Thursday, February 16, 2006

Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: How many people were in on the conspiracy?

 
if this gets chopped go to myspace.com, then forum: then ploitics, then general, then S11

Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com> wrote:
URL please?

I want to see what Rick Siegel is posting~~


greg nixon wrote:
> i'll hold off so as not make any discomfort. I battle some trolls at
> myspace where Rick siegal posts heavily as well as a CA guy named
> "Merc" ( a no planer)
> I keep telling people to read the "terror drills" but many are too lazy.

> No biggie thanks though anyway.

>
> */Nico Haupt <nicohaupt@gmx.li>/* wrote:
>
>     > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>     > Von: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
>     > An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
>     > Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: How many people were in on the
>     > conspiracy?
>     > Datum: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:44:36 -0800 (PST)
>
>     well for another list maybe but it is not perfect and drafted
>     enough for a
>     public posting.
>
>     I'm too detail obsessed and would add names first or the links to my
>     article. There is also a specific hierarchy involved, which i
>     didn't mention
>     either :)
>
>     However, keep going in the spirit of open source, you can post it
>     in another
>     list...
>
>
>     > Nico,
>     >  
>     >   permission to post this most excellent and concise response
>     elswhere?
>     >  
>     >   Greg
>     >
>     > Nico Haupt <nicohaupt@gmx.li> wrote:
>     >   > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>     > > Von: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
>     > > An: Ed Barner <edwinatlcom.net@mindspring.com>,
>     > > 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
>     > > Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: How many people were in on the
>     > conspiracy?
>     > > Datum: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:17:42 -0600
>     > >
>     >
>     >
>     > Ed,
>     >
>     > i answered this question a long time ago.
>     > First in 2002, then in 2004 in my article series "the lost
>     terror drill"
>     >
>     > But you have first to learn to distinguish between the official
>     'plotline'
>     > and the 'military operation'.
>     >
>     > You can deceive as much people into a plotline, without telling
>     them the
>     > true outcome. All alleged suspects got killed or didn't exist.
>     > In case of additional actors they got killed as well.
>     >
>     > BlackOP helicopter pilots got possibly killed in Afghanistan,
>     Pakistan or
>     > Iraq in a combat or within the alleged helicopter crash accidents.
>     >
>     > 90% of the crew of the military operation died as a passengers
>     on the
>     > alleged flights, in reality reboarded and/or killed at different
>     locations
>     > than official version. Another percentage got killed in
>     Pentagon, WTC 1, 2
>     > and 7, maybe even captured in 6 and 5.
>     >
>     >
>     > The helping hands, most of them involved in a real time terror drill
>     > exercise, are related with their handlers who are sitting in the
>     military
>     > and oil think tanks.
>     > I gave names. They also worked closely with PNAC members, which
>     itself are
>     > just puppets.
>     >
>     > Both wars had been planned by different pentagon crews,
>     unrelated to 9/11,
>     > i.e. Charles Holland at Tampa.
>     >
>     > If you look for masterminds, then you will end up in some grey
>     zones, but
>     > i
>     > gave names as well.
>     > Think Reagan Crew 80s, Kissinger/Baker plus new power brokers from
>     > military/intel  contractors. Think World Bank, Federal Reserve
>     and major
>     > oil
>     > pipeline project managers.
>     > Historians and Revisionist often simplify the mastermind
>     > into Mossad, CIA and MI5/6 (with moles at Saudi and pakistani
>     > intelligence),but i think the real masterminds used these fronts as
>     > puppets
>     > as well.
>     >
>     > If it comes to intel, you also have to distinguish between
>     plotline and
>     > military operation. I gave name of producers for the MO, from
>     Titan to
>     > Anzus.
>     >
>     > What plotline depends, i have a much bigger profile for dutch
>     and german
>     > intelligence than the usual 'saudi distraction'.
>     > Now you know why Jaap de Hoop Scheffer and Schroeder got promoted.
>     > They don't even need to know who did the real 9/11. They did
>     their own
>     > limited hangout in time on pending 'terror attacks'
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > >>>>This is an interesting question.
>     > I post it to 911insidejobbers.
>     > I think it is a coven of 13 in Lictenstien communicating
>     directly with
>     > demonics who can see beyond time.
>     >
>     >
>     > Ed Barner wrote:
>     > > Hi Rosalee.
>     > > What's your take?
>     > > Forward this if you agree with any of it. If not, its just
>     between us.
>     > >
>     > > How many people were  in on the 9/11 conspiracy?
>     > >
>     > > Critics of the 9/11 movement say that 9/11 could not have been a
>     > > domestic conspiracy because it would have taken such a large
>     number of
>     > > conspirators to carry it off.
>     > > That does sound logical,  but it's not really necessary that
>     it take
