Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Jim Fetzer on today's WING TV

> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Jim Fetzer on today's WING TV
> Datum: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:51:55 -0600

thx for posting this. I'm still continuing my research on all PMs of
911scholars.

So far i heard only 1/3 of today's wing tv show.
strong buffering and my D/L also slow...

first part was an endlesss laudatio against e-voting machines (?), then
cornered by Victor, how his group wants to enter a different level than just
"awareness", Jim tried to distract with another rap on our problems in the
legislative....

i have to give my final opinion about this show,
after i listened to it completely....

> > inphoman911 wrote:
> >> What mass mailing was he referring to?
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Prof. Jones' new CointelPRO follow-up supportive of
> allowing WW4/5?
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:16:17 -0800 (PST)
> From: Nico Haupt <nicohaupt2@yahoo.com>
> To: Nico Haupt <nicohaupt2@yahoo.com>, Gerard Holmgren
> <holmgren@iinet.net.au>, "'Jones, Steven'" <steven_jones@byu.edu>, "jim
> fetzer'" <jfetzer@d.umn.edu>
> CC: 'Morgan Reynolds' <econrn@cox-internet.com>, ''Rosalee Grable'
> <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>, babelmagazine@adelphia.net,
> rmunro@clarku.edu, rmerrill@mica.edu, mcginn@ohio.edu,
> ajohnson@cs.uic.edu, webstertarpley@yahoo.com, apfn@apfn.net,
> wroudy@yahoo.com, jwalter@reopen911.org, chossudovsky@videotron.ca,
> Press@tvnewslies.org, editor@thetruthseeker.co.uk,
> aauaplanes09112001whathappened@yahoo.co.uk, contactus@legitgov.org,
> email@hbuecker.net, contact@rumormillnews.com,
> simon.gray@abovetopsecret.com, Gerhard_Wisnewski_3@compuserve.com,
> skylax@comcast.net, dame.tartine@skynet.be, jiri.kudelka@villusion.cz,
> serendipity@magnet.ch, MPWright9@aol.com, k-robjoe@online.no,
> krsto.herenda@zd.hinet.hr, PlaguePuppy <plaguepuppy@comcast.net>,
> WDoyle5615@aol.com, johnhorneuk@aol.com, bollynkaskel@yahoo.com,
> editor@americanfreepress.net, email@unmask.dk, titus@pacific.net,
> lynnlandes@earthlink.net, mitchelcohen@mindspring.com, Tfaune@aol.com,
> ADuncan282@aol.com, APFN@apfn.org, HQ2600@aol.com,
> wwwatcher2001@yahoo.com, kenvan@comcast.net
>
>
>
> (adding more witnesses to observe the biggest opposition scam since
> 911truth.org and Ruppert-clan)
>
> */Nico Haupt <nicohaupt2@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
> Since the 911Scholars for Truth and WING TV are apparently now the
> most "popular" spokespersons for 'controlled demolition', we should
> expect a critical response of WING TV next week.
>
> But will they?
>
> It's only 10 days away from Greg Nixon's protest tour in NYC and
> both sf911 and wing tv didn't mention any word so far...
>
> What does that mean for all of us?
>
> This is the last chance to send a strong message onto the streets,
> what phoney fake oppositions depends.
>
> WING TV claims on their show, that it follows the highest standard
> of truth,
> but ignored so far the infiltration of sf911, but also all clear
> results on bluescreen fakery of the second alleged commercial
> aircraft hit on sep11th/.
>
> Conclusion:
> Both WING TV and sf911 continue to ignore the biggest
> reality tv fake on sep11th.
>
> Whatever these both entities will think about my letter by now,
> fact is, so called real 'activism' died a long time ago in this
> country.
>
> Cowardice and Double Standards are worse than Blindness or Sabotage,
> but end up in the same ignorance family as well.
>
>
> My own group, ny911truth.org (co-founded in late 2003) was
> infiltrated by Urantia-fellows and cointel-pro assets of
> 911truth.org, to shut down real activism, and many people realized
> that by now BUT still there is silence and ignorance on everything
> else, what i have to say since then.
>
> Maybe because it's closer to the truth than ever before.
>
> We have a pending world war between US, Russia and China and a
> possible
> opener into all this, named Iran. Even without Iran, the big endgame
> is a done deal by now.
>
> But WING TV and sf911 want to convince us, all we have to pray, is
> "controlled demolition" and somehow sheeple will wake up in time.
>
> Means, reality tv will continue, because 9/11 truthlings pray
> cartoon planes.
>
> Nothing disgusted me more in my life than ignorance and pseudo
> intellectualism.
>
> I will continue with my expose on phoneys within sf911 next week.
>
> PS:
> We don't need alleged specialist 'speakers', when veteran 9/11
> research bloggers like killtown find their own smoking guns every
> week- still UNHEARD AS WELL!!!
>
> http://killtown.blogspot.com/
>
>
> 9/11 Rescuer Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby
>
> <http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7508/1605/1600/fdny-emt.jpg>In
> an exclusive Killtown interview, Ground Zero EMT Patricia Ondrovic
> talks about her harrowing day at the WTC on 9/11. Within minutes
> after the South Tower collapses, she witnessed the WTC 5 blowing up,
> cars exploding, and explosions inside the lobby of the WTC 6, all
> the while narrowly escaping with her own life.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> */Nico Haupt <nicohaupt2@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
> (adding 4, 5 more members of the "911Scholars" into this list...)
>
>
> Steven,
>
> since you're not willing to answer, i will add more members of
> your group,
> to show them what kind of coward you are, and
> entertain this CC-list by looking into the background of your PMs.
>
> Let's start today with 4 members (PMs), all for various reasons
> in your group:
>
>
> 1) Dr. Lon Waters
> the military "insider".
>
> A Sandia/DoD -computer engineer for nuclear bomb simulation tests.
> How nice.
> Does Waters know, who developed the unconventional explosives
> for WTC 1, 2?
> Between Livermore, Sandia and his own team a big chance that he
> knows him personally :)
>
> Is he a member for the final phase?
