WTC7 seems to be a classic controlled demolition. WTC 1 &2 destruction appears to have been enhanced by thermate (a variation of thermite) in addition. Pentagon was not struck by a passenger aircraft. It was a drone or missle.
Monday, October 17, 2005
Sky ...
i took take in yesterday ...
Actually later ..the sky is very amazing ..And I took that either .. but It was beautiful .. It wasn't like what I see so I won't put in here ..
Actually later ..the sky is very amazing ..And I took that either .. but It was beautiful .. It wasn't like what I see so I won't put in here ..
The Anchoress � Spare me this �free� service, please!
The Anchoress � Spare me this �free� service, please!
Blogger Thought: 1st Up: I don't know the specifics of what Anchoress is identifying that evil liberals are trying to foist upon the good ole US. It is a straw man.
The Anchoress blog entries are some of the most deceptive, illogical, emotional, and unhelpful to democracy that I have witnessed in quite some time.
Blogger Thought: 1st Up: I don't know the specifics of what Anchoress is identifying that evil liberals are trying to foist upon the good ole US. It is a straw man.
The Anchoress blog entries are some of the most deceptive, illogical, emotional, and unhelpful to democracy that I have witnessed in quite some time.
History of Corporations (United States)
History of Corporations (United States)
Lastest Example: Big Tobacco and another news service here , and here
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Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States
First published January 2001
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When American colonists declared independence from England in 1776, they also freed themselves from control by English corporations that extracted their wealth and dominated trade. After fighting a revolution to end this exploitation, our country's founders retained a healthy fear of corporate power and wisely limited corporations exclusively to a business role. Corporations were forbidden from attempting to influence elections, public policy, and other realms of civic society.
Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals. Enabling shareholders to profit was seen as a means to that end.
The states also imposed conditions (some of which remain on the books, though unused) like these:
* Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
* Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
* Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
* Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
* Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
* Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.
For 100 years after the American Revolution, legislators maintained tight controlled the corporate chartering process. Because of widespread public opposition, early legislators granted very few corporate charters, and only after debate. Citizens governed corporations by detailing operating conditions not just in charters but also in state constitutions and state laws. Incorporated businesses were prohibited from taking any action that legislators did not specifically allow.
States also limited corporate charters to a set number of years. Unless a legislature renewed an expiring charter, the corporation was dissolved and its assets were divided among shareholders. Citizen authority clauses limited capitalization, debts, land holdings, and sometimes, even profits. They required a company's accounting books to be turned over to a legislature upon request. The power of large shareholders was limited by scaled voting, so that large and small investors had equal voting rights. Interlocking directorates were outlawed. Shareholders had the right to remove directors at will.
In Europe, charters protected directors and stockholders from liability for debts and harms caused by their corporations. American legislators explicitly rejected this corporate shield. The penalty for abuse or misuse of the charter was not a plea bargain and a fine, but dissolution of the corporation.
In 1819 the U.S. Supreme Court tried to strip states of this sovereign right by overruling a lower court's decision that allowed New Hampshire to revoke a charter granted to Dartmouth College by King George III. The Court claimed that since the charter contained no revocation clause, it could not be withdrawn. The Supreme Court's attack on state sovereignty outraged citizens. Laws were written or re-written and new state constitutional amendments passedto circumvent the Dartmouth ruling. Over several decades starting in 1844, nineteen states amended their constitutions to make corporate charters subject to alteration or revocation by their legislatures. As late as 1855 it seemed that the Supreme Court had gotten the people's message when in Dodge v. Woolsey it reaffirmed state's powers over "artificial bodies."
But the men running corporations pressed on. Contests over charter were battles to control labor, resources, community rights, and political sovereignty. More and more frequently, corporations were abusing their charters to become conglomerates and trusts. They converted the nation's resources and treasures into private fortunes, creating factory systems and company towns. Political power began flowing to absentee owners, rather than community-rooted enterprises.
