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Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Please critique this post...
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
2. Re: Please critique this post...
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
3. More thoughts on 911Scholars at Noory
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
4. re: Morgan Reynolds on George Noory
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
5. Trolls congeal at gather.com to support "Meryl"
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
6. 9/11 Revisited on youtube
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
7. Blogger made MSM: Rumsfeld/Cambone's post 9/11 memo
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
8. Re: Blogger made MSM: Rumsfeld/Cambone's post 9/11 memo
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
9. MN4 = WW4?
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
10. Re: MN4 = WW4?
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
11. Re: Trolls congeal at gather.com to support "Meryl"
From: "Bill Giltner" <bill.giltner@gmail.com>
12. Re: SV: [Fwd: Re: Controlled Demolition Limited Hangout?]
From: rcu@duke.edu
13. Re: SV: [Fwd: Re: Controlled Demolition Limited Hangout?]
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
14. First fragmental analysis splitscreen FOX/CNN live 9/11 footage
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
15. Free Market news with VV'9/11 mirror and comments
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:55:02 -0600
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
Subject: Re: Please critique this post...
Excellent!!
You already attracted your first troll.
it's quite amazing how trolls can find anything anywhere on the internet
near instantly.
it''s also quite amazing how they all know somebody who "saw the plane."
Bill Giltner wrote:
> Be nice.
> The post is titled: The Hijackers were critical to pulling off 9/11.....
> http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976732379
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:00:18 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: Re: Please critique this post...
> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Please critique this post...
> Datum: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:55:02 -0600
>
LOL, i love the "tags" of this troll:
http://www.gather.com/my.jsp?memberId=16234
Member since Dec 10, 2005 | Last signed in Feb 24, 2006
Recent Tags: schizophrenia, health, psychology, mystics, mental illness
>>>>
Excellent!!
You already attracted your first troll.
it's quite amazing how trolls can find anything anywhere on the internet
near instantly.
it''s also quite amazing how they all know somebody who "saw the plane."
Bill Giltner wrote:
> Be nice.
> The post is titled: The Hijackers were critical to pulling off 9/11.....
> http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976732379
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:19:41 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: More thoughts on 911Scholars at Noory
...just finished finally listening to CoasttoCoast
I have no final opinion on the Noory show yet.
Some thoughts:
1)
Generally the 9/11 scholars did a good job to corner Noory,
who wasn't convincing at all, when he tried to turn around
the wheels as usual.
2)
The political message was slightly increased
3)
Personal disappointment here, that Reynolds didn't mention
the wtc-aircraft research yet and seemed to me careful to go there.
See also quotes below
4)
Only a little bit nonsense compared to other interviews of Jim Fetzer.
The few low lights, compared with 2 hours strong emotional interview
(without commercials), in the minority:
-Fetzer supports A3 Sky Warrior drone theory at Pentagon
-Some distractions on global warming again..
5)
Morgan was generally okay. Some highlights:
Morgan Reynolds mentions that AA77 wasn't in BTS-database.
No 757 at Shanksville.
commercial aircraft possible in the area, but debris seems to be somewhere
else...
There isn't "any straight flight manifest on any of these 4 flights..."
Then Noory still tried to educate him, that he still believes
in some "idiots ..they found as hijackers..."
Believes also, that Al-Quaeda does exist.
Morgan and the other scholars did a good job to correct Noory.
Then Morgan Reynolds on WTC and the possible real fate of the passenger :
(paraphrased) "...There are various ideas, that people had been gassed...
or planes being remote controlled or substitute with drones..."
[this is a]contagious region of 9/11 research..."
then corrected by Jim Fetzer:
"...flight path programmed into the planes..."
So this was the weakest act of the show. The idea of remote controlled
wtc-aircrafts
appeared as the final clue of the Scholars....
More notes:
Fetzer said, an ukrainian editor and BBC was in contact with him.
Asked by Noory, on possible criticism against the group, Fetzer didn't
mention
my internal analysis of this group, but apparently just refered on
every 100 positive responses there are "3 non-believers"
Then WING TV called in, apparently allowed and scheduled to do so...
Basically applauding the show so far and the 9/11 Scholars.
Until that point i would also give them 7 from 10 thumbs up points,
but it had some bad taste in it, though minimal.
Then some call-ins, who got educated on PNAC.
An idiot, who asked for Barbara Olsen, then educated on physics by Fetzer.
Also, well done, having the callers under control.
Weak: When confronted with Clinton, Fetzer only refers to Bush
Administration regarding 9/11. The usual leftgatekeeping mistake, but
whatever....
Then a caller, pushing the incompetence crap of this government.
