There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: GERMAN TABLOID ABOUT Relationship between ATTA and Amanda Keller in Venice/F
From: "grolode" <grolode@yahoo.com>
2. Re: Re: GERMAN TABLOID ABOUT Relationship between ATTA and Amanda Keller in Venice/F
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
3. Re: Re: GERMAN TABLOID ABOUT Relationship between ATTA and Amanda Keller in Venice/F
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
4. Re: Re: 2/20 NYC
From: "ron_winn" <ron_winn@lineone.net>
5. Re: GERMAN TABLOID ABOUT Relationship between ATTA and Amanda Keller in Venice/F
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
6. Giltner is moderated now. Re: Re: GERMAN TABLOID
From: "perpetualynquisitive" <perpetualynquisitive@yahoo.com>
7. Re: Re: 2/20 NYC
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
8. Re: 2/20 NYC
From: "Rob" <robertjcash@hotmail.com>
9. Re: What exactly Should Scholars For 9/11 Truth Be Doing Before The Cameras?
From: "inphoman911" <inphoman911@yahoo.com>
10. Re: Ok, let's calm down and think about ...
From: "inphoman911" <inphoman911@yahoo.com>
11. 911scholars analysis still up..
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
12. 02/23: Fetzer, Reynolds, Griffin on Noory Show
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
13. Re: Re: 2/20 NYC
From: "malaprop" <malaprop2@msn.com>
14. Re: Re: What exactly Should Scholars For 9/11 Truth Be Doing Before The Cameras?
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
15. Re: 2/20 NYC
From: "inphoman911" <inphoman911@yahoo.com>
16. Re: What exactly Should Scholars For 9/11 Truth Be Doing Before The Cameras?
From: "inphoman911" <inphoman911@yahoo.com>
17. Re: 911scholars analysis still up..
From: "inphoman911" <inphoman911@yahoo.com>
18. Griffin on Air America
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
19. Re: Griffin on Air America
From: "Rob" <robertjcash@hotmail.com>
20. Re: Re: 2/20 NYC
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
21. Re: Re: Griffin on Air America
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
22. Re: Re:02/20 NYC
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
23. Re: Re: 02/20 NYC
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
24. Oddly old PopMech 9/11 article back in google news
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
25. Re: Griffin on Air America
From: "Rob" <robertjcash@hotmail.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:02:31 -0000
From: "grolode" <grolode@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: GERMAN TABLOID ABOUT Relationship between ATTA and Amanda Keller in Venice/F
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
wrote:
>
> Perhaps Grolo will catch onto the plotline media hoax well enough that
> Germans can turn the tide in their country like we did when they were
> planning to nuke Charleston.
> The entire Frameup is deathly scared of exposure.
Not a hoax ... I'm carefully with reading mass media articles ... as I
told you: When seing the twid towers burning I suspected The Bush
administration first (or America, like I said then).
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:11:06 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: Re: Re: GERMAN TABLOID ABOUT Relationship between ATTA and Amanda Keller in Venice/F
> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: "grolode" <grolode@yahoo.com>
> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: GERMAN TABLOID ABOUT Relationship between
> ATTA and Amanda Keller in Venice/F
> Datum: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:58:00 -0000
>
thx for the german 'terror report'
>>>>>
> Germany is my no.1 candidate for the next big 9/11, possibly during
world
> cup. Germany appears to become the new leader in war on fake terror,
also
I know that the 'Bundeskanzleramt' has viewed my homepage ....
(grolo.de) ... I've been hacked last week, my commercial HPs have been
blocked, the MRB of my linux machine (the one behind the firewall) was
overwritten ...<<<
LOL, maybe because of the contact with our list?
I'm sure the german neocons don't appreciate a rougher 9/11 view of us
"911InsideJobbers", being read by germans, which majority is also still
deceived into 'gatekeeping' on 9/11.
think about it - :)
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:37:19 -0600
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
Subject: Re: Re: GERMAN TABLOID ABOUT Relationship between ATTA and Amanda Keller in Venice/F
Mass Media Articles Always and ONLY appear if the Military Contractors
who OWN the MEDIA COMPANIES figure they can control the spin...
The hero of "Able Danger" is Big Brother Snoop Data Collection.
They want people to cheer for more data collection to "stop the next
attack."
The data collection is for collecting blackmail on people to keep them
from speaking up.
It has nothing to do with "catching terrorists." The Media is RUN BY
THE "real" TERRORISTS.
grolode wrote:
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps Grolo will catch onto the plotline media hoax well enough that
>> Germans can turn the tide in their country like we did when they were
>> planning to nuke Charleston.
>> The entire Frameup is deathly scared of exposure.
>>
>
> Not a hoax ... I'm carefully with reading mass media articles ... as I
> told you: When seing the twid towers burning I suspected The Bush
> administration first (or America, like I said then).
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:36:27 -0000
From: "ron_winn" <ron_winn@lineone.net>
Subject: Re: Re: 2/20 NYC
Bravo. And it is easy to get the no planes scenario off the ground. One simply has to remind people that the public saw "175" on the TV and as to other things that are seen on the TV that are special effects and point to the number of witnesses who tell of bombs in the towers and with that pose the question. Where do planes come into this situation. With bombs in the towers who needs planes. The answer must be then, the plane stories were used to cover up the bombs.
All you gotta say to any opposition is where were you during the attacks and how did you see "175".
All we hear generally is - I know somebody who knows somebody who saw the plane. And the answer is to repeat the early question. Then to ask have they seen the film True Lies and Arny flying a vertical take off plane or the film Jumanji with Robin Williams and the stampeding animals running through the house and in the street?
And then pose a question, well then do you think it is beyond them to fake a plane flying into the south tower and put it out on our television screens.
And that is why Stanley Praimnath is a very important witness particularly when an attempt was made to clarify his story and evidently he was not found.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosalee Grable
To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 NYC
(sigh)
Once again...I'll try to take this slow...
THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA ***IS PERPS*****
They were the ones airing phoney footage while laying out an agenda of
blame and murder.
Main stream media is owned by defense contractors and the documented
infiltration by CIA and allied spookers goes back at least 50 years.
Is this why people perfer NASA/NSA brand half truth, cos it perserves
the thought of an honest media who will restore justice if we can only
"reach" them???
This is what makes the No DAMM PLANE research so important for it's own
sake.
It points the finger at Mainstream Media and it's allied PR Firms as THE
ONES WHO ARE SETTING US UP.
Mainstream media can be pushed to improve it's level of protective
coloration as fair and crusading.
But to believe that the mainstream media can be "reached" is Lemming
Leap fools game.
One Example: Oprah had the author of a Million Little Pieces on her show
to castigate him for lying.
