WTC7 seems to be a classic controlled demolition. WTC 1 &2 destruction appears to have been enhanced by thermate (a variation of thermite) in addition. Pentagon was not struck by a passenger aircraft. It was a drone or missle.
Wednesday, March 22, 2006
To court rules against cops in search case - Crime
WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that police cannot always search a home when one resident says to come in but another objects, and the court’s new leader complained that the ruling could hamper investigations of domestic abuse.
Another charade at the United Nations - Editorials
Mary Robinson, former UN high commissioner for human rights, claimed that American opposition to the UN plan was no different from the stonewalling of thuggish states such as Cuba and Pakistan. Thanks to Bush administration policies, she said, "the United States can no longer claim to be the standard-bearer on human rights."
Afghan Convert May Be Unfit for Trial - Yahoo! News
His trial started last week and he confessed to becoming a Christian 16 years ago. If convicted, he could be executed.
TheStar.com - U.S. media wallows in amnesia
"39 per cent still believe Saddam was personally involved in the 9/11 attacks"
TPM Muckraker March 21, 2006 11:57 AM (Printable Format)
Three MZM Staff Worked on White House Intel Panel
[imra] Daily digest - Volume: 2 Issue: 1354 (15 messages)
imra Wed Mar 22 00:23:19 2006 Volume 2 : Issue 1354
In this issue of the imra daily Digest:
In an unusual public statement, Zakaria Zubeidi,
chief of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades in Jenin,
admits that his organization receives operative
assistance from Hezbollah (funds, arms and training),
and that the organization exerts much influence on him
President Abbas Handed Government Lineup and Its Agenda
Press Release - PSR Poll No. 19 (16-18 March 06)
Poll: Settlers don't trust state institutions
3 Reports on Security Chaos and Proliferation of Small Arms
Shlomo Dror: Kerem Shalom crossing
could have handled goods instead of Karni
Acting PM Olmert Tours Rutenberg Power
Station in Ashkelon [no restrictions on IDF]
MEMRI: The Will of Al-Qaeda Commander in
Saudi Arabia [equally against Christians and Jews]
Our World: Israel's uninformed electorate
Transcript: Kol Yisrael Radio Interview of Esther Pollard
on US Supreme Court Dismissal of Jonathan's Petition
Lieberman: Olmert plan strengthens Hamas
Two reports - Security Chaos and Proliferation of Small Arms
Health Ministry: Bird Flu Poses No Danger To The Public
Pollards Grateful After US Supreme Court Dismissal
Excerpts: Bad news for Jordan's mothers.
Opportunity for secularists in Arab society.21 March 2006
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: In an unusual public statement, Zakaria Zubeidi,
chief of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades in Jenin,
admits that his organization receives operative
assistance from Hezbollah (funds, arms and training),
and that the organization exerts much influence on him
From:
Dr. Reuven Erlich
Director
The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center
at the Center for Special Studies (C.S.S) Intelligence and Terrorism
Information Center at the
Center for Special Studies (C.S.S)
The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center
In an unusual public statement, Zakaria Zubeidi, chief of the Al-Aqsa
Martyrs Brigades in Jenin, admits that his organization receives operative
assistance from Hezbollah (funds, arms and training), and that the
organization exerts much influence on him
Download PDF file
www.terrorism-info.org.il/malam_multimedia/English/eng_n/pdf/zakaria_zubeidi_e.pdf
The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center is the educational and
documentary center of the national memorial site of the Israeli intelligence
community. It is located at the Center for Special Studies (C.S.S.), at
Gelilot near Tel Aviv, and specializes in information about intelligence and
terrorism. It regularly releases exclusive information on its Internet site,
both in Hebrew and English ( www.terrorism-info.org.il ), a large
percentage of which is based on original Palestinian documents captured by
Israeli forces.
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: President Abbas Handed Government Lineup and Its Agenda
President Abbas Handed Government Lineup and Its Agenda
www.ipc.gov.ps/ipc_new/english/details.asp?name=14566
GAZA, Palestine, March20, 2006 (IPC+ Agencies) -[Official PA website] After
the Popular Front For Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) took its crucial
decision in the last moment not to join Hmas led governmnet, the Prime
Minister Designate Ismael Haneya brought to his meeting with the President
Mahmoud Abbas Sunday evening the line-up of his government enlisting 24
ministers, dominated strongly by Hamas leaders in the absence of other
Palestinian factions.
The President Mahmnoud Abbas announced that he would transfer the list to
the Palestine Liberation Organization's executive committee within 48 hours,
after which the proposed cabinet is to be brought before the Palestinian
parliament for confidnece vote.
Abbas undesrcosred that hard challenges and stumbling blocks are rife in his
way and the new governmnet but with good wlling and resolvness such
challenges could be coped with.
"I met with Ismael Haneya and presented the list of ministers whom he
proposed, within 24 or 48 hours I will convene meeting with PLO executive
committee to be briefed on the new line-up," Abbas said in a press briefing
in the presidential compound in Gaza city following the meeting with Haneya.
He said further" after that a transaction would be taken, the government
will be set before the legislative council for approval then a decree
accrediting the government line-up."
The matter is not simple," said Abbas. "We and the new government are facing
difficulties and obstacles, but with determination and will, God willing we
will overcome such challenges."
Questioned about whether he accepted Hamas's agenda for the government or
not the president Abbas elaborated "all matters will be discussed with the
executive committee."
After meeting with Abbas, Haneya signaled out Sunday that Abbas will study
the proposed cabinet saying, "I can say that the trend is positive, toward
constitutional stability in the Palestinian arena."
Haneya asserted that key of the portfolios were handed to the prominent
leaders of Hamas movement, pointing out that Dr Mahmoud Zahar foreign
minister and Said Sayam interior minister.
He also elaborated that the new government will include 14 ministers from
the West Bank and 10 others from Gaza Strip and a Christian. Technocrats and
independents dominated Hamas- led cabinet.
Israeli fear and rejection
An Israeli official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that Israel
will refuse any contacts with a "terror" government led by Hamas and
continue to withhold PNA worth tax and customs payments as long as Hamas
disagree to renounce violence, recognize Israel and previous agreements.
On her part, Foreign Minister Tizivi Livni said that that dedicated teams
are gearing to persuade the world public opinion not to recognize a
Palestinian government led by Hamas
During the weeking meeting of the cabeint, Livni told the ministers that the
teams will continue efforts among members of the international community in
a bid to prevent any erosion in the prerequisites posed by Israel, including
recognizing Israel, dismantling the terror organizations, and honoring
agreements signed by the Palestinians.
On his part, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz said Sunday night that Palestinian
Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) was facing his moment of truth
in authorizing the makeup of the Hamas government, which would turn the
Palestinian Authority into a terror entity.
Mofaz said " it was clearly a Hamas government that does not hide its
intentions. If Abu Mazen fails to act now and brings the cabinet to the
parliament's approval, he will officially turn the Palestinian Authority
into a terror entity."
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: Press Release - PSR Poll No. 19 (16-18 March 06)
20 March 2006
PRESS RELEASE
Palestinian Public Opinion Poll No. (19)
ON THE EVE OF THE FORMATION OF THE NEW PALESTINIAN GOVERNMENT, HAMAS'
POPULARITY INCREASES AND FATEH'S DECREASES, BUT A MAJORITY OF THE
PALESTINIANS WANTS THE CONTINUATION OF THE PEACE PROCESS AND THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ROAD MAP
16-18 March 2006
These are the results of the latest poll conducted by the Palestinian Center
for Policy and Survey Research in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip during
March 16-18, 2006. Total size of the sample is 1270 adults interviewed face
to face in 127 randomly selected locations. Margin of error is 3%.
For further details, contact PSR director, Dr. Khalil Shikaki, or Walid
Ladadweh at tel 02-296 4933 or email pcpsr@pcpsr.org
If elections are held today, 47% would vote for Hamas and 39% for Fateh. In
the Gaza Strip, Hamas receives 51% of the vote and Fateh 37%. (In this poll
46% said that on the day of the elections in January 25, they have voted for
Hamas and 44% said they have voted for Fateh. The actual official figures of
the Palestinian Central Elections commission gave only 44% for Hamas and 41%
for Fateh.)
In the view of 37% of the public, Hamas won the parliamentary elections
because voters wanted first and foremost an Islamic Palestinian authority
that rules according to religious Sharia. But 36% believe that Hamas won
because voters wanted first and foremost a clean authority that fights
corruption, 9% said voters wanted first and foremost a strong authority that
ends
anarchy, and 7% said voters wanted first and foremost a fighting authority
that resists occupation.
In the view of 52% Fateh lost the elections because voters wanted first and
foremost to punish it for the spread of corruption while 19% think it lost
first and foremost because it was divided and leaderless, and 17% because it
failed to end anarchy, and 5% because of the peace process
70% expect Hamas to succeed, and 22% expect it to fail, in leading and
managing the Palestinian Authority. 69% are not worried and 30% are worried
about their personal freedoms now that Hamas has won the elections.
68% believe the PA can not manage without international financial support
and 50% expect that support to be terminated. But 78% believe that Hamas
will find alternative Arab and Islamic sources. Despite international
pressure, 59% believe Hamas should not recognize Israel and 37% believe it
should.
75% say that Hamas should engage Israel in peace negotiations. 64% identify
themselves as supporters of the peace process and only 14% say they are
opposed to the peace process. 53% want the newly elected authority to
implement the Road Map and 49% want it to collect arms from the armed
factions while 21% do not want it to interfere in the arms of the factions
and 27% say the PA should enact laws that allow the factions to keep their
arms. 82% support integrating armed groups in the Palestinian security
services.
93% believe the US and Britain are implicated in the Israeli attack on the
Jericho jail and the arrest of Ahmad Sa'adat. But a majority of 51% supports
only peaceful Palestinian responses to that or no response at all. A total
of 46% support various responses ranging from attacking and burning offices,
kidnapping of American and British nationals, or even armed attacks against
American and British nationals.
In other domestic affairs:
44% want to give the Palestinian Legislative Council more powers than the PA
president while 19% want the opposite and 32% want to give the two equal
powers.
44% believe the most serious problem confronting the Palestinians today is
unemployment and poverty, 25% believe it is the continuation of the
occupation, and 24% believe it is corruption and lack of reforms.
75% say they and their families do not feel secure and safe under the
Palestinian Authority
91% say there is corruption in the PA today, but for the first time since
1996, 65% among those think that corruption will decrease in the future.
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This PSR survey was conducted with the support of the Konrad Adenauer
Foundation in Ramallah.
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: Poll: Settlers don't trust state institutions
Poll: Settlers disengage from state
Recent survey shows most settlers distrust police, High Court, State,
citizens living within green line and, mostly media; Rabbis remain popular,
some 46 percent say they respect IDF. Large number of settlers say religious
nationalist parties, Yesha failed in protecting their cause
Guy Mei-Tal YNET 20 March 2006
www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3229931,00.html
A poll conducted among settlers after the evacuation of the Amona illegal
outpost has found that two-thirds of the community are disappointed and
angry with the State's policy towards them, Israel's leading newspaper
Yedioth Ahronoth reported Monday.
Some 71 percent of settler youths who took part in the poll said they trust
no one in their struggle against government plans to evacuate more settlers
from the West Bank.
Demonstration
Gaza evacuees protest salary failures / Shmulik Hadad
Former Gush Katif settlers say they have yet to receive promised salaries
while attending conversion courses for other professions; staff at
Employment Service refuses to speak to demonstrators
Full story
The poll, which was conducted among 828 respondents from 43 settlements,
also probed the popularity of Yesha council leaders and religious
nationalist parties.
About 56 percent of respondents said the National Religious Party and
National Union party "failed," with only 14 percent expressing satisfaction
with their policy.
The Yesha Council also saw its popularity drop, with 49 percent of
respondents saying its leaders' strategy towards the government failed, in
comparison to 25 percent who approved of the council.
Rabbis were the most popular among respondents.
'Bond between army, settlers must be strengthened'
Three in every four respondents said they do not trust the High Court of
Justice, two-thirds distrust the Israel Police, and one-third said they
distrust Israelis living within the green line.
The media is perceived as the most anti-settler institution, with 83 percent
saying they distrust its coverage of their cause.
About 46 percent said they trust the IDF in comparison to 29 percent who
said their trust in the military institution has dwindled since the August
disengagement from the Gaza Strip.
Despite the alarming findings, 62 percent of polled youth said
confrontations with the army and the police during the disengagement and the
evacuation of Amona have not deterred them from enlisting to the national
service.
Only 20 percent said they will not serve the army.
Settler leader Pinchas Wallerstein said the poll's findings are reassuring,
citing that a mere 7 percent of respondents said they support having
recourse to violence should the government go ahead with further pullouts
from the West Bank.
"Despite the disappointment with the security forces the IDF enjoys a
favorable treatment when the High Court and the police's popularity have
dropped. We need to invest a lot of time in strengthening the bond between
the army and the people so that the split does not widen," he said.
(03.20.06, 11:34)
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: 3 Reports on Security Chaos and Proliferation of Small Arms
3 Reports on Security Chaos and Proliferation of Small Arms
PCHR
Palestinian Centre for Human Rights
#1 Security Chaos and Proliferation of Weapons
Clashes between Armed Groups or with Security Forces
Field Update
20 March 2006
4 Persons Injured in an Armed Clash between Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and
Palestinian Police
Four Palestinians were injured in an armed clash between members of the
al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades and Palestinian Police on Salah al-Din Road, near
Beit Hanoun in the north of the Gaza Strip. The injured included 2
policemen, a member of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, and a civilian
bystander.
According to preliminary investigations conducted by PCHR, at approximately
09:30 on Monday, 20 March 2006, an exchange of fire took place between
members of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the military wing of Fatah
movement, and Palestinian Police on Salah al-Din Road leading to Beit Hanoun
crossing. A Police officer, Na'el Nizar Abu Salmeya, 32, from al-Shati
refugee camp, was injured by shrapnel to the abdomen. The armed group had
closed the road with explosive devices, and deployed its members on both
sides of the road. They intercepted Palestinian police vehicles on their way
to Beit Hanoun crossing to escort the chief of Palestinian police, Major
General Alaa' Hosni. They were demanding jobs and registering their names in
the security forces' lists.
The clashes between the two sides intensified as police reinforcements were
brought to the area. The clashes continued until 10:00, and resulted in
injuring 3 people:
1. Nazih Rashid Abu Odeh, 25, from Beit Hanoun, injured by a live
bullet to the left foot when he was driving a tractors;
2. Mowaffaq Jama'an al-Nansh, 22, from Beit Hanoun, one of the
gunmen, injured by a live bullet to the right thigh; and
3. Mohammed Abu Sitta, 31, from Beit Hanoun, one of the gunmen and a
member of the Preventive Security Service, wounded by a live bullet to the
right hand.
At approximately 10:30, a number of the guards of chief of the police, Major
General Alaa' Hosni arrived at Balsam Hospital in Beit Lahia. They opened
fire inside the hospital. They transported their colleague who was injured
in the aforementioned clash from Balsam Hospital to Shifa Hospital in Gaza
City.
PCHR is concerned about the continuation of internal violence, which
constitutes a continuum of the state of security chaos in the Occupied
Palestinian Territory. PCHR calls upon the Palestinian National Authority,
represented by the Attorney-General, to investigate these attacks, and bring
the perpetrators to justice.
#2 Security Chaos and Proliferation of Weapons
Misuse of Weapons
Field Update
20 March 2006
Two Persons Seriously Wounded Due to Misuse of Weapons
At approximately 13:00 on Sunday, 19 March 2006, Mohammed Shaheen Khader,
43, a taxi driver working at Rafah International Crossing Point, was
seriously wounded by a live bullet to the head. A number of members of the
al-Aqsa Martyrs of Fatah movement traveling in a civilian car (white
Mercedes) opened fire, because a traveler whom they were waiting was late in
arriving at the Palestinian side due to technical problems at the crossing
point.
At approximately 13:30 also on Sunday, an explosion occurred inside a house
belonging to 'Emad Hassan Taha, 34, in Nusairat refugee camp in the central
Gaza Strip. Taha was seriously injured. According to Palestinian security
sources, the explosion resulted from a locally made bomb.
#3 Security Chaos and Proliferation of Small Arms
Attacks on Public Institutions and Officials
Field Update
20 March 2006
Armed Groups and Families Attack Public Institutions in the Gaza Strip
On Monday, 20 March 2006, armed groups and families attacked public
institutions and officials in the Gaza Strip, in the context of the state of
security chaos in the Occupied Palestinian Territory.
At approximately 01:00 on Monday, 20 March 2006, an armed group belonging to
Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the military wing of Fatah movement, stormed the
electricity generation facility to the north of Nusairat refugee camp in the
center of the Gaza Strip. The gunmen stormed the facility under heavy
gunfire in an effort to pressure the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) to
provide jobs for them.
According to PCHR's initial investigation, a National Security Force
dispatch arrived at the scene to clear the gunmen from the facility.
However, the gunmen refused and exchanged fire with the National Security
Force for nearly 2 hours. The clash resulted in the injury of a National
Security Force officer, Na'el Khamis Abu Khadra, 25, from Nusairat refugee
camp, who was hit with a bullet to the abdomen. He was evacuated to the
al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in Deir al-Balah, where his condition was described
as serious. The attack on the station continued until 04:00, when the gunmen
left the station.
It is noted that the electricity generation facility came under several
attacks by armed Palestinian groups in the past. The last attack was on 11
March 2006, when a number of Fatah gunmen tried to storm the facility. They
were requesting jobs.
At approximately 08:00, a number of persons from the Abu Draz family closed
the gate of al-Karma Military Hospital in 'Abasan village, east of Khan
Yunis. They requested the medical crew of the hospital to suspend their
work. They declared the closure of the hospital until the achievement of
their demand that 5 members of the family being employed. The
administration of the hospital was forced to close the hospital and transfer
patients to other hospitals in Khan Yunis.
At approximately 09:00, 4 armed persons from the Shahwan family opened fire
near Khan Yunis Central Court that was considering the case of murdering one
of their relatives. The Palestinian police tried to close the area, and
members of the Shahwan family set fire to tires. At approximately 11:50, as
the police were escorting the defendants out of the court, a number of
members of the Shahwan family three stones and two locally made bombs at the
police. Police officers opened fire in the air to disperse them. No
casualties were reported.
At approximately 10:00, at least 40 militants from the al-Aqsa Martyrs
Brigades, the military wing of Fatah movement, closed the road leading to
the governmental compound, which included the Ministry of Finance, in
al-Remal neighborhood in Gaza City. They besieged the building claiming
that they have not received their salaries for several months. Half n hour
later, the police arrived at the area. The militants who took position on
the roof of the building clashed with the police for half an hour. Two
staff members of the Palestinian Foreign Ministry in the area were wounded:
1. Salem al-Farra, 35, wounded by two live bullets to the thigh; and
2. Suleiman al-'Aklouk, 27, wounded by a live bullet to the hand.
PCHR is concerned about the continuation of these dangerous attacks, which
constitute a continuum of the state of security chaos in the Occupied
Palestinian Territory. PCHR calls upon the Palestinian National Authority,
represented by the Attorney-General, to investigate these attacks, and bring
the perpetrators to justice.
Public Document
**************************************
For more information please call PCHR office in Gaza, Gaza Strip, on +972 8
2824776 - 2825893
PCHR, 29 Omer El Mukhtar St., El Remal, PO Box 1328 Gaza, Gaza Strip.
E-mail: pchr@pchrgaza.org, Webpage http://www.pchrgaza.org
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: Shlomo Dror: Kerem Shalom crossing
could have handled goods instead of Karni
Shlomo Dror: Kerem Shalom crossing could have handled goods instead of Karni
Aaron Lerner Date: 20 March 2006
Despite terror warnings, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz decided Monday to open
the Karni border crossing that links Israel and the Gaza Strip. The
crossing will open Monday afternoon for only several hours to transfer basic
goods to the Palestinians out of fear that a humanitarian crisis will
develop in Gaza.
Shlomo Dror, spokesperson for the Coordinator of Activities in the
Territories, told IMRA today that the alternative Kerem Shalom crossing,
that is fully equipped with screening and other equipment, could have
readily handled the traffic. The Kerem Shalom crossing typically handles
goods passing between Egypt and the PA via Israel.
MK Uzi Landau (Likud) criticized the decision today, saying that "it would
be better for the trucks to drive a few more kilometers than for the lives
of Israelis to be endangered."
Critics point out that the Olmert Administration failed miserably in
handling the challenge of explaining to the world that the Palestinians were
to blame by preferring to have Palestinians starve than for the goods to go
through Kerem Shalom. It is noteworthy that Shimon Peres, who would have a
key role in a Kadima coalition, took a lead today in undermining Israel's
information campaign efforts by justifying the opening of Karni rather than
criticizing the Palestinians for refusing to allow Kerem Shalom to be used
for the movement of goods between the PA and Israel.