I didn't listen carefully to all of fetzer responses, but another weak low
light
was the promotion for the book "House of saud, house of lies" by limited
hangouter Unger (WTF??!).
Then this BS about missing paper trails for e-voting machines,
where i really get upset, because it doesn't come to the problem at all.
Also, BS influence from Bev Harris, who totally ignored the military
background
of all other e-voting producers, including their ties with Accenture and
Lockheed.
Bev, a former republican was a puppet, to distract from investigative
research on e-voting, like from Lynn Landes. She also pushed too many red
herrings and this kind of crap still manipulates many so called e-voting
activists...
Some callers have been kinda informed and supported the idea of controlled
demolition, including "removing bomb-sniffing dogs" prior 9/11...
Then some discussion about Bent Scowcroft, who was on some Bush advisory
boards.
Noory still tried to re-promote Bin Laden, but was corrected by Fetzer, that
he was just a "boogieman". Not sure, if Fetzer won this argument, it was a
bit lame for me from his side.
Noory said, he couldn't agree with everything what the scholars said but
pointed out,
that there are many "anomalies"...
Noory seems to be still an idiot.
He also had the final thought, that he believes that Al-Quaeda exists, then
in informed
by Fetzer about the CIA-taliban connection...
Also, one more dumb caller at the end, that 9/11 was a "surprise attack" and
Noory supported the idea, that Bush is incompetent.
This caller also bashing Clinton and his intelligence apparatus and the so
called
"non partisan" view of 911scholars was not very convincing at that point...
Again, the general PR of the 911Scholars on standard '9/11 truthling stuff'
plus science, appeared to me okay, especially against dickhead Noory,
who wasn't strong enough at all and less counterproductive as usual.
What other missing stuff depends i am still not sure...
There was no real 'screw-up", but some low-lights, but not too many
to turn it against this group. Improval is from need, especially reg. "9/11
VR".
I hope, that Reynolds will release his new article pretty soon (i read a
fascinating draft), to figure out and prove, if he really is much more
progressive and credible than the other scholars...
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 02:28:52 -0000
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
Subject: re: Morgan Reynolds on George Noory
"We can convict them in a court of law. Our evidence is strong
enough." Reynolds also added that, "Justice is our primary goal. Truth
is a means to arrive there."
- Morgan Reynolds (2/23/06)
".... and then we can promptly execute them, using due process under
the Rule of Law."
- L. Ertell
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 02:56:47 -0000
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
Subject: Trolls congeal at gather.com to support "Meryl"
LOL !!!!!
Look at the little "community" that has congealed around "Meryl" !
Look at the dates of their postings !!!!
http://meryl.gather.com/
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:24:11 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: 9/11 Revisited on youtube
...i think, we posted this link here before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psP_9RE0V2I
(Collection clip of explosion reports at WTC)
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 05:36:07 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: Blogger made MSM: Rumsfeld/Cambone's post 9/11 memo
...picked up by more MSM:
Rumsfeld wanted to hit Iraq after 9/11
Hindu, India - 8 hours ago
http://www.hindu.com/2006/02/25/stories/2006022507121400.htm
Saturday, Feb 25, 2006
Washington: Hours after a commercial plane struck the Pentagon on September
11, 2001, U.S. Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was issuing rapid orders to
his aides to look for evidence of Iraqi involvement, according to notes
taken by one of them.
``Hard to get good case. Need to move swiftly,'' the notes say. ``Near term
target needs - go massive - sweep it all up, things related and not.''
The handwritten notes, with some parts blanked out, were declassified this
month in response to a request by a law student and blogger, Thad Anderson,
under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act. Mr. Anderson has posted them on
his blog at outragedmoderates.org ...
FREIGEGEBENES PENTAGON- MEMO:
Wie Rumsfeld Saddam ins Visier nahm
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,403116,00.html
24. Februar
2006
http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=265157&area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__international_news/
Blogger bares Rumsfeld's post-9/11 orders
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1716840,00.html
Blogger bares Rumsfeld's post 9/11 orders
Julian Borger in Washington
Friday February 24, 2006
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:42:52 -0600
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
Subject: Re: Blogger made MSM: Rumsfeld/Cambone's post 9/11 memo
Yeah, but it leads with planehugging.
Nico Haupt wrote:
> ...picked up by more MSM:
>
> Rumsfeld wanted to hit Iraq after 9/11
> Hindu, India - 8 hours ago
> http://www.hindu.com/2006/02/25/stories/2006022507121400.htm
> Saturday, Feb 25, 2006
>
> Washington: Hours after a commercial plane struck the Pentagon on September
> 11, 2001, U.S. Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was issuing rapid orders to
> his aides to look for evidence of Iraqi involvement, according to notes
> taken by one of them.
