Sunday, February 12, 2006

[911InsideJobbers] Re: [Fwd: Fw: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future conference in Chicago,

Nice list of gatekeepers and 'gov't negligence' limited hangout artists, somebody must be getting worried, else why the concentration of "9/11 Truthlings"?

By having so many 'Illuminaries' of the '9/11 Truth Movement' together  at this event points to the fact that are losing their tenacious grasp over the public with their 'incompetence theory', so now they going to use the 'Faux News' method, getting as many talking heads repeating the same lines and most that hear it will believe that it must be true.

Personally, I find this encouraging. Time to start rattling the cage just a little harder. :)

BTW, does anyone have Aaron Brown's contact info?

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, greg nixon <nxngrg@...> wrote:
>
> Oh god is this ripe for flushing and a spray of aerosol. That got Tarpley in their ranks
> now as a calculated wedge between Nico (yet they do not highlight his book at the truth.org site)
>
> Let's put on an event DOWNTOWN during same time frame!
>
> Rosalee Grable webfairy@... wrote:
> Finally there's a dates set.
> It's the whole creepy Urantia gang.
> I notice there's no "Scholars for Truth" on the bill either.
> Gratefully they are not really coming to Chicago, but to a generic suburban hotel.
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: Gabriel Day
> To: tomtvedtenmd@...
> Cc: Rick Siegel
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:44 AM
> Subject: 9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future conference in Chicago, IL June 2-4th
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> Upcoming International Conference sponsored by www.911truth.org
>
> 9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future
> Chicago, IL June 2-4th
> An education and strategy conference that will move beyond past 9/11
> events with a focus on strategy: How can the 9/11 truth movement win?
>
> For updates stay tuned to www.911truth.org and www.mujca.com
>
> and sign up for action alerts at http://www.911truth.org/users.php?mode=new
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> and please help with 9/11 truth grassroots networking project at http://www.911truth.org/Grassroots_Organizer_Page.htm we still need more contacts in many states, particularly
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> P.S. Thanks to the continuing effort of local folks in Chicago who have helped secure our location the Embassy Suites Hotel Chicago O'Hare - See link below for floor plan for meeting rooms and capacity figures, individual and when combined, and also you can take a photo tour but hotel was recently redecorated.)
> http://embassysuites.hilton.com/en/es/hotels/floorplans.jhtml?ctyhocn=CHIRMES
>
> Also note that the Midwest Social Forum will be July 6-9th in Milwaukee, WI http://www.mwsocialforum.org/ - model for conference registration - the Midwest Social Forum
>
> and for ideas the last time we gathered in July of 2005 see http://www.truthemergency.us which had the following
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> Organizing Committee Members:
> David Kubiak
> Janice Matthews
> Gabriel Day
> Jan Hoyer
> Les Jameison
> David Slesinger
> Charles Key
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> Post Event Committee Additions:
> Jim Hoffman
> Reed Simpson
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> Rally Speakers:
> Nafeez Ahmed
> Robert Bowman
> David Ray Griffin
> Charles Key
> Ray McGovern
> Dorothy Mackey
> Sunny Miller
> Gael Murphy
> Jenna Orkin
> Peter Phillips
> Morgan Reynolds
> Peter Dale Scott
> Paul Thompson
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> Michael Badnarik
> Kevin Barrett
> Chris Emery
> Bonnie Faulkner
> Joe Friendly
> Tonya Gonzalez
> Jim Hoffman
> Barb Honegger
> Tito Howard
> hummux
> Charles Key
> Nicholas Levis
> Sunny Miller
> Leuren Moret
> Jenna Orkin
> Don Paul
> Peter Phillips
> Brian Sacks
> Dave Slesinger
> Merlin Staring
> Robert Stone
> Webster Tarpley
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> Ian Woods
> Barrie Zwicker
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Re: [911InsideJobbers] [Fwd: Fw: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future conference in Chicago, IL June 2-4th]

Oh god is this ripe for flushing and a spray of aerosol. That got Tarpley in their ranks
now as a calculated wedge between Nico (yet they do not highlight his book at the truth.org site)
 
Let's put on an event DOWNTOWN during same time frame!

Rosalee Grable <webfairy@thewebfairy.com> wrote:
Finally there's a dates set.
It's the whole creepy Urantia gang.
I notice there's no "Scholars for Truth" on the bill either.
Gratefully they are not really coming to Chicago, but to a generic suburban hotel.

