Discussion about 09/11/2001: [911TruthAction] Digest Number 1194

Sunday, March 26, 2006

[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1194

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: What did China h....
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
2. Charlie Sheen is just a focussing point
From: ranger116@webtv.net
3. Re: Re: What did China h....
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
4. Further comments: What did China have to do with 9-11?
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
5. Action Alert: Buycott CNN!!
From: "botalerts" <botalerts@yahoo.ca>
6. 500,000 Immigrants protest immigration law changes+Sheen WTC 9/11
From: ranger116@webtv.net
7. Re: 9/11 - fake 9-11 pictures and other garbage
From: APFN <apfn@apfn.org>
8. Re: We ain't out of the woods yet people!
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
9. Re: We ain't out of the woods yet people!
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
10. Re: Further comments: What did China have to do with 9-11?
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
11. Re: How Television Controls And Programs Minds
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
12. Re: We ain't out of the woods yet people!
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
13. Re: We ain't out of the woods yet people!
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
14. 911 Truth & "V for Vendetta" Campaigns
From: "angiesept11" <angiesept11@yahoo.com>
15. additional Guy Fawkes (V for Vendetta) links
From: "angiesept11" <angiesept11@yahoo.com>
16. RE: Re: is the sheen 9/11 story a real break for us?
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
17. Re: 911 Truth & "V for Vendetta" Campaigns
From: "catsears_2000" <catsears_2000@yahoo.com>
18. Re: 911 Truth & "V for Vendetta" Campaigns
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
19. Transcript, CNN Showbiz Tonight Friday - Sheen, Jong, Jacobson
From: John Leonard <jpleonard@verizon.net>
20. RE: is the sheen 9/11 story a real break for us?
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
21. Re: Transcript, CNN Showbiz Tonight Friday - Sheen, Jong, Jacobson
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
22. Bush’s IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public .....
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
23. Re: is the sheen 9/11 story a real break for us?
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
24. Bush uncle makes millions from war
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
25. Re: Action Alert: Buycott CNN!!
From: Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:26:00 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: What did China h....

> No one likes shaul eisenberg
>

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:26:41 -0500
From: ranger116@webtv.net
Subject: Charlie Sheen is just a focussing point

Charlie Sheen is just a focussing point

It is what we do with it that will make a difference !!

Bush Lied - People Died
Bush Spied - Must Be Tried !

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:07:22 -0800
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Re: Re: What did China h....

From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:26 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: What did China h....

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> > No one likes shaul eisenberg

And nobody but Jews know who the heck Shaul Eisenberg is. And we have a Zionist Jew hiding behind the name "mojo" who is trying to distract people from the following post by tossing his little stink bombs. Are you the only one on this list who got the message, Mojo? It sure seems like it.

What did China have to do with 9-11?

by Dick Eastman http://bedoper.com/eastman

The Chinese gained from the 9-11 false-flag provocateur mass-murder asymetrical-warfare operation against the US and Islam.

The Moslem Taliban were erradicating the opium growing in Afganistan -- which cut shipments of opium over the old silk road to China which cut the production and world distribution of Chinese heroin -- of which a trillion dollars worth was laundered into London, US, Swiss, German and French merchant banks each year where it was (is) invested in China's "miraculous" super industrialization (with slave-labor compensation) -- the Chinese needed the Taliban taken down and the so-called "Norther Alliance" drug-lords put in control. 9-11 accomplished this. (Remember how Taliban leader Mohammed Omar told Bush that he would extradite bin Laden to the U.S. immediately if Bush would only show some evidence linking bin Laden to 9-11 -- Bush refused and invaded -- and you know the rest of that story.

The Moslems under Han Red Chinese domination had been looking to the Taliban for religious inspiration in the face of Chinese enforced atheism and persecution and racial discrimination. The Chinese needed the (stupid) U.S. to be fooled by the 9-11 false-flag attack so that they would (with neo-con management) attack and destroy the government of the religious clean-living Taliban.

China has never given up the goal of defeating the U.S. -- essentially Jeffersonian bourgeois liberalism -- but they have proceeded in surreptitious cunning -- attacking our culture, our economy, our institutions, our relations with the world. The 9-11 wars exhaust America and the make America hated in the world. The Chinese have long past the point where they are stronger than the U.S. in the world -- all of the wealth of the U.S. is concentrated in internationalist ruling-class families who are allied with Chinese ruling class power -- the power that enslaves China today in the coils of market totalitarianism.

(more below)

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington

From: David Macko
To: anti-capitalism@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [A-C] Re: Zionist Domination

?
There certainly does seem to be at least a temporary working relationship
between Red China, Zionist Israel and the criminals who misrule us.
As you do so often, you provide a quite interesting and plausible theory.
Of course, we won't know who is at the top of the pyramid unless we
are totally conquered or totally defeat them, assuming we live so long.
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From: "Patrick BURNAND" <pburnand@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Re: Zionist Domination

> On Wednesday 22 March 2006 23:31, Dick Eastman wrote:
> > The Zionists and the Chinese are allied. The Mideast Wars are to
> > distract us and to exhaust us for the attack we are not expecting. 9/11
> > was Zionism (Mossad); organized crime Jewish Mafia and Chinese Triads);
> > Anglo-American ruling elite crime families -- structurally represented by
> > big finance and big (multi-national corps) business -- masterminded by
> > the PLA. There is no better educated guess than that. And no, no one
> > more believable than I is going to confirm this for you. You have to
> > reach a decision on your own. I suggest you be quick about it.
> > -- Dick Eastman
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> What have the Chinese to do with this ??

You are aware how American corporations are controlled by the American
power elite -- the criminal "globalist" ruling elite. In the same way the
Chinese People's Liberation Army is a giant corporation also run by
ruling families -- Triad crime families -- who control the communist state
apparatus. The ruling families of East and West are allied in their plans
for global domination -- world-class aristocracy over a broken and docile
servant class. Their enemy is middle-class culture, the rights of the
common man, government for the people rather than for the
plutocratic families -- with the ideology of the aristocracies of Europe.

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> According to the evidence I've got (These are not proofs like laws of the
> physics but it's worth considering it), it was about 80 % the CIA and 15%
> the Mossad. (probably the MI6 and the ISI were involved also)

The CIA and Mossad and MI6 are merely branch offices of capitalism's
secret services -- when the power elite wants a job done they call on Mossad,
because they can most be trusted. Mossad has infiltrated the CIA and MI6
and the Pentagon -- what do you think "neo-cons" really are? -- Yes this is
my opinion, but I am convinced this is how it is -- this is the explanation that
fits the facts.
>
> >From the evidence I've got, it's clear that it was a covert operation
> >done by intelligence agencies.

The idea was born of men like Wolfowitz and Richard Perle and Kissinger
and nameless merchant bankers and Chinese princelings. Mossad was
assigned to capture the centers of control within the CIA, NSA, FBI,
FAA, Pentagon, Media, Congress, Corporations to execute the false-flag
operation. During the Bush I and Clinton administrations the machinery
was put in place -- Clinton was a month in China planning 9-11 with
the Israelis during his presidency. Israel and Red China have been
allies since Zhou Enlai first recognized Israel in 1949 -- Israel has
provided China with a steady stream of U.S. military secrets -- including
the neutron bomb.
Israel is allied with China against the U.S. -- the economic "ties"
(chains) between U.S. and China is part of a long-term deception strategy.
>
> Such a huge covert operation could not have been done by some private
> group.
> This seems to completely exclude organizations like mafias, triads.

Zhou Enlai united the Chinese Communist Party with the Triads during the
Conflict with Chang Kai-shek (Republic of China on Taiwan) to undermine
Chang. The Chinese Communists have always been opium and heroin
dealers -- look at the Maoist F.A.R.C. revolutionaries in Columbia etc.
and the earlier Shining Path Maoists in Peru.
>
> And I really don't see how the chinese govnerment would benefit from 9/11.
> 9/11 could in the contrary be used as a pretext to impose protectionist
> tarifs on chinese goods disguised as "anti-terrorism" and "national
> security".

The Chinese have been bent on conquest for 50 years -- they have just kept
it to themselves. They view the economic ties as a way to capture American
economic power for themselves -- they view it as an act of war against an
unsuspecting enemy. They seek to defeat their enemy indirectly -- to
exhaust and confuse us -- to bribe and corrupt our "princes" -- to make us
dependent and easy to cut off from life support.

After Nixon "opened China" in that famous visit -- David Rockefeller arrived
the very next week with Kissinger and met with Zhou Enlai and the
great transfer of knowledge and industrial capital to China was
settled upon -- Big Finance would stop investing in the U.S. and
would finance slave-labor super factories in China -- to replace
as leader of the world a "free" pro-middl-class culture,
with a definite ruling-class servant-class totalitarian model -- where
ruling families would be forever supreme and never again
challenged by middle-class interests -- by Jeffersonain principles,
by the rights of man, by bourgeois (middle-class) justice, by liberalism.

> Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>

Dick Eastman < olfriend@nwinfo.net >

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:46:55 -0800
From: "Dick Eastman" <olfriend@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Further comments: What did China have to do with 9-11?

From:
March 25, 2006
Subject: What did China have to do with 9-11?

Hi Dick
nice to have you back

I agree with much of what you wrote about What did China have to do with 9-11?

Another point to add about the relationship between Israel and Communist China is the very important fact that the Jews exported Communism to China, affecting that country like no other, even more so than the "Soviet Union".

There are also a huge number of Chinese immigrant workers within Occupied Palestine,aka Israel, who are treated like cheap slave labour and given no employment rights but they still dumbly go there for 'work'.

Yes indeed, Israel has through its Espionage channels, sold US military secrets not only to China but also to Russia and India with whom she has very close covert military and economic relations. ( The Armageddon Network -- book on Israeli Firsters and another Richard Perle protégé - http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/112684/841126010.html

Israeli Spy Data http://www.rense.com/Datapages/Israeldata.html;

20 Years of Neocon Spying and Betrayal http://www.counterpunch.org/green09032004.html

Keep in mind, despite the annual billions she gets from US Taxpayers, according to Defence Ministry Officials, 'Israel exported $2.8 billion-worth of defence goods in 2003, almost 10% of world trade in defense exports' and that there has been a huge 'continuous increase in her defence exports', which could reach a staggering $4 billion plus it appears that the world owes this Usurer millions also - to the tune of $23 BILLION

WORLD OWES ISRAEL By Israel National News Staff

From: news@IsraelNationalNews.com:

WORLD OWES ISRAEL $23 BILLION
By Israel National News Staff

Israel has become a large-scale international lender in the past three years, with global sources owing Israel $23 billion at the end of
2005.
According to a Globes report, global debt to Israel rose 92% over thepast year.
Most of the debt ($22.7 billion) is to the private sector and Israeli banks are owed $3.1 billion. The public sector, though, led by the
Israeli government, continues to borrow, in order to recycle debts and cover budget deficits.
Israel´s gross external debt was $75.5 billion in 2005, a drop of $250million.

"The balance of Israel's external liabilities totalled some $153billion at the end of December 2005, a rise of $16.5 billion in 2005,"
a Bank of Israel statement read. "This is a positive development, caused by sizeable foreign direct and portfolio investment...The
increased profitability of the business sector, the contraction of the budget deficit, the improved geopolitical situation and the
accelerated pace of privatization (the sale of Bank Leumi and Israel Discount Bank) enabled Israel's economy to attract an unprecedented
amount of non-resident investment and to benefit from the global trend of international flows of capital into the emerging markets."

Of course their aim right now is to destroy the last vestiges of Faith that has survived their onslaught, as Christianity sadly did not at their hands- having infiltrated the Catholic Church and planting its Jewish Popes and other "Jewish" Christian clerics!!!

China will be the next Empire, the and will be the next Rising Dragon, taking its fat share of burnt offerings from the innocent, destroying their rights and freedoms which is after all what atheistic Communism stands for- the 'ruling Elite" dictating to the working enslaved masses!!
9/11 was concocted, planned and put into effect by all these power hungry participants who all share the ideologies of Pagan Zionism- world domination and totalitarian New World Order

Israel and its world Jewry PLAY ALL FIELDS, ARMING and AIDING BOTH SIDES in a CONFLICT, just as she has infiltrators/sayanem agents in ALL POLITICAL PARTIES AND GROUPS< be they Liberal, Conservative, Labour, Republican, Democrat, Christian Democrat, Green Party, Communist Leftie, Social Left- you name it, they are in there!!
She has been slowly destroying the USA, and has been seeking new pastures within the next green pastures of the Rising Sun- the next Chinese Empire.
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What did China have to do with 9-11?

by Dick Eastman http://bedoper.com/eastman

The Chinese gained from the 9-11 false-flag provocateur mass-murder asymetrical-warfare operation against the US and Islam.

(more below)

Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington

From: David Macko
To: anti-capitalism@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [A-C] Re: Zionist Domination

ï»¿
There certainly does seem to be at least a temporary working relationship
between Red China, Zionist Israel and the criminals who misrule us.
As you do so often, you provide a quite interesting and plausible theory.
Of course, we won't know who is at the top of the pyramid unless we
are totally conquered or totally defeat them, assuming we live so long.
----

From: "Patrick BURNAND" <pburnand@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Re: Zionist Domination

> Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>

Dick Eastman < olfriend@nwinfo.net >

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:51:27 -0000
From: "botalerts" <botalerts@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Action Alert: Buycott CNN!!

(the original gives links)
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/03/buycott.html

Now that CNN has broken the media boycott on 9-11 information with
its 3 Showbiz Tonight programs covering Charlie Sheen, Alex Jones
and other 9-11 leaders, it is time to reward CNN. How?

A buycott. A buycott is simply a reverse boycott: instead of saying
we won't buy a company's products until they start acting
responsibly, let's say we will buy their products as long as they
KEEP acting responsibly. This is like the idea of the old-fashion
Chinese doctor: he only gets paid if he keeps his patient well.

Specifically, here's the plan:

(1) Send a message to CNN thanking them for their fair coverage of 9-
11 on Showbiz Tonight.

(2) In the "My comments" box (lower right), copy and paste this:

As long as CNN continues to cover the question of whether 9-11 was
an inside job fairly and openly (on its news programs as well as
entertainment programs) -- I pledge to make EVERY EFFORT to buy the
products and services advertised on CNN whenever I have the choice.

(3) Give your real name and other information.

If enough of us do this, it will encourage CNN to "do well by doing
good".

Pass this message on widely ... let's make this a viral campaign
which causes a tipping point in spreading the truth.