Then, for the next two days, Oprah has Government Bird Flu liars and
Government Terror is Inevitable liars telling bigger lies and more
important lies and more transparent lies than some poor druggie author
could ever think up.
Your demonstration seems to have sparked the Village Voice article that
is the first time a fairly mainstream media outlet has ever mentioned
that some people don't think they even used planes.
Congratulations!!! You made the first crack in the wall of silence.
Don't demean this magnificent feat by recommending we stick to pandering
liars and thieves in the future.
greg nixon wrote:
> I agree Malaprop.
>
>
> The thing I have no doubt about after 2/20 is the grassroots approach
> is hopless.
> That model worked in the 70's perhaps. Why send the truth down the
> rabbit hole, why say don't bother with the MSM, they are all corrupt
> blah blah blah, We don't have 30 years to replace MSM. We need
> aggressive tactics to get this on MSM, however possible, or it's over
> PERIOD.
>
>
>
>
>
> */malaprop <malaprop2@msn.com>/* wrote:
>
> But wasn't this demonstration targeting the offenders, rather than
> the
> public at large? That's the way I took it from the very beginning.
> And as long as the offenders got a pie in the face, then the
> demonstration was a success. This wasn't really a educational msg,
> but for insiders.
>
> You can bet Gouliani got the word, and you know Amy Goodman got the
> message. And that every time these supporters/perps of 9/11 come off
> with their double-talk, in the back of their mind, they will know
> there are unseen people saying "B__ ___!" That's unnerving.
>
> And I'm sure the march was an embarrassment to them, which it should
> be. Maybe everytime they make a bs statement to the public, instead
> of emailing them our opinion, someone with a poster outside their
> bldg. would provide suitable reminder of our presence.
>
> If it was directed to the public as a wakeup call, it was a failure.
> If it was directed to the NATION, Goodwin, NYT,
> Guiliani, etc..., it was a success.
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:57:51 -0000
From: "Lynn Ertell" <lynnertell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: GERMAN TABLOID ABOUT Relationship between ATTA and Amanda Keller in Venice/F
grolode said..
"but I see, you are not interested ! So simply forget it !"
Please, don't take offense ...."golode".
I have several of Hopsicker's books and his complete series of DVDs.
The details of his research on the shady dealings of figures like Jack
Stephens and Jack Abramoff are certainly fascinating, informative and
quite relevant.
I am only suggesting that we keep the "flight school" plotline in
proper and realistic perspective.
Personally, I am very appreciative of the ongoing activist work done
by our European comrades ... especially the Germans ... and especially
the German engineers.
Please accept my apology if I sounded too brusque or dismissive.
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "grolode" <grolode@...> wrote:
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn Ertell"
> <lynnertell@> wrote:
> >
> > Mohammed Atta, Amanda Keller and the Venice Flying Circus
>
> > = more Hollywood plotline
> > = "Bread and circuses"
> >
> > ... sure to keep the masses preoccupied and sedated with
> > entertainment, sensationalism, cheap sex and the usual diversions,
> > red-herrings and everything but the kitchen sink..
>
> Well ... not the contents of the article is interesting ! It's that
> Hopsicker was mentioned - it's the first time that I red something
> about Atta, not conforming the official story, in mainstream media
> ... and yes, altough many of you might not like Hopsicker, he is
> doing a great job !
>
> Mainstream media avoided mentioning Hopsicker yet ... Now they mention
> him .... in the most US-Administration conforming Tabloid we have here
> in Germany .... so this means something ... I'm not sure what, but it
> makes me feel we are getting a step closer into the right direction.
>
> hm, I should translate my article, ... I think I'm misunderstood ... I
> will translate it tomorrow !
>
> > effectively muddying the waters to trivialize, obscure and conceal
> > basic and essential truths.
>
> Well, that's BILD .. that's how they are ... it's the worst tabloid I
> know and it is very US-Administration friedly !
> Of course it's entertainment ! The 'risk' mentioning Hopsicker ist
> somethin they would not do without a reason. No, it's not
> sensationalism ... the Atta Keller Story is known for more than 2
> years now ... it voids the picture of the 'good muslim', not drinking
> alcohol, not having sex with a 'pegan' woman ...
>
> but I see, you are not interested ! So simply forget it !
>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:12:31 -0000
From: "perpetualynquisitive" <perpetualynquisitive@yahoo.com>
Subject: Giltner is moderated now. Re: Re: GERMAN TABLOID
The Kurt Welldone/Fable Deranger angle is a limited hangout?
Oh My. This will really upset my E-peeping Tom (from ARG), as his
"group" is all about promoting Fable Deranger.
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
wrote:
>
> > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> > Von: Rosalee Grable webfairy@...
> > An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: Giltner is moderated now. Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: GERMAN
> > TABLOID
> > Datum: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:54:23 -0600
> >
>
>
> I second this decision.
> I don't understand this overreaction at all.
>
> Ironically germany was much faster in mainstream,
> with digging to the truth than U.S., that i believe, grolo just
expected too
> much after germany got bored with too many 9/11 truthling books :)
>
> For all members, Grolo was one of the most productive forces during
2002/03,
> who helped me building bridges between US- and german 9/11
researchers,
> after i was deceived in an interview with DER SPIEGEL, which
ironically
> brought me 100s of new contacts and 56.000 hits on my old site.
>
> As far as i recall, grolo 'retired' also during 2004 and just came
back
> recently. We all still have to learn.
>
> Able Danger is a limited hangout and deceptive or overexaggerated
> interpretations are not tolerated here in this list.
> This as another reminder for 'newbies'.
>
> Sorry for this incident. Please everyone calm down... -:)
>
> nico
>
> PS: Grolo, please check out the Able Danger thread at team8plus.
> We also bring background on Weldon and tried to point on plotline
> propaganda.
>
>
> >>>>Giltner is moderated now.
> Thank you to Grolode for answering civilly despite the provocation.
>
> I agree it is unfortunate that a nipped and tucked subset of "truth"
> larded with lies, and great facts are left floating in a sea of bilge.
> I do not agree with namecalling.
> This is a new member who is obviously not aware that Hopsicker + Able
> Danger equals a hangout game.
>
> Whether half-truth is better than no truth at all is still open to
debate.
>
>
>
> Bill Giltner wrote:
> > When you posted this grolode, I assumed that you were posting it to
> > show the extent of the disinfo that is being put out.
> >
> > It's now crystal clear that you posted it as a document showing that
> > 9/11 Truth is getting out.
