Saturday, June 24, 2006

2.: A message from Marsha

Posted by: "mofmars3@sbcglobal.net" mofmars3@sbcglobal.net marshamcclelland

Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:56 am (PST)

Dear United-Stands-America@yahoogroups.com -- Marsha sent you the
following message:
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Dear first_name,

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To all the Republicans who sit in their air-conditioned offices
and talk of the courage it takes for them to keep young kids in
harm's way - I say enough. Karl Rove talking about "cutting and
running" while he sits on his big, fat backside-saying "stay the
course." I say enough! That's not a plan! We've got to have a new
direction, and it's clear we need more Democrats in Congress to
get that done.

No matter how obvious the mistakes in Iraq become, or how many
Americans get fed up, Republicans in Congress and the White House
will label you a traitor to your country if you stand up and
question them.

I'm not naïve enough to think it won't be an issue in the
election year but accusing people of being unpatriotic cheats
good Americans out of any chance for a real resolution to the
mess in Iraq. And while this issue of war is neither a Democratic
nor a Republican one, the need for new leadership in the House is
clearly an issue.

While the Republicans have been busy name calling, the situation
in Iraq has only gotten worse. The insurgency has grown
exponentially. IED attacks, where our troops are sitting ducks
for an enemy they can't even see, have increased steadily. And
the patience of the American people for this flawed policy is
running out.

We need to put an end to these outrageous attacks on people who
disagree with Bush and his Rubber Stamp Republican Congress's
"sit and watch" plan for Iraq. My colleagues in the House
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Last week, during the House floor debate, I hoped the Republicans
would have realized that the majority of the American people do
not support this war. I hoped that they would have recognized
that the American people need more from their government than a
Republican Congress that asks no questions and demands no
answers. But that didn't happen, and it's clear we need a
Democratic majority to chart a new course.

When I offered a concrete plan to get our troops out of harm's
way, where they have become the target, I didn't expect every
member of Congress or every candidate to agree with my specific
proposal in this debate. But I did expect them to acknowledge
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3.: 9/11: MIB or Jew Coup Two?

Posted by: "Pay_the_Piper" pay_the_piper@shaw.ca

Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:17 am (PST)

----- Original Message -----
From: "rriverrapid" <rustrobert@hotmail.com>
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 3:09 AM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: seen the photos -evidence of elements that do
not incinerate into gas

> Whassa matta? I'll tell ya whassa matta. There was a reverse
> antimatter window screen portolator injector on the window sill which
> nobhobbled the nicknack below the high-set interfluxed resonator
> rambelt jet. Duh!
>
> In Plane Site English that means some friggin secret FBI bumb slipped
> in there without being seen in the middle of day and put in a new
> window to replace the old one that got cracked when the plane's rear
> view mirror bounced off it. Man! Figure it out!! NOthin was left to
> chance.
>
> Pocket Rocket Robert

By George he's got it except to add that the FBI was an alien MIB. UFOlogy
is no doubt a serious science. UFO = FACT.
Of course, the nutbar faction discredits all UFOlogy. You know the type.
Jane Doe says she was abducted on a hot summer night, taken to a flying
saucer and impregnated by an alien who looked like a Sonoma cactus. Now
little Suzie is a sweet child but she has a rather prickly personality.

Just as we can rank order the suspicious physical evidence, we can rank
order the who-dun-its responsible. So far I'm putting the BYU professor's
thermite at Twin Towers and the failure to provide an autopsy/debris report
to the public on the Pentagon crash as tops in physical evidence.

Jew Coup One was 1917 in Russia. As for the 9/11 who, is it a Jew who - Jew
Coup Two? That is more likely than MIB although it ranks high among taboos
examined by the-dialectic- . If Jew Coup Two is true, then what are the
implications? First, we should start working on a new Dr. Seuss poem. Next,
we should realize that have only a fascade of power in the Whitehouse.
Liberty and Justice have been defeated in the land of the free, home of the
brave. Finally, Texas should secede and send out a Slim Pickens actor waving
a cowboy hat to ride a nuke all the way down to Haifa.

PtP

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4.: The One Percent Doctrine - activist opportunity at BN.com and Amazo

Posted by: "John Leonard" jpleonard@verizon.net emerging.geo

Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:28 am (PST)

Barnes & Noble's website allows you to post customer reviews

For a year I've been trying to get 9/11 Synthetic Terror into the
chain bookstores, with a special effort on Barnes & Noble. I've sent
them the 3rd edition and the buyer is supposed to make a decision now.

One obstacle has been a lack of customer reviews at BN.com. We have
lots of great Amazon reviews, but so far only one on the old edition,
and none on the new edition at BN.com. If anyone could like to post a
customer review of Synthetic Terror there, this would be a very
positive and timely step.

You can also recommend other titles. For instance, you can review a
related book that is a top seller and recommend a 9/11 truth book there.

Yesterday a big "war on terror" propaganda piece was #1 on Amazon and
#3 on BN.com, named The One Percent Doctrine.

This is an excellent target for promoting alternative views. See the
9/11 truth activist review at
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?z=y&cds2Pid=5576&isbn=0743271092

or just go to BN.com, click on Bestsellers and then look for
The One Percent Doctrine: Deep Inside America's Pursuit of Its
Enemies Since 9/11
by Ron Suskind

At Amazon.com, you can post comments to a customer discussion about this book.
Near the bottom of the page at http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743271092/

While you're there please vote for my review, which Amazon has
posted, a bit to my surprise. So far the votes are 0 for 2 against my review:

From deep inside the factory where America's "enemies" are made, June 22, 2006
Reviewer: J. Leonard (Calif) -

Suskind's agenda is to prop up the terrorist myths.

The first fairy tale is that an autonomous terrorist threat really
exists. Suskind betrays no hint that this 'enemy' has been fabricated
and sustained by the moles of the war party. Like Anonymous / Michael
Scheuer, Richard Clarke, Bob Woodward and other "leakers" of official
piping, he glorifies it with great fanfare, and is appropriately
rewarded with imaginative gems, such as his heroic tale of how an
alleged Al Qaeda cyanide attack on NYC was thwarted two months after
9/11. Officials were skeptical even then. Why is this crude
propaganda being dusted off now?

The second fable is that our top elected pinnochios are more than
puppets. In fact, the psy-war and synthetic terror methods are older
than the Anglo-American empire that was built on them. The custodians
of these secrets of power have assassinated every president who
really stood up to them.

Suskind has got lots of material to cover over the elephant in the
living room called "9/11 Truth." The glaring fact of the controlled
demolition of the WTC and total lack of evidence implicating "Arab
hijackers," and the growing demand for justice for the real 9/11
criminals inside the government - none of this counts in Suskind's world.

Putting a bit of Punch and Judy on corrupt puppets like Bush and
Cheney is a weak substitute. To those who have read "George Bush: The
Unauthorized Biography," it comes as no surprise that the gang who
financed Hitler two generations ago are still trying to impose a
fascist world order for their plutocratic string-pullers.

The intelligence community is always generous with (dis-) information
to help authors further its cause. Suskind's sources might belong to
the conservative spy faction, who are even more horrified by the
prospect of an Iranian adventure than by the Mess o' Potamia. They
are striving to get the US back on track, and retrieve the errors of
the Bushmaniacs - without abandoning the empire's most valuable tool:
synthetic terror.

But if the middle-roaders were not able to stop the neocon fascist
madmen from taking over this country, stealing elections, gutting the
constitution, and terrorizing the populace with 9/11, could they stop
a possible further escalation to nuclear false-flag terror, which
would blow all their ruminations sky-high as a mammoth holocaust of
vengeful rage seizes America? Their ammunition, from Abu Ghraib
(information leaked to Seymour Hersh) to the latest horror stories
from Iraq, or Suskind's material, does not even have the explosive
power of 9/11, the war party's current trump.

"The centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The
blood-dimmed tide is loosed... The best lack all conviction, while
the worst, Are full of passionate intensity."

With a few exceptions like Webster Tarpley, who appeals to his
listeners on World Crisis Radio to be bold and grab hold of "9/11
truth" as the only issue that can stop war. His unauthorized
revelations in "9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA" trace the 9/11
atrocity to a military psy-op network that has operated for decades
within NATO.

Once you've read that analysis, you can interpret some hints dropped
in "The One Percent Doctrine." On the capture of Abu Zubaydah,
Suskind expresses dismay that the "United States would torture a
mentally disturbed man and then leap, screaming, at every word he
uttered." But this is how patsies have always been used, from Guy
Fawkes to Moussaoui, it is their whole purpose in life and death, as
Tarpley points out.

Suskind quotes Jefferson's "Whenever the people are well-informed,
they can be trusted with their own government." Nice to know, but the
problem is elsewhere: WE can't trust our government, nor the
information it puts out through channels like this.

This book is half band-aid, half apology for post-9/11 militarism.
The only real cure would be the straight and narrow way, to expose
the Big Lie of 9/11 itself. If writers like Suskind really want to
stop the slide to unbridled fascism and militarism, they would need
to face the facts of 9/11: that it was an inside job from A to Z;
that the September criminals are still in power, able and liable to
commit even worse acts to get us into war with Iran; and then they
would try to share those facts with a reluctant and censorship-ridden
citizenry.

Suskind's revelations are anything but. He says the CIA had missed
the rise of Islamic fundamentalism in Iran, the fall of the Soviet
Union, and Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, but it had repeatedly warned
about al Qaeda. Read "Synthetic Terror" and turn each point on its head.

Know that the UK and then the US have fostered Islamic fundamentalism
since the late 18th century, in order to debilitate a potential rival
empire. In the October Surprise - Iran Contra era, the CIA (shorthand
for Anglo-American covert policymaking and dirty tricks) helped
topple the Shah and install the Ayatollahs. Know that Brzezinski
lured the Soviet Union into Afghanistan to bring its downfall, that
Bush Sr. lured Saddam into Kuwait, and that al-Qaeda was just the
CIA's foreign legion, always attacking where their masters needed it,
the Russians in Afghanistan, or Gaddafi in Tripoli...

According to Von Buelow, intelligence agencies spend 5% of their
energy on intelligence, 95% on deception. The term "intelligence
agency" itself is deceptive, and so is this book. The "bungling" or
"incompetence theory of 9/11," supposedly "provocative" and
"controversial," actually serves to bolster what one BBC 2
documentary called "The Terror Myth." It's the perfect rationale for
even bigger CIA and warfare budgets!

Under a sugar-coating of concern for peace, justice, security, and
criticism of the current puppet regime, the poison pills are slipped
in, and the bogeyman of terrorism is inflated even larger than before.

This book is a concerted effort to take the debate off the subject of
the 9/11 conspiracy, and back to Us Vs. Them.

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5.: Webster Tarpley - Out The Rabbit Hole w/Robert Larson & SMiles Lewis

Posted by: "S Miles Lewis" yahoolists@elfis.net elfismiles

Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:32 am (PST)

Webster Griffin Tarpley on Out The Rabbit Hole w/Robert Larson &
SMiles Lewis

Out the Rabbit Hole with Robert Larson
Reality Slamming Gab & Jamming 6-7 pm CST (Special Public Affairs
Time)

The "9/11 Truth Movement" (those who do not accept the "official"
version of what occurred on September 11th, 2001) has been growing by
leaps and bounds and is concretizing into a full blown conference
this weekend in Los Angeles. "The American Scholars Symposium: 9/11 +
The Neo-Con Agenda" is being presented by alt. media icon and
parapolitical researcher Alex Jones. Hear an interview with one of
the conference presenters, Webster Tarpley who has written several
books on geo-political matters and international fascism, including
an unauthorized biography of George H. W. Bush. His latest work 9/11
Synthetic Terror: Made In USA asks many distrubing questions and
comes to even more disturbing conclusions. Gonzo alt. media
proprietor and informationalist SMiles Lewis will also join in the
discussion.

If you are not in Irvine California, Listen Online:
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Out the Rabbit Hole with Robert Larson
Reality Slamming Gab & Jamming
6-7 pm CST (Special Public Affairs Time)
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6.: Video: Fetzer on Fox News! tvnl news

Posted by: "reggie501" reggie501@optonline.net reggie501

Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:32 am (PST)

9/11 News : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#911

· Jim Fetzer of Scholars for 911 Truth on Fox News
- TVNL Comment: VIDEO

· Thousands claim exposure in 9/11 aftermath - David Worby is now at
the helm of what he calls the largest and most important class-action
lawsuit in U.S. history, representing thousands of people he says are
dying at an accelerated pace from exposure to toxins at Ground Zero.

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7a.: Re: YES! 'Offense'! working from defensive position is not wor

Posted by: "Pay_the_Piper" pay_the_piper@shaw.ca

Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:33 am (PST)

You raise a good point about the psyops part of this. If the Jews set the Arabs up to take the fall for 9/11, maybe the WASPS behind them set the Jews up to take the fall and maybe the HORNETS (Horny Old Rebellious NEgro Terrorists) set up the WASPS and behind all that .... MIB.

Psych!

PtP
----- Original Message -----
From: smacko
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:47 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] YES! 'Offense'! working from defensive position is not working / and is bogus psyOp bringing us down

YES! 'Offense'! working from defensive position is not working / and is bogus psyOp bringing us down

we gotta get out of the defensive reactionary cowering subservient position/characterization/stigmata

Justice/Accountability is not supposed to take the 'back-seat' in this system/process of Accountability/Justice!

such is espionage against our American system

such espionage is continuing to inflict dangerous 'Intelligence Failure' security risk

we gotta start functioning accountability within the forums we communicate & seek Accountability ... ya think

ya dig?

Q;o)

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7b.: Re: YES! 'Offense'! working from defensive position is not wor

Posted by: "smacko" smacko9@comcast.net drsmacko

Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:37 pm (PST)

no ... yer trying to ridicule / usurp / wipe-away the point ... by hijacking / morphing / re-coining as if some feeble racial / religious nonsense.

why?

----- Original Message -----
From: Pay_the_Piper
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Cc: the-dialectic-of-the-dialectic@yahoogroups.com ; UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] YES! 'Offense'! working from defensive position is not working / and is bogus psyOp bringing us down

You raise a good point about the psyops part of this. If the Jews set the Arabs up to take the fall for 9/11, maybe the WASPS behind them set the Jews up to take the fall and maybe the HORNETS (Horny Old Rebellious NEgro Terrorists) set up the WASPS and behind all that .... MIB.

Psych!

PtP
----- Original Message -----
From: smacko
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:47 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] YES! 'Offense'! working from defensive position is not working / and is bogus psyOp bringing us down

YES! 'Offense'! working from defensive position is not working / and is bogus psyOp bringing us down

we gotta get out of the defensive reactionary cowering subservient position/characterization/stigmata

Justice/Accountability is not supposed to take the 'back-seat' in this system/process of Accountability/Justice!

such is espionage against our American system

such espionage is continuing to inflict dangerous 'Intelligence Failure' security risk

we gotta start functioning accountability within the forums we communicate & seek Accountability ... ya think

ya dig?

Q;o)

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8a.: Re: Fw: Response to questions (about the 9-11 Pentagon attack)

Posted by: "Naveed" flanker12k@yahoo.com flanker12k

Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:58 am (PST)

the trash has been taken out.

In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
- Notebook, 1904

http://www.fightthenwo.org/

----- Original Message ----
From: Ole Gerstrøm <gerstrom@post2.tele.dk>
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:58:29 AM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Re: Fw: Response to questions (about the 9-11 Pentagon attack)

Again "Robert" has the language of the disinformist.