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:29:00 -0500
From: ranger116@webtv.net
Subject: 500,000 Immigrants protest immigration law changes+Sheen WTC 9/11

500,000 Immigrants protest immigration law changes+Sheen WTC 9/11

500,000 Immigrants protest immigration law changes
(That means 299,500,000 Americans Did Not Protest Tighter immigration
laws ? !)
Immigration issue roil both sides of
debate - Politics - MSNBC.com

Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11442705/

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Charlie Sheen - A True American Patriot

Address:http://www.rense.com/general70/patriot.htm

Showbiz Tonight Transcript Friday 24th Featuring Alex Jones

Address:http://infowars.net/articles/march2006/250306Transcript.htm

( Don't forget to mark Charlie's TV show down on you TV ratings surveys
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Close-Up of WTC-7 Collapse Footage Shows Unmistakable Demolition Charges

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Charlie Sheen: 'Challenge Me On the Facts'

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Bush Launches Massive Shock & Awe Offensive... Against U.S. Media |
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The Gruesome Reality of Operation Swarmer

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"It feels like you and I have started the revolution and God bless
America." - Charlie Sheen

Welcome to "No More BS" week at mujca.com ! Today we are celebrating
Charlie Sheen's amazing appearances this week on CNN and Prison Planet.
Talk about speaking truth to power--it doesn't get any better than this.
Charlie Sheen has blown the mainstream media lid off 9/11 truth.
Kudos to Alex Jones for lighting the fuse on Charlie's bombshell,
and to all of you who have worked so hard to get us where we are now.
We're paying tribute to Charlie's in-your-face no-BS truth talk by
featuring two hard-hitting pieces that don't suffer 9/11 fools gladly,
one by former top Labor Department Economist Morgan Reynolds, and
another forwarded piece from Sean McBride.
1) Charlie Sheen Ignites 9/11 Truth Firestorm: "Challenge Me On the
Facts!"

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/240306challengeme.htm

2) Sean McBride: Why the Official Story on 9/11 is Going to Collapse

3) Morgan Reynolds Makes Mincemeat of "Demolition Denial"
http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=refuting_demolition_debunkers

4) David Griffin talk in Oakland Thursday, March 30th at 7:00 p.m. PT
(10 p.m. ET, etc.) -- listen live on the web! Info at:
http://www.pdeastbay.org/911MythReality
1) Charlie Sheen Demolishes 9/11 Coverup on CNN!

For those of you who spent last week in a cave in Afghanistan, you can
catch up on the Charlie Sheen story at:

http://911blogger.com
http://www.prisonplanet.com

In the story below, Charlie stands up to the usual pack of
drooling-idiot cowards who refute 9/11 truth-tellers with insults
instead of arguments. (This week we're going to insult them right back!)
For a meditation on how insults and denigration are the central strategy
of the 9/11 coverup crew, see:

http://mujca.com/sanderhicksreview.htm

Charlie Sheen: 'Challenge Me On the Facts'

Actor's first response since media firestorm over 9/11 comments

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | March 24 2006

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/240306challengeme.htm
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_cnn_poll_shows_82_percent_support.htm

http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/23968.exclude.html

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/showbiz.tonight/

Charlie Sheen has responded publicly for the first time since the media
firestorm over his comments by challenging his detractors to debate him
on the evidence of 9/11 and not issues relating to his personal life.
"I am an American citizen who loves my country and as a citizen
with my passion for this great country I demand that I be challenged on
the facts not on immature behavior from twenty years ago," said Sheen.
"If they continue to attack me personally it only gives credence to
our side of the argument."
Sheen elaborated on how developments during the course of the week had
unfolded and his reaction to them.
"All I can say is wow! Wow! this has been some kind of week I can
tell you."
Sheen tipped his hat to A.J. Hammer and CNN's Showbiz Tonight for having
the guts to cover the story and give 9/11 skeptics a balanced platform
on which to discuss the issues.

He called the CNN poll showing around 82% support his stance on
9/11 an
"inspiration" and "staggering" but Sheen also outlined the fact that he
was not entirely surprised by the outcome. Sheen said he was encouraged
by the support shown on blogs and message boards across the Internet.

The poll directly contradicts a line of attack used on a Hannity and
Colmes piece Thursday night which claimed that Sheen's views didn't
reflect the mainstream of America. If we are to treat an 82% majority as
the mainstream then that accusation is completely fraudulent.
Sheen addressed the attack pieces generated from his comments.

"The majority of them, in fact 90% of them, were attacking me
personally, were attacking my credibility, were attacking my
observational or talents of insight or observance and what they did not
attack is the specific points that you and I raised, the points that
generate the most controversy about the events," Sheen told the Alex
Jones Show.

"For anyone to have any kind of opinion on something that warrants an
opinion I guess you have to be squeaky clean."
Sheen made the point that the hit pieces singled out his quotes relating
to his first reaction to 9/11, and in particular the suspicious collapse
of the buildings, but deliberately a oided the hardcore evidence he
later presented, making him appear uninformed when in fact he had
documented why he had serious doubts about the official story.

"I was vilified for expressing my feelings
about what I saw and I was demonized for expressing my gut reaction to
what I saw."
Even so, both Dan Rather and Peter Jennings' gut instincts were that the
collapse of the buildings looked like controlled demolition so Sheen is
hardly on a skinny branch in simply stating what common sense told him
at the time.
"When they pigeon-hole me into the tin foil hat wearing conspiracy
knuckle-head brigade they don't mention those quotes by Peter Jennings
and Dan Rather," said Sheen.

Sheen responded to the claims made by National Geographic producer
Nicole Rittenmeyer aired by CNN on Wednesday night. Rittenmeyer
insinuated that her conclusions on 9/11 were credible simply due to the
fact that the series she produced had high viewing figures.

"This woman based all of her credibility on the ratings that the show
received and I find that ludicrous because what that speaks to is
people's interest. Whether you believe the official story or you're
curious about an alternate viewpoint so she kind of shot herself in the
foot talking about 'this is the base of my credibility', 'this is why
I'm right, because a lot of people watched it', you know I could say the
same thing about the reaction to my comments this week....but I'm not
saying that I'm just here to remind people that the only credibility
that I need is what I have and that is as an upstanding taxpaying
American citizen who loves his country and who refuses to stand by as
this
level of insanity is blanketed over obvious truths."

Sheen reiterated his main focus as being on what caused Building 7,
which wasn't hit by a plane,
To become only the third steel building in history to collapse from
fire damage (the other two being the twin towers). Photographs taken
prior to the building's collapse show minor fires before it falls in a
textbook demolition fashion.
"If there's a problem with Building 7 then there's a problem with the
whole damn thing and guess what? There's a serious problem with Building
7," said Sheen.
Sheen demanded that Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex,
explain what he meant when he told a September 2002 PBS documentary
'America Rebuilds' that the decision was made to "pull" the
building, which is a demolition term for deliberate implosion.
"When someone makes a statement like that I think it warrants a follow
up response," said Sheen.
"In fact you know what I'll come right out and say that I'm
personally requesting a direct answer from Mr. Silverstein about what he
meant....give him my number tell him to call me I'm just curious. Tell
him to call CNN tell him to call somebody because you cannot make a
statement like that and not follow it up, and not back it up and not
explain it."
"Anyone that cannot view this as a controlled demolition, I would
have to say that their chair was not facing the television. Anyone that
can look at this and say 'yes, that is a random event caused by fire'
really needs psychiatric evaluation," said Sheen.
Sheen challenged the mainstream media to run a poll on Building 7 asking
if viewers believe from video evidence that the building was brought
down by means of controlled implosion.
Sheen again underscored his challenge to his detractors to debate him on
the evidence and not idle gossip about his private life and his family.
"I ask that they look at the evidence and they debate myself,
yourself, people that support us on those specific issues. Not about me
personally, not about what they think about me personally not about what
they think they know about me personally, just about the facts. I issue
that challenge."
Sheen expressed his excitement at the response that his stance received
and hinted that this was only the beginning of the journey.
"It feels like you and I have started the revolution and God bless
America," said Sheen in closing.
* * *
This landed in my inbox just before the Sheen affair erupted.
Synchronicity?
2) Why the Official Story on 9/11 is Going to Collapse
by Sean McBride
The official story on 9/11 is so absurd and ridiculous on its face,
in so many different but consistent ways, that one would have to have a
room temperature IQ to believe it. The story is indefensible because
whatever group that was behind this operation severely bungled the job,
in ways which make the Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty attack and
Iran-Contra look relatively like works of genius.
In fair and open debate on the Internet, the official story has been
thoroughly demolished. Defenders of the official story for the most part
are now afraid to raise their heads, and have been sent running for the
tall grass. Only a single force is holding the official story in place:
brutal and systematic censorship by the mainstream media of discussion
of nearly all aspects of 9/11. Eventually we are going to see an open
revolt from within the journalistic establishment by people with better
than room temperature IQs who can no longer bear the bullshit being
promoted by the tiny cabal of billionaires which owns CNN, MSNBC, Fox
News, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal
and the rest of the thoroughly discredited mainstream media.
The cabal which is protecting the official lies about 9/11 is the
very same cabal which drove America into the disastrous Iraq War. The
collapse of the war effort in Iraq will help foster the collapse of the
official story on 9/11. The individuals behind these crimes have placed
themselves in a perilous position. Committing further crimes --
including a nuclear 9/11 Part II -- will only make their position much
worse. No member of the American power elite and national security
community who is sane will want to have anything to do with any more of
their bright ideas, and will be on a maximum state of alert to prevent
them from committing further damage.
What would be a suitable punishment for crimes of this magnitude?
Perhaps a group public hanging on international television?
* * *
3) Morgan Reynolds: Refuting the Demolition Debunkers

http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=refuting_demolition_debunkers

Morgan Reynolds will be speaking in Colorado on March 31st:

http://911analysis.com/

and in Madison, Wisconsin, his alma mater, on May 6th--stay tuned to
http://mujca.com for details.
Here's my impression of the "Demolition Debunkers" debate, which must be
read at the above-listed website since its format doesn't copy into
email. (In fairness it must be pointed out that Michiel Brumsen admits
that he is positing a demolition debunking purely for the sake of
argument--not because he can possibly believe a word of what he is
saying.)
Brumsen:
"Given that some of the arguments put forth to explain the
apparent transparency of the emperor's apparel cannot be dismissed out
of hand--for example, the statistical possibility that identical
simultaneous quantum wave collapses of all of the subatomic particles in
the atoms of the molecules that made up the fabric of the emperor's
apparel could have allowed a sufficient number of photons to pass
through/around slat-like interference patterns generated by a process
that can only be expressed in mathematical terms and is thus
counterintuitive to mere laymen--"
Reynolds: Yah hey, enough already!
* * *
4) David Ray Griffin talk "9/11: The Myth & The Reality" to
stream live on KMUD
Dear Fellow 9/11 Truth Seekers,
The David Ray Griffin talk, "9/11: The Myth & The Reality", on
Thursday, March 30th at 7:00p.m. p.s.t. in Oakland CA at the Grand Lake
Theater will be web-streamed live. You can go to http://www.kmud.org/
that night and click on the "Listen Now" link. Please let your circle
know about this great opportunity. We've paid for the band-width, so
let's use it!

For more information about the event, please go to

www.pdeastbay.org/911MythReality

Thanks,
Greg Henricks
Progressive Democrats-East Bay
David Ray Griffin March 30th Event Organizer
* * *
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write:
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:07:29 -0500
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
Subject: Re: We ain't out of the woods yet people!

