Discussion about 09/11/2001: 04/20/06

Thursday, April 20, 2006

[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1238

There are 23 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. 9/11 Addiction
From: "botalerts" botalerts@yahoo.ca
2. US Officials Indicted in Botched Terror Case
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
3. DEADLIEST SHIRT IN THE WORLD
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
4. Re: ++++++ Physicist says heat substance felled WTC ++++++
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
5. little boys, tigers and jungles... oh, my... I think that does it.
From: "goat!" goat@moag.2y.net
6. Re: Gas Prices
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
7. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
8. Re: It appears that your blocking my posts - with no notice
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
9. (no subject)
From: "Quechick Barnyard" quechick007@yahoo.com
10. (no subject)
From: "Quechick Barnyard" quechick007@yahoo.com
11. (no subject)
From: "Quechick Barnyard" quechick007@yahoo.com
12. gas
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
13. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
14. Re: 9/11 Addiction
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
15. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
16. Re: It appears that your blocking my posts - with no notice
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
17. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "angela mvbride" fourddream@yahoo.com
18. STOP ratcheting up the fear!
From: "Scott" sledger911@yahoo.com
19. Re: It appears that your blocking my posts - with no notice
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
20. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
21. Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
22. 9/11 update 4/20 tvnl news
From: "reggie501" reggie501@optonline.net
23. We are ALL to blame...every American
From: "Scott" sledger911@yahoo.com

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Message 1
From: "botalerts" botalerts@yahoo.ca
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:28pm(PDT)
Subject: 9/11 Addiction

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/04/911-addiction.html

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Message 2
From: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:13pm(PDT)
Subject: US Officials Indicted in Botched Terror Case

US Officials Indicted in Botched Terror Case Thursday, March 30 2006 @ 11:11 AM Eastern Standard Time Dealing a blow to US President George W. Bush's so-called "war on terror", two US federal officials were charged with hiding evidence to win conviction in a terrorism case against four Muslim men following the 9/11, The New York Times reported on Thursday, March 30.
Richard Convertino, the former Detroit federal prosecutor, and Harry Raymond Smith, former security official assigned to the US Embassy in Amman, Jordan, were indicted Wednesday, March 29, on charges of conspiracy, obstruction of justice and making false declarations.

The two conspired to withhold photographs of a US military hospital in Jordan they claimed to be a target of a terror attack by four Muslim men who were arrested days after the 9/11 attacks in a dilapidated Detroit apartment.

Federal authorities claimed the men were part of a "sleeper" terrorist cell plotting attacks against Americans overseas.

Two of the men were convicted on terrorism charges after a high-profile trial in 2003.

But later, the case began to unravel amid accusations of concealed evidence and government misconduct.

The conviction was thrown in September 2004 at the request of the US Attorney's Office, which said Convertino had withheld key evidence from the defendants and allowed witnesses to mislead the jury.

Lying

Convertino, 45, who has left the Justice Department, faces 30 years in prison and a $1 million fine if convicted.

Smith, a security officer for the State Department who assisted in the prosecution, faces 20 years in prison and a $750,000 fine.

During the trial in 2003, Convertino said that sketches, with corresponding words in Arabic, represented "casings" of two overseas targets — an American air base in Turkey and a military hospital in Jordan.

Smith also testified that one of the sketch was an "exact" match to the area surrounding the hospital.

He lied under oath after the defense team asked prosecutors to produce photographs of the site for comparison.

Smith claimed he could not take photos of a military site without permission from Jordanian authorities.

The US government agreed in February to pay $300,000 to settle an illegal detention lawsuit brought by an Egyptian man who was among hundreds of Muslims rounded up in New York after the September attacks.

Thousands of Muslim and Arabic men were rounded up and questioned in the weeks and months following the terrorist attacks.

Some of the detainees have sued the US government after their release for inhumane and degrading treatment and a total blackout of communications in detention centers on the US soil.

A May 2004 report released by the US Senate Office Of Research concluded that the Arab Americans and the Muslim community in the United States have taken the brunt of the Patriot Act and other federal powers applied in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.

Amnesty International also repeatedly said that racial profiling by US law enforcement agencies had grown dramatically in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.
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Message 3
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:13pm(PDT)
Subject: DEADLIEST SHIRT IN THE WORLD

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16955598&method=full&siteid=
94762&headline=deadliest-shirt-in-the-world--name_page.html

17 April 2006
DEADLIEST SHIRT IN THE WORLD
9/11 survivor's toxic clothing sparks cancer fear
By Stephen White
THIS deadly 9/11 shirt contains so much asbestos it is feared
thousands of the disaster's survivors could be hit with cancer.

The garment worn by survivor Yehuda Kaploun, 39, has 93,000 times
higher levels of asbestos than normal - 47 TIMES the safety limit.

It is also saturated with toxic zinc, mercury, antimony, barium,
chromium, cobalt, copper, lead and molybdenum.

More than a million tonnes of dust containing chemicals and 400,000
tonnes of asbestos choked the skies after New York's World Trade
Center was hit by two hijacked planes.

Now there are fears that Yehuda's shirt is grim evidence that
rescuers and survivors could face lethal health problems in decades
to come.

Yehuda, who spent two days battling to save lives at Ground Zero,
said: "I saw thousands of people covered in the dust. We were told
there was no danger. Obviously, this isn't the case.

"It goes to show how wrong these people were who we trusted.

"So far, thank God, I check out OK. But I hope the government will
do the right thing for all those who were at Ground Zero for any
length of time." Yehuda was a liaison officer between the police,
fire departments and the Orthodox Jewish community in the aftermath
of the disaster that killed 2,752 people.

He watched as his friend, fireman Mychal Judge, died in a building
collapse. When he returned home exhausted he decided to keep the
shirt rather than have it cleaned, and sealed it in a plastic bag.

