out to the ocean? And are you saying the missiles came from a US Navy
ship or not?
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "ron_winn" <ron_winn@...> wrote:
>
> It's this word elements within that needs a definition. Many are
naming the element within as people in the administration but there
are of course other elements. Religious, political, military,
environmentalists, business & criminal elements.
>
> Not only does the word terrorism need defining but inside job needs
one too. A few have defined what they mean as an inside job. But other
use an inside job to encompass all the above elements which only
infers that that excludes those accused in the official story. It
might help the "movement" if an "inside job" was defined. It might be
more of a selling point if what was put to the people was "al Qaida
didn't do 9/11. How could they when 67(?) times in the past smaller
aircraft have been located in American skies and got themselves a
fighter escort."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: alexldent
> To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:39 PM
> Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group:
Blog Post about Michael B. Green
>
>
> You are touching on a fascinating idea-- that the navy shot the
missiles that
> were used on 9/11 and the F16s were sent out to check out what the
navy
> was doing (?)-- but I really don't follow your overall point.
Maybe the problem
> is just semantics on what "inside job" means. What is your
definition of "inside
> job"? Mine is simply that some elements of the USG were involved
actively in
> the attacks.
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "ron_winn" <ron_winn@>
> wrote:
> >
> > We know that F16's were sent out to sea which has never really
been
> explained. In fact it seems such a stupid thing to do. Or else too
obvious
> sending them on a wild goose chase as if to get them away from
where they
> might hinder the "inside job". NORAD say that every defence system
was
> pointing outwards towards an external threat. What forms of
external threat is
> there? Well, many speak of missiles. Missiles have to be lauched from
> somewhere. Also why was the US Navy made ready soon after 9/11 was
all
> but over? What was the Navy going to do that the airforce couldn't
and
> apparently didn't on the day? The threats, we are told were purely
domestic
> flights. The atc's, the FAA and all other agencies were
concentrating of
> domestic flights. So NORAD sends out the F16's out to sea [and
Lord knows
> where the F15's got to] sounds very stupid, right. Do you think
the pilots would
> have been so silent if they knew they had been sent on a fools'
errand?
> >
> > IMO F16's were not sent on a wild goose chase and the Navy
wasn't made
> ready for a "domestic" inside job that was all but over. You can
speak of
> missiles but they had to come in from somewhere. And F16's sent up
must
> have been sent up with a purpose and that wasn't surely to get
them out of the
> way. The threat was "in your face" domestic. The military are not
dumb. That
> fits in too conveniently with the case of negligence that gets the
admin off the
> hook. You think the airforce F16's would have done a "victory"
flyover at the
> Pentagon if they had just come back from a wild goose chase.
> >
> > You see, it looks too obviously an inside job although that is
not to say
> assistance had to be obtained from insiders. This goes to the
point and the
> question - why if it was an purely an inside job wouldn't 767's
>from their
> graveyard in the desert have been used. If they had we wouldn't be
here
> today engaged in our search for the truth.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: alexldent
> > To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:04 AM
> > Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from
Group: Blog
> Post about Michael B. Green
> >
> >
> > >>> I've never been convinced of an inside job although I have
an open
> > mind.<<<
> >
> > Wha????? If it wasn't an inside job, what were they covering up?
> >
> >
> > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "ron_winn" <ron_winn@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Your link doesn't work.
> > > Unfortunately the other one does.
> > > Interesting statement because if two real 767's or
substitutes were
> > in the plan then "11" would have been a scheduled flight. And
so would
> > "77". Or both flights would have been reported to be private
charters.
> > >
> > > Something flew into the north tower and to hastily cover up
what it
> > was flight "11" was used.
> > >
> > > I've never been convinced of an inside job although I have
an open
> > mind. So far there is enough to support a hasty cover up. The
Pentagon
> > attack being the most speedily concocted one, I believe.
Although 93
> > is running a close second.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Bill Giltner
> > > To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:19 PM
> > > Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Request for Critique from
Group: Blog
> > Post about Michael B. Green
> > >
> > >
> > > Check out my blog post here:
> > >
> > >
> > http://bgtruth.blogspot.com/2006/02/we-believe-that-senior-
> government.HTML
> > >
> > > Here's my main point:
> > >
> > > Additional Commentary by this Blogger:
> > >
> > > Where Dr. Green goes horribly wrong: (is this on purpose?)
> > >
> > > "To put matters plainly: any substitute plane would be an
exact
> > duplicate of
> > > AA11 or UA175. To do anything else would be inviting
disaster. "
> > >
> > > http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/green/loose_change.html
> > >
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> Von: "alexldent" <alexldent@yahoo.com>
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> Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group: Blog Post
> about Michael B. Green
> Datum: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:59:44 -0000
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I don't believe, they came from a ship. Too many witnesses, too long
distance.
I believe, the missiles were handshouldered or from a device in a downtown
building. Unfortunately we never really mapped that area, comparing with the
video clips, so that everything is a kind of speculation, but my favourite
buildings are still woolworth building, wtc 7 or maybe even one of the US
Military Helicopters, operated by a mercenary, who later got killed in a
third country.
>>>>Okay. Now-- what are you saying about what the F16s were doing going
out to the ocean? And are you saying the missiles came from a US Navy
ship or not?<<<
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