This is too good to shorten with the acronym.

Daily Kos: State of the Nation


Rush Limbaugh Call Updated With Audio
by Mike Stark
Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:04:11 PM PDT
I pissed them off. So bad, the screener came back on the line after Rush cut me off - to say, "Blow me."
This is too good to shorten with the acronym. Laugh Out Fucking Loud!!
Anyway, after the jump, I'll tell you the history of the call, but to hear the whole thing - context included - you'll have to click on over to CallingAllWingnuts.
Update [2006-2-17 15:3:40 by Mike Stark]:There was a huge cold front that blew through Albany today - 50 mph wind gusts, etc. Anyway, as I listened to my recording so that I could put it together for CallingAllWingnuts, I realized that the radio station's signal cut in and out. I'm going to have to find another way of getting the audio. I'm working on it - and I promise you - if I have to sign up for Rush's 24/7 ($6.95 for a month), I'll get you that call audio...
Update [2006-2-17 18:38:33 by Mike Stark]:The audio is now posted at CallingAllWingnuts
Mike Stark's diary :: ::
So anyway, he mentioned the Paul Hackett fiasco, so I picked up the phone and called. People have asked what my secret is for getting on these shows - for getting through... well, it is persistence as much as anything else. For over 30 minutes, I hit redial before I got a ring...
Finally the screener came on and asked me what I wanted to talk about. I told him I wanted to talk to Rush about the Fighting Dems - that 10 out of 11 Iraq vets that have come back and have chosen to run for Congress are Democrats... and that Bush is just excacerbating the problem by proposing the smallest military pay raise since 1994 - 2.2%.
The screener put me in the queue.
I waited. And waited. And waited.
Rush talked about bald eagles and new rules about feeding them in Alaska... he talked about the Cheney shooting... Iran...
then he, quite gleefully I should add, brought up this Washington Times article that claims Democrats have received more money from lobbyists that Republicans since 1990... Rush said that Dems are down to having raised only about $5,000,000/year from individuals... I knew that was bs also - Howard Dean raised $20,000,000 over the internet from individuals...
Well, I had seen that article. I knew, instantly, that this was right wing propaganda. You see, if you break the numbers down, it becomes apparent pretty quickly that they aren't talking about the real money in politics... The total raised - between both parties - is just slightly over 100 million dollars - over fifteen years... that's about 15 million a year... divided into 534 legislators, you are down to about $25 thousand per man... at a time when every House seat costs over a million dollars and Senate seats go for about 6 million, well, $25,000 is pretty paltry...
So - since I waited for well over an hour, I thought I'd try to sneak some of those facts in before I brought up the Fighting Dems...
I started out by saying that I wanted to discuss the Washington Times article - but before I did, I thought his listeners should know that it loses 50 million dollars every year and only stays afloat because the Reverend Sun yun Moon and his moonie church own it and continually dump money into it.
Man did I hit a nerve. You'll hear it - Rush hit the roof and cut me off...
But the good part was his screener came on the line ot ask me what I thought I was doing?
I said that Rush said it was "open line Friday", that I held over an hour, that Rush brought the story up - and I did want to talk about the fighting dems...
The screener wailed... "Oh, but that's not what you told me you wanted to talk about!"
Me: "Well that's not what I wanted to talk about when I called, but Rush brought it up... and he said we can talk about whatever we want."
Screener: "How long have you listened to the show Mike?"
Me: "Pretty much every day - I love the show."
Screener: "Then you know how this works... you tell me what you want to talk about and then you get on the air - but Rush knows beforehand what it is you are going to bring up - we all know - but you went a lied..."
Me: "I didn't lie about a thing... I called to talk about the Fighting Dems and I'll still talk about them if you'll put me back on the air... But Rush brought it up, I had something to say about it and thought, after waiting an hour, he might let me talk about that also..."
Screener: "Well now you aren't going to get your chance to talk to him... Because you had to lie about what you wanted to talk about."
Me: "I didn't lie... You know, I'm your worst nightmare - a liberal with some knowledge that isn't afraid to stand up to you guys and tell the truth."
Screener: "Blow me... click"
I'll have the whole call up at CallingAllWingnuts soon.
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Rush Limbaugh (none / 1)
I can't listen to a minute of him.I hope you told the screener to blow himself.
by Cassandra77 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:07:41 PM PDT
Even better... (4.00 / 5)
...what's his number?...So people can call and say they hear he was asking for a blow job and "hey...what are you wearing?" Speaking of phone sex, them give him O'Reilly's number.
by daulton on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:45:24 PM PDT[ Parent ]
[In the best Limpballs imiation voice]: (none / 0)
"I, for one, don't think it's appropriate for the producer of a major radio program to be soliciting oral sex on his employer's phone and on his employer's time. If he wants that, he should do it on his own time and with his own phone.
by Jeff Boatright on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:15:17 PM PDT[ Parent ]
true. (none / 0)
"If he wants that, he should do it on his own time and with his own phone."
That's what I thought about Mr. Clinton, too, but lotsa democrats don't want to hear that...I'm not against the oral sex part- I just think he should have taken a coffee break and gone somewhere else.
by nhwriter on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:55:27 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Mike,I was having a good day to begin with (none / 1)
you just made it even Better.
PS i hope you got the screener on tape too,LMFAO.
http://dumpjoe.com/
by ctkeith on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:14:43 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Yes, Laughs all around (none / 0)
BTW Thanks for the DATA on the Moonie Paper. I had no idea it was such a loser.
Propaganda is expensive...
A Rational Being typed this.
by A Rational Being on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 04:28:53 PM PDT[ Parent ]
I used to listen to him (4.00 / 2)
Back when I was in my early days at College I actually listened to Rush Limbaugh semi-routinely. That is, when I happened to be near a radio at the right time of day, I'd tune in.
What you have to understand about Rush is he brings two things to his audience:
Entertainment - say what you will about his politics, he does a good job of presenting what he says
Simplicity
What I realized as I began to learn more about the world and how it really works, I began to see how utterly simplistic Rush's view of the world is. There's an appeal in it because you listen and you feel like you're left feeling like you know something and that you're right. It cuts through all the complexity that life is really about.
In contrast, if I tune into Al Franken, I don't always leave with a sense of certainty. I don't leave with this belief that I'm right and the world is a simple place. When he talks about Iraq he doesn't say we need to get get out now, because he's not sure either. Holy cow, somebody who doesn't know everything? What's wrong with him?
--- If trickle down economics worked, Marie Antoinette wouldn't have lost her head
by sterno on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:51:48 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Simplicity (none / 0)
There's an audience that prefers simplicity. Ed Shultz fills that role for the left. I find his show frustrating because it never gets into much depth or connects more than two dots at a time, but I'm glad he's there for the less nuanced crowd.
