish decent died in
> > the WTC towers on 9/11/01. There are a series of articles
> > > debunking these lies via this link.
> > >
> > > http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=331277
> > >
> > > Moreover this issue, the tragedy which 9/11 is and represents does
> > not have a dam thing to do with who is Jewish and who is not or
> > > how the events occurred or why they occurred again has nothing to
> > do with Jews or Jewishness or Israel, or American Jews, or French
> > > Jews, or German Jews, etc. As I told you before its about money
> and
> > power. AGAIN, if you really want to have the background history
> > > to understand this event read John Loftus, read Webster Tarpley.
> > Educate yourself, don't be lazy, don't indulge in your prejudices.
> > > Learn that lesson and it will take you a long way in life. That is
> > the most important lesson anyone can take from this discussion.
> > >
> > > Dick, if you really cared about the truth you would investigate
> the
> > truth about it and stop the lies. Are you admitting now below to
> > > laziness' rather than hatred? If that is your excuse, then ask
> > yourself if that is the standard you really want to live by and use
> > > as a guide for your efforts in this or any or important study when
> > you communicate with others about the important issues they
> > > should be aware of. You could not prove your assertion on this
> > issue but yet you repeated it again. What conclusion are we to draw
> > > from that I wonder?
> > >
> > > Your statements have been shameful, stupid and most of all wrong.
> > You ought to know that Jewish people like myself love this country
> > > as much as you do and we fight and die for it and have done so
> > throughout its history, and we devote ourselves to this country as
> > > much as you obviously think you do.
> > >
> > > But there is one big difference between all of us (who are
> rational
> > and concerned) and you, as one of a group of haters who have
> > > been writing in this caliber of trash to this message board. We
> > don't call people names based on race or religion, we don't make up
> > > stupid theories about history based on simpleton ideas and
> > misinformation. We have learned the hard way not to keep hate in
> our
> > > hearts and we have learned just how thoughtless and dangerous it
> is
> > to go about life that way. We have seen the results and we don't
> > > want to see them again, no matter who the victim might be next
> > time. We take the time to learn and to understand and to be as
> > > accurate and honest with ourselves and others as we can be and if
> > we do not know the truth we research it honestly and keep our
> > > mouths shut until we do know the truth, rather than go about
> > repeatedly making baseless statements which prove our ignorance to
> > > others.
> > >
> > > Dick, take the time when you write and think about these topic to
> > make distinctions that are truly meaningful and accurate and
> > > constructive. When you do that we will all be grateful for your
> > efforts.
> > >
> > > Leslie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dick Eastman
> > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:48 PM
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [911TruthAction] Fw: Jew Baiting
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Leslie Schwartz
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:55 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] Jew Baiting
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Its not about Israel not even a little bit about Israel for
> those
> > with the power to make things happen, Mossad just knew it was
> > > going to happen and was on hand to see it go down. They have
> wanted
> > the US to get involved in policing the middle east for a long
> > > time, but that is not why the event happened.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Leslie Schwartz, yes I am Jewish and if don't like it you know
> > what you can do about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lets see Eastman prove just one if his hate based contentions,
> as
> > you said below, prove to us Eastman that no one of Jewish
> > > ethnicity or decent was killed in the 9/11/01 attack. If you can
> > prove that point Eastman then shut up and talk about what you can
> > > prove.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Leslie,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am not in a position to prove that no one of Jewish ethnicity
> > or decent was killed in 9/11/01 attack. The sampling of names I
> > > have seen (e.g. the long series on WTC deaths biographies that
> thre
> > New York Times ran) showed very few Jewish names in my
> > > ampling -- not the high ratio of Jewish names I would expect for
> > New York City and the hub of finance and world trade. I do take
> > > the word of several sources on the internet that only two Israelis
> > died. But no proof that there were no Jews killed at WTC -- only
> > > indications that there were too few than one would expect.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some of the greatest people in the world have been Jewish -- I
> > have known great acts of mercy and generosity by Jews -- paying
> > > for an operation for my brother, simply because he wanted to. My
> > favorite college professor -- my model of a good man -- is Jewish
> > > (Dr. Richard Glassman at LFC)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I often say "Jews" when the just discrimination would narrow
> that
> > to Mossad, or Zionists, or Neo-cons, or Likudniks -- or even
> > > more justly I should have narrowed it to this or that
> individual --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > so I am in the wrong -- but I am also mindful that I force Jews
> > to ask themselves -- "is he right about me?" "am I allowing
> > > myself to be a part of or to go along with what Eastman is
> pointing
> > out (Neo-con Zionist guilt for 9-11)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is a letter that will interest you:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =================
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello, Al.
> > >
> > > Do you think 9-11 was an inside job?
> > >
> > > If so, do you think Zionist's in the White House, Pentagon,
> Israel
> > > had anything to do with it?
> > >
> > > Do you think their Zionism was a large part of their motivation?
> > >
> > > I answer "yes" to all three questions and I have what I think
> > > is ample proof of each point.
> > >
> > > I never claimed to be sane or to know what sanity is -- but I
> > > understand evidence and can reach the logical implications
> > > that follow from sufficiently complete evidence.
> > >
> > > Any time you want to discuss the message and what it is
> > > based on, rather than the messenger -- I will be happy to
> > > walk you through what I have found.
> > >
> > > Here is a sample:
> > >
> > > http://bedoper.com/eastman
> > >
> > > I trust you are still the great investigator you were when we
> > corresponded so long ago.
> > >
> > > Maybe in better -- saner -- times we will compare notes again.
> I
> > could only gain.
> > >
> > > Warm regards,
> > >
> > > Dick Eastman
> > > Yakima, Washinton
> > >
> > > P.S. as for the impotence of internet posting -- I am taken in
> > by chaos theory
> > > and that one-quintillion-to-one shot that I just may be the
> > little butterfly who
> > > could. flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap ... --DE
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <aelewis@>
> > > To: <foo@>; <anti-capitalism@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Cc: <Conspiracy-Theory@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:48 PM
> > > Subject: [A-C] Re: Joni Ferris nails self-important Jew hater
> > Dick Eastman
> > >