Dr. Aaron Lerner, Director IMRA (Independent Media Review & Analysis)
(Mail POB 982 Kfar Sava)
Tel 972-9-7604719/Fax 972-3-7255730
INTERNET ADDRESS: imra@netvision.net.il
Website: http://www.imra.org.il
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: Acting PM Olmert Tours Rutenberg Power
Station in Ashkelon [no restrictions on IDF]
[IMRA: "the Acting Prime Minister emphasized that no restrictions have been
imposed on IDF actions" = the best that the IDF can do to stop rockets
slamming into the power station is to fire artillery shells into empty
fields? It should be noted that Mr. Olmert cites this achievement as a
model for security in the center of the country after the retreat he
proposes is carried out.]
Acting PM Olmert Tours Rutenberg Power Station in Ashkelon
(Communicated by the Prime Minister's Media Adviser)
Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert today (Monday), 20.3.06, toured the
Rutenberg Power Station in Ashkelon. Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz, National
Infrastructures Minister Ronnie Bar-On, Ashkelon Mayor Ronnie Mehatzri,
senior Israel Electric Corporation officials, Mekorot representatives and
senior Israel Police officers (inter alia) accompanied the Acting Prime
Minister.
Acting Prime Minister Olmert held discussions on issues related to the city
of Ashkelon, including security, the absorption of Gaza Strip evacuees, the
employment situation, etc.
Acting Prime Minister Olmert commended the Israel Electric Corporation on
its incoming and outgoing Directors-General. Regarding the security
situation, the Acting Prime Minister emphasized that no restrictions have
been imposed on IDF actions and noted that the security forces have had many
recent counter-terrorist successes.
Acting Prime Minister Olmert said that the Ashkelon region was vital to the
State of Israel: "This is a region that must attract both a strong
population and tourists. The State of Israel will not countenance actions
that harm the region's quality of life. We cannot detail everything but we
are optimistic regarding our counter-terrorism efforts and I believe that
terrorism will be significantly reduced."
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: MEMRI: The Will of Al-Qaeda Commander in
Saudi Arabia [equally against Christians and Jews]
Special Dispatch - Saudi Arabia / Jihad & Terrorism Studies Project
March 21, 2006
No. 1120
The Will of Al-Qaeda Commander in Saudi Arabia Fahd Al-Farraj
To view this Special Dispatch in HTML, visit:
http://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=SD112006 .
The following are excerpts from a recorded will of Al-Qaeda Commander in
Saudi Arabia Fahd Al Farraj, aired on www.alsaha.com on March 17, 2006.
TO VIEW THIS CLIP: http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1078 .
The will of Commander Fahd bin Farraj Al-Jweir Al-Farraj, one of the
commanders of the Al-Qaeda organization in the Arabian Peninsula.
Fahd Al-Farraj in training in the Arabian Peninsula.
The Battar Camp.
Drive the polytheists out of the Arabian Peninsula
Fahd Al Farraj: "I want to clarify and to reiterate the goals we wish to
accomplish, with Allah's help, and to respond to some doubts about the
mujahideen, raised by the scholars of evil, who level such accusations
against them. First of all, the goal of our jihad is to elevate the word of
Allah, to drive the polytheists out of the peninsula of Muhammad, to apply
his law in all aspects of life and on all people, and to remove injustice
from our oppressed brothers everywhere."
[...]
"To all the Muslim peoples wherever they may be, I say: How long will you
remain silent? How long will you accept this humiliation and degradation?
How long will you continue to be ruled by the law of the tyrants, yet remain
silent? Where is your Islam? Where is your worship of Allah? Islam is not a
religion in name only - it is a religion of faith and action. The
Crusaders, the Hindus, the Zoroastrians, and their apostate helpers rule and
control you and your brothers. They are fighting against your religion, and
are fighting you in your livelihood. They are violating your honor, yet you
remain silent. Have your humiliation and degradation brought you that low?
Would you agree to become apostates, Jews, or Christians? Would you agree to
abandon the religion of Islam?"
[...]
"I ask every Muslim on the face of the earth: Would you agree that one of
these infidels enter your home, and violate the honor of your sister, your
mother, or your daughter? Of course you would not. The women in Palestine,
Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Indonesia, Kashmir, and the Philippines are our
sisters, our mothers, and our daughters. I am amazed how you can continue to
sleep undisturbed, while your brothers are being killed, and the honor of
your sisters is being violated. Awaken from your slumber, and support your
oppressed brothers. Fight for the sake of Allah, and you will receive one of
the two good things: victory or martyrdom."
[...]
"To the security forces, I say: I am amazed at you. When you are told to
wage jihad, you cling to this world. But when [Saudi Interior Minister
Prince] Naif Bin Abd Al-'Aziz tells you to sell your souls to his government
and to fight for his sake, and to defend the Americans, in exchange for
3,000 riyals and hell - you are willing to sell your souls cheaply. Have you
stooped so low? Are your souls worthless for you? He calls you 'martyrs of
duty,' but think what you will say to Allah if you meet him, after having
killed a mujaheed who fought for the sake of Allah, in order to defend the
Americans, or if he killed you when you were defending the tyrants. Stop
working for the tyrant, and join the mujahideen, otherwise - you know full
well who the mujahideen are, and what they have prepared for those who stand
in their way."
[...]
"To the Saudi government, I say: All I say to you is what the Prophet
Muhammad said to the infidels of Qureysh, when he was alone: 'I have brought
slaughter upon you.' By Allah, your kingdom will come to an end. The
mujahideen will defeat you. Do you know why? Because Allah supports us, and
no one supports you. Do you know why? Because Allah said in the Koran: 'If
you support Allah, He will support you,' and we trust and believe in the
promise of Allah. If you only knew what our young men have in store for you,
you would be busy arranging your escape from this peninsula."
[...]
"To the Americans, I say: Get out of the peninsula of Muhammad, and all the
lands of the Muslims, and stop supporting the Jews in Palestine and the
Christians in the lands of the Muslims. Otherwise, you will encounter only
death, destruction, and explosions."
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The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) is an independent,
non-profit organization that translates and analyzes the media of the Middle
East. Copies of articles and documents cited, as well as background
information, are available on request.
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: Our World: Israel's uninformed electorate
Our World: Israel's uninformed electorate
Caroline Glick, THE JERUSALEM POST Mar. 20, 2006
www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395642779&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
On the eve of the Knesset elections, Israel faces multiple challenges.
Hamas, in appointing technocrats and terrorists to run its new government is
showing that it is possible to learn from the Nazi model of governance. Even
genocidal mass murderers who seduce their societies with delusions of racial
and religious supremacy can receive international acclaim if they make the
trains run on time.
Israel's political spectrum is divided between the Left, represented by
Kadima and the Right represented by Likud. Kadima wishes to contend with the
Hamas threat by making a public show of shunning Hamas while surrendering
Judea and Samaria to the terror organization.
The Likud points out that surrendering Judea and Samaria to Hamas will make
it impossible to defend the rest of the country. Since Likud doesn't think
that Israel should surrender its right to defend itself by turning its
heartland over to a global terrorist organization which together with Fatah
and Islamic Jihad has already murdered over 1,100 Israelis and remains
committed to annihilating Israel, it objects to surrendering any territory
to Hamas.
It has been repeatedly noted in this column that the Israeli media has
blocked all public debate on this issue. The media mollycoddles politicians
on the Left - applauding them for mindlessly repeating the talking points
they received from their public relations advisers. Politicians on the Right
on the other hand are harassed, insulted and forced on the defensive for
daring to suggest that expelling Israelis from their homes and transferring
their land to Hamas might not be in Israel's best interest.
It isn't just issues related to Israel's national security that are shunted
under the rug by our media stars as they obsess over our politicians'
relative likeability and body language. All issues of concern are ignored.
A week before the elections, it seems worthwhile to look at a few of these
other issues so that we will at least have some idea of what is at stake.
FIRST, WE have the economy. Of all the parties running in these elections,
only two have enunciated their economic policies in any coherent manner.
Likud, led by Binyamin Netanyahu is a free market, small government party.
Labor, led by union boss Amir Peretz who oversaw the Histadrut labor union
as it plunged into bankruptcy taking several workers' pension funds with it,
and held the national economy hostage to its illegal general strikes,
maintains that Israel must adopt the South American socialist model that has
done such wonders for the Argentinean, Venezuelan and Bolivian economies.
The front-running Kadima party has outlined no economic platform. Acting
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert both promises to continue the free market reforms
Netanyahu pushed through as finance minister, and to reverse them, while his
deputy Shimon Peres promises an end to "piggish capitalism."
Kadima's incoherence serves its needs in the election season because the
only question that the media considers relevant or newsworthy is whether a
candidate or a party expresses sufficient "social sensitivity." Translated
into talking points this means that candidates are judged by the amount of
contempt they level against Netanyahu for having implemented free market
reforms.
While Netanyahu's reforms caused a large, sustained drop in unemployment and
moved Israel from the brink of economic collapse to become the fastest
growing market in the Western world, the media barrages the public with
unsubstantiated, and transparently imaginary statistics proclaiming that a
quarter of Israel's children are starving.
Aside from the invisible hundreds of thousands of starving kids, no one
seems to care that workers just barely scraping the borders of the middle
class are paying 33-40 percent income taxes, or that VAT - a regressive tax
if there ever was one - is 16.5 percent. It doesn't seem to bother anyone
that our markets are run by monopolists that overcharge us for everything
from food to housing to banking services because they can because they are
monopolists.
All the journalists who ooze "social sensitivity" never seem to make a
connection between overtaxed business owners and unemployment or low wages
for skilled and unskilled, educated and uneducated workers. Given the
media's love affair with South American socialism, it should surprise no one
that those minor parties that have something to say about the economy
generally say that they hate and oppose capitalism and small government.
ASIDE FROM the economy, there is the issue of Israel's constitutional
crisis. During the course of the campaign, there have been several notable
episodes which illustrated the depths of Israel's constitutional morass.
First we have the interim government's treatment of the Knesset's
investigative committee into police brutality against protesters at Amona
last month. Acting in clear contempt of the Knesset, Internal Security
Minister Gideon Ezra and Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz barred their senior
officers from testifying before the committee. The fact that as government
ministers in a parliamentary democracy they are constitutionally bound to
uphold the decisions of the Knesset seems to have made no impression
whatsoever on the ministers - who have the full support of the media in
their law-breaking activities.
Then we have the odd decision by Attorney-General Menachem Mazuz to appoint
himself arbiter of what decisions the interim government is allowed to make
before the elections. Last week, Mazuz ordered the Health Ministry's
medications committee, which is responsible for determining what
prescription drugs should be covered by state medical insurance, to desist
from convening until after the elections. It never seemed to occur to Mazuz
that it might not be any of his business whether the committee convenes
since absolutely no legal issue is raised by the schedule of its meetings.
Mazuz's decision to turn a committee of civil servants into a matter under
his purview is just the latest in a series of dubious if not downright
unacceptable maneuvers on his part that have served to empower him far
beyond what any reasonable person would deem reasonable.
Following Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's massive stroke in January, Mazuz
invented a bit of Orwellian legalistic gobbledygook by defining Sharon's
condition as of one of "temporary incapacity of a permanent character."
Mazuz had good reason to act as he did. If he had simply declared that
Sharon was "permanently incapacitated" - which he is - then a complicated,
multi-step procedure for selecting and approving a new prime minister and
government would have been set in motion, the results of which are unclear.
But by declaring Sharon "temporarily incapacitated on a permanent basis,"
Mazuz blocked that procedure from taking place. In so doing, he seized the
power to select the prime minister from Israel's elected officials,
effectively anointing himself the prime minister's sole elector.
Israel's constitutional crisis has two central characteristics - the Knesset
is emasculated and the legal establishment as represented by the
Attorney-General and the Supreme Court is disproportionately empowered. By
all rights, this state of affairs should have been a major issue in the
election campaign. Yet, it has received no attention.
Before his temporary incapacitation of a permanent nature, Sharon and his PR
consultants began espousing support for constitutional reform that would
transform Israel from a parliamentary democracy to a presidential democracy.
Since Olmert replaced Sharon, Kadima has been all but silent on the issue.
For its part, Labor members have repeatedly voiced their satisfaction with
the current imbalance of powers. This makes sense because in constitutional
matters, the state prosecution and the Supreme Court routinely rule in
accordance with their members' leftist political beliefs thus empowering the
Left well beyond its numerical support among the public.
NETANYAHU HAS stated his preference for a reform of the method of electing
Knesset members. The Likud supports splitting the ballots so that 60 members
of Knesset will be selected directly by voters on a regional basis while the
other 60 will continue to be elected by the proportional party lists.
There can be little doubt that a movement away from proportional elections
will not only increase accountability by tying parliamentarians to their
constituents, it will also eliminate some of the smallest splinter parties
and so stabilize Israeli governments.
In the next few years, Israel's security, economic growth and constitutional
order will all be challenged in both familiar and unfamiliar ways. Sadly,
because of our media's temporary bias and superficiality of a permanent
nature which causes it to squelch all public debate on all the issues of the
day, as we go to the ballot box next week, we will be casting votes that
will influence how those challenges will be met without the least awareness
of either the issues at stake or the manner in which the political parties
will contend with them.
Then again, since they have never been challenged on any of these issues,
most of our politicians are also unaware of them.
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: Transcript: Kol Yisrael Radio Interview of Esther Pollard
on US Supreme Court Dismissal of Jonathan's Petition
Transcript: Kol Yisrael Radio Interview of Esther Pollard
on US Supreme Court Dismissal of Jonathan's Petition
J4JP Release - March 21, 2006
Kol Yisrael's broadcast anchor, Yaacov Achimeir, interviewed Esther Pollard
in Hebrew on Reshet Bet, 21 March 2006. The transcript of the interview
appears below as translated by J4JP.
YAACOV ACHIMEIR: We turn now to Esther Pollard, the wife of Jonathan
Pollard, convicted of espionage on behalf of Israel - he is sitting in
prison in Butner USA. I ask you, dear lady, do you have any expectations of
the upcoming Israeli elections in Israel?
ESTHER POLLARD: Here's the issue, Yaacov, with regard to what is happening
to my husband: this is the first time in the history of modern espionage
that an agent has been forced to face a court of law on his own, in the
country where he operated, without receiving any support from the country
which sent him and for whom he sacrificed himself.
Yaacov, it is now 21 years! Ayfoh HaBoosha?! (Where is the sense of shame?!)
To this very day they are not working for Jonathan's release and not giving
him any backing!
YAACOV ACHIMEIR: But, Prime Ministers, when they meet with the Presidents -
the latest one is President Bush - the say that they keep bringing up the
issue of Jonathan Pollard with the president.
ESTHER POLLARD: That's just what they tell the Israeli media. But to us they
have been saying, look there is still an on-going legal initiative. But now,
Yaacov, no one can claim that there is still an on-going legal initiative!
It is over. Every additional minute that Jonathan remains in prison his
life is at risk. The government - the Prime Minster must act at once -
before this day is over!
The decision of the Supreme Court to dismiss Jonathan's case - like all of
the previous dismissals by the courts - was based solely on technical
considerations, with absolutely no consideration given to the substance of
Jonathan's petition.
YAACOV ACHIMEIR: They refused, in the United States.
ESTHER POLLARD: They refused to hear it.
YAACOV ACHIMEIR: They refused to allow his attorneys to see additional
documents.
ESTHER POLLARD: No. That's not it. They simply refused to hear the petition.
This is exactly what happened with all of Jonathan's previous petitions as
well. People have the impression that perhaps Jonathan's case was not
convincing enough - but that is not so - the court simply rejected the
petition without ever hearing it, without ever considering the actual merits
of the case - on technicality only.
YAACOV ACHIMEIR: But now I would like to return to my first question, the
one that is close to my heart, with your permission, Esther Pollard: what do
you expect from whomever is be elected to lead the Government of Israel
with regard to the issue of Mr. Pollard, your husband?
ESTHER POLLARD: (responds with a pun in Hebrew) You know, even the ordinary
citizen on the street understands that whomever is willing to leave a
wounded soldier "me'akhora" (behind) is not capable of leading the nation
"Kadima!" (forward)
Whenever I am out in public, people come up to me again and again to express
their outrage at the ingratitude and irresponsibility of the Government,
which instead of freeing from captivity the one who served the State and
saved the lives of Israeli citizens, just threw him to the dogs.
As long as we do not see Jonathan Pollard here, there is no relying on the
promises of any political party or of any Israeli leader.
YAACOV ACHIMEIR: And how do you feel about the struggle that is not being
waged in the United States by American Jews on the issue of Pollard, perhaps
out of fear that that will be accused of dual loyalty?
ESTHER POLLARD: They take their marching orders, their instructions, from
the Government of Israel. As long as the Government of Israel continues to
turn its back on Jonathan everyone else will continue to do the same.
I want to repeat and reiterate: He is in mortal danger. Every additional
moment, every additional second that Jonathan remains in prison, his life
hangs in the balance. There is no reason to wait to bring him home in a
coffin, G-d forbid!
If Ehud Olmert - our current prime minister - if he does not immediately
turn to President Bush to demand an immediate end to this travesty, and to
free my husband after 21 years in prison, then Mr. Olmert will personally be
sentencing Jonathan to death.
YAACOV ACHIMEIR: I thank you very much, Esther Pollard..
ESTHER POLLARD: Thank you.
YAACOV ACHIMEIR: Good morning to you! And good morning to your husband
Jonathan, in FCI Butner in the United States!
SEE ALSO: (coming soon to www.jonathanpollard.org)
Hebrew Text: Pollards Respond to US Supreme Court Dismissal of Petition -
Media Release
English Text: Pollards Respond to US Supreme Court Dismissal of Petition -
Media Release
Click here to hear the above interview in Hebrew
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: Lieberman: Olmert plan strengthens Hamas
Lieberman: Olmert plan strengthens Hamas
By Mazal Mualem Haaretz 21 March 2006
www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/696507.html
Yisrael Beiteinu Chairman Avigdor Lieberman yesterday launched his first
attack on Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's plan for a further unilateral
withdrawal in the West Bank.
"The more Kadima talks, with excessive confidence, about Olmert's diplomatic
program, the less likely it becomes that we will be in the next government
headed by Olmert," Lieberman said in an interview with Haaretz, adding that
the plan already has caused Israel damage vis-a-vis Hamas, the international
community and Israeli Arab extremists.
Many political pundits have cited Lieberman as a likely member of Olmert's
coalition after the elections. However, Lieberman told Haaretz that he would
not sit in any government that included Olmert's withdrawal plan in its
guidelines.
"Olmert's plan not only strengthens Hamas in the Palestinian Authority. It
also proves to Sheikh Ra'ad Salah [head of the Islamic Movement Northern
Branch] and extremist elements among Israeli Arabs that not only pressure
from outside, but also pressure from within will in the end guarantee them
effective autonomy in the first stage, a state of all its citizens in the
next, and ultimately, the end of the State of Israel," he said.
"Unilateral concessions do not achieve security; they bolster terror," he
continued. "Fleeing the territories is an end in itself."
Recent polls have shown Yisrael Beiteinu gaining strength, making it a
potentially important player after the elections. Lieberman sees the attacks
against him by both Labor and Likud as confirmation of his importance, and
believes that he may even have the power to determine the shape of the next
coalition.
However, Likud's recent campaign to label him a "leftist" who plans to form
a government with Kadima, Labor and Meretz - which was prompted both by
Lieberman's attack last week on Likud Chai rman Benjamin Netanyahu, whom he
termed a serial panicker, and by his public refusal to be part of a
"blocking majority" that would prevent a Kadima-led government - could
potentially cost Lieberman some support on the right. This prompted him to
issue his denunciation of Olmert's withdrawal plan yesterday.
In the interview, Lieberman noted that three reasons were given for the
disengagement from Gaza: It would improve Israel's security, strengthen
moderate elements in the PA, and enable Israel to strengthen its hold on
West Bank settlements. But in practice, he said, all three arguments have
proven false: "Since we fled Gush Katif, not a day has passed without
Qassams and mortars falling not only on Sderot, but also throughout the
western Negev"; Hamas won the PA elections; and instead of saving West Bank
settlements, "we're talking about evacuating 90 percent of the territory."
"It's clear that a flight from Judea and Samaria would perpetuate Hamas rule
for the next century, and prove to the Palestinians that they can achieve
diplomatic gains through pressure and terror," he added.
The plan also has caused damage internationally, he said, because "the
entire world now takes this [the withdrawal] as a given. Arik [Sharon] was
far more taciturn, and rightly so. He succeeded thanks to his silence. A
prime minister must accomplish things via actions, not words. You can talk
in the opposition."
Lieberman also scorned Olmert's plan for "convergence" behind the separation
fence, citing examples such as the Maginot Line, the Bar-Lev Line and the
Berlin Wall to support his contention that no wall in history has ever
succeeded. "Even if we returned to the 1967 borders, to the last inch, no
one believes that we would be able to live here in security, that the terror
would end," he added.
