That is cool, thanks!
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Ed Barner
<edwinatlcom.net@...> wrote:
>
> Kick ass thermite video.
> http://thewebfairy.com/911/binaries/thermite.wmv
>
>
> truthinmichigan wrote:
>
> > Thermite produces a buttload of heat and intense blue-whiteish light.
> > If you set Thermite going to work away at the structure you'd see the
> > equivalent of an arc-welder light filtering through any cracks.
> > People evacuating would see it. It also takes time. It's not instant
> > like cutter charges. They use thermite sticks -- the stuff even burns
> > under water -- to cut pilings, but it is like a cutting torch. And
> > you'd surely set adjacent materials aflame everywhere it was used.
> >
> > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Finally!! Thermite enters the WTC discussion.
> > > Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:35:31 -0500
> > > From: <naserian@>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Commentary on Killtown's piece*
> > > *from Michael Rivero:*
> > > *www.WhatReallyHappened.com* <http://www.WhatReallyHappened.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > 9/11 Rescuer Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby
> > >
> >
<http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/02/911-rescuer-saw-explosions-inside-wtc.html>
> >
> > >
> > > Posted *Feb 11, 2006 08:36 AM
> > >
<http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_911.html#042766>* PST
> > > Category: 911
<http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_911.html>
> > >
> > > Okay, the time has come to clarify things a bit.
> > >
> > > While it is impossible to discount the possibility that some form of
> > > "assistance" such as *thermite* was used to initiate the collapse of
> > the
> > > towers and WTC7, the explosions on the basements and lobbies of the
> > > buildings have a benign explanation.
> > >
> > > Remember that two passenger jets full of aviation kerosene
crashed into
> > > the buildings. Contrary to the official story of pooling on the
impact
> > > floors, all the kerosene that did not immediately flash into orange
> > > flame poured down elevator and ventilation shafts to the lowest
levels
> > > in the building, particlizing on the long drop down. Upon
finding any
> > > source of ignition, the kerosene mist would explode. The
buildings all
> > > shared a common basement and parking areas, so that burning
kerosene in
> > > the basement of one building would drive smoke across and up
into the
> > > other buildings. As the towers and WTC7 collapsed, air driven into
> > their
> > > elevator and ventilation shafts into those shared underground
passages
> > > would blow huge billows of smoke out of the other buildings.
> > >
> > > The reason not to get tied up with reports of explosions in the
> > > basements and lobbies is because anything planted in the
buildings to
> > > trigger a collapse would have been planted at the initial points of
> > > failure. And, considering the attention being focused on the
events of
> > > 9-11, /*the planners would not use explosives that would produce
> > > suspicious noise and flashes.*/ The collapse would have to be
triggered
> > > with a minimum of visible and audible artifacts, so rather than
> > > explosives, a "cutter" such as *thermite *would have been used to
> > weaken
> > > load bearing members.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Betonamit" "DEXPAN" and "Bristar" and " Fract.AG expansive
mortar "
> > > are all "*/explosives that would produce suspicious noise and
> > > flashes." /* As a matter of fact, they do not even explode. These
> > > substances as marketed as non-explosive alternatives to
fracturing rock
> > > of re-inforced concrete. Just drill a hole, place the powder in and
> > then
> > > add water -- via a sprinkle system or carefully placed hoses.
Then run
> > > for dear life.
> > >
> > > Depending on the type of SCDA(Soundless chemical demolition
agents),
> > > significant expansive pressure may be generated as quickly as
within 15
> > > min., or as long as within 24 hr.
> > > http://www.new-technologies.org/ECT/Civil/soundche.htm
> > >
> > > Soundless chemical-demolition agents (SCDAs) ? These come in powder
> > form
> > > and are mixed with water to form a slurry, which is inserted in
> > > boreholes in rock or concrete. The main component of SCDAs is
calcium
> > > oxide, which forms calcium hydroxide when water is added. The
resulting
> > > volatile reaction creates heat, and as the material crystallizes
within
> > > the rock, it causes a threefold increase in volume. Tensile
fracturing
> > > may occur within 10-15 minutes or up to 24 hours. Although
inhibitors
> > > can be added to retard the chemical reaction and increase
control over
> > > the process, the technique is still primitive, and its actual
field use
> > > has been quite limited. SCDAs have generally been used only where
> > > blasting is prohibited, and will eliminate flyrock, noise,
fumes, and
> > > vibrations associated with blasting. SCDAs have been used
underwater in
> > > Seattle to remove bridge piers from docks and to avoid blasting
> > close to
> > > shore. The high cost of SCDAs and some bad experiences in
controlling
> > > the pre-splitting have caused the Corps of Engineers to limit its
> > use of
> > > the expansive agents.
> > > [Source: /Civil Engineering /magazine, March 1990]
> > > BRISTAR is a chemical-demolition agent designed for various
temperature
> > > ranges, and has been used for several Reclamation projects. It
> > generally
> > > requires holes from 1½-2 inches in diameter spaced less than 2 feet
> > apart.
> > >
> > >
> > > The south tower, WTC 2, which had been hit second, was the first to
> > > suffer a complete structural collapse at 10:05am, 62 minutes after
> > being
> > > hit itself, 80 minutes after the first impact.
> > > The north tower, WTC 1, then also collapsed at 10:29am, 104 minutes
> > > after being hit.
> > > http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/World_Trade_Center.html
> > >
> > > *Collapse times
> > > South Tower -- 80 minutes, approx one and a half hours
> > > North tower -- 104 minutes, approx two hours*
> > >
> > > Greater Baton Rouge Business Report - *November 1, 1990*
> > > *Diana Armstrong* knew a good opportunity when she saw it. She ran
> > > across the product last year at a trade show and now she is
> > distributing
> > > Betonamit in some 20 states, Canada, Mexico and the Virgin Islands.