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:44 AM
Subject: 9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future conference in Chicago, IL June 2-4th

Upcoming International Conference sponsored by www.911truth.org

9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future
              Chicago, IL June 2-4th
An education and strategy conference that will move beyond past 9/11
events with a focus on strategy: How can the 9/11 truth movement win? 
 
For updates stay tuned to www.911truth.org and www.mujca.com 
 
  and sign up for action alerts at http://www.911truth.org/users.php?mode=new
 
  and please help with 9/11 truth grassroots networking project   at http://www.911truth.org/Grassroots_Organizer_Page.htm we still need more contacts in many states, particularly
 
  P.S. Thanks to the continuing effort of local folks in Chicago who have helped secure our location the Embassy Suites Hotel Chicago O'Hare - See link below for floor plan for meeting rooms and capacity figures, individual and when combined, and also you can take a photo tour but hotel was recently redecorated.)
 
  Also note that the Midwest Social Forum will be July 6-9th in Milwaukee, WI  http://www.mwsocialforum.org/ - model for conference registration - the Midwest Social Forum
 
and for ideas the last time we gathered in July of 2005 see  http://www.truthemergency.us which had the following
 
Organizing Committee Members:
David Kubiak
Janice Matthews
Gabriel Day
Jan Hoyer
Les Jameison
David Slesinger
Charles Key

Post Event Committee Additions:
Jim Hoffman
Reed Simpson
 
Rally Speakers:
Nafeez Ahmed
Robert Bowman
David Ray Griffin
Charles Key
Ray McGovern
Dorothy Mackey
Sunny Miller
Gael Murphy
Jenna Orkin
Peter Phillips
Morgan Reynolds
Peter Dale Scott
Paul Thompson
 
Michael Badnarik
Kevin Barrett
Chris Emery
Bonnie Faulkner
Joe Friendly
Tonya Gonzalez
Jim Hoffman
Barb Honegger
Tito Howard
hummux
Charles Key
Nicholas Levis
Sunny Miller
Leuren Moret
Jenna Orkin
Don Paul
Peter Phillips
Brian Sacks
Dave Slesinger
Merlin Staring
Robert Stone
Webster Tarpley
Paul Thompson
Ian Woods
Barrie Zwicker
 


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[911InsideJobbers] Moussaoui Trial: Negligence vs. Prior Knowledge

...i think, the current Moussaoui trial inspired Bush's speech writers for
the relaunch propaganda of an alleged 2002 LA terror plot, last week.

The Problem is, all involved plotline idiots had been under radar years
before 9/11...
If the 9/11 family members would be not that stupid, corrupt or manipulated,
they would realize what's going on, but it's just hopeless...

Moussaoui Defense Reveals Details of Pre-9/11 Knowledge
WJLA - 5 hours ago
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0206/302031.html&cid=1104224656
McLean, VA (AP) - Lawyers for Zacarias Moussaoui say that US government
agents knew Moussaoui was an agent of Osama bin Laden but still failed to
aggressively investigate their
client...

http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/stories/ny-woqaid114622603feb11,0,84057.story?coll=ny-news-print
Suspect: I quit plot after 9/11
February 11, 2006

A man recruited by al-Qaida to pilot a plane in a second wave of Sept.
11-style attacks on the United States pulled out after seeing the carnage of
the 2001 assaults, Southeast Asian officials said Friday. The attacks were
never carried out...

...Security officials and terrorism experts in Southeast Asia on Friday said
Malaysian engineer Zaini Zakaria was among three men al-Qaida was preparing
to take part in an attack on the West Coast....

...Zaini, 38, has been detained without trial under the Internal Security
Act in Malaysia since he surrendered in December 2002. The other men
implicated in the plan were Zacarias Moussaoui, who is in U.S. custody, and
Abderraouf Jdey, who remains at large with a $5 million U.S. bounty on his
head.

Two Malaysian security officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said
Zaini was the only suspect in the alleged plot known to be in Malaysian
custody.

Zaini traveled to al-Qaida camps in Afghanistan in 1999 and met senior
figures in the terrorist group, including Indonesian Riduan Isamuddin, or
Hambali, one of the Malaysian security officials told The Associated Press.
After returning to Malaysia that year, Zaini enrolled in a flight school and
obtained a license to fly a small plane. He then began making inquiries in
Australia about getting a license to fly a jet, the official said...

