Tuesday, February 21, 2006

[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1137

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. U.S. Church Alliance Denounces Iraq War! tvnl news
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
2. Re: Why is 911 Gatekeeper speaking at NYC March for 9/11 Truth Monday!
From: "angiesept11" <angiesept11@yahoo.com>
3. Re: Iran's switch to euros?
From: "hitech2_47460" <hitech2_47460@yahoo.com>
4. The vice president shot somebody
From: Bugs <brawny@twlakes.net>
5. TVNL RADIO - 2/20 - The Illuminati & 9/11
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
6. re: Blueprint from a killing program/Harry
From: janet phelan <jcphelan10@yahoo.com>
7. Re: Re: Why is 911 Gatekeeper speaking at NYC March for 9/11 Truth Monday!
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
8. Re: Iran's switch to euros?
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
9. Pravda prints 9/11 Truth, as does a mainstream US paper +
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
10. Spread the Truth!
From: "Michele Parillo" <dogmaphobicincali@yahoo.com>
11. Re: Re: Iran's switch to euros?
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
12. Fwd: Jets?? I don't have any jets.
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
13. Spread the Truth
From: Tammy Parillo <dogmaphobicincali@yahoo.com>
14. ***Groups Alert***SOS***Please Forward & then Do your part...It's now or never
From: Mofmars3@wmconnect.com
15. Sponsor a "We're No Fools" video showing on April Fools' Daty Saturday, April 1 on the public access channel of your cable TV system, at your public library, or at house parties
From: al rogers <goatsortowers@yahoo.com>
16. Sander Hicks on AIr America's Majority Report Friday Night
From: al rogers <goatsortowers@yahoo.com>
17. Re: Iran's switch to euros?
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
18. D'oh! Here's audio of Sander Hicks on Majority Report:
From: al rogers <goatsortowers@yahoo.com>
19. Great website! Check it OUT!
From: "Caomhain {Kevin} Lee Hammond" <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
20. Sent to all media & major newspapers>>>"War Crimes" and "Media Cover-Up of 9/11"
From: Mofmars3@wmconnect.com
21. Last press release tonight...I have hit all New York newspapers, big & little..
From: Mofmars3@wmconnect.com
22. Ron Paul on Iran, Iraq and the US Dollar
From: Larry Lawson <hitech2_47460@yahoo.com>
23. The real reason behind 911
From: "goldbugger_y2k" <pgalier@neo.rr.com>
24. Bush is Unpopular Across the Entire Country, Particularly in Ohio
From: Bugs <brawny@twlakes.net>
25. Bush is Unpopular Across the Entire Country, Particularly in Ohio
From: Bugs <brawny@twlakes.net>

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:14:30 -0000
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
Subject: U.S. Church Alliance Denounces Iraq War! tvnl news

HEADLINES and NEWS LINKS Courtesy of TvNewsLies.org
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Feb.19-2006
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**U.S. Church Alliance Denounces Iraq War - A coalition of
American churches sharply denounced the U.S.-led war in Iraq on
Saturday, accusing Washington of "raining down terror" and
apologizing to other nations for "the violence, degradation and
poverty our nation has sown."
· Oligarchy - Oligarchy is a political regime where most or all
political power effectively rests with a small segment of
society

WAR : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#war

· Bush to Expand U.S. Nuclear Power, Prevent Weapon Proliferation
· On tape, Hussein talks of WMDs - Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein told
his Cabinet in the mid-1990s that the U.S. would fall victim to
terrorists possessing weapons of mass destruction but that Iraq
would not be involved
· WWIII or Bust: Implications of a US Attack on Iran
· Selling War against Iran - Propaganda campaign portrays Iran as
a pariah state

POLITICS : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news#politics

· Behind the White House's Billion-Dollar Propaganda Push
· Prosecutor Says Libby Seeks to Thwart Criminal Case
· VP Accident Tale Filled With Discrepancies

ECONOMY : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news#economy

· 37 million poor hidden in the land of plenty

9/11 News : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#911

· Maxim Magazine Covers '9/11 Truth Movement'

DOMESTIC : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#domestic

· Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes
· 12 Year-Old Illinois Boy Charged With Possession of Sugar
· Fugitives caught in New Mexico with munitions stash

ENVIRONMENT : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#environment

· Bush's Chat With Novelist Alarms Environmentalists -

INTERNATIONAL : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#international

· Bombers Warn U.S. Against Iran Attacks

MILITARY & VETERANS : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#military

· US military planes criss-cross Europe using bogus call sign

EDITORIAL : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#editorial

· George W. Bush - Helping the Advancement of Human Extinction
· What Happened To My Country? - Now I live in an America I don't
dare leave for fear of being spat upon, shot, bombed or kidnaped.
I am looked upon as a citizen of a rogue nation that has no
concept or respect for any law except bullying and strength.
· The End of Dollar Hegemony - our dollar dominance is coming
to an end.
· Losing our values in the war on terror

JOURNALISM & MEDIA : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#media

· An Upside-Down Media - The gravest indictment of the American
news media is that George W. Bush has gutted the U.S.
Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Geneva Conventions and
the United Nations Charter – yet this extraordinary story does
not lead the nation's newspapers and the evening news every day.

HEALTH & SCIENCE : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#health

· At a Scientific Gathering, U.S. Policies Are Lamented

HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#rights

· UK police arrest stars of award-winning film "The Road to
Guantanamo" under the Prevention of Terrorism Act - Citing
the "Prevention of Terrorism" act, British Police have arrested
and interrogated three of the stars of the award-winning film
"The Road to Guantanamo", together with the three ex-Guantanomo
detainees on whose story the film is based.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:09:49 -0000
From: "angiesept11" <angiesept11@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Why is 911 Gatekeeper speaking at NYC March for 9/11 Truth Monday!

You're misinformed (what they call in my neighborhood "wrong and
strong" - incorrect AND loud about it) and apparently you never even
looked at the book Hicks has out on the subject. The very title of
his book, "The Big Wedding", refers to an "Al Qaeda code for 9/11".
Hicks is LIHOP 100 percent and keeps the hijacker myth alive. I've
actually seen him in action giving a lecture on 9/11 at the famous
Riverside Church in NYC. Not only was it LIHOP all the way, he also
parenthetically appeared to be on drugs and was at times incoherent &
offensively trying to imitate Martin Luther King, Jr. He ruined the
911 event and had people leaving shaking their heads, dismissing the
entire 911 movement in the process due to his performance. I've never
seen video of that lecture & it's obvious why it was never made
available by the folks at ny911truth. Anyway, here's how he was
quoted in the mainstream New York Post not too long ago:

"Arab rage is a factor" in terror. "But the CIA is smart enough to
know this, and to use that rage.

So if you want a 911 truther going around talking about Arab rage to
his audience as well as the mainstream press, then go on with your
badself Alan.

Angie

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, alan random <alanrandom@...> wrote:
>
> Oh god, here we go again...
>
> Hicks is NOT a gatekeeper! He is 100% MIHOP and even has a new
book out on the subject. He does believe, like a lot of MIHOP folks,
that a plane did hit the Pentagon. This does not make him a
gatekeeper. We can all agree to disagree on what exactly happened at
the Pentagon w/o being "gatekeepers", OK Angie?
>
> I think it's FANTASTIC that Hicks will be speaking at this event
and I hope it's a great success.
>
> If you wish to engage in further divisive namecalling, do us all a
favor and do it OFF-LIST.
>
> angiesept11 <angiesept11@...> wrote:
> Why is 911 Gatekeeper Sander Hicks one
> of the people listed as speaking at supposedly
> anti-gatekeeping 911 march? Hicks is a 911 Gatekeeper!!
> This is both hilarious and disgusting at the same time.
>
> Angie
> 911 Truth Movement Musings (Watching the Watchers)
> http://www.Angieon911.com
> ------------------------------
>
> From: greg nixon <nxngrg@...>
> Date: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:46 pm
> Subject: Re: [911InsideJobbers] WING TV announced Greg Nixon as guest
> (02/17) nxngrg
>
>
> >>>>>She is a planehugger huh? I am not. I want the message to be f--k
> the gatekeepers I hope that's what comes across.
>
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "President, USA Exile Govt."
> <prez@> wrote:
> >
> > Forwarded with Compliments of Government of the USA in Exile
(GUSAE):
> > Free Americans Resisting the Fourth Reich on Behalf of All
Species.
> > NOTE: Thanks to flyingsnail.com for this; I hope everyone within
100
> > miles of NYC will attend this critically important, deftly focused
> > demo; by the way, many other groups can be added to the list of
> > "establishment left gatekeepers" below and the one that comes most
> > quickly to mind for me is so-called MoveOn: Move on over,
MoveOn.org,
> > or we'll move on over you. -- kl, pp
> >
> > http://www.flyingsnail.com/
> >
> > Presidents' Day "March for 9/11 Truth,"
> > NYC Ground Zero, 10 a.m.
> Monday,
> > 2/20/06
> >
> > Activists Plan 60s-Style Protest against "War Crimes" and
> > "Media Cover-Up of 9/11" in downtown Manhattan.
> >
> >
> > New York City, NY (PRWEB) February 18, 2006 -- Vermonter Greg
> Nixon is
> > a man on a mission to save America - from itself. He is one of a
new
> > breed of issue-oriented activists who were often not even involved
in
> > politics before 9/11. What mobilizes him is a prospect of
> indescribable
> > horror: he sees plain proof that the WTC was destroyed on 9/11 in an
> > undercover operation within America's own military-intelligence
> > establishment.
> >
> > From all angles, it's a topsy-turvy world view, that can bowl one
> over
> > with vertigo at first. A mirror world with such contrarian
> coordinates
> > as:
> >
> > - the terrorists are Americans, not Arabs;
> >
> > - ex-mayor Giuliani and George Bush are suspects, not heroes of
9/11;
> >
> > - much as the Bush administration capitalized on 9/11 to advance
> its
> > agenda, the 9/11 Truthers seize on it as the Achilles Heel of the
"new
> > militarism," with evidence of a controlled demolition of WTC 1, 2
and
> > 7 as the smoking gun or fatal flaw in the official version;
> >
> > - "left-leaning" media like The Nation, Pacifica's Democracy Now,
> and
> > The New York Times, along with groups like ANSWER and the
Democratic
> > Party, are not seen as a real opposition; because they don't accept
> > "9/11 Truth," they are just playing a part in the plans for World
War
> > IV on the oil fields of the Middle East.
> >
> > Indeed, Greg Nixon would like the President's Day March to take aim
> > especially at the "establishment left gatekeepers."
> >
> > The plan for Monday's march is fairly ad hoc. After assembling at
> WTC
> > Ground Zero, the protesters may march to Attorney General Elliot
> > Spitzer's office with a letter demanding his resignation for failing
> to
> > investigate 9/11. Last year, 9/11 activists in New York filed an
> > extensive complaint with Spitzer, and hopes were high for a time
that
> > he might take up the case. Offices of the above-mentioned
"left-wing
> > gatekeepers" could be next.
> >
> > Speakers expected are Greg Nixon and others, including:
> >
> > Craig Hill, the Vermont Green Party senatorial candidate, who
> > includes photographic evidence of the WTC demolition in his
campaign
> > platform. His website is
> >
> > http://www.hillsenatenow.org.
> >
> > Sander Hicks, author of the 9/11 expose "The Big Wedding" and
> owner of
> > the Vox Pop Democracy Cafe in Brooklyn,
> >
> > http://www.voxpopnet.net.
> >
> > 9/11 activist, historian and radio personality Webster Tarpley will
> > speak at a Greg Nixon event on April 27th at the University of
> > Vermont. Tarpley is devoting his energies to opposing the latest war
> > drive on Iran. He says the plan is to attack Iran already by the end
> of
> > March, which leaves much less time for mobilizing springtime
> > demonstrations such as we saw before the attack on Iraq. (see
> >
> > http://www.waronfreedom.org/activists/stop-amerigeddon.html)
> >
> > He is the author of "9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA".
> >
> > During the run-up to the Iraq war, 9/11 activists tried but failed
to
> > convince the peace movement that exposing 9/11 was the only way to
> stop
> > the juggernaut of war. They felt that rank-and-file pacifists were
> > receptive, but the leadership marched to a different, establishment
> > tune.
> >
> > More details on the Presidents' Day march at
> >
> > http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/01/332307.shtml.
> >
> > See also the feature article on the march at
> >
> > http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/132464/index.php
> >
> > "2/20 March for 9/11 Truth NYC: The Tipping Point? The world is at
> the
> > most serious crossroads in modern history. The fraudulent 'War on
> > Terror' threatens the very future of humanity."
> >
> > For an interview with Greg Nixon, see
> >
> > http://www.phillyimc.org/en/2006/02/19016.shtml.
> >
> > Quote: "Bring your digital camera, too. Because something tells me
> > that history is going to be made in New York City this upcoming
> Monday,
> > in honor of President's Day. That's the day those actually informed
> > about 9/11 will gather together in NYC to honor the birthday of the
> > first GW. You know, the GW who was unable to tell a lie."
> >
> >
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:41:30 -0000
From: "hitech2_47460" <hitech2_47460@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Iran's switch to euros?