>
> Dr. Lon Waters
> http://www.sandia.gov/media/cancer.htm
> June 5, 1996
>
>
> The cooperation of the Department of Defense, the Air Force's
> Phillips Laboratory, and the University of New Mexico in
> permitting use of the massively parallel Maui machine was
> essential, says Valdez: "The efforts of the entire staff at the
> Maui High Performance Computing Center, especially Dr. Lon
> Waters, an applied mathematician, were crucial."
>
> Sandia National Laboratories is a multiprogram national
> laboratory operated by a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin
> Corporation for the U.S. Department of Energy. With main
> facilities in Albuquerque, N.M., and Livermore, Calif.
>
>
> Member of Xyce software Team
> http://www.sandia.gov/LabNews/LN06-13-03/labnews06-13-03.pdf
>
>
http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:1KgthhR8xDoJ:www.sandia.gov/LabNews/LN06-13-03/labnews06-
>
> 13-03.pdf+Dr.+Lon+Waters+sandia&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2
>
>
> SANDIA LAB NEWS . June 13, 2003 . Page 4
> Sandia's homegrown four-year-old Xyce^(TM)
> software is gaining notice in the world of
> modeling electrical circuits.
>
> Xyce team members:
> Lon Waters (1734),...
> ...(Dep.) 1734 began work on Xyce in July 1999...
>
> ...Version 1.0 was first released in October 2002.
> A second version, 1.1, was released last week.
> Xyce 2.0 will be released in October 2003...
> ...Xyce provides a modern, in-house simulation tool
> on which to build future enhancements
> targeted at the design and analysis needs of
> Sandia's electrical design community.
>
>
> Xyce is the main code of a larger project,
> High Performance Electrical Modeling Simulation
> (HPEMS), funded primarily by DOE's ASCI Application program.
>
>
> http://www.sandia.gov/mstc/products/elect-comp/hpems.html
> High Performance Electrical Modeling
> and Simulation (HPEMS)
> With the elimination of underground nuclear testing and
> declining defense budgets, science-based stockpile stewardship
> requires increased reliance on high performance modeling and
> simulation of weapon systems....
>
> The XyceTM Parallel Electronic Simulator was developed in
> support of electrical designers at Sandia National Laboratories
> and, as such, implemented several novel features that makes
> their job considerably easier...
>
>
>
> 2) John McMurtry
> The leftgatekeeper rebel darling
>
> McMurthy was actually once a respected correspondent of mine.
> I respected him, because he was one of the first, who tried to
> speak out against
> the other gatekeepers at ZMAG. But his role in this bogus
> movement was limited and controlled from the beginning.
>
> Maybe McMurty realised that later too.
>
> He's silent since late 2004.
>
> Before 9/11 he was astrong advocate of monetary reform and vocal
> in the anti-globalization movement
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McMurtry
>
> Then after 9/11, becoming an anti-virus in the left-gatekeeper
> scene against
> Chomski + Co. with his project "DECODING 9-11" (2002)
> http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/decoding911mcmurtry28k.rm
>
> However there was already a plant in this movement to oppose
> them, named
> Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed. He "defactualised" and discredited
> McMurty's work and therefore the coup against leftgatekeepers
> died already late 2002.
> http://www.zmag.org/content/TerrorWar/mcmurty.cfm
>
> Meanwhile McCurty, close to David-Ray Griffin (once working with
> him in seminars on "Cognitive Life Philosophy of Christianity")
> is still cornered, deceived and maybe even manipulated, by
> population controlist front EOLSS, where he is a member from:
>
> http://www.eolss.net/eolss_mission.aspx
> "The Encyclopedia of Life Support Systems (EOLSS)
> "...We are confronted with several warnings emphasizing the
> growing fragility of the Earth's life support systems. ..."
>
> http://www.eolss.net/worldwarning.aspx
> "...# 4. We must reduce and eventually eliminate poverty.
> # 5. We must ensure sexual equality, and guarantee women control
> over their own reproductive decisions...."
>
>
> 3)
> Jean-Pierre_Petit
> The planted "wacko".
>
>
> Maybe Petit is more real than his credibility.
> However his background is so obviuous "controversial", that
> Fetzer's choice
> to pick him for this group, looks like a forthcoming script to
> discredit the same group, if they're not going into the 'same
> direction'.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Pierre_Petit
> Petit is a pioneer in magnetohydrodynamics. He started to work
> on this subject in the 1960s.
> Petit has lost respect from the scientific community because of
> the controversial claims he has made on several controversial
> topics. He claims that aliens from Ummo have sent letters to
> selected people, including himself.
>
> He contends that the US Air Force now has incredibly fast
> aircraft, Aurora, due to secretly conducted research on
> magnetohydrodynamics. Aurora would use a conventional turbofan
> propulsion system, feeded by a MHD controlled hypersonic air
> inlet.And he claims that the US military has a powerful
> antimatter bomb that they successfully detonated on planet
> Jupiter. Because of these views, he has been largely banned from
> the French scientific community.
>
>
> 4) Dr. Andrew Johnson
> The "VR controlled spin" specialist?
>
> Since the bluescreen research of the 9/11-second hit bogus
> videos are becoming too popular and wannabee cripples Eric+
> Brian Salter can't catch up anymore, the 911Scholars have to
> make sure, they add some members to control the spin of this so
> called "outraged theory".
>
> Johnson is not the only computer engineer in 911Scholars, who
> are specialized or experienced with GC/Virtual Reality, Greg
> Lemon (PM) yet another one.
>
> I couldn't figure out yet, if the same Greg Lemon is also member
> of the Nebraska Secretary of State's Office -Sponsored by
> Election Systems & Software, Inc.. because Greg Lemon 1 is from
> Virginia (rendered@hotmail.com)
>
>
> Andrew Johnson Associate Professor
> PhD, Wayne State University, 1994
> Virtual reality, computer graphics, interactive learning
> environments, user interfaces
> ajohnson@cs.uic.edu
>
> http://www.evl.uic.edu/aej/
>
> Electronic Visualization Laboratory
> Computer Science Department (M/C 152)
> University of Illinois at Chicago
>
> Wayne State University, 1994
> Virtual reality, computer graphics, interactive learning
> environments, user interfaces
>
> http://www.evl.uic.edu/aej/527/index.html
> Computer Animation, 2001
>
> http://www.evl.uic.edu/aej/528/index.html
> Virtual Reality 2005
>
>
>
>
http://www1.cs.uic.edu/CSweb/public/faculty.php?audience=public&label=Faculty
> close to Dr. Jason Leigh
> Electronic Visualization Laboratory,
> University of Illinois at Chicago,
>
> Andy's shortform vita/resume
> http://www.evl.uic.edu/aej/AndyInfo.html
>
>
>
> I have more on all other PMs of the 911"scholars", but that
> should be enough for today.