>
> ``Hard to get good case. Need to move swiftly,'' the notes say. ``Near term
> target needs - go massive - sweep it all up, things related and not.''
>
> The handwritten notes, with some parts blanked out, were declassified this
> month in response to a request by a law student and blogger, Thad Anderson,
> under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act. Mr. Anderson has posted them on
> his blog at outragedmoderates.org ...
>
>
> FREIGEGEBENES PENTAGON- MEMO:
> Wie Rumsfeld Saddam ins Visier nahm
> http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,403116,00.html
> 24. Februar
> 2006
>
>
> http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=265157&area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__international_news/
> Blogger bares Rumsfeld's post-9/11 orders
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1716840,00.html
> Blogger bares Rumsfeld's post 9/11 orders
> Julian Borger in Washington
> Friday February 24, 2006
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:09:40 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: MN4 = WW4?
...i mentioned "MN4" already in our wargame- and terror drill watch at
team8plus.org as also here:
"Terror Broker" Timeline October 2005 -March 2006
http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?17.2461
MN4 started this week and will take one month, until March 27,
which will be 1 week after the official introduction of the Iran Oil Bourse
(IOB), 10 days after Jeb Bush is expecting the first bird flu case in U.S.,
and 17 days after the hypothetical expiration of patriot act.
In between 03/11, which is a friday and perfect day for a false flag in
NYC's subway/port authority at penn station, in case they're wanna do the
next 'big thing'. But that's just a random speculation.
I tried to get some daily updates on "MN4", but there is just general
information. Maybe there will be more at defenselink.mil ...
http://www.edefenseonline.com/default.asp?func=article&aref=02_16_2006_OM_01
"...Multinational Experiment 4 (MNE4), to run Feb. 20-March 27, will
practice responding to various mock scenarios in that country, including
coordination of military activities, training of local police,
counter-narcotics operations, and more..."
http://www.jfcom.mil/about/experiments/mne4.htm
The MNE4 participants -- Australia, Canada, Finland, France, Germany,
Sweden, the United Kingdom, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)
and the United States
http://www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storyarchive/2006/no021306.htm
Multinational Experiment 4, which runs Feb. 27 to March 17, will involve
800 people from eight countries and NATO, and will use the context of
Afghanistan to practice civil-military coalition processes, said Army Lt.
Gen. John R. Wood, deputy commander of U.S. Joint Forces Command...
...Multinational Experiment 4 will use more than 268 hypothetical events
focused on asymmetric threats, stability operations and reconstruction...
...Multinational Experiment 4 will use two parallel headquarters, Wood said.
One will be staffed by NATO at a single location in Turkey, and the other
will be spread around nine or 10 sites on a distributed network...
...The multinational experiment series was started in 2001, before the
terrorist attacks of Sept. 11...
http://www.jfcom.mil/about/experiments/mne4.htm
...What will follow after MNE-4?
MNE-5 will be the next in the series of multinational experiments. It will
build on MNE-4 following a thorough assessment of the experiment’s results.
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:44:13 -0600
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
Subject: Re: MN4 = WW4?
I know this is just farking Flocco, and it's Grand Central instead of
Penn, but it would go along with yuor scenario pretty much.
They might plant actual information with Flocco now that he's so
discredited noone would even trust him to tell time.
http://tomflocco.com/fs/GrandCentralStation.htm
Nico Haupt wrote:
> ...i mentioned "MN4" already in our wargame- and terror drill watch at
> team8plus.org as also here:
>
> "Terror Broker" Timeline October 2005 -March 2006
> http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?17.2461
>
> MN4 started this week and will take one month, until March 27,
> which will be 1 week after the official introduction of the Iran Oil Bourse
> (IOB), 10 days after Jeb Bush is expecting the first bird flu case in U.S.,
> and 17 days after the hypothetical expiration of patriot act.
>
> In between 03/11, which is a friday and perfect day for a false flag in
> NYC's subway/port authority at penn station, in case they're wanna do the
> next 'big thing'. But that's just a random speculation.
>
>
> I tried to get some daily updates on "MN4", but there is just general
> information. Maybe there will be more at defenselink.mil ...
>
>
> http://www.edefenseonline.com/default.asp?func=article&aref=02_16_2006_OM_01
> "...Multinational Experiment 4 (MNE4), to run Feb. 20-March 27, will
> practice responding to various mock scenarios in that country, including
> coordination of military activities, training of local police,
> counter-narcotics operations, and more..."
>
>
> http://www.jfcom.mil/about/experiments/mne4.htm
> The MNE4 participants -- Australia, Canada, Finland, France, Germany,
> Sweden, the United Kingdom, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)
> and the United States
>
> http://www.jfcom.mil/newslink/storyarchive/2006/no021306.htm
> Multinational Experiment 4, which runs Feb. 27 to March 17, will involve
> 800 people from eight countries and NATO, and will use the context of
> Afghanistan to practice civil-military coalition processes, said Army Lt.