As good as Craig Roberts SOUNDS, I have to disagree. WHY the
enourmous COINCIDENCE of the FED ceasing to report the M3 Money
supply at the SAME TIME the Iranian Bourse goes online! And Iraq did
the SAME THING just before we walloped THEM!

\

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Naveed <flanker12k@...> wrote:
>
> that's the thing that's got me confused, then why the mad rush into
Iran?
>
> alan random <alanrandom@...> wrote: Hmm, an alternate view on the
impending Iran dollar/euro crisis:
>
> articles@... wrote: Hey Alan, This is an
interesting note on Iran selling oil for euros. This guy has a good
credentials education-wise.
>
>
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> Paul Craig Roberts
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> A Note On The Iranian Oil Bourse By Paul Craig Roberts
> Readers keep asking if Bush is attacking Iran because it plans to
open an oil bourse that would permit oil to trade in Euros. A number
of readers mistakenly believe that this would wreck the dollar's
value.
> The answer is no.
> The neocons' plans for the Middle East predate any notion of an
Iranian oil bourse.
> Will an Iranian oil bourse hurt the dollar? Not really.
> The dollar's value depends on the world's willingness to hold
dollar denominated assets, not on the currency used to pay oil bills.
If payments were not made in dollars, there could be a slight
negative impact on the dollar from countries reducing their dollar
cash balances and from the psychological shock of pricing oil in
Euros (or some other currency). However, what really counts is what
do the oil producers, for example, do with the currency that they are
paid. If they are paid in dollars, but exchange the dollars for Euros
or Yen and purchase equities or bonds or real estate in Europe and
Japan, it doesn't help that oil is billed in dollars. Or if they are
paid in Euros but exchange the Euros for dollars and purchase US
assets, it doesn't hurt that the oil is billed in Euros.
> The negative impact on the dollar will be far greater from the
additional red ink necessary to finance an attack on Iran than from
an oil bourse. Today, US war making capability is dependent on the
rest of the world to finance it.
> Oil is billed in dollars because the dollar is the world reserve
currency. The dollar is not the reserve currency because oil is
billed in dollars. The US is abusing the dollar's role as reserve
currency. When a trusted alternative appears, the dollar is likely to
lose its reserve currency role. Iran, however, cannot cause that
transition.
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:05:21 -0600
From: Bugs <brawny@twlakes.net>
Subject: The vice president shot somebody

From: Kathleen Bushman

"...when something starts the beasts not just growling but flinging themselves against their cages, I feel bad about that, and it's not a good day for him." - Was that statement a freudian slip by Ms. Matalin. The White House press corps are supposed to remain "caged" and passive?

On 2/19/06, SXG <sgnwmxco@bellsouth.net> wrote:
a new glimpse into some of the behind-the-scenes frenzy

WASHINGTON Mary Matalin, Vice President Dick Cheney's longtime troubleshooter, was sleeping in a week ago Sunday when the phone jangled her awake at 8 a.m. She groggily picked it up to hear, "The vice president shot somebody and he's O.K."

"And I said," Matalin recounted, "Can I get a cup of coffee?"

In the time it took her to make a pot, more calls had come in from the Armstrong Ranch in Texas, all with conflicting information about the condition of Harry Whittington, the 78-year-old lawyer injured in a hunting accident by Cheney. "I heard everything from 'It's a surface wound' to 'He still can see,'" Matalin said in a telephone interview on Friday.

Soon the vice president's aides had drafted a brief statement for the national news media, which was read to her over the phone. "And as soon as I heard it, I said, 'That's not enough,'" Matalin recounted, adding that she thought the statement would raise more questions than answers. "I think a bad statement is worse than no statement."

The statement was scrapped. Then, in a plan suggested by Cheney and endorsed by Matalin, the ranch owner, Katharine Armstrong, got the story out, some 18 hours after the accident, through a reporter at The Corpus Christi Caller-Times in Texas. Cheney took four days to speak out himself - a delay that appalled even Republicans, created accusations of an attempted cover-up from Cheney's fiercest critics and turned Scott McClellan, the president's spokesman, into a battering ram for the White House press corps.

The Cheney story that consumed the White House and Washington last week now seems to have completed its trajectory. But Matalin, a former top aide to Cheney who was summoned back to the West Wing to help manage the crisis, offered a new glimpse into some of the behind-the-scenes frenzy. She also described a vice president who was in no condition in the hours after the shooting to speak out himself.

She first talked to Cheney by phone around 10 a.m. Sunday, some 16 hours after he shot Whittington. "It was not to go through the statement or what do we do, it was to tell me it happened," said Matalin, who was deputy manager of George H.W. Bush's presidential re-election campaign in 1992 and who was known for her bare-knuckled outbursts.

She added: "It was so about Harry - 'I hit him and I can't believe it and he's such a good guy.'

"And I said, O.K., this guy is going to be worthless about getting me what I need to help him here, he's so Harry- centric."

White House officials, who made clear last week that President George W. Bush was not happy with the way the shooting was disclosed, said they had let the vice president, well known for his secrecy, decide when and how the shooting would be made public.

They also said they thought Armstrong would be able to get the information out more quickly than she did. (Armstrong has said she had trouble reaching anyone at the local newspaper on Sunday morning; The Caller- Times posted the report on its Web site at 1:30 p.m.)

Throughout Sunday, Bush was in touch with his top aides about the shooting. "He said, 'Get it out as quickly as possible,'" said Dan Bartlett, the White House counselor, who was himself in touch with Matalin. "But he wasn't weighing in on the tactics."

Bush did not speak to Cheney until Monday morning, when the vice president was back at the White House. The president was struck, one adviser said, with the normally tight-lipped vice president's emotional response to the accident.

"That influenced the president in giving the vice president a little wider berth to deal with this," said the adviser, who asked for anonymity because he was describing a private conservation between Bush and Cheney.

Meanwhile, discussions were under way about how and when the vice president would make a public statement, depending on Whittington's health. But the lawyer was only in stable condition and was not moved out of intensive care until Monday. He returned to intensive care Tuesday after suffering a minor heart attack from birdshot lodged in his heart.

By Wednesday morning, with Whittington improving, Matalin met with Cheney's advisers, including David Addington, his chief of staff; Lea Ann McBride, his press secretary, and Elizabeth Cheney, a top official at the State Department who is one of Cheney's two daughters.

The group decided that rather than going "into the belly of the beast," as Matalin described a vice-presidential news conference in the White House briefing room, Cheney would appear on a favorite outlet, Fox News. Matalin hastily made the arrangements for the interview with Brit Hume later that day, when Cheney took full responsibility for shooting his friend.

She herself was being heard nationwide on the popular Don Imus radio program the next morning, and she promptly got into a heated argument about Cheney with the host.

"He didn't shoot Harry on purpose, but you're handling this horribly and you're just trying to spin me," Imus said, adding that he wanted to know why the vice president had had a beer at the ranch at lunch, as Cheney told Fox.

"What are you, his nanny?" Matalin shot back.

Matalin, 52, is now editor-in-chief of Threshold Editions, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, and is publishing a book by the vice president's other daughter, Mary, this spring.

On Friday, she retreated to the weekend farm she shares with her two daughters and her husband, the Democratic strategist James Carville. It had been, she said, a horrible week. She also took blame for McClellan's pounding in the briefing room.

"I don't buy that we did it wrong," she said. "But I do understand that every day over there is like walking up a mountain with bricks in your backpack, and when something starts the beasts not just growling but flinging themselves against their cages, I feel bad about that, and it's not a good day for him."

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 00:07:54 -0000
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
Subject: TVNL RADIO - 2/20 - The Illuminati & 9/11

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:32:32 -0800 (PST)
From: janet phelan <jcphelan10@yahoo.com>
Subject: re: Blueprint from a killing program/Harry

Yes, the letter attached to the article was from Mike Downs. Since publication of the article, I have been doing more work on the story. I have letters from Ronald Deaton, General Manager of Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, and from Jim McDaniel, COO of LADWP. The letter from McDaniel, dated last September, states that Tyton is the manufacturer of tees.