>
>
> nico aka ewing2001
> team8plus.org
>
>
>
> */Nico Haupt <nicohaupt2@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
> Steven,
>
> your non-reaction seems to prove, that your organisation is
> nothing but a word piece for Ruppert's and Jim Hoffman's
> disinfo clan and not willing to turn into a real activist
> group.
>
> If you are really concerned "about what's going on in the
> world", then why don't you endorse Greg Nixon's forthcoming
> protest?
>
> Prove, that you want to oppose fake opposition groups,
> otherwise you are just one of the fake oppositionalists as
> well.
>
> There is enough evidence by now, that US, Russia and China
> are planning a world war against wach other, also under
> pressure on new economic enemies by BRICs (Brazil, Russia,
> India, China), a competitor with G8.
>
> They have pending members like Venezuela and allegedly
> germany and South Africa.
>
>
> Your so called new evidence of "controlled demolition" is
> nothing worth,
> if it's not taken into real action.
>
> A pending disinfo spin CD and further ignorance on the
> Reality TV fake footage from sep11th, allows the global
> masters to continue their lies on Cartoon TV.
>
> Your resistance to answer here, is another low in the
> history of fake-groups in this movement. You should be
> ashamed.
>
> If WING TV has the guts to expose that, they should report
> on the behavior of this group in their shows.
>
> But they also should finally contribute a show on bluescreen
> fakery from sep11th and not allowing to continue of getting
> it confused with 'holography'.
>
> If the controlled demolition evidence goes under with a new
> controlled safety spin, then we know, who to thank.
>
> We don't need any farkin false-hope campaigners, ignorants,
> double standards and saboteurs any more.
>
> Stop with this pseudo competitive BS and sensationalism to
> distract from pragmatic facts.
>
> The whole truth has to come out, not just about controlled
> demolition.
>
> I furthermore expect your response on a pending false flag
> on weaponized bird flu :
>
> *Taiwan* *victim* of *setup* for "*WW4*" ?
> http://www.twimc.org/newswire/display/608/index.php
> http://team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?17.1515
>
>
> Please also check our daily updates from
> *2006 Terror Drill + War Games Watch
> <http://team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.2133>*
> http://team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.2133.30
> http://team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.2133.0
>
>
>
> nico aka ewing2001
> team8plus.org
>
> */Nico Haupt <nicohaupt2@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
> ....adding WING TV, who still decided not to speak out
> on TV bluescreen technology either and willing to
> believe, that mainstream media will push an uncontrolled
> message of the "controlled demolition"...
>
> */Nico Haupt <nicohaupt2@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
> Dear Prof.Jones,
>
> time passed by, and you still seem to be very busy
> with your family.
> But which "family" is it now?
>
> Since this was also a very interesting weekend on
> other "disinfo" developments,
>
> (GCN fired Daryl Bradford Smith, who is basically
> ghostwritten by Eric Hufschmid, Smith responded in
> an open letter to WING TV by accusing GCN as a
> complete spooker front), i'm now also curious about
> your own stand, how your own members seem to corner
> you already.
> Does that surprise you? Maybe even not...
>
>
> 1)
> Following this weekend's rolling heads of puppet DBS
> at GCN, yet another PR stunt by FreeMarket News, to
> replace the former popularity of cointelpro asset
> 911truth.org with mainstream media's new darling
> "911Scholars".
>
> FMN, pushing "9/11 truthling cartoon news" since
> their launch last year, has former links to CNN, NBC
> News, CBS News, ABC News, and Fox (Eric Gertler)
> News,
> http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=7171
>
>
<http://www092.gmx.net/de/cgi/derefer?TYPE=1&DEST=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efreemarketnews%2Ecom%2FWorldNews%2Easp%3Fnid%3D7171>
>
> They already seemed to ignore you, Steven, instead
> pushing the complete Ruppert Crew first:
> James H. Fetzer, Wayne Madsen, plus 911truth.org
> buddy Robert M. Bowman.
>
> 2)
> Also within the same time period, your own member
> Jim Hoffman allows Michael B. Green, Ph.D. to
> backstab your group, including yourself and Morgan
> Reynolds:
>
> http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/green/company.html
>
> "... ...Jones' strength as a pure scientist,
> however, is also a weakness. However much one would
> like to think that forensic questions can be
> considered in isolation from politics, geopolitics,
> USG domestic covert operations, and media complicity
> in such, it is impossible to do so...."
>
> 3)
> Possibly 1) was already a response on Gerards
> announcement to repromote you as a plagiarist, if
> you didn't correct your PR.
>
> It is already time to pull you out of radar again,
> after you played your revival "stunt"?
>
> Holmgren, though not fast enough, released his
> article on the same day, when FreeMarketNews started
> to ignore Jones already:
>
> SCHOLARS FOR 9/11 PLAGIARISM AND DISINFORMATION
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/scholars.html
>
>
<http://www092.gmx.net/de/cgi/derefer?TYPE=1&DEST=http%3A%2F%2Fmembers%2Eiinet%2Enet%2Eau%2F%7Eholmgren%2Fscholars%2Ehtml>
>
> Props from me for this article.
>
>
> Are you a coward, Steven?
> Or a willing tool in this new cointelpro show?
>
> Are you now at least not coward enough to answer my
> questions, or will your new boss, Jim "peak oil
> puppet" Fetzer try to speak out for you again?
>
> Are you guys working also on a controlled spin on
> the controlled demolition?
>
> Is it
>
> a) US Government prewired the towers (between 1993
> and 2001), being aware of an attack, to save
> people's life and "someone", unfortunately also
> killed in the rubble, pushed too early on the
> survival demolition button?