> >
> > You are a disgusting piece of *** ****.<<<
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:20:31 -0600
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
Subject: Re: Re: 2/20 NYC
Brilliant
EXCEPT -- You seem to be lumping the first hit footage, which is
authentic snuff film -with the second hit cartoons.
malaprop wrote:
> Alex, and all, you gotta change your perception.
>
> We are not dealing with a government--that's their disguise. We are
> dealing with organized crime that took over the governement to
> facilitate their illegal operations, and to develop new ones. They do
> not care about duty honor country, and that goes for Congress, and a
> chunk of military brass. A ton of military retirements happened after
> 9/11, meaning the good ones left.
>
> CNN heads and other TV media are as guilty as the ones that placed the
> bombs, and were in on the planning as was needed to synchronize the
> event. They had to be. I'm now of the opinion, or at least leaning
> that way, that ALL footage seen that day prior to the collapses was
> ready-made off the shelf, some impact shots were held back to keep up
> a psychological fever pitch over a period of time. This was a script,
> and looking back I do not see them risking any snafus when deception
> is so easy. Even the "gashes" were pre-packaged, and only a
> resemblance was necessary thru bomb placement.
>
> The only planes ever seen were those on the TV screen, and anyone who
> suggested otherwise was ignored. The TV anchors reported what they
> saw on their monitors.
>
> I feel that all the CNN people were over time replaced with
> hand-picked Bush/elite supporters. The last thing you want around
> you is someone who thinks and "gets it", so out they go. They may all
> Zionists, for that matter,
>
> So that means that they will never allow let alone encourage the truth
> to come out about how CNN plotted against America.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "alexldent" <alexldent@yahoo.com>
> To: <911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:29 AM
> Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 NYC
>
>
> A couple of thoughts:
>
> 1) not all of the media are perps. It seems like we should be able to
> get some
> decent-minded media types to turn on the bad guys.
>
> 2) a couple of years ago, there was hardly any talk of the WTC being
> blown
> up. Now demolition is all over the place and fairly widely accepted
> by 9/11
> skeptics. I predict in another year or two, video manipulation will
> just as
> widely accepted-- if we work at it. The important thing, the video
> fakery is so
> damn obvous once you know where to look.
>
>
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
> wrote:
>
>>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>>> Von: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
>>> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
>>> Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 NYC
>>> Datum: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:59:12 -0600
>>>
>>>
>> Maybe i just needed a refreshing pusher.
>> I will not give up yet :)
>> There is also still enough space to give the perps a hard time...
>>
>> Let's work on the 'prank' soon. I have now my tv team together.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> ahem.
>>>>>
>> We've turned a corner on them, and suddenly you decide there's
>> nothing
>> left to do but pray, and we're too late and too small?
>>
>> Heh.
>> Four years ago I figured there was nothing to do but pray cos we
>> were
>> too late and all there was was me - alone - having noticed there was
>> no
>> plane at the first hit -- my first real clue how to dump the whole
>> frameup.
>>
>> Talk about asymmetrical odds!!
>>
>> It is four years and some later, and I am still alive, a fact that
>> amazes me all by itself.
>> We've managed to drive the lemmings back from the cliff numerous
>> times
>> while we work out how to release them from their lemming spell.
>>
>> Now we are looking forward to a national tour
>> http://911bluestour.com/
>> To boogie our way to freedom.<<
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:07:46 -0000
From: "Rob" <robertjcash@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 2/20 NYC
But Alex, "ALL" the many members of the so-called "MSM" wouldn't have
to be directly in on the 9/11 scam for it to effectivly prevent
dissemination of 9/11 Truth.
The MSM operates like a pyramid, with many, MANY reporters, technicians
etc. on the bottom and very FEW people who ACTUALLY CONTROL what gets on
the air at the very top.
Reporters can get NOTHING on the air without approval from up top.
Therfore, just a few well-placed operatives in key decision making
positions is all that's needed to determine what MILLIONS come to view
as "Truth".
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "alexldent" <alexldent@...>
wrote:
>
> >>>They used media hoax. And now you guys expect to go to the hoaxers
for
> relief.<<<<
>
> You got a better plan? :)
>
> Seriously, I find it hard to believe that ALL the msm is in on 9/11
and that we
> can't trust ANY of them.
>
> The other point is that we simply don't have time or capital to build
our own
> media, so we have to use the msm to some extent, if we really care
about
> spreading the word.
>
>
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable webfairy@
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It was beyond
> > > > scary to see their blank or confused stares over and over again.
> > Heh. Yay for a dose of what I see daily, even here.
> > Idiot suckers, even right here in this group who STILL have not
grokked
> > that 911 was a STAGED MEDIA HOAX.
> >
> > Yes, the blankness is scarey.
> >
> > I am not worried about THEIR blankness, but YOUR BLANKNESS and the
> > blankness of EVERY SCHNOOKIEDUPED SUCKER who imagines the
> MSM as
> > something other than frontline perps.
> >
> > THEY DIDN'T USE PLANES.
> > They used media hoax. And now you guys expect to go to the hoaxers
for
> > relief.
> > I am thinking people are really looking forward to being dead
schnookies
> > with their children used as food.
> >
> > THEY DIDN'T USE PLANES.
> > This is a singularly important fact, which is why the TRUTHING
> > NSA/NASA/Urantia setup crew has you brainwashed into thinking it
doesn't
> > matter whether they used arabs or newsbunnies to strike at the heart
of
> > America.
> >
> >
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:12:46 -0000
From: "inphoman911" <inphoman911@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: What exactly Should Scholars For 9/11 Truth Be Doing Before The Cameras?
Get a transcript of Griffins 10/16/05 lecture on the towers. That
is the most powerful way to appeal to the non newcomers and
believers. In less than 1 hour it takes them straight to MIHOP and
avoids alot of disinfo traps.
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "alexldent" <alexldent@...>
wrote:
>
> excellent thoughts. I am a assoc. professor at my local
university--
> last night I decided I wanted to "come out of the closet" and give
> some sort of lecture/presentation on 9/11. what you say here fits
my
> thoughts very well. the only problem is I am a biologist not an
> engineer, but by now I think I could give a fairly scientific talk
> even on the wtc.
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Ed Barner
> <edwinatlcom.net@> wrote:
> >
> > I hope to see a lot of input on this question.
> > Here are a few thoughts.
> >
> > The media wants to be seen as spectators not teachers.
> > I think they'd want to report on a spectacle of some kind.
> >
> > I like the idea of having S9/11T in front of college crowds if
> possible,
> > architectural or engineering connections are obviously best.
although
> > they know more what venues they might be comfortable in.
> >
> > The cover up is one main weakness of the conspirators.
> >
> > I have asked that people with non disclosure agreements break
them
> > based on the following.
> >
> > " If Dad, kills Mom and blames the bogyman,
> > Don't help Dad hide his crime.