The industrial age forced a nation of farmers to become wage earners, and they became fearful of unemployment--a new fear that corporations quickly learned to exploit. Company towns arose. and blacklists of labor organizers and workers who spoke up for their rights became common. When workers began to organize, industrialists and bankers hired private armies to keep them in line. They bought newspapers to paint businessmen as heroes and shape public opinion. Corporations bought state legislators, then announced legislators were corrupt and said that they used too much of the public's resources to scrutinize every charter application and corporate operation.
Government spending during the Civil War brought these corporations fantastic wealth. Corporate executives paid "borers" to infest Congress and state capitals, bribing elected and appointed officials alike. They pried loose an avalanche of government financial largesse. During this time, legislators were persuaded to give corporations limited liability, decreased citizen authority over them, and extended durations of charters. Attempts were made to keep strong charter laws in place, but with the courts applying legal doctrines that made protection of corporations and corporate property the center of constitutional law, citizen sovereignty was undermined. As corporations grew stronger, government and the courts became easier prey. They freely reinterpreted the U.S. Constitution and transformed common law doctrines.
One of the most severe blows to citizen authority arose out of the 1886 Supreme Court case of Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad. Though the court did not make a ruling on the question of “corporate personhood,” thanks to misleading notes of a clerk, the decision subsequently was used as precedent to hold that a corporation was a "natural person."
From that point on, the 14th Amendment, enacted to protect rights of freed slaves, was used routinely to grant corporations constitutional “personhood.” Justices have since struck down hundreds of local, state and federal laws enacted to protect people from corporate harm based on this illegitimate premise. Armed with these “rights,” corporations increased control over resources, jobs, commerce, politicians, even judges and the law.
A United States Congressional committee concluded in 1941, "The principal instrument of the concentration of economic power and wealth has been the corporate charter with unlimited power...."
Many U.S.-based corporations are now transnational, but the corrupted charter remains the legal basis for their existence. At ReclaimDemocracy.org, we believe citizens can reassert the convictions of our nation's founders who struggled succesfully to free us from corporate rule in the past. These changes must occur at the most fundamental level -- the U.S. Constitution.
Thanks to our friends at the Program on Corporations, Law and Democracy (POCLAD) for their permission to use excerpts of their research for this article.
Please visit our Corporate Personhood page for a huge library of articles exploring this topic more deeply. You might also be interested to read our proposed Constitutional Amendments to revoke illegitmate corporate power, erode the power of money over elections, and establish an affirmative constitutional right to vote.
Go to Home Page
Lastest Example: Big Tobacco and another news service here , and here
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Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States
First published January 2001
Print-friendly Page
When American colonists declared independence from England in 1776, they also freed themselves from control by English corporations that extracted their wealth and dominated trade. After fighting a revolution to end this exploitation, our country's founders retained a healthy fear of corporate power and wisely limited corporations exclusively to a business role. Corporations were forbidden from attempting to influence elections, public policy, and other realms of civic society.
Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals. Enabling shareholders to profit was seen as a means to that end.
The states also imposed conditions (some of which remain on the books, though unused) like these:
* Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
* Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
* Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
* Corporations were often terminated if they exceeded their authority or caused public harm.
* Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed on the job.
* Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.
For 100 years after the American Revolution, legislators maintained tight controlled the corporate chartering process. Because of widespread public opposition, early legislators granted very few corporate charters, and only after debate. Citizens governed corporations by detailing operating conditions not just in charters but also in state constitutions and state laws. Incorporated businesses were prohibited from taking any action that legislators did not specifically allow.
States also limited corporate charters to a set number of years. Unless a legislature renewed an expiring charter, the corporation was dissolved and its assets were divided among shareholders. Citizen authority clauses limited capitalization, debts, land holdings, and sometimes, even profits. They required a company's accounting books to be turned over to a legislature upon request. The power of large shareholders was limited by scaled voting, so that large and small investors had equal voting rights. Interlocking directorates were outlawed. Shareholders had the right to remove directors at will.
In Europe, charters protected directors and stockholders from liability for debts and harms caused by their corporations. American legislators explicitly rejected this corporate shield. The penalty for abuse or misuse of the charter was not a plea bargain and a fine, but dissolution of the corporation.