>
> Problem: What did the 14 US Helicopters do in the
> air at the very same time of the collapses? Why was
> everything pulverized which points on additional
> unconventional weaponry? How will NIST get away with
> all this (maybe they will, coz they just looked into
> how to prevent yet another "collapse"
>
> or
>
> b) Al-Quaeda pre-wired the Towers with help of
> Al-Shehhi?
> ...is this, why the perps send an actor into the
> Towers, then observed by former
> janitor Rodriguez and then not allowed to testify on
> that?
>
> Another backup spin?
>
> ...maybe the 911scholars, with help of NSA/NASA
> associate Jim Hofman will tell us, that a bad
> insider within the Silverstein crew had prior
> knowledge on pending terror attacks and prewired wtc
> 1, 2, 7? "...Unfortunately also that bad insider
> killed by the rubble..." and Larry had nothing to do
> with it?
>
> Or what other damn spin you guys are working right
> now?
>
> Was it Iran, Russia or China instead, who did 9/11?
>
> Meanwhile, why not just for fun please answer my
> questions?
>
> eagerly waiting here...
>
> nico aka ewing2001
> team8plus.org
>
>
> */
> Nico Haupt <nicohaupt2@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
> Steven,
>
> okay it's monday and i hope you had some great
> time with your family.
>
> So maybe you will now properly respond to Gerard
> and then please answer my questions.
> If Jim has some minutes, he can answer some of
> these questions as well.
>
> regards,
>
> nico aka ewing2001
>
>
> 1) Why is it that after 4 years of easy to
> obtain scientific research on 9/11,
> you decided to come forward?
>
> 2) Why then did you decide after your MSM
> appearance on MSNBC, to withdraw yourself from
> the 9/11 'activism' scene, without even taking
> the opportunity to also send a political message
> in public?
>
> 3) Why did you cancel the WING TV interview and
> the public appearance at Jimmy Walter's 9/11
> conference?
>
> 4) Did someone threaten you to continue in
> public or did you even let it appear on purpose,
> that someone threatened you, to obtain a 'hero'
> status?
>
> 5) Why did you not credit in any of your public
> appearances or papers the groundbreaking work of
> the "9/11 science and justice alliance", which
> existed from 2002 to early 2006 and included
> such smart researchers like
> Jeff "Plaguepuppy" King, Rosalee Grable, Gerard
> Holmgren, Eric Hufschmid, Jeff Strahl and many
> others?
>
> 6) Why did you reverse your stand again and
> hooked up with Scholars for 9/11 Truth?
>
> 7) Are you aware, that Sfor9/11 includes some
> critical AM's like Victoria Ashley and Jim
> Hoffman, who backstabbed controlled demolition
> researchers in the past?
>
> Hoffman is formerly associated with an NSA
> sponsored institute and via his uncle Jack
> Hoffman to yet another NASA- and NSA contractor
> Veridian:
> Noone else than Neil Armstrong (his sister is
> married to Jack), himself tied to "Project
> Trailblazer".
>
> Trailblazer was contracted via NRO and NSA since
> 1998 and was partly developed by BTG Inc. and
> BoozAllen Hamilton in the very same pentagon
> wedge, which was officially attacked on sep11th.
>
> Trailblazer was recently also exposed in
> mainstream media = MSM, however without
> reference to pre-9/11 contracts.
>
> Furthermore, why are some leftgatekeepers like
> Fred Burks involved, former translator of Pres.
> Bush, who's not clearly speaking out, that 9/11
> was an Inside Job?
>
> I'm also confused about Kenyon Gibson (AM),
> Former US Naval Intelligence and Wayne Madsen
> (same) and some others, who both NEVER clearly
> spoke out, that 9/11 was an Inside Job and in
> the latter case obviously sabotaged
> Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney on her attempt to
> get the truth out.
>
> 8)
> In case you decided to add a political message,
> which i generally appreciate, can you also
> support an endorsement of the following protest,
> if possible BEFORE 02/20, and if so, please
> explain, why you would like to support this
> protest or if not, why?:
>
>
> http://www.bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=10064
> *9/11 March For Truth NYC '06*
>
>
> 9)
> Since Greg Lemon (AM) Animation, Simulation,
> Special Effects,
> is another member, why does Sfor9/11 not speak
> out about a clear evidence on TV footage
> manipulation of Sep11th, which clearly points on
> BLUESCREEN TECHNOLOGY of the second hit?
> The clips include rendered and imported
> aircrafts, as also seen in Scott Myers' alleged
> camera close-up, himself a VR specialist since
> the 90's and associated with NIST.
>
> PS: 20:30 in "I missed flight 93" (A+E)
> Reporter:
> "i didn't see a plane going in. That just
> exploded..."
>
>
> 10)
> Why did you also now decide to add political
> messages today in the Daily Herald Extra ?
> http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/163875/3/
> "... He also was troubled by the U.S. torture
> policy and widening executive powers, and set
> his sites on the dangers of pre-emptive wars...."
> Why not about a pending world war between US,
> China and Russia?
> Are you really concerned about a war against
> Iran only?
> Also, why distract with the NSA wiretapping issue?
> Are you not aware, that civil right groups are
> not speaking out about the truth on 9/11? Do you
> think, they would support you now??
>
>
> I have some follow-up questions, but i am
> curious about your first response.
>
> nico haupt aka ewing2001
> co-founder "9/11 science and justice alliance"
>
> co-founder team8plus.org
>
>
> PS: Addendum Notes about Scott Myers:
>
> SCOTT MYERS, alleged "VIDEO-cameraman" from
> sep11th, '2nd hit':
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Follow the aristeia.com ties carefully and it's
> becoming clearer!!
> Here again a resume/collection on Scott M(e)yers:
>
> I know, that there are some parts which seem not
> to end up and some
> bizarre contradictions, but at the end it must
> be one and the same NIST-Meyers.
>
> More important however, Scott Myers' (1)
> background at Desktop Laboratories and their
> other close association with NIST and US Navy.