Yours, Ole Gerstrom

----- Original Message -----
From: rriverrapid
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:56 AM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Fw: Response to questions (about the 9-11 Pentagon attack)

It's Aliens man. I'm puttin my money on Martians. I know them dag
nab lizards!

sssss, Robert

--- In 911TruthAction@ yahoogroups. com, Richard Pierce
<phobicflyonthewall @...> wrote:
>
> Nothing hit those light posts. They should have damage where they
were hit. They were aparently popped out on purpose to make it apear
that something knocked them over. A 757 could not have flown thru
the maze of posts with hitting a lot of them and having wing damage
all over the place, not to mention tearing up the lawn. No wing
parts anywhere??? No damage to the grass lawn either!?!? What about
the missle/rocket plumes in the pics??? Jets/757s do not give off
smoke plumes unless at really high altitudes.
>
> rriverrapid <rustrobert@ ...> wrote: The claim that a 757
didn't hit the Pentagon does the greatest damage
> to the entire 911 truth movement. It alone will sink the
> investigation by making everyone who believes in the no 757 theory
> look very bad. And so they should look bad.
>
> Every claim that is associated with no 757 hitting the Pentagon can
> be refuted and shown to be based on poor investigation, pure
> speculation, illogicial extrapolation, and jumping to conclusions.
>
> The light poles that were knocked down by the 757 are
> designed,like all street lights, to fall easily when hit by
vehicles,
> in order to limit damage. The "mysterious" tent that is shown in
> some photos and claimed to be hiding something inside it, is
clearly
> one of the blue, portable, lightweight half-cylinder tents used by
> the clean up personel. Hundreds of witness reports are available to
> read, and they all consistently reveal 757 hit the Pentagon. Are we
> to ignore all of them, and favour someone's claim that the 757
> somehow flew silently over the Pentagon with no witnesses seeing
that
> happen? On www.911research. com, it is explained how a high speed
> plane, when impacting a reinforced steel object will disintegrate
> into small pieces, which to an inexperienced witness seems odd.
Note
> how the 767's that hit the Towers appeared to melt into the towers
> and essentially disintegrated. The Pentagon 757 hit at 45 degrees,
> at about 350 mph, perhaps a bit less. It will not crash simply like
> on cartoons. It's nose will hit first, causing the whole body of
the
> plane to rotate slightly towards the Pentagon wall. The tail, with
> upward extending vertical stabilizer, will tend to make the tail
> section move upwards as the plane crashes. The effect is to make
the
> tail hit to the right and upwards from where the nose of the plane
> hut. The crash was very destructive, and the plane parts mostly
> busted up into smaller pieces, flying all over the place. It rained
> plane debris for a minute or more at the Pentagon. Some of the
debris
> landed on the roof. As many witnesses report, a huge ball of fire
> exploded only after the plane had smashed into the side of the
> Pentagon. Ie, disintegrated plane pieces were already being
violently
> propelled all over the place before the fire ball enveloped the
front
> of the pentagon. Take a look at the photo on www.911research. com
that
> shows how the Tomahawk fighter plane disintegrates as it hits the
> concrete wall. The Pentagon plane won't disintegrate into dust
quite
> like that plane, but the pictures give you an idea of what happens
to
> a high speed plane when it hits an immoveable object.
>
> One of the biggest claims made by speculators is that the hole in
the
> pentagon wall where the plane impacted is only around 13 feet. They
> use this idea to support their false claim that no 757 hit the
> Pentagon. Using more photos, it can be easily shown that over 90
feet
> of the first floor wall is missing and destroyed, not to mention
> damage extending further along the outside wall, plus the great
> number of interior colums that were damaged and destroyed, plus the
> floor itself. The left wing, due to the 45 degree angle of the
plane
> as it hit, hit the building second, after the nose. The wing tip
hit
> first, and the progressive impact of the wing would have caused the
> whole plane to begin to move squarely into the building. The left
> wing would begin to rotate into the wall, thereby reducing the
> effective wingspan of the plane as it hit.
>
> The piece of airplane skin with the letter N on it is debris from
the
> plane, but it is not clear when the photo was taken. The photo was
> taken some time after the clean up had already started. The skin
> debris is consistent with a 757 airplane. It is very possible some
> person had placed it there, during the clean up, but that does not
> mean a secret agent planted it. Are we to conclude that secret
agents
> were planting fake airplane debris everywhere, including loads of
> small plane pieces, heavy engine parts, 757 wheels, large 757
landing
> gear structures (very heavy), larger skin pieces, and more. We have
> endless people reporting a 757 hit the pentagon. If we are to
believe
> airplane debris was planted everywhere, why is there not even one
> witness statement about it? Do we have to ignore all the hundreds
of
> statements that clearly indicate a 757 hit the Pentagon, just so
the
> wishful thinkers can have their "super" conspiracy and coverup.
>
> Are the true conspirators so lame brained that, in order to fool
> the people that a 757 really hit the Pentagon, they think they have
> to shoot a missile or remote controlled fighter plane into the
> Pentagon, set off explosions all over the place, make the real 757
> just miss the Pentagon, unseen, land the 757 a mile or two away at
> the Reagan airport, again unseen and unnoticed, and then somehow
get
> rid of a bunch of passengers and the 757 plane itself, while not
> involving too many people so that is remains a secret and
> unwitnessed. Okay, lets make a simple crash really complicated.
> That's the way to get away with a criminal act. Make it so
difficult
> to pull off that it is practically impossible to pull off and has
> great risks associated with it and thus is likely to fail. In
truth,
> it is enough to fly an actual 757 into the Pentagon to make it look
> like a 757 hit the Pentagon. All one has to do is gain remote
control
> of the plane (using its auto-pilot system and its transponder
> channel), disable the pilots somehow (perhaps using a remotely
> exploded gas bottle in the cockpit, or "terrorist" dupes on the
plane
> who don't know how to fly the plane but take over the cock pit),
and
> then remotely direct the plane into the building. That would be
> simple. It's very possible with modern technology. Remotely
> controlled jet liners have been flown from the US to Australia,
> including landing, taking off, and taxiing.
>
> The damage to the the construction trailers, fences, vehicles, and
> short concrete walls in front of the Pentagon is all consistent
with
> a 757 coming in low and hitting the Pentagon. The large generator
> trailer was brushed by one wing and rotated towards the Pentagon.
It
> caught on fire and exploded into flames shortly later (I wonder
why)
> The chain link fence had an engine go through it. A pylon scraped
> along the top of the generator trailer. The wings and engines just
> cleared or missed the wire spools out in front of the building,
> spools that were about 60 feet from the building. The plane almost
> hit at ground level when it hit the building. The fuselage, being
> above the wings, created the 17 (or so) foot hole that everyone is
> talking about, into the second floor. The wings, being lower than
the
> fuselage, and being the heaviest and strongest part of the plane,
> crashed into the first floor level and did the most damage. The
> tail, as I explained, moved up and to the right as the plane
impacted
> and disintegrated. The vertical stabliziler is only a tonne or
less,
> and disintegrated mostly on impact, as did the fins, wing tips, and
> fuselage of the plane.
>
> On and on a person can go. Suffice it to say that the crash scene
is
> completely consistent with a 757 hitting the Pentagon reinforced
> concrete wall at around 350 mph, at an angle of 45 degrees. When
the
> 757 hit the Pentagon, the first stages of its impact would have
> resembled the 767's impact into the towers, in terms of the plane
> melting into the object it was hitting, and disintegrating. Of
course
> the Pentagon wall was a 1 foot thick steel reinforced structure,
> lined with a foot of other solid material (like brick and slate),
> designed to be bomb and impact proof. It had large steel beams in
> its floors, in its colums, and in its walls. So we can expect the
> plane to splatter a bit more than the planes that hit the towers,
> which were more likely sliced up as they entered the towers, due to
> narrow spacing of the exterior columns of the towers.
>
> That videos of the 757 hitting the Pentagon not being released is
> testimony of the perpetrators desires to keep the Pentagon crash
full
> of speculation, in order to facilitate the discrediting of all
> legitimate investigation of the 911 event. We are not spared any
> video of the tower crashes, but wouldn't you know it, we,
> for "security" reasons are not allowed to see the Pentagon crash.
> What a perfect way to get the people speculating about nonsense.
What
> a perfect way to discredit the whole 911 research community.
>
> Those who claim no plane hit the Pentagon unknowingly and foolishly
> accomplish for the perpetrators what the perpetrators dream of -
> keeping the 911 discovery movement regarded as a bunch of
conspiracy
> nuts with whacko ideas. People need to take a lesson from history
> and realize that the same method was used in the JFK assination.
> Today the perpetrators have the internet to help them, and thus a
> whole lot more access to gullible poeple with poor or no genuine
> critical research abilities.
>
> So long as the no-757-hit-the- Pentagon remains a focus of the 911
> movement, so long will the wait for 911 truth and success in its
> revelation be in coming. The worst enemy of the movement are the
> people themselves due to their inabilities to distinquish beliefs
> from truths and their propensities to live in poorly grounded
> speculation endlessly. Fortunately bridge building is left to
> qualified engineers and other careful and capable researchers and
> designers.
>
> It's interesting to note that the plane hit directly into a tree
out
> front of the Pentagon. Perhaps a signal device, or beacon, had been
> planted in the tree earlier, emitting a signal to direct the plane
in
> its last minutes of flight.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
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8b.: Re: Fw: Response to questions (about the 9-11 Pentagon attack)

Posted by: "Richard Pierce" phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com phobicflyonthewall

Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:55 pm (PST)

I'm with you, "Ole Gerstrøm"....

Ole Gerstrøm <gerstrom@post2.tele.dk> wrote: Again "Robert" has the language of the disinformist.

Yours, Ole Gerstrom

----- Original Message -----
From: rriverrapid
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:56 AM
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: Fw: Response to questions (about the 9-11 Pentagon attack)

It's Aliens man. I'm puttin my money on Martians. I know them dag
nab lizards!

sssss, Robert

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Richard Pierce
<phobicflyonthewall@...> wrote:
>
> Nothing hit those light posts. They should have damage where they
were hit. They were aparently popped out on purpose to make it apear
that something knocked them over. A 757 could not have flown thru
the maze of posts with hitting a lot of them and having wing damage
all over the place, not to mention tearing up the lawn. No wing
parts anywhere??? No damage to the grass lawn either!?!? What about
the missle/rocket plumes in the pics??? Jets/757s do not give off
smoke plumes unless at really high altitudes.
>
> rriverrapid <rustrobert@...> wrote: The claim that a 757
didn't hit the Pentagon does the greatest damage
> to the entire 911 truth movement. It alone will sink the
> investigation by making everyone who believes in the no 757 theory
> look very bad. And so they should look bad.
>
> Every claim that is associated with no 757 hitting the Pentagon can
> be refuted and shown to be based on poor investigation, pure
> speculation, illogicial extrapolation, and jumping to conclusions.
>
> The light poles that were knocked down by the 757 are
> designed,like all street lights, to fall easily when hit by
vehicles,
> in order to limit damage. The "mysterious" tent that is shown in
> some photos and claimed to be hiding something inside it, is
clearly
> one of the blue, portable, lightweight half-cylinder tents used by
> the clean up personel. Hundreds of witness reports are available to
> read, and they all consistently reveal 757 hit the Pentagon. Are we
> to ignore all of them, and favour someone's claim that the 757
> somehow flew silently over the Pentagon with no witnesses seeing
that
> happen? On www.911research.com, it is explained how a high speed
> plane, when impacting a reinforced steel object will disintegrate
> into small pieces, which to an inexperienced witness seems odd.
Note
> how the 767's that hit the Towers appeared to melt into the towers
> and essentially disintegrated. The Pentagon 757 hit at 45 degrees,
> at about 350 mph, perhaps a bit less. It will not crash simply like
> on cartoons. It's nose will hit first, causing the whole body of
the
> plane to rotate slightly towards the Pentagon wall. The tail, with
> upward extending vertical stabilizer, will tend to make the tail
> section move upwards as the plane crashes. The effect is to make
the
> tail hit to the right and upwards from where the nose of the plane
> hut. The crash was very destructive, and the plane parts mostly
> busted up into smaller pieces, flying all over the place. It rained
> plane debris for a minute or more at the Pentagon. Some of the
debris
> landed on the roof. As many witnesses report, a huge ball of fire
> exploded only after the plane had smashed into the side of the
> Pentagon. Ie, disintegrated plane pieces were already being
violently
> propelled all over the place before the fire ball enveloped the
front
> of the pentagon. Take a look at the photo on www.911research.com
that
> shows how the Tomahawk fighter plane disintegrates as it hits the
> concrete wall. The Pentagon plane won't disintegrate into dust
quite
> like that plane, but the pictures give you an idea of what happens
to
> a high speed plane when it hits an immoveable object.
>
> One of the biggest claims made by speculators is that the hole in
the
> pentagon wall where the plane impacted is only around 13 feet. They
> use this idea to support their false claim that no 757 hit the
> Pentagon. Using more photos, it can be easily shown that over 90
feet
> of the first floor wall is missing and destroyed, not to mention
> damage extending further along the outside wall, plus the great
> number of interior colums that were damaged and destroyed, plus the
> floor itself. The left wing, due to the 45 degree angle of the
plane
> as it hit, hit the building second, after the nose. The wing tip
hit
> first, and the progressive impact of the wing would have caused the
> whole plane to begin to move squarely into the building. The left
> wing would begin to rotate into the wall, thereby reducing the
> effective wingspan of the plane as it hit.
>
> The piece of airplane skin with the letter N on it is debris from
the
> plane, but it is not clear when the photo was taken. The photo was
> taken some time after the clean up had already started. The skin
> debris is consistent with a 757 airplane. It is very possible some
> person had placed it there, during the clean up, but that does not
> mean a secret agent planted it. Are we to conclude that secret
agents
> were planting fake airplane debris everywhere, including loads of
> small plane pieces, heavy engine parts, 757 wheels, large 757
landing
> gear structures (very heavy), larger skin pieces, and more. We have
> endless people reporting a 757 hit the pentagon. If we are to
believe
> airplane debris was planted everywhere, why is there not even one
> witness statement about it? Do we have to ignore all the hundreds
of
> statements that clearly indicate a 757 hit the Pentagon, just so
the
> wishful thinkers can have their "super" conspiracy and coverup.
>
> Are the true conspirators so lame brained that, in order to fool
> the people that a 757 really hit the Pentagon, they think they have
> to shoot a missile or remote controlled fighter plane into the
> Pentagon, set off explosions all over the place, make the real 757
> just miss the Pentagon, unseen, land the 757 a mile or two away at
> the Reagan airport, again unseen and unnoticed, and then somehow
get
> rid of a bunch of passengers and the 757 plane itself, while not
> involving too many people so that is remains a secret and
> unwitnessed. Okay, lets make a simple crash really complicated.
> That's the way to get away with a criminal act. Make it so
difficult
> to pull off that it is practically impossible to pull off and has
> great risks associated with it and thus is likely to fail. In
truth,
> it is enough to fly an actual 757 into the Pentagon to make it look
> like a 757 hit the Pentagon. All one has to do is gain remote
control
> of the plane (using its auto-pilot system and its transponder
> channel), disable the pilots somehow (perhaps using a remotely
> exploded gas bottle in the cockpit, or "terrorist" dupes on the
plane
> who don't know how to fly the plane but take over the cock pit),
and
> then remotely direct the plane into the building. That would be
> simple. It's very possible with modern technology. Remotely
> controlled jet liners have been flown from the US to Australia,
> including landing, taking off, and taxiing.
>
> The damage to the the construction trailers, fences, vehicles, and
> short concrete walls in front of the Pentagon is all consistent
with
> a 757 coming in low and hitting the Pentagon. The large generator
> trailer was brushed by one wing and rotated towards the Pentagon.
It
> caught on fire and exploded into flames shortly later (I wonder
why)
> The chain link fence had an engine go through it. A pylon scraped
> along the top of the generator trailer. The wings and engines just
> cleared or missed the wire spools out in front of the building,
> spools that were about 60 feet from the building. The plane almost
> hit at ground level when it hit the building. The fuselage, being
> above the wings, created the 17 (or so) foot hole that everyone is
> talking about, into the second floor. The wings, being lower than
the
> fuselage, and being the heaviest and strongest part of the plane,
> crashed into the first floor level and did the most damage. The
> tail, as I explained, moved up and to the right as the plane
impacted
> and disintegrated. The vertical stabliziler is only a tonne or
less,
> and disintegrated mostly on impact, as did the fins, wing tips, and
> fuselage of the plane.
>
> On and on a person can go. Suffice it to say that the crash scene
is
> completely consistent with a 757 hitting the Pentagon reinforced
> concrete wall at around 350 mph, at an angle of 45 degrees. When
the
> 757 hit the Pentagon, the first stages of its impact would have
> resembled the 767's impact into the towers, in terms of the plane
> melting into the object it was hitting, and disintegrating. Of
course
> the Pentagon wall was a 1 foot thick steel reinforced structure,
> lined with a foot of other solid material (like brick and slate),
> designed to be bomb and impact proof. It had large steel beams in
> its floors, in its colums, and in its walls. So we can expect the
> plane to splatter a bit more than the planes that hit the towers,
> which were more likely sliced up as they entered the towers, due to
> narrow spacing of the exterior columns of the towers.
>
> That videos of the 757 hitting the Pentagon not being released is
> testimony of the perpetrators desires to keep the Pentagon crash
full
> of speculation, in order to facilitate the discrediting of all
> legitimate investigation of the 911 event. We are not spared any
> video of the tower crashes, but wouldn't you know it, we,
> for "security" reasons are not allowed to see the Pentagon crash.
> What a perfect way to get the people speculating about nonsense.
What
> a perfect way to discredit the whole 911 research community.
>
> Those who claim no plane hit the Pentagon unknowingly and foolishly
> accomplish for the perpetrators what the perpetrators dream of -
> keeping the 911 discovery movement regarded as a bunch of
conspiracy
> nuts with whacko ideas. People need to take a lesson from history
> and realize that the same method was used in the JFK assination.
> Today the perpetrators have the internet to help them, and thus a
> whole lot more access to gullible poeple with poor or no genuine
> critical research abilities.
>
> So long as the no-757-hit-the-Pentagon remains a focus of the 911
> movement, so long will the wait for 911 truth and success in its
> revelation be in coming. The worst enemy of the movement are the
> people themselves due to their inabilities to distinquish beliefs
> from truths and their propensities to live in poorly grounded
> speculation endlessly. Fortunately bridge building is left to
> qualified engineers and other careful and capable researchers and
> designers.
>
> It's interesting to note that the plane hit directly into a tree
out
> front of the Pentagon. Perhaps a signal device, or beacon, had been
> planted in the tree earlier, emitting a signal to direct the plane
in
> its last minutes of flight.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
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8c.: Re: Fw: Response to questions (about the 9-11 Pentagon attack)

