Cytations: reform is happening: Mr. Rense, Would You Please Look Into This?

Cytations: reform is happening: Mr. Rense, Would You Please Look Into This?


Death Threats, Personal Attacks and Real IssuesUPDATE Feb 6: French Connection Canceled!Who is GCN?This morning, Genesis Communications Network (GCN) has contacted Daryl Bradford Smith and informed him that he would no longer be doing the French Connection on GCN because he was "creating too many problems with his programming." Smith and Eric Hufschmid announced a new show that is "bigger and harder hitting." Please go to IAMTHEWITNESS.COM for audio files.In the past, Jeff Rense has hosted and linked to several articles that I or my friends wrote. I consider Jeff a friend and a leader on the internet.If we cannot have real and civil disagreements about issues, then we are just...mainsteam all over again. The enemies of truth are using subtle misinformation, personal attacks, and death threats in an attempt to cut the internet down to mainstream size. They are also trying to pit fair-minded people against each other.I started off raising some issues with Jeff Rense, but I soon realized that Jeff has received death threats and that he has been misled about who sent him those anonymous threats. It was not Cyte, NewsWatcher or Skunk. We are independent analysts who believe in due process and civil disagreement. We do not condone incitement to violence nor personal attacks or threats. Our disagreements with others are limited to real issues and actions.It is all right to say that a story or a pattern of stories is deceptive or misleading. But we need to show why we say that rather than resort to threats or personal attacks. At the end of the day, we may reject or condemn many stories or a whole website, but we cannot condemn a person or claim that he is evil, much less so merely because of race or personal relationships."The Skunk" of Liberty Forum [LF] who runs Judicial website recently wrote that Rense was threatened by Zionists and had to drop Skunk's stories:"I was informed by Rense that he was contacted by members [of LF] to stop running Judicials articles, when he refused, he had a series of threats. He has now informed me he has terminated our relationship. The focus on Israel highlighted the phony bombs, the Rachel Corries, the killing of children." More...Is Rense also being pressured to carry certain articles? Genesis Communications Network has twisted Daryl Bradford Smith's arms (see below). Are they also twisting Rense's arms?Daryl Bradford Smith of the French Connection raised certain issues about Rense and others in an article. He also included material that could be seen as personal or threatening. Daryl made corrections and clarified his intent, but the Genesis Communications Network threatened to drop his radio show if he did not pull the article discussing Rense. So he did. After reading the article below, Daryl restored and updated his article.Cyte's Comments On Deceptive StoriesAt any moment in time, each of us is either being a deceiver, being deceived or resisting deception. Only continuous self-checking can give us hope that we are of the third kind.There are two types of deceiving storiesDeception Type A. To state lots of facts to establish credibility, and to deliberately include one relevant falsehood.Deception Type B. To state lots of facts to establish credibility, and to deliberately avoid one relevant truth.To separate truth from falsehood and to decide whether something is deliberate, we have to act like a juror and use our own judgment. We cannot rely on others.I believe that Jeff Rense's website contains too many deceptive stories. His disclaimer clearly states that the selections do not imply endorsement. Still, disproportionate presence of deceptive stories may mislead the readers.I will point out what I believe to be deceptive stories. It is up to the reader to decide whether they are real deceptions, and whether there are too many of them on rense.com."Terrorism War is the Main Terrorism Generator." Isn't Terrell Arnold deceiving us with a lot of facts mixed with the discredited claim that terrorism by Arabs was / is an international threat? Besides, invasions create legitimate resistance fighters, not international terrorists.Abramoff and al-Arian: Lobbyist's "Charity" a Front for Terrorism (linked by Rense on January 4, 2005). Juan Cole gives us a lot of useful facts but he also implies the falsehood that the Palestinian professor al-Arian is a terrorist. Cole falsely implies that Abramoff's case is about right-wing Jews and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, deliberately concealing the truth, the wider dimension, that Abramoff is about Zionist influence in both parties that is steering America into self-destruction and the destruction of others. Cole also plays false prophet and predicts the depressing falsehood that "None of the Jewish extremists...invading the West Bank...will ever be branded 'terrorists' by the US Government, and Abramoff's foray into providing sniper lessons will be quietly buried."Nuclear War Against Iran. Michel Chossudovsky of GlobalResearch.ca starts with the common inevitability falsehood, "launching of an outright war using nuclear warheads against Iran is now in the final planning stages." Have we forgotton Iran-Contra and how the hostage crisis in 1979 helped Reagan get elected? Isn't the Iranian president now helping the administration and Israel restore their credibility with his clownish statements? Iran is an ally in Iraq and Afghanistan and neither the U.S. nor Israel would attack it.False inevitability here, too. Nuclear Attack On Iran Imminent by Greg Szymanski of the Arctic Beacon.I sincerely ask Jeff Rense to look into this. I do not know whether he is aware of how many deceptive stories his website promotes.Maybe Jeff thinks that very few stories are deceptions.Maybe Jeff believes that even including deliberately deceptive stories is fine because we should not censor the internet.God forbid that Jeff knowingly posts lots of deceptive stories on his website.Whatever Jeff does about my request to look into this, I think we are all responsible for using scrutiny and our own judgment to choose what to believe, and what to read.
posted by Cyte at 5:00 PM

