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You Won't Post This...
« Thread Started on Aug 21, 2005, 6:08pm »
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This just in by email from John Doraemi -Fintan
"Groups 1-3 believe any old rubbish(PeakOil, Bird Flu,
GannonGate). Clearly, that fourth group are the big
problem for the opinion massagers."
This Fintan person talks so much nuts, about nearly
everyone trying to get to the truth. But where are
his credentials?
There are actual "bird flu" problems out there,
spreading across Asia as we speak. Killing thousands
of birds, and the strain of flu is very similar to a
human form of the virus that kills 50% of victims.
That's not "rubbish," and it has nothing whatsoever to
do with one's opinion about September 11th.
"Peak Oil" is another concept that Fintan either
doesn't understand, or he thinks he can feel superior
by denigrating others. Hubbard was the scientist who
modelled how oil fields "peak" and decline. This is
an inevitability, if you keep pumping oil out of them.
(Hubbard predicted the peak/decline of US oilfields
to within a decade). On a global scale it will wreak
havoc unseen before, because of our irrational
overreliance on oil. The price will skyrocket into
the hudreds of dollars per barrel. This will affect
economies everywhere. Not "rubbish."
What passes for "fact" on Fintan's site? MOVIE PLOTS!
I was investigating how Fintan allegedly had the goods
on Daniel Hopsicker and Amanda Keller. There is
nothing in that entire article, except several old
movie reviews, to substantiate his claims. Nothing!
The man is a charlatan, and he's actively denigrating
nearly EVERYONE out there investigating 9-11.
Sorry, Fin, I'd take the word of Mike Ruppert over you
any day of the week. Same goes for Hopsicker,
Chossudovsky, and many of the others you are
attempting to demonize. Who's really not working for
"the truth" here?
What factual analysis do you offer to counter the
highly plausible claims made by these giants in the
field? Where's your fount of wisdom? (Old Arnold
movies don't count.)
John Doraemi publishes Crimes of the State at:
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/
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Re: You Won't Post This...
« Reply #1 on Aug 21, 2005, 8:18pm »
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It's good to step through this somewhat knee-jerk
response to our ongoing CIA Fakes analysis.
First off, bear in mind that unless the CIA Fakes were reasonably convincing, there would be little point. As a result, a lot of people have been taken in by them. In a controlled media environment, we are meant to clutch at such straws.
I wrote:
"Groups 1-3 believe any old rubbish(PeakOil, Bird Flu,
GannonGate). Clearly, that fourth group are the big
problem for the opinion massagers."
That fourth group being MIHOP.
The MIHOP group is a problem because their analysis may lead them to ours. In other words thay may come to realize that those ruthless enough to "Make it Happen on Purpose" may well have plans that go wayyyy back. Which plans could reasonably be expected to include effective control of Internet News just as with mainstream media.
But how can you control the Internet -when anyone can publish to it? Like this: you only need to control the high traffic points. So if someone publishes to the Net, and their material is dangerous -you just ignore it- don't link to it. They often linked to my less dangertous material, but never to vital articles that explain what's really going on:
Dawn of the G8 New World Order
http://www.breakfornews.com/G8-World-Order.htm
This Fintan person talks so much nuts, about nearly
everyone trying to get to the truth. But where are
his credentials?
My credentials are the quality of my analysis. My credentials include writing that article I referenced above. All about the G8 and the danger they pose.
Written on 10th June, 2004 (a year before the G8 London Bombings):
"In the last few days the totalitarian domination of the developing world has solidified around the annexation of Iraq. And the G8 elite have moved swiftly on to outline the next phase of their New World Order." http://www.breakfornews.com/G8-World-Order.htm
Most people still don't realize what the G8 did to inspire such a comment from me.
[Read the article!]
But they got a big, big hint that the G8 (rather than the GWB) is their real problem, when about exactly a year later we had the G8/London bombs; Live8 nosedived; and the G8 trooped out onto the world stage to reassure us all that the 'terrorists' won't win.
Which is why I wrote:
This author on 10th June, 2004 clearly identified the ongoing crisis flowing from 9/11, as a geopolitical maneuver by the G8.
This time last year we also clearly identified Africa as their next target. And just a week ago, in a further analysis entitled "Live8 is an NWO Psyop - so is AIDS", we again identified the role of the G8 in the carefully staged "popular" fanfare around the campaign for African debt relief. The latest events in London, now confirm our earlier analysis was correct.
We are witnessing a series of choreographed psychological-military operations inspired by core elements of the G8, which are designed to stampede people into casting aside hard won civil liberties, while moving to a global governmental/military/economic order based on the values of power and money -not social development, equity and justice. http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_19134.shtml
There are actual "bird flu" problems out there,
spreading across Asia as we speak. Killing thousands
of birds, and the strain of flu is very similar to a
human form of the virus that kills 50% of victims.
That's not "rubbish," and it has nothing whatsoever to
do with one's opinion about September 11th.