> > > Representatives of *Kubatec, the European company that makes the
> > > Betonamit powder*, were looking for an American investor. At the
time,
> > > the product was widely used in Europe, but it had not been
> > introduced to
> > > the United States.
> > > Armstrong said she researched the company, visited its *lab in
> > > Liechtenstein* and tested the product before buying into the idea.
> > > <snip>
> > > "Louisiana doesn't have any rock," she said. "I had to start with
> > places
> > > where there was already an interest in my product, so I started
in the
> > > Northeast."
> > > *For example, one of Betonamit's largest clients is the New York
> > Transit
> > > Authority.
> > > *"The workers are continually making repairs on the subway
system, but
> > > they can't blast. And because they do most of their work from 11
> > p.m. to
> > > 6 a.m., they have to hold down on the noise," Armstrong said.
> > > She has also provided Betonamit to NASA at Cape Canaveral in August
> > > where workers used Betonamit to tear down a submerged concrete
piling
> > > near the base. And in Washington, engineers used the product for a
> > > sensitive job 500 feet underneath a hydroelectric plant.
> > > Although, Armstrong handles some of these special jobs
personally, much
> > > of her business is through distributors.
> > > Her largest distributor is an Ohio hardware salesman who serves as
> > > master distributor in the New England area. She's also established
> > > master distributors in Canada and Mexico.
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > Betonamit's competition is two similar Japanese products sold in the
> > > United States--Bristar and S-Mite. But Armstrong claims the products
> > > lack some of the qualities available with Betonamit.
> > > Betonamit can be used at any temperature, with warmer temperatures
> > > increasing the speed of the expansion process. The reaction exerts
> > up to
> > > 12,000 pounds per square inch of pressure. And depending upon
the size
> > > of the structure and the temperature, *the demolition process
can take
> > > as little as one and a-half hours* or as much as 36 hours, Armstrong
> > said.
> > > Because the product is easy to use and ecologically safe, *Betonamit
> > > requires no license or permit for _use_ or transportation.
> > > *The product comes in two types: Betonamit Type R is the standard
> > liquid
> > > form used to fill vertically drilled holes; Type S is a putty-like,
> > > kneadable mass that can be put into holes drilled overhead and
> > > horizontally, as well as holes in porous or cracked material. It can
> > > also be easily used in underwater applications.
> > > The Japanese products, however, require three to four additives
> > > depending upon the temperature, and they're limited to the
liquid form,
> > > Armstrong said.
> > >
> >
http://www.caribbean7.com/articles/virgin-islands/virgin-islands-article-4290.html
> >
> > > *How utterly convenient is the fact that these non-explosives do not
> > > require permits of any type.
> > > *
> > > *U.S. ANCHOR'S COMPOUNDS FUELING COMPANY GROWTH*
> > > Magazine: South Florida Business Journal, *February 24, 1995*
> > > Though *U.S. Anchor* has an answer for many South Florida
building ills,
> > > *president Hart McIntyre* insists his company doesn't sell
products. "We
> > > sell solutions," he said.
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > The company also has searched the globe for products generally not
> > > available in the states. One is Upat, a line of mechanical anchors.
> > > Another is Kubatec, a European product sold under the name
Betonamit.
> > > When mixed with water, this non-explosive demolition material can
> > > produce 12,000 to 14,000 pounds per square inch of pressure,
effectively
> > > shattering any rock or stone substrate without explosion or
spark. It
> > > may be more expensive than dynamite, McIntyre admitted. But *in
areas
> > > where blasting is unrealistic or will violate restrictions on
noise or
> > > flammability, like hospitals or office buildings, Betonamit is a
viable
> > > alternative.
> > > *"When you're willing to put a pencil to the job-costing
process, this
> > > can be the way to go," he said.
> > >
> >
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:W3_M42esMV4J:mgv.mim.edu.my/Articles/00592/96021835.Htm+kubatec+betonamit&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10
> >
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> > >
> >
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> > >
> > > *When the twin towers collapsed, the Port Authority Trans-Hudson
> > > Corporations WTC commuter rail station underneath the site was
> > > destroyed, along with one unoccupied train.* Also, transit
tunnels and
> > > stations at the site were severely damaged, causing interruption
of MTA
> > > New York City Transit subway service on two lines.
> > > A special commemorative issue of /At Your Service,/ the NYC Transit
> > > employee newsletter, described the damage: nearly 1,400 feet of
subway
> > > tunnels beneath the towers had caved in or had filled with rubble;
> > > utilities had collapsed into the tunnel; columns from the World
Trade
> > > Center had pierced the tunnel roof; and two-thirds of the Cortlandt
> > > Street Station on the WTC site had also given way.
> > > According to NYC Transit President Lawrence G. Reuter, who moderated
> > the
> > > session, the restoration of subway service through Ground Zero
and the
> > > reopening of one of the Rector Street Station in less than nine
months
> > > was one of the most successful subway-infrastructure reconstruction
> > > projects in the systems history.
> > > http://www.apta.com/passenger_transport/thisweek/0930-6.cfm
> > >
> > > *I thought that the third rail on those trains is electrified.
> > > How come there were no spontaneous fires in the vicinity, and most
> > > especially fires involving gas lines?
> > > How come the tunnels were not flooded with water? Who shut off the
> > mains?
> > >
> > > Anyhow, it is very very gratifying to see thermite
> > > (and hopefully later cementitious compunds)
> > > entering the mainstrewam 911 debate.*
> > >
> >
> >
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