And I have Ali Sabouni, resident engineer on this current site in L.A., stating"There is no such thing as a remote controlled water valve." Alot of lies going on about this particular project. And an awful lot of ad hominem attacks.

Right, Harry?

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:33:25 -0800 (PST)
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Why is 911 Gatekeeper speaking at NYC March for 9/11 Truth Monday!

You're defining LIHOP much too loosely. Apparently, LIHOP is anyone who doesn't agree entirely with Angie's opinion of what happened.

Yes, Hicks believes there were real hijackers. Guess what, so do I! That doesn't mean it wasn't an inside job. Until compelling evidence proves otherwise, it appears that there likely were actual hijackers involved on 9/11. But the operation was orchestrated from within the US gov't and the hijackers were, wittingly or not, working as agents of an inside black-op. This is consistent with "MADE it happen", not "LET it happen."

Secondly, I emailed Hicks over a year ago and he responded several times to my questions. It was obvious to me from this personal exchange that he DOES believe it was an inside job. However, he is now a politician after all. He's running for governor of NY. And like any savvy campaigner, he knows he can't just run out in the street yelling "Inside job!" because most will assume he's a kook and tune him out. So he approaches the subject in a much more subtle way. Apparently too subtle for folks like yourself to understand.

Your quote from the NY Post proves nothing, as it could be interpretted either way. As for your accusation that he ruined a 911 event, I'll believe it when I see it. Let's just see how he does tomorrow.

Until then, try to be a little more patient and open-minded with those who don't see things 100% your way.

angiesept11 <angiesept11@yahoo.com> wrote:
You're misinformed (what they call in my neighborhood "wrong and
strong" - incorrect AND loud about it) and apparently you never even
looked at the book Hicks has out on the subject. The very title of
his book, "The Big Wedding", refers to an "Al Qaeda code for 9/11".
Hicks is LIHOP 100 percent and keeps the hijacker myth alive. I've
actually seen him in action giving a lecture on 9/11 at the famous
Riverside Church in NYC. Not only was it LIHOP all the way, he also
parenthetically appeared to be on drugs and was at times incoherent &
offensively trying to imitate Martin Luther King, Jr. He ruined the
911 event and had people leaving shaking their heads, dismissing the
entire 911 movement in the process due to his performance. I've never
seen video of that lecture & it's obvious why it was never made
available by the folks at ny911truth. Anyway, here's how he was
quoted in the mainstream New York Post not too long ago:

"Arab rage is a factor" in terror. "But the CIA is smart enough to
know this, and to use that rage.

So if you want a 911 truther going around talking about Arab rage to
his audience as well as the mainstream press, then go on with your
badself Alan.

Angie

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, alan random <alanrandom@...> wrote:
>
> Oh god, here we go again...
>
> Hicks is NOT a gatekeeper! He is 100% MIHOP and even has a new
book out on the subject. He does believe, like a lot of MIHOP folks,
that a plane did hit the Pentagon. This does not make him a
gatekeeper. We can all agree to disagree on what exactly happened at
the Pentagon w/o being "gatekeepers", OK Angie?
>
> I think it's FANTASTIC that Hicks will be speaking at this event
and I hope it's a great success.
>
> If you wish to engage in further divisive namecalling, do us all a
favor and do it OFF-LIST.
>
> angiesept11 <angiesept11@...> wrote:
> Why is 911 Gatekeeper Sander Hicks one
> of the people listed as speaking at supposedly
> anti-gatekeeping 911 march? Hicks is a 911 Gatekeeper!!
> This is both hilarious and disgusting at the same time.
>
> Angie
> 911 Truth Movement Musings (Watching the Watchers)
> http://www.Angieon911.com
> ------------------------------
>
> From: greg nixon <nxngrg@...>
> Date: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:46 pm
> Subject: Re: [911InsideJobbers] WING TV announced Greg Nixon as guest
> (02/17) nxngrg
>
>
> >>>>>She is a planehugger huh? I am not. I want the message to be f--k
> the gatekeepers I hope that's what comes across.
>
>
>
> --- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "President, USA Exile Govt."
> <prez@> wrote:
> >
> > Forwarded with Compliments of Government of the USA in Exile
(GUSAE):
> > Free Americans Resisting the Fourth Reich on Behalf of All
Species.
> > NOTE: Thanks to flyingsnail.com for this; I hope everyone within
100
> > miles of NYC will attend this critically important, deftly focused
> > demo; by the way, many other groups can be added to the list of
> > "establishment left gatekeepers" below and the one that comes most
> > quickly to mind for me is so-called MoveOn: Move on over,
MoveOn.org,
> > or we'll move on over you. -- kl, pp
> >
> > http://www.flyingsnail.com/
> >
> > Presidents' Day "March for 9/11 Truth,"
> > NYC Ground Zero, 10 a.m.
> Monday,
> > 2/20/06
> >
> > Activists Plan 60s-Style Protest against "War Crimes" and
> > "Media Cover-Up of 9/11" in downtown Manhattan.
> >
> >
> > New York City, NY (PRWEB) February 18, 2006 -- Vermonter Greg
> Nixon is
> > a man on a mission to save America - from itself. He is one of a
new
> > breed of issue-oriented activists who were often not even involved
in
> > politics before 9/11. What mobilizes him is a prospect of
> indescribable
> > horror: he sees plain proof that the WTC was destroyed on 9/11 in an
> > undercover operation within America's own military-intelligence
> > establishment.
> >
> > From all angles, it's a topsy-turvy world view, that can bowl one
> over
> > with vertigo at first. A mirror world with such contrarian
> coordinates
> > as:
> >
> > - the terrorists are Americans, not Arabs;
> >
> > - ex-mayor Giuliani and George Bush are suspects, not heroes of
9/11;
> >
> > - much as the Bush administration capitalized on 9/11 to advance
> its
> > agenda, the 9/11 Truthers seize on it as the Achilles Heel of the
"new
> > militarism," with evidence of a controlled demolition of WTC 1, 2
and
> > 7 as the smoking gun or fatal flaw in the official version;
> >
> > - "left-leaning" media like The Nation, Pacifica's Democracy Now,
> and
> > The New York Times, along with groups like ANSWER and the
Democratic
> > Party, are not seen as a real opposition; because they don't accept
> > "9/11 Truth," they are just playing a part in the plans for World
War
> > IV on the oil fields of the Middle East.
> >
> > Indeed, Greg Nixon would like the President's Day March to take aim
> > especially at the "establishment left gatekeepers."
> >
> > The plan for Monday's march is fairly ad hoc. After assembling at
> WTC
> > Ground Zero, the protesters may march to Attorney General Elliot
> > Spitzer's office with a letter demanding his resignation for failing
> to
> > investigate 9/11. Last year, 9/11 activists in New York filed an
> > extensive complaint with Spitzer, and hopes were high for a time
that
> > he might take up the case. Offices of the above-mentioned
"left-wing
> > gatekeepers" could be next.
> >
> > Speakers expected are Greg Nixon and others, including:
> >
> > Craig Hill, the Vermont Green Party senatorial candidate, who
> > includes photographic evidence of the WTC demolition in his
campaign
> > platform. His website is
> >
> > http://www.hillsenatenow.org.
> >
> > Sander Hicks, author of the 9/11 expose "The Big Wedding" and
> owner of
> > the Vox Pop Democracy Cafe in Brooklyn,
> >
> > http://www.voxpopnet.net.
> >
> > 9/11 activist, historian and radio personality Webster Tarpley will
> > speak at a Greg Nixon event on April 27th at the University of
> > Vermont. Tarpley is devoting his energies to opposing the latest war
> > drive on Iran. He says the plan is to attack Iran already by the end
> of
> > March, which leaves much less time for mobilizing springtime
> > demonstrations such as we saw before the attack on Iraq. (see
> >
> > http://www.waronfreedom.org/activists/stop-amerigeddon.html)
> >
> > He is the author of "9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA".
> >
> > During the run-up to the Iraq war, 9/11 activists tried but failed
to
> > convince the peace movement that exposing 9/11 was the only way to
> stop
> > the juggernaut of war. They felt that rank-and-file pacifists were
> > receptive, but the leadership marched to a different, establishment
> > tune.
> >
> > More details on the Presidents' Day march at
> >
> > http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/01/332307.shtml.
> >
> > See also the feature article on the march at
> >
> > http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/132464/index.php
> >
> > "2/20 March for 9/11 Truth NYC: The Tipping Point? The world is at
> the
> > most serious crossroads in modern history. The fraudulent 'War on
> > Terror' threatens the very future of humanity."
> >
> > For an interview with Greg Nixon, see
> >
> > http://www.phillyimc.org/en/2006/02/19016.shtml.
> >
> > Quote: "Bring your digital camera, too. Because something tells me
> > that history is going to be made in New York City this upcoming
> Monday,
> > in honor of President's Day. That's the day those actually informed
> > about 9/11 will gather together in NYC to honor the birthday of the
> > first GW. You know, the GW who was unable to tell a lie."
> >
> >
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:06:05 -0800 (PST)
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Iran's switch to euros?

I'm a bit confused about it too. If this new urgency about Iran isn't related to the switch to euros, (and I say "if" because I still don't know) then maybe it's simply part of the ongoing plan for geo-political control of the Middle East that was laid out as far back as Brzezinski's "Grand Chessboard" in 1997.

Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote: that's the thing that's got me confused, then why the mad rush into Iran?

alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com> wrote: Hmm, an alternate view on the impending Iran dollar/euro crisis:

articles@vdare.com wrote: Hey Alan, This is an interesting note on Iran selling oil for euros. This guy has a good credentials education-wise.