In 2003, the United States ordered a freeze on Zaini's financial assets and
those of several other suspects, Saiful said.

http://www.trackingthethreat.com/zsearch/ent.jsp?entId=1577
Zaini Zakaria Linked to Bali Nightclub Bombings - 2002

- Identifed as linked to the Bali bombings
- DOB 16 Jun 1967; alt. DOB 16 May 1967
- POB Kelantan, Malaysia
- Passport No. A11457974 (Malaysia)
- Last know address: A-1-8 Pangsapuri Sri Tanjung, Jalan Sky BS2, Bukit
Sentosa Rawang, Selangor 48300 West Malaysia

Prime Minister Helen Clark today released the names of 20 people designated
as terrorists with connections to the group behind the Bali
bombings.
http://www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp?id=8031&cid=15&cname=Technology

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:rShF0pzoekQJ:www.faqs.org/docs/911/911Report-548.html+Zaini+Zakaria&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5

Faruq al Tunisi (a Canadian passport holder, discussed earlier as a
candidate hijacker) and Zaini Zakaria, a.k.a. Mussa (a Jemaah Islamiah
member who worked in Hambali's Malaysia stronghold and was directed by Atef
to enroll in flight training sometime in 2000, according to KSM).
Intelligence report, interrogation of KSM, July 8, 2003;
Inte

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:0pv8NONpEmEJ:hrw.org/reports/2005/malaysia0905/4.htm+Zaini+Zakaria&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6

.....The detainees’ lawyers, who saw their clients on December 28, told
Human Rights Watch of several assaults. Zaini Zakaria, in detention since
2002, from cell block T2B, reportedly was handcuffed and hit on the back of
his head with a metal rod by a guard..

Mohammed Atta - Slips Under Radar of 6 Countries?
By
Ewing2001
http://groups.globalfreepress.com/article.pl?sid=03/09/29/0347236&mode=thread
http://team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.1704

5)Spain...

...According to the CIA, Terror Suspect Riduan Isamuddin, also known as
Hambali, ordered one of his deputies to host meetings between two eventual
Sept. 11 hijackers, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, and another
high-ranking al-Qaeda figure, at his apartment in Malaysia in January 2000.

The same two suspects were on the watch list of the CIA. According to DER
STERN, agents of 8 CIA-offices in Asia, observed the famous "Malaysia
Meeting" on January 8th, 2001.which resulted in him receiving twenty
stitches.41 ...

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[911InsideJobbers] Re: [Fwd: Fw: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future conference in Chicago,

Oh what could be more lovely than the "Embassy Suites Hotel Chicago
O'Hare"??

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
wrote:
>
> Finally there's a dates set.
> It's the whole creepy Urantia gang.
> I notice there's no "Scholars for Truth" on the bill either.
> Gratefully they are not really coming to Chicago, but to a generic
> suburban hotel.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gabriel Day <mailto:sharethetruth911@...>
> *To:* tomtvedtenmd@... <mailto:tomtvedtenmd@...>
> *Cc:* Rick Siegel <mailto:rick@...>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:44 AM
> *Subject:* 9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future conference
> in Chicago, IL June 2-4th
>
> Upcoming International Conference sponsored by www.911truth.org
> <http://www.911truth.org>
>
> *9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future*
> * Chicago, IL June 2-4th
> *An education and strategy conference that will move beyond past 9/11
> events with a focus on strategy: How can the 9/11 truth movement win?
>
> For updates stay tuned to www.911truth.org <http://www.911truth.org>
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> www.mujca.com
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> more contacts in many states, particularly
>
> P.S. Thanks to the continuing effort of local folks in Chicago who
> have helped secure our location the Embassy Suites Hotel Chicago O'Hare
> - See link below for floor plan for meeting rooms and capacity figures,
> individual and when combined, and also you can take a photo tour but
> hotel was recently redecorated.)
>
http://embassysuites.hilton.com/en/es/hotels/floorplans.jhtml?ctyhocn=CHIRMES