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Yes, Joni, it does seem that Dick has become a rabid Jew-hater
> > > over the past several years. It was not always so. I have
> observed
> > > his posts over many months on anti-capitalism, as well as long
> ago
> > > (5 years ago) on other lists. It seems that the stress of his
> life
> > > (which has been considerable), combined with a latent inner
> > > scapegoat-ism and perhaps xenophobia (characteristic of
> > > right-wingers), has precipitated a psychic degeneration into
> > > Paranoid Personality Disorder (see below) with a special
> > > Jew-hating spin.
> > >
> > > (Note that I say "Jew-hating" rather than "anti-semitic". The
> > > bigtime anti-semitism in the world today is amongst the
> Zionists,
> > > the "Christian" Zionists, and other muslim-haters. Jew-hating
> is a
> > > special, narrow type of anti-semitism which ought to be
> > > distinguished from its parent.)
> > >
> > > It seems that Dick, like G L Rockwell (founder of the American
> > > Nazi Party), has yielded to "the ageless impulse of men and
> women
> > > eaten by the disease of hatred to find a political expression or
> > > rationalization for their malady":
> > >
> > > . http://www.salon.com/books/review/1999/07/19/simonelli/ ---
> > > . "[Rockwell] drank too much, battled depression, was left by
> > > . several wives, became estranged from his family and spun
> > further
> > > . and further out of control; you'll wince at the passages in
> > which
> > > . his goodhearted brother and William F. Buckley, whom Rockwell
> > > . hounded, try to get him help. In the succinct summation from
> a
> > > . 1967 volume that that Simonelli cites, Rockwell gave in
> to 'the
> > > . ageless impulse of men and women eaten by the disease of
> > hatred to
> > > . find a political expression or rationalization for their
> > malady.'"
> > >
> > > I've watched this degeneration in several other people. Some of
> > > them were quite acute thinkers and great writers, until their
> > > deterioration set in. In some cases it is hard to account for
> it.
> > > Though in Dick's case it is not so hard; he has been quite open
> > > about the extreme stresses of his personal life. That, combined
> as
> > > I say with a latent tendency, has added up to his current
> > > relentless stream of semi-demented anti-Jewish ravings and
> > > screechings. The anti-capitalism yahoo list has become a
> cesspool,
> > > unfortunately -- and largely on his account. What we have here
> is
> > > the anti-capitalism of Goebbels and Himmler, sputtering barely
> > > coherently about Jewish bankers' conspiracies. (And yes, Jewish
> > > bankers ARE an important aspect of this mess; just that their
> > > badness does not inhere in their Jewishness.)
> > >
> > > There was something in me, years ago (circa 2001), that flashed
> a
> > > warning sign, and I removed Dick from my email list and
> generally
> > > cut off communication. Somehow I sensed what was to come. And it
> > > came! Oh, brother, did it come.
> > >
> > > The paranoia was evident in years past. For example, if a
> message
> > > of his was held up for a few hours, or just did not get through,
> > > he would immediately conclude that it was because "they" were
> out
> > > to get him, and were denying him access to the chat boards or
> > > whatever. Of course, it IS possible that "they" (the
> > > establishment) might shut down people who are saying things that
> > > they do not like. Indeed it has actually happened, and I expect
> > > that it will happen increasingly. But for someone with insight,
> it
> > > is very unlikely that "they" would so selectively target a
> single
> > > individual -- an individual with NO power, purchase or
> credibility
> > > in the circles where it counts. In other words, you'd have to
> be a
> > > tad nuts, or at least seriously lacking in insight, to think
> that
> > > "they" would go out of their way to shut you down when you are
> > > (pardon me) a pipsqueak ranter from Lower Bumfuck, Nebraska,
> > > posting on a list with 323 pipsqueak members like you and me.
> Yes,
> > > "they" exist -- and they don't give a good God Damn about
> > > Yahoo-group yahoos like us. Sorry.
> > >
> > > In charity, I will grant that the capitalist system generally
> does
> > > tend to make people crazy. The stress, combined with the toxic
> > > diet and outright environmental toxins, combined with the sense
> of
> > > powerlessness (based on the REALITY of powerlessness), combined
> > > with some personal bad breaks, can drive people nuts. Not hard
> to
> > > understand.
> > >
> > > And, perhaps Dick's personal degeneration was in some measure
> > > fueled by the actual (inexcusable) behavior of radical Zionists,
> > > Likudniks and the like, who persistently refuse to take
> > > responsibility, and who deny their (very real and not just
> > > incidental) role in the current mess. Witness the brouhaha just
> > > the last week or two over the Mearsheimer/Walt piece. The Israel
> > > lobby not only does not want to take any responsibility, it
> wants
> > > to deny its own existence! THAT can drive people nuts, too.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > PS: Note that Paranoid Personality Disorder (below) is NOT
> > > paranoid psychosis, with loss of contact with reality.
> Personality
> > > disorders are characterized by a somewhat tenuous grasp of
> reality
> > > (shall we say: "creative" personal representations of it!) --
> not
> > > with a loss of contact with it. It is more of a personal
> > > mind-style than a "disease"; see Hofstader's fine article:
> > > The Paranoid Style in American Politics
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anti-capitalism/message/18977
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > >
> > > http://mentalhelp.net/disorders/sx37.htm
> > >
> > > Paranoid Personality Disorder
> > >
> > > A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that
> their
> > > motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early
> > > adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by
> > > four (or more) of the following:
> > >
> > > 1. suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are
> exploiting,
> > > harming, or deceiving him or her
> > >
> > > 2. is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or
> > > trustworthiness of friends or associates
> > >
> > > 3. is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear
> > > that the information will be used maliciously against him or her
> > >
> > > 4. reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign
> > > remarks or events
> > >
> > > 5. persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults,
> > > injuries, or slights
> > >
> > > 6. perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that
> > > are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to
> > > counterattack
> > >
> > > 7. has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding
> > > fidelity of spouse or sexual partner
> > >
> > > -----------------
> > >
> > > Criteria summarized from: American Psychiatric Association.
> > > (1994). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders,
> > > fourth edition. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric
> Association.
> > >
> > > -------------------------
> > >
> > > "From the standpoint of any sane person, the present problem of
> > > capitalist concentration is not only a question of law, but of
> > > criminal law, not to mention criminal lunacy." -- G K Chesterton
> > >
> > > "You will know you have spoken the truth when you are angrily
> > > denounced; and you will know you have spoken both truly and
> > > well when you are visited by the police." -- J B R Yant
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:39:28 -0700
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: My sampling was wrong -- I was wrong -- many Jews died at the WTC according to this victim list

