Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: How many people were in on the conspiracy?

> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: How many people were in on the
> conspiracy?
> Datum: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:44:36 -0800 (PST)

well for another list maybe but it is not perfect and drafted enough for a
public posting.

I'm too detail obsessed and would add names first or the links to my
article. There is also a specific hierarchy involved, which i didn't mention
either :)

However, keep going in the spirit of open source, you can post it in another
list...

> Nico,
>
> permission to post this most excellent and concise response elswhere?
>
> Greg
>
> Nico Haupt <nicohaupt@gmx.li> wrote:
> > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> > Von: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
> > An: Ed Barner <edwinatlcom.net@mindspring.com>,
> > 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: How many people were in on the
> conspiracy?
> > Datum: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:17:42 -0600
> >
>
>
> Ed,
>
> i answered this question a long time ago.
> First in 2002, then in 2004 in my article series "the lost terror drill"
>
> But you have first to learn to distinguish between the official 'plotline'
> and the 'military operation'.
>
> You can deceive as much people into a plotline, without telling them the
> true outcome. All alleged suspects got killed or didn't exist.
> In case of additional actors they got killed as well.
>
> BlackOP helicopter pilots got possibly killed in Afghanistan, Pakistan or
> Iraq in a combat or within the alleged helicopter crash accidents.
>
> 90% of the crew of the military operation died as a passengers on the
> alleged flights, in reality reboarded and/or killed at different locations
> than official version. Another percentage got killed in Pentagon, WTC 1, 2
> and 7, maybe even captured in 6 and 5.
>
>
> The helping hands, most of them involved in a real time terror drill
> exercise, are related with their handlers who are sitting in the military
> and oil think tanks.
> I gave names. They also worked closely with PNAC members, which itself are
> just puppets.
>
> Both wars had been planned by different pentagon crews, unrelated to 9/11,
> i.e. Charles Holland at Tampa.
>
> If you look for masterminds, then you will end up in some grey zones, but
> i
> gave names as well.
> Think Reagan Crew 80s, Kissinger/Baker plus new power brokers from
> military/intel contractors. Think World Bank, Federal Reserve and major
> oil
> pipeline project managers.
> Historians and Revisionist often simplify the mastermind
> into Mossad, CIA and MI5/6 (with moles at Saudi and pakistani
> intelligence),but i think the real masterminds used these fronts as
> puppets
> as well.
>
> If it comes to intel, you also have to distinguish between plotline and
> military operation. I gave name of producers for the MO, from Titan to
> Anzus.
>
> What plotline depends, i have a much bigger profile for dutch and german
> intelligence than the usual 'saudi distraction'.
> Now you know why Jaap de Hoop Scheffer and Schroeder got promoted.
> They don't even need to know who did the real 9/11. They did their own
> limited hangout in time on pending 'terror attacks'
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>>This is an interesting question.
> I post it to 911insidejobbers.
> I think it is a coven of 13 in Lictenstien communicating directly with
> demonics who can see beyond time.
>
>
> Ed Barner wrote:
> > Hi Rosalee.
> > What's your take?
> > Forward this if you agree with any of it. If not, its just between us.
> >
> > How many people were in on the 9/11 conspiracy?
> >
> > Critics of the 9/11 movement say that 9/11 could not have been a
> > domestic conspiracy because it would have taken such a large number of
> > conspirators to carry it off.
> > That does sound logical, but it's not really necessary that it take
> > that many.<<
>
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>
> This is an interesting question.
> I post it to 911insidejobbers.
> I think it is a coven of 13 in Lictenstien communicating directly with
> demonics who can see beyond time.
>
>
> Ed Barner wrote:
> > Hi Rosalee.
> > What's your take?
> > Forward this if you agree with any of it. If not, its just between us.
> >
> > How many people were in on the 9/11 conspiracy?
> >
> > Critics of the 9/11 movement say that 9/11 could not have been a
> > domestic conspiracy because it would have taken such a large number of
> > conspirators to carry it off.
> > That does sound logical, but it's not really necessary that it take
> > that many.
> >
> > This post is speculative for future comparisons to the eventual truth.
> > but 9/11 could have been brought about with as few as 100
> > conspirators.
> > It would only take about 40 order givers and possibly 60 more
> > informed insiders who were order takers.
> > All others could be hoodwinked and co-opted.
> >
> > It really didn't take a large number of people.
> >
> > The corporate controlled media just went about its usual job of
> > ignoring all of the right things. They don't necessarily know the
> > truth.
> > The military just followed orders.
> > The elected officials who were out of the loop, just went about
> > ignoring anything that looked vaguely like a black op, as usual.
> >
> > The flim flam of the world could have been done by 100 order giving
> > insiders.
> >
> > As an aside, The ones who may not have been in the know, who might
> > talk if pressed, are the flight controllers.
> >
> > Here's how I figure.
> > If it was me undertaking this vile act, I'd have had the following
> > people informed and on my team by threats, the payment of largess and
> > perks.
> >
> > The Heads of the FBI, CIA, FAA and the NSA had to be in on it. They
> > are mostly inured to chicanery and close to the members of PNAC
> > Underlings in those agencies have non disclosure agreements that keep
> > them silent.
> > Various security wanna be's had to be bought or rented.That is
> > ordinary business.They never see or hear anything, for a living.
> >
> > Members of PNAC ( of course, the winners in all of this, who are the
> > planners and co-ordinators, along with the New York Port Authority
> > leadership ( who got rid of some albatross real estate that was
> > asbestos ridden by accident. instead of by the expenditure of
> > billions. They did a major amount of the physical cover-up.
> > FEMA's leadership.( who also took part in the cover-up).
> > The Pentagons leadership, Rumsfeld, from PNAC.
> > The Mayor of New York, Giuliani along with Bloomberg and Eliot
> > Spitzer.
> > Larry Silverstein and Peter G. Peterson,of the Blackstone Group,and
> > Chairman of the C.F.R, who financed and carried out the trade center
> > lease in June of 2001 in association with Henry Kissinger, who must be
> > a senile coot by now.
> > Later someone at NIST would have to be aboard and of course the 9/11
> > commission, chosen from insiders.
> > Now add the Executives and staff at the White House and the demolition
> > team that took it's orders from them ( Munitions expert Richard J.
> > Spanard and his three man crew, who were assigned to the Executive
> > branch _Very_ Important _Persons detail,and who were reported as
> > going to building 7 shortly after 9 am on september 11th.)
> > There were the execs of Fresh Kills and the ship that took steel out
> > of the country who would need to be co-opted, overseen and vetted.
> > Let's see, There's Goss and Graham,who took care of the payment of
> > the terrorist patsies, Tenet, Ashcroft, and Gonzales,aided and
> > abetted the coup.
> >
> > The NYFD was silenced, though they talked plenty,and are not implicit.
> > Little is known about the New York Police involvement. They could have
> > been kept under control by Giuliani's office and non disclosure
> > agreements.
> > There was a judge, who issued veiled gag orders on the actual
> > witnesses of the crime from the buildings, who had to be in on the
> > 'gag'
> >
> > Where am I now, about 100 insiders and maybe 200 more in a position to
> > have figured it out.
> >
> > In a government fueled by 190 proof greed that is a number that I can
> > believe.
> >
> > So, according to me, 9/11 was made to happen by about 300 traitors,
> > including 200 of those who should have spilled the beans without
> > actual involvement and 100 people in positions to give orders.
> > That's not too many people to have to keep in line if you have a
> > virtually unlimited budget and airtight secrecy backed by "National
> > Security Letters"
> >
> > I learn from argument, What have you got?
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