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>
>
> Also note that the Midwest Social Forum will be July 6-9th in
> Milwaukee, WI http://www.mwsocialforum.org/ - model for conference
> registration - the Midwest Social Forum
>
> and for ideas the last time we gathered in July of 2005 see
> http://www.truthemergency.us <http://www.truthemergency.us/> which had
> the following
>
> *Organizing Committee Members:
> *David Kubiak
> Janice Matthews
> Gabriel Day
> Jan Hoyer
> Les Jameison
> David Slesinger
> Charles Key
>
> *Post Event Committee Additions:*
> Jim Hoffman
> Reed Simpson
>
> *_Rally Speakers:_*
> Nafeez Ahmed
> Robert Bowman
> David Ray Griffin
> Charles Key
> Ray McGovern
> Dorothy Mackey
> Sunny Miller
> Gael Murphy
> Jenna Orkin
> Peter Phillips
> Morgan Reynolds
> Peter Dale Scott
> Paul Thompson
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> <http://www.truthemergency.us/pages/dcWorkshops1.html>
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> Kevin Barrett
> Chris Emery
> Bonnie Faulkner
> Joe Friendly
> Tonya Gonzalez
> Jim Hoffman
> Barb Honegger
> Tito Howard
> hummux
> Charles Key
> Nicholas Levis
> Sunny Miller
> Leuren Moret
> Jenna Orkin
> Don Paul
> Peter Phillips
> Brian Sacks
> Dave Slesinger
> Merlin Staring
> Robert Stone
> Webster Tarpley
> Paul Thompson
> Ian Woods
> Barrie Zwicker
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[911InsideJobbers] [Fwd: Fw: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future conference in Chicago, IL June 2-4th]

Finally there's a dates set.
It's the whole creepy Urantia gang.
I notice there's no "Scholars for Truth" on the bill either.
Gratefully they are not really coming to Chicago, but to a generic suburban hotel.

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 1:44 AM
Subject: 9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future conference in Chicago, IL June 2-4th

Upcoming International Conference sponsored by www.911truth.org

9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future
              Chicago, IL June 2-4th
An education and strategy conference that will move beyond past 9/11
events with a focus on strategy: How can the 9/11 truth movement win? 
 
For updates stay tuned to www.911truth.org and www.mujca.com 
 
  and sign up for action alerts at http://www.911truth.org/users.php?mode=new
 
  and please help with 9/11 truth grassroots networking project   at http://www.911truth.org/Grassroots_Organizer_Page.htm we still need more contacts in many states, particularly
 
  P.S. Thanks to the continuing effort of local folks in Chicago who have helped secure our location the Embassy Suites Hotel Chicago O'Hare - See link below for floor plan for meeting rooms and capacity figures, individual and when combined, and also you can take a photo tour but hotel was recently redecorated.)
 
  Also note that the Midwest Social Forum will be July 6-9th in Milwaukee, WI  http://www.mwsocialforum.org/ - model for conference registration - the Midwest Social Forum
 
and for ideas the last time we gathered in July of 2005 see  http://www.truthemergency.us which had the following
 
Organizing Committee Members:
David Kubiak
Janice Matthews
Gabriel Day
Jan Hoyer
Les Jameison
David Slesinger
Charles Key

Post Event Committee Additions:
Jim Hoffman
Reed Simpson
 
Rally Speakers:
Nafeez Ahmed
Robert Bowman
David Ray Griffin
Charles Key
Ray McGovern
Dorothy Mackey
Sunny Miller
Gael Murphy
Jenna Orkin
Peter Phillips
Morgan Reynolds
Peter Dale Scott
Paul Thompson
 
Michael Badnarik
Kevin Barrett
Chris Emery
Bonnie Faulkner
Joe Friendly
Tonya Gonzalez
Jim Hoffman
Barb Honegger
Tito Howard
hummux
Charles Key
Nicholas Levis
Sunny Miller
Leuren Moret
Jenna Orkin
Don Paul
Peter Phillips
Brian Sacks
Dave Slesinger
Merlin Staring
Robert Stone
Webster Tarpley
Paul Thompson
Ian Woods
Barrie Zwicker
 


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Life's illusions ....


Life's illusions ....
Originally uploaded by Lynn Morag.

TBO.com: AP United States

TBO.com: AP United States

U.S. agents knew in August 2001 that Zacarias Moussaoui was an acolyte of Osama bin Laden and had traveled to Afghanistan, but they still failed to aggressively investigate, Moussaoui's defense lawyers said in a closed hearing.

Blogger Thoughts: What a confused situation.....

SV: [Fwd: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Controlled Demolition Limited Hangout?]