Building a better RenderMan
by stabguy on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:38:33 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Springer on the Radio (none / 0)
Jerry Springer does this too. His radio show, not the TV show, obviously! :) He's a lot smarter than one would normally believe from just watching his show, and few knows he's long been involved in Cincinatti/Ohio politics on the Democratic side.
President Washington, President Lincoln, President Wilson, President Roosevelt have all authorized electronic surveillance on a far broader scale. -AG
by Stymnus on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 06:40:48 PM PDT[ Parent ]
I Don't See a New Limbaugh Call Link (4.00 / 2)
what am I missing?
We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"
by Gooserock on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:09:04 PM PDT
what is it with republicans (none / 0)
and their obsession with oral sex?
Doesn't the gutless Rush have tape delay so that calls like yours never make it to the air?
Gore2008 , My PoliticalTheaterBlog
by TeresaInPa on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:11:36 PM PDT
re (4.00 / 2)
Ask Daryn.
Oooo that was mean of me... some might even say it was a low blow.
"Save me Showtime! Save Me! " - Steve Holt
by cookiesandmilk on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:24:34 PM PDT[ Parent ]
he ain't gettin it from her either. (none / 0)
TVNewser
Here's what a TVNewser tipster said on Tuesday: "Kagan and Limbaugh are no longer an item..."Politically, they were not a good fit. She broke it off. She is heartbroken. He is playing golf."
Maybe he's back together with Rosey Poelm and her 5 sisters?
"We ought never to do wrong when people are looking." Twain
by dougymi on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:57:53 PM PDT[ Parent ]
"Playing golf" (none / 0)
is a euphemism for . . . ?
Nothing is more real than nothing. Beckett
by rx scabin on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:11:49 PM PDT[ Parent ]
A grass stained search for your missing balls n/t (4.00 / 12)
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. - Edward Abbey
WAtR
by boadicea on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:38:21 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Chuckling uncontrollably (none / 0)
In troubling times, it's good to read true stories about real people doing good things. HeroicStories, free
by AllisonInSeattle on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 05:58:30 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Well, a good walk spoiled... (none / 0)
was already taken.
A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. - Edward Abbey
WAtR
by boadicea on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 08:34:22 AM PDT[ Parent ]
Thank god (none / 0)
I couldn't believe she could get in with him to begin with. echhhh.
"Face it, we're as dead as corduroy" - Cat
by TalkieToaster on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:14:28 PM PDT[ Parent ]
re (none / 0)
The fact that she would consider him at all tells me ALLLL i need to know about her...
thanks for the update. now i just dislike for her lack of journalistic credibility. :)
"Save me Showtime! Save Me! " - Steve Holt
by cookiesandmilk on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:19:28 PM PDT[ Parent ]
I always thought she was a beard (4.00 / 3)
the advantage to being a beard is that you have all the perks of being a trophy wife without pretending you are enjoying the sex. Rush looks like a man that enjoys life's pleasures, excluding sex.
It seems a lot of people have never heard the rumors that Rush is closeted, so consider this a public service announcement.
by unterhausen on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:31:09 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Two things - (4.00 / 3)
The woman was more than likely attracted to the money and attention.
Limpballs, says it all. Ego can be a cover for other inadequacies (?).
From a woman that has seen both.
by LucyTooners on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:56:56 PM PDT[ Parent ]
ewww!!!! (none / 0)
I didn't know about them!
No wonder I don't like her.Anyone that would want to date that fat fuck! Yeachhhhh
by lrhoke on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:01:52 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Re: Rush being fat (none / 0)
Actually, Rush has lost quite a bit of weight in the last year or two. This, however, is not to say he looks any better. In fact, he is the only person I have ever seen who actually got UGLIER after significant weight loss!
"Fear is a preparation for failure." Robert Fripp
by OneBob54 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 04:42:58 PM PDT[ Parent ]
opiate addiction (none / 0)
will take the weight off.
Gore2008 , My PoliticalTheaterBlog
by TeresaInPa on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 09:09:25 PM PDT[ Parent ]
In all fairness.... (4.00 / 2)
Republicans aren't the only ones obsessed with it...
by snout on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:28:36 PM PDT[ Parent ]
I know (none / 1)
I can't stop thinking about it...
Loyalty comes from love of good government, not fear of a bad one. Hugo Black.
by Pondite on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:50:33 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Hmmmm.... (none / 0)
Maybe you are a closet Republican...
by snout on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:52:12 PM PDT[ Parent ]
no, I think it's just (none / 1)
the Y chromosome.
Apologies. It's my favorite form of birth control.
Loyalty comes from love of good government, not fear of a bad one. Hugo Black.
by Pondite on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:10:01 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Yeah but WE DON'T preach preach preach about it (none / 1)
And then hold the other side accountable while we're doing it. We just do whatever and the Republicans have a fit while they have bizzare sex, subvert the poor, and chicken hawk other people into fighting wars for them.
"Face it, we're as dead as corduroy" - Cat
by TalkieToaster on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:16:13 PM PDT[ Parent ]
A friend of mine has a theory (4.00 / 3)
Either (a) they aren't getting any or (b) they consider it icky.
"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm"--James Madison
by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:32:51 PM PDT[ Parent ]
re (none / 1)
Both. The new republican party has a BIG hangup about sex including ALL the fundies that play such a big part of their policy.
We are literally paying for the sexual hangups of 33% of the population via policy, restriction of rights and abu-garibh style S & M actions.
Sex is such a base instinct for all of us. When your foundation is whacked all these bad views and opinions trickle up into the makeup of these folks.
"Save me Showtime! Save Me! " - Steve Holt
by cookiesandmilk on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:36:34 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Your tagline (4.00 / 2)
is officially my favorite thing ever.
by kellyb628 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:46:56 PM PDT[ Parent ]
re (none / 0)
Marry me!
"Save me Showtime! Save Me! " - Steve Holt
by cookiesandmilk on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:52:17 PM PDT[ Parent ]
But they love the porn lobby's money (none / 1)
read: Mary Carey
"Face it, we're as dead as corduroy" - Cat
by TalkieToaster on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:16:44 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Te sex industry may be (none / 0)
the only industry that gets more money from Republican politicians than it gives.
DLC=RNC-30years
by hardleft on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:41:27 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Except for (none / 0)
the defense industry.
Sixteen scandals in my heart will glow: click "A is for Abramoff"
by Major Danby on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 08:56:54 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Abu Ghraib (none / 0)
Also Abu Ghraib. Why are the prison guards there so obsessed with sex?
by BradMajors on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:37:37 PM PDT[ Parent ]
standard practice (none / 0)
they stole the Soviet's torture manual. Of course, the Soviets din't care if the torture resulted in true confessions, they just wanted to break people.
by unterhausen on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:33:01 PM PDT[ Parent ]
They imagine there's something naughty (none / 0)
about it. And they never get any so it seems more alluring in contrast.
by AmberJane on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:37:09 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Actually, Rush's Biggest Nightmare.... (4.00 / 4)
is when he cannot get either the Domino's Pizza guy or his Oxy dealer on speed dial......