You are really buying it all. There is NO Bird Flu problem. There is only a problem of housing birds as if they were industrial production units. Nothing new. Nothing dangerous. Just Nature at work, showing us how not to do it. And viruses will only affect humans if we (like the birds) are living like we are industrial production units.
.....And it IS the same as with the September 11th issue. Just as with bird flu, you are buying the detail from Ruppert et al, but failing to question the context.
"Peak Oil" is another concept that Fintan either
doesn't understand, or he thinks he can feel superior
by denigrating others. Hubbard was the scientist who
modelled how oil fields "peak" and decline. This is
an inevitability, if you keep pumping oil out of them.
(Hubbard predicted the peak/decline of US oilfields
to within a decade). On a global scale it will wreak
havoc unseen before, because of our irrational
overreliance on oil. The price will skyrocket into
the hudreds of dollars per barrel. This will affect
economies everywhere. Not "rubbish."
Peak Oil (and the oil prices it subtly allows) is a Global Oil Tax. The money goes straight to the U.S Fed System to allow them tweak the U.S. economy. So ask yourself this. If Peak Oil is real, are we now paying higher prices because the supplier countries have announced that as the oil is running out they will be charging more? No.
So why is it dearer, and where is the money going?
Hint: Take at look at Oil Company balance sheets.
What passes for "fact" on Fintan's site? MOVIE PLOTS!
Movie plots are a useful common ground for discussing all sorts of plots. lol
I was investigating how Fintan allegedly had the goods
on Daniel Hopsicker and Amanda Keller. There is
nothing in that entire article, except several old
movie reviews, to substantiate his claims. Nothing!
The article is : " True Lies of 9/11: Amanda & Atta"
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/true-lies-of-911-amanda-atta.html
It has one sentence that is from a review of the movie.
The rest of the sentences are a long overdue analysis.
OK, then. Ignore 'em.
The man is a charlatan, and he's actively denigrating
nearly EVERYONE out there investigating 9-11.
I'm actively spotlighting the CIA's disinfo, that's what. And there are thousands of people investigating 9/11. The CIA don't control them. But the CIA would like to control their analysis of the events.
Sorry, Fin, I'd take the word of Mike Ruppert over you
any day of the week. Same goes for Hopsicker,
Chossudovsky, and many of the others you are
attempting to demonize. Who's really not working for
"the truth" here?
Fine. Go take the word of Mike Ruppert.
Take these words of Ruppert's, for example:
Ruppert: "I was personally exposed to CIA operations and recruited by CIA personnel
who attempted to recruit me in the late '70's to become involved in protecting agency
drug operations in this country." http://emsh.calarts.edu/~akgreis/cia/CIA.html
http://www.parascope.com/articles/1196/deutch.htm
Read it again. Was he recruited or not?? You decide.
Our Audio on 6 Sep 04 'Mike Ruppert: Rebel Without a Rebellion'
http://www.kathymcmahon.utvinternet.com/mrn/audio/InsideTrackNews040906.mp3
What factual analysis do you offer to counter the
highly plausible claims made by these giants in the
field? Where's your fount of wisdom? (Old Arnold
movies don't count.)
The analysis is there. Read it.
"Giants in the field??"
No giants. And no pedestals, please.
(Old Arnold movies don't count.)
Oh, but Arnold movies DO count.
That's how the Reaganite machine works.
Arnold has played a very, very important role.
So has Stallone. So has Willis.
Hollywood has fashioned a new warrior class.
Otherwise known as cannon fodder.
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Re: You Won't Post This...
« Reply #2 on Aug 21, 2005, 9:38pm »
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Just got this from John Doraemi's website:
"...in London a week ago, a company called Visor
Consultants was running a terror drill on the morning of
the bombings, at the exact same railway stations, at the
exact same times as the bombings, and a thousand
people were involved. This is reported on BBC."
http://crimesofthestate.blogspot.com/2005/07/4-minutes-on-9-11.html
Why are you spreading these lies?
It's been debunked. No thousand people.
Just a seminar for a handful of managers.
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/alex-jones-is-wrong-on-london-terror.html
Why not tell the real story.
It was a setup to discredit "conspiracy theories".
Alex Jones played along.
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/mainstream-ridicules-visor-terror.html
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/pied-piper-of-london-bombing.html
If you keep telling that lie, people gonna wonder about you. lol
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Re: You Won't Post This...
« Reply #3 on Yesterday at 10:14pm »
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Dear John Doraemi
have a read here - the Center for an Informed America (CIA).
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/
'Peak Oil' is an engineered scam.
More die crossing the road every day than from 'Bird Flu' in a year.
More die each year from RTAs on Phuket, Thailand, than the total dead from the so-called (but geo-physically impossible) December 26 'tsunami'.
9/11 was a MIHOP psyop. Wake up sleepy head.
Not everything is as it seems - just ask O'Brien.
Winston .
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