Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group: Blog Post about Michael B. Green

I agree. That's what it looks like from this angle too:
http://thewebfairy.com/911/saltergate


perpetualynquisitive wrote:
> Are you referring to this object
> <http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20060207094130a1yx.jpg> ?
>
> That "bulge" sticking out of the North side of WTC2 is consistent with
> a "Flight Sim" model, shadow and all.
>
> Looks like someone messed up their timing and didn't hit pause fast
> enough on their game, as pausing 1 second earlier would have prevented
> the "telltale" fuselage from being visible coming out the North side.
>
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "ron_winn" <ron_winn@...> wrote:
> >
> > May be, but it seems a very elaborate special effect to give the
> impression that something is passing through the inside and what pops
> out has passed the test of time [no argument as to its authencity] and
> that is a missile warhead. What that special effect would be achieving
> is that "their 175" was still going strong with its starboard wing
> stub cutting through the wall. It's requires too much thought process
> of both them and the public. It wasn't needed. You see, the concept of
> the plane in/missile out doesn't fit in with a no plane scenario. It
> needed to be adjusted to - no plane in/missile out. We can't argue a
> no plane scenario when we infer "plane in" but argue against missile
> out. Anyone like to counter that that is not a missile warhead popping
> out the north wall?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rosalee Grable
> > To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group:
> Blog Post about Michael B. Green
> >
> >
> > Nothing says those are "wings cutting through the building." That's WAY
> > TOO Cartoon.
> > More likely the side of the building is being raked by a tesla
> cannon or
> > even preplanted explosives from some hollywood special effects
> department.
> > Farking wings would not stay attached and would not be karate-chopping
> > their way through floors and walls intact like superman.
> > That's silly stuff.
> >
> >
> > ron_winn wrote:
> > > Anything launched like that is too small, Nico.
> > > The clips "Plane In/Missile Out" gives us the size And it had small
> > > wings that can be seen cutting through the building on the outside
> not
> > > small fins.
> > > Missiles could have been used as a distraction when looking outward
> > > there is no looking inward.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > *From:* Nico Haupt <mailto:nicohaupt@...
> > > *To:* 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Cc:* alexldent@... <mailto:alexldent@...
> > > *Sent:* Friday, February 10, 2006 5:03 PM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from
> > > Group: Blog Post about Michael B. Green
> > >
> > > > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> > > > Von: "alexldent" alexldent@... <mailto:alexldent@...>
> > > > An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group:
> > > Blog Post
> > > > about Michael B. Green
> > > > Datum: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:59:44 -0000
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't believe, they came from a ship. Too many witnesses, too long
> > > distance.
> > >
> > > I believe, the missiles were handshouldered or from a device in a
> > > downtown
> > > building. Unfortunately we never really mapped that area,
> > > comparing with the
> > > video clips, so that everything is a kind of speculation, but my
> > > favourite
> > > buildings are still woolworth building, wtc 7 or maybe even one of
> > > the US
> > > Military Helicopters, operated by a mercenary, who later got
> > > killed in a
> > > third country.
> > >
> > >
> > > >>>>Okay. Now-- what are you saying about what the F16s were
> > > doing going
> > > out to the ocean? And are you saying the missiles came from a US Navy
> > > ship or not?<<<
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> > > Okay. Now-- what are you saying about what the F16s were doing going
> > > out to the ocean? And are you saying the missiles came from a US Navy
> > > ship or not?
> > >
> > > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "ron_winn" ron_winn@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's this word elements within that needs a definition. Many are
> > > naming the element within as people in the administration but there
> > > are of course other elements. Religious, political, military,
> > > environmentalists, business & criminal elements.
> > > >
> > > > Not only does the word terrorism need defining but inside job needs
> > > one too. A few have defined what they mean as an inside job. But other
> > > use an inside job to encompass all the above elements which only
> > > infers that that excludes those accused in the official story. It
> > > might help the "movement" if an "inside job" was defined. It might be
> > > more of a selling point if what was put to the people was "al Qaida
> > > didn't do 9/11. How could they when 67(?) times in the past smaller
> > > aircraft have been located in American skies and got themselves a
> > > fighter escort."
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: alexldent
> > > > To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:39 PM
> > > > Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group:
> > > Blog Post about Michael B. Green
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You are touching on a fascinating idea-- that the navy shot the
> > > missiles that
> > > > were used on 9/11 and the F16s were sent out to check out what the
> > > navy
> > > > was doing (?)-- but I really don't follow your overall point.
> > > Maybe the problem
> > > > is just semantics on what "inside job" means. What is your
> > > definition of "inside
> > > > job"? Mine is simply that some elements of the USG were involved
