Thursday, October 13, 2005
Bush Appoints 9/11 Insider to Head Army Spy Agency :: Break For News :: Breaking News and Multimedia
Bush Appoints 9/11 Insider to Head Army Spy Agency :: Break For News :: Breaking News and Multimedia
Wednesday, October 12, 2005
It's all the feminist's fault!
CBS News | God And (Wo)man At Yale | October 11, 2005�14:30:06
Blogger Thoughts: What an incredibly inane argument.
Blogger Thoughts: What an incredibly inane argument.
An American in chains - Sunday Times - Times Online
An American in chains - Sunday Times - Times Online
An American in chains
James Yee entered Guantanamo as a patriotic US officer and Muslim chaplain. He ended up in shackles, branded a spy. This is his disturbing story
An American in chains
James Yee entered Guantanamo as a patriotic US officer and Muslim chaplain. He ended up in shackles, branded a spy. This is his disturbing story
My cell was 8ft by 6ft, the same size as the detainees’ cages at Guantanamo. Barely a week ago I had received a glowing evaluation for my work as the US army’s Muslim chaplain among the “Gitmo” prisoners. Now I was the one in chains.
It was my turn to be humiliated every time I was taken to have a shower. Naked, I had to run my hands through my hair to show that I was not concealing a weapon in it. Then mouth open, tongue up, down, nothing inside. Right arm up, nothing in my armpit. Left arm up. Lift the right testicle, nothing hidden. Lift the left. Turn around, bend over, spread your buttocks, knowing a camera was displaying my naked image as male and female guards watched.
It didn’t matter that I was an army captain, a graduate of West Point, the elite US military academy. It didn’t matter that my religious beliefs prohibited me from being fully naked in front of strangers. It didn’t matter that I hadn’t been charged with a crime. It didn’t matter that my wife and daughter had no idea where I was. And it certainly didn’t matter that I was a loyal American citizen and, above all, innocent.
I was accused of mutiny and sedition, aiding the enemy and espionage, all of which carried the death penalty. I was regarded as a traitor to the army and my country. This was all blatantly untrue — as would be proved when, after a long fight, all the charges against me were dropped and I won an honourable discharge from the army.
I knew why I had been arrested: it was because I am a Muslim. I was just the latest victim of the hostility born the moment when the planes flew into the twin towers and the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.
My real “crime” had been that I had tried to ensure that the suspected Taliban and Al-Qaeda fighters detained in the Gitmo cages were given every opportunity to practise their religion freely, one of the most fundamental of American ideals.
I had monitored the atrocious treatment meted out by the guards. And I had come to suspect that my appointment as the prisoners’ chaplain was simply a piece of political theatre.
When reporters came to Guantanamo on the media tour, everyone had always wanted to talk to the Muslim chaplain. I had told them the things that the command expected me to say. We give the detainees a Koran. We announce the prayer five times a day. We serve halal food. Everything I said had been true. But it certainly wasn’t the full story.
I HAVE NOT always been a Muslim. I am a third-generation American — my grandparents left China in the 1920s — and as a child in New Jersey I grudgingly attended Lutheran church services with my mother.
On holiday after graduating from West Point, however, I met a young woman who was intrigued by Islam. I began to read about it and eventually converted. Then, after the US army sent me to Saudi Arabia and allowed me to visit Mecca, I wondered why there were no Muslim chaplains in the US military.
My father had taught me as a boy that America promises all people an opportunity to lead an extraordinary life. By becoming a Muslim chaplain in the summer of 2000, after four years’ study in Damascus, I saw myself fulfilling this opportunity. I had no idea what I was letting myself in for.
Six months after the September 11 attacks I was asked if I would like to work at Camp X-Ray, the new detention centre at Guantanamo Bay. I said that it would be difficult: Huda, my Syrian wife, was still adjusting to life in America and Sarah, our daughter, was in the throes of the “terrible twos”. It turned out, however, that I had no choice.
By the time I got to Guantanamo, Camp X-Ray was too small for the number of prisoners coming in. When I saw its remains I couldn’t believe that humans were once held here. It looked like a cattle yard. There were hundreds of cages in rows. The only protection from the blistering sun was a tin roof. Dozens of enormous rodents crawled throughout the camp. I was told that these were banana rats and would attack if provoked.
The new prison, Camp Delta, consisted of 19 blocks, each holding 48 detainees in individual open-air cells with steel mesh walls. Like other military personnel, I was briefed that the detainees were among the most dangerous terrorists in the world. We were told that many of the prisoners were responsible for the attacks of September 11 and would strike again if given the opportunity.
I expected to come face-to-face with hundreds of Osama Bin Ladens, but most prisoners were friendly. There were approximately 660 from dozens of countries, including Britain.
An English-speaking Saudi detainee named Shaker was eating a military “Meal Ready to Eat” or MRE when I first met him. MREs often led to constipation. “Chaplain,” Shaker called out. “You know what we call this lunch we eat every day? Meals that Refuse to Exit.”
Shaker said that he had settled in London after marrying a British woman. They had three children and his wife had given birth to his fourth child after he was captured. “My youngest son, we named him Faris, I’ve never seen,” he told me. “My wife doesn’t know anything about what happened to me and I’m so worried about her.”
I got to know three men from Britain particularly well: Rhuhel Ahmed, Asif Iqbal and Shafiq Rasul. Ahmed, the most talkative, told me that they had grown up
together in Tipton, near Birmingham. Their families were close and the men were like cousins. All three told me they had never committed a crime and that their arrests had been a serious mistake.
The man in overall charge was Major General Geoffrey Miller, a slight but self-confident Texan in his late fifties. He was later sent to Iraq to make recommendations on improving intelligence collection at Abu Ghraib prison in the months before it became infamous for the maltreatment of its inmates.
If there was trouble with the prisoners, guards were supposed to restore order calmly. But Miller said when visiting Camp Delta or whenever seeing troopers around the base: “The fight is on!” This was a subtle way of saying that rules were relaxed and infractions were easily overlooked.
Miller was a devout Christian. In one of the first private conversations that he and I had, he invited me for a stroll under the watchtowers and told me that several of his friends and colleagues had been killed in the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon.
He had felt a deep anger towards “those Muslims” who attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon — such anger, he explained, that he had sought counselling with a chaplain. I appreciated his candour but I sensed there was a subtle warning behind his words.
THE WORST punishment for prisoners was a “forced cell extraction” by a group of six to eight guards called the Initial Response Force. The troopers called it IRFing.
I witnessed my first IRFing after a military policeman had performed the “credit card swipe” — pressing his fingers inside a detainee’s buttock crack to look for a weapon. This type of physical contact is not acceptable under Islamic law and the detainee had pushed the guard away. But prisoners were not allowed to touch an MP and immediately eight guards were summoned.
They put on riot protection gear — helmets, heavy gloves, shin guards and chest protectors — before forming a huddle and chanting in unison, getting themselves pumped up. Still chanting, they rushed the block, their heavy boots sounding like a stampede on the steel floor. Detainees throughout Camp Delta started to yell and shake their cage doors.
When the IRF team reached the offending detainee, the team leader drenched him with pepper spray and opened the door to his cell. The others charged in. He was no match for eight men in riot gear. The guards used their shields and bodies to force him to the floor. With his wrists and ankles tied, he was dragged down the corridor to solitary confinement.