In 1819 the U.S. Supreme Court tried to strip states of this sovereign right by overruling a lower court's decision that allowed New Hampshire to revoke a charter granted to Dartmouth College by King George III. The Court claimed that since the charter contained no revocation clause, it could not be withdrawn. The Supreme Court's attack on state sovereignty outraged citizens. Laws were written or re-written and new state constitutional amendments passedto circumvent the Dartmouth ruling. Over several decades starting in 1844, nineteen states amended their constitutions to make corporate charters subject to alteration or revocation by their legislatures. As late as 1855 it seemed that the Supreme Court had gotten the people's message when in Dodge v. Woolsey it reaffirmed state's powers over "artificial bodies."
But the men running corporations pressed on. Contests over charter were battles to control labor, resources, community rights, and political sovereignty. More and more frequently, corporations were abusing their charters to become conglomerates and trusts. They converted the nation's resources and treasures into private fortunes, creating factory systems and company towns. Political power began flowing to absentee owners, rather than community-rooted enterprises.
The industrial age forced a nation of farmers to become wage earners, and they became fearful of unemployment--a new fear that corporations quickly learned to exploit. Company towns arose. and blacklists of labor organizers and workers who spoke up for their rights became common. When workers began to organize, industrialists and bankers hired private armies to keep them in line. They bought newspapers to paint businessmen as heroes and shape public opinion. Corporations bought state legislators, then announced legislators were corrupt and said that they used too much of the public's resources to scrutinize every charter application and corporate operation.
Government spending during the Civil War brought these corporations fantastic wealth. Corporate executives paid "borers" to infest Congress and state capitals, bribing elected and appointed officials alike. They pried loose an avalanche of government financial largesse. During this time, legislators were persuaded to give corporations limited liability, decreased citizen authority over them, and extended durations of charters. Attempts were made to keep strong charter laws in place, but with the courts applying legal doctrines that made protection of corporations and corporate property the center of constitutional law, citizen sovereignty was undermined. As corporations grew stronger, government and the courts became easier prey. They freely reinterpreted the U.S. Constitution and transformed common law doctrines.
One of the most severe blows to citizen authority arose out of the 1886 Supreme Court case of Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad. Though the court did not make a ruling on the question of “corporate personhood,” thanks to misleading notes of a clerk, the decision subsequently was used as precedent to hold that a corporation was a "natural person."
From that point on, the 14th Amendment, enacted to protect rights of freed slaves, was used routinely to grant corporations constitutional “personhood.” Justices have since struck down hundreds of local, state and federal laws enacted to protect people from corporate harm based on this illegitimate premise. Armed with these “rights,” corporations increased control over resources, jobs, commerce, politicians, even judges and the law.
A United States Congressional committee concluded in 1941, "The principal instrument of the concentration of economic power and wealth has been the corporate charter with unlimited power...."
Many U.S.-based corporations are now transnational, but the corrupted charter remains the legal basis for their existence. At ReclaimDemocracy.org, we believe citizens can reassert the convictions of our nation's founders who struggled succesfully to free us from corporate rule in the past. These changes must occur at the most fundamental level -- the U.S. Constitution.
Thanks to our friends at the Program on Corporations, Law and Democracy (POCLAD) for their permission to use excerpts of their research for this article.
Please visit our Corporate Personhood page for a huge library of articles exploring this topic more deeply. You might also be interested to read our proposed Constitutional Amendments to revoke illegitmate corporate power, erode the power of money over elections, and establish an affirmative constitutional right to vote.
Go to Home Page
USATODAY.com - U.S.: 70 Iraqis killed in airstrikes
USATODAY.com - U.S.: 70 Iraqis killed in airstrikes: "The military said all the dead were militants, though witnesses said at least 39 were civilians."
MSN Lifestyle - Relationships - Article
MSN Lifestyle - Relationships - Article
Blogger Thought: MSN thinks you should swallow this Redbook garbage.
Blogger Thought: MSN thinks you should swallow this Redbook garbage.
GOP Steamrolled by Dem Investigations
GOP Steamrolled by Dem Investigations
Blogger Thoughts: Repubs rule with reckness disregard to laws, create hostile environment, then accuse Dems of being out of line.