> > > actively in
> > > > the attacks.
> > > >
> > > > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "ron_winn" <ron_winn@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > We know that F16's were sent out to sea which has never really
> > > been
> > > > explained. In fact it seems such a stupid thing to do. Or else too
> > > obvious
> > > > sending them on a wild goose chase as if to get them away from
> > > where they
> > > > might hinder the "inside job". NORAD say that every defence system
> > > was
> > > > pointing outwards towards an external threat. What forms of
> > > external threat is
> > > > there? Well, many speak of missiles. Missiles have to be
> > > lauched from
> > > > somewhere. Also why was the US Navy made ready soon after 9/11 was
> > > all
> > > > but over? What was the Navy going to do that the airforce couldn't
> > > and
> > > > apparently didn't on the day? The threats, we are told were purely
> > > domestic
> > > > flights. The atc's, the FAA and all other agencies were
> > > concentrating of
> > > > domestic flights. So NORAD sends out the F16's out to sea [and
> > > Lord knows
> > > > where the F15's got to] sounds very stupid, right. Do you think
> > > the pilots would
> > > > have been so silent if they knew they had been sent on a fools'
> > > errand?
> > > > >
> > > > > IMO F16's were not sent on a wild goose chase and the Navy
> > > wasn't made
> > > > ready for a "domestic" inside job that was all but over. You can
> > > speak of
> > > > missiles but they had to come in from somewhere. And F16's sent up
> > > must
> > > > have been sent up with a purpose and that wasn't surely to get
> > > them out of the
> > > > way. The threat was "in your face" domestic. The military are not
> > > dumb. That
> > > > fits in too conveniently with the case of negligence that gets the
> > > admin off the
> > > > hook. You think the airforce F16's would have done a "victory"
> > > flyover at the
> > > > Pentagon if they had just come back from a wild goose chase.
> > > > >
> > > > > You see, it looks too obviously an inside job although that is
> > > not to say
> > > > assistance had to be obtained from insiders. This goes to the
> > > point and the
> > > > question - why if it was an purely an inside job wouldn't 767's
> > > >from their
> > > > graveyard in the desert have been used. If they had we wouldn't be
> > > here
> > > > today engaged in our search for the truth.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: alexldent
> > > > > To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:04 AM
> > > > > Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from
> > > Group: Blog
> > > > Post about Michael B. Green
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >>> I've never been convinced of an inside job although I have
> > > an open
> > > > > mind.<<<
> > > > >
> > > > > Wha????? If it wasn't an inside job, what were they
> > > covering up?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "ron_winn"
> > > <ron_winn@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your link doesn't work.
> > > > > > Unfortunately the other one does.
> > > > > > Interesting statement because if two real 767's or
> > > substitutes were
> > > > > in the plan then "11" would have been a scheduled flight. And
> > > so would
> > > > > "77". Or both flights would have been reported to be private
> > > charters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Something flew into the north tower and to hastily cover up
> > > what it
> > > > > was flight "11" was used.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've never been convinced of an inside job although I have
> > > an open
> > > > > mind. So far there is enough to support a hasty cover up. The
> > > Pentagon
> > > > > attack being the most speedily concocted one, I believe.
> > > Although 93
> > > > > is running a close second.
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Bill Giltner
> > > > > > To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:19 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Request for Critique from
> > > Group: Blog
> > > > > Post about Michael B. Green
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Check out my blog post here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > http://bgtruth.blogspot.com/2006/02/we-believe-that-senior-
> > > > government.HTML
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here's my main point:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Additional Commentary by this Blogger:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where Dr. Green goes horribly wrong: (is this on purpose?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "To put matters plainly: any substitute plane would be an
> > > exact
> > > > > duplicate of
> > > > > > AA11 or UA175. To do anything else would be inviting
> > > disaster. "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/green/loose_change.html
> > > > > >
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> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group: Blog
> Post about Michael B. Green
> Datum: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:26:25 -0600
>

hmm, i forgot about that explanation. Maybe ignore my earlier thoughts...

>>>I agree. That's what it looks like from this angle too:
http://thewebfairy.com/911/saltergate <<<

perpetualynquisitive wrote:
> Are you referring to this object
> <http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20060207094130a1yx.jpg> ?
>
> That "bulge" sticking out of the North side of WTC2 is consistent with
> a "Flight Sim" model, shadow and all.
>
> Looks like someone messed up their timing and didn't hit pause fast
> enough on their game, as pausing 1 second earlier would have prevented
> the "telltale" fuselage from being visible coming out the North side.<<<<

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