oh.
I getcha.
You want the whole lowdown.
Cool. Good to get this stuff together for flack to come.
Hoffman's article grexxing and calling it all "personal attack" is a
good place to start.
http://911research.wtc7.net/re911/adhominem.html
We never accused him of setting up Woody to be murdered. Did he make
that up, or are there more people with serious charges about him?
http://www.911review.org/Wiki/911Review.Com.shtml
Hoffman joined various 9/11 mailing lists under a number of different
emails and personae, claiming at various times to be an artist, a
software entrepreneur, and at the the SPINE list of physics911.org,
which says it's credentials based, he is listed as a physician. In fact,
we understand that his degree is in Fine Arts, which may explain his
creative approach to the laws of chemistry and physics.
If fact, based on a careful study of our website's logs, Jim Hoffman's
real job was found to be as a [WWW]computer engineer
<http://www.msri.org/people/staff/jim/index.html> for a "research
institute" at one of the US Government's most important Laboritories:
Lawrence Berkeley Labs, and his real email is mailto:jim@msri.org . The
[WWW] Mathematical Sciences Research Institute <http://www.msri.org/>has
[WWW] amongst its sponsors
<http://www.msri.org/governance/sponsors/govsponsors.html>:
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The National Security Agency
*
The Office of Naval Research, which acts as the research arm of
the Office of Naval Intelligence.
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The Department of Energy, manager of the US nuclear laboritories
such as Lawrence Berkeley and Livermore.
Naive members of the "9/11 Truth" community had accepted Hoffman's
descriptions of himself as an artist with activist credentials at face
value, but when confronted with the disclosure of his real occupation
and employers, he became indignant ( [WWW] rule 2
<http://www.911review.org/Wiki/DisinformationRule2.shtml>), and vanished
from the mailing list ( [WWW]rule 25
<http://www.911review.org/Wiki/DisinformationRule25.shtml>).
Jim Hoffman's specialty on 9/11 is long involved technical papers that
are too complex to for most people to follow ( [WWW]rule 2
<http://www.911review.org/Wiki/DisinformationRule2.shtml> ). For
example, his Dust Clouds paper, makes no sense at all. The use of the
ideal gas law for the expansion of the dust clouds is absurd: the ideal
gas law is a Carnot Cycle / equilibrium thermodynamics calculation. It's
an absurdity to do a calculation of the mean of the Boltzmann
distribution of kinetic energy at thermodynamic equilibrium on a mixture
of concrete and office workers that has been blasted out horizontally
almost the width of the TwinTowers
<http://www.911review.org/Wiki/TwinTowers.shtml> . Not only it is not
equilibrium, it's not a gas - it's a mixture. There's no evidence the
dust clouds were heated to hundreds of degrees centigrade, and even if
you had the enthalpy to heat it, you could not thermally heat it in the
time allowed because of the kinetics ([WWW] rule 13
<http://www.911review.org/Wiki/DisinformationRule13.shtml>).
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Hoffman the Spook
http://www.911closeup.com/index.shtml?ID=78
Hoffman the Plagerist
http://www.911closeup.com/index.shtml?ID=74
lexldent wrote:
> Okay... but how do we know that Hoffman is taking cues from the NSA? What
> is the most damning thing? That he thinks flight 77 hit the Pentagon? These
> connections of Hoffman to the NSA are not very convincing in of themselves.
> Lots of scietific institutes get money from different federal agencies. How do
> we know Jack Hoffman is Jim Hoffman's uncle? I can't find anything on the
> web...
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
> wrote:
>
>> This is from Nico:
>>
>> Hoffman is formerly associated with an NSA sponsored institute and via
>> his uncle Jack Hoffman to yet another NASA- and NSA contractor Veridian:
>> Noone else than Neil Armstrong (his sister is married to Jack), himself
>> tied to "Project Trailblazer".
>>
>> Trailblazer was contracted via NRO and NSA since 1998 and was partly
>> developed by BTG Inc. and BoozAllen Hamilton in the very same pentagon
>> wedge, which was officially attacked on sep11th.
>>
>> Trailblazer was recently also exposed in mainstream media = MSM,
>>
> however
>
>> without reference to pre-9/11 contracts.
>>
>>
>> alexldent wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone help me-- what is the evidence that is Hoffman is
>>>
> connected to
>
>>> the NSA again? Not that I doubt it so much but rather I would like to show
>>>
> it to
>
>>> other people. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Total Information <
>>>
> totalinfo@>
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I just mentioned they sent out their press release on PRWeb. PRWeb is
>>>>
> an
>
>>>> open system, anyone with a few hundred bucks can use it. Many
>>>>
> university
>
>>>> departments use it to announce a new study, etc.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/3/06, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Outed. as in exposed against his will?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am extremely suspicious of Professor Jones, under any circumstance.
>>>>> Exposed like the "truth movement" did to Underwriter Lab's Ryan would
>>>>> not surprise me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jones is one who quotes NSA's Jim Hoffman like some demigod, and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> thought
>>>
>>>
>>>>> that the vanishment of the second hit cartoon looks "like he'd expect."
>>>>> Sneer. He's supposed to be a physics professor and does not notice
>>>>> Gravity and Conservation of Energy are being violated ?
>>>>>
>>>>> What they're good at is getting publicity.
>>>>> PR. I don't understand how Total figured out that they are using
>>>>> professional PR.
>>>>> It's an important fact.
>>>>> Professional PR is at the tippy-top of my perp list. I think "93 heroes"
>>>>> Beamer and Bingham were professional PR guys who wrote
>>>>>
> themselves
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> into
>>>
>>>
>>>>> the plot.
>>>>> WE determined that their memorial websites are handled by gov
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> connected
>>>
>>>
>>>>> PR firms.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alexldent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it is a limited hangout because:
>>>>>> a) they can say they wired the WTC after the 1993 bombing as a
>>>>>>
> safety
>
>>>>>> precaution and they had to keep this secret so the terrorists wouldn't
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> b) the demolition can always be sold as a preventive measure they
>>>>>>
> had
>
>>>>>> to take to save additionbal lives in lower manhattan
>>>>>> c) if the demolition charges were put in after '93, the demolition
>>>>>> doesn't imply they knew 9/11 was coming or that 9/11 was an inside
>>>>>>
> job
>
>>>>>> d) the demolition, like the putative shootdown of flight 93, is seen
>>>>>> as a reactive measure the govt had to take in response to the
>>>>>> attacks-- a neccessary evil, if you will
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How this will all play out, I don't know. I think the momentum for
>>>>>> exposing the demolition is building-- particularly after Professor
>>>>>> Jones' latest talk-- and he has outed my friend, a professor of
>>>>>> engineering who is convinced the towers were brought down by
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> demolition.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "inphoman911"
>>>>>> <inphoman911@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I honestly don't see how they could get away with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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