"It. Is. About. Winning."
by Steve Singiser on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:13:12 PM PDT
Good for you (4.00 / 7)
If they all love the Washington Times so much at Rush's place, they should make it official: why doesn't Rush and Daryn Kagen (the future ex-Mrs. Limbaugh) get married with ten thousand other proud wingnuts and Dr. Moon?
I'm sure that all the born-again dittoheads in the bible belt would understand.
The Washington Post takes the gold for most dishonorable partisan hack as an ombusperson
by LeftHandedMan on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:13:59 PM PDT
Good for you (none / 1)
I can just picture Rushelstilskin flying into an absolute rage because you guessed his game.
by MagisterLudi on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:15:09 PM PDT
yeah, he made the puppet dance....heeheehee (none / 0)
by alwaysquestion on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:21:38 PM PDT[ Parent ]
HAHA (none / 0)
The problem is that Rish Didn't have the Moon talking points in front of him...you need to let him prep to lie...he can't do it off the top of his head, man!
:-)
Pro-Gun, Pro-Chair, Pro-War, PRO-LIFE?!
by ZaBlanc on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:16:46 PM PDT
I love it (4.00 / 16)
Mike threw a breaking ball. Rush was expecting a fat one right over the plate. Rush swung and missed. Rush and his bat boy blamed the pitcher, blubbering, "no fair!" Even ten-year-olds on a sandlot find that kind of behavior childish.
"Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm"--James Madison
by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:22:12 PM PDT
I heard loud chin music ... (none / 1)
... THEN breaking balls -- ohhh it's a metttaphorrr..
Meta Legume:? Eat! Dance! Fight! Resist!
by Peanut on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:51:04 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Recommended (4.00 / 4)
If I could I'd buy you a case of beer for making Rush blow a nut.
Give me Liberty or give me death! (-6.88, -6.15)
by guyermo on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:24:29 PM PDT
I was listening. You were great. (4.00 / 9)
Funny, I've read all your diearies, but I had never heard your voice. I'm not shocked to hear that that was you.
At the time the call was pretty striking. I don't know if I've ever heard Rush panic quite the same way. He went to the kill button as fast as he possibly could. Even the dittoheads had to notice.
What was even more humorous was what he said after the call. He went on about how this was an independant study and that attacking the credibility of the newspaper that printed it was just the kind of tactics we liberals resort to. I almost choked on drink with laughter.
by snout on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:27:28 PM PDT
And then (none / 0)
he implied that the New York Times stays afloat because its owners pump cash into it! Oh, he could tell us things! Yessir! Like how those damn librul reporters won't mention that Sherrod Brown is black! Which, um, he's not.
"The way out is via the door. Why is it that no one will use this method?" - Confucius
by Blue Intrigue on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 05:43:00 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Did you say cult? (none / 0)
just asking, because Moon does run a cult.
And he's an antichrist too.
(The definition of antichrist says "Someone who claims to be Christ", so Moon is an antichrist)
"Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right" - Carl Schurz
by RBH on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:28:24 PM PDT
question (none / 0)
if jesus comes again in the final judgement and claims to be who he is, would that mean that he is the anti-christ?
Give me Liberty or give me death! (-6.88, -6.15)
by guyermo on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:32:04 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Nope (none / 0)
My POV is that the Anti-Christ in revelation will only be the most successful Anti-Christ.
Granted, there's some lizards or snakes involved in all that too. I need to check Revelation again.
"Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right" - Carl Schurz
by RBH on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:35:39 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Couldn't hurt (none / 0)
I've never managed to get past Genesis, myself.
Give me Liberty or give me death! (-6.88, -6.15)
by guyermo on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:40:17 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Although (none / 0)
I will put in a positive review for the Gospel of Matthew. Quite a bit of condemning of the people who do charitable things just to be seen doing charitable things (same for shows of faith and prayer too, actually)
"Our country right or wrong. When right, to be kept right; when wrong, to be put right" - Carl Schurz
by RBH on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:47:29 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Yeah, I read Matthew. He's good but (none / 0)
I found that he uses too many cliches.

Sixteen scandals in my heart will glow: click "A is for Abramoff"
by Major Danby on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 09:00:17 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Genesis? You missed the best parts. (none / 0)
"I've never managed to get past Genesis, myself."
Well, you missed the best parts, the begattings. You know ...
When the ball was over,Everyone confessed thatThe music was exquisite,But the begetting was the best.
Ed
by Ed Drone on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:50:12 PM PDT[ Parent ]
If you want the good stuff (none / 0)
Read the Song of Solomon.
Positively pornographic...it is in the Catholic version of the Bible.
Too racy for protestants.
by ranz on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:29:42 PM PDT[ Parent ]
AntiChrist not a person, but a system of Govt (none / 0)
Fascist, Nazian evil.
Seemingly mortal head wound of Revelations=death of Hitler.
Try reading the book of Daniel in the context of 9-11.
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by Jesus was a Liberal on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 04:54:47 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Great work (none / 1)
F@#k Rush up man!!!
by Rhody Dem on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:31:29 PM PDT
Rush quotes Mother Jones on Hackett (none / 1)
It hurt to hear Rush bringing up the Hackett fiasco. The thing that's really bad is that even if Brown is more liberal than Hackett, I cannot imagine Brown calling the president a coward or an SOB. Hackett could single-handedly win us hundreds of thousands of white male voters who don't think the Democratic Party is tough enough.
by Joe Willy on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:33:56 PM PDT
He still can. he just needs to find a job within (none / 1)
party, one that puts him out there. Or better, he could become a go to guy for the talk shows - not that it is likely to happen, but I think Americans are ready to listen to someone that talks sraight, whether they agree with that person or not.
by Spud1 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:46:59 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Primary ballot write-in (none / 0)
Some here on Kos just said there is still going to be a primary since Brown still has another challenger. So, I ask if it is possible for Hackett supporters to write-in Hackett on the Ballet.
by alwaysquestion on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:26:20 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Paging Dr. Dean... (none / 0)
I think he'd kick butt working with Howard.
One-issue voters get what they deserve. -6.25 -5.69
by Heiuan on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:32:13 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Laugh Out Fucking Loud indeed! (none / 0)
Excellent work as always, sir!
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by Arken on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:35:07 PM PDT
You are the Man!!! (4.00 / 4)
Love it! Funny you should bring up screening calls. Two weeks ago a rightwinger called Stephanie Miller to complain that--I am NOT making this up--his call had been screened.