Posted by: "Richard Pierce" phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com phobicflyonthewall

Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:02 pm (PST)

Everybody needs to put rriver rat's email in their block list. Looks like he is just trying to disrupt this group.

rriverrapid <rustrobert@hotmail.com> wrote: It's Aliens man. I'm puttin my money on Martians. I know them dag
nab lizards!

sssss, Robert

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Richard Pierce
<phobicflyonthewall@...> wrote:
>
> Nothing hit those light posts. They should have damage where they
were hit. They were aparently popped out on purpose to make it apear
that something knocked them over. A 757 could not have flown thru
the maze of posts with hitting a lot of them and having wing damage
all over the place, not to mention tearing up the lawn. No wing
parts anywhere??? No damage to the grass lawn either!?!? What about
the missle/rocket plumes in the pics??? Jets/757s do not give off
smoke plumes unless at really high altitudes.
>
> rriverrapid <rustrobert@...> wrote: The claim that a 757
didn't hit the Pentagon does the greatest damage
> to the entire 911 truth movement. It alone will sink the
> investigation by making everyone who believes in the no 757 theory
> look very bad. And so they should look bad.
>
> Every claim that is associated with no 757 hitting the Pentagon can
> be refuted and shown to be based on poor investigation, pure
> speculation, illogicial extrapolation, and jumping to conclusions.
>
> The light poles that were knocked down by the 757 are
> designed,like all street lights, to fall easily when hit by
vehicles,
> in order to limit damage. The "mysterious" tent that is shown in
> some photos and claimed to be hiding something inside it, is
clearly
> one of the blue, portable, lightweight half-cylinder tents used by
> the clean up personel. Hundreds of witness reports are available to
> read, and they all consistently reveal 757 hit the Pentagon. Are we
> to ignore all of them, and favour someone's claim that the 757
> somehow flew silently over the Pentagon with no witnesses seeing
that
> happen? On www.911research.com, it is explained how a high speed
> plane, when impacting a reinforced steel object will disintegrate
> into small pieces, which to an inexperienced witness seems odd.
Note
> how the 767's that hit the Towers appeared to melt into the towers
> and essentially disintegrated. The Pentagon 757 hit at 45 degrees,
> at about 350 mph, perhaps a bit less. It will not crash simply like
> on cartoons. It's nose will hit first, causing the whole body of
the
> plane to rotate slightly towards the Pentagon wall. The tail, with
> upward extending vertical stabilizer, will tend to make the tail
> section move upwards as the plane crashes. The effect is to make
the
> tail hit to the right and upwards from where the nose of the plane
> hut. The crash was very destructive, and the plane parts mostly
> busted up into smaller pieces, flying all over the place. It rained
> plane debris for a minute or more at the Pentagon. Some of the
debris
> landed on the roof. As many witnesses report, a huge ball of fire
> exploded only after the plane had smashed into the side of the
> Pentagon. Ie, disintegrated plane pieces were already being
violently
> propelled all over the place before the fire ball enveloped the
front
> of the pentagon. Take a look at the photo on www.911research.com
that
> shows how the Tomahawk fighter plane disintegrates as it hits the
> concrete wall. The Pentagon plane won't disintegrate into dust
quite
> like that plane, but the pictures give you an idea of what happens
to
> a high speed plane when it hits an immoveable object.
>
> One of the biggest claims made by speculators is that the hole in
the
> pentagon wall where the plane impacted is only around 13 feet. They
> use this idea to support their false claim that no 757 hit the
> Pentagon. Using more photos, it can be easily shown that over 90
feet
> of the first floor wall is missing and destroyed, not to mention
> damage extending further along the outside wall, plus the great
> number of interior colums that were damaged and destroyed, plus the
> floor itself. The left wing, due to the 45 degree angle of the
plane
> as it hit, hit the building second, after the nose. The wing tip
hit
> first, and the progressive impact of the wing would have caused the
> whole plane to begin to move squarely into the building. The left
> wing would begin to rotate into the wall, thereby reducing the
> effective wingspan of the plane as it hit.
>
> The piece of airplane skin with the letter N on it is debris from
the
> plane, but it is not clear when the photo was taken. The photo was
> taken some time after the clean up had already started. The skin
> debris is consistent with a 757 airplane. It is very possible some
> person had placed it there, during the clean up, but that does not
> mean a secret agent planted it. Are we to conclude that secret
agents
> were planting fake airplane debris everywhere, including loads of
> small plane pieces, heavy engine parts, 757 wheels, large 757
landing
> gear structures (very heavy), larger skin pieces, and more. We have
> endless people reporting a 757 hit the pentagon. If we are to
believe
> airplane debris was planted everywhere, why is there not even one
> witness statement about it? Do we have to ignore all the hundreds
of
> statements that clearly indicate a 757 hit the Pentagon, just so
the
> wishful thinkers can have their "super" conspiracy and coverup.
>
> Are the true conspirators so lame brained that, in order to fool
> the people that a 757 really hit the Pentagon, they think they have
> to shoot a missile or remote controlled fighter plane into the
> Pentagon, set off explosions all over the place, make the real 757
> just miss the Pentagon, unseen, land the 757 a mile or two away at
> the Reagan airport, again unseen and unnoticed, and then somehow
get
> rid of a bunch of passengers and the 757 plane itself, while not
> involving too many people so that is remains a secret and
> unwitnessed. Okay, lets make a simple crash really complicated.
> That's the way to get away with a criminal act. Make it so
difficult
> to pull off that it is practically impossible to pull off and has
> great risks associated with it and thus is likely to fail. In
truth,
> it is enough to fly an actual 757 into the Pentagon to make it look
> like a 757 hit the Pentagon. All one has to do is gain remote
control
> of the plane (using its auto-pilot system and its transponder
> channel), disable the pilots somehow (perhaps using a remotely
> exploded gas bottle in the cockpit, or "terrorist" dupes on the
plane
> who don't know how to fly the plane but take over the cock pit),
and
> then remotely direct the plane into the building. That would be
> simple. It's very possible with modern technology. Remotely
> controlled jet liners have been flown from the US to Australia,
> including landing, taking off, and taxiing.
>
> The damage to the the construction trailers, fences, vehicles, and
> short concrete walls in front of the Pentagon is all consistent
with
> a 757 coming in low and hitting the Pentagon. The large generator
> trailer was brushed by one wing and rotated towards the Pentagon.
It
> caught on fire and exploded into flames shortly later (I wonder
why)
> The chain link fence had an engine go through it. A pylon scraped
> along the top of the generator trailer. The wings and engines just
> cleared or missed the wire spools out in front of the building,
> spools that were about 60 feet from the building. The plane almost
> hit at ground level when it hit the building. The fuselage, being
> above the wings, created the 17 (or so) foot hole that everyone is
> talking about, into the second floor. The wings, being lower than
the
> fuselage, and being the heaviest and strongest part of the plane,
> crashed into the first floor level and did the most damage. The
> tail, as I explained, moved up and to the right as the plane
impacted
> and disintegrated. The vertical stabliziler is only a tonne or
less,
> and disintegrated mostly on impact, as did the fins, wing tips, and
> fuselage of the plane.
>
> On and on a person can go. Suffice it to say that the crash scene
is
> completely consistent with a 757 hitting the Pentagon reinforced
> concrete wall at around 350 mph, at an angle of 45 degrees. When
the
> 757 hit the Pentagon, the first stages of its impact would have
> resembled the 767's impact into the towers, in terms of the plane
> melting into the object it was hitting, and disintegrating. Of
course
> the Pentagon wall was a 1 foot thick steel reinforced structure,
> lined with a foot of other solid material (like brick and slate),
> designed to be bomb and impact proof. It had large steel beams in
> its floors, in its colums, and in its walls. So we can expect the
> plane to splatter a bit more than the planes that hit the towers,
> which were more likely sliced up as they entered the towers, due to
> narrow spacing of the exterior columns of the towers.
>
> That videos of the 757 hitting the Pentagon not being released is
> testimony of the perpetrators desires to keep the Pentagon crash
full
> of speculation, in order to facilitate the discrediting of all
> legitimate investigation of the 911 event. We are not spared any
> video of the tower crashes, but wouldn't you know it, we,
> for "security" reasons are not allowed to see the Pentagon crash.
> What a perfect way to get the people speculating about nonsense.
What
> a perfect way to discredit the whole 911 research community.
>
> Those who claim no plane hit the Pentagon unknowingly and foolishly
> accomplish for the perpetrators what the perpetrators dream of -
> keeping the 911 discovery movement regarded as a bunch of
conspiracy
> nuts with whacko ideas. People need to take a lesson from history
> and realize that the same method was used in the JFK assination.
> Today the perpetrators have the internet to help them, and thus a
> whole lot more access to gullible poeple with poor or no genuine
> critical research abilities.
>
> So long as the no-757-hit-the-Pentagon remains a focus of the 911
> movement, so long will the wait for 911 truth and success in its
> revelation be in coming. The worst enemy of the movement are the
> people themselves due to their inabilities to distinquish beliefs
> from truths and their propensities to live in poorly grounded
> speculation endlessly. Fortunately bridge building is left to
> qualified engineers and other careful and capable researchers and
> designers.
>
> It's interesting to note that the plane hit directly into a tree
out
> front of the Pentagon. Perhaps a signal device, or beacon, had been
> planted in the tree earlier, emitting a signal to direct the plane
in
> its last minutes of flight.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
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9.: Proof the U.S. has lost the Iraq Invasion/Occupation + + + + +

Posted by: "ranger116@webtv.net" ranger116@webtv.net ranger116_2000

Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:34 pm (PST)

Proof the U.S. has lost the Iraq Invasion/Occupation + + + + +

The U.S. has prisoners in Guantanamo now for four years who they don't
have enough proof against to even place charges against them and now
that the U.S. army is being handed it's own ass by Patriotic Iraqi
Citizens fighting back.
The U.S. govt is offering amnesty to so called insurgents who have
killed U.S. soldiers.
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld better get your boys out before we have another
embarrassing bug out like when the U.S. lost the Vietnam Police Action.

Peace deal offers Iraq insurgents an amnesty - World - Times Online

Address:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-2239088,00.html

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Address:http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/big_surprises_at_bilderberg.html

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Afghan leader conedmns U.S. tactics - South and Central Asia - MSNBC.com

Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13473386/

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The Strangle hold gets tighter around your neck !

U.S. to view banking records in terror fight - U.S. Security - MSNBC.com

Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13492032/

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Miami - 7 Endictment Titled Overt Acts
But Shows No Overt Acts !

Obviously govt phony would be crime plans. Any terrorist with an 80 IQ
would know not to go after the now tallest
building in the US since the govt brought down the WTC, As if it
wouldn't be guarded like the White House

CBC News: 7 arrested in suspected plot against Chicago's Sears Tower
(As always if it's news there is always a Miami connection)

Address:http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/06/22/miamiarrests22062006.html

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A Page From Cryptocracy's Psychological Warfare Manual

Address:http://www.rense.com/general72/revv.htm

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Is the NSA spying on U.S. Internet traffic? | Salon News
( Of course they are, Just google your email address and see many of
your emails going back years )

Address:http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/06/21/att_nsa/index_np.html

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The Size Of Our World

Address:http://www.rense.com/general72/size.htm

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UFO Pentagon Hacker Tells What He Found

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10a.: Re: seen the photos -evidence of elements that do not incinerate int

Posted by: "Richard Pierce" phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com phobicflyonthewall

Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:36 pm (PST)

So how was it that the maneuvers of the 757 were impossible for a 757 and why is there not any damage to the maze of posts and no wing damage, etc on the lawn from tearing up the wings when they supposedly hit the posts??? A 757 could not have flown that low and not had wings torn apart from hitting the posts, which would have damaged the lawn and left torn up posts and wings all over the place.

rriverrapid <rustrobert@hotmail.com> wrote: Richard,

The Towers exteriors consist of steel columns spaced about 4 feet on
center, windows between. The last 10 feet of wing tips or so, did not
break any columns, if you look closely at the damage, only the
thicker parts of the wing, engines, and fuselage did. At the
Pentagon, pictures when correctly and properly viewed, show a 96 wide
hole spanning the first floor exterior wall, and a 17 foot diameter
hole above it going into the second floor. These are all a very big
hole, just the right size for a crashing 757 to create and enter into
the Pentagon. The Pentagon wall is made of one foot thick reinforced
concrete overlain by a layer of brick and stone work. The tower's
columns shredded the 767's that hit them, and the Pentagon's concrete
wall smashed to pieces the 757 that hit it.

See www.911research.com and www.911review.com

Robert

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "Nora Lenz" <nmlenz@...> wrote:
>
> It pains me to point out the obvious, but has it occurred to you
that the towers and the Pentagon were constructed of different
materials?
> Nora
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Pierce
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Re: seen the photos -evidence of
elements that do not incinerate into gas
>
>
> Did you see the videos of the airplanes hitting the twin
towere??? Did you see the long holes left from the wings and the
engines??? Now how come there was only a small-tiny hole right after
the impact on the pentagon???
>
> rriverrapid <rustrobert@...> wrote:
>
> Judy,
>
> Take a stroll through www.911review.com and 911research.com and
you
> will find pictures showing airplane debris all over the place
at the
> Pentagon, including engine structures, wheels, landing gear,
and much
> more. Study how a high speed plane hitting an immoveable object
in a
> head on manner at high speed breaks up into small pieces, or
> disintegrates. Disintegrates doesn't mean turning completely
and
> entirely into gas. Don't fill your mind with visions of that.
> Picture stronger plane parts breaking up considerably, but
> lightweight material being turned into small pieces, like
chuncks of
> metal a pound to ten in weight. The crash scene reveals this in
> pictures. We don't need to put claims in peoples mouths (such
as the
> governments mouth) that are not being made. Those folk in
government
> are people just like you and me. They don't have all the
answers
> either, they are not wizards who know everything about science
and
> technology, government workings, CIA operations, technical
details on
> plane crashes, and so forth. They do their job as best they can
and
> know how, just like any person at a factory who does his/her
part in
> screwing the bolt in place, but has no idea how to make a full
car,
> let alone run the factory that makes the car. To make a claim
> that "government is lying to us" is to make a claim that
everyone in
> government is intimately involved in the cover up. This is
> impossible. The only reasonable and rational conclusion is that
rogue
> elements within government and industry conspired to create
911, and
> while everyone else just continued doing their jobs like
they've
> always done. This is not a black and white, government is evil,
> people are good situation. It requires critical, careful
> investigation and understanding. Imagine being that worker in a
car
> factory who desires to understand the entire workings of the
factory
> in order that they may design and fully operate another one.
That is
> essentially where the average person is regarding the 911
event's
> occurence. Are you prepared to do the deep investigation that
is
> involved, and are you equipped or prepared intellectually to
> accomplish the task?
>
> We don't need to bring Eistein into 911. The pictures show all
sorts
> of easily seeable airplane debris all over the place at the
Pentagon.
> 911 doesn't require quantum physics in order to understand what
> happened, nor does 911 have to be made that complicated. The
plane
> did not disintegrate into gas and making that claim is
ingenuous,
> particularly in light of what the visual evidence clearly
shows --
> airplane debris all over the place, consistent with a high
speed
> airliner, a 757 specifically, hitting the highly reinforced,
just
> completed,bomb proof Pentagon exterior wall at a 45 degree
angle,
> creating a huge fuel explosion a second or two after the 757
started
> disintegrating (breaking up extremely violently and thoroughly).
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Posted by: "Richard Pierce" phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com phobicflyonthewall

Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:49 pm (PST)

You didn't even answer any questions!?!? Just a message that was a waste of time to read. Just what did penetrate all of those reinforsed wall, rings of the pentagon??? I think that it would take a depleted uranium tipped missle. I read a while back that they are getting radiation reading there now. Wish I still had the news article and/or link.

rriverrapid <rustrobert@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi,

If the hole was made by the perpetrators on purpose, why was it made?