Of course they are greed does that,LOL
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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:00 PM
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> I don't know much about DBSmith, but from what i received in email from a
friend showed me he's a charlatan, but the itch i can't seem to scratch away
is why all of a sudden is MSM "allowing" 9/11 inside job to come out? some
people say that its the elites are fighting amonst each other and hanging
bush out to dry for 911.
>
>
> Needless to say, this is no time to pat ourselves on the back, we have
established a beach head on the shores of the enemy citadel, CHARGE!!!!
>
> I concur with prez regarding angie respond to this, she knows about this
kind of stuff better than anyone.
>
> "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org> wrote:
> Dear 9/11 Colleagues,
> I hope Angie has time to respond to this because she's so highly
> qualified in these particular matters.
> I don't find this analysis at all compelling. Rather, I think
> it's quite forced--and thus unconvincing.
> I'm only slightly familiar with Daryl Bradford Smith's earlier
> commentary but thus far I see him as just one more kook much more
> interested in attracting attention to himself than in accomplishing
> anything significant. In fact, this is giving him the benefit of the
> doubt because the alternative is that he's a divide-and-conquer
> specialist intent on causing as much division and suspicion as possible
> within the 9/11 Truth Movement. Please see my earlier comment on him
> pasted at bottom of this--and note that in this instance also he was
> being divisive rather than unifying.
> With highest regards,
> Pondo
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Mar 24, 2006, at 7:15 PM, JP Liggett wrote:
>
>
> a very compelling read. I too had thought about this, but this article
> hits the nail on the head. If there are gatekeepers sponsoring the
> exposure, lets help them really get the word out.
>
> It seems to me that if 9/11 starts getting mainstream, we may consider
> using the 9/11 exposure force to truly change our society. Perhaps we
> can use it on a global scale not just the USA.
>
> We can all envision a more just society, with a strong social fabric,
> to become a beacon of hope for positive social change. A real global
> golden jubilee.
>
> To that ends, we could consider nationalization of all energy, banking
> and insurance companies, in the name of the 911 victims. These
> companies take billions of dollars of our economy and our pockets, and
> corrupt/disrupt our society. worldwide.
>
> Let work for Public video and audio in every legislature, courtroom,
> bar association and hearing room. Just a couple of ideas to keep it
> going. Some people have said, OK, we know about 9-11 being an inside
> job, now what do we do?
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> From: "President, USA Exile Govt."
>
> Date: December 22, 2005 4:34:26 PM EST
> To: keith lampe
>
> Subject: A Guest Editorial
>
> GOVERNMENT OF THE USA IN EXILE
> Free Americans Reaching Out to Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning
> to Breathe Free
> Via
>
> December 22, 2005
>
> Dear Friends and Colleagues,
> I'm quite grateful to Jeremy below for his tremendously important
> Editorial.
> I'd been equally shocked by Daryl Bradford Smith's two-faced
> behavior (i.e., hip to 9/11 Inside Job but not to ETs) and have been
> trying to get time to express myself about it. Ah, but Jeremy's
> expression is both more polite and more thorough than mine would have
> been.
> What's at stake here most importantly is that unless we overcome
> being so divided (and thus so conquered), we stand little chance in our
> resistance to the Fourth Reich's current main puppets, the Bush Junta.
> There must be a coalition much much broader than anything to date
> in homeplanet history. It must include nearly everyone opposed to the
> Bush Junta and it must behave in a way signifying it knows that the
> Fourth Reich controls both mainstream US political parties. (So we can
> avoid all the current loyal-opposition bullshit.) If a person is
> opposed to the junta because he or she thinks it isn't adequately
> preparing a defense against an ET invasion, I'm quite willing to work
> with that person within certain specific contexts of resistance even
> though I think it's highly likely that we'd already have been invaded
> if any of the ETs had that sort of interest.
> But how can we build such a broad coalition when someone like
> Smith--so well-informed in nearly all respects--is in such hysterical
> Denial merely about visits by folks from various off-planet cultures?
> What is it about this sort of info that's so nerve-wracking to
> him? I'm not sure but I want to suggest that in the interests of
> coalition-building we should minimize negative moral judgments about
> him and instead concentrate on the human nervous system's quite limited
> ability to absorb what certain existentialists called nonbeing--and
> which we might these days call bummers.
> There are yogas available--in secular scientific form, let me
> hasten to add--which as daily practices can steadily increase our
> neural stamina--that is, increase the quantities of bummers we can
> absorb before physiologically (and thus a negative moral judgment here
> is inappropriate) needing to escape into Denial: All Work and No Play
> Makes Jack a Dull Boy. Whenever I exceed the quantities I can handle,
> I succumb to Information Illness: mainly a spectacular exhaustion but
> also usually a bit of vague depression.) I wish I could learn to
> discern when I've nearly exceeded what I can handle.
> Never before in homeplanet history have people had to face so many
> different sorts of bummers simultaneously. The lower the human
> population-density you inhabit, the easier it is. It's toughest of all
> for those who have lived many consecutive years within Manhattan
> Island's overwhelming densities--as people like Danny Schechter and A.
> J. Weberman so poignantly exemplify.
> If any of you have friends who aren't yet convinced that we're
> being visited by folks from more mature solar systems, please ask them
> to absorb the 2001 National Press Club news conference featured at
> .
> Another totally convincing portrayal--though much less
> accessible--is the 1997 three-part BBC World Service radio series. In
> fact, I'll cover costs of obtaining a copy of those three broadcasts
> for the first person to email me that he or she will do so. (Evidently
> a credit card is necessary and I disdain them.) It was produced by a
> fiction writer named Anthony Gray, who went into it totally skeptically
> (probably the only reason BBC hired him) but evolved into total
> acceptance. The BBC was so embarrassed by his sudden acceptance that
> it aired his shows at a time (0230-0300 GMT) guaranteeing the smallest
> possible European audience. They occurred the last Friday of August
> and the first two Fridays of September. I don't have a 1997 calendar
> but I think the dates would be 8/29, 9/5 and 9/12.
> In any case, let's work on convening all the various US movements
> so they can--for example--agree on targets for massive boycotts. This
> way, we stand a chance of finally becoming very expensive for the
> reichers--and thus perhaps finally effective enough to influence their
> behavior in a manner favorable to the survival of humans and other
> species. For money is nearly all they understand.
> Yours for all
> species,
> Keith Lampe,
> Ro-Non-So-Te,
> Ponderosa Pine
> Transition Prez
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: linelites@mindspring.com
> Date: December 22, 2005 12:37:13 AM EST
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [911TruthAction] Article on Daryl Bradford Smith
> Reply-To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> I wrote the following and send it along to others of the truth movement
> fyi.... Jeremy
>
> TOLERATING OUTRAGOUS CONSPIRACY THEORIES
>
> I am very active in the 911 truth movement.
>
> Last night I listened to an internet broadcast by Daryl Bradford
> Smith with
> guest Eric Hufschmidt, creator of the seminal 911 video and
> book, Painful
> Deceptions and Painful Questions.
>
> Both were bemoaning the "contamination" of the 911 truth movement
> by people who believe in UFOs and other mysteries certified by a
> consensus of mainstream
> academia as unworthy of serious study. The Amazing Randi would be
> proud to join
> in their call for dismissing such topics. I am not.
>
> Mr. Smith has posted a statement on his site calling for all
> rational people
> to castigate those who even discuss topics such as UFOs. I wrote Mr.
> Smith,
> stating that a respect for others' beliefs is fundamental in any effort
> to convince
> others of a truth they are yet unaware of. His response was
> unrelenting.
>
> Issac Newton and Edmund Haley were friends. They once had a
> discussion on
> alchemy. You may know that Newton spent half his labors on the study
> of alchemy.
> When Haley protested this foolishness, Newton responded, "I, sir, have
> studied
> the subject, you have not."
>
> And so it is with UFOs and Crop Circles. Anyone who dismisses
> them as
> ridiculous has not done their homework. Has Mr. Smith studied the
> cases of Betty and Barney
> Hill, the Allagash incident, Travis Walton, Roswell, the works of
> Stanton Friedman,
> Alan Hynek, John Mack, the governments of Belgium, France, Mexico, et
> al. and a
> whole shipload of other witnesses, researchers and officials whose
> claims and empirical
> data have withstood years of assault by those out to prove them
> unworthy?
>
> Did he talk to the late Professor Hawkins who discovered five new
> theorems
> from the Crop Circle geometry? Can he explain the molecular change in
> the stalks
> of plants bent over in Crop Circles? Can he explain the
> electromagnetic anomalies
> measured in the circles or a host of other anomalies that defy a
> manmade explanation?
> If he has, I sure wish he would share his logical conclusions with the
> rest of the
> world so we can put these mysteries aside. But I'm willing to venture
> a high
> probability that he has no answers. He ain't alone. But the rest of
> us don't
> feel a necessity to chide others for their beliefs just because the
> subject matter
> is discussed by a wide variety of persons with claims that have little
> or no scientific
> backing.......so far.
>
> In a high-level conspiracy like 911, the powers behind it seem to
> employ a
> tactic of infiltrating the truth movement with disinformation. The
> purpose is so
> that ordinary people looking into the conspiracy, but not yet well
> informed of the
> facts, will see a lie and will then quickly dismiss the whole effort to
> uncover
> a conspiracy as just so much nonsense. Mr. Smith seems to have fallen
> victim not
> so much to the act of covert disinformation, (though there seems to be
> plenty of
> that in the UFO and crop circle field, as Dr. Hynek and George
> Wingfield and others
> have stated), but by his rejection of the innocent interpretations of a
> phenomenon
> by people with no allegiance to the scientific method. Such persons
> are not necessarily
> wrong nor are they unworthy of a voice in society.
>
> Scientifically, no one can say anything with 100% certainty. One
> can only
> give it a high or low degree of probability, based on a logical
> evaluation of how
> the data supports a working hypothesis. More and more, what was once
> considered
> ridiculous is becoming empirical. Professor Gary Schwartz's work with
> mediums
> and Professor Ian Stevenson's work on reincarnation and other rigorous
> studies of
> the paranormal hearken back to days when Giordano Bruno was burned for
> heresy as
> the old school began to crumble. Any fool can see the sun goes around
> the earth.
> It takes a special fool to see beyond the veil.
>
> If Mr. Smith feels that people who think that we are being visited
> by aliens
> should be burned at the stake, that's his misfortune. But for those of
> us
> who are actively trying to spread 911 truth, he is a burden in our
> efforts to convince
> others to have an open mind.
>
> The opinion polls show 80 percent of Americans think the government
> is hiding
> knowledge of the existence of extraterrestrial life forms. Shall we
> not talk to
> those people? Mr. Smith's call for chastising unofficial beliefs is
> not only
> ironic; it is limited hangout in our growth as a civilization.
>
> I can forgive Eric for overactive skepticism. Perhaps his
> intolerance is a
> by-product of an extremely analytical mind that gave us his videos and
> books. I
> prefer to believe that one day both of these men and others who share
> their disdain
> for outrageous conspiracy theories will one day see that all is
> relative and there
> are more things in heaven and earth that are dreamt of in our
> philosophy.
>
> ========================================================================
> ==
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and
hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it
costs nothing to be a patriot.
> - Notebook, 1904
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:34:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: We ain't out of the woods yet people!

I got a very interesting and somewhat disturbing email about my show a month or 2 ago and one of the links that he sent me was to smiths site not to mention a few others he started the email off by thanking me for stepping up to the plate and commending me for it. But then he went on to say that he was going to tell me what he tells Alex Jones and others in our camp. That we have to start naming names. It gets weird right about this point. He then goes on to say that ITS THE JEWS! and then goes on a bit of a diatribe. Well, On my show I DO NAME NAMES. Like Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and so on. I then responded by saying that whenever someone just lumps an entire ethnic and or religious group togehter into one pile that I become a bit suspiscious and that either he is an ill informed biggot and needs to educate himself a little more or that he is a cointelpro agent trying to suck me and others into commiting acts of evil. I also said that I would look into any information
that he sent me and have an open mind. I also told him that his failure to differentiate between Jews and zionists is one of the things that made me suspiscious and that were he wise and or earnest he would do so. I told him that yes there IS a zionist element to all this but that my research has lead me to the jesuit order as well who are the ones that resurrected the illuminati along with the Rothschilds and that they are partners in this evil. I then addressed it on my next show as well. I never got a reply. Hmm. Rather confirms my suspiscion.

Kevin

kitty285 <kitty285@charter.net> wrote:
Of course they are greed does that,LOL
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:34:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Further comments: What did China have to do with 9-11?

have you read michael collins piper's Final Judgement?

he says theres a strange chinese/israeli connection regarding the red bomb and israel

Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:
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March 25, 2006
Subject: What did China have to do with 9-11?

Hi Dick
nice to have you back

I agree with much of what you wrote about What did China have to do with 9-11?

Another point to add about the relationship between Israel and Communist China is the very important fact that the Jews exported Communism to China, affecting that country like no other, even more so than the "Soviet Union".

There are also a huge number of Chinese immigrant workers within Occupied Palestine,aka Israel, who are treated like cheap slave labour and given no employment rights but they still dumbly go there for 'work'.

Yes indeed, Israel has through its Espionage channels, sold US military secrets not only to China but also to Russia and India with whom she has very close covert military and economic relations. ( The Armageddon Network -- book on Israeli Firsters and another Richard Perle protÃ©gÃ© - http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/112684/841126010.html

Israeli Spy Data http://www.rense.com/Datapages/Israeldata.html;

20 Years of Neocon Spying and Betrayal http://www.counterpunch.org/green09032004.html

Israel has become a large-scale international lender in the past three years, with global sources owing Israel $23 billion at the end of
2005.
According to a Globes report, global debt to Israel rose 92% over thepast year.
Most of the debt ($22.7 billion) is to the private sector and Israeli banks are owed $3.1 billion. The public sector, though, led by the
Israeli government, continues to borrow, in order to recycle debts and cover budget deficits.
Israelâ€™s gross external debt was $75.5 billion in 2005, a drop of $250million.

â€œThe balance of Israel's external liabilities totalled some $153billion at the end of December 2005, a rise of $16.5 billion in 2005,â€
a Bank of Israel statement read. â€œThis is a positive development, caused by sizeable foreign direct and portfolio investmentâ€¦The
increased profitability of the business sector, the contraction of the budget deficit, the improved geopolitical situation and the
accelerated pace of privatization (the sale of Bank Leumi and Israel Discount Bank) enabled Israel's economy to attract an unprecedented
amount of non-resident investment and to benefit from the global trend of international flows of capital into the emerging markets.â€

The Jews have been very adept at destroying other countries cultures and traditions which is what they did to China and to Japan also, turning them both into Capitalist hungry countries though China seeks far more Israel corrupted Russia also, and has had its beastly claws in the US, UK and throughout Europe, especially Denmark, and the Netherlands, which is a hotbed of Jewish corruption and perversion.

Of course their aim right now is to destroy the last vestiges of Faith that has survived their onslaught, as Christianity sadly did not at their hands- having infiltrated the Catholic Church and planting its Jewish Popes and other "Jewish" Christian clerics!!!

China will be the next Empire, the and will be the next Rising Dragon, taking its fat share of burnt offerings from the innocent, destroying their rights and freedoms which is after all what atheistic Communism stands for- the 'ruling Elite" dictating to the working enslaved masses!!
9/11 was concocted, planned and put into effect by all these power hungry participants who all share the ideologies of Pagan Zionism- world domination and totalitarian New World Order

Israel and its world Jewry PLAY ALL FIELDS, ARMING and AIDING BOTH SIDES in a CONFLICT, just as she has infiltrators/sayanem agents in ALL POLITICAL PARTIES AND GROUPS< be they Liberal, Conservative, Labour, Republican, Democrat, Christian Democrat, Green Party, Communist Leftie, Social Left- you name it, they are in there!!
She has been slowly destroying the USA, and has been seeking new pastures within the next green pastures of the Rising Sun- the next Chinese Empire.
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What did China have to do with 9-11?

by Dick Eastman http://bedoper.com/eastman

The Chinese gained from the 9-11 false-flag provocateur mass-murder asymetrical-warfare operation against the US and Islam.

The Moslem Taliban were erradicating the opium growing in Afganistan -- which cut shipments of opium over the old silk road to China which cut the production and world distribution of Chinese heroin -- of which a trillion dollars worth was laundered into London, US, Swiss, German and French merchant banks each year where it was (is) invested in China's "miraculous" super industrialization (with slave-labor compensation) -- the Chinese needed the Taliban taken down and the so-called "Norther Alliance" drug-lords put in control. 9-11 accomplished this. (Remember how Taliban leader Mohammed Omar told Bush that he would extradite bin Laden to the U.S. immediately if Bush would only show some evidence linking bin Laden to 9-11 -- Bush refused and invaded -- and you know the rest of that story.

The Moslems under Han Red Chinese domination had been looking to the Taliban for religious inspiration in the face of Chinese enforced atheism and persecution and racial discrimination. The Chinese needed the (stupid) U.S. to be fooled by the 9-11 false-flag attack so that they would (with neo-con management) attack and destroy the government of the religious clean-living Taliban.

China has never given up the goal of defeating the U.S. -- essentially Jeffersonian bourgeois liberalism -- but they have proceeded in surreptitious cunning -- attacking our culture, our economy, our institutions, our relations with the world. The 9-11 wars exhaust America and the make America hated in the world. The Chinese have long past the point where they are stronger than the U.S. in the world -- all of the wealth of the U.S. is concentrated in internationalist ruling-class families who are allied with Chinese ruling class power -- the power that enslaves China today in the coils of market totalitarianism.

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Dick Eastman
Yakima, Washington

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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:38:00 -0500
From: "kitty285" <kitty285@charter.net>
Subject: Re: How Television Controls And Programs Minds

I belong to a group for ghost ect just for the fun of it.
But everyone is talking about TV voices when they lay down to sleep,many
hear them,including myself,now i hear them sometimes when im up walking
around,nope not crazy,just something for you all to think about...Kitty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Naveed" <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
To: <911truthaction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:53 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] How Television Controls And Programs Minds