That's right--he is ON THE AIR saying his call was screened. For once I think even Stephanie was flustered. She pointed out he was on the air, and she always moved right-wingers to the front of the line, but he would have none of it. It was like a Monty Python skit with him complaining "Why did you screen my call."
Finally, I was able to wrap my mind around his "Good night Gracie" logic. Typical of rightwingers and their gotcha-ism logic, he was conflating two definitions of "screen"--to "screen out" (to block), and to "screen" (to check).
Since someone other than Stephanie had answered the phone, they had "screened" (checked) his call, and to screen is to screen, so they had screened it (blocked it) EVEN THOUGH he was on the air.
(It was Zen-dumb, rather like Scotty McSweatCheeks claiming Cheney couldn't call the press because he was busy making sure victim hte victim got medical attention--'cause it's impossible to do two things at once, ain't it? A reporter should have Gracied-back at him, "So the V.P. was continually looking after his victim for two days?" )
by daulton on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:38:49 PM PDT
yes, Pythonesque via "Brazil" (4.00 / 2)
Sam Lowry: "I only know you got the wrong man."
Jack Lint: "Information Transit got the wrong man. I got the right man. The wrong one was delivered to me as the right man, I accepted him on good faith as the right man. Was I wrong?"

"pulp is fiction, blogs are hope, long live electricity"
by dash888 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:51:49 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Ah, our intrepid Mike Stark (none / 1)
bravo! That's the thing about call-ins that confounds republicans to no end:
you can't make them sign loyalty oaths, you can't hand pick them, and you never know when one of them actually belongs to the reality based community and has facts on hand. Bravo!
"pulp is fiction, blogs are hope, long live electricity"
by dash888 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:47:25 PM PDT
My question is how in the Hell did Moon (none / 1)
get crowned in the Capitol with even Democrats involved?Didn't Ashcroft say that America had only one King -jesus christ
by saul2006 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:48:12 PM PDT
That's a real long story (none / 1)
Most of the dems were completely conned and that is a longer story but...Danny Davis who held the crown for Moon's wife(he didn't 'crown' either Moon or his wife he carried a crown) he saw the light and no longer attends Moon functions. The Republicans involved still drool over the Washington Times every day. Ronald Reagan told Moon's top political operative during the campaign of '80 that he "needed" Moon's "prayers" and "support".
What'cha think of those apples?
"Sun Myung Moon has more to do with our nation's political climate than anyone. Anyone!" - moonboots
by moonboots on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:00:16 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Stephanie should have done (none / 0)
what Mike Malloy does to insane flying monkey rightards when they make no sense...dump 'em.
by roamer65 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:52:31 PM PDT
Does this mean you're going ... (4.00 / 2)
...to be on hold permanently next time you call?
Worth every minute of that hour to know that Rush probably had to up his OxyContin intake for the day.
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by Meteor Blades on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 12:55:53 PM PDT
No tip jar? (none / 1)
Totally brilliant!
by kathny on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:01:08 PM PDT
Fun, but counterproductive. (3.12 / 8)
First of all, let me commend you for having the stomach to listen to Rush's hateful, dishonest trash, and the ability to persevere and confront their lies on the air. I have neither.
That said, I think you missed the ball here. You had the opportunity to make a critical, irrefutable point Rush's show about our veterans, how they're treated by Bush, and how so many are returning to run as Democrats. You had the opportunity to shut down a Republican Known Fact (tm) about the Abramoff scandal.
Instead, you went for the low-hanging fruit and made an ultimately irrelevant remark about the Times that, in addition to being the sort of thing that won't resonate with Rush's viewers--to whom it'll sound like a liberal being a religious bigot--instantly marked you as a moonbat and gave Rush the excuse to shut you down before you could say anything truly damaging. You blew your wad early on a point that wasn't worth it.
Don't take this as discouragement, but rather an observation as to how your talk radio activism can be more effective at getting the truth out.
Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
by Catsy on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:07:35 PM PDT
Actually I think the knowledge that the (4.00 / 13)
Washington Times is a moonie operation might be news to the dittoheads, and a more damaging point.
Daily Mendacity
by tiponeill on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:16:40 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Yep (none / 1)
The only programming most dittoheads have that's deeper than Rush's is their church's. They have been taught from day one to hate cults, and Sun Myung Moon is the poster boy of cult leaders. So when they find out that Rush is feeding them Moonie propaganda, it shorts out their circuitry.
Gotta remember how the human brain works. Almost anything can be rationalized, but conflicts within the deepest programming levels are hard to fix.
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits. - Albert Einstein
by racerx on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:31:01 PM PDT[ Parent ]
I second that. (none / 1)
It plants the seed of doubt. That Rush could be taking you for a ride the next time you don't agee with every last little thing he says. The one thing that the Religious Supremacist Right nut cases can't stand is a crazy cult. Now, isn't that funny?!! They can't recognize themselves, but they can definitely find it in themselves to judge you or anyone, including Rush (even if it takes a few times...).
My in-laws are ditto heads, but they have their pride and they do not tie in with cults!! That would be just too crazy......all that other stuff, not so much.
by alwaysquestion on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:50:00 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Or you could call (4.00 / 13)
Rush yourself and do your own call, your own way...
In arrogance the wicked persecute the poor- let them be caught in the schemes they have devised. -Psalm 10:2
by chicagochristianleft on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:17:19 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Or, I could not... (none / 0)
...since I already mentioned that I have neither the stomach to listen to Rush nor the ability to go toe to toe with him verbally.
Which doesn't prevent me from offering constructive feedback on how the OP could be more effective, nor does it require you to fire back with a snide and puerile "if you think you can do a better job..." reply.
Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
by Catsy on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:27:42 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Exactly why (none / 0)
we should leave it to Mike to work the calls as he sees fit. There's no reasoning with Rush, O'Reilly, etc. and any of their fans. Mike's just fucking with their heads by playing the same games they do, then watching/listening to their heads explode. I'm just glad he goes through so much effort and shares the results with us.
How freeing it must be to walk through this world heeding neither conscience nor soul. - Rude Pundit
by pattyp on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:55:52 PM PDT[ Parent ]
No, you can't play Rush's game. (4.00 / 6)
He would have loved for a liberal to call to try to make those points. He was prepared for that and he would have eaten the caller for lunch. I have listened to him for a long time and I have rarely if ever heard anyone get the better of him. (I wish I had hear Mike Stark's call!) He is like the three-card monte scammer--you just can't beat him at his own scam. You have to change the rules of the game.
No, Mike had the perfect strategy: Hit Rush where he is unprepared and vulnerable. That is the only chance the caller has to fluster him and make him look like the fool he is.