When it was over the guards high-fived each other and slammed their chests together like professional basketball players — an odd victory celebration for eight men who took down one prisoner.
IRFing was used with extraordinary frequency. Seemingly harmless behaviour could bring it on: not responding when a guard spoke or having two plastic cups in a cage instead of the regulation one. Invasive body searches occurred daily and were a constant source of tension leading to IRFing. I came to believe that the searches were done solely to rile the detainees. The prisoners had been locked in cages for several months in a remote area of Cuba. What could they possibly be hiding?
Violent episodes were increasing. In one incident a guard had to be hauled off a handcuffed detainee whom he was beating on the head with a handheld radio. By the time I arrived the detainee had been taken to the hospital, but his blood was fresh on the ground and what appeared to be large pieces of flesh were soaking in it.
Bad as this violence was, many soldiers discovered a weapon far more powerful than fists: Islam. Because religion was the most important issue for nearly all the prisoners in Camp Delta, it became the most important weapon used against them.
Guards mocked the call to prayer and rattled doors, threw stones against the cages and played loud rock’n’roll music as the prisoners prayed.
Knowing that physical contact between unrelated men and women is not allowed under Islamic law, female guards would be exceptionally inappropriate in how they patted down the prisoners or touched them on the way to the showers or recreation. Detainees often resisted and were IRFed.
The guards knew that Muslims believe that the Koran contains the actual words of God and is to be treated with the utmost respect. I never heard of an incident where a detainee hid anything dangerous in the Koran; doing so would be considered an insult. Yet the guards shook the prisoners’ Korans violently, broke bindings, ripped pages and dropped the
book on the floor, all on the pretext of searching them.
Some of the worst complaints that I received were about what was happening inside the interrogation rooms. Some of the translators — Muslim military personnel like me — told stories about female interrogators who would take off their clothes during the sessions. One would pretend to masturbate in front of detainees. She was also known to touch them in a sexual way and make them rub her breasts and genitalia. A translator who had witnessed this woman’s behaviour told me that her supervisor had told her to tone down the tactics but had not disciplined her.
Translators with the Joint Intelligence Group (JIG) also confirmed that some prisoners were forced to prostrate themselves in the centre of a satanic circle lit with candles. Interrogators shouted at them, “Satan is your God, not Allah! Repeat that after me!”
I came to believe that the hostile environment and animosity towards Islam were so ingrained in the operation that Miller and the other camp leaders had lost sight of the moral harm we were doing.
I began to keep a record of the atrocities that I was hearing about. But the more time I spent on the blocks the more aggressive many of the guards became towards me. I was authorised to have unescorted access and to speak with detainees in privacy. But guards eavesdropped on my conversations, standing very close and attempting to intimidate me. Most refused to move away.
“I’ve been told to stay within one arm’s length of you at all times,” one guard told me.
When an administrative assistant in the navy chaplain’s office showed me a slanderous and hatefilled diatribe against Muslims that was to be inserted into a weekly newsletter to hundreds of Christian military personnel on the base, I decided it was time for action.
It began, “Egyptian Muslim Mohammad Farouk hated Christians . . . in an attempt to obey the Koran and please Allah, Mohammad and his friends began to assault and harass Christians in their village . . .” It claimed that the Koran instructs Muslims to espouse violence and hatred, the opposite of the truth.
Yet Vincent Salamoni, a Catholic priest who worked as the naval command chaplain, only grudgingly complied with the advice from the Christian chief chaplain on the base not to distribute this material. Salamoni said that he felt it was necessary first to find out if the Koran did instruct Muslims to kill Christians.
In briefings to newcomers to the base, given with the express support of the operations staff, I tried to dispel the principal myth that all Muslims are terrorists. Little did I understand that by trying to educate my colleagues about the need for religious tolerance, I was encouraging them to suspect me.
Although I had been ordered to prepare the presentation by the command, the fact that I talked knowledgeably about Islam was enough to lead some of them to question my loyalty.
Captain Jason Orlich, an army reservist who had taught in a Catholic school before arriving in Guantanamo to take charge of intelligence and security for detention operations, sat in my briefing on his first day and asked: “Is he on our side or is he on the enemy’s side?” As I was to discover much
later from court documents, he made it his mission to keep an eye on me. Nor was I the only one under suspicion: Muslim colleagues — all loyal Americans — were spied on and bugged.
When I got together with other Muslim personnel on the base, our conversation routinely turned to what appeared to be open religious hostility.
Ahmad al-Halabi, a young airman who helped me with the detainees’ library of religious books, told me that he had been given a copy of a CD widely circulated by the troopers. Among the images on it was a phoney Playboy cover showing Muslim women in provocative dress and poses, and another depicting Muslim men engaged in anal sex during prayer. He suspected that the disc had originated in the security section headed by Orlich, who appeared in several photographs on the disc.
All of us on the base knew that, like the detainees, we were likely to be under surveillance wherever we were. Watch what you’re saying, soldiers would joke, because the “secret squirrels” are listening. We never knew exactly who they were, but the government agencies represented on the island included the FBI, Naval Criminal Investigative Service, Army Counterintelligence and the CIA. Nothing was off limits. Our e-mails were read, our telephone calls were monitored and everything we said had the potential of being overheard.
I had a feeling that our Muslim Friday prayers, attended by about 40 in a small room at the chapel complex of the camp, were under surveillance. Men in khakis and polo shirts — the common uniform of the FBI and CIA — would stand just outside, watching to see who came and went. I sometimes asked if they wanted to join us but they always declined, offering no explanation of their presence. A translator confirmed that a man sitting outside was an FBI agent he had worked with in interrogations.
WHEN I was given a larger apartment to live in, I called some of the guys to come over and share evening prayers in my spare bedroom. Afterwards we hung around in my living room and had sodas and snacks. Before long, evening prayers at my house became a frequent occasion and word spread among the Muslim personnel that anyone who wanted to join us was welcome. People started turning up with tasty Middle Eastern food. I did not realise what the repercussions would be.
Many months later I learnt the facts from court documents.
People initially became suspicious of me because of the presentation that I gave during the newcomers’ briefing. Stories quietly began to circulate about me and my fellow Muslim personnel. We were too sympathetic to the plight of the detainees and too critical of how the MPs treated the prisoners. We prayed together on Friday afternoons. Orlich even noted that Ahmad was seen to be “shadow boxing” as he left the chapel.
“I found that to be odd,” Orlich told a military investigator.
The accusations were retold and exaggerated in back yards and on the beaches during the hot Cuban evenings, fuelled by boredom and discount vodka. Some troopers adopted names for us: “the
Muslim clique” and, far more disturbing, Hamas, after the Palestinian organisation.
Did these soldiers truly believe the things they were saying about us and were they truly threatened by the fact that we practised our religion? Or were they just caught up in the pervasive anti-Muslim hostility that defined the mission? I believe that those who accused us of being “radical Islamists” were unable to see that someone can be a Muslim and not be a terrorist.
Most of the Christian soldiers at Guantanamo practised their religion regularly and attended weekly services. Miller was rarely missing from the front row of the chief chaplain’s service, which gave it an unstated command emphasis.