>
>
http://www.global-conspiracies.com/how_television_controls_and_programs_mind
s.htm
>
> I think this is partially the reason for why the asshats that be
were able to get away with selling the 9/11 fairytale, once again the TV can
be a tool to educate or to enslave, purely dependent on programming (no pun
intended)
> How Television Controls And Programs Minds
> Turn Off Your Television
> By L. Wolfe
> 3-14-5
> The subconcscious is powerful. It is aware of every particle and detail
around you. But it doesn't know the difference between fact or fiction and
acts on all information passing through the conscious mind as fact, and
responds to it. So what do you think happens when you watch silly, moron,
goofy commercials and television programs? They are training your thought
processes.
>
>
> Hey buddy, I'm talking to you. Yes, you, the guy sitting in front of the
television. Turn down the sound a bit, so that you can hear what I am
saying. Now, try to concentrate on what I am going to say. I want to talk to
you about your favorite pastime. No, it's not baseball or football, although
it does have something to do with your interest in spectator sports. I'm
talking about what you were just doing: watching television.
>
> Do you have any idea about how much time you spend in front of the
television set? According to the latest studies, the average American now
spends between five and six hours a day watching television. Let's put that
in perspective: that is more time than you spend doing anything else but
sleeping or working, if you are lucky enough to still have a job.
>
> That's more time than you spend eating, more time than you spend with your
wife alone, more time than with the kids. It's even worse with your
children. According to these same studies, young children below school age
watch more than eight hours each day. School age children watch a little
under eight hours a day. In 1980, the average 20-year-old had watched the
equivalent of 14 months of television in his or her brief lifetime. {That's
14 months, 24 hours a day.}
>
> More recent figures show that the numbers have climbed: the 20-year-old
has spent closer to two full years of his or her life in front of the
television set. At the same time, the researchers have noted a disturbing
phenomena. It seems that we Americans are getting progressively more
{stupid}. They note a decline in reading and comprehension levels in all age
groups tested. Americans read less and understand what they read less than
they did 10 years ago, less than they have at any time since research began
to study such things.
>
> As for writing skills, Americans are, in general, unable to write more
than a few simple sentences. We are among the least literate people on this
planet, and we're getting worse. It's the change--the constant trendline
downward--that interests these researchers. More than one study has
correlated this increasing stupidity of our population to the amount of
television they watch.
>
> Interestingly, the studies found that it doesn't matter what people watch,
whether it's ``The Simpsons'' or ``McNeil/Lehrer,'' or ``Murphy Brown'' or
``Nightline':' the more television you watch, the {less literate, the more
stupid} you are. The growth in television watching had surprised some of the
researchers. Back a decade ago, they were predicting that television
watching would level off and might actually decline. It had reached an
absolute saturation point.
>
> They were right for so-called network television; figures show a steady
dropoff of viewership. But that drop is more than made up for by the growth
of cable television, with its smorgasbord of channels, one for almost every
perversion. Especially in urban and suburban areas, Americans are hard-wired
to more than 100 different channels that provide them with all news, like
CNN, all movies, all comedy, all sports, all weather, all financial news and
a liberal dose of straight pornography.
>
> The researchers had also failed to predict the market penetration of first
beta and then VHS video recorders; they made it possible to watch one thing
and record another for later viewing. They also offered access to movies not
available on networks or even cable channels as well as home videos,
recorded on your own little camcorder. The proliferation of home video
equipment has involved families in video-related activities which are not
even considered in the cumulative totals for time Americans spend watching
television.
>
> You might not actually realize how much you are watching television. But
think for a moment. When you come home, you turn the television on, if it
isn't on already. You read the paper with it on, half glancing at what is on
the screen, catching a bit of the news, or the plot of a show. You eat with
it on, maybe in the background, listening for a score or something that
happens to a character in a show you follow.
>
> When something you are interested in, a show or basketball game, is on,
the set becomes the center of attention. So your attention to what is on may
vary in intensity, but there is almost no point when you are home, and
inside, and have the set completely off. Isn't that right? The studies did
not break down the periods of time people watched television, according to
the intensity of their viewing.
>
> But the point is still made: you compulsively turn the television on and
spend a good portion of your waking hours glued to the tube. And the studies
also showed that many people can't sleep without the television turned on!
Brainwashing Now, I'm sure you have heard that watching too much television
is bad for your health. They put stories like that on the evening news. Bad
for your eyes to stare at the screen, they say. Especially bad if you sit
too close. Well, I want to make another point.
>
> We've already shown that you are addicted to the tube, watching it between
six and eight hour a day. But it is an addiction that {brainwashes} you.
There are two kinds of brainwashing. The one that's called {hard}
brainwashing is the type you're most familiar with. You've got a pretty good
image of it from some of those old Korean war movies. They take some guy, an
American patriot, drag him into a room, torture him, pump him full of drugs,
and after a struggle, get him to renounce his country and his beliefs. He
usually undergoes a personality change, signified by an ever-present smile
and blank stare.
>
> This brainwashing is called {hard} because its methods are overt. The
controlled environment is obvious to the victim; so is the terror. The
victim is overwhelmed by a seemingly omnipotent external force, and a
feeling of intense isolation is induced. The victim's moral strength is
sapped, and slowly he embraces his torturers. It is man's moral strength
that informs and orders his power of reason; without it, the mind becomes
little more than a recording machine waiting for imprints. No one is saying
that you have been a victim of {hard} brainwashing. But you have been
brainwashed, just as effectively as those people in the movies. The blank
stare? Did you ever look at what you look like while watching television?
>
> If the angle is right, you might catch your own reflection in the screen.
Jaw slightly open, lips relaxed into a smile. The blank stare of a
television zombie. This is {soft} brainwashing, even more effective because
its victims go about their lives unaware of what is being done to them.
Television, with its reach into nearly every American home, creates the
basis for the mass brainwashing of citizens, like you.
>
> It works on a principle of {tension and release}. Create tension, in a
controlled environment, increasing the level of stress. Then provide a
series of choices that provide release from the tension. As long as the
victim believes that the choices presented are the {only} choices available,
even if they are at first glance unacceptable, he will nevertheless,
ultimately seek release by choosing one of these unacceptable choices. Under
these circumstances, in a brainwashing, controlled environment, such
choice-making is not a ``rational'' experience. It does not involve the use
of man's creative mental powers; instead man is conditioned, like an animal,
to respond to the tension, by seeking release.
>
> The key to the success of this brainwashing process is the regulation of
both the tension and the perceived choices. As long as both are controlled,
then the range of outcomes is also controlled. The victim is induced to walk
down one of several pathways acceptable for his controllers. The
brainwashers call the tension-filled environment {social turbulence}. The
last decades have been full of such {social turbulence}--economic collapse,
regional wars, population disasters, ecological and biological catastrophes.
{Social turbulence} creates crises in perceptions, causing people to lose
their bearings.
>
> Adrift and confused, people seek release from the tension, following paths
that appear to lead to a simpler, less tension-filled life. There is no time
in such a process for rational consideration of complicated problems.
Television is the key vehicle for presenting both the tension and the
choices. It brings you the images of the tension, and serves up simple
answers. Television, in its world of semi-reality, of illusion, of escape
from reality, {is itself the single most important release from our
tension-wracked existence.} Eight hours a day, every day, through its
programming, you are being programmed.
>
> If you doubt me, think about one important choice that you have made
recently that was not in some way influenced by something that you have seen
on television. I bet you can't think of one. That's how controlled you are.
Who's Doing It But don't take my word for it. Ten years ago we spoke to a
man from a think tank called the Futures Group in Connecticut. Hal Becker
had spent more than 20 years of his life manipulating the minds of the
leaders of our society. Listen to what he said: {``I know the secret of
making the average American believe anything I want him to. Just let me
control television.
>
> Americans are wired into their television sets. Over the last 30 years,
they have come to look at their television sets and the images on the screen
as reality. You put something on television and it becomes reality. If the
world outside the television set contradicts the images, people start
changing the world to make it more like the images and sounds of their
television.
>
> Because its influence is so great, so pervasive, it has become part of our
lives. You lose your sense of what is being done to you, but your mind is
being shaped and moulded.''} ``Your mind is being shaped and moulded.'' If
that doesn't sound like brainwashing, I don't know what is. Becker speaks
with the elan of a network of brainwashers who have been programming your
lives, especially since the advent of television as a ``mass medium'' in the
late 1940s and early 1950s.
>
> This network numbers several tens of thousands worldwide. Occasionally one
appears on the nightly news to tell you what {you} are thinking, by
reporting the latest ``opinion polls.'' But for the most part, they work
behind the scenes, speaking to themselves and writing papers for their own
internal distribution. And though they work for many diverse groups, these
brainwashers are united by a common world view and common method. It is the
world view of a small elite, whose financial and political power rests in
institutions that pass this power on from generation to generation.
>
> They view the common folk like yourself as little better than beasts of
burden to be controlled and manipulated by a semi-feudal international
oligarchy, whose wealth, power and bloodlines entitle them to rule. One of
the oligarchy's institutions for manipulation of populations is located in a
suburb of London called Tavistock. The Tavistock Institute for Human
Relations, which also has a branch in Sussex, England, is the ``mother'' for
much of this extended network, of which Becker is a member. They are the
specialists in {both} hard and soft brainwashing.
>
> The Tavistock Institute is the psychological warfare arm of the British
Royal household. The oligarchs behind Tavistock, and similar outfits in the
United States and elsewhere, are determined that you should be a television
addict, sucking up a daily dose of brainwashing from the ``tube;'' that is
how they control you. Like his fellow brainwashers, Becker prides himself in
knowing the minds of his victims.
>
> He calls them ``saps.'' Man, he told an interviewer, should be called
``homo the sap.'' ``Soft'' brainwashing by television works through power of
suggestion. Television watching creates a state of drugged-like oblivion to
outside reality. The mind, its perceptions dulled by habituated viewing, is
ready to accept any new illusion of reality as presented on the tube. The
mind, in its drugged-like stupor of television watching, is prepared to
accept that the images that television {suggests} as reality {are} reality.
It will then struggle to form fit a contradictory reality into television
image, just as Becker claims. Another Tavistock brainwasher, Fred Emery, who
studied television for 25 years, confirms this.
>
> The television signal itself, he found, puts the viewer in this state of
drugged-like oblivion. Emery writes: ``Television as a media consists of a
constant visual signal of 50 half-frames per second. Our hypotheses
regarding this essential nature of the medium itself are:
>
> ``1) The constant visual stimulus fixates the viewer and causes the
habituation of response. The prefrontal and association areas of the cortex
are effectively dominated by the signal, the screen.
>
> ``2) The left cortical hemisphere--the center of visual and analytical
calculating processes--is effectively reduced in its functioning to tracking
changing images on the screen.
>
> ``3) Therefore, provided, the viewer keeps looking, he is unlikely to
reflect on what he is doing and what he is viewing. That is, he will be
aware, but unaware of his awareness....
>
> ``In other words, television can be seen partly as the technological
analogue of the hypnotist.''
>
> The key to making the brainwashing work is the {repetition of suggestion}
over time. With people watching the tube for 6 to 8 hours a day, there is
plenty of time for such repeated suggestion. Some Examples Let's look at an
example to make things a bit clearer. Think back about 20 years ago. Think
about what you thought about certain issues of the day. Think about those
same issues today; notice how you seemed to change {your} mind about them,
to become more tolerant of things you opposed vehemently before.
>
> It's your television watching that changed your mind, or to use Becker's
terms, ``shaped your perceptions.''
>
> Twenty years ago, most people thought that the lunacy that is now called
environmentalism, the idea that animals and plants should be protected on an
equal basis with human life, was screwy. It went against the basic concept
of Christian civilization that man is a higher species than and distinct
from the animals, and that it is man, by virtue of his being made in the
image of the living God, whose life is sacred.
>
> That was 20 years ago. But now, many people, maybe even you, seem to think
otherwise; there are even laws that say so. This contrary, anti-human view
of man being no more than equal to animals and plants was inserted into our
consciousness by the suggestion of television. Environmental lunacy was
scripted into network television shows, into televised movies, and into the
news. It started slowly, but picked up steam. Environmental spokesmen were
increasingly seen in the favorable glow of television.
>
> Those who opposed this view were shown in an unfavorable way. It was done
over time, with repetition. If you weren't completely won over, you were
made tolerant of the views of environmental lunatics whose statements were
morally and scientifically unsound. Let's take a more recent example: the
war against Iraq. That was a war made for television. In fact, it was a war
{organized} through television. Think back a year: How were Americans
prepared for the eventual slaughter of Iraqi women and children? Images on
the screen: Saddam Hussein, on one side, Hitler on the other.
>
> The images repeated in newscasts, backed up by scenes of alleged
atrocities in Kuwait. Then the war itself: the video-game like images of
``smart'' weapons killing Iraqi targets. Finally, the American military
commander-in-chief Gen. Norman Schwartzkopf, conducting a final press
briefing that was consciously orchestrated to resemble the winning Superbowl
coach describing his victory.
>
> Those were the images that overwhelmed our population. Only now, months
later, do we find out that the images had nothing to do with reality. The
Iraqi ``atrocities'' in Kuwait and elsewhere were exaggerated. Our ``smart''
weapons like the famous Patriot anti-missile system didn't really work.
>
> Oh, and the casualty figures: it seems that we murdered far more women and
children than we did soldiers. Hardly a ``glorious victory.'' But while it
might have made a difference if people knew this while the war was being
planned or in progress, polls show that Americans no longer find the war or
any stories about it ``interesting.''
>
> Looking at the question more broadly, where did your children get most of
their values, if not from what they saw on television? Parents might
counteract the influence of the infernal box, but they could not overcome
it. How could they, if they themselves have been brainwashed by the same box
and if their children spend more time with it than them? Studies show that
most of television programming is geared to a less than 5th grade
comprehension level; parents, like you, are themselves being remade in the
infantile images of the television screen. All of society becomes more
infantile, more easily controllable.
>
> As Emery explains: {``We are proposing that television as a simple
constant and repetitive and ambiguous visual stimulus, gradually closes down
the central nervous system of man.''} Becker holds a similar view of the
effect of television on American's ability to think:
>
> {``Americans don't really think--they have opinions and feelings.
Television creates the opinion and then validates it.''}
>
> Nowhere is this clearer than with politics. Television tells Americans
what to think about politicians, restricting choices to those acceptable to
the oligarchs whose financial power controls networks and major cable
channels. It tells people what has been said and what is ``important.''
Everything else is filtered out. You are told who can win and who can't. And
few people have the urge to look behind the images in the screen, to seek
content and truth in ideas and look for a high quality of leadership.
>
> Such an important matter as choosing a president becomes the same as
choosing a box of laundry detergent: a set of possibilities, whose limits
are determined, by the images on the screen. You are given the appearance of
freedom of choice, but that you have neither freedom nor real choice. That
is how the brainwashing works. ``Are they brainwashed by the tube,'' said
Becker to the interviewer. ``
>
> It is really more than that. I think that people have lost the ability to
relate the images of their own lives without television intervening to tell
them what it means. That is what we really mean when we say that we have a
wired society.'' Turn It Off! That was ten years ago. It has gotten far
worse since then.
>
> In coming issues, we will show you the brainwashers' vision of a hell on
earth and how television is being used to get us there; we will discuss
television programming, revealing how it has helped produce what is called a
``paradigm'' shift in values, creating an immoral society; we will explain
how the news is presented and how its presentation has been used to destroy
the English language; we will discuss the mass entertainment media, showing
who controls it and how; we will deal with America's addiction to spectator
sports and show how that too has helped make you passive and stupid; and
finally, we will show where we are headed, if we can't break our addiction
to the tube.
>
> So, after what I just told you, what do say, buddy? Do you want to stay
stupid and let your country go to hell in a basket? Why don't you just walk
over to the set and turn it off. That's right, completely off. Go on, you
can do it. Now isn't that better? Don't you feel a little better already?
You've just taken the first step in deprogramming yourself. It wasn't that
hard, was it? Until we speak again, try to keep it off. Now that will be a
bit harder.
>
> From New Federalist V6, #29.
>
>
>
> Comment
> From Ted Twietmeyer
> 3-14-5
>
> Regarding
> http://www.rense.com/general63/traid.htm
>
>
> On May 2 2004, I wrote a very similar article to this one, about
brainwashing and the Tavistock Institute. It was the first in my Couch
Patriot series (http://www.rense.com/general52/couch.htm).
>
> Their subversion of thought not just in America but around the world is
well known. Is it any wonder that satellite dish television is being brought
to the most remote corners of the earth, even if a solar panel is required ?
>
> Although it's easy to focus just on brainwashing of Americans, in reality
the entire world is at stake.
>
> Ted Twietmeyer
>
>
> Source: http://www.rense.com/general63/traid.htm
>
>
> In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and
hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it
costs nothing to be a patriot.
> - Notebook, 1904
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:42:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: We ain't out of the woods yet people!

ya its like saying the nazis speak for the entire german people by saying all jews are zionists!

btw did you get my email i sent to you and your friend who's working on your website from my other email address??

Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:
I got a very interesting and somewhat disturbing email about my show a month or 2 ago and one of the links that he sent me was to smiths site not to mention a few others he started the email off by thanking me for stepping up to the plate and commending me for it. But then he went on to say that he was going to tell me what he tells Alex Jones and others in our camp. That we have to start naming names. It gets weird right about this point. He then goes on to say that ITS THE JEWS! and then goes on a bit of a diatribe. Well, On my show I DO NAME NAMES. Like Rothschilds, Rockefellers, and so on. I then responded by saying that whenever someone just lumps an entire ethnic and or religious group togehter into one pile that I become a bit suspiscious and that either he is an ill informed biggot and needs to educate himself a little more or that he is a cointelpro agent trying to suck me and others into commiting acts of evil. I also said that I would look into any
information that he sent me and have an open mind. I also told him that his failure to differentiate between Jews and zionists is one of the things that made me suspiscious and that were he wise and or earnest he would do so. I told him that yes there IS a zionist element to all this but that my research has lead me to the jesuit order as well who are the ones that resurrected the illuminati along with the Rothschilds and that they are partners in this evil. I then addressed it on my next show as well. I never got a reply. Hmm. Rather confirms my suspiscion.

Kevin

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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:44:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: We ain't out of the woods yet people!

Not yet.

Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote: ya its like saying the nazis speak for the entire german people by saying all jews are zionists!

btw did you get my email i sent to you and your friend who's working on your website from my other email address??

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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:48:18 -0000
From: "angiesept11" <angiesept11@yahoo.com>
Subject: 911 Truth & "V for Vendetta" Campaigns

Someone should start one - a 9/11 truth education
campaign for those coming out of & going into
theatres where the new movie "V for Vendetta" is being
played and/or incorporate stuff from it into our regular
education efforts. Remember how some people gave out flyers
to patrons of one of Michael Moore's movies, a very
limited 9/11 hangout? Anyway, I saw a bootleg copy
version of this "V for Vendetta" movie. (You can buy bootleg
versions of DVD's on the streets for $5). Starts off
with the reading of a poem which refers to Guy Fawkes
Day and the revolutionary in the film wears a Guy Fawkes
mask throughout. See this Barry Zwicker article about the Guy
Fawkes incident, comparing it to the 9/11 false flag operation here:
http://www.communitycurrency.org/11-5.html
Essentially, Guy Fawkes was a patsy for manufactured terrorism 400
years ago in England, a guy fingered for attempting to blow up their
parliament & new evidence indicates that it was a false flag
operation. In the movie, while the gov't and the mass media try to
portray the Guy Fawkes mask-wearing revolutionary as a terrorist, the
people know better, realize that the gov't & media are lying and he
incites them to charge parliament, a building which he tells the
people he'll blow up because it - parliament, etc., doesn't represent
the people . . . very inspiring. In the movie, which takes place, I
don't know, maybe in 2075, the U.S. doesn't exist anymore as a nation
- it's referred to as the "former United States" and Britain is an
open police state. Who knows what to make of all this 9/11 truth,
and revolutionary incitement, in television and the theatres
respectively, but we should try to use it for our ends, not for
whatever negative ends others in power may have in mind. Haven't read
anything yet about this movie, but here's a link to some reviews:
http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/?p=1396
We shouldn't ignore this one.

Angie

911 Truth Movement Musings (Watching the Watchers)
http://www.angieon911.com

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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:59:37 -0000
From: "angiesept11" <angiesept11@yahoo.com>
Subject: additional Guy Fawkes (V for Vendetta) links

I just remembered that John Leonard did a peace campaign
around Guy Fawkes Day last year.

He summarized the holiday nicely:
At least as far back as Guy Fawkes Day, people have been asked to make
and celebrate wars based on lies. Guy Fawkes was the original "fall
guy," lured into a plot to bomb Parliament to fabricate the pretext
that would incite the English to make war on Spain - uncannily the
very same trick as the Reichstag Fire. 400 years of celebrations
later, and very few people have any clue that the Gunpowder Plot was a
fake staged by the government. See:

http://www.waronfreedom.org/peaceweek/guyfaux.html

http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/10/1779247.php

Angie

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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:59:35 -0800
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
Subject: RE: Re: is the sheen 9/11 story a real break for us?

As someone else stated, now that the ice has been broken, now that one
celebrity has had to courage to speak out and get it on national media,
those who lead by following need to get up there too.

The only thing I see as wrong with Sheen, is that other than the survey, how
does he know that there are scores of thousands that applaud him for
speaking the truth?

You want someone to lead, you need to flow them power as they can’t
represent you without knowing that they are being pushed forward rather than
on thin ice all alone.

-----Original Message-----
From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of botalerts
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:51 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: is the sheen 9/11 story a real break for us?

If we use the Sheen story as a STARTING POINT, we have a chance.

If we rest on our laurels, we'll lose.

Got to re-triple our efforts (re-double ain't enough)!!!!

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Naveed <flanker12k@...> wrote:
>
> I'm on the cautious side of this, are we really kicking that much
inbred satanist ass?
>
> Have we halted the terrorist dreadnaught known as a the shrub
administration?
>
>
> I'm just wanting everyone's input
>
>
> In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave,
and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him,
for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
> - Notebook, 1904
>
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:32:00 -0000
From: "catsears_2000" <catsears_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 911 Truth & "V for Vendetta" Campaigns

The movie V is quite bold. I'm surprised it could be made at all. In
the theater where I saw it this afternoon, one of the Coming
Attractions previews was for the new 9-11 movie "UA 93". This totally
pushes the Official Boxcutter Line. The promo itself was larded with
multiple interivews with actual "family members" of those who
(supposedly) died on UA 93. These were intercut with extended shots of
the director talking softly, movingly, of how the real point of making
this movie was just as some kind of therapy for the familes and
tribute to the fallen heroes. Obviously larded up in this way to avoid
charges of exploiting the sacred grief of this holy tragedy for filthy
lucre. The action shots were as grotestquely Hollywoodesque as you'd
want - whispering in the aisles, making the last poingnant cellphone
calls, then rushing as a mob toward the cowering Arab villain <sharp
cut to: What would YOU have done?> A great puff piece.

As for V, it was shockingly open as a 9-11 exposure. Not one word
about actual 9-11. but nobody from this group who watches V will have
the slightest doubt: the Wachowski brothers KNOW. I guess despite
their artistic boldness, they just don't quite have the guts of a
Charlie Sheen, so they told the story of 9-11 symbolically. There are
some great scenes in this movie for the 9-11 skeptic cognoscenti.

Basically a bio-terror virus that was though to have been released by
a ragtag Jihadist group turns out to have been pure manufactured
terror dished out by the state for purpose of consolidation, control,
and proft. Just 9-11 redux.

You gotta watch it.

-Scott Meredith

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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:53:19 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 911 Truth & "V for Vendetta" Campaigns

trade copies for loosechange911

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "catsears_2000"
<catsears_2000@...> wrote:
>
> The movie V is quite bold. I'm surprised it could be made at all.
In
> the theater where I saw it this afternoon, one of the Coming
> Attractions previews was for the new 9-11 movie "UA 93". This
totally
> pushes the Official Boxcutter Line. The promo itself was larded
with
> multiple interivews with actual "family members" of those who
> (supposedly) died on UA 93. These were intercut with extended
shots of
> the director talking softly, movingly, of how the real point of
making
> this movie was just as some kind of therapy for the familes and
> tribute to the fallen heroes. Obviously larded up in this way to
avoid
> charges of exploiting the sacred grief of this holy tragedy for
filthy
> lucre. The action shots were as grotestquely Hollywoodesque as
you'd
> want - whispering in the aisles, making the last poingnant
cellphone
> calls, then rushing as a mob toward the cowering Arab villain
<sharp
> cut to: What would YOU have done?> A great puff piece.
>
> As for V, it was shockingly open as a 9-11 exposure. Not one word
> about actual 9-11. but nobody from this group who watches V will
have
> the slightest doubt: the Wachowski brothers KNOW. I guess despite
> their artistic boldness, they just don't quite have the guts of a
> Charlie Sheen, so they told the story of 9-11 symbolically. There
are
> some great scenes in this movie for the 9-11 skeptic cognoscenti.
>
> Basically a bio-terror virus that was though to have been released
by
> a ragtag Jihadist group turns out to have been pure manufactured
> terror dished out by the state for purpose of consolidation,
control,
> and proft. Just 9-11 redux.
>
> You gotta watch it.
>
> -Scott Meredith
>

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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:28:29 -0800
From: John Leonard <jpleonard@verizon.net>
Subject: Transcript, CNN Showbiz Tonight Friday - Sheen, Jong, Jacobson

SHOWBIZ TONIGHT

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0603/24/sbt.01.html

Sheen Responds to Criticism; Erica Jong Dishes on
New Book, Martha Rumors; Seth Green Involved in
Multiple Projects; Marc Jacobson, "New York" Magazine

Aired March 24, 2006 - 19:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE
IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

A.J. HAMMER, CO-HOST: Does Martha Stewart think
sex writer Erica Jong ruined her marriage? I'm A.J. Hammer in New York City.
BROOKE ANDERSON, CO-HOST: And why you may not see
Jodie Foster in a movie for a long time. I'm
Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. TV's only live
entertainment news show starts right now.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

HAMMER (voice-over): On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, they're
the controversial comments that have got everyone talking coast to coast.

CHARLIE SHEEN, ACTOR: Taking over four commercial
airliners and hitting 75 percent of their
targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory.

HAMMER: Actor Charlie Sheen's startling
allegations of a 9/11 government cover-up.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT brought you the story first, and
tonight, Charlie Sheen is speaking out again.

SHEEN: I have to tip my hat to CNN to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

HAMMER: Plus, what do you think? Is he onto
something? Are his claims outrageous? The
overwhelming response flooding our inbox from you.

Plus, a film 25 years in the making. Tonight,
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has your first report from the
set of "Chapter 27." It's the new movie about
Mark David Chapman, the man who shot and killed
John Lennon. And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT goes one-on-one
with Jared Leto, the guy who's playing the former Beatle's killer.

GREG KINNEAR, ACTOR: I'm Greg Kinnear, and if it
happened today, it's on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HAMMER: Welcome to Friday night. I'm A.J. Hammer, live in New York City.

ANDERSON: And I'm Brooke Anderson, live in
Hollywood. And look who's talking again. Charlie Sheen, A.J.

HAMMER: That's right, Brooke. The star of one of
TV's biggest hits, "Two and a Half Men", back on
the radio today, and he was talking 9/11.

Now, ever since we first reported Sheen's
controversial comments he made on the Alex Jones
radio show about a possible government cover-up
of what actually happened on September 11, the
story has exploded. We have been overwhelmed by
the thousands of passionate e-mails that we've
been getting. We're going to read some of them, a
lot of them throughout the next hour.

Well, today Sheen called in once again to the
Jones show. He had more to say. In just a moment
I'll be speaking with Alex live. But first, let's
listen to what Sheen had to say today about 9/11,
about his critics and about SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SHEEN: I had a sense that this thing was going to
get hot. I didn't realize that, as you say, it was going to go supernova.

HAMMER (voice-over): Charlie Sheen's comments on
a possible 9/11 conspiracy have definitely gone
supernova. And this star's earning both criticism and praise.

Calling into Alex Jones radio show today, Sheen
was sure to heap his own praise SHOWBIZ TONIGHT
for being first major news outlet to bring Sheen's 9/11 comments to light.

SHEEN: I have to tip my hat to CNN, to SHOWBIZ
TONIGHT, to A.J. Hammer for having the courage,
for having the guts, for having the wherewithal
to give someone like myself, someone like you the
actual time and the focus to examine these
issues. And this is the most attention in
mainstream coverage that this topic has ever received.

ANDERSON: The response we got today to the
incredible story SHOWBIZ TONIGHT broke last night.

HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has been on top of this
fire storm since it began Monday when Sheen
called Alex Jones' radio program to speculate
that maybe we weren't hearing the real story behind 9/11.

SHEEN: It seems to me like, you know, 19 amateurs
with box cutters taking over four commercial
airliners and hitting 75 percent of their
targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory.

HAMMER: But speaking on the radio today, an angry
Sheen went after those who, responding to his
9/11 statements, are now attacking his wild and controversial past.

SHEEN: And a majority of them, in fact 90 percent
of them, were attacking me personally, were
attacking my credibility. I am an American
citizen that loves my country. And as a citizen
with that -- with my passion for this great
country, I demand that I be challenged on the
facts, not on, you know, immature behavior from
20 years ago. That if they continue to attack me
personally, it only gives credence to our side of the argument.

HAMMER: Sheen is making crystal clear that this
is something he's going to continue to speak out about.

SHEEN: People want the truth. They want the
truth. And what's been offered to us resembles nothing of the sort.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HAMMER: Joining me live tonight, the guy who
Charlie Sheen has been speaking with on the
radio. I'm talking about Alex Jones, who's joining me live from Austin, Texas.

Alex, welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

ALEX JONES, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Thank you for having me.

HAMMER: Appreciate you being here.

So let's talk about the fact that people are
going after Charlie. We've gotten a lot of
e-mails where people are attempting to attack his
credibility. That's the natural thing that's
going to happen. They're talking about things
that happened a long time ago. What about this?
Is his past at all a liability, as you see it, or
are these attacks basically going to backfire?

JONES: Let me just say this. CNN had a poll a
year ago; 90 percent on CNN on the Anderson
Cooper show believed the government's covering up
9/11 and may be involved. Your new poll five
minutes ago before show time, 81 percent of over
20,000 respondents, 81 percent agree with Charlie Sheen, as I told you.

And they've had many other polls with other news
services and we get the same type of numbers. On
my own talk show and other talk shows I've done,
we get the same type of response. You have a
minority that won't face the facts.

Listen, Charlie Sheen is the first person to go
public. He's just the first Hollywood person that
has the courage to do what he's been doing. We
have former Reagan administration officials. We
have former Bush Senior officials. We have the
current chief economist from George Bush's
current administration who quit just a couple
years ago and has gone public. And he says the
government carried out the attacks. Defense ministers, members of British...

HAMMER: Alex, as a Hollywood guy, you know, with
a sordid past that he owns up to, and it's well
behind him, it's going to be an easy attack point. So what I'm asking you is...

JONES: What he says is don't believe me, check
out the facts. Go look at the evidence. Don't
believe the attack dogs. Just -- it isn't about
Charlie Sheen or Alex Jones or A.J. Hammer.

HAMMER: Right.

JONES: It's about NORAD standing down. It's about
bombs in the buildings. It's about Pentagon
documents saying they wanted to carry out these
attacks and blame it on foreign enemies.

This is all public. That's why all these
physicists and politicians and people and
congresswomen, Cynthia McKinney, went public
three years ago, saying there was a cover-up,
very suspicious, called for a real investigation.
There are hundreds of prominent people. They just never get attention.

HAMMER: It's getting a lot of attention now. And
Charlie Sheen came on your show the other day.
And he was back on today. We know what's going on
here at CNN and at SHOWBIZ TONIGHT because of the
thousands of e- mails that we've been getting.

So let me ask you this. What do you think now
that there is this sort of forward momentum? What
do you think is going to happen now that hasn't
happened before as a result of this new level of attention?