I think we should pick a week where thousands of Kossacks will call in to slam Rush (& feel free to lie to the screener). He would get so upset he'd take a double dose of Oxycontin.
"Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!" -- Sir Thomas More, in A Man For All Seasons, by Robert Bolt
by Shiborg on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:38:16 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Secret heresies of the Christian Right (none / 0)
Trust me, it doesn't sound like religious bigotry to attack a group that has been said in thousands of media reports to have coerced young people away from their families. And voters who look to the Republican Party as defenders of Christmas and Christianity aren't happy about their pols working with the Reverend Moon, who preaches that Jesus was a failure and he's the replacement.
Veterans? Eh, not so explosive as this attack on the moral foundations of the Moral Majority, for which Moon was present at the creation.
by johngorenfeld on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:15:59 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Oh, and johngorenfeld... (none / 0)
...you are hereby invited to explain what about my comment was trollish, or (alternatively) why you think it's a splendid idea to abuse the rating system to downrate people with whom you disagree.
Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
by Catsy on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:29:44 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Troll is 0 (none / 1)
1 is unproductive.
I didn't think your take on the subject warranted anything special. Mike Stark probably puts 2 hours into a single phone call, and he gets grief like you give him?
The number of calls the guy makes gives him opportunity.
by otto on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:38:19 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Grief? (none / 1)
If you think that was grief, then goodness, please stay far away from anything creative requiring that your fragile ego receive feedback. Not only was my criticism pretty mild, but I went out of my way to make it clear I admired him doing what I myself lack the stomach and ability to do.
Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
by Catsy on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:08:29 PM PDT[ Parent ]
You do realize how ridicous your reply was (none / 0)
Or not?
That's one of those that you should have just let go.
It happens to me every once in a while, too. The bummer is that you can't edit comments on Dailykos.com.
I'll make a dumb comment like yours, then I'll be like UNPOST!!! UNPOST!!!
It doesn't work, and I just hope that the person overlooks it without commenting.
I'll keep my fragile ego away. I don't think you were criticsing me, anway. Were you?
So, have a good one.
by otto on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 08:09:20 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Oops (none / 0)
Misunderstood the rating system, I apologize.
by johngorenfeld on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:43:26 PM PDT[ Parent ]
..did you really misunterstand? (none / 0)
I'm just asking since your user ID is so low. Maybe you made a mistake and clicked the wrong number, it happens. But don't feel the need to change your rating is someone calls you on it. If I feel someone deserves a 3 or a 2, I give them that rating and I stick by it unless I made a mistake.
by justalittlebitcrazy on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 04:07:33 PM PDT[ Parent ]
An attack on Christianity from the Right (none / 1)
...I meant to politely disagree and didn't mean to rate you on the level of a fiend. My apologies.
Progressives are slow to understand the real weaknesses of conservative pols who play the bait-and-switch game described in "What's The Matter With Kansas": posing as defenders of Christian virtue while enacting radical policies.
Moon illustrates the sham of the Republican claim to moral supremacy. While conservatives rail against perceived heresies and attack liberal Christian denominations, they've been quietly working for over 30 years with the appalling Rev. Sun Myung Moon.
If you want to see how thoroughly Moon fits the bill of conservative nightmare, I invite you to read my piece in the Gadflyer about his campaign to pay black ministers to replace the Christian cross with his personal crown.
Again, I apologize for the ratings thing, as your comment was polite and decent.
by johngorenfeld on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:52:43 PM PDT[ Parent ]
I'm familiar with Moon the loon. (none / 0)
And I agree, it'd be great if we could drive a wedge between decent Christians and Rev. Moon. I just don't think a soundbite on talk radio is the way to do it. At least, not the soundbite that Mike came up with.
Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
by Catsy on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:12:43 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Low hanging fruit? (none / 0)
You are like millions who have no idea the influence Moon has had on our nation which Rush's listeners certainly know nothing of.
Actually the subject if infinitely more important than any other discussed on this site - it is just that even liberals don't understand it. Yet.
"Sun Myung Moon has more to do with our nation's political climate than anyone. Anyone!" - moonboots
by moonboots on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:18:53 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Rash Lamebrain... (none / 0)
...is both (rash, and a lamebrain)
by wdrath on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:10:43 PM PDT
Can I suggest that you also record from your (4.00 / 9)
telephone, so we can hear the screener too ?
It's really easy to do - a lot of answering machines will do it or you can get the Linda Tripp accessory at Radio Shack for $10 ;)
Daily Mendacity
by tiponeill on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:14:52 PM PDT
I'm fairly sure (none / 0)
to do this legally you have to tell them they are being recorded.
by folgers on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 04:12:26 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Depends on the state... (none / 0)
Some states require both parties to consent, and some only require one (the recorder) to consent. No states that I know of allow you to tape conversations that you aren't a party to, at least not without a warrant. Unless you're GW Bush, and then you can do whatever you want, by Jesus' Divine Wish.
A summary can be found here.
As far as a recording device, be careful with the ones from Radio Shack. The one that I got there a few years back had a terrible BUZZZZZZZ which made it pretty much useless for recording phone interviews. I ended up building my own; they're not that complicated, and the parts aren't too hard to find.
by Sparky McGruff on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 10:16:19 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Sherrod Brown (none / 1)
is black and so the Hackett thing was racism, according to Limbaugh and his hillbilly heroin. No shit. Franken had the audio.
Seriously, God, is a freaking massive heart attack for this piece of shit too much to ask?
Go ahead. Make my day. Iowa Underground
by ThunderHawk13 on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:19:53 PM PDT
audio clip link (none / 0)
wow
unreal. i missed that so i seeked out the audio.
by td on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:34:28 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Sherrod Brown is black? (none / 0)
Then somebody else has his picture on Sherrod's website.
There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured with what is right with America. -- Bill Clinton
by ThirstyGator on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:48:27 PM PDT[ Parent ]
LMAO (4.00 / 2)
That is so great, thank you for doing that to Rash!! I hope the Moonies demand an apology from him for acting ashamed of them.Can you get a tape of the transcript and put it on the Web?
by vickyny on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:24:07 PM PDT
I mean, (none / 0)
a tape of the call.
by vickyny on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:24:56 PM PDT
Heh (4.00 / 2)
Great job there ;)
I'm curious about this comment of yours:
I started out by saying that I wanted to discuss the Washington Times article - but before I did, I thought his listeners should know that it loses 50 million dollars every year and only stays afloat because the Reverend Sun yun Moon and his moonie church own it and continually dump money into it.Where did you find that information? I'd love to read a bit about that part.
by Magatsu on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:31:23 PM PDT
Moonie money (4.00 / 3)
This New Yorker piece offers a conservative estimate of $2 billion dollars in subsidy for the Washington Times since 1982, out of Moon's personal fortune.
Columbia Journalism Review says $2 billion.