Three Christian chaplains hosted weekly Bible studies where soldiers met to discuss their faith. I am sure that they believed this made them better people and better soldiers and helped to ease the tremendous strain of life at Guantanamo. Why couldn’t they see that we were simply doing
the same?
For months Orlich watched me and the other Muslims who regularly attended my religious services. He was particularly concerned with Ahmad whose “case” was assigned to Lance Wega,
a young civilian agent from the Air Force Office of Special Investigations.
Investigators twice surreptitiously entered Ahmad’s living quarters. They took photographs of the house, copied his telephone records and mirrored the hard drive on his computer.
Microsoft was instructed to store Ahmad’s e-mails and records of his internet activity without his knowledge.
“You are requested to not disclose the existence of this request to the subscriber or any other person,” the letter to Microsoft stated. “Any such disclosure could subject you to criminal liability for obstruction of justice.”
Many Muslim personnel came to me to share concerns that things just didn’t feel right. Staff Sergeant Mohammad Tabassum, a no-nonsense type of guy in his mid-forties, told me that he had been cleaning out a cupboard in his house on the base and discovered a listening device hidden inside.
Ahmad then told me that his security clearance had been suspended. He was the last person I thought would come under suspicion; he was a loyal American and an exceptional soldier, the best translator in the camp.
When Ahmad’s tour of duty came to an end, he left with great excitement, heading for Syria to be married. He and his fiancée had been forced to postpone the wedding when his deployment at Guantanamo was extended. His mother, who had recently recovered from cancer, was to meet Ahmad at the airport in London and then fly with him to Damascus.
A few days after Ahmad left, however, we heard that he had been arrested in Jacksonville, Florida, when he got off the plane from Guantanamo. Nobody knew why or what had happened to him.
After a few weeks news arrived that Tariq Hashim, an air force captain who had been on the same plane, had also been arrested. The FBI had taken both of them. Then we had heard that another member of our prayer group, Petty Officer Samir Hejab, a navy cook, had been arrested as he left Guantanamo at the end of his deployment.
Suddenly it seemed as if every Muslim at Guantanamo was being detained on reaching American soil. Were we all going to be arrested and jailed without explanation?
In the midst of this confusion, I decided that it was time for me to take a break from Guantanamo. Every trooper was allowed a short vacation and by late August I was ready for mine. I felt overjoyed at the idea of seeing my family again. But I also was growing more concerned by the day that something suspicious was happening behind the scenes.
“Have you heard anything about Muslim personnel being arrested recently?” I asked Orlich.
He looked me in the eye. “Nothing,” he told me.
“The situation is strange,” I said to him. “There’s a lot of rumours and I’m wondering if I’m next.”
Orlich smiled and put his hand on my shoulder, “Now why would anyone want to arrest you, chaplain?”
I persisted: “Because I am the Muslim chaplain and the one who leads these three missing Muslims in prayer.”
Orlich just laughed off my concerns.
© James Yee and Aimee Molloy 2005
Adapted from For God And Country by James Yee with Aimee Molloy to be published by PublicAffairs, a member of the Perseus Books Group, on November 3 at £14.99. Copies can be ordered for £12.09 with free delivery from The Sunday Times BooksFirst on 0870 165 8585
My wife said she had my gun in one hand and two rounds in the other
I still don’t understand how the misguided suspicions of a few inexperienced soldiers led to the ordeal that changed my life, tore apart my family and destroyed my career.
While my plane headed home to the US on September 10, 2003, representatives of at least five government agencies awaited me at the Jacksonville air station: FBI, Naval Criminal Investigative Service, US Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, US Customs and Border Protection and Army Counterintelligence.
After my arrest I was sure that General Miller would order my release. He ran a tight ship and he was a tough leader, but he was a general and he would therefore be fair. But when I was at last arraigned at a pre-trial hearing, I was presented with a memorandum signed by Miller that stated: “Chaplain Yee is known to have associated with known terrorist sympathisers.”
He added: “Yee is suspected of several extremely serious crimes, including espionage, which potentially carries the death penalty.”
I was too cut off from the world to know that the news of my arrest had broken and that the government was slandering me in the press. There were reports that I had contact with Syrian government officials, that I was affiliated with Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, and that I had been found with maps of Guantanamo and names of the detainees and interrogators.
Sometimes I wondered if I would go crazy trying to deal with the situation and being locked in solitary confinement for what turned out to be 76 days. If it were not for my military training and my religion, perhaps I would have.
After a month I learnt that I was not going to be charged with spying, sedition or aiding the enemy after all but with the “slap on the wrist” charges of taking classified information to my housing quarters and of transporting classified material without the proper container. But my hopes quickly vanished when my lawyer told me that the army was saying that more serious charges might still be brought.
I discovered that I was in the same prison as Yasser Hamdi, an American-born Saudi who was allegedly captured fighting US forces in Afghanistan, and Jose Padilla, who was arrested in Chicago on suspicion of belonging to Al-Qaeda and participating in a plot to detonate a dirty bomb in the United States. Both were deemed enemy combatants. Did this mean I was, too?
At another pre-trial hearing, investigators claimed I was part of a spy ring. The press repeated false information from anonymous government sources that it was one of the most dangerous spy rings to be discovered in the US military since the cold war.
The army was doing far more harm to me privately. Martha Brewer, an agent with the Department of Defence Criminal Investigative Service, went to my apartment near Seattle and told Huda, my wife: “Your husband is not the person you think he is. He’s having an affair with three women.”
She produced photographs of me with female colleagues on social occasions at Guantanamo in what was clearly a desperate attempt to turn Huda against me. Although these photographs would have been acceptable to most people, Brewer clearly understood that given her traditions, Huda would be particularly upset to see me photographed with women. Huda later told me she was so distressed that some days she couldn’t get out of bed and all she could do was cry.
On November 25, with no serious charges in sight, I was suddenly released from custody. But the same day news bulletins announced that I was being charged with adultery (a criminal offence in the military) and with downloading pornography on a government computer. By revealing the new charges on the day of my release from prison, the army had captured the story.
I called Huda and had one of the most difficult experiences of my entire ordeal. She told me that when she had learnt of the new accusations, she had searched out my Smith & Wesson .38 special handgun, which I kept on the top shelf in my cupboard, hidden from view.
“I’m holding it in one hand,” she told me, “and two rounds in the other.”
“Put it down,” I said firmly, fear rising inside of me.
“Tell me how to use it,” she whispered. She said that she couldn’t deal with this any longer and wanted to be free from everything — the media, the scrutiny, the idea that the United States government could be doing this to our family. It was not the first time that Huda had suggested a desire to die since my arrest, but it had never gone this far.
I didn’t know what to do. She hung up and when I called back several times, she didn’t answer. Finally I called the local police department. They sent officers to our apartment, who took Huda to a nearby hospital against her will. She was released after several hours, but the police kept the gun. I could not be with her. I was forbidden to leave my military base.
In February last year my lawyers reached a deal with the army that the criminal charges would be dismissed and I would resign my commission with a recommendation for an honourable discharge from Miller and other senior officers. Even so, the military continued to whisper that I was indeed a threat to the nation but it was somehow in the interest of security to drop the case against me. Miller found me guilty of adultery and possessing pornography and formally reprimanded me. Two months later — by which time my case had become a cause celebre — I won an appeal against his decision.