JONES: Well, I mean, Americans love celebrity,
and the average American is obsessed with it more
than anybody in the world, except maybe the Japanese.

And he selflessly sacrifice -- is sacrificing
himself to be attacked just to get people talking
and looking at it, because he told me he loves
his children, just like I do. Listen, I get death
threats over this stuff, but ideas are bullet bulletproof.

And the new world order better stop carrying out
terror attacks. We've caught them over 200 times
in the last 100 years, western governments doing
this. Hitler does it; the British do it; the
Russians did it. Governments do this. They -- and
I'm not saying the whole government. Very small
criminal black op -- black world is what they're
called -- operators, are carrying this out. That's the facts.

Please, go investigate it, ladies and gentlemen.
You will discover the truth. Look at America.
It's turning into a police state, putting cameras in school bathrooms.

HAMMER: Let's -- let's bring it back to what's
happening this weekend, what you and I have been
talking about. And yesterday on this program, you
told me Charlie Sheen not alone among Hollywood
celebrities. You told me that you -- you wouldn't
name names. You're in touch with quite a few
celebrities who feel the same way that Charlie
feels about what may have actually happened on 9/11.

So my question is, do you think since we've had
this uproar this week and Charlie is taking this
risk and speaking out, we're going to be hearing
from more celebrities who will go public?

JONES: Well, I mean, the majority of the American
people support Mr. Sheen despite the attack dogs.
He's winning the war of polls. And literally
almost everyone I talk to in Hollywood, very
prominent people. I have a lot of friends in
Hollywood. And they've all sought me out. I'm not some Hollywood person.

HAMMER: Is anyone -- is anyone indicating to you
that they may actually come forward? And I'll ask
you yesterday and I'm going to ask you again, can
you tell us a couple of the names of those people?

JONES: No, because I have -- they have confidence
in me, and I'm not even pushing them to go public.

HAMMER: OK. Do you think they will go public?

JONES: Yes, I think you're going to see -- yes, I
think you're going to see more people. And some
of them may be people I don't even know. Listen,
everybody in Hollywood I talk to, pick a name,
any name. I've talked to hundreds of them. OK?
They seek me out; they're aware of it. They talk
about it. They're constantly...

HAMMER: So you clearly have a lot of supporters,
of course, and you're very familiar with this end
of it. We've gotten the thousands of e- mails
this weekend. Not all of them, Alex, are glowing, obviously.

JONES: But your poll -- your poll is 81 percent.

HAMMER: I'm with you on that. I'm with you on
that. I don't know at this very moment we're
going to get into that in just a second. But of
course, when this happens we do get e-mails,
saying, oh, you know, we think that people like
Charlie Sheen and Alex Jones are whack jobs.

Are you at all concerned that the louder you
raise your voices the wackier you might seem to those people?

JONES: You know what? You know what? No, I'm not
worried. Because we have put the facts out there.
And I challenge them instead of using little buzz
words and junior high mentality propaganda to actually go look at my claims.

Is a current Bush administration official, has he
quit and said the government ran the attacks?
Yes. Dr. Morgan Reynolds say that, chief economist Department of Labor.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the father of
Reaganomics, the father of it who was at the
highest levels of the treasury in the Bush
administration, has he gone public saying he questions 9/11?

Sir, the American people are going to learn the
truth. Nothing can stop the truth from coming out
on 9/11. And we're in danger of the new world
order carrying out more terror attacks to keep this world empire.

HAMMER: Alex, I'm out of time once again. But
what I appreciate is that you're encouraging
people, above all else, to seek out the facts.
And that's what I think you're doing an excellent job at.

JONES: You need to go InfoWars.com and
PrisonPlanet.com. I'm risking my life. We're
doing this for the American people and our
children and our future. And thank you for having
the courage to let me come on. God bless you.

HAMMER: Alex Jones, live from Austin, Texas. Thank you.

And what should we make of all this conspiracy
theory stuff? Well, that's what we're wondering.
Stay with us, because coming up at 32 past the
hour, we've got the reporter who wrote a
fascinating story this week in "New York
Magazine" all about these conspiracy theories
that are out there. You definitely want to be
here to hear what he has to say about what Charlie Sheen has been saying.

ANDERSON: And over the past few days we have been
getting a tremendous response to Charlie Sheen's
startling comments. Our e-mail inbox has been
flooded. And we want to read a few of your
e-mails tonight in response to our question of
the day. Charlie Sheen speaks out. Do you agree
with his assertion there is a government cover -- cover-up of 9/11?

A.J. from Pennsylvania, no relation to A.J.
Hammer, writes, "God bless Charlie Sheen for
having the courage to stand up and be counted in
stating that the evidence shows 9/11 was an inside job."

Dan from Massachusetts agrees: "The bottom line
is that the government lied to us. They continue
to lie to us, and no one is holding them accountable."

But Nick from Virginia doesn't buy the conspiracy
theories: "The government is made up of
Americans. I don't know anyone who would want a
terrorist attack on American soil."

You can keep voting at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight.
Send us e-mail, ShowbizTonight@CNN.com. We are
going to read more of your e-mails later on in the show.

HAMMER: Well, actually, this has a lot of people
wondering if any of this 9/11 conspiracy stuff is
really legit? Coming up, an in-depth, objective
view from someone who's researched both sides of
the story. He'll join me live.

Plus we also have this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JARED LETO, ACTOR: Some people were upset and
will be upset by the film being made.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ANDERSON: Jared Leto plays Mark David Chapman,
the man who murdered John Lennon. And we have
your very first reports from the set of the new
movie. It's in the interview you will see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, coming up.

HAMMER: Also, does Martha Stewart think one of
the most famous sex writers of our time broke up
her marriage? Find out, when SHOWBIZ TONIGHT goes
one-on-one with author Erica Jong. That's next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HAMMER: Back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I'm A.J. Hammer
in New York. This is TV's only live entertainment news show.

Tonight we have a "SHOWBIZ Sitdown" with Erica
Jong. She is best known for her explosive, ground
breaking 1973 novel "Fear of Flying". Her
graphic, no-holds-barred account of a woman's
sexual fantasies turned her into a feminist icon.
Jong has a new book out. It's called "Seducing
the Demon: Writing for My Life". There it is
right there. Erica Jong joining me live in New York.

Thanks for being here.

ERICA JONG, AUTHOR, "SEDUCING THE DEMON": Great to be here.

HAMMER: A fired up show tonight.

JONG: It really is exciting.

HAMMER: We were speaking a few moments ago about
Charlie Sheen coming forward this week with his
notion that the government may actually have been
behind September 11 and the September 11 attacks
and the conspiracy theories in general surrounding 9/11.

What do you make of an actor of his stature coming out publicly like that?

JONG: I think he's a brave man to even question
this aloud in an environment where anyone has
been saying that anyone questions the government is a traitor.

So Charlie Sheen has done his homework, and he's
asking questions. He's speaking truth to power, which is a brave thing to do.

Look, the young people in my family, my nephews,
for example, have been saying for the past three,
four years that we are not learning everything
about 9/11 that we're meant to learn. And
specifically, they've been saying that if you
read all the different web sites, if you're
really careful, what you discover is that a lot of facts don't add up.

HAMMER: And even if a modicum of what is being
put out there, all these conspiracy theories,
even if a piece of that is true, we have a responsibility, don't you think...

JONG: To investigate it.

HAMMER: ... to be asking the questions and to be doing the investigation?

JONG: I think it's very patriotic to investigate
it. Throughout all of history the basic premise
of tyrants has been -- dictators, shall we say.
And I think it's fair to say that George W. Bush
is a dictator. Has been if you tell the people
they have an external enemy, they'll follow you
anywhere. That was what Goebbels told Hitler to
do. Back in ancient history, that's what Roman emperors did.

HAMMER: That's a pretty strong statement for you
to say, though. Are you at all afraid of a
backlash? I mean, seriously, a lot of people are
afraid to come out on television. You just called Mr. Bush a dictator.

JONG: I think that he is a dictator. Most of the
people do not believe that this country should be
a theocracy. Most of the people in this country
do not want to be in Iraq. Most of the people in
this country are pro choice. And yet, he blithely
goes on ignoring the will of the people. I call that a dictator.

But as far as 9/11 is concerned, it's a great
gambit to tell the people, you have an external
enemy. The external enemy is terrorism. We have a
war that will go on for centuries. It will go on
till the end of time. Well, that's a great way to scare people.

HAMMER: Sure.

JONG: And to make them believe whatever you say.
And Bush is not the first to do it.

HAMMER: No.

JONG: Throughout history, people have been doing
that in order to fool all of the people all of
the time. So I think that Charlie Sheen is really
patriotic and brave to ask these questions. I
don't know what the answer to these questions is.

I read the article in "New York" magazine. And I
think just asking questions is brave and patriotic.

HAMMER: And as I mentioned, we'll be speaking
with that author from "New York Magazine" coming up later in the show.

JONG: Well, I think it's great that you're
investigating. I don't know what the answer is. I
don't know if we'll ever know. I don't know the
answer to the Kennedy assassination. But I think
that it's a job of writers and of talented people to investigate this stuff.

>SNIP<

And now we have more on Charlie Sheen and his
9/11 conspiracy theories. We've been all over
this story, Sheen's suggestion that the
government may be covering up what really happened on September 11th.

Sheen was on the Alex Jones Radio Show again
today talking about it. And just this week, "New
York" magazine is out with a story on all of the
9/11 conspiracy theories that are floating out
there. It's called "The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll."

Contributing editor Marc Jacobson wrote the
piece. Marc's joining us live on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Marc, thanks for stopping in.

MARC JACOBSON, "NEW YORK" MAGAZINE: No problem.

HAMMER: It's quite an explosion that has happened
here this week as a result of Charlie Sheen's
comments on this radio show on Monday. You
started working on this story a few months back.
People weren't really talking about this.

JACOBSON: Well, no, the people that are
interested in it were talking about it, but
everybody else thought I was out of my mind.

HAMMER: So do you think, now that you have a big
Hollywood star who is taking an undeniable risk
by coming forward, do you think this is going to
give it legs and suddenly people are really going
to start paying it more attention?

JACOBSON: Well, I think it would be better if it
was Martin Sheen rather than Charlie Sheen, because he's the president, right?

HAMMER: Sometimes we wish.

JACOBSON: Well, you know, but, I mean, it's just
one of those kind of things where do you this
work and nobody really cares, but then Charlie
Sheen is interested, so then everybody is interested, and that's fine.

You know, obviously, this material needs to be
looked at again, because there's been a lot of
problems with the 9/11 Commission report. People
feel it's not adequate. Most of the people who
had lost people during that time feel it's not adequate.

And it's just I think we're living in a truth
vacuum, in a sense, that any time there's a truth
vacuum, these ideas -- because people are smart.
They put two and two together. Sometimes they get
five; sometimes they get 12, but sometimes they
get 11, like 9/11, but sometimes they get four.

And the thing is that, if you have a situation
where the so-called facts are covered up and
aggressively covered up, then you're going to get these conspiracy theories.

HAMMER: And it has happened throughout history.
And credibility is an important fact here.
Charlie Sheen really did apparently do his
homework. He does know a lot about it. But, of
course, people are now going after him because of
his sordid past. I want you to listen to what he
had to say about that on the radio today.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHARLIE SHEEN, ACTOR: I am an American citizen
that loves my country. And as a citizen with my
passion for this great country, I demand that I
be challenged on the facts, not on, you know,
immature behavior from 20 years ago. That if they
continue to attack me personally, it only gives
credence to our side of the argument.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HAMMER: So what do you think about that? Do you
think that, you know, his credibility really is
at stake here, or is that going to backfire on
people who are -- it's kind of like apples and oranges to me.

JACOBSON: It doesn't have anything to do with
each other. You know, it's like -- so he was an
ardent customer of Heidi Fleiss. I mean, I can't
see how that affects his ability to analyze this material.

HAMMER: No, and people who are smart enough, I
think, to think about, you know, "OK, if he's
coming forward with legitimate points, then why
should we worry about what his past was"?

JACOBSON: I think it's just stupid.

HAMMER: You paid attention to some of what
Charlie has had to say this week about what he
thinks happened on September 11th. You did the
research for your article. Do you think he has
some legitimate points? And what are they?

JACOBSON: Well, I think he's doing a reasonable
rendition of what other people that believe in
this stuff say. And when he says he has his facts
straight, I mean, I think the facts are in question.

I mean, I think, just because you know what it
says on all of these different Web sites doesn't
mean that that's necessarily the fact. That's the
reason why the United States government, with
their endless amounts of resources, let us down
by not doing the proper work on the 9/11 Commission. That's a real problem.

HAMMER: Well, one thing that is interesting --
you know, not just your article also bringing
some of these theories to light, but the Internet
now has changed everything. It's all over the
Internet. It's all over the blogs. It seems like
this is now an unstoppable movement that's
getting some new juice this week from Charlie
Sheen. Do you think this is at all a good thing?

JACOBSON: Well, I think that people might want to
-- well, people might want to consider the
Kennedy assassination thing, if they had the
Internet at the time. You can imagine how that would have exploded.

But the thing is, like, if you remember the
Oliver Stone movie, which was the "JFK" movie, it
didn't get made until more than 20 years after
the Kennedy assassination. Obviously, things are
moving quite faster now. And, yes, the Internet
spreads these things. The down side of it is, it spreads a lot of rumors.

HAMMER: That's true. And it can certainly
perpetuate some things that are not true. And,
Marc, I appreciate -- it's really a good read in
the magazine. I appreciate you dropping by to talk about it.

OK. Marc Jacobson, joining us from "New York" magazine.

And we've been asking you to vote on our SHOWBIZ
TONIGHT "Question of the Day, asking: Charlie
Sheen speaks out: Do you agree there is a government cover-up of 9/11?

Well, here are some of the e-mails that we've
received. We heard from Fernando from Florida. He
writes, "Sheen is correct to pursue and expose
the matter to all because the rabbit hole is deeper than we all think."

We also heard from Barbara in Missouri. She
writes, "I don't believe the government was
involved in the 9/11 terror attacks, and I think
that anyone that does is stupid."

We heard from Menelik in Texas who writes, "Of
course, the government covered up 9/11, just as
the past history of what they have concealed."

Keep voting at CNN.com/showbiztonight. If you
have some thoughts you want to share with us,
join in the thousands. Showbiztonight@CNN.com is
our e-mail address. We'll read some more a bit later in the show.

>SNIP<

Fair Use - Thank you AJ Hammer and CNN!

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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:13:11 -0800
From: "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@cruzio.com>
Subject: RE: is the sheen 9/11 story a real break for us?

Shit yeah, who wants to learn something when they can be entertained!

Grab the fast food, some aspartame laced poisoned diet drinks and some
greasy food for the immediate sugar rush and sit back and be that empty
vessel to fill with what ever passes for entertainment, thinking is too much
work after all that crap! (and you wonder why the federal government
subsidizes white processed sugar and poison derivatives of Aspartamine, and
it’s other common names, cause it makes us not willing to think! DUH!)

Bush ain’t there case he is terrible brainy, he’s there cause he can kill
and smile at the same time and makes many stupid folks feel like they got a
smart one they can understand 9koolaid anyone?)

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Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] is the sheen 9/11 story a real break for us?

It is what we make of it. The masses will be more likely to listen to a
celebrity then they are willing to listen to a physics professor. It is
time to spread the word, this is what we've been fighting for.

