Monday, February 20, 2006

[911InsideJobbers] Digest Number 388

There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Booga Booga
From: "Bill Giltner" <bill.giltner@gmail.com>
2. Re: Jim Hoffman opposing Greg Nixon
From: "Bill Giltner" <bill.giltner@gmail.com>
3. Re: Uploading Files
From: "alexldent" <alexldent@yahoo.com>
4. Re: Re: Jim Hoffman opposing Greg Nixon
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
5. ***Groups Alert***SOS***Please Forward & then Do your part...It's now or never
From: Mofmars3@wmconnect.com
6. [Fwd: Re:Re: Festering Apocalyptic Conflict Over Israel] [political-research]
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
7. Forward copy of email send to Steven Jones (cc: Tarpley.. did go thru...)
From: "Bill Giltner" <bill.giltner@gmail.com>
8. Toronto Star: "Still the enemy"
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
9. Re: [planehuggers] Fwd: Regarding your hoax pictures from CNN
From: "Rob" <robertjcash@hotmail.com>
10. Re: Toronto Star: "Still the enemy"
From: "perpetualynquisitive" <perpetualynquisitive@yahoo.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:20:01 -0000
From: "Bill Giltner" <bill.giltner@gmail.com>
Subject: Booga Booga

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=156d1e22-a510-4ef3-ac19-657fe7e82a8d
Sunday, February 19, 2006
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - In an audio tape posted on a militant website
Monday, a voice purporting to be that of Osama bin Laden vowed never
to be captured alive and declared the U.S. military in Iraq had
resorted to the same "barbaric" tactics used by ousted President
Saddam Hussein.

The tape appeared to be a complete version of one that was first
broadcast Jan. 19 on Al-Jazeera, the satellite channel, in which bin
Laden offered the United States a truce but also said his al-Qaida
network would soon launch a fresh attack on American soil.

"I have sworn to only live free. Even if I find bitter the taste of
death, I don't want to die humiliated or deceived," bin Laden said.

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:40:12 -0000
From: "Bill Giltner" <bill.giltner@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jim Hoffman opposing Greg Nixon

Just my 2 cents....
Unless Greg has a plan to avoid it, I have to say the media may lump
any acts of civil disobediance in the same category as the Muslim
"cartoon" protestors. Furthermore, if Greg+group are really preceived
as a threat, something will be staged to "frame" us.

In any case, I like the idea of Greg and others wearing more formal,
not casual clothes.

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, just think there's someting to be
said for Hoffman other than he's opposing Greg.

I understand that these times are dire, and scream for action before
more police state control is in place.

Also.. just my opinion:
If there's anything that needs to be screamed from the roof tops above
all, it is: Bin Laden/Al Qaeda is a Lie.

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
wrote:
>
> ...last minute opposition also from Jim Hoffman and co:
>
> http://911research.wtc7.net/re911/disclaimer.html
> Disclaimer
> 9-11 Research does not advocate the breaking of any laws.
>
> On February 16, 2006, we became aware that a flyer, reproduced below,
> advertising the "MARCH FOR TRUTH 2006, GROUND ZERO, NYC - 2/20 -
10:00 AM."
> It features the URL for this website along with st911.org (the
subject of
> this essay). 9-11 Research is not affiliated with or involved in this
> event...
>
> --
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 04:10:26 -0000
From: "alexldent" <alexldent@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Uploading Files

Cool. Thanks. That makes it a bit easier.

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
wrote:
>
> ...i just figured out, that everyone is able to upload files into
our group
> folder, LOL. That should be possible at
>
> Files
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911InsideJobbers/files/
> Add File
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911InsideJobbers/sfupld?path=/
>
> then you just need to highlight/copy the link and paste it into this
list,
> maybe better minimalize it with tinyurl.com
>
> Right now 11% is used, so we have to figure out how much space we
have and
> maybe limit the time for a huge file, that everyone is able to
download it
> in time....
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:12:07 -0600
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Jim Hoffman opposing Greg Nixon

>
> I don't mean to sound pessimistic, just think there's someting to be
> said for Hoffman other than he's opposing Greg.
Yeah. That he's cointelpro paid by MSRI, a subsidiary of Lawrence
Livermore Labs with contracts with NSA and NASA.
http://911review.org/Wiki/911Review.Com.shtml

He also has generational connections to NASA, which is right at the top of my perp list.

So I find his warning about

" 9-11 Research does not advocate the breaking of any laws. "

especially omnious.