30 Comments:

Hey Zionists!Your evil empire is crumbling. 1) Adolf Sharon is 'brain dead', 2) the housing bubble that your orchestrated (so that you can "transfer wealth from the people to yourselves") will backfire -- by causing a mass riot and civil war. Now think about it... Do you think you have enough ray guns, tanks, police, soldiers for every man, woman and child in America?! They'll be pissed when they discover it was you who took their "homes" away from them.3) Latin America is kicking your Zionist balls!!!4) Iran will start the IOB in March. You attack them, they will return the 'favour'. You "false flag" them or "sabotage" them, they do the same to you... Yisrael is corrupt to its bones... Ahhh.... There's too many to say, your Zionist empire is falling apart.... BOO HOO YOUUU.Like we say, "what goes around comes around..."
By Anonymous, at 1/05/2006 5:32 PM

Please stick to the subject. I will delete off-topic comments.
By Cyte, at 1/05/2006 6:31 PM

Our leaders, including some internet leaders, have cynically misled us into fearing terrorism and distorting the religion of Islam. We fear what we don't know.Enough of this.We want higher standards on our blog-sites. Less opinion, more real on-the-record sources. Less entertainment, more professionalism.Thank you for a timely and intuitive piece.
By I. M., at 1/05/2006 9:14 PM

Illuminati dictator Sharon will be gone soon.Michael Chertoff is being asked to resign by Harry Reid and others. Israel's pitiful nuclear war on Syria will be cut short. The people are waking up from their "riotous" experiment and the Zionists will never play with us or the Jewish or Islams again!!!!TIME TO PLAY
By Anonymous, at 1/05/2006 9:29 PM

It just occurred to me that Rense is mixing alien stuff with 9-11 and zionism to create the impression that people who complain about 9-11 AND zionism are all lunatics.When a person decides to look on the Internet about 9-11 or zionism, if they discover the Rense site, they will get a bad image of us.We have to counteract Rense by spreading this type of information about Rense to show people that he cannot be trusted. Spread this page!
By Anonymous, at 1/05/2006 10:34 PM

Cyte,May I suggest discrediting Rense viciously until he retracts the alien comments?He is simply trying to "discredit" the movement. Another played black-op boy by the wonderful government of Israel.It should be easy to do, and then get this site into even larger search engines. They can not shut down US Justice Dept..... We are going to win.
By Anonymous, at 1/06/2006 2:55 AM

I am not accusing Jeff Rense or condemning him. I am simply asking him to look into the matter.Maybe Jeff will make changes after he realizes that an editor's selections do matter.
By Cyte, at 1/06/2006 4:17 PM