Many Jews did die at the WTC according to this victim list:
http://www.9-11heroes.us/victims-world-trade-center.php

I have many times said that according to the many incomplete
lists I had seen, there had been few or no Jewish names. This
is the first time I have seen a complete list of WTC victims -- and
the Jews are there.

I have made a serious error that has been very harmful.

I should have kept my impressions to myself until more
complete information was known.

I am sorry for misleading readers -- especially when it
is a question of "blaming the Jews" for 9-11

Needless to say everything I say
must be checked against the available evidence --
my usual method is to present my conclusions with
the evidence from which they were generated --
evidence like this

http://bedoper.com/eastman

But when I pass on my impressions based on
the flow of information running across the
internet -- the reliability cannot be high.
Remember that.

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
Every man is responsible to every other man.

----- Original Message -----
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:38 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Fw: Jew Baiting

> It does matter if five Mossad agents were caught red handed
> celebrating the collapse of the towers with traces of explosives in
> their van. They failed several lie detector tests and the boss of the
> company fled to Israel. The fact that an Israeli company was warned
> before the attacks matters too.
>
> The main beneficiary of the Iraq war was Israel and the only
> beneficiary of the racist war on terror is Israel. It matters.
>
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Leslie Schwartz"
> <lhs_emf@...> wrote:
> >
> > For anyone who actually cares about the truth to this continuing
> misinformation being promoted here again by Eastman, (Eastman:
> > essentially "my sampling - few Jews killed at the WTC 9/11/01")
> check out the following.
> >
> > Here is a list of the names of those who died in the WTC. As a Jew,
> I know what names are likely Jewish and which are not. I am not
> > going to go thru all of them one by one and tell you which are
> which. If you have been around a bit you will know on your own.
> >
> > Highlight the names to see the full name, very roughly at least 1/3
> (conservatively) are Jewish.
> >
> > http://www.9-11heroes.us/victims-world-trade-center.php
> >
> > Here is another discussion of this issue, with more links and an
> analysis of the misinformation Eastman continues to spew. The
> > estimate here is between 400 - 500 people of Jewish decent died in
> the WTC towers on 9/11/01. There are a series of articles
> > debunking these lies via this link.
> >
> > http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=331277
> >
> > Moreover this issue, the tragedy which 9/11 is and represents does
> not have a dam thing to do with who is Jewish and who is not or
> > how the events occurred or why they occurred again has nothing to
> do with Jews or Jewishness or Israel, or American Jews, or French
> > Jews, or German Jews, etc. As I told you before its about money and
> power. AGAIN, if you really want to have the background history
> > to understand this event read John Loftus, read Webster Tarpley.
> Educate yourself, don't be lazy, don't indulge in your prejudices.
> > Learn that lesson and it will take you a long way in life. That is
> the most important lesson anyone can take from this discussion.
> >
> > Dick, if you really cared about the truth you would investigate the
> truth about it and stop the lies. Are you admitting now below to
> > laziness' rather than hatred? If that is your excuse, then ask
> yourself if that is the standard you really want to live by and use
> > as a guide for your efforts in this or any or important study when
> you communicate with others about the important issues they
> > should be aware of. You could not prove your assertion on this
> issue but yet you repeated it again. What conclusion are we to draw
> > from that I wonder?
> >
> > Your statements have been shameful, stupid and most of all wrong.
> You ought to know that Jewish people like myself love this country
> > as much as you do and we fight and die for it and have done so
> throughout its history, and we devote ourselves to this country as
> > much as you obviously think you do.
> >
> > But there is one big difference between all of us (who are rational
> and concerned) and you, as one of a group of haters who have
> > been writing in this caliber of trash to this message board. We
> don't call people names based on race or religion, we don't make up
> > stupid theories about history based on simpleton ideas and
> misinformation. We have learned the hard way not to keep hate in our
> > hearts and we have learned just how thoughtless and dangerous it is
> to go about life that way. We have seen the results and we don't
> > want to see them again, no matter who the victim might be next
> time. We take the time to learn and to understand and to be as
> > accurate and honest with ourselves and others as we can be and if
> we do not know the truth we research it honestly and keep our
> > mouths shut until we do know the truth, rather than go about
> repeatedly making baseless statements which prove our ignorance to
> > others.
> >
> > Dick, take the time when you write and think about these topic to
> make distinctions that are truly meaningful and accurate and
> > constructive. When you do that we will all be grateful for your
> efforts.
> >
> > Leslie
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dick Eastman
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:48 PM
> > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [911TruthAction] Fw: Jew Baiting
> >
> >
> > From: Leslie Schwartz
> > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:55 PM
> > Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] Jew Baiting
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Its not about Israel not even a little bit about Israel for those
> with the power to make things happen, Mossad just knew it was
> > going to happen and was on hand to see it go down. They have wanted
> the US to get involved in policing the middle east for a long
> > time, but that is not why the event happened.
> >
> >
> >
> > Leslie Schwartz, yes I am Jewish and if don't like it you know
> what you can do about it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lets see Eastman prove just one if his hate based contentions, as
> you said below, prove to us Eastman that no one of Jewish
> > ethnicity or decent was killed in the 9/11/01 attack. If you can
> prove that point Eastman then shut up and talk about what you can
> > prove.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Leslie,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am not in a position to prove that no one of Jewish ethnicity
> or decent was killed in 9/11/01 attack. The sampling of names I
> > have seen (e.g. the long series on WTC deaths biographies that thre
> New York Times ran) showed very few Jewish names in my
> > ampling -- not the high ratio of Jewish names I would expect for
> New York City and the hub of finance and world trade. I do take
> > the word of several sources on the internet that only two Israelis
> died. But no proof that there were no Jews killed at WTC -- only
> > indications that there were too few than one would expect.
> >
> >
> >
> > Some of the greatest people in the world have been Jewish -- I
> have known great acts of mercy and generosity by Jews -- paying
> > for an operation for my brother, simply because he wanted to. My
> favorite college professor -- my model of a good man -- is Jewish
> > (Dr. Richard Glassman at LFC)
> >
> >
> >
> > I often say "Jews" when the just discrimination would narrow that
> to Mossad, or Zionists, or Neo-cons, or Likudniks -- or even
> > more justly I should have narrowed it to this or that individual --
> >
> >
> >
> > so I am in the wrong -- but I am also mindful that I force Jews
> to ask themselves -- "is he right about me?" "am I allowing
> > myself to be a part of or to go along with what Eastman is pointing
> out (Neo-con Zionist guilt for 9-11)
> >
> >
> >
> > Here is a letter that will interest you:
> >
> >
> >
> > =================
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello, Al.
> >
> > Do you think 9-11 was an inside job?
> >
> > If so, do you think Zionist's in the White House, Pentagon, Israel
> > had anything to do with it?
> >
> > Do you think their Zionism was a large part of their motivation?
> >
> > I answer "yes" to all three questions and I have what I think
> > is ample proof of each point.
> >
> > I never claimed to be sane or to know what sanity is -- but I