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A Note On The Iranian Oil Bourse By Paul Craig Roberts
Readers keep asking if Bush is attacking Iran because it plans to open an oil bourse that would permit oil to trade in Euros. A number of readers mistakenly believe that this would wreck the dollar's value.
The answer is no.
The neocons' plans for the Middle East predate any notion of an Iranian oil bourse.
Will an Iranian oil bourse hurt the dollar? Not really.
The dollar's value depends on the world's willingness to hold dollar denominated assets, not on the currency used to pay oil bills. If payments were not made in dollars, there could be a slight negative impact on the dollar from countries reducing their dollar cash balances and from the psychological shock of pricing oil in Euros (or some other currency). However, what really counts is what do the oil producers, for example, do with the currency that they are paid. If they are paid in dollars, but exchange the dollars for Euros or Yen and purchase equities or bonds or real estate in Europe and Japan, it doesn't help that oil is billed in dollars. Or if they are paid in Euros but exchange the Euros for dollars and purchase US assets, it doesn't hurt that the oil is billed in Euros.
The negative impact on the dollar will be far greater from the additional red ink necessary to finance an attack on Iran than from an oil bourse. Today, US war making capability is dependent on the rest of the world to finance it.
Oil is billed in dollars because the dollar is the world reserve currency. The dollar is not the reserve currency because oil is billed in dollars. The US is abusing the dollar's role as reserve currency. When a trusted alternative appears, the dollar is likely to lose its reserve currency role. Iran, however, cannot cause that transition.
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:15:10 -0800 (PST)
From: alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pravda prints 9/11 Truth, as does a mainstream US paper +

Make sure to check out the Things You Can Do NOW list:


mujca.com wrote:


Pravda Prints 9/11 Truth--Will Americans Be the Last to Know?
During the Cold War, Pravda ("truth") was an ironic name. Today, the
US corporate media is as ruthlessly controlled as the Soviet media ever
was--for a rare exception, see next item--and, irony of ironies, Pravda
is telling US the truth about the 9/11 hoax that engineered American
Stalinism:
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/16-02-2006/76020-terorrism-0

Mainstream US Newspaper Publishes Call to 9/11 Truth Insurrection
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/guest/index.php?ntid=72574
If you like this column let them know at:
http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/letter/letter_form.php

Tomorrow 2/20/06: Presidents' Day March For Truth in N.Y.C.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/01/332307.shtml

Things You Can Do NOW
1) Call talk radio and raise holy hell about 9/11. Vow to make at least
one call a day, or at the very least one call a week, and hold yourself
to it. Be sure to phone in to conservative radio hosts and making
general (not specific) comments when answering to initial screening
questioning.
2) Order yourself a big bankroll of Deception Dollars from
http://www.deceptiondollar.com/ Get them in quantity for only five
cents each! Carry them everywhere, give them away and watch people do a
double-take, then crack up. Put them in the driver's door crack of cars
with appropriate bumperstickers. Hand them out at rallies and concerts.
3) Organize a showing of one or more 9/11 truth videos in your church,
library or living room.
4) Send the video links below to everyone you know:

9/11 Videos Available Online

Its never been easier to spread the truth, every bulletin board, blog,
and email address on the web can be cheaply and easily infected with
9/11 truth. No better time than now, let it rip:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=eyewitness

http://video.google.com/videoplay?=5137581991288263801&q=loose+change

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 01:42:37 -0000
From: "Michele Parillo" <dogmaphobicincali@yahoo.com>
Subject: Spread the Truth!

I just wanted to notify anyone interested that the GOP is targeting
people who are very active in their area with mailings.

I received a letter from Sen. Frist that was handtyped. It was sent
to a name I use only for my websites and sent to my business address
which I've never used to promote politics. The stamp was also not
cancelled by the post office, and placed in a locked mail box by the
postal service.

Anyone else experience anything like this? If so, let me know.

I also have a website regarding the upcoming elections. We are
working on an internation boycott of advertisers that support the
bogus news we all receive on the television, as well as organizing a
mass voter "un-registering" against the democratic party. We are
hoping to have thousands of democrats re-register as independents,
greens, socialists, etc. The democratic congresspeople are not
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:10:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Iran's switch to euros?

you're right,

all indicators say we going into iran and that was the reason for going into iraq, i mean i was incredibly skeptical they went into iraq because of WMD (before i woke up to 911) there must be another reason.....

hitech2_47460 <hitech2_47460@yahoo.com> wrote:
As good as Craig Roberts SOUNDS, I have to disagree. WHY the
enourmous COINCIDENCE of the FED ceasing to report the M3 Money
supply at the SAME TIME the Iranian Bourse goes online! And Iraq did
the SAME THING just before we walloped THEM!

\

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Naveed <flanker12k@...> wrote:
>
> that's the thing that's got me confused, then why the mad rush into
Iran?
>
> alan random <alanrandom@...> wrote: Hmm, an alternate view on the
impending Iran dollar/euro crisis:
>
> articles@... wrote: Hey Alan, This is an
interesting note on Iran selling oil for euros. This guy has a good
credentials education-wise.
>
>
> if (self != top) top.location.href = location.href;
> Paul Craig Roberts
Archive function goEmailASP
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document.URL document.location =
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> A Note On The Iranian Oil Bourse By Paul Craig Roberts
> Readers keep asking if Bush is attacking Iran because it plans to
open an oil bourse that would permit oil to trade in Euros. A number
of readers mistakenly believe that this would wreck the dollar's
value.
> The answer is no.
> The neocons' plans for the Middle East predate any notion of an
Iranian oil bourse.
> Will an Iranian oil bourse hurt the dollar? Not really.
> The dollar's value depends on the world's willingness to hold
dollar denominated assets, not on the currency used to pay oil bills.
If payments were not made in dollars, there could be a slight
negative impact on the dollar from countries reducing their dollar
cash balances and from the psychological shock of pricing oil in
Euros (or some other currency). However, what really counts is what
do the oil producers, for example, do with the currency that they are
paid. If they are paid in dollars, but exchange the dollars for Euros
or Yen and purchase equities or bonds or real estate in Europe and
Japan, it doesn't help that oil is billed in dollars. Or if they are
paid in Euros but exchange the Euros for dollars and purchase US
assets, it doesn't hurt that the oil is billed in Euros.
> The negative impact on the dollar will be far greater from the
additional red ink necessary to finance an attack on Iran than from
an oil bourse. Today, US war making capability is dependent on the
rest of the world to finance it.
> Oil is billed in dollars because the dollar is the world reserve
currency. The dollar is not the reserve currency because oil is
billed in dollars. The US is abusing the dollar's role as reserve
currency. When a trusted alternative appears, the dollar is likely to
lose its reserve currency role. Iran, however, cannot cause that
transition.
> COPYRIGHT CREATORS SYNDICATE, INC.
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Stratton of The Tyranny of Good Intentions : How Prosecutors and
Bureaucrats Are Trampling the Constitution in the Name of Justice.
Click here for Peter Brimelow's Forbes Magazine interview with
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 14:31:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: Jets?? I don't have any jets.

Lowell byrd <cbyrdman@yahoo.com> wrote: Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 22:59:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Lowell byrd <cbyrdman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Jets?? I don't have any jets.
To: flanker12k@yahoo.com

Naveed, what do you mean by "cool your jets"? I don't even have a car, therefore; there are NO jets in my material life.
Again I ask, what do you mean "or have them cooled for you"? Since I do not own any jets, your simple remark is as simple as simple can be.
Is there a possiblity you are attempting to be a "threat" to me? If so, are you Muslim? This would explain your motives for such simple responses.

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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:28:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Tammy Parillo <dogmaphobicincali@yahoo.com>
Subject: Spread the Truth

I just wanted to notify anyone interested that the GOP is targeting people who are very active in their area with mailings.

I received a letter from Sen. Frist that was handtyped. It was sent to a name I use only for my websites and sent to my business address which I've never used to promote politics. The stamp was also not cancelled by the post office, and placed in a locked mail box by the postal service.

Anyone else experience anything like this? If so, let me know.

I also have a website regarding the upcoming elections. We are working on an internation boycott of advertisers that support the bogus news we all receive on the television, as well as organizing a mass voter "un-registering" against the democratic party. We are hoping to have thousands of democrats re-register as independents, greens, socialists, etc. The democratic congresspeople are not representing our interest.

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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:01:52 EST
From: Mofmars3@wmconnect.com
Subject: ***Groups Alert***SOS***Please Forward & then Do your part...It's now or never

It's 11:01 PM Eastern Time

Make sure to check out the Things You Can Do NOW list for the President's Day
March tomorrow in New York City

Then see the note from Marsha at the end...See it especially if you don't pay
federal taxes or if you don't want to because you know the truth

> Pravda Prints 9/11 Truth--Will Americans Be the Last to Know?
> During the Cold War, Pravda ("truth") was an ironic name. Today, the
> US corporate media is as ruthlessly controlled as the Soviet media ever
> was--for a rare exception, see next item--and, irony of ironies, Pravda
> is telling US the truth about the 9/11 hoax that engineered American
> Stalinism:
> <A HREF="http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/16-02-2006/76020-terorrism-0">http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/16-02-2006/76020-terorrism-0</A>
>
> Mainstream US Newspaper Publishes Call to 9/11 Truth Insurrection
> <A HREF="http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/guest/index.php?ntid=72574">http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/guest/index.php?ntid=72574</A>
> If you like this column let them know at:
> <A HREF="http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/letter/letter_form.php">http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/letter/letter_form.php</A>
>
> Tomorrow 2/20/06: Presidents' Day March For Truth in N.Y.C.
> <A HREF="http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/01/332307.shtml">http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/01/332307.shtml</A>
>
> Things You Can Do NOW
> 1) Call talk radio and raise holy hell about 9/11. Vow to make at least
> one call a day, or at the very least one call a week, and hold yourself
> to it. Be sure to phone in to conservative radio hosts and making
> general (not specific) comments when answering to initial screening
> questioning.
> 2) Order yourself a big bankroll of Deception Dollars from
> <A HREF="http://www.deceptiondollar.com/">http://www.deceptiondollar.com/</A> Get them in quantity for only five
> cents each! Carry them everywhere, give them away and watch people do a
> double-take, then crack up. Put them in the driver's door crack of cars
> with appropriate bumperstickers. Hand them out at rallies and concerts.
> 3) Organize a showing of one or more 9/11 truth videos in your church,
> library or living room.
> 4) Send the video links below to everyone you know:
>
> 9/11 Videos Available Online
>
> Its never been easier to spread the truth, every bulletin board, blog,
> and email address on the web can be cheaply and easily infected with
> 9/11 truth. No better time than now, let it rip:
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=eyewitness">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=eyewitness</A>
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay?=5137581991288263801&q=loose+change">http://video.google.com/videoplay?=5137581991288263801&q=loose+change</A>
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay">http://video.google.com/videoplay</A>?
> docid=9124194186333362123&q=9%2F11+reopen
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay">http://video.google.com/videoplay</A>?
> docid=1336167662031629480&q=painful+deceptions
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?
> docid=8797525979024486145&q=9%2F11+ruppert
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid</A>=
> -6529813972926262623&q=the+great+conspiracy
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=alex+jones&so=0">http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=alex+jones&so=0</A>
>
> Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things
> for granted." --- Aldous Huxley
>
>
> MONDO TERROR ALERTS:
>
> Terrifying New Terror Campaign by Terrorists Terrorizing Terrified
> Tourists at Camp Timidford, Texas
> <A HREF="http://www.mytown.ca/sanityclaws/">http://www.mytown.ca/sanityclaws/</A>
>
> The Missing Portion of the Fatty Bin Laden "Confession Video"
> <A HREF="http://www.dcdave.com/article4/011216.html">http://www.dcdave.com/article4/011216.html</A>
>
>
> Kevin Barrett
> Coordinator, MUJCA-NET: <A HREF="http://mujca.com/">http://mujca.com</A>
> harping

Note from Marsha

In this emailing I'm sending a copy to <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/legality-of-income-tax/">legality-of-income-tax</A>
http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=legality-of-income-tax&submit=Search

I am thanking their membership which is well over 2000 for putting up with me
these past few years...