He said: "Something told me it was loaded with stuff."

The shirt was sent for analysis to RJ Lee Group laboratories.

Forensic testing has revealed that parts contain a concentration of
chrysotile asbestos about 93,000 times higher than the average found
in the environment.

A safe level of asbestos on clothing is below one per cent. The
shirt has levels approaching 47 per cent.

Chuck Lee, a senior scientist at the lab, said: "These are at the
high end of surface concentrations that you'd find anywhere."

Yehuda said he hoped the damning evidence could help others who may
have been exposed to the danger.

He said: "Maybe my shirt and I can do something to help all those
people who were at Ground Zero for weeks and months on end.

"If this is what is needed to help and support them, then that's a
blessing." Dr Mark Rosen, chief of Pulmonary and Critical Care
Medicine at Beth Israel Hospital, warned that it can take decades
for asbestos cancers to develop.

He said: "We won't know the effect of Ground Zero exposure for
years."

Heavy metals burned in the debris of the Twin Towers for months
after the terror strike.

David Worby, a lawyer for 7,300 rescue and recovery workers who
continually inhaled the smoke and dust at Ground Zero, later called
the area "the worst toxic site ever".

He said: "It's mind-boggling the poisons they made these people work
through. The amount of dioxins made Vietnam look like a
kindergarten."

A report published last month showed that 62 per cent of those
caught in the dust cloud later went down with respiratory problems.

Last week a US coroner said that the death of police detective James
Zadroga, 34, from respiratory disease was "directly related" to the
9/11 attacks.

The families of two dozen workers who died after being involved in
the clean-up operation are suing New York City authorities.

s.white@mirror.co.uk

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Message 4
From: "mojo_j_2000" mojo_j_2000@yahoo.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:15pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: ++++++ Physicist says heat substance felled WTC ++++++

...paging charlie sheen
>
> Physicist says heat substance felled WTC
> Susan Dean – Deseret Morning News April 10, 2006
> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=4386
>
> Brigham Young University physicist said he now believes an
> incendiary substance called thermite, bolstered by sulfur, was
used
> to generate exceptionally hot fires at the World Trade Center on
> 9/11, causing the structural steel to fail and the buildings to
> collapse.
>
> "It looks like thermite with sulfur added, which really is a very
> clever idea," Steven Jones, professor of physics at BYU, told a
> meeting of the Utah Academy of Science, Arts and Letters at Snow
> College Friday.
>
> The government requires standard explosives to contain tag
elements
> enabling them to be traced back to their manufacturers. But no
tags
> are required in aluminum and iron oxide, the materials used to
make
> thermite, he said. Nor, he said, are tags required in sulfur.
>
> Jones is co-chairman, with James H. Fetzer, a distinguished
> professor of philosophy at the University of Minnesota of Scholars
> for 9/11 Truth, a group of college faculty members who believe
> conspirators other than pilots of the planes were directly
involved
> in bringing down New York's Trade Towers.
>
> The group, which Jones said has 200 members, maintains a Web site
at
> www.st911.org. A 40-page paper by Jones, along with other peer-
> reviewed and non-reviewed academic papers, are posted on the site.
>
> Last year, Jones presented various arguments for his theory that
> explosives or incendiary devices were planted in the Trade Towers,
> and in WTC 7, a smaller building in the Trade Center complex, and
> that those materials, not planes crashing into the buildings,
caused
> the buildings to collapse.
>
> At that time, he mentioned thermite as the possible explosive or
> incendiary agent. But Friday, he said he is increasingly convinced
> that thermite and sulfur were the root causes of the 9/11
disaster.
>
> He told college professors and graduate students from throughout
> Utah gathered for the academy meeting that while almost no fire,
> even one ignited by jet fuel, can cause structural steel to fail,
> the combination of thermite and sulfur "slices through steel like
a
> hot knife through butter."
>
> He ticked off several pieces of evidence for his thermite fire
> theory:
>
> First, he said, video showed a yellow, molten substance splashing
> off the side of the south Trade Tower about 50 minutes after an
> airplane hit it and a few minutes before it collapsed. Government
> investigators ruled out the possibility of melting steel being the
> source of the material because of the unlikelihood of steel
melting.
> The investigators said the molten material must have been aluminum
> from the plane.
>
> But, said Jones, molten aluminum is silvery. It never turns
yellow.
> The substance observed in the videos "just isn't aluminum," he
said.
> But, he said, thermite can cause steel to melt and become
yellowish.
>
> Second, he cited video pictures showing white ash rising from the
> south tower near the dripping, liquefied metal. When thermite
burns,
> Jones said, it releases aluminum-oxide ash. The presence of both
> yellow-white molten iron and aluminum oxide ash "are signature
> characteristics of a thermite reaction," he said.
>
> Another item of evidence, Jones said, is the fact that sulfur
traces
> were found in structural steel recovered from the Trade Towers.
> Jones quoted the New York Times as saying sulfidization in the
> recovered steel was "perhaps the deepest mystery uncovered in the
> (official) investigation." But, he said, sulfidization fits the
> theory that sulfur was combined with thermite to make the thermite
> burn even hotter than it ordinarily would.
>
> Jones said a piece of building wreckage had a gray substance on
the
> outside that at one point had obviously been a dripping molten
metal
> or liquid. He said that after thermite turns steel or iron into a
> molten form, and the metal hardens, it is gray.
>
> He added that pools of molten metal were found beneath both trade
> towers and the 47-story WTC 7. That fact, he said, was never
> discussed in official investigation reports.
>
> And even though WTC 7 was not connected to the Trade Towers — in
> fact, there was another building between it and the towers —and
even
> though it was never hit by a plane, it collapsed. That suggests,
he
> said, that it came down because a thermite fire caused its
> structural steel to fail.
>
> Jones said his studies are confined to physical causes of the
> collapses, and he doesn't like to speculate about who might have
> entered the buildings and placed thermite and sulfur. But he said
10
> to 20 people "in the know," plus other people who didn't know what
> they were doing but did what they were told, could have placed
> incendiary packages over several weeks.
> http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635198488,00.html
>
> Also see:
> Y. professor thinks bombs, not planes, felled WTC
> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3808
>
> Watch Your Back Professor!
> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3814
>
> B.Y.U. professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lying about
9/11
> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4100
>
> Last updated 12/04/2006
>

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Message 5
From: "goat!" goat@moag.2y.net
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:00pm(PDT)
Subject: little boys, tigers and jungles... oh, my... I think that does it.