> > understand evidence and can reach the logical implications
> > that follow from sufficiently complete evidence.
> >
> > Any time you want to discuss the message and what it is
> > based on, rather than the messenger -- I will be happy to
> > walk you through what I have found.
> >
> > Here is a sample:
> >
> > http://bedoper.com/eastman
> >
> > I trust you are still the great investigator you were when we
> corresponded so long ago.
> >
> > Maybe in better -- saner -- times we will compare notes again. I
> could only gain.
> >
> > Warm regards,
> >
> > Dick Eastman
> > Yakima, Washinton
> >
> > P.S. as for the impotence of internet posting -- I am taken in
> by chaos theory
> > and that one-quintillion-to-one shot that I just may be the
> little butterfly who
> > could. flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap ... --DE
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <aelewis@...>
> > To: <foo@...>; <anti-capitalism@yahoogroups.com>
> > Cc: <Conspiracy-Theory@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:48 PM
> > Subject: [A-C] Re: Joni Ferris nails self-important Jew hater
> Dick Eastman
> >
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Yes, Joni, it does seem that Dick has become a rabid Jew-hater
> > over the past several years. It was not always so. I have observed
> > his posts over many months on anti-capitalism, as well as long ago
> > (5 years ago) on other lists. It seems that the stress of his life
> > (which has been considerable), combined with a latent inner
> > scapegoat-ism and perhaps xenophobia (characteristic of
> > right-wingers), has precipitated a psychic degeneration into
> > Paranoid Personality Disorder (see below) with a special
> > Jew-hating spin.
> >
> > (Note that I say "Jew-hating" rather than "anti-semitic". The
> > bigtime anti-semitism in the world today is amongst the Zionists,
> > the "Christian" Zionists, and other muslim-haters. Jew-hating is a
> > special, narrow type of anti-semitism which ought to be
> > distinguished from its parent.)
> >
> > It seems that Dick, like G L Rockwell (founder of the American
> > Nazi Party), has yielded to "the ageless impulse of men and women
> > eaten by the disease of hatred to find a political expression or
> > rationalization for their malady":
> >
> > . http://www.salon.com/books/review/1999/07/19/simonelli/ ---
> > . "[Rockwell] drank too much, battled depression, was left by
> > . several wives, became estranged from his family and spun
> further
> > . and further out of control; you'll wince at the passages in
> which
> > . his goodhearted brother and William F. Buckley, whom Rockwell
> > . hounded, try to get him help. In the succinct summation from a
> > . 1967 volume that that Simonelli cites, Rockwell gave in to 'the
> > . ageless impulse of men and women eaten by the disease of
> hatred to
> > . find a political expression or rationalization for their
> malady.'"
> >
> > I've watched this degeneration in several other people. Some of
> > them were quite acute thinkers and great writers, until their
> > deterioration set in. In some cases it is hard to account for it.
> > Though in Dick's case it is not so hard; he has been quite open
> > about the extreme stresses of his personal life. That, combined as
> > I say with a latent tendency, has added up to his current
> > relentless stream of semi-demented anti-Jewish ravings and
> > screechings. The anti-capitalism yahoo list has become a cesspool,
> > unfortunately -- and largely on his account. What we have here is
> > the anti-capitalism of Goebbels and Himmler, sputtering barely
> > coherently about Jewish bankers' conspiracies. (And yes, Jewish
> > bankers ARE an important aspect of this mess; just that their
> > badness does not inhere in their Jewishness.)
> >
> > There was something in me, years ago (circa 2001), that flashed a
> > warning sign, and I removed Dick from my email list and generally
> > cut off communication. Somehow I sensed what was to come. And it
> > came! Oh, brother, did it come.
> >
> > The paranoia was evident in years past. For example, if a message
> > of his was held up for a few hours, or just did not get through,
> > he would immediately conclude that it was because "they" were out
> > to get him, and were denying him access to the chat boards or
> > whatever. Of course, it IS possible that "they" (the
> > establishment) might shut down people who are saying things that
> > they do not like. Indeed it has actually happened, and I expect
> > that it will happen increasingly. But for someone with insight, it
> > is very unlikely that "they" would so selectively target a single
> > individual -- an individual with NO power, purchase or credibility
> > in the circles where it counts. In other words, you'd have to be a
> > tad nuts, or at least seriously lacking in insight, to think that
> > "they" would go out of their way to shut you down when you are
> > (pardon me) a pipsqueak ranter from Lower Bumfuck, Nebraska,
> > posting on a list with 323 pipsqueak members like you and me. Yes,
> > "they" exist -- and they don't give a good God Damn about
> > Yahoo-group yahoos like us. Sorry.
> >
> > In charity, I will grant that the capitalist system generally does
> > tend to make people crazy. The stress, combined with the toxic
> > diet and outright environmental toxins, combined with the sense of
> > powerlessness (based on the REALITY of powerlessness), combined
> > with some personal bad breaks, can drive people nuts. Not hard to
> > understand.
> >
> > And, perhaps Dick's personal degeneration was in some measure
> > fueled by the actual (inexcusable) behavior of radical Zionists,
> > Likudniks and the like, who persistently refuse to take
> > responsibility, and who deny their (very real and not just
> > incidental) role in the current mess. Witness the brouhaha just
> > the last week or two over the Mearsheimer/Walt piece. The Israel
> > lobby not only does not want to take any responsibility, it wants
> > to deny its own existence! THAT can drive people nuts, too.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > PS: Note that Paranoid Personality Disorder (below) is NOT
> > paranoid psychosis, with loss of contact with reality. Personality
> > disorders are characterized by a somewhat tenuous grasp of reality
> > (shall we say: "creative" personal representations of it!) -- not
> > with a loss of contact with it. It is more of a personal
> > mind-style than a "disease"; see Hofstader's fine article:
> > The Paranoid Style in American Politics
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anti-capitalism/message/18977
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > http://mentalhelp.net/disorders/sx37.htm
> >
> > Paranoid Personality Disorder
> >
> > A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their
> > motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early
> > adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by
> > four (or more) of the following:
> >
> > 1. suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting,
> > harming, or deceiving him or her
> >
> > 2. is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or
> > trustworthiness of friends or associates
> >
> > 3. is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted fear
> > that the information will be used maliciously against him or her
> >
> > 4. reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign
> > remarks or events
> >
> > 5. persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults,
> > injuries, or slights
> >
> > 6. perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that
> > are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to
> > counterattack
> >
> > 7. has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding
> > fidelity of spouse or sexual partner
> >
> > -----------------
> >
> > Criteria summarized from: American Psychiatric Association.
> > (1994). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders,
> > fourth edition. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Association.
> >
> > -------------------------
> >
> > "From the standpoint of any sane person, the present problem of
> > capitalist concentration is not only a question of law, but of
> > criminal law, not to mention criminal lunacy." -- G K Chesterton
> >
> > "You will know you have spoken the truth when you are angrily
> > denounced; and you will know you have spoken both truly and
> > well when you are visited by the police." -- J B R Yant
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:56:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Perna <savefreedom2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: My sampling was wrong -- I was wrong -- many Jews died at the WTC according to this victim list