Greg Nixon has never advocated breaking any laws, but it looks like that accusation is what is going to be leveled at his protest regardless.

Nothing would get one moderated out of here faster than expressing admiration for Hoffman's two faced half truth on behalf of the empire.

Bill Giltner wrote:
> Just my 2 cents....
> Unless Greg has a plan to avoid it, I have to say the media may lump
> any acts of civil disobediance in the same category as the Muslim
> "cartoon" protestors. Furthermore, if Greg+group are really preceived
> as a threat, something will be staged to "frame" us.
>
> In any case, I like the idea of Greg and others wearing more formal,
> not casual clothes.
>
> I don't mean to sound pessimistic, just think there's someting to be
> said for Hoffman other than he's opposing Greg.
>
> I understand that these times are dire, and scream for action before
> more police state control is in place.
>
> Also.. just my opinion:
> If there's anything that needs to be screamed from the roof tops above
> all, it is: Bin Laden/Al Qaeda is a Lie.
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
> wrote:
>
>> ...last minute opposition also from Jim Hoffman and co:
>>
>> http://911research.wtc7.net/re911/disclaimer.html
>> Disclaimer
>> 9-11 Research does not advocate the breaking of any laws.
>>
>> On February 16, 2006, we became aware that a flyer, reproduced below,
>> advertising the "MARCH FOR TRUTH 2006, GROUND ZERO, NYC - 2/20 -
>>
> 10:00 AM."
>
>> It features the URL for this website along with st911.org (the
>>
> subject of
>
>> this essay). 9-11 Research is not affiliated with or involved in this
>> event...
>>
>> --
>> Telefonieren Sie schon oder sparen Sie noch?
>> NEU: GMX Phone_Flat http://www.gmx.net/de/go/telefonie
>>
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:01:52 EST
From: Mofmars3@wmconnect.com
Subject: ***Groups Alert***SOS***Please Forward & then Do your part...It's now or never

It's 11:01 PM Eastern Time

Make sure to check out the Things You Can Do NOW list for the President's Day
March tomorrow in New York City

Then see the note from Marsha at the end...See it especially if you don't pay
federal taxes or if you don't want to because you know the truth

> Pravda Prints 9/11 Truth--Will Americans Be the Last to Know?
> During the Cold War, Pravda ("truth") was an ironic name. Today, the
> US corporate media is as ruthlessly controlled as the Soviet media ever
> was--for a rare exception, see next item--and, irony of ironies, Pravda
> is telling US the truth about the 9/11 hoax that engineered American
> Stalinism:
> <A HREF="http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/16-02-2006/76020-terorrism-0">http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/16-02-2006/76020-terorrism-0</A>
>
> Mainstream US Newspaper Publishes Call to 9/11 Truth Insurrection
> <A HREF="http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/guest/index.php?ntid=72574">http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/column/guest/index.php?ntid=72574</A>
> If you like this column let them know at:
> <A HREF="http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/letter/letter_form.php">http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/letter/letter_form.php</A>
>
> Tomorrow 2/20/06: Presidents' Day March For Truth in N.Y.C.
> <A HREF="http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/01/332307.shtml">http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/01/332307.shtml</A>
>
> Things You Can Do NOW
> 1) Call talk radio and raise holy hell about 9/11. Vow to make at least
> one call a day, or at the very least one call a week, and hold yourself
> to it. Be sure to phone in to conservative radio hosts and making
> general (not specific) comments when answering to initial screening
> questioning.
> 2) Order yourself a big bankroll of Deception Dollars from
> <A HREF="http://www.deceptiondollar.com/">http://www.deceptiondollar.com/</A> Get them in quantity for only five
> cents each! Carry them everywhere, give them away and watch people do a
> double-take, then crack up. Put them in the driver's door crack of cars
> with appropriate bumperstickers. Hand them out at rallies and concerts.
> 3) Organize a showing of one or more 9/11 truth videos in your church,
> library or living room.
> 4) Send the video links below to everyone you know:
>
> 9/11 Videos Available Online
>
> Its never been easier to spread the truth, every bulletin board, blog,
> and email address on the web can be cheaply and easily infected with
> 9/11 truth. No better time than now, let it rip:
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=eyewitness">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=eyewitness</A>
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay?=5137581991288263801&q=loose+change">http://video.google.com/videoplay?=5137581991288263801&q=loose+change</A>
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay">http://video.google.com/videoplay</A>?
> docid=9124194186333362123&q=9%2F11+reopen
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay">http://video.google.com/videoplay</A>?
> docid=1336167662031629480&q=painful+deceptions
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?
> docid=8797525979024486145&q=9%2F11+ruppert
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid</A>=
> -6529813972926262623&q=the+great+conspiracy
>
> <A HREF="http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=alex+jones&so=0">http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=alex+jones&so=0</A>
>
> Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things
> for granted." --- Aldous Huxley
>
>
> MONDO TERROR ALERTS:
>
> Terrifying New Terror Campaign by Terrorists Terrorizing Terrified
> Tourists at Camp Timidford, Texas
> <A HREF="http://www.mytown.ca/sanityclaws/">http://www.mytown.ca/sanityclaws/</A>
>
> The Missing Portion of the Fatty Bin Laden "Confession Video"
> <A HREF="http://www.dcdave.com/article4/011216.html">http://www.dcdave.com/article4/011216.html</A>
>
>
> Kevin Barrett
> Coordinator, MUJCA-NET: <A HREF="http://mujca.com/">http://mujca.com</A>
> harping