If the hole was made by the perpetrators as a result of the crash,
how was it made?

What's the purpose of having a missile or 2nd jet hit the Pentagon
instead of just a simple airliner which will do the same damage as
what was made, and have the perfect scary effect?

People, especially bad guys, don't do things without purpose, not
events like 911. The Pentagon scenario had purpose in its action. It
wasn't a bungled mission, a mistake, or a chance success. Why would
perpetrators want to make the Pentagon crash so complicated, the
Tower crashes so simple, and the Pennsylvania crash look like
something that wasn't quite working so well and was canned? Why can't
the Pentagon crash be simple? Why can't a fake cover up operation be
responsible for making the disharmony around the Pentagon? Is it
easier to spread rumours of missiles, false fighter planes, confusion
about the Pentagon, than to actually craftily combine faked
airliners, missing passengers, missiles, phantom jets, blown out C
holes, hardly any damage to the building (claimed by no-757'ers),
along with the usual no pilot, remote controlled plane, no military
cover, late hijacking, tough manoevers, etc.

Pity the poor organizers of the Pentagon event were they to actually
have had to design and successfully run the Pentagon mission were the
no-757'ers to have their day. Bush tries to make us think Osama was a
smartie pants. These 911 perpetrators were terrorist prodigies. We
should be honouring them with Nobel Terrorist Prizes and get them to
design spaceships to the next galaxies for next year. They put
the "Zionists" to shame. They could do it in their sleep.

I suddenly feel very low in intelligence. I wish my daddy was a neo-
terrorist so that I'd been born with some brains.

Draggin knuckles, Robert

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, "mikemeyer1964"
<mike.meyer@...> wrote:
>
> It seems appropriate to repost an article I posted here a few weeks
> back. While many have debated the plane, no plane, plane but no
757
> theory, my write up below discusses certain damage that simply can
> not be explained by a 757 impact. Read on, I would be extremely
> interested if anyone can come up with a theory that explains the C-
> Ring exit hole.
>
> Mike Meyer
>
> Pentagon C Ring Exit Hole Mystery
>
> Detailed below is a revised write up [from "A Boeing 757 did not
hit
> the Pentagon"] regarding the unexplained Pentagon C-ring exit
hole.
> I have received valuable feedback on my previous write up, from
many
> 911 researchers. I have included numerous clarifications and
> details, and have directly addressed some of the main stream media
> explanations regarding the C-Ring Exit Hole.
>
> A great deal has been written about the damage to the Pentagon on
> 9/11. The focus of this discussion is on the mysterious, and
> officially unexplained, "C-Ring Exit Hole". The C-ring exit hole
is
> significant because it is not consistent with building damage from
a
> Boeing 757 impact. The C-Ring exit hole carries a unique
signature,
> which can only be explained by something other than a 757 impact.
> No explanation is offered for this hole in the Pentagon Building
> Performance Report
> http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf or the
official
> 9-11 Commission Report.
>
> The exterior C-ring wall is the last wall (the third wall traveling
> into the Pentagon) that sustained significant damage during the
> Pentagon attack. On 9/11, a near perfectly round, nine foot
> diameter hole was cut in the C-Ring wall, known as the "C-Ring exit
> hole". It is approximately 310 feet from the impact on the outer
> Pentagon wall (E-ring). The unique feature of this hole include:
> its circular shape, the clean cut hole in the wall with no visible
> damage to the wall immediately surrounding the hole, and steel
rebar
> is cut by the forces which created the hole. For an overview of
the
> hole, see this page: http://www.pentagonresearch.com/exit.html
>
> From the impact on the E-ring wall, to the C-ring Exit hole, is an
> open office space with only support columns and ordinary
> construction interior walls. According to the Building Performance
> Report, there were intact (but damaged) support columns starting at
> roughly 160 feet into the building in the aircraft flight path,
> indicating that the fuselage of the aircraft had effectively been
> destroyed by this point. The C-ring wall was constructed of steel
> mesh and rebar reinforced brick, 8 inches thick. Details are shown
> here. http://www.pentagonresearch.com/065.html
>
> The initial explanation offered was that nose cone/fuselage of the
> 757 aircraft punched all the way from the E-ring wall, to the C-
ring
> wall, to create this exit hole, the "nose cone" theory.
>
> The structural design of the 757 is based on the structural loads
of
> a pressurized vessel (the cabin), and the structural and
aerodynamic
> loads from the wings, control surfaces, and the fuel. The plane is
> made as light as possible, and not made to handle impact loads of
> any kind.
>
> This "nose cone" theory was quickly discounted as there was no
> significant aircraft wreckage found at the C-ring wall, nor would
an
> aircraft impact have cut a clean hole without disturbing any of the
> surrounding wall. There were also support columns still standing
in
> the flight path of the aircraft.
>
> Next, investigators from Purdue University proposed that fuel,
> airplane material, and momentum from the aircraft created this
> circular cut out by continuing into the building after the plane
had
> been destroyed. This "circle of energy" concept seems improbable
> for a number of reasons:
> 1. The airplane materials included the plane and fuel in the
> fuselage and wings. This material would have been spread out over
a
> non circular area which included the wings and fuselage.
> 2. There does not seem to be any historical precedent for this
> phenomenon to have occurred.
> 3. There were support columns that remained standing in the path
> between the impact point and the C-Ring exit hole that would have
> deflected parts of this "circle of energy".
> 4. The impact of this material would have knocked the wall down,
or
> caved it in due to the mesh and rebar reinforcement, not created a
> clean cut hole.
> To have this material and energy "form up" into a circle so as to
> cause this hole seems extremely unlikely. This "circle of energy"
> theory seems to have also been discounted.
>
> The National Geographic Channel aired a program "Seconds to
> Disaster" which depicted the events at the Pentagon on 9/11. This
> program aired most recently on May 24th 2006. They offered the
> following explanation for the C-Ring exit hole: secondary
explosions
> from the impact and jet fuel, coupled with the geometry of the
> inside of the impacted Pentagon, allowed shock waves to cause this
> circular hole.
>
> This "shock wave" concept also seems improbable for a number of
> reasons:
> 1. The interior section of the Pentagon where the 757 impacted was
> roughly 200 feet wide and deep with a significant hole from the 757
> impact. Air is a compressible gas, and the forces required to
knock
> down a mesh and rebar reinforced wall are substantial. Shock waves
> could certainly be present, but these shock waves would be in air,
> and would be spread throughout the interior section of the
> Pentagon. The hole in the C-Ring would require extremely localized
> forces; to have these shock waves form a clean cut circular hole,
> including cutting rebar, is extraordinarily remote.
> 2. Any forces impacting the wall from shock waves would be spread
> over some area of the wall. These forces would knock the wall down
> or crumple it if they were strong enough. These shock waves would
> also be influenced and deflected by the support columns. Once
> again, the clean cut hole defies the explanation of shock waves.
> 3. There does not seem to be any historical precedent for this to
> occur, as there are routinely secondary explosions during fires,
but
> this clean cut circle phenomena has not been reported elsewhere.
>
> Note: I asked to be put in contact with the authors of the "shock
> wave" theory, but the National Geographic Channel merely directed
me
> to the Pentagon Building Performance Report and to Pentagon
> reconstruction website as sources for the program. Neither of
these
> documents offers any explanation for the C-ring exit hole.
>
> So what other possibilities could there be for a hole which has
> these unique characteristics. I have previous with experience in
> shape charge warheads, and anyone with this experience would
> immediately recognize the hole to match that caused by a shaped
> charge warhead or device.
>
> The C-ring exit hole has these distinct features, which would have
> occurred if this wall was struck by some sort of shaped charge:
> 1. The hole is circular as the typical shaped charge warhead is
> round.
> 2. The hole is cleanly cut, in that the walls surrounding the hole
> do not appear to have suffered any visible forces as would be
> expected from the extremely localized and focused energy from the
> shaped charge warhead.
> 3. Windows are broken outside of the C-ring exit hole. Shock
waves
> from the shaped charge high explosive are strong enough to break
> typical glass (but not a reinforced brick wall).
> 4. The wall beyond the C-ring (towards the interior of the
> Pentagon) is relatively undamaged, only some light charring. The
> force of the shaped charge warhead is extremely localized and
> focused and would have dissipated shortly after it breached the C-
> Ring wall.
>
> What is a shape charge? In simple terms it is high explosives
> formed in a very specific geometry so that the explosive force is
> extremely focused. Some good general information is located here
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaped_charge . Look at the hole in
> reinforced concrete hole here
>
http://www.raytheon.com/products/stellent/groups/public/documents/con
> tent/cms04_011980.pdf
> You can see how the wall is undamaged except for the hole; also
note
> how the rebar is cut.
>
> Beyond the similarities in the hole shown in this brochure, are
> there any other details about the Pentagon that raise more
questions
> about the hole in the C-ring wall, yes. On Russell Pickering's web
> site www.pentagonresearch.com he has identified mistakes in the
> classification of damage to the Pentagon near the C-Ring exit
hole.
> In summary, the Pentagon Building Performance Report indicates
> gradual decreasing support column damage as you travel into the
> pentagon along the flight path, to where there is limited damage by
> the C-Ring exit hole, but this is incorrect, the column damage
> increases again near the C-Ring Exit hole. This would be
consistent
> with a shape charge warhead detonating near or at the C-Ring exit
> hole. See the detailed write up here.
> http://www.pentagonresearch.com/094.html
>
> Was the Pentagon Building Performance Report team allowed
> uncontrolled access to the site? Not even close, access was
limited
> and they were escorted, see excerpts from the Pentagon Building
> Performance Report here. http://www.pentagonresearch.com/bps.html
> Note that the Building Performance Report team was not allowed to
> see this exit hole, the FBI provided a photo and description. Why
> would this team not be allowed uncontrolled access to assess
> building damage? It should be noted that this team never saw any
> damage to the Pentagon until all of the wreckage and debris were
> removed.
>
> So how did a shaped charged warhead get this far into the
Pentagon?
> One possible explanation is a multi stage shaped charge warhead
> device. I do not propose that the following device was used at the
> Pentagon, but one such multi stage device is described here.
> http://www.llnl.gov/str/Coll.html
> A page or so into this site describes "a weapon called a PAM, or
> Penetration Augmented Munition". "Although compact and lightweight
> (approximately 35 pounds, 33 inches long), it contains the power of
> four explosive charges and when deployed, can effectively destroy
> bridges, runways, roads, and tunnels". It describes a technology
> where multiple shaped charges are used together, where the first
> charge creates a hole for a second, and so forth. The successive
> charges can be set off by separate sensors which detect the impact
> with a wall. If you were to design a "bunker buster" warhead where
> you had to penetrate multiple reinforced walls, this would be
> technology to utilize, to allow you to penetrate further into a
> multi walled structure than with a single shape charge warhead
> alone. Due to the lack of walls between the exterior E-ring wall
> and the C ring wall, it is likely that such a device would travel
> until it hit a support column. Hitting a support column at an
angle
> could serve to deflect slightly the trajectory of the device.
> Following this theory, the last charge struck the C-ring wall and
> created the C-Ring exit hole. Having the device follow a deflect
> path would also explain how there were still support columns in the
> direct path of the aircraft to the C-Ring exit hole.
>
> If something smaller than a 757 hit the Pentagon, a multi stage
> shape charge may have been part of the payload to increase the
> damage into the building, to better approximate the damage that
> would be envisioned by a larger 757. A shaped charge warhead would
> seem to be the only explanation that fits the evidence of a sudden
> increase in damage to the Pentagon near the C-Ring exit hole and
the
> C-ring exit hole itself.
>
> The only explanations offered by the "official" community,
> the "circle of energy" and the "shock wave theory", have no
> precedent, and violate some basic common sense and physics. My
> proposal fits the classic shape charge damage seen from a typical
> shaped charge warhead. The first time I saw the C-Ring exit hole,
a
> chill went down my spine because I knew that the only way to cut a
> clean hole in a reinforced brick wall (including cutting through
> rebar) is with a shaped charge warhead. With any type impact or
> wave, forces would have caused the wall to crumble or cave in,
> without cutting through rebar.
>
> Many people have claimed that there is no evidence to doubt the
> official version of events on 9/11. I guess that really depends on
> your definition of evidence. With the C-Ring exit hole, we have a
> hole that is clearly out of place with a 757 impact, we have
> investigators that are not permitted to see the hole, and we have
> damage near the hole not accurately presented in an official
> report. What is your threshold for simply accepting a story from
> the government?
>
> The C-ring Exit hole is but one small chapter in the unexplained
> events of 9/11. There are many other similar, unexplained events.
> Isn't the fact that our Republic was forever altered by the events
> on 9/11 require an investigation that puts to rest all of these
> questions, no matter where it leads?
>

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10c.: Re: seen the photos -evidence of elements that do not incinerate int

Posted by: "Richard Pierce" phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com phobicflyonthewall

Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:51 pm (PST)

rriverrapid is wasting everbody's time here. probably his intentions...

rriverrapid <rustrobert@hotmail.com> wrote: No, I didn't see much. I've been away on Mars for a short spell,
visitin' the old alien folks. Hey, you know where I can get that new
BeeGees forty five, Saturday Fever, or something like that? Heard it
on the way back here on the ship..... its hip, man. Oh, can I borrow
your bell bottoms for tonight? My squeeze is in town, and I mine old
ones got twisted in the warp drive. How's the Doobies doing? They
still hanging with Crosby? Gotta light for a bro? B..b..b..b..benny
and the Jets....

Groove it man, Robert

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Richard Pierce
<phobicflyonthewall@...> wrote:
>
> Did you see the videos of the airplanes hitting the twin towere???
Did you see the long holes left from the wings and the engines???
Now how come there was only a small-tiny hole right after the impact
on the pentagon???
>
> rriverrapid <rustrobert@...> wrote: Judy,
>
> Take a stroll through www.911review.com and 911research.com and you
> will find pictures showing airplane debris all over the place at
the
> Pentagon, including engine structures, wheels, landing gear, and
much
> more. Study how a high speed plane hitting an immoveable object in
a
> head on manner at high speed breaks up into small pieces, or
> disintegrates. Disintegrates doesn't mean turning completely and
> entirely into gas. Don't fill your mind with visions of that.
> Picture stronger plane parts breaking up considerably, but
> lightweight material being turned into small pieces, like chuncks
of
> metal a pound to ten in weight. The crash scene reveals this in
> pictures. We don't need to put claims in peoples mouths (such as
the
> governments mouth) that are not being made. Those folk in
government
> are people just like you and me. They don't have all the answers
> either, they are not wizards who know everything about science and
> technology, government workings, CIA operations, technical details
on
> plane crashes, and so forth. They do their job as best they can and
> know how, just like any person at a factory who does his/her part
in
> screwing the bolt in place, but has no idea how to make a full car,
> let alone run the factory that makes the car. To make a claim
> that "government is lying to us" is to make a claim that everyone
in
> government is intimately involved in the cover up. This is
> impossible. The only reasonable and rational conclusion is that
rogue
> elements within government and industry conspired to create 911,
and
> while everyone else just continued doing their jobs like they've
> always done. This is not a black and white, government is evil,
> people are good situation. It requires critical, careful
> investigation and understanding. Imagine being that worker in a car
> factory who desires to understand the entire workings of the
factory
> in order that they may design and fully operate another one. That
is
> essentially where the average person is regarding the 911 event's
> occurence. Are you prepared to do the deep investigation that is
> involved, and are you equipped or prepared intellectually to
> accomplish the task?
>
> We don't need to bring Eistein into 911. The pictures show all
sorts
> of easily seeable airplane debris all over the place at the
Pentagon.
> 911 doesn't require quantum physics in order to understand what
> happened, nor does 911 have to be made that complicated. The plane
> did not disintegrate into gas and making that claim is ingenuous,
> particularly in light of what the visual evidence clearly shows --
> airplane debris all over the place, consistent with a high speed
> airliner, a 757 specifically, hitting the highly reinforced, just
> completed,bomb proof Pentagon exterior wall at a 45 degree angle,
> creating a huge fuel explosion a second or two after the 757
started
> disintegrating (breaking up extremely violently and thoroughly).
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
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10d.: Re: seen the photos -evidence of elements that do not incinerate int

Posted by: "Richard Pierce" phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com phobicflyonthewall

Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:57 pm (PST)

More group disruption from rriver rat. Check it out. Or better yet, don't waste your time...

rriverrapid <rustrobert@hotmail.com> wrote: Whassa matta? I'll tell ya whassa matta. There was a reverse
antimatter window screen portolator injector on the window sill which
nobhobbled the nicknack below the high-set interfluxed resonator
rambelt jet. Duh!