>
>
> 1)
> Scott Myers "video" from Sep11th
> http://home.comcast.net/~catqueen/new_pa1.jpg
> <http://home.comcast.net/%7Ecatqueen/new_pa1.jpg>
>
>
> 2)
> His spelling changed, but it's the same
> "photographer":
> Towers' Strength Not Tested for a Fire, Inquiry
> Suggests
> May 8, 2003 NY TIMES
> http://www.mishalov.com/wtc_firetest.html
> "...In a vivid illustration of how images of
> 9/11 have advanced the work, he showed how a
> sophisticated electronic analysis of videos that
> were shot by a photographer, Scott Meyers,
> revealed the structural convulsions of the south
> tower just after it was hit..."
>
>
> 3)
> Here is his indirect NIST link, also mentioning
> his video footage of Sep11th:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/awdw4
>
>
http://forums.ni.com/attachments/ni/JobSearch/150/3/20051019%20Scott%20Myers%20Technical%20Resume.pdf
> "...National Institutes of Standards and
> Technology: Desktop Laboratories office and
> residential
> loft were near the World Trade Centers; A tripod
> mounted video beginning shortly after the first
> impact was provided at no charge to the National
> Institutes of Safety and Technology (�NIST�)
> at
> no charge. The video record was used for
> analysis of building�s structural failure.
>
> http://nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc_briefing_june2305.htm
>
>
> 4)
> His old website, which links him as owner of
> DeskTop Laboratories
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20020722063620/http://desktoplabs.com/
>
> Scott Myers DeskTop Laboratories 12 John Street
> DP12
> is also relocated to
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/index.html
>
>
> 5)
> His clients
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/TVS%20aboutus.html
> US Navy, AeroNav Labs
>
>
> 6)
> More on Desktop Laboratories
>
>
http://forums.ni.com/attachments/ni/JobSearch/150/3/20051019%20Scott%20Myers%20Technical%20Resume.pdf
> Desktop Laboratories, New York
> US Navy: 3D position and metal detection
> software and hardware for use by the Navy in
> landmine location and surface integrity studies
> of ship hulls. The hardware and software for this
> project made sure a technician scanned a
> complete area of interest, no missing grid
> portions, and
> took measurements of events in each grid to
> detect for landmines or surface changes. Client:
> Naval Surface Warfare Center, Bethesda, MD...
>
>
> 7)
> He also worked also with/at
> Port Authority of NY & NJ
> (same link above)
>
>
> 8)
> Suddenly he's also a "consultant" at NIST or
> someone with the same name
>
> http://zing.ncsl.nist.gov/hfweb/proceedings/meyers-jones/
>
> Software Development Consultant at NIST
> Document Design for Effective Electronic
> Publication1
> Scott Meyers, Ph. D.
> smeyers@aristeia.com
>
> <http://mail.yahoo.com/config/login?/Compose?To=smeyers@aristeia.com>
>
> Please remember this aristeia-link, while
> continuing reading!!!
>
> June 1999
> His photo
> http://www.aristeia.com/
> http://www.aristeia.com/images/sdm-big.jpg
>
>
> [9)
> Another 'Scott Myers' seems not to be him:
>
> http://www.ce.unipr.it/iv2000/abs/IV2000abs1002.html
> Scott Myers, President, General Dynamics Robotic
> Systems (USA)
> scott@rst.com
>
> <http://mail.yahoo.com/config/login?/ym/Compose?To=scott@rst.com> Oddly
> there are NIST- GD Robotic links too, though...]
>
>
>
> 10)
> Back to his function as Sep11th "camera man",
> Scott Myers (desktoplab) is working on "3D
> motion capture, graphing and trial management"
> since 1996
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/3d/index3dPro.html
>
> His pre-9/11 tower-"hit":
> *http://tinyurl.com/8zscp*
>
>
http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/images/3D-Grapher-screenshot.jpg
>
>
> 11)
> same myers:
> Scott Myers, NIF senior mechanical engineer for
> Systems Integration on VR
>
>
http://www.deskeng.com/Articles/Cover-Story/See-It,-Feel-It,-Hear-It-20050201298.html
> February 2005
>
>
> 12)
> older reference
> Thu, 26 Jan 1995 10:39:23 -0500
> Reply-To: Scott Myers <sm205@COLUMBIA.EDU
>
> <http://mail.yahoo.com/config/login?/ym/Compose?To=sm205@COLUMBIA.EDU>
>
> http://isb.ri.ccf.org/biomch-l/archives/biomch-l-1995-01/00115.html
> Scott Myers
> DeskTop Laboratories
> 12 John Street DP12
> New York, NY
>
> WIKIPEDIA reference:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Meyers
> Scott Meyers, Ph. D.
> Scott Meyers is the author of several books on
> object oriented programming and especially the
> C++ computer programming language. He holds a
> Ph.D. in Computer Science from Brown University...
> they give "his website" as
> http://www.aristeia.com/
>
>
> Same or not same? Once again, a reference to
> Brown University:
> http://www.nwcpp.org/Meetings/2005/09.html
> "...Scott Meyers is one of the world's foremost
> experts on C++ software development.
> A programmer since 1972, he holds an M.S. in
> Computer Science from Stanford University and a
> Ph.D. from Brown University...."
>
> But go back again to
>
> http://zing.ncsl.nist.gov/hfweb/proceedings/meyers-jones/index.html
> and the same email:
> Scott Meyers, Ph. D.
> Software Development Consultant
> smeyers@aristeia.com
>
> <http://mail.yahoo.com/config/login?/ym/Compose?To=smeyers@aristeia.com>
>
>
>
> */Nico Haupt <nicohaupt2@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
> Steven,
>
> i hope you will also read this email, before
> you have time to respond again.
>
> I would like to express, that Gerard's
> request has nothing to do with so called ego
> issues, as often falsely labelled to silence
> the debate on correct sourcing.
>
> A so called 'truth movement' has to show
> that it proves consistency in their sources,
> which also increases the political
> credibility of this 'move'ment.
>
> Since Day 1 on sep11th i archived everyone's
> input into this movement, once it reached a
> known or even less known level of existance.
>
> I'm therefore able to testify who sourced
> first and support Gerard's letter.
