Tuesday, February 14, 2006

Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [Fwd: Finally!! Thermite enters the WTC discussion.]

Kick ass thermite video.
http://thewebfairy.com/911/binaries/thermite.wmv


truthinmichigan wrote:
Thermite produces a buttload of heat and intense blue-whiteish light.
If you set Thermite going to work away at the structure you'd see the
equivalent of an arc-welder light filtering through any cracks.
People evacuating would see it.  It also takes time.  It's not instant
like cutter charges.  They use thermite sticks -- the stuff even burns
under water -- to cut pilings, but it is like a cutting torch.  And
you'd surely set adjacent materials aflame everywhere it was used.

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:       Finally!! Thermite enters the WTC discussion.
> Date:       Sun, 12 Feb 2006 22:35:31 -0500
> From:       <naserian@...>
>
>
>
>
> *Commentary on Killtown's piece*
> *from Michael Rivero:*
> *www.WhatReallyHappened.com* <http://www.WhatReallyHappened.com>
> 
>
> 9/11 Rescuer Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby
>
<http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/02/911-rescuer-saw-explosions-inside-wtc.html>

>
> Posted *Feb 11, 2006 08:36 AM
> <http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_911.html#042766>* PST
> Category: 911 <http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_911.html>
>
> Okay, the time has come to clarify things a bit.
>
> While it is impossible to discount the possibility that some form of
> "assistance" such as *thermite* was used to initiate the collapse of
the
> towers and WTC7, the explosions on the basements and lobbies of the
> buildings have a benign explanation.
>
> Remember that two passenger jets full of aviation kerosene crashed into
> the buildings. Contrary to the official story of pooling on the impact
> floors, all the kerosene that did not immediately flash into orange
> flame poured down elevator and ventilation shafts to the lowest levels
> in the building, particlizing on the long drop down. Upon finding any
> source of ignition, the kerosene mist would explode. The buildings all
> shared a common basement and parking areas, so that burning kerosene in
> the basement of one building would drive smoke across and up into the
> other buildings. As the towers and WTC7 collapsed, air driven into
their
> elevator and ventilation shafts into those shared underground passages
> would blow huge billows of smoke out of the other buildings.
>
> The reason not to get tied up with reports of explosions in the
> basements and lobbies is because anything planted in the buildings to
> trigger a collapse would have been planted at the initial points of
> failure. And, considering the attention being focused on the events of
> 9-11, /*the planners would not use explosives that would produce
> suspicious noise and flashes.*/ The collapse would have to be triggered
> with a minimum of visible and audible artifacts, so rather than
> explosives, a "cutter" such as *thermite *would have been used to
weaken
> load bearing members.
>
>
>  "Betonamit" "DEXPAN" and "Bristar" and " Fract.AG expansive mortar "
> are all "*/explosives that would produce suspicious noise and
> flashes." /*  As a matter of fact, they do not even explode. These
> substances as marketed as non-explosive alternatives to fracturing rock
> of re-inforced concrete. Just drill a hole, place the powder in and
then
> add water -- via a sprinkle system or carefully placed hoses. Then run
> for dear life.
>
>  Depending on the type of SCDA(Soundless chemical demolition agents),
> significant expansive pressure may be generated as quickly as within 15
> min., or as long as within 24 hr.
> http://www.new-technologies.org/ECT/Civil/soundche.htm
>
> Soundless chemical-demolition agents (SCDAs) ? These come in powder
form
> and are mixed with water to form a slurry, which is inserted in
> boreholes in rock or concrete. The main component of SCDAs is calcium
> oxide, which forms calcium hydroxide when water is added. The resulting
> volatile reaction creates heat, and as the material crystallizes within
> the rock, it causes a threefold increase in volume. Tensile fracturing
> may occur within 10-15 minutes or up to 24 hours. Although inhibitors
> can be added to retard the chemical reaction and increase control over
> the process, the technique is still primitive, and its actual field use
> has been quite limited. SCDAs have generally been used only where
> blasting is prohibited, and will eliminate flyrock, noise, fumes, and
> vibrations associated with blasting. SCDAs have been used underwater in
> Seattle to remove bridge piers from docks and to avoid blasting
close to
> shore. The high cost of SCDAs and some bad experiences in controlling
> the pre-splitting have caused the Corps of Engineers to limit its
use of
> the expansive agents.
> [Source: /Civil Engineering /magazine, March 1990]
> BRISTAR is a chemical-demolition agent designed for various temperature
> ranges, and has been used for several Reclamation projects. It
generally
> requires holes from 1½-2 inches in diameter spaced less than 2 feet
apart.
>
>
> The south tower, WTC 2, which had been hit second, was the first to
> suffer a complete structural collapse at 10:05am, 62 minutes after
being
> hit itself, 80 minutes after the first impact.
> The north tower, WTC 1, then also collapsed at 10:29am, 104 minutes
> after being hit.
> http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/World_Trade_Center.html
>
> *Collapse times
> South Tower  -- 80 minutes, approx one and a half hours
> North tower  -- 104 minutes, approx two hours*
>
>  Greater Baton Rouge Business Report - *November 1, 1990*
> *Diana Armstrong* knew a good opportunity when she saw it. She ran
> across the product last year at a trade show and now she is
distributing
> Betonamit in some 20 states, Canada, Mexico and the Virgin Islands.
> Representatives of *Kubatec, the European company that makes the
> Betonamit powder*, were looking for an American investor. At the time,
> the product was widely used in Europe, but it had not been
introduced to
> the United States.
> Armstrong said she researched the company, visited its *lab in
> Liechtenstein* and tested the product before buying into the idea.
> <snip>
> "Louisiana doesn't have any rock," she said. "I had to start with
places
> where there was already an interest in my product, so I started in the
> Northeast."
> *For example, one of Betonamit's largest clients is the New York
Transit
> Authority.
> *"The workers are continually making repairs on the subway system, but
> they can't blast. And because they do most of their work from 11
p.m. to
> 6 a.m., they have to hold down on the noise," Armstrong said.
> She has also provided Betonamit to NASA at Cape Canaveral in August
> where workers used Betonamit to tear down a submerged concrete piling
> near the base. And in Washington, engineers used the product for a
> sensitive job 500 feet underneath a hydroelectric plant.
> Although, Armstrong handles some of these special jobs personally, much
> of her business is through distributors.
> Her largest distributor is an Ohio hardware salesman who serves as
> master distributor in the New England area. She's also established
> master distributors in Canada and Mexico.
> <snip>
>
> Betonamit's competition is two similar Japanese products sold in the
> United States--Bristar and S-Mite. But Armstrong claims the products
> lack some of the qualities available with Betonamit.
> Betonamit can be used at any temperature, with warmer temperatures
> increasing the speed of the expansion process. The reaction exerts
up to
> 12,000 pounds per square inch of pressure. And depending upon the size
> of the structure and the temperature, *the demolition process can take
> as little as one and a-half hours* or as much as 36 hours, Armstrong
said.
> Because the product is easy to use and ecologically safe, *Betonamit
> requires no license or permit for _use_ or transportation.
> *The product comes in two types: Betonamit Type R is the standard
liquid
> form used to fill vertically drilled holes; Type S is a putty-like,
> kneadable mass that can be put into holes drilled overhead and
> horizontally, as well as holes in porous or cracked material. It can
> also be easily used in underwater applications.
> The Japanese products, however, require three to four additives
> depending upon the temperature, and they're limited to the liquid form,
> Armstrong said.
>
http://www.caribbean7.com/articles/virgin-islands/virgin-islands-article-4290.html