Note from Marsha

In this emailing I'm sending a copy to <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/legality-of-income-tax/">legality-of-income-tax</A>
http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=legality-of-income-tax&submit=Search

I am thanking their membership which is well over 2000 for putting up with me
these past few years...

I know many of my posts seemed off topic but in the need to help unify all
the many important groups, I'm afraid I did have to make a pest out of myself
many times

Always harping on the fact the we all have the same enemy and how we must
join together & strike at that same root at the same time no matter what issues
we hold, as all is connected

I thank this tax group for posting some of what I have had to say over the
years and allowing me to keep my membership, too...

IMO this is the most knowledgeable tax group on the net concerning the
illegal federal income tax that has been forced upon "US"

Concerning this 911 Truth March in New York tomorrow, I just wanted to point
something out ...Can you imagine if we joined not just groups but movements
together...

Which is actually being done behind the scenes by big name organizations, as
we speak...This is not just multiples groups with differing issues as I have
been doing, I'm speaking of, either

If we had promoted this happening...which I did...But If I had more help and
knew sooner...Along with the help of wingtv.net...Can you imagine?

Hey, I hear over a million, maybe it was millions, I heard?...I don't
remember, there's been so much

Millions sound too good to be true...I heard they were no longer paying that
illegal tax, which is within their rights

What if all those angry and in the know, tax activists joined in with the 911
activists tomorrow?...and the anti war people, too...Can you just imagine

And on and on...

Imagine
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Press Release "War Crimes" and "Media Cover-Up of 9/11" Forward Widely

Presidents' Day "March for 9/11 Truth," NYC Ground Zero, 10 a.m. Monday,
2/20/06

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/2/prweb348151.htm&cid=1104412143

A must see>>>wingtv.net>>>Friday, Feb. 17th. show or Alternate link>>><A HREF="http://thewebfairy.com/hardtruth/gregnixon02-20.mp3">
http://thewebfairy.com/hardtruth/gregnixon02-20.mp3</A>

I'm almost ready to notify the major newspapers with a new press
release...I'll be sending it to the media afterwards

Watch for it in your groups and forward it everywhere, please

I check my email frequently so if you need media addresses put SOS in the
subject box so I see it & I'll send them to you

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:38:48 -0600
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
Subject: [Fwd: Re:Re: Festering Apocalyptic Conflict Over Israel] [political-research]

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [political-research] Re: Festering Apocalyptic Conflict
Over Israel
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:03:15 -0600
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>

Closeup stills from the first hit crime scene show little drones, who's
existance is well documented
http://thewebfairy.com/911/uav
and even bragged about.
http://www.google.com/search?q=cia+drones+pakistan

People who believe in FairyTale Planes are gonna get a FairyTale Apocalypse.
It was set up that way intentionally, knowing people would believe
whatever the media told them.

"Insiders" do speak out, they just keep huffing lies to hold their
outrageous coverup together
https://www1.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/01/332076.html?c=on#c142257
"Skyking" and "Architect" seem to be professional interrogation
specialists, expert at psychological intimidation and twisty lies to
fool the schnookiedupes.

It would be nice if Scott Myers, the alleged "amateur photographer" of
the Ghostplane footage
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane
http://thewebfairy.com/911/ghostplane/vanishment
http://thewebfairy.com/911/slideshow/noplane2
http://thewebfairy.com/911/slideshow/2explosion
would come clean. He is a contractor for NIST tho.