One conservative mogul told me it may be closer to $3 billion.
This is an enormous amount of money, and it doesn't include millions more slathered on other Republican figures ranging from Terry Dolan to Richard Viguerie to Jerry Falwell, typically to keep them out of debt.
Keep in mind that $2 billion is fully two-thirds of the $3 billion figure that's been guesstimated for the size of the entire right-wing message machine ove 30 years. That's the figure waved around by former DNC adviser Rob Stein, as mentioned in this Harper's piece.
Much of Moon's money comes from Japan, where the church was slapped by the Supreme Court for ripping off old ladies in high-pressure seances that netted tens of millions of dollars.
by johngorenfeld on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:57:28 PM PDT[ Parent ]
More on money (4.00 / 2)
...oops, I meant to say the New Yorker estimates $1 billion.
Moon himself has talked about the fortune he has spent, in this deranged speech:
"Think how many billions of dollars True Father spent to run the Wasington Times, also the projects with the UN? Millions of dollars. TF spent this kind of money for enemies. For 40 years, TF has brought so many dignitaries (to conferences), paying for their travel. They did not pay. Now is the time they have to pay Father back. TF will tell them, "Instead of paying me back, take care of my missionaries."
...and this:
"Many comfortable Washington political bureaucrats who have had their beautiful offices inside big marble buildings considered Reverend Moon and the Unification Church as insignificant as peanuts. However, now they have found themselves having to respond to the Washington Times; they are reading it and trembling at some of the stories. They find themselves having to take advice from the Washington Times!"
Why isn't this a scandal? Foreign money in the U.S. is required to be an open book, and yet the Justice Department hasn't required the backers of the Times to register as foreign agents, as a 1930s law requires, and as discussed in a 1992 episode of Frontline.
The DOJ, according to legendary columnist Lars Erik Nelson of The New York Daily News, "doesn't seem to want to know" where the money comes from.
by johngorenfeld on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:01:31 PM PDT[ Parent ]
johngorenfeld (none / 0)
Many, many thanks for the information! I appreciate it a lot.
by Magatsu on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 04:00:23 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Astounding Moon's whole operation (4.00 / 2)
wasn't made to fall under FARA
Moon gives some lip sevice at times toward America when he isn't calling her "Satan's Harvest" but he actually sees our nation as a toy to reach the world. But FARA, most definitely. He tells the members not to say they are citizens of country's like Japan or America but they are citizens of Cheong Il Guk, which his one world. Moon isn't on anyone's side but his own, but he has chosen Korea to be his sovereign nation.
this quote below is from a witness before congress in the 70s from the book:
Science, Sin, and Scholarship The Politics of Reverend Sun Myung Moon and the Unification Church Edited by Irving Louis Horowitz Copyright 1978 second printing 1979 Printed and bound by Alpine Press pgs. 120-147
The Activities of the Korean Central Intelligence Agency in the United States - Jai Hyon Lee.
I appreciate the opportunity to speak before the Subcommittee on International Organizations of the Committee on International Relations of the House of Representatives to testify on the activities of the Korean Intelligence Agency, KCIA, in the United States in the context of U.S policy toward Korea and the developments affecting the human rights in that country [September 1976].
Last summer when I testified before this committee with regard to the repression of human rights in South Korea and its implications for U.S. policy, I pointed out the existence at the Korean embassy in Washington of KCIA plans for clandestine operations in the United States. I testified that, in the spring of 1973, the ambassador called frequent staff meetings at which I had been also present as chief cultural and information attaché and, concurrently, Director of the Korean Information Office in the United States. In these meetings, the KCIA station chief and his senior aides orientated the key embassy staff to the clandestine operational schemes. After a few sessions I realized the meetings were in fact an initiation of converting all the diplomatic and consular officers into KCIA auxiliaries.
snip...
Political Activities of Sun Myung Moon
Nowadays virtually every business in Korea - including the media business - must have close connections with the regime and the KCIA in particular. A business that requires foreign loans and foreign exchange absolutely must have KCIA approval at every turn. In this respect what draws my particular attention, because of its financial scope, is the vigorous and strange political activities in the United States of South Korean industrialist-evangelist Sun Myung Moon since Park turned South Korea into a police state.
For instance, in 1973, Moon came to the United States and mounted a dynamic coast-to-coast campaign of the "Day of Hope," with full page advertisements in the New York Times, the Washington Post, and other major dailies, proclaiming, "At this moment in history God has chosen Richard Nixon to be President of the United States." Apparently bidding for favor Moon proclaimed Watergate-besieged President Nixon as a leader by divine right, and later Moon was invited to the White House, where he embraced Mr. Nixon. Toward the end of 1973 and the beginning of 1974, Moon crusaded in behalf of President Nixon with two "evangelical" themes of "Forgive, Unite," and "God Loves Nixon," through full-page newspaper ads, mass rallies and street demonstrations in the United States, Europe and the Far East. Of course the scene was repeated in South Korea. The point is that Moon staged massive demonstrations in Seoul where such rallies have been strictly banned by the "emergency decrees" of dictator Park.
The KCIA is involved in virtually every aspect of Korean life; therefore it is entirely unthinkable that the omnipresent KCIA simply overlooked Moon's movement. On the contrary the KCIA would be most interested in putting some Korean like Moon, who supports all of its goals, in a position to work and lobby for the Park regime's position on the American political scene. Indeed as most Koreans know, Moon's huge constellation of businesses enterprises in Korea and his cult have risen to a flourishing empire under the Park government despite his early days of arrest on morals charges, controversy, and scandalous reports in the leading Korean dailies.
Among many things, it is strange to note that Moon operates, through his Unification church-controlled Federation for Victory over Communism, an anticommunist indoctrination center for Korean government employees and military officers. By the KCIA's unpublished charter, however, this area of "anti-Communist indoctrination and internal propaganda" is explicitly under the control of the KCIA's Second Bureau, which also controls the press with censors and supervising agents in each newspaper and broadcasting station.
Excerpted from: Science, Sin, and Scholarship The Politics of Reverend Sun Myung Moon and the Unification Church Edited by Irving Louis Horowitz Copyright 1978 second printing 1979 Printed and bound by Alpine Press pgs. 120-147
Moon says he isn't so small to be just KCIA, the world is his target. I believe him. Here's an excerpt from: Time Magazine June 14, 1976. Pg. 49 Under the Title "The Secret Sayings of Master Moon"
Although Sun Myung Moon sometimes appears to be a Christian evangelist, he is in actuality the megalomaniacal "messiah" of the new religion. Excerpts from speeches that "Master" Moon has given to disciples in the inner sanctum of his cult: MOON v. CHRISTIANITY:
God is now throwing Christianity away and is now establishing a new religion, and this new religion is the Unification Church. All the Christians of the world are destined to be absorbed by our movement.