>
> There had been many attempts in the past to
> discredit, belittle or plagiarize and
> re-spin particular 9/11 research on any
> matter, including also investigative 9/11
> research.
>
> We have to show to the public, that there
> was a strong and consistent awareness of
> 9/11-'truthseeking' and evidence
> documentation since Day 1!
>
> By deceiving the mainstream public, that
> this awareness was created only in the last
> few weeks or months, this research can be
> abused and instrumentalized as a wrong
> political message, means, we look like 'Bush
> Haters' or 'anti-war crowd'.
>
>
> But this isn't a fact, 9/11 research has to
> be non-biased and IF politically used, also
> to be addressed AGAINST the democratic party
> and other party cover-ups, i.e.Green party,
> who did not follow up on our evidence, which
> was forwarded to David Cobb and others.
>
> I can list many other so called
> "oppositionalists", who ignored 9/11
> research, including physical evidence. The
> list is endless. Most of them received the
> well sourced documents IN PERSON!
>
> They include Martin Luther King Jr., Cindy
> Sheehan, Ralph Nader, Amy Goodman, Noam
> Chomsky and many many others....
>
> Since everyone of them did not speak out on
> the truth about 9/11 or dismissed it as a
> "conspiracy theory", they can't be our
> supporters.
> I call this also criminal, if not supportive
> of war crimes.
>
> Are you really supporting us?
>
> This is a historical approach to express a
> clear resistance against militarized
> mainstream media and a oligarchic-semi
> fascist situation in this country, if not
> worldwide.
>
> At Team8plus.org we're monitoring worldwide
> wargames and terror drills and we can show,
> that Russia and China are planning a war
> against the US, as also vice versa.
>
> Another gatekeeping attitude or distraction
> from this threat is counter productive, at
> this point.That also includes political
> abuse to run with '9/11 reseach' for any
> kind of election, especially since all
> e-voting machines are rigged.
>
>
> If 911Scholars are legit, they have to
> become much more political, non-biased and
> support and endorse ANY kind of action to
> express this, including the symbolical
> attempt of Greg Nixon, who has been
> sabotaged by another alleged 'activist
> group', so called 911truth.org, itself
> clearly a cointel-pro asset!.
>
>
> To clear any doubts on your person and your
> group, you should therefore come forward and
> clearly remove these doubts.
> That also includes to remove particular
> persons in your group or label them as
> strictly non-associated, neutral endorsers,
> but not as associated members (AMs).
>
>
> Please also note, that i respect many
> 'associates' of your group, which HAD BEEN
> also former members of "9/11 science and
> justice alliance":
> That is i..e Alex Floum and Brad M. (also
> member of team8plus).
>
> I hope for them, that their name, reputation
> and credibility does not get abused for a
> possible sabotage attempt of other, not
> credible members in your group, many of them
> not even active as 9/11 researchers or -
> activists.
>
> That furthermore would also include, that
> you and your group, also has an open mind on
> scientific analysis on the sep11th video
> footage of the second hit on the Twin Towers.
>
> This is yet another important 9/11 research
> genre, which has been heavily sabotaged in
> the past and was falsely associated with so
> called holography theory, instead we're
> talking here about simple GC, bluescreen
> technology on TV!
>
>
> I hope, you will answer my 10 questions
> within the next 3 days, otherwise i have to
> come to the conclusion, that you're not
> credible as well and might be associated
> with saboteurs or government related
> cointel-pro assets as well.
>
> If you're honest and really concerned about
> what happens worldwide, i expect your
> personal endorsement of Greg Nixon's
> protest, a removal of these AMs and an
> appropriate response on Gerard's letter
> first, immediately followed with answers on
> my 10 questions.
>
> regards,
>
> nico haupt aka ewing2001
> bio:
>
> http://www.team8plus.org/comment.php?comment.news.4
>
>
> PS:
> My respect goes to Morgan Reynolds, who i
> consider to be the most credible member of
> your group. If i hear of any attempt to
> sabotage his input, i will support a
> worldwide expose on this attitude.
>
>
>
> */Gerard Holmgren <holmgren@iinet.net.au>/*
> wrote:
>
> If he doesn't answer, then that will of
> course be noted in the reposting and
> continuation of the "darkside " series,
> should that become necessary.
>
> The ball is in your court, Steve.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Nico Haupt
> [mailto:nicohaupt2@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, 3 February 2006 10:57 AM
> *To:* Jones, Steven; Gerard Holmgren
> *Cc:* Morgan Reynolds; jim fetzer; Nico
> Haupt; Rosalee Grable
> *Subject:* RE: Plagiarism warning
>
> Steven,
>
> not that i doubt that you have some
> personal appointments,
> but you know often did i get this kind
> of answer and then we never heard from
> this person again?
>
> I think, this "i have some family
> issues" started back in 2001 with spook
> Mike Ruppert, who claimed, he's too busy
> to respond.
>
> Please forgive my rudeness, but i insist
> on an answer.
>
> We all have family or private
> appointments and deserve the same
> respect of appropriate responses.
>
> You had been not busy enough to respond
> to Gerard, therefore i hope, you
> will have time enough to find a way to
> respond back to the group.
>
> And we will be all back after the
> weekend to remind you, especially on
> this correspondence of you, as seen on a
> slideshow in Utah:
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/cvaku
> *"...I'm sorry, i didn't contact you. I
> was afraid of what might happen with my
> career (YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED!!)
> Now I'm more afraid of what is happening
> in the world than with my career ... "
> (YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED again!!)
>
>
> regards,
>
> nico aka ewing2001
> team8plus.org
>
>
>
> */"Jones, Steven"
> <steven_jones@byu.edu>/* wrote:
> Note that I will be out of town now for
> a few days -- something I promised my
> wife due to working late and long hours
> lately.
> And I'm late in our get-away now
> actually. (She's most important to me,
> and our relationship.) Will respond
> Saturday at the earliest -- hopefully
> I'll have computer contact on Saturday
> next.
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Gerard Holmgren
> [mailto:holmgren@iinet.net.au]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:13
> PM
> *To:* Jones, Steven
> *Cc:* 'Morgan Reynolds'; 'jim fetzer';
> 'Nico Haupt'; 'Rosalee Grable'
> *Subject:* RE: Plagiarism warning
>
> Firstly, lets keep this on the list I
> sent it to, shall we Steve? I noticed
> that you replied only to me.