>>>instead of having a 747 front bulge like the TV version.<<<

That bulge seems to be the starboard engine, not part of the cockpit.
The angle of the plane is just slightly different between the two
videos (your old one and the new one Perp found)

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
wrote:
>
> It's a cartoon. It's always been a cartoon. In this version the timing
> is off.
> The plane in this version is more representative of a 767 instead of
> having a 747 front bulge like the TV version.
> The Krash Kartoon on the CBS What WE Saw DVD doesn't hippityhop
anymore,
> so it must have been re-rendered.
> This one doesn't hippityhop either.
> Maybe this one is an outtake. I'll have to look at that DVD again to
see
> if they had cleaned up the "plane" like the one shown in this clip.
> This one has better shading.
> http://thewebfairy.com/911/krash/krashkartoon2.jpg
>
> alexldent wrote:
> > ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME HERE??????
> >
> > THE EXPLOSION STARTS BEFORE THE PLANE ARRIVES!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > WHAT THE @$#@^%!?
> >
> >
> > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> wow. that is awesome.
> >> http://thewebfairy.com/911/krash/
> >> It's at the top of the page now.
> >> Who ever made this version did a better job. The "plane" does not
have
> >> the head bulge or fishtail in this version.
> >> If the timing were better, it would have been a much better fake
than
> >> the one they went with.
> >>
> >>
> >> perpetualynquisitive wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just tossing this into the salad bowl. This a clip that I ran
across
> >>> about 2 years or so ago and then forgot that I had it. It is
> >>>
> > obviously
> >
> >>> forged, as with all shots showing a 'plane'.
> >>>
> >>> Someone went through some major work on this clip and then buried
> >>>
> > this
> >
> >>> clip on an obscure website (looking through my archives to see
if can
> >>> backtrack exactly where I found it).
> >>>
> >>> Clip is here <http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FNNLPCG0> (close the
> >>> little ad box and the download button will be visible)
> >>>
> >>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "perpetualynquisitive"
> >>> <perpetualynquisitive@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Nico, I have been going back over all the CNN coverage with
> >>>>
> > Brown, every
> >
> >>>> video with him is from that exact same angle.
> >>>>
> >>>> Note the 'impact' of the second hit is filmed at the same angle
> >>>>
> > as his
> >
> >>>> entire broadcast, as seen in the clip that I linked to, ergo same
> >>>> camera, it is just a zoom in that excludes him from our view.
> >>>>
> >>>> The flash of light shows that he is obviously not outside on a
> >>>>
> > roof, he
> >
> >>>> is inside a studio standing in front a screen.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have seen the same effect many times, as a friend of my mine's
> >>>>
> > sons
> >
> >>>> have a projector T.V. in their garage so that they can play Xbox
> >>>>
> > games
> >
> >>>> with 6 foot high characters.
> >>>>
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[911InsideJobbers] Let's review the bidding :;-)

Been toying with nico's idea of hand-held from points nearby every since he mentioned it...........but I think we'd do well to re-examine the possibilities with some stuff we've been sorta overlooking.  Namely speed and exhaust trails.....
 
For instance, the various speeds of the vehicle that were found--all outside the mfr's envelope.  To exceed that by as much as 100mph at sea level is impossible.  There would be such banging, vibrations, violent shaking--and think how it would look to the world if a wing fell off before it even got to the towers!  It would be beyond embarrassment.   
 
So either the speeds are incorrect (thru missing frames) , or the aircraft ID is. Or it is entirely the work of fiction.
 
Second thing that's being overlooked I think, is the exhaust.  Planes with jet fuel don't leave exhaust trails except in cold temps, but things that burn rocket fuel do leave exhaust trails at sea level...
 
I'm fond of this one--only one not shot against a clear sky.. http://thewebfairy.com/911/squarecrash/squarecrash-dk.htm  It's the right size (small) but does it leave an exhaust trail?  Looks like a rapid descent.  Where is it coming from?
 
 
http://thewebfairy.com/911/krash/   The background doesn't seem right on PI's shot--It doesn't match up on the right and left side of the tower.


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Many Guantanamo Detainees Not Tied to 'Hostile Acts'

Many Guantanamo Detainees Not Tied to 'Hostile Acts'

Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Why Electromagnetic Weaponry & Not Planted Charges?

So what material was the antenna made of?
These pictures tell you what caused the towers to collapse.
Ask any physics professor. Conventional demolition, sheesh. 
Funny thing is many people know what brought the towers down. These guys, in the videos who know their metals know or should suspect. They won't say because they don't believe anything that would do that exists.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:02 AM
Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Why Electromagnetic Weaponry & Not Planted Charges?

Ok.  What I meant was why not just use, super powerful explosives? 
Conventional, but more powerful than normal, mini nukes even?  Seems
simple enough to me.

I just would not advise using any limited opportunity we have before
the press to talk about secret invisible microwave beams.  That
would be suicide and a definite PR victory for the September
criminals.  We need to be pushing "explosives cremating Americans
alive" and not these other issues like did a plane hit the tower or
not, or was there a pod on it etc.  Good issues to discuss and
investigate amongst ourselves (it definately needs to be done), BUT
SUICIDAL ISSUES to bring up in front of the press.  No press is
better than that kind of press.