I know many of my posts seemed off topic but in the need to help unify all
the many important groups, I'm afraid I did have to make a pest out of myself
many times

Always harping on the fact the we all have the same enemy and how we must
join together & strike at that same root at the same time no matter what issues
we hold, as all is connected

I thank this tax group for posting some of what I have had to say over the
years and allowing me to keep my membership, too...

IMO this is the most knowledgeable tax group on the net concerning the
illegal federal income tax that has been forced upon "US"

Concerning this 911 Truth March in New York tomorrow, I just wanted to point
something out ...Can you imagine if we joined not just groups but movements
together...

Which is actually being done behind the scenes by big name organizations, as
we speak...This is not just multiples groups with differing issues as I have
been doing, I'm speaking of, either

If we had promoted this happening...which I did...But If I had more help and
knew sooner...Along with the help of wingtv.net...Can you imagine?

Hey, I hear over a million, maybe it was millions, I heard?...I don't
remember, there's been so much

Millions sound too good to be true...I heard they were no longer paying that
illegal tax, which is within their rights

What if all those angry and in the know, tax activists joined in with the 911
activists tomorrow?...and the anti war people, too...Can you just imagine

And on and on...

Imagine
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Press Release "War Crimes" and "Media Cover-Up of 9/11" Forward Widely

Presidents' Day "March for 9/11 Truth," NYC Ground Zero, 10 a.m. Monday,
2/20/06

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/2/prweb348151.htm&cid=1104412143

A must see>>>wingtv.net>>>Friday, Feb. 17th. show or Alternate link>>><A HREF="http://thewebfairy.com/hardtruth/gregnixon02-20.mp3">
http://thewebfairy.com/hardtruth/gregnixon02-20.mp3</A>

I'm almost ready to notify the major newspapers with a new press
release...I'll be sending it to the media afterwards

Watch for it in your groups and forward it everywhere, please

I check my email frequently so if you need media addresses put SOS in the
subject box so I see it & I'll send them to you

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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:17:49 -0800 (PST)
From: al rogers <goatsortowers@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sponsor a "We're No Fools" video showing on April Fools' Daty Saturday, April 1 on the public access channel of your cable TV system, at your public library, or at house parties

Jim Senyszyn <jnsenyszyn@insightbb.com> wrote: SPONSOR A "WE'RE NO FOOLS" VIDEO SHOWING

APRIL FOOLS DAY, SATURDAY APRIL 1

ON THE PUBLIC ACCESS CHANNEL OF YOUR CABLE TV SYSTEM,

AT YOUR PUBLIC LIBRARY, OR AT HOUSE PARTIES.

April Fools Day, Saturday, April 1 gives us an opportunity to show

"We're No Fools" and are not buying the official version of the 9/11

story.

Locally I am sponsoring VHS tapes (that is the only format my local

station can use) on the public access channel of my local cable TV

system.

I am trying to run Dr. David Ray Griffin's talk "9/11 and the

American Empire: How Should Religious People Respond?" on the

religious public access channel--- well populated by numerous

preachers who have taken advantage of public access very extensively;

and "Truth and Politics: Unanswered Questions about 9/11" of Dr.

Griffin's October 2004 Santa Rosa, CA talk, and a light hearted

comical and musical "Behind Every Terrorist- There is Bush" on the

less used secular public access channel.

I am also showing a DVD of Eric Hufschmid's "Painful Deceptions:

Analysis of the 9-11 Attack" narrated and edited by ReOpen911.org

and supplied by 911busters.com at the Main Downtown Branch of the

Peoria Public Library Saturday, March 4 at 2 p.m. and plan to show

Dr. Steven E. Jones February 1, 2006 talk at Utah Valley State

College "9/11 Revisited: Scientific and Ethical Questions" DVD

obtained from 911TV on the first Saturday of April, April Fool's

Day, April 1 at Main Downtown branch of the Peoria Public Library.

The territorial scope of each cable system is quite limited. For

instance, here Peoria we still need sponsors "across the river"

in East Peori, Morton, and Pekin and in rural Peoria County

served by other branches of our cable TV system. Also, Chicago,

IL has 31 different cable TV systems. Sponsors are needed who

reside (but don't necessarily have to subscribe)inside each cable

system's territory.

Information about how to go about sponsoring a public access

cable TV video showing and 911TV's current VHS tape offerings

follow:

1. contact your local public access station and become a sponsor. it is
best to just walk in and start meeting the staff. To find your public
access station go to:

http://www.septembereleventh.org/alerts/publicaccess.php

to find out about public access go to: http://www.alliancecm.org
<http://www.alliancecm.org/>

2. find out if they want DVD or VHS. see if you can have a continuing slot
shown at specific times each week, for a month at a time, or something like
that. you can give the program a name like: "911Truth".

they often also have specials where they show your material when they have
empty slots.

3. do they want 1/2 hour or 1 hours programs (or both)? how much black at
the beginning and whether they require a "slate" with your name? do they
want "bars & tone"?

4. we are asking for donations of $10 per disk or tape including shipping.

how will this affect your ability to become a sponsor?

5. attached is the list of material we presently have available. you don't
have to sponsor a program to obtain this material. show it to friends!

--911TV

All donations are tax deductible.

Checks for $50 or more should be made out to Agape Foundation (note for
Northern CA 9-11 Truth Alliance)

or checks for less than $50 should be made out to Northern California 9-11
Truth Alliance (note for Community TV Outreach)

mail donations, check or cash, to:

911TV

266 Orange Blossom Lane

San Rafael CA 94903

--911TV

Some of the titles 911TV has available are:

"Behind Every Terrorist, There is a BUSH" a benefit show for the SF
International Inquiry into 9/11. Finally, a little comedy relief --
talented comics, great music, flash movies. BET

"9/11 and the American Empire: How Should Religious People Respond?" by
David Ray Griffin. David's 4/18/5 Madison WI talk, shown nationwide by
C-span! The blockbuster expose with lots of video enhancment! DRG2, DRG2-1

"Truth & Politics" by David Ray Griffin (1 hour) A presentation by DRG in
Santa Rosa CA last October. Elegant dissection of the whitehouse 9/11
commission with lots of video inserts. DRG1, DRG1-1

"Perspective on 911" by Ken Jenkins (1 hour), another great introduction to
9/11 has been around for a number of years. Now in 1 hour public access
version. PER-1

"The Great Conspiracy" by Barrie Zwicker (1 hour and 1:15 versions), the
very best, most professional, introduction to 911 there is! Called the
"9/11 News Special You Never Saw!" TGC, TGC-1

"The Great Deception" by Barrie Zwicker (45 min) The first major media
questioning of the events of 9/11/2001. Shown only in Canada in seven
weekly installments beginning 1/12/2002. Also two part 1/2 hr PA version.
TGD

"Confronting the Evidence" by Jimmy Walter. A 1 hour public access version
of the 9/11/2004 made for video presentation in New York. No pods or
flashes. CTE-1

"The Power of Nightmares" by the BBC. Three one-hour episodes
deconstructing the al-queda myth all on one DVD. Never shown in is
country. BBC (DVD only), PON (1/2 hr. edit of part 3, wraps it up!)

"Navigating the Falling Dollar" by Catherine Austin Fitts. Powerful
Strategies for the Ethical Investor in Uncertain Economic Times! NF$

Video from the SF citizens' inquiry, TO citizens' inquiry, the NY citizens'
commission (6hr on one DVD), the LA grand jury (6hr on one DVD), Many 1
hour and 1/2 hour programs (see VC-12-7.doc). SF-1,2,3,4,5, NY6, LAGJ6

Mike Ruppert indicts Cheney, John Judge rips the "Omission" Commission,
Indira Singh blows the whistle on PTEK from NY Citizen's Commission 9/9/2004
NY-A

Jim Hoffman, Jenna Orkin, Jeff King: "WTC Demolition and Environmental
Disaster",

a great refutation of the Official Conspiracy Theory! JH, JH-1 (PA version)

"Psychological Operations and 9/11" by Ken Jenkin from the Toronto
Citizen's Inquiry 5/26/2004. Ken also compiled "Perspective on 9/11" KJ-1

Nafeez Ahmed discussing his new book, "The War on Truth", broadcast by
C-span, taped at the DC truth convergence, 7/23/5. NA

"Stolen Elections" Video concerning vote fraud in recent elections! Marin
Peace & Justice Coalition SE

Frank Dorrell's "What I learned about U.S. Foreign Policy", a real
eye-opener! FD2

What of this material can you use? We are asking for donations of $10 per
disk or tape including shipping. No one turned away for lack of funds.
Please send your order by email to 911TV@septembereleventh.org

All donations are tax deductible.

Checks for $50 or more should be made out to

Agape Foundation

(note for Northern CA 9-11 Truth Alliance)

or checks for less than $50 should be made out to

Northern California 9-11 Truth Alliance

(note for Community TV Outreach)

mail donations, check or cash, to:

911TV

266 Orange Blossom Lane

San Rafael CA 94903

attached are some of the various vids we have available.

these below are ready for public access with bars and tone, countdown,

content, black:

1/2 hour, cut for public access:

SF-1.1 (31;25).toast "9/11 Pioneers"

SF-1.2 (31;19).toast "Inside Job"

SF-1.3 (31;08).toast "The Great Endarkenment"

SF-1.4 (31;16).toast "The War on Freedom"

SF-2.1 (30;42).toast "SF Documentary"

SF-3.1 (30;49).toast "DRG on INN"

PON (31;19).toast "The Power of Nightmares"

DRG-DC2 (31;10).toast "A Significant Pattern"

1 hour, cut for public access:

DRG1-1 (1;00;49).toast "Truth & Politics"

DRG2-1 (1;00;59).toast "American Empire"

PER-1 (1;00;42).toast "Perspective on 9/11"

BET (1;01;16).toast "Behind Every Terrorist"

JH1-1 (1;01;09).toast "WTC Demolition"

KJ1-1 (1;00;49).toast "Psy Ops"

TGC-1 (1;01;17).toast "The Great Conspiracy"

CTE-1 PA (1;00;54).toast "Confronting the Evidence"

911TV@septembereleventh.org

thanks for your consideration of our material. --911TV/hummux

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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:34:42 -0800 (PST)
From: al rogers <goatsortowers@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sander Hicks on AIr America's Majority Report Friday Night

Did anybody get a chance to hear this on Air America?
Did Sander mention 9/11?