When the naysayers start yelling that Charlie Sheen isn't qualified to make
the statements he's been making, we counter with the fact that the experts
HAVE been speaking, just nobody has been listening.

Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:
I'm on the cautious side of this, are we really kicking that much inbred
satanist ass?

Have we halted the terrorist dreadnaught known as a the shrub
administration?

I'm just wanting ev! eryone's input

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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:31:24 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Transcript, CNN Showbiz Tonight Friday - Sheen, Jong, Jacobson

chimpy is just a delivery boy sent by a bankster to collect a bill...

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, John Leonard <jpleonard@...>
wrote:
>
> SHOWBIZ TONIGHT
>
> http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0603/24/sbt.01.html
>
> Sheen Responds to Criticism; Erica Jong Dishes on
> New Book, Martha Rumors; Seth Green Involved in
> Multiple Projects; Marc Jacobson, "New York" Magazine
>
> Aired March 24, 2006 - 19:00 ET
>
> THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE
> IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
>
>
> A.J. HAMMER, CO-HOST: Does Martha Stewart think
> sex writer Erica Jong ruined her marriage? I'm A.J. Hammer in New
York City.
> BROOKE ANDERSON, CO-HOST: And why you may not see
> Jodie Foster in a movie for a long time. I'm
> Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. TV's only live
> entertainment news show starts right now.
>
> (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
>
> HAMMER (voice-over): On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, they're
> the controversial comments that have got everyone talking coast to
coast.
>
> CHARLIE SHEEN, ACTOR: Taking over four commercial
> airliners and hitting 75 percent of their
> targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory.
>
> HAMMER: Actor Charlie Sheen's startling
> allegations of a 9/11 government cover-up.
> SHOWBIZ TONIGHT brought you the story first, and
> tonight, Charlie Sheen is speaking out again.
>
> SHEEN: I have to tip my hat to CNN to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
>
> HAMMER: Plus, what do you think? Is he onto
> something? Are his claims outrageous? The
> overwhelming response flooding our inbox from you.
>
> Plus, a film 25 years in the making. Tonight,
> SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has your first report from the
> set of "Chapter 27." It's the new movie about
> Mark David Chapman, the man who shot and killed
> John Lennon. And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT goes one-on-one
> with Jared Leto, the guy who's playing the former Beatle's killer.
>
> GREG KINNEAR, ACTOR: I'm Greg Kinnear, and if it
> happened today, it's on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
>
> (END VIDEOTAPE)
>
> HAMMER: Welcome to Friday night. I'm A.J. Hammer, live in New York
City.
>
> ANDERSON: And I'm Brooke Anderson, live in
> Hollywood. And look who's talking again. Charlie Sheen, A.J.
>
> HAMMER: That's right, Brooke. The star of one of
> TV's biggest hits, "Two and a Half Men", back on
> the radio today, and he was talking 9/11.
>
> Now, ever since we first reported Sheen's
> controversial comments he made on the Alex Jones
> radio show about a possible government cover-up
> of what actually happened on September 11, the
> story has exploded. We have been overwhelmed by
> the thousands of passionate e-mails that we've
> been getting. We're going to read some of them, a
> lot of them throughout the next hour.
>
> Well, today Sheen called in once again to the
> Jones show. He had more to say. In just a moment
> I'll be speaking with Alex live. But first, let's
> listen to what Sheen had to say today about 9/11,
> about his critics and about SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
>
> (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
>
> SHEEN: I had a sense that this thing was going to
> get hot. I didn't realize that, as you say, it was going to go
supernova.
>
> HAMMER (voice-over): Charlie Sheen's comments on
> a possible 9/11 conspiracy have definitely gone
> supernova. And this star's earning both criticism and praise.
>
> Calling into Alex Jones radio show today, Sheen
> was sure to heap his own praise SHOWBIZ TONIGHT
> for being first major news outlet to bring Sheen's 9/11 comments
to light.
>
> SHEEN: I have to tip my hat to CNN, to SHOWBIZ
> TONIGHT, to A.J. Hammer for having the courage,
> for having the guts, for having the wherewithal
> to give someone like myself, someone like you the
> actual time and the focus to examine these
> issues. And this is the most attention in
> mainstream coverage that this topic has ever received.
>
> ANDERSON: The response we got today to the
> incredible story SHOWBIZ TONIGHT broke last night.
>
> HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has been on top of this
> fire storm since it began Monday when Sheen
> called Alex Jones' radio program to speculate
> that maybe we weren't hearing the real story behind 9/11.
>
> SHEEN: It seems to me like, you know, 19 amateurs
> with box cutters taking over four commercial
> airliners and hitting 75 percent of their
> targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory.
>
> HAMMER: But speaking on the radio today, an angry
> Sheen went after those who, responding to his
> 9/11 statements, are now attacking his wild and controversial past.
>
> SHEEN: And a majority of them, in fact 90 percent
> of them, were attacking me personally, were
> attacking my credibility. I am an American
> citizen that loves my country. And as a citizen
> with that -- with my passion for this great
> country, I demand that I be challenged on the
> facts, not on, you know, immature behavior from
> 20 years ago. That if they continue to attack me
> personally, it only gives credence to our side of the argument.
>
> HAMMER: Sheen is making crystal clear that this
> is something he's going to continue to speak out about.
>
> SHEEN: People want the truth. They want the
> truth. And what's been offered to us resembles nothing of the sort.
>
> (END VIDEOTAPE)
>
> HAMMER: Joining me live tonight, the guy who
> Charlie Sheen has been speaking with on the
> radio. I'm talking about Alex Jones, who's joining me live from
Austin, Texas.
>
> Alex, welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
>
> ALEX JONES, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Thank you for having me.
>
> HAMMER: Appreciate you being here.
>
> So let's talk about the fact that people are
> going after Charlie. We've gotten a lot of
> e-mails where people are attempting to attack his
> credibility. That's the natural thing that's
> going to happen. They're talking about things
> that happened a long time ago. What about this?
> Is his past at all a liability, as you see it, or
> are these attacks basically going to backfire?
>
> JONES: Let me just say this. CNN had a poll a
> year ago; 90 percent on CNN on the Anderson
> Cooper show believed the government's covering up
> 9/11 and may be involved. Your new poll five
> minutes ago before show time, 81 percent of over
> 20,000 respondents, 81 percent agree with Charlie Sheen, as I told
you.
>
> And they've had many other polls with other news
> services and we get the same type of numbers. On
> my own talk show and other talk shows I've done,
> we get the same type of response. You have a
> minority that won't face the facts.
>
> Listen, Charlie Sheen is the first person to go
> public. He's just the first Hollywood person that
> has the courage to do what he's been doing. We
> have former Reagan administration officials. We
> have former Bush Senior officials. We have the
> current chief economist from George Bush's
> current administration who quit just a couple
> years ago and has gone public. And he says the
> government carried out the attacks. Defense ministers, members of
British...
>
> HAMMER: Alex, as a Hollywood guy, you know, with
> a sordid past that he owns up to, and it's well
> behind him, it's going to be an easy attack point. So what I'm
asking you is...
>
> JONES: What he says is don't believe me, check
> out the facts. Go look at the evidence. Don't
> believe the attack dogs. Just -- it isn't about
> Charlie Sheen or Alex Jones or A.J. Hammer.
>
> HAMMER: Right.
>
> JONES: It's about NORAD standing down. It's about
> bombs in the buildings. It's about Pentagon
> documents saying they wanted to carry out these
> attacks and blame it on foreign enemies.
>
> This is all public. That's why all these
> physicists and politicians and people and
> congresswomen, Cynthia McKinney, went public
> three years ago, saying there was a cover-up,
> very suspicious, called for a real investigation.
> There are hundreds of prominent people. They just never get
attention.
>
> HAMMER: It's getting a lot of attention now. And
> Charlie Sheen came on your show the other day.
> And he was back on today. We know what's going on
> here at CNN and at SHOWBIZ TONIGHT because of the
> thousands of e- mails that we've been getting.
>
> So let me ask you this. What do you think now
> that there is this sort of forward momentum? What
> do you think is going to happen now that hasn't
> happened before as a result of this new level of attention?
>
> JONES: Well, I mean, Americans love celebrity,
> and the average American is obsessed with it more
> than anybody in the world, except maybe the Japanese.
>
> And he selflessly sacrifice -- is sacrificing
> himself to be attacked just to get people talking
> and looking at it, because he told me he loves
> his children, just like I do. Listen, I get death
> threats over this stuff, but ideas are bullet bulletproof.
>
> And the new world order better stop carrying out
> terror attacks. We've caught them over 200 times
> in the last 100 years, western governments doing
> this. Hitler does it; the British do it; the
> Russians did it. Governments do this. They -- and
> I'm not saying the whole government. Very small
> criminal black op -- black world is what they're
> called -- operators, are carrying this out. That's the facts.
>
> Please, go investigate it, ladies and gentlemen.
> You will discover the truth. Look at America.
> It's turning into a police state, putting cameras in school
bathrooms.
>
> HAMMER: Let's -- let's bring it back to what's
> happening this weekend, what you and I have been
> talking about. And yesterday on this program, you
> told me Charlie Sheen not alone among Hollywood
> celebrities. You told me that you -- you wouldn't
> name names. You're in touch with quite a few
> celebrities who feel the same way that Charlie
> feels about what may have actually happened on 9/11.
>
> So my question is, do you think since we've had
> this uproar this week and Charlie is taking this
> risk and speaking out, we're going to be hearing
> from more celebrities who will go public?
>
> JONES: Well, I mean, the majority of the American
> people support Mr. Sheen despite the attack dogs.
> He's winning the war of polls. And literally
> almost everyone I talk to in Hollywood, very
> prominent people. I have a lot of friends in
> Hollywood. And they've all sought me out. I'm not some Hollywood
person.
>
> HAMMER: Is anyone -- is anyone indicating to you
> that they may actually come forward? And I'll ask
> you yesterday and I'm going to ask you again, can
> you tell us a couple of the names of those people?
>
> JONES: No, because I have -- they have confidence
> in me, and I'm not even pushing them to go public.
>
> HAMMER: OK. Do you think they will go public?
>
> JONES: Yes, I think you're going to see -- yes, I
> think you're going to see more people. And some
> of them may be people I don't even know. Listen,
> everybody in Hollywood I talk to, pick a name,
> any name. I've talked to hundreds of them. OK?
> They seek me out; they're aware of it. They talk
> about it. They're constantly...
>
> HAMMER: So you clearly have a lot of supporters,
> of course, and you're very familiar with this end
> of it. We've gotten the thousands of e- mails
> this weekend. Not all of them, Alex, are glowing, obviously.
>
> JONES: But your poll -- your poll is 81 percent.
>
> HAMMER: I'm with you on that. I'm with you on
> that. I don't know at this very moment we're
> going to get into that in just a second. But of
> course, when this happens we do get e-mails,
> saying, oh, you know, we think that people like
> Charlie Sheen and Alex Jones are whack jobs.
>
> Are you at all concerned that the louder you
> raise your voices the wackier you might seem to those people?
>
> JONES: You know what? You know what? No, I'm not
> worried. Because we have put the facts out there.
> And I challenge them instead of using little buzz
> words and junior high mentality propaganda to actually go look at
my claims.
>
> Is a current Bush administration official, has he
> quit and said the government ran the attacks?
> Yes. Dr. Morgan Reynolds say that, chief economist Department of
Labor.
>
> Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the father of
> Reaganomics, the father of it who was at the
> highest levels of the treasury in the Bush
> administration, has he gone public saying he questions 9/11?
>
> Sir, the American people are going to learn the
> truth. Nothing can stop the truth from coming out
> on 9/11. And we're in danger of the new world
> order carrying out more terror attacks to keep this world empire.
>
> HAMMER: Alex, I'm out of time once again. But
> what I appreciate is that you're encouraging
> people, above all else, to seek out the facts.
> And that's what I think you're doing an excellent job at.
>
> JONES: You need to go InfoWars.com and
> PrisonPlanet.com. I'm risking my life. We're
> doing this for the American people and our
> children and our future. And thank you for having
> the courage to let me come on. God bless you.
>
> HAMMER: Alex Jones, live from Austin, Texas. Thank you.
>
> And what should we make of all this conspiracy
> theory stuff? Well, that's what we're wondering.
> Stay with us, because coming up at 32 past the
> hour, we've got the reporter who wrote a
> fascinating story this week in "New York
> Magazine" all about these conspiracy theories
> that are out there. You definitely want to be
> here to hear what he has to say about what Charlie Sheen has been
saying.
>
> ANDERSON: And over the past few days we have been
> getting a tremendous response to Charlie Sheen's
> startling comments. Our e-mail inbox has been
> flooded. And we want to read a few of your
> e-mails tonight in response to our question of
> the day. Charlie Sheen speaks out. Do you agree
> with his assertion there is a government cover -- cover-up of 9/11?
>
> A.J. from Pennsylvania, no relation to A.J.
> Hammer, writes, "God bless Charlie Sheen for
> having the courage to stand up and be counted in
> stating that the evidence shows 9/11 was an inside job."
>
> Dan from Massachusetts agrees: "The bottom line
> is that the government lied to us. They continue
> to lie to us, and no one is holding them accountable."
>
> But Nick from Virginia doesn't buy the conspiracy
> theories: "The government is made up of
> Americans. I don't know anyone who would want a
> terrorist attack on American soil."
>
> You can keep voting at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight.
> Send us e-mail, ShowbizTonight@... We are
> going to read more of your e-mails later on in the show.
>
> HAMMER: Well, actually, this has a lot of people
> wondering if any of this 9/11 conspiracy stuff is
> really legit? Coming up, an in-depth, objective
> view from someone who's researched both sides of
> the story. He'll join me live.
>
> Plus we also have this.
>
> (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
>
> JARED LETO, ACTOR: Some people were upset and
> will be upset by the film being made.
>
> (END VIDEO CLIP)
>
> ANDERSON: Jared Leto plays Mark David Chapman,
> the man who murdered John Lennon. And we have
> your very first reports from the set of the new
> movie. It's in the interview you will see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT,
coming up.
>
> HAMMER: Also, does Martha Stewart think one of
> the most famous sex writers of our time broke up
> her marriage? Find out, when SHOWBIZ TONIGHT goes
> one-on-one with author Erica Jong. That's next.
>
> (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
>
> HAMMER: Back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I'm A.J. Hammer
> in New York. This is TV's only live entertainment news show.
>
> Tonight we have a "SHOWBIZ Sitdown" with Erica
> Jong. She is best known for her explosive, ground
> breaking 1973 novel "Fear of Flying". Her
> graphic, no-holds-barred account of a woman's
> sexual fantasies turned her into a feminist icon.
> Jong has a new book out. It's called "Seducing
> the Demon: Writing for My Life". There it is
> right there. Erica Jong joining me live in New York.
>
> Thanks for being here.
>
> ERICA JONG, AUTHOR, "SEDUCING THE DEMON": Great to be here.
>
> HAMMER: A fired up show tonight.
>
> JONG: It really is exciting.
>
> HAMMER: We were speaking a few moments ago about
> Charlie Sheen coming forward this week with his
> notion that the government may actually have been
> behind September 11 and the September 11 attacks
> and the conspiracy theories in general surrounding 9/11.
>
> What do you make of an actor of his stature coming out publicly
like that?
>
> JONG: I think he's a brave man to even question
> this aloud in an environment where anyone has
> been saying that anyone questions the government is a traitor.
>
> So Charlie Sheen has done his homework, and he's
> asking questions. He's speaking truth to power, which is a brave
thing to do.
>
> Look, the young people in my family, my nephews,
> for example, have been saying for the past three,
> four years that we are not learning everything
> about 9/11 that we're meant to learn. And
> specifically, they've been saying that if you
> read all the different web sites, if you're
> really careful, what you discover is that a lot of facts don't add
up.
>
> HAMMER: And even if a modicum of what is being
> put out there, all these conspiracy theories,
> even if a piece of that is true, we have a responsibility, don't
you think...
>
> JONG: To investigate it.
>
> HAMMER: ... to be asking the questions and to be doing the
investigation?
>
> JONG: I think it's very patriotic to investigate
> it. Throughout all of history the basic premise
> of tyrants has been -- dictators, shall we say.
> And I think it's fair to say that George W. Bush
> is a dictator. Has been if you tell the people
> they have an external enemy, they'll follow you
> anywhere. That was what Goebbels told Hitler to
> do. Back in ancient history, that's what Roman emperors did.
>
> HAMMER: That's a pretty strong statement for you
> to say, though. Are you at all afraid of a
> backlash? I mean, seriously, a lot of people are
> afraid to come out on television. You just called Mr. Bush a
dictator.
>
> JONG: I think that he is a dictator. Most of the
> people do not believe that this country should be
> a theocracy. Most of the people in this country
> do not want to be in Iraq. Most of the people in
> this country are pro choice. And yet, he blithely
> goes on ignoring the will of the people. I call that a dictator.
>
> But as far as 9/11 is concerned, it's a great
> gambit to tell the people, you have an external
> enemy. The external enemy is terrorism. We have a
> war that will go on for centuries. It will go on
> till the end of time. Well, that's a great way to scare people.
>
> HAMMER: Sure.
>
> JONG: And to make them believe whatever you say.
> And Bush is not the first to do it.
>
> HAMMER: No.
>
> JONG: Throughout history, people have been doing
> that in order to fool all of the people all of
> the time. So I think that Charlie Sheen is really
> patriotic and brave to ask these questions. I
> don't know what the answer to these questions is.
>
> I read the article in "New York" magazine. And I
> think just asking questions is brave and patriotic.
>
> HAMMER: And as I mentioned, we'll be speaking
> with that author from "New York Magazine" coming up later in the
show.
>
> JONG: Well, I think it's great that you're
> investigating. I don't know what the answer is. I
> don't know if we'll ever know. I don't know the
> answer to the Kennedy assassination. But I think
> that it's a job of writers and of talented people to investigate
this stuff.
>
> >SNIP<
>
>
> And now we have more on Charlie Sheen and his
> 9/11 conspiracy theories. We've been all over
> this story, Sheen's suggestion that the
> government may be covering up what really happened on September
11th.
>
> Sheen was on the Alex Jones Radio Show again
> today talking about it. And just this week, "New
> York" magazine is out with a story on all of the
> 9/11 conspiracy theories that are floating out
> there. It's called "The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll."
>
> Contributing editor Marc Jacobson wrote the
> piece. Marc's joining us live on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
> Marc, thanks for stopping in.
>
> MARC JACOBSON, "NEW YORK" MAGAZINE: No problem.
>
> HAMMER: It's quite an explosion that has happened
> here this week as a result of Charlie Sheen's
> comments on this radio show on Monday. You
> started working on this story a few months back.
> People weren't really talking about this.
>
> JACOBSON: Well, no, the people that are
> interested in it were talking about it, but
> everybody else thought I was out of my mind.
>
> HAMMER: So do you think, now that you have a big
> Hollywood star who is taking an undeniable risk
> by coming forward, do you think this is going to
> give it legs and suddenly people are really going
> to start paying it more attention?
>
> JACOBSON: Well, I think it would be better if it
> was Martin Sheen rather than Charlie Sheen, because he's the
president, right?
>
> HAMMER: Sometimes we wish.
>
> JACOBSON: Well, you know, but, I mean, it's just
> one of those kind of things where do you this
> work and nobody really cares, but then Charlie
> Sheen is interested, so then everybody is interested, and that's
fine.
>
> You know, obviously, this material needs to be
> looked at again, because there's been a lot of
> problems with the 9/11 Commission report. People
> feel it's not adequate. Most of the people who
> had lost people during that time feel it's not adequate.
>
> And it's just I think we're living in a truth
> vacuum, in a sense, that any time there's a truth
> vacuum, these ideas -- because people are smart.
> They put two and two together. Sometimes they get
> five; sometimes they get 12, but sometimes they
> get 11, like 9/11, but sometimes they get four.
>
> And the thing is that, if you have a situation
> where the so-called facts are covered up and
> aggressively covered up, then you're going to get these conspiracy
theories.
>
> HAMMER: And it has happened throughout history.
> And credibility is an important fact here.
> Charlie Sheen really did apparently do his
> homework. He does know a lot about it. But, of
> course, people are now going after him because of
> his sordid past. I want you to listen to what he
> had to say about that on the radio today.
>
> (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
>
> CHARLIE SHEEN, ACTOR: I am an American citizen
> that loves my country. And as a citizen with my
> passion for this great country, I demand that I
> be challenged on the facts, not on, you know,
> immature behavior from 20 years ago. That if they
> continue to attack me personally, it only gives
> credence to our side of the argument.
>
> (END VIDEO CLIP)
>
> HAMMER: So what do you think about that? Do you
> think that, you know, his credibility really is
> at stake here, or is that going to backfire on
> people who are -- it's kind of like apples and oranges to me.
>
> JACOBSON: It doesn't have anything to do with
> each other. You know, it's like -- so he was an
> ardent customer of Heidi Fleiss. I mean, I can't
> see how that affects his ability to analyze this material.
>
> HAMMER: No, and people who are smart enough, I
> think, to think about, you know, "OK, if he's
> coming forward with legitimate points, then why
> should we worry about what his past was"?
>
> JACOBSON: I think it's just stupid.
>
> HAMMER: You paid attention to some of what
> Charlie has had to say this week about what he
> thinks happened on September 11th. You did the
> research for your article. Do you think he has
> some legitimate points? And what are they?
>
> JACOBSON: Well, I think he's doing a reasonable
> rendition of what other people that believe in
> this stuff say. And when he says he has his facts
> straight, I mean, I think the facts are in question.
>
> I mean, I think, just because you know what it
> says on all of these different Web sites doesn't
> mean that that's necessarily the fact. That's the
> reason why the United States government, with
> their endless amounts of resources, let us down
> by not doing the proper work on the 9/11 Commission. That's a real
problem.
>
> HAMMER: Well, one thing that is interesting --
> you know, not just your article also bringing
> some of these theories to light, but the Internet
> now has changed everything. It's all over the
> Internet. It's all over the blogs. It seems like
> this is now an unstoppable movement that's
> getting some new juice this week from Charlie
> Sheen. Do you think this is at all a good thing?
>
> JACOBSON: Well, I think that people might want to
> -- well, people might want to consider the
> Kennedy assassination thing, if they had the
> Internet at the time. You can imagine how that would have exploded.
>
> But the thing is, like, if you remember the
> Oliver Stone movie, which was the "JFK" movie, it
> didn't get made until more than 20 years after
> the Kennedy assassination. Obviously, things are
> moving quite faster now. And, yes, the Internet
> spreads these things. The down side of it is, it spreads a lot of
rumors.
>
> HAMMER: That's true. And it can certainly
> perpetuate some things that are not true. And,
> Marc, I appreciate -- it's really a good read in
> the magazine. I appreciate you dropping by to talk about it.
>
> OK. Marc Jacobson, joining us from "New York" magazine.
>
> And we've been asking you to vote on our SHOWBIZ
> TONIGHT "Question of the Day, asking: Charlie
> Sheen speaks out: Do you agree there is a government cover-up of
9/11?
>
> Well, here are some of the e-mails that we've
> received. We heard from Fernando from Florida. He
> writes, "Sheen is correct to pursue and expose
> the matter to all because the rabbit hole is deeper than we all
think."
>
> We also heard from Barbara in Missouri. She
> writes, "I don't believe the government was
> involved in the 9/11 terror attacks, and I think
> that anyone that does is stupid."
>
> We heard from Menelik in Texas who writes, "Of
> course, the government covered up 9/11, just as
> the past history of what they have concealed."
>
> Keep voting at CNN.com/showbiztonight. If you
> have some thoughts you want to share with us,
> join in the thousands. Showbiztonight@... is
> our e-mail address. We'll read some more a bit later in the show.
>
> >SNIP<
>
>
> © 2006 Cable News Network LP, LLLP.
>
> Fair Use - Thank you AJ Hammer and CNN!
>