The five Israeli victims of September 11
Alona Avraham
Alona Avraham Alona Avraham, 30, from Ashdod, was onboard United Flight 175 Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California that crashed into south tower of the World Trade Center.

She was traveling coast to coast across the United States and was supposed to return to Israel at the end of September 2001.

Leon Lebor
Leon Lebor, 51 Leon Lebor, 51, was born in London, England, but moved to Jerusalem and then New York.

Lebor was deaf from birth and learned sign language in Israel, where he owned a flower shop in the capital. On September 11, he was at his job as janitor in the twin towers.

Shai Levinhar
Shai Levinhar, 29 Shai Levinhar, 29, worked for the eSpeed subsidiary of the large brokerage firm Cantor Fitzgerald in the north tower.

Five years before the tragedy, he moved to Manhattan with his wife, who gave birth to their first child, a girl, several weeks before his death.

Levinhar was born and grew up near Tel Aviv, and served as an officer in the Israel Air Force.

Daniel Lewin
Daniel Lewin, 31 Daniel Lewin, 31, was one of the founders of the Akamai Internet company. On September 11, he was on board Flight American Airlines Flight 11 from Boston to Los Angeles, which crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center.

Two months before his death, Levin was named as one the 100 most important people in the national information industry.

He is survived by his wife and two sons

Haggai Sheffi
Haggai Sheffi, 34 Haggai Sheffi, 34, was on the 106th floor of the north tower when American Airlines Flight 11 hit.

He worked as director general of the GoldTier company and had been in the tower for a business meeting.

Immediately after the plane hit, Sheffi called his wife Sigal to say goodbye.

---------------------------------

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=84428&contrassID=3&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=0

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Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:
Many Jews did die at the WTC according to this victim list:
http://www.9-11heroes.us/victims-world-trade-center.php

I have made a serious error that has been very harmful.

I should have kept my impressions to myself until more
complete information was known.

I am sorry for misleading readers -- especially when it
is a question of "blaming the Jews" for 9-11

Needless to say everything I say
must be checked against the available evidence --
my usual method is to present my conclusions with
the evidence from which they were generated --
evidence like this

http://bedoper.com/eastman

But when I pass on my impressions based on
the flow of information running across the
internet -- the reliability cannot be high.
Remember that.

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington
Every man is responsible to every other man.

----- Original Message -----
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:38 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Fw: Jew Baiting

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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:09:31 -0000
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: My sampling was wrong -- I was wrong -- many Jews died at the WTC according to this victim list

Do you have a correct link for this information, the one you supplied
is wrong ?

There are only four people in the list, one on a plane. Are they
Americans with dual citizenship ?

According to the Israli consul, there were no Israeli citizens
working in the building who were killed.