--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable
<webfairy@...> wrote:
>
> I say they used everything but the kitchen sink, and maybe that
too.
> It was like the Kennedy assasination, when they had every single
> hit-team on the planet in Dallas that day.
> It was an excuse to keep people arguing this one or that one for
40
> years when the answer was "All of the Above."
>
> Every sentence that begins with "all of us know' needs to be
checked for
> accuracy.
>
> Nothing happens or is evident that the "collapse" in any way
mimics
> pancaking.
> Debris was thrown upward
> http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/video%20archive/projectile.avi
> 7 fell FASTER THAN FREEFALL THRU AIR
> http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/video%
20archive/911eyewitness_wtc7.wmv
>
> No "conventional" explosive could create the effects found in my
> h-effect directory.
> These are from the History Channel program "Relics from the Rubble"
> http://thewebfairy.com/911/h-effect
>
> "SIMPLE TASK" of making these massive buildings, designed to
withstand
> earthquakes and jet crashes turn to dust??
> http://thewebfairy.com/911/du1
> we knew more in 2003 than you know now.
> SIMPLE TASK???  Simple task. Cripes.
> In your imagination making two of the largest buildings in New
York
> crumple straight down into their own footprint was a "simple task."
>
> It is the direct evidence from video of the crime scene
>
>
> inphoman911 wrote:
> > All of us know that the controlled demolition of the Twin towers
was
> > designed to mimic a pancake theory collapse resulting from the
point
> > of impact of jetliners.  WTC7 was a conventional demolition
because
> > there was no jetliner crash to simulate.
> >
> >
> > Question #1. Why wouldn't the desigerns of the twin tower
demolition
> > use pre planted charges, just like they did in the case of WTC7
and
> > other conventional bottom 1st demolitions?  Why do you think
they
> > would want to use electromagnetic weaponry for the simple task
of
> > demolishing the twin towers?
> >
> >
> > Question #2.  Why was Firefighter, other 1st responder as well
as live
> > broadcast civillian eyewitness testimony consistent with
controlled
> > demolition resulting from conventional planted charges?  IOW,
why
> > would electromagnetic weaponry result in the "explosions" so
many
> > witnessed?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group: Blog Post about Michael B. Green

What I've proposed so far is as far as I'd like to go.
So far, so good. Factually it is correct. Or at least the facts haven't been proven wrong. The basic facts are the official story is purely a domestic issue - hijacked internal flights.NORAD not listening and going into Cold War mode saying they were [only] geared up for an external threat. 
 
Was there a diversion out at sea? Was an enemy vessel out there below or above the ocean? Who knows. Are NORAD plain stupid and should have been retired off years before? Somehow I don't think so.
 
I agree. Bingo! Everything, including the kitchen sink is being tossed our way to keep us occupied so that we can swirl those waters into an even more muddier mess.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: alexldent
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:59 AM
Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group: Blog Post about Michael B. Green

Okay.  Now-- what are you saying about what the F16s were doing going
out to the ocean?  And are you saying the missiles came from a US Navy
ship or not?