Sander Hicks <sander@voxpopnet.net> wrote:

I'm definitely going to Vox Pop tomorrow for the Jazz Festival, I've been hearing great things about this young local sax player, Jon DeLucia. But then, at 9:30 PM I will be ducking into a phone booth to do a radio appearance on the Majority Report, my favorite Air America show.

If you can, please listen in, there are over 89 stations nation-wide as per http://www.airamericaradio.com/

Majority Report's Janeane Garofalo is an old pal, and even though she's a lefty celeb and guest star on the West Wing now, don't forget: a couple years ago she was pilloried for being the first Hollywood actor to step up and say the war is wrong. Before it was cool. Before people in the NBA or the Mets were doing it (peace be upon them, too.)

My pal Alex just heard her on tonight's show....he said: "I just heard janeane garofalo mention sander hicks running for governor of ny, and what sounded like an endorsement! she said she likes spitzer, but was concerned about the 911 investigation cover up, and therefore, could not give spitzer her blessings."

I'm going to try to pack a number of issues and fun stuff into the 8 minutes we have. If you're in NYC, Air America of course is on the old WLIB, AM 1160. It's also webcast.

XO

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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:42:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Iran's switch to euros?

Its all part of the grand or not so grand scheme of things. Its the NWO/Illuminati at work to bring us one step closer to falling, To make the country weaker and poorer. To bring about their dream. Their plan. a ""New World Order!"" So was syria dumping the dollar. Like FDR said "If it happens in the political world, it is NO MISTAKE" Or something like that.

alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com> wrote: I'm a bit confused about it too. If this new urgency about Iran isn't related to the switch to euros, (and I say "if" because I still don't know) then maybe it's simply part of the ongoing plan for geo-political control of the Middle East that was laid out as far back as Brzezinski's "Grand Chessboard" in 1997.

Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote: that's the thing that's got me confused, then why the mad rush into Iran?

alan random <alanrandom@yahoo.com> wrote: Hmm, an alternate view on the impending Iran dollar/euro crisis:

articles@vdare.com wrote: Hey Alan, This is an interesting note on Iran selling oil for euros. This guy has a good credentials education-wise.

if (self != top) top.location.href = location.href;
Paul Craig Roberts Archive function goEmailASP() { var newUrl = "http://www.vdare.com/asp/emailFriend.asp?url=" + document.URL document.location = newUrl } function goPrintASP() { var newUrl = "http://www.vdare.com/asp/printPage.asp?url=" + document.URL document.location = newUrl } February 10, 2006
A Note On The Iranian Oil Bourse By Paul Craig Roberts
Readers keep asking if Bush is attacking Iran because it plans to open an oil bourse that would permit oil to trade in Euros. A number of readers mistakenly believe that this would wreck the dollar's value.
The answer is no.
The neocons' plans for the Middle East predate any notion of an Iranian oil bourse.
Will an Iranian oil bourse hurt the dollar? Not really.
The dollar's value depends on the world's willingness to hold dollar denominated assets, not on the currency used to pay oil bills. If payments were not made in dollars, there could be a slight negative impact on the dollar from countries reducing their dollar cash balances and from the psychological shock of pricing oil in Euros (or some other currency). However, what really counts is what do the oil producers, for example, do with the currency that they are paid. If they are paid in dollars, but exchange the dollars for Euros or Yen and purchase equities or bonds or real estate in Europe and Japan, it doesn't help that oil is billed in dollars. Or if they are paid in Euros but exchange the Euros for dollars and purchase US assets, it doesn't hurt that the oil is billed in Euros.
The negative impact on the dollar will be far greater from the additional red ink necessary to finance an attack on Iran than from an oil bourse. Today, US war making capability is dependent on the rest of the world to finance it.
Oil is billed in dollars because the dollar is the world reserve currency. The dollar is not the reserve currency because oil is billed in dollars. The US is abusing the dollar's role as reserve currency. When a trusted alternative appears, the dollar is likely to lose its reserve currency role. Iran, however, cannot cause that transition.
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:53:22 -0800 (PST)
From: al rogers <goatsortowers@yahoo.com>
Subject: D'oh! Here's audio of Sander Hicks on Majority Report:

http://hicksforgovernor.com/

At around the 6 minute mark he starts talking about the "9/11 truth movement" and how 9/11 should be a primary campaign issue. He doesn't clarify LIHOP or MIHOP, but just the fact that he's getting the issue on Air America at all is a good sign.


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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 06:00:14 -0000
From: "Caomhain {Kevin} Lee Hammond" <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Great website! Check it OUT!

This is a site operated by some viewers of my show. They are
constitutional researchers. I hope to get them on the show soon!
www.amendment-13.org

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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 02:24:18 EST
From: Mofmars3@wmconnect.com
Subject: Sent to all media & major newspapers>>>"War Crimes" and "Media Cover-Up of 9/11"

Please do some last minute forwarding of this most urgent press release and
tell everyone about this historical event.

Make some phone calls and send some messages to your elected officials and
tell them where you stand.

The future and very lives of our children count on you.

<A HREF="http://websearch.cs.com/wm/boomframe.jsp?query=media+and+elected+officials&page=1&offset=0&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3D8bfefceec8e33d5a%26clickedItemRank%3D2%26userQuery%3Dmedia%2Band%2Belected%2Bofficials%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.congress.org%252Fcongressorg%252Fstate%252Fmain%252F%253Fstate%253DGA%26invocationType%3D-%26fromPage%3Dwmtsearchsearch%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.congress.org%2Fcongressorg%2Fstate%2Fmain%2F%253Fstate%253DGA">Click here: Congress.org</A> http://tinyurl.com/9lbtg

Press Release

"War Crimes" and "Media Cover-Up of 9/11"

Presidents' Day "March for 9/11 Truth," NYC Ground Zero, 10 a.m. Monday,
2/20/06

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/2/prweb348151.htm&cid=1104412143

A must see>>>wingtv.net interview with Greg Nixon, founder of the
President's Day March>>>See Friday, Feb. 17th. show

Alternate link for Wing TV...The alternative to main stream media>>><A HREF="http://thewebfairy.com/hardtruth/gregnixon02-20.mp3">
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"We The People" demand truth in media.

We demand the present administration resign. We demand our entire corrupt
government and broken system be revamped.

We want DC downsized. We mean to keep our rights and we want the government
and elected officials to know they are "our" employees.

Marsha McClelland
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:39:55 EST
From: Mofmars3@wmconnect.com
Subject: Last press release tonight...I have hit all New York newspapers, big & little..

2/20/06 - 3:39 am Eastern time

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Press Release

"We The People" demand truth in media.

We demand the present administration resign.

We demand our entire corrupt government and broken system be revamped.

We want DC downsized.

We mean to keep our rights and we want the government and elected officials
to know they are "our" employees.

We will begin with exposing the truth behind the 911 tragedy.

Marsha McClelland
Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
330 926-1679

"We The People United Movement"
We are many Political and Patriot Groups joining together, to help right the
wrongs in America..."United We Will Stand"

"War Crimes" and "Media Cover-Up of 9/11"

Presidents' Day "March for 9/11 Truth," NYC Ground Zero, 10 a.m. Monday,
2/20/06

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/2/prweb348151.htm&cid=1104412143

A must see>>>wingtv.net interview with Greg Nixon, founder of the
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:53:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Larry Lawson <hitech2_47460@yahoo.com>
Subject: Ron Paul on Iran, Iraq and the US Dollar

Why the US Hates Iraq, Iran, and Venezuela
Ron Paul on the end of dollar hegemony.