IMHO, Jeff Rense is trying to break the conformity on a lot of issues.UFOs don't get serious press, so they get Rense.Chupacabras don't get serious press, so they get Rense.And the viewing public likes Rense! The serious press is losing viewers/readers.Rense and his ilk are gaining.Rense doesn't have to be perfect or a great fact-checker -- there can be other sites for that. E.g. Wayne Madsen, d-n-i.net, counterpunch.com, etc.Rense is the thin end of the wedge. If you want to read about the stories that the serious press kills, go to Rense.And then feel free to ignore the 90% of Rense's stuff that doesn't interest you and fact-check the 10% for yourself.By the way, don't bother trying to "discredit" Rense. You won't get very far. He isn't trying to be reputable -- he's trying to break the taboo. And he's been succeeding for quite a few years. A few bloggers "discrediting" him won't even slow him down.
By Anonymous, at 1/07/2006 3:38 PM

Skunk of Liberty Forum [LF] said that Rense was threatened by Zionists:I was informed by Rense that he was contacted by members [of LF] to stop running Judicials articles, when he refused, he had a series of threats. He has now informed me he has terminated our relationship.The focus on Israel highlighted the phony bombs, the Rachel Corries, the killing of children.
By Cyte, at 1/09/2006 5:49 PM

The Zionists are playing their sensorship game FULL TIME.If you pay attention the Zionists are spreading DIS-INFORMATION, LIES, and MISLEADING STORIES. In addition, they are "infiltrating" and "black-mailing", "Coercing" and "threatening" MANY SITES and NEWS OUTLETS.Learn how to filter their propaganda, and you'll be fine. But, help your friends and family. Educate them. The time is coming, with the Nutjob, Nutayannnn (goof who is going to take over from Adolf Sharon) ....March 2006 ---- IRAN, IRAQ, and of course ISRAEL.Prepare for the Zionists FALSE FLAG TERROR ATTACKS (just like 911, USS Liberty, Asian Tsunami of 2004 off Jakarta, etc)....
By Anonymous, at 1/10/2006 5:27 AM

Ok, look. I was the one who kicked you down 15. And I was the one who promoted this site on Darryl's show. But the true fact is it is Darryl Bradford Smith that is doing damage. Who is Smith? Why is he so obssessed with smearing Rense? Why is he so obssessed with Jews and Zionism? At first I was promoting him because of his covering zionism. Now I am very suspicious of him. His "story" has changed numerous times. He himself claims that he knew nothing two years ago. That he was duped like everyone else when Dean was running for pres. Now in the span of a year and a half hes all of a sudden an expert? All he does is attempt to divide the few people who are telling the truth. I believe in UFOs and I believe that zionists have their hands very dirty. Smith is a fuckin retard and needs mind his own friggin business. I am sick of hearing him bitch and whine every single friggin day.
By mondo, at 1/11/2006 7:21 PM

HEy, it's me again. Now why is it that Smith would post something like this? People who truly believe aliens are flying around the earth should get out of the 9/11 movement and stop pretending they they are 9/11 researchers. We don't need idiots in this movement. Does that sound like the rationale of someone sane? So I'm an idiot than cuz I believe in UFO's? The guy is a mole. He is completely OBSSESSED with zionism. You cannot bring anything else into the picture. He even goes so far as the argue with his own guests who tell him there is more than ximply jews involved. He won't hear it. Then he has the audacity to smear everyone else? (kaminski, jones, rense, etc) I am soooo sick of that whining fat pig. Hey Smith, Ive done alot to support you over the past 5 or 6 months, no more. Stop your bitching and crying and take off your skirt. If you cant prove that Rense is a mole than STFU! I read your whining attack on Rense and it was totally pathetic. What a cheap shot, attacking the guys stepmom because she works for Architectual Digest? Is that the best you can do? You sound like a 8 year old. Plus, you have the audacity to attack Rense about his website? What about yours? YOu can't use spell check?
By mondo, at 1/11/2006 7:30 PM