Lieberman argued that Israel must ignore the PA and reach an agreement
instead with Egypt, Jordan and the Quartet on Israel's final borders.
Without such an agreement in hand, he said, there is no point to any further
withdrawal.
He also told Haaretz that if he did join a Kadima government, he would
demand the public security portfolio.
Likud and Labor sources charged in response to the interview that Lieberman
and Olmert already have agreed to form a coalition, and that since Olmert's
plan will probably not be implemented during his first year in office in any
case, Lieberman's opposition to it is no obstacle.
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: Two reports - Security Chaos and Proliferation of Small Arms
PCHR
Palestinian Centre for Human Rights
#1 Security Chaos and Proliferation of Small Arms
Extra-judicial Assassination of Citizens for Suspected Treason
Field Update
21 March 2006
2 Palestinians Killed by Palestinian Armed Groups in the West Bank
Two citizens from Salfit were killed in the span of 48 hours, in two
incidents of extra-judicial assassination, perpetrated by armed Palestinian
groups against suspects of collaboration with Israeli security services.
PCHR's initial investigations indicate that at approximately 12:30 on
Monday, 20 March 2006, a civilian vehicle stopped in front of the home of
Ahmad Nasim Ahmad Salim, a 25-year old resident of Salfit, southwest of
Nablus. A masked gunman, armed with an automatic rifle, came out of the car
and rang the door bell. When the aforementioned citizen came out, the gunman
fired at him, hitting him with a bullet in the mouth. The man was taken to
the emergency hospital in the town, where he died shortly after arrival.
At approximately 20:00 on Saturday 18 March 2006, an unidentified gunman
fired at Khaled Samih Younis (40) as he and his wife were standing in front
of their house in the Kfar Saba neighborhood in Qalqilya. He was hit with
several bullets that killed him instantly.
It is noted that, on 26 February 2006, the body of Kamel Yousef Khalil
El-Edra (35) was found in an open area in Hebron. He was killed by an
unidentified armed group. PCHR's initial investigation indicated that the
killing was motivated by suspicion of collaborating with Israeli security.
PCHR condemns the falling of victims through extra-judicial assassinations
by armed Palestinian groups for suspicion of collaboration with Israeli
security, and:
- States that these crimes are a form of extra-judicial
assassination, and a flagrant violation of human rights;
- Legal dealing with suspected collaborators with the occupation is
the task and duty of the Palestinian National Authority and its branches.
This process must be conducted within the framework of the law, ensuring the
legal rights of suspects. This includes their right to a fair trial; and
- Reiterates its strong rejection of the death penalty under any and
all circumstances. This penalty is a flagrant violation of human rights,
especially the right to life and the right to freedom from torture and cruel
and inhumane treatment.
#2 Security Chaos and Proliferation of Small Arms
Attacking Public Institutions and Officials
Field Update
21 March 2006
Attacking the Director of Military Police in Khan Yunis
An armed group intercepted the vehicle carrying the Director of Military
Police in Khan Yunis, and severely beat him in the central part of the Gaza
Strip.
PCHR's initial investigation indicates that at approximately 22:30 on
Monday, 20 March 2006, a "Hyundi" with 5 gunmen inside intercepted a
military vehicle transporting the director of military police in Khan Yunis,
the officer Reziq Mohammad Abu Shahma (44), and 3 assistants. The incident
took place along Salah el-Deen Road, near Al-Quds Open University Campus
west of El-Bureij refugee camp. As soon as the military vehicle was stopped,
2 cars came from the east. The "Subaru" and "Renault" were full of gunmen
firing in the air and in the direction of the military vehicle. They ordered
Abu Shahma and the others with him to come out of the car. After they came
out, the gunmen severely beat them all over the body. The gunmen then
withdrew from the scene.
Abu Shahma was taken to Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in Deir El-Balah, from
where he was transferred to the Palestinian Red Crescent Society Hospital in
Khan Yunis due to the severity of the injuries.
PCHR strongly condemns this attack, which constitute a continuum of the
state of security chaos in the Occupied Palestinian Territory. The Centre
calls upon the PNA, represented by the Attorney-General, to investigate
these attacks, and to bring the perpetrators to justice.
Public Document
**************************************
For more information please call PCHR office in Gaza, Gaza Strip, on +972 8
2824776 - 2825893
PCHR, 29 Omer El Mukhtar St., El Remal, PO Box 1328 Gaza, Gaza Strip.
E-mail: pchr@pchrgaza.org, Webpage http://www.pchrgaza.org
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: Health Ministry: Bird Flu Poses No Danger To The Public
Health Ministry: Bird flu poses no danger to public
21 Mar 2006
(Communicated by the Health Ministry Spokesman)
As of 21 March 2006, avian flu has been found in the turkey coops of four
agricultural settlements in the south and center of Israel. In a further two
settlements, chickens have been found dead from bird flu. The disease has
not been found in a single person in Israel, and the poultry handlers
initially suspected of having been infected were examined by the health
services and found to be free of the disease.
Immediately following the discovery of the outbreak, the ministries of
Health and Agriculture carried their prepared guidelines and began culling
affected birds. On instruction from the World Health Organization, all bird
life in a 3-kilometer radius of the center of the infection are being
destroyed.
The Health and Agriculture ministries are acting in accordance to the
instructions issued by all relevant international organizations. All persons
regularly handling poultry or who are regularly in their proximity are being
tested by the health authorities.
All poultry coops in Israel, and all agricultural produce markets, are
managed to the highest professional standards. They are scrupulously clean
and strictly supervised by the relevant authorities. The country's health
and agricultural systems are among the best in the world and the supervision
of animal and public health, as well as food products, is meticulous.
The government of Israel will continue to observe all relevant international
guidelines. There is no reason whatsoever to forgo visiting Israel due to
this unfortunate outbreak. Israel is one of the most advanced states
worldwide as regards agriculture and health care and there is no risk
whatsoever to the health either of its residents or of people who come to
visit.
[For further information in Hebrew: www.health.gov.il ]
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: Pollards Grateful After US Supreme Court Dismissal
Justice4JP Release - March 21, 2006
Jonathan and Esther Pollard wish to express admiration, gratitude and
profound respect to their American attorneys, Eliot Lauer and Jacques
Semmelman, for their heroic, undying, untiring efforts to secure justice for
Jonathan Pollard, against insuperable odds. Their courage, determination,
dedication and devotion to the truth has done the Jewish People great honor
and been an enormous Kiddush HaShem.
Fighting a battle for justice - uphill all the way - against 3 government
agencies determined to prevent the truth in this case from ever coming to
light, Lauer and Semmelman fought all the way to the Supreme Court without
ever breaking stride or becoming discouraged in the face of utter corruption
and behind-the-scenes subversion.
The American Justice, Intelligence and Defense Departments have for 21 years
thrown their full weight into subverting the rule of law to ensure that
Jonathan Pollard, the Jewish agent of the Jewish State, never gets his day
in court and that he remain in prison as a constant symbol for use against
Israel and against the American Jewish community. In their intransigent,
two-decades-long subversion of justice for Jonathan Pollard, these agencies
have repeatedly demonstrated that their hatred for Israel far outweighs any
regard they have for the rule of law or for the American Constitution.
Even the support of some of the greatest legal minds in America was of no
avail. Among the influential signees of Amicus Briefs to the court in
support of Pollard's case were such illustrious names as Anthony Amsterdam,
Charles Ogletree, Charles E. Rice and Michael Tigar. Among the important
legal organizations supporting Jonathan's brief were the American Civil
Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.
This heavyweight support was of no avail in face of the massive subversion
of the courts by the Justice, Intelligence and Defense Departments. Their
stubborn opposition caused the entire legal struggle to be calculatedly
sandbagged at the outset of every filing, and the merits of Pollard's case
were never reached. Every filing was summarily dismissed on spurious and
flimsy technicalities.
Refusing to give in to the subversion, and more determined than ever, Lauer
and Semmelman took Pollard's the case all the way to the American Supreme
Court. This final avenue of appeal behaved no differently than the lower
courts: it subverted justice by simply refusing to hear Pollard's petition.
Contrary to misinformed media reports, Jonathan Pollard did not lose the
case; it simply was never heard.
Justice4JP released the following statement to the Israeli media today.
Translation below is provided by J4JP:
US Supreme Court Hammers Final Nail in the Coffin
of Hopes to Secure Justice for Jonathan Pollard Via Legal Avenues.
J4JP Release - March 21, 2006
ESTHER POLLARD: "Jonathan's very life is at stake. If the Prime Minister
will not respond at once - even before the day is done - by making an
immediate appeal to President Bush to release my husband, then he personally
will be sentencing Jonathan to death."
The US Supreme Court yesterday dismissed Jonathan Pollard's final petition,
driving the last nail into the coffin of hopes to secure justice for
Jonathan Pollard via the US legal system. Here are some of the comments
Esther Pollard made in the Israeli media today:
"The decision of the Supreme court is disappointing but not surprising. The
dismissal of this petition, just like all the ones that preceded it, was
based solely upon legal technicality; the merits of the case were never
reached."
"Israel's abandonment of her agent, my husband, Jonathan Pollard, was never
a problem that could be solved via the American legal system."
"The real issue is: this is the first time in the history of modern
espionage that that an agent has been forced to face a court of law on his
own, in the country where he operated, without receiving any support from
the country which sent him and for whom he sacrificed himself."
"From the outset Jonathan never had any chance of receiving justice from the
Americans as long as the country that sent him, and for whom he sacrificed
himself, continued to turn its back on him."
"Whenever I am out in public, people come up to me again and again to
express their outrage at the ingratitude and irresponsibility of the
Government of Israel, which instead of freeing from captivity the one who
served the State and saved the lives of Israeli citizens, just threw him to
the dogs."
"For years we were told to be patient, that there is an on-going legal
initiative. No one can say that any longer. It is over. This was the final
nail in the coffin of our hopes of securing justice for Jonathan via the
American system of justice."
"Every additional minute that Jonathan spends in prison he is in mortal
danger. Every additional moment, every additional second that Jonathan
remains in prison, his life hangs in the balance. There is no reason to wait
to bring him home in a coffin, G-d forbid!"
"If the Prime Minister will not respond at once - even before the day is
done - by making an immediate appeal to President Bush to release my
husband, then he personally will be sentencing Jonathan to death." -30-
SEE ALSO:
Transcript: Kol Yisrael Radio Interview of Esther Pollard on US Supreme
Court Dismissal of Jonathan's Petition
Hebrew Text: Pollards Respond to US Supreme Court Dismissal of Petition -
Media Release
"
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From: imra@netvision.net.il
To: imra@imra.org.il
Subject: Excerpts: Bad news for Jordan's mothers.
Opportunity for secularists in Arab society.21 March 2006
Excerpts: Bad news for Jordan's mothers. Opportunity for secularists in Arab
society.21 March 2006
+++JORDAN TIMES 21 Mar.'06: "Editorial:
Moms in Jordan - much to celebrate?"
QUOTES FROM TEXT:
"In theory things are bad enough. In practice, they're even worse.
"a Jordanian woman stands twice as many chances of dying while giving
birth
as a Western woman"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------EXCERPTS:
. . .
... a quick look under the surface exposes a gloomy picture of the status of
mothers in this country.
In theory, things are bad enough. In practice, they're even worse.
If women in general are still discriminated against through several
important pieces of legislation, on mothers, in particular, the negative
repercussions from such discrimination are even heavier.
... Women married to foreigners still cannot pass their nationality on to
their children, ... .
Fiscal, labour, civil status and pension legislation is also highly
discriminatory.
Maternity leave for working mothers is still a ridiculous 70 days.
Support infrastructure is nonexistent: Unless you are rich - really rich -
forget about nurseries or specialised facilities.
One commendable project - the Family Health Institute in Sweileh - offering
at affordable cost a range of services related to the care of mothers and
their children, including medical, legal and psychological counselling, has
unfortunately remained an isolated experiment.
. . .
Far from being able to count on the protection they should be granted in
Islam, single mothers represent indeed one of the weakest segments of
society.
... we still do not have real shelters where abused mothers can safely find
refuge with their children. The same applies to rehab programmes and
follow-up on cases of abuse.
. . .
.... A Jordanian woman stands twice as many chances of dying while giving
birth as a Western woman.
So much for our healthcare system and great respect for motherhood. Maybe we
should seize the occasion to put the matter right. It is long overdue.
+++AL-AHRAM WEEKLY 16-22 Mar.'06: "Inner renewal"
HEADING:"While much of the blame for the waning of Arab secularism is due to
Arab secular forces, opportunities are emerging for a secular renaissance,
writes
Amr Hamzawy* writer with The Carnegie Endowment for
International Peace, Washington,D.C.
QUOTES FROM TEXT:
"established wide popular bases for religious currents while marginalising
secular forces"
"the collapse of Arab societies middle classes have deprived liberals"
"seculariasts will gain a high degree of moral credibility that other paries
lack ... suspicion of rulers' intentions as well as the Islamists' history
of violence"
We continue to persist in interpreting the failure of liberal and leftist
parties in recent Arab elections as due to either the process of
Islamicisation that most of our societies have undergone since the 1970s,
and which has established wide popular bases for religious currents while
marginalising secular forces, or to the weakness of the political message
put forth by secularists and the frailty of their partisan organisations in
light of oppressive measures taken by ruling regimes amid a general lack of
pluralism....such interpretations ...reduce a complex social reality that
must be explained in detail ...to determine ...a possible future role for
secularists ...Arab politics.
..."Islamicisation" ...one aspect of the transformation taking place in
Arab societies .... Other aspects are ...domination of Western lifestyles
in urban areas, the spread of consumerism and epidemic poverty, corruption,
and social marginalisation on an unprecedented scale. ... the issues they
raise provide opportunity for liberal and leftist political movements to
develop popular support based either on liberal defence of personal and
civil freedoms in opposition to the logic of religious denial, or through
strengthening the left on the basis of social justice and protection of the
marginalised.
It is strange that nothing of the sort has taken place in Arab societies,
and, on the contrary, Islamist trends have reformulated the issue of justice
to become foremost a religious concern. ... .
... the collapse of Arab societies' middle classes have deprived liberals
from fully entrenching themselves on the social map ... Islamist currents
...... have outsmarted harsh government oppression by resorting to society
and exploiting the room available for independent activity, whether in
preaching or charity work, to mobilise social bases in their support. These
bases have carried their political message to both countryside and cities,
as shown by recent experiences in legislative and municipal elections in a
number of Arab societies.
...the secularists...chose either minimal alliances with authoritarian
regimes, in order to preserve their presence in political life, or retreat
to a civil arena ... separating the state and its institutions from
citizens. ... rushing to please ruling regimes and fearing opposing them on
the one hand, and forsaking politics and focusing on civil society on the
other, ... the two strategic choices Arab secular powers chose over recent
decades, together causing the effective exit of these powers from a
political game that has come to be monopolised by ruling regimes and
Islamist currents.
...responsibility for the failure of liberal and leftist parties falls on
themselves.
The first entry point is ... discourse that focuses on the values of
citizenship and human rights. The struggle of Arab secularism here is with
ruling regimes that refuse to concede their authoritarian dominance over
their societies' capacities and resources. ...Islamist currents continue to
place restrictions on personal and civil freedoms ... their positions on
non-Muslim minorities and women's rights.
.... All that is desired is ... for secularists to begin addressing popular
bases ...
The second entry point is ...participating in legislative and municipal
elections, .. .
Finally, current political dynamics in a number of Arab societies, such as
Morocco, Egypt, Lebanon, Kuwait and Bahrain, grant a golden opportunity to
secularists to form new types of alliances with reformists in ruling regimes
and moderate Islamist currents in the hope of developing a national
consensus on the notion of democracy. ... secularists will gain a high
degree of moral credibility that the other parties lack due to the regimes'
authoritarian practices and legacy of popular suspicion of the rulers'
intention, as well as the Islamists' history of violence and a contemporary
discourse still full of vagueness and restrictions.
* The writer is an Egyptian researcher at the Carnegie Endowment for
International Peace, Washington, DC.
Sue Lerner, Associate IMRA
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[911TruthAction] Digest Number 1184
There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Pirate to Parrot: Voice Caught Prompting Bush
From: Moondancermom@aol.com
2. 9/11 Updates 3/21 tvnl news
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
3. A Day in the Life: 3/21/6
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
4. Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
5. RE: the scenario that Boing 757 on the flight 77
From: APFN <apfn@apfn.org>
6. Re: Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
7. Re: No Plane Theory
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
8. Re: Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
9. Check this picture out
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
10. Re: Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
11. Huge Reaction To Sheen 9/11 Story
From: Moondancermom@aol.com
12. Re: No Plane Theory
From: Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
13. Fwd: [Conspiracy Archive] Update: Mar. 21st, 2006
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
14. Re: No Plane Theory
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
15. Re: No Plane Theory
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
16. Re: No Plane Theory
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
17. Ohio - Lawyer arrested for speaking out
From: Mofmars3@wmconnect.com
18. Re: No Plane Theory
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
19. Uranium bombing in Iraq contaminates Europe
From: Moondancermom@aol.com
20. Re: No Plane Theory
From: Matt Walch <caribbean10@yahoo.com>
21. RE: 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists Run Amok (from NY Magazine)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
22. Re: No Plane Theory
From: Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
23. Fwd: [WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED] Kissinger sez it again...
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
24. Re: No Plane Theory
From: "Dick Eastman" <de1949@nwinfo.net>
25. Re: No Plane Theory
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:56:10 EST
From: Moondancermom@aol.com
Subject: Pirate to Parrot: Voice Caught Prompting Bush
Bush in France with Chirac. His every intonation is in imitation of a voice,
captured by camera audio equipment, shepherding him.
Notice the stumble Bush makes that his prompting voice didn;t in the
beginning of his speech when you hear Bush say, "And I look working ... I look
foward to working with President Chirac..." Also notice that there is a female
voice prompting Chirac. These points make it very clear that this is not a
broadcasting delay.
_http://youtube.com/watch?v=aCMVb9Ori2s_
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=aCMVb9Ori2s)
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:02:24 -0000
From: "reggie501" <reggie501@optonline.net>
Subject: 9/11 Updates 3/21 tvnl news
9/11 News : http://www.tvnewslies.org/news/#911
� Paramedic who worked at WTC morgue dies of respiratory illness - A
41-year-old paramedic who worked at a morgue for months after the
Sept. 11, 2001, attack on the World Trade Center was buried Monday
after dying of an asbestos-related cancer.
� Actor Charlie Sheen Questions Official 9/11 Story - Calls for truly
independent investigation, joins growing ranks of prominent credible
whistleblowers
� FBI Agent Slams Bosses at Moussaoui Trial - FBI agent who arrested
Zacarias Moussaoui in August 2001 testified Monday he spent almost
four weeks trying to warn U.S. officials about the radical Islamic
student pilot but "criminal negligence" by superiors in Washington
thwarted a chance to stop the 9/11 attacks.
� New York Magazine - The Ground Zero Grassy Knoll - How could they,
an hour after the first World Trade Center crash, allow an obviously
hostile airplane to smash into the Pentagon, headquarters of the
entire military-industrial complex, for chrissakes? And why did the
Defense Department choose to stage an extraordinary number of military
exercises on 9/11 occupying matriel and spreading confusion about who
was who on that day?
� 9/11: Defense Contractor and CNN collaborated on Analysis of
Collapse of World Trade Center Towers - An outfit entitled FACS
(Foundation for American Communications), "secured Weidlinger
engineers as a resource for journalists. The firm is a leader in
defense-related blast effects research and design programs for more
than four decades." The mission of FACS, as posted on its website is
"to improve the quality of information reaching the public through the
news".
� Is Another 911 In The Works? - Readers, whose thinking runs ahead
of that of most of us, tell me that another 9/11 event will prepare
the ground for a nuclear attack on Iran.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:25:45 -0500
From: "President, USA Exile Govt." <prez@usa-exile.org>
Subject: A Day in the Life: 3/21/6
GOVERNMENT OF THE USA IN EXILE
Free Americans Reaching Out to Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to
Breathe Free
Via <prez@usa-exile.org>
March 21, 2006
From: Henri the Celt <henrithecelt@gci.net>
Subject: Fw: [UrukNet] - [Daily Information from Occupied Iraq]
uruknet.info
اوروكنت. إنفو
:: information from occupied iraq
:: informazione dall'iraq occupato
Death Squad Democracy
Mike Whitney
The notion that Iraq is now consumed by civil war depends on a number
of assumptions that are inherently false. First of all, it assumes that
the Pentagon is ignoring the fundamental principle which underscores
all wars: "Know your enemy". In this case, there’s no doubt about who
the enemy is; it is the 87% of the Iraqi people who want to see an
immediate end to the American occupation. Therefore, the greatest
threat to American objectives of permanent bases and occupation is the
camaraderie that that manifests itself in the form of Arab solidarity
or Iraqi nationalism. To this end, the Pentagon, through its surrogates
in the media, has created a "self-fulfilling" narrative that civil war
is already under way. Most of the war coverage now makes it appear as
though the violence is generated from ethnic tensions and sectarian
hatred. But is it?...
Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=21713
FLASHBACK: Lies about the “oppression of the Shi‘ah” and others
Muhammad al-Baghdadi
We have heard a lot about how the Shi'ah were supposedly oppressed in
the time when the Arab Socialist Baath Party ruled Iraq. We’ve heard
about how they were supposedly not treated equally with other Iraqis.
In fact, however, these are nothing but lies fabricated as part of a
psychological warfare propaganda campaign aimed at Iraqi citizens – a
campaign waged by the US military and its experts in psychological
warfare in order to pave the way for their occupation of Iraq. We don’t
plan to delve into the details or goals of that sinister campaign here.
Instead we hope to briefly respond to some of the claims they make.
I’ll begin with myself. I come from a Shi'i background, which is to say
that my father is a scion of a Shi'i family. Yet I worked as a
government employee in the Iraqi state, close to the policy makers, and
in fact I participated in the making of policy in the areas of the
economy and administration of the state. But no one ever asked me what
sect I belong to or what my religion is...
Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=21683
Children of Abraham: Death in the Desert
Chris Floyd
...We know from the photographs that one child, the youngest, the baby,
has a gaping wound in his forehead. We can see that one other child, a
girl with a pink ribbon in her hair, is lying on her side and has blood
oozing from the back of her head. The faces of the other children are
turned upwards toward the sun; if they were shot, they were shot in the
back of the head and their wounds are not evident. But we can see that
their bodies, though covered with dust from the rubble, are otherwise
unmarked; they were evidently not crushed in the collapse of the house
during, say, a fierce firefight between U.S. forces and an "al Qaeda
facilitator." They died in some other fashion...
Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=21707
IRAQ: Hundreds of families displaced due to major offensive
IRIN
Hundreds of families have fled the city of Samarra, some 120 km
northwest of the capital, Baghdad, after US coalition and Iraqi forces
launched the biggest air offensive in the country since 2003. "We have
sent volunteers from the disaster department to monitor the situation
and we are preparing ourselves for an emergency," said Ferdous
al-Abadi, spokesperson for the Iraqi Red Crescent Society (IRCS) in
Baghdad.(...) According to a senior official in the Iraq Ministry of
Defence, Ra’ad Shalal, more than 75 insurgents have been captured so
far. He added that there had been no civilian deaths reported since the
operation began. But local doctors say that at least 35 civilians
including women and children have been treated at the local hospital
with injuries caused by the air-strikes. In addition, 18 bodies had
been taken to the hospital since 17 March...
Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=21712
Bush, US media insult Iraq on third anniversary of illegal invasion
Truth About Iraqis
As tens of thousands of people areound the world mark the third
anniversary of the Iraq war with protests and denounciations of the US
policy of unilateral, pre-emptive war, US President George Bush has
delivered a speech low on ethics and reality and heavy on
self-delusional patriotism. Quoth Nedra Pickler of the Associated
Press, in the third paragraph: "We are implementing a strategy that
will lead to victory in Iraq," the president assured a public that is
increasingly skeptical that he has a plan to end the fighting after the
deaths of more than 2,300 U.S. troops. Pickler did not address the
travesty befalling the Iraqi people until the seventh paragraph: Bush
did not mention the insurgent attacks, the car bombs or the mounting
Iraqi deaths in a two-minute statement to reporters outside the White
House after returning from a weekend at Camp David. Avoiding the word
"war," he called the day "the third anniversary of the beginning of the
liberation of Iraq." Yes, indeed. The liberation of Iraq? Did we not
hear that same phrase 1095 days ago? Unfortunately, Nedra forgot to
mention the thousands of Iraqis killed by gung-ho, trigger-happy US
soldiers...
Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=21718
US soldiers murdered 9 Iraqis including a family
Baghdad Dweller
US death machine slaughtered nine people today including a family, a
father, a mother with their 13 years old boy. The sad joke in this
story is: They are distributing leaflets among the citizens saying:
They did not regard Sunnis as their enemy and that they wanted to
withdraw from Iraq as soon as the country’s newly formed army was able
to stand on its own feet. They ask the citizens to give information
about the insurgents...
Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=21717
[snip]
Baker’s Latest Assignment; tell Bush we lost
Mike Whitney
The cracks and fissures are finally beginning to appear in Fortress
Bush. The AP is reporting that Congress quietly appointed an "Iraq
Study Group" headed by James A. Baker to "assess the Bush
administration’s policies in Iraq and political and economic
developments in the troubled country". In other words, Baker has been
picked to tell Bush that the war is over; we lost. The group was voted
into being with little fanfare to spare the White House any unnecessary
embarrassment, but the message is clear; the adults are finally
stepping in. The war has been so appallingly mismanaged that jittery
American elites are forcing themselves back into the policy-making
apparatus...
Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=21741
State of the Zionist Empire Three Years After the Invasion and
Occupation of Iraq
Hassan A El-Njajjar, Al-Jazeerah.info
...Researchers have found that the Zionist rulers of the American
Empire had expressed their intention to invade Iraq during the 1990s.
This was expressed in a blueprint written by Wolfowitz, Pearl, and
Feith well before they came to power. However, in my book about the
1991 Gulf War "The Gulf War: Overreaction & Excessiveness" (which was
rejected by about 50 US publishers), I argued that leaders of the
Zionist Empire considered Iraq as a threat to be dealt with as far back
as 1988. Back then, the Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and his
foreign minister Shimon Peres pronounced the first public announcement
about targeting Iraq, as it came out stronger from the eight-year
Iran-Iraq War...
Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=21742
Welcome to Liberated Iraq
Entesar Mohammad Ariabi, AlterNet
...I work in one of the largest hospitals in Baghdad. I stood by
helplessly during the 13 years of sanctions and watched my people --
especially children -- die from lack of medicines and poor sanitation.
UNICEF estimated that over 200 children died every day as a direct
result of sanctions. Many people thought that after the U.S. occupied
our country and the sanctions were lifted, the health care of the Iraqi
people would improve. But the occupation has made it worse. Many of the
Iraqi hospitals in cities like Baghdad, Al-Qaim, and Fallujah were
bombed and destroyed. Many ambulances were attacked and health workers
killed, despite the fact that it is illegal under international law to
attack hospitals, ambulances and health workers. After our hospitals
were bombed and looted, millions of dollars were given to contractors
to repair them. We suggested that this money be used to buy things that
we urgently need, but the contractors refused and instead bought
furniture and flowers and superficial things. Meanwhile, we suffer from
a critical shortage of medicines, emergency supplies and anesthesia,
and there is no sterilization in the operation rooms...
Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=21752
Bush and Blair violations to the international law in the economic field
Testimony before the popular international court - Cairo 4/2/2006
Mohsen Khalil, BRussells Tribunal
My testimony shall focus on the violations committed by Bush and Blair
to the international law in the economic filed. This vital and
important side is one of the main targets of the occupation as the
American invasion did not only result into the military occupation of
Iraq, yet an economic occupation as well. As legal violations in the
political, military and human aspects have taken place, similar
violations were also made to the economy...
Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=21757
Operation Smarmier
Ed Naha
Ahh, just another week in Bushzarro world. Six polls released, during
the week, showed the Pretzledent's approval rating hovering between 33
and 39%, with Fox giving him that whopping high figure. (I think Son of
Sam has higher poll numbers and he got his guidance from a neighbor's
talking dog, not Cheney and Rumsfeld.) Plus, about seven in ten
Americans now agree that Iraq is a colossal screw-up, according to all
the polls. What to do? What to do? The Iraqi cheerleading speeches
aren't turning people around. So, in Bushzarro world? The answer is
evident. Attack rural farms north of Samarra! Dub it "Operation
Swarmer." Declare it the "largest air assault" in nearly three years,
which it wasn't. Say we're going after "insurgents," "al-Qaeda," or
"strange criminals"...
Read the full article / Leggi l'articolo completo:
http://www.uruknet.de/?p=21753
[snip]
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From: Larenzo236@aol.com
Date: March 20, 2006 8:31:01 AM EST
Subject: Fwd: 300,000 - 500,000 Marched in Chicago Friday
From: LAdams727@aol.com
Date: March 20, 2006 6:34:25 AM EST
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Fwd: 300,000 - 500,000 Marched in Chicago Friday
From: PJBscomputer@aol.com
Date: March 19, 2006 5:51:18 PM EST
To: LAdams727@aol.com
Subject: 300,00 - 500,000 Marched in Chicago Friday
300,000 Marched in Chicago Friday: Why
Doesn't Anyone Know?
by: Stu Piddy
March 11, 2006 at 17:51:14 America/Los_Angeles
300,000 to 500,000 people marched in Chicago to protest The Border
Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005.
----------
The Police estimated 300,000 according to Channel 2 News Chicago. Which
means there were at least 400,000 to 500,000 people.
LINK
Stu Piddy :: 300,000 Marched in Chicago Friday. Why Doesn't Anyone Know?
I live in Chicago. I didn't know anything about it until I heard about
the march on the news. It was a march apparently organized by word of
mouth and internally in various communities. Yet I live in Uptown which
claims to be the most diverse community in Chicago. Maybe I'm out of
it. �I didn't see anything in the papers about an upcoming march. � It
got a few minutes of coverage on TV. 300,000 to 500,000 people gets a
few minutes of coverage in Chicago, I can't imagine what the coverage
was in the rest of the country.
Here's the on line� link to the Chicago Tribune. If you look very
carefully you will find a single link called "immigrant march"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/
The Saturday Chicago Tribune did show a front page picture of the crowd
with a headline and then a not very detailed article. Seems like they
don't really know much about it either. Their estimate was 100.000
people. Amazing how they low-balled the police estimate which low balls
the organizers estimates as a rule. If the police say there were
300.000 people then that is AT LEAST how many people were there.
Minor on line Coverage from the Chicago Suntimes
http://www.suntimes.com/index/
But it doesn't matter because all the awful politicians in Chicago were
there to support the crowd. They had to. That's 300,000 to 1/2 million
votes ( if everybody there were all to be registered) they could lose.
Even Mayor Daley who has installed TV cameras on many city corners and
hopes to have the entire city monitored electronically ala Big Brother
and who did not endorse John Kerry for president was there.
There is nothing that scares a government more than to see 300 to 500
thousand people in the street...protesting.
And they were protesting against Bush too. They were protesting about
a bill sponsored by Jim Sensenbrenner that seeks mass deportations of
Illegal immigrants, sending illegal �workers to jail and making it a
crime to have aided an illegal immigrant.
Immigrants are concerned about the following developments like
Halliburton's contract to build detention centers which can be used to
house immigrants once the bill is enacted.
The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for
establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment
existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities
in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to
support the rapid development of new programs. The contingency support
contract provides for planning and, if required, initiation of specific
engineering, construction and logistics support tasks to establish,
operate and maintain one or more expansion facilities.
The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S.
Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as
well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency,
such as a natural disaster. In the event of a natural disaster, the
contractor could be tasked with providing housing for ICE personnel
performing law enforcement functions in support of relief efforts.
Estimates of the crowd by the police were 300,000 people according to
CBS affiliate Channel 2 News. But the Chicago Tribune and Suntimes said
there were 100,000. Lou Dobbs reported 75,000.
The Chicago Police are notorious for being accused of low balling the
numbers of people at marches. So why are these numbers being reported
as less than what the Police Reported? Chicago Police were reportedly
shocked at the amount of people. There were no arrests.
And why has there been almost no coverage? It is because the media is
in effect a state-corporate controlled media.
Halliburton is preparing detention camps for those who disagree with
the new state media.
The new Security State is a seemingly fast developing enterpirse�
trying to catch up with events as they unfold.
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From: CherielJ@aol.com
Date: March 20, 2006 3:31:20 AM EST
To: detox@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Rachel's: Fluoridation: Time for a Second Look?
Rachel's:� Fluoridation: Time for a Second Look?
From: r...@math.missouri.org
Sun, Mar 19, 2006
http://www.rachel.org/bulletin/index.cfm?issue_ID=2001
#724 - Fluoridation: Time For A Second Look?, May 10, 2001
by Paul, Ellen and Michael Connett*
In 1997 the union representing scientists, engineers and lawyers
at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in Washington,
D.C., voted to support a California citizen initiative to stop
fluoridation of public drinking water. In 1999 the union's
vice-president released a paper explaining the union's opposition
to fluoridation.[1]
Fluoridation is the practice of adding fluoride to the public water
supply to reduce dental decay. U.S. fluoridation trials began in
1945 and by 1992 approximately 56% of the U.S. public received its
water from fluoridated systems.[2]
Typically, fluoride-containing (or -generating) compounds are added
to water to bring the level up to 1 milligram of fluoride ion per
liter (1 part per million). In 1986 EPA set a Maximum Contaminant
Level (MCL) for fluoride in drinking water at 4 ppm.[3] The MCL was
based on only one adverse health effect: skeletal fluorosis, a
crippling bone disease.
Fluoridation of public water supplies has stirred passionate debate
for over 50 years. Now new data is refining the debate. It appears
that some of the early claims for fluoridation's benefits were
inflated. In recent years tooth decay has declined in both fluoridated
and non-fluoridated communities. In fact, the largest U.S. survey
indicates that the benefit to fluoridated communities amounts to
0.6 fewer decayed tooth surfaces per child, which is less than one
percent of the tooth surfaces in a child's mouth.[4]
The public health community justified medicating whole communities
via public drinking water using certain arguments that recent
research has now shown to be false. For example, in 1945 scientists
believed that fluoride had to be swallowed to be effective. However,
the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has recently acknowledged
that fluoride's mechanism of action is primarily topical, not
systemic.[5] This means that you don't need to swallow fluoride to
reap its tiny benefits.
A second early belief, now known to be false, is that fluoride is
an essential nutrient. There is no evidence of any disease related
to fluoride deficiency. Natural levels of fluoride in human milk
(0.01 ppm) are approximately a hundred times less than baby formula
reconstituted with fluoridated water.[6]
A third early belief was that dental fluorosis (a defect of the
tooth enamel caused by fluoride's interference with the growing
tooth) would occur in only about 10% of the children drinking water
fluoridated at 1 ppm and would occur only in its mildest form. Today
fluorosis occurs on two or more teeth in 30% of children in areas
where the water is fluoridated, and not all in its mildest form.[7]
A fourth early belief was that 1 ppm fluoride in drinking water
provided an ample margin of safety against toxic effects. Not only
is there no safety margin for dental fluorosis but there is growing
evidence that there may be no safety margin for changes to bone
structure and impacts on the brain, thyroid, and other soft tissues,
especially when it is coupled with nutrient deficiencies, particularly
iodide.
THE EVIDENCE
1) In 1998 the results of a long-term, low-dose rat study were
published.[8] Two groups of rats were exposed to two different kinds
of fluoride at 1 ppm in distilled water. A third group received
only distilled water. Amyloid deposits (associated with Alzheimer's
Disease and other forms of dementia) were elevated in the brains
of both fluoridated groups compared to the control group. The authors
speculate that fluoride enables aluminum to cross the blood-brain
barrier.
2) Millions of people in India and China suffer a crippling bone
disease called skeletal fluorosis, caused by moderate to high natural
levels of fluoride (1.5 to 9 ppm) in their water.[9] Skeletal
fluorosis has several stages of severity, with the less severe being
chronic joint pain. "Because some of the clinical symptoms mimic
arthritis, the first two clinical phases of skeletal fluorosis could
be easily misdiagnosed."[3] Arthritis is now at epidemic levels in
the U.S. Fluoride's plausible contribution has been ignored, but
needs to be taken seriously.
3) Since fluoridation began in 1945 our exposure to other sources
of fluoride has increased substantially. These include processing
food and beverages with fluoridated water; air pollution from
fluoride emitting industries; pesticide residues; vitamins; and
dental products. If 1 ppm in drinking water were the only source
of fluoride, the average person would ingest 2 milligrams (mg) of
fluoride each day, though some may get less because they use bottled
water, or they drink less water than the average adult. In 1991,
the federal Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) estimated
that the range of exposure in communities with approximately 1 ppm
fluoride in the water was 1.58 to 6.6 mg per day.[10]
4) The dose of 1.58 to 6.6 mg per day overlaps the dose found to
depress the functioning of the human thyroid gland. At 2.27 to 4.54
mg/day, fluoride has been found to "completely relieve" the symptoms
of hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid).[11] With fluoride's known
capacity to depress thyroid activity, it seems that there may be a
link between current fluoride consumption and the prevalence of
hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid). More than twenty million
people in the U.S. receive treatment for thyroid problems and many
others are thought to go undiagnosed.[12]
5) Fluoride is a hormone disrupter. It mimics the action of many
water-soluble hormones by interacting with G proteins, which transmit
hormonal messages across cell membranes.[13] Additionally, fluoride
accumulates in the pineal gland and may reduce melatonin
production.[14]
6) Fluoride (50-75 mg per day) given to osteoporosis patients to
strengthen bones has actually increased their rate of hip
fractures.[15,16] Of 18 studies conducted since 1990, 10 have found
an association between water fluoridation and hip fractures in the
elderly.[17] According to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease
Registry (ATSDR): "If this effect is confirmed, it would mean that
hip fracture in the elderly replaces dental fluorosis in children
as the most sensitive endpoint of fluoride exposure."[18] Hip
fracture is not a minor problem: in the U.S. up to 50,000 people
die each year of osteoporosis-related hip fractures.[19]
7) Some evidence suggests that fluoride causes bone cancer in male
rats and perhaps in young men.[20, 21]
8) A recent report by the Greater Boston Physicians for Social
Responsibility reviews studies showing that fluoride interferes
with brain function in young animals and in children, reducing
IQ.[22]
Most European countries have rejected fluoridation. Recognizing
that there are simple and effective alternatives, they have applied
the precautionary principle. Their children's teeth have not suffered
as a consequence. Parents willing to expose their children to
fluoride can simply purchase fluoridated toothpaste (which contains
1000 to 1500 ppm fluoride -- read the warning label on the
package).[23]
The American policy of giving fluoride to children by medicating
whole communities with a potent drug that may harm some people seems
a dubious practice at best. At worst it violates the primary principle
of medical ethics: First do no harm. Furthermore, it violates the
ethical principle of informed consent.
In May 2000 the Fluoride Action Network (FAN) was formed by a
coalition of activists and scientists from 12 countries (see:
http://www.fluoridealert.org). FAN's goal is to end fluoridation
and minimize exposure to fluoride. FAN's founding members include
the late David Brower; Teddy Goldsmith; Michael Colby; Gar Smith;
Terri Swearingen; the union representing professional employees at
EPA headquarters; and Dr. Hardy Limeback, Canada's leading dental
authority on fluoridation who in 1999 apologized for having promoted
fluoridation for 15 years.
We urge our colleagues working on public health and environmental
issues to become involved and take a second look at fluoridation.
=====
* Paul Connett is professor of chemistry at St. Lawrence University
in Canton N.Y.; Ellen Connett is editor of WASTE NOT , 82 Judson,
Canton N.Y. 13617; Michael Connett is FAN's webmaster
<http://www.fluoridealert.org>
[1] J. William Hirzy, "Why the union representing U.S. EPA's
professionals in Washington D.C. opposes fluoridation," WASTE NOT
#448 ( May 1, 1999), pgs. 1-4. And see
http://www.fluoridation.com/epa2.htm.
[2] Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for
Prevention Services, Division of Oral Health, "Water Supply Statistics"
(Atlanta, Georgia: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,
1993). Available at http://www.cdc.gov/nohss/FSSupplyStats.htm.
[3] Bette Hileman, "Fluoridation of water. Questions about health
risks and benefits remain after more than 40 years," CHEMICAL &
ENGINEERING NEWS Vol. 66 (August 1, 1988), pgs. 26-42. Available
at http://www.fluoridealert.org/hileman.htm.
[4] J.A. Brunelle and J.P. Carlos, "Recent Trends in Dental Caries
in U.S. Children and the Effect of Water Fluoridation," JOURNAL OF
DENTAL RESEARCH Vol. 69, Special Issue (February 1990), pgs. 723-727
and discussion pgs. 820-823.
[5] Centers for Disease Control, "Achievements in Public Health,
1900-1999: Fluoridation of Drinking Water to Prevent Dental Caries,"
MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY WEEKLY REPORT Vol. 48, No. 41 (October 22,
1999), pgs. 933-940.
[6] C.J. Spak and others, "Fluoride in Human Milk," ACTA PAEDIATRICA
SCANDINAVICA Vol. 72, No. 5 (September 1983), pgs. 699-701.
[7] Keith E. Heller and others, "Dental Caries and Dental Fluorosis
at Varying Water Fluoride Concentrations," JOURNAL OF PUBLIC HEALTH
DENTISTRY Vol. 57, No. 3 (Summer 1997), pgs. 136-143.