There was once a little boy playing in the jungle, and
a tiger came upon him and gave chase to the little boy,
the little boy remembered he had some candies in his pocket,
stopped, turned around to offer the tiger one, and was promptly
invited to dinner.

There was another little boy playing in the jungle, and a tiger
came upon him, the little boy started to run as the tiger gave chase,
the little boy saw another boy with a spear. He ran up to the little boy
with the spear, and offered him a candy that he had in his pocket, to
help with the tiger, and they both managed to lay slay to the tiger.

The two little boys built wonderful cities in the trees, away from the
tigers.

Then there was a third little boy "playing" in the jungle, and yes
another tiger came upon him and gave chase.

Having long ago ate any candies in a fit of immediate gratification,
this little boy reached down and plucked away his own manhood and threw
them at the tiger. The tiger licked his lips after greedily eating the
morsels and demanded more from the little boy. Not wanting to spend more
then he already had to, the little boy remembered seeing two little boys
nearby building some odd thing, and led the tiger to the two little
boys, and the little boy sat down with the tiger for a nice dinner of
the two other little boys. The supply of little boys soon ran out, and
with it, the torch of liberty and humanities hope to build wonderful
cities in the sky, for humanity itself was no more.

Goat

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Message 6
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:55pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Gas Prices

It is the United States style of doing Business. The United States is a
Corporation that was formed, I think in the 1880’s, to conduct the business
of the United States of America. Someone back then said that Governments
weren’t suppose to be in business, they were suppose to be Governing.

And the chute opened and we have slid even faster into the corporat4e abyss
than Franklin and Jefferson referred to before they passed on.

-----Original Message-----
From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Naveed
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:30 AM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] Gas Prices

How would you like it if you had a business and your buddies with the guns
nullified your #1 competitor?

ROFLLMAO!!!! Don't you know that's Rockefeller style of doing business?

Scott Peden <scotpeden@cruzio.com> wrote:
The Oil in Iraq is going no where. After the first three months of farce,
they never even tried to keep the oil line protected.

What they have done, for their oil buddies is take that competition out of
circulation.

How would you like it if you had a business and your buddies with the guns
nullified your #1 competitor?

Yes, it is about the Oil, but the Oil is only one of many plans in actions
that evolves to economic control of the worlds governments.

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From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bugs
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:09 AM
To: a; 911truthaction@yahoogroups.com; texaskerry@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] Gas Prices

To Find a Citgo station ,go to www.citgo.com, Oil today will open at an
all time high of $71.35 per barrel,so dig deeper friends and remind all as
you fill up ,bush,cheney cause this, I do and when i see the Black W ---I
really ask them.You should too...
Oh by the way where is the IRAQ oil going to? Maybe China? Does anyone know?
Overton County,Tn gas prices is from $2.80 to $3.10 a gallon... Please post
the price where you live...and lets keep doing it.. some here are saying it
is going to $4.00 a gallon soon...
bugs

In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and
hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it
costs nothing to be a patriot.
- Notebook, 1904

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Message 7
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:11am(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

Working rednecks huh? I have a pretty good handle on them.

I don’t tell them nuthin, I ask them things like, They really think that we
believe 3 buildings came down when only 2 planes hit ad the fire wasn’t hot
enough to do a brush burn! (just a statement) but if you can make a
statement them say, they really think we are that stupid, don’t they? That
tactic works wonders. No one wants to be called stupid.

When I get my rare cups of coffee the newspaper stand is right next to me, I
take every advantage to say something like, did you see in this paper that
they said this BS? What do they take us for, idiots? And do the question
statement thing, get my coffee and get the hell outta there, cause they are
now thinking. On a good day I can have all within earshot talking about
this, and I don’t mean whispering and I do this in the republican sewn up
area of my county. In under a year, even the Bush/Cheney people will not
attack 9/11 comments and many will say, someone must be threatening our
pResident or he’d do something about this!

I never say what they have to believe, I make a semi statement of fact, and
then ask questions. The moment you take a solid stance, they can shut you
off and they can just deny anything you say, so I ask them for their
opinion, or say “You believes this and that , don’t you? After all, you don’
t look as stupid as those folks seem to think we voters are” That is, ask a
question and make them right and note that they aren’t idiots, even of you
may personally think they are.

At the very least, it is progress and without that, we’re all dead if we’re
lucky and if not luck, we’d indentured servitude in the work force prison of
choice of the Multi nationals.

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From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of kitty285
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 6:54 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?

Kevin,im trying to work the Bible Belt without my head blown off by a red
neck !!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Hammond" <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?