After the charges against me were dropped and it became obvious that the government had erred, many newspaper editorials were written to demand that the military issue an apology.
Of course I want an apology, but it will not restore my marriage which has suffered irreparable damage from the vindictive claims that the military made. Nor will it give me back my job as a Muslim chaplain in the army — a job that allowed me to fulfil my dream of serving both God and country.
WagNews: Ellsberg, Sibel Edmonds & The Secret Team
WagNews: Ellsberg, Sibel Edmonds & The Secret Team
by Fintan Dunne, BreakForNews.com30 Aug, 2005
No decoding of an intelligence operation such as 9/11 is complete without analysing the intelligence agencies themselves. Uncovering their lies today depends on understanding their lies in the past. New lies instruct us about old lies. And vice versa.
For those still coming to terms with the scope of our CIA Internet Fakes list, an extract from L. Fletcher Prouty's "The Secret Team" gives some indication of the lengths to which a secret intelligence service will go to cover it's tracks.
Even without necessarily endorsing Prouty, the issues he raises illuminate the real world subtleties of how intelligence services work.
One chapter has some stimulating stuff on Ellsberg that seems quite relevant:
The tremendous pressures in this country that have built up during the long tragic years of the conflict in Indochina are driving researchers, politicians, and other concerned Americans to search for the origins and sources of responsibility for that disaster.... This pressure is now forcing Agency and ST (Secret Team) supporters to begin a serious program of rewriting history, in a massive effort to protect and shield the Agency while shifting the search into other avenues.We have already said that the work of Daniel Ellsberg and the number of people who helped him may have been the first major step in this effort. The released Pentagon Papers do much to portray the CIA as it is supposed to be, while doing all it can to shift any censure of the CIA as an organization primarily concerned with clandestine operations, to the military, the National Security Council, and the White House.
Read more in the Forum here. It's a valid criticism of Ellsberg, no matter what your attitude to Prouty. All the more relevant because this Vietnam-era issue has modern echoes in relation to 9/11, as the agency dons a public cloak of ineptitude to cover it's much-suspected culpability.
But, this time there's too much blame to shift. Some must be taken on board -even if under the guise of incompetence.In that light it hardly seems surprising that a man who --unwittingly or not-- shifted blame from the agency's reputation in the past, has teamed up with a lady who is today helping to spread yet more blame away from the agency.In one fell swoop Sibel Edmonnd has offloaded blame from the CIA --and spread it across the FBI, the State Department; an unnamed (i.e. Mossad) foreign intelligence operation; and a non-terrorist criminal network.Quite a feat.In an interview with me (her first recorded interview, by the way), Edmonds alleged that the US State Department had blocked investigations showing links between criminal drug trafficking networks and the attacks on 9/11.
"Certain investigations were being quashed, let's say per State Department's request, because it would have affected certain foreign relations [or] affected certain business relations with foreign organizations," she said. (Interview)Edmonds also said the pre-9/11 US intelligence system had been penetrated by a drug-linked, semi-legitimate criminal intelligence network, operating with seeming impunity inside the FBI. She claimed a fellow translator with top security clearance tried to recruit her, but when Edmonds reported the recruitment approach to her superiors she was fobbed off.The post-9/11 intelligence 'failures' she said, included the willful quashing by the government, of investigations tracing those criminal networks.
At the time, I wrote:
If that's a limited hangout, God help us. The truth must be awful.The "limited hangout" was, of course, 100% pure LIHOP. But with a twist. Edmonds was publicly all LIHOP, but assured everyone that her private, gagged testimony went much further. Either way, Ellsberg seemed convinced by Edmonds, as he too hammered home the LIHOP.
"I'm not an expert on all this," he told me. "But I am increasingly open to the explanation that people in the administration did see this coming... and may have indeed reduced some obstacles.., or opened the door, in effect. I haven't been absolutely convinced on that, but it does seem to me to be an open question that deserves investigation.""Now beyond that... it seems to me quite plausible that --plausible, that's all I'd say-- that Pakistan was quite involved in this, and that many Saudis were well informed on this," said Ellsberg in a recorded interview."And to say that. To say Pakistan-- is to me, to say C.I.A. Because I think the relations between the Pakistan I.S.I. [intelligence service] and CIA were very close from the beginning. And it's hard to say that the I.S.I knew something that the CIA had no knowledge of... But, I wouldn't say that I have been yet been thoroughly convinced by any alternative." (Interview)In those prevarications, Ellsberg both has his cake and eats it. Smearing with one hand and wiping away with the other.Between them, Ellsberg and Edmonds spread the blame across the Saudis, the Pakistanis, the CIA, the State Dept., the FBI, the Mossad, a drug-linked criminal gang and the implicit villians: Al-Qaida.Soon, from miles away in Florida, Daniel Hopsicker, with help from Atta's girlfriend Amanda Keller was insisting that Edmonds' story dovetailed with his discoveries of a drug network linked to 9/11. His list of Florida-based villians is as exhaustive as that of the dynamic duo in D.C..If you buy that whole array of LIHOP spins, then buy it.I didn't buy it then or now, but I kept my convictions to myself as I reported her tale. I was playing dumb and playing the long game for a bigger payoff: the whole truth on 9/11.You can't get anywhere investigation 9/11 from web material alone. I figured that some misdirection of my own would get me closer to the truth.It did. And then some.Those interviews with Edmonds and Ellsberg led me to further interviews with many of the well known 9/11 skeptics -on our BreakForNews netradio shows. As the jigsaw pieces came together, person by person, website by website, the big picture emerged.WHAT FLAVOR CONSPIRACY YOU WANT?One big corner of that overall 9/11 picture is formed by four disparate-seeming individuals: a veteran whistleblower, an attractive novice whistleblower, a campaigning journalist and a reputed lingerie model; jigsaw peices called Ellsberg, Edmonds, Hopsicker and Keller. Ellsberg supports Edmonds, confirmed by Hopsicker --backed by eyewitness accounts from Keller. But they're all telling different flavors of the same story.To specify which story that is, let's take a look at the popular tales of 9/11. The notorious main division is between LIHOP and MIHOP. But it's much more detailed than that. Explanations come in a full range of flavors --starting with the official story:A. Official story:
CIA/FBI were incompetent; Bush and/or Clinton were complacent.B. Official Lame Conspiracy:
CIA/FBI were incompetent; Bush/Cheney maybe let it happen; Israelis Knew.C. Official LIHOP Conspiracy:
CIA/FBI were compromised; Bush/Cheney did let it happen; Israelis Helped.D. Official LIHOP Wild Conspiracy:
CIA/FBI compromised; Bush/Cheney/Neocons let it happen; Israelis Did It.E. Official LIHOP Tinfoil Conspiracy:
Israelis/Neocons/Bush/Cheney Did It; CIA/FBI looked the other way.F. Official MIHOP 'Serious' Conspiracy:
Israelis/Neocons/CIA/FBI/Bush/Cheney/Military-Industrial-Complex Did It.G. Official Loony Conspiracies:
Rothschilds and/or Rockefellers and/or CFR and/or Bildebergers did it.
Globalists who want to run everything in a World Government did it.Jews and Jewish bankers -who already run everything- did it.Satanists, Opus Dei or Reptilians did it.