The End of Dollar Hegemony
by Ron Paul
by Ron Paul
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Watch Ron Paul's speech on video. Before the US House of Representatives, February 15, 2006 A hundred years ago it was called “dollar diplomacy.” After World War II, and especially after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989, that policy evolved into “dollar hegemony.” But after all these many years of great success, our dollar dominance is coming to an end. It has been said, rightly, that he who holds the gold makes the rules. In earlier times it was readily accepted that fair and honest trade required an exchange for something of real value.
First it was simply barter of goods. Then it was discovered that gold held a universal attraction, and was a convenient substitute for more cumbersome barter transactions. Not only did gold facilitate exchange of goods and services, it served as a store of value for those who wanted to save for a rainy day.
Though money developed naturally in the marketplace, as governments grew in power they assumed monopoly control over money. Sometimes governments succeeded in guaranteeing the quality and purity of gold, but in time governments learned to outspend their revenues. New or higher taxes always incurred the disapproval of the people, so it wasn’t long before Kings and Caesars learned how to inflate their currencies by reducing the amount of gold in each coin – always hoping their subjects wouldn’t discover the fraud. But the people always did, and they strenuously objected.
This helped pressure leaders to seek more gold by conquering other nations. The people became accustomed to living beyond their means, and enjoyed the circuses and bread. Financing extravagances by conquering foreign lands seemed a logical alternative to working harder and producing more. Besides, conquering nations not only brought home gold, they brought home slaves as well. Taxing the people in conquered territories also provided an incentive to build empires. This system of government worked well for a while, but the moral decline of the people led to an unwillingness to produce for themselves. There was a limit to the number of countries that could be sacked for their wealth, and this always brought empires to an end. When gold no longer could be obtained, their military might crumbled. In those days those who held the gold truly wrote the rules and lived well.
That general rule has held fast throughout the ages. When gold was used, and the rules protected honest commerce, productive nations thrived. Whenever wealthy nations – those with powerful armies and gold – strived only for empire and easy fortunes to support welfare at home, those nations failed.
Today the principles are the same, but the process is quite different. Gold no longer is the currency of the realm; paper is. The truth now is: “He who prints the money makes the rules” – at least for the time being. Although gold is not used, the goals are the same: compel foreign countries to produce and subsidize the country with military superiority and control over the monetary printing presses.
Since printing paper money is nothing short of counterfeiting, the issuer of the international currency must always be the country with the military might to guarantee control over the system. This magnificent scheme seems the perfect system for obtaining perpetual wealth for the country that issues the de facto world currency. The one problem, however, is that such a system destroys the character of the counterfeiting nation’s people – just as was the case when gold was the currency and it was obtained by conquering other nations. And this destroys the incentive to save and produce, while encouraging debt and runaway welfare.
The pressure at home to inflate the currency comes from the corporate welfare recipients, as well as those who demand handouts as compensation for their needs and perceived injuries by others. In both cases personal responsibility for one’s actions is rejected.
When paper money is rejected, or when gold runs out, wealth and political stability are lost. The country then must go from living beyond its means to living beneath its means, until the economic and political systems adjust to the new rules – rules no longer written by those who ran the now defunct printing press.
“Dollar Diplomacy,” a policy instituted by William Howard Taft and his Secretary of State Philander C. Knox, was designed to enhance U.S. commercial investments in Latin America and the Far East. McKinley concocted a war against Spain in 1898, and (Teddy) Roosevelt’s corollary to the Monroe Doctrine preceded Taft’s aggressive approach to using the U.S. dollar and diplomatic influence to secure U.S. investments abroad. This earned the popular title of “Dollar Diplomacy.” The significance of Roosevelt’s change was that our intervention now could be justified by the mere “appearance” that a country of interest to us was politically or fiscally vulnerable to European control. Not only did we claim a right, but even an official U.S. government “obligation” to protect our commercial interests from Europeans.
This new policy came on the heels of the “gunboat” diplomacy of the late 19th century, and it meant we could buy influence before resorting to the threat of force. By the time the “dollar diplomacy” of William Howard Taft was clearly articulated, the seeds of American empire were planted. And they were destined to grow in the fertile political soil of a country that lost its love and respect for the republic bequeathed to us by the authors of the Constitution. And indeed they did. It wasn’t too long before dollar “diplomacy” became dollar “hegemony” in the second half of the 20th century.
This transition only could have occurred with a dramatic change in monetary policy and the nature of the dollar itself.
Congress created the Federal Reserve System in 1913. Between then and 1971 the principle of sound money was systematically undermined. Between 1913 and 1971, the Federal Reserve found it much easier to expand the money supply at will for financing war or manipulating the economy with little resistance from Congress – while benefiting the special interests that influence government.
Dollar dominance got a huge boost after World War II. We were spared the destruction that so many other nations suffered, and our coffers were filled with the world’s gold. But the world chose not to return to the discipline of the gold standard, and the politicians applauded. Printing money to pay the bills was a lot more popular than taxing or restraining unnecessary spending. In spite of the short-term benefits, imbalances were institutionalized for decades to come.
The 1944 Bretton Woods agreement solidified the dollar as the preeminent world reserve currency, replacing the British pound. Due to our political and military muscle, and because we had a huge amount of physical gold, the world readily accepted our dollar (defined as 1/35th of an ounce of gold) as the world’s reserve currency. The dollar was said to be “as good as gold,” and convertible to all foreign central banks at that rate. For American citizens, however, it remained illegal to own. This was a gold-exchange standard that from inception was doomed to fail.
The U.S. did exactly what many predicted she would do. She printed more dollars for which there was no gold backing. But the world was content to accept those dollars for more than 25 years with little question – until the French and others in the late 1960s demanded we fulfill our promise to pay one ounce of gold for each $35 they delivered to the U.S. Treasury. This resulted in a huge gold drain that brought an end to a very poorly devised pseudo-gold standard.
It all ended on August 15, 1971, when Nixon closed the gold window and refused to pay out any of our remaining 280 million ounces of gold. In essence, we declared our insolvency and everyone recognized some other monetary system had to be devised in order to bring stability to the markets.
Amazingly, a new system was devised which allowed the U.S. to operate the printing presses for the world reserve currency with no restraints placed on it – not even a pretense of gold convertibility, none whatsoever! Though the new policy was even more deeply flawed, it nevertheless opened the door for dollar hegemony to spread.
Realizing the world was embarking on something new and mind-boggling, elite money managers, with especially strong support from U.S. authorities, struck an agreement with OPEC to price oil in U.S. dollars exclusively for all worldwide transactions. This gave the dollar a special place among world currencies and in essence “backed” the dollar with oil. In return, the U.S. promised to protect the various oil-rich kingdoms in the Persian Gulf against threat of invasion or domestic coup. This arrangement helped ignite the radical Islamic movement among those who resented our influence in the region.
The arrangement gave the dollar artificial strength, with tremendous financial benefits for the United States.
It allowed us to export our monetary inflation by buying oil and other goods at a great discount as dollar influence flourished.
This post-Bretton Woods system was much more fragile than the system that existed between 1945 and 1971. Though the dollar/oil arrangement was helpful, it was not nearly as stable as the pseudo–gold standard under Bretton Woods. It certainly was less stable than the gold standard of the late 19th century.
During the 1970s the dollar nearly collapsed, as oil prices surged and gold skyrocketed to $800 an ounce. By 1979 interest rates of 21% were required to rescue the system. The pressure on the dollar in the 1970s, in spite of the benefits accrued to it, reflected reckless budget deficits and monetary inflation during the 1960s. The markets were not fooled by LBJ’s claim that we could afford both “guns and butter.”
Once again the dollar was rescued, and this ushered in the age of true dollar hegemony lasting from the early 1980s to the present. With tremendous cooperation coming from the central banks and international commercial banks, the dollar was accepted as if it were gold.
Fed Chair Alan Greenspan, on several occasions before the House Banking Committee, answered my challenges to him about his previously held favorable views on gold by claiming that he and other central bankers had gotten paper money – i.e. the dollar system – to respond as if it were gold. Each time I strongly disagreed, and pointed out that if they had achieved such a feat they would have defied centuries of economic history regarding the need for money to be something of real value. He smugly and confidently concurred with this.
In recent years central banks and various financial institutions, all with vested interests in maintaining a workable fiat dollar standard, were not secretive about selling and loaning large amounts of gold to the market even while decreasing gold prices raised serious questions about the wisdom of such a policy. They never admitted to gold price fixing, but the evidence is abundant that they believed if the gold price fell it would convey a sense of confidence to the market, confidence that they indeed had achieved amazing success in turning paper into gold.
Increasing gold prices historically are viewed as an indicator of distrust in paper currency. This recent effort was not a whole lot different than the U.S. Treasury selling gold at $35 an ounce in the 1960s, in an attempt to convince the world the dollar was sound and as good as gold. Even during the Depression, one of Roosevelt’s first acts was to remove free market gold pricing as an indication of a flawed monetary system by making it illegal for American citizens to own gold. Economic law eventually limited that effort, as it did in the early 1970s when our Treasury and the IMF tried to fix the price of gold by dumping tons into the market to dampen the enthusiasm of those seeking a safe haven for a falling dollar after gold ownership was re-legalized.
Once again the effort between 1980 and 2000 to fool the market as to the true value of the dollar proved unsuccessful. In the past 5 years the dollar has been devalued in terms of gold by more than 50%. You just can’t fool all the people all the time, even with the power of the mighty printing press and money creating system of the Federal Reserve.
Even with all the shortcomings of the fiat monetary system, dollar influence thrived. The results seemed beneficial, but gross distortions built into the system remained. And true to form, Washington politicians are only too anxious to solve the problems cropping up with window dressing, while failing to understand and deal with the underlying flawed policy. Protectionism, fixing exchange rates, punitive tariffs, politically motivated sanctions, corporate subsidies, international trade management, price controls, interest rate and wage controls, super-nationalist sentiments, threats of force, and even war are resorted to – all to solve the problems artificially created by deeply flawed monetary and economic systems.
In the short run, the issuer of a fiat reserve currency can accrue great economic benefits. In the long run, it poses a threat to the country issuing the world currency. In this case that’s the United States. As long as foreign countries take our dollars in return for real goods, we come out ahead. This is a benefit many in Congress fail to recognize, as they bash China for maintaining a positive trade balance with us. But this leads to a loss of manufacturing jobs to overseas markets, as we become more dependent on others and less self-sufficient. Foreign countries accumulate our dollars due to their high savings rates, and graciously loan them back to us at low interest rates to finance our excessive consumption.
It sounds like a great deal for everyone, except the time will come when our dollars – due to their depreciation – will be received less enthusiastically or even be rejected by foreign countries. That could create a whole new ballgame and force us to pay a price for living beyond our means and our production. The shift in sentiment regarding the dollar has already started, but the worst is yet to come.
The agreement with OPEC in the 1970s to price oil in dollars has provided tremendous artificial strength to the dollar as the preeminent reserve currency. This has created a universal demand for the dollar, and soaks up the huge number of new dollars generated each year. Last year alone M3 increased over $700 billion.
The artificial demand for our dollar, along with our military might, places us in the unique position to “rule” the world without productive work or savings, and without limits on consumer spending or deficits. The problem is, it can’t last.
Price inflation is raising its ugly head, and the NASDAQ bubble – generated by easy money – has burst.
The housing bubble likewise created is deflating.
Gold prices have doubled, and federal spending is out of sight with zero political will to rein it in.
The trade deficit last year was over $728 billion. A $2 trillion war is raging, and plans are being laid to expand the war into Iran and possibly Syria.
The only restraining force will be the world’s rejection of the dollar.
It’s bound to come and create conditions worse than 1979–1980, which required 21% interest rates to correct.
But everything possible will be done to protect the dollar in the meantime. We have a shared interest with those who hold our dollars to keep the whole charade going.
Greenspan, in his first speech after leaving the Fed, said that gold prices were up because of concern about terrorism, and not because of monetary concerns or because he created too many dollars during his tenure. Gold has to be discredited and the dollar propped up. Even when the dollar comes under serious attack by market forces, the central banks and the IMF surely will do everything conceivable to soak up the dollars in hope of restoring stability. Eventually they will fail.
Most importantly, the dollar/oil relationship has to be maintained to keep the dollar as a preeminent currency. Any attack on this relationship will be forcefully challenged – as it already has been. (This is what Iran is all about not nukes.)
In November 2000 Saddam Hussein demanded Euros for his oil. His arrogance was a threat to the dollar; his lack of any military might was never a threat. At the first cabinet meeting with the new administration in 2001, as reported by Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill, the major topic was how we would get rid of Saddam Hussein – though there was no evidence whatsoever he posed a threat to us. This deep concern for Saddam Hussein surprised and shocked O’Neill.
It now is common knowledge that the immediate reaction of the administration after 9/11 revolved around how they could connect Saddam Hussein to the attacks, to justify an invasion and overthrow of his government. Even with no evidence of any connection to 9/11, or evidence of weapons of mass destruction, public and congressional support was generated through distortions and flat out misrepresentation of the facts to justify overthrowing Saddam Hussein.
There was no public talk of removing Saddam Hussein because of his attack on the integrity of the dollar as a reserve currency by selling oil in Euros. Many believe this was the real reason for our obsession with Iraq. I doubt it was the only reason, but it may well have played a significant role in our motivation to wage war. Within a very short period after the military victory, all Iraqi oil sales were carried out in dollars. The Euro was abandoned.
In 2001, Venezuela’s ambassador to Russia spoke of Venezuela switching to the Euro for all their oil sales. Within a year there was a coup attempt against Chavez, reportedly with assistance from our CIA.
After these attempts to nudge the Euro toward replacing the dollar as the world’s reserve currency were met with resistance, the sharp fall of the dollar against the Euro was reversed. These events may well have played a significant role in maintaining dollar dominance.
It’s become clear the U.S. administration was sympathetic to those who plotted the overthrow of Chavez, and was embarrassed by its failure. The fact that Chavez was democratically elected had little influence on which side we supported.
Now, a new attempt is being made against the petrodollar system. Iran, another member of the “axis of evil,” has announced her plans to initiate an oil bourse in March of this year. Guess what, the oil sales will be priced Euros, not dollars.
Most Americans forget how our policies have systematically and needlessly antagonized the Iranians over the years. In 1953 the CIA helped overthrow a democratically elected president, Mohammed Mossadeqh, and install the authoritarian Shah, who was friendly to the U.S.
The Iranians were still fuming over this when the hostages were seized in 1979. Our alliance with Saddam Hussein in his invasion of Iran in the early 1980s did not help matters, and obviously did not do much for our relationship with Saddam Hussein.
The administration announcement in 2001 that Iran was part of the axis of evil didn’t do much to improve the diplomatic relationship between our two countries. Recent threats over nuclear power, while ignoring the fact that they are surrounded by countries with nuclear weapons, doesn’t seem to register with those who continue to provoke Iran.
With what most Muslims perceive as our war against Islam, and this recent history, there’s little wonder why Iran might choose to harm America by undermining the dollar. Iran, like Iraq, has zero capability to attack us. But that didn’t stop us from turning Saddam Hussein into a modern day Hitler ready to take over the world. Now Iran, especially since she’s made plans for pricing oil in Euros, has been on the receiving end of a propaganda war not unlike that waged against Iraq before our invasion.
It’s not likely that maintaining dollar supremacy was the only motivating factor for the war against Iraq, nor for agitating against Iran. Though the real reasons for going to war are complex, we now know the reasons given before the war started, like the presence of weapons of mass destruction and Saddam Hussein’s connection to 9/11, were false.
The dollar’s importance is obvious, but this does not diminish the influence of the distinct plans laid out years ago by the neo-conservatives to remake the Middle East. Israel’s influence, as well as that of the Christian Zionists, likewise played a role in prosecuting this war. Protecting “our” oil supplies has influenced our Middle East policy for decades.
But the truth is that paying the bills for this aggressive intervention is impossible the old-fashioned way, with more taxes, more savings, and more production by the American people. Much of the expense of the Persian Gulf War in 1991 was shouldered by many of our willing allies. That’s not so today. Now, more than ever, the dollar hegemony – it’s dominance as the world reserve currency – is required to finance our huge war expenditures. This $2 trillion never-ending war must be paid for, one way or another. Dollar hegemony provides the vehicle to do just that.
For the most part the true victims aren’t aware of how they pay the bills. The license to create money out of thin air allows the bills to be paid through price inflation. American citizens, as well as average citizens of Japan, China, and other countries suffer from price inflation, which represents the “tax” that pays the bills for our military adventures. That is, until the fraud is discovered, and the foreign producers decide not to take dollars nor hold them very long in payment for their goods.
Everything possible is done to prevent the fraud of the monetary system from being exposed to the masses who suffer from it. If oil markets replace dollars with Euros, it would in time curtail our ability to continue to print, without restraint, the world’s reserve currency.
It is an unbelievable benefit to us to import valuable goods and export depreciating dollars. The exporting countries have become addicted to our purchases for their economic growth. This dependency makes them allies in continuing the fraud, and their participation keeps the dollar’s value artificially high. If this system were workable long term, American citizens would never have to work again. We too could enjoy “bread and circuses” just as the Romans did, but their gold finally ran out and the inability of Rome to continue to plunder conquered nations brought an end to her empire.
The same thing will happen to us if we don’t change our ways. Though we don’t occupy foreign countries to directly plunder, we nevertheless have spread our troops across 130 nations of the world. Our intense effort to spread our power in the oil-rich Middle East is not a coincidence.
But unlike the old days, we don’t declare direct ownership of the natural resources – we just insist that we can buy what we want and pay for it with our paper money. Any country that challenges our authority does so at great risk.
Once again Congress has bought into the war propaganda against Iran, just as it did against Iraq. Arguments are now made for attacking Iran economically, and militarily if necessary. These arguments are all based on the same false reasons given for the ill-fated and costly occupation of Iraq.
Our whole economic system depends on continuing the current monetary arrangement, which means recycling the dollar is crucial. Currently, we borrow over $700 billion every year from our gracious benefactors, who work hard and take our paper for their goods. Then we borrow all the money we need to secure the empire (DOD budget $450 billion) plus more. The military might we enjoy becomes the “backing” of our currency.
There are no other countries that can challenge our military superiority, (not true) and therefore they have little choice but to accept the dollars we declare are today’s “gold.” This is why countries that challenge the system – like Iraq, Iran and Venezuela – become targets of our plans for regime change.
Ironically, dollar superiority depends on our strong military, and our strong military depends on the dollar. As long as foreign recipients take our dollars for real goods and are willing to finance our extravagant consumption and militarism, the status quo will continue regardless of how huge our foreign debt and current account deficit become.
But real threats come from our political adversaries who are incapable of confronting us militarily, yet are not bashful about confronting us economically. That’s why we see the new challenge from Iran being taken so seriously. The urgent arguments about Iran posing a military threat to the security of the United States are no more plausible than the false charges levied against Iraq. Yet there is no effort to resist this march to confrontation by those who grandstand for political reasons against the Iraq war.
It seems that the people and Congress are easily persuaded by the jingoism of the preemptive war promoters. It’s only after the cost in human life and dollars are tallied up that the people object to unwise militarism.
The strange thing is that the failure in Iraq is now apparent to a large majority of American people, yet they and Congress are acquiescing to the call for a needless and dangerous confrontation with Iran.
But then again, our failure to find Osama bin Laden and destroy his network did not dissuade us from taking on the Iraqis in a war totally unrelated to 9/11.
Concern for pricing oil only in dollars helps explain our willingness to drop everything and teach Saddam Hussein a lesson for his defiance in demanding Euros for oil.
And once again there’s this urgent call for sanctions and threats of force against Iran at the precise time Iran is opening a new oil exchange with all transactions in Euros.
Using force to compel people to accept money without real value can only work in the short run. It ultimately leads to economic dislocation, both domestic and international, and always ends with a price to be paid.
The economic law that honest exchange demands only things of real value as currency cannot be repealed. The chaos that one day will ensue from our 35-year experiment with worldwide fiat money will require a return to money of real value. We will know that day is approaching when oil-producing countries demand gold, or its equivalent, for their oil rather than dollars or Euros. The sooner the better.