[8] Julie A. Varner and others, "Chronic administration of
aluminum-fluoride and sodium-fluoride to rats in drinking water:
alterations in neuronal and cerebrovascular integrity," BRAIN
RESEARCH Vol. 784, No. 1-2 (February 1998), pgs. 284-298.
[9] S.S. Jolly and others, "Human Fluoride Intoxication in Punjab,"
Fluoride Vol, 4, No. 2 (1971), pgs. 64-79.
[10] Ad Hoc Subcommitttee on Fluoride of the Committee to Coordinate
Environmental Health and Related Programs, Public Health Service,
Department of Health and Human Services. REVIEW OF FLUORIDE: BENEFITS
AND RISKS, REPORT OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON FLUORIDE OF THE COMMITTEE
TO COORDINATE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND RELATED PROGRAMS (February
1991), pg. 17.
[11] Pierre-M. Galletti and Gustave Joyet, "Effect of fluorine on
thyroidal iodine metabolism in hyperthyroidism," JOURNAL OF CLINICAL
ENDOCRINOLOGY Vol. 18 (October 1958), pgs. 1102-1110.
[12] Beth Ann Ditkoff and Paul Lo Gerfo, THE THYROID GUIDE [ISBN
0060952601] (New York: Harper, 2000), cover notes.
[13] Anna Strunecka and J. Patocka, "Pharmacological and toxicological
effects of aluminofluoride complexes." FLUORIDE Vol. 32, No. 4
(November 1999), pgs. 230-242.
[14] Jennifer Anne Luke, THE EFFECT OF FLUORIDE ON THE PHYSIOLOGY
OF THE PINEAL GLAND , Ph.D Thesis, University of Surrey, United
Kingdom (1997). See also Jennifer Luke, "Fluoride Deposition in the
Aged Human Pineal Gland," CARIES RESEARCH Vol. 35 (2001), pgs.
125-128.
[15] L.R. Hedlund and J.C. Gallagher, "Increased incidence of hip
fracture in osteoporotic women treated with sodium fluoride," JOURNAL
OF BONE MINERAL RESEARCH Vol. 4, No. 2 (April 1989), pgs. 223-225.
[16] B.L. Riggs and others, "Effect of fluoride treatment on the
fracture rates in postmenopausal women with osteoporosis," NEW
ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE Vol. 322, No. 12 (March 22 1990), pgs.
802-809.
[17] Paul Connett and Michael Connett, "The Emperor Has No Clothes:
A Critique of the CDC's Promotion of Fluoridation," WASTE NOT #468
(October 2000), pgs. 27-28. Available at
http://www.fluoridealert.org/cdc.htm.
[18] Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, TOXICOLOGICAL
PROFILE FOR FLUORIDES, HYDROGEN FLUORIDE, AND FLUORINE (F)
[ATSDR/TP-91/17]. (Atlanta, Ga.: U.S. Department of Health and Human
Services, April 1993), pg. 57.
[19] K. Phipps, "Fluoride and bone health," JOURNAL OF PUBLIC HEALTH
DENTISTRY Vol. 55, No. 1 (Winter 1995), pgs. 53-56.
[20] National Toxicology Program, TOXICOLOGY AND CARCINOGENESIS
(December 1990). This NTP study is summarized in reference 10, pgs.
71-73.
[21] Perry D. Cohn, A BRIEF REPORT ON THE ASSOCIATION OF DRINKING
WATER FLUORIDATION AND THE INCIDENCE OF OSTEOSARCOMA AMONG YOUNG
MALES. (Trenton, N.J.: New Jersey Department of Health, November
8, 1992).
[22] Ted Schettler and others, IN HARM'S WAY: TOXIC THREATS TO CHILD
DEVELOPMENT (Cambridge, Mass.: Greater Boston Physicians for Social
Responsibility [GBPSR] , May 2000). Available at
http://www.igc.org/psr/
or from GBPSR in Cambridge, Mass.; telephone (617) 497-7440.
[23] Paul Connett and Ellen Connett, "The Fluoridation of Drinking
Water: a house of cards waiting to fall. Part 1: The Science," WASTE
NOT #373 (November 1996). See Table 2 pgs. 6-7.
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From: David West <davidgordonwest@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: March 20, 2006 2:16:51 AM EST
To: BenStein99@aol.com
Subject: humble thoughts about the Oscars
Dear Mr Stein,
I received a copy of your article below through my e-mail.
I suppose I found it vaguely humourous.
I have no idea who you are, so I looked at your web site to find out.
With no further apologies, I will refer to your article below.
When you imply that the�'people we are fighting weren't interested in
any peace for us but the peace of the grave'� I assume you are not
referring to the 100,000 plus people who have been slaughtered in this
bloody war, over 70 percent of whom are women and children. You cannot
be referring to them because they are dead, and totally unable to
fight, or even have any feelings on the subject.
So therefore you must be referring to those poor people who are still
alive, to suffer the torment of being bombed in their own homes,
arrested because they are ugly, and tortured because they don't know
why they were arrested.
Then you go on to say 'the war to save freedom from Islamic
terrorists'. I would have thought that as a person who regularly
speaks to the American public, you might have done a little research
before publishing such statements. It is quite obvious that you believe
that the press and television in America present the truth, the whole
truth, and nothing but the truth. How naive you are!
You then go on to say 'Hollywood does not think of itself as part of
America,'
So this implies that you DO think you are a part of America. I'm afraid
I have to agree with you. It appears that, on the most part, the
American public is totally uninformed of the truth, mainly because of
the 'personalities' who appear daily in front of them on the
television, who themselves have no idea of the truth.
I don't intend to set out the truth here for you - you must do some of
your own thinking and research - but I will give you a clue. These
Islamic terrorists to whom you refer are extremely clever people,
because nine of the nineteen so called Islamic terrorists who were
purportedly involved in 9/11, have raised themselves from the dead.
That's almost 50 percent. So I would be very careful about encouraging
American soldiers to kill Islamists, because they are likely to be
extremely angry about having to raise themselves from the dead, and if
half of the dead, that's fifty thousand or so, were to raise themselves
from the dead, and a small proportion of that 50,000 were to appear in
the audience of one of your shows, what would you do? Are you well
versed in chatting to ghosts?
We know that Hollywood 'lives in dreamland', but it appears that they
are not the only ones!
As far as offering 'occasion to mock or criticize George Bush' is
concerned, I wouldn't worry too much about that. There are very few
occasions when this facility is not on offer.
Later in this masterpiece you write 'The idea that it is brave to
stand up for gays in Hollywood, to stand up against Joe McCarthy in
Hollywood (fifty years after his death), to say that rich white people
are bad, that oil companies are evil -- this is nonsense. '
I read to the end looking for the punch line following this wonderful
build-up, but unfortunately was unable to find one. What a pity - I'm
convinced that you missed a wonderful opportunity, but never mind, it
was kind of you to mention a little truth somewhere.
I liked the part about 'a fabulously great country where we treat
gays, blacks, and everyone else equal.' It's true. Now almost everyone
is treated in the same way as a gay black.
So, having started to mention the truth, you resort again to humour,
by saying 'The courageous writer in Hollywood will be the one who says
the oil companies do their best in a very hostile world to bring us
energy cheaplyand efficiently and with a minimum of corruption.'
Yeah, it takes real courage to ignore the cover-ups of FREE energy
avaiable, real courage to ignore the deaths of innocent Iraqi women and
children so that rich Americans can continue to run their gas-guzzling
automobiles while spending far less on fuel that any other citizen of
the planet, and an unbelievable amount of courage to believe that all
of this is done without corruption.
And as far as 'The producer who really has guts will be the one who
says that Wall Street, despite its flaws, has done the best job of
democratizing wealth ever in the history of mankind.' goes, then again
I have to agree. Anyone who has the guts to say that in public must
have an army of bodyguards surrounding him, to protect himself from the
millions who don't have two cents to rub together. I'll bet that in
your naiveity you even believe that the Federal Reserve is run by the
government.
You then follow with this amazing statement: 'They would be heroes if
they said that Moslem extremists are the worst threat to human decency
since Hitler and Stalin. '
Here I have to disagree. The worst threat to human decency is
definitely provided by the people in the public eye who themselves are
so misinformed, mind controlled, and/or brain dead that they purvey
this kind of nonsense to the public year in and year out.
A later sentence requires a small modification, which is the
replacement of the word Hollywood with your own name, to give the
following: 'Ben Stein is above all about self: self-congratulation,�
self-promotion, and above all, self-protection. This is human and
basic, but let's not kid ourselves. '
And your closing statement says it all:� 'God help us that we have
sunk so low as to confuse foolish and petty boasting with the real
courage that keeps
this nation and the many fools in it alive and flourishing on national
TV.'
Thank you, and good night.
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Subject: Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_611.shtml
Can we say insurance fraud?
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Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
By Jerry Mazza
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Mar 21, 2006, 01:10
No, it�s not a job for Viagra, trust me. But some good fresh investors would help. Governor Pataki and Mayor Bloomberg have told Silverstein to get up the $2.3 billion Freedom Tower, at least make a start, by next month or �move out of the way.�
This means Silverstein, who holds the lease for the World Trade Center site, would have to turn over control of building the new tower and a second building to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the site�s owners. After all, it�s been more than four years and Larry hasn�t gotten it up. Que pasa?
On the other hand, he�s gotten up his new Tower 7, to replace the old one he had actually owned. But this T 7 is bigger and better than ever, 52 floors not 47. You know, sometimes you just have to be in the mood.
Larry actually ordered his original Tower 7 �pulled� seven hours after Towers 1and 2 came down. He claimed there was so much fire damage in this redundant, steel-framed 47-floor building that before it fell and caused any more pain, he would �pull it.� And so it was done.
The trouble is you don�t just �pull it.� It takes weeks to rig a building with charges and heavy explosives at all the vital structural points. Then, you can �pull it� and POW! It�ll come down in 10 seconds, just like the redundant steel-framed Towers 1 and 2, and at the speed of gravity, into a neat footprint of its free-fall.
Tower 7 also left molten steel and somewhat evaporated steel members, although the fire was nothing compared to Towers 1 and 2. Maybe it wasn�t fire that melted them, but high power explosives. Ya never know, as we say in New York.
Also Tower 7 happened to house the Secret Service�s largest field office, over 200 employees and as Michael Ruppert suggests some of the devices that guided the liners into the buildings. 7 also housed the IRS, the SEC (with thousands of Wall Street scam case files in it), the FBI, CIA, and Rudy Giuliani�s Control Center. They were evacuated for the most part.
Tower 7 did take with it oft-stymied Osama hunter John O�Neill, the ex-Terror Head who quit the FBI after 30 yeas in disgust. He was the same John O�Neil just appointed head of WTC security. Aren�t these amazing coincidences, one right after another, like cutter charges, boom boom boom boom boom, as the firemen described occurring in Towers 1 and 2, along with two huge explosions each, one from the basement, and one from the top of each tower?
But I digress. Lucky Larry and the Silverstein Group leased the WTC from the PA for $3.2 billion for 99 years, a sweetheart deal if ever. They also had the prescience to ramp the insurance to $3.55 billion just weeks before 9/11, including coverage for terror attacks. After the catastrophe, Silverstein�s lawyers had the bright idea to ask for $7.1 billion, saying the two hits (within minutes of each other) constituted two separate acts. What beauties.
In fact, Larry was joyful at the thought of rebuilding under these terms. That was his thing. And he would get the WTC up bigger and better than ever, with a $9 billion tab.
Trouble In Silverstein City
Where things start to come apart for Larry-boy is with those pesky insurance companies, who barely like to pay what they owe you, let alone what you�re padding. After two years of Larry�s Silverstein group haggling in court with multiple insurers, spending a million bucks on lawyers, the judge turned and said, sorry fellas, it was one hit, you get 3.5 billion, period. Now, get outa here!
Some $700 million got cut off the top for one of Larry�s lenders, GMAC, the retail leaseholder. Then there�s a $125 million rent tab coming up from the Port of Authority in July. And money was spent on cleaning things up plus infrastructure costs. Net net, he�s left with some $2.9 billion, maybe even less, who knows for sure. I mean, poor baby, he�s not hurting like all those people who lost their jobs or worse lost their lives, but he�s gotta get it up, $2.3 billion and the Freedom Tower. And people are saying he doesn�t have the jack.
Also, the Port of Authority would like a chunk of the insurance money. So Larry is scrambling to put things together. He sounds like an angst-ridden Woody Allen in a double-breasted suit, with a slicked-back parted haircut. Yet inside, the guy�s pure steel, like one of the Towers.
When he finally had a deal with the Port of Authority, he threw a set of new demands on the table that scuttled the bargaining. Larry assumed he had Pataki �over a barrel� because he holds the lease. But George, like his namesake, is an ambitious man with his eye on the White House. He doesn�t want to leave a mess behind in New York. Negotiations stopped. It�s get it up or get out.
The Dark Past of the World Trade Center
An equally dark history shadows the old World Trade Center. In a brilliant article �The Process of Creating a Ruin,� from Business Week, there�s an excerpt from Eric Darton�s book Divided We Stand. The excerpt is called, �What the Twin Trade Towers Stood For.� In it, Darton describes the difficulties of the World Trade Center after the first bombing in 1993, a story in and of itself. In fact, I�ve always been amazed that the immense blast happened at 12:18 local time in the Secret Service's section of the car park under New York's tallest. That aside, Darton says . . .
�From an economic standpoint, the trade center -- subsidized since its inception -- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. And in the thirty years since it was built, the social forces of which it remains so highly visible an artifact have definitively realigned.�
Darton goes on to say that the WTC in 1993 at 20 years old had really just begun cranking out enough income to meet the ongoing losses the Port of Authority incurred to run the PATH commuter line. WTC office space had topped out price-wise. A new generation of cyber-smart buildings, with bigger built-in electrical capacity, had quietly surpassed it.
Also, with the bombing came a $700 million hit for repairs. But the Port Authority, unlike a commercial landlord, did have a $2.6 billion annual budget and the right to generate cash through bonds, tolls, fares, and airport tariffs. The PA could afford to rebuild the WTC and do needed renovations. But then there�s another assault on the institution�s integrity. Darton points out that, in the 1990s, �Privatization emerged as one of the key political strategies of the early Pataki, Whitman, and Giuliani administrations as they faced widening budget gaps, shrinking federal assistance, and reduced local tax revenues.
�Imitating their corporate counterparts, they embraced the belief that governmental functions should be reduced to a series of inexorable bottom lines. This new standard became the basis for a sweeping reevaluation of public agencies. They would be judged not by their objective performance level or their contribution to the public good but according to whether their disassembled parts might profitably be sold, merged, or eliminated.
�Discussing the disposition of the Port Authority's bus terminal, Charles Gargano, Governor Pataki's appointee to the PA's vice chairmanship and the head of New York State's economic development agency, put the issue succinctly when he asked, 'Why not let private industry in to develop what is clearly an extremely valuable property?'"
So it�s the wolf howl of the free marketer, privatization. Where have I heard that before? Don�t analyze, criticize, amortize, socialize -- just privatize! It�s like the privatization model Darton describes as designed for the District of Columbia, referring to residents and visitors as �customers,� and government duties split into �wholesale� and �retail� categories.
It�s like that senior editor writing in the 1998 Wall Street Journal who urged the Republican Party to �view itself very much like, let�s say, a corporation, A Daimler-Benz, A Chrysler . . . to change its corporate culture [and] go through a wrenching transformation, because the cars are coming back from the lot unsold.�
In short, the World Trade Center was now a piece of meat on the free market selling block.
And the Port of Authority stopped being a public institution designed to meet the New York region�s socio-economic needs. The PA turns into an amalgam of assets to be cut up according to market�s appetites. �Capturing� the maximum value of each piece is based simply on �dismembering the whole.� Badaboom! I can hear them now.
WTC Needed Repair in 2001
Larry Silverstein and friends knew all this. Especially that the Towers needed some $200 million in renovations and improvements, mostly related to removal and/or replacement of building materials declared health hazards since the Towers were built. WTC was labeled an �asbestos bombshell.�
In fact, the Port Authority thought of WTC as a dinosaur, trying several times to get permits to demolish the buildings for liability reasons. The PA was turned down. The asbestos problem was no secret. The sole reason the complex was still up till 9/11 was the cost of taking the Twin Towers down floor by floor. Especially since the PA was prohibited by law from demolishing the buildings. Got that? Demolishing prohibited by law but doable by an act of god or godlessness.
Other developers had gone broke by the mandated renovations. Two hundred million dollars were an entire year�s revenue from the Trade Towers. So the 9/11 collapse of the Twin Towers was the final solution, so to speak.
The November 22, 2003, New York Times reported that under a pending agreement a developer and his investors will get back most of the down payment that they made to lease the World Trade Center just six weeks before a terrorist attack destroyed the twin towers. Developer Larry Silverstein and investors Lloyd Goldman and Joseph Cayre are nearing a deal that would give them about $98 million of their original investment of $125 million. That's a helluva refund.
September 11 reduced renovation to Ground Zero. So now Silverstein could rebuild funded by insurance coverage that miraculously covered acts of terrorism. Filing two claims was the capper.
But, as the CIA would say, there was a little blowback. Larry only got back the one-hit payola, with a lot of expenses, though still considerable profit, but obviously leaving a shortfall for the $2.3 billion tower, not to mention the $9 billion complex. But hey, that�s privatization for you, the old unseen hand scraping the skin off somebody�s back for a buck, in this case Larry�s. It�s no wonder he can�t get it up. He�s got a lot on his mind, not to mention 2,700 lost souls.
Jerry Mazza is a freelance writing and native New Yorker. Reach him at gvmaz@verizon.net.
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Please correct me if I am wrong here, but I think that this guy is of on just a couple of things here. 1 is Silverstein DID get the 7 billion dollars, 2 is that U.S. and New York TAXPAYERS paid the clean up bill for ground zero AND the pentagon.
Again, PLEASE correct me if I am incorrect in this assertion.
Kevin
Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_611.shtml
Can we say insurance fraud?
Commentary
Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
By Jerry Mazza
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Mar 21, 2006, 01:10
No, it�s not a job for Viagra, trust me. But some good fresh investors would help. Governor Pataki and Mayor Bloomberg have told Silverstein to get up the $2.3 billion Freedom Tower, at least make a start, by next month or �move out of the way.�
This means Silverstein, who holds the lease for the World Trade Center site, would have to turn over control of building the new tower and a second building to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the site�s owners. After all, it�s been more than four years and Larry hasn�t gotten it up. Que pasa?
On the other hand, he�s gotten up his new Tower 7, to replace the old one he had actually owned. But this T 7 is bigger and better than ever, 52 floors not 47. You know, sometimes you just have to be in the mood.
Larry actually ordered his original Tower 7 �pulled� seven hours after Towers 1and 2 came down. He claimed there was so much fire damage in this redundant, steel-framed 47-floor building that before it fell and caused any more pain, he would �pull it.� And so it was done.
The trouble is you don�t just �pull it.� It takes weeks to rig a building with charges and heavy explosives at all the vital structural points. Then, you can �pull it� and POW! It�ll come down in 10 seconds, just like the redundant steel-framed Towers 1 and 2, and at the speed of gravity, into a neat footprint of its free-fall.
Tower 7 also left molten steel and somewhat evaporated steel members, although the fire was nothing compared to Towers 1 and 2. Maybe it wasn�t fire that melted them, but high power explosives. Ya never know, as we say in New York.
Also Tower 7 happened to house the Secret Service�s largest field office, over 200 employees and as Michael Ruppert suggests some of the devices that guided the liners into the buildings. 7 also housed the IRS, the SEC (with thousands of Wall Street scam case files in it), the FBI, CIA, and Rudy Giuliani�s Control Center. They were evacuated for the most part.
Tower 7 did take with it oft-stymied Osama hunter John O�Neill, the ex-Terror Head who quit the FBI after 30 yeas in disgust. He was the same John O�Neil just appointed head of WTC security. Aren�t these amazing coincidences, one right after another, like cutter charges, boom boom boom boom boom, as the firemen described occurring in Towers 1 and 2, along with two huge explosions each, one from the basement, and one from the top of each tower?
But I digress. Lucky Larry and the Silverstein Group leased the WTC from the PA for $3.2 billion for 99 years, a sweetheart deal if ever. They also had the prescience to ramp the insurance to $3.55 billion just weeks before 9/11, including coverage for terror attacks. After the catastrophe, Silverstein�s lawyers had the bright idea to ask for $7.1 billion, saying the two hits (within minutes of each other) constituted two separate acts. What beauties.
In fact, Larry was joyful at the thought of rebuilding under these terms. That was his thing. And he would get the WTC up bigger and better than ever, with a $9 billion tab.
Trouble In Silverstein City
Where things start to come apart for Larry-boy is with those pesky insurance companies, who barely like to pay what they owe you, let alone what you�re padding. After two years of Larry�s Silverstein group haggling in court with multiple insurers, spending a million bucks on lawyers, the judge turned and said, sorry fellas, it was one hit, you get 3.5 billion, period. Now, get outa here!
