Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Controlled Demolition Limited Hangout?

oh.
I getcha.
You want the whole lowdown.
Cool. Good to get this stuff together for flack to come.

Hoffman's article grexxing and calling it all "personal attack" is a
good place to start.
http://911research.wtc7.net/re911/adhominem.html
We never accused him of setting up Woody to be murdered. Did he make
that up, or are there more people with serious charges about him?

http://www.911review.org/Wiki/911Review.Com.shtml

Hoffman joined various 9/11 mailing lists under a number of different
emails and personae, claiming at various times to be an artist, a
software entrepreneur, and at the the SPINE list of physics911.org,
which says it's credentials based, he is listed as a physician. In fact,
we understand that his degree is in Fine Arts, which may explain his
creative approach to the laws of chemistry and physics.

If fact, based on a careful study of our website's logs, Jim Hoffman's
real job was found to be as a [WWW]computer engineer
<http://www.msri.org/people/staff/jim/index.html> for a "research
institute" at one of the US Government's most important Laboritories:
Lawrence Berkeley Labs, and his real email is mailto:jim@msri.org . The
[WWW] Mathematical Sciences Research Institute <http://www.msri.org/>has
[WWW] amongst its sponsors
<http://www.msri.org/governance/sponsors/govsponsors.html>:

*
The National Security Agency
*
The Office of Naval Research, which acts as the research arm of
the Office of Naval Intelligence.
*
The Department of Energy, manager of the US nuclear laboritories
such as Lawrence Berkeley and Livermore.

Naive members of the "9/11 Truth" community had accepted Hoffman's
descriptions of himself as an artist with activist credentials at face
value, but when confronted with the disclosure of his real occupation
and employers, he became indignant ( [WWW] rule 2
<http://www.911review.org/Wiki/DisinformationRule2.shtml>), and vanished
from the mailing list ( [WWW]rule 25
<http://www.911review.org/Wiki/DisinformationRule25.shtml>).

Jim Hoffman's specialty on 9/11 is long involved technical papers that
are too complex to for most people to follow ( [WWW]rule 2
<http://www.911review.org/Wiki/DisinformationRule2.shtml> ). For
example, his Dust Clouds paper, makes no sense at all. The use of the
ideal gas law for the expansion of the dust clouds is absurd: the ideal
gas law is a Carnot Cycle / equilibrium thermodynamics calculation. It's
an absurdity to do a calculation of the mean of the Boltzmann
distribution of kinetic energy at thermodynamic equilibrium on a mixture
of concrete and office workers that has been blasted out horizontally
almost the width of the TwinTowers
<http://www.911review.org/Wiki/TwinTowers.shtml> . Not only it is not
equilibrium, it's not a gas - it's a mixture. There's no evidence the
dust clouds were heated to hundreds of degrees centigrade, and even if
you had the enthalpy to heat it, you could not thermally heat it in the
time allowed because of the kinetics ([WWW] rule 13
<http://www.911review.org/Wiki/DisinformationRule13.shtml>).

******************
Hoffman the Spook
http://www.911closeup.com/index.shtml?ID=78

Hoffman the Plagerist
http://www.911closeup.com/index.shtml?ID=74

lexldent wrote:
> Okay... but how do we know that Hoffman is taking cues from the NSA? What
> is the most damning thing? That he thinks flight 77 hit the Pentagon? These
> connections of Hoffman to the NSA are not very convincing in of themselves.
> Lots of scietific institutes get money from different federal agencies. How do
> we know Jack Hoffman is Jim Hoffman's uncle? I can't find anything on the
> web...
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
> wrote:
>
>> This is from Nico:
>>
>> Hoffman is formerly associated with an NSA sponsored institute and via
>> his uncle Jack Hoffman to yet another NASA- and NSA contractor Veridian:
>> Noone else than Neil Armstrong (his sister is married to Jack), himself
>> tied to "Project Trailblazer".
>>
>> Trailblazer was contracted via NRO and NSA since 1998 and was partly
>> developed by BTG Inc. and BoozAllen Hamilton in the very same pentagon
>> wedge, which was officially attacked on sep11th.
>>
>> Trailblazer was recently also exposed in mainstream media = MSM,
>>
> however
>
>> without reference to pre-9/11 contracts.
>>
>>
>> alexldent wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone help me-- what is the evidence that is Hoffman is
>>>
> connected to
>
>>> the NSA again? Not that I doubt it so much but rather I would like to show
>>>
> it to
>
>>> other people. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Total Information <
>>>
> totalinfo@>
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I just mentioned they sent out their press release on PRWeb. PRWeb is
>>>>
> an
>
>>>> open system, anyone with a few hundred bucks can use it. Many
>>>>
> university
>
>>>> departments use it to announce a new study, etc.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/3/06, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Outed. as in exposed against his will?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am extremely suspicious of Professor Jones, under any circumstance.
>>>>> Exposed like the "truth movement" did to Underwriter Lab's Ryan would
>>>>> not surprise me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jones is one who quotes NSA's Jim Hoffman like some demigod, and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> thought
>>>
>>>
>>>>> that the vanishment of the second hit cartoon looks "like he'd expect."
>>>>> Sneer. He's supposed to be a physics professor and does not notice
>>>>> Gravity and Conservation of Energy are being violated ?
>>>>>
>>>>> What they're good at is getting publicity.
>>>>> PR. I don't understand how Total figured out that they are using
>>>>> professional PR.
>>>>> It's an important fact.
>>>>> Professional PR is at the tippy-top of my perp list. I think "93 heroes"
>>>>> Beamer and Bingham were professional PR guys who wrote
>>>>>
> themselves
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> into
>>>
>>>
>>>>> the plot.
>>>>> WE determined that their memorial websites are handled by gov
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> connected
>>>
>>>
>>>>> PR firms.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> alexldent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it is a limited hangout because:
>>>>>> a) they can say they wired the WTC after the 1993 bombing as a
>>>>>>
> safety
>
>>>>>> precaution and they had to keep this secret so the terrorists wouldn't
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> b) the demolition can always be sold as a preventive measure they
>>>>>>
> had
>
>>>>>> to take to save additionbal lives in lower manhattan
>>>>>> c) if the demolition charges were put in after '93, the demolition
>>>>>> doesn't imply they knew 9/11 was coming or that 9/11 was an inside
>>>>>>
> job
>
>>>>>> d) the demolition, like the putative shootdown of flight 93, is seen
>>>>>> as a reactive measure the govt had to take in response to the
>>>>>> attacks-- a neccessary evil, if you will
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How this will all play out, I don't know. I think the momentum for
>>>>>> exposing the demolition is building-- particularly after Professor
>>>>>> Jones' latest talk-- and he has outed my friend, a professor of
>>>>>> engineering who is convinced the towers were brought down by
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> demolition.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "inphoman911"
>>>>>> <inphoman911@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I honestly don't see how they could get away with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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[911InsideJobbers] Re: Controlled Demolition Limited Hangout?