In Plane Site English that means some friggin secret FBI bumb slipped
in there without being seen in the middle of day and put in a new
window to replace the old one that got cracked when the plane's rear
view mirror bounced off it. Man! Figure it out!! NOthin was left to
chance.

Pocket Rocket Robert

--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, Richard Pierce
<phobicflyonthewall@...> wrote:
>
> What's the matter with you??? The windows right beside the small-
tiny hole were not even broken right after the crash!?!?
>
> Nora Lenz <nmlenz@...> wrote: It pains me to point out
the obvious, but has it occurred to you that the towers and the
Pentagon were constructed of different materials?
> Nora
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Pierce
> To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Re: seen the photos -evidence of
elements that do not incinerate into gas
>
>
> Did you see the videos of the airplanes hitting the twin
towere??? Did you see the long holes left from the wings and the
engines??? Now how come there was only a small-tiny hole right after
the impact on the pentagon???
>
> rriverrapid <rustrobert@...> wrote: Judy,
>
> Take a stroll through www.911review.com and 911research.com and you
> will find pictures showing airplane debris all over the place at
the
> Pentagon, including engine structures, wheels, landing gear, and
much
> more. Study how a high speed plane hitting an immoveable object in
a
> head on manner at high speed breaks up into small pieces, or
> disintegrates. Disintegrates doesn't mean turning completely and
> entirely into gas. Don't fill your mind with visions of that.
> Picture stronger plane parts breaking up considerably, but
> lightweight material being turned into small pieces, like chuncks
of
> metal a pound to ten in weight. The crash scene reveals this in
> pictures. We don't need to put claims in peoples mouths (such as
the
> governments mouth) that are not being made. Those folk in
government
> are people just like you and me. They don't have all the answers
> either, they are not wizards who know everything about science and
> technology, government workings, CIA operations, technical details
on
> plane crashes, and so forth. They do their job as best they can and
> know how, just like any person at a factory who does his/her part
in
> screwing the bolt in place, but has no idea how to make a full car,
> let alone run the factory that makes the car. To make a claim
> that "government is lying to us" is to make a claim that everyone
in
> government is intimately involved in the cover up. This is
> impossible. The only reasonable and rational conclusion is that
rogue
> elements within government and industry conspired to create 911,
and
> while everyone else just continued doing their jobs like they've
> always done. This is not a black and white, government is evil,
> people are good situation. It requires critical, careful
> investigation and understanding. Imagine being that worker in a car
> factory who desires to understand the entire workings of the
factory
> in order that they may design and fully operate another one. That
is
> essentially where the average person is regarding the 911 event's
> occurence. Are you prepared to do the deep investigation that is
> involved, and are you equipped or prepared intellectually to
> accomplish the task?
>
> We don't need to bring Eistein into 911. The pictures show all
sorts
> of easily seeable airplane debris all over the place at the
Pentagon.
> 911 doesn't require quantum physics in order to understand what
> happened, nor does 911 have to be made that complicated. The plane
> did not disintegrate into gas and making that claim is ingenuous,
> particularly in light of what the visual evidence clearly shows --
> airplane debris all over the place, consistent with a high speed
> airliner, a 757 specifically, hitting the highly reinforced, just
> completed,bomb proof Pentagon exterior wall at a 45 degree angle,
> creating a huge fuel explosion a second or two after the 757
started
> disintegrating (breaking up extremely violently and thoroughly).
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
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11.: A Day in the Life: 6/23/6

Posted by: "President, USA Exile Govt." prez@usa-exile.org

Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:54 pm (PST)

GOVERNMENT OF THE USA IN EXILE
Free Americans
Reaching Out to Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free
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Via <prez@usa-exile.org>

June 23, 2006

NOTE: Thanks to Kevin Barrett below for such a spirited missive to the
lamentable US Secret Service. -- kl, pp

From: Kevin Barrett <khidria@merr.com>
Date: June 22, 2006 4:16:30 PM EST
To: MUJCA.3@gatorgraphics.net
Subject: MUJCA News: Deprogramming the Bush Cult, Hannity, CHE, an
Interfaith Conference, and the Secret Service

Tonight! Fetzer takes on Hannity
Jim Fetzer, co-founder of Scholars for 911 Truth�is SCHEDULED to be on
Fox News tonight (Thursday, June 22nd) with Hannity & Colmes, typically
9pm est.
�H&C site:�
http://www.foxnews.com/hannityandcolmes/index.html

Deprogramming the Bush Cult:
Understanding 9/11 Anxiety, Avoiding a National Jonestown
By Kevin Barrett, http://mujca.com
Synopsis: In �Apocalypse of Coercion� (Global Outlook #11, June 2006) I
used Douglas Rushkoff�s landmark book Coercion as a touchstone for
understanding 9/11 as a psychological warfare operation. Rushkoff�s
well-researched insights into the mind-control techniques of car
salesmen, spin doctors, cult leaders, and CIA psych-war specialists
explain how 9/11 was designed as a war-triggering �New Pearl Harbor.�
In the follow-up article �Deprogramming the Bush Cult� I use Marc
Galanter�s analysis of how cults control their followers to argue that
the 9/11 psy-op created a �Bush Cult� of war fever, pseudo-patriotism,
and unquestioning compliance with increasingly insane leadership. My
conclusion is that if we are to avoid a national Jonestown, we must
understand and expose the way anxiety-induction followed by
anxiety-reduction has been used to establish cult-like control of the
American people during the 9/11-initiated �war on terror.�
Full story:
http://mujca.com/bushcult.htm

MUJCA Coordinator Responds to Chronicle of Higher Education Article on
Chicago Conference
(For the Chronicle article, go to http://mujca.com/chronicle.htm and
scroll down)

To The Chronicle of Higher Education,

Given the pervasive media blackout, I appreciate John Gravois�s article
on the recent 9/11 truth conference in Chicago, which I helped
organize, almost as much as I appreciate the lunch Mr. Gravois bought
me on the Chronicle�s dime. A couple of items, however, stuck in my
craw.

The headline �Professors of Paranoia? Academics give a scholarly stamp
to 9/11 conspiracy theories� and the article that followed reek of the
kind of pejorative, loaded language that I have always taught
Composition students to avoid at all costs...
Full story:
http://mujca.com/chronicle.htm

Unquestioned Answers
Nonconspiracy theorist David Ray Griffin takes aim at the official 9-11
story
By Steve Bhaerman
Bohemian.com
[MUJCA-NET endorser Steve Bhaerman, a.k.a. Swami Beyondanonda--one of
the best writers in the 9/11 truth movement--has published a terrific
article on MUJCA's "founding endorser" David Ray Griffin for a Sonoma
County wine-country weekly. Don't miss it.]
http://bohemian.com/bohemian/06.14.06/david-ray-griffin-0624.html

9/11 to be marked by interfaith conference
By JANICE ARNOLD
Staff Reporter
http://www.cjnews.com/viewarticle.asp?id=9540

[Canadian MUJCA allies who can't make it to NY for the 5-year
anniversary should consider attending this conference and agitating for
9/11 truth. THERE IS NO FUTURE FOR INTERFAITH DIALOGUE WITHOUT 9/11
TRUTH!- KB]

MONTREAL - Representatives of religions from around the world will
gather in Montreal on the fifth anniversary of 9/11 for a conference
that aims to demonstrate that those of different beliefs can find
common ground.

Organziers of World�s Religions After September 11: A Global Congress,
to be held from Sept. 11 to 15 at the Palais des Congr�s, say their
goal � about 18 religions will be represented, including Judaism � is
to restore a more positive image of religion.

Congress president Arvind Sharma, the Birks professor of comparative
religion in McGill University�s religious studies faculty, said at the
official announcement of the event that the perception of religion in
general, not just Islam, has suffered as a result of the terrorist
attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

The arrest of 17 Muslim terrorist suspects in Toronto has only
underscored the need for reflection in an ecumenical spirit, he
added...

MUJCA Coordinator Questions Secret Service on Kentucky Gun Confiscation
http://mujca.com/secretservice.htm

emailed to: http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/contact_usss.shtml

Public Relations Office
United States Secret Service

To Whom It May Concern,

It has come to my attention that Michael Cook, a
Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth activist in Kentucky,
has been visited by four of your agents, and that his
lawfully-possessed firearms have been twice confiscated as the result
of an email statement Mr. Cook made concerning our twice-unelected,
World Trade Center destroying pseudo-President. Mr. Cook's email
statement made no threat, but simply predicted: "Eventually he (Bush)
will be shot for treason."

I am writing because I am concerned that Mr. Cook's statement may be
incorrect, and I wish to request Secret Service guidelines about how I
may correct Mr. Cook's mistake without running afoul of your agents.
As I understand it, the usual penalty for treason is hanging, not death
by firing squad. In that case, it is likely that Mr. Bush will be
hanged, not shot, for treason. By making this prediction, am I running
the risk of having my clothesline confiscated? I also think that there
is a real possibility that Mr. Bush will be electrocuted for the mass
murder of 2,500 Americans in the World Trade Center. By stating this,
am I risking a court order shutting off my electricity? I also foresee
a small but very real possibility that Mr. Bush will die in the gas
chamber. Does raising this possibility mean that my gas could be cut
off?

I appreciate the difficulty you guys must be having doing your job
right now, with tens of millions of Americans calling for Bush, Cheney,
Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and company to be prosecuted and (presumably)
executed for 9/11 high treason. With almost half the country believing
the official 9/11 story is a cover-up (Zogby poll, May 2006) it won't
be long before an overwhelming majority of Americans joins Mr. Cook in
eagerly anticipating Bush's execution--which will put you fellas in a
difficult position. Maybe it's time to save the country a lot of
heartache, and rat out whoever it was in the SS who kept Bush at that
school in Florida long after the second plane hit the building.

Thank you for your attention, and I look forward to not hearing from
you -- though if my clothesline disappears I'll know who it was.

Sincerely,
Kevin Barrett
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Edgewood College of Madison
Coordinator, Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth
http://mujca.com

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From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
Date: June 23, 2006 11:32:03 AM EST
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] Video: Fetzer on Fox News! tvnl news
Reply-To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com

9/11 News : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#911

� Jim Fetzer of Scholars for 911 Truth on Fox News
- TVNL Comment: VIDEO

� Thousands claim exposure in 9/11 aftermath - David Worby is now at
the helm of what he calls the largest and most important class-action
lawsuit in U.S. history, representing thousands of people he says are
dying at an accelerated pace from exposure to toxins at Ground Zero.

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From: "smacko" <smacko9@comcast.net>
Date: June 23, 2006 1:37:32 AM EST
To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [911TruthAction] WTC Black Boxes
Reply-To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com

December 19, 2005
A CounterPunch Special Report
Did the Bush Administration Lie to Congress and the 9/11 Commission?
9/11: Missing Black Boxes in World Trade Center Attacks Found by
Firefighters, Analyzed by NTSB, Concealed by FBI
By DAVE LINDORFF
http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff12202005.html

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From: Tim Barton <tim_decenter@yahoo.com>
Date: June 22, 2006 11:56:56 AM EST
To: _BlueGreenEarth Forum <bluegreenearth@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [bluegreenearth] The Next Oil Grab East Timor
Reply-To: bluegreenearth@yahoogroups.com

Dave <daves@phonecoop.coop> to mark-thomas

The Next Oil Grab East Timor

Any pretence of unbiased reporting about the East Timor coup seems to
have gone completely out of the window in the mainstream media. It's
obvious the Australian govenment and media have got their threatened
payback against the Alkatiri led government over the negotiation on
Timor Sea oil. The East Timorese are not even going to be allowed the
small gains they have achieved in the oil rights issue.

Classic divide and conquer techniques have been used to magnify the
slight ethnic differences between the Loro Sia (easterners) and Loro
Mono (westerners) by the Australian trained leader of 600 army deserters
Major Alfredo Reinado who has whipped up a dispute about promotion into
the ethnic cleansing of Dili.

The Prime Minister Mari Alkatiri is hounded with one unproven allegation
after another while the Foreign/Defence Minister Ramos Horta, the
Australians favourite, hob nobs with the army deserters who started the
troubles in April. Meanwhile President Xanana Gusmao, who is supposed to
uphold the constitution, is having cosy chats on the phone with the
deserters leader Major Alfredo Reinardo behind the back of the Prime
Minister.

Xanana and Ramos Horta have already claimed the scalps (in one case
almost literally) of two of their main political opponents Interior
Minister, Rogerio Tiago Lobato, and Defence Minister Roque Rodrigues now
they are trying again for Alkatiri.

In what seems a completely one sided version of the last two months
events, missing is the attempt on Alkatiri at a press conference by a
mob of thirty machete wielding thugs. The murder of six relatives of
Rogerio Lobato which appeared to be the start of the second wave of
violence at the end of May also is being written out of history. All the
emphasis is on the killing of nine police officers who were supporting
the deserters and had disarmed under UN protection after a gun battle.
While not pretending this incident was anything but deplorable it seems
it was in revenge for the killing of some F-FDTL (loyal to government)
soldiers, who were returning from collecting their pay, by the deserters
and an ambush by the deserters in Becora that had killed another F-FDTL
soldier. One of the people involved at Becora, according to journalist
David O'Shea, was Major Reinardo.

The reporting of who the victims are is also very skewed, whilst there
has been violence by both sides of the community by far the majority of
refugees seem to be people from Los Palos, Baucau and Viqueque according
to the UN.

Along with a confusing series of rumours over the last 24 hours about
Xanana asking for Alkairi's resignation the opposition have also sunk to
the most basic racism. At a demonstration yesterday they were handing
out fliers linking Alkatiri, a Muslim in the mostly Roman Catholic
country and a descendent of Yemeni immigrants, with al-Qaeda leader
Osama bin Laden. "We hate Mari Alkatiri. He is (a) descendent of bin
Laden and he is (b) terrorist and communist," the flier said, also
describing him as a "murderer" and "not pure Timorese." Although no one
explained how you can be in al-Qaeda (an organisation originally set up
to fight communists) and be a communist at the same time!

It looks as though the final push to get rid of Alkatiri is going on
today.

--
See Tyneside East Timor Solidarity at http://tets.sdf-eu.org/

www.bluegreenearth.com /
www.europeansocialecologyinstitute.org
global community, ecological, environmental and social
reportage, opinion and analysis + news, views and facts

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From: Henri the Celt <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Date: June 22, 2006 2:49:08 PM EST
To: AAAHenri <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Subject: Resume - George W. Bush

�rense.com

Resume - George W. Bush
6-21-6

Resume

GEORGE W. BUSH 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington , DC 20520

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE

LAW ENFORCEMENT

I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine , in 1976 for driving under the
influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's
license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost"
and is not available.

MILITARY

I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take
a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the
Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam

COLLEGE

I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a
cheerleader.

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business
in Midland , Texas , in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't
find any oil in Texas . The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold
all my stock.

I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took
land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our friends
in the oil industry, including Enron CEO Ken Lay, I was elected
governor of Texas .

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS

I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making
Texas the most polluted state in the Union .

During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden
city in America

I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions
in borrowed money.

I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American
history.

With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida , and my father's
appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by
over 500,000 votes.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT

I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a
criminal record.

I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one
billion dollars per week.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.

I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history.

I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any
12-month period.

I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the
U.S. stock market.

In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs
and that trend continues every month.

I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any
administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza
Rice, had a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S.
President. I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving
the most corporate campaign donations.

My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends,
Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in
U.S. History, Enron.

My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to
assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election
decision.

I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against
investigation or prosecution.

More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair
than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-
offs in history.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused
to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded
government contracts.

I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any
President in U.S. history.

I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in
the history of the United States government.

I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S.
history.

I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations
remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.

I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law. I refused to allow
inspectors access to U.S . "prisoners of war" detainees and thereby
have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.

I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).

I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any
President since the advent of television.

I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year
period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over
the worst security failure in U.S. history.

I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center
attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country
in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history.

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to
simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people),
shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of
mankind.

I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked,
pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I
did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S.
citizens, and the world community.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in
duty benefits for active duty troops and their families-in-wartime.

In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for
attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends.

I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and
security.

I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a
WMD. I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden
[sic] to justice.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's
library, sealed and unavailable for public view.

All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my
bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public
view.

All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President,
attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and
unavailable for publi c review. I am a member of the Republican Party.

PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN THE 2006 MIDTERM
ELECTIONS. PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY VOTER YOU KNOW.

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Date: June 22, 2006 12:30:50 AM EST
Subject: EON's Doc 'GOT DEMOCRACY?' Featured on LinkTV

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From: Rick Davis <rdavis@yin.or.jp>
Date: June 22, 2006 7:02:33 AM EST
Subject: Take the quiz!