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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:32:03 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Bush’s IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public .....

Bush's IRS Wants to Make Your Tax Returns Public

A new article from the Philadelphia Inquirer has blown open the
startling plans of the IRS to allow tax preparers for the first time
to sell the tax returns of their customers.

The proposal came in a painfully technical tax regulation, which
until now had attracted only a dozen public comments since it was
announced in December. The proposal calls itself "not a significant
regulatory action." But the proposal is indeed significant, both for
tax privacy and more broadly.

Until now, tax preparers could not sell tax returns to outside
parties. Period. If they got taxpayer consent, they could use it for
marketing, but only within their own corporate family.

The new proposal allows the tax preparers –- from your local
accountant to giants such as H&R Block –- to get your signature and
then give or sell the full tax return to data brokers, to your boss,
to anyone. And there are absolutely no restrictions about what
recipients do with the returns. The rule lets recipients post the
full return to the Internet if they want.

Here are three reasons (you can think of others) why this proposal
is wrong:

– First, taxpayer "consent" here is fake. Sometimes my wife and I
have used tax prep services. Once the final papers are ready, they
come to us with little sticky tabs next to each signature line. It's
usually about April 14th and late at night, and we sign where they
tell us. Under the new proposal, they just add one sticky tab, and
taxpayers have now "consented" to having their tax returns sold to
anyone.

– Second, the proposal is all risk and no reward for consumers. The
risk is of identity theft and more – unknown people can get your
full tax return. The reward to consumers is zero.

– Third, this proposal shows once again that the administration
doesn't "get" privacy. Warrantless wiretaps, "total information
awareness," and now sale of your tax returns. There is still no
White House official whose job is to screen proposals and protect
privacy (a role I played in the Clinton Administration). There
should be.

– Peter Swire

Filed under: Taxes, Privacy

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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:34:07 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: is the sheen 9/11 story a real break for us?

get a 6pk and span for next fri...censure hearing in sen j com

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Peden" <scotpeden@...>
wrote:
>
> Shit yeah, who wants to learn something when they can be
entertained!
>
> Grab the fast food, some aspartame laced poisoned diet drinks and
some
> greasy food for the immediate sugar rush and sit back and be that
empty
> vessel to fill with what ever passes for entertainment, thinking
is too much
> work after all that crap! (and you wonder why the federal
government
> subsidizes white processed sugar and poison derivatives of
Aspartamine, and
> it's other common names, cause it makes us not willing to think!
DUH!)
>
> Bush ain't there case he is terrible brainy, he's there cause he
can kill
> and smile at the same time and makes many stupid folks feel like
they got a
> smart one they can understand 9koolaid anyone?)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Chris Bell
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:00 AM
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] is the sheen 9/11 story a real break
for us?
>
> It is what we make of it. The masses will be more likely to
listen to a
> celebrity then they are willing to listen to a physics professor.
It is
> time to spread the word, this is what we've been fighting for.
>
> When the naysayers start yelling that Charlie Sheen isn't
qualified to make
> the statements he's been making, we counter with the fact that the
experts
> HAVE been speaking, just nobody has been listening.
>
> Naveed <flanker12k@...> wrote:
> I'm on the cautious side of this, are we really kicking that much
inbred
> satanist ass?
>
> Have we halted the terrorist dreadnaught known as a the shrub
> administration?
>
>
> I'm just wanting ev! eryone's input
>
>
> In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and
brave, and
> hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him,
for then it
> costs nothing to be a patriot.
> - Notebook, 1904
> _____
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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:48:22 -0000
From: "mojo_j_2000" <mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Bush uncle makes millions from war

http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/bush-uncle-makes-millions-
from-war/2006/03/23/1143083906158.html

Bush uncle makes millions from war

By Walter Roche, Washington
March 24, 2006

Advertisement
AdvertisementAS PRESIDENT George W. Bush embarks on a new effort to
shore up public support for the war in Iraq, his uncle is collecting
$US2.7 million ($A3.7 million) in cash and stock from the recent
sale of a company that profited from the war.

A report filed with the US Securities and Exchange Commission shows
that William Bush collected nearly $US1.9 million in cash plus stock
valued at more than $US800,000 from the sale of Engineered Support
Systems to DRS Technologies of New Jersey.

The $US1.7 billion deal was closed on January 31. Both businesses
have extensive military contracts.

William Bush was a director of Engineered Support Systems Inc.
Recent SEC filings show he was paid cash and DRS stock in exchange
for shares and options he obtained as a director.

Missouri-based ESSI experienced record growth before its purchase by
DRS through expanded US military contracts.

SEC filings show there are two ongoing federal investigations of
ESSI — one involving a stop order issued by the Federal Government
on the ESSI contract to supply field generators.

The field-generator contract was a major source of revenue, but SEC
files show ESSI did not inform stockholders of the stop order until
last June, about seven months after it was issued. During the
interim, several ESSI executives, including William Bush, cashed in
stock and stock options worth millions of dollars, SEC filings show.

LOS ANGELES TIMES

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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:00:49 +0200
From: Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Action Alert: Buycott CNN!!

On Sunday 26 March 2006 03:51, botalerts wrote:
> (the original gives links)
> http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/03/buycott.html
>
> Now that CNN has broken the media boycott on 9-11 information with
> its 3 Showbiz Tonight programs covering Charlie Sheen, Alex Jones
> and other 9-11 leaders, it is time to reward CNN. How?
>
> A buycott. A buycott is simply a reverse boycott: instead of saying
> we won't buy a company's products until they start acting
> responsibly, let's say we will buy their products as long as they
> KEEP acting responsibly. This is like the idea of the old-fashion
> Chinese doctor: he only gets paid if he keeps his patient well.
>
> Specifically, here's the plan:
>
> (1) Send a message to CNN thanking them for their fair coverage of 9-
> 11 on Showbiz Tonight.
>
> (2) In the "My comments" box (lower right), copy and paste this:
>
> As long as CNN continues to cover the question of whether 9-11 was
> an inside job fairly and openly (on its news programs as well as
> entertainment programs) -- I pledge to make EVERY EFFORT to buy the
> products and services advertised on CNN whenever I have the choice.
>
> (3) Give your real name and other information.
>
> If enough of us do this, it will encourage CNN to "do well by doing
> good".
>
> Pass this message on widely ... let's make this a viral campaign
> which causes a tipping point in spreading the truth.

Right, but this doesn't have to look like a propaganda campaign, else it
could backfire.

A better method would be to encourage friends to watch CNN instead of other
news channels. Thus they can justify hiher prices for advertisment.

--
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>

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