Okay... but how do we know that Hoffman is taking cues from the NSA? What
is the most damning thing? That he thinks flight 77 hit the Pentagon? These
connections of Hoffman to the NSA are not very convincing in of themselves.
Lots of scietific institutes get money from different federal agencies. How do
we know Jack Hoffman is Jim Hoffman's uncle? I can't find anything on the
web...

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
wrote:
>
> This is from Nico:
>
> Hoffman is formerly associated with an NSA sponsored institute and via
> his uncle Jack Hoffman to yet another NASA- and NSA contractor Veridian:
> Noone else than Neil Armstrong (his sister is married to Jack), himself
> tied to "Project Trailblazer".
>
> Trailblazer was contracted via NRO and NSA since 1998 and was partly
> developed by BTG Inc. and BoozAllen Hamilton in the very same pentagon
> wedge, which was officially attacked on sep11th.
>
> Trailblazer was recently also exposed in mainstream media = MSM,
however
> without reference to pre-9/11 contracts.
>
>
> alexldent wrote:
> > Can someone help me-- what is the evidence that is Hoffman is
connected to
> > the NSA again? Not that I doubt it so much but rather I would like to show
it to
> > other people. Thanks.
> >
> >
> > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Total Information <
totalinfo@>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I just mentioned they sent out their press release on PRWeb. PRWeb is
an
> >> open system, anyone with a few hundred bucks can use it. Many
university
> >> departments use it to announce a new study, etc.
> >>
> >> On 2/3/06, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Outed. as in exposed against his will?
> >>>
> >>> I am extremely suspicious of Professor Jones, under any circumstance.
> >>> Exposed like the "truth movement" did to Underwriter Lab's Ryan would
> >>> not surprise me.
> >>>
> >>> Jones is one who quotes NSA's Jim Hoffman like some demigod, and
> >>>
> > thought
> >
> >>> that the vanishment of the second hit cartoon looks "like he'd expect."
> >>> Sneer. He's supposed to be a physics professor and does not notice
> >>> Gravity and Conservation of Energy are being violated ?
> >>>
> >>> What they're good at is getting publicity.
> >>> PR. I don't understand how Total figured out that they are using
> >>> professional PR.
> >>> It's an important fact.
> >>> Professional PR is at the tippy-top of my perp list. I think "93 heroes"
> >>> Beamer and Bingham were professional PR guys who wrote
themselves
> >>>
> > into
> >
> >>> the plot.
> >>> WE determined that their memorial websites are handled by gov
> >>>
> > connected
> >
> >>> PR firms.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> alexldent wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think it is a limited hangout because:
> >>>> a) they can say they wired the WTC after the 1993 bombing as a
safety
> >>>> precaution and they had to keep this secret so the terrorists wouldn't
> >>>> know
> >>>> b) the demolition can always be sold as a preventive measure they
had
> >>>> to take to save additionbal lives in lower manhattan
> >>>> c) if the demolition charges were put in after '93, the demolition
> >>>> doesn't imply they knew 9/11 was coming or that 9/11 was an inside
job
> >>>> d) the demolition, like the putative shootdown of flight 93, is seen
> >>>> as a reactive measure the govt had to take in response to the
> >>>> attacks-- a neccessary evil, if you will
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> How this will all play out, I don't know. I think the momentum for
> >>>> exposing the demolition is building-- particularly after Professor
> >>>> Jones' latest talk-- and he has outed my friend, a professor of
> >>>> engineering who is convinced the towers were brought down by
> >>>>
> >>> demolition.
> >>>
> >>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "inphoman911"
> >>>> <inphoman911@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I honestly don't see how they could get away with it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> SPONSORED LINKS
> >>> Government procurement<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=
> >>>
> > Government+procurement&w1=Government+procurement&w2=
> > Government+leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=
> > Government+lease&w5=Government+contract&w6=Government+
money&c=
> > 6&s=154&.sig=S_3-2zVK9QQjTwxHvO91yw> Government
> >
> >>> leasing<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Government+leasing&
> >>>
> > w1=Government+procurement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=
Government+
> > grants+for+women&w4=Government+lease&w5=Government+contract&
w6=
> > Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig=ZAuP_XFQBkNiVw-hPWWJ-Q>
> > Government
> >
> >>> grants for women<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=
Government+
> >>>
> > grants+for+women&w1=Government+procurement&w2=Government+
> > leasing&w3=Government+grants+for+women&w4=Government+lease&
w5=
> > Government+contract&w6=Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig=
> > R7KVvqXEVqN0Ct9WGPhKwg> Government
> >
> >>> lease<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Government+lease&w1=
> >>>
> > Government+procurement&w2=Government+leasing&w3=Government+
> > grants+for+women&w4=Government+lease&w5=Government+contract&
w6=
> > Government+money&c=6&s=154&.sig=FM8lkJddvatAkQNo00D_Cw>
> > Government
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contract&
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Government+
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w6=
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w1=
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Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06

Big sigh.  Can you hear that clear down to MD now???  I knew that Janice was made Exec Director or something like that, but did not know that about Les.  Sigh.  It's really hard to find out when people who "seem" decent really aren't.  But I guess that's exactly what they do on purpose - hire people who "seem" like decent people on the outside, then people like them and they get to stay the leaders of these groups.

 

I'll betcha anything that Webster Tarpley did not get a bad reputation.  I'm sure he probably got a whole lot of new converts and sold lots of books that tell lots of good dirt.

 

Again, Nico, it's more important than ever to find other ways to get lots of people to come to 2/20 in NY.  We've still got 2 weeks to do it.

 

Thanks again,

 

Cath

Nico Haupt <nicohaupt@gmx.li> wrote:

> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Cathy Garger
> An: Nico Haupt , 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06
> Datum: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:47:58 -0800 (PST)

Les was even promoted into the main board of 911truth.org a while ago.