> >
> > Rat Dad off.
> >
> > Get a new dad who doesn't kill family members."
> >
> >
> > Do the math.
> > 9/11 + cover up = treason.
> >
> > Specific people aided the cover up. They can be pointed out for
> > questioning about their actions in destroying evidence and
suppressing
> > witness accounts
> > The cover up can be traced to the perps.
> > No one does a cover up of a crime they are not connected to.
> > "If 9/11 was done by arabs, why was there a cover up of
forensic,
> > eyewitness and photographic evidence and who was in a position
to have
> > done it? "
> >
> > Bob Graham and Porter Goss were doing _What_ when the first
plane hit
> > the north tower?
> >
> > The falseness of the war on terra is becoming apparent to the
average
> > man on the street.
> > The war on 'terra ' is based on 9/11
> > It follows that a false flag event would not have a real
emergency
> > reaction from a concerned government.
> > They have made no appropriate reaction because they know of the
> > falseness of the 'emergency' and appropriateness now just
consists of
> > cashing in, which is what they have done.
> >
> > Strong points that I have not seen made elsewhere,
> > The lack of layering in the buildings debris pile is a smoking
gun
> > because the materials were thoroughly mixed and did not stratify
as
> > would be appropriate for an unaided collapse. the lack of
layering
> > means explosives were used.
> > The presence on the 78th floor of the south tower of Battalion
Chief
> > Orio J. Palmer and Fire Marshal Ronald P.* *Bucca, make blast
furnace
> > temperatures there, impossible.
> >
> > Just my comments .
> > I hope thery are lost in a sea if great suggestions.
> >
> > Here's a parting thought.
> > What if bush lost our ports because of blackmail ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > inphoman911 wrote:
> >
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:17:39 -0000
From: "inphoman911" <inphoman911@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Ok, let's calm down and think about ...
"but in my opinion it's still not provable (yet)."
so what do you call freefall collapse?
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "grolode" <grolode@...>
wrote:
>
> ... how to team up ....
>
> I mean my belifs and methods are different from the most people's
> belifs and methods in this channel ... surely, I am not up to
date ...
> I've missed 1 1/2 years - there might be a lot new evidence ... but
> the basic idea of a military operation that was carried out at 9/11
> (also referred as MIHOP in the past, I think this term ran out of
> fashion due the religeous MIHOP LIHOP problems) ist still my
belif ...
> but in my opinion it's still not provable (yet).
>
> I am currently working on new projects and I have to find a job,
so my
> time is limited - and 9/11 is not the only political topic i am
> dealing with ... we have a lot of inner problems in Germany and I
am
> focusing on that right now.
>
> I wrote a mail to gerhard wisnewski today, one of the diffamated
> German book authors, and film maker who has also interviewed nico
> (broadcasted on German TV). I'm still fascinated by the multimedial
> idea, although I am onto other methods than a year a or 2 ago. I
liked
> the 'sceptics Unite' idea and maybe a common project would be a
nice
> idea ... I think it's the right time now !
>
> Any projects running ? Any cross atlantic projects running ?
>
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:32:05 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: 911scholars analysis still up..
...dunno, but my analysis is still up.
I think, i posted it into 2 categories. Apparently it's gone from the 9/11
section.
It's still here though:
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/02/334347.shtml
Scholars for 911truth- False Hope Project?
also recommended:
9/11 Gatekeeping - a classic textbook example
by theSaiGirl aka Lynn Ertell
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/02/334400.shtml
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:55:44 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: 02/23: Fetzer, Reynolds, Griffin on Noory Show
02/23: Fetzer, Reynolds, Griffin on Noory Show
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/02/23.html
...this will become interesting. Noory isn't the most credible radio host,
what 9/11 'truth' depends and 911Scholars had been recently under some
criticism.
My biggest hope is Morgan Reynolds, who might bring the biggest pepper into
all this....
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:57:26 -0800
From: "malaprop" <malaprop2@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Re: 2/20 NYC
Yes, I am, as this is where I am at. With it being so risk-free to use
pre-packaged video, why would they use the Naudet film of the impact?
Taking it apart, it looks like the opening could have been shot on a
Sunday or Labor Day--why would they have included an actual film when
a fake would have been so much better, and would not have looked like
possibly a missile? The smoke and fireball--how do we know that
wasn't artwork? So many of the clips of wtc2 do not match in
coloration--deliberately I suppose to make it look different cameras,
rather than different forgers.
It was shown the next morning--could they have had two clips to choose
from--one fake, one real? The whatchamacallits that are in the sky,
could these be the mark of a whistleblower, unnoticed by supervisors,
and only a researcher would discover?
The distance still should have enabled a clearer resolution than we
got. I just don't see these guys risking showing real clips.
http://www.405themovie.com/download405.asp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosalee Grable" <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
To: <911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 NYC
Brilliant
EXCEPT -- You seem to be lumping the first hit footage, which is
authentic snuff film -with the second hit cartoons.
malaprop wrote:
> Alex, and all, you gotta change your perception.
>
> We are not dealing with a government--that's their disguise. We are
> dealing with organized crime that took over the governement to
> facilitate their illegal operations, and to develop new ones. They
> do
> not care about duty honor country, and that goes for Congress, and a
> chunk of military brass. A ton of military retirements happened
> after
> 9/11, meaning the good ones left.
>
> CNN heads and other TV media are as guilty as the ones that placed
> the
> bombs, and were in on the planning as was needed to synchronize the
> event. They had to be. I'm now of the opinion, or at least
> leaning
> that way, that ALL footage seen that day prior to the collapses was
> ready-made off the shelf, some impact shots were held back to keep
> up
> a psychological fever pitch over a period of time. This was a
> script,
> and looking back I do not see them risking any snafus when deception
> is so easy. Even the "gashes" were pre-packaged, and only a
> resemblance was necessary thru bomb placement.
>
> The only planes ever seen were those on the TV screen, and anyone
> who
> suggested otherwise was ignored. The TV anchors reported what they
> saw on their monitors.
>
> I feel that all the CNN people were over time replaced with
> hand-picked Bush/elite supporters. The last thing you want around
> you is someone who thinks and "gets it", so out they go. They may
> all
> Zionists, for that matter,
>
> So that means that they will never allow let alone encourage the
> truth
> to come out about how CNN plotted against America.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "alexldent" <alexldent@yahoo.com>
> To: <911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:29 AM
> Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 NYC
>
>
> A couple of thoughts:
>
> 1) not all of the media are perps. It seems like we should be able
> to
> get some
> decent-minded media types to turn on the bad guys.