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, John Perna
<savefreedom2005@...> wrote:
>
> The five Israeli victims of September 11
> Alona Avraham
> Alona Avraham
Alona Avraham, 30, from Ashdod, was onboard United Flight 175 Boston,
Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California that crashed into south
tower of the World Trade Center.
>
> She was traveling coast to coast across the United States and was
supposed to return to Israel at the end of September 2001.
>
>
> Leon Lebor
> Leon Lebor, 51
Leon Lebor, 51, was born in London, England, but moved to Jerusalem
and then New York.
>
> Lebor was deaf from birth and learned sign language in Israel,
where he owned a flower shop in the capital. On September 11, he was
at his job as janitor in the twin towers.
>
>
> Shai Levinhar
> Shai Levinhar,
29 Shai Levinhar, 29,
worked for the eSpeed subsidiary of the large brokerage firm Cantor
Fitzgerald in the north tower.
>
> Five years before the tragedy, he moved to Manhattan with his wife,
who gave birth to their first child, a girl, several weeks before his
death.
>
> Levinhar was born and grew up near Tel Aviv, and served as an
officer in the Israel Air Force.
>
>
> Daniel Lewin
> Daniel Lewin,
31 Daniel Lewin, 31, was
one of the founders of the Akamai Internet company. On September 11,
he was on board Flight American Airlines Flight 11 from Boston to Los
Angeles, which crashed into the north tower of the World Trade
Center.
>
> Two months before his death, Levin was named as one the 100 most
important people in the national information industry.
>
> He is survived by his wife and two sons
>
>
> Haggai Sheffi
> Haggai Sheffi,
34 Haggai Sheffi, 34, was
on the 106th floor of the north tower when American Airlines Flight
11 hit.
>
> He worked as director general of the GoldTier company and had been
in the tower for a business meeting.
>
> Immediately after the plane hit, Sheffi called his wife Sigal to
say goodbye.
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?
itemNo=84428&contrassID=3&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=0
>
> Friday, December 27, 2002 Tevet 22, 5763 Israel
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>
> Dick Eastman <olfriend@...> wrote:
> Many Jews did die at the WTC according to this victim list:
> http://www.9-11heroes.us/victims-world-trade-center.php
>
> I have many times said that according to the many incomplete
> lists I had seen, there had been few or no Jewish names. This
> is the first time I have seen a complete list of WTC victims -- and
> the Jews are there.
>
> I have made a serious error that has been very harmful.
>
> I should have kept my impressions to myself until more
> complete information was known.
>
> I am sorry for misleading readers -- especially when it
> is a question of "blaming the Jews" for 9-11
>
> Needless to say everything I say
> must be checked against the available evidence --
> my usual method is to present my conclusions with
> the evidence from which they were generated --
> evidence like this
>
> http://bedoper.com/eastman
>
> But when I pass on my impressions based on
> the flow of information running across the
> internet -- the reliability cannot be high.
> Remember that.
>
>
> Dick Eastman
> Yakima, Washington
> Every man is responsible to every other man.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@...>
> To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:38 PM
> Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Fw: Jew Baiting
>
>
> > It does matter if five Mossad agents were caught red handed
> > celebrating the collapse of the towers with traces of explosives
in
> > their van. They failed several lie detector tests and the boss of
the
> > company fled to Israel. The fact that an Israeli company was
warned
> > before the attacks matters too.
> >
> > The main beneficiary of the Iraq war was Israel and the only
> > beneficiary of the racist war on terror is Israel. It matters.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Leslie Schwartz"
> > <lhs_emf@> wrote:
> > >
> > > For anyone who actually cares about the truth to this
continuing
> > misinformation being promoted here again by Eastman, (Eastman:
> > > essentially "my sampling - few Jews killed at the WTC 9/11/01")
> > check out the following.
> > >
> > > Here is a list of the names of those who died in the WTC. As a
Jew,
> > I know what names are likely Jewish and which are not. I am not
> > > going to go thru all of them one by one and tell you which are
> > which. If you have been around a bit you will know on your own.
> > >
> > > Highlight the names to see the full name, very roughly at least
1/3
> > (conservatively) are Jewish.
> > >
> > > http://www.9-11heroes.us/victims-world-trade-center.php
> > >
> > > Here is another discussion of this issue, with more links and
an
> > analysis of the misinformation Eastman continues to spew. The
> > > estimate here is between 400 - 500 people of Jewish decent died
in
> > the WTC towers on 9/11/01. There are a series of articles
> > > debunking these lies via this link.
> > >
> > > http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=331277
> > >
> > > Moreover this issue, the tragedy which 9/11 is and represents
does
> > not have a dam thing to do with who is Jewish and who is not or
> > > how the events occurred or why they occurred again has nothing
to
> > do with Jews or Jewishness or Israel, or American Jews, or French
> > > Jews, or German Jews, etc. As I told you before its about money
and
> > power. AGAIN, if you really want to have the background history
> > > to understand this event read John Loftus, read Webster
Tarpley.
> > Educate yourself, don't be lazy, don't indulge in your prejudices.
> > > Learn that lesson and it will take you a long way in life. That
is
> > the most important lesson anyone can take from this discussion.
> > >
> > > Dick, if you really cared about the truth you would investigate
the
> > truth about it and stop the lies. Are you admitting now below to
> > > laziness' rather than hatred? If that is your excuse, then ask
> > yourself if that is the standard you really want to live by and
use
> > > as a guide for your efforts in this or any or important study
when
> > you communicate with others about the important issues they
> > > should be aware of. You could not prove your assertion on this
> > issue but yet you repeated it again. What conclusion are we to
draw
> > > from that I wonder?
> > >
> > > Your statements have been shameful, stupid and most of all
wrong.
> > You ought to know that Jewish people like myself love this country
> > > as much as you do and we fight and die for it and have done so
> > throughout its history, and we devote ourselves to this country as
> > > much as you obviously think you do.
> > >
> > > But there is one big difference between all of us (who are
rational
> > and concerned) and you, as one of a group of haters who have
> > > been writing in this caliber of trash to this message board. We
> > don't call people names based on race or religion, we don't make
up
> > > stupid theories about history based on simpleton ideas and
> > misinformation. We have learned the hard way not to keep hate in
our
> > > hearts and we have learned just how thoughtless and dangerous
it is
> > to go about life that way. We have seen the results and we don't
> > > want to see them again, no matter who the victim might be next
> > time. We take the time to learn and to understand and to be as
> > > accurate and honest with ourselves and others as we can be and
if
> > we do not know the truth we research it honestly and keep our
> > > mouths shut until we do know the truth, rather than go about
> > repeatedly making baseless statements which prove our ignorance to
> > > others.
> > >
> > > Dick, take the time when you write and think about these topic
to
> > make distinctions that are truly meaningful and accurate and
> > > constructive. When you do that we will all be grateful for your
> > efforts.
> > >
> > > Leslie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dick Eastman
> > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:48 PM
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [911TruthAction] Fw: Jew Baiting
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Leslie Schwartz
> > > To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:55 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] Jew Baiting
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Its not about Israel not even a little bit about Israel for
those
> > with the power to make things happen, Mossad just knew it was
> > > going to happen and was on hand to see it go down. They have
wanted
> > the US to get involved in policing the middle east for a long
> > > time, but that is not why the event happened.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Leslie Schwartz, yes I am Jewish and if don't like it you
know
> > what you can do about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lets see Eastman prove just one if his hate based
contentions, as
> > you said below, prove to us Eastman that no one of Jewish
> > > ethnicity or decent was killed in the 9/11/01 attack. If you
can
> > prove that point Eastman then shut up and talk about what you can
> > > prove.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Leslie,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am not in a position to prove that no one of Jewish
ethnicity
> > or decent was killed in 9/11/01 attack. The sampling of names I
> > > have seen (e.g. the long series on WTC deaths biographies that
thre
> > New York Times ran) showed very few Jewish names in my
> > > ampling -- not the high ratio of Jewish names I would expect
for
> > New York City and the hub of finance and world trade. I do take
> > > the word of several sources on the internet that only two
Israelis
> > died. But no proof that there were no Jews killed at WTC -- only
> > > indications that there were too few than one would expect.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some of the greatest people in the world have been Jewish --
I
> > have known great acts of mercy and generosity by Jews -- paying
> > > for an operation for my brother, simply because he wanted to.
My