And when i spoke out critically about his membership of US-infiltrated
URANTIA, the very same group organized a dinner for ny911truth.org,
to reach out for new sympathies.

I also believe, they invited Webster on purpose, to provoke a bad reputation
on himself, but that's now his own problem.

nico



> Hi Nico,
>
> Chest falling time. I know. One thing I am is honest, and as the
> eternal optimist I was hoping (against hope) that maybe Les J. was not one
of
> the actual 9/11truthorg. people. I knew that they had done the Tarpley
event
> and thought, Well maybe what I heard is wrong? Maybe they are okay? I
> mean, Tarpley's book is about as MIHOP as it gets... and why in the world
> would he allow Tarpley to speak if he didn't embrace his philosophy.. so
my
> reasoning went.
>
> I had heard not good things about Nic L. but I didn't know that he was
> like the "boss" of the entire group. Wow. How in the world could he make
> up such a lie to say the event was cancelled? I know that Greg never told
> anybody that he'd cancelled it.
>
> Okay. I am so glad you wrote, Nico. We (those who are able to do so)
> must make the event even bigger still. I know that Greg said that even if
> he walks alone it is still going to make his point and still going to be a
> success, however... I do not want one of them there and then go the next
day
> and write that the event was a miserable success without their endorsement
> (ie, telling the world, basically, that the only way to do things is their
> way - or no way at all).
>
> If they truly wanted to get out the truth, they would have been
> contacting Greg to ask how they could help promote his idea.
>
> Talk about a true War On Truth.
>
> Thanks again, Nico. This info is valuable - and hope to see you with
> Greg on 2/20!
>
> Cath
>
> Nico Haupt wrote:
> > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> > Von: Cathy Garger
> > An: 911truthaction@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06
> > Datum: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:47:30 -0800 (PST)
> >
>
> They know. They block and sabotage.
>
> Furthermore Nic Levis claimed in front of 15 witnesses
> on the evening of Webster Tarpley's event, that Greg's Protest March
> was allegedly cancelled.
>
> I was one of these witnesses and accused Levis again as a cointel-pro
> asset
> and therefore left immediately.
>
>
>
> > Don't know if all of you receive this, but it is interesting to note
> that
> > there is no mention yet about the 2/20 action in NYC. Do they perhaps
> not
> > know about it yet? I am checking first as I don't want to re-invent the
> > wheel and contact them about asking them to include the event in their
> next
> > mailing if someone has already asked them to do so.
> >
> > Also, I know that there is a film project going on, and thought that
> > maybe they could use some help with someone in our group who is an
> expert
> on
> > INSIDE JOB brand of truth? I mean, there is only one real truth, and I
> > would imagine that a film about 9/11 truth would need to use the best
> > researchers out there, right?
> >
> > news@list.ny911truth.org wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Here is a reminder of 2 events this week. As I'm writing, Attorney
> General
> > Alberto Gonzalez is speaking to the Senate Judiciary Committee defending
> > the Bush/NSA secret spy program. First of all, his defending a program
> that
> > he advised the p-Resident on is a blatant conflict of interest and he
> > should have recused himself from any involvement. Now he's reinforcing
> the
> whole
> > flim-flam of evil Arab terrorists mounting a formidable threat that puts
> > us in a state of war. Bear this in mind as you read on...
> >
> > NY 911 TRUTH BULLETIN BOARD
> >
> > We have a bulletin board which is a great tool for brainstorming and
> news
> > sharing. This is the place to go to engage in online dialogue with
> people
> > in our activist community. Go to http://p105.ezboard.com/bny911truth and
> > register. It's helpful to use the Global option which you'll see.
> Different
> > sections can be set up for various focus groups or projects. See you
> there...
> >
> > STRATEGY SESSION
> >
> > Our next Strategy Session will be on Tuesday Feb. 7th, 7PM at the deli
> on
> > 5th Ave. and 13th Street, south east corner, upstairs. We'll continue
> work
> > on our letter writing campaign, work on 1-2 minute presentations, new
> > visuals for street actions, and media outreach planning. Then we'll go
> out
> and
> > do some public outreach for the legislative action project. Also, we'll
> have
> > flyers for people to distribute throughout the week.
> >
> > MAJOR FLYERING OPPORTUNITY
> >
> > Here's an important event we'll want people to attend and flyer!
> >
> > "Were We Misled?"
> > Wednesday, February 8
> > 7:00 - 9:00 PM (doors open at 6:30)
> > NY Society For Ethical Culture - Concert Hall
> > 64th St. & Central Park West
> >
> > Join Brian Lehrer for a debate on prewar intelligence, featuring David
> > Corn, Washington editor of The Nation and author of The Lies of George
> W.
> > Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception; Bob Graham, former Florida
> senator
> > (D) and chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee; Christopher
> Hitchens,
> > author and columnist for Vanity Fair; and Bruce Jackson, co-founder of
> the
> > Project for a New American Century, a nonprofit neoconservative think
> > tank. Admission is free. Seating is first come, first served. For more
> > information, contact WNYC Listener Services at 212-669-3333 or
> > listenerservices@wnyc.org .
> >
> > Who ever can be there and needs flyers, come to the Strategy Session on
> > Tuesday mentioned above.
> >
> > IMPORTANT RESEARCH PROJECT
> >
> > Researcher and film maker Mike Berger from St. Louis feels that the NY
> > Public Library has a lot of material including important photos about
> the
> > construction of the trade towers. Does anyone have experience doing
> research
> > there? If so, and you're able to spend an afternoon or so looking for
> these
> > materials, please email me ASAP at jazzyday@earthlink.net.
> >
> > FILM PROJECT INTERN OPPORTUNITY
> >
> > Kyle Hence is looking for someone to help with some administrative tasks
> > for his current film project on 9/11. This film could have a great
> impact.
> A
> > lot of work and investment has gone into it. Please contact him at
> > kylehence@earthlink.net ASAP if you're interested.
> >
> > STREET ACTION MOBILIZATION
> >
> > As you all know, not is the time to work harder than ever to inform the
> > public about the official deception on 9/11. We're in the process of
> creating
> > more effective visuals that make the point. We need people who have a
> > couple of hours a month to get in touch and we'll form teams. Just say
> when you
> > can participate and we'll do the rest. If even 15 more people come
> > forward, we can literally change the public consciousness and create a
> cultural
> > shift, which is ultimately what has to happen.
> >
> > CITIZENS COUNTER-COUP
> >
> > This coming Saturday will be February 11th. It will 4 years and 5 months
> > since 9/11/01. This week and next we'll want to inform elected officials
> and
> > media that We The People haven't been tricked by the government's Big
> Lie
> > of 9/11. The site at http://3c.911truth.org is a platform from which we
> can
> > put the political powers on notice, turn up the heat, as well as provide
> > support for those in government that know we're under the assault of
> fascist
> > forces who feel they cannot fight the corruption unless a large
> > constituency is behind them.
> >
> > The site will have some new talking points by Wed. For all who truly
> want
> > justice for 9/11 and full spectrum progressive change, this tool has
> been
> > structured to provide the leverage that we'll need. All it will take is
> your
> > participation and your work in spreading the word.
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed individuals can
> > change the world.
> > In fact, it's the only thing that ever has."
> > - Margaret Mead
> >
> > Truth will prevail,
> >
> > Les
> > _______________________________________________
> > News mailing list
> > News@list.ny911truth.org
> > http://list.they.org/mailman/listinfo/news
> >
> >
> >
> > Become A PART of the Solution at Liberty Underground.
> > http://luvsite.org/ (Go to CLICK HERE FOR LUV MENU).
> >
> > Learn how the Broadcast News Media Deceives You!
> > http://www.tvnewslies.org/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[911InsideJobbers] more hoffman links