It's a terrific variety of theories.It plays out something like this:
The mainstream media push version A; hint at B; sneer at G.
The controlled right/intellectual media pushes version B.
The controlled left/intellectual media pushes version C.
The 'moderate' Fake internet sites push versions C and D.
The 'softcore' Fake internet sites push versions D and E.
The 'independent' Fake internet sites push version F.
The 'loony' Fake interent sites push variations of version G.
But every single one, from A to G are OFFICIAL versions, sanctioned and promoted by the 9/11 intelligence coverup operation and their CIA Fakes network. They have a flavor for every market.The creation of this multiplicity of explanations is a core element of the coverup. Left to their own devices, people on the Internet might have figured out the truth themselves. But with this circus in action, there is always plenty of distraction and lots of division in opinion.The intelligence coverup is not trying to stop 9/11 conspiracy theories on the internet. It's creating them. Then playing off supporters of the different theories against each other. That's a classic Cointelpro-style tactic.The perpetrators knew that a sizeable segment of people were going to be pretty sure 9/11 was not as it seems. They don't mind that, for now. The immediate objectives are first, to to stop these skeptical views from gaining hold in mainstream opinion. Second, to prevent a coherent view forming which could convinve a much broader number of people -particularly those on the political left.
Ellsberg, Edmonds, Hopsicker, Keller are clearly advocates for Version C. They are not the only ones.Soon after our interview with Sibel Edmonds, Antiwar.com began carrying her story and have been her strongest promoters ever since. The Edmonds comments about a "certain" intelligence agency, sit well on that website, where lead Antiwar.com columnist Justin Raimondo, is just now yet again pushing the "Israelis Knew/Did It" angle on 9/11.
Many other CIA Fakes are heavily promoting this line, because it's a key part of what the coverup hopes will forever be the main vaguely-hinted, but unproven conspiracy theory on 9/11: Bush, Cheney, and Mossad let it happen on purpose.The truth is far worse. But we are getting closer to it, step by step.COMING NEXT: The Pod People and the CIAFintan Dunne 1st Sept, 2005
Read the extract from Prouty's "The Secret Team"Requires actual thinking. More in an update here soon.THE SECRET TEAMThe CIA and Its Allies in Control ofthe United States and the WorldL. FLETCHER PROUTY Col., U.S. Air Force (Ret.)Chapter 8CIA: The "Cover Story" Intelligence Agencyand the Real-Life Clandestine OperatorTHE CIA LIKES TO PUBLICIZE ITSELF AS IT WISHES TO be seen; it tries consistently to maintain its cover story. These facts would not be publicly admitted by the agency; but they are facts. It is only fitting to note that when Allen Dulles died, he was writing a book about "Communism and Subversion". This was his first love, as it was J. Edgar Hoover's. This was his occupation. Intelligence was his avocation. When he was writing about Communism and subversion, he was writing, of course, about the real work of the CIA. He liked to write about the CIA and he liked to see that others wrote about the CIA... Continues here
posted by Fintan, BreakForNews.comat 6:23 PM
by Fintan Dunne, BreakForNews.com30 Aug, 2005
No decoding of an intelligence operation such as 9/11 is complete without analysing the intelligence agencies themselves. Uncovering their lies today depends on understanding their lies in the past. New lies instruct us about old lies. And vice versa.
For those still coming to terms with the scope of our CIA Internet Fakes list, an extract from L. Fletcher Prouty's "The Secret Team" gives some indication of the lengths to which a secret intelligence service will go to cover it's tracks.
Even without necessarily endorsing Prouty, the issues he raises illuminate the real world subtleties of how intelligence services work.
One chapter has some stimulating stuff on Ellsberg that seems quite relevant:
The tremendous pressures in this country that have built up during the long tragic years of the conflict in Indochina are driving researchers, politicians, and other concerned Americans to search for the origins and sources of responsibility for that disaster.... This pressure is now forcing Agency and ST (Secret Team) supporters to begin a serious program of rewriting history, in a massive effort to protect and shield the Agency while shifting the search into other avenues.We have already said that the work of Daniel Ellsberg and the number of people who helped him may have been the first major step in this effort. The released Pentagon Papers do much to portray the CIA as it is supposed to be, while doing all it can to shift any censure of the CIA as an organization primarily concerned with clandestine operations, to the military, the National Security Council, and the White House.
Read more in the Forum here. It's a valid criticism of Ellsberg, no matter what your attitude to Prouty. All the more relevant because this Vietnam-era issue has modern echoes in relation to 9/11, as the agency dons a public cloak of ineptitude to cover it's much-suspected culpability.
But, this time there's too much blame to shift. Some must be taken on board -even if under the guise of incompetence.In that light it hardly seems surprising that a man who --unwittingly or not-- shifted blame from the agency's reputation in the past, has teamed up with a lady who is today helping to spread yet more blame away from the agency.In one fell swoop Sibel Edmonnd has offloaded blame from the CIA --and spread it across the FBI, the State Department; an unnamed (i.e. Mossad) foreign intelligence operation; and a non-terrorist criminal network.Quite a feat.In an interview with me (her first recorded interview, by the way), Edmonds alleged that the US State Department had blocked investigations showing links between criminal drug trafficking networks and the attacks on 9/11.
"Certain investigations were being quashed, let's say per State Department's request, because it would have affected certain foreign relations [or] affected certain business relations with foreign organizations," she said. (Interview)Edmonds also said the pre-9/11 US intelligence system had been penetrated by a drug-linked, semi-legitimate criminal intelligence network, operating with seeming impunity inside the FBI. She claimed a fellow translator with top security clearance tried to recruit her, but when Edmonds reported the recruitment approach to her superiors she was fobbed off.The post-9/11 intelligence 'failures' she said, included the willful quashing by the government, of investigations tracing those criminal networks.
At the time, I wrote:
If that's a limited hangout, God help us. The truth must be awful.The "limited hangout" was, of course, 100% pure LIHOP. But with a twist. Edmonds was publicly all LIHOP, but assured everyone that her private, gagged testimony went much further. Either way, Ellsberg seemed convinced by Edmonds, as he too hammered home the LIHOP.