> The internet is NOT ENOUGH. There are millions that do NOT have access.
We are now getting down to the wire and must pull out ALL of the stops and
LITTERALLY do EVERYTHING that we can to get this information OUT! The
alternative is a MASSIVE one world police state the likes of which NO ONE
here can possibly fathom. PLEASE! everyone one this group that knows
ANYTHING about 9/11 and false flag terror MUST get out there and educate as
many people as possible! Otherwisw we are all up a creek without a paddle.
Go to the files section and download flyers and copy them and put them
EVERYWHERE! Burn copies of dvds and give them out. Do whatever you CAN to
get this information OUT!.
>
> Kevin
> www.fightthenwo.org
>
> Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:
>
>
> v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR:
url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape {
BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } I have always placed my faith on
using the internet to expose to the world what they are and what they have
done. The 9-11 frameup is a crime big enough that people can't brush it
aside. Our best hope is to show the world the ample evidence of the
false-flag attack -- and then enlarge that hole until their motives and
their other crimes are exposed. They cannot withstand public opinion.
>
> It is the only strategy I know -- and it is one I will keep pushing --
but I must admit, in five years I have not seen the people take what we
already know and use it to enlighten the world.
>
> Charlie Sheen is the best thing that has happened in five years. May
circumstances favor his efforts.
>
> Dick Eastman
> Yakima, Washington
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Peden
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?
>
>
> So, you are saying that it is hopeless?
>
> Or do you proscribe a course of action as the internet ad our freedoms
evaporate all at once?
>
> Or are you depending on the masses to rise up when their entertainment
is taken away?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dick Eastman
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:10 AM
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?
>
> The plague will not be like the attack on the Pentagon -- it will be
beyond our ability to investigate.
>
> Next the nuclear bomb that will be blamed on Iraq -- because there will
be no invasion right away, they are setting Iran up for blame for the
false-flag nuclear attack -- the bomb that will be blamed on Iran will not
leave evidence -- and the sudden loss of all freedoms by the declaration
of martial law, including the shutdown of the internet, will not permit
investigations of any kind.
>
> Or perhaps they will let the internet continue so they can guage our
thinking and trace our connections -- more for them to lose by cutting us
off.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Legere
>
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?
>
> It's amazing what a little awareness can do huh?
>
> mikemeyer1964 <mike.meyer@asm.com> wrote:
>
> With all of the saber rattling with Iran, I had the following
> thought. I believe that the 911 Truth Movement has been successful in
> one key area. While we have not broken through to main stream
> America, I believe that we have created enough awareness about 911
> that the gov't has to really think twice before they can stage another
> False Flag event.
>
> The gov't has gotten away with covering up 911 to date, in part
> because they effectively created a cover story and destroyed the
> evidence very quickly. With enough people aware of what our gov't is
> capable of now, if they try another False Flag, there will be a lot of
> people recording every news station and outlet; video and still
> camera's everywhere, and a lot more people asking a lot more questions
> right after the event. It will be more difficult to cover up
> evidence. I was curious as to everyone's thoughts on what I would
> call a small success for the movement.
>
>
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Message 8
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:20am(PDT)
Subject: Re: It appears that your blocking my posts - with no notice

Leslie Schwartz is male. I know him from several other groups.

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From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jolly Roger
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 6:04 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Re: It appears that your blocking my posts -
with no notice

she may be an idiot, but I'm a bit more certain she's a troll who is
dedicated to stifling discussion about the zionist's role in 9-11, and blame
everything on Bush. I think that's their new strategy now that much of
American knows the truth. If they're succesful a few low-level heads will
roll, but there will be no real change, and all of our efforts will be in
vain. People must see that this is much bigger than just a few American
criminals. Your website is important because it exposes people behind the
scenes (Rothschilds -- Zionists) who would be perfectly happy to sacrifice a
few patsies to remain in control.

Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:
thsi woman is obviously a pea brained idiot/MORON Jolly. She does not even
deserve a response. Both Naveed and myself have already pointed her errors
out to her with absolutely no response but to further her propaganda
dribble.

In The name of Christ Jesus,

Kevin
www.fightthenwo.org <http://www.fightthenwo.org/>

Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote:
First of all, Leslie, I didn't block anything. Secondly, I didn't say/write
anythjing rascist, and if you think I did, you need to work on your reading
comprehension skills. Thirdly, this practice of accusing everyone who
discusses Israel of being rascist or anti-semitic is exactly what the
criminals have always done to divert the attention from their crimes, onto
those who expose them.
I also never "presumed that Jewish people are going to hide their identity
because you or others do not respect them," -- I merely stated that I know
three Jewish people who did hide their ethnicity. You should learn how to
read before you start responding to my (or anyone's ) posts.
The only one who brought up anything racist was you, and the fact you scream
"racism" as a ploy to end all discussion of crimes committed by Israelis, or
Zionists, makes me glad someone booted you, because you're probably working
for the enemy if you're so quick to employ their standard tactics.

Leslie Schwartz <lhs_emf@pacbell.net> wrote:
Unfortunately that is about what I expected.

Your allowing racist comments to be posted and I recall you have made
such statements yourself (presuming that Jewish people are going to
hide their identity because you or others do not respect them), and
further if you are blocking my posts as it appears, it just proves to
me that your cowards and can't stand to have your biases questioned.

The sort of posts you ARE allowing are going to cause great harm to
the 9/11 truth movment, most of this anti-jewish crap has nothing to
do with 9/11, but it shows where your minds are at.

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Message 9
From: "Quechick Barnyard" quechick007@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:53am(PDT)
Subject: (no subject)

Let's all support Senator Byrd, the Neo-cons are
sending their troops to his state, they are desparate
to keep the congress, they will stop at nothing to
keep it.

Dig for a few dollars, and help a real statesman stay
in office. This is very important, they will be
looking for their most vulneralbe to get rid of, so
their corrupt machine can step right back in office.

We must prevent that. Keep the good ones and get rid
of the bad ones. This is our mantra.

Collectively we can make a whole lot of difference, so
let's do it!