> Gen. John R. Wood, deputy commander of U.S. Joint Forces Command...
>
> ...Multinational Experiment 4 will use more than 268 hypothetical events
> focused on asymmetric threats, stability operations and reconstruction...
>
> ...Multinational Experiment 4 will use two parallel headquarters, Wood said.
> One will be staffed by NATO at a single location in Turkey, and the other
> will be spread around nine or 10 sites on a distributed network...
>
> ...The multinational experiment series was started in 2001, before the
> terrorist attacks of Sept. 11...
>
> http://www.jfcom.mil/about/experiments/mne4.htm
> ...What will follow after MNE-4?
> MNE-5 will be the next in the series of multinational experiments. It will
> build on MNE-4 following a thorough assessment of the experiment’s results.
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:27:26 -0000
From: "Bill Giltner" <bill.giltner@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Trolls congeal at gather.com to support "Meryl"
Lynn,
"congealed"... wow, is that what trolls do?
Thanks so much for your help, and for Rosalee's, and to any body else
who can chip in.
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn Ertell"
<lynnertell@...> wrote:
>
>
> LOL !!!!!
> Look at the little "community" that has congealed around "Meryl" !
> Look at the dates of their postings !!!!
>
>
> http://meryl.gather.com/
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:21:25 -0500 (EST)
From: rcu@duke.edu
Subject: Re: SV: [Fwd: Re: Controlled Demolition Limited Hangout?]
to the extent this touched on aaron brown contradicting his own timeline
see
http://911foreknowledge.com/tony/clocks.htm
for a similar reference
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Rosalee Grable wrote:
> His angle is the one with the gorgeous view of the Unearthly Glow and
> the Spire turning to dust with the debris being sucked back toward the
> building.
> It is the most telling footage of all.
> http://thewebfairy.com/911/glow
> http://google.com/search?q=plaguepuppy+spire
>
> perpetualynquisitive wrote:
> > Nico, I have been going back over all the CNN coverage with Brown, every
> > video with him is from that exact same angle.
> >
> > Note the 'impact' of the second hit is filmed at the same angle as his
> > entire broadcast, as seen in the clip that I linked to, ergo same
> > camera, it is just a zoom in that excludes him from our view.
> >
> > The flash of light shows that he is obviously not outside on a roof, he
> > is inside a studio standing in front a screen.
> >
> > I have seen the same effect many times, as a friend of my mine's sons
> > have a projector T.V. in their garage so that they can play Xbox games
> > with 6 foot high characters.
> >
> > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> >>> Von: "perpetualynquisitive" perpetualynquisitive@...
> >>> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Betreff: SV: [Fwd: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Controlled Demolition
> >>>
> > Limited
> >
> >>> Hangout?]
> >>> Datum: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:09:34 -0000
> >>>
> >> Perp,
> >>
> >> but there is a transcript by himself where he's contradicting his own
> >> timeline.
> >>
> >> Also this old CNN building was on 34th street, in a very far distance.
> >> Please advise, if i confused the building.
> >> I checked the building a while ago. It's possible, that he filmed from
> >>
> > the
> >
> >> roof, but his office was some floors away from the roof.
> >>
> >> Also, it's VERY loud at 34st, much much traffic. I doubt that you hear
> >> anthing and look out the window same time.
> >> Meanwhile btw- if we both talk about same building (or it was a
> >>
> > different
> >
> >> CNN reporter, not sure now), CNN moved out of this building.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Bingo, You win a virtual cigar.
> >>>
> >>> He was standing in front of a screen, yet CNN claims that he was
> >>> covering the events from the roof of a building in New York.
> >>>
> >>> A 'Star' is Born:
> >>>
> >>> Sept. 11, 2001, was Brown's first day as news anchor for CNN (he had
> >>> been with the network for only a year), and less than an hour after
> >>>
> > the
> >
> >>> first terrorist attack, he began covering the unparalleled event
> >>>
> > from a
> >
> >>> rooftop in New York City. His steadfast presence on that momentous
> >>>
> > day,
> >
> >>> and his continued coverage of the aftermath of the terrorist
> >>>
> > attacks,
> >
> >>> including reports from "ground zero," helped to calm and inform
> >>>
> > stunned
> >
> >>> viewers worldwide.