> *How utterly convenient is the fact that these non-explosives do not
> require permits of any type.
> *
> *U.S. ANCHOR'S COMPOUNDS FUELING COMPANY GROWTH*
> Magazine: South Florida Business Journal, *February 24, 1995* 
> Though *U.S. Anchor* has an answer for many South Florida building ills,
> *president Hart McIntyre* insists his company doesn't sell products. "We
> sell solutions," he said.
> <snip>
>
> The company also has searched the globe for products generally not
> available in the states. One is Upat, a line of mechanical anchors.
> Another is Kubatec, a European product sold under the name Betonamit.
> When mixed with water, this non-explosive demolition material can
> produce 12,000 to 14,000 pounds per square inch of pressure, effectively
> shattering any rock or stone substrate without explosion or spark. It
> may be more expensive than dynamite, McIntyre admitted. But *in areas
> where blasting is unrealistic or will violate restrictions on noise or
> flammability, like hospitals or office buildings, Betonamit is a viable
> alternative.
> *"When you're willing to put a pencil to the job-costing process, this
> can be the way to go," he said.
>
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:W3_M42esMV4J:mgv.mim.edu.my/Articles/00592/96021835.Htm+kubatec+betonamit&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10

>
<http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:W3_M42esMV4J:mgv.mim.edu.my/Articles/00592/96021835.Htm+kubatec+betonamit&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10>
>
> *When the twin towers collapsed, the Port Authority Trans-Hudson
> Corporations WTC commuter rail station underneath the site was
> destroyed, along with one unoccupied train.* Also, transit tunnels and
> stations at the site were severely damaged, causing interruption of MTA
> New York City Transit subway service on two lines.
> A special commemorative issue of /At Your Service,/ the NYC Transit
> employee newsletter, described the damage: nearly 1,400 feet of subway
> tunnels beneath the towers had caved in or had filled with rubble;
> utilities had collapsed into the tunnel; columns from the World Trade
> Center had pierced the tunnel roof; and two-thirds of the Cortlandt
> Street Station on the WTC site had also given way.
> According to NYC Transit President Lawrence G. Reuter, who moderated
the
> session, the restoration of subway service through Ground Zero and the
> reopening of one of the Rector Street Station in less than nine months
> was one of the most successful subway-infrastructure reconstruction
> projects in the systems history.
>  http://www.apta.com/passenger_transport/thisweek/0930-6.cfm
>
> *I thought that the third rail on those trains is electrified.
> How come there were no spontaneous fires in the vicinity, and most
> especially fires involving gas lines?
> How come the tunnels were not flooded with water? Who shut off the
mains?
>
> Anyhow, it is very very gratifying to see thermite
> (and hopefully later cementitious compunds)
> entering the mainstrewam 911 debate.*
>

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