How well can you tell Adolf Hitler and Ann Coulter apart?

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jac3he/GiveUpQuiz/hitlercoulterquiz.html

I tried it -- it's not easy!

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NOTE: Please do not overlook the significance of this report below.
-- kl, pp

From: "Amy Sasser" <amysasser@gmail.com>
Date: June 22, 2006 10:52:48 AM EST
To: mendelson@dccouncil.us, "Dawn Burt" <echokai@cox.net>, f
<editor@rawstory.com>, editor@agapepress.org, editor@tompaine.com,
editor@jewishpress.com, editor@free-times.com, press.int@aljazeera.net
Subject: The Astounding Leo

The
Astounding Leo Wanta $27 Trillion Banking Crisis:
Crunch
Time for the Banks and the Crooks
�
By Christopher Story
Editor, International Currency Review, London
WorldReports.org
6-21-6

LONDON, 21 June 2006 � The integrity of the international banking
system is on the line this week. This is because the behaviour of
certain banks is being closely watched by a team of informed observers
who are privy to scandals that the banks in question hope can still be
swept under their plush boardroom carpets.
�
Collectively, the scandals represent the most brazen attempt by banks
to seize the funds of their depositors, in history. The relevant
funds, which amounted � when fitfully paid out in 1989-93 � to about
$27.5 trillion, are now believed to be worth approaching $70 trillion.
They represent assets corralled on Presidential instructions by the US
Treasury's most distinguished Secret Service financial agent, Leo E.
Wanta. He remains the Trustor of these funds.
�
The financial war chest was amassed for geostrategic purposes at the
'end of the Cold War', after Mikhail Gorbach�v had received $10
billion via certain American-assisted international financial
transactions. He has since constructed a colossal headquarters campus
outside Moscow, with some of this money*.
�
As everyone knows, most scams require a counterparty. For the
international banks involved, their counterparty was, and remains, the
US intelligence community � or rather, corrupt elements thereof, led
by professional criminal intelligence 'barons' such as George Bush
Sr., and Bill Clinton.
�
Taking their cue from the example of such corrupt operatives, lesser
intelligence fry joined in � scamming billions from Wanta's fund,
which was organised in order to finance, at the supranational
(intergovernmental) level, the post-Cold War 'Global Security
Environment'. A key front man in this endeavour was Mikhail Gorbach�v,
whose 'Global Security Project' initiative was actually designed by Leo
Wanta himself, again of course on US Presidential instructions.
�
Scams are greatly facilitated when irregular parties share a common
interest. In this case, both the banks and corrupt elements of the US
intelligence community, neither of which of course owned any of these
funds, coveted the billions and trillions of dollars raised during
1989-92, for their own purposes.
�
The banks saw the funds as the answer to liquidity and prospective
solvency problems. They accordingly collateralised and
cross-collateralised the vast and rapidly expanding deposits placed
with them for safekeeping, and performed elaborate hypothecation
exercises, using the Trustor's funds as base.
�
Corrupt CIA operatives and fake CIA lawyers muscled in and, on the
basis of Powers of Attorney awarded to certain of their number by
questionable means, misappropriated, redirected and even stole
billions, with one or more fake CIA lawyers illegally placing the
Trustor's funds in foreign bank accounts under their own name.
�
Moreover the original funds were ransacked even as they were paid out
by the Federal Reserve, under the authority of the Fed's former
Chairman, Dr Alan Greenspan. An analysis published by International
Currency Review in February 2005 of the initial amounts which were
misdirected from the Fed, inter alia directly into private offshore
bank accounts, found that an estimated $742.5 billion had been
misappropriated .
�
Subsequent investigations have suggested that even this total is
understated.
�
But that was nothing to what happened later. In order to gain control
of these funds � supposedly assembled in order to make the world a
'safer place' after the 'end of the Cold War' � corrupt elements of US
intelligence, headed by President Clinton, set the ball rolling by
targeting the Trustor himself. Ordered by William Sessions, the head
of the FBI, to travel with intelligence aides to Switzerland in 1993
with a brief to arrest Marc Rich, Wanta was himself arrested and flung
into a stinking jail for 134 days � by the Swiss authorities. Almost
simultaneously, Clinton fired William Sessions without giving any
reason, and Vince Foster, an FBI informant who had been handling funds
'belonging' to the Children's Defense Fund, a CIA front for funny
money, was murdered in the Washington, DC area.
�
Wanta's effects, including 18 US Treasury instruments worth $18
billion, were removed from him � and the official assets worth $18
billion face value have disappeared. Following an urgent intervention
by the late Israeli Prime Minister, Yitzhak Rabin, Mr Wanta was
suddenly released, but was then taken, still in shackles, to Geneva
airport and flown to New York. After being frog-marched through
Kennedy, this distinguished and upright US Treasury intelligence
officer was arraigned before a judge on a trumped-up charge at the US
Eastern District Court of New York. The judge saw through the ruse and
threw the case out, but Leo Wanta was illegally re-arrested on the
courtroom steps without a warrant, on instructions from the Wisconsin
authorities.
�
The new false charge alleged that Wanta had failed to pay a tax bill
of about $14,000 that he did not owe, in Wisconsin state taxes, dating
back to 1982 � despite the fact that he had been living mainly abroad
on US intelligence business, working directly for the President of the
United States, for many years. He was accordingly extradited to
Wisconsin, where he was jailed.
�
During incarceration in that State and elsewhere, attempts were made
to have this distinguished US Treasury officer � still of course
Trustor of the original $27.5 trillion of intergovernmental funds and
the relevant accruals � declared insane. He underwent five so-called
'lunacy tests', his life being saved when a doctor of Chinese
extraction, no doubt familiar with similar abuses back in her home
country, refused to certify him. Had she done so, he would have been
sent to a Soviet-style 'psychiatric hospital' and never heard from
again.
�
After many vicissitudes, Leo Wanta was released into house arrest in
Wisconsin, where he languished for many further years. During this
time, he managed to raise the falsely charged state tax, which the
State of Wisconsin took � but 'lost'. With the help of friends, he
later raised the same amount again, and this time, the payment was
registered. But in the meantime vast additional penalties, fees and
other charges had accrued. His house was sold at a knock-down price
without his consent, and the proceeds stolen. In July 2005, a sum of
$30,626.97 made available by a friend, was paid in person by Mr
Wanta's lawyer to the court in Wisconsin; and on 14th November 2005,
he was released from all restrictions.
�
(Since this final payment included the false state tax bill for the
third time, it, too, has reportedly been misappropriated. The problem
faced by the Wisconsin authorities was how this payment could
legitimately be recorded. It couldn't).
�
It was only a matter of weeks before the significance of this
development started to trickle round the US intelligence community,
which, all of a sudden, faced an unprecedented problem.
�
For it emerged that the CIA had systematically lied that Leo Wanta
had long since been dead. This false information was of course
exploited by the many US intelligence crooks who had been making
illegitimate use of the Trustor's funds.
�
As for the banks, they likewise took maximum advantage of the CIA's
lie. If the Trustor was dead, then the banks could do what they liked
with the funds. So they used them for every off-balance-sheet ruse yet
invented by their financial engineers.
�
In other words, neither the banks nor the CIA ever thought that the
funds would be claimed. Imagine the cataclysmic shocks that
reverberated around the world's international banks when it began to
be rumoured late last year that, far from being long since dead, Leo
Wanta was alive and had gone to court to obtain a ruling on the
disposition of the assets.
�
These are held in offshore bank accounts belonging to so-called Title
18, Section 6 US Government intelligence community corporations. Such
entities were authorised by President Reagan in January 1981, under
Executive Order 12333.

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12a.: UN [black ops] cremation trucks/platoons now operating in Western US

Posted by: "Richard Pierce" phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com phobicflyonthewall

Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:05 pm (PST)

Don't know if all of this is true or not. Just passing it on...

> from: "John" <marinevet66to68@msn.com>
> Subject: UN [black ops] cremation trucks/platoons now operating in
> Western US
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:54:24 -0400
>
> Al Cuppett
>
> US Army & Action Officer, the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Retired)
> 366 Graves Mill Rd
> Madison, VA 22727
>
> 20 June 2006
>
> Subject: Intel report - (All Sources) UN "black operations" cremation
> trucks/platoons now operating in Western US.
>
> Source Reliability: Very High (report forwarded via "Q-Files")
>
> This report has been promulgated from "all sources"; however, the main
> source is a high ranking US military officer.
>
> Within the last three days a US Special Operations Unit, possibly
> operating **autonomously from J-3, the Joint Staff, and obviously
> separate from the Dept of Defense, Homeland Security, the NSC, and the
> White House, were reported trying to interdict two separate convoys of
> UN "Smokey" semi-trailers (18 wheelers); as they are now called.
>
> Professional deduction, and "intelligence indicators" over the past
> few months, in the absence of full particulars, reveals that the
> Special Ops unit became involved when it was learned that two convoys
> of UN trucks were proceeding from AO-Echo (Area of Operations Echo) in
> New Mexico, and another from AO-D which is Montana. The trucks were
> hauling detained personnel, and due to being discovered, were rapidly
> proceeding to Canada. The original mission was to stop the "Smokeys",
> not letting them reach the border, thus rescuing and then "debriefing"
> the detainees, who were known to be alive. Source further states this
> indicates that Red List pickups have begun prior to actual martial law
> declaration.
>
> The convoy from AO-E contained 18 trucks, whereas the convoy in AO-D
> had four trucks. One of the trucks was interdicted by US forces; with
> the crew being "neutralized". However, the detainees were all found
> dead. However, apparently the support column for that Smokey arrived
> and US forces withdrew due to superior UN forces; which projected, in
> "Pentagonese" an unacceptable attrition rate of US personnel.
>
> Be advised, the UN support units include about 5 or 6 white vans or
> SUVs, with approximately 30 fully armed personnel aboard. One van can
> be assumed to be a "Special Weapons Squad". The Smokeys will have at
> least 3 people in the front seat, and the support vehicles will be
> loaded with black uniformed, armed personnel.
>
> Source advised that all precautions must be taken if Smokey trucks are
> engaged, as support vans, if not present, will follow very shortly.
> Furthermore, the Smokeys can cremate their "human cargo" in record
> time. This report confirms the report last week of "cremation
> trailers" within the CONUS.
>
> The first engagement revealed there were armed French troops, along
> with armed German and Chinese Intelligence agents. Source reported
> that the foreign personnel were equipped with thermal imaging,
> Infra-red, and night vision equipment. This means the Red List pickups
> are being done at night; presumably on targets that are known to be
> "passive".
>
> Source states that Red Lists (for immediate extermination) are being
> "revised", that is, more names are being added to the "useless eater"
> category, since it is felt that many who were considered to be
> "re-educatable" must now be added to the Red or Blue Lists.
>
> The location of the shootout was not specified, but had to have been
> on a line from NM to the Canadian Border.
>
> Be advised the recent shooting in a Capitol parking garage was
> apparently a clash of various agents vying for preeminence. Capitol
> police were pulled from the scene. We have "arrived" folks! You'll
> recall an earlier report stated that foreign forces were staging in
> the DC area, with operations being planned before the end of August.
> ---- Forewarned is forearmed. Make Aliyah now. At least the cremation
> trucks haven't begun in Israel.
>
> Warm regards,
> Al Cuppett
>
> Bronze Star and Purple Heart Medals, et al, Vietnam, 1970-1971 (15
> months) Secretary of Defense Civilian Service Medal, the Joint Staff,
> 1990 (6 years) Joint Meritorious Unit Award, the Joint Staff, 1984-1990
>
> **The unit would have to be operating autonomously because Bush,
> Cheney, or Rumsfeld, Chertoff, or a "shadow government" operative,
> would have ordered the Special Ops force arrested/detained, if at all
> possible. The "civil war" as seen by the prophets of God, has
> apparently started. However, be advised there have been many
> "engagements" with UN units already!
> ____________________________________________________
>
> [FIRST REPORT]
>
> 1346 hrs (1:46 PM)
> 20 June 2006
>
> Subject: Preliminary Intel Report - UN CREMATION TRUCKS/PLATOONS
> OPERATING
>
> To: Bill
>
> Info to selected Believers/Observants. This is a preliminary report.
> Source reliability: HIGHEST
>
> Drafting final follow-up within the hour.
>
> UN Cremation trucks operating in NM and MT. Hit teams in platoon size,
> with vans and SUVs supporting 18 wheelers called "Smokey's", Guess
> why.? Human smoke is black!!! I watched the funeral home down the
> road. Auschwitz also had charcoal black smoke billowing out of it's
> chimneys almost 24 hours a day. The 4th Reich is now here..
>
> Long story. be alert. They have foreign troops and night ops
> equipment. Deduction: Red List pickup operations are NOW being run
> ---- at night. This and much more from high ranking active duty Flag
> Officer to follow.
>
> Comment: Be in prayer and/or be ready --- at night.
>
> More later
> Al Cuppett

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12b.: Re: UN [black ops] cremation trucks/platoons now operating in Wester

Posted by: "wag" wag@rosenet.net musketoon1

Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:17 pm (PST)

Definitely the Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg
Brown and Root are building several compounds
with concentration type Barracks
Who is Herr Busch going to concentrate in them???

From: Richard Pierce <phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:05:55 -0700 (PDT)
To: 911_free_discussion <911_free_discussion@yahoogroups.com>,
911TruthAction <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [911TruthAction] UN [black ops] cremation trucks/platoons now
operating in Western US

Don't know if all of this is true or not. Just passing it on...

> from: "John" <marinevet66to68@msn.com>

> Subject: UN [black ops] cremation trucks/platoons now operating in
> Western US
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:54:24 -0400
>
> Al Cuppett
>
> US Army & Action Officer, the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Retired)
> 366 Graves Mill Rd
> Madison, VA 22727
>
> 20 June 2006
>
> Subject: Intel report - (All Sources) UN "black operations" cremation
> trucks/platoons now operating in Western US.
>
> Source Reliability: Very High (report forwarded via "Q-Files")
>
> This report has been promulgated from "all sources"; however, the main
> source is a high ranking US military officer.
>
> Within the last three days a US Special Operations Unit, possibly
> operating **autonomously from J-3, the Joint Staff, and obviously
> separate from the Dept of Defense, Homeland Security, the NSC, and the
> White House, were reported trying to interdict two separate convoys of
> UN "Smokey" semi-trailers (18 wheelers); as they are now called.
>
> Professional deduction, and "intelligence indicators" over the past
> few months, in the absence of full particulars, reveals that the
> Special Ops unit became involved when it was learned that two convoys
> of UN trucks were proceeding from AO-Echo (Area of Operations Echo) in
> New Mexico, and another from AO-D which is Montana. The trucks were
> hauling detained personnel, and due to being discovered, were rapidly
> proceeding to Canada. The original mission was to stop the "Smokeys",
> not letting them reach the border, thus rescuing and then "debriefing"
> the detainees, who were known to be alive. Source further states this
> indicates that Red List pickups have begun prior to actual martial law
> declaration.
>
> The convoy from AO-E contained 18 trucks, whereas the convoy in AO-D
> had four trucks. One of the trucks was interdicted by US forces; with
> the crew being "neutralized". However, the detainees were all found
> dead. However, apparently the support column for that Smokey arrived
> and US forces withdrew due to superior UN forces; which projected, in
> "Pentagonese" an unacceptable attrition rate of US personnel.
>
> Be advised, the UN support units include about 5 or 6 white vans or
> SUVs, with approximately 30 fully armed personnel aboard. One van can
> be assumed to be a "Special Weapons Squad". The Smokeys will have at
> least 3 people in the front seat, and the support vehicles will be
> loaded with black uniformed, armed personnel.
>
> Source advised that all precautions must be taken if Smokey trucks are
> engaged, as support vans, if not present, will follow very shortly.
> Furthermore, the Smokeys can cremate their "human cargo" in record
> time. This report confirms the report last week of "cremation
> trailers" within the CONUS.
>
> The first engagement revealed there were armed French troops, along
> with armed German and Chinese Intelligence agents. Source reported
> that the foreign personnel were equipped with thermal imaging,
> Infra-red, and night vision equipment. This means the Red List pickups
> are being done at night; presumably on targets that are known to be
> "passive".
>
> Source states that Red Lists (for immediate extermination) are being
> "revised", that is, more names are being added to the "useless eater"
> category, since it is felt that many who were considered to be
> "re-educatable" must now be added to the Red or Blue Lists.
>
> The location of the shootout was not specified, but had to have been
> on a line from NM to the Canadian Border.
>
> Be advised the recent shooting in a Capitol parking garage was
> apparently a clash of various agents vying for preeminence. Capitol
> police were pulled from the scene. We have "arrived" folks! You'll
> recall an earlier report stated that foreign forces were staging in
> the DC area, with operations being planned before the end of August.
> ---- Forewarned is forearmed. Make Aliyah now. At least the cremation
> trucks haven't begun in Israel.
>
> Warm regards,
> Al Cuppett
>
> Bronze Star and Purple Heart Medals, et al, Vietnam, 1970-1971 (15
> months) Secretary of Defense Civilian Service Medal, the Joint Staff,
> 1990 (6 years) Joint Meritorious Unit Award, the Joint Staff, 1984-1990
>
> **The unit would have to be operating autonomously because Bush,
> Cheney, or Rumsfeld, Chertoff, or a "shadow government" operative,
> would have ordered the Special Ops force arrested/detained, if at all
> possible. The "civil war" as seen by the prophets of God, has
> apparently started. However, be advised there have been many
> "engagements" with UN units already!
> ____________________________________________________
>
> [FIRST REPORT]
>
> 1346 hrs (1:46 PM)
> 20 June 2006
>
> Subject: Preliminary Intel Report - UN CREMATION TRUCKS/PLATOONS
> OPERATING
>
> To: Bill
>
> Info to selected Believers/Observants. This is a preliminary report.
> Source reliability: HIGHEST
>
> Drafting final follow-up within the hour.
>
> UN Cremation trucks operating in NM and MT. Hit teams in platoon size,
> with vans and SUVs supporting 18 wheelers called "Smokey's", Guess
> why.? Human smoke is black!!! I watched the funeral home down the
> road. Auschwitz also had charcoal black smoke billowing out of it's
> chimneys almost 24 hours a day. The 4th Reich is now here..
>
> Long story. be alert. They have foreign troops and night ops
> equipment. Deduction: Red List pickup operations are NOW being run
> ---- at night. This and much more from high ranking active duty Flag
> Officer to follow.
>
> Comment: Be in prayer and/or be ready --- at night.
>
> More later
> Al Cuppett