> >>>
> >>> Article is here
> >>> <http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/04/9.9.04/Aaron_Brown.html>
> >>>
> >>> The flash of light would only have the effect seen in that clip if
> >>>
> > it
> >
> >>> were filmed indoors. I it was filmed outside in the bright sunlight,
> >>>
> > it
> >
> >>> would NOT interfere with the 'background'.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable webfairy@
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> To me it doesn't necessarily show anything more omnious than Mr.
> >>>> Newsbunny was standing in front of a screen that doesn't glare.
> >>>> What are you catching that I don't?
> >>>>
> >>>> perpetualynquisitive wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Rosalee, you're on the right track. The flash of light is the
> >>>>>
> > cause
> >
> >>> of
> >>>
> >>>>> the anomaly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is the effect that the flash has on the entire scene that
> >>>>>
> > gives
> >
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>>> game away.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable
> >>>>>
> > webfairy@
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I used to think it was just an artifact of the capture.
> >>>>>> I see on close look that the scene's coloration takes on it's
> >>>>>>
> >>> normal
> >>>
> >>>>>> coloration before the clip ends.
> >>>>>> I can see that the light shows on the newsbunny's face and suit
> >>>>>>
> >>> too,
> >>>
> >>>>> so
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> it seems to me they turned on a wrong light and flipped it back
> >>>>>>
> >>> off.
> >>>
> >>>>>> If there is something more important I am missing, please tell
> >>>>>>
> > me.
> >
> >>>>>> perpetualynquisitive wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No takers on even guessing what the 3 frame anomaly is in the
> >>>>>>>
> > clip
> >
> >>>>>>> that I linked to earlier? The last 3 frames at the 28 second
> >>>>>>>
> > mark
> >
> >>>>> show
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> something very telling, if you can recogize what it is.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I can even replicate this anomaly with minimal effort.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Clip is available here
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> > <http://thewebfairy.com/wget/www.niftythings.org/usattack/videos/cnn-act> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> ual-crash.avi>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com,
> >>>>>>>
> > "perpetualynquisitive"
> >
> >>>>>>> perpetualynquisitive@ wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **Edit
> >>>>>>>> Possible projection-related problems?
> >>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>> Sorry wasn't fully paying attention when I posted, the above
> >>>>>>>>
> > is
> >
> >>>>> what I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> meant.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'll bet most of the people on this board have seen that same
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> anomaly
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> in the real world.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com,
> >>>>>>>>
> > "perpetualynquisitive"
> >
> >>>>>>>> perpetualynquisitive@ wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You have the same video clip on your site here
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> > <http://thewebfairy.com/wget/www.niftythings.org/usattack/videos/cnn-act> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ual-crash.avi> . Check out the 3 frame anomaly at the end of
> >>>>>>>>>
> > the
> >
> >>>>> 28
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> second mark.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Possible projector problems?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This may end up as a double post, major system lock-up.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>> Government procurement
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> >>> > >>>
> > t+procurement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Go> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> > vernment+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> =S_3-2zVK9QQjTwxHvO91yw>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Government leasing
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Government+leasing&w1=Government+pr> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> > ocurement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Govern> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> > ment+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig=ZAu> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> P_XFQBkNiVw-hPWWJ-Q>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Government grants for women
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Government+grants+for+women&w1=Gove> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> > rnment+procurement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> > w4=Government+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> &.sig=R7KVvqXEVqN0Ct9WGPhKwg>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Government lease
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Government+lease&w1=Government+proc> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> > urement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Governme> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> > nt+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig=FM8lk> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> JddvatAkQNo00D_Cw>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Government contract
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Government+contract&w1=Government+p> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> > rocurement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Gover> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> > nment+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig=fT> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> rsbvxC-m39UjtOdMcT-Q>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Government money
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>> > >>>
> > urement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Governme> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> > nt+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig=HB73L> > > >
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:54:59 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: Re: SV: [Fwd: Re: Controlled Demolition Limited Hangout?]
> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: rcu@duke.edu
> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: SV: [Fwd: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Controlled Demolition
> Limited Hangout?]
> Datum: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:21:25 -0500 (EST)
>
one of my alltime favourite Ubinger articles :)
don't forget the penta clocks :)
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4120/pentaclock6ay.jpg
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6724/pentaclock25mm.jpg
>>>>>to the extent this touched on aaron brown contradicting his own
timeline
see
http://911foreknowledge.com/tony/clocks.htm
for a similar reference
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Rosalee Grable wrote:
> His angle is the one with the gorgeous view of the Unearthly Glow and
> the Spire turning to dust with the debris being sucked back toward the
> building.
> It is the most telling footage of all.
> http://thewebfairy.com/911/glow
> http://google.com/search?q=plaguepuppy+spire
>
> perpetualynquisitive wrote:
> > Nico, I have been going back over all the CNN coverage with Brown, every
> > video with him is from that exact same angle.