Blogger Thoughts: Repubs rule with reckness disregard to laws, create hostile environment, then accuse Dems of being out of line.
Wayne Madsen Report
Wayne Madsen Report: "October 16, 2005 -- The neocon spin machine took to the airwaves Sunday morning to continue their assault against Patrick Fitzgerald. Some right-wing talking heads inferred that Fitzgerald is a 'runaway' prosecutor who can only base a case against the White House on the faulty memories and incomplete notes of reporters and White House staff. The spinners also continued the baseless charge that Valerie Plame (or 'Flame' as New York Times reporter Judith Miller listed in the same notebook that contains the notes of her conversations with Scooter Libby) and her Brewster Jennings & Associates NOC team were not covert. In addition, Meet the Press featured discredited former FBI Director Louis Freeh, Jr., an associate and friend of Rudolph Giuliani. Freeh blathered on about his Clinton-bashing book. Freeh's tenure at the FBI saw him cut the feet off of counter-terrorism and counter-intelligence agents like John O'Neill in their pursuit of Al Qaeda and Russian-Ukrainian-Israeli (RUIM) figures. Freeh was also a friend and co-parishioner of convicted Soviet and Russian spy Robert Hanssen, an FBI agent who had been spying for Moscow for over 25 years.
This neocon last gasp at spinning on the Sunday pundit programs is a sign that Fitzgerald will soon be returning multiple indictments against Karl Rove and Scooter Libby, as well as false statement indictments against other White House officials. The desperation of the neocons this Sunday is a sign that the indictments are likely coming within the next few days. The White House is reportedly in a crisis mode unseen since the days before the buildup to the attack on Iraq. Major resignations and a reshuffling are expected in the next few weeks.
One of the most bizarre revelations (which could come right out of a bad Hollywood screenplay) in Miller's piece in the New York Times today is this one:
'Mr. Fitzgerald a"
This neocon last gasp at spinning on the Sunday pundit programs is a sign that Fitzgerald will soon be returning multiple indictments against Karl Rove and Scooter Libby, as well as false statement indictments against other White House officials. The desperation of the neocons this Sunday is a sign that the indictments are likely coming within the next few days. The White House is reportedly in a crisis mode unseen since the days before the buildup to the attack on Iraq. Major resignations and a reshuffling are expected in the next few weeks.
One of the most bizarre revelations (which could come right out of a bad Hollywood screenplay) in Miller's piece in the New York Times today is this one:
'Mr. Fitzgerald a"
Intelligence Whispers
WASHINGTON, SAN FRANCISCO, AND MANILA -- October 14, 2005 -- Knowledgeable sources are reporting that the case of accused White House spy Leandro Aragoncilla, a former Marine aide on the staff of the Vice President and later a an FBI employee, involves a Roman Catholic Opus Dei espionage and political assassination team operating in the United States. Aragoncilla and his control officer, Michael Ray Aquino, a former officer with the Philippine National Police's Presidential Anti-Organized Crime Task Force (PAOCTF) in the Philippines, were arrested for illegally obtaining classified documents from the office of Vice President Dick Cheney and an FBI computer system that were injurious to Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo. The documents were passed by Aquino to Philippine opposition figures linked closely to a powerful Opus Dei movement in the country. That movement was reportedly participating in a planned coup against Macapagal-Arroyo. (The April 2002 U.S.-supported abortive coup against Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez was also supported by Opus Dei elements in Venezuela). The Philippine Department of Justice has asked for an arrest warrant to be issued against Aquino and his one time police assistant Cesar Mancao for the murder of Philippine publicist Salvador "Buddy" Dacer and his driver Emmanuel Corbito in November 2000. The Aragoncilla-Aquino ring is being linked to a wider Opus Dei espionage and political black bag operation that reached into the highest levels of the FBI. Convicted Soviet and Russian spy Robert Hanssen was a longtime member of Opus Dei's St. Catherine of Siena's Church in Great Falls, Virginia. Other prominent members of St. Catherine's included Hanssen's boss at the FBI, Louis Freeh, Jr. The Opus Dei espionage ring operating out of Cheney's office is reported to have had a degree of approval from officials inside the Bush White House. Although Aquino is being held in jail in Passaic, New Jersey, Mancao is reportedly at large in south Florida, possibly with a wink and a nod from Gov. Jeb Bush's administration.