Regards,

Quechick007@yahoo.com

"Robert C. Byrd" <info@byrd2006.com> View Contact
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To: Quechick007@yahoo.com
Subject: Swift-boating my candidacy
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:51:22 -0700

Dear Theresa J:
During the 2004 Presidential campaign, the country saw
a good and decent man smeared and tarred with
scurrilous claims and false attacks. John Kerry, who
served this country with distinction -- winning three
Purple Hearts and a Silver Star for his valor -- was
smeared by a shameful attack on his record.

The "Swift Boat" campaign that tarred John Kerry
brought dishonor to the GOP campaign consultants who
created it. The Washington Post said their ads
"crossed the line." Republican Senator John McCain
called their tactics "dishonest and dishonorable."

Those same DC consultants were recently hired by a
Republican Senate candidate in West Virginia, who will
undoubtedly try to "Swift Boat" my re-election
campaign with falsehoods and innuendo.

Don't let them "Swift Boat" Robert C. Byrd.

I have always stood up for my beliefs, and I have
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Please help Senator Byrd defend himself.

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Support Senator Byrd today.

In order to counter the lies and deceptions that the
"Swift Boat" team will hurl at me, I will need your
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Message 10
From: "Quechick Barnyard" quechick007@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:54am(PDT)
Subject: (no subject)

Let's all support Senator Byrd, the Neo-cons are
sending their troops to his state, they are desparate
to keep the congress, they will stop at nothing to
keep it.

We must prevent that. Keep the good ones and get rid
of the bad ones. This is our mantra.

Collectively we can make a whole lot of difference, so
let's do it!

Regards,

Quechick007@yahoo.com

Those same DC consultants were recently hired by a
Republican Senate candidate in West Virginia, who will
undoubtedly try to "Swift Boat" my re-election
campaign with falsehoods and innuendo.

Don't let them "Swift Boat" Robert C. Byrd.

I have always stood up for my beliefs, and I have
never run from a fight. I will stand fast for what I
believe. But I will need your help now, more than
ever.

Please help Senator Byrd defend himself.

Support Senator Byrd today.

Sincerely,

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Message 11
From: "Quechick Barnyard" quechick007@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:04am(PDT)
Subject: (no subject)

Let's all support Senator Byrd, the Neo-cons are
sending their troops to his state, they are desparate
to keep the congress, they will stop at nothing to
keep it.

We must prevent that. Keep the good ones and get rid
of the bad ones. This is our mantra.

Collectively we can make a whole lot of difference, so
let's do it!

Regards,

Quechick007@yahoo.com

Those same DC consultants were recently hired by a
Republican Senate candidate in West Virginia, who will
undoubtedly try to "Swift Boat" my re-election
campaign with falsehoods and innuendo.

Don't let them "Swift Boat" Robert C. Byrd.

I have always stood up for my beliefs, and I have
never run from a fight. I will stand fast for what I
believe. But I will need your help now, more than
ever.

Please help Senator Byrd defend himself.

Support Senator Byrd today.

Sincerely,

Robert C. Byrd
United States Senator

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Message 12
From: "Bugs" brawny@twlakes.net
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:21am(PDT)
Subject: gas

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Americans have cut back gasoline use in apparent response to increasing prices, separate surveys by the government and a petroleum trade organization showed Wednesday.
Gas use last month was 0.6% less than a year ago, the American Petroleum Institute reported, because "high fuel prices have led to decreased demand for gasoline and other refined oil products."

The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) said gasoline use the past four weeks was up a slight 0.6% vs. a year ago. Typical is an increase of 1.5%, and that's the growth rate assumed in many industry, analyst and government forecasts.

Cutting back just a little more could cause gasoline prices — which average $2.801 nationwide, up 57.7 cents from last year, according to motorist organization AAA — to drop dramatically, one veteran analyst says.

"If everyone decided to drive 3% less the next 30 days, prices would crash," says Tom Kloza, senior analyst at the Oil Price Information Service.

He doubts that Americans could manage that — "We know how well appeals to personal sacrifice work" — but still foresees less-than-normal growth in gasoline consumption this year.

"There's a point where it really hurts," he says. "There could be a little more carpooling, and there will be. It's approaching the point where that could happen."

Gasoline is made from oil, and oil prices are setting daily records this week, closing at $72.17 a barrel Wednesday, up 82 cents from Tuesday's close. Oil would have to top $86.99 to set an inflation-adjusted record.

Fuel conservation might be short-lived. For one thing, prices are likely to drop. EIA says, "Significant increases in gasoline production ... over the next several weeks should stem the rise in gasoline prices and may, actually, cause them to decline somewhat."

EIA says, "While the average U.S. price of regular gasoline could reach $3 per gallon sometime this year, that outcome is by no means a foregone conclusion."

History shows that as long as gasoline is available, at whatever price, Americans tend to adjust to the price and resume their previous driving habits.

"There's definitely some evidence of consumers adjusting," says Rakesh Shankar, an economist who watches energy for Moody's Economy.com.

Last time gasoline consumption dropped significantly was September, because of high prices and spot shortages caused by Hurricane Katrina's damage to energy operations in the Gulf of Mexico.

Demand continued to slide for a while after that, but it does so routinely in the fall and winter. So it's difficult to separate Katrina-sparked conservation from seasonal patterns.

Contributing: Barbara Hagenbaugh

Blame bush and cheney for America failure..