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13a.: Fwd: Sears Tower Arrests: US Government Creates Another Al-Qaeda Cel

Posted by: "Richard Pierce" phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com phobicflyonthewall

Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:26 pm (PST)

Paul Joseph Watson <watson@prisonplanet.com> wrote:

Sears Tower Arrests: US Government Creates Another Al-Qaeda Cell
Entrapment method used again to frighten Americans into submission
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 23 2006
Hot on the heels of a rash of staged terror alerts in both Britain and Canada, the announcement that seven men were arrested for planning to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago and other prominent buildings is already taking the shape of another US government manufactured Al-Qaeda punch and judy show.
As is usually the case, the alleged ringleader Nassir Batiste's family and friends are aghast that he could have any terrorist connections and uniformly deny the plausibility of and Al-Qaeda connection, describing him as a simple construction worker and a "nice guy." Here are some excerpts from a CNN piece which you can view below.
ARIANE WEBSTER, SUSPECT'S GRANDMOTHER: I'm -- truly down in my heart I believe that's a stone lie. I been knowing Nassir (ph) better than five years. I never know him to get in any trouble. I never know him to have any problem with anybody. I always know him, he taught my son how to do karate. I have a son that is 18 years old. When he first met my son, my son was only about ...
ANDREWS (reporter) : So you don't think he's a terrorist, as the government's alleging?
WEBSTER: No, I don't. I really don't believe that.
MASTER G.H.G. ATHEA, SUSPECT'S FRIEND: Someone along the line offered to him some funds to do whatever he wanted to do if that's what he wanted to do. As far as some subversive work. And said they would give him whatever he needed.
CLICK HERE TO WATCH THE VIDEO
ANDREWS: So somebody had approached him to give him money to blow up buildings?
ATHEA: To do whatever he wanted to do. But that was far from his mind. So he had no desire to interact with these men to accept anything they had to offer.
ANDREWS: So bottom line here, is your friend a terrorist?
ATHEA: No, he's not. Absolutely not.
The key comment here is from the suspects friend. It clearly looks as if the "someone" who tried to bend his ear and convince him to join Al-Qaeda was acting on behalf of the US government and running an entrapment sting.
Entrapment is the primary method used to expose supposed Al-Qaeda cells, the evidence of which they were dangerous terrorists later dissolves into thin air in every single instance. It was used in the Canadian scare earlier this month and also recently in the Toledo arrests.
Attorney General Gonzales said that "the individual they thought was a member of al-Qaida was present at their meetings and in actuality he was working with the South Florida Joint Terrorism Task Force."
This is classic entrapment and the artificial manufacture of an Al-Qaeda boogeyman to wave in front of the American people.
Batiste was most likely told that he was part of an anti-terror drill to test the security of Chicago landmarks and that he had to recruit a mock group of followers. Either that or he was a hand-picked idiot who had severe mental deficiencies and couldn't spot and obvious set-up.

One of the repeating elements to emerge from every major terror sting or forged terror alert is the use of retarded individuals as patsies, informants and go-betweens. The terror raid in Forest Gate three weeks ago in which an innocent man was shot by the police was conducted on the whim of information provided by a man with an IQ of just 69.
Similarly, it was reported today that the informant who sparked interest in alleged Ottawa terrorist Mohamed Harkat was "certifiably insane."
The group used by the FBI to bomb the World Trade Center in 1993 were also clinically retarded. It's easier to frame people who lack any credibility and don't have any means to eloquently defend themselves.
Don't be surprised to learn of a connection to a retarded individual over the next few days.
We shouldn't be lapse in our understanding that the Sears Tower is indeed the target of deranged terrorist masters who want to destroy America. Internet speculation that the landmark would be attacked on April 19, 2004 was rubbished by many and yet a derailing of the plot was quietly announced that very day yet given no play in the establishment media.
In March 2004, Silverstein Properties bought the tower in an $800 million deal. Larry Silverstein's penchant for large insurance pay outs, coupled with the strange coincidence of buildings only owned by him collapsing on 9/11, makes for a dangerous combination.
The Sears Tower is indeed under threat - not from government created patsies, but the elite itself.

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13b.: Re: Fwd: Sears Tower Arrests: US Government Creates Another Al-Qaeda

Posted by: "wag" wag@rosenet.net musketoon1

Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:05 pm (PST)

I watched FOX this morning while on dialysis
and it is obvious that a mole hill is being made
into a mountain. Just a bunch of incompetent
black wannabes who might be able to get
enough ammonium nitrate and a cap to
blow up a bus but not a building.
Al Qeda would have heard of them and
didn't finance them so it is obvious what
the Arabs thought of them.
The danger of that bunch is like I said to
blow up and wreck a bus by getting into the
bus barn at night and setting up several
to go off about the same time by using cheap
alarm clocks ammonium nitrate and aluminum
powder and there are several ways to detonate
them.
Wendell
Wendell

From: Richard Pierce <phobicflyonthewall@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:22:39 -0700 (PDT)
To: Apfn-1 <apfn-1@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [911TruthAction] Fwd: Sears Tower Arrests: US Government Creates
Another Al-Qaeda Cell

Paul Joseph Watson <watson@prisonplanet.com> wrote:

Sears Tower Arrests: US Government Creates Another Al-Qaeda Cell
Entrapment method used again to frighten Americans into submission

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 23 2006
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html>

Hot on the heels of a rash of staged terror alerts in both Britain and
Canada, the announcement that seven men were arrested for planning to blow
up the Sears Tower in Chicago and other prominent buildings is already
taking the shape of another US government manufactured Al-Qaeda punch and
judy show.

As is usually the case, the alleged ringleader Nassir Batiste's family and
friends are aghast that he could have any terrorist connections and
uniformly deny the plausibility of and Al-Qaeda connection, describing him
as a simple construction worker and a "nice guy." Here are some excerpts
from a CNN piece which you can view below.

ARIANE WEBSTER, SUSPECT'S GRANDMOTHER: I'm -- truly down in my heart I
believe that's a stone lie. I been knowing Nassir (ph) better than five
years. I never know him to get in any trouble. I never know him to have any
problem with anybody. I always know him, he taught my son how to do karate.
I have a son that is 18 years old. When he first met my son, my son was only
about ...

ANDREWS (reporter) : So you don't think he's a terrorist, as the
government's alleging?

WEBSTER: No, I don't. I really don't believe that.

MASTER G.H.G. ATHEA, SUSPECT'S FRIEND: Someone along the line offered to him
some funds to do whatever he wanted to do if that's what he wanted to do. As
far as some subversive work. And said they would give him whatever he
needed.

CLICK HERE TO WATCH THE VIDEO
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/230606searstower.htm>

ANDREWS: So somebody had approached him to give him money to blow up
buildings?

ATHEA: To do whatever he wanted to do. But that was far from his mind. So he
had no desire to interact with these men to accept anything they had to
offer.

ANDREWS: So bottom line here, is your friend a terrorist?

ATHEA: No, he's not. Absolutely not.

The key comment here is from the suspects friend. It clearly looks as if the
"someone" who tried to bend his ear and convince him to join Al-Qaeda was
acting on behalf of the US government and running an entrapment sting.

Entrapment is the primary method used to expose supposed Al-Qaeda cells, the
evidence of which they were dangerous terrorists later dissolves into thin
air in every single instance. It was used in the Canadian scare earlier this
month and also recently in the Toledo arrests.

Attorney General Gonzales said that "the individual they thought was a
member of al-Qaida was present at their meetings and in actuality he was
working with the South Florida Joint Terrorism Task Force."

This is classic entrapment and the artificial manufacture of an Al-Qaeda
boogeyman to wave in front of the American people.

Batiste was most likely told that he was part of an anti-terror drill to
test the security of Chicago landmarks and that he had to recruit a mock
group of followers. Either that or he was a hand-picked idiot who had severe
mental deficiencies and couldn't spot and obvious set-up.

One of the repeating elements to emerge from every major terror sting or
forged terror alert is the use of retarded individuals as patsies,
informants and go-betweens. The terror raid in Forest Gate three weeks ago
in which an innocent man was shot by the police was conducted on the whim of
information provided by a man with an IQ of just 69.

Similarly, it was reported today that the informant who sparked interest in
alleged Ottawa terrorist Mohamed Harkat was "certifiably insane."

The group used by the FBI to bomb the World Trade Center in 1993 were also
clinically retarded. It's easier to frame people who lack any credibility
and don't have any means to eloquently defend themselves.

Don't be surprised to learn of a connection to a retarded individual over
the next few days.

We shouldn't be lapse in our understanding that the Sears Tower is indeed
the target of deranged terrorist masters who want to destroy America.
Internet speculation that the landmark would be attacked on April 19, 2004
was rubbished by many and yet a derailing of the plot was quietly announced
that very day yet given no play in the establishment media.

In March 2004, Silverstein Properties bought the tower in an $800 million
deal. Larry Silverstein's penchant for large insurance pay outs, coupled
with the strange coincidence of buildings only owned by him collapsing on
9/11, makes for a dangerous combination.

The Sears Tower is indeed under threat - not from government created
patsies, but the elite itself.

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14.: just a thought

Posted by: "smacko" smacko9@comcast.net drsmacko

Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:44 pm (PST)

does finally identifying One disinfo alias and remedying that singular snafu, constitute adequete solution to the ongoing problematic threat of the remaining alias tagteamers ridiculing such attempted solutions, right in the wake of the supposedly disposed of disposable alias disinfo tagteamer?

Is there a better, surer, more efficient way out of this current 'Intelligence Failure' knot noose necked we sway?
(albeit while insuring Just/Fair/Accountable means/ends pertaining to the mandate of this board and the 9/11 Accountability friends who've joined such to use such to administer IT's said manadate as described)

just a thought, or two ...

Q;o)

Police The Police is the way toward the Justice/Accountability we seek! ... that's how IT works!

It's how we crawl out of this hole we find ourselves tossed into

also note -
Offense! Pro-Active! Must climb Above the interference field ployed against us ... rather than merely continuing to 'field' it

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15.: Re: The missing wings at the pentagon

Posted by: "Pay_the_Piper" pay_the_piper@shaw.ca

Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:44 pm (PST)

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From: sithgmail
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Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] Re: The missing wings at the pentagon

You're spending a lot of time trying to convince everyone of something without offering cold hard facts. As I read through your rather verbose posts, I get the same sensation as many here get from listening to Fox News.

So, since you so strongly believe that Flight 77 struck the Pentagon, can you answer a few questions for me? My brain has so obviously been filled with fantastical information and lies that I just cant separate fact from fiction anymore... if you could help, I'd appreciate it.

Here are the questions I need answers to:

(please provide documentation with your answers so that I may verify that it is coming from credible original sources and not just some fantasy in your mind.)

1) What parts of the aircraft that were found at the scene were able to be identified using the serial numbers, thus definitively identifying the aircraft from which they came?

2) What actual evidence is there that proves Hani Hanjour was on flight 77?

PtP - Was he the alleged terrorist on 77? Good point about terrorist DNA. Gotta wonder if it could not be recovered from that crash.
Also the crash in PA. Part of putting the public mind at ease.

PtP

He is not listed on the flight manifest, his DNA was not recovered and there are no videos of him boarding said flight. If he boarded the plane using an alias, what alias did he use and where is that information located? Furthermore, if he boarded using an alias, how do we know who exactly was the person to use the alias?

3) Dick Cheney was in his bunker in DC before flight 77 struck the Pentagon. According to Richard Minetta's testimony, an aide came into the room and said to Cheney, "The plane is 30 miles out, sir.." then, "the plane is 20 miles out, sir..." and then, "the plane is 10 miles out, sir, do the orders still stand?" To which Cheney replied by "whipping his head around" and saying "Of course the orders still stand! Did you hear anything to the contrary??"

My question is - what were those orders? Since we know the orders were "standing" less than ten minutes before the plane struck the building, then we can safely assume they were carried out as planned. We can rule out that the orders were to intercept and shoot down the plane, as that did not happen. So what were they?

4) Also the phrase "ten miles out.." implies that the destination of the aircraft was known. How can you say a plane is ten miles out if you do not know where it is going? Ten miles outside of DC? If the aircraft was hijacked, then how did they KNOW it was going to DC? If they knew it was going to DC why did they not evacuate the target buildings, or any governmental facility for that matter?

anyway, back to the Pentagon -

5) If you can use eyewitness accounts as "evidence", then you must accept ALL eyewitness accounts, not simply pick and choose the ones that fit your predetermined ideas. There are many witnesses who say the saw flight 77, some say they saw a military jet, some say a commuter jet and some say a missile. Some even claim to have seen all of these and also the white C-130 that was flying overhead right about the time of the impact (according to Kean Commission report). Ergo - some people saw a missle, there must have been one, by your own logic.

6) For a 757 to have impacted between the first and second floors of the building, the engines would HAD to have struck the cable spools. How do you explain this phenomenon? The Perdue (Purdue? I forget which is chicken and which is school.. lol) University study that tried to demonstrate how the plane could have struck the building and left the damage that was visible, had to remove the engines in order for the study to work. So, what we are left with from that report is - "Yes.. a 757 with no engines struck the Pentagon.." or.. "The dual engines of the 757 that struck the Pentagon, in a wild flash of inspired foreknowledge, lept off the wings and hid themselves far away to avoid being vaporized by the impact!!!" As you can plainly see, it does not add up to common sense. So..what happened to the engines?

7) Can you prove that the objects in the released video footage from the parking lot cameras are in fact flight 77? If so, how? (I mean prove with evidence, dont just say "because i see it!!", that doesnt cut the mustard!)

8) The object in the first video of the impact clearly shows a white vapor trail behind the object moving towards the building. 757's do not leave white vapor trails behind them. So explain this? (and again, with evidence, not psychobabble.)

9) Did you know that missiles leave white vapor trails behind them? (simple yes or no will do, kthx.)

10) You seem educated, well read, seemingly well versed in psychology - not the profile of someone who does not work and sits around on the computer all day. Yet.. you have an amazing gift for prioritizing your time and leaving yourself hours each day to write long, prolific (albeit sadly bereft of useful information) emails to this group and most likely others as well. What is it that you do, exactly.. as in your career? I'm intrigued.

In summation, Robert.. the fact is that we do not know, for an absolute fact, what did or did not hit the Pentagon on 9/11. There is circumstantial evidence pointing in many different directions, but nothing concrete.

In that event, questions must be asked and information sought. That is my goal. To find out, once and for all, without doubt, what really struck that building. If it was indeed Flight 77, then there should be ample evidence to prove that clearly. If you do not hold that evidence, then you really cannot go around telling others that they're wrong for doubting the Kean Commission's story.

So.. as they say. put up, or shut up.