White House Out Of Touch With Grassroots Conservatives -- Bobby Eberle -- GOPUSA
White House Out Of Touch With Grassroots Conservatives -- Bobby Eberle -- GOPUSA
Blogger Thougth: Damn, Eberle is formidable. Great Editorial.
Blogger Thougth: Damn, Eberle is formidable. Great Editorial.
Misunderestimating The Furor Over Hurricane Harriet -- Opinion Central -- GOPUSA
Misunderestimating The Furor Over Hurricane Harriet -- Opinion Central -- GOPUSA: "It's not that conservatives think she's 'unqualified.'"
Blogger Thought: In point of fact, many conservatives do think she is unqualified, Mr. Muth.
Blogger Thought: In point of fact, many conservatives do think she is unqualified, Mr. Muth.
GOPUSA - Kentucky
GOPUSA - Kentucky
Blogger Thought: Interesting. Have to give credit to Pense for offering a solution. Don't think Kentuckians will agree. Obviously Pense isn't staking out a Conservative / Christian position.
Blogger Thought: Interesting. Have to give credit to Pense for offering a solution. Don't think Kentuckians will agree. Obviously Pense isn't staking out a Conservative / Christian position.
Networks Cover Iraq War as 'Bad News Brigade,' Survey Shows -- GOPUSA
Networks Cover Iraq War as 'Bad News Brigade,' Survey Shows -- GOPUSA
Blogger Thoughts: If the facts don't support your position: lie.
Blogger Thoughts: If the facts don't support your position: lie.
Levee Breaks, 9-11 Part of Govt. Plot, Farrakhan Implies -- GOPUSA
Levee Breaks, 9-11 Part of Govt. Plot, Farrakhan Implies -- GOPUSA
Blogger Thoughts: I've got to give credit: CNSNews.com and gopusa.com is paying attention.
Blogger Thoughts: I've got to give credit: CNSNews.com and gopusa.com is paying attention.
Politics Blog � Blog Archive � The Right enraged
Politics Blog � Blog Archive � The Right enraged: "My views on Ms. Miers have begun to change since reading Dobson�s statements"
Blogger Thoughts: These people are sickening.
Blogger Thoughts: These people are sickening.
Miller Testimony Suggests Blame Game Over Iraq War
Miller Testimony Suggests Blame Game Over Iraq War: "Miller Testimony Suggests Blame Game Over Iraq War "
Blogger Thoughts: Newsmax thinks treason is a game.
Blogger Thoughts: Newsmax thinks treason is a game.
ADL Condemns Millions More March
ADL Condemns Millions More March: "ADL Condemns Millions More March"
Iraq voting is illegal: the coming invasion of Venezuela too : Argentina Indymedia (( i ))
Iraq voting is illegal: the coming invasion of Venezuela too : Argentina Indymedia (( i )): "Iraq voting is illegal: the coming invasion of Venezuela too"
The Threads of Scandal: Iraq, Niger, Plamegate and Franklin
Informed Comment: "The Threads of Scandal: Iraq, Niger, Plamegate and Franklin "
Instead of discussing the biggest story in town
Hullabaloo: "Instead of discussing the biggest story in town"
Stop telling me you told me so, you fucking anti-war assholes!
Hullabaloo: "Stop telling me you told me so, you fucking anti-war assholes!"
The Observer | UK News | Violence blamed on teenage mums
The Observer UK News Violence blamed on teenage mums
Blogger Thoughts: I need to make two points.
1) If perhaps any of my readers who call themselves conservatives and think as your editor as a hopeless anti-war lib, let me go on record have concerns and supporting this study's conclusions about "immature young parents." Of course, I would add such factors as having been poorly educated, and being impovished.
2) The Guardian, like much of the MSM, lies about the message in its headline (to be sensational, I suppose). The study clearly refers to parents, not Mums.
Blogger Thoughts: I need to make two points.