Some $700 million got cut off the top for one of Larry�s lenders, GMAC, the retail leaseholder. Then there�s a $125 million rent tab coming up from the Port of Authority in July. And money was spent on cleaning things up plus infrastructure costs. Net net, he�s left with some $2.9 billion, maybe even less, who knows for sure. I mean, poor baby, he�s not hurting like all those people who lost their jobs or worse lost their lives, but he�s gotta get it up, $2.3 billion and the Freedom Tower. And people are saying he doesn�t have the jack.
Also, the Port of Authority would like a chunk of the insurance money. So Larry is scrambling to put things together. He sounds like an angst-ridden Woody Allen in a double-breasted suit, with a slicked-back parted haircut. Yet inside, the guy�s pure steel, like one of the Towers.
When he finally had a deal with the Port of Authority, he threw a set of new demands on the table that scuttled the bargaining. Larry assumed he had Pataki �over a barrel� because he holds the lease. But George, like his namesake, is an ambitious man with his eye on the White House. He doesn�t want to leave a mess behind in New York. Negotiations stopped. It�s get it up or get out.
The Dark Past of the World Trade Center
An equally dark history shadows the old World Trade Center. In a brilliant article �The Process of Creating a Ruin,� from Business Week, there�s an excerpt from Eric Darton�s book Divided We Stand. The excerpt is called, �What the Twin Trade Towers Stood For.� In it, Darton describes the difficulties of the World Trade Center after the first bombing in 1993, a story in and of itself. In fact, I�ve always been amazed that the immense blast happened at 12:18 local time in the Secret Service's section of the car park under New York's tallest. That aside, Darton says . . .
�From an economic standpoint, the trade center -- subsidized since its inception -- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. And in the thirty years since it was built, the social forces of which it remains so highly visible an artifact have definitively realigned.�
Darton goes on to say that the WTC in 1993 at 20 years old had really just begun cranking out enough income to meet the ongoing losses the Port of Authority incurred to run the PATH commuter line. WTC office space had topped out price-wise. A new generation of cyber-smart buildings, with bigger built-in electrical capacity, had quietly surpassed it.
Also, with the bombing came a $700 million hit for repairs. But the Port Authority, unlike a commercial landlord, did have a $2.6 billion annual budget and the right to generate cash through bonds, tolls, fares, and airport tariffs. The PA could afford to rebuild the WTC and do needed renovations. But then there�s another assault on the institution�s integrity. Darton points out that, in the 1990s, �Privatization emerged as one of the key political strategies of the early Pataki, Whitman, and Giuliani administrations as they faced widening budget gaps, shrinking federal assistance, and reduced local tax revenues.
�Imitating their corporate counterparts, they embraced the belief that governmental functions should be reduced to a series of inexorable bottom lines. This new standard became the basis for a sweeping reevaluation of public agencies. They would be judged not by their objective performance level or their contribution to the public good but according to whether their disassembled parts might profitably be sold, merged, or eliminated.
�Discussing the disposition of the Port Authority's bus terminal, Charles Gargano, Governor Pataki's appointee to the PA's vice chairmanship and the head of New York State's economic development agency, put the issue succinctly when he asked, 'Why not let private industry in to develop what is clearly an extremely valuable property?'"
So it�s the wolf howl of the free marketer, privatization. Where have I heard that before? Don�t analyze, criticize, amortize, socialize -- just privatize! It�s like the privatization model Darton describes as designed for the District of Columbia, referring to residents and visitors as �customers,� and government duties split into �wholesale� and �retail� categories.
It�s like that senior editor writing in the 1998 Wall Street Journal who urged the Republican Party to �view itself very much like, let�s say, a corporation, A Daimler-Benz, A Chrysler . . . to change its corporate culture [and] go through a wrenching transformation, because the cars are coming back from the lot unsold.�
In short, the World Trade Center was now a piece of meat on the free market selling block.
And the Port of Authority stopped being a public institution designed to meet the New York region�s socio-economic needs. The PA turns into an amalgam of assets to be cut up according to market�s appetites. �Capturing� the maximum value of each piece is based simply on �dismembering the whole.� Badaboom! I can hear them now.
WTC Needed Repair in 2001
Larry Silverstein and friends knew all this. Especially that the Towers needed some $200 million in renovations and improvements, mostly related to removal and/or replacement of building materials declared health hazards since the Towers were built. WTC was labeled an �asbestos bombshell.�
In fact, the Port Authority thought of WTC as a dinosaur, trying several times to get permits to demolish the buildings for liability reasons. The PA was turned down. The asbestos problem was no secret. The sole reason the complex was still up till 9/11 was the cost of taking the Twin Towers down floor by floor. Especially since the PA was prohibited by law from demolishing the buildings. Got that? Demolishing prohibited by law but doable by an act of god or godlessness.
Other developers had gone broke by the mandated renovations. Two hundred million dollars were an entire year�s revenue from the Trade Towers. So the 9/11 collapse of the Twin Towers was the final solution, so to speak.
The November 22, 2003, New York Times reported that under a pending agreement a developer and his investors will get back most of the down payment that they made to lease the World Trade Center just six weeks before a terrorist attack destroyed the twin towers. Developer Larry Silverstein and investors Lloyd Goldman and Joseph Cayre are nearing a deal that would give them about $98 million of their original investment of $125 million. That's a helluva refund.
September 11 reduced renovation to Ground Zero. So now Silverstein could rebuild funded by insurance coverage that miraculously covered acts of terrorism. Filing two claims was the capper.
But, as the CIA would say, there was a little blowback. Larry only got back the one-hit payola, with a lot of expenses, though still considerable profit, but obviously leaving a shortfall for the $2.3 billion tower, not to mention the $9 billion complex. But hey, that�s privatization for you, the old unseen hand scraping the skin off somebody�s back for a buck, in this case Larry�s. It�s no wonder he can�t get it up. He�s got a lot on his mind, not to mention 2,700 lost souls.
Jerry Mazza is a freelance writing and native New Yorker. Reach him at gvmaz@verizon.net.
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:07:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: No Plane Theory
I love ya Greg! GOD BLESS YOU!
Kevin
greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sorry I have to disagree with my brother Kevin. He cannot make a statement with absolute assurance when there is evidence to the contrary. There is enough evidence to say the alleged commercial aircraft i.e. 175 and 11 did not hit the WTC, as for what hit the towers is ongoing and what researcher Ewing2001 calls "backend research." Brett if you think you can make the case that 'no planes' is 'dis-info' you are invited to test your debating skills against the researchers at Yahoo Group "planehuggers" Good Luck! Please see articles of recent note:
http://www.reopen911.org/bluescreen.htm
http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=we_have_holes
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/911chron_timeline_nico.html
Greg Nixon
Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:
There is absolutely NO DOUBT that planes hit the wtc. We do NOT dissemenate hologram hogwash on this group. it is questionable what hit the pentagon but I personally dont dwell on that aspect too much. What IS known is that the man that the fbi said flew te plane into the pentagon could NOT have done so at all. He could not even drive a car. His name was Hani Hanjour. They named another man before him whose name escapes me at the moment who came forward and said HEY! I am ALIVE! You have named the wrong man! So they saw fit to pull Mr. Hanjour's name out of the very same hat as the other fellah.
Kevin
P.S. Welcome to the group. And please check out www.911research.com www.wtc7.net www.infowars.com www.globalresearch.ca and www.onlinejournal.com If you happen to live in San Francisco, Watch my weekly tv show on cable channel 29 every sat. night at midnite.
Ben Kramer <benkramer1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greetings Everyone,
I have been a member here for less than two weeks, and I see that
the "NO PLANE" theory has been often discussed. Its something that I
heard and thought that it might be possible in the past but not now
with one bit of evidence.
If one carefully watches the video of the second plane that
crashed into the WTC, you can see that one of the engines goes right
thru the building and out on the other side of the building towards
the street.
I have seen pics of this engine on the Jeff Rense website where
it had landed out on the street a couple of blocks from the WTC. An
airplane mechanic has examined the picture and stated that he knows
for sure that it didnt come from a commercial airliner.
Based on this information I believe that its impossible that
there was no plane that hit the WTC and I thinks its very possible
that this theory is merely misinformation by certain entities that
would like to derail the truth movement.
Maybe Ben Chertoff planted this story outside of PM magazine ?
Michael Chertoff's cousin. Anyway I welcome any and all comments on
this issue.
Brett K
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:15:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
the 7 billion yup, i remember seeing the headlines.
it sounds reasonable to say that the taxpayers footed the bill of clean up.
Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:
Please correct me if I am wrong here, but I think that this guy is of on just a couple of things here. 1 is Silverstein DID get the 7 billion dollars, 2 is that U.S. and New York TAXPAYERS paid the clean up bill for ground zero AND the pentagon.
Again, PLEASE correct me if I am incorrect in this assertion.
Kevin
Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_611.shtml
Can we say insurance fraud?
Commentary
Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
By Jerry Mazza
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Mar 21, 2006, 01:10
No, it�s not a job for Viagra, trust me. But some good fresh investors would help. Governor Pataki and Mayor Bloomberg have told Silverstein to get up the $2.3 billion Freedom Tower, at least make a start, by next month or �move out of the way.�
This means Silverstein, who holds the lease for the World Trade Center site, would have to turn over control of building the new tower and a second building to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the site�s owners. After all, it�s been more than four years and Larry hasn�t gotten it up. Que pasa?
On the other hand, he�s gotten up his new Tower 7, to replace the old one he had actually owned. But this T 7 is bigger and better than ever, 52 floors not 47. You know, sometimes you just have to be in the mood.
Larry actually ordered his original Tower 7 �pulled� seven hours after Towers 1and 2 came down. He claimed there was so much fire damage in this redundant, steel-framed 47-floor building that before it fell and caused any more pain, he would �pull it.� And so it was done.
The trouble is you don�t just �pull it.� It takes weeks to rig a building with charges and heavy explosives at all the vital structural points. Then, you can �pull it� and POW! It�ll come down in 10 seconds, just like the redundant steel-framed Towers 1 and 2, and at the speed of gravity, into a neat footprint of its free-fall.
Tower 7 also left molten steel and somewhat evaporated steel members, although the fire was nothing compared to Towers 1 and 2. Maybe it wasn�t fire that melted them, but high power explosives. Ya never know, as we say in New York.
Also Tower 7 happened to house the Secret Service�s largest field office, over 200 employees and as Michael Ruppert suggests some of the devices that guided the liners into the buildings. 7 also housed the IRS, the SEC (with thousands of Wall Street scam case files in it), the FBI, CIA, and Rudy Giuliani�s Control Center. They were evacuated for the most part.
Tower 7 did take with it oft-stymied Osama hunter John O�Neill, the ex-Terror Head who quit the FBI after 30 yeas in disgust. He was the same John O�Neil just appointed head of WTC security. Aren�t these amazing coincidences, one right after another, like cutter charges, boom boom boom boom boom, as the firemen described occurring in Towers 1 and 2, along with two huge explosions each, one from the basement, and one from the top of each tower?
But I digress. Lucky Larry and the Silverstein Group leased the WTC from the PA for $3.2 billion for 99 years, a sweetheart deal if ever. They also had the prescience to ramp the insurance to $3.55 billion just weeks before 9/11, including coverage for terror attacks. After the catastrophe, Silverstein�s lawyers had the bright idea to ask for $7.1 billion, saying the two hits (within minutes of each other) constituted two separate acts. What beauties.
In fact, Larry was joyful at the thought of rebuilding under these terms. That was his thing. And he would get the WTC up bigger and better than ever, with a $9 billion tab.
Trouble In Silverstein City
Where things start to come apart for Larry-boy is with those pesky insurance companies, who barely like to pay what they owe you, let alone what you�re padding. After two years of Larry�s Silverstein group haggling in court with multiple insurers, spending a million bucks on lawyers, the judge turned and said, sorry fellas, it was one hit, you get 3.5 billion, period. Now, get outa here!
Some $700 million got cut off the top for one of Larry�s lenders, GMAC, the retail leaseholder. Then there�s a $125 million rent tab coming up from the Port of Authority in July. And money was spent on cleaning things up plus infrastructure costs. Net net, he�s left with some $2.9 billion, maybe even less, who knows for sure. I mean, poor baby, he�s not hurting like all those people who lost their jobs or worse lost their lives, but he�s gotta get it up, $2.3 billion and the Freedom Tower. And people are saying he doesn�t have the jack.
Also, the Port of Authority would like a chunk of the insurance money. So Larry is scrambling to put things together. He sounds like an angst-ridden Woody Allen in a double-breasted suit, with a slicked-back parted haircut. Yet inside, the guy�s pure steel, like one of the Towers.
When he finally had a deal with the Port of Authority, he threw a set of new demands on the table that scuttled the bargaining. Larry assumed he had Pataki �over a barrel� because he holds the lease. But George, like his namesake, is an ambitious man with his eye on the White House. He doesn�t want to leave a mess behind in New York. Negotiations stopped. It�s get it up or get out.
The Dark Past of the World Trade Center
An equally dark history shadows the old World Trade Center. In a brilliant article �The Process of Creating a Ruin,� from Business Week, there�s an excerpt from Eric Darton�s book Divided We Stand. The excerpt is called, �What the Twin Trade Towers Stood For.� In it, Darton describes the difficulties of the World Trade Center after the first bombing in 1993, a story in and of itself. In fact, I�ve always been amazed that the immense blast happened at 12:18 local time in the Secret Service's section of the car park under New York's tallest. That aside, Darton says . . .
�From an economic standpoint, the trade center -- subsidized since its inception -- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. And in the thirty years since it was built, the social forces of which it remains so highly visible an artifact have definitively realigned.�
Darton goes on to say that the WTC in 1993 at 20 years old had really just begun cranking out enough income to meet the ongoing losses the Port of Authority incurred to run the PATH commuter line. WTC office space had topped out price-wise. A new generation of cyber-smart buildings, with bigger built-in electrical capacity, had quietly surpassed it.
Also, with the bombing came a $700 million hit for repairs. But the Port Authority, unlike a commercial landlord, did have a $2.6 billion annual budget and the right to generate cash through bonds, tolls, fares, and airport tariffs. The PA could afford to rebuild the WTC and do needed renovations. But then there�s another assault on the institution�s integrity. Darton points out that, in the 1990s, �Privatization emerged as one of the key political strategies of the early Pataki, Whitman, and Giuliani administrations as they faced widening budget gaps, shrinking federal assistance, and reduced local tax revenues.
�Imitating their corporate counterparts, they embraced the belief that governmental functions should be reduced to a series of inexorable bottom lines. This new standard became the basis for a sweeping reevaluation of public agencies. They would be judged not by their objective performance level or their contribution to the public good but according to whether their disassembled parts might profitably be sold, merged, or eliminated.
�Discussing the disposition of the Port Authority's bus terminal, Charles Gargano, Governor Pataki's appointee to the PA's vice chairmanship and the head of New York State's economic development agency, put the issue succinctly when he asked, 'Why not let private industry in to develop what is clearly an extremely valuable property?'"
So it�s the wolf howl of the free marketer, privatization. Where have I heard that before? Don�t analyze, criticize, amortize, socialize -- just privatize! It�s like the privatization model Darton describes as designed for the District of Columbia, referring to residents and visitors as �customers,� and government duties split into �wholesale� and �retail� categories.
It�s like that senior editor writing in the 1998 Wall Street Journal who urged the Republican Party to �view itself very much like, let�s say, a corporation, A Daimler-Benz, A Chrysler . . . to change its corporate culture [and] go through a wrenching transformation, because the cars are coming back from the lot unsold.�
In short, the World Trade Center was now a piece of meat on the free market selling block.
And the Port of Authority stopped being a public institution designed to meet the New York region�s socio-economic needs. The PA turns into an amalgam of assets to be cut up according to market�s appetites. �Capturing� the maximum value of each piece is based simply on �dismembering the whole.� Badaboom! I can hear them now.
WTC Needed Repair in 2001
Larry Silverstein and friends knew all this. Especially that the Towers needed some $200 million in renovations and improvements, mostly related to removal and/or replacement of building materials declared health hazards since the Towers were built. WTC was labeled an �asbestos bombshell.�
In fact, the Port Authority thought of WTC as a dinosaur, trying several times to get permits to demolish the buildings for liability reasons. The PA was turned down. The asbestos problem was no secret. The sole reason the complex was still up till 9/11 was the cost of taking the Twin Towers down floor by floor. Especially since the PA was prohibited by law from demolishing the buildings. Got that? Demolishing prohibited by law but doable by an act of god or godlessness.
Other developers had gone broke by the mandated renovations. Two hundred million dollars were an entire year�s revenue from the Trade Towers. So the 9/11 collapse of the Twin Towers was the final solution, so to speak.
The November 22, 2003, New York Times reported that under a pending agreement a developer and his investors will get back most of the down payment that they made to lease the World Trade Center just six weeks before a terrorist attack destroyed the twin towers. Developer Larry Silverstein and investors Lloyd Goldman and Joseph Cayre are nearing a deal that would give them about $98 million of their original investment of $125 million. That's a helluva refund.
September 11 reduced renovation to Ground Zero. So now Silverstein could rebuild funded by insurance coverage that miraculously covered acts of terrorism. Filing two claims was the capper.
But, as the CIA would say, there was a little blowback. Larry only got back the one-hit payola, with a lot of expenses, though still considerable profit, but obviously leaving a shortfall for the $2.3 billion tower, not to mention the $9 billion complex. But hey, that�s privatization for you, the old unseen hand scraping the skin off somebody�s back for a buck, in this case Larry�s. It�s no wonder he can�t get it up. He�s got a lot on his mind, not to mention 2,700 lost souls.
Jerry Mazza is a freelance writing and native New Yorker. Reach him at gvmaz@verizon.net.
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this is most strange, personnally i think its a bad picture, but what would they be trying to project here.
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From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
Thanks Bro. Since i have you online. Do you know what happened to the gz flyers? The ones with the 14 I think questions?.
Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote: the 7 billion yup, i remember seeing the headlines.
it sounds reasonable to say that the taxpayers footed the bill of clean up.
Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:
Please correct me if I am wrong here, but I think that this guy is of on just a couple of things here. 1 is Silverstein DID get the 7 billion dollars, 2 is that U.S. and New York TAXPAYERS paid the clean up bill for ground zero AND the pentagon.
Again, PLEASE correct me if I am incorrect in this assertion.
Kevin
Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote:
Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/printer_611.shtml
Can we say insurance fraud?
Commentary
Why Larry Silverstein can�t get it up
By Jerry Mazza
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Mar 21, 2006, 01:10
No, it�s not a job for Viagra, trust me. But some good fresh investors would help. Governor Pataki and Mayor Bloomberg have told Silverstein to get up the $2.3 billion Freedom Tower, at least make a start, by next month or �move out of the way.�
This means Silverstein, who holds the lease for the World Trade Center site, would have to turn over control of building the new tower and a second building to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the site�s owners. After all, it�s been more than four years and Larry hasn�t gotten it up. Que pasa?
On the other hand, he�s gotten up his new Tower 7, to replace the old one he had actually owned. But this T 7 is bigger and better than ever, 52 floors not 47. You know, sometimes you just have to be in the mood.
Larry actually ordered his original Tower 7 �pulled� seven hours after Towers 1and 2 came down. He claimed there was so much fire damage in this redundant, steel-framed 47-floor building that before it fell and caused any more pain, he would �pull it.� And so it was done.
The trouble is you don�t just �pull it.� It takes weeks to rig a building with charges and heavy explosives at all the vital structural points. Then, you can �pull it� and POW! It�ll come down in 10 seconds, just like the redundant steel-framed Towers 1 and 2, and at the speed of gravity, into a neat footprint of its free-fall.
Tower 7 also left molten steel and somewhat evaporated steel members, although the fire was nothing compared to Towers 1 and 2. Maybe it wasn�t fire that melted them, but high power explosives. Ya never know, as we say in New York.
Also Tower 7 happened to house the Secret Service�s largest field office, over 200 employees and as Michael Ruppert suggests some of the devices that guided the liners into the buildings. 7 also housed the IRS, the SEC (with thousands of Wall Street scam case files in it), the FBI, CIA, and Rudy Giuliani�s Control Center. They were evacuated for the most part.
Tower 7 did take with it oft-stymied Osama hunter John O�Neill, the ex-Terror Head who quit the FBI after 30 yeas in disgust. He was the same John O�Neil just appointed head of WTC security. Aren�t these amazing coincidences, one right after another, like cutter charges, boom boom boom boom boom, as the firemen described occurring in Towers 1 and 2, along with two huge explosions each, one from the basement, and one from the top of each tower?
But I digress. Lucky Larry and the Silverstein Group leased the WTC from the PA for $3.2 billion for 99 years, a sweetheart deal if ever. They also had the prescience to ramp the insurance to $3.55 billion just weeks before 9/11, including coverage for terror attacks. After the catastrophe, Silverstein�s lawyers had the bright idea to ask for $7.1 billion, saying the two hits (within minutes of each other) constituted two separate acts. What beauties.