Cait
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From: rriverrapid
Date: 06/22/06 16:19:54
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [911TruthAction] Re: The missing wings at the pentagon

Sorry for offending if I indulge too much, and I admit to indulging
most willingly and forthrightly. I'm not perfect even as its a goal I
strive for, but know I can't attain. I speak to the writers of the
Longspaugh paper, or article, or whatever it is.

Pursuing the fantasy of no-757 at the Pentagon is playing into the
hands of those that committed the crime.

To fantasize about no-757 is to fantasize that hundreds of witnesses
are all making up stories and lying. The no-757 claim cannot exist
as a theory if it doesn't explain each and every last eyewitness
report.

Among many other things, the no-757 fantasy must also explain why
nobody has reported suspicious planting of evidence, such as heavy
engine parts, landing gear, thousands upon thousands of fuselage and
skin pieces raining down and covering the area around the building,
and appearing all over the place.

The no-757 fantasy must explain how so many hundreds if not
thousands of people could be involved in a cover up on just the
pentagon event without a word leaking out from a frustrated
participant, or turncoat. I guess those Pentagon people are beyond
perfect and beyond human behaviour that's ruled human society since
civilized humans were around.

It must also explain why the damage to the building both inside and
outside looks exactly like a 757 hit the building, as much
photographic evidence shows.

Just a brief look at the extent of the damage on one of the 900 foot
long sides of the Pentagon indicates, with all the blackened marks
from fuel burning and defaced and destroyed Pentagon wall, along with
massive interior damage, reveals a large plane hit the Pentagon, not
a mosquito.

The fantasy claim must also explain why the hundreds of people in the
area gave direct eyewitness reports of a 757 hitting the Pentagon,
while all seeming to miss out on the fact that the 757 didn't
actually hit, but flew invisibly over the Pentagon in a near miss and
landed at the nearby Reagan Airport, where noone else there saw it
land or take off or do anything either. A camera didn't even catch
it, though that won't stop anyone from making a claim that cameras
caught a missile hitting the Pentagon so the almighty bad government
won't show us that one.

So we're to reject hundreds of eyewitness claims in favour of some
mislead researcher who lives in some other state who never was there
but who thinks he knows exactly how a plane crash into the Pentagon
should look because he's a scientific expert and something does't
make sense about the crash because the wings are so big and the
building is so small and he's neglected to consider some important
evidence like eyewitness testimony, proven to be very dependable when
large groups say the same thing, consistently. Two hundred people
saying he ran him over, I saw the fast moving car, the driver, the
approach, the hit, the crush, the blood and guts, and the crash of
the car into the pole afterwards, means that a guy got run over by a
car and died. We don't need a doctorate telling us how the car paint
wasn't damaged enough so the guy couldn't have died from the impact,
It must have been something else, you all saw things. Don't listen
to your senses, they are wrong, my speculation inspired calculations
prove it here.

The Pentagon is a huge massive building and the plane hit the
strongest, just recently reinforced part. One side of the Pentagon is
just over 900 feet long. It's around 80 feet hight. A 757 airliner
is a long, skinny, fragile tube connected to a structurally strong
wing truss that is exceedingly poorly designed to withstand crashing
at 350 mph into a 2 foot thick concrete and rock wall that's
reinforced with tons and tons of high strength steel. The Pentagon
was not made out of Balsa wood, even as it's outer wall at the first
floor level gave in along a lenght of over 95 feet and the whole side
eventually caved in. Wouldn't that be expected of an intense 757
crash into a building as big and strongly built as the Pentagon?

The wings of the 757 hit almost directly into the floor slab level of
the 2nd floor, but slightly lower than the centerline of the slab, as
photos clearly show. The slab is a foot thick, reinforced with tonnes
upon tonnes of steel, inluding beams, and extends into the building
by a long ways. The wings will undergo immense destruction as they
plow into this incredibly immoveable and strong slab. The wings will
be directed downwards, into the space below the slab, which is the
first floor area, where dozens of concrete steel reinforced bomb
proof colums await them. The wings will shatter into mostly
unrecognizeable small pieces.

Those that favour the no-757 theory appear to love speculation,
directing their investigations and conclusions on fanciful,
unrealistic speculation, irregardless of what the bulk of the
evidence is clearly saying. They have a propensity for ignoring
evidence that doesn't suit their speculations, which is a recipe for
living in belief driven fantasy and eternal nonsense.

Speculation can be used to direct investigation, but it needs to be
used wisely. Investigators must still use the known to pry
information from the unknown, not let speculation drive imaginative
theories supported by pumped up psuedo-science.

Specifically, if over 200 average human beings who have nothing
apparent to hide, who are just like you or me or any other person,
all say consistently, within the shocking state of affairs going on,
that a 757 flew towards and then crashed into the Pentagon, then that
can be used as a KNOWN. It is a known. For it to not be a known, then
a fantasy needs to be invented where 200 people are deceived all at
once by their own eyes, while some person with a lame
brained "scientific" analysis is considered to be much more
dependable because.....gee, I don't know. Just because. Because,
because, because. Because it fits someone's speculative conclusions
really well. Yeah.... there was no plane at the Pentagon, now that I
think about it.... There wasn't one because some government bad guys
are the ones who really pulled off 911 and we need some evidence so
lets make it that a missile hit the Pentagon instead of a plane.
Yeah, the military is all corrupt, every one of the tens of thousands
that work there in the Pentagon and around the Pentagon. They'll
never speak up all those military types. They're clicky, sticking to
their stories like.... hmm.... people from the eastern end of the
Mediterranean, and worse! Oh, and plus, which proves me even more
right, the media are all saying it was a plane, and we know the media
is all corrupt and only says what Bush tells them to say. The media
isn't made up of average people like you and me. They are part of the
conspiracy. Wow, there sure are a lot of people in this coverup. It
almost seems like I'm the only guy in Washing D.C. and the whole
country that didn't know about it beforehand. Those tricky guys. I
sure have my work cut out for me, convincing all those conspirators
to quit acting like conspirators and start making peace in the world.
Stop voting for Bush all you bad people. Vote for my guy instead. If
a couple of you'd only have voted for my guy last electoin, we'd not
be in this mess you put me in.

Cherished beliefs like the no-757 fantasy are tough for a believer to
relinquish, but it is very necessary for truthful discovery and
correct resolution of crimes.

The writers of the article I am writing this email in reply to are
living in speculation and belief driven investigation and conclusion
making.

They start off mentioning there's a lack of expected debris. Well,
lets see their evidence for that before they go dancing off with
fancy fairy tales using five dollar scientific words to impress the
masses of believers. Dozens of pictures, for those willing to look
closely, show tons of debris, of many sizes, but mostly smaller
sizes, due to the obvious extremely destructive nature of the
collision of a fragile high speed plane meeting an immobile, highly
reinforced, concrete and rock structure.

They then immediately make claims about a hole not being big enough.
Clear photo evidence shows a Pentagon wall punched out for at least
95 feet along the first floor, and a huge 17 foot diameter hole
extendng a fair bit into the floor above, plus massive damage to a
floor slab in between the two, plus much wall damage around the area
Is that not enough of a hole? What would be enough? The whole
Pentagon collapsing? The Pentagon isn't a flimsy stack of cards. Why
don't these speculators first try flying a plane into a concrete wall
at around 350 miles per hour head-on to help themselves get an idea
of what happens to a plane when it does that, before they make their
intellectual scientific claims that no plane hit? But heck, they can
skip that, since the data already exists (F4 Phanton test) that shows
how a high speed plane tends to disintegrate when hitting an
immoveable object. But, oops, maybe that would interfere with their
speculation driven conclusions and prevent them from misleading
people using psuedo science and gaining fame and glory, or whatever
it is their lookin' for. Maybe those pictures are not what we really
see. Of course it doesn't look like what we "expected". We don't see
those things happen everyday. What did they expect to see. No damage?
The plane fly right through the building and emerge out the other
side, unharmed, like Wiley Coyote when he falls of a cliff and hits
the ground? A dent in the nose, and a broken window? The entire
Pentagon go up in a cloud of smoke, and the super strong titanium
tube of an airplane circle around for a run at the White House?

They ignore evidence, then because they've ignored it, they claim
there is a problem, which only their profound insight and
intellectual ability is powerful enough to solve using speculation
and assumptions, that somehow hold more water than actual eyewitness
testimony that's based on the use of dependable senses like sight,
hearing, touch, and feeling. Oh, but that is not real. Calculations
and endless speculations are real. Trust them. They know what they
are not doing.

These fellows have all hopped on the bandwagon of false promises and
wishful speculation that started out early after 911.

It's enough that the plane suspiciously hit the reinforced section of
the Pentagon. Or that it was claimed to be flown by a frail guy with
poor English skills who really couldn't fly. Or that the plane
displayed all the hallmarks of a remote controlled flight. Or that
the missiles all around the area didn't shoot the plane down while it
circled around the area after everyone knew it was hijacked half an
hour earlier and was headed for the Pentagon/Capital area. Or that no
pilots reported a hijacking. Or that no Middle Eastern men were
documented on the flights, other than by unsupported government
official (meaning lie) claims. Or that war games simulating the very
thing that occurred, just happened to be running when the Pentagon
event occurred. And more.

All of this is fairly well known and accepted. But it's not enough
for some, especially the gang who want to keep the above points
unexplored, and those that have their hearts set on it. What is
really needed is to imagine that a missile or no-757 hit the Pentagon
in order to explain it all. That would make things so much easier for
us to solve, because its so condeming and obvious, and it'd make the
conspirators job so much more difficult to pull off the event. Yeah,
instead of simply flying a remotely hijacked 757 into the Pentagon,
go with missiles or invisible, unnoticed, slinky planes slipping by
all the blinded-by-the-light witnesses who somehow still managed to
see an airliner slip by (but only up to the point where it sneakily
slipped over the building and flapped away silently). Oh those
hissing, slippery, snake-like planes. Just when you think you see
one, you don't. Call in the physics and psychic expert to explain how
it all works to us. We can't trust our eyes and senses. It's got to
be written on paper and stamped scientific before I'll believe it.

Belief, belief, belief.

A lie could go halfway around the world before the truth even had a
chance to put its boots on -- Mark Twain.

One of the primary means of immobilizing the American people today is
to hold them in a state of confusion in which anything can be
believed and nothing can be known....nothing of significance, that
is. -- E. Martin Schotz.

Yeah, using the old noggin, poor memory, and preferential
intellectualized biases to foster beliefs instead of the larger human
senses to indulge in knowingness. Speculation, speculation,
speculation. All is equal. Every opinion or idea is as worthy as the
next, standing above eye witness, as long as its based on speculation
and ignores the self evident facts.

Robert

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17.: Unquestioned Answers Breaking the 9-11 Truth Story Through the Sound

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Unquestioned Answers Breaking the 9-11 Truth Story Through the Soundless Barrier
June 23, 2006 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
By Steve Bhaerman
As we look at the pathetic and hopeless dance called “politics as usual,” it becomes clear that this system such as it is cannot change course from the top down. Take, for example, the so-called “debate” on the war in Iraq (which we should now, according to Thom Hartmann, call it what it really is “an occupation”). Even the two Senators with the most “radical” proposal, Kerry and Feingold, couldn’t break out of the matrix, and were almost apologetic and hopeless about their position, which represents the will of the majority of Americans.
When I think of the Iraq occupation -- and why we will be there for a long, long time if left up to our so-called leaders -- I am reminded of the “cocoanut monkey” phenomenon. In Africa, a time-honored and successful way to hunt monkeys involves dangling a cocoanut with a tasty treat (that the monkey can smell) inside. In order to get the treat, the monkey must stick his hand inside the hole in the cocoanut. This hole, however, is only big enough for the monkey’s hand to go in. When the monkey tries to pull the food out, he cannot because the hole is too small. Stubbornly, the monkey refuses to release his grip on the food, and is easily captured. In other words, he can’t let go to save his life.
That’s us in Iraq. The Administration is unwilling to loosen its grip on the imperialistic reasons for being there, witnessed by the huge embassy we are building and the plans to build military bases. The Democrats, meanwhile, are unwilling to let go of the dominator model for how to do business in the world, because they really don’t have an alternative model, or even trust that there is one. And the American people are unwilling to let go of the vague hope that our leaders will wake up and lead, and by some magic “West Wing” will somehow pre-empt “The Sopranos.”

Join the Up-Wising -- the REAL Field of Dreams And so, if we continue down the path we’re on, the occupation will drag on and we will continue to experience the “occupational hazards” of occupation until our will and our resources are exhausted. There is only one thing that can create breakthrough and that is a critical mass of American citizens waking up, wising up, speaking up and standing up to dismantle the “myth-conceptions” that keep politics as usual in place.
Swami calls this the “Up-wising,” and the good news is that the field of truth is getting more energized every day. Let me insert here an example from biology which you may or may not be familiar with. When the caterpillar goes into its cocoon to eventually emerge as a butterfly, new cells begin to appear. These cells, which are termed “imaginal cells” (what a great name!) are initially perceived by the caterpillar as foreign objects and are quashed and destroyed. However, in the relentless progression of life, these cells persist, begin to communicate with each other and form a “field” (essentially a community). At some point this field is strong enough and these imaginal cells become the new organism called the “butterfly.”
I think it’s useful right now for us to perceive the growing field of truth and functionality as the “imaginal cells” of the world we know is possible. The caterpillar (our political system “as usual”) is still calling the shots, but cannot survive in that form. The newspapers and the mainstream media, they’re all caterpillar. The Republicans and Democrats, they’re the caterpillar. So how can we withhold nourishment from the caterpillar and feed the imaginal cells instead?
Glad you asked.
Time to Clear Up Some Myth-Conceptions
About three months ago, I got an idea about how to break the 9-11 truth story through the soundless barrier. The Official Myth about what happened on September 11, 2001 is the linchpin that holds the caterpillar world view in place. It’s the foundation for the “war on terror,” the war in Iraq, the legitimacy of this illegitimate Administration, and for the fascistic laws which have pre-empted our Constitution. The problem with dismantling this myth however, is getting past the unwillingness people have to believe that our own government could have a hand in such a thing. In other words, the very magnitude of the perpetration is exactly what holds it in place!
When I approached the North Bay Bohemian, our local news and entertainment weekly in Sonoma County, about doing an article on David Ray Griffin and the 9-11 truth movement, the editor’s response was “Absolutely not!” She wanted nothing to do with any alternative 9-11 stories or anything that smacked of “conspiracy theory.” I suggested a different approach -- interviewing David Ray Griffin to find out how a straight arrow mainstream theologian came to believe the horrific truth that our government had something to do with the attacks. “Oh,” she said, “that’s a different story.” She liked the human interest approach, and told me to go ahead with the piece.
The result was the article which came out in last week’s Bohemian, Unquestioned Answers: Nonconspiracy Theorist David Ray Griffin Takes Aim at the Official 9-11 Story. The response to the article was like nothing the Bohemian has ever seen. The article was immediately picked up and circulated online, and the Bohemian received over 60 letters from all over the country and the world. No letter contradicted Griffin’s contention that the 9-11 attacks were most likely an inside job, and just about every one of them praised the Bohemian for having the courage to publish such an unbiased account. There was a sense of outrage, but also a sense of great relief that maybe, just maybe the body politic was gaining the strength to “metabolize” this huge toxin.
Uncle Swami Wants YOU!
And so I am now asking for your assistance in moving this field of truth forward. You can read the article and a few of the letters published. We’ve already received requests for reprinting the article, and this seems to be a great opportunity to break the story nationally and strengthen the field of extraordinary ordinary citizens willing to face the truth and help others do the same. With the Bohemian’s permission and blessing, I’m asking you to present this article to your local publications for re-publication. They can email me directly regarding terms, etc. The idea is grow this field until a critical mass of Americans get to the point where what they suspected in their hearts might have been true is now accepted in their minds. More importantly, they see exposure of the truth not as a reason for hopelessness, cynicism and despair but as a sign of cleansing, a cleanse that is needed to make way for a healthy and happy world.
I’ve often talked about the “awful truth” and “awesome opportunity” as going hand-in-hand. Paradoxically, it can be harder to accept the awesome opportunity than the awful truth. The history of the world and the stories we’ve been fed make it much easier to be cynical than hopeful. Cynics always have this ace in the hole when things don’t work out: “See? I was right.” But as you can probably see from your own life, being right often leads us wrong. It’s time for us to ask our own hearts -- not the experts from “caterpillar” -- what’s right. Are we humans a doomed species, a toxic virus gone awry, God’s 8th grade science project that barely got a “C?” Or, are we designed to evolve into conscious co-creators who express and embody the Creator’s love in our daily lives?
Let us move forward to expose the truth and embrace the opportunity. What a time we live in! Forget reality TV, this is REALITY! Let’s meet “outside the matrix” and live into this imaginal field.

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