JIM HOFFMAN TRASHES THE SEPT 11 STAND DOWN EVIDENCE
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/hoffmanstanddown.html

Mark Rabinowitz and Jim Hoffman lie about the BTS
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/rabidbts.html
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/rabidbts2.html

THE ( PHANTOM ) PLANES MEME adapted from 911review.com
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/meme.html

HOFFMAN AND THE PENTAGON by “Jack Straw”
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/320469.shtml?discuss#186921

alexldent wrote:
> Okay... but how do we know that Hoffman is taking cues from the NSA? What
> is the most damning thing? That he thinks flight 77 hit the Pentagon? These
> connections of Hoffman to the NSA are not very convincing in of themselves.
> Lots of scietific institutes get money from different federal agencies. How do
> we know Jack Hoffman is Jim Hoffman's uncle? I can't find anything on the
> web...
>
> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
> wrote:
>
>> This is from Nico:
>>
>> Hoffman is formerly associated with an NSA sponsored institute and via
>> his uncle Jack Hoffman to yet another NASA- and NSA contractor Veridian:
>> Noone else than Neil Armstrong (his sister is married to Jack), himself
>> tied to "Project Trailblazer".
>>
>> Trailblazer was contracted via NRO and NSA since 1998 and was partly
>> developed by BTG Inc. and BoozAllen Hamilton in the very same pentagon
>> wedge, which was officially attacked on sep11th.
>>
>> Trailblazer was recently also exposed in mainstream media = MSM,
>>
> however
>
>> without reference to pre-9/11 contracts.
>>
>>
>> alexldent wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone help me-- what is the evidence that is Hoffman is
>>>
> connected to
>
>>> the NSA again? Not that I doubt it so much but rather I would like to show
>>>
> it to
>
>>> other people. Thanks.

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Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06

> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Cathy Garger <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com>
> An: Nico Haupt <nicohaupt@gmx.li>, 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06
> Datum: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:47:58 -0800 (PST)

Les was even promoted into the main board of 911truth.org a while ago.

And when i spoke out critically about his membership of US-infiltrated
URANTIA, the very same group organized a dinner for ny911truth.org,
to reach out for new sympathies.

I also believe, they invited Webster on purpose, to provoke a bad reputation
on himself, but that's now his own problem.