There have been saints, prophets, many religious leaders...in past human history....Master here is more than any of those people and greater than Jesus himself.
There is no complaint, objection against anything being done here until we will have established the Kingdom of God on earth up until the very end! There can never be any complaint!
I want to have new members under me who will be willing to obey me even though they may have to disobey their own parents and the Presidents of their own nations.
FUTURE PLANS(1976): Once our movement arouses the interest of the people in a nation, through mass media it will spread all throughout the world... So, we are going to focus our attention on one nation from where to reach the world. For that purpose I chose the U.S.
Time Magazine June 14, 1976. Pg. 49 Under the Title "The Secret Sayings of Master Moon"
"Sun Myung Moon has more to do with our nation's political climate than anyone. Anyone!" - moonboots
by moonboots on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 06:05:42 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Didn't "Joe" Farrah (none / 0)
while interviewing you - say that he estimated that the WT subsidy from Moon would be closer 4 billion? And Farrah has worked for them WT.
The moonies openly claim that the WT "protects Father".
"Sun Myung Moon has more to do with our nation's political climate than anyone. Anyone!" - moonboots
by moonboots on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:10:48 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Moon says $7million a month (none / 0)
Brian Lamb asked Pruden how much and he swished around in his chair and said he didn't know about the money. See no Evil Pruden. The paper hasn't moved from aorund 100,000 in circulation in years. I am sure costs haven't gone down.
SUN MYUNG MOON SPEAKS ON THE STANDARD OF THE UNIFICATION CHURCH August 10, 1986 Belvedere Translator - Sang Kil Han
So you cannot look at me without feeling ashamed for failing to live up to my standard-even though you have been following me. In other words, you are greatly indebted to me. You cannot repay that debt on your own power. The United States itself owes me so much. To publish The Washington Times alone costs $7 million every month. What is the purpose? To set America straight. Yet this country has not even been friendly toward me; President Reagan's own administration put me into prison. Why does our movement sacrifice so much money to do good for this country?
This isn't true. President Reagan's own administration put me into prison. It was the NY prosecutors who went after him. It was found that Moon's tax records were written on paper which had not been manufactured by the dates on the reports. Reagan didn't go so far as to pardon Moon, but he sucked up to his paper. Moon was an invited guest at the Reagan/Bush inaugural in 1981. Of course, Bush 41 sold the prestige of the Presidency to Moon, traveling the world for Moon.
What many don't realize is that the Washington Times gave Moon HUGE face around the world. Reagan drooled over it so Moon had power to the rest of the world. The WT was worth every dime of the Japaness widow's money he swindled and spent on it, if for only the face it gave Moon around the globe.
from Robert Parry
The new Reagan administration tried unsuccessfully to halt the tax case. Federal prosecutors in New York prevailed over the Justice Department and won a conviction against Moon in 1982.You ever google "America's Newspaper"?
"Sun Myung Moon has more to do with our nation's political climate than anyone. Anyone!" - moonboots
by moonboots on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 10:59:16 PM PDT[ Parent ]
It seems to me (none / 0)
that a couple of thousand dedicated souls could really raise holy Hell with Limbaugh's show if they all decided to call him.... on the same afternoon... all afternoon.
Fight Back!
by mosesfreeman on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:45:10 PM PDT
Hilarious (none / 1)
I've been telling people for years that Republicans sweat when you talk about Reverend Moon. Keep in mind that the National Journalism Center think tank even fired its director for writing a Wall Street Journal op-ed critical of Moon's messianic costume party on Capitol Hill.
by johngorenfeld on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:47:42 PM PDT
Please Update this diary when the call is up (none / 0)
And kudos for your (insane) struggle with hate radio, but I guess if you have fun with it, more power to you
by sponson on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:48:34 PM PDT
Site down...? (none / 0)
Is your site down, Mike?
I cannot see it. I want to hear it...!
The Moral Majority - all those Christian conservatives left on Earth AFTER the Rapture....
by sp0t on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:54:58 PM PDT
Excellent work! (none / 0)
More sane people should try to call into that show. It's a gigantic hassle to do, I'm sure, but it is fun to hear when an obviously sane caller manages to slip through, and the "Maha-Rushie" melts down and starts to pour sweat. I'll bet he's having to double up on his OxyContin dosage this afternoon! Keep up the good work, Mike.
by twcollier on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 01:56:26 PM PDT
So... I guess it's not up yet? (none / 0)
On CAW, I mean. Nothing about Limbaugh over there...
Fighting against the fascists, with Ilsa at my side...
by VictorLaszlo on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:28:08 PM PDT
Call-in vs. Interview shows (none / 0)
Mike, and others --
As a radio talkshow host and national programming coordinator for a community radio station, I wonder what your thoughts are on call-in shows vs. interview shows in disseminating progressive ideas. We've had a couple of call-in shows proposed for our station, but I'm leery of reproducing Rush or duplicating Air America.
by johnrichmond on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:33:44 PM PDT
If I can suggest: (none / 0)
Get ahold of some tapes of Doug Frabrezio's "Radio West", broadcast by KUER in Salt Lake City. He is a tremendous talent in interviewing, knowlegable, well thought out questions with spontaneous follow ups, treats his guests with respect and allows them to talk most of the time.
Utah - the experimental laboratory state for theocracy
by shadowplayer on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:15:03 PM PDT[ Parent ]
shall do (none / 0)
found an archive of Radio West and will check him out.
"Sun Myung Moon has more to do with our nation's political climate than anyone. Anyone!" - moonboots
by moonboots on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 07:03:30 PM PDT[ Parent ]
johnrichmond (none / 1)
I've been thinking a lot about progressive radio and how it might be more effective. I am not a huge fan of Air America as I think it often highlights the worst aspects of the liberal movement. I don't think the relentless Bush bashing does us any favors (though he is certainly a deserving target), and the often snide tone does as much harm as it does good.
What I'd like to see is a movement towards triangulating out the media propagandists by treating them as the 'bad guy'. To do this properly, Michael Moore and Randi Rhodes would have to be targets along with Rush, Hannity and Savage.
I think a host that appealed to the best instincts of both democrats and republicans, and trained their outrage squarely on the loudmouths perpetuating the culture war could have a real positive effect. While the show would be centerist in tone, the net effect would be to get those swing voters in the middle to start questioning Rush, etc. That could only work to our favor.
As for format - I'd want to see a mix of in-studio guests and callers. Guests could run the gamut from libertarian to socialist - and all would be engaged thoughtfully and without anger. Callers and listeners would elicit approval from the host when they make their points respectfully and are willing to accept the notion that other ideas might have validity. Strident callers of all philosophies would be chided for being tools of the culture war.