One last thing Smith and Eric, if you think anyone is fooled by you quoting Anonymous" in your attack piece on Rense, you really are stupid. I would guess about 99% of us saw right through that immediately. You guys are the ones who posted that remark about "UFO's and 9-11"? Is it possible that a radio guy might want to talk about things other than zionism? I guess in your world that would make him a fake? Get a clue moron. I really had high hopes for you. PIty/
By Anonymous, at 1/11/2006 7:33 PM

Hilarious. Smith is smearing Rense and can't even spell out the name "Netanyahu"? LMAO.
By Anonymous, at 1/11/2006 7:43 PM

Hey Cyte, Smith spent a half hour the other day slamming Kaminski saying 'Kaminski should be investigated' and calling for the 'NSA' to 'spy on him'. Why you ask? Because Smith wrote that he cannot be trusted because of the fact that he takes donations on his website. So why does he back you? I mean I know you don't make shit on this site... Do you see how backwards his logic is? Total hypocrite. Thats just one example. I see others have already b een pointed out. I would have to agree with mondo...I like your site and I think theres something wrong with Smith. Be careful.
By Anonymous, at 1/11/2006 7:49 PM

Oh come on guys. Now you're censoring me? I posted two comments about an hour ago and you took them down? I hope not. In any case, I don't want to see you get involved in Smith's nonsense. Rense has been around for a decade, Where was Smith in 2003? I thought I would point out all the stuff that Smith DOESNT cover....The war in Iraq.The war in Afghanistan.The Gaza situation.UFO's.I mean there is so much more going on in the world. You think a guy who's on the radio every single day for two hours could possibly talk about anything other than Zionism? Right now Rense has on Dahr Jamail. i guess Dahr is a zionist as well? What a drag. I'd been reading Dahr for two years. I guess he took all those photos of dead Iraqis to help out Israel?
By mondo, at 1/11/2006 8:24 PM

Smith is a disinformation artist.Both Daryl Smith, Conolson and now Art Bell are jumping into the game of disinforming everybody.They have connections to Zionist Jews cyte, follow the money.It needs to be shut down, period. They are using outrageous bullshit to try to discredit us and then there's people like Jeff Rense who are under their influence, being paid to peddle the bullshit.We've got to draw the line right now
By Anonymous, at 1/11/2006 8:45 PM

We need to stick to analyzing issues and actions, and avoid personal attacks.
By Cyte, at 1/12/2006 5:29 PM

I totally agree. So don't let Smith pull you into this nonsense. You said we have to focus on the issues. So why is it that Smith spends half his time badmouthing people like Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, David Icke, and John Kaminiski?The bottom line is that jews are not doing it all. Take a look at the Jesuits and Freemasons. They are, without a doubt, heavily involved. All you have to do is look at the CFR membership list if you want to name names. I guarantee you that they are not all Jews and/or zionists. This is a satanic thing. They are setting up a one world government.It is NOT a solely jewish thing.I suggest you look into Eric John Phelps research over at www.vaticanassassins.org
By mondo, at 1/12/2006 7:39 PM

Every one of those can be scrutinized on the issues.
By Cyte, at 1/12/2006 8:20 PM

Don't say Jews, it is Talmudists. They include Shiites and some Christian groups, yes.
By Cyte, at 1/12/2006 8:22 PM