This is research Nico Haupt dug up about him:

What Scott Myers 'filmed' is a big joke.
He is Software Development Consultant at NIST.
http://zing.ncsl.nist.gov/hfweb/proceedings/meyers-jones/
And this guy should be credible?

...and who is Desktop Labratories (NA)

Fax:
12 John Street DP12
New York, NY 10038-4000 ??
http://web.archive.org/web/20020722063620/http://desktoplabs.com/
Scott Myers DeskTop Laboratories 12 John Street DP12
New York

...well, he's working on "3D motion capture, graphing
and trial management" since 1996!!!
http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/3d/index3dPro.html

u wanna see his pre-9/11 twin tower??

It's here:
http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/images/3D-Grapher-screenshot.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/3d/index3dPro.html

A re-produced simulation of Marcus Icke shows almost
exactly the same NON-impact butter entry.

If we talk about physics, then this has to be included
too. No wings are breaking apart, the explosion comes
too fast, exit entry too fast, color of fireball
points on no kerosene, no shadows etc....

This isn't 'junk science', it's a catalog of
scientific questions, which had been sabotaged and i
believe, on purpose.

A new team will work now on timecodes, google earth
comparisons to make their point.

I personally wanna dig on all cameramen, which got
involved. This is a tough job, coz almost no names are
mentioned.

If we want to get rid of all deceptions, we have to
talk about media deception first. After all these
networks are the same who presented for us FAKE BIN
LADEN VIDEOS, FAKE DATING SHOWS and FAKE NEWS!

http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/3d/index3dPro.html
"...Motion capture equipment from Ascension'
Technologies provides accurate, fast position and
orientation information....."

...and here is info about Scott Myers' software:

http://www.ascension-tech.com/
http://www.ascension-tech.com/applications/virtual.php
virtual reality techniques are now commonly used in
real-world applications, especially in the design,
visualization and simulation of complex vehicles in
the automotive, aerospace and oil/gas industries. They
are also used in augmented reality systems in which
head tracking is used to overlay pictorial data on
actual parts, components and assemblies.

http://www.ascension-tech.com/images/vr_gallery4.jpg

http://www.ascension-tech.com/company/
Launched in 1986, Ascension has accelerated to the
forefront of the motion tracking industry.

http://www.ascension-tech.com/company/partners.php
Real-time Visualization

http://www.barco.com/broadcasting/en/references/references.asp?ref=3125
"...The key feature of the decision to use LED over
cube projection was the high brightness allowing the
large wall to operate in a very bright
environment...."

http://www.barco.com/corporate/en/products/
Visualization for life-critical decision making
Air traffic control
Avionics

http://www.barco.com/broadcasting/
Barco provides innovative visualization and display
solutions for broadcast applications such as outdoor
marquee, indoor lobby, TV show studio, news studio,
broadcast and distribution monitoring room, screening
or training room and post production.

Barco is a military contractor and just 1 of 15
partners of ascension-tech:

http://www.barco.com/aboutbarco/en/CompanyProfile.asp
Barco is active in the markets of traffic,
surveillance, broadcasting, presentation, simulation
and virtual reality, edutainment, events, media,
digital cinema, air traffic control, defense &
security, medical imaging, avionics, and textiles....