>
> 2) a couple of years ago, there was hardly any talk of the WTC being
> blown
> up. Now demolition is all over the place and fairly widely accepted
> by 9/11
> skeptics. I predict in another year or two, video manipulation will
> just as
> widely accepted-- if we work at it. The important thing, the video
> fakery is so
> damn obvous once you know where to look.
>
>
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt"
> <nicohaupt@...>
> wrote:
>
>>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>>> Von: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
>>> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
>>> Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 NYC
>>> Datum: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:59:12 -0600
>>>
>>>
>> Maybe i just needed a refreshing pusher.
>> I will not give up yet :)
>> There is also still enough space to give the perps a hard time...
>>
>> Let's work on the 'prank' soon. I have now my tv team together.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> ahem.
>>>>>
>> We've turned a corner on them, and suddenly you decide there's
>> nothing
>> left to do but pray, and we're too late and too small?
>>
>> Heh.
>> Four years ago I figured there was nothing to do but pray cos we
>> were
>> too late and all there was was me - alone - having noticed there
>> was
>> no
>> plane at the first hit -- my first real clue how to dump the whole
>> frameup.
>>
>> Talk about asymmetrical odds!!
>>
>> It is four years and some later, and I am still alive, a fact that
>> amazes me all by itself.
>> We've managed to drive the lemmings back from the cliff numerous
>> times
>> while we work out how to release them from their lemming spell.
>>
>> Now we are looking forward to a national tour
>> http://911bluestour.com/
>> To boogie our way to freedom.<<
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:58:23 -0600
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
Subject: Re: Re: What exactly Should Scholars For 9/11 Truth Be Doing Before The Cameras?
But MIHOP is another disinfo trap too.
It's all to breed a successful brand of lie that will satisfy the
schnookie's curiosity and keep them from scattering too far afield.
The Inquisition Team Holmgren is battling is still trying to make people
believe that two planes worth of jet fuel created the devastation
<http://thewebfairy.com/911/demolition/DemolitionX>.
Holmgren is not against demolition, and is coming up with a good set of
proofs even.
He is against All Demolition All The Time.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/01/332076.html
Anyone who wants to can post. The link is beneath Greg Nixon's starter
post about 02/20
inphoman911 wrote:
> Get a transcript of Griffins 10/16/05 lecture on the towers. That
> is the most powerful way to appeal to the non newcomers and
> believers. In less than 1 hour it takes them straight to MIHOP and
> avoids alot of disinfo traps.
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "alexldent" <alexldent@...>
> wrote:
>
>> excellent thoughts. I am a assoc. professor at my local
>>
> university--
>
>> last night I decided I wanted to "come out of the closet" and give
>> some sort of lecture/presentation on 9/11. what you say here fits
>>
> my
>
>> thoughts very well. the only problem is I am a biologist not an
>> engineer, but by now I think I could give a fairly scientific talk
>> even on the wtc.
>>
>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Ed Barner
>> <edwinatlcom.net@> wrote:
>>
>>> I hope to see a lot of input on this question.
>>> Here are a few thoughts.
>>>
>>> The media wants to be seen as spectators not teachers.
>>> I think they'd want to report on a spectacle of some kind.
>>>
>>> I like the idea of having S9/11T in front of college crowds if
>>>
>> possible,
>>
>>> architectural or engineering connections are obviously best.
>>>
> although
>
>>> they know more what venues they might be comfortable in.
>>>
>>> The cover up is one main weakness of the conspirators.
>>>
>>> I have asked that people with non disclosure agreements break
>>>
> them
>
>>> based on the following.
>>>
>>> " If Dad, kills Mom and blames the bogyman,
>>> Don't help Dad hide his crime.
>>>
>>> Rat Dad off.
>>>
>>> Get a new dad who doesn't kill family members."
>>>
>>>
>>> Do the math.
>>> 9/11 + cover up = treason.
>>>
>>> Specific people aided the cover up. They can be pointed out for
>>> questioning about their actions in destroying evidence and
>>>
> suppressing
>
>>> witness accounts
>>> The cover up can be traced to the perps.
>>> No one does a cover up of a crime they are not connected to.
>>> "If 9/11 was done by arabs, why was there a cover up of
>>>
> forensic,
>
>>> eyewitness and photographic evidence and who was in a position
>>>
> to have
>
>>> done it? "
>>>
>>> Bob Graham and Porter Goss were doing _What_ when the first
>>>
> plane hit
>
>>> the north tower?
>>>
>>> The falseness of the war on terra is becoming apparent to the
>>>
> average
>
>>> man on the street.
>>> The war on 'terra ' is based on 9/11
>>> It follows that a false flag event would not have a real
>>>
> emergency
>
>>> reaction from a concerned government.
>>> They have made no appropriate reaction because they know of the
>>> falseness of the 'emergency' and appropriateness now just
>>>
> consists of
>
>>> cashing in, which is what they have done.
>>>
>>> Strong points that I have not seen made elsewhere,
>>> The lack of layering in the buildings debris pile is a smoking
>>>
> gun
>
>>> because the materials were thoroughly mixed and did not stratify
>>>
> as
>
>>> would be appropriate for an unaided collapse. the lack of
>>>
> layering
>
>>> means explosives were used.
>>> The presence on the 78th floor of the south tower of Battalion
>>>
> Chief
>
>>> Orio J. Palmer and Fire Marshal Ronald P.* *Bucca, make blast
>>>
> furnace
>
>>> temperatures there, impossible.
>>>
>>> Just my comments .
>>> I hope thery are lost in a sea if great suggestions.
>>>
>>> Here's a parting thought.
>>> What if bush lost our ports because of blackmail ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> inphoman911 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Where do you want them to go, and what do you want them to
>>>>
> say. Be
>
>>>> breif but specific.
>>>>
>>>>
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> ment+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig=S_3-
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> nment+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Government+lease&w5=G
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:10:07 -0000
From: "inphoman911" <inphoman911@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 2/20 NYC
Winewski explained pretty well what happens inside the media.
Someone posted the links a few weeks ago.
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <robertjcash@...>
wrote:
>
> But Alex, "ALL" the many members of the so-called "MSM" wouldn't
have
> to be directly in on the 9/11 scam for it to effectivly prevent
> dissemination of 9/11 Truth.
>
> The MSM operates like a pyramid, with many, MANY reporters,
technicians
> etc. on the bottom and very FEW people who ACTUALLY CONTROL what
gets on
> the air at the very top.
>
> Reporters can get NOTHING on the air without approval from up top.
> Therfore, just a few well-placed operatives in key decision making
> positions is all that's needed to determine what MILLIONS come to
view
> as "Truth".