> > favorite college professor -- my model of a good man -- is Jewish
> > > (Dr. Richard Glassman at LFC)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I often say "Jews" when the just discrimination would narrow
that
> > to Mossad, or Zionists, or Neo-cons, or Likudniks -- or even
> > > more justly I should have narrowed it to this or that
individual --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > so I am in the wrong -- but I am also mindful that I force
Jews
> > to ask themselves -- "is he right about me?" "am I allowing
> > > myself to be a part of or to go along with what Eastman is
pointing
> > out (Neo-con Zionist guilt for 9-11)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Here is a letter that will interest you:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =================
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello, Al.
> > >
> > > Do you think 9-11 was an inside job?
> > >
> > > If so, do you think Zionist's in the White House, Pentagon,
Israel
> > > had anything to do with it?
> > >
> > > Do you think their Zionism was a large part of their
motivation?
> > >
> > > I answer "yes" to all three questions and I have what I think
> > > is ample proof of each point.
> > >
> > > I never claimed to be sane or to know what sanity is -- but I
> > > understand evidence and can reach the logical implications
> > > that follow from sufficiently complete evidence.
> > >
> > > Any time you want to discuss the message and what it is
> > > based on, rather than the messenger -- I will be happy to
> > > walk you through what I have found.
> > >
> > > Here is a sample:
> > >
> > > http://bedoper.com/eastman
> > >
> > > I trust you are still the great investigator you were when we
> > corresponded so long ago.
> > >
> > > Maybe in better -- saner -- times we will compare notes
again. I
> > could only gain.
> > >
> > > Warm regards,
> > >
> > > Dick Eastman
> > > Yakima, Washinton
> > >
> > > P.S. as for the impotence of internet posting -- I am taken
in
> > by chaos theory
> > > and that one-quintillion-to-one shot that I just may be the
> > little butterfly who
> > > could. flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap flap ... --
DE
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <aelewis@>
> > > To: <foo@>; <anti-capitalism@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Cc: <Conspiracy-Theory@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:48 PM
> > > Subject: [A-C] Re: Joni Ferris nails self-important Jew hater
> > Dick Eastman
> > >
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Yes, Joni, it does seem that Dick has become a rabid Jew-hater
> > > over the past several years. It was not always so. I have
observed
> > > his posts over many months on anti-capitalism, as well as
long ago
> > > (5 years ago) on other lists. It seems that the stress of his
life
> > > (which has been considerable), combined with a latent inner
> > > scapegoat-ism and perhaps xenophobia (characteristic of
> > > right-wingers), has precipitated a psychic degeneration into
> > > Paranoid Personality Disorder (see below) with a special
> > > Jew-hating spin.
> > >
> > > (Note that I say "Jew-hating" rather than "anti-semitic". The
> > > bigtime anti-semitism in the world today is amongst the
Zionists,
> > > the "Christian" Zionists, and other muslim-haters. Jew-hating
is a
> > > special, narrow type of anti-semitism which ought to be
> > > distinguished from its parent.)
> > >
> > > It seems that Dick, like G L Rockwell (founder of the American
> > > Nazi Party), has yielded to "the ageless impulse of men and
women
> > > eaten by the disease of hatred to find a political expression
or
> > > rationalization for their malady":
> > >
> > > . http://www.salon.com/books/review/1999/07/19/simonelli/ ---
> > > . "[Rockwell] drank too much, battled depression, was left by
> > > . several wives, became estranged from his family and spun
> > further
> > > . and further out of control; you'll wince at the passages
in
> > which
> > > . his goodhearted brother and William F. Buckley, whom
Rockwell
> > > . hounded, try to get him help. In the succinct summation
from a
> > > . 1967 volume that that Simonelli cites, Rockwell gave in
to 'the
> > > . ageless impulse of men and women eaten by the disease of
> > hatred to
> > > . find a political expression or rationalization for their
> > malady.'"
> > >
> > > I've watched this degeneration in several other people. Some
of
> > > them were quite acute thinkers and great writers, until their
> > > deterioration set in. In some cases it is hard to account for
it.
> > > Though in Dick's case it is not so hard; he has been quite
open
> > > about the extreme stresses of his personal life. That,
combined as
> > > I say with a latent tendency, has added up to his current
> > > relentless stream of semi-demented anti-Jewish ravings and
> > > screechings. The anti-capitalism yahoo list has become a
cesspool,
> > > unfortunately -- and largely on his account. What we have
here is
> > > the anti-capitalism of Goebbels and Himmler, sputtering barely
> > > coherently about Jewish bankers' conspiracies. (And yes,
Jewish
> > > bankers ARE an important aspect of this mess; just that their
> > > badness does not inhere in their Jewishness.)
> > >
> > > There was something in me, years ago (circa 2001), that
flashed a
> > > warning sign, and I removed Dick from my email list and
generally
> > > cut off communication. Somehow I sensed what was to come. And
it
> > > came! Oh, brother, did it come.
> > >
> > > The paranoia was evident in years past. For example, if a
message
> > > of his was held up for a few hours, or just did not get
through,
> > > he would immediately conclude that it was because "they" were
out
> > > to get him, and were denying him access to the chat boards or
> > > whatever. Of course, it IS possible that "they" (the
> > > establishment) might shut down people who are saying things
that
> > > they do not like. Indeed it has actually happened, and I
expect
> > > that it will happen increasingly. But for someone with
insight, it
> > > is very unlikely that "they" would so selectively target a
single
> > > individual -- an individual with NO power, purchase or
credibility
> > > in the circles where it counts. In other words, you'd have to
be a
> > > tad nuts, or at least seriously lacking in insight, to think
that
> > > "they" would go out of their way to shut you down when you are
> > > (pardon me) a pipsqueak ranter from Lower Bumfuck, Nebraska,
> > > posting on a list with 323 pipsqueak members like you and me.
Yes,
> > > "they" exist -- and they don't give a good God Damn about
> > > Yahoo-group yahoos like us. Sorry.
> > >
> > > In charity, I will grant that the capitalist system generally
does
> > > tend to make people crazy. The stress, combined with the toxic
> > > diet and outright environmental toxins, combined with the
sense of
> > > powerlessness (based on the REALITY of powerlessness),
combined
> > > with some personal bad breaks, can drive people nuts. Not
hard to
> > > understand.
> > >
> > > And, perhaps Dick's personal degeneration was in some measure
> > > fueled by the actual (inexcusable) behavior of radical
Zionists,
> > > Likudniks and the like, who persistently refuse to take
> > > responsibility, and who deny their (very real and not just
> > > incidental) role in the current mess. Witness the brouhaha
just
> > > the last week or two over the Mearsheimer/Walt piece. The
Israel
> > > lobby not only does not want to take any responsibility, it
wants
> > > to deny its own existence! THAT can drive people nuts, too.
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > PS: Note that Paranoid Personality Disorder (below) is NOT
> > > paranoid psychosis, with loss of contact with reality.
Personality
> > > disorders are characterized by a somewhat tenuous grasp of
reality
> > > (shall we say: "creative" personal representations of it!) --
not
> > > with a loss of contact with it. It is more of a personal
> > > mind-style than a "disease"; see Hofstader's fine article:
> > > The Paranoid Style in American Politics
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anti-capitalism/message/18977
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
----
> > >
> > > http://mentalhelp.net/disorders/sx37.htm
> > >
> > > Paranoid Personality Disorder
> > >
> > > A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that
their
> > > motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early
> > > adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated
by
> > > four (or more) of the following:
> > >
> > > 1. suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are
exploiting,
> > > harming, or deceiving him or her
> > >
> > > 2. is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or
> > > trustworthiness of friends or associates
> > >
> > > 3. is reluctant to confide in others because of unwarranted
fear
> > > that the information will be used maliciously against him or
her
> > >
> > > 4. reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign
> > > remarks or events
> > >
> > > 5. persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of
insults,
> > > injuries, or slights
> > >
> > > 6. perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation
that
> > > are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to
> > > counterattack
> > >
> > > 7. has recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding
> > > fidelity of spouse or sexual partner
> > >
> > > -----------------
> > >
> > > Criteria summarized from: American Psychiatric Association.
> > > (1994). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders,
> > > fourth edition. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric
Association.
> > >
> > > -------------------------
> > >
> > > "From the standpoint of any sane person, the present problem
of
> > > capitalist concentration is not only a question of law, but of
> > > criminal law, not to mention criminal lunacy." -- G K
Chesterton
> > >
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> > > denounced; and you will know you have spoken both truly and
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:59:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Israel's Connection to 9/11