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Message 13
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:25am(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

Kitty -- if someone's not receptive to the info move on -- some people simply don't want to know the truth. Try to convinve one or two people close to you so you have someone to work with. And since the mainstream media has already convinced them that you're crazy for suggesting such a thing, it might be wise to first discredit the MSM by exposing some of their other lies, and that might pave the way to having a more receptive 9-11 Truth audience.

kitty285 <kitty285@charter.net> wrote: Kevin,im trying to work the Bible Belt without my head blown off by a red
neck !!
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Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:30 PM
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Message 14
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:47am(PDT)
Subject: Re: 9/11 Addiction

This is a good idea, Mr. Botalerts, and I think Cathy mentioned it once in the past. For a "Truth Community" (I wouldn't limit it to 9-11, because we've been lied to about almost everything, and we need to appeal to a broader "market") to emerge, what's needed first is a visible symbol that identifies us, which will also allow people to feel as though they belong to a larger group (which is important to most humans). Sometimes I wear un upside-down American flag pin, which I believe is being naturally adopted by others because of its meaning. (backdrop of Kevin's interviews, for instance, and I've also seen the inverted flag flying on a pole) This might also induce people to ask you questions, which will open the door for you to explain things to them.
Since the 9-11 Truth Movement has been branded by the MSM as being a bunch of lunatics, many people will stay away for that reason, but if a more general truth movement attempted to expose the media as being a lying propaganda machine, people who are resistant to 9-11 truth will be able to join for other issues (downing street memo, vote fraud, WMD, etc. etc.) and will come to accept 9-11 Truth over time. This is why I (and others) was trying to join the truth movement with the vote fraud movement after the 2004 election.
I'm going to start wearing my flag pin upside down every day.

botalerts <botalerts@yahoo.ca> wrote:
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Message 15
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:06am(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

Kitty - Scott has an excellent approach here, but since I work with New Yorkers instead of rednecks, lately I've been saying things like "you're a naive idiot if you believe that bullshit," and other similarly offensive remarks. (maybe I'm becoming angry at the fools) Another new approach of mine is to mention in a list the Luiatania, the Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin, and Pearl harbor and say "They pull the same trick before every war, and the American people are still dumb enough to keep falling for it."

Scott Peden <scotpeden@cruzio.com> wrote:

v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Working rednecks huh? I have a pretty good handle on them.

I don’t tell them nuthin, I ask them things like, They really think that we believe 3 buildings came down when only 2 planes hit ad the fire wasn’t hot enough to do a brush burn! (just a statement) but if you can make a statement them say, they really think we are that stupid, don’t they? That tactic works wonders. No one wants to be called stupid.

When I get my rare cups of coffee the newspaper stand is right next to me, I take every advantage to say something like, did you see in this paper that they said this BS? What do they take us for, idiots? And do the question statement thing, get my coffee and get the hell outta there, cause they are now thinking. On a good day I can have all within earshot talking about this, and I don’t mean whispering and I do this in the republican sewn up area of my county. In under a year, even the Bush/Cheney people will not attack 9/11 comments and many will say, someone must be threatening our pResident or he’d do something about this!

I never say what they have to believe, I make a semi statement of fact, and then ask questions. The moment you take a solid stance, they can shut you off and they can just deny anything you say, so I ask them for their opinion, or say “You believes this and that , don’t you? After all, you don’t look as stupid as those folks seem to think we voters are” That is, ask a question and make them right and note that they aren’t idiots, even of you may personally think they are.

At the very least, it is progress and without that, we’re all dead if we’re lucky and if not luck, we’d indentured servitude in the work force prison of choice of the Multi nationals.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 6:54 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

Kevin,im trying to work the Bible Belt without my head blown off by a red
neck !!
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Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:30 PM
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Message 16
From: "Jolly Roger" slicingthroats@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:09am(PDT)
Subject: Re: It appears that your blocking my posts - with no notice

Aha -- a crypto male (lol) Using a feminine first name and screaming like a girl to generate sympathy.

Scott Peden <scotpeden@cruzio.com> wrote:

v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Leslie Schwartz is male. I know him from several other groups.

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From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jolly Roger
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 6:04 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Re: It appears that your blocking my posts - with no notice

she may be an idiot, but I'm a bit more certain she's a troll who is dedicated to stifling discussion about the zionist's role in 9-11, and blame everything on Bush. I think that's their new strategy now that much of American knows the truth. If they're succesful a few low-level heads will roll, but there will be no real change, and all of our efforts will be in vain. People must see that this is much bigger than just a few American criminals. Your website is important because it exposes people behind the scenes (Rothschilds -- Zionists) who would be perfectly happy to sacrifice a few patsies to remain in control.

Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:
thsi woman is obviously a pea brained idiot/MORON Jolly. She does not even deserve a response. Both Naveed and myself have already pointed her errors out to her with absolutely no response but to further her propaganda dribble.

In The name of Christ Jesus,

Kevin
www.fightthenwo.org

Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote:

First of all, Leslie, I didn't block anything. Secondly, I didn't say/write anythjing rascist, and if you think I did, you need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Thirdly, this practice of accusing everyone who discusses Israel of being rascist or anti-semitic is exactly what the criminals have always done to divert the attention from their crimes, onto those who expose them.
I also never "presumed that Jewish people are going to hide their identity because you or others do not respect them," -- I merely stated that I know three Jewish people who did hide their ethnicity. You should learn how to read before you start responding to my (or anyone's ) posts.
The only one who brought up anything racist was you, and the fact you scream "racism" as a ploy to end all discussion of crimes committed by Israelis, or Zionists, makes me glad someone booted you, because you're probably working for the enemy if you're so quick to employ their standard tactics.

Leslie Schwartz <lhs_emf@pacbell.net> wrote:

Unfortunately that is about what I expected.

The sort of posts you ARE allowing are going to cause great harm to
the 9/11 truth movment, most of this anti-jewish crap has nothing to
do with 9/11, but it shows where your minds are at.