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "ron_winn" <ron_winn@...> wrote:
>
> It's this word elements within that needs a definition. Many are
naming the element within as people in the administration but there
are of course other elements. Religious, political, military,
environmentalists, business & criminal elements.
>
> Not only does the word terrorism need defining but inside job needs
one too. A few have defined what they mean as an inside job. But other
use an inside job to encompass all the above elements which only
infers that that excludes those accused in the official story. It
might help the "movement" if an "inside job" was defined. It might be
more of a selling point if what was put to the people was "al Qaida
didn't do 9/11. How could they when 67(?) times in the past smaller
aircraft have been located in American skies and got themselves a
fighter escort."
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: alexldent
>   To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:39 PM
>   Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group:
Blog Post about Michael B. Green
>
>
>   You are touching on a fascinating idea-- that the navy shot the
missiles that
>   were used on 9/11 and the F16s were sent out to check out what the
navy
>   was doing (?)-- but I really don't follow your overall point.
Maybe the problem
>   is just semantics on what "inside job" means.  What is your
definition of "inside
>   job"?  Mine is simply that some elements of the USG were involved
actively in
>   the attacks.
>
>   --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "ron_winn" <ron_winn@>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > We know that F16's  were sent out to sea which has never really
been
>   explained. In fact it seems such a stupid thing to do. Or else too
obvious 
>   sending them on a wild goose chase as if to get them away from
where they
>   might hinder the "inside job". NORAD say that every defence system
was
>   pointing outwards towards an external threat. What forms of
external threat is
>   there? Well, many speak of missiles. Missiles have to be lauched from
>   somewhere. Also why was the US Navy made ready soon after 9/11 was
all
>   but over? What was the Navy going to do that the airforce couldn't
and
>   apparently didn't on the day? The threats, we are told were purely
domestic
>   flights. The atc's, the FAA and all other agencies were
concentrating of
>   domestic flights. So NORAD sends out the F16's out to sea [and
Lord knows
>   where the F15's got to] sounds very stupid, right. Do you think
the pilots would
>   have been so silent if they knew they had been sent on a fools'
errand?  
>   >
>   > IMO F16's were not sent on a wild goose chase and the Navy
wasn't made
>   ready for a "domestic" inside job that was all but over. You can
speak of
>   missiles but they had to come in from somewhere. And F16's sent up
must
>   have been sent up with a purpose and that wasn't surely to get
them out of the
>   way. The threat was "in your face" domestic. The military are not
dumb. That
>   fits in too conveniently with the case of negligence that gets the
admin off the
>   hook. You think the airforce F16's would have done a "victory"
flyover at the
>   Pentagon if they had just come back from a wild goose chase.
>   >
>   > You see, it looks too obviously an inside job although that is
not to say
>   assistance had to be obtained from insiders. This goes to the
point and the
>   question - why if it was an purely an inside job wouldn't 767's
from their
>   graveyard in the desert have been used. If they had we wouldn't be
here
>   today engaged in our search for the truth.  
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: alexldent
>   >   To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:04 AM
>   >   Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from
Group: Blog
>   Post about Michael B. Green
>   >
>   >
>   >   >>> I've never been convinced of an inside job although I have
an open
>   >   mind.<<<
>   >
>   >   Wha?????  If it wasn't an inside job, what were they covering up?
>   >
>   >
>   >   --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "ron_winn" <ron_winn@>
>   wrote:
>   >   >
>   >   > Your link doesn't work.
>   >   > Unfortunately the other one does.
>   >   > Interesting statement because if two real 767's or
substitutes were
>   >   in the plan then "11" would have been a scheduled flight. And
so would
>   >   "77". Or both flights would have been reported to be private
charters.
>   >   >
>   >   > Something flew into the north tower and to hastily cover up
what it
>   >   was flight "11" was used.
>   >   >
>   >   > I've never been convinced of an inside job although I have
an open
>   >   mind. So far there is enough to support a hasty cover up. The
Pentagon
>   >   attack being the most speedily concocted one, I believe.
Although 93
>   >   is running a close second.
>   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   >   From: Bill Giltner
>   >   >   To: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
>   >   >   Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:19 PM
>   >   >   Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Request for Critique from
Group: Blog
>   >   Post about Michael B. Green
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   Check out my blog post here:
>   >   >
>   >   > 
>   >   http://bgtruth.blogspot.com/2006/02/we-believe-that-senior-
>   government.HTML
>   >   >
>   >   >   Here's my main point:
>   >   >
>   >   >   Additional Commentary by this Blogger:
>   >   >
>   >   >   Where Dr. Green goes horribly wrong: (is this on purpose?)
>   >   >
>   >   >   "To put matters plainly: any substitute plane would be an
exact
>   >   duplicate of
>   >   >   AA11 or UA175. To do anything else would be inviting
disaster. "
>   >   >
>   >   >   http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/green/loose_change.html
>   >   >
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[911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from Group: Blog Post about Michael B. Green

the ultimate "easter egg" is this video:
http://thewebfairy.com/911/krash/

btw, one can sort of see the plane emerge intact in this video, before
it explodes:
http://thewebfairy.com/911/saltergate/salterplane2.htm

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Nico Haupt" <nicohaupt@...>
wrote:
>
> > --- Urspr�ngliche Nachricht ---
> > Von: Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
> > An: 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Request for Critique from
Group: Blog
> > Post about Michael B. Green
> > Datum: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:09:30 -0600
> >
>
>
> Rosalee,
> if this is the final conclusion, then here a simple question.
> In case, virtual cockpit is one and the same (in and exit,
> of this 2nd hit clip), there must be ZERO damage on the top and
basically
> look exactly the same.
>
> If we had extreme closeups from entry and exit of the "virtual
cockpit", we
> could prove same no damage tops. Am i right? I think, that was also
my idea,
> when i put Ickes' cockpit exit into my slideshow.
>
> We have to find more of these 'easter eggs' to convince everyone...
>
>
> >>>We are saying that it is NOT a "missile popping out" but is the
flight
> simulator butterplane cartoon

emerging after passing effortlessly
> through the building.
> http://thewebfairy.com/911/butterplanes
> shows how the animations pop in one side and out the other.
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Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 March for 9/11 Truth NYC: The Tipping Point?