nico

> Hi Nico,
>
> Chest falling time. I know. One thing I am is honest, and as the
> eternal optimist I was hoping (against hope) that maybe Les J. was not one
of
> the actual 9/11truthorg. people. I knew that they had done the Tarpley
event
> and thought, Well maybe what I heard is wrong? Maybe they are okay? I
> mean, Tarpley's book is about as MIHOP as it gets... and why in the world
> would he allow Tarpley to speak if he didn't embrace his philosophy.. so
my
> reasoning went.
>
> I had heard not good things about Nic L. but I didn't know that he was
> like the "boss" of the entire group. Wow. How in the world could he make
> up such a lie to say the event was cancelled? I know that Greg never told
> anybody that he'd cancelled it.
>
> Okay. I am so glad you wrote, Nico. We (those who are able to do so)
> must make the event even bigger still. I know that Greg said that even if
> he walks alone it is still going to make his point and still going to be a
> success, however... I do not want one of them there and then go the next
day
> and write that the event was a miserable success without their endorsement
> (ie, telling the world, basically, that the only way to do things is their
> way - or no way at all).
>
> If they truly wanted to get out the truth, they would have been
> contacting Greg to ask how they could help promote his idea.
>
> Talk about a true War On Truth.
>
> Thanks again, Nico. This info is valuable - and hope to see you with
> Greg on 2/20!
>
> Cath
>
> Nico Haupt <nicohaupt@gmx.li> wrote:
> > --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> > Von: Cathy Garger
> > An: 911truthaction@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06
> > Datum: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:47:30 -0800 (PST)
> >
>
> They know. They block and sabotage.
>
> Furthermore Nic Levis claimed in front of 15 witnesses
> on the evening of Webster Tarpley's event, that Greg's Protest March
> was allegedly cancelled.
>
> I was one of these witnesses and accused Levis again as a cointel-pro
> asset
> and therefore left immediately.
>
>
>
> > Don't know if all of you receive this, but it is interesting to note
> that
> > there is no mention yet about the 2/20 action in NYC. Do they perhaps
> not
> > know about it yet? I am checking first as I don't want to re-invent the
> > wheel and contact them about asking them to include the event in their
> next
> > mailing if someone has already asked them to do so.
> >
> > Also, I know that there is a film project going on, and thought that
> > maybe they could use some help with someone in our group who is an
> expert
> on
> > INSIDE JOB brand of truth? I mean, there is only one real truth, and I
> > would imagine that a film about 9/11 truth would need to use the best
> > researchers out there, right?
> >
> > news@list.ny911truth.org wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Here is a reminder of 2 events this week. As I'm writing, Attorney
> General
> > Alberto Gonzalez is speaking to the Senate Judiciary Committee defending
> > the Bush/NSA secret spy program. First of all, his defending a program
> that
> > he advised the p-Resident on is a blatant conflict of interest and he
> > should have recused himself from any involvement. Now he's reinforcing
> the
> whole
> > flim-flam of evil Arab terrorists mounting a formidable threat that puts
> > us in a state of war. Bear this in mind as you read on...
> >
> > NY 911 TRUTH BULLETIN BOARD
> >
> > We have a bulletin board which is a great tool for brainstorming and
> news
> > sharing. This is the place to go to engage in online dialogue with
> people
> > in our activist community. Go to http://p105.ezboard.com/bny911truth and
> > register. It's helpful to use the Global option which you'll see.
> Different
> > sections can be set up for various focus groups or projects. See you
> there...
> >
> > STRATEGY SESSION
> >
> > Our next Strategy Session will be on Tuesday Feb. 7th, 7PM at the deli
> on
> > 5th Ave. and 13th Street, south east corner, upstairs. We'll continue
> work
> > on our letter writing campaign, work on 1-2 minute presentations, new
> > visuals for street actions, and media outreach planning. Then we'll go
> out
> and
> > do some public outreach for the legislative action project. Also, we'll
> have
> > flyers for people to distribute throughout the week.
> >
> > MAJOR FLYERING OPPORTUNITY
> >
> > Here's an important event we'll want people to attend and flyer!
> >
> > "Were We Misled?"
> > Wednesday, February 8
> > 7:00 - 9:00 PM (doors open at 6:30)
> > NY Society For Ethical Culture - Concert Hall
> > 64th St. & Central Park West
> >
> > Join Brian Lehrer for a debate on prewar intelligence, featuring David
> > Corn, Washington editor of The Nation and author of The Lies of George
> W.
> > Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception; Bob Graham, former Florida
> senator
> > (D) and chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee; Christopher
> Hitchens,
> > author and columnist for Vanity Fair; and Bruce Jackson, co-founder of
> the
> > Project for a New American Century, a nonprofit neoconservative think
> > tank. Admission is free. Seating is first come, first served. For more
> > information, contact WNYC Listener Services at 212-669-3333 or
> > listenerservices@wnyc.org .
> >
> > Who ever can be there and needs flyers, come to the Strategy Session on
> > Tuesday mentioned above.
> >
> > IMPORTANT RESEARCH PROJECT
> >
> > Researcher and film maker Mike Berger from St. Louis feels that the NY
> > Public Library has a lot of material including important photos about
> the
> > construction of the trade towers. Does anyone have experience doing
> research
> > there? If so, and you're able to spend an afternoon or so looking for
> these
> > materials, please email me ASAP at jazzyday@earthlink.net.
> >
> > FILM PROJECT INTERN OPPORTUNITY
> >
> > Kyle Hence is looking for someone to help with some administrative tasks
> > for his current film project on 9/11. This film could have a great
> impact.
> A
> > lot of work and investment has gone into it. Please contact him at
> > kylehence@earthlink.net ASAP if you're interested.
> >
> > STREET ACTION MOBILIZATION
> >
> > As you all know, not is the time to work harder than ever to inform the
> > public about the official deception on 9/11. We're in the process of
> creating
> > more effective visuals that make the point. We need people who have a
> > couple of hours a month to get in touch and we'll form teams. Just say
> when you
> > can participate and we'll do the rest. If even 15 more people come
> > forward, we can literally change the public consciousness and create a
> cultural
> > shift, which is ultimately what has to happen.
> >
> > CITIZENS COUNTER-COUP
> >
> > This coming Saturday will be February 11th. It will 4 years and 5 months
> > since 9/11/01. This week and next we'll want to inform elected officials
> and
> > media that We The People haven't been tricked by the government's Big
> Lie
> > of 9/11. The site at http://3c.911truth.org is a platform from which we
> can
> > put the political powers on notice, turn up the heat, as well as provide
> > support for those in government that know we're under the assault of
> fascist
> > forces who feel they cannot fight the corruption unless a large
> > constituency is behind them.
> >
> > The site will have some new talking points by Wed. For all who truly
> want
> > justice for 9/11 and full spectrum progressive change, this tool has
> been
> > structured to provide the leverage that we'll need. All it will take is
> your
> > participation and your work in spreading the word.
> >
> > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed individuals can
> > change the world.
> > In fact, it's the only thing that ever has."
> > - Margaret Mead
> >
> > Truth will prevail,
> >
> > Les
> > _______________________________________________
> > News mailing list
> > News@list.ny911truth.org
> > http://list.they.org/mailman/listinfo/news
> >
> >
> >
> > Become A PART of the Solution at Liberty Underground.
> > http://luvsite.org/ (Go to CLICK HERE FOR LUV MENU).
> >
> > Learn how the Broadcast News Media Deceives You!
> > http://www.tvnewslies.org/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: Controlled Demolition Limited Hangout?

Okay... but how do we know that Hoffman is taking cues from the NSA?  What
is the most damning thing?  That he thinks flight 77 hit the Pentagon?  These
connections of Hoffman to the NSA are not very convincing in of themselves. 
Lots of scietific institutes get money from different federal agencies.  How do
we know Jack Hoffman is Jim Hoffman's uncle?  I can't find anything on the
web...

--- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@...>
wrote:
>
> This is from Nico:
>
> Hoffman is formerly associated with an NSA sponsored institute and via
> his uncle Jack Hoffman to yet another NASA- and NSA contractor Veridian:
> Noone else than Neil Armstrong (his sister is married to Jack), himself
> tied to "Project Trailblazer".
>
> Trailblazer was contracted via NRO and NSA since 1998 and was partly
> developed by BTG Inc. and BoozAllen Hamilton in the very same pentagon
> wedge, which was officially attacked on sep11th.
>
> Trailblazer was recently also exposed in mainstream media = MSM,
however
> without reference to pre-9/11 contracts.
>
>
> alexldent wrote:
> > Can someone help me-- what is the evidence that is Hoffman is
connected to
> > the NSA again?  Not that I doubt it so much but rather I would like to show
it to
> > other people.  Thanks.
> >
> >
> > --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, Total Information <
totalinfo@>
> > wrote:
> >  
> >> I just mentioned they sent out their press release on PRWeb.  PRWeb is
an
> >> open system, anyone with a few hundred bucks can use it.  Many
university
> >> departments use it to announce a new study, etc.
> >>
> >> On 2/3/06, Rosalee Grable <webfairy@> wrote:
> >>    
> >>>  Outed. as in exposed against his will?
> >>>
> >>> I am extremely suspicious of Professor Jones, under any circumstance.
> >>> Exposed like the "truth movement" did to Underwriter Lab's Ryan would
> >>> not surprise me.
> >>>
> >>> Jones is one who quotes NSA's Jim Hoffman like some demigod, and
> >>>      
> > thought
> >  
> >>> that the vanishment of the second hit cartoon looks "like he'd expect."
> >>> Sneer. He's supposed to be a physics professor and does not notice
> >>> Gravity and Conservation of Energy are being violated ?
> >>>
> >>> What they're good at is getting publicity.
> >>> PR. I don't understand how Total figured out that they are using
> >>> professional PR.
> >>> It's an important fact.
> >>> Professional PR is at the tippy-top of my perp list. I think "93 heroes"
> >>> Beamer and Bingham were professional PR guys who wrote
themselves
> >>>      
> > into
> >  
> >>> the plot.
> >>> WE determined that their memorial websites are handled by gov
> >>>      
> > connected
> >  
> >>> PR firms.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> alexldent wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>> I think it is a limited hangout because:
> >>>> a) they can say they wired the WTC after the 1993 bombing as a
safety
> >>>> precaution and they had to keep this secret so the terrorists wouldn't
> >>>> know
> >>>> b) the demolition can always be sold as a preventive measure they
had
> >>>> to take to save additionbal lives in lower manhattan
> >>>> c) if the demolition charges were put in after '93, the demolition
> >>>> doesn't imply they knew 9/11 was coming or that 9/11 was an inside
job
> >>>> d) the demolition, like the putative shootdown of flight 93, is seen
> >>>> as a reactive measure the govt had to take in response to the
> >>>> attacks-- a neccessary evil, if you will
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> How this will all play out, I don't know.  I think the momentum for
> >>>> exposing the demolition is building-- particularly after Professor
> >>>> Jones' latest talk-- and he has outed my friend, a professor of
> >>>> engineering  who is convinced the towers were brought down by
> >>>>        
> >>> demolition.
> >>>      
> >>>> --- In 911InsideJobbers@yahoogroups.com, "inphoman911"
> >>>> <inphoman911@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>> I honestly don't see how they could get away with it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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He claimed it by himself.
On you other point i would also agree.
Many institutes receive military- or intel money.

But this in the mix increases the case.
Also, i personally believe he's more brainwashed and manipulated
than really payrolled, but i wouldn't rule out more.

nico

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Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06

Hi Nico,

 

Chest falling time.  I know.  One thing I am is honest, and as the eternal optimist I was hoping (against hope) that maybe Les J. was not one of the actual 9/11truthorg. people.  I knew that they had done the Tarpley event and thought, Well maybe what I heard is wrong?  Maybe they are okay?  I mean, Tarpley's book is about as MIHOP as it gets... and why in the world would he allow Tarpley to speak if he didn't embrace his philosophy.. so my reasoning went.

 

I had heard not good things about Nic L. but I didn't know that he was like the "boss" of the entire group.  Wow.  How in the world could he make up such a lie to say the event was cancelled?  I know that Greg never told anybody that he'd cancelled it.

 

Okay.  I am so glad you wrote, Nico.  We (those who are able to do so) must make the event even bigger still.  I know that Greg said that even if he walks alone it is still going to make his point and still going to be a success, however... I do not want one of them there and then go the next day and write that the event was a miserable success without their endorsement (ie, telling the world, basically, that the only way to do things is their way - or no way at all).

 

If they truly wanted to get out the truth, they would have been contacting Greg to ask how they could help promote his idea.

 

Talk about a true War On Truth.

 

Thanks again, Nico.  This info is valuable - and hope to see you with Greg on 2/20! 

 

Cath

Nico Haupt <nicohaupt@gmx.li> wrote:

> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Cathy Garger
> An: 911truthaction@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06
> Datum: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:47:30 -0800 (PST)
>

They know. They block and sabotage.

Furthermore Nic Levis claimed in front of 15 witnesses
on the evening of Webster Tarpley's event, that Greg's Protest March
was allegedly cancelled.

I was one of these witnesses and accused Levis again as a cointel-pro asset
and therefore left immediately.