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Message 17
From: "angela mvbride" fourddream@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:22am(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

Hi,
Angie here, new to this group, that's a lot of mail to read!
Do you all know the initiative to write webadresses on banknotes (as long as there is still cash to do it with). Every note that passes through your hands put a truth site adress on it before you spend it. Money Talks!

Jolly Roger <slicingthroats@yahoo.com> wrote:
Kitty -- if someone's not receptive to the info move on -- some people simply don't want to know the truth. Try to convinve one or two people close to you so you have someone to work with. And since the mainstream media has already convinced them that you're crazy for suggesting such a thing, it might be wise to first discredit the MSM by exposing some of their other lies, and that might pave the way to having a more receptive 9-11 Truth audience.

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Message 18
From: "Scott" sledger911@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:25am(PDT)
Subject: STOP ratcheting up the fear!

Every day I go to this group I read dozens of messages from "pros"
who have it all figured out! They get into territorial pissing
matches with each other over who is right or wrong about this and
that! I have never seen so much testosterone on a message board
before! Don't you get it? The way to save this god forsaken country
is UNITY!

The human EGO is the machine that has driven us all since we were
tiny. It is the mechanism that drives us...BUT... It is also exactly
what CREATES Despots!!!!!!!! Hitler, Bush, Genghis Khan ...
A L L of THEM!

You want change????

Put your Ego's aside, grab hold of the human spirit that is buried
deep inside you and turn it on! STOP living in your friggin EGO's!!!

Hell, smoke some pot or something...what ever it takes for us to

L O O S E T H E F E A R !

ARMIGEDDON MY A S S ! Do you think for one moment that if a nuke
goes off anywhere on Earth you will get up, go to work, and pay your
taxes? If these assholes set off a nuke, it's game over... People
unplug THEMSELVES from this crap and lead peaceful productive lives,
either in small groups or larger communities... That's not exactly
what these morons are trying to accomplish now is it?

Be THE L I G H T! that's what YOU ARE whether you know that or not.

Ledge

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Message 19
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:38am(PDT)
Subject: Re: It appears that your blocking my posts - with no notice

Leslie has an opinion…… nicest way I can put it.

He is taking the Dem party apart without effectively giving a replacement.
He is right in the fact that the Dems are the other face of the Repo’s ad as
a coin they generally vote against ‘we the people’ and have for many a long
decade now. But he cases most everyone away in any thing he does.

Sorry, jolly, You and Kevin weren’t that special and I seriously doubt he is
a disinformation agent, you just responded to his posts.

Unfortunately, in the three groups I have been with him in, he is a
disruptor, covered by ‘passion’. He may be smart, but not smart enough to
get people to listen to his ideas. Hopefully none of us suffer to
extensively from that.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jolly Roger
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:09 AM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] Re: It appears that your blocking my posts -
with no notice

Aha -- a crypto male (lol) Using a feminine first name and screaming like a
girl to generate sympathy.

Scott Peden <scotpeden@cruzio.com> wrote:
Leslie Schwartz is male. I know him from several other groups.

In The name of Christ Jesus,

Kevin
www.fightthenwo.org <http://www.fightthenwo.org/>

Leslie Schwartz <lhs_emf@pacbell.net> wrote:
Unfortunately that is about what I expected.

The sort of posts you ARE allowing are going to cause great harm to
the 9/11 truth movment, most of this anti-jewish crap has nothing to
do with 9/11, but it shows where your minds are at.

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hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken
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Message 20
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:47am(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

Jolly,

I’d try to be inclusive and change your statement to “They must
think we are naïve Idiots that believe their Bullshit!!”. As now they want
to hear what you have to say, as you just created a bit of mystery.

Just make sure your statement includes them in the intelligence
category, rather than alienating them with a “you’re a stupid dolt” opening
comment. You might get loads of people that like to are and you can have
affine argument that way, but I’d escape from you as fast as possible as
your mind is made up and that leaves no room for me other than to just
blindly agree. And I’m just a piss poor dittohead.

Of course, I’m not a Nyer, I never want to be and you may have a
completely different social structure than I have ever come across.

God one, adding in the Luiatania, The Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin and Pearl
Harbor. Yes, they may think that those were the way the Psy Ops wanted them
to believe, but to start out vocalizing that you doubt YOUR NY’ers are as
stupid as those that fell for those ruses, they want to know what is the
popular thought and be in the ‘smart/correct category of people.

I work the Bush Cheney Repo’s the same way I work the rednecks. I talk to
them like they are smart enough and educated enough to be aware of what I am
aware and I am willing to not know it all, let them contribute, ask them
more questions, then ask them if they know something else I know. I have
reversed many a Bush Neo Con ditto head, given enough time to ask these
questions over time and not be threatening. Sooner than later I hear them
originate stuff like that. Maybe they started thinking it through for
themselves, or I have filled the empty vessel with my data before the Gov
filled it with their data.

I love that hit and run phraseology, ‘they must think we are idiots to
believe this or that’ and if someone wants a conversation, they’ll ask, but
the white processed sugar/Nutrasweet aka Aspartime/corn syrup sedations that
make people so willing to take in what ever they are told and to not
question the data, works both ways. WE too can just tell them what they
should be thinking, as long as we don’t alienate them in the opening
comment.

If those of us under the influence of these Government subsidized sweeteners
will believe what the government tells them, they’ll believe what anyone
tells them if you phrase it to make them think they are smart and educated
and have thought this through for themselves. Psy Ops is double edged, if
you can isolate the Psy Ops and use it yourself, and this works.

-----Original Message-----
From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jolly Roger
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:06 AM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?

Kitty - Scott has an excellent approach here, but since I work with New
Yorkers instead of rednecks, lately I've been saying things like "you're a
naive idiot if you believe that bullshit," and other similarly offensive
remarks. (maybe I'm becoming angry at the fools) Another new approach of
mine is to mention in a list the Luiatania, the Maine, the Gulf of Tonkin,
and Pearl harbor and say "They pull the same trick before every war, and the
American people are still dumb enough to keep falling for it."