> >
> > Note the 'impact' of the second hit is filmed at the same angle as his
> > entire broadcast, as seen in the clip that I linked to, ergo same
> > camera, it is just a zoom in that excludes him from our view.
> >
> > The flash of light shows that he is obviously not outside on a roof, he
> > is inside a studio standing in front a screen.
> >
> > I have seen the same effect many times, as a friend of my mine's sons
> > have a projector T.V. in their garage so that they can play Xbox games
> > with 6 foot high characters.
> >
> > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> >>> Von: "perpetualynquisitive" perpetualynquisitive@...
> >>> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Betreff: SV: [Fwd: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Controlled Demolition
> >>>
> > Limited
> >
> >>> Hangout?]
> >>> Datum: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:09:34 -0000
> >>>
> >> Perp,
> >>
> >> but there is a transcript by himself where he's contradicting his own
> >> timeline.
> >>
> >> Also this old CNN building was on 34th street, in a very far distance.
> >> Please advise, if i confused the building.
> >> I checked the building a while ago. It's possible, that he filmed from
> >>
> > the
> >
> >> roof, but his office was some floors away from the roof.
> >>
> >> Also, it's VERY loud at 34st, much much traffic. I doubt that you hear
> >> anthing and look out the window same time.
> >> Meanwhile btw- if we both talk about same building (or it was a
> >>
> > different
> >
> >> CNN reporter, not sure now), CNN moved out of this building.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Bingo, You win a virtual cigar.
> >>>
> >>> He was standing in front of a screen, yet CNN claims that he was
> >>> covering the events from the roof of a building in New York.
> >>>
> >>> A 'Star' is Born:
> >>>
> >>> Sept. 11, 2001, was Brown's first day as news anchor for CNN (he had
> >>> been with the network for only a year), and less than an hour after
> >>>
> > the
> >
> >>> first terrorist attack, he began covering the unparalleled event
> >>>
> > from a
> >
> >>> rooftop in New York City. His steadfast presence on that momentous
> >>>
> > day,
> >
> >>> and his continued coverage of the aftermath of the terrorist
> >>>
> > attacks,
> >
> >>> including reports from "ground zero," helped to calm and inform
> >>>
> > stunned
> >
> >>> viewers worldwide.
> >>>
> >>> Article is here
> >>> <http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/04/9.9.04/Aaron_Brown.html>
> >>>
> >>> The flash of light would only have the effect seen in that clip if
> >>>
> > it
> >
> >>> were filmed indoors. I it was filmed outside in the bright sunlight,
> >>>
> > it
> >
> >>> would NOT interfere with the 'background'.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable webfairy@
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> To me it doesn't necessarily show anything more omnious than Mr.
> >>>> Newsbunny was standing in front of a screen that doesn't glare.
> >>>> What are you catching that I don't?
> >>>>
> >>>> perpetualynquisitive wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Rosalee, you're on the right track. The flash of light is the
> >>>>>
> > cause
> >
> >>> of
> >>>
> >>>>> the anomaly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is the effect that the flash has on the entire scene that
> >>>>>
> > gives
> >
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>>>> game away.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable
> >>>>>
> > webfairy@
> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I used to think it was just an artifact of the capture.
> >>>>>> I see on close look that the scene's coloration takes on it's
> >>>>>>
> >>> normal
> >>>
> >>>>>> coloration before the clip ends.
> >>>>>> I can see that the light shows on the newsbunny's face and suit
> >>>>>>
> >>> too,
> >>>
> >>>>> so
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> it seems to me they turned on a wrong light and flipped it back
> >>>>>>
> >>> off.
> >>>
> >>>>>> If there is something more important I am missing, please tell
> >>>>>>
> > me.
> >
> >>>>>> perpetualynquisitive wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No takers on even guessing what the 3 frame anomaly is in the
> >>>>>>>
> > clip
> >
> >>>>>>> that I linked to earlier? The last 3 frames at the 28 second
> >>>>>>>
> > mark
> >
> >>>>> show
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> something very telling, if you can recogize what it is.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I can even replicate this anomaly with minimal effort.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Clip is available here
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
<http://thewebfairy.com/wget/www.niftythings.org/usattack/videos/cnn-act> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> ual-crash.avi>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com,
> >>>>>>>
> > "perpetualynquisitive"
> >
> >>>>>>> perpetualynquisitive@ wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **Edit
> >>>>>>>> Possible projection-related problems?