>
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "alexldent" <alexldent@>
> wrote:
> >
> > >>>They used media hoax. And now you guys expect to go to the
hoaxers
> for
> > relief.<<<<
> >
> > You got a better plan? :)
> >
> > Seriously, I find it hard to believe that ALL the msm is in on
9/11
> and that we
> > can't trust ANY of them.
> >
> > The other point is that we simply don't have time or capital to
build
> our own
> > media, so we have to use the msm to some extent, if we really
care
> about
> > spreading the word.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable webfairy@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > It was beyond
> > > > > scary to see their blank or confused stares over and over
again.
> > > Heh. Yay for a dose of what I see daily, even here.
> > > Idiot suckers, even right here in this group who STILL have not
> grokked
> > > that 911 was a STAGED MEDIA HOAX.
> > >
> > > Yes, the blankness is scarey.
> > >
> > > I am not worried about THEIR blankness, but YOUR BLANKNESS and
the
> > > blankness of EVERY SCHNOOKIEDUPED SUCKER who imagines the
> > MSM as
> > > something other than frontline perps.
> > >
> > > THEY DIDN'T USE PLANES.
> > > They used media hoax. And now you guys expect to go to the
hoaxers
> for
> > > relief.
> > > I am thinking people are really looking forward to being dead
> schnookies
> > > with their children used as food.
> > >
> > > THEY DIDN'T USE PLANES.
> > > This is a singularly important fact, which is why the TRUTHING
> > > NSA/NASA/Urantia setup crew has you brainwashed into thinking
it
> doesn't
> > > matter whether they used arabs or newsbunnies to strike at the
heart
> of
> > > America.
> > >
> > >
> >
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:15:50 -0000
From: "inphoman911" <inphoman911@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: What exactly Should Scholars For 9/11 Truth Be Doing Before The Cameras?
What besides controlled demolition MIHOP do you suggest we promote
to convert an amateur Michael Moore believer + Bush supporter 9/11
truth audience? Why isn't converting the majority of an amateur
audience to undisputed 9/11 MIHOP in under 1 hour a success in your
book? Who else can pull that off as well as Griffin?
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable
<webfairy@...> wrote:
>
> But MIHOP is another disinfo trap too.
> It's all to breed a successful brand of lie that will satisfy the
> schnookie's curiosity and keep them from scattering too far afield.
>
> The Inquisition Team Holmgren is battling is still trying to make
people
> believe that two planes worth of jet fuel created the devastation
> <http://thewebfairy.com/911/demolition/DemolitionX>.
>
> Holmgren is not against demolition, and is coming up with a good
set of
> proofs even.
> He is against All Demolition All The Time.
> http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/01/332076.html
>
> Anyone who wants to can post. The link is beneath Greg Nixon's
starter
> post about 02/20
>
>
>
> inphoman911 wrote:
> > Get a transcript of Griffins 10/16/05 lecture on the towers.
That
> > is the most powerful way to appeal to the non newcomers and
> > believers. In less than 1 hour it takes them straight to MIHOP
and
> > avoids alot of disinfo traps.
> >
> > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "alexldent"
<alexldent@>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> excellent thoughts. I am a assoc. professor at my local
> >>
> > university--
> >
> >> last night I decided I wanted to "come out of the closet" and
give
> >> some sort of lecture/presentation on 9/11. what you say here
fits
> >>
> > my
> >
> >> thoughts very well. the only problem is I am a biologist not an
> >> engineer, but by now I think I could give a fairly scientific
talk
> >> even on the wtc.
> >>
> >> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Ed Barner
> >> <edwinatlcom.net@> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I hope to see a lot of input on this question.
> >>> Here are a few thoughts.
> >>>
> >>> The media wants to be seen as spectators not teachers.
> >>> I think they'd want to report on a spectacle of some kind.
> >>>
> >>> I like the idea of having S9/11T in front of college crowds if
> >>>
> >> possible,
> >>
> >>> architectural or engineering connections are obviously best.
> >>>
> > although
> >
> >>> they know more what venues they might be comfortable in.
> >>>
> >>> The cover up is one main weakness of the conspirators.
> >>>
> >>> I have asked that people with non disclosure agreements break
> >>>
> > them
> >
> >>> based on the following.
> >>>
> >>> " If Dad, kills Mom and blames the bogyman,
> >>> Don't help Dad hide his crime.
> >>>
> >>> Rat Dad off.
> >>>
> >>> Get a new dad who doesn't kill family members."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do the math.
> >>> 9/11 + cover up = treason.
> >>>
> >>> Specific people aided the cover up. They can be pointed out
for
> >>> questioning about their actions in destroying evidence and
> >>>
> > suppressing
> >
> >>> witness accounts
> >>> The cover up can be traced to the perps.
> >>> No one does a cover up of a crime they are not connected to.
> >>> "If 9/11 was done by arabs, why was there a cover up of
> >>>
> > forensic,
> >
> >>> eyewitness and photographic evidence and who was in a position
> >>>
> > to have
> >
> >>> done it? "
> >>>
> >>> Bob Graham and Porter Goss were doing _What_ when the first
> >>>
> > plane hit
> >
> >>> the north tower?
> >>>
> >>> The falseness of the war on terra is becoming apparent to the
> >>>
> > average
> >
> >>> man on the street.
> >>> The war on 'terra ' is based on 9/11
> >>> It follows that a false flag event would not have a real
> >>>
> > emergency
> >
> >>> reaction from a concerned government.
> >>> They have made no appropriate reaction because they know of
the
> >>> falseness of the 'emergency' and appropriateness now just
> >>>
> > consists of
> >
> >>> cashing in, which is what they have done.
> >>>
> >>> Strong points that I have not seen made elsewhere,
> >>> The lack of layering in the buildings debris pile is a smoking
> >>>
> > gun
> >
> >>> because the materials were thoroughly mixed and did not
stratify
> >>>
> > as
> >
> >>> would be appropriate for an unaided collapse. the lack of
> >>>
> > layering
> >
> >>> means explosives were used.
> >>> The presence on the 78th floor of the south tower of Battalion
> >>>
> > Chief
> >
> >>> Orio J. Palmer and Fire Marshal Ronald P.* *Bucca, make blast
> >>>
> > furnace
> >
> >>> temperatures there, impossible.
> >>>
> >>> Just my comments .
> >>> I hope thery are lost in a sea if great suggestions.
> >>>
> >>> Here's a parting thought.
> >>> What if bush lost our ports because of blackmail ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> inphoman911 wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:18:06 -0000
From: "inphoman911" <inphoman911@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 911scholars analysis still up..
This is some good work Nico.
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt"
<nicohaupt@...> wrote:
>
> ...dunno, but my analysis is still up.