BTW Spitzer is reported to have said on 9/11 something about the fall of the Roman Empire which I thought was a strange thing to think let alone speak for an American. 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 1:44 AM
Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Re: 2/20 March for 9/11 Truth NYC: The Tipping Point?

We need creative ideas to get major media attention on this march. 
The media loves a catfight.  Maybe pitching the march the right way
to the press is the key.

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Nixon" <nxngrg@...>
wrote:
>
> http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=10254
>
> 2/20 March for 9/11 Truth NYC: The Tipping Point?     
>
> Malcom Gladwell in his new book:Tipping Point: How Little Things
Can
> Make a Big Difference believes "small actions can spark social
> epidemics." I am counting on it. Ladies and gentlemen we need  an
> epidemic of epic proportions to spread  - an awareness of the
> reality of what happened on 9/11(A) To use the words of
> Chossudovsky `The world is at the most serious crossroads in
modern
> history."(B)The fraudulent "War on Terror" threatens the very
future
> of humanity.
>
> This coming February 20th in New York City offers a chance for
> citizens action's to spark this
> social epidemic. 9/11 activists and concerned citizens will
confront
> media figures keeping 9/11 truth under wraps. We will confront two
> public figures seeking higher office on the back of 9/11. One is
> former New York City Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, the man mistakenly
> portrayed as a hero of 9/11, when in fact, he is a perpetrator of
> the crime. The other, the Attorney General Elliot Spitzer; running
> for Governor on a record that has allowed this monumental act of
> False Flag Terror to go unaccounted for in his district.  We will
> ask for Spitzer to resign, for Giuliani to be placed under arrest.
>
> The 9/11 truth movement is now over four years old. There have
been
> many false starts, many false hope campaigns and enough suffering
to
> go around for everyone. The moment in history for action is
closing,
> the machinery of war and the drumbeats for new conquests are now
> deafening.It is our moment to stave off a near certain
catastrophe.
> 9/11 truth is about more than justice for the past, it is about
what
> kind of world we want for our future.
>
> Let us recall,that a lone drag queen threw a punch at Stonewall
> thirty years ago and launched the Gay Rights revolution. A black
> woman refused to go and sit at the back of the bus and began the
> Civil rights Movement.. Can a letter and a warrant from the people
> bring down the giant criminal enterprise that America has become?
Do
> we want to leave our fate to fate. The evil that destroyed those
> majestic towers in New York did not come from a cave in
Afghanistan,
> it came from a dying militaristic Anglo empire. The book of
> fate,despite what Shakespeare may have thought is not written for
> us, it is ours to be written.
>
> Please all come to Ground Zero in lower Manhattan on February 20th
> (c)to meet and to march to restore  sanity to our teetering world.
> Please all come to Ground Zero and make your voices heard that we
> know what happened on 9/11 and the lives of 2,986 Americans and
the
> nameless thousands killed in the illegal wars abroad will not go
> unaccounted for. Please all come together to make our small
> symbolical action a chance for the truth to be heard . let us hope
> the tipping point will be here and now for an end to this frame-up
> on humanity, falsely named of "the war on terror"This is a war on
> freedom. Make Your voice heard in New York on 2/20, your future
> depends on it.
>
> A.http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/132208/index.php
>
> B. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?
> context=viewArticle&code=CHO20051221&articleId=1576
>
>
> C.http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/132209/index.php
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Re: [911InsideJobbers] Another 9/11 WTC Planted Witness

There is a "Lerner" mentioned in a document shown in the Loose Change film. But Lerner is a common name in the States. This guy is very well dressed.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Another 9/11 WTC Planted Witness

Google Video sure is cool!!

This one shows window washers going about their normal duties on a
building in front of the trade centers.
Somebody better than me at geography will have to tell which building
this is.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-926819146692237326


Bill Giltner wrote:
> He says his name is Eric Lerner (Learner?).
> I could not find a matching pic or other info with google.

> See video here:
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4266798521868931180&q=wtc
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