> >>>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>>> Sorry wasn't fully paying attention when I posted, the above
> >>>>>>>>
> > is
> >
> >>>>> what I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> meant.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'll bet most of the people on this board have seen that same
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> anomaly
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> in the real world.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com,
> >>>>>>>>
> > "perpetualynquisitive"
> >
> >>>>>>>> perpetualynquisitive@ wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You have the same video clip on your site here
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >
<http://thewebfairy.com/wget/www.niftythings.org/usattack/videos/cnn-act> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ual-crash.avi> . Check out the 3 frame anomaly at the end of
> >>>>>>>>>
> > the
> >
> >>>>> 28
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> second mark.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Possible projector problems?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This may end up as a double post, major system lock-up.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>> > >>>
> >
t+procurement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Go> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >
vernment+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> =S_3-2zVK9QQjTwxHvO91yw>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Government leasing
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Government+leasing&w1=Government+pr> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >
ocurement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Govern> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >
ment+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig=ZAu> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> P_XFQBkNiVw-hPWWJ-Q>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Government grants for women
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Government+grants+for+women&w1=Gove> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >
rnment+procurement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >
w4=Government+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> &.sig=R7KVvqXEVqN0Ct9WGPhKwg>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Government lease
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Government+lease&w1=Government+proc> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >
urement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Governme> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >
nt+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig=FM8lk> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> JddvatAkQNo00D_Cw>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Government contract
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Government+contract&w1=Government+p> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >
rocurement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Gover> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >
nment+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig=fT> > > >
> >>> > >>>
> >>>>> rsbvxC-m39UjtOdMcT-Q>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>>> Government money
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Government+money&w1=Government+proc> > > >
> >>> > >>>
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urement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Governme> > > >
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:08:53 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: First fragmental analysis splitscreen FOX/CNN live 9/11 footage
...wow, wow, wow...
damn i'm so excited, hunting for the complete live CNN footage from both
hits now 4.5 years and i still could only see half of it, coz mutiple d/l
again... :)
My other cable clip stucked in WIN2000 with codec probs,
no ftp works, coz i forgot admin password, no burner, zip crashed and other
chaos , therefore d/l again via wifi both MPEG and Quicktime on my XP
notebook :)
I remember clearly in 2004, when "9/11 science and justice alliance" also
tried to buy this footage from ebay. Now i finally know, who bought it that
time :) Great job from PerpInq!! and great gig on this split screen combo.
Awesome!!!!
Already very satisfying, that the so called 'cnn' (fish tail) exclusive
amateur camerateam clip was NEVER shown in first hour after 'attack 1' as
far as i watched now, from what i already have..
Also they started with the much much more less professional blurry
blackobject 'clip(s)', with object coming from the right side.
Awesome also how background colors suddenly changes!!
here my first notes, most possibly to be corrected and upgraded with precise
timeline code:
~ 8:54 (all EST, clock CNN here at one point 7:54 i believe ?) CNN:
Subway Witness from first wtc impact, at Ground Zero, who just came from
Penn Station:
"...i just came from the PATH train...Explosion was inside the building,
everything was
coming out...there was nothing else..."
radio interview FOX 'jeanne', witness:
"...sonic boom...debris flattering down..."
witness on telephone FOX, "...sonic boom...i had no idea it was a plane...i
turned on tv,
when they said it was a plane, which was kinda strange..." (then interrupted
by FOX host)
8:59 FOX TV on North Tower, with more analysis or witness reports
9:00 POINT
Suddenly FOX is picking up same camera from CNN, same angle (apparently
both have same
W-ABC camera)
~9:03 dark plane small object coming from right side (2nd attack)
as seen here:
http://webfairy.org/2hit/index.htm
BOTH FOX and CNN have same WCBS source (that's what i always said, CNN and
CBS had same
source!! and the 'exclusive' amateur clip came later!!!)
Then in the next few minutes clip is repeated 3, 4 times on CNN, 1,2 times
on FOX. I could be wrong on these numbers...
FOX switching to W-NBC source, then to W-CBS. Reporter is talking about a
missile as
first impression for the first attack.
then CNN shows i believe clip '9' from webfairy's side.
I have to rewind and recheck again to be sure....(time hard to recognize on
my
quicktime-encoding, i'm still re-transfering the MPEG to rewind frame by
frame i hope...)
LOnnie deVito on FOX
CNN is showing first clip again, then apparently "halting"/freeze framing
the plane
at outside the tower, zoom in, then let it 'continue', from that angle not
buttering,
but gliding into the building, followed by an immediate explosion at OUTSIDE
of building.
They do the same special effect a second time. Plane freeze frame from the
right,
continuing the movie, freeze framing outside building, a zoom into, then a
go and glide,
then explosion....
Now 3rd time (i personally recall this special effect from that day):
Footage is darkened, plane is surrounded by white round background and
followed
with this white 'snowball' effect, with same halt-, stop- and glide
effect....