"I'm not an expert on all this," he told me. "But I am increasingly open to the explanation that people in the administration did see this coming... and may have indeed reduced some obstacles.., or opened the door, in effect. I haven't been absolutely convinced on that, but it does seem to me to be an open question that deserves investigation.""Now beyond that... it seems to me quite plausible that --plausible, that's all I'd say-- that Pakistan was quite involved in this, and that many Saudis were well informed on this," said Ellsberg in a recorded interview."And to say that. To say Pakistan-- is to me, to say C.I.A. Because I think the relations between the Pakistan I.S.I. [intelligence service] and CIA were very close from the beginning. And it's hard to say that the I.S.I knew something that the CIA had no knowledge of... But, I wouldn't say that I have been yet been thoroughly convinced by any alternative." (Interview)In those prevarications, Ellsberg both has his cake and eats it. Smearing with one hand and wiping away with the other.Between them, Ellsberg and Edmonds spread the blame across the Saudis, the Pakistanis, the CIA, the State Dept., the FBI, the Mossad, a drug-linked criminal gang and the implicit villians: Al-Qaida.Soon, from miles away in Florida, Daniel Hopsicker, with help from Atta's girlfriend Amanda Keller was insisting that Edmonds' story dovetailed with his discoveries of a drug network linked to 9/11. His list of Florida-based villians is as exhaustive as that of the dynamic duo in D.C..If you buy that whole array of LIHOP spins, then buy it.I didn't buy it then or now, but I kept my convictions to myself as I reported her tale. I was playing dumb and playing the long game for a bigger payoff: the whole truth on 9/11.You can't get anywhere investigation 9/11 from web material alone. I figured that some misdirection of my own would get me closer to the truth.It did. And then some.Those interviews with Edmonds and Ellsberg led me to further interviews with many of the well known 9/11 skeptics -on our BreakForNews netradio shows. As the jigsaw pieces came together, person by person, website by website, the big picture emerged.WHAT FLAVOR CONSPIRACY YOU WANT?One big corner of that overall 9/11 picture is formed by four disparate-seeming individuals: a veteran whistleblower, an attractive novice whistleblower, a campaigning journalist and a reputed lingerie model; jigsaw peices called Ellsberg, Edmonds, Hopsicker and Keller. Ellsberg supports Edmonds, confirmed by Hopsicker --backed by eyewitness accounts from Keller. But they're all telling different flavors of the same story.To specify which story that is, let's take a look at the popular tales of 9/11. The notorious main division is between LIHOP and MIHOP. But it's much more detailed than that. Explanations come in a full range of flavors --starting with the official story:A. Official story:
CIA/FBI were incompetent; Bush and/or Clinton were complacent.B. Official Lame Conspiracy:
CIA/FBI were incompetent; Bush/Cheney maybe let it happen; Israelis Knew.C. Official LIHOP Conspiracy:
CIA/FBI were compromised; Bush/Cheney did let it happen; Israelis Helped.D. Official LIHOP Wild Conspiracy:
CIA/FBI compromised; Bush/Cheney/Neocons let it happen; Israelis Did It.E. Official LIHOP Tinfoil Conspiracy:
Israelis/Neocons/Bush/Cheney Did It; CIA/FBI looked the other way.F. Official MIHOP 'Serious' Conspiracy:
Israelis/Neocons/CIA/FBI/Bush/Cheney/Military-Industrial-Complex Did It.G. Official Loony Conspiracies:
Rothschilds and/or Rockefellers and/or CFR and/or Bildebergers did it.
Globalists who want to run everything in a World Government did it.Jews and Jewish bankers -who already run everything- did it.Satanists, Opus Dei or Reptilians did it.
It's a terrific variety of theories.It plays out something like this:
The mainstream media push version A; hint at B; sneer at G.
The controlled right/intellectual media pushes version B.
The controlled left/intellectual media pushes version C.
The 'moderate' Fake internet sites push versions C and D.
The 'softcore' Fake internet sites push versions D and E.
The 'independent' Fake internet sites push version F.
The 'loony' Fake interent sites push variations of version G.
But every single one, from A to G are OFFICIAL versions, sanctioned and promoted by the 9/11 intelligence coverup operation and their CIA Fakes network. They have a flavor for every market.The creation of this multiplicity of explanations is a core element of the coverup. Left to their own devices, people on the Internet might have figured out the truth themselves. But with this circus in action, there is always plenty of distraction and lots of division in opinion.The intelligence coverup is not trying to stop 9/11 conspiracy theories on the internet. It's creating them. Then playing off supporters of the different theories against each other. That's a classic Cointelpro-style tactic.The perpetrators knew that a sizeable segment of people were going to be pretty sure 9/11 was not as it seems. They don't mind that, for now. The immediate objectives are first, to to stop these skeptical views from gaining hold in mainstream opinion. Second, to prevent a coherent view forming which could convinve a much broader number of people -particularly those on the political left.
Ellsberg, Edmonds, Hopsicker, Keller are clearly advocates for Version C. They are not the only ones.Soon after our interview with Sibel Edmonds, Antiwar.com began carrying her story and have been her strongest promoters ever since. The Edmonds comments about a "certain" intelligence agency, sit well on that website, where lead Antiwar.com columnist Justin Raimondo, is just now yet again pushing the "Israelis Knew/Did It" angle on 9/11.
Many other CIA Fakes are heavily promoting this line, because it's a key part of what the coverup hopes will forever be the main vaguely-hinted, but unproven conspiracy theory on 9/11: Bush, Cheney, and Mossad let it happen on purpose.The truth is far worse. But we are getting closer to it, step by step.COMING NEXT: The Pod People and the CIAFintan Dunne 1st Sept, 2005
Read the extract from Prouty's "The Secret Team"Requires actual thinking. More in an update here soon.THE SECRET TEAMThe CIA and Its Allies in Control ofthe United States and the WorldL. FLETCHER PROUTY Col., U.S. Air Force (Ret.)Chapter 8CIA: The "Cover Story" Intelligence Agencyand the Real-Life Clandestine OperatorTHE CIA LIKES TO PUBLICIZE ITSELF AS IT WISHES TO be seen; it tries consistently to maintain its cover story. These facts would not be publicly admitted by the agency; but they are facts. It is only fitting to note that when Allen Dulles died, he was writing a book about "Communism and Subversion". This was his first love, as it was J. Edgar Hoover's. This was his occupation. Intelligence was his avocation. When he was writing about Communism and subversion, he was writing, of course, about the real work of the CIA. He liked to write about the CIA and he liked to see that others wrote about the CIA... Continues here
posted by Fintan, BreakForNews.comat 6:23 PM
Horrors! Newsmax, with its very high standards for fact checking and integrity, gets it wrong!!??
AMERICAblog: Because a great nation deserves the truth
Bono spokesman says U2 is NOT doing a fundraiser for Santorum.
Bono spokesman says U2 is NOT doing a fundraiser for Santorum.
Bush's Pro-U.N. Foreign Policy -- Cliff Kincaid -- GOPUSA
Bush's Pro-U.N. Foreign Policy -- Cliff Kincaid -- GOPUSA: "Michael New's case is still on appeal in the courts. You can read about it at www.mikenew.com. But the Bush administration, like the Clinton administration, is lined up against him. "
Blogger Thought: It's not that I've flipped to support GOPUSA. Interesting to see what the hard core right is saying.
Blogger Thought: It's not that I've flipped to support GOPUSA. Interesting to see what the hard core right is saying.
FBI Denies University Bomber Tied to Terrorism -- GOPUSA
FBI Denies University Bomber Tied to Terrorism -- GOPUSA
Blogger Thoughs: "Shush, you guys", It's our Synthetic Terrorism Patsy, not real Terrorism.
Blogger Thoughs: "Shush, you guys", It's our Synthetic Terrorism Patsy, not real Terrorism.
Tuesday, October 11, 2005
Althouse: "There's something sick about making entertainment out of real people's legal problems."
Althouse: "There's something sick about making entertainment out of real people's legal problems."
Blogger Thought: Scalia is widely panned (as far as I can tell) for his unsupportable remark on this.
Blogger Thought: Scalia is widely panned (as far as I can tell) for his unsupportable remark on this.