> Don't know if all of you receive this, but it is interesting to note that
> there is no mention yet about the 2/20 action in NYC. Do they perhaps not
> know about it yet? I am checking first as I don't want to re-invent the
> wheel and contact them about asking them to include the event in their
next
> mailing if someone has already asked them to do so.
>
> Also, I know that there is a film project going on, and thought that
> maybe they could use some help with someone in our group who is an expert
on
> INSIDE JOB brand of truth? I mean, there is only one real truth, and I
> would imagine that a film about 9/11 truth would need to use the best
> researchers out there, right?
>
> news@list.ny911truth.org wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Here is a reminder of 2 events this week. As I'm writing, Attorney General
> Alberto Gonzalez is speaking to the Senate Judiciary Committee defending
> the Bush/NSA secret spy program. First of all, his defending a program
that
> he advised the p-Resident on is a blatant conflict of interest and he
> should have recused himself from any involvement. Now he's reinforcing the
whole
> flim-flam of evil Arab terrorists mounting a formidable threat that puts
> us in a state of war. Bear this in mind as you read on...
>
> NY 911 TRUTH BULLETIN BOARD
>
> We have a bulletin board which is a great tool for brainstorming and news
> sharing. This is the place to go to engage in online dialogue with people
> in our activist community. Go to http://p105.ezboard.com/bny911truth and
> register. It's helpful to use the Global option which you'll see.
Different
> sections can be set up for various focus groups or projects. See you
there...
>
> STRATEGY SESSION
>
> Our next Strategy Session will be on Tuesday Feb. 7th, 7PM at the deli on
> 5th Ave. and 13th Street, south east corner, upstairs. We'll continue work
> on our letter writing campaign, work on 1-2 minute presentations, new
> visuals for street actions, and media outreach planning. Then we'll go out
and
> do some public outreach for the legislative action project. Also, we'll
have
> flyers for people to distribute throughout the week.
>
> MAJOR FLYERING OPPORTUNITY
>
> Here's an important event we'll want people to attend and flyer!
>
> "Were We Misled?"
> Wednesday, February 8
> 7:00 - 9:00 PM (doors open at 6:30)
> NY Society For Ethical Culture - Concert Hall
> 64th St. & Central Park West
>
> Join Brian Lehrer for a debate on prewar intelligence, featuring David
> Corn, Washington editor of The Nation and author of The Lies of George W.
> Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception; Bob Graham, former Florida
senator
> (D) and chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee; Christopher
Hitchens,
> author and columnist for Vanity Fair; and Bruce Jackson, co-founder of the
> Project for a New American Century, a nonprofit neoconservative think
> tank. Admission is free. Seating is first come, first served. For more
> information, contact WNYC Listener Services at 212-669-3333 or
> listenerservices@wnyc.org .
>
> Who ever can be there and needs flyers, come to the Strategy Session on
> Tuesday mentioned above.
>
> IMPORTANT RESEARCH PROJECT
>
> Researcher and film maker Mike Berger from St. Louis feels that the NY
> Public Library has a lot of material including important photos about the
> construction of the trade towers. Does anyone have experience doing
research
> there? If so, and you're able to spend an afternoon or so looking for
these
> materials, please email me ASAP at jazzyday@earthlink.net.
>
> FILM PROJECT INTERN OPPORTUNITY
>
> Kyle Hence is looking for someone to help with some administrative tasks
> for his current film project on 9/11. This film could have a great impact.
A
> lot of work and investment has gone into it. Please contact him at
> kylehence@earthlink.net ASAP if you're interested.
>
> STREET ACTION MOBILIZATION
>
> As you all know, not is the time to work harder than ever to inform the
> public about the official deception on 9/11. We're in the process of
creating
> more effective visuals that make the point. We need people who have a
> couple of hours a month to get in touch and we'll form teams. Just say
when you
> can participate and we'll do the rest. If even 15 more people come
> forward, we can literally change the public consciousness and create a
cultural
> shift, which is ultimately what has to happen.
>
> CITIZENS COUNTER-COUP
>
> This coming Saturday will be February 11th. It will 4 years and 5 months
> since 9/11/01. This week and next we'll want to inform elected officials
and
> media that We The People haven't been tricked by the government's Big Lie
> of 9/11. The site at http://3c.911truth.org is a platform from which we
can
> put the political powers on notice, turn up the heat, as well as provide
> support for those in government that know we're under the assault of
fascist
> forces who feel they cannot fight the corruption unless a large
> constituency is behind them.
>
> The site will have some new talking points by Wed. For all who truly want
> justice for 9/11 and full spectrum progressive change, this tool has been
> structured to provide the leverage that we'll need. All it will take is
your
> participation and your work in spreading the word.
>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed individuals can
> change the world.
> In fact, it's the only thing that ever has."
> - Margaret Mead
>
> Truth will prevail,
>
> Les
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Re: [911InsideJobbers] Maybe Off Topic (Fox news interview on 9/11 with premeditated lying guy in Harley tee shirt)

The interviewer is Rick Leventhal of Fux "Fairly Imbalanced" News.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,1221,00.html
He worked the Church-Murray vicinity, as shown in the Canale dvds.
Nico judges that vicinity to be high in perply presences. Nico and I
together positively ID'd it as the location of the incriminating Naudet
1st Hit Reaction Shot:
http://team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.98

It's also where the too-small "engine" and "wheel" parts of "175"
were "found."

The black guy in the background of this latest clip seems like a
spook, possibly in cahoots with the interviewee.

The interviewee's name, I don't know, but he might possibly say it in a
longer version, which might possibly be on the Canale set, though I own
the Canale set and don't recall this interview clip.

Ray

On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, The Webfairy wrote:

> "Mostly due to structural failure cos the fire was just too intense" the
> guy smiles.
>
> This snakecharmer is certainly on topic
>
>
> Bill Giltner wrote:
> > Maybe I should post this at another group, because it may seem that
> > I'm wanting to review the towers coming down rather than the towers
> > being hit. Has anybody seen this:
> > http://www.positiontoknow.com/S-11/vid/18_1-too.happy.mpg
> >
> > Has this guy been identified?
> >
> >
> >
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> > <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=96846>
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Re: [911InsideJobbers] Next Utah article on "911Scholars"

Isn't he just another potential academic who could deny this is workable:-

 

THE MOTIONLESS ELECTROMAGNETIC GENERATOR: HOW IT WORKS.

T. E. Bearden, August 26, 2003

http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/Fact_Sheets/Fact

 

He appeared on a TV show in front of the public and flunked it. Whether that was because of his wrong choice of the media he chose or that he was set up it is not clear. The American people should have seen how he was treated. Just another conspiracy theorist or just another Bush basher and not seen in the light of his profession. 

 

May be he is just an innocent who is trying to inform the American people.  

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Subject: [911InsideJobbers] Next Utah article on "911Scholars"

Physics Professor Questions 'Official Story' of 9/11
NetXNews - Orem,UT,USA
February 6, 2006
http://www.netxnews.net/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/05/43e6b9f390edf

... BYU physics professor Stephen E. Jones, who delivered a presentation
based on physics that challenges the official story the public has been
given about 9/11. ...

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2/20 March for 9/11 Truth NYC: The Tipping Point?     

Malcom Gladwell in his new book:Tipping Point: How Little Things Can
Make a Big Difference believes "small actions can spark social
epidemics." I am counting on it. Ladies and gentlemen we need  an
epidemic of epic proportions to spread  - an awareness of the
reality of what happened on 9/11(A) To use the words of
Chossudovsky `The world is at the most serious crossroads in modern
history."(B)The fraudulent "War on Terror" threatens the very future
of humanity.

This coming February 20th in New York City offers a chance for
citizens action's to spark this
social epidemic. 9/11 activists and concerned citizens will confront
media figures keeping 9/11 truth under wraps. We will confront two
public figures seeking higher office on the back of 9/11. One is
former New York City Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, the man mistakenly
portrayed as a hero of 9/11, when in fact, he is a perpetrator of
the crime. The other, the Attorney General Elliot Spitzer; running
for Governor on a record that has allowed this monumental act of
False Flag Terror to go unaccounted for in his district.  We will
ask for Spitzer to resign, for Giuliani to be placed under arrest.

The 9/11 truth movement is now over four years old. There have been
many false starts, many false hope campaigns and enough suffering to
go around for everyone. The moment in history for action is closing,
the machinery of war and the drumbeats for new conquests are now
deafening.It is our moment to stave off a near certain catastrophe.
9/11 truth is about more than justice for the past, it is about what
kind of world we want for our future.

