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Subject: RE: [news_sense] 9/11
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 11:52:35 +1100
From: Gerard Holmgren <holmgren@iinet.net.au>
To: 'Rosalee Grable' <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>, 'Nico Haupt'
<nicohaupt2@yahoo.com>
PWS wrote
[[Follow the silences. The things nobody wants to discuss.]]
You mean like the BTS findings which indicate that neither flight 11 nor 77
existed?
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/1177.html
Hofffman's response
How Mark Rabinowitz and Jim Hoffman lied about the BTS database.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/rabidbts.html
And the fake passenger lists for the mythical AA 11 ?
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/fake.html
Total words written by Hoffman on this subject - zero.
You mean that even if one believes that there were hijacked planes that the
airforce would have to been stood down ?
Jim Hoffman trashes the Sept 11 stand down evidence
http://members.iinet.au/~holmgren/hoffmanstanddown.html
You mean that big old jet, which all just *know* flew into the Pentagon,
squeezing through a hole many times smaller than itself, after doing a
miraculous spine bending arch maneuver over the cable spools in the way, and
then disappearing into planehugger land ?
HOFFMAN AND THE PENTAGON
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/320469.shtml?discuss#186921
HOW HOFFMAN DISTORTS EVIDENCE
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/320469.shtml?discuss#186929
You mean the fact that no planes hit any buildings?
http://members,iinet.net.au/~holmgren/noplanework.html
The (Phantom )planes meme. Adapted from 911review.com
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/meme.html
Hoffman the plagiarist
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/320469.shtml?discuss#186867
Hoffman the spook.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/320469.shtml?discuss#186880
But PWS accidentally said something true
[[Do not let anybody
>> mislead you about Jim Hoffman...his main concern has always seemed to me
to be the truth]]
Indeed. Hoffman is very concerned about what might happen if the truth comes
out. After all, it's his job to make sure that it doesn't and his employers
tend to play a little rough with those who fail.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rosalee Grable [mailto:webfairy@thewebfairy.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2006 9:44 AM
To: Gerard Holmgren; Nico Haupt
Subject: Re: [news_sense] 9/11
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> On 5-Feb-06, at 9:02 AM, Peter Wakefield Sault wrote:
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>> The following is the text of an e-mail written to Peter Meyer of
>> serendipity.li on 2nd Feb 2006. All comments welcome.
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>> The Israelis are trying to split those **/sane/** 9/11 researchers
>> who are getting too close to the truth and to set them against one
>> another. It's the tactic of first recourse. Do not let anybody
>> mislead you about Jim Hoffman. I have had 1-2-1 conversations with
>> him and his main concern has always seemed to me to be the truth come
>> what may. I have a copy of one of his books, 'Waking up from Our
>> Nightmare - The 9/11/01 Crimes in NYC' (with Don Paul), which he very
>> kindly gave to me and I thoroughly recommend it. You have to remember
>> - Larry Silverstein is protected by the libel laws. Unless one can
>> **/prove/** in a court of law that he secretly allowed Mossad
>> demolition experts into the buildings he owned for the purpose of
>> setting demolition charges, one is very much going out on a limb by
>> accusing him of that. I do so myself by even so much as *suggesting*
>> that is what *might* have happened. In fact I risk not so much a
>> libel suit as a knock at the door in the middle of the night and
>> probably only increase my risk of it by saying as much.
>>
>> The Israelis are terrified of the truth about Larry Silverstein's
>> role as a Mossad sayan and his connection with all three, and only
>> those three, buildings which were demolished being openly discussed.
>> Larry Silverstein, president of the Israel Export Development
>> Corporation; an open admission of Zionism and a classic cover for a
>> Mossad agent. Larry Silverstein who was quoted in the Newark NJ Star
>> Ledger only 8 weeks before the atrocities of 9/11 as having said (I
>> paraphrase but accurately) while looking out of his penthouse suite
>> atop WTC7 (which he himself had *built*) at WTC1 and WTC2 that he
>> "would not be overshadowed for long by the Towers". That was the day
>> he got the symbolic key to the Towers. There was a big picture of
>> him, holding this giant golden key (about a yard long), alongside the
>> article. It should still all be there in the Star Ledger archives.
>> Unfortunately I no longer live in NJ so cannot volunteer to go
>> through the microfiche. I might just be able to persuade a friend to
>> get a facsimile for us, although she does live way over on the PA border.
>>
>> I think it distinctly possible that the demolitions were a Mossad
>> plot riding on the back of the airplane hijacking plot, which they
>> could not fail to have known all about, the US gov being both behind
>> the 'hijackings' and full of Pollards and Franklins (not to mention
>> Dov Zakheim!!!). What is the US gov, which engineered the hijackings,
>> going to say about it EVEN IF IT KNOWS? They let the Five Dancing
>> Israelis (i.e. Mossad monitoring team) go in the end, if you recall.
>> Essentially that was the day the USA got the BIG FINGER from Israel,
>> right up its backside, as a warning not to interfere in Palestine.
>> And George W. Bush duly did a u-turn on Palestine that very day, a
>> fact never mentioned by the Israel-friendly mass media.
>>
>> Follow the silences. The things nobody wants to discuss.
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>> After sending, it occurred to me that even if the Mossad demolition
>> crew theory is correct, Larry Silverstein himself may not have known
>> about the demolition charges and may have thought Mossad was
>> installing only surveillance equipment. However, Peter Meyer pointed
>> out that this would be inconsistent with the notion that the
>> demolition plot was at least in part an insurance scam.
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