In fact, Larry was joyful at the thought of rebuilding under these terms. That was his thing. And he would get the WTC up bigger and better than ever, with a $9 billion tab.
Trouble In Silverstein City
Where things start to come apart for Larry-boy is with those pesky insurance companies, who barely like to pay what they owe you, let alone what you�re padding. After two years of Larry�s Silverstein group haggling in court with multiple insurers, spending a million bucks on lawyers, the judge turned and said, sorry fellas, it was one hit, you get 3.5 billion, period. Now, get outa here!
Some $700 million got cut off the top for one of Larry�s lenders, GMAC, the retail leaseholder. Then there�s a $125 million rent tab coming up from the Port of Authority in July. And money was spent on cleaning things up plus infrastructure costs. Net net, he�s left with some $2.9 billion, maybe even less, who knows for sure. I mean, poor baby, he�s not hurting like all those people who lost their jobs or worse lost their lives, but he�s gotta get it up, $2.3 billion and the Freedom Tower. And people are saying he doesn�t have the jack.
Also, the Port of Authority would like a chunk of the insurance money. So Larry is scrambling to put things together. He sounds like an angst-ridden Woody Allen in a double-breasted suit, with a slicked-back parted haircut. Yet inside, the guy�s pure steel, like one of the Towers.
When he finally had a deal with the Port of Authority, he threw a set of new demands on the table that scuttled the bargaining. Larry assumed he had Pataki �over a barrel� because he holds the lease. But George, like his namesake, is an ambitious man with his eye on the White House. He doesn�t want to leave a mess behind in New York. Negotiations stopped. It�s get it up or get out.
The Dark Past of the World Trade Center
An equally dark history shadows the old World Trade Center. In a brilliant article �The Process of Creating a Ruin,� from Business Week, there�s an excerpt from Eric Darton�s book Divided We Stand. The excerpt is called, �What the Twin Trade Towers Stood For.� In it, Darton describes the difficulties of the World Trade Center after the first bombing in 1993, a story in and of itself. In fact, I�ve always been amazed that the immense blast happened at 12:18 local time in the Secret Service's section of the car park under New York's tallest. That aside, Darton says . . .
�From an economic standpoint, the trade center -- subsidized since its inception -- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. And in the thirty years since it was built, the social forces of which it remains so highly visible an artifact have definitively realigned.�
Darton goes on to say that the WTC in 1993 at 20 years old had really just begun cranking out enough income to meet the ongoing losses the Port of Authority incurred to run the PATH commuter line. WTC office space had topped out price-wise. A new generation of cyber-smart buildings, with bigger built-in electrical capacity, had quietly surpassed it.
Also, with the bombing came a $700 million hit for repairs. But the Port Authority, unlike a commercial landlord, did have a $2.6 billion annual budget and the right to generate cash through bonds, tolls, fares, and airport tariffs. The PA could afford to rebuild the WTC and do needed renovations. But then there�s another assault on the institution�s integrity. Darton points out that, in the 1990s, �Privatization emerged as one of the key political strategies of the early Pataki, Whitman, and Giuliani administrations as they faced widening budget gaps, shrinking federal assistance, and reduced local tax revenues.
�Imitating their corporate counterparts, they embraced the belief that governmental functions should be reduced to a series of inexorable bottom lines. This new standard became the basis for a sweeping reevaluation of public agencies. They would be judged not by their objective performance level or their contribution to the public good but according to whether their disassembled parts might profitably be sold, merged, or eliminated.
�Discussing the disposition of the Port Authority's bus terminal, Charles Gargano, Governor Pataki's appointee to the PA's vice chairmanship and the head of New York State's economic development agency, put the issue succinctly when he asked, 'Why not let private industry in to develop what is clearly an extremely valuable property?'"
So it�s the wolf howl of the free marketer, privatization. Where have I heard that before? Don�t analyze, criticize, amortize, socialize -- just privatize! It�s like the privatization model Darton describes as designed for the District of Columbia, referring to residents and visitors as �customers,� and government duties split into �wholesale� and �retail� categories.
It�s like that senior editor writing in the 1998 Wall Street Journal who urged the Republican Party to �view itself very much like, let�s say, a corporation, A Daimler-Benz, A Chrysler . . . to change its corporate culture [and] go through a wrenching transformation, because the cars are coming back from the lot unsold.�
In short, the World Trade Center was now a piece of meat on the free market selling block.
And the Port of Authority stopped being a public institution designed to meet the New York region�s socio-economic needs. The PA turns into an amalgam of assets to be cut up according to market�s appetites. �Capturing� the maximum value of each piece is based simply on �dismembering the whole.� Badaboom! I can hear them now.
WTC Needed Repair in 2001
Larry Silverstein and friends knew all this. Especially that the Towers needed some $200 million in renovations and improvements, mostly related to removal and/or replacement of building materials declared health hazards since the Towers were built. WTC was labeled an �asbestos bombshell.�
In fact, the Port Authority thought of WTC as a dinosaur, trying several times to get permits to demolish the buildings for liability reasons. The PA was turned down. The asbestos problem was no secret. The sole reason the complex was still up till 9/11 was the cost of taking the Twin Towers down floor by floor. Especially since the PA was prohibited by law from demolishing the buildings. Got that? Demolishing prohibited by law but doable by an act of god or godlessness.
Other developers had gone broke by the mandated renovations. Two hundred million dollars were an entire year�s revenue from the Trade Towers. So the 9/11 collapse of the Twin Towers was the final solution, so to speak.
The November 22, 2003, New York Times reported that under a pending agreement a developer and his investors will get back most of the down payment that they made to lease the World Trade Center just six weeks before a terrorist attack destroyed the twin towers. Developer Larry Silverstein and investors Lloyd Goldman and Joseph Cayre are nearing a deal that would give them about $98 million of their original investment of $125 million. That's a helluva refund.
September 11 reduced renovation to Ground Zero. So now Silverstein could rebuild funded by insurance coverage that miraculously covered acts of terrorism. Filing two claims was the capper.
But, as the CIA would say, there was a little blowback. Larry only got back the one-hit payola, with a lot of expenses, though still considerable profit, but obviously leaving a shortfall for the $2.3 billion tower, not to mention the $9 billion complex. But hey, that�s privatization for you, the old unseen hand scraping the skin off somebody�s back for a buck, in this case Larry�s. It�s no wonder he can�t get it up. He�s got a lot on his mind, not to mention 2,700 lost souls.
Jerry Mazza is a freelance writing and native New Yorker. Reach him at gvmaz@verizon.net.
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:20:31 EST
From: Moondancermom@aol.com
Subject: Huge Reaction To Sheen 9/11 Story
_http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/210306hugereaction.htm_
(http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/210306hugereaction.htm)
Huge Reaction To Sheen 9/11 Story
Linked on Drudge, later removed
_Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | March 21 2006_
(http://prisonplanet.com/index.html)
Yesterday's _Charlie Sheen story_
(http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/200306charliesheen.htm) , in which the actor went public with his grave
suspicions about the official story of 9/11, received widespread interest
across the Internet and was even linked on the Drudge Report for a time, a news
website that gets more traffic than the New York Times.
Our observations will now center around the question of if any mainstream
outlets will pick up the story or seek to interview Mr. Sheen regarding his
comments. The story is obviously big enough to be of interest to a wide
readership but its context may cause establishment controlled media to shy away in
journalistic cowardice.
Leading alternative website _Rense.com_ (http://rense.com/) graciously
carried the story as did many others but who will be the first aside from Drudge
to give the issue mainstream spotlight?
The story appeared on Drudge shortly after 6pm CST and our servers began
receiving hits from millions of readers. A link from Drudge regularly overloads
even medium sized mainstream websites and they go offline for hours. Despite
a little slowdown, we managed to ride the wave fairly comfortably until
Drudge mysteriously killed the link after 10pm CST.
We had even replaced our usual format page with a bare bones
printer-friendly style version to ensure maximum speed and delivery of the page, so it is
unlikely Drudge (pictured below) removed the link because of bottlenecked
traffic. We speculated that another webmaster had posted the link and Drudge
personally removed it upon seeing it.
Whatever the reason for the removal, the story still received huge traction
and we expect it to again garner interest across the Internet today.
In many ways a Hollywood celebrity stepping forward and making these
comments receives more attention than a former government official or physics
professor because the information is wrapped in a package that is instantly
recognizable to a wide audience.
The danger is that some are dangerously ill-informed, such as Madonna, who
_dismissed 9/11 as "ambiguous"_
(http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/221105celebritybandwagon.htm) yet focused all the attention on Hurricane
Katrina and kept the argument firmly within a left-right paradigm prison.
Charlie Sheen on the other hand took the time to educate himself thoroughly
on the real issues of 9/11 before going public with his doubts about the
official story.
There are several very high profile actors and film producers who are well
aware of the entire New World Order agenda and have directed their artistic
talents into exposing that agenda through the guidance of popular culture.
This is a real movement and it is growing, unlike the Madonna's and their
ilk, who are simply riding a wave which will wash away as rapidly as their mock
ego-driven political opinions when a Democrat gets back in the White House.
Our hope is that Sheen's stance, which is by no means a rarity for him or
his family who have been politically engaged for decades, will encourage other
high profile celebrities to use their platform to educate America and the
world on the serious issues that face us and the real perpetrators of global
terrorism.
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:25:29 +0100
From: Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: No Plane Theory
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 05:48, Ben Kramer wrote:
> Greetings Everyone,
>
>
> I have been a member here for less than two weeks, and I see that
> the "NO PLANE" theory has been often discussed. Its something that I
> heard and thought that it might be possible in the past but not now
> with one bit of evidence.
> If one carefully watches the video of the second plane that
> crashed into the WTC, you can see that one of the engines goes right
> thru the building and out on the other side of the building towards
> the street.
>
> I have seen pics of this engine on the Jeff Rense website where
> it had landed out on the street a couple of blocks from the WTC. An
> airplane mechanic has examined the picture and stated that he knows
> for sure that it didnt come from a commercial airliner.
>
> Based on this information I believe that its impossible that
> there was no plane that hit the WTC and I thinks its very possible
> that this theory is merely misinformation by certain entities that
> would like to derail the truth movement.
> Maybe Ben Chertoff planted this story outside of PM magazine ?
> Michael Chertoff's cousin. Anyway I welcome any and all comments on
> this issue.
>
> Brett K
I agree Brett...
This looks more and more like deliberate disinformation.
I discussed this with webfairy (Rosalee Garble) some weeks ago. When I was
pointing reasonable evidence to the plane and spoke about video compression
artifacts to explain why the plane looks on one video, she responded with
insults...
I've also noticed that she posts huge amount of message containing this BS
and has websites and the like. An obvious should be: where does she find
the time to do all this ? What is her source of income ? This also
applies for Nico Haupt.
I've also noticed that these people have almost no scientific knowledge but
pretend to better know than the rest of the world.
I have the feeling also that this is done intentionally to deceive us and to
ridicule the people who point that no plane crashed at the pentagon.
This is a little bit like attempting to brainwash people into believing that
Kennedy was never shot in the head, but was a special effect created by
extra-terrestrial beings. Completely ridiculous, but a perfect tool
manipulated by some medias to discredit honest research on the topic.
--
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:26:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: [Conspiracy Archive] Update: Mar. 21st, 2006
Terry <tm@conspiracyarchive.com> wrote: From: "Terry" <tm@conspiracyarchive.com>
To: "" <updates@conspiracyarchive.com>
Subject: [Conspiracy Archive] Update: Mar. 21st, 2006
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:10:58 -0400
Conspiracy Archive Update: Mar. 21st, 2006
CONTENTS
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1. Document(s) Added
2. News Updates
3. Little Known Gems
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Lt. Colonel Marvin, TrineDay Legal Defense Fund (Please Help!)
http://expendableelite.com/lawsuit1/
1. DOCUMENT(s) ADDED
THE ROLE OF THE SOCIAL SCIENCES IN THE MECHANIZATION OF MANKIND
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Commentary/Maschinenmenschen.htm
Skinner presented his psychologically engineered Utopia as a roman a' clef entitled Walden Two. Characterizing Walden Two as an innocuous fiction, Skinner stated: "The 'behavioral engineering' I had so frequently mentioned in the book was, at the time, little more than science fiction" (vi). Yet, "behavioral conditioning" was much more than science fiction to dark forces with dark intentions.
2. NEWS UPDATES
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/News/
[Note: the following is a text version of the headlines. There may be embedded links and/or photos that accompany the stories at the above URL]
ALEX JONES INTERVIEWS CHARLIE SHEEN
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/200306sheen.htm
Alex welcomes actor Charlie Sheen, star of Platoon, Wall Street, Young Guns, and most recently the CBS comedy Two & a Half Men, to discuss his views on the world, 9/11 and much more.
ACTOR CHARLIE SHEEN QUESTIONS OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/200306charliesheen.htm
Calls for truly independent investigation, joins growing ranks of prominent credible whistleblowers.
DIGGING UP THE SKULL AND BONES CONNECTION
http://tinyurl.com/hpbgv
IF PRIME Minister John Howard ever wants anything from the new United States ambassador, Robert McCallum, here's a suggestion: don't mention General Russell. [...] Both George Bush and Robert McCallum are members of Skull and Bones, the Yale society with a fixation on the symbols of death. The society is said to have the skull of the Apache chief Geronimo, dug up by Mr Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush, in a glass case.
CONTRACTORS HIRED TO SUBVERT BILL OF RIGHTS
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=295
CIFA Director David A. Burtt II said in a recent interview that 70 percent of his agency�s work is handled by contractors,� thus taking a large portion of CIFA intelligence activity off the books. Pincus insists on slanting his story toward the �brain drain� aspect of the move toward contractors. However, the privatization of �intelligence gathering� and the complete lack of accountability should be of more concern.
THIS ID PROJECT IS EVEN MORE SINISTER THAN WE FIRST THOUGHT
http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/lead-story443.htm
The insidious erosion of our civil liberties will accelerate dramatically if the government wins the battle over identity cards.
TAGGERS
http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/lead-story445.htm
Mikey Sklar is twenty-eight. He is five feet six, with an oval face, a high forehead, dark eyes, and brown hair in dreadlocks that fall to the middle of his back. His appearance is post-modern. He has no tattoos, for example, or any desire to have any parts of his body pierced. He does have a radiofrequency identification chip implanted in him, though, and he is enthusiastic about having other electronic devices implanted in him, too.
GOVT TO SIGN MOU FOR MAITREYA PROJECT
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1455262,prtpage-1.cms
The installation of the statue and its associated infrastructure will require approximately 75 acres of land, while a further 175 acres will be required [...] a 150 feet bronze statue of the future Buddha Maitreya will be constructed. The centrepiece of a beautiful landscape park, the statue of Maitreya Buddha, will last about 1,000 years
DERANGED, DISCONNECTED, AND DANGEROUS
http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts157.html
The day before Bush's delusional Cleveland speech, Iyad Allawi, the former prime minister of one of our make-believe Iraqi governments, said that in Iraq the casualty rate from the sectarian strife is so high that "if this is not civil war, then God knows what civil war is."
A POST-NOVEMBER 5TH WORLD
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/03/post-november-5th-world.html
[...] the backstory of medical experimentation to which V had been subject is extended to a black ops bio-weapons attack on schools and public transit, leading to the deaths of 100,000 people. Foreign patsies are framed and executed, and the government rewarded with limitless authority in exchange for the promise of security.
MUSHROOM CLOUDS: COMING TO A TOWN NEAR YOU?
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=7018
Thirty four years and millions of dollars later, CIA documents reveal the amazing success and dismal failures of STAR GATE, the formerly top secret intelligence agency programs used to "remote view" information that couldn't be accessed by any normal means of collection.
HOW THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY PLAYED DIRTY TRICKS WITH OUR CULTURE
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/031800-02.htm
Much of what Ms. Stonor Saunders writes about, including the C.I.A.'s covert sponsorship of the Paris-based Congress for Cultural Freedom and the British opinion magazine Encounter, was exposed in the late 1960's, generating a wave of indignation. But by combing through archives and unpublished manuscripts and interviewing several of the principal actors, Ms. Stonor Saunders has uncovered many new details and gives the most comprehensive account yet of the agency's activities between 1947 and 1967.
THE INFESTATION IN WASHINGTON
http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deanna36.htm
There is a noxious parasite like affliction affecting many in the nation�s capital and has been for some time. It appears to affect a person�s integrity and it can easily lead to corruption and its legality is questionable. Lobbyism is the name of this foul infestation. The lobbyist uses bribery to appeal to the greed, pride and ego of the elected. Many elected officials (former attorneys) morph into this parasite following their congressional term. Most of them are especially skilled in mendacity. This new career further enhances their already sizeable pensions. The taxpayer foots the pension, the health plan and gets deprived of any real influence with their elected official.
3. LITTLE KNOWN GEMS
Royal Descents of famous people
http://humphrysfamilytree.com/famous.descents.html
Presidential hopefuls share blueblood lines
http://www.s-t.com/daily/10-96/10-28-96/a05wn028.htm
The Oil Monarchs: George W. Bush and his Royal Kin
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=553
Directory of Royal Genealogical Data
http://www3.dcs.hull.ac.uk/genealogy/royal/
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:31:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: No Plane Theory
Brett and Patrick, I am completely with the both of you on this. Thanks for your posts and once again welcome to the group and thanks for joining
Kevin
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 05:48, Ben Kramer wrote:
> Greetings Everyone,
>
>
> I have been a member here for less than two weeks, and I see that
> the "NO PLANE" theory has been often discussed. Its something that I
> heard and thought that it might be possible in the past but not now
> with one bit of evidence.
> If one carefully watches the video of the second plane that
> crashed into the WTC, you can see that one of the engines goes right
> thru the building and out on the other side of the building towards
> the street.
>
> I have seen pics of this engine on the Jeff Rense website where
> it had landed out on the street a couple of blocks from the WTC. An
> airplane mechanic has examined the picture and stated that he knows
> for sure that it didnt come from a commercial airliner.
>
> Based on this information I believe that its impossible that
> there was no plane that hit the WTC and I thinks its very possible
> that this theory is merely misinformation by certain entities that
> would like to derail the truth movement.
> Maybe Ben Chertoff planted this story outside of PM magazine ?
> Michael Chertoff's cousin. Anyway I welcome any and all comments on
> this issue.
>
> Brett K
I agree Brett...
This looks more and more like deliberate disinformation.
I discussed this with webfairy (Rosalee Garble) some weeks ago. When I was
pointing reasonable evidence to the plane and spoke about video compression
artifacts to explain why the plane looks on one video, she responded with
insults...
I've also noticed that she posts huge amount of message containing this BS
and has websites and the like. An obvious should be: where does she find
the time to do all this ? What is her source of income ? This also
applies for Nico Haupt.
I've also noticed that these people have almost no scientific knowledge but
pretend to better know than the rest of the world.
I have the feeling also that this is done intentionally to deceive us and to
ridicule the people who point that no plane crashed at the pentagon.
This is a little bit like attempting to brainwash people into believing that
Kennedy was never shot in the head, but was a special effect created by
extra-terrestrial beings. Completely ridiculous, but a perfect tool
manipulated by some medias to discredit honest research on the topic.
--
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:40:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: No Plane Theory
THEE MOST suspicious thing regarding the pentagon was that the FBI showed up 5 minutes or so after the plane/no plane crashed (what ever you believe) to confiscate the citgo surveillance tapes and at a hotel after what had happened at the pentagon with their guns drawn? what do they have to hide? incompetent MY ASS! national geographic article reference available upon request.
honestly it doesn't matter what hit the pentagon, or WTCs, its ALL suspicious, and the "officials" are blocking, lying, covering up, not speaking about what happened that day. And don't forget about the fact that british SAS commandos were dressed up like arabs shooting at basra police with about 500lbs of explosives in their car and standard issue SAS gear? (suicide car bombs anyone?) when the brits asked basra city officials to release the SAS thugs, they refused and the brits launched a prison break mission completmented with armor!
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 05:48, Ben Kramer wrote:
> Greetings Everyone,
>
>
> I have been a member here for less than two weeks, and I see that
> the "NO PLANE" theory has been often discussed. Its something that I
> heard and thought that it might be possible in the past but not now
> with one bit of evidence.
> If one carefully watches the video of the second plane that
> crashed into the WTC, you can see that one of the engines goes right
> thru the building and out on the other side of the building towards
> the street.
>
> I have seen pics of this engine on the Jeff Rense website where
> it had landed out on the street a couple of blocks from the WTC. An
> airplane mechanic has examined the picture and stated that he knows
> for sure that it didnt come from a commercial airliner.
>
> Based on this information I believe that its impossible that
> there was no plane that hit the WTC and I thinks its very possible
> that this theory is merely misinformation by certain entities that
> would like to derail the truth movement.