BTW - it doesn't have to be so polite that it isn't entertaining. The host can be as scathing as he wants to Rush and his other targets ala the Daily Show. He can play tapes back of Rush and others foaming at the mouth, and point out their manipulations - always good comedy. I also envision using short taped bumpers of the most off the wal things thee guys say throughout the show as ironic commentary.
Ok...that's my pitch. Do with it what you will.
by snout on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:19:12 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Plus, he takes calls (none / 0)
and e-mails throughout and has the guest respond.Usually keeps it to one guest/hr and it helps that its public radio so there is much more time in the hour w/o commercials.
Utah - the experimental laboratory state for theocracy
by shadowplayer on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:20:37 PM PDT[ Parent ]
GREAT!! Can you tell us some of what he said (4.00 / 3)
I have said for a few years that the day Rush defends Moon and pulls it off will be the day we know we won't get our democracy back.
Did he lie and say the WT was "independent" of Moon. This explains some of why that is Bullshit.
Here's one big reason TV won't cover Moon.
and this explains the purpose of the Washington Times which has ALWAYS been to move the nation hard right while Moon's fronts, money and political operatives worked to "restore" the religious right to control our government via the Republican Party. Moon says his job as messiah was to "restore" them, he brags about doing it, which he DID!
One thing is for sure, most wingnuts don't know who owns the WT and they certainly don't know Moon BRAGS about using it to "influence" the nation. See that in the link above.
Today's conservative movement is Moon's political army. They are his witting and unwitting tools. He calls it the "natural subjugation of the American government and population" and conservtiaves are helping him subjugate our country and subvert the constitution.
No Moon and you have NO Bush type in the presidency, wouldn't have happened...and they bitch and moan about U.S citzen Soros(Moon isn't a citizen) spending some cash in one election cycle when Moon spent billions bringing them to power. Rush, Coulter, O'Reilly, Hannity, Savage, Hume ...the whole lot of them should go on FOX and bow before Moon for without him they are still called Birchers, theocrats and fascists not the people running America into the ground.
Moon is literally the conservative movement's savior. BTW, he fully intends for Korea to be #1 and the center control of the planet one day, that is who the right gets its marching orders from...
"Sun Myung Moon has more to do with our nation's political climate than anyone. Anyone!" - moonboots
by moonboots on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:35:57 PM PDT
So what you're saying is... (none / 1)
...he's the Manchurian newspaper mogul.
by elouise on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:59:03 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Good for you (none / 1)
You couldn't pay me to listen to him, much less wait on the phone for an hour only to be cut off, but good for you. And thanks for posting your experience on a website with huge traffic, that much more publicity to elicit, my dear.
by elouise on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 02:56:47 PM PDT
If I have time... (none / 0)
I'll call the screener and simply say, "Blow me" when he answers.
It's the beat generation, it's be-at, it's the beat to keep, it's the beat of the heart, it's being beat and down in the world and like all time low-down
by Splicer on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:19:53 PM PDT
hmm (none / 0)
I thought Rush only offered oral sex in exchange for prescription pain medicine.
by hardisun on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 03:25:23 PM PDT
If you sign up for Rush 24/7... (none / 0)
...you deserve a medal of some kind.
Russ Feingold for President!
by Basil on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 04:03:33 PM PDT
LOL... Sadly, I did... (4.00 / 3)
but only for a month and only to grab these clips...
CallingAllWingnuts.com
by Mike Stark on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 04:44:27 PM PDT[ Parent ]
yeah, well, here's the thing, though.. (none / 0)
Rush has a huge audience of fellow wingnuts and, more importantly, sheep-people who, while deluded, are not so far gone as to be unreachable. I applaud you for having the patience and wherewithall to actually get on the air with Rush. I think, however, that you made a mistake in diverging from what you originally told the screener you would talk about. You missed the opportunity to say probably a good deal more on the air and reach those deluded millions. But you diverged, and gave the screener exactly the reason he was looking for to drop you immediately. This is the thing: You go on to these shows, you are in enemy territory -- and they very quickly do figure out that you are their enemy -- and its crucial to exercise some brains so you can get the maximum message out there. These repugs and neocons have got one thing down so well -- stick to your message. never deviate. message, message, message, message. This is incredibly effective. In conclusion: Bring the fight to them. Be smart about it. Repeat as often as possible.
by puffbunny on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 04:37:16 PM PDT
HEARD IT!!! (none / 0)
I was listening and heard your call...FATSO lost it!...I think he had to go chop up some pills and snort them down real quick to pull himself together.
GREAT CALL!
by 3L on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 04:40:58 PM PDT
weak, Mike (1.28 / 7)
He completely annihilated you.
Rush had to prompt you at the beginning so the listeners would even understand what you were talking about.
You didn't come back with a thing to discredit him.
What a greenhorn!
by kentclark on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 04:51:43 PM PDT
"You're a fool!"" (none / 0)
That's a priceless quote.
Nothing like a little name calling to even the score.
by otto on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 08:14:16 PM PDT[ Parent ]
Turning to the fund- raising issue for a moment... (none / 0)
Have a look at this. What is this all about?http://www.yahoo.com/...
"Give it to me straight.....no ice, no fizz, no bullshit." - Jack Brotherhood in John le Carre's "A Perfect Spy"
by dubyaisbrilliant on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 05:59:01 PM PDT
i don't know what that article is about... (none / 0)
but are you sure you're not a republican shill? your ID along with a couple of your ratings and comments make you seem a bit suspect. if i'm wrong, sorry to label you "republican." i know it's the ultimate insult. ;)
sex. politics. religion. poor dinner etiquette. good blogging topics.
by eps on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 08:12:29 PM PDT[ Parent ]
I dislike Rush Immensely, but I think he was right (none / 0)
isn't attacking the Washington Times' credibility basically a straw man fallacy? Isn't what's at issue the accuracy of the report itself? The report cited in the article was done by the Center for Responsive Politics, opensecrets.org, which has been a much used source here on Kos regarding the Abramoff scandal. Does the Center for Responsive Politics lose its credibility when the Washington Times cites their data?
Now if the Washington Times incorrectly cited data from the CRP, or altered any of the data, that's a different matter.
Too bad you didn't get a chance to discuss the fighting dems with that fat fucking drug addicted loser piece of shit.
by centerline on Fri Feb 17, 2006 at 09:17:15 PM PDT
Why Not? (none / 0)
Given the nature of the screener's unsolicited offer for sex, should not Homeland Security be investigating what perversions are being offered by Limbaugh and company? Or is that if a rightwingnut makes the offer it is somehow not illegal and morally offensive to common decency?
by John the Elder on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 10:41:19 AM PDT
Wondered where Gannon went (none / 0)
Evidently Rush hires out of work Press Corps shills as screeners. EOE