> I think, i posted it into 2 categories. Apparently it's gone from
the 9/11
> section.
> It's still here though:
>
> http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/02/334347.shtml
> Scholars for 911truth- False Hope Project?
>
> also recommended:
> 9/11 Gatekeeping - a classic textbook example
> by theSaiGirl aka Lynn Ertell
> http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/02/334400.shtml
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:22:52 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: Griffin on Air America
...whatever that means, i'm still skeptical of Air America.
I'm just passing this around for a possible analysis of this show.
"...David Ray Griffin will be on the Mike Malloy show tonight at 10 PM. You
can listen to it live online by going to
http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen.
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:25:53 -0000
From: "Rob" <robertjcash@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Griffin on Air America
I get a "Page Not Found (404 Error)" from that link Nico.
[:(]
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
wrote:
>
> ...whatever that means, i'm still skeptical of Air America.
> I'm just passing this around for a possible analysis of this show.
>
> "...David Ray Griffin will be on the Mike Malloy show tonight at 10
PM. You
> can listen to it live online by going to
> http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen.
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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:29:46 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: Re: Re: 2/20 NYC
> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: "malaprop" <malaprop2@msn.com>
> An: <911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com>
> Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 NYC
> Datum: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:57:26 -0800
>
malaprop,
i generally think that the argument of what was 'risky' or not for
the 9/11 perps is pretty lame, frankly spoken.
Was the controlled demolition a "risk"?
Was faking cell phone talks a "risk"?
Was any Bin laden audio/video tape a "risk"? etc... etc...
This government and their globalist payrollers can still do whatever they
want and it doesn't matter, even if bush has 15% approval.
The outcome is the same. 9/11 truth movement is clear mainstream, nothing
has changed.
The elements which they chose often had been chosen on purpose, sometimes
they maybe even didn't care.
In this case, they just "got it right":
The majority "SEES" a plane, still now and i bet $1000,
that the majority didn't even see Naudet's tape or confused it with the
second hit or even didn't see this clip at all as well.
Then also, carefully orchestrated, any analysis of any video was shut down
by 9/11 truthlings for 3-4 years.
So where was the "risk"??
>>>>The distance still should have enabled a clearer resolution than we
got. I just don't see these guys risking showing real clips.
http://www.405themovie.com/download405.asp
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:37:02 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: Re: Re: Griffin on Air America
> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: "Rob" <robertjcash@hotmail.com>
> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Griffin on Air America
> Datum: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:25:53 -0000
http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
should work. up at 10 PM....
> I get a "Page Not Found (404 Error)" from that link Nico.
>
> [:(]
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > ...whatever that means, i'm still skeptical of Air America.
> > I'm just passing this around for a possible analysis of this show.
> >
> > "...David Ray Griffin will be on the Mike Malloy show tonight at 10
> PM. You
> > can listen to it live online by going to
> > http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen.
> >
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:38:21 -0600
From: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
Subject: Re: Re:02/20 NYC
I have been studying this footage close up and personal for four years
and better now....
Do you really think that I am so blind and stupid as to not be able to
pick up IN FOUR YEARS OF CLOSE STUDY if the first hit imagery was fake?
The implicent insult to my intelligence, character and motivation tucked
inside this particular craphead lie has managed to set off my anger
repeatedly and alienate friends.
I think I have learned my lesson now and will remain calm even tho I
percieve your tubby idea is more insulting than the insult I moderated
somebody for.
I have known I need to put words to the Missilegate, and I wrote the
words during a similarly distasteful session with Peter Meyer and Lynn
which isn't posted anywhere yet, but does need to be posted as
commentary to the missilegate frames.
These are real, authentic, WAY WAY too detailed images to have
originated as any form of animation or cartoon....
http:://thewebfairy.com/911/flyingpig/beautyshots
compare with the enlargements of the "tailfin" on the Pentagon Art Frames.
http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/multiframes.htm
click any of the titles above the sets of pictures to be wisked away to
commentary which links to enlargements of most sets of art frames.
The Beautyshots are infinitely detailed.
These are artistically enhanced enlargements at least 10,000 times
enlarged and they still show subtle character.
In the art frames, even a 300 percent enlargement of the "tailfin"
equals flat characterless monocolor.
No animation technique could do that.
It took months or years to produce a version of the Pentagon Art Frames
which could be animated for video.
In the Missilegate Frames, The complex and peculiar nature of the images
remains complex and peculiar no matter how they are dealt.
http://thewebfairy.com/911/missilegate/video.htm
All the cartoons show a "plane" pushed along kind of like a rubber stamp.
Not here:
http://thewebfairy.com/911/slideshow/beautyshots
Since it bothers me so bad, All the Anti_Webfairy types are going band
together to pass off that those aren't really a flock of top secret
drones, but a cartoon, just to keep the lies in play.
It is real. It is a real snuff film.
http:..911foreknowledge.com
at most they have snipped out a few frames because there are continuity
lapses.
Whatever is there is set out to brag -- as the perps laugh cos you can
wave this stuff in front of their face and you'd rather call me an
incompetent liar than face that last straw that favors "rationality"
over reason.
If one thing is a cartoon, then everything is a cartoon is a very
primitive logic pattern for which I have no respect. It's the sort of
slimeballing I'd expect from Break For News.
malaprop wrote:
> Yes, I am, as this is where I am at. With it being so risk-free to use
> pre-packaged video, why would they use the Naudet film of the impact?
> Taking it apart, it looks like the opening could have been shot on a
> Sunday or Labor Day--why would they have included an actual film when
> a fake would have been so much better, and would not have looked like
> possibly a missile? The smoke and fireball--how do we know that
> wasn't artwork? So many of the clips of wtc2 do not match in
> coloration--deliberately I suppose to make it look different cameras,
> rather than different forgers.
>
> It was shown the next morning--could they have had two clips to choose
> from--one fake, one real? The whatchamacallits that are in the sky,
> could these be the mark of a whistleblower, unnoticed by supervisors,
> and only a researcher would discover?
>
> The distance still should have enabled a clearer resolution than we
> got. I just don't see these guys risking showing real clips.
>
>
>
> http://www.405themovie.com/download405.asp
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rosalee Grable" <webfairy@thewebfairy.com>
> To: <911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 NYC
>
>
> Brilliant
>
> EXCEPT -- You seem to be lumping the first hit footage, which is
> authentic snuff film -with the second hit cartoons.
>
>
> malaprop wrote:
>
>> Alex, and all, you gotta change your perception.
>>
>> We are not dealing with a government--that's their disguise. We are
>> dealing with organized crime that took over the governement to
>> facilitate their illegal operations, and to develop new ones. They
>> do
>> not care about duty honor country, and that goes for Congress, and a
>> chunk of military brass. A ton of military retirements happened
>> after
>> 9/11, meaning the good ones left.