Scott Peden <scotpeden@cruzio.com> wrote:
Working rednecks huh? I have a pretty good handle on them.

At the very least, it is progress and without that, we’re all dead if we’re
lucky and if not luck, we’d indentured servitude in the work force prison of
choice of the Multi nationals.

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hoist the black flag, and start slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken

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Message 21
From: "Scott Peden" scotpeden@cruzio.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:54am(PDT)
Subject: Re: How successful has the 911 truth movement been?

I agree strongly with Jolly here. The MSM is a Multi National Mega
Corporation.

I make gains when I can consult peoples understanding using things like

To get elected a politician needs a huge war chest. The big politicians get
at least 60% of their funding from not just corporations, but Multi National
Mega Corporations who have no allegiance to the USA, they just have an
office here so they can influence where we send our military to protect
their business’s.

Pick some discredited News Stories, or say things like, I guess we will
never again have reporters like those that discredited Nixon by exposing
Watergate. Then they are all ears, what gossip do you have and it better be
entertaining enough to hold their attention.

Don’t let those who refuse to do any research or ask constructive questions
suck up your energies. I am sure you feel outnumbered where you are. Try
some hit and run tactics like I use in the coffee shop line while next to
the news stand. Say something intelligent that exposes their lies and smile
at anyone that makes eye contact. Everyone else then thinks that they too
know what you said and it becomes not only safe, but popular to talk about
what you just broke the ice on.

I could spend all day going to one place after another and where there is a
quiet enough crowd as “Did our government ever tell us why 3 buildings fell
in their own foot print when the third one wasn’t even hit by a plane much
less it was 2 buildings away? When a couple people look up, I ask, is it
true that that building is the one that had all the financial records to
show where all those Billions of dollars disappeared to? No one may answer,
they get to pick their own boogey man, but you have just turned them way
from the official story cause they are having to think on their own rather
than repeat what they have been told is the truth,, and you haven’t
committed them to speak this in public. Eventually it will become safe
enough to have discussions about this without being looked at as the lone
nut in the crowd.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jolly Roger
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:25 AM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
been?

Kitty -- if someone's not receptive to the info move on -- some people
simply don't want to know the truth. Try to convinve one or two people close
to you so you have someone to work with. And since the mainstream media has
already convinced them that you're crazy for suggesting such a thing, it
might be wise to first discredit the MSM by exposing some of their other
lies, and that might pave the way to having a more receptive 9-11 Truth
audience.

kitty285 <kitty285@charter.net> wrote:
Kevin,im trying to work the Bible Belt without my head blown off by a red
neck !!
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Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] How successful has the 911 truth movement
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Message 22
From: "reggie501" reggie501@optonline.net
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:58am(PDT)
Subject: 9/11 update 4/20 tvnl news

9/11 News : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#911

· When I Realized That There Was More to the Story - Just keep this in
mind: when you finally realize that the world is not what it appears
to be, nothing will change. Only your understanding of reality will
change. The only way that we can indeed change the world is if
everyone quickly changed their perception and understanding of the
world! We are running out of time. Would you rather be in a position
to say "they tried to warn me and I didn't listen", or would you
rather be in a position to say "we did it; we woke up our fellow
citizens!"

· September 11th Live Show Unveils the Mysteries at San Diego Campus -
"9/11 Mysteries: Legend or Logic?", a multimedia presentation by The
9/11 Roadies, connects the how's, why's and wherefores of the
September 11th picture. This will be the last live presentation of the
acclaimed show which is about to be released as a DVD due to popular
demand.

· September 11th Live Show Unveils the Mysteries at San Diego Campus -
Acclaimed live audio-visual show revealing evidence regarding the
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Tuesday April 25, 2006 at 7 pm. Admission is free, Sponsored by SDSU
Heartprints and 911Mysteries.com.

· Chronicle Hit Piece Says "Whole Country" Saw Plane Hit Pentagon! - A
San Francisco Chronicle hit piece which purports to tell 'the truth
about 9/11 conspiracy theories' dismisses questions about what
happened at the Pentagon by saying that the whole country witnessed
the site of a plane flying into the building. The only problem with
that statement is that nobody outside of the FBI has seen anything fly
into the Pentagon save a few grainy frames from a security camera
which the Pentagon doesn't even validate.

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Message 23
From: "Scott" sledger911@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:03am(PDT)
Subject: We are ALL to blame...every American

And Oh yea! Dems. Cons. Libs. Mods. WHATEVER! We all have been
asleep at the wheel for DECADES ... hell centuries. We are all to
blame for the shape the world is in. WE allowed it ... every Bomb,
missile, plane, bullet, that is made, has ONE purpose

Here's a hint, it's not about a macho Tom Cruise movie where the
Top Gun saves us from the terrible bad guys.

They are made to kill... we allow there manufacture, WE invest in
their companies, we collect their stock dividends. We sell the
plastic toys of fighter planes to our kids, we purchase the video
games that show that killing is the solution... ZIONISTS can't exist
unless we play their game, and my truth seeking friends your finger
of blame should be turned inward.

I was SO asleep at the wheel, I actually had that embedded war
coverage on my friggin TV when I was hosting a Christmas party at my
house.

A TRUE MOMENT OF SHAME IN MY LIFE.

It's not the Jews or the Germans, It's not The Muslims or the
Christians, It's not the Neocons!! We need to accept the truth.

When we come through the darkness and emerge on the other side to
begin anew. We will ALL hold are heads in S H A M E for what has
been done to others in our name.

I know I do

Ledge

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