George Washington's Blog: Another 9/11 Smoking Gun
George Washington's Blog: Another 9/11 Smoking Gun
In reviewing emergency personnel tapes, I found 2 interesting statements concerning flashes in the world trade centers prior to their collapse:
The captain of emergency medical services said "somewhere around the middle of the world trade center there was this orange and red flash coming out ... initially it was just one flash then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode ... and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides ... as far as could see these popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger going both up and down and then all around the building" (page 15 -- pdf file; Google's web version is here)
Similiarly, the Assistant Fire Commissioner stated I thought . . . before . . . No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. . . . I . . . saw a flash flash flash . . . [at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they . . . blow up a building. . . ?” . In the same statement, the Assistant Commissioner recounts how a lieutenant firefighter he spoke with independently verified the flashes.
Then I stumbled upon two very interesting videos from the world's leading controlled demolition company, Controlled Demolition, Inc.:
Can you see the orange and red flashes all over the near side of this building in this authenticated video of a controlled demolition?
Do you see orange and red flashes at the base of this building in this demolition video by the same demolition company? (both videos are posted at the "World Records" section of Controlled Demolition's website)
Hmmmm.
In reviewing emergency personnel tapes, I found 2 interesting statements concerning flashes in the world trade centers prior to their collapse:
The captain of emergency medical services said "somewhere around the middle of the world trade center there was this orange and red flash coming out ... initially it was just one flash then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode ... and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides ... as far as could see these popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger going both up and down and then all around the building" (page 15 -- pdf file; Google's web version is here)
Similiarly, the Assistant Fire Commissioner stated I thought . . . before . . . No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. . . . I . . . saw a flash flash flash . . . [at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they . . . blow up a building. . . ?” . In the same statement, the Assistant Commissioner recounts how a lieutenant firefighter he spoke with independently verified the flashes.
Then I stumbled upon two very interesting videos from the world's leading controlled demolition company, Controlled Demolition, Inc.:
Can you see the orange and red flashes all over the near side of this building in this authenticated video of a controlled demolition?
Do you see orange and red flashes at the base of this building in this demolition video by the same demolition company? (both videos are posted at the "World Records" section of Controlled Demolition's website)
Hmmmm.
Our Man at the UN: saying the council had to act against atrocities and not just talk about them
US blocks U.N. briefing on atrocities in Sudan - Yahoo! News: "saying the council had to act against atrocities and not just talk about them"
The Bush Presidency Is Imploding
The Bush Presidency Is Imploding
John LeBoutillier
Tuesday, Oct. 11, 2005
Some call it "second termitis" – that affliction that seems to beset all re-elected presidents.
But that usually happens later in a president's second term – and usually less severely.
Not since President Richard Nixon's Watergate demise have we seen a presidency – just nine months after GW Bush's inauguration – literally collapse from within.
The latest AP/Ipsos poll – taken last week of 1,000 adult voters – shows that only 28 percent believe the country is on the "right" track; a whopping 66 percent believe we're on the "wrong" track.
And only 39 percent give the president a positive job approval rating – the lowest of his presidency in this poll.
But the big story in this poll is the cracking of George W. Bush's once solid base: he has lost 20 percent of white evangelical men, more GOP women, and doubts are creeping into the conservative wing of the Republican coalition.
Clearly the Harriet Miers decision – just one week ago – was a massive political blunder; forget her legal qualifications, we're talking here about Bush's political strength – or lack thereof.
Picking Miers has unleashed anger on the Right
a heretofore solid base for literally any Bush decision. And with that anger comes confusion, resentment
and the inevitable Bush Family Behavior: payback for any one who dares to criticize any Bush decision.
(That is the genesis of the ongoing Plame Leak Investigation: Joseph Wilson's op-ed piece criticizing Bush's assertions in his State of the Union speech caused the White House to have to "pay him back" by attacking him. It's the Bush Family credo.)
And if Bush starts attacking fellow conservatives, then the whole thing threatens to come tumbling down around him.
Underneath it all is the festering sore of an Iraq War that is going badly – despite the poppycock put out by Mr. Bush and his minions. Let me tell you a so-far-untold story from this past summer:
A print reporter was given private time in Iraq with CENTCOM Commander General John Abizaid. The general spoke on complete background. He told this reporter that "we cannot win militarily here in Iraq. The best we can do is to hold it where it is until the Iraqis take over."
Yet – in an eery reminder of Vietnam – General Abizaid did not say the same thing publicly to the Congress when he subsequently testified. On that occasion he painted – undoubtedly at the White House's behest
a rosy picture of imminent military success and Iraqi military progress.
(In fact, after three and a half years of our occupation there are barely 3,000 Iraqi soldiers we deem capable of fighting for their country.)
If our military leaders are telling two different stories – one for public consumption and another in a CYA off-the-record session with a reporter – then we are fooling ourselves. This is a war that is a fraud from the top down. And it is our troops who are suffering for it.
From the first day, the entire Iraq Campaign has been a typical case of "who cares about the troops?" – from inadequate troop levels to insufficient body armor and vehicle armor.
Iraq is the single biggest factor eating away at the Bush presidency. Gas prices, illegal immigration and other issues are hurting, too, but Iraq is the one constant that is undercutting what is left of Bush's credibility.
Prior to last week, the only people left who believed a word from GW Bush were conservatives; but the joke of Harriet Miers as "the most qualified person to be on the Supreme Court" has now begun to erode the president's credibility on the Right.
And once he loses the conservatives, he is a total goner as president.
With three years and three months left in the Oval Office, Mr. Bush faces a bleak remainder of his presidency; so, too, does the GOP, which has lost much credibility with its fiscal profligacy, sloppy Katrina spending and panoply of scandals.
The Republican Party has – at the top – become lazy, arrogant, ego-driven, fat, dumb and self-satisfied. It had better get its act in gear – and soon – or else it will be destroyed – from within as well as from without.
Wayne Madsen Report - Plame Update
Wayne Madsen Report: "October 10, 2005 -- New leads temporarily postpone indictments. Newly-discovered leads are postponing, at least temporarily, the issuance of indictments by Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald in the CIA leak scandal. On October 9, even conservatives on the Sunday pundit programs were resigned to the fact that indictments of top White House officials are imminent.
Although the Grand Jury probe of the White House scandal has been unique by Washington standards for the relative lack of leaks to the media, there are several currents that are beginning to emerge:
1. Investigators are focusing on an email between Karl Rove and then-Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen J. Hadley that referenced a July 11, 2003 conversation between Rove and Time's Matt Cooper. In a case reminiscent of Oliver North and the shredding and deletion of e-mail in the White House PROFS office automation system during Iran-contra, there is speculation that some critical e-mails involving the CIA leak were illegally destroyed by the White House.
Then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales informed White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card at 8:00 pm on September 29, 2003 that the Justice Department was beginning a criminal investigation of the White House over the CIA leak. Gonzales did not order the White House staff to preserve all documents, email, and memos until the next day, giving the White House a full twelve hours to destroy any incriminating documents, including email. Gonzales later claimed he delayed his order because of the late hour on September 29 -- however, the White House and its operations staff works on a 24x7 basis.