>
> [[I really must ask you to be specific.
> You write: Everything which I have seen
> *from you* in the media appears
> calculated...
>
> What, specifically, have I (me, that is,
> not someone else) written that shows
> plagiarism? Your charges at this time
> lack specifics for me to respond to, and
> that is unfair.]]
>
> There are two aspects. Your paper and
> your media appearances. In the media
> appearances I use the word "you"
> somewhat generically, as I'm not privy
> to knowing exactly who works out the
> wording for the press releases, but
> collectively, the comments I've seen are
> attributed to Jones and Fetzer, so
> that's where the accountability lies at
> this stage.
>
> Firstly to the paper.
>
> As I pointed out before, your paper
> contains no original work of any
> significance. It's simply a
> regurgitation of things which many
> people worked out long before you.
> Absolutely no effort was made to credit
> the original research which you are
> regurgitating. Unless there's an update
> of which I am not aware, then the only
> person credited is Hoffman. And since he
> -- like you, did absolutely nothing
> original of any significance, but
> plagiarized it from the same people he's
> been so busy attacking ever since - then
> this is no accreditation at all.
>
> I can come back to the specific
> accreditation (or lack of it) in the
> paper in more detail, but I shouldn't
> have to. You know very well everything
> you are saying was in the public domain
> long before anyone had even heard of
> Hoffman, let alone you.You are treading
> on thin ice by pretending to be so
> stupid that I have to spell out the
> history of the demolition research in
> exact detail.
>
> In fact most of it is already archived
> on my site. So stop pretending that you
> don't know what I'm talking about in
> relation to your paper.
>
> In relation to media appearances.
>
>
> http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/163875/3/
>
>
> Now you tell me, where in this article,
> you give even the slightest hint that
> **all** of this information has been in
> the public domain, well researched and
> documented, for approximately 4 years,
> and that you did none of it, and that
> no-one had heard of you until a few
> months ago. You tell me where a person
> new to this issue would have any idea
> that you are not a Johnny-come-lately
> regurgitator..
>
> In addition, you spout the ridiculous
> disinfo that 3 of the four black boxes
> were found. So you hop on the tail of
> other people's work to spout second
> level cover up disinfo.
>
> Furthermore.
>
> "After a standing ovation, Jones took
> questions from the audience. Jerry Owens
> of Midway, who heads a group called 9/11
> Truth Seekers, called Jones a true
> American hero.
> "He's putting his life on the line,"
> Owens said. "It's time for all of us to
> be patriots. We have to put our lives on
> the line, and now is the time."
> The group is circulating a petition for
> a 9/11 investigation headed by a
> citizens committee, Owens said. "This is
> the smoking gun where we can prove what
> our government's doing."
>
> Putting your life on the line ? What a
> load of self aggrandizing crap. Jared
> Israel and Illarion Bykov put their
> lives on the line ,because at the time,
> no one could predict how the govt might
> react. Ditto J McMichael and Rosalee
> Grable and possibly Jeff King -- all of
> whom you plagiarize. None of them ever
> boasted about it. Other people's
> research is not a plaything for you to
> create a personal hero cult
> psychodrama/.soap operas out of, after
> finally crawling out from whatever rock
> you've been hiding under for the last
> four years.
>
> Who do you think you are ?
>
> And as for this insult...
>
> [[The group is circulating a petition
> for a 9/11 investigation headed by a
> citizens committee, Owens said. "This is
> the smoking gun where we can prove what
> our government's doing."]]
>
> What do you think we've been doing for
> the last 4 years ?
> What do you call the compilation at
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/truth.html
>
> <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/truth.html>
> ?
>
>
> But it gets worse.
>
>
> http://deseretnews.com/dn/print/1,1442,635179751,00.html
>
>
> ""Did the Bush administration know in
> advance about the impending attacks that
> occurred on 9/11, and allow these to
> happen, to provoke pre-planned wars
> against Afghanistan and Iraq? These
> questions demand immediate answers,"
> charges a paper written collectively by
> Scholars for 9/11 Truth. The group plans
> to write more papers, and present
> lectures and conferences."
> LIHOP ? You want us to take LIHOP
> seriously ? And not even certain LIHOP
> but possible LIHOP ?
> Even Hoffman manages to go further than
> that.
> " In his original message to potential
> members last month, Fetzer warned that
> joining the group might make them the
> subject of government surveillance and
> might get them on various lists of
> "potential terrorists."
> Once again, the attempt to play hero --
> when your entire group is four years
> late to the party. One way to pick a
> crap researcher is by the how hard they
> play the hero card.
> "The group's charges include:
> . Members of the Bush administration
> knew in advance that the 9/11 attacks
> would happen but did nothing to stop them.
> . No Air Force or Air National Guard
> jets were sent to "scramble" the
> hijacked planes, which were clearly
> deviating from their flight plans,
> although jet fighters had been deployed
> for scramblings 67 times in the year
> prior to 9/11. The procedure for issuing
> orders for scrambling was changed in
> June 2001, requiring that approval could
> only come from the Secretary of Defense,
> but Donald Rumsfeld was not alerted soon
> enough on 9/11, according to Scholars
> group.
> . The video of Osama bin Laden found by
> American troops in Afghanistan in
> December 2001, in which bin Laden says
> he orchestrated the attacks, is not bin
> Laden. The Scholars for 9/11 Truth
> compared the video with a photo of the
> "real" bin Laden and argue that there
> are discrepancies in the ratio of
> nose-length to nose-width, as well as
> distance from tip-of-nose to ear lobe."
> They are **not** the "group's charges.
> It is the group's belated regurgitation
> of solid work which has been in the
> public domain for the last four years.
> Furthermore the claim to have done
> original work in relation to the OBL
> video is direct plagiarism.
>
> http://www.arbeiterfotografie.com/bin-laden-vergleich.html
>
>
> The top half is in German, but if you
> scroll down , there's an English section.
> Dec 2001 -- if you don't mind !