Sean McBride wrote:
>
> I'm interested in all the forensic evidence. I simply don't think
> that focusing on this aspect of 9/11 is going to crack the case open.
> The case will not move forward until some informed insiders speak
> out. But the catch is this: if they do start to speak out, they may
> trigger 9/11 Part II.
>
>
>
> --- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable
> <webfairy@...> wrote:
> >
> > Media Hoax.
> > http://911hoax.com
> >
> > The "Political Mainstream" is completely duped.
> > This IS the core element of 911. They were duped, are still duped, and
> > are playing out their roles as fictional characters being fed their
> > lines by the same gang that didn't have to waste any real planes on 911
> > because they knew they could make people imagine planes just as well.
> >
> > The same gang televises fictional news about whatever fictional
> > boogieman or artificially created problem they feel like.
> >
> > Until people can grok the difference between objective fact and
> fanciful
> > mindspinning, we will continue on track toward a fairytale apocalypse.
> >
> > The first hit footage that is supposed to show the plane doesn't have a
> > plane in it, but instead shows little cia-style drone thingies like
> > they've bragged about using over Pakistan.
> >
> > How you think you can solve a murder while ignoring the forensic video
> > shot live of the crimescene is quite boggling.
> >
> > Sean McBride wrote:
> > >
> > > Precisely HOW 9/11 was accomplished is not nearly as important as WHO
> > > was behind it and WHY. Getting sidetracked on the HOW while losing
> > > sight of the WHO and WHY is a major mistake, in my opinion. I waste
> > > almost no time in arguing about the HOW. Whether real planes were
used
> > > or not is close to irrelevant to the core issues of 9/11. The HOW
> > > factor is only interesting if it can be used to unravel the official
> > > story among members of the political mainstream. Most members of the
> > > political mainstream can't begin to wrap their minds around the
> concept
> > > of no-planes with regard to 9/11. It is not a productive approach to
> > > challenging the official story on 9/11.< BR>> >
> > > --- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable webfairy@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We went to war over cartoon airplanes that waggle their little fish
> > > > tails as they melt.
> > > > http://thewebfairy.com/911/2hit
> > > > Pigs are Flying.
> > > > http://thewebfairy.com/911/flyingpig
> > > >
> > > > Sean McBride wrote:
> > > > > *Festering Apocalyptic Conflict Over Israel*
> > > > >
> > > > > Wouldn't it be fascinating if the world were destroyed over a
> fairy
> > > > > tale, by a self-fulfilling Armageddon? It could happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > The key players:
> > > > >
> > > > > biblical literalists
> > > > > Chabad-Lubavitchers
> > > > > Christian Armageddonists
> > > > > Christian fundamentalists
> > > > > Christian terrorists
> > > > > Christian Zionists
> > > > > Dominionists
> > > > > Freepers
> > > > > Greater Israelists
> > > > > Islamists
> > > > > Jabotinskyites
> > > > > Jewish Armageddonists
> > > > > Jewish fundamentalists
> > > > > Jewish terrorists
> > > > > Judeo-Christian fascists
> > > > > monotheistic Armageddonists
> > > > > monotheistic fundamentalists
> > > > > monotheistic terrorists
> > > > > Muslim Armageddonists
> > > > > Muslim fundamentalists
> > > > > Muslim terrorists
> > > > > neoconservatives
> > > > > neoliberals
> > > > > religious Zionists
> > > > > Straussians
> > > > > Wahabbists
> > > > > Each major messianic bloc is aggravating all the others. They are
> > > all
> > > > > working one another up into an apocalyptic frenzy.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 23:07:15 -0600
From: "Bill Giltner" <bill.giltner@gmail.com>
Subject: Forward copy of email send to Steven Jones (cc: Tarpley.. did go thru...)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bill Giltner <bill.giltner@gmail.com>
Date: Feb 19, 2006 10:59 PM
Subject: 9/11: 5 mins of your time.
To: steven_jones@byu.edu
Cc: tarpley@tarpley.net

Dr. Jones:

I was able to watch your video presentation (from 2/1/06) today that I
received via bit torrent. I noticed that it is also available at
video.google.com. Thank you for your courage and commitment to exposing the
truth.

Tomorrow (2/20/2006), there is a protest at Ground Zero starting at 10:00.
We are proud to have Webster Tarpley in attendence and as our key speaker,
one of your associates in Scholars for Truth.

Let me get to the point. As an avid amateur researcher, and as a concerned
cititzen, I have watched 9/11 related developments over the last three
years. I'm certainly not trying to tell you what to believe, or who to
trust. However, I noticed a particular web site, controlled by a particular
individual, who is behaving in a dreadful manner. Let me provide a link to
the web page in question:
http://911research.wtc7.net/re911/disclaimer.html. I am attaching a graphic
that is a snap shot of the page in question as well. You may notice that
the "flyer" for tomorrow's event (at the bottom of the web page) references
the Scholars for truth web site, as well as the 911research.wtc7.net site.

I'm not privy to the details of whether one of the organizers of the event
tomorrow contacted Mr. Jim Hoffman and received any kind of green light for
including the website in the flyer.

My only point to be made, which I wanted you and everyone to be made aware
of, is the slap-down nature of what has been posted (as referenced above)
about Greg Nixon, one the of the organizers who openly appeared on WingTV on
Friday (2/17). The innuendo implied by the defamatory nature of Mr.
Hoffman's reference to Greg is obvious. Unless I find out information I
don't currently have, I believe that Mr. Holffman's words are a sign of bias
at the least, and more like indicative of the existence of an ulterior
motive. Mr. Hoffman, with he pretty pic of what a peaceful protest looks
like, is being entirely disingenuous. The 9/11/05 protest that was held
last year in NYC and protrayed in the pic was a travesty.