There are rumors that critical email and other documents relating to the cover up of the CIA leak and the White House Iraq Group's 'work up' on Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his CIA wife may have been destroyed during the twelve hour interval betwe"
Although the Grand Jury probe of the White House scandal has been unique by Washington standards for the relative lack of leaks to the media, there are several currents that are beginning to emerge:
1. Investigators are focusing on an email between Karl Rove and then-Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen J. Hadley that referenced a July 11, 2003 conversation between Rove and Time's Matt Cooper. In a case reminiscent of Oliver North and the shredding and deletion of e-mail in the White House PROFS office automation system during Iran-contra, there is speculation that some critical e-mails involving the CIA leak were illegally destroyed by the White House.
Then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales informed White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card at 8:00 pm on September 29, 2003 that the Justice Department was beginning a criminal investigation of the White House over the CIA leak. Gonzales did not order the White House staff to preserve all documents, email, and memos until the next day, giving the White House a full twelve hours to destroy any incriminating documents, including email. Gonzales later claimed he delayed his order because of the late hour on September 29 -- however, the White House and its operations staff works on a 24x7 basis.
There are rumors that critical email and other documents relating to the cover up of the CIA leak and the White House Iraq Group's 'work up' on Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his CIA wife may have been destroyed during the twelve hour interval betwe"
CNN.com - Former FBI director: Clinton�undermined Saudi bombing probe - Oct 10, 2005
CNN.com - Former FBI director: Clinton�undermined Saudi bombing probe - Oct 10, 2005: "Former FBI director: Clinton undermined Saudi bombing probe"
The Police State Is Closer Than You Think
The Police State Is Closer Than You Think: "The Police State Is
Closer Than You Think"
Closer Than You Think"
Suburban Guerrilla � This Week�s Episode of Able Danger
Suburban Guerrilla � This Week�s Episode of Able Danger: "frankly astonishing info "
Miers and Brimstone - Let's stop pretending there's no religious test for nominees. By Christopher�Hitchens
Miers and Brimstone - Let's stop pretending there's no religious test for nominees. By Christopher�Hitchens
Blogger Thoughts: Hitchens takes an instance of outrageous Bush Administration behavior, and finds a way to bludgeon the Dems.
Blogger Thoughts: Hitchens takes an instance of outrageous Bush Administration behavior, and finds a way to bludgeon the Dems.
Telegraph | News | Anti-semitism warning from Chief Rabbi
Telegraph | News | Anti-semitism warning from Chief Rabbi: "'there have been times, the first in my memory, when it has been uncomfortable to be a Jew in Britain'."
Blogger Thoughts: Perhaps I'm uninformed, but I thought the major danger was for hapless Brazilians or for innocent Muslims.
Blogger Thoughts: Perhaps I'm uninformed, but I thought the major danger was for hapless Brazilians or for innocent Muslims.
FrontPage magazine.com :: Soros Fingerprints on DeLay Frame-up by Richard Poe
FrontPage magazine.com :: Soros Fingerprints on DeLay Frame-up by Richard Poe
Blogger Thoughts: If true, hats of to Soros.
Blogger Thoughts: If true, hats of to Soros.
FrontPage magazine.com :: When Young Jews Major in Anti-Semitism by Dennis Prager
FrontPage magazine.com :: When Young Jews Major in Anti-Semitism by Dennis Prager
Blogger Thought: Prager explains it all... how predictabe....
Blogger Thought: Prager explains it all... how predictabe....
Audio: A New Member of this Blog, Lisa Ghariani
Announcement:
It is with great enthusiasm that I am announcing that Lisa Ghariani has agreed to add posts to this blog. Lisa is an activist and free lance journalist who is currently working with the OKBIC and former Rep. Charles Key on the Murrah Bombing investigation. She lives in OKC and has a colorful web site (http://www.possibilityx.com/lg/main.htm) chronicling stories with photos, humor and satirical comments. Lisa is not a spokesperson for OKBIC, so her opinions do not necessarily represent the views of the members of the OKBIC.
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Hello,
I'm glad to see there is still interest concerning the Oklahoma City Murrah bombing investigation. I will be more than happy to answer questions and try to separate the truth from fiction surrounding this tragic event.
Oklahoma City recently experienced a suicide bombing just 100 yards from the stadium at OU which was hosting a game. The stadium was packed with 84,000 fans at the time who were not allowed to leave the stadium. This act was carried out by yet another angry white boy. This was ironic timing because Charles Key, Chris Emery and I were speaking in South OKC about the Murrah bombing at the exact moment when this happened. The news media did an abrupt turn-a-round and basically refused to cover the story. The media acting in concert with David Boren immediately played down the act so as not to reduce attendance at the football games. I thought I would mention this story because it brought back so many memories for those of us who were in OKC shortly after the Murrah bombing. I was called the day after the event by a friend of mine in the journalism dept at a local college. I went to work for CNN who had set up a temporary bureau close to ground zero. I remained employed as a courier and escort for about 90 days until the story faded from the news. During this time I was privy to see the behind the scenes, day to day operations at CNN.
What peaked my interest was one story that CNN was reporting about the surveillance video tapes that were seized by the FBI and what was on those tapes. Shortly after running the story orders came down the ranks to pull the story due to National security concerns and the tapes faded into history... The Judge who presided over the Mcveigh and Nichols trials had the tapes sealed by a court order and they have yet to be released to this day. Sources working with the OKBIC anonymously who helped copy the tapes indicated that there were a total of 22 such tapes taken from the area following the Murrah Bombing on April 19, 1995.
Ten years later the American public is still not allowed to see those tapes and put to rest all the hype surrounding this case. Who was John Doe # 2? This has been the subject of speculation for many years. Although there are many conflicting theory's I have concentrated my investigation on what I call "hard evidence." This is the type of evidence that will hold up in a court of law, Grand Jury or a Congressional hearing.
Currently I am focusing my attention on two suspects who were recently implicated last April by Terry Nichols himself. One has to conclude that if he decided to finally say something after all of these years that this information should be followed up on even if the FBI has "closed the case" as Jeff Lanza a spokes person for the FBI reportedlast May.
Lastly, I was asked to say something about my visit to Crawford Texas where I met Cindy Sheehan and former CIA analyst Ray McGovern. I have been very out spoken about ending the quagmire in Iraq and I'm currently organizing protests in Oklahoma City. After sifting through a virtual mountain of documents that clearly show the current administration had a pre-conceived policy to invade Iraq that began as soon as GW Bush was sworn into office. Part of this plan I feel was to implicate Iraq in terrorist activity. Around this time support came from top administration officials for Jayna Davis and her "the Iraqi's did the Murrah bombing" theory. One only has to read the blurbs on her book and the foreward to determine that something strange was going on here. The book was poorly written and the investigation itself reads like a B movie screenplay. I do give her credit for her tenacity dealing with the DOJ cover-up but I personally feel the crux of her theory is not Congressional hearing material.
CNN.com - Attorney: Rove didn't circulate CIA operative's name - Oct 10, 2005
CNN.com - Attorney: Rove didn't circulate CIA operative's name - Oct 10, 2005: "Attorney: Rove didn't circulate CIA operative's name"
Blogger Thoughts: As pointed out on the Daily Show, and many other places, if Rove talked about Joe Wilson's wife, it is just as incriminating as saying Plame.
Blogger Thoughts: As pointed out on the Daily Show, and many other places, if Rove talked about Joe Wilson's wife, it is just as incriminating as saying Plame.
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