> Maybe Ben Chertoff planted this story outside of PM magazine ?
> Michael Chertoff's cousin. Anyway I welcome any and all comments on
> this issue.
>
> Brett K
I agree Brett...
This looks more and more like deliberate disinformation.
I discussed this with webfairy (Rosalee Garble) some weeks ago. When I was
pointing reasonable evidence to the plane and spoke about video compression
artifacts to explain why the plane looks on one video, she responded with
insults...
I've also noticed that she posts huge amount of message containing this BS
and has websites and the like. An obvious should be: where does she find
the time to do all this ? What is her source of income ? This also
applies for Nico Haupt.
I've also noticed that these people have almost no scientific knowledge but
pretend to better know than the rest of the world.
I have the feeling also that this is done intentionally to deceive us and to
ridicule the people who point that no plane crashed at the pentagon.
This is a little bit like attempting to brainwash people into believing that
Kennedy was never shot in the head, but was a special effect created by
extra-terrestrial beings. Completely ridiculous, but a perfect tool
manipulated by some medias to discredit honest research on the topic.
--
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:41:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: No Plane Theory
Actually, I DO think that there ARE some people that have allowed themselves to buy this story and are not necessarily purposefully putting out disinfo. There are those that would also label the lihopers as disinfo too when some of them are, some of them actualy do believe what they do and are not disinfo agents. Personally I just no longer concern myself with these things and just put out the info that I believe. Demolitions, stand down, money trail, and the New World Order/Illuminati, And just work as hard as I can to educate others.
Kevin
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 05:48, Ben Kramer wrote:
> Greetings Everyone,
>
>
> I have been a member here for less than two weeks, and I see that
> the "NO PLANE" theory has been often discussed. Its something that I
> heard and thought that it might be possible in the past but not now
> with one bit of evidence.
> If one carefully watches the video of the second plane that
> crashed into the WTC, you can see that one of the engines goes right
> thru the building and out on the other side of the building towards
> the street.
>
> I have seen pics of this engine on the Jeff Rense website where
> it had landed out on the street a couple of blocks from the WTC. An
> airplane mechanic has examined the picture and stated that he knows
> for sure that it didnt come from a commercial airliner.
>
> Based on this information I believe that its impossible that
> there was no plane that hit the WTC and I thinks its very possible
> that this theory is merely misinformation by certain entities that
> would like to derail the truth movement.
> Maybe Ben Chertoff planted this story outside of PM magazine ?
> Michael Chertoff's cousin. Anyway I welcome any and all comments on
> this issue.
>
> Brett K
I agree Brett...
This looks more and more like deliberate disinformation.
I discussed this with webfairy (Rosalee Garble) some weeks ago. When I was
pointing reasonable evidence to the plane and spoke about video compression
artifacts to explain why the plane looks on one video, she responded with
insults...
I've also noticed that she posts huge amount of message containing this BS
and has websites and the like. An obvious should be: where does she find
the time to do all this ? What is her source of income ? This also
applies for Nico Haupt.
I've also noticed that these people have almost no scientific knowledge but
pretend to better know than the rest of the world.
I have the feeling also that this is done intentionally to deceive us and to
ridicule the people who point that no plane crashed at the pentagon.
This is a little bit like attempting to brainwash people into believing that
Kennedy was never shot in the head, but was a special effect created by
extra-terrestrial beings. Completely ridiculous, but a perfect tool
manipulated by some medias to discredit honest research on the topic.
--
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:44:14 EST
From: Mofmars3@wmconnect.com
Subject: Ohio - Lawyer arrested for speaking out
<A HREF="http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/111405Baumgartner.html">http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/111405Baumgartner.html</A> originally
posted November 14, 2005. Here is an outrageous case that is apparently
still pending after all this time. It is based on what two people - one of them a
lawyer - wrote on blogs about corruption in the state of Ohio concerning
judges and other public officials. A must read.... Please feel free to pass this
info around.
Google search on defendant Elsebeth Baumgartner reveals more information.
How many more cases do you know about where someone is maliciously prosecuted
for committing truth against public officials? Roberta Franklin's case in
Alabama comes to mind as one case some of you might know about.
Judges and other public officials are not gods. They are human beings and as
such they are not above the law, but some of them think they are. Abuse of
power must end. Stay aware.
Respectfully,
Sherry Swiney
Director, P.A.T.R.I.C.K.
<A HREF="http://www.patrickcrusade.org/">www.patrickcrusade.org</A>
Member of the Board, NJCDLP
<A HREF="http://www.njcdlp.org/">http://www.njcdlp.org/</A>
Patrick Swiney-innocent in prison
<A HREF="http://www.patrickswiney.com/">www.patrickswiney.com</A>
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nothing" Edmund Burke (1729–1797), Irish philosopher, statesman
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:46:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: No Plane Theory
AMEN BROTHER!
Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote: THEE MOST suspicious thing regarding the pentagon was that the FBI showed up 5 minutes or so after the plane/no plane crashed (what ever you believe) to confiscate the citgo surveillance tapes and at a hotel after what had happened at the pentagon with their guns drawn? what do they have to hide? incompetent MY ASS! national geographic article reference available upon request.
honestly it doesn't matter what hit the pentagon, or WTCs, its ALL suspicious, and the "officials" are blocking, lying, covering up, not speaking about what happened that day. And don't forget about the fact that british SAS commandos were dressed up like arabs shooting at basra police with about 500lbs of explosives in their car and standard issue SAS gear? (suicide car bombs anyone?) when the brits asked basra city officials to release the SAS thugs, they refused and the brits launched a prison break mission completmented with armor!
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 05:48, Ben Kramer wrote:
> Greetings Everyone,
>
>
> I have been a member here for less than two weeks, and I see that
> the "NO PLANE" theory has been often discussed. Its something that I
> heard and thought that it might be possible in the past but not now
> with one bit of evidence.
> If one carefully watches the video of the second plane that
> crashed into the WTC, you can see that one of the engines goes right
> thru the building and out on the other side of the building towards
> the street.
>
> I have seen pics of this engine on the Jeff Rense website where
> it had landed out on the street a couple of blocks from the WTC. An
> airplane mechanic has examined the picture and stated that he knows
> for sure that it didnt come from a commercial airliner.
>
> Based on this information I believe that its impossible that
> there was no plane that hit the WTC and I thinks its very possible
> that this theory is merely misinformation by certain entities that
> would like to derail the truth movement.
> Maybe Ben Chertoff planted this story outside of PM magazine ?
> Michael Chertoff's cousin. Anyway I welcome any and all comments on
> this issue.
>
> Brett K
I agree Brett...
This looks more and more like deliberate disinformation.
I discussed this with webfairy (Rosalee Garble) some weeks ago. When I was
pointing reasonable evidence to the plane and spoke about video compression
artifacts to explain why the plane looks on one video, she responded with
insults...
I've also noticed that she posts huge amount of message containing this BS
and has websites and the like. An obvious should be: where does she find
the time to do all this ? What is her source of income ? This also
applies for Nico Haupt.
I've also noticed that these people have almost no scientific knowledge but
pretend to better know than the rest of the world.
I have the feeling also that this is done intentionally to deceive us and to
ridicule the people who point that no plane crashed at the pentagon.
This is a little bit like attempting to brainwash people into believing that
Kennedy was never shot in the head, but was a special effect created by
extra-terrestrial beings. Completely ridiculous, but a perfect tool
manipulated by some medias to discredit honest research on the topic.
--
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:13:13 EST
From: Moondancermom@aol.com
Subject: Uranium bombing in Iraq contaminates Europe
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - Request Wide Distribution
Contact: Bob Nichols
San Francisco Bay View newspaper
_bob.bobnichols@gmail.com_ (mailto:bob.bobnichols@gmail.com)
Uranium bombing in Iraq contaminates Europe
by Bob Nichols Aldermaston Atomic Weapons Establishment
Nine days after the start of the American president's 2003 "shock and awe"
uranium bombing campaign in Baghdad, an invisible radioactive uranium oxide
gas cloud swept through Britain's towns and countryside and throughout Europe.
Respected scientists reported on the unrevealed gas cloud after conducting
research on specialized high volume air filters in England. Dr. Chris Busby
and Saoirse Morgan stunned Europe in a Sunday Times of London article on Feb.
19, 2006. Their scientific paper, released March 1st, 2006, [1] proved the
event. With all the vigor of delusional drunkards, British nuclear and military
spokesmen predictably denied the reality of an invisible radioactive cloud.
_http://www.sfbayview.com/031506/uraniumbombing031506.shtml_
(http://www.sfbayview.com/031506/uraniumbombing031506.shtml)
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:14:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Walch <caribbean10@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: No Plane Theory
No offense to anyone. But unless you are posting something pertinent then can we just respond back to that person you are responding to because otherwise everyone gets a massive load of emails in their inbox and for someone like me who really wants to read what is posted I don't have time to go through 20 repsponses with 19 people agreeing with someone.
Again, I'm not trying to offend anyone or piss you off. I am highly intrigued with this group and want to see it grow and the information to keep coming. Just simply ask that we keep our responses to individuals if possible.
Walk in Peace and keep the truth coming!
Matt
Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:
AMEN BROTHER!
Naveed <flanker12k@yahoo.com> wrote: THEE MOST suspicious thing regarding the pentagon was that the FBI showed up 5 minutes or so after the plane/no plane crashed (what ever you believe) to confiscate the citgo surveillance tapes and at a hotel after what had happened at the pentagon with their guns drawn? what do they have to hide? incompetent MY ASS! national geographic article reference available upon request.
honestly it doesn't matter what hit the pentagon, or WTCs, its ALL suspicious, and the "officials" are blocking, lying, covering up, not speaking about what happened that day. And don't forget about the fact that british SAS commandos were dressed up like arabs shooting at basra police with about 500lbs of explosives in their car and standard issue SAS gear? (suicide car bombs anyone?) when the brits asked basra city officials to release the SAS thugs, they refused and the brits launched a prison break mission completmented with armor!
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 05:48, Ben Kramer wrote:
> Greetings Everyone,
>
>
> I have been a member here for less than two weeks, and I see that
> the "NO PLANE" theory has been often discussed. Its something that I
> heard and thought that it might be possible in the past but not now
> with one bit of evidence.
> If one carefully watches the video of the second plane that
> crashed into the WTC, you can see that one of the engines goes right
> thru the building and out on the other side of the building towards
> the street.
>
> I have seen pics of this engine on the Jeff Rense website where
> it had landed out on the street a couple of blocks from the WTC. An
> airplane mechanic has examined the picture and stated that he knows
> for sure that it didnt come from a commercial airliner.
>
> Based on this information I believe that its impossible that
> there was no plane that hit the WTC and I thinks its very possible
> that this theory is merely misinformation by certain entities that
> would like to derail the truth movement.
> Maybe Ben Chertoff planted this story outside of PM magazine ?
> Michael Chertoff's cousin. Anyway I welcome any and all comments on
> this issue.
>
> Brett K
I agree Brett...
This looks more and more like deliberate disinformation.
I discussed this with webfairy (Rosalee Garble) some weeks ago. When I was
pointing reasonable evidence to the plane and spoke about video compression
artifacts to explain why the plane looks on one video, she responded with
insults...
I've also noticed that she posts huge amount of message containing this BS
and has websites and the like. An obvious should be: where does she find
the time to do all this ? What is her source of income ? This also
applies for Nico Haupt.
I've also noticed that these people have almost no scientific knowledge but
pretend to better know than the rest of the world.
I have the feeling also that this is done intentionally to deceive us and to
ridicule the people who point that no plane crashed at the pentagon.
This is a little bit like attempting to brainwash people into believing that
Kennedy was never shot in the head, but was a special effect created by
extra-terrestrial beings. Completely ridiculous, but a perfect tool
manipulated by some medias to discredit honest research on the topic.
--
Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:21:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists Run Amok (from NY Magazine)
The so-called answer coalition and ufpj are PERFECT examples of organizations being subverted and controlled.
Scott Peden <scotpeden@cruzio.com> wrote:
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} And I agree so heartily with Naveed.
I take articles from here and post them to many groups that until a few months ago were afraid to talk about �9/11 was an inside job�, now it is approaching breakfast table talk on those groups. Hopefully others are picking the articles up and sharing them too.
A dozen dozen people forwarding articles onto their 12-30 groups makes for a United front, but a Fabian United front, we have no single heart and brain to kill.
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From: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com [mailto:911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Naveed
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:47 PM
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists Run Amok (from NY Magazine)
this is one of the reasons I REFUSE to form a united front, it can easily be subverted, bought off, and etc INDIVIDUAL forms of resistance does NOT have a counter to, because there are millions of us and thus millions of forms of resistance to the inbred satanist crazies....
Dick Eastman <olfriend@nwinfo.net> wrote:
Nico did the hatchet job -- false opposition "representing us" when we are
not looking
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To: <911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:16 PM
Subject: [911TruthAction] 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists Run Amok (from NY
Magazine)
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:33:53 +0100
From: Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: No Plane Theory
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 20:41, Kevin Hammond wrote:
> Actually, I DO think that there ARE some people that have allowed
> themselves to buy this story and are not necessarily purposefully putting
> out disinfo. There are those that would also label the lihopers as
> disinfo too when some of them are, some of them actualy do believe what
> they do and are not disinfo agents. Personally I just no longer concern
> myself with these things and just put out the info that I believe.
> Demolitions, stand down, money trail, and the New World
> Order/Illuminati, And just work as hard as I can to educate others.
>
> Kevin
I fully agree, but I more and more think that some do it voluntarily...
As an example, in Europe (I'm swiss in fact), there is now a new "official"
theory about Kennedy's assassination. They made a TV documentary that was
aired some months ago... You know what ? The Cubans assassinated
Kennedy !!
Do you know from where I originally knew Nico Haupt ? From a german TV
documentary about 9/11. BTW this report was excellent. But why do they
interrogate such people ?
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Patrick BURNAND <pburnand@yahoo.com>
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:45:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: [WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED] Kissinger sez it again...
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 06:39:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [WETHEPEOPLE_UNITED] Kissinger sez it again...
Kissinger sez it again...
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/theworld/2006/March/theworld_March572.xml§ion=theworld
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:03:33 -0800
From: "Dick Eastman" <de1949@nwinfo.net>
Subject: Re: No Plane Theory
Brother Greg,
I may have missed something. Please list and briefly describe findings that leave your mind open to the idea that no jetliners crashed at the WTC on September 11, 2001. I am not looking for proof or certainty -- but just something beyond the "finding" that "anything is possible."
For example, if I believed that no firemen died at the WTC, I would have to give reasons for saying that -- something beyond merely saying "no one interviewed ever said they saw a fireman die" or "no fireman corpses have ever been photographed" etc.
Yours in sweet sincerity,
Brother Richard
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From: greg nixon
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] No Plane Theory
Sorry I have to disagree with my brother Kevin. He cannot make a statement with absolute assurance when there is evidence to the contrary. There is enough evidence to say the alleged commercial aircraft i.e. 175 and 11 did not hit the WTC, as for what hit the towers is ongoing and what researcher Ewing2001 calls "backend research." Brett if you think you can make the case that 'no planes' is 'dis-info' you are invited to test your debating skills against the researchers at Yahoo Group "planehuggers" Good Luck! Please see articles of recent note:
http://www.reopen911.org/bluescreen.htm
http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=we_have_holes
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/911chron_timeline_nico.html
Greg Nixon
Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:
There is absolutely NO DOUBT that planes hit the wtc. We do NOT dissemenate hologram hogwash on this group. it is questionable what hit the pentagon but I personally dont dwell on that aspect too much. What IS known is that the man that the fbi said flew te plane into the pentagon could NOT have done so at all. He could not even drive a car. His name was Hani Hanjour. They named another man before him whose name escapes me at the moment who came forward and said HEY! I am ALIVE! You have named the wrong man! So they saw fit to pull Mr. Hanjour's name out of the very same hat as the other fellah.
Kevin
P.S. Welcome to the group. And please check out www.911research.com www.wtc7.net www.infowars.com www.globalresearch.ca and www.onlinejournal.com If you happen to live in San Francisco, Watch my weekly tv show on cable channel 29 every sat. night at midnite.
Ben Kramer <benkramer1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greetings Everyone,
I have been a member here for less than two weeks, and I see that
the "NO PLANE" theory has been often discussed. Its something that I
heard and thought that it might be possible in the past but not now
with one bit of evidence.
If one carefully watches the video of the second plane that
crashed into the WTC, you can see that one of the engines goes right
thru the building and out on the other side of the building towards
the street.
I have seen pics of this engine on the Jeff Rense website where
it had landed out on the street a couple of blocks from the WTC. An
airplane mechanic has examined the picture and stated that he knows
for sure that it didnt come from a commercial airliner.
Based on this information I believe that its impossible that
there was no plane that hit the WTC and I thinks its very possible
that this theory is merely misinformation by certain entities that
would like to derail the truth movement.
Maybe Ben Chertoff planted this story outside of PM magazine ?
Michael Chertoff's cousin. Anyway I welcome any and all comments on
this issue.
Brett K
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:22:45 -0800 (PST)
From: greg nixon <nxngrg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: No Plane Theory
The BTS does not list "flight 11" in the database. Radar analysis for "flight 175 and 11" does not show them at the scene of the crime at the correct time. In the Naudet 1st hit footage, there is nothing that is discernable as a jumbo jet. the original eyewitness testimony was of a small commuter craft for ("flight 11") The 2nd hit none of the witnesses have checked out, there were reports of NOT seeing a plane. The 2nd hit footage looks highly suspicious upon entry into the WTC. The exit of debris of the South tower looks like a white hot Uranium tipped missile head. IMO....The video analyis of the CNN footage seems to lead to being a CGI/faked. The different footage from other sources appears to contradict each other(in flight trajectory). The only real "proof" seems to be merely the government's word. The Amalgam Virgo 01 drill in June of 2001 which seems to be closely like 9/11 itself was a drill with cruise missile attacks. Perfect cover to carry out actual operation.
Dick Eastman <de1949@nwinfo.net> wrote: Brother Greg,
I may have missed something. Please list and briefly describe findings that leave your mind open to the idea that no jetliners crashed at the WTC on September 11, 2001. I am not looking for proof or certainty -- but just something beyond the "finding" that "anything is possible."
For example, if I believed that no firemen died at the WTC, I would have to give reasons for saying that -- something beyond merely saying "no one interviewed ever said they saw a fireman die" or "no fireman corpses have ever been photographed" etc.
Yours in sweet sincerity,
Brother Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: greg nixon
To: 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [911TruthAction] No Plane Theory
Sorry I have to disagree with my brother Kevin. He cannot make a statement with absolute assurance when there is evidence to the contrary. There is enough evidence to say the alleged commercial aircraft i.e. 175 and 11 did not hit the WTC, as for what hit the towers is ongoing and what researcher Ewing2001 calls "backend research." Brett if you think you can make the case that 'no planes' is 'dis-info' you are invited to test your debating skills against the researchers at Yahoo Group "planehuggers" Good Luck! Please see articles of recent note:
http://www.reopen911.org/bluescreen.htm
http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=we_have_holes
http://www.911closeup.com/nico/911chron_timeline_nico.html
Greg Nixon
Kevin Hammond <sir_oglaigh@yahoo.com> wrote:
There is absolutely NO DOUBT that planes hit the wtc. We do NOT dissemenate hologram hogwash on this group. it is questionable what hit the pentagon but I personally dont dwell on that aspect too much. What IS known is that the man that the fbi said flew te plane into the pentagon could NOT have done so at all. He could not even drive a car. His name was Hani Hanjour. They named another man before him whose name escapes me at the moment who came forward and said HEY! I am ALIVE! You have named the wrong man! So they saw fit to pull Mr. Hanjour's name out of the very same hat as the other fellah.
Kevin
P.S. Welcome to the group. And please check out www.911research.com www.wtc7.net www.infowars.com www.globalresearch.ca and www.onlinejournal.com If you happen to live in San Francisco, Watch my weekly tv show on cable channel 29 every sat. night at midnite.
Ben Kramer <benkramer1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Greetings Everyone,
I have been a member here for less than two weeks, and I see that
the "NO PLANE" theory has been often discussed. Its something that I
heard and thought that it might be possible in the past but not now
with one bit of evidence.
If one carefully watches the video of the second plane that
crashed into the WTC, you can see that one of the engines goes right
thru the building and out on the other side of the building towards
the street.
I have seen pics of this engine on the Jeff Rense website where
it had landed out on the street a couple of blocks from the WTC. An
airplane mechanic has examined the picture and stated that he knows
for sure that it didnt come from a commercial airliner.
Based on this information I believe that its impossible that
there was no plane that hit the WTC and I thinks its very possible
that this theory is merely misinformation by certain entities that
would like to derail the truth movement.
Maybe Ben Chertoff planted this story outside of PM magazine ?
Michael Chertoff's cousin. Anyway I welcome any and all comments on
this issue.
Brett K
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