MondoI took some independent studies under Jesuits some years ago. They were emphatic about "thinking things thru to their logical conclusions" and not to assume anything you hear or read as being the truth.You really don't think that the seven Jesuits killed, like in El Salvador during the 1970s, (by right wing US trained death squads) were Illuminati, do you? And what about the Barigan brothers? I don't buy it if you do. They were extremely strong on using a critical and analytical approach to arrive at logical conclusions. The problem with Daryl Smith is that he has trouble with the concept of using a simple syllogism to weigh his argument. For example: Many people who hate Zionist have seen UFO's. Some Jesuits have seen UFO's. Therefore both anti Zionist and Jesuits have seen UFO's. Smith claims that he was educated by Jesuits and respected them. I know of one Jesuit who said he had witnessed what he believed was a UFO.I wrote and called Smith on this issue because during my military service, in the Strategic Air Command, I witnessed, along with other airmen, what the Air Force itself classifies as an Unidentified Flying Object. This didn't just happen once, but on several occasions.I am also strongly anti-Zionist, yet Smith wrote back and told me, "To get over it and think straight and forget that crap." He, being an ex Navy flight deck hand, had to have heard stories by fellow crew men and pilots about UFOs, at least a few times in his life. This pissed me off and revealed that he has a very closed mind and thinks that anyone having experienced the phenomena is wacky! I don't like his tone in this regard as it questions his motives for making trained observers look like ass holes.Even though when by daughter came right home after witnessing the second attack on the WTC asked me what I thought was going on, I pull her aside and told her I thought it was most likely an Anglo American Israeli operation! She stared at me like I was out of my mind. How did I sense this? I like to think the Jesuits help to see thru the bullshit and see things as they really are.
By Tiger Eye, at 1/12/2006 11:27 PM

The Neoconservative PersuasionAcknowledging the Jewishness of neoconservatism has always triggered the red, flashing lights of antisemitism, especially since the start of the Iraq War (with extra points if it's Pat Buchanan doing the acknowledging). But there is some truth to the suspicion. If there is an intellectual movement in America to whose invention Jews can lay sole claim, neoconservatism is it. It's a thought one imagines most American Jews, overwhelmingly liberal, will find horrifying. And yet it is a fact that as a political philosophy, neoconservatism was born among the children of Jewish immigrants and is now largely the intellectual domain of those immigrants' grandchildren. Understanding what might be Jewish about this movement (or "persuasion" as its godfather, Irving Kristol, prefers it be called) should be possible without being accused of conspiracy theorizing about secret cabals pulling strings for Israel.>>>>>>>>>> http://www.forward.com/main/printer-friendly.php?id=7102
By Anonymous, at 1/13/2006 5:27 PM

Please do not post off-topic, even if interesting.
By Cyte, at 1/14/2006 11:14 AM

The Yiddish people are the Khazar Jews. Every one of them is Yiddish, Khazars who are among the Jesuits,Freemasons,Jewish,Catholic, they are everywhere.Yes they are all the same thing....the Yiddish is a devil's tribe period.It really happened
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By Anonymous, at 1/15/2006 9:12 AM

HEY WAR-MONGERING JEWS, I've got some news for ya...Israel is a nuclear power, by most estimates the 6th most powerful in the world. Not only do they have nuclear warheads but they have delivery systems, including US-supplied cruise missiles launched from their German-supplied submarines.If Iran was a threat, both the US and Israel could flatten the place and have done with it. What the US and Israel WANT, and the real reason to actually invade the place, is Iran itself; oil for the US, and Israel as the unquestioned top power in the region.And they want to spend YOUR money and YOUR children to do it.
By Anonymous, at 1/15/2006 9:13 AM

The holocaust hoax DOESN'T exscuse the evil the Zionists did in Europe.They still killed millions not of their blood and russiahs. It DOES explain it however.The true test, and underlying silv of the Illuminati is that these "Jewish" bankers are in fact YIDDISH Bankers, therefore they are not hebrew at all.Torah followers who "call themselves Jew" are really Hebrews, the only true people of Judea are the Palestinians, Paladins and Hebrews who are left over.Everyone else is a Yiddish banker, a disease known as Khazar Turks.Save the MalesIf Iran can get that across we can stop these bastards!!!
By Anonymous, at 1/16/2006 3:05 PM

I deleted a long post by anonymous. I saved it to look at it later.
By Cyte, at 1/17/2006 4:00 PM