This is the stuff linking israel with spyrings in the united states. This is all cited mostly with mainstream media reports.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring2.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html

In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:17:01 -0000
From: "Greg Nixon" <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Anyone working on activist projects here?

I know Kevin has a new site...What are people up to or planning?
Here in VT we just had the Loose Change II crew and showed the film at
UVM to a large audience. We are also having Tarpley speak on the 27th
of April. The group, Burlington9/11 Action (created in the last 2
months) has already held two succesful events and is going for our
third. We are planning to protest General Dynamics and their ties to
9/11.

Could we all drop the Israel/Zionist bullshit and get back to fighting
Fascism and seeking justice for 9/11? This list is bordering on being
all delete material.

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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:27:59 -0000
From: "scol202" <yahooboxx@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Israel's Connection to 9/11

It's excellent and it's damning.

Looks like Pakistan and the United States were involved too.

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Naveed <flanker12k@...> wrote:
>
>
> This is the stuff linking israel with spyrings in the united
states. This is all cited mostly with mainstream media reports.
>
> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html
>
>
> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring2.html
>
>
> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html
>
>
>
>
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 02:50:07 -0000
From: "Greg Nixon" <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re-Post for New Members: Think You Know What Happened on 9/11?

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2006/01/145160.php

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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:14:06 -0400
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
Subject: Re: TimeToTell-"Joint Chiefs of Staff" Remove Bush/Cheney Now BeforeWWII

Done...Kitty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:02 AM
Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] TimeToTell-"Joint Chiefs of Staff" Remove
Bush/Cheney Now BeforeWWII

> What are the next 3 Neo Con's in line for the presidency should we get rid
> of George and his Dick? Or after last week, I should say his Richard?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ranger116@webtv.net
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:45 PM
> To: ranger116@webtv.net
> Cc: openmindandcodenews@yahoogroups.com; Impeach-Bush@yahoogroups.com;
> HouseOfChing@yahoogroups.com; ElectionFraud2004@yahoogroups.com;
> CitizensForLegitimateGovernment@yahoogroups.com; CCCC-USA@yahoogroups.com;
> 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [911TruthAction] TimeToTell-"Joint Chiefs of Staff" Remove
> Bush/Cheney Now BeforeWWII
>
>
> TimeToTell-"Joint Chiefs of Staff" Remove Bush/Cheney Now BeforeWW III
>
> Forward this to everyone and tell the U.S. Military Joint Chiefs of
> Staff (below) that you back their Removing Bush, Cheney Rumsfeld, Rice
> etc. from power immediately before they start WW III With Russia and
> China involved exchanging nuclear warhead missiles with the USA !
>
> Do it now -- This Is Not A Drill !!
>
> U.S. Military Joint Chiefs of Staff
> JCS Comment Form
> Address: http://jcs.mil/jcs_comment.html
>
>
> The Bush / Cheney Impeachment, Treason and War Crime trials can be done
> later, But this must be done Now !
>
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