Let us recall,that a lone drag queen threw a punch at Stonewall
thirty years ago and launched the Gay Rights revolution. A black
woman refused to go and sit at the back of the bus and began the
Civil rights Movement.. Can a letter and a warrant from the people
bring down the giant criminal enterprise that America has become? Do
we want to leave our fate to fate. The evil that destroyed those
majestic towers in New York did not come from a cave in Afghanistan,
it came from a dying militaristic Anglo empire. The book of
fate,despite what Shakespeare may have thought is not written for
us, it is ours to be written.

Please all come to Ground Zero in lower Manhattan on February 20th
(c)to meet and to march to restore  sanity to our teetering world.
Please all come to Ground Zero and make your voices heard that we
know what happened on 9/11 and the lives of 2,986 Americans and the
nameless thousands killed in the illegal wars abroad will not go
unaccounted for. Please all come together to make our small
symbolical action a chance for the truth to be heard . let us hope
the tipping point will be here and now for an end to this frame-up
on humanity, falsely named of "the war on terror"This is a war on
freedom. Make Your voice heard in New York on 2/20, your future
depends on it.

A.http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/132208/index.php

B. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?
context=viewArticle&code=CHO20051221&articleId=1576


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Re: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06

> --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Cathy Garger <savorsuccesslady@yahoo.com>
> An: 911truthaction@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [911InsideJobbers] Re: [ny911] NY 911 Truth Update 2-6-06
> Datum: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:47:30 -0800 (PST)
>

They know. They block and sabotage.

Furthermore Nic Levis claimed in front of 15 witnesses
on the evening of Webster Tarpley's event, that Greg's Protest March
was allegedly cancelled.

I was one of these witnesses and accused Levis again as a cointel-pro asset
and therefore left immediately.

> Don't know if all of you receive this, but it is interesting to note that
> there is no mention yet about the 2/20 action in NYC. Do they perhaps not
> know about it yet? I am checking first as I don't want to re-invent the
> wheel and contact them about asking them to include the event in their
next
> mailing if someone has already asked them to do so.
>
> Also, I know that there is a film project going on, and thought that
> maybe they could use some help with someone in our group who is an expert
on
> INSIDE JOB brand of truth? I mean, there is only one real truth, and I
> would imagine that a film about 9/11 truth would need to use the best
> researchers out there, right?
>
> news@list.ny911truth.org wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Here is a reminder of 2 events this week. As I'm writing, Attorney General
> Alberto Gonzalez is speaking to the Senate Judiciary Committee defending
> the Bush/NSA secret spy program. First of all, his defending a program
that
> he advised the p-Resident on is a blatant conflict of interest and he
> should have recused himself from any involvement. Now he's reinforcing the
whole
> flim-flam of evil Arab terrorists mounting a formidable threat that puts
> us in a state of war. Bear this in mind as you read on...
>
> NY 911 TRUTH BULLETIN BOARD
>
> We have a bulletin board which is a great tool for brainstorming and news
> sharing. This is the place to go to engage in online dialogue with people
> in our activist community. Go to http://p105.ezboard.com/bny911truth and
> register. It's helpful to use the Global option which you'll see.
Different
> sections can be set up for various focus groups or projects. See you
there...
>
> STRATEGY SESSION
>
> Our next Strategy Session will be on Tuesday Feb. 7th, 7PM at the deli on
> 5th Ave. and 13th Street, south east corner, upstairs. We'll continue work
> on our letter writing campaign, work on 1-2 minute presentations, new
> visuals for street actions, and media outreach planning. Then we'll go out
and
> do some public outreach for the legislative action project. Also, we'll
have
> flyers for people to distribute throughout the week.
>
> MAJOR FLYERING OPPORTUNITY
>
> Here's an important event we'll want people to attend and flyer!
>
> "Were We Misled?"
> Wednesday, February 8
> 7:00 - 9:00 PM (doors open at 6:30)
> NY Society For Ethical Culture - Concert Hall
> 64th St. & Central Park West
>
> Join Brian Lehrer for a debate on prewar intelligence, featuring David
> Corn, Washington editor of The Nation and author of The Lies of George W.
> Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception; Bob Graham, former Florida
senator
> (D) and chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee; Christopher
Hitchens,
> author and columnist for Vanity Fair; and Bruce Jackson, co-founder of the
> Project for a New American Century, a nonprofit neoconservative think
> tank. Admission is free. Seating is first come, first served. For more
> information, contact WNYC Listener Services at 212-669-3333 or
> listenerservices@wnyc.org .
>
> Who ever can be there and needs flyers, come to the Strategy Session on
> Tuesday mentioned above.
>
> IMPORTANT RESEARCH PROJECT
>
> Researcher and film maker Mike Berger from St. Louis feels that the NY
> Public Library has a lot of material including important photos about the
> construction of the trade towers. Does anyone have experience doing
research
> there? If so, and you're able to spend an afternoon or so looking for
these
> materials, please email me ASAP at jazzyday@earthlink.net.
>
> FILM PROJECT INTERN OPPORTUNITY
>
> Kyle Hence is looking for someone to help with some administrative tasks
> for his current film project on 9/11. This film could have a great impact.
A
> lot of work and investment has gone into it. Please contact him at
> kylehence@earthlink.net ASAP if you're interested.
>
> STREET ACTION MOBILIZATION
>
> As you all know, not is the time to work harder than ever to inform the
> public about the official deception on 9/11. We're in the process of
creating
> more effective visuals that make the point. We need people who have a
> couple of hours a month to get in touch and we'll form teams. Just say
when you
> can participate and we'll do the rest. If even 15 more people come
> forward, we can literally change the public consciousness and create a
cultural
> shift, which is ultimately what has to happen.
>
> CITIZENS COUNTER-COUP
>
> This coming Saturday will be February 11th. It will 4 years and 5 months
> since 9/11/01. This week and next we'll want to inform elected officials
and
> media that We The People haven't been tricked by the government's Big Lie
> of 9/11. The site at http://3c.911truth.org is a platform from which we
can
> put the political powers on notice, turn up the heat, as well as provide
> support for those in government that know we're under the assault of
fascist
> forces who feel they cannot fight the corruption unless a large
> constituency is behind them.
>
> The site will have some new talking points by Wed. For all who truly want
> justice for 9/11 and full spectrum progressive change, this tool has been
> structured to provide the leverage that we'll need. All it will take is
your
> participation and your work in spreading the word.
>
> "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed individuals can
> change the world.
> In fact, it's the only thing that ever has."
> - Margaret Mead
>
> Truth will prevail,
>
> Les
> _______________________________________________
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