FOX shows for 3rd time plane coming from behind the building, not clear to
notice,
light blue-greenish background...
I think, we still saw only 2-3 different clips of the second hit so far...
Now (sorry for no timecode) CNN tries to re-edit the first clip now and
doesn't show the
gliding anymore, but cuts immediately to the explosion from different camera
angle
WABC has now darker background, greyish instead of blue, possibly from
smoke, but sudden
change from darkish blue to greyish is odd, coz everything is still LIFE,
interrupted from occasional repeats from 2nd hit...
CNN is with pale whitish background, no blue anymore....
At SAME time speculations about "terrorism" and announcements of possible
statements by
Bush.
I think, it's now also exact 9:30 , as i also can recognize on my timecode
and the
screens of CNN and FOX. Terrorism keywords of both channels FOX and CNN
increase...
~9:31 witish and greyish background on both FOX and CNN.
FOX and CNN now with split screen on Bush...
Bush speech starts, while tower still burning in rigt window.
Note that CNN and FOX use exact same split screen source, same angle...
then after a while, CNN uses a different camera in their tower split screen
Bush speech ends, both CNN and FOX now on different camera angles...
Now FOX with aircraft report Boeing 767 from Boston....
switching to a Reporter: "...details sketchy...no claims of responsibility
yet"
James Levitt now on FOX, while CNN talks about Osama Bin Laden and "this
organisation".
but still also speculates about "other terrorist groups, who would like" to
do something
like this...
Then Aaron Brown on camera, CNN, towers in the background.
Clip from bigger distance now, 'plane' barely to recognise and in my opinion
it's the
SAME "camera", which was on a wider zoom apparently.
Breaking News on CNN, that 1st airplane was american airlines boeing 767
FOX shows "earlier" tape again, this time without halt-effect ....
THE 'EXCLUSIVE AMATEUR CLIP' (clip 12, rosalee)
from CNN was still not shown at this time!!!
It must be ~9:40 by now...
Then ~9:42 Breaking News CNN capture:
Reports of Fire at pentagon, FOX has no alert yet...
9:43 now CNN reporter talks first time about a "huge smoke" at pentagon
Talk about Bush boarding airforce 1 in florida...
Chris Plame (CNN) about pentagon 'explosion', white house evacuated
-capture,
maybe 20 seconds later a camera from DC, but too far away from pentagon and
no wedge...
then reports from smoke at white house...
FOX now with pentagon wedge plume footage, while CNN has not this camera
angle yet....
FOX apparently first with lawn angle....
FOX with reporter about a US Helicopter circling the tower, when explosion
occured.
"was in fact a helicopter in opposite to AP report, then followed by an
explosion..."
---MY FIRST part of d/l parts stop here...i still have to wait for complete
d/l
and i'm still waiting for the 'exclusive' CNN clip in full length, now
almost 4.5 years and still a few hours more :-) Damn, at what f**in time
did they show it?
Was it a local feed only?? Did i see it on that morning on W-CBS,
exclusively wired from CNN??? (coz i was the most time on CBS-----
http://www.archive.org/details/911-Chronology-Source
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:51:42 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: Free Market news with VV'9/11 mirror and comments
Free Market news with VV'9/11 mirror and cool comments
http://www.freemarketnews.com/Feedback.asp?nid=4861SOME STILL RAISE
QUESTIONS ABOUT 9/11
Friday, February 24, 2006 - FreeMarketNews.com
by staff reports
LINKED NEWS ANALYSIS
It's dark in the basement of St. Mark's Church and dark outside on a
mid-December Sunday night, but inside they have seen the light. Among the
100 or so people in the room, many wear buttons that read "9/11 Was An
Inside Job." Others grip the vital texts in their hands—Crossing the
Rubicon, The New Pearl Harbor, or 9/11 Synthetic Terror. Most in the largely
(but not exclusively) white and male crowd can quote you the important
passages from "Rebuilding America's Defenses" or The 9/11 Commission Report.
A few can guide you through the details of concepts like "peak oil" and
pyroclastic flow. All of them suspect — and a few simply know — that their
government was somehow complicit in the attacks that killed nearly 3,000
Americans four Septembers ago.
1. 2/24/2006 - 18:38:0PM
BY: A. Magnus
The Village Voice joins the ranks of controlled opposition like the New York
Times with this little limited hangout hit piece. It's interesting how far
they spin things to look like the government had no motive or precedent for
initiating the 9/11 attacks, as if Operation Northwoods never happened. A
country that already has plans to incarcerate much of its urban population
in prison camps. The entire tenor of this piece is designed to paint those
who question the 'official' accounts of that fateful day as 'mostly white,
middle class and eccentric.' As if any of those features preclude rational
thinking.
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