>     > > that many.<<
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>     >
>     > This is an interesting question.
>     > I post it to 911insidejobbers.
>     > I think it is a coven of 13 in Lictenstien communicating
>     directly with
>     > demonics who can see beyond time.
>     >
>     >
>     > Ed Barner wrote:
>     > > Hi Rosalee.
>     > > What's your take?
>     > > Forward this if you agree with any of it. If not, its just
>     between us.
>     > >
>     > > How many people were  in on the 9/11 conspiracy?
>     > >
>     > > Critics of the 9/11 movement say that 9/11 could not have been a
>     > > domestic conspiracy because it would have taken such a large
>     number of
>     > > conspirators to carry it off.
>     > > That does sound logical,  but it's not really necessary that
>     it take
>     > > that many.
>     > >
>     > > This post is speculative for future comparisons to the
>     eventual truth.
>     > > but 9/11 could have been brought about with as few as 100
>     > > conspirators.
>     > > It would only take about 40 order givers and possibly 60 more
>     > > informed insiders who were order takers.
>     > > All others could be hoodwinked and co-opted.
>     > >
>     > > It really didn't take a large number of people.
>     > >
>     > > The corporate controlled media just went about its usual job of
>     > > ignoring all of the right things. They don't necessarily know the
>     > > truth.
>     > > The military just followed orders.
>     > > The elected officials who were out of the loop, just went about
>     > > ignoring anything that looked vaguely like a black op, as usual.
>     > >
>     > > The flim flam of the world could have been done by 100  order
>     giving
>     > > insiders.
>     > >
>     > > As an aside, The ones who may not have been in the know, who might
>     > > talk if pressed, are the flight controllers.
>     > >
>     > > Here's how I figure.
>     > > If it was me undertaking this vile act, I'd have had the following
>     > > people informed and on my team by threats, the payment of
>     largess and
>     > > perks.
>     > >
>     > > The Heads of the FBI, CIA, FAA  and the NSA had to be in on
>     it. They
>     > > are mostly inured to chicanery and close to the members of PNAC
>     > > Underlings  in those agencies have non disclosure agreements
>     that keep
>     > > them silent.
>     > > Various security wanna be's had to be bought or rented.That is
>     > > ordinary business.They never see or hear anything, for a living.
>     > >
>     > > Members of PNAC ( of course, the winners in all of this, who
>     are  the
>     > > planners and co-ordinators, along with the New York Port Authority
>     > > leadership ( who got rid of some albatross real estate that was
>     > > asbestos ridden by accident. instead of by the expenditure of
>     > > billions. They did a major amount of the physical cover-up.
>     > > FEMA's leadership.( who also took part in the cover-up).
>     > > The Pentagons leadership, Rumsfeld, from PNAC.
>     > > The Mayor of New York, Giuliani along with  Bloomberg and Eliot
>     > > Spitzer.
>     > > Larry Silverstein and  Peter G. Peterson,of the Blackstone
>     Group,and
>     > > Chairman of the C.F.R, who financed  and carried out the trade
>     center
>     > > lease in June of 2001 in association with Henry Kissinger, who
>     must be
>     > > a senile coot by now.
>     > > Later someone at NIST would have to be aboard and of course
>     the 9/11
>     > > commission, chosen from insiders.
>     > > Now add the Executives and staff at the White House and the
>     demolition
>     > > team that took it's orders from them ( Munitions expert Richard J.
>     > > Spanard and his three man crew, who were assigned to the Executive
>     > > branch _Very_ Important _Persons detail,and  who were reported as
>     > > going to building 7 shortly after 9 am on september 11th.)
>     > > There were the execs of Fresh Kills and the ship that took
>     steel out
>     > > of the country who would need to be co-opted, overseen and vetted.
>     > > Let's see, There's Goss and  Graham,who took care of the
>     payment of
>     > > the  terrorist patsies, Tenet, Ashcroft, and  Gonzales,aided and
>     > > abetted the coup.
>     > >
>     > > The NYFD was silenced, though they talked plenty,and are not
>     implicit.
>     > > Little is known about the New York Police involvement. They
>     could have
>     > > been kept under control by Giuliani's office and non disclosure
>     > > agreements.
>     > > There was a judge, who issued veiled gag orders on the actual
>     > > witnesses of the crime from the buildings, who had to be in on the
>     > > 'gag'
>     > >
>     > > Where am I now, about 100 insiders and maybe 200 more in a
>     position to
>     > > have figured it out.
>     > >
>     > > In a government fueled by 190 proof greed that is a number
>     that I can
>     > > believe.
>     > >
>     > > So, according to me,  9/11 was  made to happen by about 300
>     traitors,
>     > > including 200 of those who should have spilled the beans without
>     > > actual involvement and 100  people in positions to give orders.
>     > > That's not too many people to have to keep in line if you have a
>     > > virtually unlimited budget and airtight secrecy backed by
>     "National
>     > > Security Letters"
>     > >
>     > > I learn from argument, What have you got?
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