1) If perhaps any of my readers who call themselves conservatives and think as your editor as a hopeless anti-war lib, let me go on record have concerns and supporting this study's conclusions about "immature young parents." Of course, I would add such factors as having been poorly educated, and being impovished.
2) The Guardian, like much of the MSM, lies about the message in its headline (to be sensational, I suppose). The study clearly refers to parents, not Mums.
Court martial for British officer (Anti Iraq War)
New Straits Times - Malaysia News Online: "Court martial for British officer "
CBSNews.com makes an extremely poor choice from the Blogosphere.
CBSNews.com: Blog
This blogger, based on the three blog entries that I posted is such an embarrasment to herself and CSB News.
This blogger, based on the three blog entries that I posted is such an embarrasment to herself and CSB News.
The Anchoress � Dr. Sanity on call�
The Anchoress � Dr. Sanity on call�
Blogger Thoughts: This blogger has no grasp on reality. And she is referring to Dr. Sanity?!
Blogger Thoughts: This blogger has no grasp on reality. And she is referring to Dr. Sanity?!
The Anchoress � From a solder at the �STAGED� event
The Anchoress � From a solder at the �STAGED� event
Reality Check: http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1016-25.htm Bush's Obscene Performance with Troops in Tikrit
Blogger Thought: Anchoress' silly, knee jerk, almost ridiculous comment about MSM focus is thoroughly discredited by the reality of the weekend coverage. It's great to see another horribly misinformed supposedly conservative blogger show herself as the clueless person that she is.
What is the MSM focus.....?
Here is example 1 (Iraqis In Kentuckiana Celebrate Iraq's New Constitution) of incredible media saturation with the propaganda.....
Example 2
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VIDEO: Example 7 (Clickable on destination page) not sure if it will stay
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More reasonable coverage, yet still highlighted
Reality Check: http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1016-25.htm Bush's Obscene Performance with Troops in Tikrit
Blogger Thought: Anchoress' silly, knee jerk, almost ridiculous comment about MSM focus is thoroughly discredited by the reality of the weekend coverage. It's great to see another horribly misinformed supposedly conservative blogger show herself as the clueless person that she is.
What is the MSM focus.....?
Here is example 1 (Iraqis In Kentuckiana Celebrate Iraq's New Constitution) of incredible media saturation with the propaganda.....
Example 2
Example 3
Example 4
Example 5
Example 6
VIDEO: Example 7 (Clickable on destination page) not sure if it will stay
Example 8
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Example 11
More reasonable coverage, yet still highlighted
The Bush Doctrine and International Law
Georgetown University
"very thoughtful analysis of the Bush Doctrine on Georgetown's Mortara Center Blog."
Blogger Thoughts: The above is what Bainbridge calls this. This is utter horseshit. What will happen is that cooler heads will prevail and Bush will be seen as the War Criminal that he is.
"very thoughtful analysis of the Bush Doctrine on Georgetown's Mortara Center Blog."
Blogger Thoughts: The above is what Bainbridge calls this. This is utter horseshit. What will happen is that cooler heads will prevail and Bush will be seen as the War Criminal that he is.
greatscat!: Bastards
greatscat!: Bastards
Blogger Thoughts: I wouldn't put it past some elements in our society to be doing this as a flash flag.... meaning the neo-nazi group is controlled or incited by those who benefit from blow ups like this ... scares the public, public demands protection... (P)roblem, (R)eaction, (S)olution.
Blogger Thoughts: I wouldn't put it past some elements in our society to be doing this as a flash flag.... meaning the neo-nazi group is controlled or incited by those who benefit from blow ups like this ... scares the public, public demands protection... (P)roblem, (R)eaction, (S)olution.
"This thing is an enormous fiasco."
Progress in Iraq, but Hard Road Still Ahead: "This thing is an enormous fiasco"
U.S. nabs al-Qaida Web site producer - Conflict in Iraq - MSNBC.com
U.S. nabs al-Qaida Web site producer - Conflict in Iraq - MSNBC.com
Blogger Thoughts: Call me very skeptical of this account.
Blogger Thoughts: Call me very skeptical of this account.
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