Thanks for taking to time to review this email. It contains what I believe
is important information that bears upon evaluations of who is truly
dedicated to having the whole truth revealed.

Sincerely,

Bill Giltner
bill.giltner@gmail.com
http://bgtruth.blogspot.com

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:56:16 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: Toronto Star: "Still the enemy"

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Render&c=Article&cid=1140216612759&call_pageid=968867495754
Feb. 19, 2006
Still the enemy

"...Three years after the invasion of Iraq and more than five years since
9/11, real dissent in the United States is next to impossible. People who
speak out against George W. Bush and his administration are paying a steep
personal price, Olivia Ward reports...

...On the scale of difficulties thrown in the way of suspected Bush enemies,
John Graham says his is minor.

"When I take an airline flight, I have to spend an extra half an hour at the
airport. They have to call Washington to let me get on the plane because I'm
on a no-fly list," says the head of the Giraffe Heroes Project, which
"encourages people to stick their necks out" on issues of the public
good....

..."If they really want to hurt me," he says, "they can stop me from getting
on airplanes. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but now I'm being pushed. I
have no idea what I'm doing on the list, but Bush has made an implacable
political enemy."

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:03:23 -0000
From: "Rob" <robertjcash@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [planehuggers] Fwd: Regarding your hoax pictures from CNN

Um...this was caught a while ago (by yours truly...LOL) ;-)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/911InsideJobbers/message/6858

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
wrote:
>
> > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> > Von: "perpetualynquisitive" <perpetualynquisitive@...>
> > An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [planehuggers] Fwd: Regarding your
hoax
> > pictures from CNN
> > Datum: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 03:41:39 -0000
> >
>
>
> >>>Just noticed another interesting anomaly in that 'new' footage.
At the
> 1:08 mark, after the camera zooms back out, if you look at WTC7 you can
> see the 'outline' of a person reflected in the window, it is very faint,
> but you can still make out that this person seems to be holding a cell
> phone up to the side of their face (1:08-1:16).<<<
>
>
>
> perp, awesome catch:)
>
>
> I watched it now dozens of times.
> I also thought first, he's picking a cell phone, but now it appears
to me
> that he's either holding his both (empty!) hands out to something or is
> doing some Tai Chih-like 'work out' :)
>
> Just watch the loop 20 times and the effect changes. I think, both
hands are
> empty...
>
>
>
> >>>>Seems as though there were plenty of 'VR spooks' in the NYC area on
> 9/11. Devin Clark, Evan Fairbanks, Naudet brothers, Aaron Brown. Good
> thing for us that their work is terrible, for the most part.
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@>
> wrote:
> >
> > http://thewebfairy.com/911/big/
> >
> > The "plane" hippityhops.
> > This is proof it is animation. The duplicates stop as soon as it
> > vanishes behind the building for a shade too long.
> > That's not the only thing wrong with it!
> > http://thewebfairy.com/911/big/
> >
> > Here's about the credited "author."<<<<
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:07:18 -0000
From: "perpetualynquisitive" <perpetualynquisitive@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Toronto Star: "Still the enemy"

Three years after the invasion of Iraq and more than five years since
9/11, real dissent in the United States is next to impossible.

Interesting, I was under the impression that this coming September would
mark the 5 year point. I must be mistaken, as the M$M never gets the
facts wrong.

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
wrote:
>
>
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Render&c=Article&cid=1140216612759&call_pageid=968867495754
> Feb. 19, 2006
> Still the enemy
>
> "...Three years after the invasion of Iraq and more than five years
since
> 9/11, real dissent in the United States is next to impossible. People
who
> speak out against George W. Bush and his administration are paying a
steep
> personal price, Olivia Ward reports...
>
> ...On the scale of difficulties thrown in the way of suspected Bush
enemies,
> John Graham says his is minor.
>
> "When I take an airline flight, I have to spend an extra half an hour
at the
> airport. They have to call Washington to let me get on the plane
because I'm
> on a no-fly list," says the head of the Giraffe Heroes Project, which
> "encourages people to stick their necks out" on issues of the public
> good....
>
> ..."If they really want to hurt me," he says, "they can stop me from
getting
> on airplanes. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but now I'm being pushed.
I
> have no idea what I'm doing on the list, but Bush has made an
implacable
> political enemy."
>
> --
> Telefonieren Sie schon oder sparen Sie noch?
> NEU: GMX Phone_Flat http://www.gmx.net/de/go/telefonie
>

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