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Subject: The real reason behind 911

"The Love of Money is the Root of all Evil." A faulty fiat money
system enacted by "The Money Changers" aka international banksters
will be saved at all costs including wars, death, mayhem and
destruction. All fiat currencies are about to self destruct. Get out
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Watch Ron Paul's speech on video.

Before the US House of Representatives, February 15, 2006

A hundred years ago it was called "dollar diplomacy." After World War
II, and especially after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989, that
policy evolved into "dollar hegemony." But after all these many years
of great success, our dollar dominance is coming to an end.

It has been said, rightly, that he who holds the gold makes the rules.
In earlier times it was readily accepted that fair and honest trade
required an exchange for something of real value.

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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:33:19 -0600
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Subject: Bush is Unpopular Across the Entire Country, Particularly in Ohio

Bush is Unpopular Across the Entire Country, Particularly in Ohio

Bush is unpopular across the entire country

One of the most under-discussed and under-appreciated political facts is the depth and intensity of George Bush's unpopularity in this country. It isn't just that his approval ratings have fallen into the 30's again, although that is significant. More significant still is the fact that Americans disapprove of his performance in every region in the country, and in almost every state.

This 50-state polling chart compiled by USA Survey is quite telling. Bush's approval rating is above 50% in only 6 states in the entire country, and Texas is not one of them. In 40 out of 50 states -- 80% of the country -- more people disapprove of Bush than approve of him.

Most revealing is Bush's intense and pervasive unpopularity in Ohio, the state which swung the election in his favor. People in Ohio disapprove of Bush's performance by an amazingly lopsided margin of 37-60%. Apparently, they're not happy that they have no jobs, their kids have no health insurance, their neighbors have been stuck and are being killed in an increasingly unpopular, endless and senseless war in Iraq, and the President is surrounded by cronyism and corruption and thinks he has the power to break the law. But at least gay couples can't get married, so that's good.

While large numbers of Ohioans became convinced in 2004 that the all-consuming, paramount gay marriage issue compensated for all of the corruption and ineptitude of the Administration, it looks like they -- along with the rest of the country -- have changed their minds and have realized that this Presidency is a disaster for our country in every way that matters.

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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:05:58 -0600
From: Bugs <brawny@twlakes.net>
Subject: Bush is Unpopular Across the Entire Country, Particularly in Ohio

Bush is Unpopular Across the Entire Country, Particularly in Ohio

Bush is unpopular across the entire country

One of the most under-discussed and under-appreciated political facts is the depth and intensity of George Bush's unpopularity in this country. It isn't just that his approval ratings have fallen into the 30's again, although that is significant. More significant still is the fact that Americans disapprove of his performance in every region in the country, and in almost every state.

This 50-state polling chart compiled by USA Survey is quite telling. Bush's approval rating is above 50% in only 6 states in the entire country, and Texas is not one of them. In 40 out of 50 states -- 80% of the country -- more people disapprove of Bush than approve of him.

Most revealing is Bush's intense and pervasive unpopularity in Ohio, the state which swung the election in his favor. People in Ohio disapprove of Bush's performance by an amazingly lopsided margin of 37-60%. Apparently, they're not happy that they have no jobs, their kids have no health insurance, their neighbors have been stuck and are being killed in an increasingly unpopular, endless and senseless war in Iraq, and the President is surrounded by cronyism and corruption and thinks he has the power to break the law. But at least gay couples can't get married, so that's good.

While large numbers of Ohioans became convinced in 2004 that the all-consuming, paramount gay marriage issue compensated for all of the corruption and ineptitude of the Administration, it looks like they -- along with the rest of the country -- have changed their minds and have realized that this Presidency is a disaster for our country in every way that matters.

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