> Not content with both specific and
> indirect plagiarism, you couldn't help
> mixing it in with a little Hoffman
> generated disinfo.
> "The procedure for issuing orders for
> scrambling was changed in June 2001,
> requiring that approval could only come
> from the Secretary of Defense, but
> Donald Rumsfeld was not alerted soon
> enough on 9/11, according to Scholars
> group. "
> Complete BS as exposed here.
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/hoffmanstandown.html
>
> <http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/hoffmanstandown.html>
>
> At worst you are deliberately spreading
> disinfo. At best, you are spouting
> poorly researched drivel -- can I say
> "junk research" ? That someone who's
> taken four years to work out the law of
> gravity still works and up until 5 weeks
> ago didn't even know what kind of planes
> were supposedly involved in the attacks
> is now claiming star billing in order to
> spread this kind of drivel again prompts
> me to ask -- who the hell do you think
> you are ?
> How about learning something about the
> subject before shooting your mouth off ?
> Haven't you learned anything from the
> debacle of your attack on the no planes
> evidence ?
> " The group also asks for an
> investigation of the collapse of the
> World Trade Center buildings, following
> up on points made in Jones's paper, "Why
> Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?"
> That paper, recently updated, has been
> posted on Jones's BYU Web site since
> last November."
> Asks for an investigation ? By the same
> people who did it ?
> "Jones argues that the WTC buildings did
> not collapse due to impact or fires
> caused by the jets hitting the towers
> but collapsed as a result of
> pre-positioned "cutter charges." Proof,
> he says, includes:
> . Molten metal was found in the
> subbasements of WTC sites weeks after
> 9/11; the melting point of structural
> steel is 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit and
> the temperature of jet fuel does not
> exceed 1,800 degrees. Molten metal was
> also found in the building known as
> WTC7, although no plane had struck it.
> Jones's paper also includes a photo of a
> slag of the metal being extracted from
> ground zero. The slag, Jones argues,
> could not be aluminum from the planes
> because in photographs the metal was
> salmon-to-yellow-hot temperature
> (approximately 1,550 to 1,900 degrees F)
> "well above the melting temperatures of
> lead and aluminum," which would be a
> liquid at that temperature.
> . Building WTC7 collapsed in 6.6
> seconds, which means, Jones says, that
> the steel and concrete support had to be
> simply knocked out of the way.
> "Explosive demolitions are like that,"
> he said. "It doesn't fit the model of
> the fire-induced pancake collapse."
> . No steel-frame, high-rise buildings
> have ever before or since been brought
> down due to fires. Temperatures due to
> fire don't get hot enough for buildings
> to collapse, he says.
> . Jones points to a recent article in
> the journal New Civil Engineering that
> says WTC disaster investigators at NIST
> (the National Institutes of Standards
> and Technology) "are refusing to show
> computer visualizations of the collapse
> of the Twin Towers despite calls from
> leading structural and fire engineers."
> And Jones figured all this out himself
> and shocked the world with these
> stunning new revelations. How do we know
> this ? We can check the credits in his
> paper. All original work. Actually not
> quite true. There was just one before
> him. Jim Hoffman.
> Now, let's cut to the chase. I don't
> have time for any stupid, evasive
> bullshit. Don't give me any crap about
> the hero comments from Owens not being
> your fault. I used to work doing media
> releases for community pressure groups.
> I know how a press release is written.
> Don't insult my intelligence by
> suggesting that Owens was simply a
> random member of the crowd, who's
> unexpected comments got randomly picked
> up by a reporter who was there.
> As scholars, you are supposed to know
> about accreditation. Don't start
> pretending that you have no idea what
> I'm talking about, when it becomes
> inconvenient. If you have questions
> about documentation, feel free to ask.
> You're new to this and can't be expected
> to have that same level of familiarity
> with the documentation as those who
> actually did it, or alternatively have
> been distributing for four years.
> No one gets their head bitten off for
> asking, for checking, for honest
> mistakes. And distribution and
> popularizing of existing research is
> welcomed within the correct protocol.
> But don't waste my time with bullshit
> pretending that you don't know what I'm
> talking about. This is exactly how
> Hoffman started.
> I am a hair trigger away from reposting
> the "darkside" series, so be careful and
> show some respect.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Jones, Steven
> [mailto:steven_jones@byu.edu]
> *Sent:* Friday, 3 February 2006 9:08 AM
> *To:* Gerard Holmgren
> *Subject:* RE: Plagiarism warning
>
> I really must ask you to be specific.
> You write: Everything which I have seen
> *from you* in the media appears
> calculated...
>
> What, specifically, have I (me, that is,
> not someone else) written that shows
> plagiarism? Your charges at this time
> lack specifics for me to respond to, and
> that is unfair.
>
> Steven J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Gerard Holmgren
> [mailto:holmgren@iinet.net.au]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2006 2:59
> PM
> *To:* Jones, Steven
> *Cc:* 'Rosalee Grable'; 'Nico Haupt';
> 'Morgan Reynolds'; 'jim fetzer'
> *Subject:* Plagiarism warning
>
> Steve,
>
> I previously warned you about
> plagiarism. As a scholar you are
> supposed to know what plagiarism is and
> to avoid it.
>
> I'm doing you the courtesy of delivering
> another warning in private before
> considering our truce broken.
>
> Everything which I have seen from you in
> the media appears calculated to give the
> false impressions that
>
> a) What you are saying is new.
> b) That you have actually done
> some kind original research yourself,
> sometimes going so far as to
> specifically claim credit for things
> which were unveiled by others long
> before anyone heard of you.
> c) That you are taking some kind
> of personal risk -- a ludicrous and self
> aggrandizing claim.
>
> A truce was reached in our previous
> dispute because you backed off your ill
> considered attacks on the same people
> whom you are so busy plagiarizing.
> Accordingly , I took down the completed
> part of the "dark side" series and
> discontinued writing the remainder of
> the series.
>
> However, if you continue with this
> plagiarism rampage, then I will consider
> the truce broken and repost the 3
> completed "Darkside "articles and
> continue with the rest of the series.
>
> On the plagiarism aspect, I have more
> ammunition now that I did before, so I
> suggest that you start behaving yourself.
>
>
>
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