>>
>> CNN heads and other TV media are as guilty as the ones that placed
>> the
>> bombs, and were in on the planning as was needed to synchronize the
>> event. They had to be. I'm now of the opinion, or at least
>> leaning
>> that way, that ALL footage seen that day prior to the collapses was
>> ready-made off the shelf, some impact shots were held back to keep
>> up
>> a psychological fever pitch over a period of time. This was a
>> script,
>> and looking back I do not see them risking any snafus when deception
>> is so easy. Even the "gashes" were pre-packaged, and only a
>> resemblance was necessary thru bomb placement.
>>
>> The only planes ever seen were those on the TV screen, and anyone
>> who
>> suggested otherwise was ignored. The TV anchors reported what they
>> saw on their monitors.
>>
>> I feel that all the CNN people were over time replaced with
>> hand-picked Bush/elite supporters. The last thing you want around
>> you is someone who thinks and "gets it", so out they go. They may
>> all
>> Zionists, for that matter,
>>
>> So that means that they will never allow let alone encourage the
>> truth
>> to come out about how CNN plotted against America.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "alexldent" <alexldent@yahoo.com>
>> To: <911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:29 AM
>> Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 NYC
>>
>>
>> A couple of thoughts:
>>
>> 1) not all of the media are perps. It seems like we should be able
>> to
>> get some
>> decent-minded media types to turn on the bad guys.
>>
>> 2) a couple of years ago, there was hardly any talk of the WTC being
>> blown
>> up. Now demolition is all over the place and fairly widely accepted
>> by 9/11
>> skeptics. I predict in another year or two, video manipulation will
>> just as
>> widely accepted-- if we work at it. The important thing, the video
>> fakery is so
>> damn obvous once you know where to look.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt"
>> <nicohaupt@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
>>>> Von: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
>>>> An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 NYC
>>>> Datum: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:59:12 -0600
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Maybe i just needed a refreshing pusher.
>>> I will not give up yet :)
>>> There is also still enough space to give the perps a hard time...
>>>
>>> Let's work on the 'prank' soon. I have now my tv team together.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> ahem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> We've turned a corner on them, and suddenly you decide there's
>>> nothing
>>> left to do but pray, and we're too late and too small?
>>>
>>> Heh.
>>> Four years ago I figured there was nothing to do but pray cos we
>>> were
>>> too late and all there was was me - alone - having noticed there
>>> was
>>> no
>>> plane at the first hit -- my first real clue how to dump the whole
>>> frameup.
>>>
>>> Talk about asymmetrical odds!!
>>>
>>> It is four years and some later, and I am still alive, a fact that
>>> amazes me all by itself.
>>> We've managed to drive the lemmings back from the cliff numerous
>>> times
>>> while we work out how to release them from their lemming spell.
>>>
>>> Now we are looking forward to a national tour
>>> http://911bluestour.com/
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:46:30 -0800 (PST)
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: 02/20 NYC
Rosalee,
Love the idea! I can crawl back out of my depression if this is for real
Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com> wrote:
Under their system, we get to spread a subset of information that puts
us in thrll to one or another perp faction.
Each different hangout has it's own audience and is fighting the rest
for market share.
Yes, I have a better farking plan.
It involves harnessing the fundamental forces of the universe..
http://911bluestour.com
The math of Aether is the math of sonics and harmonics and scales at
bluesjam frequencies.
WE will spread the art of jam and leave pan bands in our wake.
Panbands making joyous noise create lasting and significant positive
change unobtainable by bitching.
Thankfulness for every good thing, even if the only good thing at the
time was the music itself, has risen humanity from depths unimaginable
to today's schnookies on the menu.
alexldent wrote:
>>>> They used media hoax. And now you guys expect to go to the hoaxers for
>>>>
> relief.<<<<
>
> You got a better plan? :)
>
> Seriously, I find it hard to believe that ALL the msm is in on 9/11 and that we
> can't trust ANY of them.
>
> The other point is that we simply don't have time or capital to build our own
> media, so we have to use the msm to some extent, if we really care about
> spreading the word.
>
>
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
> wrote:
>
>>> It was beyond
>>>
>>>> scary to see their blank or confused stares over and over again.
>>>>
>> Heh. Yay for a dose of what I see daily, even here.
>> Idiot suckers, even right here in this group who STILL have not grokked
>> that 911 was a STAGED MEDIA HOAX.
>>
>> Yes, the blankness is scarey.
>>
>> I am not worried about THEIR blankness, but YOUR BLANKNESS and the
>> blankness of EVERY SCHNOOKIEDUPED SUCKER who imagines the
>>
> MSM as
>
>> something other than frontline perps.
>>
>> THEY DIDN'T USE PLANES.
>> They used media hoax. And now you guys expect to go to the hoaxers for
>> relief.
>> I am thinking people are really looking forward to being dead schnookies
>> with their children used as food.
>>
>> THEY DIDN'T USE PLANES.
>> This is a singularly important fact, which is why the TRUTHING
>> NSA/NASA/Urantia setup crew has you brainwashed into thinking it doesn't
>> matter whether they used arabs or newsbunnies to strike at the heart of
>> America.
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:50:35 +0100 (MET)
From: "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@gmx.li>
Subject: Oddly old PopMech 9/11 article back in google news
...this is the second time in the last few days, that google news
indexed a 1 year old article as "new".
I don't buy in a glitch, so it must be on purpose.
Possibly to combine 'forces' with the MAXIM article,
whatever bizarre that must sound like here... :(
http://news.google.com/nwshp?q=9/11&ie=UTF-8
9/11: Debunking The Myths
Popular Mechanics - 6 hours ago
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html&cid=0
...remember,
google is NSA + NASA + CSIS (=Chinese Secret Intelligence Service) :)
Spooks on board at Google
http://www.google-watch.org/jobad.html
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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:58:43 -0000
From: "Rob" <robertjcash@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Griffin on Air America
Working fine for me now. Must've been on my end.
--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
wrote:
>
> > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> > Von: "Rob" <robertjcash@...>
> > An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Griffin on Air America
> > Datum: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:25:53 -0000
>
> http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
> should work. up at 10 PM....
>
>
> > I get a "Page Not Found (404 Error)" from that link Nico.
> >
> > [:(]
> >
> > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ...whatever that means, i'm still skeptical of Air America.
> > > I'm just passing this around for a possible analysis of this show.
> > >
> > > "...David Ray Griffin will be on the Mike Malloy show tonight at 10
> > PM. You
> > > can listen to it live online by going to
> > > http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen.
> > >
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